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definition of d is one of his best works beside remainings on Drumcode, and bangers are boring and hard for brain that bangers. They live short life on scene Mull is coming back with some new materials as i heard, but im asking are we going to hear some lekebusch stuff, i dont think so... so banging leeds to suffering, and suffering leads to dark side... b. > Yes, those records on Svek he did are really good. 5 out of 5! > I heard Mike Grant playing the "definition of D" on the DEMF 2000 (I wasn´t > there, but saw the realvideo on groovetech).
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Also check out the latest Svek releases. All are very good. 1.Sunday Brunch "Remixes by John Tejada, Mitte Karaoke, and Air Frog" (Svek 060). 2.Air Frog "Leave Me Now" (Svek 062). 3.Sunday Brunch "When It All Comes To This" (Svek 061) - especially the Night Drive mix which is a good electro rework). Orrin - Original Message - From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:16 AM Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > Check out Beyer's Concealed Project material for Svek - much more > 313-friendly than his monotonous Drumcode loop sh!t > > Yes, those records on Svek he did are really good. 5 out of 5! > I heard Mike Grant playing the "definition of D" on the DEMF 2000 (I wasn´t > there, but saw the realvideo on groovetech). > > Cheers, > Maarten >
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sorry if you never got this but my email provider has been down :( -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2003 19:04 To: Fabrizio Nahum; Wibo Lammerts; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 "im seriously into the subrurban knight on peacefrog" me too man, wicked album although a little cheated by some tracks ie been here on 12's but hey that's a small price to pay :) -Original Message- From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2003 13:19 To: Wibo Lammerts; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 i just got it the other day so i havent heard it much yet - that said, i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still good, but its nothing groundbreaking. i love the plain turqouise packaging though :) at moment im seriously into the subrurban knight on peacefrog and the new monobox double on logistic, so these are my reccommendations for this week alogn with the new aroy dee on newworldaquarium. fab. - Original Message - From: "Wibo Lammerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Odeluga, Ken'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > Another "Every Dog"... is it worth getting? > > And on the Axis tip... I heard about this Claude Young record on Axis? Only > 100 copies worldwide available? What;s the story on this? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: vrijdag 9 mei 2003 13:37 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > Blimey, a proper market in Every Dog records! That's virtually the price of > an ordinary LP. In fact that *is* the price of an ordinary LP! > > k > > >-Original Message- > >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:33 PM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > > > > > >www.vinylunderground.co.uk has em at £12.99pretty good > > > >robin... > > > >> Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! > >> > >> This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. > >> > > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03
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> Check out Beyer's Concealed Project material for Svek - much more 313-friendly than his monotonous Drumcode loop sh!t Yes, those records on Svek he did are really good. 5 out of 5! I heard Mike Grant playing the "definition of D" on the DEMF 2000 (I wasn´t there, but saw the realvideo on groovetech). Cheers, Maarten
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Check out Beyer's Concealed Project material for Svek - much more 313-friendly than his monotonous Drumcode loop sh!t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 6:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Today I can't really tell the difference between most of these artists > anymore - they should just all get together and be one big Swedish Super > Group and play one big f*ck off kick drum loop and then go off and try > something different for a change. ;) > > MEK beyer is working on it. check out the ignition key album and/or any of the other things about to come out on truesoul. http://www.truesoulrecords.com/ (the henrik b album advertised there is ambient) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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well it depends on a your brain type, most people are units who are here to reproduce and populate generally go through a rebellious/ liberal phase during adolescence and then conform to the system of populous as they mature. The hard techno sound was actually a product of +8 records, (faster = exciting = +8) a sound that the track Technarchy helped pioneer back in 1990. The 2 beat loop/ dj tools techno can be attributed to the Detroit minimal techno movement of the early to mid 90's. You can see how Jeff Mills dj style helped pioneer that sound especially when Waveform Transmission Vol.1 came out, this was a turning point for Jeff Mills career and would establish himself as one of the most influential techno artist of