Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 4:58 PM Jay Weekley  wrote:

> I bet the receiver lives that last play for a long time.
>
> Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> >
> > BYU lost its perfect win streak, that is what I am depressed about.
> > It was a righteous game.  Well matched.  Came down the final 3 seconds
> > and 1 yard…
> >
> > *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Macenski
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 11:22 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
> >
> > Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ken Hohhof  > > wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn’t think people in Utah would be so depressed that the
> > Bears lost again.
> >
> > *From:* AF  > > *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 12:06 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
> >
> > I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long
> > time. I know in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot
> > of cell towers for different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after
> > payday was always light on the construction crews/tower climbers.
> > When I asked a foreman where people were, he told me Friday was
> > payday. It was mostly the young, single guys, but it was pretty
> > much understood that there would be less done early in the week
> > after a Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who
> > didn't show up, but he told me that we'd be hard pressed to find
> > enough guys if we started firing everyone who didn't show up after
> > payday. It would be nice if everyone had a great work ethic, but
> > then again, it makes people who do look that much better.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF
> > mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to
> > the quality and quantity of porn.  Time domain. Please provide
> > graph…
> >
> > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
> > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  > >
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
> >
> > Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because
> > their generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not
> > sure where this comes from, but it seems to be accepted fact
> > among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a
> > crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.
> >
> > Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same
> > reaction as telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask.
> > Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, I know, get off your lawn, and you
> > used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both ways.
> >
> > *From:* AF  > > *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
> >
> > Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
> >
> > I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
> > transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys'
> > shenanigans...
> >
> > $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
> >
> > WTF...
> >
> > I earn my pay every fucking day...
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman
> > mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they
> > are sick they are out for the whole day. We feel it
> > protects the workers that show up on time.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF
> > mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they
> > think they might be able to make it by noon, do you
> > let them come in?
> >
> > Like why reward laziness/hangovers. But if they are
> > really sick, stay home and recuperate.
> >
> > Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from
> > gall bladder surgery last week, so it is understandable.
> >
> > Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a
> > payday smacks of drug usage in my opinion.
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

My daughter is a 32 year old Jr High Science teacher and has been on the 
receiving end of that comment.  Her reply: Just how old do you think I am?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Daniel White  wrote:
> 
> 
> And Baby Boomers resent that their parents were the "Greatest Generation" and 
> put on the uniform and served instead of tearing up their draft ticket, 
> smoking a lot of weed, and moving to Canada.  Hippies, acid, and Hitler's 
> people car bug should get thrown in there too.
> 
> Okay now I am having too much fun :-P
> 
> Every "generation" feels the one before it shafted them and the older 
> generation always feels like they are better than the one they gave birth to.
> 
> But apparently you don't have to be a baby boomer anymore to have a kid say 
> "okay boomer" to you.  One of my sons said that to me this weekend... and 
> while I don't feel like I identify with millennials I technically am one.  So 
> take that baby boomers :-D
> 
>   
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder
> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>> Ken Hohhof December 7, 2020 at 09:58
>> Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation 
>> got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but 
>> it seems to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student 
>> debt and a crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.
>>  
>> Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
>> telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old 
>> man, I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school 
>> uphill both ways.
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>>  
>> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 
>> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with 
>> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
>> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
>> WTF...
>> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>>  
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Jaime Solorza December 7, 2020 at 09:36
>> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 
>> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with 
>> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
>> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
>> WTF...
>> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lewis Bergman December 7, 2020 at 09:10
>> We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are 
>> out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Lewis Bergman
>> 325-439-0533 Cell
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck McCown via AF December 7, 2020 at 08:58
>> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able 
>> to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home 
>> and recuperate. 
>> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery 
>> last week, so it is understandable. 
>>  
>> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
>> usage in my opinion. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Ken Hohhof]

I was born in 1950.  My dad came home from WWII, went to college on the GI 
Bill, got married and had 2 kids.  I am the canonical baby boomer.

 

When I was in college around 1970, I didn’t know any hippies, but I can tell 
you the Vietnam War was not very popular with those of us in the draft pool.  
And while I don’t remember going to any antiwar protests, the Kent State 
shootings made an impression.

 

It is funny my kids assume there was no sex, drugs or rock and roll back then.  
Have they never watched an Austin Powers movie?  Or Cheech and Chong?

 

I did know one kid in college, his dad owned an engineering company and 
promised to sign it over to the kid the day he graduated with an engineering 
degree.  It took him 5 years, but he got the degree, and the dad kept his word. 
 The kid immediately sold the company and went to Canada to avoid the draft.  
The other thing I remember was he drove a Shelby AC Cobra.  Not a Shelby 
Mustang, an actual AC Cobra.

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:02 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Yeah those damn lazy millennial kids are all about to hit 40.

IMO, the boomer generation being anti-war hippies was simply a matter of optics 
because those are the people who were making the news.  Overall it's a 
conservative age group.  A slight majority of boomers voted for Richard Nixon.

 

On 12/7/2020 9:17 PM, Daniel White wrote:

And Baby Boomers resent that their parents were the "Greatest Generation" and 
put on the uniform and served instead of tearing up their draft ticket, smoking 
a lot of weed, and moving to Canada.  Hippies, acid, and Hitler's people car 
bug should get thrown in there too.

Okay now I am having too much fun :-P

Every "generation" feels the one before it shafted them and the older 
generation always feels like they are better than the one they gave birth to.

But apparently you don't have to be a baby boomer anymore to have a kid say 
"okay boomer" to you.  One of my sons said that to me this weekend... and while 
I don't feel like I identify with millennials I technically am one.  So take 
that baby boomers :-D

 


  

 


Daniel White
Co-Founder


phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766



Ken Hohhof  

December 7, 2020 at 09:58

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:





Jaime Solorza  

December 7, 2020 at 09:36

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?  

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...






Lewis Bergman  

December 7, 2020 at 09:10

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.





 

-- 

Lewis Bergman 

325-439-0533 Cell





Chuck McCown via AF  

December 7, 2020 at 08:58

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
usage in my opinion.  





 





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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Adam Moffett]

Yeah those damn lazy millennial kids are all about to hit 40.

IMO, the boomer generation being anti-war hippies was simply a matter of 
optics because those are the people who were making the news.  Overall 
it's a conservative age group.  A slight majority of boomers voted for 
Richard Nixon.



On 12/7/2020 9:17 PM, Daniel White wrote:
And Baby Boomers resent that their parents were the "Greatest 
Generation" and put on the uniform and served instead of tearing up 
their draft ticket, smoking a lot of weed, and moving to Canada.  
Hippies, acid, and Hitler's people car bug should get thrown in there too.


Okay now I am having too much fun :-P

Every "generation" feels the one before it shafted them and the older 
generation always feels like they are better than the one they gave 
birth to.


But apparently you don't have to be a baby boomer anymore to have a 
kid say "okay boomer" to you.  One of my sons said that to me this 
weekend... and while I don't feel like I identify with millennials I 
technically am one.  So take that baby boomers :-D


photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766


Ken Hohhof 
December 7, 2020 at 09:58

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their 
generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this 
comes from, but it seems to be accepted fact among Bernie 
supporters.  Like I have student debt and a crummy job and no love 
life because of the damn baby boomers.


Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same 
reaction as telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or 
yeah yeah yeah, old man, I know, get off your lawn, and you used to 
walk 5 miles to school uphill both ways.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with 
transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' 
shenanigans...


$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman > wrote:




Jaime Solorza 
December 7, 2020 at 09:36
Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with 
transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' 
shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
WTF...
I earn my pay every fucking day...



Lewis Bergman 
December 7, 2020 at 09:10
We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick 
they are out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that 
show up on time.




--
Lewis Bergman
325-439-0533 Cell


Chuck McCown via AF 
December 7, 2020 at 08:58

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might 
be able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?


Like why reward laziness/hangovers. But if they are really sick, stay 
home and recuperate.


Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder 
surgery last week, so it is understandable.


Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of 
drug usage in my opinion.







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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Steve Jones]

I get rotgut, most mornings is a couple hour ordeal before work, holy cow
if i eat yeast donuts in the AM or coffee before it settles. so there have
been times where I was out in the AM but in later in the day. I
dont believe in the saying Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, Thats why I
poop on company time. I dont think a boss should be paying me to sit on a
toilet. I had a camera crammed up my ass to look into this stuff like 12
years ago and you can rest assured I wont be having that done again, ill
just burn vacation time


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:20 PM Daniel White  wrote:

> If you call in sick you are sick for the whole day.  I don't want your
> crud (COVID-19 or otherwise).  I'd say absolutely if you go *cough cough*
> but I'll feel better by noon that has to be a hangover or something else.
> And in fiber construction... how much use are you showing up half way
> through the day anyways?
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder
> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>
> Chuck McCown via AF 
> December 7, 2020 at 08:58
>
> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be
> able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate.
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery
> last week, so it is understandable.
>
>
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug
> usage in my opinion.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Daniel White]

If you call in sick you are sick for the whole day.  I don't want your
crud (COVID-19 or otherwise).  I'd say absolutely if you go *cough
cough* but I'll feel better by noon that has to be a hangover or
something else.  And in fiber construction... how much use are you
showing up half way through the day anyways?

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Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766

> Chuck McCown via AF 
> December 7, 2020 at 08:58
>
> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might
> be able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate. 
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder
> surgery last week, so it is understandable. 
>
>  
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of
> drug usage in my opinion. 
>
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Daniel White]

And Baby Boomers resent that their parents were the "Greatest
Generation" and put on the uniform and served instead of tearing up
their draft ticket, smoking a lot of weed, and moving to Canada. 
Hippies, acid, and Hitler's people car bug should get thrown in there too.

Okay now I am having too much fun :-P

Every "generation" feels the one before it shafted them and the older
generation always feels like they are better than the one they gave
birth to.

But apparently you don't have to be a baby boomer anymore to have a kid
say "okay boomer" to you.  One of my sons said that to me this
weekend... and while I don't feel like I identify with millennials I
technically am one.  So take that baby boomers :-D

photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766

> Ken Hohhof 
> December 7, 2020 at 09:58
>
> Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their
> generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this
> comes from, but it seems to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters. 
> Like I have student debt and a crummy job and no love life because of
> the damn baby boomers.
>
>  
>
> Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same
> reaction as telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah
> yeah yeah, old man, I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5
> miles to school uphill both ways.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>  
>
> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 
>
> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys'
> shenanigans...
>
> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
>
> WTF...
>
> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>
>  
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza 
> December 7, 2020 at 09:36
> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 
> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys'
> shenanigans...
> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
> WTF...
> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>
>
>
> Lewis Bergman 
> December 7, 2020 at 09:10
> We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they
> are out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show
> up on time.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Lewis Bergman
> 325-439-0533 Cell
>
>
> Chuck McCown via AF 
> December 7, 2020 at 08:58
>
> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might
> be able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate. 
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder
> surgery last week, so it is understandable. 
>
>  
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of
> drug usage in my opinion. 
>
>
>

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

[Josh Baird]

I believe "config push" will still be a free feature.  At least this is
what John alluded to earlier - and I don't see it listed as a "PRO" feature
when I login.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Id like to know the pricing on long term data and multi tenant. I was
> reading the manual on multitenant and so excited then went to do it and was
> like damn, kick me in the balls. we are cloud
>
> I cant get SAS to set up right now, but if you do CBRS its more than
> config pushes (also not free)
>
> Does on prem let you do long term data?
>
> CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the product is too good to be completely
> free, there has to be some revenue for support and new feature engagement.
> Its along the lines of when Unimus was way to cheap to be sustainable
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate
>> free and paid versions.
>>
>>
>> On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote:
>>
>> No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL.  Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are
>> both here to stay.
>>
>> You can download the feature list here.
>>
>> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/
>>
>> It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add.
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> *Subject:* [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X
>>
>>
>>
>> So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?
>>
>>
>>
>> I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for
>> pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support
>> access if we really do lose audit logs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem
>> version is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)
>>
>>
>>
>> Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all
>> our eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful
>> tool, just less so going forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Steve D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to
>> lose if I don't go to X?
>>
>>
>>
>> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
>>
>> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback
>> on the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of
>> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for
>> a 90-day trial. *On April 5th*, your account will downgrade to the free
>> version of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.
>>
>> *Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:*
>>
>>1. Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and
>>the new 60GHz PTP solution
>>2. Long term historical data
>>3. MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
>>4. API and webhooks
>>5. Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>>
>>
>>
>> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Christy Meaney
>>
>> 847-264-2198
>>
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>> 
>> | LinkedIn
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>> | Community
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Steve Jones]

sawzall gets stuff down right quick fyi

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 7:02 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Instruction manual for that capstan hoist says just stop pulling on fall
> line and let the rope slip on the capstan.  It actually says to let the
> load start dropping and then press the foot pedal to run the motor for
> smoother operation even though the motor is running in the opposite
> direction.  I don’t recall that we’ve ever done that.
>
>
>
> If you’re not actually bringing down any loads just the rope, maybe unhook
> it from the capstan and “snap” the rope.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 6:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch
>
>
>
> Why not just use a fisk or figure 8 for lowing the heavy loads?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 7:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> That’s the most popular one.  No, it does not have powered reverse, you
> take a turn or two off the capstan and let it slip.  And yes it is slow,
> that is due to the gearing and goes with the load rating.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Matt Hopkins
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 2:10 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Capstan Winch
>
>
>
> I just bought a new winch (
> https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for
> tower work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully
> slow. Our old My-Te had reverse, (
> https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just
> thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and
> getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old
> and has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would
> just get another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What
> winch do you use? Any recommendations?
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

[Steve Jones]

Id like to know the pricing on long term data and multi tenant. I was
reading the manual on multitenant and so excited then went to do it and was
like damn, kick me in the balls. we are cloud

I cant get SAS to set up right now, but if you do CBRS its more than config
pushes (also not free)

Does on prem let you do long term data?

CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the product is too good to be completely
free, there has to be some revenue for support and new feature engagement.
Its along the lines of when Unimus was way to cheap to be sustainable

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate
> free and paid versions.
>
>
> On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote:
>
> No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL.  Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are
> both here to stay.
>
> You can download the feature list here.
>
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/
>
> It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add.
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X
>
>
>
> So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?
>
>
>
> I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X.
>
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for
> pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support
> access if we really do lose audit logs.
>
>
>
> I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem
> version is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)
>
>
>
> Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all
> our eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful
> tool, just less so going forward.
>
>
>
> -Steve D
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to
> lose if I don't go to X?
>
>
>
> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
>
> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback
> on the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of
> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
>
>
>
>
>
> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for
> a 90-day trial. *On April 5th*, your account will downgrade to the free
> version of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.
>
> *Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:*
>
>1. Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and
>the new 60GHz PTP solution
>2. Long term historical data
>3. MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
>4. API and webhooks
>5. Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>
>
>
> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> Christy Meaney
>
> 847-264-2198
>
> Calendar
> 
> | LinkedIn
> 
> | Community
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Ken Hohhof]

Instruction manual for that capstan hoist says just stop pulling on fall line 
and let the rope slip on the capstan.  It actually says to let the load start 
dropping and then press the foot pedal to run the motor for smoother operation 
even though the motor is running in the opposite direction.  I don’t recall 
that we’ve ever done that.

 

If you’re not actually bringing down any loads just the rope, maybe unhook it 
from the capstan and “snap” the rope.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Zach Underwood
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

 

Why not just use a fisk or figure 8 for lowing the heavy loads?

