Re: [AFMUG] Looking for toughswitches.

[Timothy Steele]

We have seen more issues with mikrotiks then tough switches I know they
can't do as much as mikrotiks but tough switch definitely has its places if
the issue is posted on the ubnt forums I'm sure it we be resolved quickly
or a different switch for the situation will be recommended

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018, 1:23 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> He hasn't seen them because he hasn't deployed them.
>
> The ToughSwitches are almost universally known as being trash.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Timothy Steele" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, June 2, 2018 12:21:25 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Looking for toughswitches.
>
>
> What's issues you seeing? You might try the WISP auction group on Facebook
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 6:30 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to get a collection of toughswitches for my bench to
>> basically be able to replicate the issues with them - so I can verify any
>> switch product I may or may not be working on doesn't suffer the same
>> issues.
>>
>> Does anyone have some of these headed for the dumpster that I can salvage?
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=3577+Countryside+Road,+Helena,+MT+59602=gmail=g>
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux>  <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for toughswitches.

[Timothy Steele]

What's issues you seeing? You might try the WISP auction group on Facebook

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 6:30 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I would like to get a collection of toughswitches for my bench to
> basically be able to replicate the issues with them - so I can verify any
> switch product I may or may not be working on doesn't suffer the same
> issues.
>
> Does anyone have some of these headed for the dumpster that I can salvage?
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SOHO router hack

[Timothy Steele]

Mikrotiks are affected too please upgrade your firmware and keep your
firewall updated on routers with Public IP's

On Fri, May 25, 2018, 7:19 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> FBI recommends users at a minimum reboot their router to kill the
> malware.  Factory default, upgrade firmware and change passwords etc. is
> the best fix.
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/fbi-tells-router-users-to-reboot-now-to-kill-malware-infecting-500k-devices/
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for work Knoxville Tennessee

[Timothy Steele]

I've done a little of everything but network planning and and finding ways
to get wireless internet to customers that no one else can is where my
heart is.. here is my LinkedIn profile

https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-steele-40105723

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, 1:27 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> What kind of work are you looking for?  What's your expertise?  Resume?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373=gmail=g>
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Back in December my boss was killed in a ht and run
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/new-fatal-hit-and-run-victim-came-west-palm-work-apple-store/EA1TTmS6WnK753WZvhMaEO/amp.html
>>
>> His wife was trying to keep the company going but i just got the message
>> that she will be closing the company as of may 1st I'm in Asia right now
>> but would like to start a new job soon as i get back
>> If no jobs in Knoxville ill see what i can do to get out of my apartment
>> lease and move.. I'm getting married next year really can't accept less
>> then $16 per hour
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Looking for work Knoxville Tennessee

[Timothy Steele]

Hello,

Back in December my boss was killed in a ht and run


https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/new-fatal-hit-and-run-victim-came-west-palm-work-apple-store/EA1TTmS6WnK753WZvhMaEO/amp.html

His wife was trying to keep the company going but i just got the message
that she will be closing the company as of may 1st I'm in Asia right now
but would like to start a new job soon as i get back
If no jobs in Knoxville ill see what i can do to get out of my apartment
lease and move.. I'm getting married next year really can't accept less
then $16 per hour

Thanks!

Re: [AFMUG] Employee communication

[Timothy Steele]

Isn't Voxer the same thing and free??


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 2:56 PM  wrote:

> I use it when surveying.
>
> *From:* Jon Lee
> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 12:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee communication
>
> Just wanted to share something that has helped us out tremendously.
>
> Zello Walkie Talkie app (free)
> www.zello.com
> Android, iOS and even PC for dispatch.
>
> Very similar to the old Nextel system. You can talk one to one or one to
> many.
>
> Hope this helps some of you guys out.
>
> If you want a demo. Look me up, KJ7ON (yeah I am an amateur radio nerd as
> well)
>
> -Jon
> Off-Grid Networks
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT buy?

[Timothy Steele]

Buy what stock? UBNT is a early Google or or apple I would get stock if I
could lots of very cool new stuff coming out soon I would hold on to the
stock for a year

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:59 AM Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> Any thoughts?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Is the list still alive?

[Timothy Steele]

The Facebook community is a lot more alive these days..

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 10:44 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> It's not dead, Jim.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Colin Stanners 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is the list still alive?
>
> It's 10PM in your area Jon, I'm sure you've worked hard, relax a bit!
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Jon Langeler 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

[Timothy Steele]

We have have many top dollar AP's in home automation, and I also come from
a WISP background.. there is just no beating unifi they have come a very
long way just in the past 6 months if you have not tried unifi in a while
definitely take a 2nd look

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018, 9:47 AM Mitch Koep  wrote:

> TJ,
>
> What model are you using and firmware?
>
> We have two AC Pros covering 3 floors of a very large lodge type building?
>
> The building is concrete and wood construction and they work great??
>
> Mitch Koep
>
> 218-851-8689 cell
>
> On 1/31/2018 2:18 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> Unifi AC Pro/Lite is just fine.  We use them everywhere.
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:35 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> I guess I need more penetration or another e400, but they can't
>> seamlessly roam right?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> E400 Hands down.. We are using them every where.
>>> Have not tried new 410 yet but was very impressed with 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/31/2018 10:53 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>>
>>> First I started out with Ubiquiti AC AP ceiling mount the original
>>> version which was a complete flop and waste of money. I didn't upgraded to
>>> the cambium e400 but I've moved into a larger house now and the coverage is
>>> not very good.
>>>
>>> What is the best option currently for the longest range most reliable
>>> ceiling mount AP available?
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> TJ
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Inventory & schedule app for service only

[Timothy Steele]

I would love to use sonar but said they won't be a good fit.

We are doing home automation may split into a 2nd company to start a WISP
but for right now
We are in extreme need of a user friendly and cost effective inventory,
calendar, POS app wrapped into on will need it to intergrate with online
QuickBooks too


Our issue is we only normally do service once for a customer maybe every 4
months so to be billed monthly for theses customers dose not make sense if
anyone can recommend anything would be greatly appreciated

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP

[Timothy Steele]

What do you mean? Cellular one is known as the worst company alive
everywhere I've been

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 9:57 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> Hey Guys
>
> Those who know the history behind Cellular One, don’t you think this
> should be repeated in the WISP industry?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Really?

[Timothy Steele]

Someone must have told them you get triple The power if you point the dish
to the inside of the tower

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018, 2:31 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> +y , yes (many)
>
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Jaime Solorza
>  wrote:
> > So many ??? Is that what you meant? Saw same thing at Hobbs Water and few
> > other places...
> >
> > Jaime Solorza
> >
> > On Jan 27, 2018 6:07 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> >>
> >> So man small WISPs like this. It's a shame really.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Jaime Solorza
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Had to help out an old friend who owns a small WISP here in town whose
> >> > two
> >> > technicians are out with flu...went up to mountain after struggled
> with
> >> > out
> >> > of date codes to gate lock and three doors at site  Finally after
> >> > several calls and WhatsApp pictures, got inthis is what I
> >> > foundhooked up laptop and scanned network.  The IPs they gave me
> on
> >> > trouble tickets didn't match anything on scan list.  I rebooted AP
> since
> >> > password they gave me didn't work...the missing clients reassociated
> but
> >> > names didn't match tickets!!! Called office manager and asked her to
> >> > please
> >> > call clients on ticketsthey were back on line...I took pictures of
> >> > IPs
> >> > with names and sent to my friend took pictures of everything and
> >> > sent to
> >> > him.   He hadn't been up at mountain site in over a year...Has bad
> knee
> >> > and
> >> > is older than me so it is very hard for him...I told him I would like
> to
> >> > meet with him next week...he was going in for surgery on knee
> >> > tomorrow...I
> >> > hope I can clean all this up and install a camera so he can monitor
> this
> >> > site.   I know his head technician is lazy and my friend has lost
> allot
> >> > of
> >> > customer's due to poor service.  Let's see what happens...I still feel
> >> > icky
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> > Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT lutron

[Timothy Steele]

Why not just get a ELAN g1 to control your lutron and any other smart
device you have? A bit pricey but so much nicer in the end and a LOT less
work

Control your lights, shades,  music and TV's all in 1 spot

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018, 3:49 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Esp8266's are cheap and flexible. Part of me still wants to have
> everything hard wired though. Especially since I still need to run power.
>
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> I'm putting ESP8266's on everything in my house right now, with
>> arduinos and relay boards galore. Then those get connected up to a
>> private Blynk.cc server, so I can control them from my phone.
>>
>> I think I have an addiction. :(
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:31 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> > Have three switches on a circuit in master bedroom running 7 can lights
>> in
>> > ceiling.
>> >
>> > Some of the last convert to LED.
>> > They make some nice PAR38 reflector LEDS with a color temp equivalent to
>> > tungsten.
>> > Finally.
>> >
>> > So have thought of a dimmer on this for years.  3 switches.  Could put a
>> > dimmer in one place that would control the whole circuit but that would
>> not
>> > be good if you dimmed it then wanted to control from another location.
>> So
>> > went all googly and came up with a Lutron product.  Has to be a
>> particular
>> > product that will work for LEDS.  And has to be the RF version, not IR
>> > remote.
>> >
>> > The master dimmer uses one of the travelers as a data circuit to talk
>> to the
>> > other dimmers and come to agreement as to the level that is wanted.
>> >
>> > Can dim from any location.  You can put any number of dimmers/switches
>> on a
>> > circuit.   Has a preset dim button too.
>> > Gotta make sure to only have ONE master dimmer on the circuit.  They
>> all get
>> > unhappy if more than one is the master.  This detail is very hard to
>> find in
>> > the instructions.
>> >
>> > All of the switches have the dimmer controls.  Only the master has the
>> RF
>> > receiver.  Have as many remotes as you want.
>> >
>> > Too several purchasing misfires (and one factory packing error), two
>> very
>> > light at night tech support calls to Lutron (native American English
>> speaker
>> > that actually knew his stuff).  Blew some sparks when jamming all the
>> wires
>> > into one of the outlet boxes (everybody does residential electrical
>> work hot
>> > right, else how would you know of you blew a circuit breaker when
>> jamming
>> > all those wires back in that little box).
>> >
>> > All the switches are finally in the wall, the grounds are even
>> connected and
>> > the coverplates are on.  This after about a month of bloody ended wires
>> > hanging out of the wall in three places and touching wires together to
>> turn
>> > the lights on and off...
>> >
>> > I would recommend this system now that the pain of learning the
>> different
>> > components and the wiring scheme is over.   Two touches up and full
>> > brightness.  One touch up and preset dimming.  Turning them off makes
>> them
>> > ramp down to a nice soft finish.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Looking for a good iOS inventory app

[Timothy Steele]

No idea need a iOS app tho..

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 11:20 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> it looks that good, but thats what im aking, beta eta
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> For WAMA its wide open unlimited and free right now until out of beta
>> it's really awesome
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 11:07 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
> when do the other tiers become available?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Timothy Steele <
>>> timothy.pct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found a awesome inventory app for Android called WAMA but I've been
>>>> looking for a good multi user iOS app for months and have not found
>>>> anything dose anyone use a multi user iOS inventory app they recommend?
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Looking for a good iOS inventory app

[Timothy Steele]

For WAMA its wide open unlimited and free right now until out of beta it's
really awesome

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 11:07 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> when do the other tiers become available?
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I found a awesome inventory app for Android called WAMA but I've been
>> looking for a good multi user iOS app for months and have not found
>> anything dose anyone use a multi user iOS inventory app they recommend?
>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT Looking for a good iOS inventory app

[Timothy Steele]

I found a awesome inventory app for Android called WAMA but I've been
looking for a good multi user iOS app for months and have not found
anything dose anyone use a multi user iOS inventory app they recommend?

[AFMUG] ISP says don't pirate or we will mess with your nest

[Timothy Steele]

https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/05/pirates-risk-being-left-in-the-cold/


Taking things a bit too far..

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Timothy Steele]

Fine tip marker is really the best

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 8:53 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> For office/structure wiring, simple electrical wire number markers work
> fine. The kind you can get in booklets or on a dispenser like this:
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-wire-marker-tape-wdispenser-preprintd-std-0-9/i/G3472226/
> They're cheap enough to put two sets of numbers 3-5 feet apart at the ends
> in case you need to trim excess. Or one set and re-mark after you trim,
> punch down, terminate, whatever.
>
> I've had a Dymo 5200 for years now. It's great for tower cables, patch
> panels and all kinds of stuff. I put a "GPS" label on SyncPipes at sites
> using the vinyl industrial tape. Been there for years and none have faded
> or blown away. For cable labels, you want the 3/4" tape since it prints
> across the width. The problem I have with the shrink tube label is that we
> often mark what's what after we terminate and plug things in, so you'd need
> at least 1/2" to fit over an RJ45.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>
> For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what I use for my tower sites.
>> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in
>>
>>
>> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker
>>
>> It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it.
>> It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
>> weather so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
>>> through conduit at well sites
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a
 lot of running back and forth.

