Re: 313 Digest 23 Jul 2023 15:28:20 -0000 Issue 4717

[Ed Thompson]

Claude wasn’t happy with that RA article…
I don’t have Instagram but Claude posted that that article was essentially an 
example of why he is getting out.
Its ALL bullshit….

> On 24 Jul 2023, at 1:28 am, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
> 
> 
> 313 Digest 23 Jul 2023 15:28:20 - Issue 4717
> 
> Topics (messages 107109 through 107109)
> 
> Claude Young retirement!?!
>   107109 by: kent williams
> 
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> 
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> 
> From: kent williams 
> Subject: Claude Young retirement!?!
> Date: 24 July 2023 at 1:27:38 am AEST
> To: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> 
> 
> https://ra.co/news/79327
> 
> The article says he intends to continue making music but I'm curious
> what form that will take.  I am forever in his debt for the DJ sets
> I've had the privilege to see live, the fantastic records he's made,
> and also for the kindness he's shown to me personally.
> 
> If anyone knows him well enough to communicate with him, maybe pass
> along some love from me (and I assume, most 313 list subscribers).
> 
> 
> 

Re: (313) Britney Spears techno? Not techno?

[cnd]

Seriously? And what's up with all the testosterone on this list. I mean 
Britney Spears is more techno than this.



As I say Denise, you personally - chauffeured round London anytime.

Dem young sconies.

C

On 2020-07-01 02:43, Denise Dalphond wrote:

It is nice. I didn’t send out the friend requests. All those people
found me. Many of them studied at Oxford University. I don’t know
what that’s about, although I am published through Oxford University
Press. About Detroit techno.

R U trying 2 say it’s very techno of me that I have all those
friends?

I’m not really inviting you, Mario, 2 “connect.” I don’t hang
out with ppl that is into rape culture. It’s to anyone on this list
who wants to read my shit. How many ppl R on this list? More than a
thousand? Maybe. That’s a lot of ppl that may be into what I write.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:35 PM Mario De Block 
wrote:


that's an amazing, even interstellar increase in fb 'friends' you
have, recently, as far as I know... Can one buy friends, on a way to
'global fame'?

Anyway: why should I connect/follow up so closely on someone who's
blocked me mailwise? I'm not cynical or lacking enough self-respect
for that, I think. I'm open for wise, healthy contacts that feel
safe and warm enough, and are mutually learnful and stimulating,
personally. Yet, I do browse sometimes. One may find interesting
stuff some time. The visit on Twitter was learnful on how you look
upon the 313 list and many of its members. I don't feel included in
all that.

M.

-

VAN: Denise Dalphond 
VERZONDEN: woensdag 1 juli 2020 3:20
AAN: Mario De Block ; 313@hyperreal.org
<313@hyperreal.org>
ONDERWERP: Re: What this list is and isn't about

Here's my IG: https://www.instagram.com/schoolcraftwax

And here's my FB: https://www.facebook.com/dalphond

I'm maxed out on FB friends, but everything is public. You don't
miss out on anything if we can't be friends.

I try to be a public educator on the internet.

DENISE DALPHOND, PH.D.

ETHNOMUSICOLOGIST
SCHOOLCRAFTWAX.WORK

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:11 PM Mario De Block 
wrote:

don't try to tell me having problems here, then - it's you yourself
having blocked me, with no reasoning. Especially not after my second
mail. I didn't invite you on talking about rape culture. I only
indicated it was an unjust suggestive point you tried to make.

By the way, I nuanced what you didn't yourself. You tweeted, for
instance:

the 313 listserv is a place where racists & sexists thrive.

the 313 Detroit techno listserv is a place where whitesplaining is
the name of the game. & if you don't whitesplain & don't support the
whitesplainers full tilt, you're villainous.

techno and toxic whiteness are BFF. boyfriends 4ever.

the 313 listserv is a place where mostly elderly white men will tell
you who to listen to and who to like and what to think about it.

on the 313 Detroit techno listserv, i'm accused, by kent williams,
the elderly white man moderator, of making the list a shadow of what
it used 2B. it's been dead [Skull] 4 years. boring AF. it's a shadow
of its own death.

I mean... The 313 list might better be (passively or actively)
supported by its members, instead of openly accused of such
behaviour, right?

What do the other members think of this?

I'm quite sure that anyone who's able to communicate constructively
or at least neutrally in an interpersonal sense (which is simply due
as long as anyone doesn't cross lines with someone else), is welcome
here. Of whatever nationality, age, being a he/she/they, and with
any possible skin colour or religion. As long as the love for
Detroit and its culture is a structural link.
And whoever crosses lines in whatever sense to anyone, should be
able (or brave enough) to be confronted with that, get into a
righteous exchange, and take any eventual apt message, to get
straight with facts and people. They
should not be blocked or unsubbed necessarily, but anyone in such
interaction should be or feel invited to get into fair overthinking
and conclusion, based on healthy exchange - with anyone being free
of personal conclusion, but not free of interpersonal respect.
Unless anything bad will take over and gets installed. A forum only
exists by grace of anyone's constructive behaviour.

This, at least, is my way of looking upon this.

Mario

-

VAN: Denise Dalphond 
VERZONDEN: woensdag 1 juli 2020 2:37
AAN: Mario De Block 
CC: Kevin Kennedy ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
ONDERWERP: Re: FW: What this list is and isn't about

All my internet is public cause I’m tryin to get globally famous.
Tell your friends. I don’t need to talk to you about rape culture,
bro. I need to be able to talk about music in a safe environment,
which this ain’t. I’m thankful for social networks.

Read on.

 --
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work [1]

Links:
--
[1] http://schoolcraftwax.work

Re: 313 themed mixes from 9 years ago

[Andrew Duke]

Looking forward to checking these out, Kent.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 3:47 PM kent williams  I used to actually go to the radio station and mix on-air.
>
> I stopped for a number of reasons -- time constraint, spending money on
> new music and not getting any financial reward, the idea that no one
> listens to the radio any more -- but I was really good about archiving my
> mixes, and this one is just full of Detroit ish.  Including a couple of my
> mashups -- (Terrence Parker/Joe Smooth, Rhythim is Rhythim/Octave One)...
>
>
> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/04/12/krui-noise-radio-chaircrusher-dj-mixes/
>

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

[Jason Brunton]

I know Bob, he’s working at Black Corporation with Roman on the Dekard’s Dream 
project

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Oct 2018, at 20:33, Arturo Lopez  wrote:
> 
> is Bob Rogue still on here? He's been in Tokyo for like 15 years now.  You 
> might know him from that super fancy "Deckard's Dream" polysynth that was out 
> last year. Great guy. 
> 
> -Arturo
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:23 PM <313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 - Issue 4415
>> 
>> Topics (messages 105739 through 105739)
>> 
>> Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
>> 105739 by: Patrick Wacher
>> 
>> Administrivia:
>> 
>> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>> 313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
>> 
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>> 313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
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>> 313@hyperreal.org
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Patrick Wacher 
>> To: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:23:25 -0700
>> Subject: Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
>> Heading to Tokyo for a week on Thursday and wanted to check if there is 
>> anyone from Tokyo on the list?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Patrick. 

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

[edward thompson]

http://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2018/7/8/portals-stories-from-tokyo 



> On 16 Oct 2018, at 12:28 am, Patrick Wacher  wrote:
> 
> Bah! Now you have ruined me! ;)
> 
> It’s been 15 years since I was last at Technique and Disc Union, looking 
> forward to getting back in there and destroying my credit card. 
> 
> Sadly I’ll be missing a show by Mike & Jeff by 2 days :|. 
> 
> P. 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:35 AM edward thompson  > wrote:
> http://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2018/7/6/digging-in-japan-ten-of-tokyos-best-record-stores
>  
> 
> 
>> On 15 Oct 2018, at 2:21 pm, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 - Issue 4415
>> 
>> Topics (messages 105739 through 105739)
>> 
>> Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
>>  105739 by: Patrick Wacher
>> 
>> Administrivia:
>> 
>> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>>  313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org 
>> 
>> 
>> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>>  313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org 
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>> 
>> To post to the list, e-mail:
>>  313@hyperreal.org 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> From: Patrick Wacher mailto:pwac...@gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
>> Date: 15 October 2018 at 2:23:25 pm AEDT
>> To: "313@hyperreal.org " <313@hyperreal.org 
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> Heading to Tokyo for a week on Thursday and wanted to check if there is 
>> anyone from Tokyo on the list?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Patrick. 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: 313 and plug

[Arturo Lopez]

Aww man, didn't know you all were going to web cast, Thomas didn't push
that out on his facebook. Hope ya'll had a good party and set, though!
-Arturo

Re: 313 and plug

[jwan allen]

Looking to cop that new Patrice from  threads tomorrow prior to our
departure.

We (thomas cox former list rabble rouser) and myself will be behind the
decks at motor city wine this evening from 11-2.

Also we'll be sitting in at the bassment web broadcast in a little bit.
Detroit promo tv dot com. Underground 313 dot

Back to lurking.:)

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 4:24 AM Lerato Khathi <
booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote:

> patrice keeps on dropping hit after hit
> here is a remix he did for uzuri this year as well
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp-cS58WGE4
>
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 12:32, the Beauty and Belief Society <
> thequietoverh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is afrofutrusim and what does it mean to you?
>>
>> Aqua boogie it oout.
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2018 5:24 AM, "Tristan Watkins"  wrote:
>>
>> Challenge accepted!
>>
>> Although my finger is certainly not on the pulse anymore, I have been
>> enjoying the steady drip-feed of Work In Progress videos on Reggie Dokes'
>> Instagram. Some amazing tunes to come by the sound of it.
>>
>> He also shared some of the new Patrice Scott on Sistrum yesterday, which
>> sounds immense.
>> https://www.instagram.com/reggiedokes/p/BpAXI5gnF4d/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet=1nelobcbduki4
>>
>>
>> *waves*
>>
>>
>> Tristan
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Lerato Khathi
> http://uzurirecordings.com
> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
> Skype : Lakuti
>

Re: 313

[Lerato Khathi]

patrice keeps on dropping hit after hit
here is a remix he did for uzuri this year as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp-cS58WGE4

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 12:32, the Beauty and Belief Society <
thequietoverh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is afrofutrusim and what does it mean to you?
>
> Aqua boogie it oout.
>
> On Oct 20, 2018 5:24 AM, "Tristan Watkins"  wrote:
>
> Challenge accepted!
>
> Although my finger is certainly not on the pulse anymore, I have been
> enjoying the steady drip-feed of Work In Progress videos on Reggie Dokes'
> Instagram. Some amazing tunes to come by the sound of it.
>
> He also shared some of the new Patrice Scott on Sistrum yesterday, which
> sounds immense.
> https://www.instagram.com/reggiedokes/p/BpAXI5gnF4d/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet=1nelobcbduki4
>
>
> *waves*
>
>
> Tristan
>
>
>

-- 

Lerato Khathi
http://uzurirecordings.com
http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
Skype : Lakuti

Re: 313

[the Beauty and Belief Society]

What is afrofutrusim and what does it mean to you?

Aqua boogie it oout.

On Oct 20, 2018 5:24 AM, "Tristan Watkins"  wrote:

Challenge accepted!

Although my finger is certainly not on the pulse anymore, I have been
enjoying the steady drip-feed of Work In Progress videos on Reggie Dokes'
Instagram. Some amazing tunes to come by the sound of it.

He also shared some of the new Patrice Scott on Sistrum yesterday, which
sounds immense.
https://www.instagram.com/reggiedokes/p/BpAXI5gnF4d/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet=1nelobcbduki4


*waves*


Tristan

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

[Arturo Lopez]

is Bob Rogue still on here? He's been in Tokyo for like 15 years now.  You
might know him from that super fancy "Deckard's Dream" polysynth that was
out last year. Great guy.

-Arturo

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:23 PM <313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org> wrote:

>
> 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 - Issue 4415
>
> Topics (messages 105739 through 105739)
>
> Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
> 105739 by: Patrick Wacher
>
> Administrivia:
>
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
> 313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
>
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
> 313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
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> 313@hyperreal.org
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Patrick Wacher 
> To: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:23:25 -0700
> Subject: Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
> Heading to Tokyo for a week on Thursday and wanted to check if there is
> anyone from Tokyo on the list?
>
> Thx,
> Patrick.
>

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

[Patrick Wacher]

Bah! Now you have ruined me! ;)

It’s been 15 years since I was last at Technique and Disc Union, looking
forward to getting back in there and destroying my credit card.

Sadly I’ll be missing a show by Mike & Jeff by 2 days :|.

P.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:35 AM edward thompson 
wrote:

>
> http://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2018/7/6/digging-in-japan-ten-of-tokyos-best-record-stores
>
> On 15 Oct 2018, at 2:21 pm, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
>
>
> 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 - Issue 4415
>
> Topics (messages 105739 through 105739)
>
> Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
> 105739 by: Patrick Wacher
>
> Administrivia:
>
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
> 313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
>
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
> 313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
>
> To post to the list, e-mail:
> 313@hyperreal.org
>
>
> --
>
>
> *From: *Patrick Wacher 
> *Subject: **Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?*
> *Date: *15 October 2018 at 2:23:25 pm AEDT
> *To: *"313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
> Heading to Tokyo for a week on Thursday and wanted to check if there is
> anyone from Tokyo on the list?
>
> Thx,
> Patrick.
>
>
>
>

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

[Jeff Davis]

Thanks for sharing, great article that really made me miss Tokyo.  Basic
Channel Radiance for 540 yen? Unheard of!!

thanks,

*Jeffrey J Davis*

j...@jeffreyjdavis.com

www.jeffreyjdavis.com

218.833.2847



 






On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:35 AM, edward thompson 
wrote:

> http://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2018/7/6/digging-in-
> japan-ten-of-tokyos-best-record-stores
>
> On 15 Oct 2018, at 2:21 pm, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
>
>
> 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 - Issue 4415
>
> Topics (messages 105739 through 105739)
>
> Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
> 105739 by: Patrick Wacher
>
> Administrivia:
>
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
> 313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
>
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
> 313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
>
> To post to the list, e-mail:
> 313@hyperreal.org
>
>
> --
>
>
> *From: *Patrick Wacher 
> *Subject: **Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?*
> *Date: *15 October 2018 at 2:23:25 pm AEDT
> *To: *"313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
> Heading to Tokyo for a week on Thursday and wanted to check if there is
> anyone from Tokyo on the list?
>
> Thx,
> Patrick.
>
>
>
>

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

[edward thompson]

http://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2018/7/6/digging-in-japan-ten-of-tokyos-best-record-stores
 


> On 15 Oct 2018, at 2:21 pm, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
> 
> 
> 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 - Issue 4415
> 
> Topics (messages 105739 through 105739)
> 
> Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
>   105739 by: Patrick Wacher
> 
> Administrivia:
> 
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To post to the list, e-mail:
>   313@hyperreal.org
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> From: Patrick Wacher 
> Subject: Any 313’ers from Tokyo on the list?
> Date: 15 October 2018 at 2:23:25 pm AEDT
> To: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> 
> 
> Heading to Tokyo for a week on Thursday and wanted to check if there is 
> anyone from Tokyo on the list?
> 
> Thx,
> Patrick. 
> 
> 

Re: 313 music in the oddest of places.

