Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper?
Hey, Siddhi Ma'am did you leave a blank e-mail here? I can't seem to find any e-mail if you have written one. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, Siddhi Desai siddhi.desai1...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree with Shyam Sir. Rather than reading cartoons just read the news. If you want something funny watch Comedy Nights With Kapil. There is no need for newspaper cartoons. Please take my remarks in a friendly manner. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com wrote: hello Sir, why you like to read cartoons? On 11/17/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends how can we understand the cartoon in a news paper with the help of jaws? Is the discribtion of cartoon available in the news paper? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU. 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU Skype: mohibrafel Phone: 09811767506, 09211192333 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind
I'm now 26. Hth stands for hope that helps. I don't have their contact details On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Imran could you by any chance have the contact number of those blind TT players? Also, BTW what's your age? What is HTH? Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, syed imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bhavya I don't know if I remember it correctly. When I was studying in 4th grade in Sri Ramana Maha Rishi Academy for the Blind, I seemed to have observed a couple of blind fellows playing the game on a table. I don't know whether it was table-tennis or what but it felt to me as though an audible cricket ball was used in the game and I could hear the ball being rolled on the table. I think they were hitting with something that resembled a big wooden slate there were holding in their hands, standing at either end of the table. I think that was probably the tennis racket. It was a rectangular table and the players stood on either end with their rackets and when one player hit the ball, it would go rolling over to the opposite player, and when the opposite player hit the ball, it would come back rolling over again - so forth. Occasionally the ball would drop on the floor and people would cheer the fellow who hit it. So I assumed he scored 1 point over his opponent. As for me, I could only observe without asking any questions because to be honest, I wasn't supposed to be there – I had excused myself from a boring class. I didn't want to grab any attention on myself at that moment. hth Thanks Syed On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: I live in Mumbai, Maitreya Ma'am. Please tell me if there is a sports club in Mumbai. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi bhavya, the first question to you is where do u live ? means in which city ? because ,as much as i know , there are many sports clubs for blind players in various cities. and they can explain u in person. thanks , maitreya shah On 11/17/13, Rajpal rajpal...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is possible and I think Mr. Mukesh Gautam can answer of all the questions raised by you. I would also request Mr. Gautam to reply of this mail. Acourding to me there is also a book regarding the sed subject Written by Mr. gautam and others. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind Hi, dear Access india mailing list friends. I am interested in learning and playing table tennis. I would appreciate if you answered the following questions. Q1. Can table tennis be played by the totally blind? Note: I am asking the next few questions presuming that table tennis is accessible. Q2. What modifications are there in the rules? Q3. What different equipment needs to be purchased for efficient table tennis by the blind? Where could I purchase them from? Q4. Could you make a video playing table tennis so I understand better because my sighted parents would explain me in person. I am eagerly waiting for good and enthusiastic responses. Any assistance or guidance would be really appreciated. Regards Bhavya Note: I know that I had posted a sports-related question some time ago but due to my mail being in digest mode I couldn't discuss. Now I resolved that issue. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or
Re: [AI] requesting for book
download it from the following link as soon as possible: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32836674/William%20Q.%20VEDIC%20MATHEMATICS.pdf Umesha - Original Message - From: rohit gowlikar rohitgowlika...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, 12 November, 2013 12:25 AM Subject: [AI] requesting for book dear friends I need this book Vedic maths if any one has plz share it, thanks in advance. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] All india radio news on sms.
I also not recieving news from air since last week. But, I too recieved the above said message. Just now, I triedd to register. I got a message that your mobile number is already activated. Still no news updates. Don't know why. On 11/17/13, JYOTHI jyothi.mt...@gmail.com wrote: # please!!! On 11/17/13, Aravind Aralaguppe aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com wrote: You jest give a mis call it will get activated On Nov 17, 2013 8:59 PM, JYOTHI jyothi.mt...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to subscribe, but failed. Not able to submit. At the same time, it is not showing any error. On 11/17/13, Chetan Soni chetanson...@gmail.com wrote: I am not receiving the news SMS since 12th of this month but on the same day I received the following message. For subscribing free AIR News through SMS please visit http://airnsd.nic.in/default2.aspx For unsubscribing the service SMS ?AIR space Newsstop? to 9211728082. -Original Message- From: JYOTHI Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:54 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] All india radio news on sms. Even I'm not receiving from 5th november, no idea about the issues.. On 11/17/13, srinivas bangalore_11 srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since last one month, I am not getting news updates through SMS from AIR. I have given the mist call to the same number and I sent the SMS also. Do you have any idea are there services like AIR which provides news updates through SMS for free? On 11/17/13, Aravind aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com wrote: hi friends I am not able to unsubscribe , I had sent sms in small letter once and in big letter once -Original Message- From: Salim qureshi Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:27 AM To: access india ; aktr...@googlegroups.com ; keyboardus...@googlegroups.com ; say every thing ; Voice Vision. Subject: [AI] All india radio news on sms. hi, to subscribe give miss call to 08082080820 and to unsubscribe send sms to same number typeing unsubscribe -- if you can dream it,you can do it. Dr. Salim qureshi.(CPT)consulting physio therapist, Mumbai India, mobiles primary no+919702559821,secondary no+919322742756 e-mails salim2...@gmail.com salim2...@outlook.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/sq2104 twitter http://www.twitter.com/sq2104 skyep physiosalim Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
Re: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind
Ok, thanks still Imran Sir. On 11/18/13, syed imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now 26. Hth stands for hope that helps. I don't have their contact details On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Imran could you by any chance have the contact number of those blind TT players? Also, BTW what's your age? What is HTH? Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, syed imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bhavya I don't know if I remember it correctly. When I was studying in 4th grade in Sri Ramana Maha Rishi Academy for the Blind, I seemed to have observed a couple of blind fellows playing the game on a table. I don't know whether it was table-tennis or what but it felt to me as though an audible cricket ball was used in the game and I could hear the ball being rolled on the table. I think they were hitting with something that resembled a big wooden slate there were holding in their hands, standing at either end of the table. I think that was probably the tennis racket. It was a rectangular table and the players stood on either end with their rackets and when one player hit the ball, it would go rolling over to the opposite player, and when the opposite player hit the ball, it would come back rolling over again - so forth. Occasionally the ball would drop on the floor and people would cheer the fellow who hit it. So I assumed he scored 1 point over his opponent. As for me, I could only observe without asking any questions because to be honest, I wasn't supposed to be there – I had excused myself from a boring class. I didn't want to grab any attention on myself at that moment. hth Thanks Syed On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: I live in Mumbai, Maitreya Ma'am. Please tell me if there is a sports club in Mumbai. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi bhavya, the first question to you is where do u live ? means in which city ? because ,as much as i know , there are many sports clubs for blind players in various cities. and they can explain u in person. thanks , maitreya shah On 11/17/13, Rajpal rajpal...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is possible and I think Mr. Mukesh Gautam can answer of all the questions raised by you. I would also request Mr. Gautam to reply of this mail. Acourding to me there is also a book regarding the sed subject Written by Mr. gautam and others. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind Hi, dear Access india mailing list friends. I am interested in learning and playing table tennis. I would appreciate if you answered the following questions. Q1. Can table tennis be played by the totally blind? Note: I am asking the next few questions presuming that table tennis is accessible. Q2. What modifications are there in the rules? Q3. What different equipment needs to be purchased for efficient table tennis by the blind? Where could I purchase them from? Q4. Could you make a video playing table tennis so I understand better because my sighted parents would explain me in person. I am eagerly waiting for good and enthusiastic responses. Any assistance or guidance would be really appreciated. Regards Bhavya Note: I know that I had posted a sports-related question some time ago but due to my mail being in digest mode I couldn't discuss. Now I resolved that issue. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Regarding e-newspaper
the hindu is good. If you subscribed to their epaper, you can access their epaper daily from their webcite thehindu.com On 11/17/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, dear Access India mailing list friends. Is there any e-newspaper which after subscription sends me an e-mail daily, enlightening me about the current affairs. Currently, I am subscribed to Times Of India but it has very few news and every news has to be clicked on to get a very small complete story. I would prefer the newspaper to have lots of articles just like the sighted newspapers on various subjects. I would also like the articles to be detailed and not extremely curt. Regards Bhavya Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Prasanth. True friendship consists not innmultitude of friends, but in their worth and value Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding e-newspaper
Hey, Prasanth Sir, couldn't The Hindu send me e-mails with all the news daily? On 11/18/13, Prasanth P.V. prasanth.mangala...@gmail.com wrote: the hindu is good. If you subscribed to their epaper, you can access their epaper daily from their webcite thehindu.com On 11/17/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, dear Access India mailing list friends. Is there any e-newspaper which after subscription sends me an e-mail daily, enlightening me about the current affairs. Currently, I am subscribed to Times Of India but it has very few news and every news has to be clicked on to get a very small complete story. I would prefer the newspaper to have lots of articles just like the sighted newspapers on various subjects. I would also like the articles to be detailed and not extremely curt. Regards Bhavya Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Prasanth. True friendship consists not innmultitude of friends, but in their worth and value Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] not getting audio from the server to my laptop require your help
hi all. as all of you may remember some days back I had posted that nvda doesn't speek anything when I connect to my server using mstsc so now we got a usb sound card and installed it on server I went into the server roome and pluged my headphones into the card to see if it was working or no and I found that it was working. but still if I connect to the server using mstsc I don't get any sound on my laptop. so I have the following questions 1. how can I root audio from the server to my laptop? my server using windows 2008 if that matters some1 I don't know on which mailing list had told me the following. 1. in run open mstsc and go to show options then to local resources tab and then click on configure remote audio then I get options like play on remote computer, play on this computer and donot play. I have tried the 1st and second option but still no sound. what do I do now my next option is to use a program like team viewer I went to the website and found 2 3 types of team viewer setup which 1 should I use. also is nvda accessable to team viewer when connected? I want to do the following please tell me if I will be able to do it using team viewer if my audio problem of mstsc is not solved 1. install/uninstall programs from server. 2. use installed programs like antivirus and all please help me urgently group -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] nvda and connecting to server using remote desktop connection
