Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
He used the following on everything: * Colocation * IP Transit * Layer 2 Transport From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2022 9:31 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Just checked our Cogent quote. They did refer to our connection as a DIA. They did not use the “IP Transit” terminology on the paperwork as far I can tell. Will check our HE quote. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 4:03 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff. I have been calling IP Transit DIA forever. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and include the local transport loop On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown wrote: Make that Cogent, not HE. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local loop involved. Is that transit? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation po
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Just checked our Cogent quote. They did refer to our connection as a DIA. They did not use the “IP Transit” terminology on the paperwork as far I can tell. Will check our HE quote. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 4:03 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff. I have been calling IP Transit DIA forever. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and include the local transport loop On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown wrote: Make that Cogent, not HE. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local loop involved. Is that transit? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank y
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff. I have been calling IP Transit DIA forever. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and include the local transport loop On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown wrote: Make that Cogent, not HE. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local loop involved. Is that transit? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- --
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Agreed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "Chuck McCown" Cc: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy ! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
I've got a 10G wave to a rural location that's sub $900. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy ! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Lumen likes the term “HSIP” lately. “High Speed IP” They’ve used that term both when we had a loop and when we were meeting them in a datacenter. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 4:14 PM To: TJ Trout ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and include the local transport loop On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Make that Cogent, not HE. > > *From:* Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM > *To:* TJ Trout > *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered > to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the > cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection > starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local > loop involved. Is that transit? > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) > Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC > Transport= Layer2 between sites > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... >> I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a >> port in a data center >> Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the >> data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I >> call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all >> the words... >> >> *From:* TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc >> promo >> >> DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include >> a local loop which is most of the expense. >> >> HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be >> had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF >> wrote: >> >>> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So >>> $2500 all in. >>> >>> *From:* TJ Trout >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc >>> promo >>> >>> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they >>> just call them EPLs lol >>> >>> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using >>> DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to >>> the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are >>> native dwdm all the way to your equipment. >>> >>> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on >>> the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. >>> DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 >>> 10g waves $1200-$3000 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> -- >>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" >>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo >>>> >>>
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Make that Cogent, not HE. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local loop involved. Is that transit? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local loop involved. Is that transit? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:21 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... > I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a > port in a data center > Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the > data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I > call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all > the words... > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a > local loop which is most of the expense. > > HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be > had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So >> $2500 all in. >> >> *From:* TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc >> promo >> >> Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they >> just call them EPLs lol >> >> Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM >> channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the >> waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are >> native dwdm all the way to your equipment. >> >> Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the >> region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. >> DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 >> 10g waves $1200-$3000 >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"TJ Trout" >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM >>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that >>> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but >>> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if >>> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! >>> >>> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) >>> >>> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g >>> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you >>> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso >>> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast >>> >>> DIA >>> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> TJ Trout >>> Volt Broadband >>> AS62809 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Ha, won’t be long before those guys are lower than the cost of the xconnect in the bigger datacenters. Its just a pitty they don’t go that low on aggregated commits (cogent comes close but HE hates burstable ports). From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 2:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So I call that element of the cost my “transit”. Maybe someday I will learn all the words... From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So > $2500 all in. > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they > just call them EPLs lol > > Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM > channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the > waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are > native dwdm all the way to your equipment. > > Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the > region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. > DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 > 10g waves $1200-$3000 > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"TJ Trout" >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo >> >> Hey guys, >> >> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that >> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but >> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if >> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! >> >> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) >> >> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g >> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you >> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso >> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast >> >> DIA >> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month >> >> Thank you, >> >> TJ Trout >> Volt Broadband >> AS62809 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Well I'll be dipped in shit... AT *DOES* do waves. https://www.business.att.com/products/dedicated-ethernet.html Kinda dances around it, mentioning DWDM for one flavor, but the hard 1G, 10G, 100G really makes it kinda click. https://solutionprovidercentral.com/att-dedicated-ethernet/ Then ACC just says, yup, this is DWDM. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:44:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" < t...@voltbb.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy ! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Cogent and HE both quoted $600. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo I wish I could get that deal! On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
I wish I could get that deal! On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So > $2500 all in. > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc > promo > > Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they > just call them EPLs lol > > Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM > channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the > waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are > native dwdm all the way to your equipment. > > Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the > region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. > DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 > 10g waves $1200-$3000 > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"TJ Trout" >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo >> >> Hey guys, >> >> We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that >> going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but >> occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if >> anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! >> >> Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) >> >> MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g >> aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you >> can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso >> in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast >> >> DIA >> att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month >> >> Thank you, >> >> TJ Trout >> Volt Broadband >> AS62809 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien waves which are native dwdm all the way to your equipment. Chuck; nothing market shattering, it's a ICB fish market depending on the region, the end points, sales quotas and the angle of the sun that day. DIA $1000-1700/1g, 3000-5000/10g, in a DC 10G ~$2000-2500 10g waves $1200-$3000 On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:24 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"TJ Trout" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo > > Hey guys, > > We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that > going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but > occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if > anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! > > Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) > > MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g > aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you > can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso > in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast > > DIA > att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month > > Thank you, > > TJ Trout > Volt Broadband > AS62809 > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
What kind of pricing are we talking about here? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Is that the same as colors we talk about out here? bp On 7/8/2022 7:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"TJ Trout" *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are /ready to buy/! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are ready to buy ! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo
Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! Att 10/100g waves are pretty competitive (or competitive for at) MPLS (ASE) competitive in contrast to retail and you get a free 1 or 10g aggregation port at your noc/colo (40% commit required), cool thing is you can order remote connections back to this port on att or any major lec/mso in all 50 states! similar deal available with Comcast DIA att/comcast slight discount & usually a free month Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband AS62809 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com