the 1990's. on 5/9/03 4:55 PM, David Powers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops > but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so > much. > > Also, I found that when I got a little bit older I actually got more tired of > "songs" and "melodies" and often prefer more abstract or minimal sound pieces. > However that includes all kinds of things, from John Cage to Luciano Berio to > Terry Riley to glitchy ambient stuff, as well as hard techno. I think the > problem with hard techno is that it just isn't done with a very creative sense > of track selection and feel, and many DJ sets just don't cut it. I think it > is a problem with the record selection and a lack of creativity on the part of > hard techno DJs who are content to follow a formula, and simply get paid. I > only really like about 25% or less of the more banging techno sets I listen > to. > > To show how complicated my changing tastes are, I have also found I can > appreciate Mozart, Alban Berg, and Gustav Mahler more than I used to. However > I have also found I have far less enjoyment for a lot of the classic jazz I > used to listen to constantly, and can only listen to the certain edgier jazz > artists, such as Cecil Taylor, Ornete, Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, but not so much > Lee Morgan or Dexter Gordon or hard bop. A lot of the soulful things that > people on here dig I just find are too smooth for me, and I'd like to hear > jazz influenced techno take on the more edgy side of jazz. For example, Carl > Craig's earlier project Innerzone Orchestra did tackle this side of jazz and I > thought it was really cool, if not quite perfected yet. On the other hand > Detroit Experiment didn't really do much for me and sounds a lot more > conservative in terms of the jazz it references. > > Just trying to say that there are a lot of different ways of viewing this > question on changing musical tastes, not just the stereotypical "older people > like conservative music." I may like more subtle and refined music, perhaps, > but not necessarily more conservative music.
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ou're right Max. It came up during my first talk with Robert: " 1995 : Nighttime World 1, which was supposed to be H&M : Every Dog Has It's Day, released in 2000. Originally Jeff and I were supposed to record tracks for that album : Every Dog Has It's Day back in '93. Jeff can be erratic at times, he changes minds, but I had already done tracks. These tracks were good so I decided to make an album out of it." John http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/archives/interviews/robert_hood.php PS Does anybody have an idea why I can't send to the list from my Outlook, but can reach the list from my online mailbox of the same account? -Original Message- From: Max Duley / ARCart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zaterdag 10 mei 2003 13:49 To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 I'm sure I read somewhere that the Every Dog material is old, from the early-mid 90s. I I think I read that in a Robert Hood interview...in the printed version of Overload? Am I hallucinating or can anyone confirm?
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The Axis 33 is something of a jive bunny style (not really) megamix of Axis, Purpose Maker & Tomorrow material put together by Claude Young across 2 sides of vinyl. It's very good...not a record to DJ with (unless you're playing to people who've never heard any Mills material). Claude seems to have picked most of my favourite Axis/Mills moments of all styles, ambient, beat driven etc which is just fine with me. I ordered 2 copies for myself and a friend, a couple of days later it was listed as sold out. My friend already knows of someone who paid ?40 for it second hand... Regarding Every Dog...I listened through #4 at home (not my copy) then pulled out my copy of #3 which I'd only played once since I got it a year or so ago. I just can't tell the difference enough to justify picking it up. It's all good stuff, all very worthy, but all the tracks seem based on the same sounds as the other volumes, and nothing stands out. My fave pieces are on #2, although I don't know #1. If there's another I hope it's different. I'm sure I read somewhere that the Every Dog material is old, from the early-mid 90s. I I think I read that in a Robert Hood interview...in the printed version of Overload? Am I hallucinating or can anyone confirm? Sorry if this has been covered in detail already. - Original Message - From: "Wibo Lammerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Odeluga, Ken'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > Another "Every Dog"... is it worth getting? > > And on the Axis tip... I heard about this Claude Young record on Axis? Only > 100 copies worldwide available? What;s the story on this? > >
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amen to growing out of it
"Matthew MacQueen"
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Dog 4
> a lot of people will probably barf all over this statement
> but i think one of the toughest things to do is play a well
> programmed hard techno set.
no you are absolutely right! that's why people who play hard and
INTERESTING with their own personal style can make even the most rigid and
boring monotracks funky: Claude Young! Mills obviously. Surgeon and
Jay Dehman can bring it too, when in form.
The problem is there's for every interesting hard techno DJ there's 100,000
20 year kids with the same records and no skills or ability to program/mix
it, it's just a Beyer megamix yawnfest. It's okay they'll outgrow it ;)
peace,
Matt MacQueenm
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >a lot of people will probably barf all over this statement but i think one >of the toughest things to do is play a well programmed hard techno set. yeah, finding a whole set worth of good records is damn near impossible ; P no really, someone like jeff mills will play some more atmospheric and melodic stuff in with the hardness, and that really makes a big difference. tom andythepooh.com
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> a lot of people will probably barf all over this statement > but i think one of the toughest things to do is play a well > programmed hard techno set. no you are absolutely right! that's why people who play hard and INTERESTING with their own personal style can make even the most rigid and boring monotracks funky: Claude Young! Mills obviously. Surgeon and Jay Dehman can bring it too, when in form. The problem is there's for every interesting hard techno DJ there's 100,000 20 year kids with the same records and no skills or ability to program/mix it, it's just a Beyer megamix yawnfest. It's okay they'll outgrow it ;) peace, Matt MacQueenm
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I think you are 100% correct about that - the best sets I've heard are from
those who have a hip-hop background and have unbelievable skills. This is
about 1% of all the hard techno DJs out there.
MEK
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>>>>>
I think the problem with hard techno is that it just isn't done with a very
creative sense of track selection and feel, and many DJ sets just don't cut
it. I think it is a problem with the record selection and a lack of
creativity on the part of hard techno DJs who are content to follow a
formula, and simply get paid. I only really like about 25% or less of the
more banging techno sets I listen to.
>>>>>
a lot of people will probably barf all over this statement but i think one
of the toughest things to do is play a well programmed hard techno set.
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- Original Message - From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 >>>>> I think the problem with hard techno is that it just isn't done with a very creative sense of track selection and feel, and many DJ sets just don't cut it. I think it is a problem with the record selection and a lack of creativity on the part of hard techno DJs who are content to follow a formula, and simply get paid. I only really like about 25% or less of the more banging techno sets I listen to. >>>>> a lot of people will probably barf all over this statement but i think one of the toughest things to do is play a well programmed hard techno set.
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I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so much. Also, I found that when I got a little bit older I actually got more tired of "songs" and "melodies" and often prefer more abstract or minimal sound pieces. However that includes all kinds of things, from John Cage to Luciano Berio to Terry Riley to glitchy ambient stuff, as well as hard techno. I think the problem with hard techno is that it just isn't done with a very creative sense of track selection and feel, and many DJ sets just don't cut it. I think it is a problem with the record selection and a lack of creativity on the part of hard techno DJs who are content to follow a formula, and simply get paid. I only really like about 25% or less of the more banging techno sets I listen to. To show how complicated my changing tastes are, I have also found I can appreciate Mozart, Alban Berg, and Gustav Mahler more than I used to. However I have also found I have far less enjoyment for a lot of the classic jazz I used to listen to constantly, and can only listen to the certain edgier jazz artists, such as Cecil Taylor, Ornete, Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, but not so much Lee Morgan or Dexter Gordon or hard bop. A lot of the soulful things that people on here dig I just find are too smooth for me, and I'd like to hear jazz influenced techno take on the more edgy side of jazz. For example, Carl Craig's earlier project Innerzone Orchestra did tackle this side of jazz and I thought it was really cool, if not quite perfected yet. On the other hand Detroit Experiment didn't really do much for me and sounds a lot more conservative in terms of the jazz it references. Just trying to say that there are a lot of different ways of viewing this question on changing musical tastes, not just the stereotypical "older people like conservative music." I may like more subtle and refined music, perhaps, but not necessarily more conservative music. ------ Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:16:28 -0500 From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fabrizio Nahum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> those are logical conclusions and I agree for the most part although i would be careful in implying track based techno is immature it's more about peoples brains maturing and their taste changing (becoming more conservative) in the process. Part of it is conforming to the system as they stop the rebellion phase, anti social behavior of adolescence and the natural maternal mode once a human passes their sexual prime. I recall you being Italian maybe you can briefly tell me how the 313 techno scene or techno in general is in Northern Italy, if not disregard my email, thanks. on 5/9/03 11:00 AM, Fabrizio Nahum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think we should actually have a thread on this. it seems to be one of > spw's pet peeves :) > > to me the answers lie in different factors: > > age. let's be honest, we get old and our tastes change. some of us here were > into grind and death metal besides hard acidic techno. now we dig metro area > and theo, moodyman etc. let's say there's an evolution taking place. also, > and this is related to the age thing, a lot of us dont go clubbing as much > as we used to. those of us that used to take chemical dance enhancers > probably dont anymore, and certain types of music just dont sound the same > no more. > > another factor is that 313 techno, at least to me and generally speaking, is > characterized by harmony and melodics - not just a pounding looped groove. > oh, dont interject with references to mills, hood, oldham et al., im > speaking in general terms here. there is a definite song structure there > that other types of techno just dont have. this leads to the appreciation of > the types of music that spw is singling out. > > these are some of my opinions on the subject - please excuse any perceived > superficiality in my post, im at work and writing a 4 page essay on 313 > users musical preferences isnt exaclty what i get paid for ;-) > > btw, i agree with ken, theres either good music and bad music, regardless of > genre, type or style. > > have a nice weekend all of you > fab.
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >beyer is working on it. check out the ignition key album and/or any of the >other things about to come out on truesoul. i just heard ignition key for the first time this week. while its not the best thing ive ever heard, its certainly pretty decent and interesting. much better than what ive heard beyer deejay. maybe some of those guys will come around to making more interesting music, that would be nice. tom andythepooh.com
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- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Today I can't really tell the difference between most of these artists > anymore - they should just all get together and be one big Swedish Super > Group and play one big f*ck off kick drum loop and then go off and try > something different for a change. ;) > > MEK beyer is working on it. check out the ignition key album and/or any of the other things about to come out on truesoul. http://www.truesoulrecords.com/ (the henrik b album advertised there is ambient)
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-- Original Message -- From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >those are logical conclusions and I agree for the most part although i >would be careful in implying track based techno is immature it's more about >peoples brains maturing and their taste changing (becoming more >conservative) in the process. thats funny, i see it the entire other way around. the abstract value of a pounding kick style techno is nearly nil. its power on the dancefloor value is high. very conservative. on the other hard, detroit techno and house have high abstract value, and lesser mainstream dancefloor appeal. its much more challenging. its like listerning to glenn miller vs. sun ra. >Part of it is conforming to the system as they stop the rebellion phase, >anti social behavior of >adolescence >and the natural maternal mode once a >human passes their sexual prime. i certainly dont see any conformity in listening to music that has as little to do with strictly dancefloor techno at all. but then again i dont think i need to point out that you have no idea what youre talking about. tom andythepooh.com
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"im seriously into the subrurban knight on peacefrog" me too man, wicked album although a little cheated by some tracks ie been here on 12's but hey that's a small price to pay :) -Original Message- From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2003 13:19 To: Wibo Lammerts; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 i just got it the other day so i havent heard it much yet - that said, i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still good, but its nothing groundbreaking. i love the plain turqouise packaging though :) at moment im seriously into the subrurban knight on peacefrog and the new monobox double on logistic, so these are my reccommendations for this week alogn with the new aroy dee on newworldaquarium. fab. - Original Message - From: "Wibo Lammerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Odeluga, Ken'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > Another "Every Dog"... is it worth getting? > > And on the Axis tip... I heard about this Claude Young record on Axis? Only > 100 copies worldwide available? What;s the story on this? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: vrijdag 9 mei 2003 13:37 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > Blimey, a proper market in Every Dog records! That's virtually the price of > an ordinary LP. In fact that *is* the price of an ordinary LP! > > k > > >-Original Message- > >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:33 PM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > > > > > >www.vinylunderground.co.uk has em at £12.99pretty good > > > >robin... > > > >> Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! > >> > >> This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. > >> > > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03
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There's good techno coming out of Sweden and there's bad techno - or maybe
I should say techno that's not as good as others - also coming out of
Sweden.
The two big names of course are Lekebusch and Beyer.
Personally, I prefer Lekebusch - there is more diversity in his work. He
explores dub, hip-hop, house(ish) sounds, electro.
Beyer tends to keep to the 909 drum kick techno - a few tracks when first
listened to are cool but after that I think they get boring.
I used to be a huge Swedish techno fan (and was on Stjartlapp as much as I
am on this list now) - had practically every Beyer and Lekebusch record
made but after a while I found the sounds and compositions getting
repetitive (no pun intended). I sold most of those records because I had no
use for them anymore. I've kept Lekebusch's Mr. Barth material because I
thought it was the most interesting - everything else was just a loong
exploration of the same sounds record after record. I lost interest in it.
That goes as well for people like Thomas Krome, Henrik B, David Roiseux,
Johan Bacto, Hardcell, Mhonolink - I was into all of them big time for
years and years but then I just found that their music wasn't very diverse.
Yeah, I was getting older but I think my taste in music was becoming more
deep. I used to think that harder faster darker was the best - and it seems
like the majority of Swedish tech is like this. From a talent side - I
found that the tunes had mostly a heavy drum pattern, then there was the
hook, maybe it was some twisted little break down or a couple of synth
stabs and then back to the drum pattern. And I never found the drum
patterns by themselves very interesting - they just "kicked". It was
usually the hook that got me to by the record. As time went on I found the
hooks to be more gimmicky - one person would do some new kind of filter
affect and then you'd hear it in several other records coming from the same
stables. Krome would do some weird distortion, then maybe a week later
you'd get Bacto doing it and so on. It got to be predictable - Air Frog
anyone? That to me was closer to pop music mentality than anything coming
out of Detroit.
Today I can't really tell the difference between most of these artists
anymore - they should just all get together and be one big Swedish Super
Group and play one big f*ck off kick drum loop and then go off and try
something different for a change. ;)
MEK
spw
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05/09/03 09:41 AM
It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno
over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors.
This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro
music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno.
on 5/9/03 10:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> M McQueen
>> what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there
>> diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer
>> tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when
the
>> "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel
like
>> I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to
be
>> sure!
>
> Could I ask whether you don't think there is a utilty for a dj in *all*
the
> tracks of each volume as a whole? (i.e. fewer tracks is fewer to play
with,
> more is greater freedom to be more varied in how you program/mix).
>
> Genuine q fr som1 who's not a dj, only plays records together (sometimes
> well.)
>
> k
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those are logical conclusions and I agree for the most part although i would be careful in implying track based techno is immature it's more about peoples brains maturing and their taste changing (becoming more conservative) in the process. Part of it is conforming to the system as they stop the rebellion phase, anti social behavior of adolescence and the natural maternal mode once a human passes their sexual prime. I recall you being Italian maybe you can briefly tell me how the 313 techno scene or techno in general is in Northern Italy, if not disregard my email, thanks. on 5/9/03 11:00 AM, Fabrizio Nahum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think we should actually have a thread on this. it seems to be one of > spw's pet peeves :) > > to me the answers lie in different factors: > > age. let's be honest, we get old and our tastes change. some of us here were > into grind and death metal besides hard acidic techno. now we dig metro area > and theo, moodyman etc. let's say there's an evolution taking place. also, > and this is related to the age thing, a lot of us dont go clubbing as much > as we used to. those of us that used to take chemical dance enhancers > probably dont anymore, and certain types of music just dont sound the same > no more. > > another factor is that 313 techno, at least to me and generally speaking, is > characterized by harmony and melodics - not just a pounding looped groove. > oh, dont interject with references to mills, hood, oldham et al., im > speaking in general terms here. there is a definite song structure there > that other types of techno just dont have. this leads to the appreciation of > the types of music that spw is singling out. > > these are some of my opinions on the subject - please excuse any perceived > superficiality in my post, im at work and writing a 4 page essay on 313 > users musical preferences isnt exaclty what i get paid for ;-) > > btw, i agree with ken, theres either good music and bad music, regardless of > genre, type or style. > > have a nice weekend all of you > fab.
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Yeah - it's funny how everyone on this list tends to favour Detroit house and techno. Strange even. -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 3:46 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 (correction) on 5/9/03 10:24 AM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was just stating an observation. > > To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of "Swedish > techno" for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement > without being specific about an artist or label. I just realized I made the same generalizations about Swedish techno in a previous post which should be more like (not read because of grammar errors to conceal my identity/ access to classified information): It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno like Adam Bayer - Drumcode. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Whatever -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 3:46 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 (correction) on 5/9/03 10:24 AM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was just stating an observation. > > To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of "Swedish > techno" for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement > without being specific about an artist or label. I just realized I made the same generalizations about Swedish techno in a previous post which should be more like (not read because of grammar errors to conceal my identity/ access to classified information): It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno like Adam Bayer - Drumcode. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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on 5/9/03 10:24 AM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was just stating an observation. > > To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of "Swedish > techno" for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement > without being specific about an artist or label. I just realized I made the same generalizations about Swedish techno in a previous post which should be more like (not read because of grammar errors to conceal my identity/ access to classified information): It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno like Adam Bayer - Drumcode.
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I was just stating an observation. To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of "Swedish techno" for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement without being specific about an artist or label. on 5/9/03 11:43 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No sh!t Sherlock. > What's wrong with disliking Swedish techno and liking Nick Holder or Yello?
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I think we should actually have a thread on this. it seems to be one of spw's pet peeves :) to me the answers lie in different factors: age. let's be honest, we get old and our tastes change. some of us here were into grind and death metal besides hard acidic techno. now we dig metro area and theo, moodyman etc. let's say there's an evolution taking place. also, and this is related to the age thing, a lot of us dont go clubbing as much as we used to. those of us that used to take chemical dance enhancers probably dont anymore, and certain types of music just dont sound the same no more. another factor is that 313 techno, at least to me and generally speaking, is characterized by harmony and melodics - not just a pounding looped groove. oh, dont interject with references to mills, hood, oldham et al., im speaking in general terms here. there is a definite song structure there that other types of techno just dont have. this leads to the appreciation of the types of music that spw is singling out. these are some of my opinions on the subject - please excuse any perceived superficiality in my post, im at work and writing a 4 page essay on 313 users musical preferences isnt exaclty what i get paid for ;-) btw, i agree with ken, theres either good music and bad music, regardless of genre, type or style. have a nice weekend all of you fab. - Original Message - From: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno > over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. > This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro > music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno. > > on 5/9/03 10:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > M McQueen > >> what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there > >> diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer > >> tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the > >> "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like > >> I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be > >> sure! > > > > Could I ask whether you don't think there is a utilty for a dj in *all* the > > tracks of each volume as a whole? (i.e. fewer tracks is fewer to play with, > > more is greater freedom to be more varied in how you program/mix). > > > > Genuine q fr som1 who's not a dj, only plays records together (sometimes > > well.) > > > > k >
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oh, it's more than favoritism -- it's a conspiracy! DJ Fox Mulder On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 10:41 AM, spw wrote: It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno.
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Count me out of this coming 'discussion'. I've never made a case for any (faux) sub-genre over any other. Nor anyone's right to like what they like. All I know is crap music and good music. That exists in every genre, time & space. >-Original Message- >From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 3:42 PM >To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > >It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno >over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. >This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro >music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno. > >on 5/9/03 10:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> M McQueen >>> what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there >>> diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer >>> tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. >Or when the >>> "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) >I feel like >>> I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some >standouts, to be >>> sure! >> >> Could I ask whether you don't think there is a utilty for a dj >in *all* the >> tracks of each volume as a whole? (i.e. fewer tracks is fewer to >play with, >> more is greater freedom to be more varied in how you program/mix). >> >> Genuine q fr som1 who's not a dj, only plays records together (sometimes >> well.) >> >> k > >
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-- Original Message -- From: spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno >over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. >This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro >music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno. wow, youre like, so observant or something, dude. tom andythepooh.com
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> It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno > over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. > This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro > music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno. ..must not reply to troll dammit...it's friday please forgive me robin...