hi Zujar now I got a new sound card for my server I connected my headphones to the card and connected it to server and it works but when I use mstsc with the settings that u told it doesn't work I hear nvda say input capture window as I click on connect and that's it so what do I need to do after nvda says input capture window? On 11/9/13, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote: Check the setting for Remote Audio in the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box. To do so: 1. In the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box, press the TAB key as many times as required to navigate to the Options button (shortcut: ALT+O). 2. Navigate to the Local Resources tab page by pressing CTRL+TAB as many times as required. 3. Activate the Settings button in the Remote Audio group (shortcut: ALT+S). 4. Select the radio button labelled Play on this computer in the Remote Audio Playback group (shortcut: ALT+P) and activate the OK button. Back to the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box, specify the connection details on the General tab page of the dialog box and connect. When connected, NVDA should sstart automatically if you have ticked the check box to do so. If it doesn't start then you can type NVDA in the Run window of the server and launch it. Note that the Start menu of the server can be opened with ALT+HOME if it doesn't open with the WINDOWSS key. Feel free to revert with queries if any. On 11/8/13, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: hi all. please excuse me as this topic is as confusing to right as it is to use. in my office i have a laptop with a sound card and nvda installed and everything working properly today i was given a task to connect to my office server now hear comes the problem what i was told to do is press windows r and type mstsc i dont know what it is and anything but i did what was told then in the computer name i had to put my servers ip address and connect and it asked me for a user name and password i put it and connected then all nvda said is remote desktop connection to xxx.xxx.x.xxx (server ip address) imput capture window and after that no sound no matter what i do then i thought may be nvda is not installed on the server so i dont get any sound so i and my boss went and installed nvda on the server but again after i came to my laptop and tried no sound then my boss told me that there is no sound card installed on server and its a ibm server is that the cause of no sound when i do a remote connection to my server? or do i need to do some settings to nvda -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards, Zujar... An optimist laughs to forget, whereas a pessimist forgets to laugh! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message
[AI] job alert from eyeway
Hi all, One job alert given below from eyeway: Required Lower Division Clerk in Sugarcane Breeding Institute (ICAR), Coimbatore, Tamilnadu. V.I. can apply. Qualification: 12th Class or equivalent qualification from a recognized Board or University. A typing speed of 35 w.p.m. in English or 30 w.p.m. in Hindi on computer. Last date 15th December. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs or 16 November employment News page 4 -- ** Best,Binni Kumari|Helpdesk Executive! Score Foundation 17/107, Basement, Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 110024, INDIA. Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm) Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 26472582/81 Email:bi...@eyeway.org Websites: scorefoundation.org.in http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/ www.eyeway.org ** http://www.youtube.com/user/eyewayindiahttps://twitter.com/friendsofeyeway https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper?
which is the channel and timing of comedy nights wth kapil? And for coffee with karan also? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Siddhi Desai Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:16 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper? On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree with Shyam Sir. Rather than reading cartoons just read the news. If you want something funny watch Comedy Nights With Kapil. There is no need for newspaper cartoons. Please take my remarks in a friendly manner. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com wrote: hello Sir, why you like to read cartoons? On 11/17/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends how can we understand the cartoon in a news paper with the help of jaws? Is the discribtion of cartoon available in the news paper? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU. 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU Skype: mohibrafel Phone: 09811767506, 09211192333 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls asking for personal information like your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are
Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations
FD Roosevelt bringing in americans with disabilities act? At least not to my knowledge. He was in WWII whereas ADA was passed in 1990 at the time of George Bush, senior,me thinks. In fact, FDR tried to hide his disability from public view, to the best of my knowledge... -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of shankar shan Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:36 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations On 18/11/2013, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hello, the arguements for pwds in politics are true in their sense . but ,here i am with an example from america. today ,the american disability act is well known . before some years ,the american pwds also faced the same circumstances as we are facing now. but american president Franklin roosevelt who was the only disabled president of america , forced and boost the american disability act . and now ,the results are clearly visible. so ,i believe that this would happen in india too. thanks , Maitreya Shah On 11/18/13, shankar shan harshalgip...@gmail.com wrote: my dear friends and listers, discussion is moving smoothly, I don't want to take it in to rong track, but how many people no that, andra Pradesh has given 2 pwd candidates to the lok sabha [jay pal reddy and chirinjivi] and many politisions got disabled children at there houses till now, they got every thing, apart from education those 2 candidates would had made some changes for the differently abled people, but they r not, innstud, they r supporting to brake the state in to 2 peaces On 18/11/2013, Neerajsaxena neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then judicial. -Original message- From: avinash shahi Sent: 17/11/2013, 9:05 pm To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations Bhawani Sir In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election in large numbers. What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right intent. And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be MPs and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also. We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as politically active citizens? Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table? Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled candidate contesting on behalf of AAP? And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece 'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'. I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed: 'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men. The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights' subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste, rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and should be more significant for them are the issues of education, employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name a few. The reality, however, is that the majority of the disabled are still fighting to secure the 'bare minimum'. (Mehrotra, 2013). On 11/17/13, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: which
[AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore
Dear All Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do so. We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are forced to begg like them. Can we do anything for them? They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and singing in corus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind beggars live in groups then also inform me. --- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] best anti virus accessible with jaws
Hello friends, actually am looking for the best paid anti virus available in the market that should be accessible with jaws too. Earlier I was using Norton but from couple of months, after getting it's update, it lost it's accessibility. Also suggest how is Quick Heal virus, is it fully accessible? thanks! -- Excuse my thumbs! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] best anti virus accessible with jaws
Respected Sir, why should you not try QuickHeal antivirus. it is quite accessible with JAWS. Many are using and giving positive response. before purchasing you may go for having a try with its 30 day trial version. Thanks and Regards: Shyam On 11/18/13, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar hary.ru...@gmail.com wrote: Hello friends, actually am looking for the best paid anti virus available in the market that should be accessible with jaws too. Earlier I was using Norton but from couple of months, after getting it's update, it lost it's accessibility. Also suggest how is Quick Heal virus, is it fully accessible? thanks! -- Excuse my thumbs! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] best anti virus accessible with jaws
hii bhavya, quick heal is fully accessible but is not that trust worthy... i use kaspersky internet security 2014. its not at all accessible. but fully trustworthy i dont need to do anything On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar hary.ru...@gmail.comwrote: Hello friends, actually am looking for the best paid anti virus available in the market that should be accessible with jaws too. Earlier I was using Norton but from couple of months, after getting it's update, it lost it's accessibility. Also suggest how is Quick Heal virus, is it fully accessible? thanks! -- Excuse my thumbs! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper?
This mailing list is also for discussing TV shows and serials? Really! did not have so far any idea. Thanks. On 11/18/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: which is the channel and timing of comedy nights wth kapil? And for coffee with karan also? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Siddhi Desai Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:16 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper? On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree with Shyam Sir. Rather than reading cartoons just read the news. If you want something funny watch Comedy Nights With Kapil. There is no need for newspaper cartoons. Please take my remarks in a friendly manner. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com wrote: hello Sir, why you like to read cartoons? On 11/17/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends how can we understand the cartoon in a news paper with the help of jaws? Is the discribtion of cartoon available in the news paper? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU. 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU Skype: mohibrafel Phone: 09811767506, 09211192333 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls asking for personal information like your bank account details, passwords,
Re: [AI] best anti virus accessible with jaws
Hi Amit Sir, are you missing Bhavya?☺☺☺ Sorry sir, but it is Dr. Harshit Jaithwar who has the real question. Thanks. Warm Regards: Shyam On 11/18/13, Amit Pahuja amitpahuja...@gmail.com wrote: hii bhavya, quick heal is fully accessible but is not that trust worthy... i use kaspersky internet security 2014. its not at all accessible. but fully trustworthy i dont need to do anything On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar hary.ru...@gmail.comwrote: Hello friends, actually am looking for the best paid anti virus available in the market that should be accessible with jaws too. Earlier I was using Norton but from couple of months, after getting it's update, it lost it's accessibility. Also suggest how is Quick Heal virus, is it fully accessible? thanks! -- Excuse my thumbs! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] requesting for book
Hello, I have downloaded the book, but it has blank pages. Only title page is displayed please do the needful. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Umesha Economics Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:00 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] requesting for book download it from the following link as soon as possible: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32836674/William%20Q.%20VEDIC%20MATHEMAT ICS.pdf Umesha - Original Message - From: rohit gowlikar rohitgowlika...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, 12 November, 2013 12:25 AM Subject: [AI] requesting for book dear friends I need this book Vedic maths if any one has plz share it, thanks in advance. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Nazar Ya Nazariya Full Episode 09 Employment
Wow! Thanks so much for that.:) On 11/18/13, tejas bendre tsben...@gmail.com wrote: Download all episode from following link in MP3 format. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7jxxvjtbl21vcd2/stxmvxg2Tq thanks tejas On 11/17/13, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: could u please provide link for the previous episode also November 9th. thanks. - Original Message - From: tejas bendre tsben...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:48 PM Subject: [AI] Nazar Ya Nazariya Full Episode 09 Employment Youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYb2MS8sRj8feature=c4-overviewlist=UUwvG0GX3D4S1p9lh2gQxUXg MP3 link http://www.sendspace.com/file/2s90nc size 7Mb Thanks TEJAS BENDRE Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- “I don’t believe in being serious about anything. I think life is too serious to be taken seriously.” —Ray Bradbury Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] best anti virus accessible with jaws
Hi, There are three versions of Quickheal. One should go for Quickheal Total security. This has PC-tunor feature which is quite useful..is fully accessable also. Go for three years subscription which costs around Rs 1600.. Awanish -Original message- From: Dr. Harshit Jaithwar Sent: 18:11:2013, 5:37 pm To: accessindia Subject: [AI] best anti virus accessible with jaws Hello friends, actually am looking for the best paid anti virus available in the market that should be accessible with jaws too. Earlier I was using Norton but from couple of months, after getting it's update, it lost it's accessibility. Also suggest how is Quick Heal virus, is it fully accessible? thanks! -- Excuse my thumbs! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] All india radio news on sms.
How to unsubscribe? -- From: Aravind Aralaguppe aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:15 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] All india radio news on sms. You jest give a mis call it will get activated On Nov 17, 2013 8:59 PM, JYOTHI jyothi.mt...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to subscribe, but failed. Not able to submit. At the same time, it is not showing any error. On 11/17/13, Chetan Soni chetanson...@gmail.com wrote: I am not receiving the news SMS since 12th of this month but on the same day I received the following message. For subscribing free AIR News through SMS please visit http://airnsd.nic.in/default2.aspx For unsubscribing the service SMS ?AIR space Newsstop? to 9211728082. -Original Message- From: JYOTHI Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:54 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] All india radio news on sms. Even I'm not receiving from 5th november, no idea about the issues.. On 11/17/13, srinivas bangalore_11 srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since last one month, I am not getting news updates through SMS from AIR. I have given the mist call to the same number and I sent the SMS also. Do you have any idea are there services like AIR which provides news updates through SMS for free? On 11/17/13, Aravind aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com wrote: hi friends I am not able to unsubscribe , I had sent sms in small letter once and in big letter once -Original Message- From: Salim qureshi Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:27 AM To: access india ; aktr...@googlegroups.com ; keyboardus...@googlegroups.com ; say every thing ; Voice Vision. Subject: [AI] All india radio news on sms. hi, to subscribe give miss call to 08082080820 and to unsubscribe send sms to same number typeing unsubscribe -- if you can dream it,you can do it. Dr. Salim qureshi.(CPT)consulting physio therapist, Mumbai India, mobiles primary no+919702559821,secondary no+919322742756 e-mails salim2...@gmail.com salim2...@outlook.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/sq2104 twitter http://www.twitter.com/sq2104 skyep physiosalim Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Decide that you'll be successful and happy come what
Re: [AI] Nazar Ya Nazariya Full Episode 09 Employment
Thanks sir, for the link you shared for getting all the mp3 files. welldone. Please don't mind I am sharing the video link if he still wants something like that. Here that is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6e1Ku04rw Thanks sir, and also Sorry if I hurt you with this post of mine. Best Regards: Shyam On 11/18/13, O. Aishwarya oaishwa...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Thanks so much for that.:) On 11/18/13, tejas bendre tsben...@gmail.com wrote: Download all episode from following link in MP3 format. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7jxxvjtbl21vcd2/stxmvxg2Tq thanks tejas On 11/17/13, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: could u please provide link for the previous episode also November 9th. thanks. - Original Message - From: tejas bendre tsben...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:48 PM Subject: [AI] Nazar Ya Nazariya Full Episode 09 Employment Youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYb2MS8sRj8feature=c4-overviewlist=UUwvG0GX3D4S1p9lh2gQxUXg MP3 link http://www.sendspace.com/file/2s90nc size 7Mb Thanks TEJAS BENDRE Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- “I don’t believe in being serious about anything. I think life is too serious to be taken seriously.” —Ray Bradbury Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send
Re: [AI] Nazar Ya Nazariya Full Episode 09 Employment
No problem sir. tejas On 11/18/13, shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks sir, for the link you shared for getting all the mp3 files. welldone. Please don't mind I am sharing the video link if he still wants something like that. Here that is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6e1Ku04rw Thanks sir, and also Sorry if I hurt you with this post of mine. Best Regards: Shyam On 11/18/13, O. Aishwarya oaishwa...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Thanks so much for that.:) On 11/18/13, tejas bendre tsben...@gmail.com wrote: Download all episode from following link in MP3 format. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7jxxvjtbl21vcd2/stxmvxg2Tq thanks tejas On 11/17/13, P L VARMA plvni...@gmail.com wrote: could u please provide link for the previous episode also November 9th. thanks. - Original Message - From: tejas bendre tsben...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:48 PM Subject: [AI] Nazar Ya Nazariya Full Episode 09 Employment Youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYb2MS8sRj8feature=c4-overviewlist=UUwvG0GX3D4S1p9lh2gQxUXg MP3 link http://www.sendspace.com/file/2s90nc size 7Mb Thanks TEJAS BENDRE Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- “I don’t believe in being serious about anything. I think life is too serious to be taken seriously.” —Ray Bradbury Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for
Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper?
This is also an accessibility question. I would really like to hear the answer to this question. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of shyam sharma Sent: 18 November 2013 18:22 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper? This mailing list is also for discussing TV shows and serials? Really! did not have so far any idea. Thanks. On 11/18/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: which is the channel and timing of comedy nights wth kapil? And for coffee with karan also? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Siddhi Desai Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:16 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] How to read cartoon in a news paper? On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree with Shyam Sir. Rather than reading cartoons just read the news. If you want something funny watch Comedy Nights With Kapil. There is no need for newspaper cartoons. Please take my remarks in a friendly manner. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com wrote: hello Sir, why you like to read cartoons? On 11/17/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends how can we understand the cartoon in a news paper with the help of jaws? Is the discribtion of cartoon available in the news paper? -- Mohib Anwar Rafel 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU. 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU Skype: mohibrafel Phone: 09811767506, 09211192333 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of
Re: [AI] GK Updates for october
On 11/18/13, Sasidar Babu b.shasidharb...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody! find GK Updates for october 2013 from below link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80304650/gk_updates_oct_2013.pdf -- with best regards sasidhar help ever, but hurt never contact details: mail id : b.shasidharb...@gmail.com facebook : https://www.facebook.com/shasidhar.babu Skype : b.shasidharbabu Twitter: https://twitter.com/BSasidharbabu mobile: +919620426784 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. thanks for sharing friend is there way that I can get it every month Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Sharing Einstein's voice
Hi friends, Have you heard Albert Einstein's voice? Listen to him after downloading from here: http://download.publicradio.org/podcast/speakingoffaith/playlist/einstein-commonlanguage.mp3?_kip_ipx=1936304054-1384795506 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Fwd: Readit Scholar HD
-- Forwarded message -- From: Sparsh Products sparshprodu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:50:26 +0530 Subject: Readit Scholar HD To: Sparsh Products sparshprodu...@gmail.com Sparsh Products, Dehradun presents Readit Scholar HD. It is the world's first A3 Instant Reader and Scanner for both closeup and distant objects. It also is a CCTV magnifier with Distance Self Viewing Magnifications. Features Readit Scholar HD features many benefits over other digital capture systems and even more over standard laptop / desktop video magnifiers: * Compact with a folded size of just 28 x 17 x 4.5cm (11 x 6.7 x 1.8 inches) * Set up for document capturing, the camera is just 36 cm tall (14.2 inches). * Automatic switching between close-up and distance viewing modes as the camera head is lifted. * 720p (1280x720 resolution) up to 60 fps via single USB 2.0 connection (Core i3 processor required for 60 fps live view at full resolution). * Open base design means it's easy to handwrite and read in the traditional video magnifier way, without the base getting in the way of the paper or book. * 16 MP sensor with A3 capture area down to 6pt text * Zoomed in, 4pt text can be captured and read with 100% accuracy. * 21x Optical zoom (larger than any other camera) * The camera is optically and digitally stabilised (a first for our industry) meaning the Scholar HD is far less prone to shake and wobble than any other product on the market. * The combination of the 16 MP sensor, 21x optical zoom, optical and digital stabilisation means it can perform OCR at distance (for whiteboards and projectors) further away than a human with 20:20 vision can see - this is a unique feature again. * Full whiteboard and projector screen capture for easy navigation with trackpad / mouse, removes the need for the end user to constantly track around the board by holding and repositioning the camera, even if OCR is not possible (on pictures or non computer based text). * Adjustable length, integrated USB cable - again this is unique. * Includes magnetic positioning guide with three positions: Storage, A4 (Letter), A3 (11 x 17) for easy positioning of documents for blind and well as low vision users. Find attached the product brochure. The video showing the demonstration of the product is given below: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dubzamouay7a8a/Readit-Scholar-HD-Demonstration%20 Video.webm The price of the product is Rs. 2,20,000/-, though high, but an ideal spent for any individual/organization considering the multifaceted benefits. In case of any query or information required please let us know. With regards, Sparsh _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Sparsh Products Committed to enable the disabled 151-5, Rajpur Road Dehradun 248 001, India Mobile: 9837088334 Ph/Fax: +91 135-2735011 Email: i...@sparshproducts.com sparshprodu...@gmail.com www.sparshproducts.com http://www.sparshproducts.com/ www.sparshbraille.com http://www.sparshbraille.com/ Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] WORKSHOP for young VI bankers by NAB Delhi
