Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[P. Subramani]

   When SCs/STs can have reservations for promotions, why not the disabled 
persons? its  sucidal on those suggesting the disabled not to fight for 
reservations for promotions.  Infact, disabled should have more reservations 
than the  reserved castes/tribes.
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From: "Ketan Kothari" <muktake...@gmail.com>
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Dear Friends,

I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all the 
same:


We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.

We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
disability and risen to great heights.

I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
that will suit us.

If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
lucky in India.

I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
us also introspect and then comment.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:

SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the 
benefit

of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
while clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 
2013
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended 
to
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits 
only

at the time of recruitment.

 The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to 
provide
three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their 
departments,

companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which 
came

into force in 1995.


 The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for 
three

percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.

 Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation 
be

filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Neelima Surve]

Same is happening with me.


My case is well-known for many more people. My college has provided me
all aids & uplyances   as per the HC order. But, now they are not
ready to provide me any kind of work. Even though they have proof of
my work. What can I do in this case?

Regards,
Neelima
On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Tajwar singh Rawat]

ok and thank vashish sir

On 9/3/15, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
> You are bang on Vashishth Sir.
>
> I also know that, the issue was wrongly reported.
>
> We do not need to panic as much for now.
>
> On 9/3/15, SC Vashishth  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I feel the issue has been selectively reported by the TNN and is not true.
>> The issue of reservation in promotion for persons with disabilities was
>> not
>> there for consideration before the court in the instant matter.
>>
>>  I have tried to explain this on the blog post
>> http://disabilityrightsthroughcourts.blogspot.in/2015/09/supreme-court-on-disability-quota-in.html
>>
>>
>> On 3 September 2015 at 11:25, Tajwar singh Rawat
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir it is necessary for the popularity and good quality arrange batter
>>> equipment.
>>>
>>> On 9/3/15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>> > Dear Friends,
>>> >
>>> > I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all
>>> > the
>>> > same:
>>> >
>>> > We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
>>> > examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
>>> > promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
>>> > providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
>>> > right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
>>> > we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
>>> > complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.
>>> >
>>> > We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
>>> > disability and risen to great heights.
>>> >
>>> > I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
>>> > cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
>>> > that will suit us.
>>> >
>>> > If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
>>> > judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
>>> > lucky in India.
>>> >
>>> > I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
>>> > appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
>>> > disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
>>> > us also introspect and then comment.
>>> >
>>> > With best wishes,
>>> >
>>> > Ketan
>>> >
>>> > On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>> >> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>> >>
>>> >> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>>> >>
>>> >> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation
>>> >> in
>>> >> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the
>>> benefit
>>> >> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on
>>> Tuesday
>>> >> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>>> >> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's
>>> 2013
>>> >> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be
>>> >> extended
>>> to
>>> >> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits
>>> only
>>> >> at the time of recruitment.
>>> >>
>>> >>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>>> >> provide
>>> >> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>>> >> departments,
>>> >> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
>>> >> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which
>>> came
>>> >> into force in 1995.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
>>> >> three
>>> >> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion
>>> and
>>> >> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3%
>>> >> reservation
>>> >> be
>>> >> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with
>>> >> the
>>> >> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>>> >> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court
>>> that
>>> >> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>>> >>
>>> >> Vikas Kapoor,
>>> >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
>>> >> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>>> >> accessibility
>>> of
>>> >> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[SC Vashishth]

Dear all,

I feel the issue has been selectively reported by the TNN and is not true.
The issue of reservation in promotion for persons with disabilities was not
there for consideration before the court in the instant matter.

 I have tried to explain this on the blog post
http://disabilityrightsthroughcourts.blogspot.in/2015/09/supreme-court-on-disability-quota-in.html


On 3 September 2015 at 11:25, Tajwar singh Rawat 
wrote:

> Sir it is necessary for the popularity and good quality arrange batter
> equipment.
>
> On 9/3/15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all the
> > same:
> >
> > We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
> > examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
> > promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
> > providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
> > right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
> > we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
> > complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.
> >
> > We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
> > disability and risen to great heights.
> >
> > I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
> > cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
> > that will suit us.
> >
> > If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
> > judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
> > lucky in India.
> >
> > I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
> > appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
> > disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
> > us also introspect and then comment.
> >
> > With best wishes,
> >
> > Ketan
> >
> > On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> >> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
> >>
> >> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
> >>
> >> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> >> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the
> benefit
> >> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on
> Tuesday
> >> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> >> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's
> 2013
> >> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended
> to
> >> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits
> only
> >> at the time of recruitment.
> >>
> >>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
> >> provide
> >> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
> >> departments,
> >> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> >> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which
> came
> >> into force in 1995.
> >>
> >>
> >>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
> >> three
> >> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion
> and
> >> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
> >>
> >>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation
> >> be
> >> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> >> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> >> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court
> that
> >> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
> >>
> >>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
> >>
> >> Vikas Kapoor,
> >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> >> Skype Id: dl_vikas
> >>
> >>
> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
> of
> >> mobile phones / Tabs on:
> >>
> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>
> >>
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> >
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> > Cell: 9987550614
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Rahul Kelapure]

You are bang on Vashishth Sir.

I also know that, the issue was wrongly reported.

We do not need to panic as much for now.

On 9/3/15, SC Vashishth  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I feel the issue has been selectively reported by the TNN and is not true.
> The issue of reservation in promotion for persons with disabilities was not
> there for consideration before the court in the instant matter.
>
>  I have tried to explain this on the blog post
> http://disabilityrightsthroughcourts.blogspot.in/2015/09/supreme-court-on-disability-quota-in.html
>
>
> On 3 September 2015 at 11:25, Tajwar singh Rawat 
> wrote:
>
>> Sir it is necessary for the popularity and good quality arrange batter
>> equipment.
>>
>> On 9/3/15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>> > Dear Friends,
>> >
>> > I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all
>> > the
>> > same:
>> >
>> > We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
>> > examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
>> > promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
>> > providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
>> > right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
>> > we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
>> > complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.
>> >
>> > We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
>> > disability and risen to great heights.
>> >
>> > I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
>> > cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
>> > that will suit us.
>> >
>> > If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
>> > judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
>> > lucky in India.
>> >
>> > I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
>> > appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
>> > disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
>> > us also introspect and then comment.
>> >
>> > With best wishes,
>> >
>> > Ketan
>> >
>> > On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> >> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>> >>
>> >> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>> >>
>> >> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation
>> >> in
>> >> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the
>> benefit
>> >> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on
>> Tuesday
>> >> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>> >> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's
>> 2013
>> >> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended
>> to
>> >> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits
>> only
>> >> at the time of recruitment.
>> >>
>> >>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>> >> provide
>> >> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>> >> departments,
>> >> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
>> >> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which
>> came
>> >> into force in 1995.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
>> >> three
>> >> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion
>> and
>> >> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>> >>
>> >>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3%
>> >> reservation
>> >> be
>> >> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with
>> >> the
>> >> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>> >> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court
>> that
>> >> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>> >>
>> >> Vikas Kapoor,
>> >> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
>> >> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>> of
>> >> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>> >>
>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Tajwar singh Rawat]

Sir I am also suffering from same problems. I have given and keep my
problem with admin authority despite solving the problem give me
different type of excuse.
Management keep away very far from the advance technology because of
we are totally depend on sighted person.
With regard tajwar singh rawat.
Mob : 9637644817.


On 9/3/15, vivek doddamani  wrote:
> Dear Ketan sir, I am working in government office in new delhi since
> 16 years, I had done computer training in NAB delhi in 2000 on my own
> bases here in delhi not a single person working in Ministries have
> sent through office for computer training or provided JAWS for office
> work, nearly 80% of clerical & stenographers working in ministries are
> not provided computers I was using my own computer till 2006 after
> they provided computer & I was using JAWS crack till 2013 now I am
> using NVDA the reality on ground here in national capital for blinds
> working in offices is very worse for the part of blinds.  If you feel
> any doubt in my words you can do a servei
>
> On 9/3/15, Tajwar singh Rawat  wrote:
>> ok and thank vashish sir
>>
>> On 9/3/15, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
>>> You are bang on Vashishth Sir.
>>>
>>> I also know that, the issue was wrongly reported.
>>>
>>> We do not need to panic as much for now.
>>>
>>> On 9/3/15, SC Vashishth  wrote:
 Dear all,

 I feel the issue has been selectively reported by the TNN and is not
 true.
 The issue of reservation in promotion for persons with disabilities was
 not
 there for consideration before the court in the instant matter.

