Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
*nods* I am a Mel Brooks fan. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:11:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Well, there are movies that satisfy those criteria but are also classics, like anything by Mel Brooks or Harold Ramis. I was reminded of Space Balls today by an article about 10 gigabit Internet that referenced Ludicrous Speed. They’ve Gone To Plaid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0 From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review sophomoric, moronic, and extremely poor, gross taste Those are usually the movies I prefer. That and stuff with boobs or things that blow up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:41:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Yea, it was sophomoric, moronic, and extremely poor, gross taste. I watched it out of pure patriotism. J Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:13 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Neither actor interest me. Actually none of the movie fare piques my interest all. We always go to movies on Christmas Day. Oh well. Enjoy the movie Jaime Solorza On Dec 25, 2014 9:03 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We are watching it now. Rory From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review The Interview. Exactly what you would expect from Rogan and Franco. Pineapple Express in North Korea. Instead of video killed the radio star I think it now is - streaming has killed the distribution company. Odd that my wife bought me a book for Christmas. Half way through it I watched the move on YouTube. The book is “Escape from Camp 14”. Biography of a kid that was born in a North Korean prison camp. He grew up and escaped. So far he is the only one they know about. I have read Victor Frankl, Anne Frank and others. Have seen “Night and Fog” multiple times. North Korea is worse in some ways.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
Same here, hate to say it, this is the way movies should go, I understand paying a premium to movie theaters, but a bet as time goes on we will see that more and more, direct to streaming. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Watched it off Google Play. 10/10 did lol Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies. I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why. They just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking. They probably need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since they don’t produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at $10. From: Mark Radabaugh via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present. The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC? $100, $100, $100, $50, $100. When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling and investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and ensures they stay relevant. The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries. The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a number of political battles. Mark On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Wonder what the play is there. How long will gas prices stay this low? And how low will they go? Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now. Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts. Someone will blink. I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yep: http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html From: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures? From: Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Get a few 55 gallon drums. That's what we did around 2006. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not have a shelf life. From: Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Gas at 1.87 a gallon today Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: As long
Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support
I set up an arrangement with our local PC shop (also happens to be our partner retail store) where our customers could get a PC checkup for free, the trade off is they get foot traffic in the store. we pawn everything off on them when things are going as they should. they charge a varying amount to set things up for the customers, but it gets them off our backs. On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ask Siri to explain it to you. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:18 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Okay, then it doesn't make it intuitive to do attachments. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:38:22 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Attached and sent from my iPhone ;-) Merry Christmas -sean On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: For sure on Android. I never assume iOS can do anything you'd ever want to do, so I haven't tried. It can't even do e-mail attachments. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:27:11 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Can you go to the manufacturer download site, save the file to the phone, then go to the firmware update page in the router GUI, and browse to the file you saved earlier, just like on a PC? *From:* Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support Phone can just use the web interface like a PC would. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: My current problem is I scanned my network and found about 45 customers with UPnP open to the Internet, I think they are mostly DLinks with some older Linksys thrown in. I sent a little note to each of them recommending they update the firmware and/or disable UPnP, then run the Rapid7 “Scan My Router Now” test. There is even a DLink video telling you how to update your firmware: How to upgrade the firmware on your router https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHnacMKb2ro I would venture a guess 99% of customers have never updated their router firmware. This is something IMHO they need to know how to do or pay someone to do, like changing the oil in your car. I think the only way Windows Update ever gets run is because the computer came with it configured for automatic updates. What’s scary is the trend toward people having only phones, tablets, game consoles, TVs, Rokus, etc. on their WiFi, no actual computers and certainly nothing with an Ethernet cable. How do you update the firmware on your router from a phone, if they want you to download the firmware to your computer and then upload it to the router? At least Netgear gives you buttons when you log into the router GUI to check for new firmware and to do the upgrade, without having to first store it on your computer. And as dependent as these remote support companies are on remote control software like Teamviewer and GoToSupport, how do they handle the customer with no computers? Do they remote into a phone or tablet? Even if that is possible, it’s got to be really clumsy to reprogram someone’s WiFi using a remote session to a WiFi device. *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support thats why i love reverse DHCP based on MAC. Tell us you have a new router, check the bridge table on the SM and update the mac. Additionally, a lot of people NAT the sms. Early days we had trouble with that and i've just never liked it... - Original Message - *From:* Philip Rankin via Af *To:* af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support The first thing the manufacturer does is tell the customer to hard reset their router. If you use pppoe like we do, then someone has to re-setup the pppoe information. You are FAR better off to simply handle your customer computer problems yourself and charge a lot for the
Re: [AFMUG] West Africa Ebola response mission
I happen to be an inactive EMT - I On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: OK for the knowledge and being able to help. I have been able to help multiple people multiple times. Just not OK as a job... for me. Not OK as a steady diet. Glad others are OK with it but it was very depressing for me. It hit me very early on that every time I was actually doing my job, it was because something bad has happened. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] West Africa Ebola response mission I went through the Army Combat Lifesaver course in a former life, then went through some impromptu combat medical training with 3rd BN 75th Ranger Regiment for a few weeks during deployment - nothing official, but incredibly valuable. I still keep a red medical bag in my jeep just for emergencies. I've always wanted to go through official EMT training, just don't want the response burden that goes along with it. I enjoy being able to help in an emergency under good samaritan laws. On December 25, 2014 6:29:23 PM AKST, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was an EMT in a former life. Hated it. Not my cup of postum. *From:* Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 4:33 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] West Africa Ebola response mission Hello guys, Merry Christmas! I'm currently in Accra, Ghana working on getting a new visa for Sierra Leone. For the first quarter of this year I'm contracting with an international NGO which is providing WAN connectivity to other agencies responding to the Ebola crisis. We are using a mixture of satellite based and terrestrial PTP/PtMP technologies to accomplish the last mile access. Over the next few weeks you may see me posting photos from Freetown, Sierra Leone to the afmug list. If it becomes excessive please let me know. Communicating with you guys back in the US is a big stress relief for me. If anyone wants my direct contact info, please email and I will send back my iridium number and local SIM cards' numbers. REQUEST: If anyone knows a fearless EMT/Paramedic who wants to accompany a tower climbing team for multi month periods of time, in exchange for good financial compensation, please get in touch. No Ebola treatment unit entry required. To date, zero aid agency workers who do not have direct personal contact with Ebola patients have contracted the disease. Adventure and relatively low risk. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin
Mike, Can you ditch the hot linked images in your signature?The warning messages from the email client get to be a bit old. Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter don't really need to know every time someone looks at one of your messages. Mark On 12/26/14 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: The NY Times piece I think hits the nail on the head... it's people clicking on things without reading what they're doing, then blaming somebody else for their actions. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 5:19:28 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/14/linkedin-faces-lawsuit-for-emailing-user-contacts-without-permission/ http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/users-sue-linkedin-over-harvesting-of-e-mail-addresses/?_r=0 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Agreed. It only messages or invites people that you authorize it to. Anyone that told you different is a liar. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:47:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin It only does that if you (at least in Apple IOS) if you tell it to. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I refuse to use LinkedIn since the news that it randomly steals your entire iOS / Android contact list and auto spams everyone. Such BS. On Dec 25, 2014 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people... -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin
I usually set each sender that not a SPAMmer on a safe list that just displays them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 9:29:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin They're hosted on my server, not the various services. I'll look into a way to embed them in the e-mail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 9:27:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin Mike, Can you ditch the hot linked images in your signature? The warning messages from the email client get to be a bit old. Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter don't really need to know every time someone looks at one of your messages. Mark On 12/26/14 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: The NY Times piece I think hits the nail on the head... it's people clicking on things without reading what they're doing, then blaming somebody else for their actions. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 5:19:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/14/linkedin-faces-lawsuit-for-emailing-user-contacts-without-permission/ http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/users-sue-linkedin-over-harvesting-of-e-mail-addresses/?_r=0 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote Agreed. It only messages or invites people that you authorize it to. Anyone that told you different is a liar. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:47:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin It only does that if you (at least in Apple IOS) if you tell it to. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies , Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I refuse to use LinkedIn since the news that it randomly steals your entire iOS / Android contact list and auto spams everyone. Such BS. On Dec 25, 2014 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people... /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin
I get a kick out of it when my mom endorses me On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Mike, Can you ditch the hot linked images in your signature?The warning messages from the email client get to be a bit old. Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, and Twitter don't really need to know every time someone looks at one of your messages. Mark On 12/26/14 7:43 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: The NY Times piece I think hits the nail on the head... it's people clicking on things without reading what they're doing, then blaming somebody else for their actions. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 5:19:28 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/14/linkedin-faces-lawsuit-for-emailing-user-contacts-without-permission/ http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/users-sue-linkedin-over-harvesting-of-e-mail-addresses/?_r=0 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Agreed. It only messages or invites people that you authorize it to. Anyone that told you different is a liar. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:47:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin It only does that if you (at least in Apple IOS) if you tell it to. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I refuse to use LinkedIn since the news that it randomly steals your entire iOS / Android contact list and auto spams everyone. Such BS. On Dec 25, 2014 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people... -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] WAV, Inc. Now Carrying Shireen Cables Accessories
Wanted to let everyone know that WAV, Inc. will now be officially carrying the Shireen line of cables (DC-1021 and DC-1042) and accessories. We placed our first stocking order today, and with some more feedback offline, would like to know how many boxes per month you would be ordering. Mark Chamerlik WAV(r), Inc Strategic Account Manager East Coast visit our new products pagehttp://www.wavonline.com/products.aspx [Description: twitter-logo-100x100.png]http://twitter.com/#!/WAVonline/ [Description: fb-logo-100x100.png] http://www.facebook.com/pages/WAV-Inc/290775077620146 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-818-1000.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
That was extremely difficult for me to read... -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: *DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies* /The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on November 23:/ We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US and it followers. This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of the situation with reason. This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated human rights racket against the DPRK. We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it. However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle, instead of thinking twice. The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly following and obeying it voted for it. This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people. What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high. The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the socialist system, the cradle of our people. The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard: *Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN.* We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights. The same is the case with the present resolution. This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning their native places and parents and wives and children. It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience. Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle. This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission. But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance. The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in history. Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal apology by bending its knees before us for its crimes. This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the EU as well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go scot-free. This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the UN to make haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under control, though belatedly. The UN needs to seriously recollect the time when the DPRK declared a just nuclear thunder to defend its supreme interests 20 years back. *Secondly, our army and people will take an unprecedented
Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
Does that mean that the majority of movies in the future will not be worth the price of admission? AKA - I'm willing to spend a few bucks for the 2/4/6 of us to watch, but not willing to spend $10 each for it -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 6:38 AM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote: Same here, hate to say it, this is the way movies should go, I understand paying a premium to movie theaters, but a bet as time goes on we will see that more and more, direct to streaming. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Watched it off Google Play. 10/10 did lol Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo - Original Message - *From:*Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies. I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why. They just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking. They probably need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since they don’t produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at $10. *From:*Mark Radabaugh via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present. The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC? $100, $100, $100, $50, $100. When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling and investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and ensures they stay relevant. The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries. The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a number of political battles. Mark On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Wonder what the play is there. How long will gas prices stay this low? And how low will they go? Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now. Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts. Someone will blink. I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yep: http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html *From:*Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures? *From:*Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Get a few 55 gallon drums. That's what we did around 2006. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not have a shelf life. *From:*Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM *To:*Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Gas at 1.87 a gallon today Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: As long as they leave my shrubbery alone. Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I think we still