WORKSHOP ON EMPOWERING STRATEGIES FOR THE YOUNG VISUALLY IMPAIRED BANKERS Dated: December 14, 2013 Venue: NAB, Sector-V, R.K. Puram, New Delhi Background: During last five years public sector banks have recruited visually impaired employees in significant numbers. These employees are encountering challenges at their work place ranging from: 1. Inaccessibility of CBS package with screen reading software. 2. Non availability of assistive technology tools and software's. 3. Due to ill-informed in-charges, they are not assigned job profiles where they have least constraints. Present Scenario: Organizations working for blind people had taken initiatives to empower visually impaired bankers at their workplace but there is considerable scope that needs to be streamlined in this direction. It has been observed that many visually impaired persons after joining banks are EITHER not aware about job profiles that are suitable for them, or they succumb to the apprehensions of their colleagues who are not aware about the enabling technology available for the blind persons. Innovative Step: 1. The Assistive Technology helpline of the National Association for the Blind Delhi will conduct the first workshop in this series on 14th December2013 from 2.30 PM to 5.30 PM. Young Visually impaired bankers and IBPS qualified candidates are invited to participate in this workshop. 2. This interactive session on empowering strategies for young visually impaired bankers intents to provide a platform to share the opportunities available for visually impaired persons in banking sector. Who can attend? 1. Young visually impaired bankers who have joined the industry during the last five years. Please note that in this workshop we are focusing on the new entrants to the banking industry which are reported to be facing lot of challenges. 2. IBPS qualified candidates aspiring to join bank jobs. Line of Action: Demonstration and Discussion on following topics will be held in this interactive session 1. Possible job profiles for VI bankers 2. Challenges in different job profiles 3. Empowering tools. 4. Tips on accessing bank packages with screen reading software. 5. Overcoming barriers. 6. Success stories. Please register for this workshop before 7th December 2013 with the NAB Helpline by email or phone. There is no fee for participating in this workshop. No accommodation or reimbursement of travel expenses will be provided by NAB Delhi for this workshop. Please hurry, only 35 persons can be accommodated in this event. Highlights: The workshop will be facilitated by Dr. Ashwini Kumar Agarwal, MR. Prashant Ranjan Verma, (Joint secretary at NAB Delhi) and Mr. Rahul Gambhir. Dr. Agarwal has rose to the rank of chief manager with Punjab national bank and is associated with the bank since 1987 and presently posted at zonal training center as senior faculty. Mr. Verma is an expert in the area of accessibility and has provided solutions to many workplace challenges. Rahul Gambhir is assistant manager in union bank of India. He has innovated by making a presentation before the union bank of India faculty members to include UBI visually impaired staff in banking and facilitated a workshop on accessible banking in October 2013. More resource persons from the banking industry will be invited to provide their inputs. Contact: To register and for more information please contact: Assistive Technology Helpline National Association for the Blind Sector-5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022 Ph: 011 64556968 Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hi all, It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate. According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable with each other. Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite education imparted at these institutes. The information brochures for both the exams are located on their respective websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hi Karthik, How are you? I am fine. I tried calling you but I could not catch you yesterday. Can you send me your number on my personal email? Thank you so much for sharing this news. Although this is great news for some, in general, this is not helpful I believe. If you are allowed to bring your own scribe, then how can we make sure the real talent? For example, I can bring science student who was topper earlier and not study and make him or her write the entire exam. Let me tell you. In India many people who are passing out of M.A and PG's are not even qualified for plus2 level. They don't even know basic math. I have five of my employees who passed out of PG but they don't know basic additions. Without knowing anything, how did they pass out from a reputed university? This is because of own scribe. I feel like we are going back rather than going forward. I agree that the scribe should be from the same background but the scribe should be allotted by the examination center and scribe and the student should not have any previous contact other than one hour meeting before the exam if the student prefers. If I was given my own scribe, I would have made state rank in plus1 and 2. This is the same case with everyone. So I completely agree with you about the diagrams. They have to do something about it but own scribe idea is completely in favor of people who are taking the exam. Let me give you the example, most blind students are poor in solving algebraic or differential equations. Even I was pretty bad during my plus1. If you have own scribe, we end up just making him solve all math equations for us which is not fare. So I really advise organizations to fight for equal rights but not special favorable rights. I also was forced to help my class mates to pass public exams. For example, we were all put in a single room in the examination center. Then I use to circulate my answer sheet across the room for all my class mates to copy. This is the real situation with most blind schools. Why should be put in a single room illegally by corrupting the invigilators? Can't we go to our assigned centers? Why do we need this? Are we not capable? Can't we prove our own talent? If we always want special extra privileges, then we will never compete with main stream world. If we want sympathy and special extra privileges, we don't have right to blame mainstream society for not giving us equal opportunities. Of course you may score excellent and attend world class universities but there we will end up failing. Sadly, this is what is happening with employers. I forwarded many blind students to seamen's, Sysco and GE but many of them failed in the interview because they don't even have basic formalities and skills. When you look at the Resume, you see big degrees but the stuff is nil. Take my own case for example. Sadly, I had to fire two of my blind employees because they were not even able to count 25 pieces of products and pack in a plastic cover even after continuous months of training. Another example is, one of my employee is not able to tie a bundle with rope even after one month training. But do you know? Both of them cleared M.A and PG. do you think that education is useful for them? If they can't count even 20 numbers, who will give job for them? On the other hand, all these organizations will fight for equal rights in everytnbing. If people like these does not prove, who else will get an opportunity? So all, I request you to realize the reality and work accordingly. Sorry for being direct but this is out of real and practical experience. Regards, -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf of Kartik Sawhney Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi all, It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate. According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable with each other. Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test accessible. Further, JEE
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Don't worry. I have your number now -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi all, It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate. According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable with each other. Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite education imparted at these institutes. The information brochures for both the exams are located on their respective websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Bangalore
Dear Avinashji, Maybe we can help them but we don't know why they are begging though. They might not be interested to work rather beg. So we have to study them and the situations that lead to their begging. I have a friend who runs orphan home in Hyderabad. I can request him to admit these people there and then I can create employment opportunities in our company. if you can get me some details, then I might be able to help these people. thank you. Regards, -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:44 AM To: jnuvision; sayeverything Cc: accessindia Subject: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore Dear All Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do so. We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are forced to begg like them. Can we do anything for them? They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and singing in corus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind beggars live in groups then also inform me. --- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hi Srikanth, While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in competitive exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is utmost important, it's important that you've worked with the scribe for quite sometime in advance. consider this: you are not allowed the use of any assistive technology for scratch work, and you're trying to solve a question in linear algebra (say calculating the inverse of a matrix), it'll take a very long time explaining the scribe how the inverse is to be calculated. Instead, you would probably want to walk him through the process real quick, and since he's already worked with you on a similar problem, he can understand what you imply. Or, maybe, consider a question involving optical isomerism in Organic Chemistry, you would probably want the configuration to be described in a particular non-ambiguous way, rather than wasting your time trying to figure out how you want your scribe to explain that to you. To curve unfair means, it is invigilation which needs to be strengthened. Isn't that done to curve the use of unfair means for sighted students? Then, why not for us? I'm aware of the situation that you've described, and it is indeed deplorable. However, making such norms that inhibit genuine talent at the cost of trying to ensure a fair exam is not, in my view, the best way to go forward. Either we need to allow assistive technology to enable the blind student to take the test independently and just rely on the scribe to bubble the responses, or we need to provide the candidate with a comfortable atmosphere with strong invigilation. BTW, I, too, am totally against segregating blind students for the purposes of taking exams. Best, On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Don't worry. I have your number now -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi all, It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate. According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable with each other. Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite education imparted at these institutes. The information brochures for both the exams are located on their respective websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old
[AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hi Srikanth, While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in competitive exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is utmost important, it's important that you've worked with the scribe for quite sometime in advance. consider this: you are not allowed the use of any assistive technology for scratch work, and you're trying to solve a question in linear algebra (say calculating the inverse of a matrix), it'll take a very long time explaining the scribe how the inverse is to be calculated. Instead, you would probably want to walk him through the process real quick, and since he's already worked with you on a similar problem, he can understand what you imply. Or, maybe, consider a question involving optical isomerism in Organic Chemistry, you would probably want the configuration to be described in a particular non-ambiguous way, rather than wasting your time trying to figure out how you want your scribe to explain that to you. To curve unfair means, it is invigilation which needs to be strengthened. Isn't that done to curve the use of unfair means for sighted students? Then, why not for us? I'm aware of the situation that you've described, and it is indeed deplorable. However, making such norms that inhibit genuine talent at the cost of trying to ensure a fair exam is not, in my view, the best way to go forward. Either we need to allow assistive technology to enable the blind student to take the test independently and just rely on the scribe to bubble the responses, or we need to provide the candidate with a comfortable atmosphere with strong invigilation. BTW, I, too, am totally against segregating blind students for the purposes of taking exams. Best, On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Don't worry. I have your number now -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:34 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi all, It gives me immense pleasure to share with you that CBSE has amended its rule for Joint Entrance Examination (main), the entrance examination for most of the tech schools in the country (also a qualifying exam for the IITs). Until last year, the Board allowed a non-Science scribe (from Commerce (without Mathematics) or Humanities) stream, and that too from class XI (two years junior to the candidate). this had several issues, most notably that the scribe will not be familiar with the technical symbols on the test, and hence will not be able to convey those to the candidate. According to the information brochure for JEE Main 2014, there is no eligibility criteria for a scribe. Moreover, the candidate can opt to bring his/her own scribe. In case the candidate opts to use a scribe provided by the centre superintendent of the test centre, the superintendent needs to ensure that both the scribe and the candidate meet at least an hour before the examination to get comfortable with each other. Unfortunately, nothing has been done to make the diagrams on the test accessible. Further, JEE Advanced (the entrance exam for IITs), allows a Science student as a scribe, but from class XI. It also does not allow the candidate to brin his/her own scribe. Despite all of this, I feel we are close. I would urge the organisations working for the blind to take this forward, and help future Science aspirants get the benefits of the elite education imparted at these institutes. The information brochures for both the exams are located on their respective websites at http://jeemain.nic.in and http://jeeadv.iitd.ac.in. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old
