Re: (313) Convextion in SF next Friday

2013-04-26 Thread andrewdukecognition
Awesome lineup. Hope it will be recorded. 

http://andrewdukeinthemix.com

On 2013-04-26, at 4:40 PM, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

> Convextion is playing live in San Francisco Friday the 3rd along with Jonah 
> Sharp's new live collaboration Polk and Hyde. S/H/A/P/E/S will be opening so 
> come early, check out our live hardware show and say hi.
> 
> http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?472104
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/s-h-a-p-e-s/
> 


(313) Convextion in SF next Friday

2013-04-26 Thread james . hurlbut
Convextion is playing live in San Francisco Friday the 3rd along with  
Jonah Sharp's new live collaboration Polk and Hyde. S/H/A/P/E/S will  
be opening so come early, check out our live hardware show and say hi.


http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?472104

https://soundcloud.com/s-h-a-p-e-s/



(313) Convextion album now available on CD

2008-06-26 Thread JT Stewart
Pardon my sales-pitch!

Now available on Compact Disc

Convextion - S/T (dLVEXTCD)

Tracklist:
1 Equanimity
2 Solum Ferrum (extended version)
3 Sulphur Vent
4 Astrum
5 Premiata
6 Interlude I
7 Desolate Hub
8 Interlude II
9 Venea
10 JMA020603

Will be available at Dope Jams in a week or so, and at Rush Hour in a
couple weeks

You can also order direct from us -- $13 shipped in the USA, or $16
shipped to anywhere else in the world

Write me privately if you wanna grab one

Thanks yall

JT @ dL


Re: (313) Convextion Live

2008-05-21 Thread Greg Earle

Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
Anything to keep my bus seat to hell clean and sanitary and free of 
booty juice.


On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:34 PM, 1-11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You, Sir, are a scholar and a gentlemen and thus, have rendered my disco
bits dry as a bone.

Thank you.


Funniest (313) thread of the year :)

   - Greg



Re: (313) Convextion Live

2008-05-21 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Anything to keep my bus seat to hell clean and sanitary and free of booty juice.

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:34 PM, 1-11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You, Sir, are a scholar and a gentlemen and thus, have rendered my disco
> bits dry as a bone.
>
> Thank you.

-- 
matt kane's brain
biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org


Re: (313) Convextion Live

2008-05-21 Thread 1-11
You, Sir, are a scholar and a gentlemen and thus, have rendered my disco 
bits dry as a bone.


Thank you.

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From: "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "1-11" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion Live



It's linked on that page, Mister Sweaty Balls. I've copied it here in
case you don't have a towel handy:
http://sound.modelfruit.com/sets/convextion_-_faktion_mcr_25.04.08.zip

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, 1-11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anybody have an MP3 of this available, please?
Podcasts make my nads sweat.

- Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: (313) Convextion Live




Podcast of Convextion live at Faktion in Manchester can be had here:

http://www.faktionmcr.blogspot.com

I couldn't make it but apparently even the sound was good (a rarity in
 Manchester - apart from Francis' do over the weekend of course ;) ).

robin...






--
matt kane's brain
biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org 




Re: (313) Convextion Live

2008-05-21 Thread Wojtek
Lots of great mixes on that site btw...

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Matt Kane's Brain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's linked on that page, Mister Sweaty Balls. I've copied it here in
> case you don't have a towel handy:
> http://sound.modelfruit.com/sets/convextion_-_faktion_mcr_25.04.08.zip
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, 1-11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anybody have an MP3 of this available, please?
>> Podcasts make my nads sweat.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:23 AM
>> Subject: (313) Convextion Live
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Podcast of Convextion live at Faktion in Manchester can be had here:
>>>
>>> http://www.faktionmcr.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> I couldn't make it but apparently even the sound was good (a rarity in
>>>  Manchester - apart from Francis' do over the weekend of course ;) ).
>>>
>>> robin...
>>
>
>
>
> --
> matt kane's brain
> biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
>


Re: (313) Convextion Live

2008-05-21 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
It's linked on that page, Mister Sweaty Balls. I've copied it here in
case you don't have a towel handy:
http://sound.modelfruit.com/sets/convextion_-_faktion_mcr_25.04.08.zip

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM, 1-11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody have an MP3 of this available, please?
> Podcasts make my nads sweat.
>
> - Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:23 AM
> Subject: (313) Convextion Live
>
>
>>
>> Podcast of Convextion live at Faktion in Manchester can be had here:
>>
>> http://www.faktionmcr.blogspot.com
>>
>> I couldn't make it but apparently even the sound was good (a rarity in
>>  Manchester - apart from Francis' do over the weekend of course ;) ).
>>
>> robin...
>



-- 
matt kane's brain
biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org


Re: (313) Convextion Live

2008-05-21 Thread 1-11
Does anybody have an MP3 of this available, please?  


Podcasts make my nads sweat.

- Original Message - 
From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: (313) Convextion Live




Podcast of Convextion live at Faktion in Manchester can be had here:

http://www.faktionmcr.blogspot.com

I couldn't make it but apparently even the sound was good (a rarity in  
Manchester - apart from Francis' do over the weekend of course ;) ).


robin...


(313) Convextion Live

2008-05-20 Thread robin


Podcast of Convextion live at Faktion in Manchester can be had here:

http://www.faktionmcr.blogspot.com

I couldn't make it but apparently even the sound was good (a rarity in  
Manchester - apart from Francis' do over the weekend of course ;) ).


robin...


(313) Convextion in the UK this weekend

2008-04-30 Thread Tristan Watkins
Here's what I wrote up on Sunday, which bounced because I keep forgetting to
turn off HTML formatting. 
 
Gerard played some amazing new electro tunes at Fabric last night. Generally
I'm more disposed to like his dubby and Detroity techno stuff rather than
electro, and I think in a lot of ways that stuff would possibly find him
more fans, but he's obviously really feeling the electro stuff he's doing at
the moment and he just keeps doing it incredibly well. I find it most
impressive when someone can explore a side of themselves relentlessly like
this - where they bascially persuade me that what they are doing is right,
despite my normal inclinations towards a different side of their sound. 
 
There were at least four or five tracks I'd never heard before with those
ridiculously intricate massive rubber basslines like in Alsoran, his
signature pads, etc. He also played one really organic sounding one that was
unlike anything I'd ever heard before, but somehow still recognisably him. I
can't wait for some of this to wind up on wax. 
 
I think it took a lot of balls to play a set of pure, emotional electro like
that to the crowd at Fabric, and I think it went over really well. How were
the sets in Manchester and Glasgow received? 
 
Tristan 
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RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-29 Thread Toby Frith

Apparently Gerard's set will be released by Fabric on their Fabric First 
podcast if it gets the ok from him.



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Sent: 28 April 2008 12:42
To: /0; Martin Dust; Robert Taylor
Cc: Toby Frith; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


> I've actually seen a couple reputable DJs to play an anemic hour of their 
> set before realizing the lows were killed at the mixer.

Ha! I accidentally did that for about five minutes of an Echospace tune (of 
all things) during the last set that I played. It's true that you won't 
often get a good feel for the bass levels out of monitors, but the 
monitoring on the stage at Fabric is usually pretty full and clear.

Tristan
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Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He's known in Glasgow as "Techno's answer to Kevin Bacon" :)

2008/4/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ha!  The funny thing is Gerard is so young looking I had a mate who was there 
> who I could no way convince it was the same guy.  I
>  even told him "look I 100% know it's the same person and if it isn't I'll 
> give you £100".  But he wouldn't believe me until Gerard
>  told him.
>
>
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
>  > Sent: 28 April 2008 16:37
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> >
>  >What's with people like Gerard and Terrance Dixon who
>  > literally dissapear for 10 years and then just start churning new
>  > releases and doing gigs all over the place again- what have they been
>  > up to for 10 years? :)
>
>


RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Odeluga, Ken
If your mate's reading this he'll know you were winding him up with that 
pretend Gerard now though, won't he? ;-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:46 PM
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Ha!  The funny thing is Gerard is so young looking I had a mate who was there 
who I could no way convince it was the same guy.  I even told him "look I 100% 
know it's the same person and if it isn't I'll give you £100".  But he wouldn't 
believe me until Gerard told him.


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 April 2008 16:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>What's with people like Gerard and Terrance Dixon who  literally 
>dissapear for 10 years and then just start churning new  releases and 
>doing gigs all over the place again- what have they been  up to for 10 
>years? :)


RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ha!  The funny thing is Gerard is so young looking I had a mate who was there 
who I could no way convince it was the same guy.  I
even told him "look I 100% know it's the same person and if it isn't I'll give 
you £100".  But he wouldn't believe me until Gerard
told him.


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 April 2008 16:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>What's with people like Gerard and Terrance Dixon who
> literally dissapear for 10 years and then just start churning new
> releases and doing gigs all over the place again- what have they been
> up to for 10 years? :)



Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sounds fantastic- Convextion was here in Glasgow in Sunday night, also
in a tiny venue (holds 100 people max) but we were all too destroyed
to go.  What's with people like Gerard and Terrance Dixon who
literally dissapear for 10 years and then just start churning new
releases and doing gigs all over the place again- what have they been
up to for 10 years? :)

Jason

2008/4/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Wooo! sounds like I got the right end of this deal.  When I saw Convextion 
> was over to play Fabric I was all set to make the journey
>  South.  Then a few weeks ago I found out the local promoter who'd put him on 
> in Manchester last time had scored him to do a little
>  low key gig here on the Friday.
>
>  As good as his last gig here was this was even better.  Not as many people 
> there but I thought just the right amount.  And while
>  everybody supporting him last time was good, I think this was the best night 
> of music I've heard here in Manchester for some time.
>  But the biggest difference was the sound (sorry Robin ;-).  The promoters 
> used a little out of the way venue which is part of a
>  local music tech educational establishment.  I don't know, but I'm guessing, 
> this is the room they use to teach live sound
>  engineering.  And the set up was absolutely top.  Little dark room, cheap 
> bar, nice little outside area for smoking and the sound
>  quality we almost never get in this city.
>
>  Unfortunately I missed the first DJ, Sequence's Steve Gravener but arrived 
> in time for most of Conor Thomas, who was appearing under
>  some crazy made up moniker, and who set the tone for fine tunes.  By the 
> time the next DJ, Eastern Bloc's Karl Roscoe, came on I was
>  I just the right mood for the impeccably crafted mix of Basic Channel and 
> associated goodies (some, I believe, home brewed) he
>  served up.  It was a real moment to be in the dancing in the dark in front 
> of a superb sounding speaker stack as personal favourite
>  M4.5 played for an appropriately long time.  All the guys supporting Gerard 
> were local DJs, either residents of Faktion, the new
>  identity for this night, or friends, but you couldn't have asked for better. 
>  I don't even know the name of the guy who closed out
>  after Convextion but he was top notch.  And as for the main event I came 
> absolutely buzzing to see him after the last gig yet rather
>  than being disappointed I was blown away all over again.  As Toby says about 
> the London gig, a little bit more on the ERP / electro
>  vibe than last time but still serving up stunning pads and washes (if that 
> makes any sense).  At one point my head was nodding (I
>  wasn't just head nodding, the rest of me was dancing) so hard to some 
> amazing drums it must have been getting down near my knees.
>
>  Roll on the next Faktion, 6th of June I believe, 
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43967135248
>
>
>
>  > From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Sent: 28 April 2008 10:55
>  >
>
>
> > A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP 
> > style electro that sounded razorsharp on the
>  > soundsystem..some new bits and classics, although Vox Automaton was a bit 
> short for some reason. Very happy to see him get a
>  > fantastic reaction as well.
>  >
>  > Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will elucidate 
> far more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was
>  > muddy, so you couldn't hear the treble at all, but this was an hour of 
> relentlessly dull dub techno with no variation or subtlety
>  > whatsoever, and a real shame because one of them (not mr Modell) was 
> having the time of his life behind the laptop. A shame he
>  > couldn't obviously hear what sh*te we were hearing.
>
>
>


RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wooo! sounds like I got the right end of this deal.  When I saw Convextion was 
over to play Fabric I was all set to make the journey
South.  Then a few weeks ago I found out the local promoter who'd put him on in 
Manchester last time had scored him to do a little
low key gig here on the Friday.