 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a 
> toner
> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as
> fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells
> you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is
> how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each
> end and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time
>> for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire 
>> for
>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat 
>> shrink
>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
>> necessary..
>>
>>
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>>
>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled 
>>> before
>>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going 
>>> to
>>> get cut 

Re: [AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore

[Timothy Steele]

https://www.acronis.com/en-us/lp/personal/semmob?cvosrc=ppc.google.acronis%20true%20image_campaign=905052710_crid=241247173177=e=mf=Cj0KCQiA9_LRBRDZARIsAAcLXjd4IPUPVI1JNz_aUDxrEVR__wQBrOO9eGAo-ThfySXtDUcdPoSi_ocaAqOXEALw_wcB

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 7:23 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Veeam?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:06:30 PM
>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Computer Image backup/restore
>
> Normally backups around here are file-based, I.E. I want to make sure I
> don't lose data.
>
> I have a couple of computers now which I really would hate to have to
> rebuild due to hardware failure.  These are generally computers which run a
> machine, such as the automatic test system and the pick and place machine.
>  These machines area all typically single-drive (non-mirrored) mostly off
> the shelf hardware running various versions of windows.   I'd like to take
> a full image, and have at least a reasonable chance of putting it back on
> similar hardware (probably same motherboard, maybe different storage
> medium) and it just work.
>
> It used to be that the tool for this was Norton Ghost.   But that's been
> discontinued (and I understand it was going downhill before that).  So I'm
> looking for whatever the current modern version is.
>
> I know there's a few tools out there which do this (Macrium, Acronis,
> etc).   But the reviews are all littered with failures.   Unfortunately
> it's hard to tell how much of this is lack of clue and how much of this is
> broken software.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has experience with using these modern
> equivalents?  Preferably something which runs on a range of Windows OS'es,
> and can dump the image onto NAS.
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android

[Timothy Steele]

Sumsung sux not Android if you get Android get a Nexus 5x or newer or a
pixel if you want a real Android due to crap companys like Samsung is why
Google had to start making there own phones

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017, 3:29 PM Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> Thank you all for your input.  Yes I agree that if you have an android
> make sure it is a pure android device, #saynotosamsung.  I have a decision
> to make and I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.
>
> Thanks Guys.
>
> Jason
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 Office
> 530-748-9608 Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Doug Hass  wrote:
>
> If I had an Android today, it would be a Pixel. I totally agree that stock
> Android is the way to go.
> El El lun, dic. 18, 2017 a las 12:21 p. m., Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> escribió:
>
>> I agree, I've had Nexus phones for a few years and now have a Pixel XL.
>> It's a great phone - the stock Android devices are a bit of a different
>> animal than the modified ones.
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2017, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I am about as much as an anti-apple fanboy as you can get.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure their products are good, but you must live in the little narrow
>>> space that they allow for you. Too restrictive for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> When people talk about "Android", they are often talking about someone's
>>> modified version of Android, the most prominent one being Samsung. Samsung
>>> phones are a very modified version of Android.
>>>
>>>
>>> We have been using Nexus phones (6P) for a couple of years now. They run
>>> pure Android, and they work very, very well.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/18/2017 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>> I can't imagine any scenario where I would give up Android for iPhone.
>>>
>>> Especially an IT person.
>>>
>>> Especially a radio person.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Jason Wilson" 
>>> 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 18, 2017 1:27:41 AM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: OT: IOS vs Android
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Convince me not to give up my Pixel XL for any version of an iPhone.
>>> All of my Computers are MacOS.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736> Office
>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] billing systems

[Timothy Steele]

UCRM from ubnt is free and getting very good

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017, 12:50 PM Layne Sisk  wrote:

> Their recent changes looks great!  I think you will like them.
>
>
>
> Layne Sisk
>
> ServerPlus
>
> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>
> [image: New logo xl] 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
> 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
> 
>
> [image: Utah 100]   [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000]
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:43 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing systems
>
>
>
> Thanks Layne.  We are moving forward with VISP.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Layne Sisk
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:28 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing systems
>
>
>
> If you are still looking for something hit me offlist.
>
>
>
> Layne Sisk
>
> ServerPlus
>
> 801.426.8283, ext 102
>
> [image: New logo xl] 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
> 
>
> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
> 
>
> [image: Utah 100]   [image: fast50-01][image: Inc 5000]
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] billing systems
>
>
>
> We just started deploying Wispmon because it used Mikrotik and supported
> HotSpots.  Now with Sonar, they don’t support Hot-Spots.  I’m told to call
> Brightwifi but my techs have talked to them several times and they keep
> getting told that other calls are coming in or someone is walking into a
> meeting within a minute or two and they never call back  Nothing personal
> but there is no way I’m deploying Bright WiFi if that’s how bad their
> customer service/presale support is and apparently they don’t need new
> customers.  It’s good to be busy, it’s bad to diss companies that are
> trying to give you business.
>
>
> So, we are ready to ditch Wispmon, have no interest in deploying Sonar
> since it doesn’t have the features we need, and find something that can use
> Mikrotik devices since we have so many egress points.   We already wrote
> one in house we deployed for MDU units so I’ll upgrade it if there isn’t a
> better product available.  However, if there is something else out there
> that can do WISP and Hot-Spots, I’d be very interested in looking at it
> immediately.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37 th
> Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> *“It’s not the team with the best players that win, it’s the players with
> the best team that wins!”* — Humphrey Bogart
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4 interfering with Dish satellite

[Timothy Steele]

The 450

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017, 11:38 AM Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

> I was wondering which signal was being killed.  The satellite or the 450.
>
> David Milholen wrote:
> >
> > What scenario would cause that using a 450 Mine is only 5 ft away with
> > no issues
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/2/2017 12:50 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:
> >>
> >> Not sure about ubnt about dish and even more so direct TV cambium
> >> 450's will mess with signal normally kills the radio​ signal first
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 1:09 PM Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> All of the old M series, 5GHz & 2.4GHz had an underclocked
> >> processor to avoid coming to close to the 2.4GHz frequency and
> >> causing interference to co-located 2.4GHz radios.  As it turns
> >> out, the third harmonic of the 2GHz frequency that they were
> >> underclocked to would interfere with Verizon's 700MHz LTE gear.
> >> So we have to run special (not underclocked) firmware on sites
> >> where we co-locate with Verizon.  None of the new radios made in
> >> the last few years have this issue, as they have a faster
> >> processor.  They really didn't need to underclock them anyway.
> >> We have 2.4GHz alongside of radios that had that special firmware
> >> and they were not affected at all.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, George Skorup
> >> <george.sko...@cbcast.com <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ethernet. Power it up, leave ethernet link down.
> >>
> >> Switching power supply. Try battery power only, leave
> >> ethernet link down.
> >>
> >> CPU/SoC. Pretty much the end of the road. I remember a thread
> >> from maybe a couple years ago where an UBNT radio was
> >> interfering with VzW's uplink. I think UBNT did a special
> >> firmware that changed the CPU freq. I don't remember which
> >> radio that was.
> >>
> >> I want to say the IF side of the Dish LNB can be between
> >> 500-2200MHz. The cables tied together is obviously not good.
> >>
> >> You're probably better off just moving your radio and cable
> >> to just be done with it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/1/2017 1:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >>
> >> Got a call from a guy in the field that says Dish moved
> >> their equipment behind our 2.4 Airgrid and whenever our
> >> radio is powered up the customer loses their high
> >> definition channels.  Our cable and theirs are tie
> >> wrapped together so I suggested that they power the radio
> >> with their survey rig to see if some kind of interference
> >> was involved. Any idea on what is causing this problem?
> >> Other suggestions besides moving our radio?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > <
> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient
> >
> >   Virus-free. www.avg.com
> > <
> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient
> >
> >
> >
> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 2.4 interfering with Dish satellite

[Timothy Steele]

Not sure about ubnt about dish and even more so direct TV cambium 450's
will mess with signal normally kills the radio​ signal first

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 1:09 PM Jeremy  wrote:

> All of the old M series, 5GHz & 2.4GHz had an underclocked processor to
> avoid coming to close to the 2.4GHz frequency and causing interference to
> co-located 2.4GHz radios.  As it turns out, the third harmonic of the 2GHz
> frequency that they were underclocked to would interfere with Verizon's
> 700MHz LTE gear.  So we have to run special (not underclocked) firmware on
> sites where we co-locate with Verizon.  None of the new radios made in the
> last few years have this issue, as they have a faster processor.  They
> really didn't need to underclock them anyway.  We have 2.4GHz alongside of
> radios that had that special firmware and they were not affected at all.
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:44 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Ethernet. Power it up, leave ethernet link down.
>>
>> Switching power supply. Try battery power only, leave ethernet link down.
>>
>> CPU/SoC. Pretty much the end of the road. I remember a thread from maybe
>> a couple years ago where an UBNT radio was interfering with VzW's uplink. I
>> think UBNT did a special firmware that changed the CPU freq. I don't
>> remember which radio that was.
>>
>> I want to say the IF side of the Dish LNB can be between 500-2200MHz. The
>> cables tied together is obviously not good.
>>
>> You're probably better off just moving your radio and cable to just be
>> done with it.
>>
>>
>> On 9/1/2017 1:05 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>
>>> Got a call from a guy in the field that says Dish moved their equipment
>>> behind our 2.4 Airgrid and whenever our radio is powered up the customer
>>> loses their high definition channels.  Our cable and theirs are tie wrapped
>>> together so I suggested that they power the radio with their survey rig to
>>> see if some kind of interference was involved.  Any idea on what is causing
>>> this problem?  Other suggestions besides moving our radio?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] campground wifi

[Timothy Steele]

Do all unifi with unifi mesh for your BH's use all switches unifi POE
Switches get a cloud key this way you will see graph data of 100% of the
network see how is having signal issues and what AP's are going down
captive portal and QOS all built in 100% Unifi with unifi controller is the
only way I would ever do a campground again when you mix other gear it it's
just a nightmare to maintain not even worth it

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017, 9:46 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Limit your datarates to 12Mb and above will shrink you cell size, but will
> keep your data rates sane. There's a lot of cool tweaks in UniFi these
> days. AirTime Fairness can help a lot as well.
>
> Meshv3 is on the horizon as an in-place upgrade to the existing hardware.
> Looks good so far.
>
> On Aug 14, 2017 10:57 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> We max out at 10Mbps.  In testing the Unifi mesh, we consistently saw
>> 18Mbps with 100 devices on 3 radios.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2017 6:40 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] campground wifi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> on average what speed service are you selling campgrounds?
>>
>> I'm assuming 100-250 campers during peak times
>>
>>
>>
> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:* Layne Sisk 
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2017 3:50 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] campground wifi
>>
>>
>>
>> We support several campgrounds and I know it is more expensive, but you
>> may want to at least consider Rukus gear.  It seems quite stable in the
>> environment.
>>
>> Layne Sisk
>> ServerPlus
>> 801.426.8283, ext 102 <(801)%20426-8283>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
>> Of Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:34 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] campground wifi
>>
>> Gotcha.
>>
>> Adam Moffett wrote:
>> > Yeah, Rockets and Nanobeams are 802.11n 802.11ac is totally a thing
>> > now.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> > -- Original Message --
>> > From: "Jay Weekley" 
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Sent: 8/14/2017 2:30:55 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] campground wifi
>> >
>>
>> >> 11ac?
>> >>
>> >> Adam Moffett wrote:
>> >>> If you're building new, why not 11ac instead of 11n?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -- Original Message --
>> >>> From: "Jay Weekley" 
>> >>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> >>> Sent: 8/14/2017 2:27:50 PM
>> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] campground wifi
>> >>>
>>  We're looking to upgrade the WiFi at some campgrounds and need
>>  suggestions.  Right now I'm thinking about a 5 GHz Rocket on an
>>  omni to a Nanobeam at each client access point.  I think we should
>>  offer connectivity to the campers in both 2.4 and 5 GHz.  What do
>>  you think?  Unifi?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ---
>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> >>> http://www.avg.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Public WifI protection

[Timothy Steele]

That data sync better be on a VPN and the guest Wifi better be on a Vlan
you can get them and you in a lot of trouble... OpenDNS is good anyone that
knows what there doing will get around Dns easy.. best way is to get real
personal data some how and show guest or atleast use the script that shows
them there location on the captive portal page to scare them a bit

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 1:14 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

> This is healthcare man. Mention hipaa ant the purse strings open. Mention
> it digitally, via email, and note that in the email. You'll be running l7
> filters right away, drop a bmu with a procera box with a 10 percent markup
>
> On Aug 9, 2017 12:30 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> If it's guest WiFi for people getting on Facebook/Instagram while sitting
>> in the waiting room, I would definitely start with OpenDNS.  Check all of
>> the things that need filtered out like porn, spyware, illegal stuff, etc.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>> We provide bandwidth to our local hospital and they use our connection
>>> for data sync offsite at night, but during the day it mostly serves their
>>> “Guest Wifi”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They have had some abuse (file sharing) to the point where we have been
>>> getting notices on it.   Looking for options. (simple).   Does a solution
>>> like OpenDNS work in the case of file sharing or is there stuff IP based
>>> (not using DNS)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is OpenDNS the best one to use ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>
>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800 <(772)%20564-6800>
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

[AFMUG] Best BPX to work with Unifi Phones

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone Working With Unifi Phones?

going to island of Palau to re do a network and VOIP System if they do not
get Bombed by north Korea first :( but anyway is there like a super simple
BPX out there to connect with unifi phones would only have 2 weeks to get
this all done soo looking for easy lol

[AFMUG] Vox calls on WISPs to partner with it

[Timothy Steele]

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/wireless/219318-vox-calls-on-wisps-to-partner-with-it.html

Re: [AFMUG] OT Productivity

[Timothy Steele]

If you have Google Assistant just day "ok Google add to my to-do list" I
don't know what you poor iPhone users stuck in dark ages will do.. might
download the Assistant app...

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017, 8:01 PM Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> >>Evernote works great.   For those Microsoft office users out there,
> OneNote is a really good app as well.
>
> Agreed BTW OneNote has been available for free for all users 
> For the longest time, it's been my favorite notepad jotter , especially
> with a Pen/Stylus.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"David Coudron" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, June 24, 2017 7:07:52 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Productivity
>
> Evernote works great.   For those Microsoft office users out there,
> OneNote is a really good app as well.  Does great with web clippings,
> pictures and general notes.   We use it to build a very simple
> knowledgebase for our folks as well as the searching is so good.   It also
> syncs to all platforms, which is one of the great features of Evernote.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> *David Coudron*
>
> david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  *Mobile: *612-991-7474
>
>
>
> *Advantenon, Inc.  *   [image: cid:image001.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]
>   [image:
> cid:image002.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]   
> [image:
> cid:image003.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0]   
> [image:
> cid:image004.png@01CEE562.60FF8FC0] 
>
> i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com  |  *Phone:* 800-704-4720  |  *Local: *
> 612-454-1545
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
> (List Account)
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2017 5:47 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Productivity
>
>
>
> Evernote.
>
>
>
> Definitely not even close to perfect, but it seems the most usable of any
> solution I've tried for this type of stuff, so it ends up being what I use
> the most.  I'd love to hear someone suggest something else better though...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> I'm not one for using productivity apps and methods.
>
> I do carry around a pen and notepad with me everywhere.
>
> But I'm finding that it's not easy to reference the crap load of notes and
> thoughts I put in these, then pile up in a corner when they fill up.
>
> So I'm thinking of doing SOMETHING to change the way my 'inputs' come in
> to me and get processed into actionable items.
>
> Over the years I've flirted with a number of apps/software packages and
> methodologies but nothing seems to stick with me.
>
> Now I'm set to make something work.
>
> I assume a lot of you are like me in this regard.
>
> Anyone find a solution/group of solutions that helped them organize and
> track progress on actionable items?
> Also recording and reference notes like topology drawings, meetings notes,
> switch port changes etc, lol!
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>
>   
>   
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List Tech Support

[Timothy Steele]

This mail list seems dead lately anyway.. might as well go to the official
sites now

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 2:40 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> One of my associates is subscribed to this list but doesn't receive any
> mail from it.  It's possible he had some mail server issues in the past
> which may have generated bounces or some other issue that could have
> resulted in getting flagged somehow.
>
> I'm wondering who I should ask about this.  Paul McCall?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi USG VPN

[Timothy Steele]

You need 5.5.x for anyone else needing VPN

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 8:34 AM Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wich one was it? I thought the final had it..
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 12:30 AM Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Found it. It just wasn't clear in the release notes.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
>> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm just fine with beta when it comes to UBNT. I've rarely had issues
>> with them.
>>
>> I don't see a beta version that has this feature though.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:01 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> GA is for squares. For over 5 years I've seen faster feature releases AND
>> bug fixes on beta. This is commonly the case on any modern software release.
>>
>> I guess that's fine if you're okay waiting 6 months to a year for feature
>> releases, but anymore most IT moves faster than that and it will cost you
>> competitive advantage in the market.
>>
>> When nervous, push to a pre-prod controller first.
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2017 9:56 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <
>> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Which version of controller? I'm using the latest GA release and it's
>>> not built in.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's built in to the controller software.
>>>
>>> - Josh
>>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2017 9:31 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <
>>> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The downside is that it requires radius. It would be nice if it had its
>>>> own built-in authentication. At least on the pro model. I don't want to
>>>> setup a radius server for small businesses to use VPN. If I have to setup
>>>> radius and there is no Domain controller, it's just easier and sometimes
>>>> cheaper to forward the ports to a Mac mini and have it serve strictly as
>>>> the VPN server.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>
>>>> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyone get remote user VPN working with full unifi setups and care to
>>>> share? I need to login as a local user and it looks like it finally
>>>> supports it in the GUI..
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi USG VPN

[Timothy Steele]

Wich one was it? I thought the final had it..

