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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
related to our blindness.
Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
blindness.
When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
of blind partner.

On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional
> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
> India.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> "Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such
> friendships will never give you any happiness."
>- Chanakya
>
> "There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no
> friendship
> without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."
>- Chanakya
>
> both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is
a
> social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to
> satisfy their physical and emotional desires.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "aditi shah" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM
> Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>> Hi there everyone,
>> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
>> expressing my views as well.
>>
>> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
>> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
>> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
>> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
>> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
>> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
>> socializing, etc.
>> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
>> lifestyle one has.
>> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
>> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
>> skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
>> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
>> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
>> economically or intellectuall

Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-02 Thread mukesh jain

i fully agree that instead of finding solution for self problems, we
must fight for the accessibility and I am ready to do any possible if
you suggest any particular action to be taken at our end.

I was just finding the temporary  solution just not to miss my train
on the scheduled date. so honestly speaking, I am happy to fight for
our own cause in the right direction, so kindly suggest.
thanks,


On 7/2/14, KanchanPamnani  wrote:
> There is already one Petition pending in the BombayHigh Court.
> Yourmatter is also pending before CCPD- what happened you had a date in
> June? Kanchan
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:26
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online
>
> we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to make
> all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution,  they
> have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will join
>
> us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online
>
>
>> hello,
>> EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
>> TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
>> their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
>> customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
>> new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
>> as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
>> this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
>> available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
>> forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
>> plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
>> all.
>>
>> before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
>> could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
>> the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.
>>
>> so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar
>> field?
>> thanks,
>>
>> On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
>>> needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?
>>>
>>> I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
>>> but to no avail.
>>> Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
>>> when I click on "graphic calendar link."
>>>
>>> Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
>>> calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.
>>>
>>> Will be a great cue to save my time.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Thank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --- --- ---
>>>
>>> "The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention,
>>> But it is the current beneath the water that determines your
>>> direction..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mukesh jain
>> Email:
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>> master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. "
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You are very right!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
> related to our blindness.
> Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
> have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
> in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
> are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
> of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
> quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
> if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
> show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
> Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
> successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
> I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
> because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
> in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
> blindness.
> When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
> ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
> of blind partner.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
>> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
>> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
>> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
>> emotional
>> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
>> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
>> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
>> India.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of bhawani shankar verma
>> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> "Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status.
>> Such
>> friendships will never give you any happiness."
>>- Chanakya
>>
>> "There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no
>> friendship
>> without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."
>>- Chanakya
>>
>> both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is
> a
>> soci

Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-02 Thread Kanchan Pamnani

Mukesh, I had mentioned in an earlier email on the issue of online bookings 
that we should flood the ministry with our query. No one except Bhiwani 
responded. Lets go after them -each one of us has a voice. I dont run an NGO 
nor can I convince any of them to do anything but I have always relied on 
the strength of individuals and accessindia is the best place to discuss it 
and Accessindia members have the strength of numbers. People have forgotten 
or do not believe in history-Before I got the 2008 circular from RBI we had 
flooded the email boxes of the right people at the RBI. They realised the 
problem because it was continuous. It was not the work of any NGO. It was 
collective work.
I only suggested sending hardcopies to the railway ministry because I dont 
know how savvy they are with technology- I knew the RBI handled emails well 
even in 2006-2007.


There are two different issues-one is about online bookings with concession 
and the other is about the website being generally inaccessible and we have 
to approach both these issues properly.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



i fully agree that instead of finding solution for self problems, we
must fight for the accessibility and I am ready to do any possible if
you suggest any particular action to be taken at our end.

I was just finding the temporary  solution just not to miss my train
on the scheduled date. so honestly speaking, I am happy to fight for
our own cause in the right direction, so kindly suggest.
thanks,


On 7/2/14, KanchanPamnani  wrote:

There is already one Petition pending in the BombayHigh Court.
Yourmatter is also pending before CCPD- what happened you had a date in
June? Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 02 July 2014 07:26
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to 
make
all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution, 
they
have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will 
join


us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.

- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



hello,
EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
all.

before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar
field?
thanks,

On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
but to no avail.
Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
when I click on "graphic calendar link."

Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

Will be a great cue to save my time.

Thanks
Thank





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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well said Ishita.
Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise 
are rare..

Please remember beggars are not choosers



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You are very right!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
> related to our blindness.
> Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
> have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
> in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
> are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
> of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
> quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
> if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
> show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
> Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
> successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
> I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
> because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
> in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
> blindness.
> When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
> ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
> of blind partner.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
>> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
>> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
>> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
>> emotional
>> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
>> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
>> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
>> India.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of bhawani shankar verma
>> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disab

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

very true rajesh sir,
compromise or rare.
you summed up properly which i couldn't

On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Well said Ishita.
> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
> compromise are rare..
>
> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
> valid.
> I have 40 percent vision.
> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
> dream unless he has social or economical problems.
> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
> any girl in able bodied world,
> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
> Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
> And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
> Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
> aspects
> I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
> The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
> And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
> saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
> to tariff kar saku.
> I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
> youngsters that please don’t do this.
> Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
> ya chahti hun.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> You are very right!
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
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>> Behalf
>> Of Zoher Kheriwala
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
>> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
>> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
>> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
>> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
>> related to our blindness.
>> Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
>> have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
>> in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
>> are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
>> of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
>> quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
>> if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
>> show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
>> Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
>> successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
>> I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
>> because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
>> in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
>> blindness.
>> When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
>> ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
>> of blind partner.
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
>>> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be
>>> some
>>> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end.
>>> A
>>> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
>>> emotional
>>> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
>>> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
>>> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on
>

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I 
am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone 
should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at all! But I am not 
blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are 
conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or 
legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we 
are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness  that determines the 
criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, 
personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should 
not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to 
marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said 
that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have 
happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at 
these cases, it is very encouraging  and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share 
our positive experiences,  young intelligent women like you  may look at this 
subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become 
desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do 
you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make 
it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and  get to know 
each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you 
have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to 
you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter  develop our 
hidden potentials and give away much more of ourselves to this beautiful world. 
We can continue to grow in every way; and carve out  a great life for us!
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You are very right!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

dear kanchan madam,
osama bin laden  didn't have blind parents.
You have generalized simple coincidence

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> same is applicable on sighted parents.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amar Jain
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:30 AM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
>
> partners
>
> My idea of asking was never to convey that all parents who are blind
> their children would become criminal.
>
> I just wanted to understand as too how do parents with blindness deal
> with such challenges. I have also seen cases where because of
> blindness one parent is considered less important in house after a
> point of time.
>
> And I have also seen cases where both blind parents have not been able
> to give adequate education to their children. But of course, that is
> not to say that all do the same.
>
> So if you and others can come out of their instant emotional
> reactions, then I can get a proper answer. The idea is not to defame
> anyone. Its just to understand the technicalities.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing 
wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating 
towards ourselves as beggers!

Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first 
of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to 
convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring 
to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning.  
Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and 
subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the 
true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we 
even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world 
perceives you  in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it 
is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark 
side of it, then why complain at the way we get  treated? If you say your name 
is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by 
others! This is what is meant by conditioning.

Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have equal 
right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your 
abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
Warmly
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well said Ishita.
Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise 
are rare..

Please remember beggars are not choosers

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You are very right!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and iss

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I 
am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone 
should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at all! But I am not 
blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are 
conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or 
legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we 
are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness  that determines the 
criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, 
personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should 
not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to 
marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said 
that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have 
happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at 
these cases, it is very encouraging  and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share 
our positive experiences,  young intelligent women like you  may look at this 
subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become 
desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do 
you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make 
it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and  get to know 
each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you 
have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to 
you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter  develop our 
hidden potentials and give away much more of ourselves to this beautiful world. 
We can continue to grow in every way; and carve out  a great life for us!
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training 
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
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Mining / Refining..

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects
I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You are very right!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
> towards ourselves as beggers!
>
> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do
> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
> differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are
> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we
> get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you
> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
> conditioning.
>
> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
> equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best
> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Well said Ishita.
> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
> compromise are rare..
>
> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
> I have 40 percent vision.
> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
> dream unless he has social or economical problems.
> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
> any girl in able bodied world,
> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
> Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
> And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
> Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
> aspects
> I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
> The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
> And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
> saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai b

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

We can charm the world with our personality.
But a able bodied person has right to choose equal life partner and we
can’t take away this right by just motivating ourself.
eye plays important part in over all personality.
and it plays bigger role in marriage market.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> Dear preety madam,
> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
> accept blind person?
> Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
> Blindness is big problem.
> Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
> Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
> will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
> If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
> done really great job.
> If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
> se nahi kar paai.
> Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
> People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
> blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
> life partner.
> Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi
> only.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all
>> doing
>> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
>> towards ourselves as beggers!
>>
>> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
>> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we
>> going
>> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
>> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
>> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
>> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
>> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to
>> do
>> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
>> differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
>> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we
>> are
>> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way
>> we
>> get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what
>> you
>> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
>> conditioning.
>>
>> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
>> equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the
>> best
>> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
>> Warmly
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
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>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Well said Ishita.
>> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
>> compromise are rare..
>>
>> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of ishita kapoor
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
>> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
>> valid.
>> I have 40 percent vision.
>> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
>> dream unless he has social or economical problems.
>> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
>> any girl in able bodied world,
>> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
>> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
>> Otherwise no sig

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think we are lacking self esteem to a very large digree! Not anyones fault, 
but we now need to become aware of this fact and start taking responsibility to 
work on this positively. The very fact that all this is surfacing here is a 
great positive sign! At least when we begin to  define  and diagnose the 
issues, we are on the way to find  solutions and treat the trouble! Thank you 
for participating on this mail thread. Let us hold on to each other and help 
each other out of this pit of low self esteem and confidence! For if this elite 
group is suffering from this, can you imagine what is the condition of the huge 
numbers of blind people who are so much less fortunate than many of us? First 
of all we have to help ourselves, only then we can begin to pull others with 
us! We are the ones who will make the change for the better for all of us.
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

very true rajesh sir,
compromise or rare.
you summed up properly which i couldn't

On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Well said Ishita.
> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
> compromise are rare..
>
> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
> valid.
> I have 40 percent vision.
> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
> dream unless he has social or economical problems.
> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
> any girl in able bodied world,
> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
> Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
> And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
> Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
> aspects
> I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
> The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
> And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
> saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
> to tariff kar saku.
> I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
> youngsters that please don’t do this.
> Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
> ya chahti hun.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> You are very right!
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
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>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
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>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Zoher Kheriwala
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
>> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
>> to a blind person.

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Priti jee
you have not understood what I said.
society leaves blind or other disadvantaged with very less choice.
I too have married a sighted girl and a few blind friends of mine have married 
sighted boys and girls.
but it does not make the world rosy.

Self perception matters, but it should be realistic.
Then only can you  bring about a few positive changes in yourself and in the 
world around.

Saying that all is well, is the greatest euphimism.
Blindness is a really major challenge to be lived with and the spouse must 
understand it well.
So, blindness does not matter argument is fallacious.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
> towards ourselves as beggers!
>
> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do
> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
> differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are
> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we
> get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you
> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
> conditioning.
>
> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
> equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best
> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Well said Ishita.
> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
> compromise are rare..
>
> Please remember beggars are not choosers
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani s

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normal people interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-02 Thread Amar Jain

@Rajesh Sir: too harsh to classify ourselves as beggers. If someone is
able to accept you with your disability for a life-long relationship,
and otherwise you are at par with others in terms of education,
finance, and otherwise,then where does begging come into the picture?

@Ishita:I can understand your situation. You are at a stage where the
little vision also matters for anyone in that circumstance.

