Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
*nods* I am a Mel Brooks fan. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:11:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Well, there are movies that satisfy those criteria but are also classics, like 
anything by Mel Brooks or Harold Ramis. 

I was reminded of Space Balls today by an article about 10 gigabit Internet 
that referenced Ludicrous Speed. They’ve Gone To Plaid! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0 





From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:44 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 


 sophomoric, moronic, and extremely poor, gross taste  Those are usually the 
movies I prefer. That and stuff with boobs or things that blow up. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:41:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 



Yea, it was sophomoric, moronic, and extremely poor, gross taste. I watched it 
out of pure patriotism. J 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:13 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 

Neither actor interest me. Actually none of the movie fare piques my interest 
all. We always go to movies on Christmas Day. 
Oh well. Enjoy the movie 
Jaime Solorza 

On Dec 25, 2014 9:03 PM, Rory Conaway via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


We are watching it now. 

Rory 



From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:38 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




The Interview. 

Exactly what you would expect from Rogan and Franco. 

Pineapple Express in North Korea. 



Instead of video killed the radio star I think it now is - streaming has killed 
the distribution company. 



Odd that my wife bought me a book for Christmas. Half way through it I watched 
the move on YouTube. 

The book is “Escape from Camp 14”. Biography of a kid that was born in a North 
Korean prison camp. He grew up and escaped. So far he is the only one they know 
about. 



I have read Victor Frankl, Anne Frank and others. 

Have seen “Night and Fog” multiple times. 



North Korea is worse in some ways. 



[AFMUG] Ghana

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af

How did you get involved in this?

--
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com



Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-26 Thread Dennis Burgess via Af
Same here, hate to say it, this is the way movies should go, I understand 
paying a premium to movie theaters, but a bet as time goes on we will see that 
more and more, direct to streaming.  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270 – 
www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

Watched it off Google Play.  10/10 did lol

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 

too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo

 

- Original Message - 

From: Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a 
price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies.

 

I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why.  
They just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking.  They 
probably need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since they 
don’t produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at $10.

 

 

From: Mark Radabaugh via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present.

The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC?   $100, $100, 
$100, $50, $100.

When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling 
and investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and 
ensures they stay relevant.

The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - 
Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries.

The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a 
number of political battles.

Mark


On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

Wonder what the play is there.  How long will gas prices stay 
this low?  And how low will they go?  Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for 
now.  Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts.

Someone will blink.  I'm betting that gas will turn around in 
3-6 months.




--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
 

On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Yep:


http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html

 

From: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com  

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown 
here...

 

I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures?

 

From: Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown 
here...

 

Get a few 55 gallon drums.  That's what we did around 
2006.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af 
af@afmug.com wrote:

I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas 
did not  have a shelf life.

 

From: Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM

To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown 
here...

 

Gas at 1.87 a gallon today

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af 
af@afmug.com wrote:

As long 

Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
I set up an arrangement with our local PC shop (also happens to be our
partner retail store) where our customers could get a PC checkup for free,
the trade off is they get foot traffic in the store. we pawn everything off
on them when things are going as they should. they charge a varying amount
to set things up for the customers, but it gets them off our backs.

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Ask Siri to explain it to you.

  *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:18 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

  Okay, then it doesn't make it intuitive to do attachments.  ;-)



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:38:22 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

 Attached and sent from my iPhone ;-)

 Merry Christmas

 -sean

 On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  For sure on Android. I never assume iOS can do anything you'd ever want
 to do, so I haven't tried. It can't even do e-mail attachments.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:27:11 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

  Can you go to the manufacturer download site, save the file to the
 phone, then go to the firmware update page in the router GUI, and browse to
 the file you saved earlier, just like on a PC?

  *From:* Josh Luthman via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

  Phone can just use the web interface like a PC would.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

   My current problem is I scanned my network and found about 45
 customers with UPnP open to the Internet, I think they are mostly DLinks
 with some older Linksys thrown in.  I sent a little note to each of them
 recommending they update the firmware and/or disable UPnP, then run the
 Rapid7 “Scan My Router Now” test.  There is even a DLink video telling you
 how to update your firmware:
 How to upgrade the firmware on your router
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHnacMKb2ro

 I would venture a guess 99% of customers have never updated their router
 firmware.  This is something IMHO they need to know how to do or pay
 someone to do, like changing the oil in your car.  I think the only way
 Windows Update ever gets run is because the computer came with it
 configured for automatic updates.

 What’s scary is the trend toward people having only phones, tablets,
 game consoles, TVs, Rokus, etc. on their WiFi, no actual computers and
 certainly nothing with an Ethernet cable.  How do you update the firmware
 on your router from a phone, if they want you to download the firmware to
 your computer and then upload it to the router?  At least Netgear gives you
 buttons when you log into the router GUI to check for new firmware and to
 do the upgrade, without having to first store it on your computer.

 And as dependent as these remote support companies are on remote control
 software like Teamviewer and GoToSupport, how do they handle the customer
 with no computers?  Do they remote into a phone or tablet?  Even if that is
 possible, it’s got to be really clumsy to reprogram someone’s WiFi using a
 remote session to a WiFi device.


  *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:15 PM
  *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support


 thats why i love reverse DHCP based on MAC.  Tell us you have a new
 router, check the bridge table on the SM and update the mac.
 Additionally, a lot of people NAT the sms.  Early days we had trouble with
 that and i've just never liked it...


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Philip Rankin via Af
 *To:* af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:50 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support

 The first thing the manufacturer does is tell the customer to hard reset
 their router.  If you use pppoe like we do, then someone has to re-setup
 the pppoe information.  You are FAR better off to simply handle your
 customer computer problems yourself and charge a lot for the 

Re: [AFMUG] West Africa Ebola response mission

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
I happen to be an inactive EMT - I

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   OK for the knowledge and being able to help.
 I have been able to help multiple people multiple times.

 Just not OK as a job... for me.  Not OK as a steady diet.
 Glad others are OK with it but it was very depressing for me.
 It hit me very early on that every time I was actually doing my job, it
 was because something bad has happened.

  *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:43 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] West Africa Ebola response mission

 I went through the Army Combat Lifesaver course in a former life, then
 went through some impromptu combat medical training with 3rd BN 75th Ranger
 Regiment for a few weeks during deployment - nothing official, but
 incredibly valuable. I still keep a red medical bag in my jeep just for
 emergencies.

 I've always wanted to go through official EMT training, just don't want
 the response burden that goes along with it. I enjoy being able to help in
 an emergency under good samaritan laws.

 On December 25, 2014 6:29:23 PM AKST, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  I was an EMT in a former life.  Hated it.  Not my cup of postum.

  *From:* Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 4:33 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] West Africa Ebola response mission


 Hello guys,

 Merry Christmas!  I'm currently in Accra, Ghana working on getting a new
 visa for Sierra Leone. For the first quarter of this year I'm contracting
 with an international NGO which is providing WAN connectivity to other
 agencies responding to the Ebola crisis.

 We are using a mixture of satellite based and terrestrial PTP/PtMP
 technologies to accomplish the last mile access.

 Over the next few weeks you may see me posting photos from Freetown,
 Sierra Leone to the afmug list. If it becomes excessive please let me know.
 Communicating with you guys back in the US is a big stress relief for me.

 If anyone wants my direct contact info, please email and I will send back
 my iridium number and local SIM cards' numbers.