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
I'm impressed if you made it all the way through... From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review That was extremely difficult for me to read... -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on November 23: We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US and it followers. This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of the situation with reason. This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated human rights racket against the DPRK. We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it. However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle, instead of thinking twice. The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly following and obeying it voted for it. This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people. What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high. The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the socialist system, the cradle of our people. The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard: Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN. We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights. The same is the case with the present resolution. This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning their native places and parents and wives and children. It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience. Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle. This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission. But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance. The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in history. Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal apology by bending its knees before us for its crimes. This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the EU as well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go scot-free. This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the UN to make haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under control,
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
Actually, I couldn't. Read the first couple of paragraphs, then just skipped to the *bolded* bits. You have to wonder... Still even that was hard for me to slog through. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 8:39 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: I'm impressed if you made it all the way through... *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince via Af [af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 10:34 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review That was extremely difficult for me to read... -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: *DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies* /The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on November 23:/ We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US and it followers. This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of the situation with reason. This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated human rights racket against the DPRK. We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it. However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle, instead of thinking twice. The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly following and obeying it voted for it. This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people. What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high. The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the socialist system, the cradle of our people. The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard: *Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN.* We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights. The same is the case with the present resolution. This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning their native places and parents and wives and children. It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience. Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle. This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission. But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance. The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in history. Our army and people urge the Obama
[AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
Two WAN like Canopy. I believe it was added in 2.3.3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
They did but the radio still responds on the NAT public IP. In our case that's a PPPoE connection. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet Two WAN like Canopy. I believe it was added in 2.3.3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
I don't know that the radio is capable of distinguishing the difference between a forward packet and Input like Mikrotik. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet Firewall it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:54 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: They did but the radio still responds on the NAT public IP. In our case that's a PPPoE connection. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet Two WAN like Canopy. I believe it was added in 2.3.3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
Possibly delayed until a later release? I know that on Canopy, the management interface and the public IP in NAT mode are completely different TCP stacks. I'm not sure that's possible (easily) on a platform like ePMP. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 8:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af wrote: Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet
Can't you just firewall the management ports? From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Wireless Admin via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet I don’t know that the radio is capable of distinguishing the difference between a forward packet and Input like Mikrotik. Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet Firewall it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:54 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: They did but the radio still responds on the NAT public IP. In our case that’s a PPPoE connection. Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:48 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP management access from Internet Two WAN like Canopy. I believe it was added in 2.3.3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 11:46 AM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone figured out how to lock down an ePMP radio so it can not be accessed from the Internet? In bridged mode this is not a problem since the Radio can be configured for a private IP. As soon as NAT is enabled and a public IP is used on the radio the management interface is exposed. We got Cambium to implement a secondary IP for management but the radio still responds on the Public side of the NAT. Could this just be an oversight on their part? Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won’t tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
They are starting to experiment with monthly subscriptions to movie theaters. Still doesn’t address the issue that when streaming at home you don’t have to pay for each person in the family. From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Does that mean that the majority of movies in the future will not be worth the price of admission? AKA - I'm willing to spend a few bucks for the 2/4/6 of us to watch, but not willing to spend $10 each for it -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 6:38 AM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote: Same here, hate to say it, this is the way movies should go, I understand paying a premium to movie theaters, but a bet as time goes on we will see that more and more, direct to streaming. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Watched it off Google Play. 10/10 did lol Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 10:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: too late for sprint, att, vzw, and tmo - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies. I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why. They just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking. They probably need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since they don’t produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at $10. From: Mark Radabaugh via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present. The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC? $100, $100, $100, $50, $100. When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling and investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and ensures they stay relevant. The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia, ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries. The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a number of political battles. Mark On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Wonder what the play is there. How long will gas prices stay this low? And how low will they go? Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now. Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts. Someone will blink. I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months. --bppart {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yep: http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures? From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Get a few 55 gallon drums. That's what we did around 2006. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not have a shelf life. From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here... Gas at 1.87 a gallon today Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: As long as they leave my shrubbery alone. Jaime Solorza On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think we still have a citadel or two, don’t we? From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