[Mister Jones]

Don't forget Streets of Rage 3! That whole soundtrack sounds like UR,
Mills, and The Advent sat in the studio and tried to see who could "out
hard" one another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9fNkGMuwS4

On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Brian Prince  wrote:

> Yo Logic7, good to hear from you again.
>
>
>
> Nice find! Yeah, a lot of the Japanese game composers in the early 90’s
> were listening to records from Detroit and Chicago. Another great example
> is the Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack from 1992 by Yuzo Kishiro:
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/_62PVfghXtc
>
>
>
> (I dubbed the whole soundtrack from that game to tape so I could listen to
> it on my Walkman on the school bus)
>
>
>
> Hearing that stuff when I was 12 and 13 primed me for the Tresor
> compilations I started picking up when I was 14 and 15.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Brian Prince
>
> brianprince.bandcamp.com
>
> bprince.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Mister Jones 
> *Sent: *Friday, December 15, 2017 11:22 PM
> *To: *313@hyperreal.org
> *Subject: *313 music in the oddest of places.
>
>
>
> Hey y'all... it's the member formerly known as Logic7
>
>
> I've been on an old video game kick, particularly old vertical shooters
> like Twin Cobra, Raiden, and the many bullet hell shooters from companies
> like Cave. While getting my fix I ran across a game called Battle Garegga
> by Raizing/Eighting. I'm playing for the first time a couple of nights ago
> in all of it's early bullet hell goodness when I get through the first
> level. The second level starts and the music changes and a melody of of
> stab chords starts playing... And I recognize it almost immediately. I
> played for less than a minute more and had to figure this out 'cause it
> sounded like a direct rip of something I've heard before. I paused MAME and
> hit Youtube for old Mills and UR, and I find the track: Jupiter Jazz by
> Underground Resistance.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk
>
> More Google-fu turns up the music from Battle Garegga; a double-CD
> composed by Manabu Namiki, released last December. Among the track listing
> was the name of the track for the second level of the game: Underwater
> Rampart (an obvious nod to UR)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA
>
> ^^^ That's the original version from the arcade game. The game wold be
> released for the Sega Saturn with a re-recorded version with different
> instruments instead of the Yamaha YM2151 4-op, 8 part FM chip used in the
> arcade game's system board (as well as the Yamaha DX100). With the
> composer's name, I ran across an interview with him where he states this:
>
> http://squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/manabunamiki.shtml
>
> "... I held a great admiration for techno music, and I had a good deal of
> respect for the Detroit techno artists in particular: Derrick May,
> Underground Resistance, and Carl Craig. The main programmer of *Battle
> Garegga* was also a fan of their music. Inspired by their music, I almost
> felt that I had something of a mission to take that energy and breathe life
> into the game's music.
>
> *Battle Garegga* used FM synth and ADPCM synth for its hardware. This
> equipment was obsolete compared to the standards of other arcade games in
> 1995, so I needed to make full use of it to design the sound for this
> radical new shooting game. I made use of all the skill I had accumulated
> with this hardware at NMK, and I also studied Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of FM
> synth carefully.
>
> The sound of *Battle Garegga* was influenced by my friends at Raizing, by
> Detroit techno, by *Summer Carnival '92 Recca*, by FM and ADPCM (YM2151
> and MSM6295), and by the game music of Hitoshi Sakimoto and Shinji Hosoe,
> all of these people and things I respect..."
>
> Since he's also done music for Cave (creators of my favorite bullet hell
> shooters), I'm now on a mission to find anything else he's slipped into his
> games that have a very Detroit-inspired sound.
>
>
>

Re: 313 music in the oddest of places.

[Juho Hietala]

Speaking of which the game music vinyl stuff has been on a surgency. SoR 1 
through 3 are out through Data Discs: https://data-discs.com/ 






> On 17 Dec 2017, at 06:43, Brian Prince  wrote:
> 
> Yo Logic7, good to hear from you again.
>  
> Nice find! Yeah, a lot of the Japanese game composers in the early 90’s were 
> listening to records from Detroit and Chicago. Another great example is the 
> Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack from 1992 by Yuzo Kishiro:
>  
> https://youtu.be/_62PVfghXtc 
>  
> (I dubbed the whole soundtrack from that game to tape so I could listen to it 
> on my Walkman on the school bus)
>  
> Hearing that stuff when I was 12 and 13 primed me for the Tresor compilations 
> I started picking up when I was 14 and 15.
>  
> ---
> Brian Prince
> brianprince.bandcamp.com 
> bprince.com 
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
> From: Mister Jones 
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org 
> Subject: 313 music in the oddest of places.
>  
> Hey y'all... it's the member formerly known as Logic7
> 
> I've been on an old video game kick, particularly old vertical shooters like 
> Twin Cobra, Raiden, and the many bullet hell shooters from companies like 
> Cave. While getting my fix I ran across a game called Battle Garegga by 
> Raizing/Eighting. I'm playing for the first time a couple of nights ago in 
> all of it's early bullet hell goodness when I get through the first level. 
> The second level starts and the music changes and a melody of of stab chords 
> starts playing... And I recognize it almost immediately. I played for less 
> than a minute more and had to figure this out 'cause it sounded like a direct 
> rip of something I've heard before. I paused MAME and hit Youtube for old 
> Mills and UR, and I find the track: Jupiter Jazz by Underground Resistance.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk 
> 
> More Google-fu turns up the music from Battle Garegga; a double-CD composed 
> by Manabu Namiki, released last December. Among the track listing was the 
> name of the track for the second level of the game: Underwater Rampart (an 
> obvious nod to UR)
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA 
> 
> ^^^ That's the original version from the arcade game. The game wold be 
> released for the Sega Saturn with a re-recorded version with different 
> instruments instead of the Yamaha YM2151 4-op, 8 part FM chip used in the 
> arcade game's system board (as well as the Yamaha DX100). With the composer's 
> name, I ran across an interview with him where he states this:
> 
> http://squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/manabunamiki.shtml 
> 
> 
> "... I held a great admiration for techno music, and I had a good deal of 
> respect for the Detroit techno artists in particular: Derrick May, 
> Underground Resistance, and Carl Craig. The main programmer of Battle Garegga 
> was also a fan of their music. Inspired by their music, I almost felt that I 
> had something of a mission to take that energy and breathe life into the 
> game's music. 
> Battle Garegga used FM synth and ADPCM synth for its hardware. This equipment 
> was obsolete compared to the standards of other arcade games in 1995, so I 
> needed to make full use of it to design the sound for this radical new 
> shooting game. I made use of all the skill I had accumulated with this 
> hardware at NMK, and I also studied Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of FM synth 
> carefully.
> 
> The sound of Battle Garegga was influenced by my friends at Raizing, by 
> Detroit techno, by Summer Carnival '92 Recca, by FM and ADPCM (YM2151 and 
> MSM6295), and by the game music of Hitoshi Sakimoto and Shinji Hosoe, all of 
> these people and things I respect..."
> 
> Since he's also done music for Cave (creators of my favorite bullet hell 
> shooters), I'm now on a mission to find anything else he's slipped into his 
> games that have a very Detroit-inspired sound.
> 

Re: 313 music in the oddest of places.

[Matthew Kane]

I LOVE shmups; I am downloading MAME right now to experience this in full.

On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Mister Jones  wrote:
> Hey y'all... it's the member formerly known as Logic7
>
> I've been on an old video game kick, particularly old vertical shooters like
> Twin Cobra, Raiden, and the many bullet hell shooters from companies like
> Cave. While getting my fix I ran across a game called Battle Garegga by
> Raizing/Eighting. I'm playing for the first time a couple of nights ago in
> all of it's early bullet hell goodness when I get through the first level.
> The second level starts and the music changes and a melody of of stab chords
> starts playing... And I recognize it almost immediately. I played for less
> than a minute more and had to figure this out 'cause it sounded like a
> direct rip of something I've heard before. I paused MAME and hit Youtube for
> old Mills and UR, and I find the track: Jupiter Jazz by Underground
> Resistance.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk
>
> More Google-fu turns up the music from Battle Garegga; a double-CD composed
> by Manabu Namiki, released last December. Among the track listing was the
> name of the track for the second level of the game: Underwater Rampart (an
> obvious nod to UR)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA
>
> ^^^ That's the original version from the arcade game. The game wold be
> released for the Sega Saturn with a re-recorded version with different
> instruments instead of the Yamaha YM2151 4-op, 8 part FM chip used in the
> arcade game's system board (as well as the Yamaha DX100). With the
> composer's name, I ran across an interview with him where he states this:
>
> http://squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/manabunamiki.shtml
>
> "... I held a great admiration for techno music, and I had a good deal of
> respect for the Detroit techno artists in particular: Derrick May,
> Underground Resistance, and Carl Craig. The main programmer of Battle
> Garegga was also a fan of their music. Inspired by their music, I almost
> felt that I had something of a mission to take that energy and breathe life
> into the game's music.
>
> Battle Garegga used FM synth and ADPCM synth for its hardware. This
> equipment was obsolete compared to the standards of other arcade games in
> 1995, so I needed to make full use of it to design the sound for this
> radical new shooting game. I made use of all the skill I had accumulated
> with this hardware at NMK, and I also studied Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of FM
> synth carefully.
>
> The sound of Battle Garegga was influenced by my friends at Raizing, by
> Detroit techno, by Summer Carnival '92 Recca, by FM and ADPCM (YM2151 and
> MSM6295), and by the game music of Hitoshi Sakimoto and Shinji Hosoe, all of
> these people and things I respect..."
>
> Since he's also done music for Cave (creators of my favorite bullet hell
> shooters), I'm now on a mission to find anything else he's slipped into his
> games that have a very Detroit-inspired sound.



-- 
matt kane's brain
im: mkb.dirty...@gmail.com (gtalk) / mkbatwerk (AIM)
twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic
http://hydrogenproject.com

RE: 313 music in the oddest of places.

[Edward Thompson]

Thats hilarious!
Great find

On 17 Dec 2017 4:43 PM, "Brian Prince"  wrote:

> Yo Logic7, good to hear from you again.
>
>
>
> Nice find! Yeah, a lot of the Japanese game composers in the early 90’s
> were listening to records from Detroit and Chicago. Another great example
> is the Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack from 1992 by Yuzo Kishiro:
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/_62PVfghXtc
>
>
>
> (I dubbed the whole soundtrack from that game to tape so I could listen to
> it on my Walkman on the school bus)
>
>
>
> Hearing that stuff when I was 12 and 13 primed me for the Tresor
> compilations I started picking up when I was 14 and 15.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Brian Prince
>
> brianprince.bandcamp.com
>
> bprince.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Mister Jones 
> *Sent: *Friday, December 15, 2017 11:22 PM
> *To: *313@hyperreal.org
> *Subject: *313 music in the oddest of places.
>
>
>
> Hey y'all... it's the member formerly known as Logic7
>
>
> I've been on an old video game kick, particularly old vertical shooters
> like Twin Cobra, Raiden, and the many bullet hell shooters from companies
> like Cave. While getting my fix I ran across a game called Battle Garegga
> by Raizing/Eighting. I'm playing for the first time a couple of nights ago
> in all of it's early bullet hell goodness when I get through the first
> level. The second level starts and the music changes and a melody of of
> stab chords starts playing... And I recognize it almost immediately. I
> played for less than a minute more and had to figure this out 'cause it
> sounded like a direct rip of something I've heard before. I paused MAME and
> hit Youtube for old Mills and UR, and I find the track: Jupiter Jazz by
> Underground Resistance.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk
>
> More Google-fu turns up the music from Battle Garegga; a double-CD
> composed by Manabu Namiki, released last December. Among the track listing
> was the name of the track for the second level of the game: Underwater
> Rampart (an obvious nod to UR)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA
>
> ^^^ That's the original version from the arcade game. The game wold be
> released for the Sega Saturn with a re-recorded version with different
> instruments instead of the Yamaha YM2151 4-op, 8 part FM chip used in the
> arcade game's system board (as well as the Yamaha DX100). With the
> composer's name, I ran across an interview with him where he states this:
>
> http://squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/manabunamiki.shtml
>
> "... I held a great admiration for techno music, and I had a good deal of
> respect for the Detroit techno artists in particular: Derrick May,
> Underground Resistance, and Carl Craig. The main programmer of *Battle
> Garegga* was also a fan of their music. Inspired by their music, I almost
> felt that I had something of a mission to take that energy and breathe life
> into the game's music.
>
> *Battle Garegga* used FM synth and ADPCM synth for its hardware. This
> equipment was obsolete compared to the standards of other arcade games in
> 1995, so I needed to make full use of it to design the sound for this
> radical new shooting game. I made use of all the skill I had accumulated
> with this hardware at NMK, and I also studied Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of FM
> synth carefully.
>
> The sound of *Battle Garegga* was influenced by my friends at Raizing, by
> Detroit techno, by *Summer Carnival '92 Recca*, by FM and ADPCM (YM2151
> and MSM6295), and by the game music of Hitoshi Sakimoto and Shinji Hosoe,
> all of these people and things I respect..."
>
> Since he's also done music for Cave (creators of my favorite bullet hell
> shooters), I'm now on a mission to find anything else he's slipped into his
> games that have a very Detroit-inspired sound.
>
>
>

RE: 313 music in the oddest of places.

[Brian Prince]

Yo Logic7, good to hear from you again.

Nice find! Yeah, a lot of the Japanese game composers in the early 90’s were 
listening to records from Detroit and Chicago. Another great example is the 
Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack from 1992 by Yuzo Kishiro:

https://youtu.be/_62PVfghXtc

(I dubbed the whole soundtrack from that game to tape so I could listen to it 
on my Walkman on the school bus)

Hearing that stuff when I was 12 and 13 primed me for the Tresor compilations I 
started picking up when I was 14 and 15.

