ADVENT in SF
Cisco's set on Friday night was off the hook. Firstly I'll state the drawbacks: Laptop.big deal he made the tracks and it was flawless, but I miss live programming-which no one seems to do anymore anyway. Alesis Airfx thing..First time I've seen anyone use it. It's a wierd little device and it was kinda goofy at first but it might be fun to play with. Otherwise He rocked the place for close to an hour and a half in a small tight sweaty conditions. I havn't had that much fun in a long time. Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
ADVENT/live in SF friday
To any one in SF The Advent Will be playing live tomorrow @ club 6 for the last maze party from 9:30 to 2:00 Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [313] Domingo Yu
Domingo is the man. He used to be a DJ in the Hip hop scene in Ann Arbor under the name Chino. He met up with some of the guys from UR and has been getting his techno style on. He's on Urban Slang with Mark Flash and DJ Marquis. Definitely a sweet combination of styles mixing the hi-tech funk and house with hip-hop, Ritmo Latino, etc, etc. Definitely an up and comer with big time potential ala' Rolando. Everything else I could tell you is top secret. Anyone interested in booking him or finding out more can get ahold of me in Private Hans Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:28:00 -0500, T Thompson wrote: Does anyone have info on this guy? I know I've seen his name up here before. I caught him in Chicago last weekend and he was off the hook. He was all over the place, but it worked. Red Planet, Mos Def, Celia Cruz, etc. Real nice mix. I didn't get a chance to talk with him, but I know he's from Detroit. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [313] WMC Line up Update
I'll be there with Bells on. Conferences Rule!. A friend of mine went to the DJ Expo in SF yesterday and got me a bunch of stickers and these fantastic Rane fridge magnets that were little mini mixers. They came in like 4 variety making kitchen mixing with component mixers while ordering pizza more reality than ever. Hans On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:40:57 -0600, atomly wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:49:30PM -0800, nancy mitchell wrote: who on this list is going? I believe I am. It should be a jam. -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
European Promoter Contacts
Attention Euro 313 Anyone willing to offer up some promoter contacts in Europe that would be into booking Twonz and other less known and underappreciated Detroit Techno guys. Please Respond in Private Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [313] Events in SF?
SF feb 3rd Independant Music Distro all techno Party @ Integral concepts every 1st Saturday Nikola Arturo Garces Lucas Rodenbusch aka E.B.E. Club 6 60 6th st. 10-2 should be off the hook local guys bangin it Soundworks is good but you gotta get there before Andre and Nik buy up all the stuff. also be sure to check out Housewares which has a new revamped techno side. Nik bought almost all of submerge's catalogue a few weeks back Hans On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 12:27:40 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to be in the San Francisco for the next few weeks. Anyone know of any good musical events in the bay area during february? Thanks in advance... Also, any hints about favorite clubs / record stores would be welcome. = __ rob kent | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cc.kzoo.edu/~k96rk01 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [313] john howard
John's a really nice guy plays the disco like everyone else in SF. Occasionally plays the drummy dubbier latin stuff, depends on the mood. Kind of the local hero type guy who everyone who tries starting up a new show books to play the opener. He's been around in the SF house scene for quite a long time. It's not too bad the first time you hear it but when you realize every DJ mixes the same and plays the tracks with no balls it gets old. On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 03:23:24 +1100, Cyclone Wehner wrote: That CD is nice, tasteful. John is part of the new wave of cool West Coast house (not tech-house) DJs - along with Miguel Migs of Naked Music (cult fave here), Marques Wyatt, H-Foundation, etc. He also did a nice percussive house track Spacewalk on the Om Lounge 3 comp. i know nothing about techno/house BUT i know i like john howard i would say he would be playing west coast housey stuff - nice and mellow etc, very smooth check out his cd 'san fransisco sessions vol 2' its not bad, but doesnt come close to vol 1 - mark farina :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [313] best christmas present for a dj
Get Blaine the DJ Barbie On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:13:04 -0800 (PST), turgan savas wrote: ok i know this is one hell of a lame topic. But i really need recommendations of cool but -cheap- presents for my dear dj friends. A cool thing that you would love to receive. They spin house, disco house, san francisco based stuff like siesta... also anyone know where i can find tshirts of siesta music? thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Attn. East Coast and Midwest Promoters
Hi, I'm looking to get some of my artists booked away from the west coast so they can get some recognition in the rest of the country. If anyone does any quality shows and wants some top flight talent please contact me. Or if you have any contact info for some promoters could you please contact me. Thanks Hans Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile www.teknarke.com ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Twonz on Groovetech/track ID
One damn fine set check out the archive from Nov 22 in the San Francisco Archives. I love that opening track Interview I think it's called anyone know who did it. ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Twonz in SF tuesday
After an off the hook show last friday twonz will be kickin down a set at An Siban in SF tuesday night 1176 sutter crossing @ polk. Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Paging Laura Gavoor
I want to ask you some professional advice =o) Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Re: [313] the D label/SF shows