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 7:30 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

That’s the most popular one.  No, it does not have powered reverse, you take a 
turn or two off the capstan and let it slip.  And yes it is slow, that is due 
to the gearing and goes with the load rating.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Matt Hopkins
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

 

I just bought a new winch 
(https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for tower 
work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully slow. Our 
old My-Te had reverse, 
(https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just 
thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and 
getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old and 
has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would just get 
another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What winch do you 
use? Any recommendations?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Zach Underwood]

Why not just use a fisk or figure 8 for lowing the heavy loads?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 7:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> That’s the most popular one.  No, it does not have powered reverse, you
> take a turn or two off the capstan and let it slip.  And yes it is slow,
> that is due to the gearing and goes with the load rating.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Matt Hopkins
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 2:10 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Capstan Winch
>
>
>
> I just bought a new winch (
> https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for
> tower work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully
> slow. Our old My-Te had reverse, (
> https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just
> thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and
> getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old
> and has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would
> just get another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What
> winch do you use? Any recommendations?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Ken Hohhof]

That’s the most popular one.  No, it does not have powered reverse, you take a 
turn or two off the capstan and let it slip.  And yes it is slow, that is due 
to the gearing and goes with the load rating.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hopkins
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

 

I just bought a new winch 
(https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for tower 
work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully slow. Our 
old My-Te had reverse, 
(https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just 
thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and 
getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old and 
has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would just get 
another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What winch do you 
use? Any recommendations?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Jay Weekley]

I bet the receiver lives that last play for a long time.

Chuck McCown via AF wrote:


BYU lost its perfect win streak, that is what I am depressed about.  
It was a righteous game.  Well matched.  Came down the final 3 seconds 
and 1 yard…


*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Macenski
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 11:22 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


I wouldn’t think people in Utah would be so depressed that the
Bears lost again.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 12:06 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long
time. I know in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot
of cell towers for different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after
payday was always light on the construction crews/tower climbers.
When I asked a foreman where people were, he told me Friday was
payday. It was mostly the young, single guys, but it was pretty
much understood that there would be less done early in the week
after a Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who
didn't show up, but he told me that we'd be hard pressed to find
enough guys if we started firing everyone who didn't show up after
payday. It would be nice if everyone had a great work ethic, but
then again, it makes people who do look that much better.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to
the quality and quantity of porn.  Time domain. Please provide
graph…

*From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because
their generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not
sure where this comes from, but it seems to be accepted fact
among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same
reaction as telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask.
Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, I know, get off your lawn, and you
used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both ways.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys'
shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman
mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they
are sick they are out for the whole day. We feel it
protects the workers that show up on time.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they
think they might be able to make it by noon, do you
let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers. But if they are
really sick, stay home and recuperate.

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from
gall bladder surgery last week, so it is understandable.

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a
payday smacks of drug usage in my opinion.

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

[Adam Moffett]

I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate 
free and paid versions.



On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote:


No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL.  Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are 
both here to stay.


You can download the feature list here.

https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/ 



It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add.

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
*Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?

I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X.



On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use
for pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull
back support access if we really do lose audit logs.

I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our
on-prem version is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)

Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never
put all our eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll
still be a useful tool, just less so going forward.

-Steve D

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I
going to lose if I don't go to X?

What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?

hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and
your feedback on the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud
to announce the release of cnMaestro X this month, including
the Pro features you are using today.

Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on
cnMaestro X for a 90-day trial. *On April 5th*, your account
will downgrade to the free version of cnMaestro if you do not
wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.

*Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:*

 1. Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi
APs, and the new 60GHz PTP solution
 2. Long term historical data
 3. MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
 4. API and webhooks
 5. Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals

Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.

Thanks!

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Adam Moffett]

Or go the other way.  NY State programs have so much oversight that it's 
stifling and you can't get anything done.



On 12/7/2020 4:13 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
its almost as if when government gets involved there is no actual 
oversight and a ton of grift. ha, im just kidding, we need the 
government to run everything


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


I get that, but in these cases where I’m looking the location is
serviced by internal fiber such as a university or the power
companies own connectivity and so that’s why nobody else reports
service there but yet somebody’s getting money to cover it with
wireless.

Bigger than that though we now have three competing funds all
servicing the same areas.

We have RDOF, CARES, and ACT power grants. We literally have three
networks being built by three different companies over the same area

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Coran, Steve
mailto:sco...@lermansenter.com>> wrote:
>
> Every census block was assigned a certain number of "locations"
that are required to be serve.  May it is 1, maybe it is 100 or
some other number.
>
> Stephen E. Coran
> Attorney, Lerman Senter PLLC
> 2001 L Street NW | Suite 400 | Washington DC 20036
> 202-416-6744 (d) | 202-669-3288 (m)
> sco...@lermansenter.com 
> Twitter | LinkedIn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: members-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:28 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; mailto:memb...@wispa.org>> mailto:memb...@wispa.org>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million
from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states
>
> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab.
They literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes
big areas that don’t have people in them.
>
> It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric
substation’s and athletic fields and other places where no one
lives and that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab.
They literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes
big areas that don’t have people in them.
>>
>> It appears they have applied for funding to service the
electric substation’s and athletic fields and other places where
no one lives and that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X

[John Seaman via AF]

No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL.  Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are both 
here to stay.
You can download the feature list here.
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/
It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add.
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?

I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X.


On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D 
mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for pushing 
mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support access if we 
really do lose audit logs.

I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem version is 
deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)

Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all our 
eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful tool, just 
less so going forward.

-Steve D



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie 
mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose if 
I don't go to X?

What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?

hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on 
the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of 
cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.





Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a 
90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version of 
cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.

Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:

  1.  Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new 
60GHz PTP solution
  2.  Long term historical data
  3.  MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
  4.  API and webhooks
  5.  Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals



Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.



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Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

[Matt Hoppes]

So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL?

I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X. 

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D  wrote:
> 
> 
> Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for 
> pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support 
> access if we really do lose audit logs.
> 
> I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem version 
> is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)
> 
> Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all our 
> eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful tool, 
> just less so going forward.
> 
> -Steve D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose 
>> if I don't go to X?
>> 
>> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
>> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on 
>> the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of 
>> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a 
>> 90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version 
>> of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.  
>> 
>> Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:
>> 
>> Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new 
>> 60GHz PTP solution
>> Long term historical data
>> MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
>> API and webhooks
>> Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>>  
>> 
>> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details. 
>> 
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>> 
>> Thanks!
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>> 
>> 847-264-2198
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] cnmaestro X

[John Seaman via AF]

Sam, A lot of the “X” features don’t really apply to fixed wireless/PMP/etc. 
They are more related to enterprise Wi-Fi/MSP.   The basic version will 
continue to be free, even for your large sub count.  If you notice in your 
current cnMaestro account there are certain features labeled as Pro.  Those 
features will require subscription to X.The ones most likely to be missed 
are audit logs and reports.  The free version continues to support onboarding, 
monitoring, configuring, notifications/alarms, sw updates, performance KPIs, 
etc.

John

From: AF  On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [ External ] [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose if 
I don't go to X?

What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?

hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on 
the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of 
cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.





Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a 
90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version of 
cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.

Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:

  1.  Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new 
60GHz PTP solution
  2.  Long term historical data
  3.  MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
  4.  API and webhooks
  5.  Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals



Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.



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Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

[Steve D]

Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for
pushing mass-config changes and firmware.  I might even pull back support
access if we really do lose audit logs.

I'll miss the reports it generated.  (At least, whenever our on-prem
version is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...)

Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all
our eggs into the basket, so to speak.  I think it'll still be a useful
tool, just less so going forward.