Re: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind
Hi Bhavya, Just an advice: you do not need to reply every time someone replies to your post. for instance, messages like `thank you` or `now let's talk about xyz` should be avoided as it leads to unnecessary traffic. Instead, you may send a personal message to that person off the list. Cheers, On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, thanks still Imran Sir. On 11/18/13, syed imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now 26. Hth stands for hope that helps. I don't have their contact details On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Imran could you by any chance have the contact number of those blind TT players? Also, BTW what's your age? What is HTH? Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, syed imran syed.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bhavya I don't know if I remember it correctly. When I was studying in 4th grade in Sri Ramana Maha Rishi Academy for the Blind, I seemed to have observed a couple of blind fellows playing the game on a table. I don't know whether it was table-tennis or what but it felt to me as though an audible cricket ball was used in the game and I could hear the ball being rolled on the table. I think they were hitting with something that resembled a big wooden slate there were holding in their hands, standing at either end of the table. I think that was probably the tennis racket. It was a rectangular table and the players stood on either end with their rackets and when one player hit the ball, it would go rolling over to the opposite player, and when the opposite player hit the ball, it would come back rolling over again - so forth. Occasionally the ball would drop on the floor and people would cheer the fellow who hit it. So I assumed he scored 1 point over his opponent. As for me, I could only observe without asking any questions because to be honest, I wasn't supposed to be there – I had excused myself from a boring class. I didn't want to grab any attention on myself at that moment. hth Thanks Syed On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: I live in Mumbai, Maitreya Ma'am. Please tell me if there is a sports club in Mumbai. Regards Bhavya On 11/18/13, maitreya shah shah.maitrey...@gmail.com wrote: hi bhavya, the first question to you is where do u live ? means in which city ? because ,as much as i know , there are many sports clubs for blind players in various cities. and they can explain u in person. thanks , maitreya shah On 11/17/13, Rajpal rajpal...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it is possible and I think Mr. Mukesh Gautam can answer of all the questions raised by you. I would also request Mr. Gautam to reply of this mail. Acourding to me there is also a book regarding the sed subject Written by Mr. gautam and others. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind Hi, dear Access india mailing list friends. I am interested in learning and playing table tennis. I would appreciate if you answered the following questions. Q1. Can table tennis be played by the totally blind? Note: I am asking the next few questions presuming that table tennis is accessible. Q2. What modifications are there in the rules? Q3. What different equipment needs to be purchased for efficient table tennis by the blind? Where could I purchase them from? Q4. Could you make a video playing table tennis so I understand better because my sighted parents would explain me in person. I am eagerly waiting for good and enthusiastic responses. Any assistance or guidance would be really appreciated. Regards Bhavya Note: I know that I had posted a sports-related question some time ago but due to my mail being in digest mode I couldn't discuss. Now I resolved that issue. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Dear Karthik, I agree with you in terms of working out math or chemistry questions. But please remember, scribes duty is to verbatim read the question and take down the answer as you say but not imply in his own words. He is also not supposed to reread the question in simple words or explain you the situation in his or her own words. Do you know? We make mistakes just because we don't understand the way the question is formatted though we know the concept and the correct answer. This happens mainly in the coding. Implications can be in many ways. Even if I give him wrong final value but the process is correct, do you suggest that he should fix my final value by implying? Sited students will calculate the answer and mark on the answer sheet without scratch paper, so why not us in the mind? We can give the scribe final answer. If you tell the scribe to do the problem, he may make math error or if you have to calculate that problem, you might make simple math error which might get you wrong answer. Take your example, calculating the inverse of a 3/3 or above, the process is extremely simple but we end up making math errors due to lot of numbers. So this is something scribe cannot do for us. So indirectly, we are asking the scribe to solve a problem for us which is not fare. Since he worked with us before does not mean that he should imply that you know the answer and write. In nervousness and under time constraint, we end up making silly mistakes though we know the correct answer. So why scribe should fix those mistakes? When sited students don't have this competitive advantage of working with a person who knows the answers, then why us? If you give me this privilege, I can go and crack IIT-JE or gate or cat, or CA or IAS or ICW or any exam you can think of without any problem. I have people who went through these exams and did not clear or cleared. Since they know how to work on these exams, I can maybe hit top rank or at least clear without much of my talent. Do you think this is not possible? We are talking about being fare but how many people will use this opportunity fairly? If people are already using these kind of opportunities well, then why problems of getting job or competing with main stream society? I know many people who did not even go to college for one days but got 90%. Do you think this is possible? I do however; understand that the visual part is bad for us. for example, when I took SAT, globe detective agency administered the test. They sat with us for the entire duration of the test looking for the similarities of my answers and scribe's pen marks. So at least there should be someone proctoring the exam when own scribe is given or it should be videotaped to ensure fare exam. people can find 100 ways to miss use the opportunity. So before we make guidelines, we have to consider all possibilities. I just would like to remind that finding the invers of a matrix might be tricky for a blind person but it would be really easy since the sited student can see the numbers. I also propose that the question paper should be given in brail audio or in print. Then the students can choose to opt his or her preference. Then he or she should be able to record answers in to blank audio recorder. This way, he or she can walk through the entire process so that the valuators can consider even if the final answer is wrong. When we are talking about competitive exams like IIT, CA and CAT, most questions other than maybe few sections are multiple choice. So a student can be given a scribe for scribing the essay or writing part and remaining questions, the student has to answer. As I mentioned above, the definition of the scribe is to read questions verbatim as on the test paper. he or she is not supposed to explain. So when test paper is read by an experienced person in to audio tape or record, then that will be equal to a science or subject oriented scribe. If we don't make strict but fare accommodations, then people will continue to miss use. For example, as I mentioned, at MIT, I will not even know who the scribe is till I enter the room. then we have to turn the video recorder on before we begin the exam. we are not supposed to talk each other about test questions. Of course this is bit harsh but I believe this is fare. Regards, -Original Message- From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:35 PM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi Srikanth, While I agree with you for most part, I strongly feel that in competitive exams like IIT-JEE and other entrance exams where speed is utmost important, it's important that you've worked with the scribe for quite sometime in advance. consider this: you are not allowed the use of any assistive technology for scratch
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hi Srikanth, I may point out that the sighted students have the privilege of using a scratch paper for Mathematical computations. These exams do not just involve an OMR sheet, but provide you a lot of space for rough work throughout the test booklet. If sighted are allowed to perform scratch work, then there should not be a problem to have blind students do the same. Personally, I cannot keep track of a 4×4 matrix, its transpose, cofactor matrix and then the inverse in my mind (and so cannot the brightest student in my class). I need someone to keep record of these for me, especially since I have no tools or assistive technology. When a sighted studet is not expected to keep track of these values, then why should a blind student be expected to do so? Also, your definition of scribe is rather narrow. If you look up the definition of scribe (the ETS version which is followed for the conduct of the SAT test), you will realize that it permits scratch work in the absence of other tools. Also, realize that there is a difference in rephrasing a question, solving a question and keeping track of the intermediate steps. the first two are absolutely unacceptable, but the last should be absolutely fine. Further, we need to be very clear about the objective of the test in question. The IIT-JEE does not seek to measure your proficiency at calculations (6th grade exams are good for that); it seeks to measure your conceptual ability. Having someone calculate 4×6.022×10^23/6.626×10^-34×3×10^8 in the absence of taylor frame or spreadsheet application is fine in my view. However, the scribe plugging in those values without the candidate asking him to do so may be construed as unfair. Of course, the ideal mode will be to have the exam in Braille, E-text or audio (fortunately, that's slowly happening; I took my Board exams using a computer without a scribe). Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Karthik, I agree with you in terms of working out math or chemistry questions. But please remember, scribes duty is to verbatim read the question and take down the answer as you say but not imply in his own words. He is also not supposed to reread the question in simple words or explain you the situation in his or her own words. Do you know? We make mistakes just because we don't understand the way the question is formatted though we know the concept and the correct answer. This happens mainly in the coding. Implications can be in many ways. Even if I give him wrong final value but the process is correct, do you suggest that he should fix my final value by implying? Sited students will calculate the answer and mark on the answer sheet without scratch paper, so why not us in the mind? We can give the scribe final answer. If you tell the scribe to do the problem, he may make math error or if you have to calculate that problem, you might make simple math error which might get you wrong answer. Take your example, calculating the inverse of a 3/3 or above, the process is extremely simple but we end up making math errors due to lot of numbers. So this is something scribe cannot do for us. So indirectly, we are asking the scribe to solve a problem for us which is not fare. Since he worked with us before does not mean that he should imply that you know the answer and write. In nervousness and under time constraint, we end up making silly mistakes though we know the correct answer. So why scribe should fix those mistakes? When sited students don't have this competitive advantage of working with a person who knows the answers, then why us? If you give me this privilege, I can go and crack IIT-JE or gate or cat, or CA or IAS or ICW or any exam you can think of without any problem. I have people who went through these exams and did not clear or cleared. Since they know how to work on these exams, I can maybe hit top rank or at least clear without much of my talent. Do you think this is not possible? We are talking about being fare but how many people will use this opportunity fairly? If people are already using these kind of opportunities well, then why problems of getting job or competing with main stream society? I know many people who did not even go to college for one days but got 90%. Do you think this is possible? I do however; understand that the visual part is bad for us. for example, when I took SAT, globe detective agency administered the test. They sat with us for the entire duration of the test looking for the similarities of my answers and scribe's pen marks. So at least there should be someone proctoring the exam when own scribe is given or it should be videotaped to ensure fare exam. people can find 100 ways to miss use the opportunity. So before we make
Re: [AI] Regarding e-newspaper
Is there any marathi news pepper also wich can send me marathi mail news wich is to be accessible with e5mobile? On 11/18/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Prasanth Sir, couldn't The Hindu send me e-mails with all the news daily? On 11/18/13, Prasanth P.V. prasanth.mangala...@gmail.com wrote: the hindu is good. If you subscribed to their epaper, you can access their epaper daily from their webcite thehindu.com On 11/17/13, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, dear Access India mailing list friends. Is there any e-newspaper which after subscription sends me an e-mail daily, enlightening me about the current affairs. Currently, I am subscribed to Times Of India but it has very few news and every news has to be clicked on to get a very small complete story. I would prefer the newspaper to have lots of articles just like the sighted newspapers on various subjects. I would also like the articles to be detailed and not extremely curt. Regards Bhavya Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Prasanth. True friendship consists not innmultitude of friends, but in their worth and value Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Thank you and good luck! Surendra Salgaonkar Phone:02226473918 +919867645933 Emails salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com office surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in skype salgaonkarskype Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Dear Karthik, I am not here to test the remembering abilities of blind people. Even I cannot remember multiple math steps in my mind. For that matter, I will trouble my scribe to read again and again when it comes to long messy equations. I am sorry. Maybe I was not clear enough. Yes you are absolutely right. Scribe can track your intermediary steps and read them back to you any number of times but the scribe is not supposed to perform calculations on your behalf unless you tell specifics. In my view, scribe should not perform simple math calculation you quoted as that can be done by a blind person in the presence of a tailor frame. I do understand that IIT or other exams may not test you long calculations but if they do, there is a reason and every student is expected to perform those calculations on own. So I am not sure whether I agree with your statement which says that thee simple and long calculations can be done by the scribe. So I feel organizations should work with the examination boards to allow assistive technology with high security measures. Then wherever sited students are doing scratch work or small calculations, blind person can do them on the assistive technology. For example you might tell him to write down 1/2*5/7 but you may not tell him the final answer so the scribe should be able to ask you for the answer and not imply just because he or she worked with you previously. Of course where ever there is opportunity for scratch work, then blind students should be given to take tailor frame or computer with imposed restrictions. I know we are talking about specifics but lets come back to the big picture. I quoted number of problems of having an own scribe. So can you please site reasons for requesting own scribe if the examination center can provide scribe from the same subject background and can facilitate one hour previous interaction before the exam? You are a great man Karthik. You are an inspiration for real hard working blind people in India. I am amazed by your use of computer from the first standard. People like you should strive to convince examination boards to allow assistive technology or accessible tactile tools so that they can create fare experience for blind student. Finally, own scribe is a bad idea according to me. By the way, can you please explain how you were able to use computer? For example, did you go through any security checks before the exam or did they give you the computer? -Original Message- From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 4:53 PM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi Srikanth, I may point out that the sighted students have the privilege of using a scratch paper for Mathematical computations. These exams do not just involve an OMR sheet, but provide you a lot of space for rough work throughout the test booklet. If sighted are allowed to perform scratch work, then there should not be a problem to have blind students do the same. Personally, I cannot keep track of a 4×4 matrix, its transpose, cofactor matrix and then the inverse in my mind (and so cannot the brightest student in my class). I need someone to keep record of these for me, especially since I have no tools or assistive technology. When a sighted studet is not expected to keep track of these values, then why should a blind student be expected to do so? Also, your definition of scribe is rather narrow. If you look up the definition of scribe (the ETS version which is followed for the conduct of the SAT test), you will realize that it permits scratch work in the absence of other tools. Also, realize that there is a difference in rephrasing a question, solving a question and keeping track of the intermediate steps. the first two are absolutely unacceptable, but the last should be absolutely fine. Further, we need to be very clear about the objective of the test in question. The IIT-JEE does not seek to measure your proficiency at calculations (6th grade exams are good for that); it seeks to measure your conceptual ability. Having someone calculate 4×6.022×10^23/6.626×10^-34×3×10^8 in the absence of taylor frame or spreadsheet application is fine in my view. However, the scribe plugging in those values without the candidate asking him to do so may be construed as unfair. Of course, the ideal mode will be to have the exam in Braille, E-text or audio (fortunately, that's slowly happening; I took my Board exams using a computer without a scribe). Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Karthik, I agree with you in terms of working out math
[AI] regarding the mobile number
hi list members this is sreenivas from khammam goodmorning to you all friends i need the mobile number of srikanth bala sir can any one tell me please send my personal email to suns@gmail.com this number is very much needed to me please send me as soon as possible thanking you best regards. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] regarding the mobile number
Hi sreenivas, I am Srikanth Bolla. Please let me know why do you need my number. you give me your number and AI will call you. regards, -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sreenivas choudari Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:24 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] regarding the mobile number hi list members this is sreenivas from khammam goodmorning to you all friends i need the mobile number of srikanth bala sir can any one tell me please send my personal email to suns@gmail.com this number is very much needed to me please send me as soon as possible thanking you best regards. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] nvda and connecting to server using remote desktop connection
That's great! You need to hit the ENTER key or SPACEBAR to complete the remote login process. When logged in, it may play the login sound depending on the server setting. If NVDA is set to automatically start then it should launch by now. To launch NVDA manually, open the server's Run window, type NVDA and hit the ENTER key. On 11/18/13, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: hi Zujar now I got a new sound card for my server I connected my headphones to the card and connected it to server and it works but when I use mstsc with the settings that u told it doesn't work I hear nvda say input capture window as I click on connect and that's it so what do I need to do after nvda says input capture window? On 11/9/13, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote: Check the setting for Remote Audio in the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box. To do so: 1. In the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box, press the TAB key as many times as required to navigate to the Options button (shortcut: ALT+O). 2. Navigate to the Local Resources tab page by pressing CTRL+TAB as many times as required. 3. Activate the Settings button in the Remote Audio group (shortcut: ALT+S). 4. Select the radio button labelled Play on this computer in the Remote Audio Playback group (shortcut: ALT+P) and activate the OK button. Back to the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box, specify the connection details on the General tab page of the dialog box and connect. When connected, NVDA should sstart automatically if you have ticked the check box to do so. If it doesn't start then you can type NVDA in the Run window of the server and launch it. Note that the Start menu of the server can be opened with ALT+HOME if it doesn't open with the WINDOWSS key. Feel free to revert with queries if any. On 11/8/13, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: hi all. please excuse me as this topic is as confusing to right as it is to use. in my office i have a laptop with a sound card and nvda installed and everything working properly today i was given a task to connect to my office server now hear comes the problem what i was told to do is press windows r and type mstsc i dont know what it is and anything but i did what was told then in the computer name i had to put my servers ip address and connect and it asked me for a user name and password i put it and connected then all nvda said is remote desktop connection to xxx.xxx.x.xxx (server ip address) imput capture window and after that no sound no matter what i do then i thought may be nvda is not installed on the server so i dont get any sound so i and my boss went and installed nvda on the server but again after i came to my laptop and tried no sound then my boss told me that there is no sound card installed on server and its a ibm server is that the cause of no sound when i do a remote connection to my server? or do i need to do some settings to nvda -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards, Zujar... An optimist laughs to forget, whereas a pessimist forgets to laugh! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut..