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 12:30 AM Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> Found it. It just wasn't clear in the release notes.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>
> I'm just fine with beta when it comes to UBNT. I've rarely had issues with
> them.
>
> I don't see a beta version that has this feature though.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:01 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> GA is for squares. For over 5 years I've seen faster feature releases AND
> bug fixes on beta. This is commonly the case on any modern software release.
>
> I guess that's fine if you're okay waiting 6 months to a year for feature
> releases, but anymore most IT moves faster than that and it will cost you
> competitive advantage in the market.
>
> When nervous, push to a pre-prod controller first.
>
> - Josh
>
> On Jun 20, 2017 9:56 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Which version of controller? I'm using the latest GA release and it's not
>> built in.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's built in to the controller software.
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2017 9:31 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <
>> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The downside is that it requires radius. It would be nice if it had its
>>> own built-in authentication. At least on the pro model. I don't want to
>>> setup a radius server for small businesses to use VPN. If I have to setup
>>> radius and there is no Domain controller, it's just easier and sometimes
>>> cheaper to forward the ports to a Mac mini and have it serve strictly as
>>> the VPN server.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> > On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Anyone get remote user VPN working with full unifi setups and care to
>>> share? I need to login as a local user and it looks like it finally
>>> supports it in the GUI..
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>

[AFMUG] Unifi USG VPN

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone get remote user VPN working with full unifi setups and care to
share? I need to login as a local user and it looks like it finally
supports it in the GUI..

Re: [AFMUG] Best Home Wifi Router

[Timothy Steele]

Unifi is by far the best in home systems for the bigger houses with a
cloudkey you have full remote admin controls too it's been awesome

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 3:09 PM Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Yes.
>
> If it's a multi-story house, putting the wireless router in the middle of
> the house is better most of the time.
>
> I like wireless routers with antennas that are external and can be
> arranged like TV antennas of old.
>
> Not sure what the state of Mesh/Handoff is on Mikrotik these days, but you
> could try placing a router in the wiring area/closet, then an AP on an
> Ethernet extension.
>
> I've got a lot of opinions about this subject.
>
> My current home router solution is Amplifi, but not the wireless mesh
> system, the newer boxed set with three box like units where one is the
> router and the other two are wired to other parts of my house.
>
> It works better that way.
>
> I've also used the top of the line Asus mothership and Netgear Nighthawk
> mothership from a year or so ago.
>
> They work well, even from my rambler basement under metal, but there were
> still dead spots on the other side of the house through solid concrete etc.
>
> They had the advantage of not having to use a handoff between wireless
> antennas.
>
> But they still had moments of re-attachment to wireless and odd random
> streaming problems.
>
> And their software and phone apps sucked ass.
>
> Amplifi has a much simpler set of configs and their app is great.
> I would like to see them expand a bit in an expert/advanced mode so I can
> control a bit more.
>
> I would also like to see them incorporate some of their device stats
> functionality from their enterprise line, but that's just me wishing for a
> Ferrari while paying for a Tesla.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:56 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Best Home Wifi Router
>
> We have used both the RB951Ui-2HnD and RB952Ui-5ac2nD on occasions when we
> provided a managed router but was wandering if the more expensive
> RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN with actual antennas performed much better?  Have
> customers blame us when there wifi does not reach everywhere in there house.
>
> Is placing the router in the basement of a wood frame house going to
> drastically reduce range?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Testing

[Timothy Steele]

I'll get the conversations going again.. UBNT now has working sync R.I.P
Cambium

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 11:43 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> ssshhh..children sleeping
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> Just overly quiet.
>>
>> Jerry Head wrote:
>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> On 6/19/2017 10:18 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>
 Is this thing on?

>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> http://www.avg.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LTE router used to reboot and provide 2nd path

[Timothy Steele]

Look into project Fi data only SIM you will only pay by data used instead
of monthly

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 12:46 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Fully operational...
>
> On Jun 13, 2017 5:15 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Set up a little lab on my desk to configure and test Cradlepoint IBR-600,
>> Tough switch Pro 8, IQ Boot device and Cisco POE switch...this gear going
>> into secure server room where once installed will be difficult to
>> physically access,  so I will now have main Internet feed and LTE router
>> feed for remote off site access plus WiFi for access from outside room.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages

[Timothy Steele]

If you do make sure your installers don't know who it is that can be really
offensive if you pick the wrong guy

On Thu, May 18, 2017, 1:54 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Do you have someone go out to each site to make sure things were done
> right?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages
>
>
>
> You may want to consider bonuses.  Instead of giving a Hourly Rate
> increase we started giving a successful install bonus.
>
> Each installer gets a bonus for his successful installs.  Must be to our
> specifications.
>
> Front office gets a bonus based on all successful installs per week.
>
> Bonuses are paid two weeks after the install, this gives time to check
> specs and ensure no complaints.
>
>
>
> All staff know that if the company was to shrink (hope not), bonuses could
> be reduced or go away.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:48 AM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 2017 Hourly / Salary Wages
>
>
>
> Just sitting here thinking about raises...
>
>
>
> For those of you with employees, care to share what you pay for:
>
>
>
> Office support staff-
>
> Field installers / repair tech -
>
> Tower tech -
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131   *
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> VIA WIRELESS
>

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

[Timothy Steele]

I've had a few of the jobs listed yes we had to hustle but even when I was
in fast food I never had a boss disrespectful enough to have the nerve and
say don't walk run is all I'm saying respect go's both ways with employees
and employer you treat them like crap they treat you like crap that was the
only point I was trying to make go ahead and take offense to that if you
want but truth is truth I'm just the only 1 willing to say it because​ I
don't need this list anyway it's just fun watching you all go crazy

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017, 11:06 PM Jerry Head <li...@blountbroadband.com> wrote:

> Absolutely in 8 of those jobsif I were working hard already.
>
>
>
> On 4/24/2017 9:46 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Can you imagine telling your employer to fuck off (when asked to hustle)
> in the following jobs?
> Soldier
> Life Guard
> Fireman
> EMT
> Cop
> Airline baggage loader, unloader
> Airline fuel line operator
> Personal Trainer
> Flat Rate Roofer
> Athlete
> ER Nurse
> Fast Food worker during lunch
> Package sorter/truck loader UPS (I had this job once)
> Ranch hand staking hay.
> Subway sandwich maker during lunch.
> Meat cutter.
>
> I could be here all day listing jobs that require you to jog/hustle/run.
>
> I do not think it is in any way unreasonable to ask an installer to have
> some spring in their step.
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 8:31 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
> Not saying to rush for the sake of rushing, saying to go fast.  Do things
> perfectly in the least amount of time possible.  That means hustle.  Why
> would you chose to slowly drag your ass between the truck and the house?
> There is absolutely no justification for not jogging back and forth.  Not
> saying to sprint or full on run.  Just jog, show some hustle.  Economy of
> movements.  That includes tool and supply organization.
>
> At the end of the day it is now many perfect installs you do a day.  If
> you get more than the other guy and you drag your ass, I would not can you,
> probably give you a raise.
>
> But if you were dragging your ass, leaving the shop late, BSing instead of
> working I would tell you to ‘hustle” one time...
>
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 8:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
> To tell the truth, I'd be telling you to fuck off as well.
>
> Having an employee run is a liability for several reasons. Rushing leads
> to forgotten things and shoddy work, and tying installs to pay with cause
> you to end up with the install quality that DirecTV subcontractors do, as
> they get paid per room/job as well. It's absolutely shit work that looks
> bad and often has problems you will have to roll a truck for.
>
> Slow and smooth, measured work, thought out in advance with no wasted
> efficiency. THAT will be fast and quality work.
>
> "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast."
>
> In the end, it's your business. I'm just some guy.
>
> - Josh
>
> On Apr 24, 2017 8:57 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Well then you would not be working for me.  Or UPS or FedEX or Les Schwab
> or Tunex or ..
>
> Treating someone like crap is a far different thing than treating them
> like an adult.  You own their work output when they are on the clock and
> they need to work efficiently.
>
> It is not unreasonable at all to expect some hustle.  I don’t pay anyone
> to take their time.
>
>
> *From:* Timothy Steele
> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 7:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
> If you treat your employees like crap like that there going to start
> looking for a new boss I know if I was walking to the house and you told me
> to run I would quit on the spot if that's what you want then go for it
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 9:43 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> You cannot expect a younger person to run for any reason until they decide
>> that it might benefit them, and even them real hustle will be rare.
>>
>> I would put them on piece rate or daily rate and tell them they have to
>> do at least 3 per day to keep their job.  Once they are doing 3, then up it
>> to 4 or keep them on piece rate.
>>
>> Have you actually said “RUN!” when they were walking from truck to
>> house?  Have them watch the first half of full metal jacket and give them a
>> bit of drill sergeant treatment.
>>
>> I believe in “management by telling”  you actually have to tell them, in
>> simple and clear terms exa

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

[Timothy Steele]

If you treat your employees like crap like that there going to start
looking for a new boss I know if I was walking to the house and you told me
to run I would quit on the spot if that's what you want then go for it

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 9:43 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> You cannot expect a younger person to run for any reason until they decide
> that it might benefit them, and even them real hustle will be rare.
>
> I would put them on piece rate or daily rate and tell them they have to do
> at least 3 per day to keep their job.  Once they are doing 3, then up it to
> 4 or keep them on piece rate.
>
> Have you actually said “RUN!” when they were walking from truck to house?
> Have them watch the first half of full metal jacket and give them a bit of
> drill sergeant treatment.
>
> I believe in “management by telling”  you actually have to tell them, in
> simple and clear terms exactly what you want.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
> I was going to type a long PC type post about this (which I did anyway
> sorry) . But instead I am going to just ask how you guys go about trying to
> teach / train a new installer to work faster?
>
>
>
> We have a guy right now that was hired to be an installer with other
> duties as assigned. He is good at the other duties and has a good
> understanding of networking, computers and even RF. The problem is that he
> is very slow on installs and the primary job he was hired to do.
>
>
>
> I spent quite a bit of time with him last week trying to figure out where
> the speed issues were coming from. So I took him on site surveys ahead of
> time with me and we laid out the entire installs during the survey. Install
> here, wire down here, across here in through wall here and terminate. You
> could see the tower from these sites so hanging and tuning the radio was a
> breeze.
>
>
>
> I sent him out on two installs the day after that. First one I considered
> a hard install. The second one easy.  They took him over  10 hours not
> counting drive time.
>
>
>
> I spent the next morning doing site checks on them with the customers
> permission. Both customers were happy with him and his install and not a
> single thing on the install was done incorrectly I took another installer
> with me and asked him to run the time frame in his head. He came up to 3
> hours for each install. So had I but we are both experienced.
>
>
>
> So I talked really briefly with the new guy about getting faster and then
> took him to an install I had surveyed myself. Ran him through the entire
> install. Radio here, wire down here….. in and terminate. Install router. I
> left the more experienced guy with him to answer questions but told him to
> not physically help and explained to the new guy that if he had questions
> to ask because the other guy is there to help him figure out a faster
> process and  would be talking with me after the install about ways to speed
> up the process so we can help him. I should mention the experienced guy is
> a supervisor so no hard feelings should be had here. I left him at 9:00
>
>
>
> I was thinking that maybe I was being unrealistic in my time frames on
> installs since normally I have a helper on my installs and we knock out
> three to four a day. I felt like I got my installs done in 3 hours max when
> I was alone but never really timed them. So when I left the new guy I drove
> a half hour to what I considered a hard install and did it alone. Was done
> at 12:30 and driving back to check on the new guy.  When I got there he was
> just about done with the install but the truck was spread around the
> driveway ( not throwing stones I have been known to do this). So he was
> going past hour 4 at this point with paperwork and packing the truck he was
> going to be at 5 for sure.  I stepped in did the paperwork and quietly
> asked the other guy to pack up the truck some.  This was done for selfish
> reasons ( its Friday and I have a family) and also because we had a
> between 1 and 3 to hit for the final install of the day.
>
>
>
> Grabbed subway. Scoffed it down. I bought and we headed to the last job.
>
>
>
> I had the supervisor guy in my truck and we have worked together a lot
> 100s of installs together. So on the way to the install which he had never
> seen I prep him on it. Big ladder ( 32”) up on the gable on the back of the
> house.  Take the little giant around to the deck so I can access the roof.
> And it’s a tripod install. So when we pull into the drive I point to the
> back of the house “that’s the back” he says okay and I go to ring the
> doorbell and say hello.  He has the new guy with him so he told him to help
> with the ladder and then instructed him to start an rj45 on a wire. When I
> walked out the ladder was up and the supervisor was at the top screwing
> down the tripod. I grabbed the mast, mounted the antenna and 