Those guys are all the next wave of Detroit, and deserve some serious recognition on this list since they are the future-represent and show some support. Check out www.paxahau.com , which is the same guys. You'll find out more about some of them and hear some badass mix sets. For those of you on the West Coast who are interested in seeing some D artists live please check out the following upcoming events in San Francisco. Good Music-Saturday October 21st, 2000 Rex aka XXX (d-records, Detroit USA) Mystic Bill (HPS, Chicago) Tape (www.paxahau.com, Detroit/Oakland) plus Spun, Needles and Silverman 250 capacity show show up early PS it'll go from 10-about 8 am It's at a downtown art gallery (shhh that's a secret) 415-289-2056 call for info This Friday the 20th - maze @ Club 6, 60 6th Street California Techno w/ Safety Scissors and Kit Clayton Also Nov. 17th Maze W/ Ben Sims and Tape from Paxahau.com Oh yeah Kenny Larkin is playing with DJ Pierre and EBE - Optimal @ 174 King Street saturday the 21st too, but you should go see Rex and Tape if you can't do both. e-mail me if you have any questions Hand On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:47:19 +0300 (EEST), Sakari Karipuro wrote: howdy, i've got few 12s by this mystery label D - music is really innovative and funky detroit techno, but i've never heard of the artists before and there seems to be connection to hawtin co, since D website is http://d.m-nus.com/. website itself is annoingly slow flash stuff and offers very little information about the label. anybody knows anything about this label? some of the tracks really sound like hawtin just jammin live... / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Re: [313] (relatively) unknown detroiters
Those guys get play and recognition in the housey house world already, I wanna see the following get some props. Bone Twonz all the guys named Mark-Floyd, Flash, etc. Carlos Souffant all the guys on www.Paxahau.com Derick Plaslaiko and on and on These are the future of Detroit and should get more attention. Hans On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:32:45 -0400, record time wrote: hi all, i think there's a lot of artists/djs in detroit that don't have the name recognition or hype that gets attached to some of the bigger names. a few people come to mind (yes, they're all house): theo parrish (people in the uk are just getting turned on to him) alton miller mike huckaby mike clark kenny dixon and probably a dozen that don't come to mind right now... my $0.02 ani :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hans Kaufmann Teknarke Management 620 Baker #5 San Francisco, CA 94117 (415)885-3422 (415)786-7408 Mobile ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Who want Ben Sims?
Hey Everybody, I'm trying to hook up a gig with Ben Sims for the 17th of November but they want me to find him a US date for the 18th to make it worthwhile. If anyone is interested please contact me ASAP. Hans ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
SF's poorest planned weekend ever
Ok I'm sitting here finding myself absolutely aggravated by this friday night in the city by the bay, and the fact that none of the techno promnoters in this city bothered to check with anyone else before booking shows. Stacy Pullen and Derrick May and Gemini are all playing a new party. Listen.com is throwin a party with Mr. Alan Oldham Maze has Layo and Bushwacka from England Carlos Souffant is comin to hang out and play the Manhattan Lounge. No why the hell do I have to go months without a decent techno show and then out all of the damn sudden there are 4 worthwhile if not really good shows in the same night? I'm gonna kick it with carlos and if he's not done too late maybe go see T-1000. why in the hell couldn't anyone have done anything next week. Sorry to Gripe Hans ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
SF's poorest planned weekend ever
Ok I'm sitting here finding myself absolutely aggravated by this friday night in the city by the bay, and the fact that none of the techno promnoters in this city bothered to check with anyone else before booking shows. Stacy Pullen and Derrick May and Gemini are all playing a new party. Listen.com is throwin a party with Mr. Alan Oldham Maze has Layo and Bushwacka from England Carlos Souffant is comin to hang out and play the Manhattan Lounge. No why the hell do I have to go months without a decent techno show and then out all of the damn sudden there are 4 worthwhile if not really good shows in the same night? I'm gonna kick it with carlos and if he's not done too late maybe go see T-1000. why in the hell couldn't anyone have done anything next week. Sorry to Gripe Hans ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
New York Aug. 18-20th
Does anyone know of any good Techno events happening in the big apple the weekend of the 18th. Thanks in advance. Please respond in private. Hans ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Re: [313] Older people's views on detriot?-demf
My Mom (over 50 but fighting) went and loved it while I was stuck in SF wishing I was there. She goes out to the old people clubs where they play la bouche and other cheese dance pop, but loves house I have played, although she liked Rolando's Aztec Mystic mix the best. She also said she thought mdma sounded pretty neat after the reading the Time article a few weeks back. Parents just aren't the same as they used to be methinks. On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:43:34 PDT, Diana Potts wrote: On the DEMF tip there were tons of older people getting down and loving the music. Lots of parents of performers totally getting into the beats and vibe. It was so great to see...and lets not forget all the little kids too shakin their little legs. d Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: [313] FW: Groove