I do not completely disagree with your views; but what I would only
say that don't keep this thought as a harsh bottem line. Thereby you
will be closing your mind for a change which is not impossible to
happen though howsoever less possible it may be.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I am blind too! Yes it does matter to my spouse... he takes great care to keep 
things where they  belong, he takes care not to leave me alone on the street
and I in return make sure he eats his fruits everyday!
So where is the  problem?
Preeti
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I 
am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone 
should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at all! But I am not 
blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are 
conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or 
legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we 
are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness  that determines the 
criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, 
personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should 
not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to 
marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said 
that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have 
happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at 
these cases, it is very encouraging  and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share 
our positive experiences,  young intelligent women like you  may look at this 
subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become 
desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do 
you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make 
it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and  get to know 
each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you 
have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to 
you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter  develop our 
hidden potentials and give away much more of ourselves to this beautiful world. 
We can continue to grow in every way; and carve out  a great life for us!
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or eco

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

When did I say blindness does not matter? I  have been totally blind all  my 
life and also am a womam! I was rejected for marriage by at least 150 men, both 
blind and sighted! But, then I took matters into my own hands! Things changed! 
I worked upon my positive points, still do, and as you know, have married 
twice! I even decided to leave my first husband after trying to work that 
marriage for 11 years! Remarried again and this time I learnt and we are happy! 
We make our reality all of us! 
Reality is what you make of it... but, it is a huge responsibility to take on 
all that I am talking about! The  world will slowly change, it is changing, and 
we need to help make the change. No one likes to share things with others. So 
the easiest way to not share good things with others, is to point out any old 
thing about them and say that because of that we are not good enough to deserve 
our rightful place in the society! And for us blind people, we are functioning  
in this world, a world which has been created by sighted people for sighted 
people! Do you even begin to realize your own power and potential? You are 
succeeding to function successfully in a world that is not made for you? So 
dont easily give away your power... you guys are simply fantistic! Just begin 
to believe this and see the transformation that will happen around! I am not 
asking  you to become big headed, but at least give yourselves the credit for 
what you all are doing! Don't worry about abut how others think of blind 
people. We are what we are without sight... let them try doing half the things 
we do even with sight!
Preeti
Preeti Monga
Director

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Priti jee
you have not understood what I said.
society leaves blind or other disadvantaged with very less choice.
I too have married a sighted girl and a few blind friends of mine have married 
sighted boys and girls.
but it does not make the world rosy.

Self perception matters, but it should be realistic.
Then only can you  bring about a few positive changes in yourself and in the 
world around.

Saying that all is well, is the greatest euphimism.
Blindness is a really major challenge to be lived with and the spouse must 
understand it well.
So, blindness does not matter argument is fallacious.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
> towards ourselves as beggers!
>
> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
> to convince the world that we are great human bein

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread Nikita Vaid

I completely agree with Preetiji and amar.
Dear Ishita, a lot of perception of others towards us is based on the 
perception that we carry about ourselves.
I ask a question to all, what is the guarantee that a marriage between 
physically abled individuals do not fail or there are no compromises? Similarly 
there are no divorces of blind couple?

Marriage is a little about luck also I feel. Ofcourse our Indian mentality  is 
not too open to readily except the fact that a blind person can get a abled 
bodied life person and that too with out any terms and conditions.
But its we youngsters only who have to change our own outlook and then outlook 
of others.
Ishita believe me when I was a college going girl, I also had the same 
inhibitions as you have but with time and situation I had to become strong and 
then things sloly started falling in place.
With regards to your point of touching some bodies clothes in office? I thing 
there is a misunderstanding some where,
I had just given an example of how in some cases, where ever it is possible 
especially in the same gender you can ask the person to describe the color or 
design of the dres.
And it is not always necessary to touch and see also.
Are all the interactions in the work place only between boss and subordinate?? 
Or related to false praising for promotion only? Don't people have friends  or 
peers in office?. Even sighted persons will not often go and complement a 
Chairmen of the company if he is wearing a good shirt. Its all about the 
rapport one builts with each others in the work place.

Where is the link of promotion with the point of complementing others on their 
dress or some thing.
You would only complement some one if you have some kind of comfort level with 
them right?

My dear please try to come out of your negative shell and look at the world 
beyond with some openness.

Trust me marriage it self is not a very big deal or a rocket science for which 
one a very dignified and a respected person is compelled to use the example of 
a begger.



Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
C- 26, G - block, Bandra Kurla Complex,
Bandra [E], Mumbai- 400051.
deskphone: +91-22-66985557.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I 
am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone 
should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at all! But I am not 
blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are 
conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or 
legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we 
are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness  that determines the 
criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, 
personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should 
not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to 
marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said 
that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marr
 iages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And 
when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging  and motivating. Maybe, if 
more of us share our positive experiences,  young intelligent women like you  
may look at this subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to 
do to become desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or 
not. Where do you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If 
so, do make it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and  
get to know each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am 
sure you have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not 
visible to you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter  
develop our hidden potentials and give away muc

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear  Ishita,

one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a 
choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, 
keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being 
contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and 
admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come 
forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it 
so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is 
conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the 
rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what others are saying or 
thinking about me'?
If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never 
live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members 
don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I 
had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home 
and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time 
living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I 
know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around 
waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world  
begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it 
happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training 
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
 and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and Marketing Data 
Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer 
centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
> towards ourselves as beggers!
>
> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do
> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
> differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are
> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we
> get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you
> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
> conditioning.
>
> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
> equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best
> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
>

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I don't understand why the metaphorical use of a phrase cannot be understood by 
learned members here.
I used the phrase
beggars are not choosers
to mean that
as blind individuals, we are left with very little choice.
be it marriage or other matters.

I hope I am clear and we can argue about degree of choice available, instead of 
literally considering ourselves beggars or not.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Nikita Vaid
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I completely agree with Preetiji and amar.
Dear Ishita, a lot of perception of others towards us is based on the 
perception that we carry about ourselves.
I ask a question to all, what is the guarantee that a marriage between 
physically abled individuals do not fail or there are no compromises? Similarly 
there are no divorces of blind couple?

Marriage is a little about luck also I feel. Ofcourse our Indian mentality  is 
not too open to readily except the fact that a blind person can get a abled 
bodied life person and that too with out any terms and conditions.
But its we youngsters only who have to change our own outlook and then outlook 
of others.
Ishita believe me when I was a college going girl, I also had the same 
inhibitions as you have but with time and situation I had to become strong and 
then things sloly started falling in place.
With regards to your point of touching some bodies clothes in office? I thing 
there is a misunderstanding some where,
I had just given an example of how in some cases, where ever it is possible 
especially in the same gender you can ask the person to describe the color or 
design of the dres.
And it is not always necessary to touch and see also.
Are all the interactions in the work place only between boss and subordinate?? 
Or related to false praising for promotion only? Don't people have friends  or 
peers in office?. Even sighted persons will not often go and complement a 
Chairmen of the company if he is wearing a good shirt. Its all about the 
rapport one builts with each others in the work place.

Where is the link of promotion with the point of complementing others on their 
dress or some thing.
You would only complement some one if you have some kind of comfort level with 
them right?

My dear please try to come out of your negative shell and look at the world 
beyond with some openness.

Trust me marriage it self is not a very big deal or a rocket science for which 
one a very dignified and a respected person is compelled to use the example of 
a begger.



Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
C- 26, G - block, Bandra Kurla Complex,
Bandra [E], Mumbai- 400051.
deskphone: +91-22-66985557.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I 
am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone 
should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at all! But I am not 
blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are 
conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or 
legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we 
are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness  that determines the 
criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, 
personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should 
not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to 
marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said 
that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marr
 iages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And 
when you look at these cases, it is very

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole 
thing defeats the very purpose.
Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may...

If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear  Ishita,

one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a 
choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, 
keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being 
contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and 
admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come 
forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it 
so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is 
conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the 
rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what others are saying or 
thinking about me'?
If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never 
live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members 
don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I 
had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home 
and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time 
living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I 
know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around 
waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world  
begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it 
happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training 
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
 and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and Marketing Data 
Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer 
centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing
> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
> towards ourselves as beggers!
>
> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going
> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
> beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do
> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
> differently? The world perceives you

Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

madam! file the petition on my behalf . I am ready to pay a documentation 
charges and other duties reqired. I can not pay the heavy expenditure of 
lawyer's fee.




-Original Message- 
From: Kanchan Pamnani

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:19 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

Mukesh, I had mentioned in an earlier email on the issue of online bookings
that we should flood the ministry with our query. No one except Bhiwani
responded. Lets go after them -each one of us has a voice. I dont run an NGO
nor can I convince any of them to do anything but I have always relied on
the strength of individuals and accessindia is the best place to discuss it
and Accessindia members have the strength of numbers. People have forgotten
or do not believe in history-Before I got the 2008 circular from RBI we had
flooded the email boxes of the right people at the RBI. They realised the
problem because it was continuous. It was not the work of any NGO. It was
collective work.
I only suggested sending hardcopies to the railway ministry because I dont
know how savvy they are with technology- I knew the RBI handled emails well
even in 2006-2007.

There are two different issues-one is about online bookings with concession
and the other is about the website being generally inaccessible and we have
to approach both these issues properly.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



i fully agree that instead of finding solution for self problems, we
must fight for the accessibility and I am ready to do any possible if
you suggest any particular action to be taken at our end.

I was just finding the temporary  solution just not to miss my train
on the scheduled date. so honestly speaking, I am happy to fight for
our own cause in the right direction, so kindly suggest.
thanks,


On 7/2/14, KanchanPamnani  wrote:

There is already one Petition pending in the BombayHigh Court.
Yourmatter is also pending before CCPD- what happened you had a date in
June? Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 02 July 2014 07:26
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to 
make

all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution, they
have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will 
join


us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.

- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



hello,
EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
all.

before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar
field?
thanks,

On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
but to no avail.
Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
when I click on "graphic calendar link."

Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

Will be a great cue to save my time.

Thanks
Thank





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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

you are absolutely right ishita, now I can memorise my one year college time 
where in my late teenage I have been proposed by another teenager girl. I 
replied her to go to yur parents and say them that I want to marry with a 
completely blind boy. later I could not meet her in that entire college 
year. however, we were both in our immatured stage of life but my matured 
reply turned her out.

I also endorse your opinion regarding blindness.


-Original Message- 
From: ishita kapoor

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity 
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi 
only.



On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all 
doing

wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
towards ourselves as beggers!

Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us
first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we 
going

to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still
referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very
beginning.  Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go
ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at
ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to 
do

this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us
differently? The world perceives you  in the same way that you look at
yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we 
are

choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we
get  treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what 
you

will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by
conditioning.

Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best  and we have
equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the 
best

of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you!
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – 
Corporate

; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well said Ishita.
Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
compromise are rare..

Please remember beggars are not choosers



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are 
valid.

I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodie

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

you are right ishita, but at some points, blind girls, if they are having 
good job and taking handsome salary,  are also don't want to marry with a 
blind boys. and after getting failed to find a sighted match in their later 
30s they search for suitable blind partner.



-Original Message- 
From: ishita kapoor

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:09 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity 
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.
I have 40 percent vision.
And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
dream unless he has social or economical problems.
In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather
any girl in able bodied world,
Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.
Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.
And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief.
Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all 
aspects

I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs.
The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man.
And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by
saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu
to tariff kar saku.
I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all
youngsters that please don’t do this.
Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun
ya chahti hun.


On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:

You are very right!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
related to our blindness.
Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
blindness.
When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
of blind partner.


On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:

Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
"self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide
emotional
support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
India.

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Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

"Nev

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
to live willingly with the person with disability.

I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
blind person.


On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole
> thing defeats the very purpose.
> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
> may...
>
> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear  Ishita,
>
> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a
> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is,
> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to
> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too
> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something
> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what others
> are saying or thinking about me'?
> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never
> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home
> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on,
> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean
> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only
> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
> change for each one of us.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear preety madam,
> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
> accept blind person?
> Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
> Blindness is big problem.
> Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
> Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
> will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
> If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
> done really great job.
> If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
> se nahi kar paai.
> Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
> People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
> blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
> life partner.
> Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi
> only.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all
>> doing
>> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating
>> towards ourselves as b

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

dear bhavani sir.
those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
backward sighted boy easily.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>
> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
> blind person.
>
>
> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
>> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
>> whole
>> thing defeats the very purpose.
>> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
>> may...
>>
>> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Preeti Monga
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear  Ishita,
>>
>> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people
>> a
>> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do
>> is,
>> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
>> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
>> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
>> to
>> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
>> too
>> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
>> something
>> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
>> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
>> others
>> are saying or thinking about me'?
>> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
>> never
>> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
>> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
>> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
>> home
>> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
>> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come
>> on,
>> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
>> mean
>> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
>> only
>> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
>> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
>> change for each one of us.
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of ishita kapoor
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear preety madam,
>> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
>> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
>> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
>> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
>> accept blind person?
>> Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
>> Blindness is big problem.
>> Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
>> Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
>> will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
>> If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
>> done really great job.
>> If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
>> se nahi kar paai.
>> Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
>> People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
>> blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
>> life partner.
>

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normal people interested in marrying blind partners

@amar,
Less possible change can be considered as exception.
And exceptions are everywhere.
i have just expressed my views. it doesn't mean i am not positive person.
in fact i am realistic.
That is why I believe that we can do lots of things but still we are
becharas somewhere.

