[AFMUG] GPS satellite problem emerges as Air Force plans to launch another system - FierceGovernmentIT
http://www.fiercegovernmentit.com/story/gps-satellite-problem-emerges-air-force-plans-launch-another-system/2015-03-26 Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Rf armor - 2ft dish armor
Is there any reason to use the shield kits just for the radome shielding and not the radio housing shielding? I was going to use PTP650's for the radios. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: None of those 3 have the Rocket mounting clips in the back so... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Does anyone know what all manufactures of 2 foot dishes that the RF armor shielding works on? UBNT - Yes Laird - ??? ARC - ??? Hana - Can't find any information on compatibility. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
It is, anything certified under 15.247 can only only be sold until June
2016, so I'm not sure if anyone is really bothering with it for new stuff
at this point... Mimosa didn't, for example.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:33 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Is Part 15.247 cert still available up to June 2nd?
On 3/26/2015 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would seem they have an incentive to get it through FCC approval
before June 2.
*From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net
wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450
gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800
www.velociter.net
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
Ya... Gave her a refund... But she paid annually. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:20 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: How horrible! clearly she deserved a refund... :P On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I had a lady complain she was only getting 9.8 and 1.85 on a 10x2 connection. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:09 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Adam, Had a guy complain because his speed test was 24.5mbps on a 25mbps plan. In his mind the extra 0.5 mbps is what was causing his Apple TV to buffer. Took forever to convince him his Apple TV was buffering because it was on the other side of the house from the wireless router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:57:19 PM, you wrote: AM This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was AM thinkingalong similar lines. AM Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is theproblem.ￜ AM On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: AM Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or AM because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or AM because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. AM ￜ AM A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country AM who doesnￜt even know how to turn on a computer has a new AM girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining AM that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers.ￜ AM Just one of many complaints about having to move out from AM town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. AM ￜ AM Then there are the people who are complaining about AM slowness that wonￜt be fixed by faster Internet.ￜ Like the AM trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a AM ￜload boardￜ site to find other loads he can pick up along AM the way.ￜ Itￜs a big database and itￜs thinking.ￜ Faster AM Internet is not going to fix that. AM ￜ AM Or you could have a problem that youￜre unaware of.ￜ It AM might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and AM going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is.ￜ AM Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV AM which is telling them their Internet is too slow?ￜ Are they AM having DNS lookup problems?ￜ Do they have crappy, dying AM routers or WiFi problems?ￜ Maybe an Ethernet surge protector AM partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors?ￜ AM Iￜve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how AM slow, and they say ￜIￜve been waiting 2 days for Google to AM loadￜ.ￜ Thatￜs like Monty Python and the parrot thatￜs just AM sleeping, or pining for the fjords. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM From:Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. AM ￜ AM I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are wellfed and barely eating. AM ￜ AM I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go AM out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower AM usage increases significantly just because of me. AM ￜ AM You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM - Original Message - AM From:Jerry Richardson AM To:af@afmug.com AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM Lift your limiters for anight and see AM what the network does.ￜ That will giveyou an AM idea of where you need to upgrade AM ￜ AM You may have a choke pointbetween the AM AP?s and the Internet you aren?t awareof so AM the user traffic is being limited but not in AM the way you might think. AM ￜ AM Jerry R AM ￜ AM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've got a handful of customers that are AM requesting higher speeds. We currently offer AM 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come AM close to using that. I've got three
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
He seems more like a giant floating head to me... only different.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
lol ok. Is Chairman Wheeler the giant floating head or the little man
behind the curtain?
On 3/26/2015 9:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I believe so. Of course you only get a year after that to sell the
product. Let’s hope the group presenting the consensus proposal to OET
tomorrow has a good meeting.
I’m imagining the scene where Dorothy and her friends plead their case
before the Great and Powerful Oz.
*From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:33 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Is Part 15.247 cert still available up to June 2nd?
On 3/26/2015 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would seem they have an incentive to get it through FCC approval
before June 2.
*From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net
wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450
gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800
www.velociter.net
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Pretty sure Matt has said that they will go for 15.247/ISM 5.7 on the
450i. Another year is another year.
On 3/26/2015 9:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
It is, anything certified under 15.247 can only only be sold until
June 2016, so I'm not sure if anyone is really bothering with it for
new stuff at this point... Mimosa didn't, for example.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:33 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Is Part 15.247 cert still available up to June 2nd?
On 3/26/2015 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would seem they have an incentive to get it through FCC
approval before June 2.
*From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett
af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide
j...@velociter.net mailto:j...@velociter.net wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is
it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7
freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221 tel:209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800 tel:209-838-1800
www.velociter.net http://www.velociter.net/
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
tel:419.837.5015%20x%201021
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
How horrible! clearly she deserved a refund... :P On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I had a lady complain she was only getting 9.8 and 1.85 on a 10x2 connection. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:09 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Adam, Had a guy complain because his speed test was 24.5mbps on a 25mbps plan. In his mind the extra 0.5 mbps is what was causing his Apple TV to buffer. Took forever to convince him his Apple TV was buffering because it was on the other side of the house from the wireless router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:57:19 PM, you wrote: AM This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was AM thinkingalong similar lines. AM Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is theproblem.ￜ AM On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: AM Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or AM because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or AM because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. AM ￜ AM A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country AM who doesnￜt even know how to turn on a computer has a new AM girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining AM that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers.ￜ AM Just one of many complaints about having to move out from AM town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. AM ￜ AM Then there are the people who are complaining about AM slowness that wonￜt be fixed by faster Internet.ￜ Like the AM trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a AM ￜload boardￜ site to find other loads he can pick up along AM the way.ￜ Itￜs a big database and itￜs thinking.ￜ Faster AM Internet is not going to fix that. AM ￜ AM Or you could have a problem that youￜre unaware of.ￜ It AM might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and AM going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is.ￜ AM Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV AM which is telling them their Internet is too slow?ￜ Are they AM having DNS lookup problems?ￜ Do they have crappy, dying AM routers or WiFi problems?ￜ Maybe an Ethernet surge protector AM partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors?ￜ AM Iￜve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how AM slow, and they say ￜIￜve been waiting 2 days for Google to AM loadￜ.ￜ Thatￜs like Monty Python and the parrot thatￜs just AM sleeping, or pining for the fjords. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM From:Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. AM ￜ AM I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are wellfed and barely eating. AM ￜ AM I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go AM out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower AM usage increases significantly just because of me. AM ￜ AM You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM - Original Message - AM From:Jerry Richardson AM To:af@afmug.com AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM Lift your limiters for anight and see AM what the network does.ￜ That will giveyou an AM idea of where you need to upgrade AM ￜ AM You may have a choke pointbetween the AM AP?s and the Internet you aren?t awareof so AM the user traffic is being limited but not in AM the way you might think. AM ￜ AM Jerry R AM ￜ AM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've got a handful of customers that are AM requesting higher speeds. We currently offer AM 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come AM close to using that. I've got three towers AM that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute AM average, much less individual customers. AM ￜ AM I've got three customers in particular AM that hardly ever use the
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
Sure wish I was. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 11:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: You both forgot the “j/k” at the end. Oh crap, you’re not kidding, are you? *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:17 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions I had a lady complain she was only getting 9.8 and 1.85 on a 10x2 connection. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:09 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Adam, Had a guy complain because his speed test was 24.5mbps on a 25mbps plan. In his mind the extra 0.5 mbps is what was causing his Apple TV to buffer. Took forever to convince him his Apple TV was buffering because it was on the other side of the house from the wireless router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:57:19 PM, you wrote: AM This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was AM thinkingalong similar lines. AM Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is theproblem.ï¿œ AM On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: AM Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or AM because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or AM because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. AM ï¿œ AM A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country AM who doesnï¿œt even know how to turn on a computer has a new AM girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining AM that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers.ï¿œ AM Just one of many complaints about having to move out from AM town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. AM ï¿œ AM Then there are the people who are complaining about AM slowness that wonï¿œt be fixed by faster Internet.ï¿œ Like the AM trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a AM ï¿œload boardï¿œ site to find other loads he can pick up along AM the way.ï¿œ Itï¿œs a big database and itï¿œs thinking.ï¿œ Faster AM Internet is not going to fix that. AM ï¿œ AM Or you could have a problem that youï¿œre unaware of.ï¿œ It AM might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and AM going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is.ï¿œ AM Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV AM which is telling them their Internet is too slow?ï¿œ Are they AM having DNS lookup problems?ï¿œ Do they have crappy, dying AM routers or WiFi problems?ï¿œ Maybe an Ethernet surge protector AM partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors?ï¿œ AM Iï¿œve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how AM slow, and they say ï¿œIï¿œve been waiting 2 days for Google to AM loadï¿œ.ï¿œ Thatï¿œs like Monty Python and the parrot thatï¿œs just AM sleeping, or pining for the fjords. AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM From:Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM AM mailto:to%3...@afmug.com to%3...@afmug.com AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ï¿œ AM I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. AM ï¿œ AM I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are wellfed and barely eating. AM ï¿œ AM I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go AM out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower AM usage increases significantly just because of me. AM ï¿œ AM You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM - Original Message - AM From:Jerry Richardson AM mailto:to%3...@afmug.com to%3...@afmug.com AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ï¿œ AM Lift your limiters for anight and see AM what the network does.ï¿œ That will giveyou an AM idea of where you need to upgrade AM ï¿œ AM You may have a choke pointbetween the AM AP?s and the Internet you aren?t awareof so AM the user traffic is being limited but not in AM the way you might think. AM ï¿œ AM Jerry R AM ï¿œ AM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM AM mailto:to%3...@afmug.com to%3...@afmug.com AM Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ï¿œ AM I've got a handful of customers that are AM requesting higher speeds. We