 REQUEST: If anyone knows a fearless EMT/Paramedic who wants to accompany
 a tower climbing team for multi month periods of time, in exchange for good
 financial compensation, please get in touch. No Ebola treatment unit entry
 required. To date, zero aid agency workers who do not have direct personal
 contact with Ebola patients have contracted the disease. Adventure and
 relatively low risk.


 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

2014-12-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af

Mike,

Can you ditch the hot linked images in your signature?The warning 
messages from the email client get to be a bit old.


Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter don't really need to know every 
time someone looks at one of your messages.


Mark


On 12/26/14 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
The NY Times piece I think hits the nail on the head...  it's people 
clicking on things without reading what they're doing, then blaming 
somebody else for their actions.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL


*From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 5:19:28 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/14/linkedin-faces-lawsuit-for-emailing-user-contacts-without-permission/


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/users-sue-linkedin-over-harvesting-of-e-mail-addresses/?_r=0



On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Agreed. It only messages or invites people that you authorize it
to. Anyone that told you different is a liar.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL


*From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:47:19 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

It only does that if you (at least in Apple IOS) if you tell it to.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I refuse to use LinkedIn since the news that it randomly
steals your entire iOS / Android contact list and auto spams
everyone. Such BS.

On Dec 25, 2014 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people...







--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex

m...@amplex.net  419.837.5015 x 1021



Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I usually set each sender that not a SPAMmer on a safe list that just displays 
them. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 9:29:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin 


They're hosted on my server, not the various services. I'll look into a way to 
embed them in the e-mail. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 9:27:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin 


Mike, 

Can you ditch the hot linked images in your signature? The warning messages 
from the email client get to be a bit old. 

Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter don't really need to know every time 
someone looks at one of your messages. 

Mark 


On 12/26/14 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: 



The NY Times piece I think hits the nail on the head... it's people clicking on 
things without reading what they're doing, then blaming somebody else for their 
actions. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 5:19:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin 


http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/14/linkedin-faces-lawsuit-for-emailing-user-contacts-without-permission/
 


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/users-sue-linkedin-over-harvesting-of-e-mail-addresses/?_r=0
 





On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


Agreed. It only messages or invites people that you authorize it to. Anyone 
that told you different is a liar. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:47:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin 


It only does that if you (at least in Apple IOS) if you tell it to. 

Jeff Broadwick 
ConVergence Technologies , Inc. 
312-205-2519 Office 
574-220-7826 Cell 
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 

On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


blockquote


I refuse to use LinkedIn since the news that it randomly steals your entire iOS 
/ Android contact list and auto spams everyone. Such BS. 
On Dec 25, 2014 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote




I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people... 


/blockquote


/blockquote



/blockquote


-- 
Mark Radabaugh 
Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 



Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
I get a kick out of it when my mom endorses me

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Mike,

 Can you ditch the hot linked images in your signature?The warning
 messages from the email client get to be a bit old.

 Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter don't really need to know every
 time someone looks at one of your messages.

 Mark



 On 12/26/14 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

 The NY Times piece I think hits the nail on the head...  it's people
 clicking on things without reading what they're doing, then blaming
 somebody else for their actions.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

  --
 *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 5:19:28 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin


 http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/14/linkedin-faces-lawsuit-for-emailing-user-contacts-without-permission/



 http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/users-sue-linkedin-over-harvesting-of-e-mail-addresses/?_r=0



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Agreed. It only messages or invites people that you authorize it to.
 Anyone that told you different is a liar.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

  --
 *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:47:19 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin

  It only does that if you (at least in Apple IOS) if you tell it to.

 Jeff Broadwick
 ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
 312-205-2519 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
 jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   I refuse to use LinkedIn since the news that it randomly steals your
 entire iOS / Android contact list and auto spams everyone. Such BS.
  On Dec 25, 2014 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people...






 --
 Mark Radabaugh
 Amplex
 m...@amplex.net  419.837.5015 x 1021




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


[AFMUG] WAV, Inc. Now Carrying Shireen Cables Accessories

2014-12-26 Thread Super WISP via Af
Wanted to let everyone know that WAV, Inc. will now be officially carrying the 
Shireen line of cables (DC-1021 and DC-1042) and accessories.  We placed our 
first stocking order today, and with some more feedback offline, would like to 
know how many boxes per month you would be ordering.


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Strategic Account Manager East Coast

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af

That was extremely difficult for me to read...

--
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On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:


*DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies*

/The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following 
statement on November 23:/


We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to 
be entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up 
by the US and it followers.


This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by 
confrontation and hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from 
committing another anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice 
after judging the gravity of the situation with reason.


This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home 
and abroad and various righteous and upright countries made every 
possible effort to put the situation under control while voicing 
opposition to the US-orchestrated human rights racket against the DPRK.


We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it.

However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated 
such reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human 
rights at the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view 
and principle, instead of thinking twice.


The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member 
states blindly following and obeying it voted for it.


This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, 
politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and 
cover truth with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive 
the world people.


What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into 
great fury and their determination to make retaliation against this is 
running high.


The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment 
for daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to 
bring down the socialist system, the cradle of our people.


The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable 
resolution on human rights against the DPRK and, not content with 
this, continue behaving impudently as if they had put it in an awkward 
position. The NDC of the DPRK solemnly declares the following 
principled stand in this regard:


*Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the 
resolution on human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by 
abusing UN.*


We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led 
undesirable hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital 
rights.


The same is the case with the present resolution.

This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the 
basis of misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled 
the country after committing unpardonable crimes before our country 
and its people and abandoning their native places and parents and 
wives and children.


It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as 
it was railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, 
allurement and bribery by hostile forces including the US, without 
expression of the free will of UN member states that sympathize with 
justice and value conscience.


Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of 
the US which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in 
violation of the UN Charter which considers respect for the 
sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in their internal 
affairs as a basic principle.


This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human 
dignity like a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission.


But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence 
and demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance.


The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have 
mercilessly trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and 
develop and took countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the 
world for centuries. And such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of 
south Korea kowtowing to them joined them in sponsoring the above-said 
resolution reminiscent of a thief crying Stop the thief! This 
cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in history.


Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal 
apology by bending its knees before us for its crimes.


This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the 
EU as well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go 
scot-free.


This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the 
UN to make haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under 
control, though belatedly.


The UN needs to seriously recollect the time when the DPRK declared a 
just nuclear thunder to defend its supreme interests 20 years back.


*Secondly, our army and people will take an unprecedented 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Does that mean that the majority of movies in the future will not be 
worth the price of admission?


AKA - I'm willing to spend a few bucks for the 2/4/6 of us to watch, but 
not willing to spend $10 each for it



--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 6:38 AM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote:


Same here, hate to say it, this is the way movies should go, I 
understand paying a premium to movie theaters, but a bet as time goes 
on we will see that more and more, direct to streaming.


Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – 
www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

Watched it off Google Play.  10/10 did lol

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo

- Original Message -

*From:*Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com

*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

*Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about
starting a price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable
companies.

I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see
why.  They just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and
fracking.  They probably need it to be $100 to support their
economy and lifestyle since they don’t produce anything but oil,
but they are probably profitable at $10.

*From:*Mark Radabaugh via Af mailto:af@afmug.com

*Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present.

The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC?   $100,
$100, $100, $50, $100.

When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative
drilling and investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC
raises the price back and ensures they stay relevant.

The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies -
Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries.

The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into
a number of political battles.

Mark


On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

Wonder what the play is there.  How long will gas prices stay
this low?  And how low will they go?  Saudi Arabia is in the
drivers seat for now.  Russia and a few of the OPEC nations
are getting it in the shorts.

Someone will blink.  I'm betting that gas will turn around in
3-6 months.


--

bp

part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

  


On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Yep:


http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html

*From:*Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com

*Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures?

*From:*Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com

*Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM

*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

Get a few 55 gallon drums.  That's what we did around 2006.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did
not  have a shelf life.

*From:*Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com

*Sent:*Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM

*To:*Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

Gas at 1.87 a gallon today

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

As long as they leave my shrubbery  alone.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I think we still 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
I'm impressed if you made it all the way through...

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

That was extremely difficult for me to read...


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com



On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies

The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on 
November 23:

We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be 
entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US 
and it followers.

This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and 
hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another 
anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of 
the situation with reason.

This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad 
and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put 
the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated 
human rights racket against the DPRK.

We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it.

However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such 
reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at 
the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle, 
instead of thinking twice.

The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly 
following and obeying it voted for it.

This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, 
politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth 
with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people.

What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury 
and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high.

The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for 
daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the 
socialist system, the cradle of our people.

The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on 
human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving 
impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK 
solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard:

Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on 
human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN.

We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable 
hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights.

The same is the case with the present resolution.

This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of 
misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after 
committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning 
their native places and parents and wives and children.

It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was 
railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery 
by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN 
member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience.

Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US 
which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN 
Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and 
non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle.

This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like 
a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission.

But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and 
demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance.

The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly 
trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took 
countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And 
such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them 
joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief 
crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in 
history.

Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal apology by 
bending its knees before us for its crimes.

This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the EU as 
well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go scot-free.

This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the UN to make 
haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under control, 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Actually, I couldn't.  Read the first couple of paragraphs, then just 
skipped to the *bolded* bits.  You have to wonder...  Still even that 
was hard for me to slog through.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 8:39 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:

I'm impressed if you made it all the way through...

*From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af 
[af@afmug.com]

*Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 10:34 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

That was extremely difficult for me to read...

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:


*DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies*

/The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following 
statement on November 23:/


We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to 
be entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up 
by the US and it followers.


This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by 
confrontation and hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from 
committing another anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice 
after judging the gravity of the situation with reason.


This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home 
and abroad and various righteous and upright countries made every 
possible effort to put the situation under control while voicing 
opposition to the US-orchestrated human rights racket against the 
DPRK.


We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it.

However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated 
such reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on 
human rights at the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of 
elementary view and principle, instead of thinking twice.


The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member 
states blindly following and obeying it voted for it.


This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a 
shameless, politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with 
injustice and cover truth with lies and the height of impudent 
burlesque to deceive the world people.


What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into 
great fury and their determination to make retaliation against this 
is running high.


The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless 
punishment for daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly 
trying to bring down the socialist system, the cradle of our people.


The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable 
resolution on human rights against the DPRK and, not content with 
this, continue behaving impudently as if they had put it in an 
awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK solemnly declares the following 
principled stand in this regard:


*Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the 
resolution on human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by 
abusing UN.*


We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led 
undesirable hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital 
rights.


The same is the case with the present resolution.

This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the 
basis of misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled 
the country after committing unpardonable crimes before our country 
and its people and abandoning their native places and parents and 
wives and children.


It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud 
as it was railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, 
allurement and bribery by hostile forces including the US, without 
expression of the free will of UN member states that sympathize with 
justice and value conscience.


Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of 
the US which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in 
violation of the UN Charter which considers respect for the 
sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in their internal 
affairs as a basic principle.


This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human 
dignity like a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission.


But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence 
and demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance.


The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have 
mercilessly trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and 
develop and took countless human lives in Korea and other parts of 
the world for centuries. And such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye 
group of south Korea kowtowing to them joined them in sponsoring the 
above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief crying Stop the 
thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in history.


Our army and people urge the Obama 

[AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be
accessed from the Internet?  In bridged mode this is not a problem since the
Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a
public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed.  We got
Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still
responds on the Public side of the NAT.  Could this just be an oversight on
their part?

 

Steve B



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Two WAN like Canopy.  I believe it was added in 2.3.3.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be
 accessed from the Internet?  In bridged mode this is not a problem since
 the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and
 a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed.  We
 got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still
 responds on the Public side of the NAT.  Could this just be an oversight on
 their part?



 Steve B



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
They did but the radio still responds on the NAT public IP.  In our case
that's a PPPoE connection.

 

Steve B.

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

 

Two WAN like Canopy.  I believe it was added in 2.3.3.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be
accessed from the Internet?  In bridged mode this is not a problem since the
Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a
public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed.  We got
Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still
responds on the Public side of the NAT.  Could this just be an oversight on
their part?

 

Steve B



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
I don't know that the radio is capable of distinguishing the difference
between a forward packet and Input like Mikrotik.

 

Steve B. 

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

 

Firewall it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 26, 2014 11:54 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

They did but the radio still responds on the NAT public IP.  In our case
that's a PPPoE connection.

 

Steve B.

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

 

Two WAN like Canopy.  I believe it was added in 2.3.3.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be
accessed from the Internet?  In bridged mode this is not a problem since the
Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a
public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed.  We got
Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still
responds on the Public side of the NAT.  Could this just be an oversight on
their part?

 

Steve B



Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af

Possibly delayed until a later release?

I know that on Canopy, the management interface and the public IP in NAT 
mode are completely different TCP stacks.  I'm not sure that's possible 
(easily) on a platform like ePMP.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 8:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af wrote:


Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be 
accessed from the Internet?  In bridged mode this is not a problem 
since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is 
enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface 
is exposed.  We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management 
but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this 
just be an oversight on their part?


Steve B





Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Powercode does bits down to the minute.

If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a
 customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability
 to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.
 My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B





Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

2014-12-26 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
Can't you just firewall the management ports?


From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Wireless Admin via Af 
[af@afmug.com]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet

I don’t know that the radio is capable of distinguishing the difference between 
a forward packet and Input like Mikrotik.

Steve B.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet


Firewall it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 26, 2014 11:54 AM, Wireless Admin via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
They did but the radio still responds on the NAT public IP.  In our case that’s 
a PPPoE connection.

Steve B.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:48 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet


Two WAN like Canopy.  I believe it was added in 2.3.3.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed 
from the Internet?  In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can 
be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is 
used on the radio the management interface is exposed.  We got Cambium to 
implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the 
Public side of the NAT.  Could this just be an oversight on their part?

Steve B


Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user
is logged in and what theyre doing

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock
 it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won’t tell them what is
 using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff
 off to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut
 off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet.  Or
 look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the
 Internet?  Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has
 been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.

  *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report


 Powercode does bits down to the minute.

 If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a
 customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability
 to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.
 My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B






-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

2014-12-26 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
They are starting to experiment with monthly subscriptions to movie theaters.  
Still doesn’t address the issue that when streaming at home you don’t have to 
pay for each person in the family.

From: Bill Prince via Af 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

Does that mean that the majority of movies in the future will not be worth the 
price of admission?

AKA - I'm willing to spend a few bucks for the 2/4/6 of us to watch, but not 
willing to spend $10 each for it



--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 6:38 AM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote:

  Same here, hate to say it, this is the way movies should go, I understand 
paying a premium to movie theaters, but a bet as time goes on we will see that 
more and more, direct to streaming.  