On 7/2/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> @Rajesh Sir: too harsh to classify ourselves as beggers. If someone is
> able to accept you with your disability for a life-long relationship,
> and otherwise you are at par with others in terms of education,
> finance, and otherwise,then where does begging come into the picture?
>
> @Ishita:I can understand your situation. You are at a stage where the
> little vision also matters for anyone in that circumstance.
>
> I do not completely disagree with your views; but what I would only
> say that don't keep this thought as a harsh bottem line. Thereby you
> will be closing your mind for a change which is not impossible to
> happen though howsoever less possible it may be.
>
> Regards,
> --
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> Website: www.amarjain.com
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-02 Thread Amar Jain

@Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.

@Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
with a simple illustration like this.

I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.

Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
etc. etc.

You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
activities.

You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
worried and be hopeful that all goes well.

 In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
slowly in life?

Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
people adopt?

To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.

That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread George Abraham

The discussion is interesting but academic an hypothetical. Success and
failure or for that matter possibility and impossibility varies from person
to person and situation to situation. I am afraid this is a non conclusive
debate and we can carry on talking our points till the cows come home.
Blindness can be a defining factor if we allow it to be so. If we are
willing to compensate with factors like extra effort, good
communications,positive attitude, sense humour, tact, personal charm,
patience, love  and capacity to contribute and share then blindness need
not be a factor. All this is a matter of personal perceptions and
perspective.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Nikita Vaid
Sent: 02 July 2014 15:37
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I completely agree with Preetiji and amar.
Dear Ishita, a lot of perception of others towards us is based on the
perception that we carry about ourselves.
I ask a question to all, what is the guarantee that a marriage between
physically abled individuals do not fail or there are no compromises?
Similarly there are no divorces of blind couple?

Marriage is a little about luck also I feel. Ofcourse our Indian mentality
is not too open to readily except the fact that a blind person can get a
abled bodied life person and that too with out any terms and conditions.
But its we youngsters only who have to change our own outlook and then
outlook of others.
Ishita believe me when I was a college going girl, I also had the same
inhibitions as you have but with time and situation I had to become strong
and then things sloly started falling in place.
With regards to your point of touching some bodies clothes in office? I
thing there is a misunderstanding some where,
I had just given an example of how in some cases, where ever it is possible
especially in the same gender you can ask the person to describe the color
or design of the dres.
And it is not always necessary to touch and see also.
Are all the interactions in the work place only between boss and
subordinate?? Or related to false praising for promotion only? Don't people
have friends  or peers in office?. Even sighted persons will not often go
and complement a Chairmen of the company if he is wearing a good shirt. Its
all about the rapport one builts with each others in the work place.

Where is the link of promotion with the point of complementing others on
their dress or some thing.
You would only complement some one if you have some kind of comfort level
with them right?

My dear please try to come out of your negative shell and look at the world
beyond with some openness.

Trust me marriage it self is not a very big deal or a rocket science for
which one a very dignified and a respected person is compelled to use the
example of a begger.



Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
C- 26, G - block, Bandra Kurla Complex,
Bandra [E], Mumbai- 400051.
deskphone: +91-22-66985557.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.




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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else.
I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that
anyone should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at all! But I
am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we
Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person
without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel
like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be
blindness  that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in
totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what
you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that
should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I
have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women,
not even blind men prefer to ma

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?...

And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings
associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband
and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human
heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who
started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment,
please?


On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> dear bhavani sir.
> those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
> backward sighted boy easily.
>
> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
>> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
>> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
>> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>>
>> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
>> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
>> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
>> blind person.
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
>>> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
>>> whole
>>> thing defeats the very purpose.
>>> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
>>> may...
>>>
>>> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Preeti Monga
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> Dear  Ishita,
>>>
>>> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people
>>> a
>>> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do
>>> is,
>>> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
>>> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
>>> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
>>> to
>>> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
>>> too
>>> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
>>> something
>>> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
>>> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
>>> others
>>> are saying or thinking about me'?
>>> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
>>> never
>>> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
>>> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
>>> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
>>> home
>>> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
>>> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come
>>> on,
>>> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
>>> mean
>>> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
>>> only
>>> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
>>> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
>>> change for each one of us.
>>> Preeti
>>>
>>> Preeti Monga
>>> Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>>> Corporate
>>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>>
>>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of ishita kapoor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> Dear preety madam,
>>> I can understand through your real example that marriage between
>>> disable and non disable is not always disastrous
>>> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
>>> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
>>> accept blind person?
>>> Madam, this isn't question of Indian or American mentality.
>>> Blindness is big problem.
>>> Blindness is not as si

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marrying blind partners

@amar You are just thinking of children.
But if I am blind and if I marry sighted person in that case we both
will have to lose a lot
I will have to compromise with his education, social status or earning.
If he is well educated, socially perfect and economically sound then
he won’t accept me rather he won’t have any reason to accept me.
At the same time he will always remember that he had to marry me
because I had nice job or he couldn’t find proper girl in able bodied
society.
And if I marry with blind person and if we both are totally blind then
we can bring our children properly if we have proper income
For education we can hire personal teacher.
For mobility we can keep full time driver.
In that case also we may face difficulties but it would be 1000 times
better then compromise.


On 7/2/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.
>
> @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
> Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
> with a simple illustration like this.
>
> I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
> education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.
>
> Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
> helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
> find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
> competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
> etc. etc.
>
> You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
> whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
> activities.
>
> You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
> against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
> no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
> is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
> worried and be hopeful that all goes well.
>
>  In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
> to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
> children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
> slowly in life?
>
> Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
> people adopt?
>
> To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
> of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
> own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.
>
> That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
> confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
> experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Amar Jain.
> Website: www.amarjain.com
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-02 Thread Mukesh Sharma

curiosity or quriyocity as in the thread subject:
once a group of ladies took their kids to local part, out of the 5, one
lady told him kid not to play in one corner of the park, as kids started
playing, all ladies were enjoying gossip! After a while, 2 kids came and
complained mom, "ghaas se chot lag gayee" (got scratches from the grass.
The lady that asked his child not to play in that corner said, I told my
boy to avoid that corner, I knew that corner has such sharp grass edges,
where is my boy: the other lady replied, don't worry he is playing other
side. Guess what, the odd one lady was blind.
Just telling you this, because I feel that we all are equal, if not in
terms of capabilities may be in terms of challenges that life throw at us
and down the line we all face them with our experience.
Late. MK Gandhi was never able to correct the handwriting of him eldest
son, because his own handwriting was so poor, he was a sighted. One of my
Friend father was not able to teach him Braille (all in the family were
Blind) because both fater and mother were not educated and what they knew
so well, chair canning, that too they could not teach to their kids, all
girls and no one was interested in learning that.

Every human is different and so their needs are, accept it and live happily
and by the way, here is a tip to for those bline parents who want to
correct their kids handwriting: grab a couple of cursive writing template
books and ask you kid to practice. Get the template checked by some sighted
friend once a while and remember the  common mistake your kid does and the
next time he start to practice, you keep reminding him about the mistakes,
that's what I could do with my sister's daughter during the summer
vacation, lovely time, pari f ka muh right me ho ga, j ke upar dot lagana
and so on.

Thanks With Best Regards
Mukesh Sharma

On 2 July 2014 16:09, Amar Jain  wrote:

> @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.
>
> @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
> Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
> with a simple illustration like this.
>
> I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
> education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.
>
> Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
> helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
> find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
> competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
> etc. etc.
>
> You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
> whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
> activities.
>
> You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
> against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
> no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
> is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
> worried and be hopeful that all goes well.
>
>  In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
> to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
> children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
> slowly in life?
>
> Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
> people adopt?
>
> To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
> of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
> own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.
>
> That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
> confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
> experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Amar Jain.
> Website: www.amarjain.com
>
>
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[AI] for typing software

2014-07-02 Thread Mohit Gupta

hello friends

I want any accessible typing speed increaser software. Please provide me.
I would be very thankful.
Thank you.

-- 
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread George Abraham

Time to call off the marathon eh Avinash?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 02 July 2014 16:36
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?...

And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings
associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband
and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human
heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who
started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment,
please?


On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> dear bhavani sir.
> those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
> backward sighted boy easily.
>
> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
>> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
>> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
>> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>>
>> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
>> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
>> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
>> blind person.
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
>>> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
>>> whole
>>> thing defeats the very purpose.
>>> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
>>> may...
>>>
>>> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Preeti Monga
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> Dear  Ishita,
>>>
>>> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving
people
>>> a
>>> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to
do
>>> is,
>>> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of
being
>>> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by
and
>>> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
>>> to
>>> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
>>> too
>>> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
>>> something
>>> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
>>> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
>>> others
>>> are saying or thinking about me'?
>>> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
>>> never
>>> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
>>> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
>>> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
>>> home
>>> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead
of
>>> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So
come
>>> on,
>>> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
>>> mean
>>> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
>>> only
>>> live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will
never
>>> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
>>> change for each one of us.
>>> Preeti
>>>
>>> Preeti Monga
>>> Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>>> Corporate
>>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>>
>>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of ishita kapoor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> Dear preety madam,
>>> I can understand through your real examp

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

this is problem with scholars.
they know everything and they can say everything

On 7/2/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?...
>
> And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings
> associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband
> and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human
> heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who
> started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment,
> please?
>
>
> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> dear bhavani sir.
>> those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
>> backward sighted boy easily.
>>
>> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>>> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
>>> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
>>> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
>>> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>>>
>>> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
>>> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
>>> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
>>> blind person.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
 Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
 However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
 whole
 thing defeats the very purpose.
 Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
 may...

 If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear  Ishita,

 one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving
 people
 a
 choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to
 do
 is,
 keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of
 being
 contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by
 and
 admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
 to
 come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
 too
 face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
 something
 that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
 compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
 others
 are saying or thinking about me'?
 If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
 never
 live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
 members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
 anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
 home
 at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead
 of
 having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So
 come
 on,
 every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
 mean
 that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
 only
 live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will
 never
 happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
 change for each one of us.
 Preeti

 Preeti Monga
 Director

 Mobile: +91 9871701646
 Landline: 011 22781446
 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
 Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
 Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
 -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
 Corporate
 ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
 workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
 Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

 We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
 customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of ishita kapoor
 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
 normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 Dear preety madam,
 I can understand through your real example that marriage between
 disable and non disable is not always disastrous
 But I

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I guess so George. We have all shared a lot... I do hope some of us have
learnt a lot from all this! I sure have... have understood a little bit more
of the issues the blind community are jostling with. It is tough I know...
but life is tough for everyone... in a different way fofous... but when life
gets tougher, the tough get tougher!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting  Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:56 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Time to call off the marathon eh Avinash?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 02 July 2014 16:36
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?...

And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings
associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband
and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human
heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who
started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment,
please?


On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> dear bhavani sir.
> those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
> backward sighted boy easily.
>
> On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
>> To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
>> only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
>> anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
>> to live willingly with the person with disability.
>>
>> I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
>> Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
>> it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
>> blind person.
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
>>> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
>>> whole
>>> thing defeats the very purpose.
>>> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
>>> may...
>>>
>>> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Preeti Monga
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> Dear  Ishita,
>>>
>>> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving
people
>>> a
>>> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to
do
>>> is,
>>> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of
being
>>> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by
and
>>> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
>>> to
>>> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
>>> too
>>> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
>>> something
>>> that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
>>> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
>>> others
>>> are saying or thinking about me'?
>>> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
>>> never
>>> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
>>> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
>>> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
>>> home
>>> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead
of
>>> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So
come
>>> on,
>>> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
>>> mean
>>> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
>>> only
>>> live once the world  begins to

Re: [AI] for typing software

2014-07-02 Thread Satguru Rathi


Hi,

Please try demo of "TalkingTuyper" from APH. Info is at 
http://www.aph.org/products/tt_bro.html



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-Original Message- 
From: Mohit Gupta

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:42 PM
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Subject: [AI] for typing software

hello friends

I want any accessible typing speed increaser software. Please provide me.
I would be very thankful.
Thank you.