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
I had a lady complain she was only getting 9.8 and 1.85 on a 10x2 connection. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:09 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Adam, Had a guy complain because his speed test was 24.5mbps on a 25mbps plan. In his mind the extra 0.5 mbps is what was causing his Apple TV to buffer. Took forever to convince him his Apple TV was buffering because it was on the other side of the house from the wireless router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:57:19 PM, you wrote: AM This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was AM thinkingalong similar lines. AM Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is the problem.ￜ AM On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: AM Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or AM because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or AM because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. AM ￜ AM A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country AM who doesnￜt even know how to turn on a computer has a new AM girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining AM that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers.ￜ AM Just one of many complaints about having to move out from AM town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. AM ￜ AM Then there are the people who are complaining about AM slowness that wonￜt be fixed by faster Internet.ￜ Like the AM trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a AM ￜload boardￜ site to find other loads he can pick up along AM the way.ￜ Itￜs a big database and itￜs thinking.ￜ Faster AM Internet is not going to fix that. AM ￜ AM Or you could have a problem that youￜre unaware of.ￜ It AM might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and AM going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is.ￜ AM Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV AM which is telling them their Internet is too slow?ￜ Are they AM having DNS lookup problems?ￜ Do they have crappy, dying AM routers or WiFi problems?ￜ Maybe an Ethernet surge protector AM partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors?ￜ AM Iￜve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how AM slow, and they say ￜIￜve been waiting 2 days for Google to AM loadￜ.ￜ Thatￜs like Monty Python and the parrot thatￜs just AM sleeping, or pining for the fjords. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM From:Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. AM ￜ AM I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are wellfed and barely eating. AM ￜ AM I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go AM out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower AM usage increases significantly just because of me. AM ￜ AM You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM - Original Message - AM From:Jerry Richardson AM To:af@afmug.com AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM Lift your limiters for anight and see AM what the network does.ￜ That will giveyou an AM idea of where you need to upgrade AM ￜ AM You may have a choke pointbetween the AM AP?s and the Internet you aren?t awareof so AM the user traffic is being limited but not in AM the way you might think. AM ￜ AM Jerry R AM ￜ AM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've got a handful of customers that are AM requesting higher speeds. We currently offer AM 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come AM close to using that. I've got three towers AM that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute AM average, much less individual customers. AM ￜ AM I've got three customers in particular AM that hardly ever use the Internet and AM constantly harrang me for higher speeds. AM I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a AM matter of time, but how do you
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
To paraphrase the movie Clerks, This job would be great if it weren't for the customers. -Ty On Mar 26, 2015 9:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Ya... Gave her a refund... But she paid annually. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:20 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: How horrible! clearly she deserved a refund... :P On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I had a lady complain she was only getting 9.8 and 1.85 on a 10x2 connection. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:09 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Adam, Had a guy complain because his speed test was 24.5mbps on a 25mbps plan. In his mind the extra 0.5 mbps is what was causing his Apple TV to buffer. Took forever to convince him his Apple TV was buffering because it was on the other side of the house from the wireless router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:57:19 PM, you wrote: AM This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was AM thinkingalong similar lines. AM Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is theproblem.ￜ AM On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: AM Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or AM because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or AM because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. AM ￜ AM A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country AM who doesnￜt even know how to turn on a computer has a new AM girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining AM that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers.ￜ AM Just one of many complaints about having to move out from AM town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. AM ￜ AM Then there are the people who are complaining about AM slowness that wonￜt be fixed by faster Internet.ￜ Like the AM trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a AM ￜload boardￜ site to find other loads he can pick up along AM the way.ￜ Itￜs a big database and itￜs thinking.ￜ Faster AM Internet is not going to fix that. AM ￜ AM Or you could have a problem that youￜre unaware of.ￜ It AM might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and AM going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is.ￜ AM Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV AM which is telling them their Internet is too slow?ￜ Are they AM having DNS lookup problems?ￜ Do they have crappy, dying AM routers or WiFi problems?ￜ Maybe an Ethernet surge protector AM partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors?ￜ AM Iￜve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how AM slow, and they say ￜIￜve been waiting 2 days for Google to AM loadￜ.ￜ Thatￜs like Monty Python and the parrot thatￜs just AM sleeping, or pining for the fjords. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM From:Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. AM ￜ AM I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are wellfed and barely eating. AM ￜ AM I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go AM out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower AM usage increases significantly just because of me. AM ￜ AM You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM ￜ AM - Original Message - AM From:Jerry Richardson AM To:af@afmug.com AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM Lift your limiters for anight and see AM what the network does.ￜ That will giveyou an AM idea of where you need to upgrade AM ￜ AM You may have a choke pointbetween the AM AP?s and the Internet you aren?t awareof so AM the user traffic is being limited but not in AM the way you might think. AM ￜ AM Jerry R AM ￜ AM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM AM To:af@afmug.com AM Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ￜ AM I've got a handful of customers that are AM requesting higher
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
You both forgot the “j/k” at the end. Oh crap, you’re not kidding, are you? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions I had a lady complain she was only getting 9.8 and 1.85 on a 10x2 connection. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 10:09 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Adam, Had a guy complain because his speed test was 24.5mbps on a 25mbps plan. In his mind the extra 0.5 mbps is what was causing his Apple TV to buffer. Took forever to convince him his Apple TV was buffering because it was on the other side of the house from the wireless router. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:57:19 PM, you wrote: AM This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was AM thinkingalong similar lines. AM Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is the problem.ï¿œ AM On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: AM Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or AM because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or AM because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. AM ï¿œ AM A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country AM who doesnï¿œt even know how to turn on a computer has a new AM girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining AM that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers.ï¿œ AM Just one of many complaints about having to move out from AM town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. AM ï¿œ AM Then there are the people who are complaining about AM slowness that wonï¿œt be fixed by faster Internet.ï¿œ Like the AM trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a AM ï¿œload boardï¿œ site to find other loads he can pick up along AM the way.ï¿œ Itï¿œs a big database and itï¿œs thinking.ï¿œ Faster AM Internet is not going to fix that. AM ï¿œ AM Or you could have a problem that youï¿œre unaware of.ï¿œ It AM might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and AM going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is.ï¿œ AM Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV AM which is telling them their Internet is too slow?ï¿œ Are they AM having DNS lookup problems?ï¿œ Do they have crappy, dying AM routers or WiFi problems?ï¿œ Maybe an Ethernet surge protector AM partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors?ï¿œ AM Iï¿œve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how AM slow, and they say ï¿œIï¿œve been waiting 2 days for Google to AM loadï¿œ.ï¿œ Thatï¿œs like Monty Python and the parrot thatï¿œs just AM sleeping, or pining for the fjords. AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM From:Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM AM mailto:to%3...@afmug.com AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ï¿œ AM I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. AM ï¿œ AM I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are wellfed and barely eating. AM ï¿œ AM I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go AM out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower AM usage increases significantly just because of me. AM ï¿œ AM You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM ï¿œ AM - Original Message - AM From:Jerry Richardson AM mailto:to%3...@afmug.com AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ï¿œ AM Lift your limiters for anight and see AM what the network does.ï¿œ That will giveyou an AM idea of where you need to upgrade AM ï¿œ AM You may have a choke pointbetween the AM AP?s and the Internet you aren?t awareof so AM the user traffic is being limited but not in AM the way you might think. AM ï¿œ AM Jerry R AM ï¿œ AM From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop AM Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM AM mailto:to%3...@afmug.com AM Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions AM ï¿œ AM I've got a handful of customers that are AM requesting higher speeds. We currently offer AM 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come AM close to using that. I've got three towers AM that don't even hit 4Mbps on
Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928)
Has anyone gotten one of these Bison enclosures yet with rails in production that they can share some pics of what theirs looks like with WISP gear in it? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:25 PM, e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: I think for $750-850 I could built a 2.5' wide, 3.5’ deep, 7.5’ height wood framed, cedar shingled, peaked roof wood structure/cabinet, with four feet to stand on concrete blocks... And put a 42U open frame rack inside it. Rack like this: http://www.startech.com/m/Server-Management/Racks/42U-Adjustable-Depth-4-Post-Server-Rack~4POSTRACK42 On March 26, 2015 at 5:20 PM George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I don't think so. Looks like something they've already designed and built before. I asked about changing the dimensions of the 013353. He came back with the 014011 alternative which is pretty much the dimensions I asked for. It isn't twice the material so I can't see why it'd be twice the price. I guess I can ask. On 3/26/2015 3:47 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Is that a custom one? I know they have an engineering fee if you want something they don't currently make, but that only applies to the first unit. On Thursday, March 26, 2015, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: OK, I knew it was going to be a bit more expensive, but I didn't think it'd be double. It's $768. No way the boss is going for that. On 3/25/2015 8:31 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: How much for that taller one, George? -Ty On Mar 25, 2015 6:52 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: FYI, in case anyone is interested. This is the one I think we're going to go with. Still waiting on a final quote. I expect it to be a bit more expensive, but worth it. On 3/22/2015 12:56 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: Looks like the TMB option is designed to mount up to Rohn 25 legs? That's pretty nice. That with the rack rails is even better. But I foresee a problem. If I have the rack full or nearly full (which is very possible), and batteries sitting in the bottom, they're behind all the stuff in the rack and impossible to get to. I'm going to hit them up and see how much it would cost to extend the bottom about 6 for a dedicated battery area. It's not like it has to be a separate compartment or anything special like that. On 3/21/2015 12:41 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Forwarding this per previous post. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Matt Jenkins* m...@smarterbroadband.net Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928) To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com I called Bison Pro Fab. Scott sent me this. Original Message Subject: Bison Profab - Quotation #10928 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:56:54 -0500 From: Scott Taylor stay...@bisonprofab.com To: m...@smarterbroadband.com CC: bplad...@bisonprofab.com Matt, Thank you for the opportunity. Your estimate and drawings are attached. The 013353-TMB is our stock enclosure that we can ship immedaitely. The 013353-EIA will ship in 1- 3 days on small quantities. Please let me know if this will meet your requirements and if there is anything we may do to assist you. Thank You Sir, Scott T. This message contains 3 attachment(s). Don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader? Click this link to download it now for free. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow.