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

[Timothy Steele]

When you are new getting a good process of running the install in your head
how to deal with stupid Netgear router that lie and say they have no
internet and trying to figure out why it's slow when you are done and
figuring out you had a wire crossed all that adds a lot of time to a
install when you first start you really would have to work with the guy and
judge him by his attitude is he wanting to find better ways to get done
faster?, or is he stuck in his own ways?. Or is he just milking the jobs
because he needs over time?? Without meeting the guy none of us can give
you any real help

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017, 7:54 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
wrote:

> I am in the exact same boat. New guy is slow as cold molasses.
>
> My installs are normally 2 hours. Maybe 3.
> His are 4 or 5.  So his days are 10 hours (yay overtime).
>
> When we work together, it seems that he just has his head up his butt and
> doesn't realize what step comes next.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jim
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Brandon Yuchasz 
> Date: 4/23/17 6:37 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
> I was going to type a long PC type post about this (which I did anyway
> sorry) . But instead I am going to just ask how you guys go about trying to
> teach / train a new installer to work faster?
>
>
>
> We have a guy right now that was hired to be an installer with other
> duties as assigned. He is good at the other duties and has a good
> understanding of networking, computers and even RF. The problem is that he
> is very slow on installs and the primary job he was hired to do.
>
>
>
> I spent quite a bit of time with him last week trying to figure out where
> the speed issues were coming from. So I took him on site surveys ahead of
> time with me and we laid out the entire installs during the survey. Install
> here, wire down here, across here in through wall here and terminate. You
> could see the tower from these sites so hanging and tuning the radio was a
> breeze.
>
>
>
> I sent him out on two installs the day after that. First one I considered
> a hard install. The second one easy.  They took him over  10 hours not
> counting drive time.
>
>
>
> I spent the next morning doing site checks on them with the customers
> permission. Both customers were happy with him and his install and not a
> single thing on the install was done incorrectly I took another installer
> with me and asked him to run the time frame in his head. He came up to 3
> hours for each install. So had I but we are both experienced.
>
>
>
> So I talked really briefly with the new guy about getting faster and then
> took him to an install I had surveyed myself. Ran him through the entire
> install. Radio here, wire down here….. in and terminate. Install router. I
> left the more experienced guy with him to answer questions but told him to
> not physically help and explained to the new guy that if he had questions
> to ask because the other guy is there to help him figure out a faster
> process and  would be talking with me after the install about ways to speed
> up the process so we can help him. I should mention the experienced guy is
> a supervisor so no hard feelings should be had here. I left him at 9:00
>
>
>
> I was thinking that maybe I was being unrealistic in my time frames on
> installs since normally I have a helper on my installs and we knock out
> three to four a day. I felt like I got my installs done in 3 hours max when
> I was alone but never really timed them. So when I left the new guy I drove
> a half hour to what I considered a hard install and did it alone. Was done
> at 12:30 and driving back to check on the new guy.  When I got there he was
> just about done with the install but the truck was spread around the
> driveway ( not throwing stones I have been known to do this). So he was
> going past hour 4 at this point with paperwork and packing the truck he was
> going to be at 5 for sure.  I stepped in did the paperwork and quietly
> asked the other guy to pack up the truck some.  This was done for selfish
> reasons ( its Friday and I have a family) and also because we had a
> between 1 and 3 to hit for the final install of the day.
>
>
>
> Grabbed subway. Scoffed it down. I bought and we headed to the last job.
>
>
>
> I had the supervisor guy in my truck and we have worked together a lot
> 100s of installs together. So on the way to the install which he had never
> seen I prep him on it. Big ladder ( 32”) up on the gable on the back of the
> house.  Take the little giant around to the deck so I can access the roof.
> And it’s a tripod install. So when we pull into the drive I point to the
> back of the house “that’s the back” he says okay and I go to ring the
> doorbell and say hello.  He has the new guy with him so he told him to help
> with the ladder and then 

Re: [AFMUG] CISCO VLAN question

[Timothy Steele]

All you Cisco lovers will hate me but just get a unfi setup what you are
doing would literally be like 5 clicks and done

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 12:38 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> VLAN is 1998 - wow!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Dave  wrote:
>
> Yes..
>  I come from the 1990 era of Cisco LOL
>
>
>
> On 04/07/2017 10:29 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
>
> switchport trunk native vlan sounds like what you’re after?
> It’ll pass an untagged vlan across a trunk port.
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Dave   
> wrote:
>
> Ok,
> So I want to manage my radio link and provide public access over that link.
> How do I configure my Cisco for switchport trunk to allow the customer to 
> connect at the other end with a sonicwall for his public ip?
> So the topology of this is
> Vlan 1000 is a managed vlan
> Vlan 2400 is the public access vlan
> Cisco port is mode trunk dot1q to allow both vlans but since the customer 
> dont have a vlan to configure on his sonic wall I would need my radios to 
> allow
> switchport access of 2400
>
> Is there a way to tell the cisco to allow switchport access for vlan2400 on 
> the same trunked port?
>
> Any ideas will be helpful
>
> Thanks
> Dave
>
> --
> 
>
>
> --
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper

[Timothy Steele]

Better hurry up and get wireless to all the dialup customers...

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 8:55 AM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

>
> *AT Wants Out of Maintaining Landlines in Illinois*
> Telecom giant AT is asking for Illinois’ permission to scrap
> requirements that the company maintain land-based phone lines, according to
> the* Rock River Times*.
>
> A recent survey said only four percent of people in Illinois still rely
> solely on landlines. AT has to obtain consent from state legislatures
> before they can petition the FCC to be allowed to cut off the thousands of
> miles of land-based phone lines. Other states want this option as well, so
> the FCC has a vote planned this month by the U.S. Senate to accomplish
> this. In 2015, the Ohio state legislature voted to allow basic landline
> services to be withdrawn by the major telecom companies.  (*see story
> above*)
>
> “It’s taking a large investment that could be spent covering the vast
> majority of their customers for wireless or IP-based phone services,” Brent
> Skorup, Technology Fellow with the Mercatus Center told the *Rock River
> Times*.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I'm looking for an app

[Timothy Steele]

Survey monkey and change.org only 2 I know of

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017, 12:06 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:


i knew there were thousands, i was just hoping one was "more mainstream" or
more used than most

groupio  comes to mind - for conferences.  i would have never known it
existed if i hadn't been to WISPA shows.

So - this is for our radio station.
We're planning a regional "Battle of the Bands" and want to give all of the
attendees an opportunity to vote on their
favorite band from a mobile app.



- Original Message -
*From:* Bill Prince 
*To:* af@afmug.com

*Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:57 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: I'm looking for an app

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=survey=en

bp



On 4/1/2017 8:38 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
I'm looking for an app that anyone who downloads it can participate in a
vote.
Could be as many as 1000 people.
I'd prefer only one vote be allowed per phone number / account
�
Suggestions?
�
�

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 termination question

[Timothy Steele]

Are you like inside the Rj-45 or are you not putting the jacket in the
Rj-45? Inside the end you want them apart intact if you get cat6 ends they
will come with divider's that will keep the cables farther apart

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 8:15 AM Paul McCall  wrote:

> If you strip back the insulation, shielding, drain wire etc. from a Cat5
> cable a few inches, but keep the 4 twists in place up until the connector
> (like normal), but the 4 pairs are loose from each other, does that affect
> data flow?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Want to keep track of your employees

[Timothy Steele]

This is old Google tech from 2009 released, the big deal everyone is making
about it is just funny

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 10:09 AM Rory Conaway  wrote:

>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/google-location-sharing-maps-are-just-like-latitude-2017-3
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist,
> half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it
> needs to be”
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?

[Timothy Steele]

Gen 2 AC shipping beta right now

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, 1:38 PM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>
> Self driving cars.  q3 2017
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Langeler
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti news?
>
> Anything new announced with ETA??
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Odd Nanobridge problem

[Timothy Steele]

Sounds like ether you got water in the cable during the storm or ESD hit
the Ethernet port and you only are seeing errors due to packet loss will
only show up if you try and pass more then 10Mbps

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, 9:22 AM Jay Weekley  wrote:

> We have a 5.7 Nanobridge acting as an AP that serves two tower sites
> that are close together.  After a storm yesterday we started getting a
> lot of packet loss when pinging the AP.   We can disconnect either of
> the SMs and the remaining tower works fine and there is no packet loss
> to the AP but when we turn both sites back on the packet loss returns.
> There is also a Netonix switch at the tower that has the 5.7 Nanobridge
> acting as the AP and it's cable diagnostics tool shows a problem on pins
> 5, 6, 7 and 8 though the AP is powered up. Both these sites are slated
> for upgrades to Ubiquiti AC gear but the logistics will make it
> difficult this week.
>

[AFMUG] Ubnt distro cheaper then Amazon prime

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone know of UBNT distributors that can beat Amazon prime prices?

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do internet over existing rg-6 cable

[Timothy Steele]

http://www.zyxel.com/us/en/products_services/hla3105.shtml?t=p

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, 12:08 PM Keefe John  wrote:

> Looks like that thing was built in the 90s.
>
> On 2/22/2017 10:15 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> http://www.c9networks.com/
>
> Full Docsis setup.  Then just throw cable modems on the end.
>
> On 2/22/2017 10:09 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> MOCA adapters and then any switch you want.
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] does anyone make a system that lets you do internet
> over existing rg-6 cable
>
>
> I’m looking for similar like a centralized coax switch to do an apartment
> instead of recabling.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> * www.triadwireless.net
> *
>
>
>
> “The successful man is the one who finds out what is the matter with his
> business before his competitors do.” - Roy L. Smith
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for Comprehensive Timeclock Software

[Timothy Steele]

Try Tsheets Uattend is the worst

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017, 12:06 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I use Timeforce.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 9:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for Comprehensive Timeclock Software
>
> I see Timeforce all over the place, in every industry we work with. Either
> its really good and versatile or there is a regional sales rep in this area
> who has been living on red bull and cocaine for the last decade
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> My company currently uses uAttend for tracking time for all of our
> employees (office personnel, field technicians, tower technicians, etc),
> and we have come across a couple of glaring problems that it has. It is
> very difficult (pretty much impossible) to track time for specific projects
> that are done, and our employees cannot look at how much PTO time they have
> available. We are otherwise pretty happy with this software (the phone app
> is great for clocking in/out of jobs, and it tracks regular time/overtime
> well).
>
>
>
> Has anyone else on this list come across a better piece of software that
> could help to accomplish these tasks?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] American tower

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone have a contact for American tower that accurately answers the phone?

[AFMUG] Knoxville TN tower source

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone have a good source for buying towers near Knoxville TN?

Thanks,

[AFMUG] Sonos and edgerouter

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone know how to get Sonos to work with edgeOS edgerouter?

Thanks,

[AFMUG] WISP head end laws for TN?

[Timothy Steele]

So the west side of Knoxville has no internet and it's full of multi
million dollar houses that are already clients begging for service so I'm
getting dragged back into the wisp world..

I really just need to know the head end laws for taxes, did I hear wisps
have to register as a clec now?. And what is that form called you need to
fill out with the coverage area?

Thanks,

Re: [AFMUG] Scheduling software for home automation

[Timothy Steele]

Thanks Simon! Vworkapp is exactly what I was looking for just wish it was a
local company

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017, 1:58 PM Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> wrote:

> There's tons, just search for 'field scheduling software' and you'll get a
> bunch. I've looked at:
>
> http://www.fieldtechnologies.com/
> https://www.vworkapp.com/
> http://www.msidata.com/field-service-scheduling-software
> http://www.serviceceo.com/
>
> vWorkApp has given me a lot of inspiration in the past.
>
>
> On 2/1/2017 12:39 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a scheduling software that's like powercode but not for
> monthly clients? I work for a home automation company big need for
> something like that, but it's not monthly service when it's done. it's
> done.
>
> If anyone knows of something like that
> Or willing to make 1 for us please let me know
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Providing Service at Different Rates / in Different Markets

[Timothy Steele]

Enter zip code or town is already a widely accepted way of doing this, I
would really just do that.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017, 1:37 PM Sterling Jacobson  wrote:

> Ugh, that is difficult.
>
>
>
> If it were me, at the very least I would just make a pricing page online
> and spell it all out for each ‘area’.
>
>
>
> If you want to be more discreet you could just advertise the lowest priced
> rate/plan and say there are higher speed options to contact you.
>
>
>
> The fancy way would be for them to fill out a form and get an immediate
> response via email or online as to their rate plans per the area.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Gray
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:28 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Providing Service at Different Rates / in Different
> Markets
>
>
>
> How do others handle providing service in different markets at different
> rates?
>
>
>
> As I've expanded into different areas, I've found I need to charge
> significantly different rates and have to provide different speeds. I
> adjusted my website to say things like: "...up to" and "...starting at
> $...".  It feels a bit misleading. I want to be clear without publishing
> every single service option.
>
>
>
> I'd like some suggestions for more appropriately treating the different
> areas. Perhaps entering a zipcode or town to see price options?
>
>
>
> Thank you - Chris
>

[AFMUG] Scheduling software for home automation

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone know of a scheduling software that's like powercode but not for
monthly clients? I work for a home automation company big need for
something like that, but it's not monthly service when it's done. it's done.

If anyone knows of something like that
Or willing to make 1 for us please let me know


Thanks!