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Rajasthan.



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[AI] FW: FW: Plextalk Vachak with Hindi TTS

2014-07-02 Thread sirajuddin

 

-Original Message-
From: siraj khan [mailto:khansiraj...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 4:01 PM
To: accessindia-request
Subject: Fwd: FW: Plextalk Vachak with Hindi TTS

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From: Saksham Helpline 
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:56:40 +0530
Subject: FW: Plextalk Vachak with Hindi TTS
To: khansiraj...@gmail.com




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From: Satyajeet/Saksham [mailto:satyaj...@saksham.org]
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Cc: 'Dipendra Manocha'; 'Anubhav Mitra/ Saksham'; 'saksham helpline'
Subject: Plextalk Vachak with Hindi TTS



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[AI] Business Standard: Delhi's public transport - a hurdle for the disabled

Dear Friends

Its good to notice these days issues of accessibility in Delhi are
widely covered in EnglishPrint media with some research. If you
remember few days I shared four page news which was published in
Indian Express in which all people quoted were blind. Then that item
travelled like bullet across many platforms in the disability sector...
And yesterday, Business Standard published 3 page feature piece
highlighting the accessibility concerns.This news which I'm sharing
today and very useful for me personally, sounds better researched.
Majority of people quoted are disabled activists. Great going all.
Just carry on the momentum... Afterall PWD Act is approaching its 20th
birthday. Huh?

Delhi's public transport - a hurdle for the disabled
IANS | New Delhi
http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/delhi-s-public-transport-a-hurdle-for-the-disabled-feature-114070100311_1.html
July 1, 2014

Varun Mahato, a 24-year-old visually impaired, boards a bus to his
Noida office every day. His journey is a "struggle" because he often
travels standing as the seats reserved for those with disability
remain occupied by the abled who often callously refuse to offer him a
seat.
Mahato ends up missing his bus on various occasions, as other
commuters at bus stops nudge and push, making it impossible for him to
climb on.
Mahato is not alone in his despair.
Wheelchair-bound Ismail Sheikh, 22, a vocalist by profession at a
restaurant in South Extension, too faces the same fate as he often has
to wait for help to board the bus.
"The ramps which are mandatory at all the bus stops to help people
like us board the bus are never available," Sheikh told IANS.
They also face the insensitive behaviour of the driver and conductor,
who many a time charge more than the designated fare, despite travel
for visually impaired being free in all state-run Delhi Transport
Corporation (DTC) buses and the National Capital Region (NCR).
This is however not restricted to Delhi or the NCR area alone. The 70
million disabled in India face similar problems in other parts of the
country too and, possibly, things are much worse.
According to Merry Baruah, founder of Action for Autism: "Not just in
Delhi, transportation in every Indian city and town has failed
disabled citizens to access a smooth life.
"It is the lack of awareness among people along with lapsed policies
that has become hurdle for the people with disabilities," Baruah told
IANS.
She said that while the low floor buses in cities like Delhi, Mumbai
and Bangalore are initiatives for making transportation smooth, it has
hardly helped in easing the woes of the disabled.
Said Javed Abidi, director, National Centre for Promotion of
Employment for Disabled People in India: "Despite it being a norm,
there are no ramps to get on to the bus stands in the national
capital."
"It's a shame that the DTC plays hoax on us by painting
disabled-friendly pictures and signages at bus stops, as they never
practise what they preach," Abidi, who works for the rights of the
disabled in the country, told IANS.
He added that despite writing to the DTC that existing bus stands in
the city are not disabled-friendly, hardly anything has been done to
address the issue.
"Even the advertisement boards near the ramps are a big hurdle for a
wheelchair-bound person as it restricts movement," said Abidi.
Though many new pavements and sidewalks in most New Delhi Municipal
Council and Municipal Corporation of Delhi (MCD) areas are spacious
and well-laid - though they are not tactile-friendly as pavements in
cities around the world - they are blocked by bollards through which a
wheelchair can't pass.
"As a result, wheelchair-bound persons cannot move about on the
pavements. When we can't provide accessibility to disabled people, why
call the capital city a disabled friendly one," Abidi questioned.
According to disabled rights organisations, the special ramps
constructed on many roads have faulty design and don't meet
international standards.
For a height of one metre the ramps should be 18 metres long (1:18
gradient). But the ramps are built on a 1:12 gradient and are steep.
Moreover, they also do not provide a landing after every five metres.
However, Ravinder Minhas, senior manager, DTC, told IANS that the DTC
is "not responsible for the construction of the ramps".
"DTC is not responsible for the construction of the ramps. It is the
Delhi State Industrial and Infrastructure Development Corporation
Limited (DSIIDC) which is responsible for the construction," Minhas
told IANS.
"We cannot do anything about the disabled unfriendly pavements. In
case people with disability face any kind of difficulties they can
register a complaint by calling at our toll free numbers," Minhas
stated.
Mahato and Ismail's anguish are, however, not limited to only
travelling in the city buses. It unfortunately also extends to the
Delhi Metro, which is considered to be a "boon" for daily commuters.
The duo share that the house keepin

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread Naushad Charivilayil

Your case may be exceptional, please don't compare whole society through 
your view point. Indian society is not ready to accept visually 
challenged people at least for next 50 or 70 years. For example, long 
time back when I worked as a web programmer in a company at Eranakulam 
district at Kerala state, I accidentally heard a conversation between my 
colleagues about blind society. On that day, i understood how does the 
sighted people putting distance to visually challenged community. 
Throughout my life, I found women are more aggressive than men in such 
matters.


In Kerala, more blind men are married to blind women. Some blind men are 
married to sighted women. However, most often blind women marry only 
blind men. It is very unusual for a blind woman to marry a sighted man. 
This is due to the privileged position enjoyed by male members in 
families and society. The prevalence of the practice of dowry is also 
attributable to it. At present, unless blind men marry blind women, the 
latter have almost no chance of a wedlock.


Almost everywhere in the world; people with any kind of disability are 
looked down upon as second class citizens. They are less privileged. 
Social barriers are much more responsible for the backward nature in the 
life of people with visual disabilities. Many sighted people in 
regressive societies feel that blind people are abnormal. This is a 
serious misconception that hamper the progress of visually challenged 
society in several ways in India including marriage life.


Do you know, in indian society, what visually impaired people cannot do 
gets more attention than what they can do. Such an attitude on the part 
of society deprives blind people of their basic human rights. Their lot 
is cast in a world of darkness. They drag out their sterile existence in 
silent agony.



I am blind too! Yes it does matter to my spouse... he takes great care 
to keep things where they  belong, he takes care not to leave me alone 
on the street

and I in return make sure he eats his fruits everyday!
So where is the  problem?
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM
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concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.




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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone 
else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea 
that anyone should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at 
all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal 
thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to 
marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is 
OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that 
it need not be blindness  that determines the criterion for marriage, it 
is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, 
talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, 
should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that 
no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry 
us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very 
wonderful marriages that have happened for blind women with sighted non 
disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging 
and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, 
young intelligent women like you  may look at this subject differently. 
Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and 
sought after lif

[AI] Need these books

2014-07-02 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel

1. How to read better and faster by NORMAN LEWIS
2. Verbal and non verbal reasoning by RS Agarwal.






-- 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India
Phone: 09811767506,
09211400800/ 926800
Skype: mohibrafel



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[AI] Countrywide disablity card

2014-07-02 Thread Saravanan

Dear Friends,
I am Saravanan from bangalore.
I hope all of our friends are well.
Currently we ar getting disablity book/certificate as per the state rules and 
regulations.
And it is valid for only the state where we get.
Is there any possibility for having a disablity card that we can utilize all 
over india. I request disablity rights organizations to raise effort for 
providing such a card. Let it be like PAN card which will be common all over 
india. We can use it for aviling all of our rights.
Concessions provided by the transport organizations is also valid for the state 
only.
Is there any possiblity that to get any concession bus pass that we can utilize 
all over india like Rail concession.
I request you all to throw light on these issues.

Thanks
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402


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[AI] Trying to order smart cane: no responce to emails. Any Help?

2014-07-02 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra

 Dear All,
My friend in US is trying desperately to order the newly launched
Smart cane. He is based out of US and wants it delivered to a address
in Pune, Maharastra. unfortunately he is not recieving any responce to
his multiple mail queries. Can someone here help? its embarrassing
that people are interested all the way from abroad, and we cant even
respond to their simple query.
I'm pasting one of his recent mail below for reference.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Rahul Mehendale 
Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Process to order the smart cane
To: "h...@nabindia.info" 
Cc: <>


Dear sir or madam - I wanted to follow up on my previous email since I
haven't heard back.
- can you please advise if the smart cane is available for purchase at
your location and you will ship to an India address in Pune?
- please advise how I should pay with my international credit card.

Best regards,
Rahul Mehendale

www.mySkin.com
www.dermograph.com



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[AI] about kindle ebooks

2014-07-02 Thread Preeti Bhutani

Hello, I am a visually impaired , wheel chair bound person with hearing
loss. I can only read ebooks in ms word. I recently purchased ebook five
point someone from amaaon.in . I convert kindle ebooks to ms word with
caliber converting software. I cant convert other ebooks but not this ne
can an.y  help me ?.  I can read ebooks in ms word with zoom text a
magnifying software. I will be very grateful if you can help me. Regards
Preeti


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[AI] Special read: The indelible ink of the special stamp: an insider's research essay on imprints and erasures

Proponents of Inclusive Education In India must read this article.
Brilliant insights from a blind researcher from Australia. Treat to
read indeed.


Disability & Society
Volume 29, Issue 4, 2014

Abstract
The medical profession ascribes otherness to people with disabilities
through diagnosis and expertism, which sets in motion discursive
powers that oversee their exclusion through schooling and beyond. In
this paper, I present a narrative pieced together from personal
experiences of ducking and weaving the deficit discourse in
'inclusive' education, when seeking employment and in day-to-day
family interaction as a person with severely impaired vision. This
work builds on previous qualitative research I conducted in
Queensland, Australia with a group of young people with impaired
vision who attended an inclusive secondary school. I frame this
discussion using Foucault's conception of normalising judgement
against the hegemony of normalcy, and consider that inclusion for
people with disabilities is reminiscent of a haunting. Through this
analysis, I demonstrate how my ideology is formed, and how it in turn
shapes a research agenda geared toward seeking greater inclusion for
young people with disabilities in schools.
Full article can be read at:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687599.2013.844097


-- 
Avinash Shahi
M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India



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Re: [AI] hi friends hope all are doing well

2014-07-02 Thread anil reddy

On 7/2/14, jitesh jain  wrote:
> is their anyone from hyderabad who are in english medium intermediate
> secondyear who have english civics commerce sanskrit economics
> softcopy of cec group.
> Please Friends Urgent Help
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Re: [AI] Trying to order smart cane: no responce to emails. Any Help?

2014-07-02 Thread Dr.B.S.M.Kumar

Dear Divyanshu,
   Please get in touch with SHAKSHAM New Delhi. You may
visit their website at www.saksham.org and you will get all the
information you require on smart cane.
Regards,
Dr. B.S.M. Kumar
Handset: +919840139849.