I really like the new force dishes for Epmp and that is exactly what we are doing with then by tying the rest of our sites together which will give some more redundancy and a little bandwidth where needed. On 03/25/2015 01:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Chuck, How much would it cost to make a radome that snaps over the force110 dish? I'd like to have them for light duty backhauls but for CPEs I think it would possibly be cost prohibitive. Right now we're using the subreflector to attach them to the harness, we would need to retain this ability. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:20 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I told them to make a radome with the sub reflector integrated. Will they listen, who knows. On 3/25/2015 10:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is this perhaps a new product opportunity for me? � *From:* Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 backhauls and snow. � I am picketing with a sign that says Radome or go home! On 3/25/2015 11:06 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Wondering if anyone has any feedback on the force 110 and snow. Specifically I am concerned about the dishes not having radomes available and snow sticking to the dish surfaces and causing loss. We don�t have a lot of wet sticky snow but we get it a few times at the beginning of winter and the end. I figure you guys down south of me get a lot more sticky stuff and ice. Any experiences would be helpful. On my larger sites I plan to deploy 2 foot dishes with radomes but I am trying to convince myself I can get by with the forces dishes at some smaller sites. � � Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net http://www.gogebicrange.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list
I had the same initial complaint I have not yet installed any of them somewhat waiting for that to be fixed I can't imagine it would be that big of a bug fix to show the available APs Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:22, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's apparently a bunch of things broken. My complaint was not seeing the APs found after a scan on the monitor wireless page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 1:19 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net wrote: I was going to post to the list to ask a question, but when you say no ap list Are you saying no MAC addresses in the ARP table, because that is what I am seeing. The only ARP entry I see is the radio gateway. My customer devices are not showing in the arp table of the subscriber epmp since I upgraded to 2.4 software release. Gilbert Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Phoenix Internet 602.385.0720 On 3/20/2015 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Are you f$%king serious? Do you guys even make sure the thing compiled before you release it??? What a dumbass bug!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list
I was going to post to the list to ask a question, but when you say no ap list Are you saying no MAC addresses in the ARP table, because that is what I am seeing. The only ARP entry I see is the radio gateway. My customer devices are not showing in the arp table of the subscriber epmp since I upgraded to 2.4 software release. Gilbert Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Phoenix Internet 602.385.0720 On 3/20/2015 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Are you f$%king serious? Do you guys even make sure the thing compiled before you release it??? What a dumbass bug!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer?
We have a pretty decent footprint, but the layout of the roads is what gets us. Farthest drive we have is a little over 45 minutes, but the tower is a hair over 12 miles away. I'm reading up on Knight Rider/Dukes of Hazzard tech to hop the river and save myself a half an hour drive. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? We had a 100 mile radius from our office... so 1.5 hours. Travis On 3/26/2015 9:18 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Just curious how far you are willing to have installers drive to install a customer. I know a lot of you have remote sites but what is the furthest you'd have your people drive to do an install?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list
There's apparently a bunch of things broken. My complaint was not seeing the APs found after a scan on the monitor wireless page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 1:19 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net wrote: I was going to post to the list to ask a question, but when you say no ap list Are you saying no MAC addresses in the ARP table, because that is what I am seeing. The only ARP entry I see is the radio gateway. My customer devices are not showing in the arp table of the subscriber epmp since I upgraded to 2.4 software release. Gilbert Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Phoenix Internet 602.385.0720 On 3/20/2015 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Are you f$%king serious? Do you guys even make sure the thing compiled before you release it??? What a dumbass bug!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Welcome to 1999? :-p
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:26:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Yeah, I finally got it figured out. I think if you dial into the IP it will
only show the master account. But if you hit it via URL it sorts them out
correctly.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
We have that through Powweb.� We have about six web sites on one IP
address.� They are all in subdirectories, and you put a special file in the
root directory to redirect everything.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/25/2015 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I feel a bit snookered.� I purchased hosting from GoDaddy this morning, a
more expensive package.� It said unlimited websites.�
�
That does not mean, it turns out, to be unlimited DNS to individual IPs.� Not
wanting a main page were you select the site you want to go to.� I was
wanting to have DNS direct the person to the webpage for a discrete company and
I wanted to do that for as many domains as I own.�
�
But it appears, unless I have not yet figured it out, that I get one IP for one
main domain.� It allows sub domains but it does not appear to be able to make
it go seamless directly to the sub domains.� This is certainly a weak point
for me.� I can hand hack HTML if� you point me to the correct directory on
the right server but that is about it.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Yeah, well... never had to do much myself personally.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Welcome to 1999? :-p
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:26:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Yeah, I finally got it figured out. I think if you dial into the IP it will
only show the master account. But if you hit it via URL it sorts them out
correctly.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
We have that through Powweb.� We have about six web sites on one IP
address.� They are all in subdirectories, and you put a special file in the
root directory to redirect everything.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/25/2015 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I feel a bit snookered.� I purchased hosting from GoDaddy this morning, a
more expensive package.� It said unlimited websites.�
�
That does not mean, it turns out, to be unlimited DNS to individual IPs.�
Not wanting a main page were you select the site you want to go to.� I was
wanting to have DNS direct the person to the webpage for a discrete company and
I wanted to do that for as many domains as I own.�
�
But it appears, unless I have not yet figured it out, that I get one IP for
one main domain.� It allows sub domains but it does not appear to be able to
make it go seamless directly to the sub domains.� This is certainly a weak
point for me.� I can hand hack HTML if� you point me to the correct
directory on the right server but that is about it.
Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered
Not that I'm aware of. Most of the GPON equipment we have seen requires higher amperage than what CAT5 is really designed for. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The ones I use take about 8 watts. But that is at 12 volts. So pretty high current for CAT 5. *From:* CARL PETERSON cpeter...@portnetworks.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered Does anyone make a POE powered outdoor GPON ONT? My thinking on this would be that it would be much easier to DEMARC the fiber on the outside of the house and then power the ONT via POE like we do for a CSM install. Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS*
Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered
I think all the manufactures units can be powered by the the BBU via a 7 wire cable. We use Zhone and they have a nice little plug in gizmo that we put in the BBU which allows us to run only 2 wires to the outdoor unit, but still get all the BBU statistics. We still have to run two cables, but we usually just run two cat5 cables. We try to keep the BBU within about 10-15 feet of the outdoor unit. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at http://main.acsevents.org/site/TR/RelayForLife/RFLFY12FL?team_id=1030009pg=teamfr_id=37555 -- Thursday, March 26, 2015, 11:53:48 AM, you wrote: cwc The ones I use take about 8 watts.� But that is at 12 cwc volts.� So pretty high current for CAT 5.� cwc � cwc From:CARL PETERSON cwc Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:46 AM cwc To:af@afmug.com cwc Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered cwc � cwc Does anyone make a POE powered outdoor GPON ONT?� My cwc thinking on this would be that it would be much easier to DEMARC cwc the fiber on the outside of the house and then power the ONT via cwc POE like we do for a CSM install.� cwc � cwc Carl Peterson cwc PORT NETWORKS --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
That's what minions are for!