-Steve D



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to
> lose if I don't go to X?
>
> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
>
> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback
> on the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of
> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
>
>
>
>
>
> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for
> a 90-day trial. *On April 5th*, your account will downgrade to the free
> version of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.
>
> *Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:*
>
>1. Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and
>the new 60GHz PTP solution
>2. Long term historical data
>3. MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
>4. API and webhooks
>5. Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>
>
>
> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Christy Meaney
>
> 847-264-2198
>
> Calendar
> 
> | LinkedIn
> 
> | Community
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Not yet.  I just started another business… kinda… a division.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:44 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Don’t most boomers live in condos without lawns now?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 4:40 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Actually Clint was from the silent generation.  Not sure what the boomer 
equivalent of that is.  Perhaps “far out man”.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:35 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Off the lawn, now!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Ok boomers.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:59 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
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Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

[Eric Muehleisen]

It's my understanding that this is the same as cnMaestro 2.x. It's free but
you can enable some features for additional costs.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:38 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> I haven’t seen this email. 
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
> 
> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to
> lose if I don't go to X?
>
> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
>
> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback
> on the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of
> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
>
>
>
>
>
> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for
> a 90-day trial. *On April 5th*, your account will downgrade to the free
> version of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.
>
> *Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:*
>
>1. Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and
>the new 60GHz PTP solution
>2. Long term historical data
>3. MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
>4. API and webhooks
>5. Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>
>
>
> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[James Howard]

Don’t most boomers live in condos without lawns now?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 4:40 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Actually Clint was from the silent generation.  Not sure what the boomer 
equivalent of that is.  Perhaps “far out man”.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:35 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Off the lawn, now!

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Ok boomers.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:59 AM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
WTF...
I earn my pay every fucking day...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman 
mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?
Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.
Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Actually Clint was from the silent generation.  Not sure what the boomer 
equivalent of that is.  Perhaps “far out man”.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:35 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Off the lawn, now!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Ok boomers.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:59 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
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Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X

[Matt Hoppes]

I haven’t seen this email. 

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
> 
> 
> Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to lose 
> if I don't go to X?
> 
> What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?
> hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback on 
> the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of 
> cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a 
> 90-day trial. On April 5th, your account will downgrade to the free version 
> of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.  
> 
> Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:
> 
> Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the new 
> 60GHz PTP solution
> Long term historical data
> MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
> API and webhooks
> Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals
>  
> 
> Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details. 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  
>  
> Christy Meaney
> 
> 847-264-2198
> 
> Calendar | LinkedIn | Community | Email
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Off the lawn, now!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Ok boomers.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:59 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Chuck McCown via AF]

You could add a reversing switch to the motor itself.  A small box with a 
toggle switch.  Does it have brushes?  If so just a reversing switch on either 
the field or armature will do the trick.  4 wires.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hopkins
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

 

No can do on this one. The AC feed goes into the pedal first and then on to the 
winch. The pedal is basically a light switch.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:10 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

can you swap pedals? its normally just a polarity reverse int he pedal

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Matt Hopkins mailto:mhopk...@onlinenw.com> > wrote:

I just bought a new winch 
(https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for tower 
work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully slow. Our 
old My-Te had reverse, 
(https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just 
thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and 
getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old and 
has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would just get 
another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What winch do you 
use? Any recommendations?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Steve D]

Ok boomers.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:59 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their
> generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes
> from, but it seems to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I
> have student debt and a crummy job and no love life because of the damn
> baby boomers.
>
>
>
> Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as
> telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old
> man, I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school
> uphill both ways.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>
>
> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
>
> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
>
> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
>
> WTF...
>
> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are
> out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be
> able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate.
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery
> last week, so it is understandable.
>
>
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug
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[AFMUG] cnmaestro X

[Sam Lambie]

Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to
lose if I don't go to X?

What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub?

hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback
on the Pro features. Cambium Networks is proud to announce the release of
cnMaestro X this month, including the Pro features you are using today.





Starting January 4th, you will have the option to turn on cnMaestro X for a
90-day trial. *On April 5th*, your account will downgrade to the free
version of cnMaestro if you do not wish to upgrade to cnMaestro X.

*Below are a few cnMaestro X highlights:*

   1. Support for Software Defined Radios, high-density Wi-Fi APs, and the
   new 60GHz PTP solution
   2. Long term historical data
   3. MSP features including managed tenant accounts & branding
   4. API and webhooks
   5. Higher limits for ePSK, admin accounts, and captive portals



Please contact your distributor or partner for pricing details.



Thanks!



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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Matt Hopkins]

No can do on this one. The AC feed goes into the pedal first and then on to
the winch. The pedal is basically a light switch.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:10 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> can you swap pedals? its normally just a polarity reverse int he pedal
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Matt Hopkins  wrote:
>
>> I just bought a new winch (
>> https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for
>> tower work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully
>> slow. Our old My-Te had reverse, (
>> https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just
>> thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and
>> getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old
>> and has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would
>> just get another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What
>> winch do you use? Any recommendations?
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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Depending on the type of motor, it can be pretty easy.  Have to bring some 
wires out of it and put them on a reversing switch.

 

I guess wrap the rope around it in the opposite direction?  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:15 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

 

It uses an AC motor. Getting one to reverse means swapping fields. Not 
impossible, but kind of a hassle. I bet it would void any warranty.

bp


On 12/7/2020 1:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

can you swap pedals? its normally just a polarity reverse int he pedal

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Matt Hopkins mailto:mhopk...@onlinenw.com> > wrote:

I just bought a new winch 
(https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for tower 
work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully slow. Our 
old My-Te had reverse, 
(https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just 
thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and 
getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old and 
has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would just get 
another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What winch do you 
use? Any recommendations? 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Bill Prince]

  
  
It uses an AC motor. Getting one to reverse means swapping
  fields. Not impossible, but kind of a hassle. I bet it would void
  any warranty.

bp

On 12/7/2020 1:10 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:


  
  can you swap pedals? its normally just a polarity
reverse int he pedal
  
  
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM
  Matt Hopkins  wrote:


      I just bought a new winch (https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist)
for tower work but to my surprise it does not have reverse,
and it's painfully slow. Our old My-Te had reverse, (https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3)
I just thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy
for lowering loads and getting them in just the right
position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old and has certainly
paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would just
get another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load
capacity. What winch do you use? Any recommendations?


  
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Steve Jones]

its almost as if when government gets involved there is no actual oversight
and a ton of grift. ha, im just kidding, we need the government to run
everything

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> I get that, but in these cases where I’m looking the location is serviced
> by internal fiber such as a university or the power companies own
> connectivity and so that’s why nobody else reports service there but yet
> somebody’s getting money to cover it with wireless.
>
> Bigger than that though we now have three competing funds all servicing
> the same areas.
>
> We have RDOF, CARES, and ACT power grants. We literally have three
> networks being built by three different companies over the same area
>
> > On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Coran, Steve 
> wrote:
> >
> > Every census block was assigned a certain number of "locations" that
> are required to be serve.  May it is 1, maybe it is 100 or some other
> number.
> >
> > Stephen E. Coran
> > Attorney, Lerman Senter PLLC
> > 2001 L Street NW | Suite 400 | Washington DC 20036
> > 202-416-6744 (d) | 202-669-3288 (m)
> > sco...@lermansenter.com
> > Twitter | LinkedIn
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf
> Of Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:28 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; <
> memb...@wispa.org> 
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC
> to subsidize Starlink in 35 states
> >
> > So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They
> literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that
> don’t have people in them.
> >
> > It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric
> substation’s and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and
> that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
> >
> >> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They
> literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that
> don’t have people in them.
> >>
> >> It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric
> substation’s and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and
> that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
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Re: [AFMUG] Multiple Federal Funds Overbuilding - WAS Re: SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Steve Jones]

waiting to see what kind of garbage gets built

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:17 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> So this is good...
>
>
> CARES funding, RDOF and ARC funding have now all funded multiple million
> dollar broadband networks that cover over each other.
>
> What a mess. this is crazy.
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Bill Prince]

When your coverage (e.g. Starlink) is over 1,000,000 square miles, does 
the density even matter?



bp


On 12/7/2020 1:08 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Not when you have 5 people per mile.


On Dec 7, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

Maybe that's good for competition?


bp



On 12/7/2020 1:00 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
I get that, but in these cases where I’m looking the location is serviced by 
internal fiber such as a university or the power companies own connectivity and 
so that’s why nobody else reports service there but yet somebody’s getting 
money to cover it with wireless.

Bigger than that though we now have three competing funds all servicing the 
same areas.

We have RDOF, CARES, and ACT power grants. We literally have three networks 
being built by three different companies over the same area


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Coran, Steve  wrote:

Every census block was assigned a certain number of "locations" that are 
required to be serve.  May it is 1, maybe it is 100 or some other number.

Stephen E. Coran
Attorney, Lerman Senter PLLC
2001 L Street NW | Suite 400 | Washington DC 20036
202-416-6744 (d) | 202-669-3288 (m)
sco...@lermansenter.com
Twitter | LinkedIn


-Original Message-
From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of Matt 
Hoppes
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ;  

Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to 
subsidize Starlink in 35 states

So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
people in them.

It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why there’s 
no broadband being reported.


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
people in them.

It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why there’s 
no broadband being reported.

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Re: [AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Steve Jones]

can you swap pedals? its normally just a polarity reverse int he pedal

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Matt Hopkins  wrote:

> I just bought a new winch (
> https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for
> tower work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully
> slow. Our old My-Te had reverse, (
> https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just
> thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and
> getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old
> and has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would
> just get another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What
> winch do you use? Any recommendations?
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

Not when you have 5 people per mile. 

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> Maybe that's good for competition?
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 12/7/2020 1:00 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> I get that, but in these cases where I’m looking the location is serviced by 
>> internal fiber such as a university or the power companies own connectivity 
>> and so that’s why nobody else reports service there but yet somebody’s 
>> getting money to cover it with wireless.
>> 
>> Bigger than that though we now have three competing funds all servicing the 
>> same areas.
>> 
>> We have RDOF, CARES, and ACT power grants. We literally have three networks 
>> being built by three different companies over the same area
>> 
 On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Coran, Steve  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Every census block was assigned a certain number of "locations" that are 
>>> required to be serve.  May it is 1, maybe it is 100 or some other number.
>>> 
>>> Stephen E. Coran
>>> Attorney, Lerman Senter PLLC
>>> 2001 L Street NW | Suite 400 | Washington DC 20036
>>> 202-416-6744 (d) | 202-669-3288 (m)
>>> sco...@lermansenter.com
>>> Twitter | LinkedIn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
>>> Matt Hoppes
>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:28 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ;  
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to 
>>> subsidize Starlink in 35 states
>>> 
>>> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They 
>>> literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that 
>>> don’t have people in them.
>>> 
>>> It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric 
>>> substation’s and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and 
>>> that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
>>> 
 On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes 
  wrote:
 
 So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They 
 literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that 
 don’t have people in them.
 
 It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric 
 substation’s and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and 
 that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Bill Prince]

Maybe that's good for competition?


bp


On 12/7/2020 1:00 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

I get that, but in these cases where I’m looking the location is serviced by 
internal fiber such as a university or the power companies own connectivity and 
so that’s why nobody else reports service there but yet somebody’s getting 
money to cover it with wireless.

Bigger than that though we now have three competing funds all servicing the 
same areas.

We have RDOF, CARES, and ACT power grants. We literally have three networks 
being built by three different companies over the same area


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Coran, Steve  wrote:

Every census block was assigned a certain number of "locations" that are 
required to be serve.  May it is 1, maybe it is 100 or some other number.

Stephen E. Coran
Attorney, Lerman Senter PLLC
2001 L Street NW | Suite 400 | Washington DC 20036
202-416-6744 (d) | 202-669-3288 (m)
sco...@lermansenter.com
Twitter | LinkedIn


-Original Message-
From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of Matt 
Hoppes
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ;  

Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to 
subsidize Starlink in 35 states

So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
people in them.

It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why there’s 
no broadband being reported.


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes  
wrote:

So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
people in them.

It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why there’s 
no broadband being reported.

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

I get that, but in these cases where I’m looking the location is serviced by 
internal fiber such as a university or the power companies own connectivity and 
so that’s why nobody else reports service there but yet somebody’s getting 
money to cover it with wireless.

Bigger than that though we now have three competing funds all servicing the 
same areas.

We have RDOF, CARES, and ACT power grants. We literally have three networks 
being built by three different companies over the same area

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Coran, Steve  wrote:
> 
> Every census block was assigned a certain number of "locations" that are 
> required to be serve.  May it is 1, maybe it is 100 or some other number.
> 
> Stephen E. Coran
> Attorney, Lerman Senter PLLC
> 2001 L Street NW | Suite 400 | Washington DC 20036
> 202-416-6744 (d) | 202-669-3288 (m)
> sco...@lermansenter.com
> Twitter | LinkedIn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of Matt 
> Hoppes
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 3:28 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ;  
> 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to 
> subsidize Starlink in 35 states
> 
> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
> have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
> people in them.
> 
> It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
> and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why 
> there’s no broadband being reported.
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They 
>> literally have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that 
>> don’t have people in them.
>> 
>> It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric 
>> substation’s and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and 
>> that’s why there’s no broadband being reported.
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
people in them.

It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why there’s 
no broadband being reported.

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
> have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
> people in them.
> 
> It appears they have applied for funding to service the electric substation’s 
> and athletic fields and other places where no one lives and that’s why 
> there’s no broadband being reported.

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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

So we just looked into this and SpaceX is doing a power grab. They literally 
have little dots around the area up and sometimes big areas that don’t have 
people in them.

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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Cameron Crum]

LTD is Corey Hauer. Smart guy, knows his stuff. Glad he got it. At least
he'll do it right.


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES,
> whatever they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the
> incumbents.
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
>
>> I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a bigger
>> $1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states;
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Well, f**k me.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Mike Hammett]

I assume all of the big networks are junk. ;-) 




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- Original Message -

From: "Colin Stanners"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:18:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 
35 states 



Is JAB/Digis/RIse still the biggest name down there in WISPs? 



Sounds like Canada's Xplornet in size and constant acquisitions; don't know 
where they are in comparison for quality of service and support. 




On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Eric Muehleisen < ericm...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES, whatever 
they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the incumbents. 



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote: 




I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a bigger $1.32 
billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states; 


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM < fiber...@mail.com > wrote: 


Well, f**k me. 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
 


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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Multiple Federal Funds Overbuilding - WAS Re: SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

I do. The map shows the areas. 

Also Windstream won RDOF on top of CARES on top of ARC. 

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:18 PM, Coran, Steve  wrote:
> 
> This assume you know where SpaceX has won.  And they have a long way to go 
> before they get funded.
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> [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states
> 
> So this is good...
> 
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> CARES funding, RDOF and ARC funding have now all funded multiple million 
> dollar broadband networks that cover over each other.
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> What a mess. this is crazy.
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Colin Stanners]

Is JAB/Digis/RIse still the biggest name down there in WISPs?

Sounds like Canada's Xplornet in size and constant acquisitions; don't know
where they are in comparison for quality of service and support.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES,
> whatever they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the
> incumbents.
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
>
>> I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a bigger
>> $1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states;
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Well, f**k me.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

yes.. that doesn't help... looks like a mid-western cell company.  Do 
they build for AT?   Why are they building broadband?


On 12/7/20 3:15 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

May I introduce you to Google?



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*From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" , "Eric 
Muehleisen" 

*Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2020 2:13:38 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize 
Starlink in 35 states


What is Commnet Wireless???

On 12/7/20 3:09 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
 > I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES,
 > whatever they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the
 > incumbents.
 >
 > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners  > wrote:
 >
 >     I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a
 >     bigger $1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states;
 >
 >     On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM      > wrote:
 >
 >         Well, f**k me.
 >
 > 
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/

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[AFMUG] Multiple Federal Funds Overbuilding - WAS Re: SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

So this is good...


CARES funding, RDOF and ARC funding have now all funded multiple million 
dollar broadband networks that cover over each other.


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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Mike Hammett]

May I introduce you to Google? 




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- Original Message -

From: "Matt Hoppes"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" , "Eric Muehleisen" 
 
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:13:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 
35 states 

What is Commnet Wireless??? 

On 12/7/20 3:09 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: 
> I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES, 
> whatever they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the 
> incumbents. 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners  > wrote: 
> 
> I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a 
> bigger $1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states; 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM  > wrote: 
> 
> Well, f**k me. 
> 
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
>  
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

What is Commnet Wireless???

On 12/7/20 3:09 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES, 
whatever they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the 
incumbents.


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners > wrote:


I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a
bigger $1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states;

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM mailto:fiber...@mail.com>> wrote:

Well, f**k me.


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/


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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Eric Muehleisen]

https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction904/reports/winning_bidders
and filter your state

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:05 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Thanks... no way to see it sorted by company though?
>
> On 12/7/20 3:02 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:
> > Who won, but does not say how much support for that area.
> >
> > https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/rdof-phase-i-dec-2020/
> >
> >
> >
> > Tushar
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Matt Hoppes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there a map that shows who won what area?  I see the release
> >> showing who won how much.
> >>
> >>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Matt Hoppes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
>  On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
>  No thanks.
> 
> 
>  bp
>  
> 
> >> On 12/7/2020 11:45 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
> > Well, fuck me.
> >
> >
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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[AFMUG] Capstan Winch

[Matt Hopkins]

I just bought a new winch (
https://www.gmesupply.com/ab-chance-3000-lb-capacity-capstan-hoist) for
tower work but to my surprise it does not have reverse, and it's painfully
slow. Our old My-Te had reverse, (
https://myte.com/winch-hoist-models/product/300AB/?categories=3) I just
thought it was a standard thing. It is really handy for lowering loads and
getting them in just the right position. Our My-Te winch is 15 years old
and has certainly paid for itself but it is due to be replaced. I would
just get another My-Te but I would like a smidge more load capacity. What
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Eric Muehleisen]

I think they are similar to AMG/Nextlink. Gobble up CAF, RDOF, CARES,
whatever they can. Then come in and trash the noise floor for the
incumbents.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:54 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a bigger
> $1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states;
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM  wrote:
>
>> Well, f**k me.
>>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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Re: [AFMUG] OT space x

[Robert Andrews]

Right now all the spaceX running connections are single bounce with not 
a lot of crossfield/downfield capability.  i.e. there needs to be a 
ground station in a decent radius of the CPE.  There are no ground 
stations close enough to the barge when it's on station.


On 12/07/2020 11:36 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
One would think someone would tell spacex that there is this new thing 
called starlink and if they bought one and put on their landing barge 
they might actually get decent video of a landing...





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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

Thanks... no way to see it sorted by company though?

On 12/7/20 3:02 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:

Who won, but does not say how much support for that area.

https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/rdof-phase-i-dec-2020/



Tushar


On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:


Is there a map that shows who won what area?  I see the release 
showing who won how much.


On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:





On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

No thanks.


bp



On 12/7/2020 11:45 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:

Well, fuck me.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/




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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Tushar Patel]

Who won, but does not say how much support for that area.

https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/rdof-phase-i-dec-2020/



Tushar


> On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there a map that shows who won what area?  I see the release showing who 
> won how much. 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Matt Hoppes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> 
>>> 
> On 12/7/2020 11:45 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
 Well, fuck me.
 
 https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
 
 
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Colin Stanners]

Did many WISPs compete for it? I would've thought it'd be fiber providers
but I guess that their pricing for the heavily-rural areas was too high.


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:57 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Is there a map that shows who won what area?  I see the release showing
> who won how much.
>
> > On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> >>
> >> No thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> bp
> >> 
> >>
>  On 12/7/2020 11:45 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
> >>> Well, f**k me.
> >>>
> >>>
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Matt Hoppes]

Is there a map that shows who won what area?  I see the release showing who won 
how much. 

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>> 
>> No thanks.
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>> 
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>>> Well, fuck me.
>>> 
>>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Mike Hammett]

It looks like a WISP in the upper plains. 


https://ltdbroadband.com/coverage 




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Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:53:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 
35 states 



I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a bigger $1.32 
billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states; 


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM < fiber...@mail.com > wrote: 


Well, f**k me. 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
 


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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Colin Stanners]

I'm more interested in who is "LTD Broadband" which was awarded a bigger
$1.32 billion to serve 528,088 locations in 15 states;

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM  wrote:

> Well, f**k me.
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

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

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> No thanks.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 12/7/2020 11:45 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
>> Well, fuck me.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[Bill Prince]

No thanks.


bp


On 12/7/2020 11:45 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:

Well, fuck me.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/




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[AFMUG] SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

[fiberrun]

Well, fuck me.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/


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Re: [AFMUG] OT space x

[Carl Peterson]

I saw the FCC application for them to put some on mobile sea going
platforms for testing.  Assuming for this purpose.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:38 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> TFS.
>
> (Too Far South)
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 12/7/2020 11:36 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> One would think someone would tell spacex that there is this new thing
> called starlink and if they bought one and put on their landing barge they
> might actually get decent video of a landing...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT space x

[Bill Prince]

  
  
TFS.
(Too Far South)


bp

On 12/7/2020 11:36 AM, Chuck McCown via
  AF wrote:


  
  

  One would think someone would tell spacex that there is
this new thing called starlink and if they bought one and
put on their landing barge they might actually get decent
video of a landing...

  
  
  

  


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[AFMUG] OT space x

[Chuck McCown via AF]

One would think someone would tell spacex that there is this new thing called 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

BYU lost its perfect win streak, that is what I am depressed about.  It was a 
righteous game.  Well matched.  Came down the final 3 seconds and 1 yard…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Macenski
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 11:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I wouldn’t think people in Utah would be so depressed that the Bears lost again.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 12:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long time. I know 
in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot of cell towers for 
different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after payday was always light on the 
construction crews/tower climbers. When I asked a foreman where people were, he 
told me Friday was payday. It was mostly the young, single guys, but it was 
pretty much understood that there would be less done early in the week after a 
Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who didn't show up, but he 
told me that we'd be hard pressed to find enough guys if we started firing 
everyone who didn't show up after payday. It would be nice if everyone had a 
great work ethic, but then again, it makes people who do look that much better. 

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to the quality and 
quantity of porn.  Time domain.  Please provide graph…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
usage in my opinion.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Mike Hammett]

Neither my wife nor I follow sports much. 

I had commented early in the game (phone has updates) that we were just barely 
beating the Lions. She said we should be, because she heard the Lions weren't 
very good. We lost. 


I guess we aren't very good either. 




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Midwest Internet Exchange 

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- Original Message -

From: "Chuck Macenski"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 12:21:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question 


Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory... 


On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: 





I wouldn’t think people in Utah would be so depressed that the Bears lost 
again. 


From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Cameron Crum 
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 12:06 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question 


I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long time. I know 
in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot of cell towers for 
different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after payday was always light on the 
construction crews/tower climbers. When I asked a foreman where people were, he 
told me Friday was payday. It was mostly the young, single guys, but it was 
pretty much understood that there would be less done early in the week after a 
Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who didn't show up, but he 
told me that we'd be hard pressed to find enough guys if we started firing 
everyone who didn't show up after payday. It would be nice if everyone had a 
great work ethic, but then again, it makes people who do look that much better. 



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: 




I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to the quality and 
quantity of porn. Time domain. Please provide graph… 



From: AF [mailto: af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question 

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers. Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters. Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers. 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways. 



From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question 


Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans... 

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance... 

WTF... 

I earn my pay every fucking day... 



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > wrote: 



We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time. 



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: 




If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in? 
Like why reward laziness/hangovers. But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate. 
Had 4 like that this morning. One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable. 