If anyone sees it and notices a kid in an orange shirt and green hat acting foolishly and trying to get in front of the camera too much it's me so let me know, since I wouldn't see it unless I knew I had a guest cameo. On Thu Jun 22 15:54:55 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i saw it here in ny the first weekend it was out... it was kind of funny (but i went with a whole bunch of post-rave people)...reminded me of an updated Thank God It's Friday (the old Donna Summer movie?). any one else's thoughts? In a message dated Thu, 22 Jun 2000 2:14:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Groove is coming to the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor July 28-31, and will be showing at 9:30 p.m. each night. Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first true rave movie, it makes me more than just a bit uncomfortable... Still, it should be interesting -- and if you *had* to do a trance soundtrack (and I'm sure they did), you could definitely come up with some cheesier people than the names that show up here: John Digweed, Hybrid, Hardkiss... I believe the director Greg Harrison is an MSU graduate, for what it's worth... John. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook
It may not be the same reference but Pink Floyd had done the same thin in London @30 years prior. They had set up 360 speakers at 1 degree intervals in a large cirucular auditorium. Each speaker had a different tone so the same sort of effect would occur. fascinating concept. On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:39:19 EDT, detroit science wrote: was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium, right next to one of the surround speakers. the best place to be was directly in the middle, as carl was controlling the feeds sent to each speaker and to get the full impact of the effect you needed to be in the middle. i forget who/what exactly was the inspiration, but if i remember correctly it had to do with an installation that had been done over in europe somewhere. the installation featured different feeds going to speakers placed within a venue, so that the listener created his own mix by moving around the area. i believe carl was controlling the feeds from recloose and his own gear - not sure about the drummer. anyone remember more details? take care, linda g mailing list http://www.onelist.com/community/detroitscience science office 313-534-7420 science fax 313-534-5155 mobile 313-790-7300 pager 800-200-5176 www.detroitscience.com was at that gig too...It was Carl, the drummer that he worked with on Innerzone Orchestra and Recloose (DJ Bubbilicious at the time). To be honest, I don't remember it being terribly enjoyable but it was definitely interesting and innovative. A lecture on Techno by Motor's Adriel was cool. It definitely preceded the innerzone lp and was a testament to Carl's creativity... Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International, LLC Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
RE: [313] Frankfurt scene (was : 'Trying to recreate something that's long gone')
Panytech (sammy and Zip) and Dimbiman and Markus Nikolai from perlon Records swing back and forth between Frankfurt and Berlin, mostly residing am main On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:25:32 +0200, Ross, Jurri wrote: How 'bout Thomas Heckmann -Original Message- From: Todd Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 16 juni 2000 20:22 To: Nick Walsh Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Frankfurt scene (was : 'Trying to recreate something that's long gone') Could have sworn Gaetek was Italian no? Other conform artists, Advent (UK) Qmen (Italy), Marco Carola (Italy). I think David Squillace is the only person from Germany who has produced on this label. Actually just confirmed Conform is Gaetek's label from Italy. todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Walsh wrote: --- Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inextricably linked. The Frankfurt-Berlin-Detroit Trans-Atlantic connection ho ho... I'm not trying here to add a point to this ongoing thread, but just curious : I still have some difficulty attaching the artists to city scenes - Detroit I see - Berlin I see (basically I would put there Tresor, Basic Channel, Chain Reaction...), but Frankfurt - what are the most famous artists and labels from this city ? Famous artists and labels from Frankfurt? Hmmm... Gaetek is from Frankfurt and so are all the other Conform artists... I think __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: [313] Dj software and Recycle
I met a kid who works for digidesign and he had mentioned that one can beta-test Pro Tools for them. There is no additional compensation but you do get it for free. Something to look in to. On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, pooper scooper wrote: Recycle for waves and cubase for midi... Recycle is something completely different. It doesn't do sequencing at all. It's a tool to automatically chop loops and sound peaks, and either save them as individual wav files or drop them to a sampler as a bank. Or Vegas and Acid... Neither does MIDI AFAIK. Vegas is a much more featurely wav sequencer than Acid and is really fun to use, but doesn't have the auto-beatmatching features that Acid has. The two make a good combo: match tempos in Acid if you need to, export the individual channels as .wavs, and then sequence them up in Vegas. Some house producer friends of mine use Vegas as their main sequencer. They write a bunch of MIDI loops in Opcode Vision (no huge reason to use this sequencer, but they're used to it and it works for what they do). They record the loops to the computer then do the arrangement in Vegas. Then they jam over the whole thing with live vocals, flutes, Rhodes, Moog, etc, recording it in Vegas. Then they can edit and sequence the live stuff in too. Pro-tools for poor people, basically. OB-313: If you're got a nice sound card, I would think Vegas would be a pretty fun thing to use to make 313-style music. It eliminates the problem of having to sync up a bunch of old analog gear, and it's fun to jam with to make your tunes sound spontaneous. To me, using Logic feels a bit anal - which is fine for some kinds of music, but not really what I like about Detroit. J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: [313] detroit vs. bay area, fila brazillia