On 7/2/14, Divyanshu Ganatra  wrote:
>  Dear All,
> My friend in US is trying desperately to order the newly launched
> Smart cane. He is based out of US and wants it delivered to a address
> in Pune, Maharastra. unfortunately he is not recieving any responce to
> his multiple mail queries. Can someone here help? its embarrassing
> that people are interested all the way from abroad, and we cant even
> respond to their simple query.
> I'm pasting one of his recent mail below for reference.
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Rahul Mehendale 
> Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Process to order the smart cane
> To: "h...@nabindia.info" 
> Cc: <>
>
>
> Dear sir or madam - I wanted to follow up on my previous email since I
> haven't heard back.
> - can you please advise if the smart cane is available for purchase at
> your location and you will ship to an India address in Pune?
> - please advise how I should pay with my international credit card.
>
> Best regards,
> Rahul Mehendale
>
> www.mySkin.com
> www.dermograph.com
>
>
>
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[AI] India has become the First country to ratify the Marrakesh treaty

Great news but still 19 countries are yet to ratify the treaty to make
it workable.

http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/India-Takes-Global-Lead-in-Empowering-the-Blind-to-Read/847688

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Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
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[AI] converting jpj file into text format

2014-07-02 Thread Aravind

hello accessindians as the subject line says I want to convert a jpg file into 
text format please help me it is very argent


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Re: [AI] converting jpj file into text format

2014-07-02 Thread Aravind R

its posible if you have abby fine reader

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Re: [AI] about kindle ebooks

2014-07-02 Thread Ajay Minocha

Hi,
The DRM protection is causing the issue.
you can do either of following 2 ways.
1. download some DRM remover pluggin for caliber and remove the DRM of
the file and then convert it.
2. I can send you a word doc but it might have a lot of formatting issues.
Reply on my personal ID incase you need any help.
Thanks,
Ajay

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> Hello, I am a visually impaired , wheel chair bound person with hearing
> loss. I can only read ebooks in ms word. I recently purchased ebook five
> point someone from amaaon.in . I convert kindle ebooks to ms word with
> caliber converting software. I cant convert other ebooks but not this ne
> can an.y  help me ?.  I can read ebooks in ms word with zoom text a
> magnifying software. I will be very grateful if you can help me. Regards
> Preeti
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Ishita Madam! a great thing is that you are accepting your blindness despite 
you are a low vision person.
- Original Message - 
From: "ishita kapoor" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity 
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
to live willingly with the person with disability.

I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
blind person.

On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:

Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the 
whole

thing defeats the very purpose.
Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
may...

If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear  Ishita,

one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people 
a
choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do 
is,

keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want 
to
come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I 
too
face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also 
something

that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what 
others

are saying or thinking about me'?
If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to 
never

live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at 
home

at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come 
on,
every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that 
mean
that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will 
only

live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
change for each one of us.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – 
Corporate

; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

some of them i know have already paid for that.

- Original Message - 
From: "ishita kapoor" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity 
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

dear bhavani sir.
those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor  or socially
backward sighted boy easily.

On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:

To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing.
only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove
anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone  wish
to live willingly with the person with disability.

I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners.
Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some  problem
it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married
blind person.

On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:

Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken.
However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the
whole
thing defeats the very purpose.
Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what
may...

If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it..

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear  Ishita,

one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people
a
choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do
is,
keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being
contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and
admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want
to
come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I
too
face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also
something
that is conditioned to keep our   esteem down so that we dont begin to
compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest   problem is 'what
others
are saying or thinking about me'?
If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to
never
live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family
members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from
anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at
home
at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of
having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come
on,
every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that
mean
that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will
only
live once the world  begins to think differently about us? It will never
happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will
change for each one of us.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of ishita kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear preety madam,
I can understand through your real example that marriage between
disable and non disable is not always disastrous
But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative.
If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should
accept blind person?
Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality.
Blindness is big problem.
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing.
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people
will know me by my blindness more then my real name.
If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has
done really great job.
If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik
se nahi kar paai.
Blindness will always come first in our over all personality.
People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our
blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind
life partner.
Rath

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marryingblind partners

unfortunately, so called sighted and educated couples also engage tutor for 
their children. where they are doing their homework and reading writing. 
secondly, now these days most of the education system has shifted towards 
digitisation. If me and you can write a mail to accessindia, then a blind 
couple can learn computers and educate them. the culture of amusement parks 
still awaited in small cities of india. this culture is suitable in metro 
cities. the married couple whether sighted or blind often stay with their 
one or more relative, why the blind couple can not stay with their sighted 
relative? Even a sighted house wife requires a kaam waali baai, then why it 
is not applicable for blind? sighted house wives are just watching tv and 
passing the time ideally at home, why they don't do all their business at 
home?
however, I am a strong opinion that in case of blind, both husband and wife 
should be an earning partner. this will subsidise their disadvantages due to 
blindness. if one of them is not earning, then it will increase the 
expenditure, because we have to pay for each and every services.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in 
marryingblind partners




@Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.

@Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
with a simple illustration like this.

I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.

Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
etc. etc.

You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
activities.

You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
worried and be hopeful that all goes well.

In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
slowly in life?

Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
people adopt?

To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.

That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.

Regards,
--
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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[AI] A query on request notification in skype.

2014-07-02 Thread Balaraman


Hi,
My doubt is, how can we get to a request notification in skype.
People send me add contact request and I miss them.
Is there any keystroke in skype with jaws scripts to get to such 
notifications?

Your answers are highly appreciated!

Regards,

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[AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer Jobs/Apply Online

2014-07-02 Thread Sakthi TAB

Bank of Baroda has issued Notification for Recruitment of 300
Probationary Officer in Junior Management  Grade/Scale-I Posts, the
eligible candidates can apply before 16th July 2014 through online.
Further details regarding  Fees, Pay Scale, notification file will be
available now here.
Important dates remember :
Opened Date of Online Application : 30th June 2014.
Closing date of online Application : 16th July 2014
Online Payment dates : 30th June to 16th July 2014.
Date of Call Letters Downloading : from 04th August 2014.
Tentative Written Examination : 14th August 2014.
Posts and Vacancy Details :
Sr.No.
Name of the Category
No. of posts
1
General
151
2
OBC
81
3
SC
45
4
ST
23
Education Qualifications :
Candidates should be qualified Bachelor Degree in any discipline with
60% marks aggregation (incase SC/ST Categories must have 55% marks
enough) from any recognized State/Central University.
Age Limit :
Minimum -20years
Maximum -28years. Upper age limit belonging categories of
SC/ST/Ex.serviceman including ECOs/SSCOs/Domiciled of J&K/persons
affected by 198 riots -5years, OBC-3years & PWD- up to 10years
applicable )PWD (SC/ST-15years & OBC-13years).
Selection Process :
1.Examination
2.Interview
Application Fee :
Payment through Online Payment Method (using Debit/Credit /Master/Visa cards).
Category Name
Application fee
General & others
Rs.550/-
SC/ST/PWD
Rs.50/-
Visit official Website
Download Official Notification file
Apply Online Here
How to Apply :
Candidates are required to apply online through Bank of Baroda
official website and online Registration completed on before
16/07/2014.


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[AI] regarding job

2014-07-02 Thread Ganesh Babu

Dear Madam,
PL update my job. I am waiting for your reply.With regards Ganesh



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread Prashant Verma

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views. 

Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario. 

The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. 

I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. 

What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. 

When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. 

I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
to be more open minded and accommodating.  

It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners. 

I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. 

-Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.

I have 40 percent vision.

And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream
unless he has social or economical problems.

In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.

Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.

And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief.

Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both legs.

The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man.

And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by

saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to
tariff kar saku.

I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters
that please don't do this.

Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya
chahti hun.

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> You are very right!

> Preeti

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> Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala

> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM

> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 

> concerning the disabled.

> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 

> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

> 

> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a 

> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married 

> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of 

> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons 

> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be 

> related to our blindness

Re: [AI] A query on request notification in skype.

2014-07-02 Thread surendra salgaonkar

I am using 4.2.1 device, now how to set RingTone? I miss my Skype call all
the time.
Please reply
Thanks.

On Jul 2, 2014 8:39 PM, "Balaraman"  wrote:

> Hi,
> My doubt is, how can we get to a request notification in skype.
> People send me add contact request and I miss them.
> Is there any keystroke in skype with jaws scripts to get to such
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[AI] Fast forward in youtube

2014-07-02 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel

Dear friends while watching a video on youtube, I am unable to do the
video fast forward and backward with the help of keyboard. Is there
any way to do so?
I am using internet explorer 11 with jaws 14.
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Re: [AI] A query on request notification in skype.

2014-07-02 Thread pinkygupta0...@gmail.com

-Original message-
From: Balaraman
Sent:  02/07/2014, 8:39  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: [AI] A query on request notification in skype.

Hi,

if you are using Skype 6 or latest versions, along with skripts, just press 
ctrl + 2 and press home key once. Then use arrow keys and you will get your 
contact request sent. Then press application key on that. Now use up arrow and 
once you get the option 'add contact' press enter on that. Your request is 
accepted.

Regards
Pinky Gupta
Mysore

Hi,
My doubt is, how can we get to a request notification in skype.
People send me add contact request and I miss them.
Is there any keystroke in skype with jaws scripts to get to such 
notifications?
Your answers are highly appreciated!

Regards,

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Re: [AI] Fast forward in youtube

2014-07-02 Thread Surya Prakash Sharma

Hi,
no idea about PC. in case of qwerty Symbian phones just press and hold
left and right arrow key to move forward and backward.

On 7/2/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel  wrote:
> Dear friends while watching a video on youtube, I am unable to do the
> video fast forward and backward with the help of keyboard. Is there
> any way to do so?
> I am using internet explorer 11 with jaws 14.
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> M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread mahendra


Dear Ashita
why people give us jobs, if they can get sighted people?
are you working?
and there are enough sighted people jobless, or not?


At 10:19 AM 7/2/2014, you wrote:
Dear preety madam, I can understand through your 
real example that marriage between disable and 
non disable is not always disastrous But I am 
being reasonable in stead of being positive or 
negative. If a person gets able bodied life 
partner then why he or she should accept blind 
person? Madam, this isnât question of Indian 
or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. 
Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are 
describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. 
But if I will loss it, people will know me by my 
blindness more then my real name. If I will do 
something good, they will say: see that blind 
girl has done really great job. If I will fail 
in something they will say: bechari blind hai to 
thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always 
come first in our over all personality. People 
can accept us as a friend or employee easily 
with our blindness. But the same people will 
think twice before accepting blind life partner. 
Rather they will accept blind person as his or 
her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, 
Preeti Monga  
wrote: > Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of 
us here I hope? You all are all doing > 
wonderfully well... then why are we calling 
ourselves, or even indicating > towards 
ourselves as beggers! > > Life is our choice, 
you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let 
us > first of all choose to be beggers! We all 
deserve the best! How are we going > to convince 
the world that we are great human beings, when 
we are still > referring to ourselves as 
beggers? I think we need to begin at the very > 
beginning.  Incidently, we have a major 
disability, on top of that we go > ahead and 
subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first 
have to look at > ourselves as the true people 
we actually are! If we are still not able to 
do > this, how are we even expecting the non 
disabled society to look at us > differently? 
The world perceives you  in the same way that 
you look at > yourself! Please remember, it is 
that simple! This is our world, and we are > 
choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then 
why complain at the way we > get  treated? If 
you say your name is 'begger' then that is 
exactly what you > will be called as or refered 
to by others! This is what is meant by > 
conditioning. > > Please do understand, all, 
each one of us is the very best  and we have > 
equal right and  equal duties by this world! 
Perform your duties to the best > of your 
abilities, and your rights will come running 
after you! > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > 
Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > 
Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: 
preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: 
www.silver-linings.co.in  ; 
www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive 
Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. 
Training > Motivatioon; Stress Management; Soft 
Skill; Behavioral. Gifting  Corporate > ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; 
including demystifying > workshops  and 
counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive 
Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / 
Refining.. > > We  assure  high quality service 
marked with excellence and complete > customer 
centricity, forming Synergies as we go 
along. > > > > -Original Message- > 
From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf > Of Asudani, Rajesh > Sent: 
Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM > To: 
AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility 
and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: 
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are > 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners > > 
Well said Ishita. > Motivation is ok, but 
marriages between blind and sighted, without > 
compromise are rare.. > > Please remember 
beggars are not choosers > > > > 
-Original Message- > From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf > Of ishita kapoor > Sent: Wednesday, 
July 02, 2014 2:10 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list 
for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] . 
Re: my quriyocity are > 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners > > 
I have found the argument of bhavani sir more 
realistic. > Preety madam, if your aim is just 
to motivate us then your points are valid. > I 
have 40 percent vision. > And if I lose it no 
sighted person will even think to marry me even 
in > dream unless he has social or economical 
problems. > In that case a guy will marry me if 
he wonât get proper match rather > any girl in 
able bodied world, > Or if I can offer him lots 
of money if he is poor > Or I have nice job and 
he has no earning capacity. > Otherwise no 
sighted person will marry me just for the sake 
of charity. > And I donât have any bitter 
feeling for this belief. > Because everyone has 
right to choose a life partner who is equal in

Re: [AI] How to Remove Tables in Office 7?

2014-07-02 Thread Himanshu Sahu

Thanks Bhawanni Bhai. Yes, it is there...

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> go to layout ribben you will find all the options their.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Himanshu Sahu" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:26 PM
> Subject: [AI] How to Remove Tables in Office 7?
>
>
>> Dear Friends, as the subject line says, I am having word documents
>> containing many tables, which I want to remove.
>>
>> I am using Windows 7/office 7. I  am not able to locate the option
>> "convert tables into text" or similar to it, like which we do in
>> office 2003.
>>
>> So please suggest that how to solve this problem!
>>
>> --
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Re: [AI] hi friends hope all are doing well

2014-07-02 Thread surendra salgaonkar

Please write appropriate subject to be appreciated,


On 7/2/14, anil reddy  wrote:
> On 7/2/14, jitesh jain  wrote:
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>> secondyear who have english civics commerce sanskrit economics
>> softcopy of cec group.
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

agreed sir, if their would be no reservation in jobs for the disabled 
persons, i don't think that specially blind persons would get job in 
government sector. i should not write more on this matter because this will 
not fullfill the purpose of this topic.


- Original Message - 
From: "mahendra" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners



Dear Ashita
why people give us jobs, if they can get sighted people?
are you working?
and there are enough sighted people jobless, or not?


At 10:19 AM 7/2/2014, you wrote:
Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage 
between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being 
reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able 
bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, 
this isnâ?Tt question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big 
problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. 
Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will 
know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something 
good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I 
will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar 
paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People 
can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the 
same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather 
they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. 
On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote: > Hey, 
who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing > 
wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating > 
towards ourselves as beggers! > > Life is our choice, you are whatever you 
have chosen to be... so let us > first of all choose to be beggers! We all 
deserve the best! How are we going > to convince the world that we are 
great human beings, when we are still > referring to ourselves as beggers? 
I think we need to begin at the very > beginning.  Incidently, we have a 
major disability, on top of that we go > ahead and subscribe to being 
beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at > ourselves as the true people 
we actually are! If we are still not able to do > this, how are we even 
expecting the non disabled society to look at us > differently? The world 
perceives you  in the same way that you look at > yourself! Please 
remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are > choosing to 
remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we > get 
treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you > 
will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by > 
conditioning. > > Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very 
best  and we have > equal right and  equal duties by this world! Perform 
your duties to the best > of your abilities, and your rights will come 
running after you! > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > Director > > > > 
Mobile: +91 9871701646 > Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: 
preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ; 
www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in 
Head Hunting. Training > Motivatioon; Stress Management; Soft Skill; 
Behavioral. Gifting " Corporate > ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR 
Advisory; including demystifying > workshops  and counseling. Printing 
Solutions,  Incentive Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. > > 
We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete > 
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. > > > 
> -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Asudani, 
Rajesh > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list 
for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > 
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are > 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners > > Well said Ishita. > 
Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without > 
compromise are rare.. > > Please remember beggars are not choosers > > 
> > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of ishita 
kapoor > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list 
for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > 
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are > 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners > > I have found the argument 
of bhavani sir more realistic. > Preety madam, if your aim is just to 
motivate us then your points are valid. > I have 40 percent vision. > And 
if I lose it no sighted person will even think t

Re: [AI] regarding job

2014-07-02 Thread Ravi Verma

sir, my need your Contact no. . thank you


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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityare normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-02 Thread Sakina Dhariwala

Hi I totally agree with u sir, I've seen manny VI boys will marry a sighted 
and illitrate girl but not an educated blind girl. Later on they realise it 
but now too late or it results in devous also.

With warm regards Sakina.
- Original Message - 
From: "Prashant Verma" 

To: "accessindia@accessindia. in " 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocityare 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing 
anything

on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views.

Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario.

The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be 
ready

to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors 
desire

sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.

I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.

What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.

When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.

I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. 
Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally 
seen

to be more open minded and accommodating.

It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners.

I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are 
valid.

I have 40 percent vision.

And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in 
dream

unless he has social or economical problems.

In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is 
poor

Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.

Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.

And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief.

Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both 
legs.

The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man.

And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by

saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to
tariff kar saku.

I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all 
youngsters

that please don't do this.

Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya
chahti hun.

On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:

You are very right!

Preeti

Preeti Monga

Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646

Landline: 011 22781446

E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in

Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org Our

Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training

-Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -

Corporate ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including

demystifying workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive

Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete

customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

-Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM

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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are

no

Re: [AI] for typing software

2014-07-02 Thread Mohit Gupta

hello friends,

I have found three softwares as below on google search
1 typing ability
2 talking typer
3 typing tutor
Are these three softwares different? Which is open source software?



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> Hi,
>
> Please try demo of "TalkingTuyper" from APH. Info is at
> http://www.aph.org/products/tt_bro.html
>
>
> With best regards,
> Satguru
> ___,__.___
> "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
> or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mohit Gupta
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:42 PM
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> Subject: [AI] for typing software
>
> hello friends
>
> I want any accessible typing speed increaser software. Please provide me.
> I would be very thankful.
> Thank you.
>
> --
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> Rajasthan.
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[AI] IDBI Bank Recruitment 2014 - Apply Online for 500 Assistant Manager Posts

2014-07-02 Thread Sakthi TAB

IDBI Bank Recruitment 2014 - Apply Online for 500 Assistant Manager
Posts: IDBI Bank Limited has issued a notification for graduates for
admissions in IDBI Manipal School of Banking, Bangalore for 1 year
Post Graduate Diploma in Banking and Finance (PGDBF). After the
successful completion of the course, the candidates will be awarded
PGDBF from Manipal University and will be inducted into IDBI Bank as
Assistant Manager Grade-A. Eligible candidates may apply online from
30-06-2014 to 12-07-2014. For more details like age limit,
qualification, selection process, application fee, how to apply are
given below...

IDBI Bank Vacancy Details:
Total No.of Posts: 500
Name of the Posts: Assistant Manager
Name of the Category:
1. SC: 75 Posts
2. ST: 37 Posts
3. OBC: 135 Posts
4. PWD: 15 Posts

Age Limit: Candidates age limit should be 20-26 years as on
01-06-2014. Age relaxation for SC/ ST/ OBC/ PWD/ Ex-servicemen
candidates as per rules.

Educational Qualification: Candidates should possess Graduation from a
recognized University.

Selection Process: Selection will be made on the basis of written
test, personal interview.

Application Fee: Candidates should pay Rs.100/- for SC/ ST/ PWD
candidates, Rs.600/- for others through online payment through Master/
Visa Debit or Credit Card or through internet banking facility only.

How to Apply: Eligible candidates may apply online through the website
http://www.idbi.com/ from 30-06-2014 to 12-07-2014.

Instructions to Apply Online:
1. Log on through the website http://www.idbi.com/.
2. Click on the "Careers" --> "Current Openings".
3. Select the appropriate position --> Click on the "Apply Online".
4. Before applying online candidates should have valid email ID & Mobile No.
5. Candidates should scan the photograph & signature in the prescribed format.
6. Read all the instructions carefully.
7. Candidates shold fill the basic details in the application form
8. Candidates should pay the fee through online by using Master/ Visa
Debit or Credit Card or through internet banking.
9. On successful completion of transaction an e-receipt will be generated.
10. Candidates should take the printout copies of e-receipt.
11. Now candidates can click on the "Save & edit" button before
submitting the application form.
12. Check the details & submit the application form.
13. Upload the scanned photograph & signature.
14. Take the printout copies of application form for future use.

Important Dates:
Starting Date to Apply Online: 30-06-2014.
Last Date to Apply Online: 12-07-2014.
Last Date to Reprint the Application Form: 27-07-2014
Date of Online Test: 22-08-2014
Date of Issue of Call Letters: 08-08-2014
Date of Training at Respective Centers: 16-08-2014 to 21-08-2014


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[AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-02 Thread Manish Agarwal

good morning to all,
i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
along with the password.
is it correct.
pls shed some light.
thank u.

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Re: [AI] Trying to order smart cane: no responce to emails. Any Help?

2014-07-02 Thread smartcane project

Dear Rahul,

We apologize for the inconvenience, however we request you to email
smartcane's email address or sakshams info address directly in the future,
as Saksham is partnered with 18 other organizations for the distribution of
SmartCane. Kindly inform us, if the device will be used you in US or is it
a gift to someone in Pune?

We have not yet released the devices outside India, except that it has been
tested by two persons associated with RNIB London. We have received a
positive feedback from them.

We are resolving a few issues related to international release

1. A SmartCane user will be able to reap the full benefits of the device
though a short training session, helping them to get started.  Even within
India, we are tying up with organizations rather than directly selling.
These organizations act as our distributors while providing training. In
each of these organizations we have a few trainers (already trained) who in
turn orient the users. For the current status of our channel partners

http://smartcane.saksham.org/availability/

2. The second issue concerns the white cane being supplied by us. Note our
sensor is a detachable unit on a standard white cane. Our international
feedback (from RNIB) is that the quality of the cane being included with
the product is may not be adaptable in different geographic setting. As
these canes are being used by visually impaired in India and are
economical, as well as compatible with the developing nations, we are
distributing the device with this cane in India. On the other hand for
International customers, we are working with Ambutech to try and test the
product with their canes. Initial results are positive but we would have
the testing completed within a month or so and then the product would be
released with Ambutech canes for International customers. Of course the
cost would be higher as the Ambutech canes are much more expensive.

In the mean time, if you are aware of any organization in your area (USA)
who may be interested in becoming our channel partner, we would be happy to
talk to them.

-- 
Regards,
Anwesha Choudhuri
SmartCane
Saksham
486 Double Storey,
New Rajinder Nagar,
New Delhi – 110 060, India
Helpline : +91-11-64650655
Website : www.smartcane.saksham.org
Email : smartc...@saksham.org

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Divyanshu Ganatra 
wrote:

>  Dear All,
> My friend in US is trying desperately to order the newly launched
> Smart cane. He is based out of US and wants it delivered to a address
> in Pune, Maharastra. unfortunately he is not recieving any responce to
> his multiple mail queries. Can someone here help? its embarrassing
> that people are interested all the way from abroad, and we cant even
> respond to their simple query.
> I'm pasting one of his recent mail below for reference.
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Rahul Mehendale 
> Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Process to order the smart cane
> To: "h...@nabindia.info" 
> Cc: <>
>
>
> Dear sir or madam - I wanted to follow up on my previous email since I
> haven't heard back.
> - can you please advise if the smart cane is available for purchase at
> your location and you will ship to an India address in Pune?
> - please advise how I should pay with my international credit card.
>
> Best regards,
> Rahul Mehendale
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> www.dermograph.com
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Re: [AI] regarding job

Have you guys sent me your CVs? If not, then please do.

Am trying to get jobs for PWDs and hopefully will manage one of these days.

Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting  Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] regarding job

sir, my need your Contact no. . thank you

On 7/2/14, Ganesh Babu  wrote:
> Dear Madam,
> PL update my job. I am waiting for your reply.With regards Ganesh
>
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[AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-02 Thread Pawan Bundela

Hi all,
 Greetings for the day
I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
possible.
 so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know
its brand and moddle number.
Thanks and regards!
-- 
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Re: [AI] India has become the First country to ratify the Marrakesh treaty

2014-07-02 Thread Sanchit Katiyar

Complete document of the treaty can be accessed here:

http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/doc_details.jsp?doc_id=241683

On 7/2/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Great news but still 19 countries are yet to ratify the treaty to make
> it workable.
>
> http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/India-Takes-Global-Lead-in-Empowering-the-Blind-to-Read/847688
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Competency and contribution are also playing a big role in all this!
Of course Government jobs have reservations for us, but let us congratulate 
ourselves... we are working and performing! Hope you agree?
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 AM
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ashita
why people give us jobs, if they can get sighted people?
are you working?
and there are enough sighted people jobless, or not?