Not sure about the rest. Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug usage 
in my opinion. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck Macenski]

Once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I wouldn’t think people in Utah would be so depressed that the Bears lost
> again.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 12:06 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>
>
> I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long time. I
> know in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot of cell towers
> for different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after payday was always light
> on the construction crews/tower climbers. When I asked a foreman where
> people were, he told me Friday was payday. It was mostly the young, single
> guys, but it was pretty much understood that there would be less done early
> in the week after a Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who
> didn't show up, but he told me that we'd be hard pressed to find enough
> guys if we started firing everyone who didn't show up after payday. It
> would be nice if everyone had a great work ethic, but then again, it makes
> people who do look that much better.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to the quality
> and quantity of porn.  Time domain.  Please provide graph…
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>
>
> Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their
> generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes
> from, but it seems to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I
> have student debt and a crummy job and no love life because of the damn
> baby boomers.
>
>
>
> Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as
> telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old
> man, I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school
> uphill both ways.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>
>
> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
>
> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
>
> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
>
> WTF...
>
> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are
> out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be
> able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate.
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery
> last week, so it is understandable.
>
>
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug
> usage in my opinion.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Ken Hohhof]

I wouldn’t think people in Utah would be so depressed that the Bears lost again.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 12:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long time. I know 
in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot of cell towers for 
different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after payday was always light on the 
construction crews/tower climbers. When I asked a foreman where people were, he 
told me Friday was payday. It was mostly the young, single guys, but it was 
pretty much understood that there would be less done early in the week after a 
Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who didn't show up, but he 
told me that we'd be hard pressed to find enough guys if we started firing 
everyone who didn't show up after payday. It would be nice if everyone had a 
great work ethic, but then again, it makes people who do look that much better. 

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to the quality and 
quantity of porn.  Time domain.  Please provide graph…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
usage in my opinion.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Cameron Crum]

I think it has been this way in the manual labor field for a long time. I
know in the 90's/early 2000's when we were building a lot of cell towers
for different companies, the Monday-Tuesday after payday was always light
on the construction crews/tower climbers. When I asked a foreman where
people were, he told me Friday was payday. It was mostly the young, single
guys, but it was pretty much understood that there would be less done early
in the week after a Friday payday. My first thought was to fire anyone who
didn't show up, but he told me that we'd be hard pressed to find enough
guys if we started firing everyone who didn't show up after payday. It
would be nice if everyone had a great work ethic, but then again, it makes
people who do look that much better.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:19 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to the quality
> and quantity of porn.  Time domain.  Please provide graph…
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>
>
> Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their
> generation got screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes
> from, but it seems to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I
> have student debt and a crummy job and no love life because of the damn
> baby boomers.
>
>
>
> Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as
> telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old
> man, I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school
> uphill both ways.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question
>
>
>
> Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
>
> I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
> transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
>
> $35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
>
> WTF...
>
> I earn my pay every fucking day...
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are
> out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be
> able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate.
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery
> last week, so it is understandable.
>
>
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug
> usage in my opinion.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I'm not sure how long it lasts. I know that in the heat of
  summer, a lot would leak out, but I think there was still some
  residual there to provide protection. I know that if I had to open
  something up in the winter (when 95% of our rain happens), I would
  always squirt some in. Newer devices with better weather
  protection have always faired better.


bp

On 12/7/2020 9:28 AM, Colin Stanners
  wrote:


  
  
Bill, without DC4, how long does it take before you see
  effects on devices in the worst areas? How much difference if
  the devices are IP6x rated (e.g. PTP6x0) or not (e.g. Canopy
  SMs)?



Being in those salt-infused zones sounds annoying... but
  then in Manitoba it'll be down to -40 at points this winter,
  and this year due to COVID I can't leave the house to go to
  other indoor locations for fun, so the sun belt recently
  sounds reay nice. sigh.

  
  
  
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:18
  AM Bill Prince  wrote:


  
Being in a coastal zone, we often get salt-infused
  rain/air during storms. Anything metal will be affected.
  DC4 is a good choice, and is practically mandatory on any
  of our installations that are within 2 or 3 miles from the
  shore. There other choices that are a little bit more
  viscous.


bp

On 12/7/2020 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:


  Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but
areas of high salt / humidity may be different, is
Florida one of those?
  
  
  
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at
  8:47 AM Paul McCall 
  wrote:


  

  Haven’t had this subject come
up lately, but I think at one point we used
dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor
ethernet connections.
   
  Seems like we stopped a
looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting
this AM LOL
   
  Do you guys use dielectric on
outdoor ethernet… Occasionally, Always,
  Never ?
   
  If so, what brand do you use?
   
  Thanks!
   
  Paul
   
  Paul McCall, President 
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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Ken Hohhof]

The modular jacks in many NIDs and outdoor smartjack enclosures often have a 
grease but they will tell you it’s a “lubricant” to prevent “fretting 
corrosion” of the gold contacts due to vibration.

 

And OK, it keeps moisture out.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 11:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

 

The grease isn't there to conduct - it's pushed out of the way from the 
contacts - it's there to block the port from other materials getting in.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:17 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I have never understood how you can grease an electrical connection and have it 
conduct.  But it does.  I guess contact pressure at the microscopic level 
extrudes the grease.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com  ] On 
Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

 

Being in a coastal zone, we often get salt-infused rain/air during storms. 
Anything metal will be affected. DC4 is a good choice, and is practically 
mandatory on any of our installations that are within 2 or 3 miles from the 
shore. There other choices that are a little bit more viscous.

 

bp


On 12/7/2020 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:

Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but areas of high salt / humidity may 
be different, is Florida one of those?

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:47 AM Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > wrote:

Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used 
dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.

 

Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting this AM 
LOL

 

Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… Occasionally, Always, Never ?

 

If so, what brand do you use?

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

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658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Colin Stanners]

Bill, without DC4, how long does it take before you see effects on devices
in the worst areas? How much difference if the devices are IP6x rated (e.g.
PTP6x0) or not (e.g. Canopy SMs)?

Being in those salt-infused zones sounds annoying... but then in Manitoba
it'll be down to -40 at points this winter, and this year due to COVID I
can't leave the house to go to other indoor locations for fun, so the sun
belt recently sounds reay nice. sigh.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 10:18 AM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Being in a coastal zone, we often get salt-infused rain/air during storms.
> Anything metal will be affected. DC4 is a good choice, and is practically
> mandatory on any of our installations that are within 2 or 3 miles from the
> shore. There other choices that are a little bit more viscous.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 12/7/2020 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but areas of high salt / humidity
> may be different, is Florida one of those?
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:47 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used
>> dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting
>> this AM LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… *Occasionally, Always,
>> Never* ?
>>
>>
>>
>> If so, what brand do you use?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *Paul McCall, President *
>>
>> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>>
>> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>>
>> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Colin Stanners]

The grease isn't there to conduct - it's pushed out of the way from the
contacts - it's there to block the port from other materials getting in.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:17 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I have never understood how you can grease an electrical connection and
> have it conduct.  But it does.  I guess contact pressure at the microscopic
> level extrudes the grease.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?
>
>
>
> Being in a coastal zone, we often get salt-infused rain/air during storms.
> Anything metal will be affected. DC4 is a good choice, and is practically
> mandatory on any of our installations that are within 2 or 3 miles from the
> shore. There other choices that are a little bit more viscous.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 12/7/2020 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but areas of high salt / humidity
> may be different, is Florida one of those?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:47 AM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used
> dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.
>
>
>
> Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting
> this AM LOL
>
>
>
> Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… *Occasionally, Always,
> Never* ?
>
>
>
> If so, what brand do you use?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *Paul McCall, President *
>
> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>
> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>
> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>
> *772-564-6800*
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I wonder if the lack of love life is directly proportional to the quality and 
quantity of porn.  Time domain.  Please provide graph…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:58 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Guvmn’t money.  Good work if you can get it.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug 
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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I have never understood how you can grease an electrical connection and have it 
conduct.  But it does.  I guess contact pressure at the microscopic level 
extrudes the grease.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

 

Being in a coastal zone, we often get salt-infused rain/air during storms. 
Anything metal will be affected. DC4 is a good choice, and is practically 
mandatory on any of our installations that are within 2 or 3 miles from the 
shore. There other choices that are a little bit more viscous.

 

bp


On 12/7/2020 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:

Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but areas of high salt / humidity may 
be different, is Florida one of those?