As good as his last gig here was this was even better.  Not as many people 
there but I thought just the right amount.  And while
everybody supporting him last time was good, I think this was the best night of 
music I've heard here in Manchester for some time.
But the biggest difference was the sound (sorry Robin ;-).  The promoters used 
a little out of the way venue which is part of a
local music tech educational establishment.  I don't know, but I'm guessing, 
this is the room they use to teach live sound
engineering.  And the set up was absolutely top.  Little dark room, cheap bar, 
nice little outside area for smoking and the sound
quality we almost never get in this city.

Unfortunately I missed the first DJ, Sequence's Steve Gravener but arrived in 
time for most of Conor Thomas, who was appearing under
some crazy made up moniker, and who set the tone for fine tunes.  By the time 
the next DJ, Eastern Bloc's Karl Roscoe, came on I was
I just the right mood for the impeccably crafted mix of Basic Channel and 
associated goodies (some, I believe, home brewed) he
served up.  It was a real moment to be in the dancing in the dark in front of a 
superb sounding speaker stack as personal favourite
M4.5 played for an appropriately long time.  All the guys supporting Gerard 
were local DJs, either residents of Faktion, the new
identity for this night, or friends, but you couldn't have asked for better.  I 
don't even know the name of the guy who closed out
after Convextion but he was top notch.  And as for the main event I came 
absolutely buzzing to see him after the last gig yet rather
than being disappointed I was blown away all over again.  As Toby says about 
the London gig, a little bit more on the ERP / electro
vibe than last time but still serving up stunning pads and washes (if that 
makes any sense).  At one point my head was nodding (I
wasn't just head nodding, the rest of me was dancing) so hard to some amazing 
drums it must have been getting down near my knees.

Roll on the next Faktion, 6th of June I believe, 
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43967135248



> From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 April 2008 10:55
> 
> A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP 
> style electro that sounded razorsharp on the
> soundsystem..some new bits and classics, although Vox Automaton was a bit 
> short for some reason. Very happy to see him get a
> fantastic reaction as well.
> 
> Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will elucidate 
> far more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was
> muddy, so you couldn't hear the treble at all, but this was an hour of 
> relentlessly dull dub techno with no variation or subtlety
> whatsoever, and a real shame because one of them (not mr Modell) was having 
> the time of his life behind the laptop. A shame he
> couldn't obviously hear what sh*te we were hearing.




Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Matthew Dickinson
Hello list

New person here. Been reading on and off for some time. My, you are a
lively bunch aren't you?

I don't know how much of an introduction is good form, but my name's
Matthew. I like techno. I DJ and stuff.

Anyway, just want to comment on the DeepChord/Echospace sound quality
thing. When they played here in Copenhagen last year the sound was
pretty muddy as well. And I think it was because they used Pioneer
DJM-600's to mix through. I hate that mixer. Sounds shite and crap
build quality as well.

>From what has been described they seem to have played pretty much the
same stuff. Sort of banging and not so much dub. I enjoyed the first
half. They dropped the Huckaby mix of Electromagnetic Dowsing which I
love. All in all pretty good but would have been nice with more dubby
tracks.

Best
Matthew

2008/4/28 Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> - Original Message - From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Cc: "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:08 PM
>
> Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric
>
>
>
>
> > I've actually seen a couple reputable DJs to play an anemic hour of their 
> > set before realizing the lows were killed at the mixer.
> >
>
> Ha! I accidentally did that for about five minutes of an Echospace tune (of 
> all things) during the last set that I played. It's true that you won't often 
> get a good feel for the bass levels out of monitors, but the monitoring on 
> the stage at Fabric is usually pretty full and clear.
>
>
>
>
> Tristan
> ===
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>


Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - 
From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


I've actually seen a couple reputable DJs to play an anemic hour of their 
set before realizing the lows were killed at the mixer.


Ha! I accidentally did that for about five minutes of an Echospace tune (of 
all things) during the last set that I played. It's true that you won't 
often get a good feel for the bass levels out of monitors, but the 
monitoring on the stage at Fabric is usually pretty full and clear.


Tristan
===
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http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 



Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - 
From: "theREALmxyzptlk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric



Personally, I see them as related, but different animals.
I saw Mr. Modell at DEMF years back and it was stellar.
The poor sound is one thing, but it doesn't lead me to turn away from the 
style. YMMV, of course. Off to work...



I think the BC-related tag fit a lot better with the early Deep chord 
releases than it does today. The new stuff has evolved in a different way.


Oh, and for whatever it's worht, I saw that set at DEMF ages ago as well, 
and this bore absolutely no resemblance. That was a very dubby set. I don't 
seem to recall that I liked it very much, for whatever that's worth. I seem 
to recall that it didn't evolve as much as I'd have liked, but at least it 
sounded like them, rather than something totally unrelated.


Tristan
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Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - 
From: "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP 
style electro that sounded razorsharp on the soundsystem..some new bits 
and classics, although Vox Automaton was a bit short for some reason. Very 
happy to see him get a fantastic reaction as well.


Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will elucidate 
far more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was muddy, so you 
couldn't hear the treble at all, but this was an hour of relentlessly dull 
dub techno with no variation or subtlety whatsoever, and a real shame 
because one of them (not mr Modell) was having the time of his life behind 
the laptop. A shame he couldn't obviously hear what sh*te we were hearing.




Yeah, I was severely disappointed. Going in, I was actually more excited 
about them than Convextion, who I'm always really excited about. I posted up 
some thoughts about his set yesterday (it was amazing), but my e-mail setups 
are totally hosed at present and it seems to have been lost in the ether 
somewhere. I'll try and re-send that when I get home. Anyway... I doubt the 
Echospace sound had anything to do with the sound guys at Fabric. They have 
tablet PCs with WiFi connections so they can stand anywhere on the 
dancefloor and make corrections. And beside that, Gerard's set sounded 
amazing, so it's nothing to do with the rig. I suppose it could have been a 
monitoring thing (Modell had headphones on for at least part of it) but 
there was a sound guy on the side of the stage, within ten feet of them who 
I even tried to talk to at one point who didn't seem to think there was 
anything he could do about it.


IMO what they are doing today has emerged as something distinctly different 
than the BC influences. In fact, I think it's reaching directly back in to 
the dub influences that inspired BC, and they're fleshing those ideas out in 
a way that is less purely "techno", or maybe less encumbered by a futurist 
impulse. They seem to be purely in to dub as a process or a technique, and 
the end result is better for it. I certainly think the "BC copyist" tag they 
are sometimes laboured with has been a poor fit in the last couple of years 
anyway.


What erked me to no end was that there was scarcely any dub in it, or at 
least whatever Rod Modell was doing was so overwhelmed by the pounding thud 
of the kick turned up to 12 that you couldn't hear it. And that kick was 
routinely "doubled up" on the eighth notes, to give you an idea of the way 
in which they changed their normal style. The dub was totally left behind, 
or somehow inaudible. When those guys are clearly booked on the strength of 
these successes I don't understand how they can turn up with a different 
sound, which would have been more at home beside Joris Voorn in the other 
room. I know American techno producers often carry the view that a European 
crowd is only interested in the chugeda chugeda Marco Carolla sounds of 
about seven years ago and I can only suspect it was that sort of 
misunderstanding of what will fly here that inspired this choice. I mean, it 
was just dreadfully dull in a way that sound problems alone couldn't really 
account for. And for whatever it's worth, I only recognized one or two bits 
of their tracks in the entire set, and they didn't get any kind of a 
treatment like you'd expect. I wouldn't even have called it 'dub techno' as 
you couldn't tell if there was any dub going on.


I hate to be so negative about this set, as I'm digging their releases today 
more than anyone's, but when people fail to live and die by their strengths 
it really pisses me off.


Tristan
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Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread theREALmxyzptlk

Personally, I see them as related, but different animals.
I saw Mr. Modell at DEMF years back and it was stellar.
The poor sound is one thing, but it doesn't lead me to turn away from 
the style. YMMV, of course. Off to work...



jeff





Imo, it's not so much BC mark II as much as 'BC, AD' [if you catch my
drift] with the emphasis more on 'dead' than 'domini'. The pair are so
obviously influenced by BC, you'd hope but they'd also learn about the
subtlety in almost subliminal changes of atmosphere which you get with
BC tracks and which keeps them sparkling for several minutes at a time.
So far [again, imo] they've singularly failed to. And if you fail in
subtlety, the faults of that style become glaringly obvious and it
simply doesn't work anymore.


Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread /0

weird.  i wonder if something was wrong with their monitors?

I've actually seen a couple reputable DJs to play an anemic hour of their 
set before realizing the lows were killed at the mixer.


maybe someone killed the highs and taped over the LED? :p

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Subject: Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


Really surprised at this because the sound guys at Fabric are very,  very 
good and the bass definition in that place is amazing and should  have 
suited them down to the ground, sounds like something went very  wrong.


m

On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Robert Taylor wrote:


May I echo the sentiments - G was as good as he always is, but  Echospace
were so so disappointing, considering what they're capable of - it  takes
some talent to sound so sh!t on that soundsytem!







RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Toby Frith

I guess that was probably the case. The EQ'ing was all over the shop. Shame as 
it sounded so crisp for Convextion, if just a little too loud sometimes.



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To: Robert Taylor
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On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:16, Robert Taylor wrote:

> I was pretty shocked, but all you heard was a distorted thud thud  
> thud,
> with all those lovely dubby chords almost completely lost in the mix.
> I don't know what they think they were doing cos they seemed to be
> loving it - pumping their fists like they were Fatboy Slim, or worst
> still, Peter Hook
>

Only thing I can think is that the DJ monitors had a better/correct  
feed than clubs PA, which isn't unheard of but I surprised someone  
didn't say something to them.

m


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Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Martin Dust


On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:16, Robert Taylor wrote:

I was pretty shocked, but all you heard was a distorted thud thud  
thud,

with all those lovely dubby chords almost completely lost in the mix.
I don't know what they think they were doing cos they seemed to be
loving it - pumping their fists like they were Fatboy Slim, or worst
still, Peter Hook



Only thing I can think is that the DJ monitors had a better/correct  
feed than clubs PA, which isn't unheard of but I surprised someone  
didn't say something to them.


m


RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I will refrain from telling T 'I told you so' [actually I mean Tristan,
not the other Mr T].

I had sort of guessed that it wouldn't work and said as much to Tristan
who was gobsmacked that I was amongst the fair number leaving the venue
after Convextion's solid performance.

Personally, I tend to feel Mr Hitchell's solo stuff a lot more deeply
than when it's him with Mr Modell. Plus, for the last few weeks, having
finally got round to digitizing the Deepchord mix of 'Miranda', I have
to say, I've been struggling to see what's good about it, in as much as
I tend to struggle to see what's so good about much Deepchord stuff.

Imo, it's not so much BC mark II as much as 'BC, AD' [if you catch my
drift] with the emphasis more on 'dead' than 'domini'. The pair are so
obviously influenced by BC, you'd hope but they'd also learn about the
subtlety in almost subliminal changes of atmosphere which you get with
BC tracks and which keeps them sparkling for several minutes at a time.
So far [again, imo] they've singularly failed to. And if you fail in
subtlety, the faults of that style become glaringly obvious and it
simply doesn't work anymore.



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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:55 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric



A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP
style electro that sounded razorsharp on the soundsystem..some new bits
and classics, although Vox Automaton was a bit short for some reason.
Very happy to see him get a fantastic reaction as well.

Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will
elucidate far more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was muddy,
so you couldn't hear the treble at all, but this was an hour of
relentlessly dull dub techno with no variation or subtlety whatsoever,
and a real shame because one of them (not mr Modell) was having the time
of his life behind the laptop. A shame he couldn't obviously hear what
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RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Robert Taylor
I was pretty shocked, but all you heard was a distorted thud thud thud,
with all those lovely dubby chords almost completely lost in the mix.
I don't know what they think they were doing cos they seemed to be
loving it - pumping their fists like they were Fatboy Slim, or worst
still, Peter Hook


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Really surprised at this because the sound guys at Fabric are very, very
good and the bass definition in that place is amazing and should have
suited them down to the ground, sounds like something went very wrong.

m

On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Robert Taylor wrote:

> May I echo the sentiments - G was as good as he always is, but 
> Echospace were so so disappointing, considering what they're capable 
> of - it takes some talent to sound so sh!t on that soundsytem!
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Re: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Martin Dust
Really surprised at this because the sound guys at Fabric are very,  
very good and the bass definition in that place is amazing and should  
have suited them down to the ground, sounds like something went very  
wrong.


m

On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Robert Taylor wrote:

May I echo the sentiments - G was as good as he always is, but  
Echospace
were so so disappointing, considering what they're capable of - it  
takes

some talent to sound so sh!t on that soundsytem!





RE: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Robert Taylor
May I echo the sentiments - G was as good as he always is, but Echospace
were so so disappointing, considering what they're capable of - it takes
some talent to sound so sh!t on that soundsytem! 


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric


A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP
style electro that sounded razorsharp on the soundsystem..some new bits
and classics, although Vox Automaton was a bit short for some reason.
Very happy to see him get a fantastic reaction as well.

Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will
elucidate far more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was muddy,
so you couldn't hear the treble at all, but this was an hour of
relentlessly dull dub techno with no variation or subtlety whatsoever,
and a real shame because one of them (not mr Modell) was having the time
of his life behind the laptop. A shame he couldn't obviously hear what
sh*te we were hearing. 



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(313) Convextion and Echospace @ Fabric

2008-04-28 Thread Toby Frith

A polarised affair at London's Fabric. Gerard was fantastic - mostly ERP style 
electro that sounded razorsharp on the soundsystem..some new bits and classics, 
although Vox Automaton was a bit short for some reason. Very happy to see him 
get a fantastic reaction as well.

Deepchord/Echospace was unmitigated sh*te. I'm sure Tristan will elucidate far 
more than I could, as he was fuming! The sound was muddy, so you couldn't hear 
the treble at all, but this was an hour of relentlessly dull dub techno with no 
variation or subtlety whatsoever, and a real shame because one of them (not mr 
Modell) was having the time of his life behind the laptop. A shame he couldn't 
obviously hear what sh*te we were hearing. 



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RE: (313) Convextion @ Fabric

2008-04-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Yes - a nice way to celebrate my birthday, even if it is in Fabric! 


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Playing live along with Deepchord at Fabric on Sat 26th April in Room 1.
Should be interesting!


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2008-04-01 Thread Toby Frith
Playing live along with Deepchord at Fabric on Sat 26th April in Room 1. Should 
be interesting!


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Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-14 Thread J.T.
thanks a lot for the nice comments Bill, and the plug Kent. 

The vinyl version of the album has probably been on beatport for about 4 months 
or so..

There is still a cd version of the album coming. It'll have a couple new 
tracks, and drop a few from the vinyl. tbr sept/oct


-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Jun 12, 2007 3:59 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com
>
>> subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
>> did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
>> whoomp, there it is!
>
>Thanks for posting this, Kent - I hadn't had a chance to listen to it yet
>at all, so having the samples via beatport/juno is great!
>
>On a quick listen to the samples, "equanimity" sounds just gorgeous,
>"solum ferrum" sounds like classic Maurizio (M6, anybody?), "Astrum" sound
>like classic Detroit stuff (DX bass, pitchbent synth leads, etc),
>"Premiata" wouldn't sound out of place next to anything on Carl Craig's
>"Landcruising", and "Frozen Surface" has me wondering how this would have
>sounded on any of the DEMF sound systems this year (I have a feeling it
>would have blown any of them up - fantastic!).
>
>Great production for sure - I'll have to figure out if I'm going to pick
>my faves based on the samples or try to get the whole thing.
>
>Great work, DL!
>
>bvl
>



RE: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-13 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>Great production for sure - I'll have to figure out if I'm going to
pick
my faves based on the samples or try to get the whole thing.

Great work, DL!

Bvl
***

Just get the whole thing man! You know that's what you really want to do
already! :)

Ken


Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread kent williams

I don't remember uploading any Bill Van Loo tracks, but there's plenty
of good listenin at chromedecay.org. There are some at cornwarning.com
of mine too, but I need to reorganize the site and expose a bunch of
stuff I uploaded and haven't linked to except on my livejournal and
whatnot.

Here's your hat btw.

On 6/12/07, Stoddard, Kamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oh yeah, I never did say out loud how much I liked those tracks you put
up awhile back (or maybe kent did? Can't remember). Well..ahem..they're
hot. Thanks. Getting my coat.

k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

> subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
> did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
> whoomp, there it is!

Thanks for posting this, Kent - I hadn't had a chance to listen to it
yet
at all, so having the samples via beatport/juno is great!

On a quick listen to the samples, "equanimity" sounds just gorgeous,
"solum ferrum" sounds like classic Maurizio (M6, anybody?), "Astrum"
sound
like classic Detroit stuff (DX bass, pitchbent synth leads, etc),
"Premiata" wouldn't sound out of place next to anything on Carl Craig's
"Landcruising", and "Frozen Surface" has me wondering how this would
have
sounded on any of the DEMF sound systems this year (I have a feeling it
would have blown any of them up - fantastic!).

Great production for sure - I'll have to figure out if I'm going to pick
my faves based on the samples or try to get the whole thing.

Great work, DL!

bvl



RE: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
Oh yeah, I never did say out loud how much I liked those tracks you put
up awhile back (or maybe kent did? Can't remember). Well..ahem..they're
hot. Thanks. Getting my coat.

k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

> subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
> did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
> whoomp, there it is!

Thanks for posting this, Kent - I hadn't had a chance to listen to it
yet
at all, so having the samples via beatport/juno is great!

On a quick listen to the samples, "equanimity" sounds just gorgeous,
"solum ferrum" sounds like classic Maurizio (M6, anybody?), "Astrum"
sound
like classic Detroit stuff (DX bass, pitchbent synth leads, etc),
"Premiata" wouldn't sound out of place next to anything on Carl Craig's
"Landcruising", and "Frozen Surface" has me wondering how this would
have
sounded on any of the DEMF sound systems this year (I have a feeling it
would have blown any of them up - fantastic!).

Great production for sure - I'll have to figure out if I'm going to pick
my faves based on the samples or try to get the whole thing.

Great work, DL!

bvl


RE: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
Don't cheat yourself kid. Get 'em all. I feel you on the basic channel
impressions, but I swear if you listen to the full trax loud and clear,
there's so much more movement and playfulness in ways you wouldn't
imagine (reverb dueling with the pans in a battle for your brains
anyone?). Trust. You'll hate yourself if you don't cop it and you hear
the one you didn't get out and loud (or in and loud for that matter). My
8 cents.

K
mwnb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

> subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
> did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
> whoomp, there it is!

Thanks for posting this, Kent - I hadn't had a chance to listen to it
yet
at all, so having the samples via beatport/juno is great!

On a quick listen to the samples, "equanimity" sounds just gorgeous,
"solum ferrum" sounds like classic Maurizio (M6, anybody?), "Astrum"
sound
like classic Detroit stuff (DX bass, pitchbent synth leads, etc),
"Premiata" wouldn't sound out of place next to anything on Carl Craig's
"Landcruising", and "Frozen Surface" has me wondering how this would
have
sounded on any of the DEMF sound systems this year (I have a feeling it
would have blown any of them up - fantastic!).

Great production for sure - I'll have to figure out if I'm going to pick
my faves based on the samples or try to get the whole thing.

Great work, DL!

bvl


Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread bvl
> subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
> did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
> whoomp, there it is!

Thanks for posting this, Kent - I hadn't had a chance to listen to it yet
at all, so having the samples via beatport/juno is great!

On a quick listen to the samples, "equanimity" sounds just gorgeous,
"solum ferrum" sounds like classic Maurizio (M6, anybody?), "Astrum" sound
like classic Detroit stuff (DX bass, pitchbent synth leads, etc),
"Premiata" wouldn't sound out of place next to anything on Carl Craig's
"Landcruising", and "Frozen Surface" has me wondering how this would have
sounded on any of the DEMF sound systems this year (I have a feeling it
would have blown any of them up - fantastic!).

Great production for sure - I'll have to figure out if I'm going to pick
my faves based on the samples or try to get the whole thing.

Great work, DL!

bvl



Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread Michael Pujos

kent williams a écrit :

subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
whoomp, there it is!

I'll be picking it up on junodownload as soon as my connection is back 
to normal dl rate!


Re: (313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread robin


On junodownload.com too.

The EP on AW sounds very nice indeed. Will be picking that up.

robin...



On 12 Jun 2007, at 19:41, kent williams wrote:


subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
whoomp, there it is!




(313) convextion album now on beatport.com

2007-06-12 Thread kent williams

subject line says it all.  If you didn't get the vinyl -- or if you
did and want to doubly compensate the fine folks at down low --
whoomp, there it is!


Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

For all u dutchies:

$tinkworx & Convection are playing in Eindhoven @ gaslab this  
thursday (No entrance fee) and on Friday they are playing in the  
Flexbar in Amsterdam together with All out K and Rednose District.


KJ



On 27-feb-2007, at 17:22, Carlos de Brito wrote:

well, i guess toby's drink of choice was propably "club  
mate" (seriously, that's the name of a popular "ice tea" at  
berghain/in berlin, with lots of caffeine: http://www.club-mate.de/ 
cws/php/site4.html).


otherwise how could toby made it to ame's set at 12? ;)

c*

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:12:42 +
Von: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Betreff: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


Smoothies, Ae Grey Tea and sparkling water with a twist of lemon -
nowt fancy...

m


On 27 Feb 2007, at 16:03, Odeluga, Ken wrote:


What choice "drinks" do you mean Martin?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:54
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

Depends on the DJ I reckon with this one, 5 hours of say, Stay Up
Forever washing machine techno is enough for a life time but in the
right hands and some choice "drinks" I reckon it would be just  
fine...


m


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Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Carlos de Brito
well, i guess toby's drink of choice was propably "club mate" (seriously, 
that's the name of a popular "ice tea" at berghain/in berlin, with lots of 
caffeine: http://www.club-mate.de/cws/php/site4.html).

otherwise how could toby made it to ame's set at 12? ;)

c*

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:12:42 +
Von: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Betreff: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

> Smoothies, Ae Grey Tea and sparkling water with a twist of lemon -  
> nowt fancy...
> 
> m
> 
> 
> On 27 Feb 2007, at 16:03, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
> 
> > What choice "drinks" do you mean Martin?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 27 February 2007 15:54
> > To: 313 List
> > Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain
> >
> > Depends on the DJ I reckon with this one, 5 hours of say, Stay Up
> > Forever washing machine techno is enough for a life time but in the
> > right hands and some choice "drinks" I reckon it would be just fine...
> >
> > m

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Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Martin Dust
Smoothies, Ae Grey Tea and sparkling water with a twist of lemon -  
nowt fancy...


m


On 27 Feb 2007, at 16:03, Odeluga, Ken wrote:


What choice "drinks" do you mean Martin?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:54
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

Depends on the DJ I reckon with this one, 5 hours of say, Stay Up
Forever washing machine techno is enough for a life time but in the
right hands and some choice "drinks" I reckon it would be just fine...

m




RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
What choice "drinks" do you mean Martin?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:54
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

Depends on the DJ I reckon with this one, 5 hours of say, Stay Up  
Forever washing machine techno is enough for a life time but in the  
right hands and some choice "drinks" I reckon it would be just fine...

m

On 27 Feb 2007, at 15:37, Robert Taylor wrote:

> I'd get well bored
>
>
> Rob Taylor
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> -Original Message-
> From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 February 2007 15:33
> To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain
>
> When you get to Berghain you'll realise why 5 hours of that stuff  
> makes
> sense!


RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Robert Taylor
Aye - I want what Toby evidently had :) 


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-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:47
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


I would too. The same type of music all night long bores the hell out of
me.

That's not to say dancing for five hours straight is a problem though :)

robin...

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Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Martin Dust
Depends on the DJ I reckon with this one, 5 hours of say, Stay Up  
Forever washing machine techno is enough for a life time but in the  
right hands and some choice "drinks" I reckon it would be just fine...


m

On 27 Feb 2007, at 15:37, Robert Taylor wrote:


I'd get well bored


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-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:33
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

When you get to Berghain you'll realise why 5 hours of that stuff  
makes

sense!




Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread robin


I would too. The same type of music all night long bores the hell out  
of me.


That's not to say dancing for five hours straight is a problem though :)

robin...

On 27 Feb 2007, at 15:37, Robert Taylor wrote:


I'd get well bored


RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Robert Taylor
I'd get well bored 


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-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:33
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

When you get to Berghain you'll realise why 5 hours of that stuff makes
sense!




-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:01
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


On 2/27/07, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of Relief-era Chicago
for 5 hours on a
> punishing system hit the spot.

5 hours of that kind of thing seems slightly excessive, but its
interesting that that is the kind of stuff he would play. it seems that
old chicago house is coming back, that silly "Berlin" issue of XLR8R had
all these berlin deejays talking about their most cherished records, a
bunch of them were prescription or relief type stuff.

tom


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RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Toby Frith
When you get to Berghain you'll realise why 5 hours of that stuff makes sense!




-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:01
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


On 2/27/07, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of Relief-era Chicago
for 5 hours on a
> punishing system hit the spot.

5 hours of that kind of thing seems slightly excessive, but its
interesting that that is the kind of stuff he would play. it seems
that old chicago house is coming back, that silly "Berlin" issue of
XLR8R had all these berlin deejays talking about their most cherished
records, a bunch of them were prescription or relief type stuff.

tom


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Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/27/07, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of Relief-era Chicago

for 5 hours on a

punishing system hit the spot.


5 hours of that kind of thing seems slightly excessive, but its
interesting that that is the kind of stuff he would play. it seems
that old chicago house is coming back, that silly "Berlin" issue of
XLR8R had all these berlin deejays talking about their most cherished
records, a bunch of them were prescription or relief type stuff.

tom


RE: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Toby Frith
Gerard  4 - 5
Marcel 5 - 10

-Original Message-
From: Nick Hardie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 February 2007 13:37
To: Toby Frith
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain


What times did Marcel and Gerard play at?

On 27/02/07, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I met up with Gerard and JT at Berlin's Berghain on Saturday. A fine set from 
> Gerard, composed mostly of material he played last year for us, but with a 
> couple of new tracks at the end. I think to be honest the cerebral nature of 
> his music was lost on some of the crowd. He perhaps might have been better 
> upstairs in Panorama Bar, but still, hearing his material on that rig was a 
> pleasure. Don Williams was on beforehand, but I thought he just churned out a 
> few Detroit classics. Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of 
> Relief-era Chicago for 5 hours on a punishing system hit the spot. Thankfully 
> the boring minimal in Panorama Bar was offset by Ame, who were a real 
> pleasure, smooth, textured house that was perfect. A great night!
>
>
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Re: (313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Nick Hardie

What times did Marcel and Gerard play at?

On 27/02/07, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I met up with Gerard and JT at Berlin's Berghain on Saturday. A fine set from 
Gerard, composed mostly of material he played last year for us, but with a 
couple of new tracks at the end. I think to be honest the cerebral nature of 
his music was lost on some of the crowd. He perhaps might have been better 
upstairs in Panorama Bar, but still, hearing his material on that rig was a 
pleasure. Don Williams was on beforehand, but I thought he just churned out a 
few Detroit classics. Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of 
Relief-era Chicago for 5 hours on a punishing system hit the spot. Thankfully 
the boring minimal in Panorama Bar was offset by Ame, who were a real pleasure, 
smooth, textured house that was perfect. A great night!



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(313) Convextion @ Berghain

2007-02-27 Thread Toby Frith
I met up with Gerard and JT at Berlin's Berghain on Saturday. A fine set from 
Gerard, composed mostly of material he played last year for us, but with a 
couple of new tracks at the end. I think to be honest the cerebral nature of 
his music was lost on some of the crowd. He perhaps might have been better 
upstairs in Panorama Bar, but still, hearing his material on that rig was a 
pleasure. Don Williams was on beforehand, but I thought he just churned out a 
few Detroit classics. Marcel Dettman was phenomenal - the right kind of 
Relief-era Chicago for 5 hours on a punishing system hit the spot. Thankfully 
the boring minimal in Panorama Bar was offset by Ame, who were a real pleasure, 
smooth, textured house that was perfect. A great night!



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Re: (313) Convextion - Miranda

2007-01-19 Thread jurren baars

J.T. wrote a couple of months ago (Oct 18, 2006)
regarding the rerelease of convextion - miranda:


If the matrix release doesn't go forward -- or perhaps before it goes 
forward -- there will be a re-release on down low with only the original 
track and a new track, mastered at d&m, just 300 copies or so. I kinda like 
this idea since tho it would be a re-release, the re-release would be even 
more rare, both old and new versions would be special..but we'll see what 
happens.



just dug this old mail up to ask a question.

will 'miranda' be rereleased through downlow or will it
only be rereleased through matrix? pre-orders on the
matrix rerelease are huge from wat i've heard, so i should
probably preorder it now. on the other hand i'd rather
not buy a 2x12" when i can get the same track on a 12"
especially when the 12" is a really good pressing.

jurren

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Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-21 Thread David Powers

I never saw this site before, but it looks promising. I'm thinking
about grabbing some of my fav Mr De electrobooty from there, it's
easier to download than to rip the records I already own. I'll buy
good digital versions of tracks even if I already own them. Especially
since both my 1200's are broken and sitting in the corner. I really
hope they might put some more UR classics for sale. It would be nice
if they could expand their selection...

~David

On 12/21/06, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Stewart Caig wrote:
> Whilst we are on the subject has anyone ever ordered anything from
> detroitdigitalvinyl.com? Ive just tried it for the first time and
> received no instructions on how to download anything and when I try and
> log on to the site it doesnt accept the password they gave me!
>

I've bought something off them. In the email you get with Ship to: and
Bill To: on it there is a link that says "download".

robin...



Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-21 Thread robin



Stewart Caig wrote:
Whilst we are on the subject has anyone ever ordered anything from 
detroitdigitalvinyl.com? Ive just tried it for the first time and 
received no instructions on how to download anything and when I try and 
log on to the site it doesnt accept the password they gave me!




I've bought something off them. In the email you get with Ship to: and 
Bill To: on it there is a link that says "download".


robin...


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Stewart Caig
Whilst we are on the subject has anyone ever ordered anything from 
detroitdigitalvinyl.com? Ive just tried it for the first time and received 
no instructions on how to download anything and when I try and log on to the 
site it doesnt accept the password they gave me!


Stu

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes



On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods.


you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

http://www.rockbox.org/

then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

tom





RE: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I tried Rockbox on my 2nd-gen mini (last before the nano) and it didn't
work. I am 'fick' (as we say here) though, so maybe it's just me.


-Original Message-
From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 December 2006 14:45
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

Yeah, iTunes' latest version has me about convinced to switch to  
Rockbox.

On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:35, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

> On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
>> also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
>> using iPods.
>
> you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:
>
> http://www.rockbox.org/
>
> then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.
>
> tom

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Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 12/20/06, Matt Kane's Brain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yeah, iTunes' latest version has me about convinced to switch to
Rockbox.


i actually used to really like itunes for ease of filing MP3s. but
then they got all nazi on the ability to take things off of ipods and
the like and it got really silly. i went rockbox and i dont regret it
at all.

to


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Yeah, iTunes' latest version has me about convinced to switch to  
Rockbox.