  I have tried to explain this on the blog post
 http://disabilityrightsthroughcourts.blogspot.in/2015/09/supreme-court-on-disability-quota-in.html


 On 3 September 2015 at 11:25, Tajwar singh Rawat
 
 wrote:

> Sir it is necessary for the popularity and good quality arrange batter
> equipment.
>
> On 9/3/15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all
> > the
> > same:
> >
> > We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
> > examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time
> > of
> > promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
> > providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
> > right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I
> > think
> > we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
> > complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.
> >
> > We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome
> > their
> > disability and risen to great heights.
> >
> > I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
> > cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
> > that will suit us.
> >
> > If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
> > judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
> > lucky in India.
> >
> > I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
> > appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
> > disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So
> > let
> > us also introspect and then comment.
> >
> > With best wishes,
> >
> > Ketan
> >
> > On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> >> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
> >>
> >> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
> >>
> >> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of
> >> reservation
> >> in
> >> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the
> benefit
> >> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on
> Tuesday
> >> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> >> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex
> >> court's
> 2013
> >> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be
> >> extended
> to
> >> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim
> >> benefits
> only
> >> at the time of recruitment.
> >>
> >>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
> >> provide
> >> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
> >> departments,
> >> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> >> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act
> >> which
> came
> >> into force in 1995.
> >>
> >>
> >>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, 

Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[vivek doddamani]

Dear Ketan sir, I am working in government office in new delhi since
16 years, I had done computer training in NAB delhi in 2000 on my own
bases here in delhi not a single person working in Ministries have
sent through office for computer training or provided JAWS for office
work, nearly 80% of clerical & stenographers working in ministries are
not provided computers I was using my own computer till 2006 after
they provided computer & I was using JAWS crack till 2013 now I am
using NVDA the reality on ground here in national capital for blinds
working in offices is very worse for the part of blinds.  If you feel
any doubt in my words you can do a servei

On 9/3/15, Tajwar singh Rawat  wrote:
> ok and thank vashish sir
>
> On 9/3/15, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
>> You are bang on Vashishth Sir.
>>
>> I also know that, the issue was wrongly reported.
>>
>> We do not need to panic as much for now.
>>
>> On 9/3/15, SC Vashishth  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I feel the issue has been selectively reported by the TNN and is not
>>> true.
>>> The issue of reservation in promotion for persons with disabilities was
>>> not
>>> there for consideration before the court in the instant matter.
>>>
>>>  I have tried to explain this on the blog post
>>> http://disabilityrightsthroughcourts.blogspot.in/2015/09/supreme-court-on-disability-quota-in.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 September 2015 at 11:25, Tajwar singh Rawat
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Sir it is necessary for the popularity and good quality arrange batter
 equipment.

 On 9/3/15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
 > Dear Friends,
 >
 > I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all
 > the
 > same:
 >
 > We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
 > examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
 > promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
 > providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
 > right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
 > we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
 > complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.
 >
 > We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
 > disability and risen to great heights.
 >
 > I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
 > cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
 > that will suit us.
 >
 > If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
 > judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
 > lucky in India.
 >
 > I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
 > appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
 > disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
 > us also introspect and then comment.
 >
 > With best wishes,
 >
 > Ketan
 >
 > On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
 >> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
 >>
 >> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
 >>
 >> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation
 >> in
 >> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the
 benefit
 >> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on
 Tuesday
 >> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
 >> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's
 2013
 >> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be
 >> extended
 to
 >> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits
 only
 >> at the time of recruitment.
 >>
 >>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
 >> provide
 >> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
 >> departments,
 >> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
 >> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which
 came
 >> into force in 1995.
 >>
 >>
 >>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
 >> three
 >> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion
 and
 >> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
 >>
 >>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3%
 >> reservation
 >> be
 >> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with
 >> the
 >> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts
 >> in
 >> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court
 that
 

Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[George Abraham]

We need to now fight for employers to provide Work and appropriate technology 
and accessible work environment for disabled people employed in Govt/PSU etc. 
This will empower PWDs to get promotions in the routine.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 02 September 2015 10:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Well, it was on expected lines.

Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a constitutional 
amendment.
So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.



सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in 
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit of 
the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday while 
clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013 
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to 
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only at 
the time of recruitment.

 The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide 
three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments, 
companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal 
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came into 
force in 1995.


 The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three 
percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and the 
disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.

 Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be 
filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the order 
in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in central 
government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that all vacancies 
would be filled up by the end of this financial year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Tajwar singh Rawat]

hi george sir, I am working in ordanance factory at Ambernath Thane
Mharashtra since 2005 any types appropriate technology like a computer
with jaws is not ready to provide dispite to mantion requirement.
With regard,
Tajwar singh rawat.


On 9/2/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
> We need to now fight for employers to provide Work and appropriate
> technology and accessible work environment for disabled people employed in
> Govt/PSU etc. This will empower PWDs to get promotions in the routine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 02 September 2015 10:52
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Well, it was on expected lines.
>
> Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a constitutional
> amendment.
> So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.
>
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[akshun mahajan]

It is indeed very shocking verdict by apex court of indi and more over
it is great irony that one side we are fighting to get our RPD bill
passed and other side SC and government is trying their level best to
curtailed our rights.
Lets see which NGO gonna stand for us on this.


On 9/2/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
> We need to now fight for employers to provide Work and appropriate
> technology and accessible work environment for disabled people employed in
> Govt/PSU etc. This will empower PWDs to get promotions in the routine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 02 September 2015 10:52
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Well, it was on expected lines.
>
> Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a constitutional
> amendment.
> So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.
>
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[vivek doddamani]

I agree with George sir, even in IAS cadar sc & st people have
reservation in promotions, but for disabled persons promotions from
class 3 to class 2 is denied, here I read somebody saying that
reservations in promotions is not necessary for disabled persons, what
a funny thing,

On 9/2/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
> We need to now fight for employers to provide Work and appropriate
> technology and accessible work environment for disabled people employed in
> Govt/PSU etc. This will empower PWDs to get promotions in the routine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 02 September 2015 10:52
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Well, it was on expected lines.
>
> Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a constitutional
> amendment.
> So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.
>
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Tajwar singh Rawat]

that's true leave long lifeand pass your life in C. and D. group

On 9/2/15, vivek doddamani <vivekka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with George sir, even in IAS cadar sc & st people have
> reservation in promotions, but for disabled persons promotions from
> class 3 to class 2 is denied, here I read somebody saying that
> reservations in promotions is not necessary for disabled persons, what
> a funny thing,
>
> On 9/2/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>> We need to now fight for employers to provide Work and appropriate
>> technology and accessible work environment for disabled people employed in
>> Govt/PSU etc. This will empower PWDs to get promotions in the routine.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>> Sent: 02 September 2015 10:52
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>
>> Well, it was on expected lines.
>>
>> Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a
>> constitutional
>> amendment.
>> So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.
>>
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>
>> 0712 2806846
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>> Co-Moderator
>> VIB-India
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>> laughter.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
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>> Behalf
>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>
>> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>
>> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>>
>> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
>> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
>> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
>> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
>> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
>> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
>> at the time of recruitment.
>>
>>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>> provide
>> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>> departments,
>> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
>> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
>> into force in 1995.
>>
>>
>>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
>> three
>> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
>> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>>
>>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation
>> be
>> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
>> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
>> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>>
>> Vikas Kapoor,
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>> Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI]

Then what happend to the 27 Feb 2015 verdict which was also given by SC 
while rejecting the review petition filed by govt of india challenging 
mumbai HC order legal expert please clarify it .


Thanks
HS Negi

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Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion



SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in 
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit 
of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday 
while clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013 
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to 
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only 
at the time of recruitment.


The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to 
provide three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their 
departments, companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities 
(Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act 
which came into force in 1995.



The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three 
percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and 
the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.


Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be 
filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the 
order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in 
central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that 
all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[vivek doddamani]

even on July 25th 2015 Supreme court strongly said 3% reservation
should be given in promotion also

On 9/2/15, HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI <harshvardhan.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then what happend to the 27 Feb 2015 verdict which was also given by SC
> while rejecting the review petition filed by govt of india challenging
> mumbai HC order legal expert please clarify it .
>
> Thanks
> HS Negi
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
> Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
>
>> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>
>> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>>
>> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
>> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
>>
>> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
>> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
>>
>> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
>>
>> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
>>
>> at the time of recruitment.
>>
>> The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>> provide three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>> departments, companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities
>> (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act
>> which came into force in 1995.
>>
>>
>> The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
>>
>> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
>> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>>
>> Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
>>
>> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
>> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
>> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>>
>> Vikas Kapoor,
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>> Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Avichal Bhatnagar]

I totally agree with George sir.
Now the time has come to fight for real equality.
Either pwd should also get same benefits in promotion like sc/st, or
their benefits should also be stopped.

On 9/2/15, Tajwar singh Rawat <tajwarrawat2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> that's true leave long lifeand pass your life in C. and D. group
>
> On 9/2/15, vivek doddamani <vivekka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with George sir, even in IAS cadar sc & st people have
>> reservation in promotions, but for disabled persons promotions from
>> class 3 to class 2 is denied, here I read somebody saying that
>> reservations in promotions is not necessary for disabled persons, what
>> a funny thing,
>>
>> On 9/2/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>> We need to now fight for employers to provide Work and appropriate
>>> technology and accessible work environment for disabled people employed
>>> in
>>> Govt/PSU etc. This will empower PWDs to get promotions in the routine.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>> Sent: 02 September 2015 10:52
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>>
>>> Well, it was on expected lines.
>>>
>>> Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a
>>> constitutional
>>> amendment.
>>> So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>>
>>> 0712 2806846
>>>
>>> President
>>> VIBEWA
>>> Co-Moderator
>>> VIB-India
>>>
>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> laughter.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>>
>>> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>>
>>> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>>>
>>> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
>>> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the
>>> benefit
>>> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
>>> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>>> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's
>>> 2013
>>> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended
>>> to
>>> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits
>>> only
>>> at the time of recruitment.
>>>
>>>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>>> provide
>>> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>>> departments,
>>> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
>>> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which
>>> came
>>> into force in 1995.
>>>
>>>
>>>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
>>> three
>>> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
>>> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>>>
>>>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation
>>> be
>>> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
>>> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>>> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
>>> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>>>
>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>>>
>>> Vikas Kapoor,
>>> Mobile: (+91) 989

Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Friends,

I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all the same:

We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.

We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
disability and risen to great heights.

I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
that will suit us.

If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
lucky in India.

I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
us also introspect and then comment.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Tajwar singh Rawat]

Sir it is necessary for the popularity and good quality arrange batter
equipment.

On 9/3/15, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all the
> same:
>
> We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
> examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
> promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
> providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
> right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
> we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
> complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.
>
> We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
> disability and risen to great heights.
>
> I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
> cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
> that will suit us.
>
> If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
> judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
> lucky in India.
>
> I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
> appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
> disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
> us also introspect and then comment.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Ketan
>
> On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>
>> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>>
>> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
>> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
>> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
>> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
>> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
>> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
>> at the time of recruitment.
>>
>>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>> provide
>> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>> departments,
>> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
>> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
>> into force in 1995.
>>
>>
>>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
>> three
>> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
>> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>>
>>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation
>> be
>> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
>> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
>> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>>
>> Vikas Kapoor,
>> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
>> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>>
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[AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Vikas Kapoor]

SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in 
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit of 
the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday while 
clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013 
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to 
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only at 
the time of recruitment.

 The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide 
three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments, 
companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal 
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came into 
force in 1995.


 The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three 
percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and the 
disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.

 Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be 
filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the order 
in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in central 
government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that all vacancies 
would be filled up by the end of this financial year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

Vikas Kapoor,
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[vivek doddamani]

Even I too read this news morning but I was shocked to read this news,
I cannot understand before the same supreme court passed verdict on 3%
reservation in both recruitment & promotion but now the same supreme
court is reversing its own order 3% reservation can be given only
during recruitment but not in promotion, I am verymuch feeling
depressed on this decision, we disabled people really required
promotion, this means we are once again done injustice, we struggled
from beginning we have to struggle till our death

On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[George Abraham]

What is the rule regarding SCST and OBCs?