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Yeah, well... never had to do much myself personally.
From: Mike Hammettmailto:af...@ics-il.net
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:04 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Welcome to 1999? :-p
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:26:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Yeah, I finally got it figured out. I think if you dial into the IP it will
only show the master account. But if you hit it via URL it sorts them out
correctly.
From: Bill Princemailto:part15...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
We have that through Powweb.� We have about six web sites on one IP
address.� They are all in subdirectories, and you put a special file in the
root directory to redirect everything.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/25/2015 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I feel a bit snookered.� I purchased hosting from GoDaddy this morning, a
more expensive package.� It said unlimited websites.�
�
That does not mean, it turns out, to be unlimited DNS to individual IPs.� Not
wanting a main page were you select the site you want to go to.� I was
wanting to have DNS direct the person to the webpage for a discrete company and
I wanted to do that for as many domains as I own.�
�
But it appears, unless I have not yet figured it out, that I get one IP for one
main domain.� It allows sub domains but it does not appear to be able to make
it go seamless directly to the sub domains.� This is certainly a weak point
for me.� I can hand hack HTML if� you point me to the correct directory on
the right server but that is about it.
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[AFMUG] OT: 4x4 lighting, electrical, 12VDC
I plan to buy one of these for my van: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RV83UUG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1427401116sr=8-2keywords=120W+light+bardpPl=1dpID=41dBdmTXeqLref=plSrchpi=AC_SY200_QL40 Anyone have a suggestion for a box/enclosure to hold a 12-position DC fuse block and some relays? If you look at the also purchased with section of that amazon URL, there is a basic wiring harness with 12V 40A rated relay. I plan to wire up several new things with relays and panel mounted toggle switches on the dash to turn off loads. These will include the light bar, a small sine wave inverter, USB charger, possibly a few of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EA0ZB7I/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1427401351sr=8-2pi=AC_SY200_QL40keywords=18W+creedpPl=1dpID=51FGS5Tnt4Lref=plSrch
[AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna's on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Do the math, if you build a 180' 65G guyed tower or similar how many years does it take to pay off, at 8000 per year? On March 26, 2015 at 4:27 PM Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide
j...@velociter.net mailto:j...@velociter.net wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the
same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221 tel:209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800 tel:209-838-1800
www.velociter.net http://www.velociter.net/
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
And 5.1 rocks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: 5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
24v works for all of those but the 320SM, I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: It’s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack). The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM . The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries…. 24v “ish” to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity. Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v “ish” battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable, un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
[AFMUG] DirecTV becoming att
Curious question... In a lot of town ATT U verse has to pay franchise fees to the town's just like cable does. When they complete their purchase of DirecTV do they get to stop paying all of those franchise fees? I don't believe satellite TV pays any franchise fees? Curious as I sit here mulling over my lunch... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer?
I'll get right on that. lol - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? I believe simply welding your doors closed and installing a CB and dixie horn will solve all your issues. Thanks TT From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? We have a pretty decent footprint, but the layout of the roads is what gets us. Farthest drive we have is a little over 45 minutes, but the tower is a hair over 12 miles away. I'm reading up on Knight Rider/Dukes of Hazzard tech to hop the river and save myself a half an hour drive. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? We had a 100 mile radius from our office... so 1.5 hours. Travis On 3/26/2015 9:18 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Just curious how far you are willing to have installers drive to install a customer. I know a lot of you have remote sites but what is the furthest you'd have your people drive to do an install?
[AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.nethttp://www.velociter.net/
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
Adam, Do you have some pictures of this you could share please? Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
We're just giving our installers one of these with the inverter attachment. Work pretty well. http://www.goalzero.com/p/151/sherpa-50-power-pack On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Adam, Do you have some pictures of this you could share please? Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net � -- Regards, Brian Meredith Chief Technology Officer / Network Administrator Softcom Internet Communications, Inc. (209) 744-4234
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928)
Ewww. That blows. The smaller one is still a deal. I found a great 18U INDOOR box with glass door and fans for under $300 I like. I built my first one out and am ordering more. To see an outdoor rated one for near that price is incredible even if it is shorter. -Ty On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:51 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: OK, I knew it was going to be a bit more expensive, but I didn't think it'd be double. It's $768. No way the boss is going for that. On 3/25/2015 8:31 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: How much for that taller one, George? -Ty On Mar 25, 2015 6:52 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: FYI, in case anyone is interested. This is the one I think we're going to go with. Still waiting on a final quote. I expect it to be a bit more expensive, but worth it. On 3/22/2015 12:56 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: Looks like the TMB option is designed to mount up to Rohn 25 legs? That's pretty nice. That with the rack rails is even better. But I foresee a problem. If I have the rack full or nearly full (which is very possible), and batteries sitting in the bottom, they're behind all the stuff in the rack and impossible to get to. I'm going to hit them up and see how much it would cost to extend the bottom about 6 for a dedicated battery area. It's not like it has to be a separate compartment or anything special like that. On 3/21/2015 12:41 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Forwarding this per previous post. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Matt Jenkins* m...@smarterbroadband.net Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928) To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com I called Bison Pro Fab. Scott sent me this. Original Message Subject: Bison Profab - Quotation #10928 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:56:54 -0500 From: Scott Taylor stay...@bisonprofab.com To: m...@smarterbroadband.com CC: bplad...@bisonprofab.com Matt, Thank you for the opportunity. Your estimate and drawings are attached. The 013353-TMB is our stock enclosure that we can ship immedaitely. The 013353-EIA will ship in 1- 3 days on small quantities. Please let me know if this will meet your requirements and if there is anything we may do to assist you. Thank You Sir, Scott T. This message contains 3 attachment(s). Don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader? Click this link to download it now for free. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Re: [AFMUG] Cisco assist
If your switch is running IOS, then write erase. If you have VLAN's then delete flash:vlan.dat On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net wrote: On Thu March 26 2015 13:36, Jaime Solorza wrote: How do you resert a Cisco Catalyst 3560=CG to default? Hmmm, simple answer clear config all from an enabled login. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
Here's the spec sheet with part numbers: http://tyconpower.com/products/files/TPS_DC_DC_Converter_Spec_Sheet.pdf Those are the 802.3af models with DC input. There are .3at models alsowhich you need for Telrad CPE btw Adam, The link for the tyconpower product didn�t come through. They make a POE that takes 24v and outputs 48v? Not seeing it on their website *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Bad SSL cert? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 3:22 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Nevermind http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Status-of-5-1Ghz-for-PMP450/td-p/37344 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: And 5.1 rocks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: 5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928)
OK, I knew it was going to be a bit more expensive, but I didn't think it'd be double. It's $768. No way the boss is going for that. On 3/25/2015 8:31 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: How much for that taller one, George? -Ty On Mar 25, 2015 6:52 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: FYI, in case anyone is interested. This is the one I think we're going to go with. Still waiting on a final quote. I expect it to be a bit more expensive, but worth it. On 3/22/2015 12:56 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: Looks like the TMB option is designed to mount up to Rohn 25 legs? That's pretty nice. That with the rack rails is even better. But I foresee a problem. If I have the rack full or nearly full (which is very possible), and batteries sitting in the bottom, they're behind all the stuff in the rack and impossible to get to. I'm going to hit them up and see how much it would cost to extend the bottom about 6 for a dedicated battery area. It's not like it has to be a separate compartment or anything special like that. On 3/21/2015 12:41 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Forwarding this per previous post. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Matt Jenkins* m...@smarterbroadband.net mailto:m...@smarterbroadband.net Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928) To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com I called Bison Pro Fab. Scott sent me this. Original Message Subject: Bison Profab - Quotation #10928 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:56:54 -0500 From: Scott Taylor stay...@bisonprofab.com To: m...@smarterbroadband.com CC: bplad...@bisonprofab.com Matt, Thank you for the opportunity. Your estimate and drawings are attached. The 013353-TMB is our stock enclosure that we can ship immedaitely. The 013353-EIA will ship in 1- 3 days on small quantities. Please let me know if this will meet your requirements and if there is anything we may do to assist you. Thank You Sir, Scott T. This message contains 3 attachment(s). Don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader? Click this link to download it now for free. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
Noit's located at a company I don't work for anymore :) I haven't built any here yet. If you take the AirGateway out of it's plastic housing, remove the bulb from an 18v dewalt flashlight, and then remove some excess plastic from the flashlight bulb housing, you can *just* fit the airgateway guts in there. I also made a rectangular cutout in the plastic flashlight lens for the ethernet ports on the airgateway. Then a drizzle of hot glue to secure everything. The Tycon PoE got epoxied to the side of the flashlight. Airgateway and PoE were wired to the switch so they both turned on when you flipped the switch on. Adam, Do you have some pictures of this you could share please? Paul *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net �
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: And 5.1 rocks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: 5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
Be careful of that antenna Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 3:09 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Noit's located at a company I don't work for anymore :) I haven't built any here yet. If you take the AirGateway out of it's plastic housing, remove the bulb from an 18v dewalt flashlight, and then remove some excess plastic from the flashlight bulb housing, you can *just* fit the airgateway guts in there.� I also made a rectangular cutout in the plastic flashlight lens for the ethernet ports on the airgateway.� Then a drizzle of hot glue to secure everything.� The Tycon PoE got epoxied to the side of the flashlight.� Airgateway and PoE were wired to the switch so they both turned on when you flipped the switch on. Adam, � Do you have some pictures of this you could share please? � Paul � *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool � I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net � �
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Nevermind http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Status-of-5-1Ghz-for-PMP450/td-p/37344 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: And 5.1 rocks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: 5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
Oh yeah. Before I built the flashlight kit, I really considered getting one of these Veracity VAD-PS things. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sku=728216gclid=Cj0KEQjw3M6oBRDnnIywo5i287ABEiQAXRm7S76-Q0qHRUb-o_qn1x-0mocQBMheH7ZK1yBfA761cxsaAnUy8P8HAQQ=is=REGA=details It provides 802.3af output, has an SLA battery inside, and has a 12v accessory port. The trouble was, I figured I'd end up using the accessory port for almost everything I'd want to power, and also the battery supposedly isn't replaceable (I assume you can always replace the battery with a hacksaw). The only good thing about it was it looked a lot more pro compared to showing up with home made tools. It might not look so pro after I glue a wifi AP on the side of it, so that isn't that great either. On 3/26/2015 3:19 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Adam, The link for the tyconpower product didn�t come through. They make a POE that takes 24v and outputs 48v? Not seeing it on their website *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net �
[AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
It's time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack). The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM . The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries 24v ish to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity. Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v ish battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable, un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered
What about something like this? http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=POE-MSPLT-4812 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The ones I use take about 8 watts. But that is at 12 volts. So pretty high current for CAT 5. *From:* CARL PETERSON cpeter...@portnetworks.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered Does anyone make a POE powered outdoor GPON ONT? My thinking on this would be that it would be much easier to DEMARC the fiber on the outside of the house and then power the ONT via POE like we do for a CSM install. Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS*
Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer?