Since I live in SF and pormote clubs here I get to put my 2 cents in. If a good Detroit or Chicago house Dj shows up at a club (Gemini and K Hand and Theo Parrish come to mind) they play the same flacid boring ass shit that all the locals do. no crescendos, no valleys sterile. As far as the events you listed below I can guarentee they are places you wouldn't want to be besides being huge and full of drugged out rave babies saying hella left and right, you will find out how lame Dj's can be. In an effort to please the crowd almost every Detroit Dj that's played out here (with the exception of TP and the Detroiters I've had play, Rolando, Bone, transmat etc.) plays shit they think the crowd will like and not what heads wanna hear. Juan won't show up-he's up to 4 no shows since I've been here. Ritch @1015 (same crowd as a candy rave older age) was playing to the cheese crowd with brief intervals of goodness (and you will lose respect for John Aquaviva if you hear one of his sets at 1015 as well). Trust me on this one I've made the mistake of going to shows like this when I first moved here and while it sounds good on an 11x17 super glossy flyer covered with pretty pictures and telling you about edible fruit alters floral arrangements what lights they have and how they will have free glowsticks you will be sorely dissapointed. If you want to see good music you have to get lucky sometimes. Techno is very hard to get although Shake is scheduled at my friend's club in 2 weeks and I'm trying to get Marco Carola for July.Stick to Maze Staple and Urban Development to avoid dissapointment in SF On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim Pratt wrote: after spending more than three days immersed in detroit techno last week, i'm spending this weekend in the San Francisco Bay area looking for jobs and whatnot. The interesting thing is how so different the two scenes are. Bay area is known for such a wide diversity of sounds, which i can definitely appreciate, but the two big scenes of late seem to be the turntablism/hip-hop thing and the trance stuff. last night i was listening to this late night radio show called subsonic and it was pretty cool, though a bit heavy on the trance stuff. to me, trance hasn't evolved much since its first heyday in the 93-95 amid the Goa and happy hardcore trends. anyway, despite the fact that trance is more popular in the West (John digweed is spinning tues, for example), i did notice a few interesting detroit names on some flyers on picked up at a head shop in Mountain View (basically, Silicon Valley): Quest July 1, Santa Clara Fairgrounds, San Jose -- Richie Hawtin with .. Terry Francis, Kevin Yost, Dieselboy, J Majik, Fierce, Dara, Sage, Christopher Lawrence, Joshua Ryan, Taylor, Doran, Mars, etc. www.silverpearl.com Metropolis June 17, Santa Clara Fairgrounds -- Stacey Pullen ...with Gene Farris, DJ Dan, Sandra Collins, Angel Alanis, De La Soul, Rahzel (roots), danny tha wildchild, www.clockworkeventz.com Cyberfest July 22 -- Santa Clara -- Juan Atkins . . . with Paul Oakenfold(! ugh!!), Carl Cox, ED Rush Optical, Digital Underground, Aphrodite, Mix Master Mike, Wish Fm, dave ralph, bt. www.coolworldprod.com lastly, anyone into fila brazillia??? very cool stuff. any downtempo fans? detroit still rules timmmiP __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
I really like this, can we have a seven degreees of Techno game? I choose Punk Hardcore. I was in Germany at a giant open air fest called Strange Noise in the Black Forest in Germany to see a couple Hardcore bands (Snapcase and Rikers I believe) The first night was a big silly rave party. I know quite a few kids in Detroit who were into punk throughout their teens and suddenly got into techno. None of us liked ravers though. I think it had something to do with the beats. Don't forget that Motor used to be the Falcon Club, one of my favorite places to be during high school. And theres a semi-fabled history at St. Andrews for both music forms. The more I think about it the more similarities pop up. ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Perlon SF Saturday the 20th
For all the Bay area Tech heads be sure to check out our show this Saturday SATURDAY MAY, 20TH Urban Development presents: 3 phat live sets from [PERLON] recording artists Markus Nikolai Pantytech Dimbiman also playin will be UD's Andre Lucero and Gouracandra with Special guest Spun $20 tickets available at BPM records on Hayes (yeah it's more costly than usual but so are plane tickets and artist fees) It's going to be a small private (read: illegal but the cops don't look for us so we don't get busted)location so be sure to get a ticket. Space is limited to max. 300 heads. We don't card but it tends to be 21+ techheads. Semi-full bar and top quality sound. See you there Hans ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Perlon SF Saturday the 20th
For all the Bay area Tech heads be sure to check out our show this Saturday SATURDAY MAY, 20TH Urban Development presents: 3 phat live sets from [PERLON] recording artists Markus Nikolai Pantytech Dimbiman also playin will be UD's Andre Lucero and Gouracandra with Special guest Spun $20 tickets available at BPM records on Hayes (yeah it's more costly than usual but so are plane tickets and artist fees) It's going to be a small private (read: illegal but the cops don't look for us so we don't get busted)location so be sure to get a ticket. Space is limited to max. 300 heads. We don't card but it tends to be 21+ techheads. Semi-full bar and top quality sound. See you there Hans ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: [313] re: trancey-trance
At the club I worked for last year, we booked all the above mentioned London Liberating Nasty Bastards. The occasionally interesting loop got really monotonous and I think the best word to describe it is Sterile. Now while anything remotely related to techno is more palatable than flat ass house and skygrabber bouncy mono kicked synth pop without vocals, it's still flacid. Does anyone have an explanation for the consummate mediocrity en vogue? I was thinking that either theres a lack of desperation for the pure love of music (read they wanna get laid) or that it has something to do with blandness of food consumed. Give Me Rolando and some spicy ass BBQ anyday! Hans On Tue, 16 May 2000 15:46:14 GMT, Seth Redmond wrote: eh? I've unfortunately spent several nights listening to liberators, dave the drummer et al. foisting this bleepy crap on an invariably drugged-to-the-eyeballs crowd, since it is now being played in previously good clubs, and though Roland the Bastard does have a cool-as-fuck name, the music is tedious in the extreme... america gives us proper techno, and then some years later we take all the funk out of it and send it back as acid trance...and people actually like it? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: (313) f*cked up!