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Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Even I too read this news morning but I was shocked to read this news,
I cannot understand before the same supreme court passed verdict on 3%
reservation in both recruitment & promotion but now the same supreme
court is reversing its own order 3% reservation can be given only
during recruitment but not in promotion, I am verymuch feeling
depressed on this decision, we disabled people really required
promotion, this means we are once again done injustice, we struggled
from beginning we have to struggle till our death

On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Himanshu Sahu]

I think, this reporting is a caricatured version of actual
pronouncement of SC on the date...
The SC was hearing plea  for disobeying court's order for filling
15000 vacant posts. SC dismissed the plea saying that implementation
is under way and accepted Center's reply that it will be completed by
31st March 2016...
In this context, SC clarified that it had not instructed Center to
fill all vacancies including on promotional basis, but had only
instructed to fill vacancies lying unfilled on entrance level...

However by saying this, I must admit here that I never had strong
belief that SC has given a clear verdict that government has to give
promotional reservation on backlog basis, rather it had given its
opinion read with PWD Act 1995 that "reservation" in job applies to to
"promotion" as well...
But with no explicit instruction to implement it within certain timeframe!
Experts, please correct me, if there is something else in this judgement!


On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Will have to read the judgement, but it seems SC was clarifying that its 
October 2013 verdict which is now the landmark for reservation for PWD does not 
include reservation in promotion.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:55 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

I think, this reporting is a caricatured version of actual
pronouncement of SC on the date...
The SC was hearing plea  for disobeying court's order for filling
15000 vacant posts. SC dismissed the plea saying that implementation
is under way and accepted Center's reply that it will be completed by
31st March 2016...
In this context, SC clarified that it had not instructed Center to
fill all vacancies including on promotional basis, but had only
instructed to fill vacancies lying unfilled on entrance level...

However by saying this, I must admit here that I never had strong
belief that SC has given a clear verdict that government has to give
promotional reservation on backlog basis, rather it had given its
opinion read with PWD Act 1995 that "reservation" in job applies to to
"promotion" as well...
But with no explicit instruction to implement it within certain timeframe!
Experts, please correct me, if there is something else in this judgement!


On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>
> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>
> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
> at the time of recruitment.
>
>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide
> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments,
> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
> into force in 1995.
>
>
>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three
> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>
>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be
> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>
> Vikas Kapoor,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
> Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Jairam Balasubramanian]

This judgement is really on expected grounds.
So nothing to be shocked about.
Well! My best wishes to all the career oriented VI Govt. employees.

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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, it was on expected lines.

Reservation in promotion for SC/ST had to be introduced by a constitutional 
amendment.
So, I was not at all hopeful of the same for PWD from the beginning.



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in 
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit of 
the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday while 
clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013 
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to 
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only at 
the time of recruitment.

 The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to provide 
three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their departments, 
companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal 
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came into 
force in 1995.


 The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for three 
percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and the 
disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.

 Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation be 
filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the order 
in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in central 
government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that all vacancies 
would be filled up by the end of this financial year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas


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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[Deepak Singla]

truly,
struggle begins as life begins and continues till we live!
It looks like that we are once again standing on the point from where
we have started!



On 9/2/15, vivek doddamani  wrote:
> Even I too read this news morning but I was shocked to read this news,
> I cannot understand before the same supreme court passed verdict on 3%
> reservation in both recruitment & promotion but now the same supreme
> court is reversing its own order 3% reservation can be given only
> during recruitment but not in promotion, I am verymuch feeling
> depressed on this decision, we disabled people really required
> promotion, this means we are once again done injustice, we struggled
> from beginning we have to struggle till our death
>
> On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion
>>
>> Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST
>>
>> NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
>> government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the benefit
>> of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
>> while clarifying its earlier verdict.
>> A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 2013
>> verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended to
>> promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits only
>> at the time of recruitment.
>>
>>  The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to
>> provide
>> three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their
>> departments,
>> companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
>> Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which came
>> into force in 1995.
>>
>>
>>  The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for
>> three
>> percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
>> the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.
>>
>>  Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation
>> be
>> filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
>> order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
>> central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
>> all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.
>>
>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms
>>
>> Vikas Kapoor,
>> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
>> Skype Id: dl_vikas
>>
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
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