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:47 AM Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > wrote:

Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used 
dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.

 

Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting this AM 
LOL

 

Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… Occasionally, Always, Never ?

 

If so, what brand do you use?

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President 

Florida Broadband / PDMNet

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

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[AFMUG] uFiber Loco Availability

[Jason McKemie]

I've had UF-Loco units on order from Baltic for a couple months now and the
date just got pushed back.  Streakwave also appears to be out.  Does anyone
know where I can get a few of these?  The Ubiquiti stock locator came back
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Ken Hohhof]

Millennials seem to believe all their problems are because their generation got 
screwed over by the baby boomers.  Not sure where this comes from, but it seems 
to be accepted fact among Bernie supporters.  Like I have student debt and a 
crummy job and no love life because of the damn baby boomers.

 

Good luck telling them they’re lazy, you’ll get about the same reaction as 
telling someone from the MAGAverse to wear a mask. Or yeah yeah yeah, old man, 
I know, get off your lawn, and you used to walk 5 miles to school uphill both 
ways.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

 

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy? 

I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with transportation...most 
of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...

$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...

WTF...

I earn my pay every fucking day...

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are out 
for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able to 
make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home and 
recuperate.  

Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery last 
week, so it is understandable.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Jaime Solorza]

Is it me or are today's younger workers lazy?
I have a contract with a company that supports ICE with
transportation...most of video pulls I do are for these guys' shenanigans...
$35-45.00 an hour plus insurance...
WTF...
I earn my pay every fucking day...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 9:10 AM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are
> out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be
>> able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>>
>> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
>> home and recuperate.
>>
>> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder
>> surgery last week, so it is understandable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of
>> drug usage in my opinion.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT good eats

[Darren Shea]

I did eat that 1 year frozen piece of cake with my 1st wife – back in 1988. It 
was not the worst piece of cake I ever tasted, but it also wasn’t a fruitcake!

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 8:03 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT good eats

 

I could be mistaken, we’re talking 1972, but I seem to remember my wife 
choosing a “traditional wedding fruitcake” for our wedding reception, and 
ordering one special from a bakery.  I also distinctly remember her saying we 
should freeze a piece and eat it on our first anniversary.

 

Young people, let me clue you in on a secret - those are both pranks that the 
older generation may try to pull on you.  Don’t fall for them.  Especially the 
one year old piece of cake.  Save it and take it out if you wish, but don’t try 
to eat it.

 

Of course, if it’s like Chuck’s fruitcake, you could just leave it out on the 
counter for a year, supposedly they improve with age.  Especially if they’re 
drowned in rum or brandy.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT good eats

 

Around here, you can use it in place of bricks for home construction.

 

bp


On 12/5/2020 3:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Fruitcake is an actual thing? 

 

 

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:31 PM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

Ah ...no

 

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 4:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Orgasmically good fruitcake from Costco.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Being in a coastal zone, we often get salt-infused rain/air
  during storms. Anything metal will be affected. DC4 is a good
  choice, and is practically mandatory on any of our installations
  that are within 2 or 3 miles from the shore. There other choices
  that are a little bit more viscous.


bp

On 12/7/2020 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners
  wrote:


  
  Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but areas
of high salt / humidity may be different, is Florida one of
those?
  
  
  
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:47 AM
  Paul McCall  wrote:


  

  Haven’t had this subject come up
lately, but I think at one point we used dielectric
grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.
   
  Seems like we stopped a looong time
ago I found out in our tech meeting this AM LOL
   
  Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor
ethernet… Occasionally, Always, Never ?
   
  If so, what brand do you use?
   
  Thanks!
   
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  Vero Beach, FL 32962
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Re: [AFMUG] OT HR question

[Lewis Bergman]

We don't allow people to come in when they want. If they are sick they are
out for the whole day. We feel it protects the workers that show up on time.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be
> able to make it by noon, do you let them come in?
>
> Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay
> home and recuperate.
>
> Had 4 like that this morning.  One is recovering from gall bladder surgery
> last week, so it is understandable.
>
>
>
> Not sure about the rest.  Monday absenteeism after a payday smacks of drug
> usage in my opinion.
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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Colin Stanners]

Never, haven't seen a reason to do so - but areas of high salt / humidity
may be different, is Florida one of those?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:47 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used
> dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.
>
>
>
> Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting
> this AM LOL
>
>
>
> Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… *Occasionally, Always,
> Never* ?
>
>
>
> If so, what brand do you use?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *Paul McCall, President *
>
> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>
> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>
> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>
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[AFMUG] OT HR question

[Chuck McCown via AF]

If you have guys call in not feeling well, but they think they might be able
to make it by noon, do you let them come in?

Like why reward laziness/hangovers.  But if they are really sick, stay home
and recuperate.  

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last week, so it is understandable.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Paul McCall]

Thanks.  That is what I think we used to use, darn it.



From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 9:57 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

Dow Corning DC4 on all outdoor connections at towers.  Typically not at 
customer installs.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used 
dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.

Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting this AM 
LOL

Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… Occasionally, Always, Never ?

If so, what brand do you use?

Thanks!

Paul

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Matt Hoppes]

Always on towers. 

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dow Corning DC4 on all outdoor connections at towers.  Typically not at 
> customer installs.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:47 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?
>  
> Haven’t had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used 
> dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.
>  
> Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting this 
> AM LOL
>  
> Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet… Occasionally, Always, Never ?
>  
> If so, what brand do you use?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Paul
>  
> Paul McCall, President
> Florida Broadband / PDMNet
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800
>  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Chuck, Found your new car

[Cameron Crum]

How are you going to get your camping gear and five days worth of food and
other supplies there? If you strap it to the roof you lose your solar. I'm
betting that efficiency is weight related. Two people and the proper gear
for 5 days of camping probably makes that thing as practical as doing it on
a bicycle.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 6:09 PM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> You would need powerful lights in your garage…..
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:02 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Chuck, Found your new car
>
>
>
> What if you park it in a garage?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:07 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Chuck, Found your new car
>
>
>
> It kind of looks like a kidney bean on wheels.
>
> But I was thinking. What if you went on a camping trip for 5 days? If it
> was parked for 5 days, it would theoretically add 200 miles of range for
> your trip home.
>
> Still. Having to ride around in a kidney bean is trey weird.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 12/5/2020 8:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> These guys have 3X the efficiency of my leaf, so that is good.  Even if
> you could get 100 square feet of panel on a car, that is 1000 watts if
> oriented perfectly.  So a bit more than 1 HP for actually driving on it.
> They say they have a 100 kWh battery.  OK 100 hours of sunlight to charge.
> But they probably only have half that much charging capacity.  But still,
> if you have sunny climate, very short commute and you don’t mind riding in
> a bathtub it would be fun to have.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:06 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Chuck, Found your new car
>
>
>
> Aptera has been in startup mode for something like a decade. A lot of hat,
> and not much in the way of cattle.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 12/5/2020 7:22 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34875659/aptera-ev-solar-no-charging-revealed/
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Ken Hohhof]

Dow Corning DC4 on all outdoor connections at towers.  Typically not at
customer installs.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

 

Haven't had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used
dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.

 

Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting this
AM LOL

 

Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet. Occasionally, Always, Never
?

 

If so, what brand do you use?

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President 

Florida Broadband / PDMNet

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

 

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[AFMUG] Di-Electric Grease on Cat5/6 connections... Yes/no?

[Paul McCall]

Haven't had this subject come up lately, but I think at one point we used 
dielectric grease (spray I think) on outdoor ethernet connections.

Seems like we stopped a looong time ago I found out in our tech meeting this AM 
LOL

Do you guys use dielectric on outdoor ethernet... Occasionally, Always, Never ?

If so, what brand do you use?

Thanks!

Paul

Paul McCall, President
Florida Broadband / PDMNet
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800

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[Timothy Steele]

anyone interested in a service

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Tries to correct the issues overnight by moving channels around and or
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look at tickets coming in overnight, comment on them internally on your CRM
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