Question? Does Derrick actually show up or does he only bail on American shows? Go to see Carl just in case. On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:45:48, Jason wrote: Location: Glasgow Date: 13th May 2000 Derrick May - Temple club Carl Craig - Bugged out, QM who would you go and see? jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
RE: (313) New album/Romeo
Kid Rock is a rich white kid! Anyone who's ever bought a car from Bob Ritchie Ford in the Northern suburbs of Detroit has contributed to his now meteoric, non-deserving, Bon-joviesque rise to MTV superstardom. Lil' Bobby Ritchie Jr. got all his gear and money to make demos from papa. So he's not really white trash but claims to be, sort of the white CB4 in real life. God I long for those days when he tried to get one half of St. Andrew to Say KID and the other to say ROCK to dead silence. Almost as funny as my friend body slamming som kid to the floor because he had never been near a pit before. No Respect for the True artists in their homes On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:55:03 -0700, Merrick McCartha wrote: I saw Romeo Must Die. I'm sorry folksit IS a good flickworth renting at least. Soundtrack is great and Jet Li does a great job for someone new to 'English-on-film'. I'm not sure why people are bashing it. Can one of you fill me in on the grievances? Sean.you lost me on the (even if it's not a fictional film on the bombing of Kid Rocks trailer park) joke.inside joke? anyways.as far as RMDremember this..Maurice steals the show!!! MORPHEUS:It's that feeling you have had all your life. That feeling that something was wrong with the world. You don't know what it is but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad... ..But what isit? -- The Matrix * Merrick McCartha Design Engineer Space Electronics Inc. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 452-4167 x198 Fax: (858) 452-5499 -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 6:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New album/Romeo New album?!! hell I havent heard the Progress album yet! man am I falling behind. Alan: big hint in that last line directed at you (man am I subtle or what? :^) Okay Alan, on your recommendation alone I'm gonna check out Romeo Must Die it sounds pretty cool (even if it's not a fictional film on the bombing of Kid Rocks trailer park). I've been a huge fan of Jet Next Best Thing to Bruce Li ever since he kicked Mel and Danny's asses in LW4 (the only good thing about that entire movie). The Black Mask was a bit too Green Hornet/Batman for me (even had a cute reference to Kato) but Jet still shined like a star. sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Alan, What's the story on that new album of yours? When will you start working on it and who is going to release it? I hope Tresor is, I get all their stuff on promo. I really liked 'Progress' and I hope some new material is coming soon. John P.S. Are you in Detroit around the time of Carl's festival? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Romeo Must Die (was: replace barbie with ken) In a message dated 4/19/00 8:09:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been wanting to see Romeo Must Die for a while now, but the reviews are so mixed I don't know what to do. How many of you saw it and thought it was The Shit' (©2000 Sean Deason/Matrix records) I saw it and whoever didn't like it is *full* of shit (neatly avoiding trademark hassles by not using the 'the' prefix). Jet's fight scenes were a little Jackie Chan/found- objects-as-weapons-esque, but the film overall was noirish and very stylized and Aaliyah was incredible. The plot became transparent in the third act of the film but it looked so good, it didn't matter. Its Romeo and Juliet subtext was a bit of a stretch, too; in this movie, they weren't lovers (I still like the visually tricked-out Baz Luhrmann alternate-Earth version with Leo and Claire Danes though). The film was set in San Fran and why am I talking about this movie on 313 ? Alan (woken up by upstairs neighbor's mini-revival meeting; wait till I start working on my album) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sean deason matrix records p.o. box 343 dearborn, mi 48121-0343 ph/fax: 313.582.3410 cell: 313.522.3505 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile: seandeason.metrotimes.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,
Re: (313) movies that were filmed in Tha D
With a girlfriend in the Motion picture (ok so it's TV)industry I'm privy to some wierd info. For the most part very few movies are actually filmed on location. Detroit Rock City was filmed in Buffalo for Fuck's sake. The amount of shit that a production crew has to go through is pretty ridiculous as there are so many thing that they have to have and have accounted for. Nearly all of the equipment (ie. Steady Cam operators, Post Production, etc. etc.) is in LA as well as experienced people to handle all aspects of production and logistical issues. Smaller films can film on location but it's still a pain in the ass. Movies like the Bridge, Dertoit Rock City , and Bird on a Wire Contain stock footage of the city but it's somewhat irrational for a film company to actually shoot there. It's not so much an issue of authenticity but logistics. Remeber in Bird on a Wire Mel Gibson and Goldie Hawn took a Ferry from the D to Racine Wisconsin in 2 hours (I think the Ontarians should be pissed about that). And besides why does location of where it was filmed matter if there are indoor shots. As a side note the reason that Detroit has produced such