Re: [AFMUG] Managed routers for customers

[Timothy Steele]

All the best long range routers are a base unit with 2 range extender's
issues I've seen with over powered routers like the nighthawk is when
customer is next to the router the signal can get way too hot and the
customer will think the internet is dropping really the best solution is a
cambium router and buy 2 range extenders and up sell it as the ultimate
range or something like that

I have also had good success putting a NanoM2 in router mode and making it
the wifi router you can manage it and it has crazy range but dose not look
very nice

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017, 5:43 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Managing said router is a good upsell and helps your customer's experience
> with your service.
>
> I've seen people charge between $4-$12/mo for this service.
>
> Basically, you're responsible for: firmware upgrades, port forwards, vpns,
> telling them their wireless password, etc.
>
> Not only does it help keep your network secure, but it keeps your
> customers happy and can be quite profitable.
>
> On Jan 16, 2017 11:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> define "managed"  - clearly
> we drop an air router (ubnt) with a DMZ and no upnp
> thats free, anything else, get your own
> business, we will sell you a Fortigate
> residential, we dont se a market with a cost that is capturable for any
> feature
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Josh Corson 
> wrote:
>
> I found my answers in previous threads. Thank you
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Josh Corson 
> wrote:
>
> What's the price on a 844E?
> Vendor?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Yeah the cloud software is what makes calix awesome.
>
> The hardware is high end 802.11ac gear.
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:58 PM David Kunat  wrote:
>
> Do you use their cloud management with the 844E?
>
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Calix 844E
>
>
> - Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:28 PM Josh Corson 
> wrote:
>
> What does everyone use/offer for managed customer routers?
>
>
>
> We use the Cambium R200P router currently, however we are looking for
>
> one with better wireless range. In general circumstances the router
>
> works fine, but we are looking for a good all in one, manageable
>
> router with excellent range - and maybe dual band (I know the R201P
>
> exists). The R200P seems pricey for simply single band 2.4ghz.
>
>
>
> Not too hung up on the ability to power the CPE through the router.
>
> Poe bricks are fine.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Direct attach sfp cables?

[Timothy Steele]

Don't think fiber light has a frequency unless you are doing RoF
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_over_fiber

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017, 9:29 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> The ones I've used are thinner than ToughCable, probably thinner than the
> cat6 I used in my house. Maybe not much thicker than a sturdy USB cord.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2017 8:17:03 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Direct attach sfp cables?
>
> They are also thicker than the cat6a I had, with less flexibility :(
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2017 8:00 PM, "Josh Baird"  wrote:
>
> Maybe you need better cable management or you are using super thick DACs?
> They are obviously going to be thicker than individual strands of fiber.
>
> We regularly terminate 2 racks of dual homed servers in one cabinet using
> nothing but DACs.
>
> On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Yes they are cheap, but they have less of a bend radius than modern fiber,
> they don't provide electrical isolation, and they are an absolute bitch
> when it comes to cable management.
>
> I thought it would be a great idea to put a couple hundred DAC'd ports in
> a rack. Terrible idea. Never again.
>
> DACs you say? *Spits on ground*
>
> On Jan 15, 2017 7:46 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:
>
> On 1/15/17 5:02 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> What's the purpose? Seems like it would pretty much always be better to
> just use fiber...
>
>
>
> Super cost effective way to connect a rack full of servers to a TOR 10G
> switch.
>
> ~Seth
>
>

[AFMUG] Advanced cat5 cable tester at affordable price

[Timothy Steele]

Came across this smartphone powered cat5 tester looks really cool

http://pockethernet.com/#features

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Multipoint w/ sfp?

[Timothy Steele]

Airfiber LTU will.. no ETA though...

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017, 10:16 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 1/5/17 7:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > Seriously?
> >
>
>
> Can't have everything.
>
> ~Seth
>

[AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

[Timothy Steele]

http://www.antennasonline.com/main/news/infinite-electronics-acquires-kp-performance-antennas/

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

[Timothy Steele]

The 450d is better with a dish there is a little RF that falls off the back
of a reflector dish with the 450d being inner feed you get rid of that
issue resulting in much better performance even if you swap a dish for a
450d and signal stays the same you will still see better link caps from the
450d I have noticed

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, 2:26 PM Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
wrote:

> 40 Mbps key with the latest firmware...for the 20 Meg price.  I have a
> number of Cambium customer's that have settled on the 450d as their primary
> SM of choice.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> I've heard some reports that there's a 1-3 dbi difference between one and
> the other.  I think it's the same in the grand scheme of things.
>
> The biggest thing is the 450d comes with a better license.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:
>
> I have not bought PMP450 SMs in some time.. we had a stock of PMP450 SMs
> w/ RCL-2 dishes.. We estimated an overall system gain of 25 dbi.
>
>
>
> The PMP450d spec sheet indicates 25 dbi as well.
>
>
>
> Has anyone compared the PMP450+RCL-2 with a PMP450d and can quickly
> comment on gain differences.
>
>
>
> Also am I correct in that PMP450d has a better processor than the original
> PMP450 SMs?
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*
>
> www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614>
> Mobile: 510-207- <(510)%20207->
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP dropping Ethernet in cold weather

[Timothy Steele]

Are you sure it's the cold and not water from the ICE getting into that
cable or you cable is longer then 300ft?

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016, 12:52 PM George Skorup  wrote:

> Yes, the FPGA memory controller problem. We had tons of issues with that.
> But it didn't seem to do anything with the ethernet. Mostly sync and
> registration issues. But if the memory contents are unstable, I guess
> anything can happen. I remember telling Aaron we had the most problems
> right after the sun went down and then sometimes just after the sun came
> up. It has to be temperature related! Sure nuf.
>
> 13.2.1 and earlier has the broken FPGA image. OK, not broken, but not able
> to handle the insanity. Use 14.1.2 or 14.2.1/15.0.1.
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 10:39 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>
> There was a issue with 450’s rebooting in cold weather that was addressed
> in recent software versions.   If  you are not running current software I
> would start looking at the release notes to figure out where you need to
> be.
>
> The issue I believe was traced to a hard to locate instability in the
> internal logic power supply when the CPU load changed that manifested only
> under low temperatures.   Cambium was able to reproduce it reliably in
> extreme cold testing (like -40C) but it was still a very difficult item to
> track down.
>
>
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> Luckey, OH 43443
> 419-837-5015 x1021
> 419-261-5996 (cell)
> m...@amplex.net
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Have you checked the AP log to make sure it isn’t doing watchdog resets or
> something?  There have been a couple temperature related problems on 450.
> One was the ADI Communication Failure problem, AFAIK that was only SMs.
> Also there’s the memory controller issue, I think that’s at high
> temperatures though, just the same I would make sure you are at 14.1.2 or
> higher FW version.
>
> Some people have reported water intrusion on 450 APs.  I guess if it has
> water in the bottom which froze, that could do bad things.  You say that
> you swapped cables though, so apparently the RJ45 isn’t frozen into a block
> of ice.
>
> You really should have a spare AP on hand.  If nothing else, you  could
> buy a Lite AP, and buy an upgrade key if you actually use it and need >10
> subs.  I hate buying APs used, you don’t know its history, and you  can’t
> RMA it.  It’s like a refurb laptop, you don’t know why the first buyer
> returned it to the store, did they just not like it, or did it have an
> intermittent defect?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2016 10:04 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP dropping Ethernet in cold weather
>
> new AP is on order, if I recall I think that this unit showing problems
> was purchased on EBAY so I am wondering if there was a reason this unit was
> on Ebay in the first place.
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:59 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> wrap the whole radio and antenna in aluminum foil to keep the heat in.
>
> seriously though, do you give subscribers any access to the units? If so,
> I wonder if having them run a bunch of link speedtests could generate
> enough processing to warm the unit
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
> Seems that the colder it is the more frequent the flapping is. I doubt its
> the RJ45 ends since I tried a different cable run on the tower and still
> showing the same issue.
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:42 AM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> I would try new RJ45s on both ends. If that's not it, then swap it and RMA
> if it's still under warranty.
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 9:35 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
> I have a 3.65ghz 450 AP that was running flawless for over 6 months until
> we got our first really cold spell last week, temps dropped to near 0
> degrees a couple nights back to back and when I woke up one morning the AP
> was dropping offline. Logged into the Mikrotik 2011 and it showed Ethernet
> was flapping. (was originally going through a Sync Injector). I had an old
> FSK AP going through the same sync injector and wasn't showing any
> problems. I tried switching the ports on the sync injector, changed ports
> on RB2011, eliminated sync injector and used a standard Canopy SM power
> supply. Finally I even switched the known good Ethernet cable from the FSK
> AP to the 450 and the port is still flapping. Won't lock to 10-baseT
> either. I am thinking at this point that I am going to have to replace the
> AP.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] wisp hanging on by a thread

[Timothy Steele]

If you provide them with a temp low speed connections to get them by you
keep the customers having faith in WISP's and customers to buy cheap. or if
you don't do it anyone that can get cable or DSL will likely just do that
and anyone that can't will be calling you and you get free customers that
way really depends on the impression you get from the current owners to
decide if you want to help or not but I would make them sign something
saying all your time and effort will be paid for or price taken off the
sale price

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 5:55 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> Having done this before in less severe circumstances I wouldn't do it
> again. I think if you could run over there, stack equipment, sign a one
> year upstream circuit to make it quicker setup, then advertise you would be
> way ahead.
>
> My acquisition was a huge distraction from my internal growth.
>
> If you buy them their customers won't give a damn about be grateful. They
> will golf you responsible add if you ate the one that drove them under in
> the first place. Either run away or stomp them out of existence. Don't buy
> their troubles.
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 4:20 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
> Agreed
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 2:03 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
> run away
>
> If they're down hard and not coming back up, their customers are angry and
> frustrated and disappointed, so serious reputation damage has been done to
> their brand name.
>
> Any money you might spend acquiring their network or customers would be
> better spent, in my opinion, letting them fail utterly and then doing
> targeted marketing (with your own, un-sullied brand name) of a new build
> network in their previous service area.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:58 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
> So there is a WISP near us who we recently started coordinating with on
> frequencies, etc.
>
> Last Friday, the reached out and asked if we'd like to buy them.
>
> Then later that day they stated they were in a contract negotiation with
> their bandwidth provider and didn't see a solution.
>
> Over the weekend I spoke with someone else who had been affiliated with
> this company and basically their NOC has been
> repossessed by the bank.
>
> Monday they reached out and asked if we might sell them bandwidth.  I told
> them we'd discuss it internally.
>
> Today I see on their facebook page their fiber is down - so this is day
> one of their going away, I'd assume.
>
> There is likely no time left for vetting or due diligence on reviewing
> this ISP for purchase so at this point it is likely a long shot.
>
> My question - I assume you would all advise run run run as fast as you can.
>
> From the time a WISP loses their bandwidth (and thus can't provide
> service) what is the rate of customer exodus?
> If we came to an agreement and resumed services say - just in time for
> Christmas - what percentage would you all guess
> the customer base would have departed?
>
> I am told they have 250 + or -
>
> I don't know if they're in an area where they are losing to the incumbent
> phone provider or cable provider.
> (I know they are in centurylink territory)
>
> I know our closest tower to them is 18 miles - but they're probably six
> hops from our head end.
>
> Merry Christmas. :)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Residential Router

[Timothy Steele]

For that price 1 would do a google router 3 pack or amplifi 3pack

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016, 7:44 PM Paul Stewart  wrote:

> I bought a Nighthawk before the Asus and NetGear support is absolutely
> stupid ….. i ended up returning it the same day I bought it after spending
> 6 HOURS on the phone with them ….
>
> The Netgear I bought had an integrated VDSL modem, which I thought would
> be perfect … almost $400 for this router so I had high expectations.
> finally, tech support told me that because I’m in Canada, the VDSL modem
> itself in incompatible!  Umm .. wow.
>
> Just in case you are wondering - VDSL in Canada works the same as in the
> US … just saying
>
>
> > On Dec 13, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
> >
> > We recommend Asus in the $100+ dollar range and Netgear, but only the
> Nighthawk line, the rest is questionable.
> >
> > I've got UBNT Amplifi HD on order, but of course its delayed until the
> end of the month.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:12 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Residential Router
> >
> > Personally using Asus and one of the best “home routers” i’ve ever
> owned….  OpenWRT based which is really nice - performance is stellar and
> wireless is top of it’s class in my opinion….
> >
> > Mine is a RT-AC87R in particular but they make various models in the
> same family
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've been trying to pin down the router with the best range for around
> $150, but there are quite a few different opinions online.  The TP Link
> Archer C7 is reviewed pretty well and is <$100.  Other than that I'm
> thinking about a Netgear R6400 or R7000.  Any opinions on or experiences
> with these routers?
> >>
> >> -Jason
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?

[Timothy Steele]

It's called Airfiber LTU the AP will have a SFP port they designed all the
Chips ground up for WISP's only
And working sync obviously from the Motorola guys the win cambium is having
with epmp elevate is going to be very short lived tables about to turn on
cambium in a big way and I think that's why they are taking a huge risk of
getting into legal trouble from UBNT  but I don't think Robert cares as he
already knows he won the end game

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 8:49 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Sorta did in Vegas, but didn't really change the stock with that news.
> Not that coming out with the product would really do that.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 7, 2016 5:52 PM, "Carl Peterson" 
> wrote:
>
> Announcement of AF PTMP??
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Ubnt is at an all time high.  Last peak was March 2014.  Just over 5 years
> old, pretty cool to watch it go up and down.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Lol
>
> On Dec 7, 2016 3:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> Are they publically traded?  4th quarter sales bookings but not shipping?
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?
>
>
> They had a banner 2016, they pissed in robert peras Christmas porridge,
> maybe theyre pushing out that shine for 2017
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Daniel White  wrote:
>
> Very very few have shipped from Cambium.  Expect to hear a lot more this
> month.
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> ConVergence Technologies
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <(303)%20746-3590>
>
> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?
>
>
>
> So, more then a month out and no 450M operator with raving reviews? Is
> this a dud?
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now

[Timothy Steele]

Your TV antenna on top of a cell tower?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016, 11:28 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> We pay $0 for our TV. Is that low enough? OTA, we get 60+ channels. Many
> Spanish, Korean, and Chinese, but all the main network channels and 6 PBS
> channels are included.
>
> We have a DVR+, which also gets us access to a bunch of streaming
> channels. And a Roku as well. We don't pay for premium channels.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I'm actually kind of surprised this many people pay for cable.  Am I the
> only nerd that doesn't?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> I have a Hopper3 and two Joey's at home. Top 250, no premiums. Still
> $120/mo. The Hopper3 is awesome though.
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 6:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
> I just signed up for Dish in September and I have the Hopper DVR, a Joey,
> and the Flex channel pack and my total bill is $60/month with tax.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> We pay 120.00 for Dish..  What gives?  Travis negotiation skills?
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 4:16 PM, "Cameron Crum"  wrote:
>
> Wow, what plan is Travis on? I have Dish right now too, but nowhere close
> to that.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tyler Treat  > wrote:
>
> Same here.  Can't seem to get below $118/month.
>
> ___
> Mangled by my iPhone.
> ___
> Tyler Treat
> Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
>
> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
> ___
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I was never able to get that much for that little.
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:31 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
>
> Hey,
>
> Can you skip any commercials, or is that how they are helping pay for the
> service?
>
> With my DISH Network, I can skip all the commercials... plus DVR function,
> and over 250 channels including HBO, Showtime, etc. for less than
> $50/month. I also get all the local channels in HD without having to add
> another antenna. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 1:52 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Damn, I am liking this.� And I have tried them all.�
> �
> Direct TV Satellite
> Dish Network
> SlingTV
> Sony Playstation VUE
> Beehive IPTV
> Real Choice HTML5 IPTV
> TIVO
> �
> I wish they would spin a TIVO app or something.�
> So far, this is the only one with a decent EPG that is very similar to
> what you see on the satellite receiver.�
> Channel changes are instant.�
> Now I gotta figure out how to create my favorites or whatever they call
> it.�
> �
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
> �
> Two stream limit.�
> �
> *From:* Tyler Treat
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
> �
>
> �
> Is there a limit on concurrent sessions per user?
> how much bandwidth does it suck up per stream?
>
> --
> *From:* Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Chuck McCown
> mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:29 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Directv Now
> �
> https://directvnow.com/accounts/select-plan
> �
> I am signing up.�
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Has anyone tried razorsync?