---
Brian Prince
brianprince.bandcamp.com
bprince.com


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mister Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:22 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: 313 music in the oddest of places.

Hey y'all... it's the member formerly known as Logic7

I've been on an old video game kick, particularly old vertical shooters like 
Twin Cobra, Raiden, and the many bullet hell shooters from companies like Cave. 
While getting my fix I ran across a game called Battle Garegga by 
Raizing/Eighting. I'm playing for the first time a couple of nights ago in all 
of it's early bullet hell goodness when I get through the first level. The 
second level starts and the music changes and a melody of of stab chords starts 
playing... And I recognize it almost immediately. I played for less than a 
minute more and had to figure this out 'cause it sounded like a direct rip of 
something I've heard before. I paused MAME and hit Youtube for old Mills and 
UR, and I find the track: Jupiter Jazz by Underground Resistance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk
More Google-fu turns up the music from Battle Garegga; a double-CD composed by 
Manabu Namiki, released last December. Among the track listing was the name of 
the track for the second level of the game: Underwater Rampart (an obvious nod 
to UR)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA
^^^ That's the original version from the arcade game. The game wold be released 
for the Sega Saturn with a re-recorded version with different instruments 
instead of the Yamaha YM2151 4-op, 8 part FM chip used in the arcade game's 
system board (as well as the Yamaha DX100). With the composer's name, I ran 
across an interview with him where he states this:

http://squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/manabunamiki.shtml

"... I held a great admiration for techno music, and I had a good deal of 
respect for the Detroit techno artists in particular: Derrick May, Underground 
Resistance, and Carl Craig. The main programmer of Battle Garegga was also a 
fan of their music. Inspired by their music, I almost felt that I had something 
of a mission to take that energy and breathe life into the game's music. 
Battle Garegga used FM synth and ADPCM synth for its hardware. This equipment 
was obsolete compared to the standards of other arcade games in 1995, so I 
needed to make full use of it to design the sound for this radical new shooting 
game. I made use of all the skill I had accumulated with this hardware at NMK, 
and I also studied Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of FM synth carefully.
The sound of Battle Garegga was influenced by my friends at Raizing, by Detroit 
techno, by Summer Carnival '92 Recca, by FM and ADPCM (YM2151 and MSM6295), and 
by the game music of Hitoshi Sakimoto and Shinji Hosoe, all of these people and 
things I respect..."
Since he's also done music for Cave (creators of my favorite bullet hell 
shooters), I'm now on a mission to find anything else he's slipped into his 
games that have a very Detroit-inspired sound.

Re: (313) Murder Capital ... ?

[313]

Hi Fred,

I know you're busy 'nd all, but I have to say: that Monongahela Road 
record has to be perhaps one of my favourite of one of your tracks. 
Unless of course, you can recommend something finer, non-Dust Science of 
course.


https://www.discogs.com/Pittsburgh-Track-Authority-Untitled-Monongahela-Rainforest/release/3352838

telepathic regards,

Charles

Sorry to intrude upon the "Thomas D. Cox, Jr. personal soapbox 313 
list".


FYI, digital download sales don't amount to anything.  Still waiting to 
hear

some mind blowing, record shattering, divine tracks from Mr. Cox.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


-- Original message --

From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Jan 3, 2008 7:19 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's a funny joke and the punchline is next, right? You were going
> for funny hee-hee, perhaps? ;)

that guy and the corny scientist out all in one day. must be a full 
moon.


tom

Re: 313 Digest 9 Jun 2017 22:43:35 -0000 Issue 4368

[edward thompson]

Nature of the beast is one of my Fav all time tracks….
Damn it took me a long time to find that on vinyl!! years!!

> On 10 Jun 2017, at 8:43 am, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
> 
> Black Noise - Nature Of The Beast 

Re: (313) James Stinson mini-album with previously unreleased material coming out on Clone end of June

[313]

Good news

C

On 2017-04-27 10:39, Filip Sneppe wrote:

Hi,

More info and some soundbites here:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=38828

Best regards,
Filip

Re: 313 Digest 26 Apr 2017 23:50:07 -0000 Issue 4366

[edward thompson]

I saw him in Sydney a few months back….
An awesome set….

> On 27 Apr 2017, at 9:50 am, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
> 
> 
> 313 Digest 26 Apr 2017 23:50:07 - Issue 4366
> 
> Topics (messages 105497 through 105497)
> 
> Re: DJ STINGRAY 313 in NYC fri 4.28
>   105497 by: Patrick Wacher
> 
> Administrivia:
> 
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To post to the list, e-mail:
>   313@hyperreal.org
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> From: Patrick Wacher 
> Subject: Re: DJ STINGRAY 313 in NYC fri 4.28
> Date: 27 April 2017 at 9:50:17 am AEST
> To: "Alex .." 
> Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> 
> 
> Nice line up! Love the flyer!
> 
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Alex ..  > wrote:
> Friday 4.28
> 
> Capriccio 6 years.
> 
> the line up is heavy
> 
> please join us and spread the word to your nyc friends and fam
> 
> https://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?959671 
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/events/1003329216464952 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: 313 Digest 23 Sep 2016 04:31:51 -0000 Issue 4358

[edward thompson]

PS
Dopplereffekt were in Sydney last weekend
I enjoyed the show
No classic but some riffs/hints of drexciya tracks intertwined in there gig
Was great to see them live in Sydney
Seen them once before in Sweden and they were very minimal…..
Enjoyed this show more
Ed

> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:31 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
> 
> 
> 313 Digest 23 Sep 2016 04:31:51 - Issue 4358
> 
> Topics (messages 105479 through 105480)
> 
> Re: A [10]: Music's Got Me Keepin' On: A Tribute to Prelude
>   105479 by: Andrew Duke
> 
> Looking for Elecktroids Elektroworld on vinyl, I have S.I.D.-002 to trade
>   105480 by: Daniel Troberg
> 
> Administrivia:
> 
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To post to the list, e-mail:
>   313@hyperreal.org
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> From: Andrew Duke 
> Subject: Re: A [10]: Music's Got Me Keepin' On: A Tribute to Prelude
> Date: 21 September 2016 at 3:12:37 AM AEST
> To: Arturo Lopez 
> Cc: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org>
> 
> 
> Mix is great. Have downloaded for future and currently on my second streaming 
> listen.
> 
> https://compforandreasgehm.bandcamp.com 
>   
> http://andrewdukeinthemix.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Arturo Lopez  > wrote:
> Sorry for all of the replies to last post, will keep this on topic. Had a few 
> folks interested in some of our label mixes, we had a great guy from Chicago 
> make us a mix of all Prelude records.  Not so much Techno related, but some 
> of this might be up a few of your alleys. 
> 
> Cheers,
> -Art
> 
> We'll probably try and do a few more like this soon, in a Techno oriented 
> direction.  
> 
> 
> We are pleased as punch to share with you all a great mix from Chicago's 
> SoundInBetween, spotlighting choice cuts from Prelude's magnificent catalog.  
> Prelude [1976-1986] is one of those special record labels at the right time 
> and place, straddling the end of disco and riding straight through towards 
> boogie gold, moving countless bodies in the process.  Lots of heat on this 
> one, enjoy!
> 
> http://www.art-and-artifice.com/blog/2016/9/19/10-musics-got-me-keepin-on-a-tribute-to-prelude
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Daniel Troberg 
> Subject: Looking for Elecktroids Elektroworld on vinyl, I have S.I.D.-002 to 
> trade
> Date: 23 September 2016 at 2:31:48 PM AEST
> To: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Reply-To: erasemu...@mac.com
> 
> 
> As per the subject. SID002 is:
> 
> https://www.discogs.com/Andre-Holland-Abstract-EP/master/7204 
> 
> 
> My copy is near mint. Ive played it once and then put it back in the cage. 
> Item is in Los Angeles, CA, USA.
> 
> Email me at erasemu...@mac.com 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 

Re: 313 Digest 23 Sep 2016 04:31:51 -0000 Issue 4358

[edward thompson]

I have that Elektroids record…. But unfortunately i also have that SID record 
so …..


> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:31 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
> 
> 
> 313 Digest 23 Sep 2016 04:31:51 - Issue 4358
> 
> Topics (messages 105479 through 105480)
> 
> Re: A [10]: Music's Got Me Keepin' On: A Tribute to Prelude
>   105479 by: Andrew Duke
> 
> Looking for Elecktroids Elektroworld on vinyl, I have S.I.D.-002 to trade
>   105480 by: Daniel Troberg
> 
> Administrivia:
> 
> To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-subscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
>   313-digest-unsubscr...@hyperreal.org
> 
> To post to the list, e-mail:
>   313@hyperreal.org
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> From: Andrew Duke 
> Subject: Re: A [10]: Music's Got Me Keepin' On: A Tribute to Prelude
> Date: 21 September 2016 at 3:12:37 AM AEST
> To: Arturo Lopez 
> Cc: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org>
> 
> 
> Mix is great. Have downloaded for future and currently on my second streaming 
> listen.
> 
> https://compforandreasgehm.bandcamp.com 
>   
> http://andrewdukeinthemix.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Arturo Lopez  > wrote:
> Sorry for all of the replies to last post, will keep this on topic. Had a few 
> folks interested in some of our label mixes, we had a great guy from Chicago 
> make us a mix of all Prelude records.  Not so much Techno related, but some 
> of this might be up a few of your alleys. 
> 
> Cheers,
> -Art
> 
> We'll probably try and do a few more like this soon, in a Techno oriented 
> direction.  
> 
> 
> We are pleased as punch to share with you all a great mix from Chicago's 
> SoundInBetween, spotlighting choice cuts from Prelude's magnificent catalog.  
> Prelude [1976-1986] is one of those special record labels at the right time 
> and place, straddling the end of disco and riding straight through towards 
> boogie gold, moving countless bodies in the process.  Lots of heat on this 
> one, enjoy!
> 
> http://www.art-and-artifice.com/blog/2016/9/19/10-musics-got-me-keepin-on-a-tribute-to-prelude
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Daniel Troberg 
> Subject: Looking for Elecktroids Elektroworld on vinyl, I have S.I.D.-002 to 
> trade
> Date: 23 September 2016 at 2:31:48 PM AEST
> To: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Reply-To: erasemu...@mac.com
> 
> 
> As per the subject. SID002 is:
> 
> https://www.discogs.com/Andre-Holland-Abstract-EP/master/7204 
> 
> 
> My copy is near mint. Ive played it once and then put it back in the cage. 
> Item is in Los Angeles, CA, USA.
> 
> Email me at erasemu...@mac.com 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 

Re: 313 Digest 20 Mar 2015 05:02:50 -0000 Issue 4279

[Philip McGarva]

On 20/03/2015 16:02, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:

I'd go further and offer commercial rights to remix projects. The
details of that would need to be discussed but in principle I would
welcome commercial remixes that were authorised by me and I would not
expect a share of royalties. I've no idea if that sort of arrangement
exists already, but folk in the business should be able to figure it out
if there's an interest.

Steve

No royalties IS the business arrangement :^(

Re: 313 Digest 20 Mar 2015 05:02:50 -0000 Issue 4279

[Steve Robertson]

I suppose that shouldn't be a surprise to me, but I didn't know. That
makes some sense though. It seems almost impossible for most people to
make money making music these days.

It would have been great to be a producer during the 90's. I bought a
lot of vinyl then too.

It's remarkable how limited a lot of electro vinyl releases would seem
to be currently. It looks like releases of just 100-250 records for even
the most well known artists. Good releases have some rarity, yet demand
is not what it was either.


On Fri, 20 Mar 2015, at 06:32 AM, Philip McGarva wrote:
 
 On 20/03/2015 16:02, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
  I'd go further and offer commercial rights to remix projects. The
  details of that would need to be discussed but in principle I would
  welcome commercial remixes that were authorised by me and I would not
  expect a share of royalties. I've no idea if that sort of arrangement
  exists already, but folk in the business should be able to figure it out
  if there's an interest.
 Steve
 
 No royalties IS the business arrangement :^(

Re: 313 Digest 25 Feb 2015 14:55:43 -0000 Issue 4276

[Andrew Duke]

Sweet. Downloading as I type this, Edward.


http://andrewdukeinthemix.com



On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au
wrote:

 hi guys,
 Smashed out a solid 3 deck UR mix the other day... Over 3 hrs
 https://soundcloud.com/ed612313/ed612313-submerged-in-the-612-250215
 Ended up using samples of Mad Mike from the NZ Radio interview :) Thanks
 for that...
 1. UR - Drexciya - Aquatacizem
 2. UR - Drexciya - Smokey's Illegitimate Report
 3. UR - UR on MIR
 4. UR - Fugitive from Tibet
 5. UR - Zero is my country
 6. UR - Unabomber
 7. UR - Andre Holland - They Will Never Know
 8. UR - Abandoned Building In Mono_Original Mix
 9. UR - Andre Holland_Inversions_Original Mix
 10. UR - Jaguar
 11. UR Jaguar Riff
 12. UR - Windchime
 13. UR - As free as you want to be
 14. UR - Andre Holland - Im In
 15. UR - Blake Baxter - Visions of you
 16. UR - Elimination
 17. UR - Gamma Ray
 18. UR - Beauty of Decay
 19. UR - Back to Nirvahna
 20. UR - Magnetic Timetable
 21. UR - Code Red
 22. The Martian - 808 State
 23. UR - The Safety is Off
 24. UR SID 003 - Lunar rhythms
 25. UR - Track 1 SID
 26. UR - Drexciya - S.I.D-005. Dr. Blowfin's Experiment
 27. The Martian - The Intruder
 28. UR - Drexciya - Dr Blowfins' Black Storm Stabilizing Spheres
 29. Drexciya - Species of the Pod
 30. UR - Drexciya - Aquatic Bata Bumps
 31. UR - Drexciya - Aquabahn
 32. UR - Electric Soul - X2
 33. UR - Mad Mike - Twista
 34. UR - Sweat (SID 01)
 35. UR - Maroon
 36. UR - Drexciya - Andrean Sand Dunes
 37. UR - Mirage
 38. UR - Final Frontier
 39. UR - Illuminator
 40. UR - The martian - Ultraviolet images
 41. UR - The Martian - Dreamdancing
 42. UR - The Aztec Mystic mix in
 43. UR - Octave One - Daystar Rising
 44. UR - Aztlan
 45. UR - The Martian - Skypainter
 46. The Martian - Stardancer
 47. UR - The Seawolf
 48. UR - Suburban Knight - Nocturbulus behaviour
 49. Jeff Mills - Step to Enchantment
 50. UR - Sonic Destroyer
 51. Jeff Mills - The Bells
 52. UR - Panic
 53. UR - Jupiter Jazz
 54. UR - Deep Space 9
 55. The Martian - Red Atmospheres
 56. UR - Hi Tech Jazz
 57. UR - Body Soul
 58. UR - Greater than yourself
 59. X102 Jeff Mills
 60. UR - Big Stone Lake
 61. Mad Mike Interview NZ Radio
 62. UR - Amazon
 63. UR in Utrecht
 64. UR - The Punisher
 65. Public Enemy - Burn Hollywood Burn
 66. Mad Mike Interview NZ Radio
 67. UR - Feat. Yolanda - Your Time Is Up

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 *From: *kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 *Subject: **Digital (re)-issue of my EP from 2001*
 *Date: *26 February 2015 1:55:41 AM AEDT
 *To: *do id i...@hyperreal.org, list 313 313@hyperreal.org


 I tried to start a label beginning about 15 years ago.  I probably would
 have kept releasing vinyl, but 9/11 happened which seemed to suck the life
 out of the dance vinyl world, I lost my job and didn't have $1500 to press
 records, and after that, well, the whole world changed.