I believe simply welding your doors closed and installing a CB and dixie horn will solve all your issues. Thanks TT From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? We have a pretty decent footprint, but the layout of the roads is what gets us. Farthest drive we have is a little over 45 minutes, but the tower is a hair over 12 miles away. I'm reading up on Knight Rider/Dukes of Hazzard tech to hop the river and save myself a half an hour drive. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? We had a 100 mile radius from our office... so 1.5 hours. Travis On 3/26/2015 9:18 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Just curious how far you are willing to have installers drive to install a customer. I know a lot of you have remote sites but what is the furthest you'd have your people drive to do an install?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 www.velociter.net
Re: [AFMUG] Cisco assist
On Thu March 26 2015 13:36, Jaime Solorza wrote: How do you resert a Cisco Catalyst 3560=CG to default? Hmmm, simple answer clear config all from an enabled login. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Is Part 15.247 cert still available up to June 2nd?
On 3/26/2015 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would seem they have an incentive to get it through FCC approval
before June 2.
*From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide
j...@velociter.net mailto:j...@velociter.net wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it
the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221 tel:209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800 tel:209-838-1800
www.velociter.net http://www.velociter.net/
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Ken No I have not asked to be placed on the village agenda for board meeting due to I am trying to figure out how to lay this all out on paper. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Have you asked to be put on the agenda for a village board meeting? Have you suggested they send out bids to all the WISPs in the area and take the highest bid? BTW, I wonder if this will get harder with cellcos using LTE-U/LAA-LTE, they may want to add 3.x and 5.x GHz to their list of exclusive use frequencies in their leases. From: Tim Reichhart mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year. Mark On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: And 5.1 rocks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote: 5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net mailto:j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 tel:209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 tel:209-838-1800 www.velociter.net http://www.velociter.net/ -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Have you asked to be put on the agenda for a village board meeting? Have you suggested they send out bids to all the WISPs in the area and take the highest bid? BTW, I wonder if this will get harder with cellcos using LTE-U/LAA-LTE, they may want to add 3.x and 5.x GHz to their list of exclusive use frequencies in their leases. From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
The population is only “2,687” From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower What is the population of the village? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim _ Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e1f27c-247f8cc0-6701-437d-8558-7e3db9651711-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
James There is really no competition really besides centurylink/TWC but no wisp’s in the area LOL.. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Do you have competition there? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower The population is only “2,687” From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower What is the population of the village? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim _ Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e1f27c-247f8cc0-6701-437d-8558-7e3db9651711-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list. _ Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e51800-335f06fd-139d-4e18-9f8a-ada750f9bea9-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166625125domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166625125domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
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Apparently we’re stingy. We usually do $1 per foot in free service to their buildings. Depends a lot on what you think the take rate might be though. Sounds like they have Centurylink fiber in the village/city. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower We do a lot of that. Depends on how bad we want the tower and what we think it will do for our customer take in the area but we try to stay around 1.00 per foot plus free internet for 2-3 city buildings Craig From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [https://docs.google.com/a/northcentraltower.com/uc?id=0B12mNmVrr3-PbU1UMFk0OUFhOGsexport=download] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804tel:630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291tel:630-777-9291 [Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e68079-25ef992e-fd00-4e97-9b04-c0c4669df799-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166632216domain=litewire.net Removehttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166632216domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
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at $50/mo per subscriber (average internet price, or whatever your average ARPU is) means you would need to have 160 subscribers just to pay the rent. how big is the town, and how many potential subs can this water tower gain you? once you show them those numbers they will usually have an ah ha moment and realize that it's just not practical. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
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8000/mo would be very high even for a rooftop site with extensive use of risers, on top of the tallest Class A office building in a city of 3-4 million. Such as the Columbia Seafirst tower in Seattle. On March 26, 2015 at 5:25 PM James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote: I think Sean read that wrong. $8000 was annual, not monthly. It would be $650 + monthly. Still takes 13 just to cover their rent before you start to even cover your other costs. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Sean The village is only around 2900 and I am thinking maybe 40-50 or more potential subs from this location. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:17 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower at $50/mo per subscriber (average internet price, or whatever your average ARPU is) means you would need to have 160 subscribers just to pay the rent. how big is the town, and how many potential subs can this water tower gain you? once you show them those numbers they will usually have an ah ha moment and realize that it's just not practical. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim - Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57f62089-1fc4edc4-2052-4687-b9cd-c6049d3ae592-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166674650domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166674650domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
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If you agreed to $8000 per year I will come build towers that are 125 feet tall and rent you space on them all day long Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2015, at 15:32, e...@kuhnke-international.com e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote: Do the math, if you build a 180' 65G guyed tower or similar how many years does it take to pay off, at 8000 per year? On March 26, 2015 at 4:27 PM Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
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$200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
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Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower *Importance:* Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [image: Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
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What is the population of the village? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e1f27c-247f8cc0-6701-437d-8558-7e3db9651711-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net Removehttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
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We do a lot of that. Depends on how bad we want the tower and what we think it will do for our customer take in the area but we try to stay around 1.00 per foot plus free internet for 2-3 city buildings Craig - Original Message - From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “ I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
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Heck I tried to get onto an other village water tower and they wanted like 800+ per month because they used to having cell phone company on there water tower and they are telling me same thing as this village is telling me “doubt if the village council be interested in renting space for that price per month ” I don’t know what these villages managers are trying get at here but its making me mad. I don’t know what trick is getting onto these water towers but these are key locations for my wisp get onto. I wish I had more contracts to have an stand on I only got maybe 3 contracts from other local villages around me who have other wisp there water towers. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low Apparently we’re stingy. We usually do $1 per foot in free service to their buildings. Depends a lot on what you think the take rate might be though. Sounds like they have Centurylink fiber in the village/city. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower We do a lot of that. Depends on how bad we want the tower and what we think it will do for our customer take in the area but we try to stay around 1.00 per foot plus free internet for 2-3 city buildings Craig _ From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim _ Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e68079-25ef992e-fd00-4e97-9b04-c0c4669df799-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166632216domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166632216domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Sean The village is only around 2900 and I am thinking maybe 40-50 or more potential subs from this location. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower at $50/mo per subscriber (average internet price, or whatever your average ARPU is) means you would need to have 160 subscribers just to pay the rent. how big is the town, and how many potential subs can this water tower gain you? once you show them those numbers they will usually have an ah ha moment and realize that it's just not practical. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
One of they key messages to remind them of: There are two categories of tenants, generally. First category: Sprint, Verizon, TMobile, etc. Or an ILEC. second category: WISPs If the big name cellular carriers have not already leased space on their water tower, they are highly unlikely to do so any time in the near future. Holding out lease rates of $500 per month or more are not going to accomplish anything. On March 26, 2015 at 5:17 PM Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: at $50/mo per subscriber (average internet price, or whatever your average ARPU is) means you would need to have 160 subscribers just to pay the rent. how big is the town, and how many potential subs can this water tower gain you? once you show them those numbers they will usually have an ah ha moment and realize that it's just not practical. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
James I don’t mind doing 200-250 but when they asking more then that it seems like they arm strong you to giving them more just to rent space for little sectors unlike celluar sectors… Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low The trouble is that having other contracts doesn’t help. We have one that we’re giving a $49 connection to for use of their tower (80’ tower but it’s very wooded) and paying them until they allow us to put the connection in at their office. We’re negotiating with another nearby village who are acting something like the one you’re dealing with. We just read the minutes from their last meeting and they claimed that they talked to the other village and were told that we’re paying them $299 per month. There’s quite a bit of difference between $49 per month and $299 per month……. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Heck I tried to get onto an other village water tower and they wanted like 800+ per month because they used to having cell phone company on there water tower and they are telling me same thing as this village is telling me “doubt if the village council be interested in renting space for that price per month ” I don’t know what these villages managers are trying get at here but its making me mad. I don’t know what trick is getting onto these water towers but these are key locations for my wisp get onto. I wish I had more contracts to have an stand on I only got maybe 3 contracts from other local villages around me who have other wisp there water towers. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low Apparently we’re stingy. We usually do $1 per foot in free service to their buildings. Depends a lot on what you think the take rate might be though. Sounds like they have Centurylink fiber in the village/city. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower We do a lot of that. Depends on how bad we want the tower and what we think it will do for our customer take in the area but we try to stay around 1.00 per foot plus free internet for 2-3 city buildings Craig _ From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them.
