Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
He used the following on everything:
   
* Colocation
* IP Transit

* Layer 2 Transport


From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2022 9:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Just checked our Cogent quote.  They did refer to our connection as a DIA.  
They did not use the “IP Transit” terminology on the paperwork as far I can 
tell.  Will check our HE quote.  


From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 4:03 PM
To: TJ Trout 
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff.  I have been calling IP 
Transit DIA forever.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and 
include the local transport loop

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Make that Cogent, not HE.  

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM
  To: TJ Trout 
  Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  So what do you call a port in a carriers cage?  HE sells us 10G delivered to 
a port in their cage in a data center.  I understand paying for the cross 
connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts.  So 
what is that service I am paying for called?  There is no local loop involved.  
Is that transit?

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM
  To: Chuck McCown 
  Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) 
  Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
  Transport= Layer2 between sites

  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 
I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port 
in a data center
Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the 
data center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call 
that element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the 
words...

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a 
local loop which is most of the expense. 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had 
sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 




On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they 
just call them EPLs lol 

  Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

  Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
  DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
  10g waves $1200-$3000


  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
    Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that 
going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 
10g aggregation po

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Just checked our Cogent quote.  They did refer to our connection as a DIA.  
They did not use the “IP Transit” terminology on the paperwork as far I can 
tell.  Will check our HE quote.  


From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 4:03 PM
To: TJ Trout 
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff.  I have been calling IP 
Transit DIA forever.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and 
include the local transport loop

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Make that Cogent, not HE.  

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM
  To: TJ Trout 
  Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  So what do you call a port in a carriers cage?  HE sells us 10G delivered to 
a port in their cage in a data center.  I understand paying for the cross 
connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts.  So 
what is that service I am paying for called?  There is no local loop involved.  
Is that transit?

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM
  To: Chuck McCown 
  Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) 
  Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
  Transport= Layer2 between sites

  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 
I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port 
in a data center
Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the 
data center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call 
that element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the 
words...

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a 
local loop which is most of the expense. 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had 
sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 




On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they 
just call them EPLs lol 

  Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

  Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
  DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
  10g waves $1200-$3000


  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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Midwest Internet Exchange

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From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
    Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that 
going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 
10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you 
can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in 
all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

Thank y

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff.  I have been calling IP 
Transit DIA forever.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and 
include the local transport loop

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Make that Cogent, not HE.  

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM
  To: TJ Trout 
  Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  So what do you call a port in a carriers cage?  HE sells us 10G delivered to 
a port in their cage in a data center.  I understand paying for the cross 
connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts.  So 
what is that service I am paying for called?  There is no local loop involved.  
Is that transit?

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM
  To: Chuck McCown 
  Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) 
  Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
  Transport= Layer2 between sites

  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 
I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port 
in a data center
Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the 
data center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call 
that element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the 
words...

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a 
local loop which is most of the expense. 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had 
sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 




On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they 
just call them EPLs lol 

  Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

  Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
  DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
  10g waves $1200-$3000


  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

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From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
    Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that 
going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 
10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you 
can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in 
all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

Thank you,

TJ Trout
Volt Broadband
AS62809





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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. 




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- Original Message -

From: "TJ Trout"  
To: "Chuck McCown"  
Cc: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:21:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 


DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) 
Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC 
Transport= Layer2 between sites 


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote: 






I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... 
I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in 
a data center 
Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data 
center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that 
element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... 




From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local 
loop which is most of the expense. 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 
2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 





On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: 






Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 
all in. 




From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 
10g waves $1200-$3000 



On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Hey guys, 
We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy ! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) 

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast 

DIA 
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month 

Thank you, 

TJ Trout 
Volt Broadband 
AS62809 




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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I've got a 10G wave to a rural location that's sub $900. ;-) 




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- Original Message -

From: "TJ Trout"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:05:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local 
loop which is most of the expense. 


HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 
2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 






On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: 






Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 
all in. 




From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 
10g waves $1200-$3000 



On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. 




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Midwest Internet Exchange 

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From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Hey guys, 
We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy ! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) 

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast 

DIA 
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month 

Thank you, 

TJ Trout 
Volt Broadband 
AS62809 




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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread dmmoffett
Lumen likes the term “HSIP” lately.  “High Speed IP”

They’ve used that term both when we had a loop and when we were meeting them in 
a datacenter.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 4:14 PM
To: TJ Trout ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 

I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in 
a data center

Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the data 
center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call that 
element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the words...