   

  Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

  den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
  Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:49 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

   

  Watched it off Google Play.  10/10 did lol

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   

  too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo

   

- Original Message - 

From: Ken Hohhof via Af 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a 
price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies.

 

I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why.  They 
just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking.  They probably 
need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since they don’t 
produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at $10.

 

 

From: Mark Radabaugh via Af 

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present.

The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC?   $100, $100, $100, 
$50, $100.

When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling and 
investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and 
ensures they stay relevant.

The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia, 
ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries.

The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a number 
of political battles.

Mark


On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:

  Wonder what the play is there.  How long will gas prices stay this low?  
And how low will they go?  Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now.  Russia 
and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts.

  Someone will blink.  I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months.




--bppart {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/24/2014 7:11 
AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Yep:


http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures?

 

From: Josh Luthman via Af 

Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

Get a few 55 gallon drums.  That's what we did around 2006.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not  have a 
shelf life.

 

From: Jaime Solorza via Af 

Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM

To: Animal Farm 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...

 

Gas at 1.87 a gallon today

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

As long as they leave my shrubbery  alone. 

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

I think we still have a citadel or two, don’t we?

 

From: Ken Hohhof via Af 

Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:12 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: 

[AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their 
first mistake but possibly one of the worst.


Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
I wonder how many times they got cussed out today so far?
On Dec 26, 2014 11:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their
 first mistake but possibly one of the worst.



Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
I'm sure any kid would be proud to be on a 4th place meth team!

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jay Weekley via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:51 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their
first mistake but possibly one of the worst.


Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af

That can't be right; they all have teeth!

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:
Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their 
first mistake but possibly one of the worst.




[AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-26 Thread timothy steele via Af
Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode 
routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this?

Thanks

—
Sent from Mailbox

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
I may actually buy the paper for the next day or two to see what they do 
to make it right.


joseph marsh via Af wrote:


I wonder how many times they got cussed out today so far?

On Dec 26, 2014 11:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from
their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.





Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
If youre number 4 in meth production thats pretty good, not breaking bad
good, but still, you have to have a pretty good recipe and cooking skills


On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 That can't be right; they all have teeth!

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote:

 Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their
 first mistake but possibly one of the worst.





-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
It's a known issue.  I think the problem is fragmented packets, but 
don't quote me on that.


It's fixed in 13.2, but that's only available on 430/450 PMP platforms.

I don't think it is on 13.1.2,. which (I think) is the last release for 
FSK.  Too bad, because there are several little niggling functional 
issues that would be nice to have fixed (like this one).


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 10:13 AM, timothy steele via Af wrote:
Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT 
mode routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this?


Thanks

—
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox




Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-26 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Is LAN IP 192.168.100.x?

From: timothy steele via Af 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode 
routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? 

Thanks

—
Sent from Mailbox 

Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-26 Thread Vince West via Af
The best way we found to combat this issue was set up the SM in bridged
mode and provide the customer with a PPPoE connection.

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Is LAN IP 192.168.100.x?

  *From:* timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

 Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode
 routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this?

 Thanks

 —
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox



Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af

Netflow.

On 12/26/2014 11:01 AM, Wireless Admin via Af wrote:


Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a 
customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I�m talking about the 
ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the 
consumption.  My thought would be to route the customers IP through a 
specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be 
collected.  A sort of debug mode.


Steve B





Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2014-12-26 Thread Chris Wright via Af
I didn’t get past the headline.

Chris Wright
Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 8:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

That was extremely difficult for me to read...



--

bp

part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies

The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on 
November 23:

We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be 
entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US 
and it followers.

This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and 
hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another 
anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of 
the situation with reason.

This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad 
and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put 
the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated 
human rights racket against the DPRK.

We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it.

However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such 
reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at 
the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle, 
instead of thinking twice.

The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly 
following and obeying it voted for it.

This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, 
politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth 
with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people.

What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury 
and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high.

The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for 
daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the 
socialist system, the cradle of our people.

The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on 
human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving 
impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK 
solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard:

Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on 
human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN.

We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable 
hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights.

The same is the case with the present resolution.

This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of 
misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after 
committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning 
their native places and parents and wives and children.

It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was 
railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery 
by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN 
member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience.

Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US 
which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN 
Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and 
non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle.

This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like 
a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission.

But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and 
demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance.

The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly 
trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took 
countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And 
such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them 
joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief 
crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in 
history.

Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal apology by 
bending its knees before us for its crimes.

This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the EU as 
well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go scot-free.

This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the UN to make 
haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under control, 

Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
Is there a low end unit that can do this?  Any Idea what price range?

 

Steve B

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user
is logged in and what theyre doing

 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it
to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won't tell them what is
using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off
to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut off the
satellite TV receiver, I didn't know that used the Internet.  Or look, it
goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet?  Or we
all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for
the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.

 

From: Josh Luthman mailto:af@afmug.com  via Af 

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

Powercode does bits down to the minute.

If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a
detailed report on Internet usage. I'm talking about the ability to show a
customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My thought
would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a
limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of debug mode.

 

Steve B

 





 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925



Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
This isn't exactly what I had in mind but using a router with display would
really help the customer understand the current state of their connection.

 

Steve B.

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it
to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won't tell them what is
using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off
to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut off the
satellite TV receiver, I didn't know that used the Internet.  Or look, it
goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet?  Or we
all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for
the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.

 

From: Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

Powercode does bits down to the minute.

If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a
detailed report on Internet usage. I'm talking about the ability to show a
customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My thought
would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a
limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of debug mode.

 

Steve B

 



Re: [AFMUG] Ghana

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
j...@spitwspots.com

On December 26, 2014 4:28:29 AM AKST, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
What's your email address? Since the list change this is unlike any
common
sort of email list software, hiding all the senders...
 On Dec 26, 2014 12:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  How did you get involved in this?

 --
 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com



-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will
give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract
for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I
guess that can format the reports on these

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:


 http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Is there a low end unit that can do this?  Any Idea what price
 range?



 Steve B


  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what
 user is logged in and what theyre doing



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock
 it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won’t tell them what is
 using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff
 off to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut
 off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet.  Or
 look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the
 Internet?  Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has
 been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.



 *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 Powercode does bits down to the minute.

 If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer
 a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show
 a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My
 thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B







 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

2014-12-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af

in other city they'd fire the editor...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley via Af 
  To: Animal Farm 
  Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:51 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint


  Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their 
  first mistake but possibly one of the worst.


Re: [AFMUG] OT: This DC-10 is now a restaurant

2014-12-26 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
That's sweet!

On Friday, December 26, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Near the Accra airport.



Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Wireless Admin via Af
Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage?  Sorry for the
question but I don't have any experience with this system.

 

Steve B.

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will
give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract
for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I
guess that can format the reports on these

 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9Jet
UR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ

 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

Is there a low end unit that can do this?  Any Idea what price range?

 

Steve B

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user
is logged in and what theyre doing

 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it
to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won't tell them what is
using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off
to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut off the
satellite TV receiver, I didn't know that used the Internet.  Or look, it
goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet?  Or we
all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for
the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.

 

From: Josh mailto:af@afmug.com  Luthman via Af 

Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

 

Powercode does bits down to the minute.

If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a
detailed report on Internet usage. I'm talking about the ability to show a
customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My thought
would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a
limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of debug mode.