[Timothy Steele]

Has anyone tried Razorsync?
https://youtu.be/BMZU7GeyY7U
http://www.razorsync.com/pricing/

Looks powerful and the the offline option is nice..

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 5ghz issues

[Timothy Steele]

Sounds like major interference or you are installing right under the tower
without giving the SM installs uptilt

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016, 9:03 PM Josh Corson  wrote:

> We are having some issues with a epmp 2000 AP.
>
> At first there was an install on a customers private tower to get
> service. I noticed the MCS downlink and uplink were sitting around MCS
> 1 with 80% or so of packets. So it affected all other customers on the
> AP and brought those other customers into 20% MCS 1 levels. Now his SM
> has been raised and signals are great, -60dBm, SNR of 37dB, MCS 13/15.
> The SM is also operating at mostly MCS 14-15 with only 1% in MCS 1.
> I changed the management to be MCS 0 to attempt to help with the
> minimal connection to MCS 1 so it will be allowed to pass traffic at
> that rate.
>
> However, this customer still has issues where the internet
> connectivity is random. Sometimes it just completely drops when you
> put traffic to it, but when it is on, speed tests of 37 Mbps down and
> 12 upload.
>
> All other customers are still on MCS 1 with levels ranging from 7% to
> 20%. I can assume they are having the same trouble as the customer
> listed above.
>
> All software is 3.1
>
> My question is, what is the issue? This SM shows nothing but good
> results, yet connectivity is poor at best, and all other customers are
> still having issues. I even disconnected the SM that caused customers
> to have problems and they were still modulating at the 7-20% MCS 1
> level. Tried changing channels, etc. but still no results.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Josh
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt devices intermittantly stop responding to pings

[Timothy Steele]

Are you can the latest firmware? Do you have ping watchdog running inside
the radios firmware ?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:21 AM TJ Trout  wrote:

> I did a little searching on the forum and I can't see to find anyone who
> has ran into this issue, I'm noticing that many of my ubnt devices will
> randomly stop responding to pings but the web ui and radio keep passing
> traffic normally? within an hour the radio will start responding to pings
> again like it never even happened... No power cycling or any intervention
> required.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PTP 60 miles 400Mbps

[Timothy Steele]

Think they said 2 to 3db loss

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016, 5:51 AM Charles Regan  wrote:

> That's interesting. Using multiple frequency and hope ducting affects only
> some of them? How many DB loss from the multiplexer?
>
> On Oct 31, 2016 11:11 PM, "Jeremy"  wrote:
>
> If you are already using AF5X, would this be a possibility?[image: Inline
> image 1]
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> We did a link from across the bay in Corpus Cristi with Tsunami 5Ghz
> radios using 4 ft. Dishes using horizontal polarity.   5 story building on
> one side and 120 ft.  Tower at other side.   These were 10mbps radios and
> we got almost 100% across.  All the other links on same roof and other
> water as well used vertical polarity and had ducting issues.   With MIMO
> and all kinds of polarity options I am sure you can find a solution.
> Antenna diversity must be engineered for path and conditions.   Where are
> you trying to shoot from?
>
> On Oct 31, 2016 6:39 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson"  wrote:
>
> Did SAF try 6GHz? Or did they only try 5GHz?
> Seems a 2+0 at 6 would probably work at that distance.. although seawater
> is a factor I dunno about
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2016, at 18:32, Charles Regan  wrote:
>
> Well here's SAF response:
> *My link planning team confirmed SAF does not have a viable 5GHz radio
> that can achieve your objective for this path.*
>
> Trango:
> *rough calculation suggests that even using space diversity will yield a 3
> - 4 'nines' link (predicted reliability) at around 200Mbps FDX.  The use of
> space diversity will also add considerably to the cost (a complete link
> might be upwards of $50K).*
>
> I'll ask SIAE...
>
> On Oct 31, 2016 9:19 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>
> 20k?
>
> SIAE AlfoPlus2 6 GHz 1024QAM dual polarity link. Or two pairs of alfoplus1
> 1024qam (single polarity) radios running in parallel, opposite polarities,
> equal OSPF cost between routers.
>
> Or Trango's 1024QAM 6GHz radios.
>
> Why not SAF?  I thought there was a 6 GHz version of the Integra now.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Charles Regan 
> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> What would you guys use for a 60 miles PTP link? 400Mbps. Oh and it's over
> seawater... 20k$ budget.
>
> SAF, Trango both said sorry, can't do.
> Mimosa B5C with space diversity and 3k$ maybe.
>
> We do have a working AF5x with a 34dbi dish doing 150Mbps aggregate.
> The link gets bad sometimes because of ducting/reflection.
>
> How could I use two parabolics dish on different polarity with the AF5x
> for space diversity? Splitter?
>
> Should a B5C perform better or worse ?
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands hang

[Timothy Steele]

Sounds like your radios are infected due to not updating the WEB UI will
say corrupt flash and wireless function will stop but you would still be
able to log into it

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I have 12 year old RouterBoards in the air, just humming along.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:23:27 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] UBNT M series no web, can SSH, but many commands
> hang
>
>
> Flash corruption happens over time, anywhere from 4-6 years from what I've
> seen on these.
>
> Normally by then there's some form of upgraded model to replace them with.
> They've definitely served their purpose by that point though.
>
> On Oct 27, 2016 7:05 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> wasnt one of the patch firmwares from the last fiasco corrupting flash?
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I’m starting to see a drip, drip, drip of UBNT M series radios in the
> field that don’t respond on the web interface but you can SSH in with the
> correct (non default) user/pass, and get various levels of functionality
> from there.  Usually the wireless isn’t working, but I have one today that
> is fully functional as far as wireless and passing data.  Once you SSH in,
> a few commands work, but many just hang.  Like you can ls but not cd, cat,
> or vi.  It doesn’t seem to be infected, more like corrupted firmware in
> NVRAM or something, I wonder if the NVRAM is starting to fail in these
> radios.  I don’t think there’s enough working to reflash the firmware.
>
>
>
> I’ve just been replacing radios when this happens, but there seems to be a
> trend, and I’m wondering if this is a known thing.
>
>
>
> FYI, the UBNT malware tool connects via SSH and then goes off into
> checking and never reports anything, just hangs like the CLI commands.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Getting pictures off of phone with bad screen.

[Timothy Steele]

Most androids are set to auto back up should be there when you restore to
new phone also if you keep pics in Google photos your pics are inside your
Google account

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016, 10:23 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> most every phone dealer carries a transfer device, if you know of one who
> has a cellebrite ume that will do it, considering it can break into an
> iphone with some adjunct, it should pull your pics
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> download the htc developer pack there should be something otherwise if its
> got an sd card theyre probably on that
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
> I've got an old HTC Incredible 3G with a screen that died a few years ago
> and I would like to get the pictures off of it.  The phone will power up
> and my computer will detect it's drives but without a screen I can't select
> "mount as disk drive" which would allow me access.  Does anyone know of any
> hacks or workarounds for this problem?
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

[Timothy Steele]

GPS is built into the AirPrism BaseStaion the software to enable the GPS
hardware will not be released until after they get AC backwards
compatibility working after that a GPS beta firmware should be released ..
at least that is what they are telling people on the forum

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 2:49 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> LOL LOLZ LMAO ROTFLMAO I dont know any more trendy acronyms to
> indicate hearty laughter
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> It was supposed to before August I thought! =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> GPS is not working yet.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Erich Kaiser <
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>>
 Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS? Does it work yet?

 How are you guys doing it with the Airprism Sector?


>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

[Timothy Steele]

I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed designed dishes
seems to work much better when under a tower also much more simple to mount
on a tower I hope they do the same with 2.4 and 365 soon

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband 
wrote:

> +1
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d
>
>
>
> We love it! We have standardized on it
>
>
>
> -looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional
>
> -gain the same or 1-2db better
>
> -easier to assemble / align
>
> -less windload
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's because they
> don't like reflector dishes, or because of the 40M license key.
>
> Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna gain than the
> regular 450 SM plus a reflector dish, but the spec sheets say 25 dBi either
> way.  What are people really seeing in the field?  Is there a performance
> difference in an apples-to-apples comparison?  How much?  I'm not going to
> get too excited about 1 dB.
>
> Otherwise, we're looking at the connectorized 450 SM.  Or the
> connectorized 450i SM, which is pretty pricey.
>

[AFMUG] TowerCovrage augmented reality need help..

[Timothy Steele]

We are having some issues with augmented reality in Tower Coverage.. is
there a support forum I am not finding?

its trying to load all our towers instead of just towers within 5 Miles so
the App will crash soon as we try and open the augmented reality part of
the app

anyone have any idea's? feel free to contact me off-list too

Thanks,

[AFMUG] Looking for internet in Knoxville TN

[Timothy Steele]

Anyone know of a company that can get 100Mbps or more preferably a gigabit
that is allowed for resale to this address?

1600 Downtown West Blvd.
Suite E
Knoxville, TN 37919

Thanks,

Re: [AFMUG] NAT64

[timothy steele]

You will also need to look into nat464xlat to get IPV6 working with mobile
devices you will still have issues with just NAT64

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 6:20 PM George Skorup  wrote:

> He means do v4 to v4 NAT at your core or edge routers. Then stack v6 on
> natively. That's what we're doing. Same reason, not enough v4 addresses
> left.
>
> On 8/1/2016 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> > We can, but at the edge, to talk to a V4 host you need a publically
> > routable V4 address.
> > We will be out of addresses very soon.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Matt
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:41 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NAT64
> >
> > Why not dual stack them with IPv6 and a NATed IPv4 IP?  I thought
> > 100.64.0.0/10 private space was just for that purpose.  Seems to be
> > what most cellphones are doing.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> >> Our V6 only customers need to connect to V4 only destinations.
> >>
> >> From: Sterling Jacobson
> >> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:33 PM
> >> To: af@afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NAT64
> >>
> >>
> >> Why use NAT64 again?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought we all just route out IPv6 blocks to customers on DHCPv6,
> >> no NAT
> >> required.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> >> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:32 PM
> >> To: af@afmug.com
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] NAT64
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Still searching for a good solution to go IPV6 only with the subs.
> >> Takes a
> >> pretty expensive piece of hardware at the core router to do NAT64 in a
> >> carrier class manner.  If anyone has suggestions I am anxious to learn.
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] NAT64

[timothy steele]

OpenBSD

https://youtu.be/RPsis5U4xx0

http://davidcrumpton.blogspot.com/2014/04/ipv6-only-network-with-dns64-nat64-and.html?m=1

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 5:48 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> We can, but at the edge, to talk to a V4 host you need a publically
> routable
> V4 address.
> We will be out of addresses very soon.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:41 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NAT64
>
> Why not dual stack them with IPv6 and a NATed IPv4 IP?  I thought
> 100.64.0.0/10 private space was just for that purpose.  Seems to be
> what most cellphones are doing.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> > Our V6 only customers need to connect to V4 only destinations.
> >
> > From: Sterling Jacobson
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:33 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NAT64
> >
> >
> > Why use NAT64 again?
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought we all just route out IPv6 blocks to customers on DHCPv6, no
> NAT
> > required.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> > Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 3:32 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] NAT64
> >
> >
> >
> > Still searching for a good solution to go IPV6 only with the subs.  Takes
> > a
> > pretty expensive piece of hardware at the core router to do NAT64 in a
> > carrier class manner.  If anyone has suggestions I am anxious to learn.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

[timothy steele]

Get a ez-trencher and some conduit get done in half day with 2 guys unless
they demand it be deeper then 1ft

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016, 7:49 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> About 10 years ago I paid an underground boring company for about that
> distance under the parking lot between 2 buildings in an office park.  It
> was a total turnkey job and while I don’t remember the cost it was quite
> reasonable.  Being flexible about schedule and what diameter conduit (so
> they could use some  leftover they had from another job) helped.  They put
> in something like 2 inch PVC duct with mule tape, cored into the 2
> buildings, and put in some pipe and an LB at each building.
>
> Perhaps now with all the fiber projects going on it has gotten more
> difficult and expensive to hire a crew for this kind of job.
>
>
> *From:* Aaron Fitzgerald 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2016 6:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Short fiber trench
>
> Hey guys --
>
> I'd been talking with a local data center and fiber contractor in town
> about running dark fiber from the data center to a cell tower that is about
> 600ft from the exterior pull boxes. Both the fiber carrier I have been
> talking to and the data center have their own pull box. The fiber company
> wants around $100k in total for NRC + 5 yr MRC. Seems way too expensive.
>
> The data center owner asked a fairly obvious question: the run is short,
> why not do it yourself? To be honest it's not something Id' ever
> considered. The data center is willing to let me pay for a cross to the
> carrier hotel, pull fiber to his outside pullbox and connect to the outside
> world from there. The land owner where the cell tower sits would be game as
> well -- I'd be paying him rent for usage of the tower afterall.
>
> How would one even get started with this? Ease and pros/cons of boring vs
> trenching? I don't imagine I would need to worry about any protection from
> conduit on a run this short
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> /Fiber newb
>
> --
>
>
> Aaron Fitzgerald - CEO/CIO
> wiFitz Network Services
> Serving NE Iowa's Creative Corridor
> Phone: 319/540-8999
> Web: http://www.wifitz.net
>
> wiFitz is a service of Fitzgerald Embedded, LLC
>

Re: [AFMUG] Satelite connectivity while traveling.