Re: [AI] nvda and connecting to server using remote desktop connection
hi when I login I get a error access denied the inishial program nvda couldnot start if I click on ok the connection closes On 11/19/13, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote: That's great! You need to hit the ENTER key or SPACEBAR to complete the remote login process. When logged in, it may play the login sound depending on the server setting. If NVDA is set to automatically start then it should launch by now. To launch NVDA manually, open the server's Run window, type NVDA and hit the ENTER key. On 11/18/13, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: hi Zujar now I got a new sound card for my server I connected my headphones to the card and connected it to server and it works but when I use mstsc with the settings that u told it doesn't work I hear nvda say input capture window as I click on connect and that's it so what do I need to do after nvda says input capture window? On 11/9/13, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote: Check the setting for Remote Audio in the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box. To do so: 1. In the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box, press the TAB key as many times as required to navigate to the Options button (shortcut: ALT+O). 2. Navigate to the Local Resources tab page by pressing CTRL+TAB as many times as required. 3. Activate the Settings button in the Remote Audio group (shortcut: ALT+S). 4. Select the radio button labelled Play on this computer in the Remote Audio Playback group (shortcut: ALT+P) and activate the OK button. Back to the Remote Desktop Connection dialog box, specify the connection details on the General tab page of the dialog box and connect. When connected, NVDA should sstart automatically if you have ticked the check box to do so. If it doesn't start then you can type NVDA in the Run window of the server and launch it. Note that the Start menu of the server can be opened with ALT+HOME if it doesn't open with the WINDOWSS key. Feel free to revert with queries if any. On 11/8/13, austin pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: hi all. please excuse me as this topic is as confusing to right as it is to use. in my office i have a laptop with a sound card and nvda installed and everything working properly today i was given a task to connect to my office server now hear comes the problem what i was told to do is press windows r and type mstsc i dont know what it is and anything but i did what was told then in the computer name i had to put my servers ip address and connect and it asked me for a user name and password i put it and connected then all nvda said is remote desktop connection to xxx.xxx.x.xxx (server ip address) imput capture window and after that no sound no matter what i do then i thought may be nvda is not installed on the server so i dont get any sound so i and my boss went and installed nvda on the server but again after i came to my laptop and tried no sound then my boss told me that there is no sound card installed on server and its a ibm server is that the cause of no sound when i do a remote connection to my server? or do i need to do some settings to nvda -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards, Zujar... An optimist laughs to forget, whereas a pessimist forgets to laugh! Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hi Srikanth, CBSE provided their own computer during the Board examinations alongwith two invigilators-they kind of overdid it in my view, but it is okay. As far as the problem with the exam centre providing their own scribe goes, I will quote a personal experience. When I took the National level Science Talent Search Examination back in 2011, I was given a scribe from class X. When it came to describing diagrams as no tactile diagrams were provided, he tried his level best, but was unable to explain most of the diagrams. Similarly, a question involved working with finding the hybridization of various carbon atoms. That was perhaps the simplest question on the test, but I lost points because he could not convey the structure to me. We've got to agree that some people are good at describing stuff, while the others are not. It shouldn't be the fault of the candidate if the scribe is not a good describer, right? Also, working together for six hours is not something that easy. My instructions should be understood by the scribe as quickly as possible, as any delay is my loss. What if a thing as simple as read the element a2,2 may be misinterpreted by the scribe? You don't have time during the test to explain him how the matrix terminology works. Or, consider e-z stereo isomers. Sometimes, it becomes important to use appropriate terminology to convey things, otherwise it might become difficult to complete the exam within the stipulated time. Of course, situation in the United States is pretty different. All the testing agencies provide you verbal descriptions and tactile graphics, while also allowing assistive technology, thus eliminating the need of having a scribe of your own choice. If assistive technology is permited, then for sure, the choice of bringing in your own scribe is an unreasonable one. However, until that happens, it is immportant that this choice be available. Another pragmatic alternative could be creation of a pool of scribes, so that if one does not work, the other could be tried. This, again, looks hard to implement in the near future (authorities manage to get one scribe after so much difficulty that a pool seems out of question). At the same time, I don't understand the reservations in strengthening invigilation and allowing any scribe. Why not record the entire test session and review it (as happens at MIT)? Why not seat the scribe and the candidate in such a way that no communication can go unnoticed (this happened with me once)? If this cannot be done, either because of callousness on the part of the invigilator or because of some other reason, then I am sorry to say that the entire concept of invigilation is flawed. The only thing that I am stressing is that I wouldn't want a single genuinely talented student to lose out because of any arbitrary norms or lack of appropriate accommodations. A test is a platform to showcase your abilities; I wouldn't want anything to be a hindrance for a blind student. Another interesting point worth taking into account: allowing assistive technology may not be as simple as one may think. IITs submitted that they were trying to get tactile graphics ready for JEE Advanced 2013 in August 2012. They continued to maintain the same stand even in April 2013. Finally, they submitted that it will be hard to implement owing to security considerations. On 11/18/13, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Karthik, I am not here to test the remembering abilities of blind people. Even I cannot remember multiple math steps in my mind. For that matter, I will trouble my scribe to read again and again when it comes to long messy equations. I am sorry. Maybe I was not clear enough. Yes you are absolutely right. Scribe can track your intermediary steps and read them back to you any number of times but the scribe is not supposed to perform calculations on your behalf unless you tell specifics. In my view, scribe should not perform simple math calculation you quoted as that can be done by a blind person in the presence of a tailor frame. I do understand that IIT or other exams may not test you long calculations but if they do, there is a reason and every student is expected to perform those calculations on own. So I am not sure whether I agree with your statement which says that thee simple and long calculations can be done by the scribe. So I feel organizations should work with the examination boards to allow assistive technology with high security measures. Then wherever sited students are doing scratch work or small calculations, blind person can do them on the assistive technology. For example you might tell him to write down 1/2*5/7 but you may not tell him the final answer so the scribe should be able to ask you for the answer and not imply just because he or she worked with you previously. Of course where ever there is opportunity for scratch work, then blind students should be given to take tailor frame or
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board. This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology. That is why we are requesting the scribe from the same background. Scribe can be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the student. Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint. So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To overcome miss communication or terminology errors, center should arrange proctor who will oversee the exam. That Procter should be from the concerned subject. Then if the scribe has any questions. they can refer to the proctor. Finally, I don't understand officials view. They said providing a tactile graphics is a security concern but don't they think allowing own scribe is even worse? Thank you. Regards, ---Original Message- From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:44 PM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi Srikanth, CBSE provided their own computer during the Board examinations alongwith two invigilators-they kind of overdid it in my view, but it is okay. As far as the problem with the exam centre providing their own scribe goes, I will quote a personal experience. When I took the National level Science Talent Search Examination back in 2011, I was given a scribe from class X. When it came to describing diagrams as no tactile diagrams were provided, he tried his level best, but was unable to explain most of the diagrams. Similarly, a question involved working with finding the hybridization of various carbon atoms. That was perhaps the simplest
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Guys, You both are certainly wasting time. I'm reading through each and every email on this thread and making my notes. In fact, I am planning to get in touch with authorities in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh to see if we can change the scenario here. Also, Karthik, it's sad that we couldn't follow-up with IIIT before you move to the United States. Srikanth, let's talk sometime. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets Sent from my iPhone 4S On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:52, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board. This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology. That is why we are requesting the scribe from the same background. Scribe can be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the student. Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint. So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To overcome miss communication or terminology errors, center should arrange proctor who will oversee the exam. That Procter should be from the concerned subject. Then if the scribe has any questions. they can refer to the proctor. Finally, I don't understand officials view. They said providing a tactile graphics is a security concern but don't they think allowing own scribe is even worse? Thank you. Regards, ---Original Message- From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:44 PM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Hi Srikanth, CBSE provided their
[AI] Need information on stock trading platforms and accessable softwares for technical analysis
Hello friends I would like to have some information on how can we track the markets and try investing? Which trading platforms are accessable with Jaws? How do we get constant update on the market movements and how our stock is performing? In web sites like money control.com, the web page gets refreshed on a constant basis and the actual content in the page gets very difficult to navigate to. Besides, are there any tools for technical analysis that are accessable with Jaws? If anybody in the list is actively investing in the markets, I would like to get in touch with him/her for initial guidance. Of course off the list. Thanks and regards Jairam Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Hello Srinivasuji, Owe, owe, we did not mean to waste our time. though we are so busy, we spent writing and expressed points to create that awareness. Anyway, thanks so much for your email and I look forward to talking to you sometime. thank you. regards, -Original Message- From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:11 AM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Cc: Kartik Sawhney; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Guys, You both are certainly wasting time. I'm reading through each and every email on this thread and making my notes. In fact, I am planning to get in touch with authorities in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh to see if we can change the scenario here. Also, Karthik, it's sad that we couldn't follow-up with IIIT before you move to the United States. Srikanth, let's talk sometime. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets Sent from my iPhone 4S On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:52, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board. This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology. That is why we are requesting the scribe from the same background. Scribe can be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the student. Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint. So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To overcome miss communication or
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Oops. My bad. I meant you guys are certainly not wasting time. Typo. Sorry about that. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets Sent from my iPhone 4S On 19-Nov-2013, at 11:01, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Srinivasuji, Owe, owe, we did not mean to waste our time. though we are so busy, we spent writing and expressed points to create that awareness. Anyway, thanks so much for your email and I look forward to talking to you sometime. thank you. regards, -Original Message- From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:11 AM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Cc: Kartik Sawhney; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Guys, You both are certainly wasting time. I'm reading through each and every email on this thread and making my notes. In fact, I am planning to get in touch with authorities in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh to see if we can change the scenario here. Also, Karthik, it's sad that we couldn't follow-up with IIIT before you move to the United States. Srikanth, let's talk sometime. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @VasuTweets Sent from my iPhone 4S On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:52, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board. This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology. That is why we are requesting the scribe from the same background.