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Cc: Chuck McCown 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local 
loop which is most of the expense. 

 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 
2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 

 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So $2500 
all in.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 

DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500

10g waves $1200-$3000

 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.



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From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Hey guys,

 

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

 

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

 

DIA

att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

 

Thank you,

 

TJ Trout

Volt Broadband

AS62809

 

 

 

 


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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower
and include the local transport loop

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Make that Cogent, not HE.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM
> *To:* TJ Trout
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
> promo
>
> So what do you call a port in a carriers cage?  HE sells us 10G delivered
> to a port in their cage in a data center.  I understand paying for the
> cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection
> starts.  So what is that service I am paying for called?  There is no local
> loop involved.  Is that transit?
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM
> *To:* Chuck McCown
> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
> promo
>
> DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop)
> Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
> Transport= Layer2 between sites
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ...
>> I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a
>> port in a data center
>> Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the
>> data center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I
>> call that element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all
>> the words...
>>
>> *From:* TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
>> promo
>>
>> DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include
>> a local loop which is most of the expense.
>>
>> HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be
>> had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So
>>> $2500 all in.
>>>
>>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
>>> promo
>>>
>>> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they
>>> just call them EPLs lol
>>>
>>> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using
>>> DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to
>>> the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are
>>> native dwdm all the way to your equipment.
>>>
>>> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on
>>> the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day.
>>> DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
>>> 10g waves $1200-$3000
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
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>>>>
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>>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
>>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Make that Cogent, not HE.  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM
To: TJ Trout 
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

So what do you call a port in a carriers cage?  HE sells us 10G delivered to a 
port in their cage in a data center.  I understand paying for the cross connect 
to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts.  So what is 
that service I am paying for called?  There is no local loop involved.  Is that 
transit?

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) 
Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
Transport= Layer2 between sites

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 
  I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port 
in a data center
  Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the data 
center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call that 
element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the words...

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a 
local loop which is most of the expense. 

  HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had 
sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 




  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they 
just call them EPLs lol 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
10g waves $1200-$3000


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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  Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


  Hey guys,

  We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that 
going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

  Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

  MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

  DIA
  att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

  Thank you,

  TJ Trout
  Volt Broadband
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
So what do you call a port in a carriers cage?  HE sells us 10G delivered to a 
port in their cage in a data center.  I understand paying for the cross connect 
to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts.  So what is 
that service I am paying for called?  There is no local loop involved.  Is that 
transit?

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) 
Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
Transport= Layer2 between sites

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 
  I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port 
in a data center
  Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the data 
center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call that 
element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the words...

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a 
local loop which is most of the expense. 

  HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had 
sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 




  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they 
just call them EPLs lol 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
10g waves $1200-$3000


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


  Hey guys,

  We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that 
going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

  Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

  MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

  DIA
  att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

  Thank you,

  TJ Trout
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop)
Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC
Transport= Layer2 between sites

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ...
> I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a
> port in a data center
> Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the
> data center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I
> call that element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all
> the words...
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
> promo
>
> DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a
> local loop which is most of the expense.
>
> HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be
> had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So
>> $2500 all in.
>>
>> *From:* TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
>> promo
>>
>> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they
>> just call them EPLs lol
>>
>> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM
>> channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the
>> waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are
>> native dwdm all the way to your equipment.
>>
>> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the
>> region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day.
>> DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
>> 10g waves $1200-$3000
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
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>>> --
>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" 
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that
>>> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but
>>> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if
>>> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*!
>>>
>>> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)
>>>
>>> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g
>>> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you
>>> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso
>>> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast
>>>
>>> DIA
>>> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> TJ Trout
>>> Volt Broadband
>>> AS62809
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
Ha,  won’t be long before those guys are lower than the cost of the xconnect in 
the bigger datacenters.   Its just a pitty they don’t go  that low on 
aggregated commits (cogent comes close but HE hates burstable ports).  

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 2:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local 
loop which is most of the expense. 

 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 
2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 

 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So $2500 
all in.  

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

 

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 

DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500

10g waves $1200-$3000

 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.



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To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Hey guys,

 

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

 

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

 

DIA

att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

 

Thank you,

 

TJ Trout

Volt Broadband

AS62809

 

 

 

 


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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I prefer the term backbone...  Or uplink bw service or ... 
I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in 
a data center
Dedicated Internet Access, right?  I wouldn’t call my connection to the data 
center a local loop.  It is dark fiber running about 60 miles.  So I call that 
element of the cost my “transit”.  Maybe someday I will learn all the words...

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local 
loop which is most of the expense. 

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 
2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. 




On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

  Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

  Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
  DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
  10g waves $1200-$3000


  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going 
is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

Thank you,

TJ Trout
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a
local loop which is most of the expense.

HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had
sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location.



On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So
> $2500 all in.
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
> promo
>
> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they
> just call them EPLs lol
>
> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM
> channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the
> waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are
> native dwdm all the way to your equipment.
>
> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the
> region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day.
> DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
> 10g waves $1200-$3000
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that
>> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but
>> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if
>> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*!
>>
>> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)
>>
>> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g
>> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you
>> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso
>> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast
>>
>> DIA
>> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> TJ Trout
>> Volt Broadband
>> AS62809
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Well I'll be dipped in shit... AT *DOES* do waves. 


https://www.business.att.com/products/dedicated-ethernet.html 


Kinda dances around it, mentioning DWDM for one flavor, but the hard 1G, 10G, 
100G really makes it kinda click. 




https://solutionprovidercentral.com/att-dedicated-ethernet/ 


Then ACC just says, yup, this is DWDM. 




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- Original Message -

From: "TJ Trout"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:44:14 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 


Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 


Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 
10g waves $1200-$3000 




On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Hey guys, 

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy ! 


Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) 


MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast 


DIA 
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month 


Thank you, 


TJ Trout 
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Cogent and HE both quoted $600.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

I wish I could get that deal!

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So 
$2500 all in.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

  Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

  Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

  Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
  DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
  10g waves $1200-$3000


  On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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Intelligent Computing Solutions

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From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going 
is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Jason McKemie
I wish I could get that deal!

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So
> $2500 all in.
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc
> promo
>
> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they
> just call them EPLs lol
>
> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM
> channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the
> waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are
> native dwdm all the way to your equipment.
>
> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the
> region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day.
> DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
> 10g waves $1200-$3000
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
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>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
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>> --
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>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that
>> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but
>> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if
>> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*!
>>
>> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)
>>
>> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g
>> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you
>> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso
>> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast
>>
>> DIA
>> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> TJ Trout
>> Volt Broadband
>> AS62809
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think.  Transport was $1900 I think.  So $2500 
all in.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just 
call them EPLs lol 

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM 
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves 
(they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all 
the way to your equipment. 

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the 
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. 
DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
10g waves $1200-$3000


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.




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  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
  Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo


  Hey guys,

  We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going 
is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but 
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if 
anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

  Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

  MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

  DIA
  att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

  Thank you,

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  Volt Broadband
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they
just call them EPLs lol

Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM
channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the
waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are
native dwdm all the way to your equipment.

Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the
region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day.
DIA  $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500
10g waves $1200-$3000


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves.
>
>
>
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>
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> *From: *"TJ Trout" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
>
> Hey guys,
>
> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that
> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but
> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if
> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*!
>
> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)
>
> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g
> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you
> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso
> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast
>
> DIA
> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month
>
> Thank you,
>
> TJ Trout
> Volt Broadband
> AS62809
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
What kind of pricing are we talking about here?

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy! 

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Bill Prince

Is that the same as colors we talk about out here?


bp


On 7/8/2022 7:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

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*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
*Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that 
going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network 
but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me 
know if anything is of interest to you when you are /ready to buy/!


Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 
10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool 
thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or 
any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast


DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

Thank you,

TJ Trout
Volt Broadband
AS62809





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Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "TJ Trout"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo 



Hey guys, 

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is 
having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I 
have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of 
interest to you when you are ready to buy ! 


Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) 


MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g 
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can 
order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 
50 states! similar deal available with Comcast 


DIA 
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month 


Thank you, 


TJ Trout 
Volt Broadband 
AS62809 








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[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

2022-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
Hey guys,

We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going
is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but
occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if
anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*!

Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at)

MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g
aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you
can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso
in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast

DIA
att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month

Thank you,

TJ Trout
Volt Broadband
AS62809
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