[timothy steele]

https://www.engadget.com/2016/01/30/google-project-skybender/

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016, 8:34 PM Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Yeah I realized that after I read a few of the posts. We are actually in
> MB but I figured a big town was easier to use. Like I said SE Alaska is in
> the planning stage as well but that trip is a year + off and I plan to have
> hired a new tech that will be amazing by then. Of course I might just get a
> tech….
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2016 7:29 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Satelite connectivity while traveling.
>
>
>
> O…. Edmonton isn’t exactly “north” in my book haha
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
> *Sent:* July 18, 2016 8:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Satelite connectivity while traveling.
>
>
>
> As far as how far north. We are about 100 miles north of Edmonton AB down
> the road though SE Alaska would be on the list of trips.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2016 7:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Satelite connectivity while traveling.
>
>
>
> Option B is certainly something I would consider. Phone is good but
> without data I am still pretty blind.
>
>
>
> Option C sound promising. 5$ a MB is fine if I spend 100$ + to deal with
> an issue that needs to be dealt with fine.
>
>
>
> I should point out a vehicle installed / mounted option would probably be
> a good way to go. Its my truck that goes on these trips.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2016 6:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Satelite connectivity while traveling.
>
>
>
> I've worked in satellite for many years...  You have a few options and
> none are cheap for high latitudes:
>
> a) Portable VSAT terminal 0.9 to 1.2 meter size range, Ku or Ka-band.
> Expensive hardware and service *starts* from $450/mo in a highly
> contended TDMA network. You'd need to verify spot beam coverage and signal
> strength in particular locations if you're going to the north. Most
> consumer grade VSAT stuff is not appropriate. There are Ka-band services on
> Telesat satellites which are resold by XPlornet and others in Canada for
> high latitude fixed-site Ka-band VSAT services. Not very portable stuff -
> it's designed to be installed and aimed once on the side of a house.
>
> b) Iridium handheld phone - works literally anywhere on the planet but
> you're NOT going to web browse on it. It's 2400 baud with v42bis
> compression. Works for SMS, voice and email.
>
> c) Inmarsat BGAN terminal - how do you feel about $5/MB?  Also, uses
> geostationary satellites so if you're going to high latitudes connectivity
> might be a problem. Can't use the very small laptop sized BGAN terminals in
> northern Canada.
>
> For a "shit hits the fan" solution there's nothing more portable and
> better than an Iridium phone and a portable 20W solar charger. The $40/mo
> service accounts come with no minutes, you set up your credit card for
> usage billing. If SHTF then you don't care that it's $1.19/minute to make a
> call.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
> I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with and products that
> would provide me a data connection through satellite? Not a dish system
> something more portable.
>
> The scenario is I have a few trips coming up. The first later this year is
> the same I take every year far north Canada and no cell signal where we
> stay. I can get texts sometimes and have to go to town to find wifi 45
> minutes one way one truck for the group so going to town affects everyone.
> I don’t every plan to work on this trip but if SHTF then I might need to
> get online diagnose and instruct what to replace. So this leads me to the
> idea of satellite remote access. I would need to connect via VPN to the
> network speed is not terribly important.
>
>
>
> Anyone got any experience? Upfront cost is a little of a concern. Minutes
> / data cost is not if its expensive fine.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] old laptops

[timothy steele]

Take the magnet's out of all the hard drives and use them to hover around
your office ;)







On Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 4:58 PM Bruce Robertson  wrote:

> I'm sure they can, but I don't have anything that the FBI would be
> interested in.  I'm more concerned about your everyday identity thief.
>
>
> On 07/12/2016 11:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> My oldest son works with the cyber crimes law enforcement folks.  He
> claims the FBI can still get good stuff from a disk that has been
> hammered.
>
>
> *From:* Bruce Robertson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 12:24 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>
> My technique for destroying old disks is to take them out of the laptop
> and then pound them a few times with a sledgehammer.  Seems to do the trick.
>
> On 07/12/2016 10:45 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> 486 with WinME ... face it, they’re e-waste.
>
> Find an electronics recycler that will guarantee they’ll wipe or destroy
> the disks and won’t charge to take them off your hands.
>
> If they work and have an Ethernet port and maybe a serial port, keep at
> least one of them around for when you need to program equipment.  And if
> they have a diskette drive and CD/DVD drive, maybe keep one around in case
> you need to read one of those.  New “ultrabooks” tend to assume everything
> is WiFi and stored in the cloud.
>
>
>
> *From:* Simon Westlake 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 11:57 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>
> If they are that old, I doubt they have too much value for charities.
> You'd probably be lucky to give them away, I have a few that aren't even as
> old as that, and I haven't been able to find anyone that wants them.
>
> I would just take them to Goodwill if you don't want them to go to waste,
> putting the OS back on them would probably help most people.
>
> On 7/12/2016 11:49 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Some of them have Windows ME on them 486 machines.
>
> *From:* Bruce Robertson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:48 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>
> Chuck has 'em, not me!
>
> On 07/12/2016 09:44 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>
> Bruce
> what kind of laptops you got? I am always looking for laptops for my wisp.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> -Original Message-
> From: "Glen Waldrop" < gwl...@cngwireless.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 07/12/16 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>
> If you did I'd wipe and reload.
>
> Anyone going to a thrift store for a computer is either poor and likely
> can't do anything with it if there is a problem or possibly a techie,
> they'll wipe and reload regardless.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>  *From:* Chuck McCown 
>  *To:* af@afmug.com
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 11:38 AM
>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>
>
> I am wondering if they have much value for charities.  I suppose thrift
> stores sell them.
> Should I leave the OS on them?
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* Bruce Robertson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>
>
>
>
> Wipe the disks and donate them to a charity.
>
> On 07/12/2016 09:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>
> What should I do with a tower of old laptops stacking up at my house.� I
> hate to toss them.� I am sure most of them can be made to work, perhaps
> with a new battery.�
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[timothy steele]

If they make a dish that looks like a UBNT radio why would they not ship
with Beta firmware like UBNT? Seems Normal to me..

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, 11:56 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Seems like a questionable practice shipping product with beta firmware,
> unless the product itself is still in beta.
>
> For that matter, the whole “release candidate” designation is confusing.
> Is that like “presumptive nominee”?  It’s either released, or it’s beta.
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 10:25 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200
>
> Same here, we always update to the current stable firmware and load a
> template on every radio before it leaves the office. It's odd they're
> shipping these with an RC though... one of our guys asked me yesterday if
> he needed to update one to 2.6.2 since it was already 2.6.2RC.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> It's always been standard for us to update and template the radio in the
>> cool office before heading outside.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some
>>> upgrades to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2.
>>>
>>> Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?
>>>
>>> Vince West
>>> Tower Hand
>>> Technical Support
>>> Shelby Broadband
>>> 148 Citizens Blvd
>>> Simpsonville, KY 40067
>>> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell >> > wrote:
>>>
 I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
 them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the
 shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges.
 Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours.



 Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the
 factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
 this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.



 Andy Trimmell

 *Systems Engineer*

 *PDS Connect*

 317-831-3000



>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't happen if no SM sessions

[timothy steele]

I have seen that if there is a firmware mismatch example AP is on 14.1.1
and the SM is on a firmware older then 13.4 I have seen random data drops
or the AP kicking the SM

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016, 6:59 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I’m sure it’s not a network loop or attack.
>
> I’m starting to think this is a variation of the memory controller
> problem, but rather than causing watchdog resets, it’s causing data to stop
> being processed.
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 5:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't
> happen if no SM sessions
>
> i would upgrade the AP and all SMs to 14.1.2 (it's a very stable release)
>
> if it exhibits these issues once SMs start to register are you sure that
> you are not somehow creating a network loop through an SM, or some client
> is launching a DDoS and the subject of a DDoS attack?
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Does this sound like any kind of a known issue?
>>
>> I have a 450 AP that has been in service for about a year that has
>> started intermittently becoming nonresponsive from the Ethernet side (can't
>> access GUI, doesn't pass traffic).  I thought Ethernet problem, but neither
>> the AP nor the switch shows any errors or events.  It is more like the CPU
>> is going to sleep or something, but the Ethernet chip is still active.  I
>> don't see anything in the Event Log though.
>>
>> We missed applying the Lite to Full license key on this AP and I thought
>> maybe that was the problem since it was at 10 SMs, but I applied the
>> license key and still see the problem.
>>
>> The weird thing is, if I set the Freq to None, or set the color code to
>> something we don't use, the AP doesn't seem to exhibit the problem.  Only
>> once SMs start registering.
>>
>> I'm thinking it's maybe a power starvation issue, that the AP uses more
>> power when actively talking to SMs, and maybe it's not getting enough
>> voltage.
>>
>> But I also see the firmware is still on 13.2.1.3, and I see Cambium
>> finally released 14.1.2 official.  I am hesitant to upgrade the firmware
>> though, unless there is some reason to believe what I am seeing is a
>> firmware bug. Otherwise I am just adding to the confusion.
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

[timothy steele]

Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d has more of a narrow
antenna pattern then using a dish so I would expect to see better results
don't have 1 to try though..

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 5:55 PM Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> Someone bought one that's not government?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
> > On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Matt  wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz SM with reflector?  I
> > have a problem CPE I need just a bit more gain and wandered if that
> > will get me over the hump.
> >
> > What about a 3.65 SM with reflector vs the PMP450 3.6 with integrated
> antenna?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket AC low signal?

[timothy steele]

If your chains are off by 10db there is interference or your pointing into
power lines corn or part of a tree also that's very close to to the tower
be sure you have the right up tilt on the nanobeam and running the latest
firmware

Also you did not say what nanobeam you have  if you are using the small
flash light style nano beam many have reported that 1 has a weaker antenna
then the old N gear antenna's

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 1:32 AM TJ Trout  wrote:

> I have a rocket 5ac lite connected to the large 5ghz omni with two
> nanobeam ac's connected to it, one about 1000ft away and the other 2000ft
> away and one has a signal of -70 and the other -64, both are absolutely
> clear LOS and on both clients the chain 0 and chain 1 are 10db off from
> each other...
>
> I don't think it's possible to get the sma cables reversed so it can't be
> backwards, both units are at full power 26 and 27dbm on the rocket, I would
> expect like -30 or -40 at this distance...
>
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? This is my first test of AC but I know
> with the N stuff the signal would be atleast 20db better at the same output
> power...
>
> Ideas?
>

[AFMUG] Xconomy: Google Fiber Buys Webpass in Wireless Internet Land Grab

[timothy steele]

Xconomy: Google Fiber Buys Webpass in Wireless Internet Land Grab.
http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwk5WQ2SU

Re: [AFMUG] Customer w/ Power of Ethernet - Speed problems?

[timothy steele]

Need to be sure your on same side of breaker box on both end of EOP I have
nothing but good results that's with the newer EOP's though the ones from
around 5yrs ago will get  really hot and will slow down over time

Also if they are running more then 1 set of EOP's that are not meant to be
set up that way it will slow it way down

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 11:57 PM Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> I had a customers router recently that was set to 3/1 it was somewhere in
> the firmware of the router. I bounced around in the router for a few
> minutes but could not find the settings. I took a screen cap of a speed
> test through the router 3/1 and a screen cap of the laptop plugged directly
> into the Ethernet 12/3 and sent them both to him. I believe he finally just
> replaced the router.
>
> If he gets the same speed regardless of what you set him to might be
> similar.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris @
> Internet Communications Inc
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:43 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer w/ Power of Ethernet - Speed problems?
>
>
>
> The Ethernet gear was installed already when we arrived.  He had
> configured the stuff on his own.  The customer has the same complaint no
> matter what speed we set him at.
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer w/ Power of Ethernet - Speed problems?
>
>
>
> Did the issue come in to play with this Netgear thing (are you sure it
> isn't Ethernet over Power)?  Or when you went from 20meg to 30meg.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
> Toss your thoughts out…
>
>
>
> First customer that installer has come across with new Netgear Power of
> Ethernet gear.  Customers main router is just a N300 which does PPPoE to
> our network.
>
> Account was set to 20Mbps and now 30Mbps.  Speed tests are good from radio
> out.  Customer says from inside his network he only gets 9-12Mbps, with no
> traffic or users.
>
>
>
> Curious if anyone has come across this power of Ethernet in an install.
> Does it work ok or cause issues? How do routers handle the traffic?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
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>
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[AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast Sync drops warning

[timothy steele]

Gizmodo: FAA Warns of GPS Outages This Month During Mysterious Tests on the
West Coast. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwjLfC_Co

Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime

[timothy steele]

You have to have direct TV they also throttle you way down after 22GB

On Sat, May 21, 2016, 9:20 AM Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> AT is building towers here like crazy after being deregulated from
> having to provide copper service here.  They are installing the home fusion
> type boxes too.  Unlimited Internet in their docs say "22GB".
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:18 AM, David  wrote:
>
>> That was my guess as well..
>> It says they are participating in the CAF not being supported by it.
>> Arkansas along with a few other south east region states are considered
>> very rural.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/20/2016 09:49 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> No detail there.  I don’t know how, unless they are doing one of the
>> experimental CAF projects like Rise/JAB is doing.
>>
>> *From:* David 
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 8:35 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime
>>
>> They discussed it in here
>>
>> http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/20/2016 08:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> How are they using CAF?
>>
>> *From:* David 
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 7:32 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It had to end sometime
>>
>> Yeah,
>> I faintly remember that discussion. Not all its cut out to be.
>> It just gives more fodder to the FCC for better coverage to ATT so that
>> they can buy some time to block other incumbents for a chance at some
>> subsidy moneys.
>> They are using the CAF to do this with.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/17/2016 03:10 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Verizon has, or had, an LTE fixed solution a few years ago. I am pretty
>> sure it was depply discussed on this list. It was UBB at around 10G for
>> $100 if memory serves. ATT will likely try to be in the same ballpark.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:54 PM David  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks guys, now I know my conscience wasnt lying to me :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/17/2016 02:50 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> "unlimited" to a big ISP/cellco means throttling after some finite cap.
>>> They are greedy shitbags.
>>>
>>> On 5/17/2016 2:32 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>
>>> Since it will likely be licensed, it is unlikely to be unlimited IMO.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very curious to see what their pricing is going to be on fixed and
 weather or not its UBB or unlimited.