On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:35, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods.


you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

http://www.rockbox.org/

then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

tom


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Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 12/20/06, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods.


you dont have to run apple's OS if you have an ipod:

http://www.rockbox.org/

then you no longer need to use the poopy itunes.

tom


RE: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yep, DRM'S a negative looked at from some perspectives. But there are
also a lot of positives - and luckily a lot of people actually like
using iPods. Nor is this to decry other good downloading sites - like
Bleep.com - at all.

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 December 2006 13:53
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

iTunes is iPod-centric, and DRM-encumbered.  ITunes licensing
agreement for end users prohibits legal, legitimate uses of the
purchased music, and furthermore, Apple resevers the right to change
the license after the fact.

I don't mind if people buy iPods and use iTunes, but I have real
objections to the way they do business, especially when outfits like
Bleep.com exist.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread robin


I agree Kent, though in fairness iTunes could be a lot lot worse. The 
DRM (currently) is fairly light and can be sidestepped.


It's the 128k-ness that puts me off. I want 320kbps or full-fat wavs (in 
fact i'd much prefer the wav). For that reason, juno.co.uk or beatport 
are what I'd choose over iTMS.



robin...

kent williams wrote:

iTunes is iPod-centric, and DRM-encumbered.  ITunes licensing
agreement for end users prohibits legal, legitimate uses of the
purchased music, and furthermore, Apple resevers the right to change
the license after the fact.

I don't mind if people buy iPods and use iTunes, but I have real
objections to the way they do business, especially when outfits like
Bleep.com exist.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread kent williams

iTunes is iPod-centric, and DRM-encumbered.  ITunes licensing
agreement for end users prohibits legal, legitimate uses of the
purchased music, and furthermore, Apple resevers the right to change
the license after the fact.

I don't mind if people buy iPods and use iTunes, but I have real
objections to the way they do business, especially when outfits like
Bleep.com exist.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/


RE: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken


-Original Message-
From: Michael Pujos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 December 2006 18:51
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

J.T. a écrit :
> spam! but thought some people would like to know...
>
> http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096
>
>   
iTunes = no buy.   I hope it's available on other popular sites 
preferably in WAV format.
*

Hey each to their own, but I wouldn't knock iTunes so much myself.

For me iTunes = a reasonably fair, equitable arrangement for both artist and 
industry (no industry, no artist and vice versa, remember?) in which everybody 
who produces gets paid something as opposed to everybody who produces doing it 
for free - as in 'illegal downloads'.

Also, regarding the quality, whilst ITMS files are ostensibly in 128kbps 
format, in fact, with Apple's proprietary 'AAC/m4a' (version of mp3) in reality 
using an average bit-rate, '128' can often mean rates up to 256. (The info is 
all on the web). Also, with the iTunes 'Producers Package', original master 
files from which the consumer files are copied are at a very good resolution, 
again raising the final quality - as I say, if you geek-out enough you can find 
all this - but people often say ITMS songs 'sound better' than 128, and 
certainly a lot of the ones I have heard do.

(Clearly, I don't work for Apple, by the way! Just wanted to give a fair, 
balanced view.)

Ken 


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread Michael Pujos

J.T. a écrit :

spam! but thought some people would like to know...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096

  
iTunes = no buy.   I hope it's available on other popular sites 
preferably in WAV format.


Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread J.T.
yes, all major mp3 sites very soon...think iTunes just gets it first..

-Original Message-
>From: kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Dec 19, 2006 1:40 PM
>To: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes
>
>Which is great, but will it be on bleep.com or beatport.com  for those
>who haven't been assimilated by iPod yet?
>
>On 12/19/06, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> spam! but thought some people would like to know...
>>
>> http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096
>>



Re: (313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread kent williams

Which is great, but will it be on bleep.com or beatport.com  for those
who haven't been assimilated by iPod yet?

On 12/19/06, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

spam! but thought some people would like to know...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096



(313) Convextion album now on iTunes

2006-12-19 Thread J.T.
spam! but thought some people would like to know...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=208840096


RE: (313) convextion live question

2006-11-29 Thread Webmaster
What's even more amazing about Gerard's original Convextion and ERP
releases, such as those on Matrix or our old HardSync imprint, they were all
mainly produced with just a single digital keyboard and arranged on a first
generation digital desktop sequencer.  Percussion and all.  He basically
bought a synth and sequencer one day and disappeared for two weeks in his
garage apartment.  He wouldn't skate, hang out, return calls, nothing.  Then
out of nowhere he emerged with tracks that were mind blowing.  Zero to
unreal in under two weeks.

I'm in Atlanta now and can't comment on what he's using for production
today, but it wouldn't surprise me if he borrows greatly from his old bag of
tricks.

It's great to see his music picking up so much momentum lately.  He's
definitely on another level when it comes to constructing tracks, mad
respect for the guy.

dK

 

-Original Message-
From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:29 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion live question

yah,
that's what i thought.and that's why i asked the question in the first
place - the live set is definitely "hardware" sounding hence my
curiosity

hi ken ;)

- Original Message -
From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Damian Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Toby Frith" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: (313) convextion live question


We were there; we saw it with our own ears.

Naturally, software's not allowed to cross the threshold to his studio
though ... (mostly, I understand.)


-Original Message-----
From: Damian Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2006 21:31
To: Toby Frith
Cc: fab.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion live question

Toby Frith wrote:
> Ableton.

are you sure? nah, i don't believe that! it was far too gritty and
analog and gross (in a good way) for ableton. that set has actually
inspired me to build digitally triggered analog drum circuits...

-- 
Damian Stewart
+64 27 305 4107

f r e y
live music with machines
http://www.frey.co.nz
http://www.myspace.com/freyed






Re: (313) convextion live question

2006-11-29 Thread fab.

yah,
that's what i thought.and that's why i asked the question in the first 
place - the live set is definitely "hardware" sounding hence my 
curiosity


hi ken ;)

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To: "Damian Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Toby Frith" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: (313) convextion live question


We were there; we saw it with our own ears.

Naturally, software's not allowed to cross the threshold to his studio
though ... (mostly, I understand.)


-Original Message-
From: Damian Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2006 21:31
To: Toby Frith
Cc: fab.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion live question

Toby Frith wrote:

Ableton.


are you sure? nah, i don't believe that! it was far too gritty and
analog and gross (in a good way) for ableton. that set has actually
inspired me to build digitally triggered analog drum circuits...

--
Damian Stewart
+64 27 305 4107

f r e y
live music with machines
http://www.frey.co.nz
http://www.myspace.com/freyed



RE: (313) convextion live question

2006-11-29 Thread Odeluga, Ken
We were there; we saw it with our own ears.

Naturally, software's not allowed to cross the threshold to his studio
though ... (mostly, I understand.)


-Original Message-
From: Damian Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 November 2006 21:31
To: Toby Frith
Cc: fab.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) convextion live question

Toby Frith wrote:
> Ableton. 

are you sure? nah, i don't believe that! it was far too gritty and 
analog and gross (in a good way) for ableton. that set has actually 
inspired me to build digitally triggered analog drum circuits...

-- 
Damian Stewart
+64 27 305 4107

f r e y
live music with machines
http://www.frey.co.nz
http://www.myspace.com/freyed


Re: (313) convextion live question

2006-11-28 Thread Damian Stewart

Toby Frith wrote:
Ableton. 


are you sure? nah, i don't believe that! it was far too gritty and 
analog and gross (in a good way) for ableton. that set has actually 
inspired me to build digitally triggered analog drum circuits...


--
Damian Stewart
+64 27 305 4107

f r e y
live music with machines
http://www.frey.co.nz
http://www.myspace.com/freyed


Re: (313) convextion live question

2006-11-28 Thread fab.

thanks Tobes.


- Original Message - 
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To: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: (313) convextion live question


Ableton.



-Original Message-
From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2006 13:21
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) convextion live question


Hello,

a question for those that were there

what equipment was convextion using during his london live appearance?

btw, it's a frickin' great set, i have it permanently on my personal
stereo.;)

fab.

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RE: (313) convextion live question

2006-11-28 Thread Toby Frith
Ableton. 



-Original Message-
From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 November 2006 13:21
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) convextion live question


Hello,

a question for those that were there

what equipment was convextion using during his london live appearance?

btw, it's a frickin' great set, i have it permanently on my personal 
stereo.;)

fab.

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(313) convextion live question

2006-11-28 Thread fab.

Hello,

a question for those that were there

what equipment was convextion using during his london live appearance?

btw, it's a frickin' great set, i have it permanently on my personal 
stereo.;)


fab.

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Re: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Damian Stewart

Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

What blew me away was the phrase "wanted to change". Kinda freaks me
out. 


i love that about music, how it tells you what it wants; i suppose that's 
one way to tell the difference between good musicians and bad musicians, 
good musicians can hear what the music they're playing wants to do, and how 
to take it that way.


--
Damian Stewart
+64 27 305 4107

f r e y
live music with machines
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RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
What blew me away was the phrase "wanted to change". Kinda freaks me
out. She like's crunk more than anything, but sometimes, she says stuff
like that and reminds me that even though our tastes may differ, she's
really paying attention. And that "wants" thing makes me think she's
actually feeling it more than listening. Oh, well. I guess she's already
aced techno 101 (aka emotional connection to frequency modulations).
Sucks cause I wanted to be able to take credit for that one in like 4
years. I'd be all like, "what! Mn, before me you were just hearing
the tones mn. I taught you how to FL the beat. Without me you'd
be nothing!" 
There goes that. 

k

-Original Message-
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:57 AM
To: Stoddard, Kamal; Odeluga,Ken; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Convextion

>should keep going. She's 12 and pretty sharp. She was saying how all
the
>other songs on the album change and it seems like this one "wanted" to
>change, but it just ends. I thought it was an awesome observation, but
>then I kept listening and it does. Man! Now I goa hear this. 

hehe dang that is some keen observationing!
yeah it gets beats! and a really jacky bassline/sound mutates out of the
depths, more little dubby touches...turns into a pretty dancefloor track
somehow..
i'm pretty certain we'll be putting an edit of the track, with the
beats, on vinyl too... sometime around the time of the album...


RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread J.T.
>should keep going. She's 12 and pretty sharp. She was saying how all the
>other songs on the album change and it seems like this one "wanted" to
>change, but it just ends. I thought it was an awesome observation, but
>then I kept listening and it does. Man! Now I goa hear this. 

hehe dang that is some keen observationing!
yeah it gets beats! and a really jacky bassline/sound mutates out of the 
depths, more little dubby touches...turns into a pretty dancefloor track 
somehow..
i'm pretty certain we'll be putting an edit of the track, with the beats, on 
vinyl too... sometime around the time of the album...



RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
>(hint to those with the vinyl -- the beatless d2 track is actually
>excerpted from a 30 minute epic)

HAHA! I fxcking knew it!
Dude, that one's been one of the most played around my house at the
moment. I listened to it on Saturday morning with my daughter (who loves
ambient because it's pretty music) for like an hour straight (not easy
to do with vinyl). We were both saying that it keeps sounding like it
should keep going. She's 12 and pretty sharp. She was saying how all the
other songs on the album change and it seems like this one "wanted" to
change, but it just ends. I thought it was an awesome observation, but
then I kept listening and it does. Man! Now I goa hear this. 

And the Tristan technical study was dope! Nice to hear what we all
understand articulated so academically.

K
mwnb




RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Ckuf yes it is! Sorry! :-). Blame it on Monday morning
fuzzy-headedness...


-Original Message-
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 November 2006 15:39
To: Odeluga, Ken; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Convextion

>Well done to you, Minto and not forgetting Gerald! And wishing you all
>continued good fortune.

hehe it's "gerard" but thanks ken!

@ rob taylor ..there will be a cd but it won't be out until march of
2007 and will have a slightly different tracklist (hint to those with
the vinyl -- the beatless d2 track is actually excerpted from a 30
minute epic); in the meantime, the vinyl version of the album will be up
on iTunes, bleep, beatport etc in jan/feb 07


RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Robert Taylor
Cheers JT - I guess I'll have to wait til March then - if it's that
good, it'll be worth the wait 


Rob Taylor
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Sent: 20 November 2006 15:39
To: Odeluga,Ken; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Convextion

>Well done to you, Minto and not forgetting Gerald! And wishing you all 
>continued good fortune.

hehe it's "gerard" but thanks ken!

@ rob taylor ..there will be a cd but it won't be out until march of
2007 and will have a slightly different tracklist (hint to those with
the vinyl -- the beatless d2 track is actually excerpted from a 30
minute epic); in the meantime, the vinyl version of the album will be up
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RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread J.T.
>Well done to you, Minto and not forgetting Gerald! And wishing you all
>continued good fortune.

hehe it's "gerard" but thanks ken!

@ rob taylor ..there will be a cd but it won't be out until march of 2007 and 
will have a slightly different tracklist (hint to those with the vinyl -- the 
beatless d2 track is actually excerpted from a 30 minute epic); in the 
meantime, the vinyl version of the album will be up on iTunes, bleep, beatport 
etc in jan/feb 07



RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Robert Taylor
Well, I didn't understand most of that but you've convinced me - so, is
this available on CD?


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-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 November 2006 00:00
To: 'list 313'
Subject: (313) Convextion

As there will no doubt be at least 80 credible reviews of the 800 copies
of the Convextion album, I'll try not to focus so much on what makes
each track essential to the album (and it is an album proper) as what
makes Gerard Hanson so compelling to the core of the techno scene; what
makes him one of the few who can sell out an initial pressing before it
is released, even after a four-year hiatus under this guise. In my mind
that is the thing that's worth writing and reading about at this moment.
People don't need convincing to buy his music once they hear it, and
clips are available everywhere. But in a time when labels, distributors
and shops are closing left and right, why is it that one quiet and
genial fellow from Texas can attract so much attention when so many
artists and labels are struggling? In short, is this merit or hype? This
is what the unconvinced and unaware are asking themselves, and what I
hope to answer in words (however difficult that is).

It will have been said over and over that in Gerard's music there is
always a preoccupation with reverb. He uses delay much more than most
and tends to get away with it remarkably well. But to reduce his impact
on the techno world to his use of reverb Basic Channel style would be to
disregard everything else he is doing. Perhaps 10-20% of the final
result will have been basicchannelised in the aggregate, which will of
course appeal to fans of that sound, and most techno fans full-stop (and
this is of course not a criticism of him, given that he has been
fulfilling the prophecy of that sound since it generated). But lost in
this narrow reduction is the fact that he's still got a very normal (if
not exemplary) techno arrangement underneath, and often 2-3 times as
much going on at any given time, or just as much variance horizontally.
What is superlative is that he manages to do this without clutter,
incoherence or regrets about any part of an evolving track being
superior to the rest. In short, he succeeds. In my mind there are four
essential ingredients to this success that set him apart from his
peers: 

A) His arrangements are always ambitious. While there are some people
who succeed as well as he does at making their arrangements work, and
there are many people who try to do as much as he does, there are very
few who merge this ambition and execution as well as he does. 

B) While this may seem like a statement of the obvious, when his efforts
in total are added up, and everything can still be picked out so cleanly
in the mix, it is nothing short of a miracle. His production skills
can't be faulted, and the pressing of his new album at D+M will only
help to justly solidify this reputation. 

C) Synthesis is perhaps the most overlooked ingredient in what makes
Convextion what it is, and probably the one thing that distinguishes him
most from Basic Channel (to unfairly extend the comparison). In nearly
every track he is deploying sines, squares, pulses and saws in exactly
the right spots, and always tweaking their character throughout, as
though the arrangements require it, although 99.9% of producers and
listeners would be perfectly satisfied without these extra touches. None
of these sounds are essential, but we always know that if it weren't
these sounds, he'd make another equally compelling sound to take its
place, and it would work just as well in the mix overall. There aren't
many producers who can impart this comfort in sound design. It is always
extensive and almost always right.
This is expert synthesis.

D) The one thing that is probably overlooked even more than sound design
is composition, which is always impeccable. Given obvious skill in these
other areas, many producers would mail in the actual writing of music,
which is of course one of the most compelling ingredients in the appeal
of Convextion, if shrouded within his many other successes. The key is
that he is one of the few who have mastered this totality of making
techno, yet still continues to challenge us with the individual melodies
that get wrung through these other disciplines. This is probably the
most commendable facet of his genius. 
Put this all together and you have the techno record buyer's hysteria
we've seen in the last month of anticipation of this release. It has
been a long time coming. I really hope everyone gets a copy. It does not
disappoint.
This can only raise the bar for quality in techno - which is not to say
it's the best album evarrr, but in terms of ambition, imagination,
coherence and execution it's hard to see how it can't be one of them. I
don'

RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-20 Thread Odeluga, Ken
J.T. wrote:
>i hope people are not disappointed that we are going beyond our initial
claim of "limited to 500". 

Hey, J.T.,

No way man! :-). 

The more people who hear and own this LP the better, IMHO. 

With this release, the future of our music is bright - again - at last.

Well done to you, Minto and not forgetting Gerald! And wishing you all
continued good fortune.

Ken

(Who's yet to actually hear this record which everyone is raving about
but will this week, I hope - but then again, maybe I don't really need
to after reading Tristan's amazing essay! :)


Re: (313) Convextion

2006-11-19 Thread Martin Dust
i hope people are not disappointed that we are going beyond our initial 
claim of "limited to 500". it was never our intention to not >meet demand, 
500 was just all we could (not even) afford. now we are receiving lots of 
help from distribs to press more...so >hopefully most people who are 
actively after the album will be able to get ahold of a copy eventually.


The more people that get to hear this album the better JT IMHO, it's great 
that everyone is buzzing about it. Well done to everyone involved, one of 
the best releases in 2006...


m





Re: (313) Convextion

2006-11-19 Thread J.T.
thanks so much for that review Tristan. even if nobody else is as passionate 
about the album as you, your reaction alone is deeply gratifying and means a 
lot to us. very well written and thoughtful, you definitely hear it and 
appreciate it much the same way we do. minto & i love gerard personally, so 
we're more than a little biased, but we agree with everything you said...i'm 
afraid to even read it to gerard because he will get all bashful and 
self-conscious about making more music! i especially agree that, yes, he is a 
master of synthesis and composition..and the mood and intimate feeling in his 
music is the reflection of a sensitive and beautiful human being that is just 
gerard thru and thru, it's really personal, and that's something i value very 
very highly in electronic music. the album is a reflection of over 10 years of 
his work, a lot of experiences in those years...it's just a deep thing all 
around for us and we're real proud of it, regardless of whether its commercial 
presentation is hyped or heartfelt.

the cover has no deeper meaning other than it's pretty and techno, and pretty 
techno! our photog friend ryan guillot took it while he was in prague, yep.

martin is right, d+m is indeed just a mastering house, the record was pressed 
at rand. both places were unbelievably kind to us. we are/were broke as hell 
and could not even afford to do the initial 500 pressings...except that we got 
unbelievable breaks from both d+m and rand. the whole process of making the 
record was really special and would not have happened without the help of a lot 
of great friends, and real diehard supporters of dance music as an artform 
(beyond just a niche dj market or dance-hipster trendy coolness etc etc).

i hope people are not disappointed that we are going beyond our initial claim 
of "limited to 500". it was never our intention to not meet demand, 500 was 
just all we could (not even) afford. now we are receiving lots of help from 
distribs to press more...so hopefully most people who are actively after the 
album will be able to get ahold of a copy eventually.

blah blah zz right? but thanks everybody!
jt


-Original Message-
>From: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Nov 19, 2006 3:07 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'list 313' <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (313) Convextion
>
>> B) While this may seem like a statement of the obvious, when his efforts 
>> in
>> total are added up, and everything can still be picked out so cleanly in 
>> the
>> mix, it is nothing short of a miracle. His production skills can't be
>> faulted, and the pressing of his new album at D+M will only help to justly
>> solidify this reputation.
>
>Great post T, but D&M are a mastering house not a pressing plant or have I 
>got hold of the wrong end of the stick.
>
>m
>
>
>



Re: (313) Convextion

2006-11-19 Thread Martin Dust
B) While this may seem like a statement of the obvious, when his efforts 
in
total are added up, and everything can still be picked out so cleanly in 
the

mix, it is nothing short of a miracle. His production skills can't be
faulted, and the pressing of his new album at D+M will only help to justly
solidify this reputation.


Great post T, but D&M are a mastering house not a pressing plant or have I 
got hold of the wrong end of the stick.


m





Re: (313) Convextion

2006-11-19 Thread JSS

$250 already?
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=787518

golddigger indeed

someone should send the boys round

On 11/19/06, Mislav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The picture on the cover of the LP is of one of Prague's metro station.

Anybody have any idea if three is more to it than just interesting wall
design ??

Still waiting for my copy to arrive so can't comment but great email
Tristan. Ordered 2 copies and somehow feel I am not in minority here ;-)





-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:00 AM
To: 'list 313'
Subject: (313) Convextion

As there will no doubt be at least 80 credible reviews of the 800 copies of
the Convextion album, I'll try not to focus so much on what makes each track
essential to the album (and it is an album proper) as what makes Gerard
Hanson so compelling to the core of the techno scene; what makes him one of
the few who can sell out an initial pressing before it is released, even
after a four-year hiatus under this guise. In my mind that is the thing
that's worth writing and reading about at this moment. People don't need
convincing to buy his music once they hear it, and clips are available
everywhere. But in a time when labels, distributors and shops are closing
left and right, why is it that one quiet and genial fellow from Texas can
attract so much attention when so many artists and labels are struggling? In
short, is this merit or hype? This is what the unconvinced and unaware are
asking themselves, and what I hope to answer in words (however difficult
that is).

It will have been said over and over that in Gerard's music there is always
a preoccupation with reverb. He uses delay much more than most and tends to
get away with it remarkably well. But to reduce his impact on the techno
world to his use of reverb Basic Channel style would be to disregard
everything else he is doing. Perhaps 10-20% of the final result will have
been basicchannelised in the aggregate, which will of course appeal to fans
of that sound, and most techno fans full-stop (and this is of course not a
criticism of him, given that he has been fulfilling the prophecy of that
sound since it generated). But lost in this narrow reduction is the fact
that he's still got a very normal (if not exemplary) techno arrangement
underneath, and often 2-3 times as much going on at any given time, or just
as much variance horizontally. What is superlative is that he manages to do
this without clutter, incoherence or regrets about any part of an evolving
track being superior to the rest. In short, he succeeds. In my mind there
are four essential ingredients to this success that set him apart from his
peers:

A) His arrangements are always ambitious. While there are some people who
succeed as well as he does at making their arrangements work, and there are
many people who try to do as much as he does, there are very few who merge
this ambition and execution as well as he does.

B) While this may seem like a statement of the obvious, when his efforts in
total are added up, and everything can still be picked out so cleanly in the
mix, it is nothing short of a miracle. His production skills can't be
faulted, and the pressing of his new album at D+M will only help to justly
solidify this reputation.

C) Synthesis is perhaps the most overlooked ingredient in what makes
Convextion what it is, and probably the one thing that distinguishes him
most from Basic Channel (to unfairly extend the comparison). In nearly every
track he is deploying sines, squares, pulses and saws in exactly the right
spots, and always tweaking their character throughout, as though the
arrangements require it, although 99.9% of producers and listeners would be
perfectly satisfied without these extra touches. None of these sounds are
essential, but we always know that if it weren't these sounds, he'd make
another equally compelling sound to take its place, and it would work just
as well in the mix overall. There aren't many producers who can impart this
comfort in sound design. It is always extensive and almost always right.
This is expert synthesis.

D) The one thing that is probably overlooked even more than sound design is
composition, which is always impeccable. Given obvious skill in these other
areas, many producers would mail in the actual writing of music, which is of
course one of the most compelling ingredients in the appeal of Convextion,
if shrouded within his many other successes. The key is that he is one of
the few who have mastered this totality of making techno, yet still
continues to challenge us with the individual melodies that get wrung
through these other disciplines. This is probably the most commendable facet
of his genius.
Put this all together and you have the techno record buyer's hysteria we've
seen in the last month of anticipation of this release. It has be

RE: (313) Convextion

2006-11-19 Thread Mislav
The picture on the cover of the LP is of one of Prague's metro station. 

Anybody have any idea if three is more to it than just interesting wall
design ??

Still waiting for my copy to arrive so can't comment but great email
Tristan. Ordered 2 copies and somehow feel I am not in minority here ;-)





-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:00 AM
To: 'list 313'
Subject: (313) Convextion

As there will no doubt be at least 80 credible reviews of the 800 copies of
the Convextion album, I'll try not to focus so much on what makes each track
essential to the album (and it is an album proper) as what makes Gerard
Hanson so compelling to the core of the techno scene; what makes him one of
the few who can sell out an initial pressing before it is released, even
after a four-year hiatus under this guise. In my mind that is the thing
that's worth writing and reading about at this moment. People don't need
convincing to buy his music once they hear it, and clips are available
everywhere. But in a time when labels, distributors and shops are closing
left and right, why is it that one quiet and genial fellow from Texas can
attract so much attention when so many artists and labels are struggling? In
short, is this merit or hype? This is what the unconvinced and unaware are
asking themselves, and what I hope to answer in words (however difficult
that is).

It will have been said over and over that in Gerard's music there is always
a preoccupation with reverb. He uses delay much more than most and tends to
get away with it remarkably well. But to reduce his impact on the techno
world to his use of reverb Basic Channel style would be to disregard
everything else he is doing. Perhaps 10-20% of the final result will have
been basicchannelised in the aggregate, which will of course appeal to fans
of that sound, and most techno fans full-stop (and this is of course not a
criticism of him, given that he has been fulfilling the prophecy of that
sound since it generated). But lost in this narrow reduction is the fact
that he's still got a very normal (if not exemplary) techno arrangement
underneath, and often 2-3 times as much going on at any given time, or just
as much variance horizontally. What is superlative is that he manages to do
this without clutter, incoherence or regrets about any part of an evolving
track being superior to the rest. In short, he succeeds. In my mind there
are four essential ingredients to this success that set him apart from his
peers: 

A) His arrangements are always ambitious. While there are some people who
succeed as well as he does at making their arrangements work, and there are
many people who try to do as much as he does, there are very few who merge
this ambition and execution as well as he does. 

B) While this may seem like a statement of the obvious, when his efforts in
total are added up, and everything can still be picked out so cleanly in the
mix, it is nothing short of a miracle. His production skills can't be
faulted, and the pressing of his new album at D+M will only help to justly
solidify this reputation. 

C) Synthesis is perhaps the most overlooked ingredient in what makes
Convextion what it is, and probably the one thing that distinguishes him
most from Basic Channel (to unfairly extend the comparison). In nearly every
track he is deploying sines, squares, pulses and saws in exactly the right
spots, and always tweaking their character throughout, as though the
arrangements require it, although 99.9% of producers and listeners would be
perfectly satisfied without these extra touches. None of these sounds are
essential, but we always know that if it weren't these sounds, he'd make
another equally compelling sound to take its place, and it would work just
as well in the mix overall. There aren't many producers who can impart this
comfort in sound design. It is always extensive and almost always right.
This is expert synthesis.

D) The one thing that is probably overlooked even more than sound design is
composition, which is always impeccable. Given obvious skill in these other
areas, many producers would mail in the actual writing of music, which is of
course one of the most compelling ingredients in the appeal of Convextion,
if shrouded within his many other successes. The key is that he is one of
the few who have mastered this totality of making techno, yet still
continues to challenge us with the individual melodies that get wrung
through these other disciplines. This is probably the most commendable facet
of his genius. 
Put this all together and you have the techno record buyer's hysteria we've
seen in the last month of anticipation of this release. It has been a long
time coming. I really hope everyone gets a copy. It does not disappoint.
This can only raise the bar for quality in techno - which is not to say it's
the best a

(313) Convextion

2006-11-17 Thread Tristan Watkins
As there will no doubt be at least 80 credible reviews of the 800 copies of
the Convextion album, I'll try not to focus so much on what makes each track
essential to the album (and it is an album proper) as what makes Gerard
Hanson so compelling to the core of the techno scene; what makes him one of
the few who can sell out an initial pressing before it is released, even
after a four-year hiatus under this guise. In my mind that is the thing
that's worth writing and reading about at this moment. People don't need
convincing to buy his music once they hear it, and clips are available
everywhere. But in a time when labels, distributors and shops are closing
left and right, why is it that one quiet and genial fellow from Texas can
attract so much attention when so many artists and labels are struggling? In
short, is this merit or hype? This is what the unconvinced and unaware are
asking themselves, and what I hope to answer in words (however difficult
that is).

It will have been said over and over that in Gerard's music there is always
a preoccupation with reverb. He uses delay much more than most and tends to
get away with it remarkably well. But to reduce his impact on the techno
world to his use of reverb Basic Channel style would be to disregard
everything else he is doing. Perhaps 10-20% of the final result will have
been basicchannelised in the aggregate, which will of course appeal to fans
of that sound, and most techno fans full-stop (and this is of course not a
criticism of him, given that he has been fulfilling the prophecy of that
sound since it generated). But lost in this narrow reduction is the fact
that he's still got a very normal (if not exemplary) techno arrangement
underneath, and often 2-3 times as much going on at any given time, or just
as much variance horizontally. What is superlative is that he manages to do
this without clutter, incoherence or regrets about any part of an evolving
track being superior to the rest. In short, he succeeds. In my mind there
are four essential ingredients to this success that set him apart from his
peers: 

A) His arrangements are always ambitious. While there are some people who
succeed as well as he does at making their arrangements work, and there are
many people who try to do as much as he does, there are very few who merge
this ambition and execution as well as he does. 

B) While this may seem like a statement of the obvious, when his efforts in
total are added up, and everything can still be picked out so cleanly in the
mix, it is nothing short of a miracle. His production skills can't be
faulted, and the pressing of his new album at D+M will only help to justly
solidify this reputation. 

C) Synthesis is perhaps the most overlooked ingredient in what makes
Convextion what it is, and probably the one thing that distinguishes him
most from Basic Channel (to unfairly extend the comparison). In nearly every
track he is deploying sines, squares, pulses and saws in exactly the right
spots, and always tweaking their character throughout, as though the
arrangements require it, although 99.9% of producers and listeners would be
perfectly satisfied without these extra touches. None of these sounds are
essential, but we always know that if it weren't these sounds, he'd make
another equally compelling sound to take its place, and it would work just
as well in the mix overall. There aren't many producers who can impart this
comfort in sound design. It is always extensive and almost always right.
This is expert synthesis.

D) The one thing that is probably overlooked even more than sound design is
composition, which is always impeccable. Given obvious skill in these other
areas, many producers would mail in the actual writing of music, which is of
course one of the most compelling ingredients in the appeal of Convextion,
if shrouded within his many other successes. The key is that he is one of
the few who have mastered this totality of making techno, yet still
continues to challenge us with the individual melodies that get wrung
through these other disciplines. This is probably the most commendable facet
of his genius. 
Put this all together and you have the techno record buyer's hysteria we've
seen in the last month of anticipation of this release. It has been a long
time coming. I really hope everyone gets a copy. It does not disappoint.
This can only raise the bar for quality in techno - which is not to say it's
the best album evarrr, but in terms of ambition, imagination, coherence and
execution it's hard to see how it can't be one of them. I don't know if
those are the standards we should use to judge techno, but if they are, it's
certainly one of the top 10. Evarrr.

I can almost imagine people fighting for early slots at parties, in order to
guarantee that they can be the DJ who drops these tracks first. Surely this
is an hallucination, but it makes me think the album could be renamed "Music
to Make People Show Up Early", and not be wrong. I need to go 

Re: (313) convextion album

2006-11-14 Thread Michael Pujos

It's not the new convextion release on Down Low !
Can't wait for DL to put their catalogue for purchase online, plase!

Jacob Arnold a écrit :

To answer my own question, it's on Detroit Digital Vinyl:

http://www.detroitdigitalvinyl.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DL-MATRIX-001

  




RE: (313) convextion album

2006-11-14 Thread Jacob Arnold
To answer my own question, it's on Detroit Digital Vinyl:

http://www.detroitdigitalvinyl.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DL-MATRIX-001


Jacob Arnold wrote:
> Is the MP3 available to purchase somewhere?
>
> Cheers,
> Jacob
>
>>THE NEW CONVEXTION JOINT IS FACKING AMAZING!