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Find another tower or build one. If they have big numbers in their head you're not going to convince them to lease it for a fraction of that. We wasted months working on a village tower here, never got them to understand true value id the space. Years later their tower is still empty. On Mar 26, 2015 4:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower *Importance:* Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [image: Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
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Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Erich If they are renting fiber from centurylink I highly doubt they net at each location. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Do you have competition there? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower The population is only “2,687” From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower What is the population of the village? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:59 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e1f27c-247f8cc0-6701-437d-8558-7e3db9651711-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net Removehttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166612287domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list. Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57e51800-335f06fd-139d-4e18-9f8a-ada750f9bea9-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166625125domain=litewire.net Removehttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166625125domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Most expensive I have is 100/antenna/month. No more than that IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 5:05 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich If they are renting fiber from centurylink I highly doubt they net at each location. Tim *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [image: Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower *Importance:* Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [image: Description: Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
Did you use the AirGateway or AirGatewayLR ? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool Oh yeah.� Before I built the flashlight kit, I really considered getting one of these Veracity VAD-PS things.http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sku=728216gclid=Cj0KEQjw3M6oBRDnnIywo5i287ABEiQAXRm7S76-Q0qHRUb-o_qn1x-0mocQBMheH7ZK1yBfA761cxsaAnUy8P8HAQQ=is=REGA=details It provides 802.3af output, has an SLA battery inside, and has a 12v accessory port.� The trouble was, I figured I'd end up using the accessory port for almost everything I'd want to power, and also the battery supposedly isn't replaceable (I assume you can always replace the battery with a hacksaw).� The only good thing about it was it looked a lot more pro compared to showing up with home made tools.� It might not look so pro after I glue a wifi AP on the side of it, so that isn't that great either. On 3/26/2015 3:19 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Adam, � The link for the tyconpower product didn�t come through.� They make a POE that takes 24v and outputs 48v? � Not seeing it on their website � From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool � I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net � �
Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928)
I don't think so. Looks like something they've already designed and built before. I asked about changing the dimensions of the 013353. He came back with the 014011 alternative which is pretty much the dimensions I asked for. It isn't twice the material so I can't see why it'd be twice the price. I guess I can ask. On 3/26/2015 3:47 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Is that a custom one? I know they have an engineering fee if you want something they don't currently make, but that only applies to the first unit. On Thursday, March 26, 2015, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: OK, I knew it was going to be a bit more expensive, but I didn't think it'd be double. It's $768. No way the boss is going for that. On 3/25/2015 8:31 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: How much for that taller one, George? -Ty On Mar 25, 2015 6:52 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geo...@cbcast.com'); wrote: FYI, in case anyone is interested. This is the one I think we're going to go with. Still waiting on a final quote. I expect it to be a bit more expensive, but worth it. On 3/22/2015 12:56 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: Looks like the TMB option is designed to mount up to Rohn 25 legs? That's pretty nice. That with the rack rails is even better. But I foresee a problem. If I have the rack full or nearly full (which is very possible), and batteries sitting in the bottom, they're behind all the stuff in the rack and impossible to get to. I'm going to hit them up and see how much it would cost to extend the bottom about 6 for a dedicated battery area. It's not like it has to be a separate compartment or anything special like that. On 3/21/2015 12:41 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Forwarding this per previous post. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Matt Jenkins* m...@smarterbroadband.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','m...@smarterbroadband.net'); Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928) To: af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); I called Bison Pro Fab. Scott sent me this. Original Message Subject: Bison Profab - Quotation #10928 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:56:54 -0500 From: Scott Taylor stay...@bisonprofab.com To: m...@smarterbroadband.com CC: bplad...@bisonprofab.com Matt, Thank you for the opportunity. Your estimate and drawings are attached. The 013353-TMB is our stock enclosure that we can ship immedaitely. The 013353-EIA will ship in 1- 3 days on small quantities. Please let me know if this will meet your requirements and if there is anything we may do to assist you. Thank You Sir, Scott T. This message contains 3 attachment(s). Don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader? Click this link to download it now for free. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Josh I know… and you know what I am up against. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Most expensive I have is 100/antenna/month. No more than that IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 5:05 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich If they are renting fiber from centurylink I highly doubt they net at each location. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 Description: Description: Image removed by sender. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
The trouble is that having other contracts doesn’t help. We have one that we’re giving a $49 connection to for use of their tower (80’ tower but it’s very wooded) and paying them until they allow us to put the connection in at their office. We’re negotiating with another nearby village who are acting something like the one you’re dealing with. We just read the minutes from their last meeting and they claimed that they talked to the other village and were told that we’re paying them $299 per month. There’s quite a bit of difference between $49 per month and $299 per month……. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Heck I tried to get onto an other village water tower and they wanted like 800+ per month because they used to having cell phone company on there water tower and they are telling me same thing as this village is telling me “doubt if the village council be interested in renting space for that price per month ” I don’t know what these villages managers are trying get at here but its making me mad. I don’t know what trick is getting onto these water towers but these are key locations for my wisp get onto. I wish I had more contracts to have an stand on I only got maybe 3 contracts from other local villages around me who have other wisp there water towers. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low Apparently we’re stingy. We usually do $1 per foot in free service to their buildings. Depends a lot on what you think the take rate might be though. Sounds like they have Centurylink fiber in the village/city. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower We do a lot of that. Depends on how bad we want the tower and what we think it will do for our customer take in the area but we try to stay around 1.00 per foot plus free internet for 2-3 city buildings Craig From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804tel:630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291tel:630-777-9291 [Description: Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To:
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
$100/month with one free internet connection is common for us. Somewhat more in some areas. Tim Reichhart wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for �renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually� Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna�s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928)
I think for $750-850 I could built a 2.5' wide, 3.5’ deep, 7.5’ height wood framed, cedar shingled, peaked roof wood structure/cabinet, with four feet to stand on concrete blocks... And put a 42U open frame rack inside it. Rack like this: http://www.startech.com/m/Server-Management/Racks/42U-Adjustable-Depth-4-Post-Server-Rack~4POSTRACK42 On March 26, 2015 at 5:20 PM George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I don't think so. Looks like something they've already designed and built before. I asked about changing the dimensions of the 013353. He came back with the 014011 alternative which is pretty much the dimensions I asked for. It isn't twice the material so I can't see why it'd be twice the price. I guess I can ask. On 3/26/2015 3:47 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Is that a custom one? I know they have an engineering fee if you want something they don't currently make, but that only applies to the first unit. On Thursday, March 26, 2015, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: OK, I knew it was going to be a bit more expensive, but I didn't think it'd be double. It's $768. No way the boss is going for that. On 3/25/2015 8:31 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: How much for that taller one, George? -Ty On Mar 25, 2015 6:52 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: FYI, in case anyone is interested. This is the one I think we're going to go with. Still waiting on a final quote. I expect it to be a bit more expensive, but worth it. On 3/22/2015 12:56 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: Looks like the TMB option is designed to mount up to Rohn 25 legs? That's pretty nice. That with the rack rails is even better. But I foresee a problem. If I have the rack full or nearly full (which is very possible), and batteries sitting in the bottom, they're behind all the stuff in the rack and impossible to get to. I'm going to hit them up and see how much it would cost to extend the bottom about 6 for a dedicated battery area. It's not like it has to be a separate compartment or anything special like that. On 3/21/2015 12:41 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Forwarding this per previous post. -- Forwarded message -- From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928) To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com I called Bison Pro Fab. Scott sent me this. Original Message Subject: Bison Profab - Quotation #10928 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:56:54 -0500 From: Scott Taylor stay...@bisonprofab.com To: m...@smarterbroadband.com CC: bplad...@bisonprofab.com Matt, Thank you for the opportunity. Your estimate and drawings are attached. The 013353-TMB is our stock enclosure that we can ship immedaitely. The 013353-EIA will ship in 1- 3 days on small quantities. Please let me know if this will meet your requirements and if there is anything we may do to assist you. Thank You Sir, Scott T. This message contains 3 attachment(s). Don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader? Click this link to download it now for free. http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
Tim, If they’re at all reasonable, try showing them the numbers. Estimate on the low side and explain that there’s a ramp up period to get to the 40 customers. Show your ARPU and explain that you also have all of your other cost of doing business. If your ARPU is $50 per month, you’re looking at a $2000 per month potential revenue. Explain your overhead and show them what you’re paying for other towers even if they aren’t water towers. Also, mention to them that signing a contract with you won’t stop them from signing a deal with a cell company as well. Hopefully you can get someone to listen to reason. Another thing we’ve done is to tell people who call us from that community to call the village and tell them they want our service in town. James From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Sean The village is only around 2900 and I am thinking maybe 40-50 or more potential subs from this location. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:17 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower at $50/mo per subscriber (average internet price, or whatever your average ARPU is) means you would need to have 160 subscribers just to pay the rent. how big is the town, and how many potential subs can this water tower gain you? once you show them those numbers they will usually have an ah ha moment and realize that it's just not practical. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually” Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna’s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014c57f62089-1fc4edc4-2052-4687-b9cd-c6049d3ae592-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=3166674650domain=litewire.net Removehttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=3166674650domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list You received this message because the domain amazonses.com is on your allow list.
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
If your capacity and network design allow for it, offer them a 100 Mbps dedicated, 5-nines SLA business class connection. That's easily worth 700/mo. Small municipalities use a surprisingly tiny amount of traffic, in a highly cyclic sine wave day and night pattern. I would be surprised if their 95th percentile average over a month is more than 10 or 15 meg per second. On March 26, 2015 at 5:22 PM Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: $100/month with one free internet connection is common for us. Somewhat more in some areas. Tim Reichhart wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for �renting a small fiber optic cable facility to Century Link for $8000 annually� Which I feel that quote is unfair for an small wisp like me. I have explain to them that I am an small WISP and I am not like centurylink or any telephone company. Then they turn around emailed me again saying they just got an letter from an cell phone company wanting to rent space on there water tower. They also told me they are getting ready to install water smart meter and they will be placing antenna�s on there. Sounds like to me the village is trying some tricky crap to make me offer more money then what I offered to them. So I like you guys input into this. Tim
Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower
We take pictures of our other towers and show them the sort of antennas we put up. Stress the fact that they can still rent to a cell company too. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower James I don’t mind doing 200-250 but when they asking more then that it seems like they arm strong you to giving them more just to rent space for little sectors unlike celluar sectors… Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:24 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low The trouble is that having other contracts doesn’t help. We have one that we’re giving a $49 connection to for use of their tower (80’ tower but it’s very wooded) and paying them until they allow us to put the connection in at their office. We’re negotiating with another nearby village who are acting something like the one you’re dealing with. We just read the minutes from their last meeting and they claimed that they talked to the other village and were told that we’re paying them $299 per month. There’s quite a bit of difference between $49 per month and $299 per month……. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Heck I tried to get onto an other village water tower and they wanted like 800+ per month because they used to having cell phone company on there water tower and they are telling me same thing as this village is telling me “doubt if the village council be interested in renting space for that price per month ” I don’t know what these villages managers are trying get at here but its making me mad. I don’t know what trick is getting onto these water towers but these are key locations for my wisp get onto. I wish I had more contracts to have an stand on I only got maybe 3 contracts from other local villages around me who have other wisp there water towers. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low Apparently we’re stingy. We usually do $1 per foot in free service to their buildings. Depends a lot on what you think the take rate might be though. Sounds like they have Centurylink fiber in the village/city. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower We do a lot of that. Depends on how bad we want the tower and what we think it will do for our customer take in the area but we try to stay around 1.00 per foot plus free internet for 2-3 city buildings Craig From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:02:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Don't do revenue share, it gets to complicated. Do they need Internet at some of their locations, offer a barter for that and a lower rate 100/m. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 [Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Erich I offered them 200-250 plus 5% per customer and they told me “I doubt the Village Council would be interested to rent space for $50-$200 per month.” They only have one water tower. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] avg rent for village/city water tower Importance: Low $200-250/m, do a deal where you can get the same rate on any of their water towers if they have multiple. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.commailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804tel:630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291tel:630-777-9291 [Description: Description: Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.commailto:t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Guys This is for the people who is renting space on village/city water tower whats your avg rent or what did you guys agreed on rent? Because I have one village is trying sucker punch me into saying that I should give them 8-15k per year to rent space on there water tower and where they are getting this quote is because centurylink is paying them 15k per year for “ renting a small fiber
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
AirGateway. On 3/26/2015 5:16 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Did you use the AirGateway or AirGatewayLR ? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool Oh yeah.� Before I built the flashlight kit, I really considered getting one of these Veracity VAD-PS things. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sku=728216gclid=Cj0KEQjw3M6oBRDnnIywo5i287ABEiQAXRm7S76-Q0qHRUb-o_qn1x-0mocQBMheH7ZK1yBfA761cxsaAnUy8P8HAQQ=is=REGA=details It provides 802.3af output, has an SLA battery inside, and has a 12v accessory port.� The trouble was, I figured I'd end up using the accessory port for almost everything I'd want to power, and also the battery supposedly isn't replaceable (I assume you can always replace the battery with a hacksaw).� The only good thing about it was it looked a lot more pro compared to showing up with home made tools.� It might not look so pro after I glue a wifi AP on the side of it, so that isn't that great either. On 3/26/2015 3:19 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Adam, � The link for the tyconpower product didn�t come through.� They make a POE that takes 24v and outputs 48v? � Not seeing it on their website � *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool � I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before.� Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight.� That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi.� We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff.� I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm.� On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. � Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack).� � The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM .�� The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy � Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�.� 24v� �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity.� � Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish�� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. � Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable,� un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. � Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? � Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net � �
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list
Hi, A 2.4.1 Beta release will most likely be posted in the next couple of days with these issues repaired. Dan Sullivan ePMP Software Manager From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 2.4 bug - no ap list I had the same initial complaint I have not yet installed any of them somewhat waiting for that to be fixed I can't imagine it would be that big of a bug fix to show the available APs Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:22, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's apparently a bunch of things broken. My complaint was not seeing the APs found after a scan on the monitor wireless page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 26, 2015 1:19 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.netmailto:mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net wrote: I was going to post to the list to ask a question, but when you say no ap list Are you saying no MAC addresses in the ARP table, because that is what I am seeing. The only ARP entry I see is the radio gateway. My customer devices are not showing in the arp table of the subscriber epmp since I upgraded to 2.4 software release. Gilbert Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. Phoenix Internet 602.385.0720tel:602.385.0720 On 3/20/2015 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Are you f$%king serious? Do you guys even make sure the thing compiled before you release it??? What a dumbass bug!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Battery driven Multi-platform site suvey tool
I copied the drill flashlight method that has been posted here before. Except I stuffed the guts of a UBNT air gateway into the light bulb housing on the flashlight. That has 24V PoE out (UBNT polarity) and wifi. We used a cable that crosses the power pairs for Canopy stuff. I epoxied A tycon DC PoE adapter to the side of the flashlight for the 320, http://tyconpower.com/products/POE.htm. On 3/26/2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall wrote: It�s time for me to revisit the portable site-survey tool/backpack/fanny pack, etc. Currently we have a small drill battery that fits spade plugs nicely into it, with a wired POE jack (picture shows one using Canopy type POE jack). The goal is to make a more universal POE adapter scenario, that would power a Canopy 100/450 series SM, a UBNT SM, or a Cambium 320SM . The battery pack will also power a Mikrotik 951-2n and that part is pretty easy Looking to put the POE jacks (3) in a little project box, and use off the shelf batteries�. 24v �ish� to power the Canopy and UBNT (different jacks wired respectively with the proper polarity. Obviously, on the 320SMs, I am planning a second 24v �ish� battery run in series to produce 48v, with the proper pins 4,5,7,8 etc. Ideally, it would be nice to have the batteries be pluggable, un-pluggable to be charged without having to unwire anything, etc. Anybody doing a 3-headed POE (or multi-personality) site-survey tool? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
[AFMUG] Cisco assist
How do you resert a Cisco Catalyst 3560=CG to default? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
How are you monitoring your customers connections? ryan On 3/26/15 3:43 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
Detail, visually watching bandwidth usage in Winbox. Long term, MT usage graphs. 5 minute average doesn't show the peaks, but when the entire tower doesn't use an average of 4Mbps... - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions How are you monitoring your customers connections? ryan On 3/26/15 3:43 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. � I've got three customers�in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go. � �
[AFMUG] Speed questions
I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are well fed and barely eating. I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower usage increases significantly just because of me. You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions Lift your limiters for a night and see what the network does. That will give you an idea of where you need to upgrade You may have a choke point between the AP's and the Internet you aren't aware of so the user traffic is being limited but not in the way you might think. Jerry R From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered
Just get a 12v poe injector and a splitter? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Gerard Dupont III ger...@shelbybb.commailto:ger...@shelbybb.com wrote: What about something like this? http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=POE-MSPLT-4812 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The ones I use take about 8 watts. But that is at 12 volts. So pretty high current for CAT 5. From: CARL PETERSONmailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:46 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor GPON ONT POE powered Does anyone make a POE powered outdoor GPON ONT? My thinking on this would be that it would be much easier to DEMARC the fiber on the outside of the house and then power the ONT via POE like we do for a CSM install. Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
Lift your limiters for a night and see what the network does. That will give you an idea of where you need to upgrade You may have a choke point between the AP's and the Internet you aren't aware of so the user traffic is being limited but not in the way you might think. Jerry R From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
Customers willing to pay more for a big speedtest.net number but who don't use it are your best kind of customers! We sell up to 15 megs right now. I don't think I've ever seen someone with 15megs pegged out continually. We do see customers who max out a 5meg connection, probably streaming video on multiple devices. I say sell them what they thing they want/need or someone else will come in and do it. Just make sure when they do start to use it, you have a plan for how you will upgrade the network to maintain same level of service. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are well fed and barely eating. I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower usage increases significantly just because of me. You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. - Original Message - *From:* Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions Lift your limiters for a night and see what the network does. That will give you an idea of where you need to upgrade You may have a choke point between the AP’s and the Internet you aren’t aware of so the user traffic is being limited but not in the way you might think. Jerry R *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Speed questions I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
PTP650 already available just by updating to new firmware On 3/26/2015 3:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: 455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year. Mark On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: And 5.1 rocks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote: 5.1 thru 5.8 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net mailto:j...@velociter.net wrote: What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq? Thanks, Josh Josh Heide Velociter Wireless (office) 209-838-1221 tel:209-838-1221 (fax) 209-838-1800 tel:209-838-1800 www.velociter.net http://www.velociter.net/ -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 --
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
I believe so. Of course you only get a year after that to sell the product.