great art over the years (IMO) is that there ain't shit to do but focus on your art. They film shit in San Francisco and LA all the time (I've seen my old apartment in Flashback). But this is a place where artist come to die it's beautiful here but is there anything being produced musically worth a shit no. Any great art no. An artist friend of mine who went to CCC in the D but lives her now calls it the place where artist's come to die. If you want to see tha D go home and visit your folks. Be proud of what's been produced in tha D-even if it is some dorky white kid from Romeo that happens to be the most famous at the moment. Desperation is the only cause of greatness Hans On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:02:26 -0500, Phonopsia wrote: Roger Me is filmed in Flint and Detroit. But a documentary... The new John Frankenheimer film, Reindeer Games is set in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Don't know where it was filmed... There was a gangsta/mafia flick with Nicholas Cage and Michael Rappaport (Dick Richey) that came out two or three years ago - really sucked. This was set in Detroit. Was The Equalizer set in New York or Detroit? I can't remember. Probably wasn't filmed there at any rate. Can't forget the Beverly Hills Cop series... Not sure if these were filmed in Detroit. An addendum: almost everything is filmed off site. Northern Exposure was shot in Washington, not Alaska, most of the X-Files were filmed in Vancouver. Most American movies and television are filmed in Hollywood, except for establishing shots. This doesn't include Scorcese and Woody Allen (and a few others). One thing I've noticed: Detroit seems to be a lot less prominent in the American national media in the 90s than it was in the 80s. Probably because decline is more newsworthy than reconstruction??? Don't really know enough about it to say, and I don't pay enough attention to the news anyway, so this may be completely off base. Regardless, filmmakers always seem to have a distinct purpose in mind when shooting/setting a film in Detroit. There is a distinct mood associated with Detroit in the American consciousness. My filmic $.02 Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, Propper Techno and new Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 3:47 AM Subject: Re: (313) movies that were filmed in Tha D In a message dated 4/13/00 2:30:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in dan sicko's book he mentions that robocop was one of many films which were set in detroit but not filmed in the city. what films were actually filmed in the city? blair There was this made-for-cable movie with Bonnie Bedelia (Bruce Willis' wife in the Die Hard flicks) about five years ago that was actually filmed on location here. The old Hudson's building (RIP) and Old County Building were used (Bedelia's character was a judge). Parts of Out of Sight (Clooney and Lopez) were filmed here, not just exteriors. Exteriors and establishing shots for the now-defunct CBS TV series EZ Streets (Ken Olin) were filmed here. The opening sequence of Beverly Hills Cop was shot here, the bit that ran under the credits. None of the actual narrative, though. Polish Wedding (Liam Neeson and Claire Danes) was actually filmed in Hamtramck. I didn't see Grosse Pointe Blank but I heard most of it was filmed here. Ice Cube's character in Three Kings was a Detroiter. Weren't
Re: (313) Rave betty Barbie and DJ Ken
Jesus do we always have to have this whiny ass discussion. Let's make the distinction please as to the difference between the Rave scene and this mystical Utopian non-existant past that seems to fit so fondly in everyones mind. Raves and the trendy (it's a fashion and drug culture not a music culture stop deluding yourself-who the hell doesn't listen to music on drugs!)have, do, and will suck (opinions-assholes you know the cliche). The phenomena of the 80's in England where the Drug and Fashion culture that later becam raving wasn't based on the music from this list until several years after the Acid Houses Incantation. The Rave merely became a vehicle for Techno. Futuristic beats sound pretty cool on drugs no. As Dan Sicko pointed out most of the Artist you guys idolize on this list (jesus! they just make music) couldn't get heard anywhere and the rave was the only place to play the music of their lives. I'm personally glad that ferngully and re-disco are the only thing you can hear at a rave, I don't have to go to be annoyed with anyone. I can get my friends together throw an intimate 300 person party with great artist who ain't gettin booked at a rave cause they have talent and then I can have a genuine good time (not to mentioned we dress well). Every other week someone in New York, LA, or San Fran is posting about quality small techno events. It can be hard because of the fees that must be paid to the Detroit Artists who have been getting way more fame/respect/money in Europe and recently australia are so high. It would be nice if some of the artist would do some favors and come play for less than their Euro Cost. To build and maintain a lasting you have to maintain the core audience that will stick around. So if anyone knows any cool ass artist (the Burdens have offered) want to come out here hang out with some deprived Tech-heads and rock a small house party let me know. God I remember only 4 years ago seeing Claude Young Tag for 4 Hours with Mike Clark in a Basement in Lansing. Fuckin Quality. The kids are all wrong big deal but unless we snag a few of em an educate em about the history and tradition then there will be no more music being made (in case you havn't noticed some of the artists are like ballplayers gettin over the hill) and all you'll have are achives of this list. Goddamn Ravers Hans Punk Rock boy who likes the damn beats On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:36:31 -0400, Dann W wrote: Oh, stop whining Didn't mean for it to come off in a whining tone but... anyway. it's how you present yourself. Good point, i agree. Many of us who came up in the early days listened, observed, paid attention, respected the people who had been before us and learned about the music and the scene. As do I, and a lot of my friends. I really do wish I could have experienced the scene when it was a little more pure. Unfortunately that's not a possibility. I love the music, so I put up with the shit and make the best of it. Yeah, the scene sucks now but people need to try not to generalize. Theres new school kids out there got the love as well. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Generation Hurl
A glaring example for all to see that either A. the world or B. Rave/Club/No Quality DJ culture is about to shoot itself in the foot and go away for another 10-20 years. Jesus it's bad this time. Worse than the Earring Magic Ken they recalled a few years back after they realized he was gay. The worst part about this is that he's a eurofag with bad hair (if anyone is whiney and gets offended sorry) - http://www.generationgirl.com/catalog/blainecat.asp ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: (313) Real Audio Mixes
Anyone Mention Detroit based www.paxahau.com streaming broadcasts sundaze 12noon-12mid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: (313) Track ID
wasn't that a live crew cut from 87'? hehehe On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:30:49 +0200, Tobias von Hofsten wrote: I know you love to share your knowleadge This one´s kinda nasty though so pleace forgive my language. Here goes: Male singer over a horny housegroove: Ready or not, here it comes... ...something... Here´s your chance to suck my dick... and put it on a mission. (?) Gonna be fuckin´ up and down. Come, come, come, come, come... So, sweet! It´s a gottahave-track for me. Anybody? /Tobias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: (313) NY Times Electronic Article
It's almost annoying to see so many posts on a lame ass NY Times article. We all have noticed how utterly retarted the Rave scene has become (or always was in my opinion). But Techno (and all ther sub-genres because I refuse to use that god forsaken Electronica word) in general is now an officially established ass sucking mainstream phenomenom and it has been progressing that way for years. And if you'll take a short look back into history you'll see what occurs whenever any music based Scene become a mainstream chunk of popular culture (punk, Disco, even late 80's Hair metal). YOU GET SHIT AND IT DIES OFF INTO OBSCURITY! The desperation and the heart are lost from the music and all the bandwagon hoppers make it annoying for the old schoolers to go out to hear what they love. Money and record labels have forced it's way into it and it's impossible for any of us to go see if say Jeff Mills still has it or if he sucks now (I'm curious) but his goddamn fees are too much, so I doubt I'll ever know. Who the fuck cares if so and so get's the recognition they deserve, they are artists and the fact that there is this list devoted to knowing what color every Detroit Dj's shoe's were at such and such show should let you know that they get true recognition from those who know. FUCK the Mainstream Media-it's all lies anyway. Fuck the suck ass Dj's and Producer's who get huge off a name or a cheesy MTV track (or showing some tit like DJ Rap). I'm gettin annoyed as fuck by hearing a shitty jungle track on every car commercial or Pantene Pro V's House tracks. But hey it's ultra popular and the quality is dying for the sake of quantity and you'll keep gettin more and more nostalgic. I could go on bitching forever but won't cause I have to work. So in Closing Fuck the New York Times. Instead of bitching on this list why don't we go write the truth and spread it. Otherwise just sit back and watch it all suck worse and worse until you wake up one day telling you kids what is was like to be a Raver in the 90's (like your friends Hippy mom did about the 60's) Hans On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:57:32 PST, Diana Potts wrote: ...seems like a good 'first baby steps' kinda article. my only beef is that the author decided on Basement Jaxx as the highlight artist for house...IMO Basement Jaxx's tracks have less soul in their pinkie finger compared to the likes of KDJ, Terrence Parker or even the early Jon A./Definitive Tracks...not to mention planetE releases. But perhaps those are left better untouched/tainted. Not to mention, with all due respect to Mr.Hawtin, there are OTHER detroit techno artists besides the said 4 and him...coughAlanOldham...and others that its about time people learned about. 1monthcoutning Diana George Bush Jr. is a moron ::icq::30793657 aol::pottsdia __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: (313) chain reaciton
Perlon is it's own label based in Germany (Koln and Berlin). We had them place for us in September and have them again doing 3 live sets near the beach in Santa Cruz next Month. Their main artists are Markus Nikolai, Pantytech and Mr. Dimbiman. Great shit. Hans On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:06:52 GMT, Nick Craddock wrote: Actually, that may be Perlon - with an 'L'. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???
I have to agree. If you put enough pretty colors on a monster flyer. you could throw a giant 10,000 head techno only party (as long as you have one room full of ferngully 303 preset hell and kick drums over pop synth riff remixes), while trying to do a techno based format for big people clubs has been an utter pain in the ass. We lost our space for our club out here for bullshit reasons and had to cancel a show we had planned with Bone and T-1000 (our former night is now an esdjco overly typical suck ass disco house night). The most unfortunate thing about it all is that no one really wants to lose the money it cost to fly and house one of our detroit heros out here to play for 200 kids and lose your ass. The only draws that'll get you more than 1000 heads are May and Ritchie go figure. I've contemplated going the route of LA and get some corporate sponsors and throw a giant show with Mills but, the sad and hideous state of affairs would be that no one would show up unless I booked Dickweed and Terry Mullan (or other $4000+ Rave circuit players) to get anyone to show up. It sucks that the only way to hear the music you love is to be the jackass who loses his rent money. Fuck it I've moving to Australia. On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:04:35 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that the Rave Scene is necessarily a great place for techno, although at the same time I do hope that techno DJs continue to infiltrate the rave scene and bring their own sounds to those who will listen--which is exactly why I play parties. The rave scene is what's keeping techno alive in the US, strangely enough. I hardly ever get booked at clubs. All the clubs want to hear is commercial Oakenfold bullshit or Eiffel 65 eurotrash pop (aside from Motor and Science of course *wink*). The funny thing about these candy kids is that they *say* they don't like techno until you light their asses up and rock some shit, then they're all over you...what kind of music is that ??? Then you leave the room and they're right back on that happy hardcore cartoon shit...weird. Just my 02. a. ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com
Re: (313) Re: San Fran 2-12-00
Many apologies to those of you who can't take a joke. I was simply making an attempt to humor those of us in the bay area who are tired of the constant bombardment of substandard music (this is a place where you can have someone like Claude Young play and only have 150 kids show up). For those of you who have never been to the bay area it is a place where the trendier bullshit fashion show aspects of raving and clubbing are important than what's playing on the sound system. There are some good things out here musically but that is in a vast minority and my comment was merely something for those who know to giggle about. And just to incur further hate mail for my own amusement.what exactly is going to get ugly? Are you going to make me wear a diaper, stick a pacifier in my mouth and force me to dance around with glowsticks to ferngully trance or soulless disco house? Now that's fuckin ugly. Opinions are like assholes... P.S. Farina's still pretty ok but if you ever see the Wicked crew play they are really nothing to marvel atunless of course you are easily impressed. On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 10:06:07 PST, Shane from PLURkids wrote: hans kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: flavored Techno as opposed to the constant suck-ass bombardment of cracker house and trance you typically get What exactly is cracker house? I REALLY hope you are not referring to San Francisco style house, ala' Farina, Jeno, Markie, Garth, etc, in a derogatory manner - or this could get ugly... Shane PLURkids Productions Info 734.913.9672 www.plurkids.com _ ___ o __)) ))_ )) __ __ _ )) ((_( ((_ (( (| ((_) (( (( __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com
Re: (313) Groove review
I'm going to embarrass myself to prove a point. Groove has to be a sucky Movie plain and simple. but I'll go see it to see if I can see my self. See a few months ago I met this girl at my club and she asked me if I would be interested in going down and dancin or consulting or something for that movie. it was so lame. I was there for one cheesy dance scene where they expect you to dance to some suck ass trance then keep going while they cut the soundtrack for some dialog shot then put it back on. Took the dumbasses 15 time to get a shot right. So I stayed for free food, endured one more take then left. I had no idea what to expect and honestly it was one of the lamest experiences in my life. It was over lit and they put in just about every suck ass stereotypical rave thing you could imagine (shit-they had boxes bulk pacifiers, cheesy alters and enough day-glow to make a blind man see). It'll be more authentic looking than GO but still cheesy as hell. But then again when has anyone ever made a feature film that accurately portrayed a pop culture movement. Those of us who care are too busy trying to hold on to the integrity of the music and don't have time to learn how to make films and write screenplays.or do we? hans On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:26:46 -0500, Holly C MacDonald-Korth wrote: I second that... the review made it sound like the movie Go!... which had to be in the top 10 WORST movies *ever* made... peace, h Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/28/2000 10:09:24 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: Holly C MacDonald-Korth/IRM/FRBOG/US) SubjectRe: (313) Groove review : Im still waiting for the film that follows an exciting night of detroit old skoolers at the bar and thier night of caos following through to their exciting weekly 9-5 jobs. I say the whole staff of Sigma 6 (errrm I mean Apnet) would be a good casting candidate. and how about the DJ who is just tryin to pay the bills and take home a cute honey. From what the review says this film seems to focus on the younger still druggin crowd of rave-bring more bad and typical stereotypes to the scene,the music and the ppl involved??? Dont read me wrong-IM NOT DISSIN a film I havent seen, as I look forward to seeing it. Im just trying to think of all aspects. blahblahblah diana From: matrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Groove review Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:51:29 -0500 Check out the review in The Toronto Star, the paper version comes complete with 4x6 photo from movie, + the headline which reads This Movie should do for Rave what Saturday Night Fever did for Disco! http://www.thestar.com/thestar/editorial/entertainment/2128ENT09_MO-Howell28.html Cheers, Gerald __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com