I wonder how many times they got cussed out today so far? On Dec 26, 2014 11:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
I'm sure any kid would be proud to be on a 4th place meth team! From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jay Weekley via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:51 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
That can't be right; they all have teeth! -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
[AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK
Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? Thanks — Sent from Mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
I may actually buy the paper for the next day or two to see what they do to make it right. joseph marsh via Af wrote: I wonder how many times they got cussed out today so far? On Dec 26, 2014 11:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
If youre number 4 in meth production thats pretty good, not breaking bad good, but still, you have to have a pretty good recipe and cooking skills On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That can't be right; they all have teeth! -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK
It's a known issue. I think the problem is fragmented packets, but don't quote me on that. It's fixed in 13.2, but that's only available on 430/450 PMP platforms. I don't think it is on 13.1.2,. which (I think) is the last release for FSK. Too bad, because there are several little niggling functional issues that would be nice to have fixed (like this one). -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 10:13 AM, timothy steele via Af wrote: Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? Thanks — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK
Is LAN IP 192.168.100.x? From: timothy steele via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? Thanks — Sent from Mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK
The best way we found to combat this issue was set up the SM in bridged mode and provide the customer with a PPPoE connection. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is LAN IP 192.168.100.x? *From:* timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? Thanks — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
Netflow. On 12/26/2014 11:01 AM, Wireless Admin via Af wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I�m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
I didn’t get past the headline. Chris Wright Velociter Wirelesshttp://www.velociter.net/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 8:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review That was extremely difficult for me to read... -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: DPRK Will Not Tolerate Human Rights Racket of US and Its Allies The National Defence Commission of the DPRK issued the following statement on November 23: We have already seriously warned of the catastrophic consequences to be entailed by the reckless anti-DPRK human rights racket kicked up by the US and it followers. This warning was aimed to help cool their heads overheated by confrontation and hostile policy, though belatedly, and refrain from committing another anachronistic criminal act of challenging justice after judging the gravity of the situation with reason. This measure taken by us aroused deep sympathy of the public at home and abroad and various righteous and upright countries made every possible effort to put the situation under control while voicing opposition to the US-orchestrated human rights racket against the DPRK. We feel sincerely thankful for this and will always remember it. However, the US, steeped in brigandish bad habit, finally perpetrated such reckless action as fabricating the anti-DPRK resolution on human rights at the UN by manipulating riff-raffs bereft of elementary view and principle, instead of thinking twice. The US let the EU and Japan draft the resolution and UN member states blindly following and obeying it voted for it. This hideous charade staged in the international arena is a shameless, politically-motivated farce to suppress justice with injustice and cover truth with lies and the height of impudent burlesque to deceive the world people. What happened there is lashing our service personnel and people into great fury and their determination to make retaliation against this is running high. The US and its followers are now unable to escape merciless punishment for daring impair the prestige of the DPRK and foolishly trying to bring down the socialist system, the cradle of our people. The US and its followers adopted the extremely unreasonable resolution on human rights against the DPRK and, not content with this, continue behaving impudently as if they had put it in an awkward position. The NDC of the DPRK solemnly declares the following principled stand in this regard: Firstly, our army and people categorically deny and reject the resolution on human rights fabricated by the US and its allies by abusing UN. We have never recognized any resolution worked out by the US-led undesirable hostile forces to encroach upon our sovereignty and vital rights. The same is the case with the present resolution. This is because the present resolution is a fabrication made on the basis of misinformation provided by a handful of human scum who fled the country after committing unpardonable crimes before our country and its people and abandoning their native places and parents and wives and children. It is also because the resolution is a product of political fraud as it was railroaded through highhanded and arbitrary practices, allurement and bribery by hostile forces including the US, without expression of the free will of UN member states that sympathize with justice and value conscience. Worse still, the resolution was adopted under the manipulation of the US which has sought the infringement upon our sovereignty in violation of the UN Charter which considers respect for the sovereignty of all countries and non-interference in their internal affairs as a basic principle. This resolution may work on those poor guys who throw away human dignity like a pair of old shoes, steeped in sycophancy and submission. But it can never work on the DPRK, highly dignified with independence and demonstrating its might with self-defence and self-reliance. The US and Japan are the worst human rights abusers as they have mercilessly trampled down the peoples' rights to exist and live and develop and took countless human lives in Korea and other parts of the world for centuries. And such riff-raffs as the Park Geun Hye group of south Korea kowtowing to them joined them in sponsoring the above-said resolution reminiscent of a thief crying Stop the thief! This cannot but be a tragicomedy unprecedented in history. Our army and people urge the Obama administration to make a formal apology by bending its knees before us for its crimes. This stand of ours is a warning served to Japan and riff-raffs of the EU as well as the Park Geun Hye group that they can also never go scot-free. This stand of the DPRK is, at the same time, a warning served to the UN to make haste to take a fair measure to put the situation under control,
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
Is there a low end unit that can do this? Any Idea what price range? Steve B _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won't tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn't know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. From: Josh Luthman mailto:af@afmug.com via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I'm talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
This isn't exactly what I had in mind but using a router with display would really help the customer understand the current state of their connection. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won't tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn't know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. From: Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I'm talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Ghana
j...@spitwspots.com On December 26, 2014 4:28:29 AM AKST, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What's your email address? Since the list change this is unlike any common sort of email list software, hiding all the senders... On Dec 26, 2014 12:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How did you get involved in this? -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I guess that can format the reports on these On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a low end unit that can do this? Any Idea what price range? Steve B -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won’t tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint
in other city they'd fire the editor... - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley via Af To: Animal Farm Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
Re: [AFMUG] OT: This DC-10 is now a restaurant
That's sweet! On Friday, December 26, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Near the Accra airport.