>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

>>> Verizon did the same thing around here several years ago with similar
> results.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They tried wireless in Dallas called Project Angel long time ago.
>> Didn't work out
>> On May 17, 2016 1:17 PM, "Seth Mattinen"  wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/17/16 12:13, David wrote:
>>>
 Looks like ATT now wants to be a WISP,CELLCO,TELCO,ISP,and a
 Satellite
 provider all rolled up into one.


 http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/43/att-plans-launch-of-new-product-touts-115-billion-investment-since-2012?utm_source=enews_051716_medium=email_content=technology-news_campaign=newsletter_zone=3897


>>> Jack of all trades, master of none.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>
>

>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Airgrid XW 5.5.1.0 firmware -5 error?

[timothy steele]

If the radio is infected it will stop the upgrade had that happen

On Tue, May 17, 2016, 8:45 AM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Download the new Ubnt Java patch and run that against the IPs. It will
> upgrade the radios.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a memory leak. If it's still connected via air control you
>> can try using it to reboot it
>> On May 16, 2016 9:12 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>>> oops I confused this with another one I'm working on, I actually just
>>> got this one to update through SSH using the ubnt removal tool., I have
>>> another that has no ssh, no web ui but is passing traffic, I suspect is
>>> infected
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:11 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>>
 Can't get in via SSH as well, I'll try to get the customer to do a hard
 reboot, then make a truck roll if that doesn't work

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Usually a software reboot works...it doesn't have room for whatever
> reason.
>
> Have you tried wget and fwupdate ?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:07 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, tried that as well. UI reboot anyway. Not a full power cycle.
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Try to reboot it first, then upgrade.
>>> On May 16, 2016 9:00 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>>
 I tried XW and XM, really strange

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:00 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Firmware Version: XW.v5.5.10   Upload Firmware:
> Build Number: 24238
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> Make sure you're using upgrade and not upload... Also probably
>> should be xm firmware, not xw.
>> On May 16, 2016 8:30 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know the upgrade path or why this airgrid won't upgrade?
>>>
>>> XW 5.5.10 , tried almost all firmware revisions and keep getting
>>> failed -5 error?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> TJ
>>>
>>
>

>>
>

>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT CPE being used for Abusive actions?

[timothy steele]

There is also a Linux worm going around that exploits devices with default
username and passwords the latest firmware for ubnt will force you to
change the password

On Wed, May 4, 2016, 10:12 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> I know about the very old firmware version for M series stuff that is
> vulnerable to a known worm.
>
> But let's assume you do have ubnt devices with public IPs (which is a bad
> idea). What's the attack surface? http, https, ssh, snmp
>
> Provided you have chosen a reasonably complex admin login and password
> there are no *current, known* remote root exploits for current (or within
> the past 2 years) ubnt firmware on M or AC devices, right?
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Public IP on Ubnt.  What else do you need to know?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On May 4, 2016 9:59 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:
>>
>>> The thread got this far and noone has wondered how the CPE was pwned in
>>> the first place?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I looked at setting it up that way at one point, but something
 didn't look like it was going to work quite the way I wanted it to... but I
 probably spent all of five minutes on it, so it may very well be possible.
 The way ePMP does it is really nice though... and simple.

 On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> People do it for sure.  I want to say there was an example on the
> forums or some where...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On May 4, 2016 9:35 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
>> I have our ePMP's setup to get their public IP via PPPoE, and the
>> radio also gets a completely separate private management IP via DHCP, 
>> which
>> is the only way you can remotely access the radio, and it doesn't even 
>> have
>> to be in a separate vlan unless you want it to be... and it's one 
>> checkbox
>> to configure it.
>>
>> I'm not sure if that can be duplicated on UBNT or not, since I
>> haven't really tried yet, but at the very least it's a lot more 
>> complicated
>> to configure.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It does...you just need to set it up that way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I really wish Ubiquiti radios had a separate management vlan option
 (in router mode), like ePMP does...

 On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I would encourage you to put your CPEs on a management vlan, in
> RFC1918 space.
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 6:00 PM, SmarterBroadband
>  wrote:
> > Hi Tushar
> >
> >
> >
> > We run all radios in NAT mode.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 3:34 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT CPE being used for Abusive actions?
> >
> >
> >
> > Radios could be put on private ip so nobody from outside world
> can access
> > it. That is what we do.
> >
> > Tushar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 4, 2016, at 5:22 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have received a number of emails for ab...@light-gap.net
> saying certain of
> > our IP address are being used for attacks (see email text below).
> >
> >
> >
> > All IP addresses are in UBNT radios.  We are unable to remote
> access any of
> > the these radios now.  We see that the radio we are unable to
> access
> > rebooted a couple of days ago.  A number of other radios show
> they rebooted
> > around the same time (in sequence) on the AP.  We are unable to
> remote
> > access any of those either. Other radios with longer uptime on
> the AP’s are
> > fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have a tech on route to one of the customer sites.

[AFMUG] $2m grand prize from DARPA to find a intelligent way to split the Spectrum

[timothy steele]

DARPA is offering a two million-dollar prize for anyone that can find an
intelligent way to split the Spectrum

http://spectrumcollaborationchallenge.com

[AFMUG] New style cambium POE rj-45's popping out

[timothy steele]

We have had at least 20 repairs now due to the RJ-45 popping out of the POE
side of the new cambium power bricks with no force just cable moving around
this is from a variety of different installers and crimpers is there really
no one else out there with the same issues?? This was never a issue with
old POE

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

[timothy steele]

That phone has been on Engadget a few times most think it is a scam to get
government funding..

LG G3 still the best phone ever made and can pick them up on eBay for
around $50 if your looking for a budget phone

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 8:53 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Oh look, the Greeks went away and left us this nice horse as a free gift.
> Let’s wheel it inside the gate.  What could go wrong?
>
>
> *From:* Keefe John 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:58 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone
>
> I dont see how a phone could cost $4 even if it was built from stolen
> parts using slave labor.
>
> On 3/15/2016 11:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> You can buy TWO of these phones for less than you can buy lunch. Heck, you
> could buy 100 of these phones, and save $300 off the price of 1 iphone. I
> don't get it.
>
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/tech/unboxing-video-reveals-wonders-4-android-phone-182430448.html
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> bp
> 
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

[timothy steele]

04:18:d6:e4:c0:15 Is a ubnt Mac sure you don't own that Mac? In the client
list you should see it pop up now and then maybe pop up a fake ap with same
said with passphrase ubnt should connect then you can get into the network
of who ever is doing it

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016, 7:14 AM Gino Villarini  wrote:

> are you running 802.11n or airmax?
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m almost done doing that.  This should be interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 9:55 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor
>>
>>
>>
>> Change your ssid and hide it...
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2016 9:05 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> Received disassoc from 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15. Reason: Disassociated because
>> sending STA is leaving (or has left) BSS (8).
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 STA-TRAFFIC-STAT mac=04:18:d6:e4:c0:15
>> rx_packets=633675 rx_bytes=116857546 tx_packets=2225222 tx_bytes=3041234063
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 Expired node:04:18:D6:E4:C0:15
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 hostapd: ath0: STA 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15 IEEE 802.11:
>> disassociated
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 Sending deauth to 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15.
>> Reason: Class 2 frame received from nonauthenticated STA (
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 9:03 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a couple of customers off the same Ubiquiti Rocket 5 AP that have
>> been having an issue the last couple days with going offline for a short
>> time and then reconnecting and coming back online.  I pull the logs on the
>> AP and see a bunch of handshaking and several of these.  I’m pretty sure
>> this is what happens when an enterprise radio does Rogue Access Point
>> Suppression.  Am I reading this right or is there something I’m not aware
>> of like a bad CPE that can cause this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 PMP-450 antenna choices

[timothy steele]

If your going for Nlos I would try and stay away from 120. Even Ubnt will
tell you they don't like 120

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:02 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Yeah, looking at the pattern in the spec sheet for the Cambium antenna, it
> looks to be about -10db at 120.
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:46 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> All I have used is the Laird OEM antenna as well. The null-fill is nice.
>> It is definitely a -6dB 90/-3dB 65. I have found that it rolls off sharply
>> beyond 90.
>>
>> Cambium claims >32dB F/B ratio. I know Mark @ Amplex has mentioned this
>> before, short range SMs (like 1/2 mile or so) seem to get crappy downlink
>> SNR. They are apparently hearing the opposite sector on the same frequency
>> which points to the F/B ratio. I have seen this as well. I actually put up
>> a post on the Cambium community about it last night.
>>
>> On 2/23/2016 12:24 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> Really? I was told the 90 degree cambium sector was actually a 65 degree
>> sector so you using it at 120 degrees? I would assume there is at least a
>> 6db difference between the center of the beamwidth and the outer edges at
>> 120 degrees.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> I've only used the cambium one...works great.
>>>
>>> You can actually use it as a 120* sector if you need to, you just loose
>>> 3db more than at the 90* point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone used all three of these antenna choices for PMP450/3.65ghz ?

 - KP 120 degree 3.65ghz slant sector
 - Cambium Stock 90 degree 3.65ghz slant sector
 - Alpha Wireless 120 degree 3.65ghz slant sector

 And what was your thoughts on all of them? Did any perform worse or
 better than the other?



>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz

[timothy steele]

What speeds are you looking for? You can get about 1meg client side of of
the HAM band if you have the license
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:25 PM timothy steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:13 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> I've never had any luck with 2.4 going through much more than the side of
>> an aspen tree.
>>
>> can you set up some 900 test shots?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better?  I can use 5GHz inside
>>> the houses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an
>>> ohm meter, measure the resistance of the needle.  Make sure you jam the
>>> probe into the interior of the thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am guessing that the water content of the needle absorbs some of the
>>> RF energy al la a microwave oven.  But anecdotal evidence over the past
>>> 10-15 years has shown that pine trees are worse than others so if the
>>> needle itself has a fairly low resistance, like 100 ohms, it is acting like
>>> a dipole with a termination resistor.  That is really going to suck up the
>>> signal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stealth aircraft have microwave absorbing foam on some of their surfaces
>>> that operate by similar principles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is ~8.33cm
>>> (~3 1/4 inch).  Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine needles) are
>>> around the same 3 1/4 inch length
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so with water in the needles you have a big 900Mhz RF
>>> scattering/reflector ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So if you have a minute to please explain how evergreen trees are
>>> terrible on 900 mhz, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ponderosa?  Fir?  Cedar?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The length of the needles matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types of
>>> trees?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
>>> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or
>>> controversy” – Martin Luther King
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] 500 Foot Cat-5 Run

[timothy steele]

Router with SFP port run fiber and cat5 to a UBNT edge point connect the SM
to that
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:10 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I have heard claims from vendors (I don't remember which) that their
> switches will do 500 feet.
> I would try to swap around the equipment on the ends and see if you get
> lucky.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 1:38 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 500 Foot Cat-5 Run
>
> I have a ~500 foot buried cat-5 run that works fine at 10base FDX but
> not 100base.  Anyone know of a way to get it to run 100base?  I need
> about 20mbps out of this.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti EdgeRouters?

[timothy steele]

The high end edge point has a SFP+ would not say the Edge router is that
far from doing 10g

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:07 AM Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> With the higher speeds you need to dive a bit into the HW to get the
> announced speeds.
>
> E.g. with the RB1100AHx2 you have to see what ports are connected to which
> internal switch.
>
> If you route between 2 ports connected to the same switch you only get
> half the speed as there
>
> Is only one gigabit link between internal switch and CPU. If you use ports
> connected to different switches
>
> you get full speed.
>
>
>
> The CCR Tilera is powerful due to a lot of CPUs but single cpus are weak.
> So you see slow speed tests as
>
> they run on one cpu and max it out. This does not mean the CCR cant
> forward higher speeds.
>
>
>
> Same is with UBNT offloading HW. You need to know what is offloaded.
>
>
>
> We stay with MT for routing. As it works and we are used to Winbox. Very
> efficient.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Josh Reynolds
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 8. Februar 2016 16:33
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti EdgeRouters?
>
>
>
> Does "use both" count? :)
>
> Mikrotik has a much better GUI for network operators. It's fast and
> informative and even works well on mobile. UBNT's is geared more to
> consumer-ish-es? :)
>
> MikroTik has a larger price range/variety.
>
> EdgeRouter has a FAR SUPERIOR CLI. This is especially true for people who
> are familiar with either JUNOS or Vyatta. Not only is the CLI documented
> very well inside of itself, but the ability to access the underlying Linux
> CLI is often quite useful. I've even seen them used as PBX's and other odd
> things - note: there are limits, and you can't just apt-get upgrade and
> expect things to be OK.
>
> Documentation is a Toss Up. You can use the very detailed vyatta docs for
> most things, but EdgeOS and VyOS/Brocade vrouter are starting to drift s
> bit. There are a lot of examples on both forums and knowledge bases
> (UBNT/Mikrotik)
>
> Mikrotik has better queuing/shaping methods, UBNT is catching up. UBNT
> does have hierarchal QOS as well as fq_codel.
>
> MikroTik is cheaper and more expensive. (Lol)
>
> EdgeRouterX SFP is a nice entry. It can do around 600Mbps or so with some
> firewall rules in place. They are about to enable hardware offload on it
> which should increase performance well beyond RB2011 levels. It also has a
> 5 port switch chip and sfp port, so it's a pretty handy piece of gear at a
> good price.
>
> ER Pro has much better BGP convergence than I think just about any of the
> Mikrotik boards currently. Also, DPI. ER does have mpls, vpls, te, etc in
> new builds but they are playing catch-up here.
>
> Just about all if not all of the CCRs will have higher overall performance.
>
> CCRs have some very limiting software characteristics on their 10G unit -
> hopefully that should change in ROS7(?).
>
> UBNT has not publicly announce a 10G product yet.
>
> I would love to see something with a 4-8 core x 2GHz cavium + DPI offload
> and DPDK. I'm pretty sure they could pull that off, and it could kick some
> serious butt in the 10G market.
>
> I probably missed a few things, but this should help. Both have their
> place and are great platforms.
>
> On Feb 8, 2016 8:25 AM, "Christopher Gray" 
> wrote:
>
> I have not heard much about Ubiquiti EdgeRouters in a while (Other than
> from Ubiquiti). I understand the firmware is improving and many features
> have added over the past year.
>
>
>
> Is anyone using EdgeRouter / EdgePoint product lines finding they prefer
> them over MikroTik?
>
>
>
> I'm using all MikroTik for my routing and switching at this time, but I'm
> willing to try new things.
>
>
>
> Thanks - Chris
>
>