Let’s hope the group presenting the consensus proposal to OET tomorrow has a
good meeting.
I’m imagining the scene where Dorothy and her friends plead their case before
the Great and Powerful Oz.
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Is Part 15.247 cert still available up to June 2nd?
On 3/26/2015 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would seem they have an incentive to get it through FCC approval before
June 2.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide j...@velociter.net
wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it the same for
450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800
www.velociter.net
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country who doesn’t even know how to turn on a computer has a new girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers. Just one of many complaints about having to move out from town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. Then there are the people who are complaining about slowness that won’t be fixed by faster Internet. Like the trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a “load board” site to find other loads he can pick up along the way. It’s a big database and it’s thinking. Faster Internet is not going to fix that. Or you could have a problem that you’re unaware of. It might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is. Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV which is telling them their Internet is too slow? Are they having DNS lookup problems? Do they have crappy, dying routers or WiFi problems? Maybe an Ethernet surge protector partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors? I’ve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how slow, and they say “I’ve been waiting 2 days for Google to load”. That’s like Monty Python and the parrot that’s just sleeping, or pining for the fjords. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are well fed and barely eating. I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower usage increases significantly just because of me. You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions Lift your limiters for a night and see what the network does. That will give you an idea of where you need to upgrade You may have a choke point between the APs and the Internet you arent aware of so the user traffic is being limited but not in the way you might think. Jerry R From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Speed questions I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions
This is probably the pessimist in me speaking, but I was thinking along similar lines. Something they're doing doesn't work, and in their mind speed is the problem. On 3/26/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Some people want to see a 25/3 speedtest just in case, or because someone told them so, or for bragging rights, or because they think speedtest.net is an epic game. A trend that is annoying me is some guy in the country who doesn’t even know how to turn on a computer has a new girlfriend or his kid has moved back in, and is complaining that his Internet sucks because of low speedtest numbers. Just one of many complaints about having to move out from town, along with well and septic and mice and no Starbucks. Then there are the people who are complaining about slowness that won’t be fixed by faster Internet. Like the trucker who has a partial load and puts his itinerary into a “load board” site to find other loads he can pick up along the way. It’s a big database and it’s thinking. Faster Internet is not going to fix that. Or you could have a problem that you’re unaware of. It might be worthwhile picking a few of the complainers and going out and having them demonstrate what the problem is. Are they trying to watch HD video on their new smart TV which is telling them their Internet is too slow? Are they having DNS lookup problems? Do they have crappy, dying routers or WiFi problems? Maybe an Ethernet surge protector partially blown and they have really bad Ethernet errors? I’ve had people say my Internet is slow, and I ask them how slow, and they say “I’ve been waiting 2 days for Google to load”. That’s like Monty Python and the parrot that’s just sleeping, or pining for the fjords. *From:* Glen Waldrop mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions I've done that. They're just not big users. They *need* faster just because. I need to upgrade my tower soon, but the rest are well fed and barely eating. I can pull up the usage graphs and see every time I go out onsite or work on someone's computer. The entire tower usage increases significantly just because of me. You'd figure 20 households would use more bandwidth than one IT guy on the clock. - Original Message - *From:* Jerry Richardson mailto:je...@richardson.bz *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Speed questions Lift your limiters for a night and see what the network does. That will give you an idea of where you need to upgrade You may have a choke point between the APs and the Internet you arent aware of so the user traffic is being limited but not in the way you might think. Jerry R *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Speed questions I've got a handful of customers that are requesting higher speeds. We currently offer 4Mbps to the customer. Only a few even come close to using that. I've got three towers that don't even hit 4Mbps on a 5 minute average, much less individual customers. I've got three customers in particular that hardly ever use the Internet and constantly harrang me for higher speeds. I'm upgrading everything anyway, so it is just a matter of time, but how do you guys handle that? I could turn up their speed and sell them 10Mbps fairly easily, but they're not even hitting my 4Mbps limit 99% of the time. I'm seeing this biting me in the ass either way I go.
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
lol ok. Is Chairman Wheeler the giant floating head or the little man
behind the curtain?
On 3/26/2015 9:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I believe so. Of course you only get a year after that to sell the
product. Let’s hope the group presenting the consensus proposal to
OET tomorrow has a good meeting.
I’m imagining the scene where Dorothy and her friends plead their case
before the Great and Powerful Oz.
*From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:33 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Is Part 15.247 cert still available up to June 2nd?
On 3/26/2015 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would seem they have an incentive to get it through FCC approval
before June 2.
*From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 5ghz band
Second half of some year I guess.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/26/2015 1:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
455 AP I believe. Next month. Or next year.
Mark
On 3/26/15 3:12 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
When, if ever, will the 450 be capable of 5.2 or 5.1?
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
And 5.1 rocks.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote:
5.1 thru 5.8
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Joshua Heide
j...@velociter.net mailto:j...@velociter.net wrote:
What freq are available in the 5ghz band in USA is it
the same for 450 gear where we goet 5.4 and 5.7 freq?
Thanks,
Josh
Josh Heide
Velociter Wireless
(office) 209-838-1221 tel:209-838-1221
(fax) 209-838-1800 tel:209-838-1800
www.velociter.net http://www.velociter.net/
--
Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer?
One hour. Beyond that I'd likely setup a second office. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:18 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Just curious how far you are willing to have installers drive to install a customer. I know a lot of you have remote sites but what is the furthest you'd have your people drive to do an install?
Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer?
3 hours. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is the longest you'd drive to install a customer? One hour. Beyond that I'd likely setup a second office. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:18 AM, can...@believewireless.netmailto:can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.netmailto:p...@believewireless.net wrote: Just curious how far you are willing to have installers drive to install a customer. I know a lot of you have remote sites but what is the furthest you'd have your people drive to do an install?
Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
Yeah, I finally got it figured out. I think if you dial into the IP it will
only show the master account. But if you hit it via URL it sorts them out
correctly.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Web hosting
We have that through Powweb.� We have about six web sites on one IP
address.� They are all in subdirectories, and you put a special file in the
root directory to redirect everything.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/25/2015 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I feel a bit snookered.� I purchased hosting from GoDaddy this morning, a
more expensive package.� It said unlimited websites.�
�
That does not mean, it turns out, to be unlimited DNS to individual IPs.�
Not wanting a main page were you select the site you want to go to.� I was
wanting to have DNS direct the person to the webpage for a discrete company and
I wanted to do that for as many domains as I own.�
�
But it appears, unless I have not yet figured it out, that I get one IP for
one main domain.� It allows sub domains but it does not appear to be able to
make it go seamless directly to the sub domains.� This is certainly a weak
point for me.� I can hand hack HTML if� you point me to the correct
directory on the right server but that is about it.