 But weirdly, I've been selling this record again in Europe through
 Discogs, so hey maybe it's time has finally arrived.

 I miraculously still had the digital masters on a backup disk, mastered
 them digitally, and uploaded them to BandCamp.  As far as I can detect, no
 one ever digitized and uploaded them before; whether that means I slipped
 it into the marketplace just before digital music really caught on, or
 maybe DJs thought it qualified as a secret weapon to hoard, I dunno.

 https://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/future-farmers-ep

Re: 313 Digest 25 Feb 2015 14:55:43 -0000 Issue 4276

[edward thompson]

hi guys,
Smashed out a solid 3 deck UR mix the other day… Over 3 hrs
https://soundcloud.com/ed612313/ed612313-submerged-in-the-612-250215
Ended up using samples of Mad Mike from the NZ Radio interview :) Thanks for 
that...
1. UR - Drexciya - Aquatacizem
2. UR - Drexciya - Smokey's Illegitimate Report
3. UR - UR on MIR
4. UR - Fugitive from Tibet
5. UR - Zero is my country
6. UR - Unabomber
7. UR - Andre Holland - They Will Never Know
8. UR - Abandoned Building In Mono_Original Mix
9. UR - Andre Holland_Inversions_Original Mix
10. UR - Jaguar
11. UR Jaguar Riff
12. UR - Windchime
13. UR - As free as you want to be
14. UR - Andre Holland - Im In
15. UR - Blake Baxter - Visions of you
16. UR - Elimination
17. UR - Gamma Ray
18. UR - Beauty of Decay
19. UR - Back to Nirvahna
20. UR - Magnetic Timetable
21. UR - Code Red
22. The Martian - 808 State
23. UR - The Safety is Off
24. UR SID 003 - Lunar rhythms
25. UR - Track 1 SID
26. UR - Drexciya - S.I.D-005. Dr. Blowfin's Experiment
27. The Martian - The Intruder
28. UR - Drexciya - Dr Blowfins' Black Storm Stabilizing Spheres
29. Drexciya - Species of the Pod
30. UR - Drexciya - Aquatic Bata Bumps
31. UR - Drexciya - Aquabahn
32. UR - Electric Soul - X2
33. UR - Mad Mike - Twista
34. UR - Sweat (SID 01)
35. UR - Maroon
36. UR - Drexciya - Andrean Sand Dunes
37. UR - Mirage
38. UR - Final Frontier
39. UR - Illuminator
40. UR - The martian - Ultraviolet images
41. UR - The Martian - Dreamdancing
42. UR - The Aztec Mystic mix in
43. UR - Octave One - Daystar Rising
44. UR - Aztlan
45. UR - The Martian - Skypainter
46. The Martian - Stardancer
47. UR - The Seawolf
48. UR - Suburban Knight - Nocturbulus behaviour
49. Jeff Mills - Step to Enchantment
50. UR - Sonic Destroyer
51. Jeff Mills - The Bells
52. UR - Panic
53. UR - Jupiter Jazz
54. UR - Deep Space 9
55. The Martian - Red Atmospheres 
56. UR - Hi Tech Jazz
57. UR - Body Soul
58. UR - Greater than yourself
59. X102 Jeff Mills
60. UR - Big Stone Lake
61. Mad Mike Interview NZ Radio
62. UR - Amazon
63. UR in Utrecht
64. UR - The Punisher
65. Public Enemy - Burn Hollywood Burn
66. Mad Mike Interview NZ Radio
67. UR - Feat. Yolanda - Your Time Is Up

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 From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 Subject: Digital (re)-issue of my EP from 2001
 Date: 26 February 2015 1:55:41 AM AEDT
 To: do id i...@hyperreal.org, list 313 313@hyperreal.org
 
 
 I tried to start a label beginning about 15 years ago.  I probably would have 
 kept releasing vinyl, but 9/11 happened which seemed to suck the life out of 
 the dance vinyl world, I lost my job and didn't have $1500 to press records, 
 and after that, well, the whole world changed.
 
 But weirdly, I've been selling this record again in Europe through Discogs, 
 so hey maybe it's time has finally arrived.
 
 I miraculously still had the digital masters on a backup disk, mastered them 
 digitally, and uploaded them to BandCamp.  As far as I can detect, no one 
 ever digitized and uploaded them before; whether that means I slipped it into 
 the marketplace just before digital music really caught on, or maybe DJs 
 thought it qualified as a secret weapon to hoard, I dunno.
 
 https://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/future-farmers-ep
 
 

Re: 313 Digest 25 Feb 2015 14:55:43 -0000 Issue 4276

[Jeff Davis]

Ed -

Awesome again.  Nothing personal but it only took me a half second to
switch over to the mix from the old Mike Paradinas tracks I was
listening to on Soundcloud (which are pretty much shite so far).

Any mix which opens with some Lardossian Cruiser is good in my book.
thanks,

Jeffrey J Davis

j...@jeffreyjdavis.com

www.jeffreyjdavis.com

218.833.2847




On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:39 AM, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 hi guys,
 Smashed out a solid 3 deck UR mix the other day… Over 3 hrs
 https://soundcloud.com/ed612313/ed612313-submerged-in-the-612-250215
 Ended up using samples of Mad Mike from the NZ Radio interview :) Thanks for
 that...
 1. UR - Drexciya - Aquatacizem
 2. UR - Drexciya - Smokey's Illegitimate Report
 3. UR - UR on MIR
 4. UR - Fugitive from Tibet
 5. UR - Zero is my country
 6. UR - Unabomber
 7. UR - Andre Holland - They Will Never Know
 8. UR - Abandoned Building In Mono_Original Mix
 9. UR - Andre Holland_Inversions_Original Mix
 10. UR - Jaguar
 11. UR Jaguar Riff
 12. UR - Windchime
 13. UR - As free as you want to be
 14. UR - Andre Holland - Im In
 15. UR - Blake Baxter - Visions of you
 16. UR - Elimination
 17. UR - Gamma Ray
 18. UR - Beauty of Decay
 19. UR - Back to Nirvahna
 20. UR - Magnetic Timetable
 21. UR - Code Red
 22. The Martian - 808 State
 23. UR - The Safety is Off
 24. UR SID 003 - Lunar rhythms
 25. UR - Track 1 SID
 26. UR - Drexciya - S.I.D-005. Dr. Blowfin's Experiment
 27. The Martian - The Intruder
 28. UR - Drexciya - Dr Blowfins' Black Storm Stabilizing Spheres
 29. Drexciya - Species of the Pod
 30. UR - Drexciya - Aquatic Bata Bumps
 31. UR - Drexciya - Aquabahn
 32. UR - Electric Soul - X2
 33. UR - Mad Mike - Twista
 34. UR - Sweat (SID 01)
 35. UR - Maroon
 36. UR - Drexciya - Andrean Sand Dunes
 37. UR - Mirage
 38. UR - Final Frontier
 39. UR - Illuminator
 40. UR - The martian - Ultraviolet images
 41. UR - The Martian - Dreamdancing
 42. UR - The Aztec Mystic mix in
 43. UR - Octave One - Daystar Rising
 44. UR - Aztlan
 45. UR - The Martian - Skypainter
 46. The Martian - Stardancer
 47. UR - The Seawolf
 48. UR - Suburban Knight - Nocturbulus behaviour
 49. Jeff Mills - Step to Enchantment
 50. UR - Sonic Destroyer
 51. Jeff Mills - The Bells
 52. UR - Panic
 53. UR - Jupiter Jazz
 54. UR - Deep Space 9
 55. The Martian - Red Atmospheres
 56. UR - Hi Tech Jazz
 57. UR - Body Soul
 58. UR - Greater than yourself
 59. X102 Jeff Mills
 60. UR - Big Stone Lake
 61. Mad Mike Interview NZ Radio
 62. UR - Amazon
 63. UR in Utrecht
 64. UR - The Punisher
 65. Public Enemy - Burn Hollywood Burn
 66. Mad Mike Interview NZ Radio
 67. UR - Feat. Yolanda - Your Time Is Up

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 From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 Subject: Digital (re)-issue of my EP from 2001
 Date: 26 February 2015 1:55:41 AM AEDT
 To: do id i...@hyperreal.org, list 313 313@hyperreal.org


 I tried to start a label beginning about 15 years ago.  I probably would
 have kept releasing vinyl, but 9/11 happened which seemed to suck the life
 out of the dance vinyl world, I lost my job and didn't have $1500 to press
 records, and after that, well, the whole world changed.

 But weirdly, I've been selling this record again in Europe through Discogs,
 so hey maybe it's time has finally arrived.

 I miraculously still had the digital masters on a backup disk, mastered them
 digitally, and uploaded them to BandCamp.  As far as I can detect, no one
 ever digitized and uploaded them before; whether that means I slipped it
 into the marketplace just before digital music really caught on, or maybe
 DJs thought it qualified as a secret weapon to hoard, I dunno.

 https://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/future-farmers-ep

RE: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2015 10:59:51 -0000 Issue 4273

[Paul Kendrick]

https://www.mixcloud.com/backintosh/underground-resistance-interview-radio-nova-paris-1015-fm-20130608/

UR did a Radio Nova interview.

From: Weston Prince [mailto:wespri...@clear.net.nz]
Sent: 16 February 2015 18:11
To: ed612...@iinet.net.au
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2015 10:59:51 - Issue 4273

Hi Ed,

Here’s a downloadable 2008 interview from when he visited New Zealand, “Playing 
Favourites with ‘Mad Mike’ Banks:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20080906

Cheers,

Wes


On 17/02/2015, at 12:07 am, Patrick Wacher 
pwac...@gmail.commailto:pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Ed,
Check out his interview in the Universal Techno documentary, he didnt hold back 
on those guys!

Thx,
Patrick.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:03 PM, edward thompson 
ed612...@iinet.net.aumailto:ed612...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Sorry… I should clarify. Ive already got the Liz Copeland  the slices 
feature interview….
Thanks
Ed
On 16/02/2015, at 9:59 PM, 
313-digest-h...@hyperreal.orgmailto:digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:



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Subject: Made Mike Audio Interviews

Date: 16 February 2015 9:59:49 PM AEDT

To: 313@hyperreal.orghttp://hyperreal.org/ 
313@hyperreal.orghttp://hyperreal.org/



Hi guys,
Does anyone know of any? Im looking for something solid no longer than 3 mins 
(so can be an excerpt) to use in mixes…
Thanks
Ed

Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2015 10:59:51 -0000 Issue 4273

[Weston Prince]

Hi Ed, 

Here’s a downloadable 2008 interview from when he visited New Zealand, “Playing 
Favourites with ‘Mad Mike’ Banks:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20080906 
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20080906

Cheers, 

Wes


 On 17/02/2015, at 12:07 am, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ed,
 Check out his interview in the Universal Techno documentary, he didnt hold 
 back on those guys!
 
 Thx,
 Patrick.
 
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:03 PM, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au 
 mailto:ed612...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Sorry… I should clarify. Ive already got the Liz Copeland  the slices 
 feature interview….
 Thanks
 Ed
 On 16/02/2015, at 9:59 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org 
 mailto:digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:
 
 
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 From: edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au mailto:ed612...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Made Mike Audio Interviews
 Date: 16 February 2015 9:59:49 PM AEDT
 To: 313@hyperreal.org http://hyperreal.org/ 313@hyperreal.org 
 http://hyperreal.org/
 
 
 Hi guys,
 Does anyone know of any? Im looking for something solid no longer than 3 
 mins (so can be an excerpt) to use in mixes…
 Thanks
 Ed
 
 
 
 

Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2015 10:59:51 -0000 Issue 4273

[Andrew Duke]

Sweet. Thanks for the heads-up, Wes. Downloading now.

http://andrewdukeinthemix.com



On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 Here's a downloadable 2008 interview from when he visited New Zealand,
 Playing Favourites with 'Mad Mike' Banks:

 http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/20080906

 Cheers,

 Wes


 On 17/02/2015, at 12:07 am, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ed,
 Check out his interview in the Universal Techno documentary, he didnt hold
 back on those guys!

 Thx,
 Patrick.

 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:03 PM, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:

 Sorry... I should clarify. Ive already got the Liz Copeland  the slices
 feature interview
 Thanks
 Ed
 On 16/02/2015, at 9:59 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:


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 *Subject: **Made Mike Audio Interviews*
 *Date: *16 February 2015 9:59:49 PM AEDT
 *To: *313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org


 Hi guys,
 Does anyone know of any? Im looking for something solid no longer than 3
 mins (so can be an excerpt) to use in mixes...
 Thanks
 Ed

Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2015 10:59:51 -0000 Issue 4273

[edward thompson]

Sorry… I should clarify. Ive already got the Liz Copeland  the slices 
feature interview….
Thanks
Ed
On 16/02/2015, at 9:59 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:

 
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 From: edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Made Mike Audio Interviews
 Date: 16 February 2015 9:59:49 PM AEDT
 To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
 
 
 Hi guys,
 Does anyone know of any? Im looking for something solid no longer than 3 mins 
 (so can be an excerpt) to use in mixes…
 Thanks
 Ed
 
 

Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2015 10:59:51 -0000 Issue 4273

[Patrick Wacher]

Hi Ed,
Check out his interview in the Universal Techno documentary, he didnt hold
back on those guys!

Thx,
Patrick.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:03 PM, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au
wrote:

 Sorry… I should clarify. Ive already got the Liz Copeland  the slices
 feature interview….
 Thanks
 Ed
 On 16/02/2015, at 9:59 PM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:


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 *Subject: **Made Mike Audio Interviews*
 *Date: *16 February 2015 9:59:49 PM AEDT
 *To: *313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org


 Hi guys,
 Does anyone know of any? Im looking for something solid no longer than 3
 mins (so can be an excerpt) to use in mixes…
 Thanks
 Ed

Re: 313 Digest 28 Jan 2015 15:30:04 -0000 Issue 4270

[edward thompson]

Cheers Jeff… Thats a mix i did 12 years ago….

Ps John Collins DJing in Sydney late Feb… Should be interesting.

On 29/01/2015, at 2:30 AM, 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org wrote:

 
 313 Digest 28 Jan 2015 15:30:04 - Issue 4270
 
 Topics (messages 105142 through 105142)
 
 Courtesy of the 313
   105142 by: Jeff Davis
 
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 From: Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com
 Subject: Courtesy of the 313
 Date: 29 January 2015 2:30:02 AM AEDT
 To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
 
 
 You could do a lot worse than listening to this mix
 https://soundcloud.com/ed612313/ed612313-courtesy-of-the-313-sept-2002
 
 So much UR back catalog marinated in there
 
 
 thanks,
 
 Jeffrey J Davis
 
 j...@jeffreyjdavis.com
 
 www.jeffreyjdavis.com
 
 218.833.2847
 
 
 

Re: 313 Mixes

[Rob Taylor]

Got a link to the Aubrey metroplex mix?

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote:

 Recent Aubrey Metroplex mix was quality, any other 313 mix recommendations?

 Few new releases about too,

 C

Re: 313 Mixes

[313]

from Metroplex thread.

https://soundcloud.com/aubreysolidgroove/aubrey-2014

C

On 2014-11-28 09:55, Rob Taylor wrote:

Got a link to the Aubrey metroplex mix?

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net [1] wrote:


Recent Aubrey Metroplex mix was quality, any other 313 mix
recommendations?

Few new releases about too,

C




Links:
--
[1] mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net

Re: 313 related internet radio?

[Brian Prince]

I'll second the recommendation for Timeline. Good shxt. 


 --
Brian Prince
http://brianprince.bandcamp.com
http://www.bprince.com

On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:48:41 +0100, Andrew Green mr.verd...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, you could try timeline music



there is a live show most evenings 8pm GMT with video, audio and chat 
hosted but a rosta of mostly vinyl  DJ's from around UK and europe.   
emphasis on techno which equates to a healthy amount of 313 
productions and influences. 

when not live older shows are on stream and you can dip into any of 
the archives.   its all tracklisted too


www.timeline-music.net

im up this Tuesday  ;)

A

Re: 313 related internet radio?

[Patrick Wacher]

I'm a heavy consumer of  https://intergalacticfm.com run by Interr-Ference from 
Murder Capital  Viewlexx records.  6 stations are various goodness, ranging 
from heavier, dark electronics on IFM1 through to ambient soundtracks. 


They also do regular video streams with regular heads like legowelt, DJ TLR and 
co. 




Highly recommended!




Peace,

Patrick. 


—
Sent from Mailbox

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Ivan Tomasevic to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs
wrote:

 Hi guys,
 Can someone recommend good 313 or 313 related techno/house internet radio 
 station?
 Thanks
 -- 

Re: 313 related internet radio?

[Andrew Green]

Hi, you could try timeline music


there is a live show most evenings 8pm GMT with video, audio and chat hosted 
but a rosta of mostly vinyl  DJ's from around UK and europe.   emphasis on 
techno which equates to a healthy amount of 313 productions and influences.

when not live older shows are on stream and you can dip into any of the 
archives.   its all tracklisted too

www.timeline-music.net

im up this Tuesday  ;)

A

Re: 313 related internet radio?

[Mike Taylor]

http://sonicsunset.com

http://infinitestatemachine.com

Should keep you busy for awhile.

M

On Sunday, October 12, 2014, Ivan Tomasevic to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs
wrote:


 Hi guys,

 Can someone recommend good 313 or 313 related techno/house internet radio
 station?

 Thanks

 --

Re: 313 related internet radio?

[Diego Simak]

2014-10-12 19:13 GMT-02:00 Ivan Tomasevic to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs:

 313 related techno/house internet radio station



http://deeptechno.fm/

Re: 313 related internet radio?

[Ivan Tomasevic]

Thanks for recommendations, everyone!

I too am a frequent intergalacticfm listener, with Radio Galaxia beeing 
the favourite channel.


As far as I saw, sonic sunset and infinitestatemachine do not broadcast 
live, right?


Deeptechno sounds interesting, will check!

On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, Patrick Wacher wrote:


I'm a heavy consumer of  https://intergalacticfm.com run by Interr-Ference
from Murder Capital  Viewlexx records.  6 stations are various goodness,
ranging from heavier, dark electronics on IFM1 through to ambient
soundtracks. 
They also do regular video streams with regular heads like legowelt, DJ TLR
and co. 

Highly recommended!

Peace,
Patrick. 

—
Sent from Mailbox


On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Ivan Tomasevic to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs
wrote:


  Hi guys,

  Can someone recommend good 313 or 313 related techno/house
  internet radio
  station?

  Thanks

  --







--

RE: (313) Population One returns to Metroplex

[Kevin Kennedy]

Wait till the release after drops...td's is great!!!

-Original Message-
From: Ken k...@bleep43.com
Sent: ‎6/‎13/‎2014 4:24 PM
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Population One returns to Metroplex

More new Terrence Dixon action.  


‎If this is his regular output in 'retirement', long may it continue. 


Ken


http://www.interstellarsounds.com/product.php?productid=5607cat=0page=
‎ 

(313) Re: 313 relevant releases

[maxphifty]

Dimitri Pike guest set on WNUR 89.3 FM in Chicago this Friday evening.

m50

Re: (313) Re: 313 relevant releases

[Dimitri Piechel]

Huge thanks to Max for the opportunity to play on his radio show, some of you 
on the list may know me for since a while and some others absolutely not.

Long time Detroit Techno supporter today doing my own thing in music but with, 
h, roots ?

Yes, roots. 

Looking forward to go further in the discussion after you hear the music played 
in this show.

Peace

Dimitri Pike / Wildtek
http://wildtek.net

 On 12 Jun 2014, at 16:31, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dimitri Pike guest set on WNUR 89.3 FM in Chicago this Friday evening.
 
 m50
 

Re: 313 relevant releases

[Wibo Lammerts]

Cheers Max


2014-05-17 5:43 GMT+02:00 maxphi...@gmail.com:

 Congrats to W1bo for his new Main Squeeze 12 on Bass Agenda and to Kevin
 Reynolds for his fine remix of Brooks Mosher on Liftkit Records.

 Cheers,

 m50




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Re: (313) Pittsburgh Track Authority

[jrsokolowski]

Hear, hear. Not a bad track on that album.

- Reply message -
From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Pittsburgh Track Authority
Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 8:52 AM
Preslav Lefterov, Thomas Cox, and Adam Ratana are Pittsburgh Track Authority.
Yes, Tom Cox aka Pipecock, the man who started many beefs on the 313 list, puts 
his money where his mouth is.


I think it's a brilliant work, and these guys have a ton of vinyl out in the 
past year.
http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2014/05/stream-debut-lp-pittsburgh-track

RE: (313) Terrence Parker

[Paul Kendrick]

I have no real information on these no shows (just whats been said here) but I 
do have first hand experience of booking  dealing with him and he was a real 
gent, his agent was a hard a** though, difficult to deal with if I remember 
correctly.

I hope he sorts all this stuff out as his by far one of the best djs I ever 
seen.


From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:the...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 May 2014 06:31
To: Wibo Lammerts
Cc: kent williams; Lerato Khati; Jurado Daniel; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker

I really don't have an opinion on what TP is doing...but I do have a couple of 
thoughts

One-as I have also had the opportunity to perform with, and talk with 
Terrence...I don't find him to be a 'superstar' dj...I find him to be almost a 
total square peg.  To me, that doesn't matter much.  As I have been following 
this, I've had a couple of feelings about it.  One-many people enjoy kicking 
you while you're down.  And, two:  This music business has always been a game 
played by people with honest hearts against those who would rather eat your 
heart for breakfast.

My hope is that he'll tell us all the story in some public way (whether he 
'makes his goal' or not).  I believe it could be a great cautionary 
tale-because some kid with a good ear and stars in their eyes needs to know 
that this business and life have a dark side.  I've lived the good times and 
the bad in music, and can say with great talent comes great pain.

I refuse to trash TP publicly.  I do think that on its face this issue 
looks horrible for him and his 'image.'  As a believer in God, it also can be 
difficult for the non-secular among us to not think of Televangelists begging 
for money before 'God calls me home.'  I only hope that he is able to make a 
resolution.

Personally-I've been homeless TWICE, lost 75% of my records, all my memorabilia 
and two different hardware studio setups already...and I've never, NEVER been 
able to find an agent willing to work for me.  One day it may happen.

However you look at this situation-it's really quite sad and painful to watch.  
If you like being uncomfortable, it's a great drama.

I'll keep my eyes on something more positive instead.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Wibo Lammerts 
wibo...@gmail.commailto:wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
Cheers Kent.


2014-04-30 19:10 GMT+02:00 kent williams 
chaircrus...@gmail.commailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com:

LIke I said, I have no idea what happened with Terrence, and people who are 
professionals should show up when they're expected and do what they do.  
Missing gigs as a DJ is really hard to live down.  As an example, Paul Johnson 
got a reputation as a no show, and I think that it still effects the number and 
quality of bookings he gets to this day.

I just want people to know that whatever happened, TP is a human being too.  
There's a tendency -- and I'm not accusing anyone on this list per se -- to 
pile on when someone's down, and I couldn't see it happen to someone I know and 
respect and hold my tongue.



On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Lerato Khati 
booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.commailto:booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
 wrote:
very sad to hear about TP's personal circumstances and i wish him all the best .
i do wish though that the issue with the promoters was handled a bit better . 
most promoters are actually reasonable . you do get idiots same as in any other 
job but i do believe that when you give good reasons for canceling shows to 
promoters and give them time to find a replacement dj and working on solutions 
with them then a good way can be found in resolving issues . i work with mainly 
american dj's . 1 of those dj's had to cancel a whole tour of 10 dates last 
december as his mom was out of the blue , diagnosed with a terminal illness and 
he just wanted to go home , understandably so  . i immediately reached out to 
promoters and asked the said dj to also publish a formal statement apologizing 
to fans who had already purchased tickets for some of those shows . 100 % of 
the promoters were very supportive . we managed to reschedule all of the shows .

i heard that 1 of the promoters involved in the TP situation went as far as the 
airport and he was nowhere to be seen . they got an email that evening saying 
he could not make it and they feel that they were not even afforded a valid 
reason for the no show !

my biggest worry with this situation is that , this  fallout will impact  other 
dj's - just because they happen to be american . when i started working with 
dj's beginning of 2008 . i approached several known clubs in europe and as soon 
as they realized that i was working with mainly american dj's some went as far 
as to say that they simply are not comfortable with working with american dj's 
because they come with problems . i.e. , not showing up for gigs and general 
attitude problems .

i feel in the last few yrs we turned a corner

Re: (313) Chicago House Master Mix

[Diego Simak]

thank you very much for this
downloading it now


2014-05-01 15:19 GMT-03:00 Paul Wise placid...@gmail.com:

 Hi guys, not really 313, but 312..it's only a digit out and i know
 theres some fans of chicago house on here

 This is a mix I did for Dj International Radio, using records
 predominantly from 87/88/89.

 Any excuse to do a Chicago House mix ;). These records make up the
 spine of my collection, which has been built around the early years
 86/87/88 from which so much good music was released. This mix is a
 shade under 2 hours of 'Music that's good for your soul' to quote the
 now sadly deceased Frankie knuckles. I've thrown in a few unavoidable
 crackles and mixes that aren't synced to within an inch of their lives
 make the mix a bit more organic than the usual offerings. To make
 ilife even more difficult, as with all my mixes, there's never any
 planning, I choose a first record and go from there, if I let a record
 for its duration it's because it's either a brilliant record which
 should be heard in it's entirety or I'm frantically searching for the
 record I want to go with it (usually a combination of both. I hope you
 enjoy listening to it as much as I did making it.

 Mix is here - https://soundcloud.com/placid_88/placid-mmix

 Track list (in Alphabetical Order)

 3 Voices - Escape - Sound Pak
 Critical Digital - It's House - Critical House
 Da Posse - Don't Try to Fight It - Dance Mania
 Fast Eddie - Acid Thunder - DJ International
 Fingers Inc - A Path - Dj International
 Fred Brown - The Whop - Rockin' House
 Gherkin Jerks - Don't Dis The Beat - Gherkin
 House to House - Taste My Love - Police
 Jackmaster Curt - It's A Mans World - Jiszack Master
 Jackmaster Curt - Real Fresh House - East
 Joe R Lewis - Acid Falls - Target
 Joe R Lewis - Separate Ways - Target
 Jungle Wonz - The Jungle - Trax
 Last Generation - Feel My Love - Lower Level Records
 Le Melange - Tortured Journey - Precision
 M E - Ride - Trax
 Master C  J - Face It - Streetside Records
 Maurice Joshua - I Gotta Big Dick - Trax
 Rio D - I Gotto Make It - Rio Records
 Risque Rhythm Team - More Than Just a Dance - Chicago Connection
 Rocko - Here's The House - Street Life
 Shawn Shegog - Love Traxs - No Name
 Steve Poindexter - Chilling With The P - Muzique
 Street Side Boys - I Want to be with you - Streetside Records
 Victor Romeo - The Art of Acid - Dance Mania
 William S - I'll never Let you go - Trax

 As you can probably tell, done in one hit, on 2 x technics - Squidged
 into an mp3 @320kbps.

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Wibo Lammerts]

Donald Keys also:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home



2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Needs your help:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home





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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Rob Taylor]

He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Donald Keys also:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home



 2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Needs your help:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home





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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Ken]

There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;)  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Rob TaylorSent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49To: Wibo LammertsCc: John Sokolowski; list 313Subject: Re: (313) Terrence ParkerHe's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
Donald Keys also:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home


2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:





Needs your help: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home


 		 	   		  
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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Lerato Khati]

a couple of promoters  in the uk said they were owed fee deposits that were
kept despite a no show .


On 30 April 2014 10:05, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

 There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;)

 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
   *From: *Rob Taylor
 *Sent: *Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49
 *To: *Wibo Lammerts
 *Cc: *John Sokolowski; list 313
 *Subject: *Re: (313) Terrence Parker

 He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Donald Keys also:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home



 2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Needs your help:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home





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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Rob Taylor]

So, is this a scam by unknown fraudsters or is Mr Parker genuinely asking
for our help?




On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lerato Khati 
booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com wrote:

 a couple of promoters  in the uk said they were owed fee deposits that
 were kept despite a no show .


 On 30 April 2014 10:05, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

 There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;)

  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
   *From: *Rob Taylor
 *Sent: *Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49
 *To: *Wibo Lammerts
 *Cc: *John Sokolowski; list 313
 *Subject: *Re: (313) Terrence Parker

 He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Donald Keys also:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home



 2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Needs your help:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home





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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Lerato Khati]

as far as i know - TP is asking for help to pay back the promoters he owes
for gig cancellations ++


On 30 April 2014 12:40, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, is this a scam by unknown fraudsters or is Mr Parker genuinely asking
 for our help?




 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lerato Khati 
 booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com wrote:

 a couple of promoters  in the uk said they were owed fee deposits that
 were kept despite a no show .


 On 30 April 2014 10:05, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

 There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;)

  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
   *From: *Rob Taylor
 *Sent: *Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49
 *To: *Wibo Lammerts
 *Cc: *John Sokolowski; list 313
 *Subject: *Re: (313) Terrence Parker

 He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Donald Keys also:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home



 2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Needs your help:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home





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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Ken]

Really? Oops.   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Lerato KhatiSent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014 11:33To: KenCc: Rob Taylor; Wibo Lammerts; John Sokolowski; list 313Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parkera couple of promoters in the uk said they were owed fee deposits that were kept despite a no show .On 30 April 2014 10:05, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;) 
 
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
   
  From: Rob TaylorSent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49To: Wibo LammertsCc: John Sokolowski; list 313Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
Donald Keys also:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home



2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:






Needs your help: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home



 		 	   		  
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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Ken]

I dunno anymore!  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Rob TaylorSent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014 11:40To: Lerato KhatiCc: Ken; Wibo Lammerts; John Sokolowski; list 313Subject: Re: (313) Terrence ParkerSo, is this a scam by unknown fraudsters or is Mr Parker genuinely asking for our help?On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lerato Khati booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com wrote:
a couple of promoters in the uk said they were owed fee deposits that were kept despite a no show .
On 30 April 2014 10:05, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:



There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;) 

 

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

   

  From: Rob TaylorSent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49To: Wibo LammertsCc: John Sokolowski; list 313Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker

He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker)
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
Donald Keys also:https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home




2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:







Needs your help: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-dj-tour-debt-relief-fund#home




 		 	   		  
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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Martin Dust]

On 30 Apr 2014, at 11:45, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

 I dunno anymore!

add this as well
http://terrenceparkernotdjing.tumblr.com/

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Martin Dust]

Hey Rob,

Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say Cheeky…
http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html

RE: (313) Terrence Parker

[Jurado Daniel]

They are just talking about what is going on; the fund raising campaign he 
initiated and the one from the promoter, thats it. Not siding with any story.

 From: mar...@dustscience.com
 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:43:50 +0100
 To: 313@hyperreal.org; barringtonphelo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
 
 Hey Rob,
 
 Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say Cheeky…
 http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html
 
 
  

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[kent williams]

Starting in about 1998, the promotion crew I was involved in, Rotation
(Iowa City) brought Terrence Parker to play shows in Iowa City. We brought
him in at least 5 times.  Since then, other Iowa City promoters brought him
4 or 5 more times. The last time he played here was IIRC 2012.

Throughout that period, TP was the gold standard of 'name' DJs coming
through -- he always showed up, he always drew enough of a crowd to more
than pay his guarantee and expenses.  Furthermore, he was a sincere,
lovable guy, who would stand around for an hour in the rain after everyone
got booted out of the club to talk to fans.

He's always been a friend to me personally.  To the extent that I am a
judge of character, I've always thought he was honest, sincere, and 100% on
the level.  Throughout his career, he's tried a lot of different things to
try and make a living and not all of them are successful.  He moved to Las
Vegas and worked as the music director of an evangelical church; he's tried
a lot of different record labels and ways of communicating.

To some extent you could say Terrence was almost corny -- the intros to his
Mix CDs with the Warner Brothers cartoon samples; calling himself DJ
Extraordinaire.  But anyone who sees him play know that he's one of the
real people, a guy with a great ear for house music, great DJ skills, and
the ability to read a crowd and make them feel fantastic.

I have no idea what the deal is with his current difficulties.  I know that
a lot has happened in his personal life -- he has declared bankruptcy, lost
his home, gotten divorced.   That last has to have wounded him the worst --
he was NOT a player, and loved and respected his wife deeply, and I'm sure
still does.

I have not contributed to his DJ fund, primarily because after putting two
kids through college and one through graduate school, I'm broke as a joke.
 I also do not think that he will raise the kind of money he's looking for.
 But I have no doubt he is trying to dig himself out of a deep hole and
restore his reputation.

Whatever the reasons for his difficulties I believe in Terrence's talent,
character, and good will.  I have no doubt this whole mess of the last two
years in his life have been devastating and deeply humiliating for him.
 I'm not sure the IndieGoGo thing will work but I know why TP is trying it:
 He really believes in the goodness of people, and is hoping his fans can
get him back into a better position so he can do what he's best at.

When someone is down, they find out who their friends are.  The music
business is harsh, and real friends are rare.  If you are a friend to TP,
it's important for you to let him know that, even if you can't help him out
financially.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jurado Daniel daniel_jur...@hotmail.comwrote:

 They are just talking about what is going on; the fund raising campaign he
 initiated and the one from the promoter, thats it. Not siding with any
 story.

  From: mar...@dustscience.com
  Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:43:50 +0100
  To: 313@hyperreal.org; barringtonphelo...@gmail.com

  Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
 
  Hey Rob,
 
  Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say Cheeky…
  http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html
 
 

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Lerato Khati]

: mar...@dustscience.com
  Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:43:50 +0100
  To: 313@hyperreal.org; barringtonphelo...@gmail.com

  Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
 
  Hey Rob,
 
  Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say Cheeky…
  http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html
 
 





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http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[kent williams]

 devastating and deeply humiliating for him.
  I'm not sure the IndieGoGo thing will work but I know why TP is trying it:
  He really believes in the goodness of people, and is hoping his fans can
 get him back into a better position so he can do what he's best at.

 When someone is down, they find out who their friends are.  The music
 business is harsh, and real friends are rare.  If you are a friend to TP,
 it's important for you to let him know that, even if you can't help him out
 financially.


 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jurado Daniel daniel_jur...@hotmail.com
  wrote:

 They are just talking about what is going on; the fund raising campaign
 he initiated and the one from the promoter, thats it. Not siding with any
 story.

  From: mar...@dustscience.com
  Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:43:50 +0100
  To: 313@hyperreal.org; barringtonphelo...@gmail.com

  Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
 
  Hey Rob,
 
  Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say
 Cheeky…
  http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html
 
 





 --

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 http://uzurirecordings.com
 http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
 http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
 Skype : Lakuti

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Wibo Lammerts]

 will.  I have no doubt this whole mess of the
 last two years in his life have been devastating and deeply humiliating for
 him.  I'm not sure the IndieGoGo thing will work but I know why TP is
 trying it:  He really believes in the goodness of people, and is hoping his
 fans can get him back into a better position so he can do what he's best at.

 When someone is down, they find out who their friends are.  The music
 business is harsh, and real friends are rare.  If you are a friend to TP,
 it's important for you to let him know that, even if you can't help him out
 financially.


 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jurado Daniel 
 daniel_jur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 They are just talking about what is going on; the fund raising campaign
 he initiated and the one from the promoter, thats it. Not siding with any
 story.

  From: mar...@dustscience.com
  Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:43:50 +0100
  To: 313@hyperreal.org; barringtonphelo...@gmail.com

  Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
 
  Hey Rob,
 
  Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say
 Cheeky…
 
 http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html
 
 





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 http://uzurirecordings.com
 http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
 http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
 Skype : Lakuti





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Re: (313) Terrence Parker

[Kevin Kennedy]

 enough of a crowd to more
 than pay his guarantee and expenses.  Furthermore, he was a sincere,
 lovable guy, who would stand around for an hour in the rain after everyone
 got booted out of the club to talk to fans.

 He's always been a friend to me personally.  To the extent that I am a
 judge of character, I've always thought he was honest, sincere, and 100% on
 the level.  Throughout his career, he's tried a lot of different things to
 try and make a living and not all of them are successful.  He moved to Las
 Vegas and worked as the music director of an evangelical church; he's tried
 a lot of different record labels and ways of communicating.

 To some extent you could say Terrence was almost corny -- the intros to
 his Mix CDs with the Warner Brothers cartoon samples; calling himself DJ
 Extraordinaire.  But anyone who sees him play know that he's one of the
 real people, a guy with a great ear for house music, great DJ skills, and
 the ability to read a crowd and make them feel fantastic.

 I have no idea what the deal is with his current difficulties.  I know
 that a lot has happened in his personal life -- he has declared bankruptcy,
 lost his home, gotten divorced.   That last has to have wounded him the
 worst -- he was NOT a player, and loved and respected his wife deeply, and
 I'm sure still does.

 I have not contributed to his DJ fund, primarily because after putting
 two kids through college and one through graduate school, I'm broke as a
 joke.  I also do not think that he will raise the kind of money he's
 looking for.  But I have no doubt he is trying to dig himself out of a deep
 hole and restore his reputation.

 Whatever the reasons for his difficulties I believe in Terrence's
 talent, character, and good will.  I have no doubt this whole mess of the
 last two years in his life have been devastating and deeply humiliating for
 him.  I'm not sure the IndieGoGo thing will work but I know why TP is
 trying it:  He really believes in the goodness of people, and is hoping his
 fans can get him back into a better position so he can do what he's best 
 at.

 When someone is down, they find out who their friends are.  The music
 business is harsh, and real friends are rare.  If you are a friend to TP,
 it's important for you to let him know that, even if you can't help him out
 financially.


 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jurado Daniel 
 daniel_jur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 They are just talking about what is going on; the fund raising
 campaign he initiated and the one from the promoter, thats it. Not siding
 with any story.

  From: mar...@dustscience.com
  Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:43:50 +0100
  To: 313@hyperreal.org; barringtonphelo...@gmail.com

  Subject: Re: (313) Terrence Parker
 
  Hey Rob,
 
  Are CS reading your mail? Bit unusual for some from Spain to say
 Cheeky…
 
 http://www.clubbingspain.com/noticias/2014/contra-terrence-parker.html
 
 





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 http://uzurirecordings.com
 http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
 http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
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Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) UR in Sydney, 1993.

[Patrick Wacher]

And here's the URL. Sorry about that!https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152162289758542set=vb.22991198541type=2theaterStarts at 14 mins.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:35 AM -0700, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:








Got forwarded this link of a slideshow of a party in Sydney, 1993, which was URs first time in Australia.
Was at a venue called Grafitti Hall of Fame, which doubled as a meat packing plant during the day.

To save you the gurners, UR pics start at 14mins. At that point in time it was Mike, Alan T1000  Rob Hood. Slideshow also has pics of UR in Redfern, a predominantly Aboriginal neighborhood in inner Sydney.

Best to mute the sound, pretty cruddy musics and enjoy.

I haven't found myself in the pics yet, but I don't really want to. ;)

- Patrick.

Re: (313) The drum machine that refused to die

[Martin Dust]

It's not the same but good for the price, not mad keen on how it looks or feels 
but there's enough there for the money.

m

Re: (313) New Metroplex

[jwan allen]

Yeah. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming in the days leading up
to movement. I'm wondering out loud if the news of this release got buried
in the announcement of Mr. Dixon's pending retirement from the dance music
game? Full disclosure,  I'm being selfish, I want more quality music from
all that are either involved, or yet to be involved with this wonderful
thing we call techno.

Viva la Metroplex!

Jwan
On Apr 28, 2014 12:49 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a new Metroplex pop up on Rush Hour:
 http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=75019

 Was pleasantly surprised to see the label is back with a couple of great
 tracks from Population One.

 Had no idea Juan was reviving it, any further details around it's relaunch?

 - Patrick.

RE: (313) New Metroplex

[Kevin Kennedy]

Besides the TD release, James Johnson (plural) has a release slated for 
metroplex as wellI've heard that one and it's FANTASTIC!  

Hi everyone!

-Original Message-
From: jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎28/‎2014 1:00 PM
To: Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) New Metroplex

Yeah. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming in the days leading up to 
movement. I'm wondering out loud if the news of this release got buried in the 
announcement of Mr. Dixon's pending retirement from the dance music game? Full 
disclosure,  I'm being selfish, I want more quality music from all that are 
either involved, or yet to be involved with this wonderful thing we call techno.
Viva la Metroplex!

Jwan
On Apr 28, 2014 12:49 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

I saw a new Metroplex pop up on Rush Hour: 
http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=75019


Was pleasantly surprised to see the label is back with a couple of great tracks 
from Population One. 


Had no idea Juan was reviving it, any further details around it's relaunch?


- Patrick.

RE: (313) New Metroplex

[Patrick Wacher]

Good to hear of some more Metroplex goodness. It's definitely worth the wait it seems.I for one am in need of a new Metroplex shirt.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:15 PM -0700, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:











Besides the TD release, James Johnson (plural) has a release slated for metroplex as wellI've heard that one and it's FANTASTIC! Hi everyone!


From: jwan allenSent: ‎4/‎28/‎2014 1:00 PMTo: Patrick WacherCc: list 313Subject: Re: (313) New Metroplex
Yeah. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming in the days leading up to movement. I'm wondering out loud if the news of this release got buried in the announcement of Mr. Dixon's pending retirement from the dance music game? Full disclosure, I'm being selfish, I want more quality music from all that are either involved, or yet to be involved with this wonderful thing we call techno.
Viva la Metroplex!
Jwan
On Apr 28, 2014 12:49 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:




I saw a new Metroplex pop up on Rush Hour: http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=75019Was pleasantly surprised to see the label is back with a couple of great tracks from Population One. Had no idea Juan was reviving it, any further details around it's relaunch?- Patrick.

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[Fred Heutte]

I don't recommend changing to googlegroups.  My office uses it
extensively for staff and external lists and we are finding intermittent
but persistent issues with delivery delays ranging up to 48 hours.
Apparently the internal spam filtering there is very sensitive to small
changes in text or delivery patterns and implements holds of
varying lengths.

Our inquiries to Google have, of course, not been answered.

Fred

-
Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big e-mail
 providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian Behlendorf
 (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.

 The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way EZMLM
 works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list members.
 Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM: address
 is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.

 This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It has
 happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.

 Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this will
 likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.

 If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing list
 server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
 (br...@hyperreal.org) know.


-

 If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving to
 Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from yahoo.comusers,
 or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
 yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo about
 an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict implementation
 of it.

 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html

 DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies and
 rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain. For
 example, for an email with a From header like:

 From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com

 Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
 servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique given
 that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?). But
 what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at Hyperreal,
 when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
 bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail and
 other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those bounces can cause
 chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at least
 let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't unsub
 those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.

 More details on technically why this is wrong:

 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html

 Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:

 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-
our-users

 There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something like

 From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org

 seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for DMARC-checking
 recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:

 http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem

 Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
 well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's even
 talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not decided
 whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something else,
 but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be able
 to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
 narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).

 Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
 provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is asking
 youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to participate.
 But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
 programming/migration talent to contribute) let me know.



--
matt kane
twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic
http://hydrogenproject.com

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[Mike Davis]

We have the same issues with Google Groups for our corporation.  I would
highly recommend against using it unless they fix the spam filtering
procedures.




On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:

 I don't recommend changing to googlegroups.  My office uses it
 extensively for staff and external lists and we are finding intermittent
 but persistent issues with delivery delays ranging up to 48 hours.
 Apparently the internal spam filtering there is very sensitive to small
 changes in text or delivery patterns and implements holds of
 varying lengths.

 Our inquiries to Google have, of course, not been answered.

 Fred

 -
 Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.
 
 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big
 e-mail
  providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian
 Behlendorf
  (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.
 
  The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way
 EZMLM
  works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list
 members.
  Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM:
 address
  is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.
 
  This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It
 has
  happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.
 
  Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this
 will
  likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.
 
  If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing
 list
  server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
  (br...@hyperreal.org) know.
 
 

 -
 
  If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving
 to
  Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from
 yahoo.comusers,
  or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
  yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo
 about
  an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict
 implementation
  of it.
 
 
 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html
 
  DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies
 and
  rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain.
 For
  example, for an email with a From header like:
 
  From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com
 
  Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
  servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique
 given
  that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?).
 But
  what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at
 Hyperreal,
  when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
  bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail
 and
  other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those bounces can
 cause
  chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at
 least
  let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't
 unsub
  those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.
 
  More details on technically why this is wrong:
 
  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html
 
  Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:
 
 
 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-
 our-users
 
  There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something
 like
 
  From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org
 
  seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for
 DMARC-checking
  recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:
 
  http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem
 
  Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
  well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's
 even
  talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not decided
  whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something
 else,
  but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be
 able
  to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
  narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).
 
  Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
  provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is asking
  youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to
 participate.
  But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
  programming/migration talent to contribute) let me know.
 
 
 
 --
 matt kane
 twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic
 http://hydrogenproject.com
 
 

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[kent williams]

OK, clarifications...

You will see bounces on e-mail services other than Yahoo.  GMail
implements DMARC but it doesn't itself bounce emails that fail DMARC
tests.  But when Yahoo servers get your e-mail, they will check the
DMARC and reject it, because the way EZMLM (and every other e-mail
list software) works is by re-writing the headers. You re-write the
headers you break the check-sum or some-such baloney.

And there's several negative votes on Google Groups. Fair enough.

At this point, it's probably best if we encourage Yahoo 313
subscribers to move to a GMail account, and sit tight while Brian
Behlendorf figures stuff out.

Re: (313) Silent Phase (The Theory Of)

[Ken]

Almost 20 years later,  The Theory of... still beats most of SP's other 
output, including the second LP.

Go here for the new Roland Gear (if you're a purist prepare to be disappointed 
a bit!):

‎http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/14/roland-aira-tr-8-system-1-tb-3-vt-3/




Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
  Original Message  
From: 3...@coke-smyth.net
Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2014 18:22
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Reply To: 3...@coke-smyth.net
Subject: (313) Silent Phase (The Theory Of)

V. Underrated Album. Recommended.

http://www.discogs.com/Silent-Phase-The-Theory-Of/release/4682

C

Re: (313) Silent Phase (The Theory Of)

[Patrick Wacher]

Oh yeah. Definitely a great record. Going to dig this out now!- Patrick
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:22 AM -0700, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote:








V. Underrated Album. Recommended.

http://www.discogs.com/Silent-Phase-The-Theory-Of/release/4682

C

Re: (313) The drum machine that refused to die

[Patrick Wacher]

Yeah, Roland released an updated 808, if you could call it that. It also has the 909 sounds in there.Without the comparison to the 808, it seems like a decent stand alone drum machine for $400 or so dollars. Octave One have been using it from recent photos of their live setup.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM -0700, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote:








Anyone know any more about a new 808?

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/14/roland-launch-new-instruments-808-909-303

Article with audio from Graham Massey here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-26651321

Tempted to invest in a drum machine. :-)

C

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[kent williams]

The partial solution would be to switch from a Yahoo e-mail account if you
have one.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.comwrote:

 Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big e-mail
 providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian Behlendorf
 (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.

 The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way EZMLM
 works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list members.
  Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM: address
 is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.

 This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It has
 happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.

 Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this will
 likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.

 If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing list
 server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and (
 br...@hyperreal.org) know.


 -

 If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving to
 Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from yahoo.comusers,
 or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
 yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo
 about an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict
 implementation of it.

 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-
 destroys-every.html

 DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies and
 rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain. For
 example, for an email with a From header like:

 From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com

 Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
 servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique given
 that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?).
 But what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at
 Hyperreal, when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's
 servers, it bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces
 at Gmail and other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those
 bounces can cause chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those
 bounces and at least let subscribers know they're missing messages and why,
 and shouldn't unsub those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.

 More details on technically why this is wrong:

 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html

 Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:

 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-
 dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users

 There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something like

 From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org

 seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for DMARC-checking
 recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:

 http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem

 Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
 well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's even
 talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not decided
 whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something else,
 but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be able
 to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
 narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).

 Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
 provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is asking
 youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to
 participate.  But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
 programming/migration talent to contribute) let me know.

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[Matthew Kane]

Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big e-mail
 providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian Behlendorf
 (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.

 The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way EZMLM
 works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list members.
 Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM: address
 is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.

 This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It has
 happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.

 Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this will
 likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.

 If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing list
 server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
 (br...@hyperreal.org) know.

 -

 If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving to
 Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from yahoo.comusers,
 or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
 yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo about
 an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict implementation
 of it.

 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html

 DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies and
 rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain. For
 example, for an email with a From header like:

 From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com

 Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
 servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique given
 that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?). But
 what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at Hyperreal,
 when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
 bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail and
 other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those bounces can cause
 chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at least
 let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't unsub
 those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.

 More details on technically why this is wrong:

 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html

 Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:

 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users

 There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something like

 From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org

 seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for DMARC-checking
 recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:

 http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem

 Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
 well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's even
 talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not decided
 whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something else,
 but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be able
 to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
 narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).

 Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
 provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is asking
 youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to participate.
 But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
 programming/migration talent to contribute) let me know.



-- 
matt kane
twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic
http://hydrogenproject.com

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[kent williams]

Yeah we'll see what Brian decides. Switching over all the
hyperreal.orglists will be kind of a chore.

I'd just switch to a google group if I didn't think that would cause other
problems.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Kane m...@hydrogenproject.comwrote:

 Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.

 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big e-mail
  providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian Behlendorf
  (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.
 
  The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way EZMLM
  works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list
 members.
  Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM:
 address
  is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.
 
  This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It has
  happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.
 
  Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this will
  likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.
 
  If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing
 list
  server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
  (br...@hyperreal.org) know.
 
 
 -
 
  If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving to
  Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from
 yahoo.comusers,
  or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
  yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo
 about
  an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict
 implementation
  of it.
 
 
 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html
 
  DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies and
  rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain.
 For
  example, for an email with a From header like:
 
  From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com
 
  Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
  servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique
 given
  that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?).
 But
  what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at
 Hyperreal,
  when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
  bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail
 and
  other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those bounces can
 cause
  chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at
 least
  let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't
 unsub
  those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.
 
  More details on technically why this is wrong:
 
  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html
 
  Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:
 
 
 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users
 
  There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something
 like
 
  From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org
 
  seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for
 DMARC-checking
  recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:
 
  http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem
 
  Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
  well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's
 even
  talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not decided
  whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something else,
  but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be
 able
  to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
  narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).
 
  Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
  provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is asking
  youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to
 participate.
  But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
  programming/migration talent to contribute) let me know.



 --
 matt kane
 twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic
 http://hydrogenproject.com

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[Ken]

I'm no techy. But we've been using g groups privately for years now. It's watertight. Of course the need to migrate would be offensive for a lot of subscribers, though, I guess.   Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: kent williamsSent: Friday, 25 April 2014 15:50To: Matthew KaneCc: list 313Subject: Re: (313) EZMLM problemYeah we'll see what Brian decides. Switching over all the hyperreal.org lists will be kind of a chore.I'd just switch to a google group if I didn't think that would cause other problems.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Kane m...@hydrogenproject.com wrote:

Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big e-mail
 providers are implementing. I've quoted the e-mail from Brian Behlendorf
 (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.

 The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way EZMLM
 works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list members.
 Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM: address
 is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.

 This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It has
 happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.

 Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this will
 likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.

 If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing list
 server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
 (br...@hyperreal.org) know.

 -

 If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving to
 Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from yahoo.comusers,
 or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
 yahoo.com senders are involved. This is due to a current hullabaloo about
 an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict implementation
 of it.

 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html

 DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies and
 rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain. For
 example, for an email with a From header like:

 From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com

 Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
 servers, it should be rejected. This is a great anti-spam technique given
 that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?). But
 what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at Hyperreal,
 when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
 bounces. Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail and
 other mail service providers who implement DMARC. Those bounces can cause
 chaos, of course. Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at least
 let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't unsub
 those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.

 More details on technically why this is wrong:

 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html

 Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:

 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users



 There is no good fix here. Changing the From: header to say something like

 From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org

 seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for DMARC-checking
 recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:

 http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem

 Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
 well. Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's even
 talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen. I've not decided
 whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something else,
 but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways. I was hoping to be able
 to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
 narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).

 Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
 provide a quick resolution to this. For now all I can suggest is asking
 youryahoo.com users

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[aron schoppert]

I'm seeing this problem on my gmail address too...


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

 I'm no techy. But we've been using g groups privately for years now. It's
 watertight. Of course the need to migrate would be offensive for a lot of
 subscribers, though, I guess.

 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
   *From: *kent williams
 *Sent: *Friday, 25 April 2014 15:50
 *To: *Matthew Kane
 *Cc: *list 313
 *Subject: *Re: (313) EZMLM problem

 Yeah we'll see what Brian decides. Switching over all the hyperreal.orglists 
 will be kind of a chore.

 I'd just switch to a google group if I didn't think that would cause other
 problems.


 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Kane m...@hydrogenproject.comwrote:

 Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.

 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big
 e-mail
  providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian
 Behlendorf
  (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.
 
  The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way
 EZMLM
  works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list
 members.
  Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM:
 address
  is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.
 
  This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It
 has
  happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.
 
  Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this
 will
  likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.
 
  If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing
 list
  server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
  (br...@hyperreal.org) know.
 
 
 -
 
  If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving
 to
  Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from
 yahoo.comusers,
  or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
  yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo
 about
  an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict
 implementation
  of it.
 
 
 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html
 
  DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies
 and
  rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain.
 For
  example, for an email with a From header like:
 
  From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com
 
  Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
  servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique
 given
  that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I guess?).
 But
  what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at
 Hyperreal,
  when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
  bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail
 and
  other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those bounces can
 cause
  chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at
 least
  let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't
 unsub
  those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.
 
  More details on technically why this is wrong:
 
  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html
 
  Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:
 
 
 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users
 
  There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something
 like
 
  From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org
 
  seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for
 DMARC-checking
  recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:
 
  http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem
 
  Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
  well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's
 even
  talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not decided
  whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something
 else,
  but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be
 able
  to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
  narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising too).
 
  Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I can't
  provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is asking
  youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to
 participate.
  But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
  programming/migration talent to contribute) let me know.



 --
 matt kane
 twitter: the_real_mkb / nynexrepublic

Re: (313) EZMLM problem

[Nathan Palinkas]

same...


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:31 PM, aron schoppert norapo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm seeing this problem on my gmail address too...


 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote:

 I'm no techy. But we've been using g groups privately for years now. It's
 watertight. Of course the need to migrate would be offensive for a lot of
 subscribers, though, I guess.

  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
   *From: *kent williams
 *Sent: *Friday, 25 April 2014 15:50
 *To: *Matthew Kane
 *Cc: *list 313
 *Subject: *Re: (313) EZMLM problem

 Yeah we'll see what Brian decides. Switching over all the hyperreal.orglists 
 will be kind of a chore.

 I'd just switch to a google group if I didn't think that would cause
 other problems.


 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Kane 
 m...@hydrogenproject.comwrote:

 Mailman 2.1.16 has the Threadable change.

 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Apparently there is a problem with something called DMARC that big
 e-mail
  providers are implementing.  I've quoted the e-mail from Brian
 Behlendorf
  (who is the man behind hyperreal.org) on the subject.
 
  The big problem is people with yahoo.com e-mail addresses. The way
 EZMLM
  works is that it takes your e-mail and resends it to all the list
 members.
  Any mail server implementing DMARC rejects e-mails where the FROM:
 address
  is x...@yahoo.com, but it doesn't come from a yahoo mail server.
 
  This has resulted in people getting bounce notices from hyperreal. It
 has
  happened to me, and I don't even have a yahoo.com e-mail address.
 
  Bottom line is the hyperreal team is working on a solution, but this
 will
  likely screw up 313 emails for the near term.
 
  If you're an e-mail list wizard and can suggest a linux based mailing
 list
  server that can circumvent this stupidity, please let me and
  (br...@hyperreal.org) know.
 
 
 -
 
  If you list is still active and hasn't been swept away by folks moving
 to
  Facebook or whatever, you might have heard complaints from
 yahoo.comusers,
  or possibly even folks who have started to see strange bounces where
  yahoo.com senders are involved.  This is due to a current hullabaloo
 about
  an anti-spam tech called DMARC and Yahoo's recent and strict
 implementation
  of it.
 
 
 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html
 
  DMARC is a system designed to allow domain owners to specify policies
 and
  rules regarding how to deal with email from senders using that domain.
 For
  example, for an email with a From header like:
 
  From: Brian brianbehlend...@yahoo.com
 
  Yahoo published a policy that says unless that email came from Yahoo's
  servers, it should be rejected.  This is a great anti-spam technique
 given
  that lots of spammers use yahoo.com addresses fraudulently (I
 guess?). But
  what it means for senders to mailing lists like those we host at
 Hyperreal,
  when that mail goes through Hyp and comes back to Yahoo's servers, it
  bounces.  Not only that, but that Yahoo sender's mail bounces at Gmail
 and
  other mail service providers who implement DMARC.  Those bounces can
 cause
  chaos, of course.  Ezmlm/qmail will keep track of those bounces and at
 least
  let subscribers know they're missing messages and why, and shouldn't
 unsub
  those users automatically, but it still causes chaos.
 
  More details on technically why this is wrong:
 
  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html
 
  Yahoo appears to not get why this is a big deal:
 
 
 http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users
 
  There is no good fix here.  Changing the From: header to say something
 like
 
  From: Brian Behlendorf via sfra...@hyperreal.org
 
  seems wacky, but it's what Threadable did, specifically for
 DMARC-checking
  recipients and DMARC-policy-publishing sender domains:
 
  http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem
 
  Sadly, though, no open source mailing list manager has implemented this
  well.  Mailman seems to have implemented this partially, but no one's
 even
  talking about this for ezmlm and I doubt it'll happen.  I've not
 decided
  whether to move the Hyperreal mailing lists to Mailman or something
 else,
  but clearly we need to move off of ezmlm anyways.  I was hoping to be
 able
  to choose between a couple of them, but now that choice seems much more
  narrow (and not necessarily the best - Sympa was looking promising
 too).
 
  Anyways - I am sad that this is how things have played out, that I
 can't
  provide a quick resolution to this.  For now all I can suggest is
 asking
  youryahoo.com users to switch to another domain if they want to
 participate.
  But that sucks as an answer.  If anyone has better ideas (or
  programming

Re: (313) Borderland: Time Changes

[João Santos]

Thanks for the share, Patrick! Looks like Ableton is putting some quality
material out there, it's the second nice link that I've stumbled upon :)
Quality interview, and awesome videos.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice interview with Moritz, Juan  Laurens. To that, I thought Borderland
 was M  J. Hadn't heard of Laurens Von Oswald before.

 https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/borderland-time-changes/

 - Patrick

Re: (313) RIP Frankie Knuckles

[Arturo Lopez]

I didn't know the man, but he is surely missed here in Chi.

He was at the right place at the right time, and was instrumental in
millions of people falling in love with this music.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkKZeYxCQAAKqrs.jpg:medium

The Tribune's Obituary here:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-04-01/entertainment/ct-frankie-knuckles-appreciation-20140402_1_frankie-knuckles-house-music-dance-floor


-Arturo

Re: (313) UR is headlining Movement...

[Denise Dalphond]

Yep, very excited about this.

Congratulations! We'll be pleased to have you here.

Denise


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground
 Resistance as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me.
 http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit

 Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with
 1xrun.com, located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and
 will be moving into the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks.

 ~David




-- 
Denise Dalphond, PhD
Ethnomusicologist
www.schoolcraftwax.com

RE: (313) UR is headlining Movement...

[John Sokolowski]

Appears they are headlining the first night (Saturday): 
http://www.movement.us/artists
 
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 12:56:35 -0400
From: denisedalph...@gmail.com
To: cybo...@gmail.com
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) UR is headlining Movement...

Yep, very excited about this. 
Congratulations! We'll be pleased to have you here.
Denise


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground Resistance 
as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me. 
http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit


Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with 1xrun.com, 
located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and will be moving into 
the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks.


~David


-- 
Denise Dalphond, PhDEthnomusicologist
www.schoolcraftwax.com
  

Re: (313) UR is headlining Movement...

[jwan allen]

Yeah, I actually didn't see this news until this a.m. I had forgotten
there was another phase of the line-up to be announced since I'd
bought my ticket months ago. This is going to be a great time.
Congrats on the job Dave!


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Denise Dalphond
denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yep, very excited about this.

 Congratulations! We'll be pleased to have you here.

 Denise


 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground
 Resistance as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me.
 http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit

 Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with
 1xrun.com, located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and will
 be moving into the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks.

 ~David




 --
 Denise Dalphond, PhD
 Ethnomusicologist
 www.schoolcraftwax.com



-- 
Technoir Audio
http://www.technoiraudio.com
dealing with your imperfect world

Re: (313) Mayday

[Wibo Lammerts]

...slowly moves away from this fiery debate, back into hiding...


2014-04-02 2:34 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:41 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) Mayday
 To: ... ohana...@gmail.com


  Bach is also dead, and not teasing his fans with the promise of new
 work.  Not even close to my thought process.  Try again tomorrow.
  --
 From: ... ohana...@gmail.com
 Sent: 4/1/2014 3:03 PM
 To: Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com
 Cc: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com; jrsokolow...@hotmail.com; Weston
 Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz; list 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Mayday

 According to you, Bach is no longer a composer as he hasn't released
 anything in nearly 3 centuries.

 great logic

 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
  How often are we going to call Derrick May a producer, when he hasn't
  released anything in nearly 3 decades?  I respect his work, I think he's
 a
  fantastic DJ...but he should not be called a producer any longer, in my
  small opinion.
 
  Also, I have to respect a man that can rile up the hopes of many by
  making an inference in any interview that he's ...working on a new
  project/album  (or otherwise in the 'studio').
 
 
  Just my $.002 (adjusted for inflation)
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Yeah! Still got a box full of these. ;)
 
  Back on the subject... It seems there are 2  tracks by Derrick that have
  the name Phantom, the one on the innovator compilation and the one on
 the
  Italian Relics compilation. Does anyone know the story behind this?
 
 
  2014-03-28 20:12 GMT+01:00 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
  jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:
 
  Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)
 
 
  - Reply message -
  From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
  To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
  Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) Mayday
  Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM
 
 
  Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
  http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)
 
 
  2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:
 
  Interesting news...
 
 
 
 http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/
 
  Cheers,
 
  Wes
  http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/
 
 
 
 
  --
  | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 |
  --
 
 
 
 
  --
  | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 |
  --
 
 
 
 
  --
  FBK
 
  Absoloop/Orange 82



 --
 FBK

 Absoloop/Orange 82




-- 
| http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 |
--

Re: (313) Mayday

[Rob Taylor]

To be *really* pedantic, only a listener or a reader can *infer*. Mr May
*implies*.


Sorry!



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM, ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to you, Bach is no longer a composer as he hasn't released
 anything in nearly 3 centuries.

 great logic

 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
  How often are we going to call Derrick May a producer, when he hasn't
  released anything in nearly 3 decades?  I respect his work, I think he's
 a
  fantastic DJ...but he should not be called a producer any longer, in my
  small opinion.
 
  Also, I have to respect a man that can rile up the hopes of many by
  making an inference in any interview that he's ...working on a new
  project/album  (or otherwise in the 'studio').
 
 
  Just my $.002 (adjusted for inflation)
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Yeah! Still got a box full of these. ;)
 
  Back on the subject... It seems there are 2  tracks by Derrick that have
  the name Phantom, the one on the innovator compilation and the one on
 the
  Italian Relics compilation. Does anyone know the story behind this?
 
 
  2014-03-28 20:12 GMT+01:00 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
  jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:
 
  Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)
 
 
  - Reply message -
  From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
  To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
  Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) Mayday
  Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM
 
 
  Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
  http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)
 
 
  2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:
 
  Interesting news...
 
 
 
 http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/
 
  Cheers,
 
  Wes
  http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/
 
 
 
 
  --
  | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 |
  --
 
 
 
 
  --
  | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 |
  --
 
 
 
 
  --
  FBK
 
  Absoloop/Orange 82

Re: (313) Mayday

[ja...@iridite.com]

:)


On 2 April 2014 09:34, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be *really* pedantic, only a listener or a reader can *infer*. Mr May
 *implies*.


 Sorry!



 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM, ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to you, Bach is no longer a composer as he hasn't released
 anything in nearly 3 centuries.

 great logic

 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
  How often are we going to call Derrick May a producer, when he hasn't
  released anything in nearly 3 decades?  I respect his work, I think
 he's a
  fantastic DJ...but he should not be called a producer any longer, in my
  small opinion.
 
  Also, I have to respect a man that can rile up the hopes of many by
  making an inference in any interview that he's ...working on a new
  project/album  (or otherwise in the 'studio').
 
 
  Just my $.002 (adjusted for inflation)
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Yeah! Still got a box full of these. ;)
 
  Back on the subject... It seems there are 2  tracks by Derrick that
 have
  the name Phantom, the one on the innovator compilation and the one
 on the
  Italian Relics compilation. Does anyone know the story behind this?
 
 
  2014-03-28 20:12 GMT+01:00 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
  jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:
 
  Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)
 
 
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  From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
  To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
  Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) Mayday
  Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM
 
 
  Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
  http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)
 
 
  2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:
 
  Interesting news...
 
 
 
 http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/
 
  Cheers,
 
  Wes
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Re: (313) Mayday

[Martin Dust]

On 2 Apr 2014, at 09:34, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be really pedantic, only a listener or a reader can infer. Mr May implies.
  
  Sorry!
 

Actually made me laugh, good work Rob.

m

Re: (313) Mayday

[Rob Taylor]

Working in a school has turned me into an even worse pedant!

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote:


 On 2 Apr 2014, at 09:34, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote:

  To be really pedantic, only a listener or a reader can infer. Mr May
 implies.
 
   Sorry!
 

 Actually made me laugh, good work Rob.

 m

Re: (313) Mayday

[...]

According to you, Bach is no longer a composer as he hasn't released
anything in nearly 3 centuries.

great logic

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:
 How often are we going to call Derrick May a producer, when he hasn't
 released anything in nearly 3 decades?  I respect his work, I think he's a
 fantastic DJ...but he should not be called a producer any longer, in my
 small opinion.

 Also, I have to respect a man that can rile up the hopes of many by
 making an inference in any interview that he's ...working on a new
 project/album  (or otherwise in the 'studio').


 Just my $.002 (adjusted for inflation)


 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah! Still got a box full of these. ;)

 Back on the subject... It seems there are 2  tracks by Derrick that have
 the name Phantom, the one on the innovator compilation and the one on the
 Italian Relics compilation. Does anyone know the story behind this?


 2014-03-28 20:12 GMT+01:00 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
 jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

 Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)


 - Reply message -
 From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
 To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
 Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Mayday
 Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM


 Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
 http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)


 2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:

 Interesting news...


 http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/

 Cheers,

 Wes
 http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/




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RE: (313) Thinking of selling my copy of Hands Up For Detroit

[logic7]

Yeah, Hands Up was just one of several records he gave me when I stopped
by his crib that day. Dude gave me a bunch of his GTI releases including
that Disco D vs Paradime CD.  

Looks like I'm going to keep it. $30 simply isn't enough to part with it. 

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:57 PM
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Thinking of selling my copy of Hands Up For Detroit

If you can get mad bucks for it, go for it, but as Patrick said, for $30 it
isn't worth it.

I've got several records and mix CDs Dave gave me when he came and played in
Iowa City. Dave was an insanely generous guy. I really miss him.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:22 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
 I have one copy of Ghostly International's first release (GHS-001), 
 personally given to me by my friend Dave Disco D/Daisha Shayman (RIP).
 Hate to have to let it go, but if it'll bring in a decent amount then 
 it's what I have to do.

 The question is... Would it even be worth it? I'd hate to part with 
 something this close to me for next to nothing.

Re: (313) Thinking of selling my copy of Hands Up For Detroit

[Patrick Wacher]

Looking on Discogs, it's going for $30. Just keep it for the memories!


P.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:23 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:

 I have one copy of Ghostly International's first release (GHS-001),
 personally given to me by my friend Dave Disco D/Daisha Shayman (RIP).
 Hate to have to let it go, but if it'll bring in a decent amount then it's
 what I have to do. 
 The question is... Would it even be worth it? I'd hate to part with
 something this close to me for next to nothing.

Re: (313) Thinking of selling my copy of Hands Up For Detroit

[jeremy bispo]

RIP Disco D.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:22 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
 I have one copy of Ghostly International's first release (GHS-001),
 personally given to me by my friend Dave Disco D/Daisha Shayman (RIP).
 Hate to have to let it go, but if it'll bring in a decent amount then it's
 what I have to do.

 The question is... Would it even be worth it? I'd hate to part with
 something this close to me for next to nothing.




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Re: (313) Thinking of selling my copy of Hands Up For Detroit

[kent williams]

If you can get mad bucks for it, go for it, but as Patrick said, for
$30 it isn't worth it.

I've got several records and mix CDs Dave gave me when he came and
played in Iowa City. Dave was an insanely generous guy. I really miss
him.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:22 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
 I have one copy of Ghostly International's first release (GHS-001),
 personally given to me by my friend Dave Disco D/Daisha Shayman (RIP).
 Hate to have to let it go, but if it'll bring in a decent amount then it's
 what I have to do.

 The question is... Would it even be worth it? I'd hate to part with
 something this close to me for next to nothing.

Re: (313) Mayday

[Wibo Lammerts]

Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now:
http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)


2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:

 Interesting news...


 http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/

 Cheers,

 Wes
 http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/




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Re: (313) Mayday

[jrsokolowski]

Looks like you are selling one of your doubles of this, Wibo? ;)

- Reply message -
From: Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com
To: Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz
Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Mayday
Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:55 AM
Wait for te release, or grab your copy at Discogs now: 
http://www.discogs.com/marketplace?release_id=5395020ev=rb ;)



2014-03-27 20:34 GMT+01:00 Weston Prince wespri...@clear.net.nz:


Interesting news...



http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/26/lost-derrick-may-productions-from-1987-released-as-limited-edition-12/





Cheers,



Wes

http://www.mixcloud.com/westonprince/

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