RE: (313) convextion album

2006-11-08 Thread Jacob Arnold
Is the MP3 available to purchase somewhere?

Cheers,
Jacob

Minto George wrote:
> Awesome review Kamal! don't think a magazine review
> could have said it better. We didn't do a whole lot of
> promo just as we've not done in the past and we thank
> those for spreading the word on our chit and promoting
> it that way. We're all happy with the end result and
> Gerard thanks all for buying it and supporting the
> life of more of his music being released on his own
> VEXT imprint.
>
> minto
>
>>Alright. I guess this is as good a time as any to say
>>this.
>
>>THE NEW CONVEXTION JOINT IS FACKING AMAZING!

-- 
underground music reviews
http://www.gridface.com/
http://www.myspace.com/gridface


RE: (313) convextion album

2006-11-07 Thread Toby Frith
I got mine from J.T last night.

It's great! 



-Original Message-
From: Minto George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 November 2006 23:47
To: Stoddard, Kamal
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) convextion album


Awesome review Kamal! don't think a magazine review
could have said it better. We didn't do a whole lot of
promo just as we've not done in the past and we thank
those for spreading the word on our chit and promoting
it that way. We're all happy with the end result and
Gerard thanks all for buying it and supporting the
life of more of his music being released on his own
VEXT imprint.

minto

>Alright. I guess this is as good a time as any to say
>this. 

>THE NEW CONVEXTION JOINT IS FACKING AMAZING!

>Okay, aside from the fact that it sounds like the
>basic channel 
>template
>has been stuck in a hyper-evolutionary time folding
>chamber for like
>eons just becoming sentient and this popped out...

>...yeah, aside from that, this is some of the most
>detailed,
>fluctuating, pulse-waving, freaky ish out there. I
>kept laughing as I
>put on track after track and thought to myself,
"guess >dude doesn't 
>like
>hi hats and snares?" then only to realize a couple
>bowls later they 
>were
>perfectly there, just phased to Pluto and buried
>dp in the mix.
>Which brings me to the keyword here. Dep. Not
deep >like,
>"wow...man...that's deep..." or the afro-house people
>deep. I mean deep
>as in literally. There are sounds buried so deep in
>the sonic layering
>that (for the first time in a long time)I feel like a
>real aquanaut
>again going exploring for sounds and watching them
>shift all together 
>at
>times like a school of fish (alien pretty fish).
There >were a couple
>songs I didn't really stick with to the end...but I
>was still feeling
>them joints. I haven't even looked at the track
titles >so I can't give
>specifics on names yet. Just remember, it doesn't
take >much to get lost
>in there. Really lost. Not the show. Your
>mind...

>I also got the E>R>P> joint I missed awhile back.
>OMFG! I really still
>can't describe this one. It's beautiful and growls at
>your face. 

>The one thing I found disconcerting about both of
>these though was they
>were FAST. Like some of sheds's older stuff. Like at
>-8 it's just
>grooving. It doesn't detract from the songs at all
>just the mixability
>with some of my other stuff. Truth be told, I hope
Mr. >Vext never reads
>this as I'd hate to taint the process with thoughts
of >"mixability". 

>Oh yeah! and I got the custom hood-art on both sleeve
>pieces by senor
>sharkface JTizzletron which takes it from like
>collectible to heirloom
>status. One of the best vinyl purchases I've ever
>made. 
 
>And as a nod to the kids reaction thread: My boys
were >all over the
>electro Saturday morning. They were into the hard
fast >stuff. 
>Thrashing,
>throwing the couch pillows, and not even caring if I
>was looking. Just
>ballsout. Full on dancing with their mean
>faces(awesome). Then I went
>into some of the more straightup 4x4 dubby deep stuff
>and they started
>doing some weird ground dancing that almost went
>breakdancy but then
>they petered out and went for cinnamon toast. Next
>time I'm gonna get
>flix. Yall gone bug.

>K
>mwnb

 


down low music 
http://downlowmusic.org
UPCOMING '06
Convextion dLVEXTLP OUT NOV 16th
The Connection Machine "PIJN" dL013 TBA
dL SHOP LOWER LEVELS 
http://lowrlvlz.gemm.com

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RE: (313) convextion album

2006-11-06 Thread Minto George
Awesome review Kamal! don't think a magazine review
could have said it better. We didn't do a whole lot of
promo just as we've not done in the past and we thank
those for spreading the word on our chit and promoting
it that way. We're all happy with the end result and
Gerard thanks all for buying it and supporting the
life of more of his music being released on his own
VEXT imprint.

minto

>Alright. I guess this is as good a time as any to say
>this. 

>THE NEW CONVEXTION JOINT IS FACKING AMAZING!

>Okay, aside from the fact that it sounds like the
>basic channel 
>template
>has been stuck in a hyper-evolutionary time folding
>chamber for like
>eons just becoming sentient and this popped out...

>...yeah, aside from that, this is some of the most
>detailed,
>fluctuating, pulse-waving, freaky ish out there. I
>kept laughing as I
>put on track after track and thought to myself,
"guess >dude doesn't 
>like
>hi hats and snares?" then only to realize a couple
>bowls later they 
>were
>perfectly there, just phased to Pluto and buried
>dp in the mix.
>Which brings me to the keyword here. Dep. Not
deep >like,
>"wow...man...that's deep..." or the afro-house people
>deep. I mean deep
>as in literally. There are sounds buried so deep in
>the sonic layering
>that (for the first time in a long time)I feel like a
>real aquanaut
>again going exploring for sounds and watching them
>shift all together 
>at
>times like a school of fish (alien pretty fish).
There >were a couple
>songs I didn't really stick with to the end...but I
>was still feeling
>them joints. I haven't even looked at the track
titles >so I can't give
>specifics on names yet. Just remember, it doesn't
take >much to get lost
>in there. Really lost. Not the show. Your
>mind...

>I also got the E>R>P> joint I missed awhile back.
>OMFG! I really still
>can't describe this one. It's beautiful and growls at
>your face. 

>The one thing I found disconcerting about both of
>these though was they
>were FAST. Like some of sheds's older stuff. Like at
>-8 it's just
>grooving. It doesn't detract from the songs at all
>just the mixability
>with some of my other stuff. Truth be told, I hope
Mr. >Vext never reads
>this as I'd hate to taint the process with thoughts
of >"mixability". 

>Oh yeah! and I got the custom hood-art on both sleeve
>pieces by senor
>sharkface JTizzletron which takes it from like
>collectible to heirloom
>status. One of the best vinyl purchases I've ever
>made. 
 
>And as a nod to the kids reaction thread: My boys
were >all over the
>electro Saturday morning. They were into the hard
fast >stuff. 
>Thrashing,
>throwing the couch pillows, and not even caring if I
>was looking. Just
>ballsout. Full on dancing with their mean
>faces(awesome). Then I went
>into some of the more straightup 4x4 dubby deep stuff
>and they started
>doing some weird ground dancing that almost went
>breakdancy but then
>they petered out and went for cinnamon toast. Next
>time I'm gonna get
>flix. Yall gone bug.

>K
>mwnb

 


down low music 
http://downlowmusic.org
UPCOMING '06
Convextion dLVEXTLP OUT NOV 16th
The Connection Machine "PIJN" dL013 TBA
dL SHOP LOWER LEVELS 
http://lowrlvlz.gemm.com


RE: (313) convextion album

2006-11-06 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
Alright. I guess this is as good a time as any to say this. 

THE NEW CONVEXTION JOINT IS FACKING AMAZING!

Okay, aside from the fact that it sounds like the basic channel template
has been stuck in a hyper-evolutionary time folding chamber for like
eons just becoming sentient and this popped out...

...yeah, aside from that, this is some of the most detailed,
fluctuating, pulse-waving, freaky ish out there. I kept laughing as I
put on track after track and thought to myself, "guess dude doesn't like
hi hats and snares?" then only to realize a couple bowls later they were
perfectly there, just phased to Pluto and buried dp in the mix.
Which brings me to the keyword here. Dep. Not deep like,
"wow...man...that's deep..." or the afro-house people deep. I mean deep
as in literally. There are sounds buried so deep in the sonic layering
that (for the first time in a long time)I feel like a real aquanaut
again going exploring for sounds and watching them shift all together at
times like a school of fish (alien pretty fish). There were a couple
songs I didn't really stick with to the end...but I was still feeling
them joints. I haven't even looked at the track titles so I can't give
specifics on names yet. Just remember, it doesn't take much to get lost
in there. Really lost. Not the show. Your mind...

I also got the E>R>P> joint I missed awhile back. OMFG! I really still
can't describe this one. It's beautiful and growls at your face. 

The one thing I found disconcerting about both of these though was they
were FAST. Like some of sheds's older stuff. Like at -8 it's just
grooving. It doesn't detract from the songs at all just the mixability
with some of my other stuff. Truth be told, I hope Mr. Vext never reads
this as I'd hate to taint the process with thoughts of "mixability". 

Oh yeah! and I got the custom hood-art on both sleeve pieces by senor
sharkface JTizzletron which takes it from like collectible to heirloom
status. One of the best vinyl purchases I've ever made. 
 
And as a nod to the kids reaction thread: My boys were all over the
electro Saturday morning. They were into the hard fast stuff. Thrashing,
throwing the couch pillows, and not even caring if I was looking. Just
ballsout. Full on dancing with their mean faces(awesome). Then I went
into some of the more straightup 4x4 dubby deep stuff and they started
doing some weird ground dancing that almost went breakdancy but then
they petered out and went for cinnamon toast. Next time I'm gonna get
flix. Yall gone bug.

K
mwnb

 


Re: (313) convextion album

2006-11-06 Thread marsel


yeah, that pre-order was for the other rush hour distribution clients

but 'normal' customers can pre-order as well through www.rushhour.nl

pre order section

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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: FW: (313) convextion album


Cheers Jeff I'm down that London at the weekend.  Though by the sound of 
things they (1st or 2nd wave) won't be there by then.  But

I'm in Berlin the weekend after maybe they'll be in Hardwax..
But I've pre-ordered one from Rush Hour now so hopefully that should 
work - testimonials anyone???  Is this second lot of 300 a cert

JT?

n.p. ANTONELLI ELECTR :  A Ghost Should Care MINUENDO - off a shop's site. 
Sounds OK




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 November 2006 19:05

Not for sure, but try Smallfish if nothing else works..







FW: (313) convextion album

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheers Jeff I'm down that London at the weekend.  Though by the sound of things 
they (1st or 2nd wave) won't be there by then.  But
I'm in Berlin the weekend after maybe they'll be in Hardwax..
But I've pre-ordered one from Rush Hour now so hopefully that should work - 
testimonials anyone???  Is this second lot of 300 a cert
JT?

n.p. ANTONELLI ELECTR :  A Ghost Should Care MINUENDO - off a shop's site.  
Sounds OK


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 06 November 2006 19:05
> 
> Not for sure, but try Smallfish if nothing else works..



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