[AI] need help for preparing mobility terminology in English-Kannada dictionary
Dear all, we all aware that the government do not know about our mobility terminologies. So I am planning to prepare mobility terminology dictionary in English-Kannada. I am requesting you to prepare in your language also. I hope this dictionary may help to remove barrier between our mobility terminologies and department of road transport. I planned to include some pictures which we use some techniques daily such as sighted guide, sure line, and so on In this dictionary. recently young voices Bangalore shot a documentary on road hardships with regard to disabled contest. Please help in it. with hope, Srinivasamurthy B G, mo: 9035911023 blog: www.samaajakkaagi.blogspot.com Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding table tennis for the blind
To throw some more light on this, All Visually-challenged games are under-net games. Table-tennis is not a exemption for that. Ball is of thin plastic with ball-res inside. The tennis rocket is made up of cushion on a wooden board with handle. Net would be in rexin material. Table-tennis rules are same for the VI persons; But, must played under-net. The ball must push the cushion to reach the other side. The net have cuts like we do have in Ladies' tops or Pijamas. The net must not touch the table, but must be very close to it. No videos found for your query. Only tennis videos available. With care and regards, Kannan ... Skype: kankale63 On 11/17/2013 6:20 PM, Bhavya shah wrote: Hi, dear Access india mailing list friends. I am interested in learning and playing table tennis. I would appreciate if you answered the following questions. Q1. Can table tennis be played by the totally blind? Note: I am asking the next few questions presuming that table tennis is accessible. Q2. What modifications are there in the rules? Q3. What different equipment needs to be purchased for efficient table tennis by the blind? Where could I purchase them from? Q4. Could you make a video playing table tennis so I understand better because my sighted parents would explain me in person. I am eagerly waiting for good and enthusiastic responses. Any assistance or guidance would be really appreciated. Regards Bhavya Note: I know that I had posted a sports-related question some time ago but due to my mail being in digest mode I couldn't discuss. Now I resolved that issue. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Bangalore
Why can't the associations like Dhivyajyothi and others must give some kind of Work oriented trainings for those who are interested? Mostly, these kind of people don't like to go for work. If that is the case, We can support them to get goods to sale on trains or in bus-stands. To eradicate them completely, We can suggest the orphanages to take care of them. With care and regards, Kannan ... Skype: kankale63 On 11/19/2013 1:47 AM, Srikanth Bolla wrote: Dear Avinashji, Maybe we can help them but we don't know why they are begging though. They might not be interested to work rather beg. So we have to study them and the situations that lead to their begging. I have a friend who runs orphan home in Hyderabad. I can request him to admit these people there and then I can create employment opportunities in our company. if you can get me some details, then I might be able to help these people. thank you. Regards, -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:44 AM To: jnuvision; sayeverything Cc: accessindia Subject: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore Dear All Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to do so. We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are forced to begg like them. Can we do anything for them? They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food and singing in corus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national Indian Magazine. Please if you know any locality in Delhi where blind beggars live in groups then also inform me. --- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the exam is non-scince subjects, literature based? Please think twice. A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats I think this suffices to explain my point. So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe. Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often than not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Bolla Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM To: 'Kartik Sawhney' Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board. This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the diagram but not explain in his own words. This will avoid the images problem. Asking alternative questions for diagrams is also kind of an excuse in my view. I do understand the miss interpretations of terminology. That is why we are requesting the scribe from the same background. Scribe can be bit higher level than you but the scribe should not be known to the student. Another problem is that scribe's slow writing and time constraint. So I strongly recommend that double time should be given for each exam. To overcome miss communication or terminology errors, center should arrange proctor who will oversee the exam. That Procter should be from the concerned subject. Then if the scribe has any questions. they can refer to the proctor. Finally, I don't understand officials view. They said providing a tactile graphics is a security concern but don't they think allowing own scribe is even worse? Thank you. Regards, ---Original Message- From: Kartik Sawhney [mailto:sawhney.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:44 PM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines
HI, We did not mean we need own scribe for science subjects. I made a comparison saying that for non-science subjects, there is no need for own scribe. Of course, you may request scribe from the center with same background but even that same background is not needed to write eats or any other words. If you think the scribe is making mistake, you are supposed to spell the words. In fact, it's not scribes duty to write correct spellings. Scribe has all rights to ask you to spell anything that is not clear. So this is why, we should all promote the use of computers to take exams. Or we can use recorders to record answers. I hope this will help you understand. But I am again reiterating that requesting own scribe in many case is just to escape and pass out. Regards, -Original Message- From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in ] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:37 AM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: RE: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the exam is non-scince subjects, literature based? Please think twice. A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats I think this suffices to explain my point. So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe. Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often than not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Bolla Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM To: 'Kartik Sawhney' Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and take down scratch work as you say. So to overcome this problem, tactile diagrams should be provided. Do you know we have pressure sensitive plastic paper and the rubber boards? The tool is called draftsman tactile board. This is wonderful to draw images on the spot. Each student should be given or allowed to carry these kinds of boards to the exam. Then the scribe can draw the diagram given on the test paper instantly and lead you to feel the diagram but not
Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines
Some how I also agree with bala sir, doing exam on the computer give any vi students independent. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Bolla Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:32 PM To: 'Asudani, Rajesh'; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility andissues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEEMain guidelines HI, We did not mean we need own scribe for science subjects. I made a comparison saying that for non-science subjects, there is no need for own scribe. Of course, you may request scribe from the center with same background but even that same background is not needed to write eats or any other words. If you think the scribe is making mistake, you are supposed to spell the words. In fact, it's not scribes duty to write correct spellings. Scribe has all rights to ask you to spell anything that is not clear. So this is why, we should all promote the use of computers to take exams. Or we can use recorders to record answers. I hope this will help you understand. But I am again reiterating that requesting own scribe in many case is just to escape and pass out. Regards, -Original Message- From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in ] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:37 AM To: presidentsrika...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: RE: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Well, not writing a detailed reply but why do you need own scribe if the exam is non-scince subjects, literature based? Please think twice. A scribe always wrote Yeast, when I said, Yeats I think this suffices to explain my point. So, science is not the only subject requiring your own scribe. Wavelength matters and no authority can impose scribe on us, more often than not, they impose utterly inefficient scribes. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Bolla Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:53 AM To: 'Kartik Sawhney' Cc: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Good news for blind engineering aspirants-changes in JEE Main guidelines Dear Karthik, I am thrilled to get your detailed perspective on this problem. I hope we both are not the only once writing back and forth and maybe wasting time on this subject. Nice to know that CBSC gave their own computer and invigilation. Sorry they did over in your case. Maybe this might be the first time so it's just due to lack of awareness. Let me point out your concern that no talented student should miss out the opportunity due to lack of accommodations I am also 100% with you on this. Personally, I lost so much due to lack of proper accommodations in science subjects. Even I don't want any talented student to get hindered by the discriminatory procedures, however, I strictly don't want any unqualified student to pass out the exams with the help from scribes. Talented students struggling are rare but unqualified and unskilled people getting 100's are seen in high percentage. Of course people on this list might debate on this point but once own consciousness will tell the truth. Personally, I know unqualified people passing out with more than 80%. Don't you think this is bad? I 100% agree with your point of recording the entire session and allow own scribe. Then since there will be video and audio, student and the scribe will have very less chance to cheat. Recording the session also can bring out valid questions or concerns from both parties. Then concern authorities can review and make necessary accommodations in the education curriculum or in the examination system. I know all this will not happen overnight but before we ask for own scribe, we have to bring out these points. Everyone should be aware that bringing own scribe means carrying extra responsibilities. Some of the specific questions we are talking are more for science students. But in India for everything people are requesting own scribes. For example, do you think bank exams or IAS or other groups or teacher entrance involve any scientific notations? I don't think so. If I am wrong, people can correct me. If the exam is mainly literature based, then why do you need your own scribe? Same with other non-science subjects. For nonscience subjects, you don't even need scribe from the same background but I can take that easy. But I completely oppose the idea of own scribe. Getting own scribe is simply an excuse to pass without working for it. Mainly, assistive technology should be permitted rather than own scribe. I don't think explaining about the diagram or the molecular model is the duty of the scribe. Again, scribe's duty is to read the question as given on the test paper and record answers and