At 10:19 AM 7/2/2014, you wrote:
>Dear preety madam, I can understand through your 
>real example that marriage between disable and 
>non disable is not always disastrous But I am 
>being reasonable in stead of being positive or 
>negative. If a person gets able bodied life 
>partner then why he or she should accept blind 
>person? Madam, this isnâ€™t question of Indian 
>or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. 
>Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are 
>describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. 
>But if I will loss it, people will know me by my 
>blindness more then my real name. If I will do 
>something good, they will say: see that blind 
>girl has done really great job. If I will fail 
>in something they will say: bechari blind hai to 
>thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always 
>come first in our over all personality. People 
>can accept us as a friend or employee easily 
>with our blindness. But the same people will 
>think twice before accepting blind life partner. 
>Rather they will accept blind person as his or 
>her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, 
>Preeti Monga  
>wrote: > Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of 
>us here I hope? You all are all doing > 
>wonderfully well... then why are we calling 
>ourselves, or even indicating > towards 
>ourselves as beggers! > > Life is our choice, 
>you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let 
>us > first of all choose to be beggers! We all 
>deserve the best! How are we going > to convince 
>the world that we are great human beings, when 
>we are still > referring to ourselves as 
>beggers? I think we need to begin at the very > 
>beginning.  Incidently, we have a major 
>disability, on top of that we go > ahead and 
>subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first 
>have to look at > ourselves as the true people 
>we actually are! If we are still not able to 
>do > this, how are we even expecting the non 
>disabled society to look at us > differently? 
>The world perceives you  in the same way that 
>you look at > yourself! Please remember, it is 
>that simple! This is our world, and we are > 
>choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then 
>why complain at the way we > get  treated? If 
>you say your name is 'begger' then that is 
>exactly what you > will be called as or refered 
>to by others! This is what is meant by > 
>conditioning. > > Please do understand, all, 
>each one of us is the very best  and we have > 
>equal right and  equal duties by this world! 
>Perform your duties to the best > of your 
>abilities, and your rights will come running 
>after you! > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > 
>Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > 
>Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: 
>preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: 
>www.silver-linings.co.in  ; 
>www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive 
>Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. 
>Training > Motivatioon; Stress Management; Soft 
>Skill; Behavioral. Gifting “ Corporate > ; 
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>including demystifying > workshops  and 
>counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive 
>Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / 
>Refining.. > > We  assure  high quality service 
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>along. > > > > -Original Message- > 
>From: AccessIndia 
>[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
>On Behalf > Of Asudani, Rajesh > Sent: 
>Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM > To: 
>AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility 
>and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: 
>Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are > 
>normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpart

Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done! 

Just for fun... ha ha!

I dont think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier to
make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and time
and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?

Just kneed the atta and get going!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Pawan Bundela
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

Hi all,
 Greetings for the day
I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
possible.
 so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know
its brand and moddle number.
Thanks and regards!
-- 
pawan Bundela
Cell:  +919870873960,
+919029002476
e-mail:
pawan@gmail.com
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pawan.b87
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Prashant, 
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in 
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views. 

 

Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario. 

 

The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. 

 

I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. 

 

What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. 

 

When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. 

 

I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
to be more open minded and accommodating.  

 

It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners. 

 

I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. 

 

-Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of ishita kapoor

Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

 

I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.

Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid.

I have 40 percent vision.

And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream
unless he has social or economical problems.

In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any
girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor
Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity.

Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity.

And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief.

Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all
aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both legs.

The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man.

And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by

saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to
tariff kar saku.

I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters
that please don't do this.

Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya
chahti hun.

 

 

On 7/2/14, Preet

Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-02 Thread R C Gupta

   dear Manish,
any person or department can not demand to any type of password.
r c gupta
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Cc: "sayeverything" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:11 AM
Subject: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

good morning to all,
i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
along with the password.
is it correct.
pls shed some light.
thank u.

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Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-02 Thread Kanchan Pamnani


Yes.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
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Subject: [AI] an advice from legal experts.



good morning to all,
i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
along with the password.
is it correct.
pls shed some light.
thank u.

--
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email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
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Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-02 Thread SC Vashishth

Manish,

No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or internet
banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.

Beware of unscrupulous elements.

On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal  wrote:

> good morning to all,
> i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
> department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
> along with the password.
> is it correct.
> pls shed some light.
> thank u.
>
> --
> consulting & practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
> mobile:-09322896185
> email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
> skype-id:manish.agarwal56
>
>
>

-- 
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Subhash Chandra Vashishth
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Re: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer Jobs/Apply Online

2014-07-02 Thread Nikita Vaid

Hi All,
This advertisement is not for normal recruitment of 300 probationary Officers 
at Bank of Baroda, infact this is for admission to a course that is PG in 
Banking and finance conducted by Baroda Manipal School of Banking (BMSB) a 
joint initiative of Bank of baroda and Manipal education group.
After the successful completion of this course, the students will be absorbed / 
recruited  by Bank of baroda as probationary Officers.
The advertisement is for admission of 900 candidates  (300 candidates per 
batch) the break up of 300 candidates is just an example of 1 batch.
This is a 1 year course and the BMSB campus is at Bangluru

Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
-Original Message-
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Subject: [AI] Bank of Baroda Recruitment 2014-Probationary Officer Jobs/Apply 
Online

Bank of Baroda has issued Notification for Recruitment of 300
Probationary Officer in Junior Management  Grade/Scale-I Posts, the
eligible candidates can apply before 16th July 2014 through online.
Further details regarding  Fees, Pay Scale, notification file will be
available now here.
Important dates remember :
Opened Date of Online Application : 30th June 2014.
Closing date of online Application : 16th July 2014
Online Payment dates : 30th June to 16th July 2014.
Date of Call Letters Downloading : from 04th August 2014.
Tentative Written Examination : 14th August 2014.
Posts and Vacancy Details :
Sr.No.
Name of the Category
No. of posts
1
General
151
2
OBC
81
3
SC
45
4
ST
23
Education Qualifications :
Candidates should be qualified Bachelor Degree in any discipline with
60% marks aggregation (incase SC/ST Categories must have 55% marks
enough) from any recognized State/Central University.
Age Limit :
Minimum -20years
Maximum -28years. Upper age limit belonging categories of
SC/ST/Ex.serviceman including ECOs/SSCOs/Domiciled of J&K/persons
affected by 198 riots -5years, OBC-3years & PWD- up to 10years
applicable )PWD (SC/ST-15years & OBC-13years).
Selection Process :
1.Examination
2.Interview
Application Fee :
Payment through Online Payment Method (using Debit/Credit /Master/Visa cards).
Category Name
Application fee
General & others
Rs.550/-
SC/ST/PWD
Rs.50/-
Visit official Website
Download Official Notification file
Apply Online Here
How to Apply :
Candidates are required to apply online through Bank of Baroda
official website and online Registration completed on before
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Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

But Kanchan said 'yes'?
Preeti

Preeti Monga
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-Original Message-
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Of SC Vashishth
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

Manish,

No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or internet
banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.

Beware of unscrupulous elements.

On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal  wrote:

> good morning to all,
> i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
> department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
> along with the password.
> is it correct.
> pls shed some light.
> thank u.
>
> --
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> email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
> skype-id:manish.agarwal56
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Dear Prashant,
> Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
> Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
> meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
> Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
> socializing
> factor going!
> It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
> are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
> have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
> because of their disabiity.
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Prashant Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia. in
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
> on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
> views.
>
>
>
> Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
> about what should be the ideal scenario.
>
>
>
> The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
> willing to marry any visually impaired at all.
>
> If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
> to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
> have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
> sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
> Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.
>
>
>
> I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
> root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
> want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.
>
>
>
> What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
> partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
> impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.
>
>
>
> When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
> caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.
>
>
>
> I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
> around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
> marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners.
> Finally
> they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
> to be more open minded and accommodating.
>
>
>
> It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
> non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
> time will increase chances of finding partners.
>
>
>
> I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
>
> Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10
>
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>
> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic.
>
> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are
> valid.
>
> I have 40 percent vision.
>
> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in
> dream
> unless he has social or economical problems.
>
> In that case a guy will marry me if he w

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in marryingblind partners

very true bhavani sir.
if they can earn 60 to 7 per month i am sure they can have the best life.
though how much we need to spend good life that is subjective.

On 7/2/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> unfortunately, so called sighted and educated couples also engage tutor for
>
> their children. where they are doing their homework and reading writing.
> secondly, now these days most of the education system has shifted towards
> digitisation. If me and you can write a mail to accessindia, then a blind
> couple can learn computers and educate them. the culture of amusement parks
>
> still awaited in small cities of india. this culture is suitable in metro
> cities. the married couple whether sighted or blind often stay with their
> one or more relative, why the blind couple can not stay with their sighted
> relative? Even a sighted house wife requires a kaam waali baai, then why it
>
> is not applicable for blind? sighted house wives are just watching tv and
> passing the time ideally at home, why they don't do all their business at
> home?
> however, I am a strong opinion that in case of blind, both husband and wife
>
> should be an earning partner. this will subsidise their disadvantages due to
>
> blindness. if one of them is not earning, then it will increase the
> expenditure, because we have to pay for each and every services.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amar Jain" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are nnormal people interested in
> marryingblind partners
>
>
>> @Rajesh Sir: Noted with thanks.
>>
>> @Bhawani Sir: somehow I skipped your reply. I get what you are saying.
>> Lets not talk of the higher studies. Would be happy   to understand,
>> with a simple illustration like this.
>>
>> I am blind and you are sighted. May be we are equal in terms of
>> education. You can help your child progress at a very young age.
>>
>> Examples could be proper hand writing, well maintained body language,
>> helping child with the home work, projects (which even sighted people
>> find challenging now a days due to the increasing educational
>> competition), fansy dress competition, eating etiquettes, drawing,
>> etc. etc.
>>
>> You could play with your kid in amusement parks and let him do
>> whatever he wants. Whereas I may not be able to take part into certain
>> activities.
>>
>> You can see and safeguard your kid in a park even if he is playing
>> against your will. I cannot do so unless he gets hurt because there is
>> no way for me to see as to what is it that he is doing and whether it
>> is fine for him to do at this young age or not. I can simply be
>> worried and be hopeful that all goes well.
>>
>> In such a case, is there anything specific we as individuals could do
>> to make sure that there is a good connect between you and your
>> children or the answer is that the children develop that understanding
>> slowly in life?
>>
>> Now if I am blind and my spouce is blind, what are the solutions which
>> people adopt?
>>
>> To my mind the answer could be either that you depend on the support
>> of teachers (assuming that even they take the pain as if it was their
>> own kid), or you depend on your family members who are non-blind.
>>
>> That is one of the major challenge which I feel a blind couple can be
>> confronted with. And I want to understand based on the personal
>> experiences of the members the ways to tackle with the same.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Amar Jain.
>> Website: www.amarjain.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-02 Thread Pawan Bundela

Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!
>
> Just for fun... ha ha!
>
> I don't think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier to
> make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and
> time
> and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?
>
> Just kneed the atta and get going!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Pawan Bundela
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged
>
> Hi all,
>  Greetings for the day
> I am looking for an accessible roti maker for the visually challenged.
> the one, which we can use on an exact judgement, and beep enable if
> possible.
>  so please let me know if some one of us using it. also let me know
> its brand and moddle number.
> Thanks and regards!
> --
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> +919029002476
> e-mail:
> pawan@gmail.com
> Skype:
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>
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Yes, private sector hardly accepts blind employees.
reservation has a very useful purpose in government sector.

In marriage, though I am lucky to get a post graduate wife without a major 
compromise, but I endorse the fact that many blind persons do a lot of 
compromise for getting a sighted partner.
They are not fools.
The hard realities of life go beyond any inspirational lectures.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Dear Prashant,
> Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
> Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
> meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
> Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
> socializing
> factor going!
> It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
> are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
> have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
> because of their disabiity.
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Prashant Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia. in
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
> on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
> views.
>
>
>
> Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
> about what should be the ideal scenario.
>
>
>
> The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
> willing to marry any visually impaired at all.
>
> If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
> to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
> have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
> sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
> Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.
>
>
>
> I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
> root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
> want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.
>
>
>
> What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
> partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
> impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.
>
>
>
> When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
> caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration.
>
>
>
> I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
> around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
> marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners.
> Finally
> they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
> to be more open minded and accommodating.
>
>
>
> It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
> non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
> time will increase chances of finding partners.
>
>
>
> I am partially sighted and married

Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-02 Thread SC Vashishth

Yes to  R C Gupta's mail that any person or department can not demand  any
type of password




On 3 July 2014 10:52, Preeti Monga 
wrote:

> But Kanchan said 'yes'?
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of SC Vashishth
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.
>
> Manish,
>
> No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or internet
> banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
> accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.
>
> Beware of unscrupulous elements.
>
>
>
>
> On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal  wrote:
>
> > good morning to all,
> > i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
> > department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
> > along with the password.
> > is it correct.
> > pls shed some light.
> > thank u.
> >
> > --
> > consulting & practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
> > mobile:-09322896185
> > email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
> > skype-id:manish.agarwal56
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Warm regards,
>
> Subhash Chandra Vashishth
> Adv
> Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
> environment!
>
>
-- 
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Subhash Chandra Vashishth
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Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

yes, means?
Am I to supply my e mail password to IT department?
It cannot happen.
or cannot be allowed to happen.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:38 AM
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

Yes.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



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concerningthe disabled." 
Cc: "sayeverything" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:11 AM
Subject: [AI] an advice from legal experts.


> good morning to all,
> i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
> department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
> along with the password.
> is it correct.
> pls shed some light.
> thank u.
>
> --
> consulting & practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
> mobile:-09322896185
> email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
> skype-id:manish.agarwal56
>
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[AI] Job vacancy as a computer trainer at LV Prasad Eye Institute.

2014-07-02 Thread Aishwarya Pillai

Dear all,

Please check the following for the details of a job vacancy as a
computer trainer.
Designation: Computer trainer
Work place: LV Prasad Eye Institute, Hyderabad.
Job requirements:
1. should be able to teach computers using assistive software.
2. Should have good communication skills.
3. Should be able to speak English and Telugu.

Interested candidates can call us or mail us.  The contact details are
given below.
Ph: 040-30612841, 040-30612842
Email: rehabhelpl...@lvpei.org

With regards,
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Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-02 Thread Sandeep Gautam

Dear All,
First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread 
daily, but, nobody bother 
to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I 
corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will 
continue.. 

About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to 
take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it is 
a social one.

When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like, 
parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term 
successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My point 
is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a rational, 
practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.   

Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any reason 
not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired individual 
loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on circumstances and 
conditions. 
  
It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel 
themselves in winning situation. 

Sandeep





- Original Message -
From: Preeti Monga 
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Prashant, 
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in 
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views. 

 

Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario. 

 

The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. 

 

I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. 

 

What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. 

 

When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like
caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. 

 

I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all
around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the
marriageable age are not ready to  accept visually impaird partners. Finally
they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen
to be more open minded and accommodating.  

 

It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the
non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same
time will increase chances of finding partners. 

 

I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. 

 

-Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:

Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.

2014-07-02 Thread Manish Agarwal

thanks to all.

On 7/3/14, SC Vashishth  wrote:
> Yes to  R C Gupta's mail that any person or department can not demand  any
> type of password
>
>
>
>
> On 3 July 2014 10:52, Preeti Monga 
> wrote:
>
>> But Kanchan said 'yes'?
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of SC Vashishth
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] an advice from legal experts.
>>
>> Manish,
>>
>> No department or bank will ask you the password of your email or internet
>> banking. Bank gives option to update the email ids in online banking
>> accounts  but never sends an email seeking password.
>>
>> Beware of unscrupulous elements.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 July 2014 09:11, Manish Agarwal  wrote:
>>
>> > good morning to all,
>> > i do not know wheither it is true but,i heard that the income tax
>> > department has asked from all individuals to submit ones email id
>> > along with the password.
>> > is it correct.
>> > pls shed some light.
>> > thank u.
>> >
>> > --
>> > consulting & practicing physiotherapy(v.i.)
>> > mobile:-09322896185
>> > email id-manish.agarwal...@gmail.com;manishagarwa...@hotmail.com
>> > skype-id:manish.agarwal56
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Subhash Chandra Vashishth
>> Adv
>> Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
>> environment!
>>
>>
> --
> Warm regards,
>
> Subhash Chandra Vashishth
> Adv
> Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider
> environment!
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[AI] Accessibility to mobile phones

2014-07-02 Thread Joel Vergis

Dear friends:
I am Joel from Kerala. Let me introduce myself. I have done post
graduation in economics from MG university and have also passed
UGC/NET. I am a visually challenged person with hearing impairment. I
have been using a Nokia E 63 mobile with the speech support of talx.
Unfortunately my mobile fell in water and got damaged. I am planning
to buy another one. Please give me a suggestion on which mobile should
I purchase, including the brand and model number that can be supported
by a screen reader. I do not find comfortable using phones with touch
pad. Please mention the screen reader software that can support the
prescribed model. I will be greatful if you can reply as early as
possible.

Regards
Joel Vergis



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Interestingly Ishita,  a lot of the things you feel and write about are  true!  
society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin to think 
differently! Someone has to make a   beginning to bring about the change! So 
why not us?  We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and take what the 
world wants to give us, or get up and first convince ourselves and then go out 
there and make place for us!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
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–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
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Mining / Refining..

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Dear Prashant,
> Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
> Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
> meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
> Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
> socializing
> factor going!
> It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
> are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
> have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
> because of their disabiity.
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Prashant Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia. in
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
> on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
> views.
>
>
>
> Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
> about what should be the ideal scenario.
>
>
>
> The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
> willing to marry any visually impaired at all.
>
> If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready
> to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who
> have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire
> sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control.
> Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors.
>
>
>
> I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the
> root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also
> want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them.
>
>
>
> What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled
> partner then it may help solve few practical problems  but then a visually
> impaired partner also takes care of many other matters.
>
>
>
> When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disabi

Re: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged

2014-07-02 Thread Manish Agarwal

here r some of the web address which ig got from the net
Roti Maker - Libra Appliances Pvt Ltd
www.libra-appliances.com/roti-maker.htm

The Chapati Maker made accessible by us is available with an insulated
... as one of the renowned Automatic Roti Maker Exporters and
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On 7/3/14, Pawan Bundela  wrote:
> Hi preeti, I have asked about an accessible roti maker, just because
> we r in need of it in order to save time, and because of some of our
> personal reasons. now, the point is, if u r not using such appliances,
> then there is no point to answer such mails and making traffic on this
> list. those who have an exact info on it, will give an appropriate
> sallution. sorry, if I am being rood.
>
> On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> Shall  I come? I make good roties also will beep when it is done!
>>
>> Just for fun... ha ha!
>>
>> I don't think there is a roti maker that is accessible. And it is easier
>> to
>> make them yourself for the clean up and assembly takes so much work and
>> time
>> and then how does one keep the cockroaches away?
>>
>> Just kneed the atta and get going!
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
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>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Pawan Bundela
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:52 AM
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: [AI] accessible roti maker for visually challenged
>>
>> Hi all,
>>  Greetings for the day

Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

Thank you Sandeep for correcting  the subject line! I wanted to do so too, but 
replying to the mails blew me off  all the time. Thanks for the kindness!
You are right about the marriage part of your views too. It is a social thing, 
but ultimately only the man and woman have to live together! If they are not 
managing to pull on, then  things can go bad socially too! let us just 
undetrstand that we all deserve life partners, that is if we wish to marry in 
the first place, and we must look out for them in a more open way. Let us stop 
looking at marrying service providers but let us marry partners for life!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sandeep Gautam
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying 
blind partners?

Dear All,
First of all, unfortunately, so many mails are keep adding to this thread 
daily, but, nobody bother 
to correct the subject line (means its language and content correctness). I 
corrected the matter of the subject line and hope this corrected line will 
continue.. 

About this issue, I presume, Man/woman is not himself/herself independent to 
take decision. As we all know, marriage is not an individual issue rather it is 
a social one.

When this marriage age comes, lot of considerations play their role. like, 
parent concern, social environment, self-comfort, self-ease, long-term 
successful and loving relationship with partner as wel as with family. My point 
is that marriage is not just an emotional decision but it is also a rational, 
practical and irreversable(in normal condition) decision.   

Its true, emotions, love has its prominent place. And, I don't think any reason 
not to marry with visually-disable person, if a visually-impaired individual 
loves to other visually-impaired person. It all depends on circumstances and 
conditions. 
  
It is always a wise way to have win-win situation, when both persons feel 
themselves in winning situation. 

Sandeep





- Original Message -
From: Preeti Monga 
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:14:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my  quriyocity  are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Prashant, 
Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing
factor going!
It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
because of their disabiity.
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
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; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia. in 
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am putting down my
views. 

 

Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more
about what should be the ideal scenario. 

 

The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not
willing to marry any visually impaired at all.

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Inspirational lectures also play a great part in what we make our lives to be!
It is amazing what men, blind or not, think  about vives! Not many consider  us 
as life partners... most of us vives are there to serve the  role of house 
keeper, maid, mother of children, cooks and someone where  our husbands can 
take out their frustrations! Very few men even consider us as individuals like 
themselves! Therefore, when looking for wives, there are many many other things 
that have to be taken into account... not  only a friend and  partner of life! 
The thing which is known and understood before marriage as 'love',  flies out 
of the window maximum before the first month of marriage is over! Then the 
story begins! 

Maybe, that is one of the factors which is driving us all to continue to look 
for service providers instead of actual husbands and wives?

Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director

Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
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Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training 
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; 
Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops 
 and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and Marketing Data 
Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer 
centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:59 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Yes, private sector hardly accepts blind employees.
reservation has a very useful purpose in government sector.

In marriage, though I am lucky to get a post graduate wife without a major 
compromise, but I endorse the fact that many blind persons do a lot of 
compromise for getting a sighted partner.
They are not fools.
The hard realities of life go beyond any inspirational lectures.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

My father works with reliance industry since 30 years.
He has  never seen any blind person working in that company.
And I have observed that blind persons are working with government
institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO
And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000
So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability.
We are getting job because reservation.
I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But
society is not ready to accept us as a working people.
i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted
girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me.
can i consider them fool?

On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Dear Prashant,
> Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up!
> Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion
> meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there.
> Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the
> socializing
> factor going!
> It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there
> are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you
> have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not
> because of their disabiity.
> Warmly
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Prashant Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia. in
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything
> on this could attract all types of comments, still  I am puttin

[AI] Problem with combo Boxes:

2014-07-02 Thread Vidhya Y

hi Friends,
I am using Google chrome with jaws 13.
I have problem in accessing combo boxes in wwebsites.
if i press enter on a combo box and use arrow keys,
jaws does not read out the items in the list.
even I tried alt+ down arrow to open the list
and then down arrow to move through the items.
still it does not read.
 combo boxes work perfectly with firefox or Internet explorer.
is it not accessible with Google Chrome?
Thanks and Regards,
Vidhya.



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Re: [AI] my curiosity, Are normal people interested in marrying blind partners?

2014-07-02 Thread Amar Jain

Prashant Sir: as regards marriage of 2 blind individuals is
concerned, families play a big role I believe.

For instance my parents had no problems when I discussed my desire of
marrying with a blind girl. In fact my dad went on to an extent that
even if you require support for initial years till your kids don't
grow up, what's the problem? We are there.

They are of the opinion that when they can have a son who can do
things at his own, why can't a blind girl do. And I have seen many
instances of my teachers who are totally blind but they are enjoying
their life.

But majority of the families and I agree even the boys and girls are
not comfortable with the idea of marrying another blind. And I believe
the reason for this attitude is ignorance of the possible solutions to
the challenges which blind people as married couple may face.

We as blind individuals do know the problems, but not the solutions
which people adopt. For instance, genetic counseling is the solution
to tackle the issue of a child with disability. Likewise there are
others as well.


I would like to see a discussion happening on what are the possible
problems and solutions which are adopted by blind couple themselves
for a good married life.

Thanks to all those who responded to my queries, I got a sense of what
can be done according to you.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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