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage? Sorry for the question but I don't have any experience with this system. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I guess that can format the reports on these On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9Jet UR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a low end unit that can do this? Any Idea what price range? Steve B _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won't tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn't know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. From: Josh mailto:af@afmug.com Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I'm talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don’t know if you’re working on the same unit we had but here are some notes from my test efforts: - Numbers on the board are as follows: mtk-0db-35i-102 P/N 4010-2590 - MMCX connectors - Uses standard 802.3af power supply - The default IP is 192.168.0.254 on the lan interface, default login is admin , admin - Since the Greenpacket antenna is v/h not dual slant, I removed the radio from it’s factory case and installed it in a generic case for use with an external antenna (MARS panel). - This device does not perform properly. I’ll replace it with PMP320. No reason to continue to spend time on this. Steve B -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip Rankin via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 1:22 PM *To:* af *Subject:* [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177 I have a couple of Greenpacket wixs-177 -- 3.65 Ghz Wimax cpe units that I bought cheap and I can't get access due to not knowing/having the username and password. They are not default. Does anyone have an idea on how to do a hardware/firmware rest on these units back to default config? I don't find much documentation on the interweb for these units. -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
yes, with the maintenance contract you can get as detailed as you want without you can only do the source/dest IP/port but not identification of the traffic type If you have it at a POP just create a policy (in and out) specific to the monitored customer and make sure those policies are logging all traffic. I believe the 60 series does not have internal storage, the higher series do. but you can send to syslog and one of the open source ones, i dont recall which, has fortigate specific reporting Its pretty slick, especially for office environments, the generic cloud reporting keeps customers happy On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage? Sorry for the question but I don’t have any experience with this system. Steve B. -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I guess that can format the reports on these On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a low end unit that can do this? Any Idea what price range? Steve B -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won’t tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint
That’s the problem, newspapers have probably fired all the editors to save money. We don’t need no stinkin’ editors. From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 1:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint in other city they'd fire the editor... - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley via Af To: Animal Farm Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interesting misprint Poor kids. Yes, this is our local paper from Wednesday. Far from their first mistake but possibly one of the worst.
Re: [AFMUG] Photos form Accra, Ghana
Omni at the top =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That perfectly good tower seems to only have one backhaul on it?!?! Time to fill it up Eric! Sean On Friday, December 26, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Attached JPGs
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
This is a sample base report from the one at my house, I dont have a maintenance contract and its old hardware and locked in old firmware so little of it works for the reporting. but this is the default cloud report. Our contract customers who choose to maintain their maintenance agreements can do alot more, like AD integration, all that good stuff. We have done managed office firewalls with these, but normally we just try to get the customer under a managed services contract. We have dropped them in on a couple residential customers networks long enough to pull reports, but its a risk to have money at a residence that is already abusing the system On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:17 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: yes, with the maintenance contract you can get as detailed as you want without you can only do the source/dest IP/port but not identification of the traffic type If you have it at a POP just create a policy (in and out) specific to the monitored customer and make sure those policies are logging all traffic. I believe the 60 series does not have internal storage, the higher series do. but you can send to syslog and one of the open source ones, i dont recall which, has fortigate specific reporting Its pretty slick, especially for office environments, the generic cloud reporting keeps customers happy On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage? Sorry for the question but I don’t have any experience with this system. Steve B. -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I guess that can format the reports on these On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a low end unit that can do this? Any Idea what price range? Steve B -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won’t tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
On 12/26/14 11:14 AM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! Want another one (includes everything wimax related)? It all works, I'm just looking to get out of that market. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint
On 12/26/14 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: That’s the problem, newspapers have probably fired all the editors to save money. We don’t need no stinkin’ editors. Who needs editors when spell check works for free? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
Hello Seth, Email me. wireless...@gmail.com. I'm Phil On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/26/14 11:14 AM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! Want another one (includes everything wimax related)? It all works, I'm just looking to get out of that market. ~Seth -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
[AFMUG] Mikrotik
I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
Want another one? Mark On 12/26/14 2:14 PM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK
Thanks guys LAN IP on our SMs are 172.16.x.x not 192.168.x.x — Sent from Mailbox On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is LAN IP 192.168.100.x? From: timothy steele via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Micro cell with NAT mode FSK Just ran into a ATT microcell that would not work with the SM in NAT mode routers WAN was on a DMZ IP anyone else run into this? Thanks — Sent from Mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