 

Steve B

 





 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925



Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177

2014-12-26 Thread Philip Rankin via Af
Hi Steve, Thanks!  I don't think these are the same.  And, btw, I am not
sure that I got any from you.  Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm
gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be!  Anyway, I have
all of the access to the units except the username and password.  The
default admin -- admin doesn't work.  I have tried researching all over the
net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything
yet.

And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from?  Wow, they
work GOOD!  Thanks!

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

I don’t know if you’re working on the same unit we had but here
 are some notes from my test efforts:

- Numbers on the board are as follows:
 mtk-0db-35i-102
P/N 4010-2590
- MMCX connectors
- Uses standard 802.3af power supply
- The default IP is 192.168.0.254 on the lan interface, default login
is admin , admin
- Since the Greenpacket antenna is v/h not dual slant, I removed the
radio from it’s factory case and installed it in a generic case for use
with an external antenna (MARS panel).
- This device does not perform properly.  I’ll replace it with
PMP320.  No reason to continue to spend time on this.



 Steve B


  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip Rankin via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 1:22 PM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177



 I have a couple of Greenpacket wixs-177  --   3.65 Ghz Wimax cpe units
 that I bought cheap and I can't get access due to not knowing/having the
 username and password.  They are not default.  Does anyone have an idea on
 how to do a hardware/firmware rest on these units back to default config?
 I don't find much documentation on the interweb for these units.



 --

 Philip J. Rankin

 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
yes, with the maintenance contract you can get as detailed as you want
without you can only do the source/dest IP/port but not identification of
the traffic type
If you have it at a POP just create a policy (in and out) specific to the
monitored customer and make sure those policies are logging all traffic.
I believe the 60 series does not have internal storage, the higher series
do. but you can send to syslog and one of the open source ones, i dont
recall which, has fortigate specific reporting

Its pretty slick, especially for office environments, the generic cloud
reporting keeps customers happy

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage?  Sorry
 for the question but I don’t have any experience with this system.



 Steve B.
  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will
 give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract
 for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I
 guess that can format the reports on these



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Is there a low end unit that can do this?  Any Idea what price range?



 Steve B


  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user
 is logged in and what theyre doing



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it
 to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won’t tell them what is
 using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff
 off to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut
 off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet.  Or
 look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the
 Internet?  Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has
 been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.



 *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 Powercode does bits down to the minute.

 If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer
 a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show
 a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My
 thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B







 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint

2014-12-26 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
That’s the problem, newspapers have probably fired all the editors to save 
money.  We don’t need no stinkin’ editors.

From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 1:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint


in other city they'd fire the editor...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley via Af 
  To: Animal Farm 
  Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:51 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint

  Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their 
  first mistake but possibly one of the worst.


Re: [AFMUG] Photos form Accra, Ghana

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Omni at the top =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 That perfectly good tower seems to only have one backhaul on it?!?!

 Time to fill it up Eric!

 Sean


 On Friday, December 26, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Attached JPGs




Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread That One Guy via Af
This is a sample base report from the one at my house, I dont have a
maintenance contract and its old hardware and locked in old firmware so
little of it works for the reporting. but this is the default cloud report.
Our contract customers who choose to maintain their maintenance agreements
can do alot more, like AD integration, all that good stuff.

We have done managed office firewalls with these, but normally we just try
to get the customer under a managed services contract.

We have dropped them in on a couple residential customers networks long
enough to pull reports, but its a risk to have money at a residence that is
already abusing the system

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:17 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 yes, with the maintenance contract you can get as detailed as you want
 without you can only do the source/dest IP/port but not identification of
 the traffic type
 If you have it at a POP just create a policy (in and out) specific to the
 monitored customer and make sure those policies are logging all traffic.
 I believe the 60 series does not have internal storage, the higher series
 do. but you can send to syslog and one of the open source ones, i dont
 recall which, has fortigate specific reporting

 Its pretty slick, especially for office environments, the generic cloud
 reporting keeps customers happy

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage?  Sorry
 for the question but I don’t have any experience with this system.



 Steve B.
  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will
 give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract
 for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I
 guess that can format the reports on these



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Is there a low end unit that can do this?  Any Idea what price range?



 Steve B


  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what
 user is logged in and what theyre doing



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock
 it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won’t tell them what is
 using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff
 off to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut
 off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet.  Or
 look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the
 Internet?  Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has
 been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.



 *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 Powercode does bits down to the minute.

 If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer
 a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show
 a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My
 thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B







 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling 

Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177

2014-12-26 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af

On 12/26/14 11:14 AM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote:

Hi Steve, Thanks!  I don't think these are the same.  And, btw, I am not
sure that I got any from you.  Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm
gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be!  Anyway, I
have all of the access to the units except the username and password.
The default admin -- admin doesn't work.  I have tried researching all
over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found
anything yet.

And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from?  Wow,
they work GOOD!  Thanks!




Want another one (includes everything wimax related)? It all works, I'm 
just looking to get out of that market.


~Seth


Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint

2014-12-26 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af

On 12/26/14 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

That’s the problem, newspapers have probably fired all the editors to
save money.  We don’t need no stinkin’ editors.



Who needs editors when spell check works for free?

~Seth


Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177

2014-12-26 Thread Philip Rankin via Af
Hello Seth,

Email me.  wireless...@gmail.com.  I'm Phil

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 On 12/26/14 11:14 AM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks!  I don't think these are the same.  And, btw, I am not
 sure that I got any from you.  Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm
 gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be!  Anyway, I
 have all of the access to the units except the username and password.
 The default admin -- admin doesn't work.  I have tried researching all
 over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found
 anything yet.

 And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from?  Wow,
 they work GOOD!  Thanks!



 Want another one (includes everything wimax related)? It all works, I'm
 just looking to get out of that market.

 ~Seth




-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


[AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
route to host

What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple


Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177

2014-12-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af

Want another one?

Mark

On 12/26/14 2:14 PM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote:
Hi Steve, Thanks!  I don't think these are the same.  And, btw, I am 
not sure that I got any from you.  Things go by so danged fast here, 
and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be!  
Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and 
password.  The default admin -- admin doesn't work.  I have tried 
researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, 
but haven't found anything yet.


And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from?  Wow, 
they work GOOD!  Thanks!




--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex

m...@amplex.net  419.837.5015 x 1021



Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK

2014-12-26 Thread timothy steele via Af
Thanks guys


LAN IP on our SMs are 172.16.x.x not 192.168.x.x


—
Sent from Mailbox

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Is LAN IP 192.168.100.x?
 From: timothy steele via Af 
 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK
 Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode 
 routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? 
 Thanks
 —
 Sent from Mailbox 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Colin Stanners via Af
Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway.
On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
 route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple



Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread timothy steele via Af
I would see if you can find any use NETEQ's

—
Sent from Mailbox

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:26 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This is a sample base report from the one at my house, I dont have a
 maintenance contract and its old hardware and locked in old firmware so
 little of it works for the reporting. but this is the default cloud report.
 Our contract customers who choose to maintain their maintenance agreements
 can do alot more, like AD integration, all that good stuff.
 We have done managed office firewalls with these, but normally we just try
 to get the customer under a managed services contract.
 We have dropped them in on a couple residential customers networks long
 enough to pull reports, but its a risk to have money at a residence that is
 already abusing the system
 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:17 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 yes, with the maintenance contract you can get as detailed as you want
 without you can only do the source/dest IP/port but not identification of
 the traffic type
 If you have it at a POP just create a policy (in and out) specific to the
 monitored customer and make sure those policies are logging all traffic.
 I believe the 60 series does not have internal storage, the higher series
 do. but you can send to syslog and one of the open source ones, i dont
 recall which, has fortigate specific reporting

 Its pretty slick, especially for office environments, the generic cloud
 reporting keeps customers happy

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage?  Sorry
 for the question but I don’t have any experience with this system.



 Steve B.
  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will
 give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract
 for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I
 guess that can format the reports on these



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Is there a low end unit that can do this?  Any Idea what price range?



 Steve B


  --

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via
 Af
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what
 user is logged in and what theyre doing



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock
 it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph.  It won’t tell them what is
 using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff
 off to see what is causing the usage.  Like oh, it went down when I shut
 off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet.  Or
 look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the
 Internet?  Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has
 been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging.



 *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com

 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report



 Powercode does bits down to the minute.

 If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer
 a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show
 a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.  My
 thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B







 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





 --

 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
Ip-routes says everything is reachable
On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway.
 On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
 route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple




Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Colin Stanners via Af
Screen shot?
On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Ip-routes says everything is reachable
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway.
 On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
 route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple




Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af

Do a traceroute and see where it goes off the rails.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 12:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote:


Ip-routes says everything is reachable

On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default
gateway.

On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the
static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and
ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host

What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple





Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177

2014-12-26 Thread Philip Rankin via Af
Another greenpacket?  Depends on price and whether you have passwords.
Let's go off list.  wireless...@gmail.com

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Want another one?

 Mark


 On 12/26/14 2:14 PM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks!  I don't think these are the same.  And, btw, I am not
 sure that I got any from you.  Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm
 gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be!  Anyway, I have
 all of the access to the units except the username and password.  The
 default admin -- admin doesn't work.  I have tried researching all over the
 net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything
 yet.

 And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from?  Wow, they
 work GOOD!  Thanks!


 --
 Mark Radabaugh
 Amplex

 m...@amplex.net  419.837.5015 x 1021




-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177

2014-12-26 Thread Philip Rankin via Af
BTW, everyone.  I was able to contact the seller for my Greenpackets and he
gave me the passwords.  Thanks for looking.   Would be nice to know if
there is some sort of hardware reset on them, though.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Philip Rankin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Another greenpacket?  Depends on price and whether you have passwords.
 Let's go off list.  wireless...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 Want another one?

 Mark


 On 12/26/14 2:14 PM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks!  I don't think these are the same.  And, btw, I am not
 sure that I got any from you.  Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm
 gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be!  Anyway, I have
 all of the access to the units except the username and password.  The
 default admin -- admin doesn't work.  I have tried researching all over the
 net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything
 yet.

 And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from?  Wow,
 they work GOOD!  Thanks!


 --
 Mark Radabaugh
 Amplex

 m...@amplex.net  419.837.5015 x 1021




 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Colin Stanners via Af
I don't understand the reasons for configuration for the 2 other networks
(load balancing/redundancy between 3?) But this seems correct for your
current network. Try tracer out as Bill said.
On Dec 26, 2014 2:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Screen shot?
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Ip-routes says everything is reachable
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default
 gateway.
 On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
 route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple




Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
Swift fox added that  a while back and then emailed them back to see if
they could help
On Dec 26, 2014 2:30 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I don't understand the reasons for configuration for the 2 other networks
 (load balancing/redundancy between 3?) But this seems correct for your
 current network. Try tracer out as Bill said.
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Screen shot?
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Ip-routes says everything is reachable
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default
 gateway.
 On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static
 ip gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I 
 get
 no route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple




Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Simon Westlake via Af
Looks like your default route is using the wrong IP, should it not be 
pointing to the Charter connection?


On 12/26/2014 02:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote:
On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Screen shot?

On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Ip-routes says everything is reachable

On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your
default gateway.

On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed
in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to  new
terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host

What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple



--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com http://powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Simon Westlake via Af
Never mind, just labelled wrong. I agree, just do a traceroute, see 
where it dies.. you should be able to pinpoint it pretty quickly.


On 12/26/2014 02:33 PM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote:
Looks like your default route is using the wrong IP, should it not be 
pointing to the Charter connection?


On 12/26/2014 02:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote:
On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Screen shot?

On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Ip-routes says everything is reachable

On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your
default gateway.

On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed
in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to  new
terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host

What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple



--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com http://powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com


--
Simon Westlake
Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
powercode.com http://powercode.com
P: 920-351-1010
E: si...@powercode.com


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
We have a ubee modem (cable) from charter. I can see it via static ip
locally  but not from outside if the ubee modem
On Dec 26, 2014 2:35 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Never mind, just labelled wrong. I agree, just do a traceroute, see where
 it dies.. you should be able to pinpoint it pretty quickly.

 On 12/26/2014 02:33 PM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote:

 Looks like your default route is using the wrong IP, should it not be
 pointing to the Charter connection?

 On 12/26/2014 02:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Screen shot?
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Ip-routes says everything is reachable
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default
 gateway.
 On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
 route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple


 --
 Simon Westlake
 Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
 powercode.com
 P: 920-351-1010
 E: si...@powercode.com


 --
 Simon Westlake
 Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
 powercode.com
 P: 920-351-1010
 E: si...@powercode.com



[AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today.  
(Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.)

And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday.
I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if  he was still hanging around with the rest 
of us.

So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug.  Is he still doing his thang??

Went to his web site.  Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up 
there.  But what is this I see!!!

Unlimited usage for the same price???  Holy Crap!


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Colin Stanners via Af
OK,  I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x  IP common to
cable modem networks.  Don't know US providers that we'll.


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm using
this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet  and swiftfox
done the initial  config
On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 OK,  I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x  IP common to
 cable modem networks.  Don't know US providers that we'll.



Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
I'm not a professional on mikrotik but. I'm tring to learn on my own but
been messing with this thing since last weekend so I turn to afmug for help
On Dec 26, 2014 2:54 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm
 using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet  and
 swiftfox done the initial  config
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 OK,  I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x  IP common
 to cable modem networks.  Don't know US providers that we'll.




Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
I'll try the trace route
On Dec 26, 2014 2:19 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Do a traceroute and see where it goes off the rails.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/26/2014 12:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote:

 Ip-routes says everything is reachable
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway.
 On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip
 gateway and DNS. When I go to  new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no
 route to host

 What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple





Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread Colin Stanners via Af
If they did some strange setting for the fail-over, you may want to reset
the router to defaults and start from anew, it would likely be easier than
learning router troubleshooting on-site

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm
 using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet  and
 swiftfox done the initial  config
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 OK,  I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x  IP common
 to cable modem networks.  Don't know US providers that we'll.




Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik

2014-12-26 Thread joseph marsh via Af
I'm playing with it in my office and do it when I'm bored
On Dec 26, 2014 3:00 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 If they did some strange setting for the fail-over, you may want to reset
 the router to defaults and start from anew, it would likely be easier than
 learning router troubleshooting on-site

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm
 using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet  and
 swiftfox done the initial  config
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 OK,  I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x  IP common
 to cable modem networks.  Don't know US providers that we'll.




[AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Colin Stanners via Af
Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others
were doing, posted a thought:

Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than
house cleaning.  I don't know this feeling.

Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router
issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I
received for a client.

It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same
manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and
struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing.

Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment?
Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I
noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)


Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Ya I talked to Doug yesterday.  Still chugging along :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 26, 2014 3:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today.
 (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.)

 And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday.
 I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if  he was still hanging around with the
 rest of us.

 So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug.  Is he still doing his
 thang??

 Went to his web site.  Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up
 there.  But what is this I see!!!

 Unlimited usage for the same price???  Holy Crap!




Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I never log into FB either.   I've never created an account; kind solves 
several problems at one time.


Don't know what happened to Doug.  Maybe that little scare he had a 
couple years ago caused him to change religion


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today.
(Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.)
And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday.
I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if  he was still hanging around with 
the rest of us.
So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug.  Is he still doing his 
thang??
Went to his web site.  Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along 
up there.  But what is this I see!!!

Unlimited usage for the same price???  Holy Crap!




Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
Use all you want, he'll bill ya for it.

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
___


On Dec 26, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today.
(Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.)

And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday.
I would say Happy Birthday Doug if  he was still hanging around with the rest 
of us.

So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug.  Is he still doing his thang??

Went to his web site.  Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up 
there.  But what is this I see!!!

Unlimited usage for the same price???  Holy Crap!



Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Yeah, I'm never logged into FB. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 3:22:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB 


I never log into FB either. I've never created an account; kind solves several 
problems at one time. 

Don't know what happened to Doug. Maybe that little scare he had a couple years 
ago caused him to change religion 

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, 
Chuck McCown via Af wrote: 





So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. 
(Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) 

And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. 
I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest 
of us. 

So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? 

Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. 
But what is this I see!!! 

Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap! 






Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
I think it's wireless in general.   It consumes you.

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
___


On Dec 26, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were 
doing, posted a thought:

Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than 
house cleaning.  I don't know this feeling.

Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues 
a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a 
client.

It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same 
manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled 
with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing.

Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does 
it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed 
many here were in their 40s-50s)



Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Nate Burke via Af
Can you go on a vacation and Enjoy it?  Or more specifically, go on a 
vacation and do nothing?  I can handle sitting on a beach for all of 
about 15 minutes, then I'm ready to go do something, Anything.  I think 
that lends itself to personality.  In my case, it's 'I'm paying how much 
per day for this cruise/hotel? By Golly I'm going to get as much as I 
can out of it, I can sit around at home'



On 12/26/2014 3:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af wrote:
Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what 
others were doing, posted a thought:


Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other 
than house cleaning.  I don't know this feeling.


Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot 
router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V 
gear I received for a client.


It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the 
same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived 
and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing.


Is that difference in people based more on personality or the 
environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? 
(from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)







Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Yeah, some people talk about going to the middle of nowhere and unplugging... 
It's not for everyone. I think people like that are lazy. Damn it, there's work 
to be done somewhere! :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 3:32:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life 

Can you go on a vacation and Enjoy it? Or more specifically, go on a 
vacation and do nothing? I can handle sitting on a beach for all of 
about 15 minutes, then I'm ready to go do something, Anything. I think 
that lends itself to personality. In my case, it's 'I'm paying how much 
per day for this cruise/hotel? By Golly I'm going to get as much as I 
can out of it, I can sit around at home' 


On 12/26/2014 3:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af wrote: 
 Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what 
 others were doing, posted a thought: 
 
 Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other 
 than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. 
 
 Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot 
 router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V 
 gear I received for a client. 
 
 It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the 
 same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived 
 and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. 
 
 Is that difference in people based more on personality or the 
 environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? 
 (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s) 
 
 




Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
I was blown away with the continued number of emails on this list over the past 
three days.

I'll check emails, but I'm not doing a damn thing work related unless a few 
hundred subs are offline.

If I worked any more than I already do I'd be divorced and my kids wouldn't 
know my name.


On December 26, 2014 12:19:03 PM AKST, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com 
wrote:
Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others
were doing, posted a thought:

Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other
than
house cleaning.  I don't know this feeling.

Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot
router
issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I
received for a client.

It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the
same
manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and
struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing.

Is that difference in people based more on personality or the
environment?
Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical
AF I
noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Hard to say.  I get bored sooo freeking easy it drives me crazy.  I have a very 
conventional life.  Married at 22.  8 kids.  Grandparents now.  Wife always did 
the wife thing.  I always did  the work thing.  But I am jaded when it comes to 
stimulating the little gray cells.  I would guess many on this list are a bit 
on the restless side as well.  

Of all the many positive (or negative)  attributes a person might have (smart,  
hard worker, honest, inventive, etc etc) the only one that correlates with 
being successful in business is ambition.  And ambitious folks are restless.  
Talking Soy restless, not Estoy restless.  

From: Colin Stanners via Af 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were 
doing, posted a thought:


Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than 
house cleaning.  I don't know this feeling. 
Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues 
a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a 
client.

It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same 
manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled 
with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing.

Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does 
it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed 
many here were in their 40s-50s)





Re: [AFMUG] My new gloves s

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I didn't see the ellipses at first. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com 
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:56:58 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] My new gloves s 


Warm and flexible..wife just bought them for me 
Jaime Solorza 


Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I asked about something similar a while back. Someone (maybe Mark in Florida) 
showed me pretty much exactly what I was looking for. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:01:53 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report 



Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a 
detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a 
customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would 
be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period 
of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. 

Steve B 



[AFMUG] Lease options

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Saw the ad from Ritalia a couple weeks back, and it may suit our 
purposes to get some extra equipment in the air sooner than our more 
typical pay-from-cash-flow model.  Has anyone worked with these folks or 
have other leasing companies that they like better?  What is the metric 
on what we should be expecting to pay for this service ($x MRC versus $y 
equipment purchase cost)?


--
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com



Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
This list and email is about all for me

Jaime Solorza
On Dec 26, 2014 2:25 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Yeah, I'm never logged into FB.  ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 3:22:43 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

 I never log into FB either.   I've never created an account; kind solves
 several problems at one time.

 Don't know what happened to Doug.  Maybe that little scare he had a couple
 years ago caused him to change religion

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

  So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today.
 (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.)

 And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday.
 I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if  he was still hanging around with the
 rest of us.

 So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug.  Is he still doing his
 thang??

 Went to his web site.  Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up
 there.  But what is this I see!!!

 Unlimited usage for the same price???  Holy Crap!







Re: [AFMUG] Lease options

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Roughly 10% finance charges.

I've worked with LCA for a while.  Just look for the basics like $1 buyout,
good record with vendors and such.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Saw the ad from Ritalia a couple weeks back, and it may suit our purposes
 to get some extra equipment in the air sooner than our more typical
 pay-from-cash-flow model.  Has anyone worked with these folks or have other
 leasing companies that they like better?  What is the metric on what we
 should be expecting to pay for this service ($x MRC versus $y equipment
 purchase cost)?

 --
 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com




[AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test

2014-12-26 Thread Nate Burke via Af
Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic 
that has been happening every 10 minutes all day.  Finally tracked it 
down to my Speedtest.net server.  Someone automated pulling the test 
files via HTTP.  It shows up in my server logs, but not in the 
speedtest.net reports.


They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files.

I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a 
little rude.


Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up.

Nate


Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
It's good to know there are still rude people out there.  I was beginning
to worry.

Thanks for the heads up!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that
 has been happening every 10 minutes all day.  Finally tracked it down to my
 Speedtest.net server.  Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP.
 It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports.

 They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files.

 I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little
 rude.

 Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up.

 Nate



[AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven't seen if for a
while.  A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial
business park.  We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if
they buy the camera.  A little good will between us, them, and the
community.  So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money
are we talking to get something that doesn't suck?

 

It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution.  Good low light would be nice
but no IR illuminators needed, obviously.  I assume a small heater is
required to avoid condensation but I don't know that.  Are these available
POE?

 

PC

Blaze Broadband

 



Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
What's wrong with using a Ubnt AirCam?

http://inxwireless.com/rain/


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven’t seen if for
 a while.  A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his
 commercial business park.  We might install and provide local bandwidth for
 free if they buy the camera.  A little good will between us, them, and the
 community.  So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money
 are we talking to get something that doesn’t suck?



 It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution.  Good low light would be
 nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously.  I assume a small heater is
 required to avoid condensation but I don’t know that.  Are these available
 POE?



 PC

 Blaze Broadband





Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test

2014-12-26 Thread Nate Burke via Af
I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is 
queued to a random speed each time they pull the files.  Or would that 
be rude?



On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
It's good to know there are still rude people out there.  I was 
beginning to worry.


Thanks for the heads up!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound
traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally
tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server.  Someone automated
pulling the test files via HTTP.  It shows up in my server logs,
but not in the speedtest.net http://speedtest.net reports.

They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files.

I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems
a little rude.

Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net
http://speedtest.net server a heads up.

Nate





Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

2014-12-26 Thread Jeremy via Af
Yeah, I still talk to him.  He felt that he had to go unlimited due to
increasing competition in his area.  Never say never I guess.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This list and email is about all for me

 Jaime Solorza
 On Dec 26, 2014 2:25 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Yeah, I'm never logged into FB.  ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 3:22:43 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB

 I never log into FB either.   I've never created an account; kind solves
 several problems at one time.

 Don't know what happened to Doug.  Maybe that little scare he had a
 couple years ago caused him to change religion

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

  So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today.
 (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.)

 And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday.
 I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if  he was still hanging around with
 the rest of us.

 So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug.  Is he still doing his
 thang??

 Went to his web site.  Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up
 there.  But what is this I see!!!

 Unlimited usage for the same price???  Holy Crap!







Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Philip Rankin via Af
Josh, is that your own webpage construction or are you farming that out to
someone somehow?

Phil

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 What's wrong with using a Ubnt AirCam?

 http://inxwireless.com/rain/


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven’t seen if for
 a while.  A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his
 commercial business park.  We might install and provide local bandwidth for
 free if they buy the camera.  A little good will between us, them, and the
 community.  So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money
 are we talking to get something that doesn’t suck?



 It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution.  Good low light would be
 nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously.  I assume a small heater is
 required to avoid condensation but I don’t know that.  Are these available
 POE?



 PC

 Blaze Broadband







-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Jeremy via Af
Most every consumer router has the ability to turn on logging.  It will
only show them inbound and outbound IP addresses though.  You have to cross
reference the IP with Google to find out what it is.  It definitely leaves
something to be desired.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I asked about something similar a while back. Someone (maybe Mark in
 Florida) showed me pretty much exactly what I was looking for.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 11:01:53 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer -  Detailed Usage Report

  Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a
 customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability
 to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption.
 My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process
 for a limited period of time so details could be collected.  A sort of
 debug mode.



 Steve B






Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Bill Prince via Af
What kind of distance are you talking about?  Critical issue if you 
wanted IR, because there are serious limitations on how far you will get 
decent video with IR (no greater than 100', and that might be a 
stretch).  But the distance would dictate what kind of 
magnification/lenses are required.


--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/26/2014 2:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote:


This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven�t seen if 
for a while.  A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his 
commercial business park.  We might install and provide local 
bandwidth for free if they buy the camera.  A little good will between 
us, them, and the community.  So knowing this is not a money maker for 
anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn�t suck?


It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be 
nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously.  I assume a small 
heater is required to avoid condensation but I don�t know that.  Are 
these available POE?


PC

Blaze Broadband





Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

2014-12-26 Thread Jeremy via Af
I get bored doing nothing.  My vacations are planned out in advance in
great detail so as to always stay busy.  I still check emails.  I answer my
phone pretty much anytime, unless it is an out of state area code (too many
telemarketers).  I am consumed by my work but I still find time for
family.  However, I am pretty much always sitting on this laptop at home.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Hard to say.  I get bored sooo freeking easy it drives me crazy.  I
 have a very conventional life.  Married at 22.  8 kids.  Grandparents now.
 Wife always did the wife thing.  I always did  the work thing.  But I am
 jaded when it comes to stimulating the little gray cells.  I would guess
 many on this list are a bit on the restless side as well.

 Of all the many positive (or negative)  attributes a person might have
 (smart,  hard worker, honest, inventive, etc etc) the only one that
 correlates with being successful in business is ambition.  And ambitious
 folks are restless.  Talking Soy restless, not Estoy restless.

  *From:* Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:19 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life

  Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others
 were doing, posted a thought:

 Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other
 than house cleaning.  I don't know this feeling.

 Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router
 issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I
 received for a client.

 It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the
 same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and
 struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing.

 Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment?
 Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I
 noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)





Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test

2014-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Waste of your time IMO.  Not very fun.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is
 queued to a random speed each time they pull the files.  Or would that be
 rude?


 On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 It's good to know there are still rude people out there.  I was beginning
 to worry.

  Thanks for the heads up!


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic
 that has been happening every 10 minutes all day.  Finally tracked it down
 to my Speedtest.net server.  Someone automated pulling the test files via
 HTTP.  It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net
 reports.

 They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files.

 I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a
 little rude.

 Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads
 up.

 Nate





Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test

2014-12-26 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
Dropping all their traffic sounds like a more fun solution.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Waste of your time IMO.  Not very fun.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is
 queued to a random speed each time they pull the files.  Or would that be
 rude?


 On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 It's good to know there are still rude people out there.  I was beginning
 to worry.

  Thanks for the heads up!


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic
 that has been happening every 10 minutes all day.  Finally tracked it down
 to my Speedtest.net server.  Someone automated pulling the test files via
 HTTP.  It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net
 reports.

 They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files.

 I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a
 little rude.

 Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads
 up.

 Nate






Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I don't care where it goes. I wanted to know what device was using it. Knowing 
that 15 megabit went to Bill's hosting company is fairly useless. Knowing that 
Junior's laptop is moving 15 megs, though, is very useful. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 4:44:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report 


Most every consumer router has the ability to turn on logging. It will only 
show them inbound and outbound IP addresses though. You have to cross reference 
the IP with Google to find out what it is. It definitely leaves something to be 
desired. 


On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 




I asked about something similar a while back. Someone (maybe Mark in Florida) 
showed me pretty much exactly what I was looking for. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 





From: Wireless Admin via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:01:53 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report 



Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a 
detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a 
customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would 
be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period 
of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. 

Steve B 







Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test

2014-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Dropping it is no fun. Low and varying limits would be. If you can script to 
route them in a circle, that'd be fun too. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 4:52:14 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test 


Dropping all their traffic sounds like a more fun solution. 


On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


Waste of your time IMO. Not very fun. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote

I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is queued to a 
random speed each time they pull the files. Or would that be rude? 



On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: 

blockquote

It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to 
worry. 


Thanks for the heads up! 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


blockquote
Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has 
been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my 
Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It 
shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. 

They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. 

I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little 
rude. 

Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. 

Nate 



/blockquote


/blockquote


/blockquote



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