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No sh!t Sherlock. What's wrong with disliking Swedish techno and liking Nick Holder or Yello? -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:42 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno. on 5/9/03 10:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > M McQueen >> what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there >> diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer >> tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the >> "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like >> I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be >> sure! > > Could I ask whether you don't think there is a utilty for a dj in *all* the > tracks of each volume as a whole? (i.e. fewer tracks is fewer to play with, > more is greater freedom to be more varied in how you program/mix). > > Genuine q fr som1 who's not a dj, only plays records together (sometimes > well.) > > k # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno. on 5/9/03 10:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > M McQueen >> what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there >> diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer >> tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the >> "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like >> I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be >> sure! > > Could I ask whether you don't think there is a utilty for a dj in *all* the > tracks of each volume as a whole? (i.e. fewer tracks is fewer to play with, > more is greater freedom to be more varied in how you program/mix). > > Genuine q fr som1 who's not a dj, only plays records together (sometimes > well.) > > k
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I think to myself.. Along the lines of.. "the rest of the sh1t was a pile of crock, so why should this one be any different" .. Sorta High tower will back me up on this one -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2003 17:32 To: spw; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 When I shop for records, I keep just one thing in mind: does it sound good? -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 I disagree with the following views expressed, the more tracks the merrier especially when your dealing with techno and the DJ tools factor. When I shop for techno i keep two things in mind when determining if a record is worthy of purchase: #1. how it sounds #2. utilization and incomparability for mixing purposes That being said I have yet to buy an Every Dog record (not high on my priority list) even though I been tempted to buy several volumes. on 5/9/03 9:36 AM, Ryan Snowden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Point. As soon as the release number exceeds that of police academy > movies, people should boycot the artist :-) > > -Original Message- > From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 May 2003 15:34 > To: Fabrizio Nahum; Wibo Lammerts; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > >> i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others >> are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still >> good, but its nothing groundbreaking. > > that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong > -- what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out > there diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have > fewer tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the > "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like > I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to > be sure! > > peace, > Matt MacQueen # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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> When I shop for records, I keep just one thing in mind: does it sound good? Me too, also because im not a dj and sitting at home listining to dj tools can get a bit tedious after a while fab. - Original Message - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 6:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > When I shop for records, I keep just one thing in mind: does it sound good? > > -Original Message- > From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:29 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > I disagree with the following views expressed, the more tracks the merrier > especially when your dealing with techno and the DJ tools factor. > > When I shop for techno i keep two things in mind when determining if a > record is worthy of purchase: > > #1. how it sounds > > #2. utilization and incomparability for mixing purposes > > That being said I have yet to buy an Every Dog record (not high on my > priority list) even though I been tempted to buy several volumes. > > on 5/9/03 9:36 AM, Ryan Snowden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Point. As soon as the release number exceeds that of police academy movies, > > people should boycot the artist :-) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 09 May 2003 15:34 > > To: Fabrizio Nahum; Wibo Lammerts; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > > > >> i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others > >> are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still > >> good, but its nothing groundbreaking. > > > > that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong -- > > what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there > > diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer > > tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the > > "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like > > I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be > > sure! > > > > peace, > > Matt MacQueen > > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > # >
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When I shop for records, I keep just one thing in mind: does it sound good? -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 I disagree with the following views expressed, the more tracks the merrier especially when your dealing with techno and the DJ tools factor. When I shop for techno i keep two things in mind when determining if a record is worthy of purchase: #1. how it sounds #2. utilization and incomparability for mixing purposes That being said I have yet to buy an Every Dog record (not high on my priority list) even though I been tempted to buy several volumes. on 5/9/03 9:36 AM, Ryan Snowden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Point. As soon as the release number exceeds that of police academy movies, > people should boycot the artist :-) > > -Original Message- > From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 May 2003 15:34 > To: Fabrizio Nahum; Wibo Lammerts; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > >> i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others >> are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still >> good, but its nothing groundbreaking. > > that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong -- > what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there > diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer > tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the > "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like > I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be > sure! > > peace, > Matt MacQueen # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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I disagree with the following views expressed, the more tracks the merrier especially when your dealing with techno and the DJ tools factor. When I shop for techno i keep two things in mind when determining if a record is worthy of purchase: #1. how it sounds #2. utilization and incomparability for mixing purposes That being said I have yet to buy an Every Dog record (not high on my priority list) even though I been tempted to buy several volumes. on 5/9/03 9:36 AM, Ryan Snowden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Point. As soon as the release number exceeds that of police academy movies, > people should boycot the artist :-) > > -Original Message- > From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 May 2003 15:34 > To: Fabrizio Nahum; Wibo Lammerts; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > >> i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others >> are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still >> good, but its nothing groundbreaking. > > that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong -- > what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there > diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer > tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the > "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like > I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be > sure! > > peace, > Matt MacQueen
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M McQueen >what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there >diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer >tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the >"best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like >I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be >sure! Could I ask whether you don't think there is a utilty for a dj in *all* the tracks of each volume as a whole? (i.e. fewer tracks is fewer to play with, more is greater freedom to be more varied in how you program/mix). Genuine q fr som1 who's not a dj, only plays records together (sometimes well.) k
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>> that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong -- what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be sure! << THe 2 and the 4 have their moments. The 1 and 3 are a bit boring IMHO. The 2 is in my opinion the best. Check the B1 track! Derrick May back alive! Also on the 4 is a really good track. I think it is the C1. Cheers, Maarten
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Point. As soon as the release number exceeds that of police academy movies, people should boycot the artist :-) -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2003 15:34 To: Fabrizio Nahum; Wibo Lammerts; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others > are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still > good, but its nothing groundbreaking. that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong -- what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be sure! peace, Matt MacQueen
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> i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the > others are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. > which is still good, but its nothing groundbreaking. that's sort of the way I felt about vol. 3 myself. Don't get me wrong -- what Mills does in this style is better than a lot of the crap out there diluting the market with average techno -- , but I'd rather have fewer tracks that are just... well... more memorable or something. Or when the "best of Every Dog vols. 1 thru 6" comes out let me know. ;) I feel like I keep buying the same tracks. That said there are some standouts, to be sure! peace, Matt MacQueen
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i just got it the other day so i havent heard it much yet - that said, i feel there are only 2 tracks that really stand out while the others are in the typical millsart everydog/metropolis style. which is still good, but its nothing groundbreaking. i love the plain turqouise packaging though :) at moment im seriously into the subrurban knight on peacefrog and the new monobox double on logistic, so these are my reccommendations for this week alogn with the new aroy dee on newworldaquarium. fab. - Original Message - From: "Wibo Lammerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Odeluga, Ken'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > Another "Every Dog"... is it worth getting? > > And on the Axis tip... I heard about this Claude Young record on Axis? Only > 100 copies worldwide available? What;s the story on this? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: vrijdag 9 mei 2003 13:37 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > Blimey, a proper market in Every Dog records! That's virtually the price of > an ordinary LP. In fact that *is* the price of an ordinary LP! > > k > > >-Original Message- > >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:33 PM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > > > > > >www.vinylunderground.co.uk has em at £12.99pretty good > > > >robin... > > > >> Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! > >> > >> This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. > >> > > >
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Another "Every Dog"... is it worth getting? And on the Axis tip... I heard about this Claude Young record on Axis? Only 100 copies worldwide available? What;s the story on this? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 9 mei 2003 13:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Every Dog 4 Blimey, a proper market in Every Dog records! That's virtually the price of an ordinary LP. In fact that *is* the price of an ordinary LP! k >-Original Message- >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:33 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > >www.vinylunderground.co.uk has em at £12.99pretty good > >robin... > >> Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! >> >> This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. >> >
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Blimey, a proper market in Every Dog records! That's virtually the price of an ordinary LP. In fact that *is* the price of an ordinary LP! k >-Original Message- >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:33 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > > > >www.vinylunderground.co.uk has em at £12.99pretty good > >robin... > >> Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! >> >> This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. >> >
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www.vinylunderground.co.uk has em at £12.99pretty good robin... > Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! > > This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. >
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Russhour is the winner: only 17,50 EURO! This is the cheapest copy of an Every Dog Has Its Day ever, I presume. Cheers, Maarten
(313) Every Dog 4
Only 3000 copies in the uk, I hear (but it will be reprinted, maybe). Boomkat.com has some. £18.99 k