I would see if you can find any use NETEQ's — Sent from Mailbox On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:26 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is a sample base report from the one at my house, I dont have a maintenance contract and its old hardware and locked in old firmware so little of it works for the reporting. but this is the default cloud report. Our contract customers who choose to maintain their maintenance agreements can do alot more, like AD integration, all that good stuff. We have done managed office firewalls with these, but normally we just try to get the customer under a managed services contract. We have dropped them in on a couple residential customers networks long enough to pull reports, but its a risk to have money at a residence that is already abusing the system On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:17 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: yes, with the maintenance contract you can get as detailed as you want without you can only do the source/dest IP/port but not identification of the traffic type If you have it at a POP just create a policy (in and out) specific to the monitored customer and make sure those policies are logging all traffic. I believe the 60 series does not have internal storage, the higher series do. but you can send to syslog and one of the open source ones, i dont recall which, has fortigate specific reporting Its pretty slick, especially for office environments, the generic cloud reporting keeps customers happy On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does FortiOS provide detailed report on Internet usage? Sorry for the question but I don’t have any experience with this system. Steve B. -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report we are looking at putting 60d and 90d in as our site/POP routers. It will give us more visibility on the network. It does require a service contract for advanced features and reporting. There are a couple syslog servers I guess that can format the reports on these On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.avfirewalls.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAq_SkBRC3jLvJ1IPt2eIBEiQASUZy1z9JetUR94rPQ3lbbwki727bo9hzSXDX33upLwc2LkEaAiBm8P8HAQ On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a low end unit that can do this? Any Idea what price range? Steve B -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 12:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report A Fortigate will do that. you can even cobble it down to showing what user is logged in and what theyre doing On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You could put in one of the Mikrotik routers that have the LCD and lock it to displaying the WAN side bandwidth graph. It won’t tell them what is using all the bandwidth, but they can certainly go around shutting stuff off to see what is causing the usage. Like oh, it went down when I shut off the satellite TV receiver, I didn’t know that used the Internet. Or look, it goes up whenever my daughter uses Facetime, that uses the Internet? Or we all clicked to upgrade our iOS versions and the graph has been pegged for the last day, meanwhile my Xbox games are lagging. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 11:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Powercode does bits down to the minute. If you want more detailed you'll probably need ntop or Procera. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 12:01 PM, Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Do a traceroute and see where it goes off the rails. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
Another greenpacket? Depends on price and whether you have passwords. Let's go off list. wireless...@gmail.com On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Want another one? Mark On 12/26/14 2:14 PM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
BTW, everyone. I was able to contact the seller for my Greenpackets and he gave me the passwords. Thanks for looking. Would be nice to know if there is some sort of hardware reset on them, though. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Philip Rankin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Another greenpacket? Depends on price and whether you have passwords. Let's go off list. wireless...@gmail.com On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Want another one? Mark On 12/26/14 2:14 PM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
I don't understand the reasons for configuration for the 2 other networks (load balancing/redundancy between 3?) But this seems correct for your current network. Try tracer out as Bill said. On Dec 26, 2014 2:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Swift fox added that a while back and then emailed them back to see if they could help On Dec 26, 2014 2:30 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't understand the reasons for configuration for the 2 other networks (load balancing/redundancy between 3?) But this seems correct for your current network. Try tracer out as Bill said. On Dec 26, 2014 2:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Looks like your default route is using the wrong IP, should it not be pointing to the Charter connection? On 12/26/2014 02:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
Never mind, just labelled wrong. I agree, just do a traceroute, see where it dies.. you should be able to pinpoint it pretty quickly. On 12/26/2014 02:33 PM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote: Looks like your default route is using the wrong IP, should it not be pointing to the Charter connection? On 12/26/2014 02:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
We have a ubee modem (cable) from charter. I can see it via static ip locally but not from outside if the ubee modem On Dec 26, 2014 2:35 PM, Simon Westlake via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Never mind, just labelled wrong. I agree, just do a traceroute, see where it dies.. you should be able to pinpoint it pretty quickly. On 12/26/2014 02:33 PM, Simon Westlake via Af wrote: Looks like your default route is using the wrong IP, should it not be pointing to the Charter connection? On 12/26/2014 02:24 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: On Dec 26, 2014 2:12 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Screen shot? On Dec 26, 2014 2:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
[AFMUG] I never check FB
So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
OK, I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x IP common to cable modem networks. Don't know US providers that we'll.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet and swiftfox done the initial config On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: OK, I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x IP common to cable modem networks. Don't know US providers that we'll.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
I'm not a professional on mikrotik but. I'm tring to learn on my own but been messing with this thing since last weekend so I turn to afmug for help On Dec 26, 2014 2:54 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet and swiftfox done the initial config On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: OK, I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x IP common to cable modem networks. Don't know US providers that we'll.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
I'll try the trace route On Dec 26, 2014 2:19 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do a traceroute and see where it goes off the rails. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:11 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: Ip-routes says everything is reachable On Dec 26, 2014 2:05 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Need to go to ip routes and add a default one using your default gateway. On Dec 26, 2014 1:59 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a Mikrotik on charter network and I have typed in the static ip gateway and DNS. When I go to new terminal and ping. Google DNS. I get no route to host What am I missing. I know. Its something small and simple
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
If they did some strange setting for the fail-over, you may want to reset the router to defaults and start from anew, it would likely be easier than learning router troubleshooting on-site On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet and swiftfox done the initial config On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: OK, I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x IP common to cable modem networks. Don't know US providers that we'll.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
I'm playing with it in my office and do it when I'm bored On Dec 26, 2014 3:00 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If they did some strange setting for the fail-over, you may want to reset the router to defaults and start from anew, it would likely be easier than learning router troubleshooting on-site On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This was on a att network. But swapped it out to a bigger one and I'm using this one for a new site so I haven't changed the labels yet and swiftfox done the initial config On Dec 26, 2014 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: OK, I was wondering why it was labeled AT T1 but had a 24.x IP common to cable modem networks. Don't know US providers that we'll.
[AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
Ya I talked to Doug yesterday. Still chugging along :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 26, 2014 3:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
I never log into FB either. I've never created an account; kind solves several problems at one time. Don't know what happened to Doug. Maybe that little scare he had a couple years ago caused him to change religion -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
Use all you want, he'll bill ya for it. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 26, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say Happy Birthday Doug if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
Yeah, I'm never logged into FB. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 3:22:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB I never log into FB either. I've never created an account; kind solves several problems at one time. Don't know what happened to Doug. Maybe that little scare he had a couple years ago caused him to change religion -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
I think it's wireless in general. It consumes you. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 26, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)
Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
Can you go on a vacation and Enjoy it? Or more specifically, go on a vacation and do nothing? I can handle sitting on a beach for all of about 15 minutes, then I'm ready to go do something, Anything. I think that lends itself to personality. In my case, it's 'I'm paying how much per day for this cruise/hotel? By Golly I'm going to get as much as I can out of it, I can sit around at home' On 12/26/2014 3:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af wrote: Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)
Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
Yeah, some people talk about going to the middle of nowhere and unplugging... It's not for everyone. I think people like that are lazy. Damn it, there's work to be done somewhere! :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 3:32:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life Can you go on a vacation and Enjoy it? Or more specifically, go on a vacation and do nothing? I can handle sitting on a beach for all of about 15 minutes, then I'm ready to go do something, Anything. I think that lends itself to personality. In my case, it's 'I'm paying how much per day for this cruise/hotel? By Golly I'm going to get as much as I can out of it, I can sit around at home' On 12/26/2014 3:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af wrote: Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)
Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
I was blown away with the continued number of emails on this list over the past three days. I'll check emails, but I'm not doing a damn thing work related unless a few hundred subs are offline. If I worked any more than I already do I'd be divorced and my kids wouldn't know my name. On December 26, 2014 12:19:03 PM AKST, Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
Hard to say. I get bored sooo freeking easy it drives me crazy. I have a very conventional life. Married at 22. 8 kids. Grandparents now. Wife always did the wife thing. I always did the work thing. But I am jaded when it comes to stimulating the little gray cells. I would guess many on this list are a bit on the restless side as well. Of all the many positive (or negative) attributes a person might have (smart, hard worker, honest, inventive, etc etc) the only one that correlates with being successful in business is ambition. And ambitious folks are restless. Talking Soy restless, not Estoy restless. From: Colin Stanners via Af Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)
Re: [AFMUG] My new gloves s
I didn't see the ellipses at first. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 2:56:58 PM Subject: [AFMUG] My new gloves s Warm and flexible..wife just bought them for me Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
I asked about something similar a while back. Someone (maybe Mark in Florida) showed me pretty much exactly what I was looking for. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:01:53 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
[AFMUG] Lease options
Saw the ad from Ritalia a couple weeks back, and it may suit our purposes to get some extra equipment in the air sooner than our more typical pay-from-cash-flow model. Has anyone worked with these folks or have other leasing companies that they like better? What is the metric on what we should be expecting to pay for this service ($x MRC versus $y equipment purchase cost)? -- -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
This list and email is about all for me Jaime Solorza On Dec 26, 2014 2:25 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, I'm never logged into FB. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 3:22:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB I never log into FB either. I've never created an account; kind solves several problems at one time. Don't know what happened to Doug. Maybe that little scare he had a couple years ago caused him to change religion -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] Lease options
Roughly 10% finance charges. I've worked with LCA for a while. Just look for the basics like $1 buyout, good record with vendors and such. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Saw the ad from Ritalia a couple weeks back, and it may suit our purposes to get some extra equipment in the air sooner than our more typical pay-from-cash-flow model. Has anyone worked with these folks or have other leasing companies that they like better? What is the metric on what we should be expecting to pay for this service ($x MRC versus $y equipment purchase cost)? -- -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
[AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
[AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven't seen if for a while. A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park. We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera. A little good will between us, them, and the community. So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn't suck? It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously. I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don't know that. Are these available POE? PC Blaze Broadband
Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
What's wrong with using a Ubnt AirCam? http://inxwireless.com/rain/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven’t seen if for a while. A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park. We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera. A little good will between us, them, and the community. So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn’t suck? It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously. I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don’t know that. Are these available POE? PC Blaze Broadband
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is queued to a random speed each time they pull the files. Or would that be rude? On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net http://speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net http://speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB
Yeah, I still talk to him. He felt that he had to go unlimited due to increasing competition in his area. Never say never I guess. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This list and email is about all for me Jaime Solorza On Dec 26, 2014 2:25 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, I'm never logged into FB. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 3:22:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] I never check FB I never log into FB either. I've never created an account; kind solves several problems at one time. Don't know what happened to Doug. Maybe that little scare he had a couple years ago caused him to change religion -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: So, for some reason, I actually logged into FB today. (Good thing I did as it reminded me my sister turns 60 on the first.) And it also showed me that Doug Clark recently had a birthday. I would say “Happy Birthday Doug” if he was still hanging around with the rest of us. So, then I got to thinking about good old Doug. Is he still doing his thang?? Went to his web site. Yep, looks like someone is still chugging along up there. But what is this I see!!! Unlimited usage for the same price??? Holy Crap!
Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
Josh, is that your own webpage construction or are you farming that out to someone somehow? Phil On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What's wrong with using a Ubnt AirCam? http://inxwireless.com/rain/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven’t seen if for a while. A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park. We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera. A little good will between us, them, and the community. So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn’t suck? It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously. I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don’t know that. Are these available POE? PC Blaze Broadband -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
Most every consumer router has the ability to turn on logging. It will only show them inbound and outbound IP addresses though. You have to cross reference the IP with Google to find out what it is. It definitely leaves something to be desired. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I asked about something similar a while back. Someone (maybe Mark in Florida) showed me pretty much exactly what I was looking for. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 11:01:53 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations
What kind of distance are you talking about? Critical issue if you wanted IR, because there are serious limitations on how far you will get decent video with IR (no greater than 100', and that might be a stretch). But the distance would dictate what kind of magnification/lenses are required. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/26/2014 2:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: This question comes up on the list periodically but I haven�t seen if for a while. A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his commercial business park. We might install and provide local bandwidth for free if they buy the camera. A little good will between us, them, and the community. So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much money are we talking to get something that doesn�t suck? It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution. Good low light would be nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously. I assume a small heater is required to avoid condensation but I don�t know that. Are these available POE? PC Blaze Broadband
Re: [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life
I get bored doing nothing. My vacations are planned out in advance in great detail so as to always stay busy. I still check emails. I answer my phone pretty much anytime, unless it is an out of state area code (too many telemarketers). I am consumed by my work but I still find time for family. However, I am pretty much always sitting on this laptop at home. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hard to say. I get bored sooo freeking easy it drives me crazy. I have a very conventional life. Married at 22. 8 kids. Grandparents now. Wife always did the wife thing. I always did the work thing. But I am jaded when it comes to stimulating the little gray cells. I would guess many on this list are a bit on the restless side as well. Of all the many positive (or negative) attributes a person might have (smart, hard worker, honest, inventive, etc etc) the only one that correlates with being successful in business is ambition. And ambitious folks are restless. Talking Soy restless, not Estoy restless. *From:* Colin Stanners via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2014 2:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT? Work-as-life Less than an hour ago I went on a rare FB visit and, seeing what others were doing, posted a thought: Today I will not be doing any work, paid or volunteer projects, other than house cleaning. I don't know this feeling. Now it seems that may have been a lie as I'm helping troubleshoot router issues a country away and sorting a big Monoprice order of A/V gear I received for a client. It seems a number of the more involved people on this list live in the same manner: their job/projects are their life... I have also lived and struggled with roommates who spent entire months doing nothing. Is that difference in people based more on personality or the environment? Does it get easier or more difficult as you get older? (from physical AF I noticed many here were in their 40s-50s)
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
Waste of your time IMO. Not very fun. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is queued to a random speed each time they pull the files. Or would that be rude? On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
Dropping all their traffic sounds like a more fun solution. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Waste of your time IMO. Not very fun. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is queued to a random speed each time they pull the files. Or would that be rude? On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report
I don't care where it goes. I wanted to know what device was using it. Knowing that 15 megabit went to Bill's hosting company is fairly useless. Knowing that Junior's laptop is moving 15 megs, though, is very useful. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 4:44:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Most every consumer router has the ability to turn on logging. It will only show them inbound and outbound IP addresses though. You have to cross reference the IP with Google to find out what it is. It definitely leaves something to be desired. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I asked about something similar a while back. Someone (maybe Mark in Florida) showed me pretty much exactly what I was looking for. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Wireless Admin via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 11:01:53 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Customer - Detailed Usage Report Can anyone suggest a system that would allow an ISP to provide a customer a detailed report on Internet usage. I’m talking about the ability to show a customer, on usage based billing, what caused the consumption. My thought would be to route the customers IP through a specialized process for a limited period of time so details could be collected. A sort of debug mode. Steve B
Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test
Dropping it is no fun. Low and varying limits would be. If you can script to route them in a circle, that'd be fun too. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 4:52:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Someone automated their Speed test Dropping all their traffic sounds like a more fun solution. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Waste of your time IMO. Not very fun. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote I guess what I should do is set them up so that their IP Address is queued to a random speed each time they pull the files. Or would that be rude? On 12/26/2014 4:28 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: blockquote It's good to know there are still rude people out there. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for the heads up! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote Been trying to track down a 20 second 400mb spike in outbound traffic that has been happening every 10 minutes all day. Finally tracked it down to my Speedtest.net server. Someone automated pulling the test files via HTTP. It shows up in my server logs, but not in the speedtest.net reports. They simultaneously pull 8 copies of all 10 test .jpg files. I've blocked their IP Address, automating it like that just seems a little rude. Just wanted to give anyone else running a speedtest.net server a heads up. Nate /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote