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The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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You ought to read "/The Big Fat Surprise/" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read " The Big Fat Surprise " by Nina Teicholz ( https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425 ). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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I agree that most of us put too much stock in the foods we eat (or don't). I don't pay too much attention to what I eat, and I do eat plenty of butter and fat in general (including nuts and meat). While I've gained a little weight in the last decade, I attribute most of it to not enough balance in food versus exercise. In the last year I started paying more attention to getting out and about, and not eating as many sweets (or bread). I think I'm down about 10 pounds in the last year, and am now much closer to my historical weight that I had in my 20s, 30s and 40s. bp On 1/22/2017 3:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "/The Big Fat Surprise/" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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I almost never avoid breakfast; only when I'm short on time. I do skip lunch about 50% of the time. bp On 1/22/2017 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. *From:* Mike Hammett *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "/The Big Fat Surprise/" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read " The Big Fat Surprise " by Nina Teicholz ( https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425 ). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/19/breakfast-nutrition-science/ From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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Ha, I so agree with this From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. > Not so good at solving arguments. > > *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > > I completely agree with this. > > You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to > happen. > > > > For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet > with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > > > You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. > > I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. > > Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Chuck McCown" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. > > > > *From:* Mike Hammett > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > > > Not having breakfast is part of your problem. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > > *From: *"Chuck McCown" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect > on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t > think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you > metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and > veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want > meat. > > > > I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the > numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal > microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. > Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the > blood sugar is up. > > > > Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight > through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. > > > > *From:* Bill Prince > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > > > You ought to read "*The Big Fat Surprise*" by Nina Teicholz ( > https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). > > Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when > he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it > he asserted that the s
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I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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There's a process called a fecal transplant.it's exactly what it sounds like. They do it when you're gut bacteria are all killed off somehow. Maybe you could find a way to get your gut biome slaughtered and then find your donor of choice. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/22/2017 7:31:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From:Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From:Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -------------------- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ---- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425 <https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425>). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he publ
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If I thought it would help I would do it. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There's a process called a fecal transplant.it's exactly what it sounds like. They do it when you're gut bacteria are all killed off somehow. Maybe you could find a way to get your gut biome slaughtered and then find your donor of choice. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/22/2017 7:31:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyo
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You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. *From:*Mike Hammett *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------ *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. *From:*Bill Prince *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "/The Big Fat Surprise/" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425
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I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar
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That can actually be arranged. They've also taken the gut biome samples of a calm mouse, injected it into a skittish one, and a week later had two calm mice. On Jan 22, 2017 6:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar > addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. > > On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. >> Not so good at solving arguments. >> >> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> I completely agree with this. >> >> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to >> happen. >> >> >> >> For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet >> with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> >> You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. >> >> I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. >> >> Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate >> quantities. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> >> *From: *"Chuck McCown" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. >> >> >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> >> Not having breakfast is part of your problem. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> >> *From: *"Chuck McCown" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect >> on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t >> think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you >> metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and >> veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want >> meat. >> >> >> >> I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but >> the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakf
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Can you get me some Stanford or MIT PhD in physics or EE shit? From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] That can actually be arranged. They've also taken the gut biome samples of a calm mouse, injected it into a skittish one, and a week later had two calm mice. On Jan 22, 2017 6:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many fac
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Yes there are MANY that spike an insulin response. Check this list, but be sure to crosscheck... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/5lrp3l/sweeteners_and_keto_with_all_the_new_people_for/&ved=0ahUKEwi2vpraidfRAhWL24MKHfS2A6sQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNEE4QelKK0Miw_BHvtvBsrNWpijOg&sig2=gV5SId36yA_lTNaTq2Lv4g On Jan 22, 2017 6:47 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating > that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is > an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the > intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). > > > bp > > > > On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar > addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. > > On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. >> Not so good at solving arguments. >> >> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> I completely agree with this. >> >> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to >> happen. >> >> >> >> For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet >> with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> >> You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. >> >> I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. >> >> Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate >> quantities. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> >> *From: *"Chuck McCown" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. >> >> >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> >> Not having breakfast is part of your problem. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> >> *From: *"Chuck McCown" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] &g
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Don't all studies disagree with all other studies? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today. Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head. bp On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
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Skip the artificial sweeteners & eat some meat. Get your gut back into normal. bp On 1/22/2017 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. *From:*Mike Hammett *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -------------------- *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps me
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I eat a bit. Fish. A bit or two of whatever my wife is eating. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Skip the artificial sweeteners & eat some meat. Get your gut back into normal. bp On 1/22/2017 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through since the holidays. Just started the final season yesterday. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies.
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genetics is a bitch... On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. *From:*Mike Hammett *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -------------------- *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much. And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat. I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up. Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaki
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Yah. They haven't proved it yet, but I believe that artificial sweeteners can contribute to insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. Personally, I can't stand the taste of artificial sweeteners. They leave some kind of metallic taste in my mouth. bp On 1/22/2017 5:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Yes there are MANY that spike an insulin response. Check this list, but be sure to crosscheck... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/5lrp3l/sweeteners_and_keto_with_all_the_new_people_for/&ved=0ahUKEwi2vpraidfRAhWL24MKHfS2A6sQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNEE4QelKK0Miw_BHvtvBsrNWpijOg&sig2=gV5SId36yA_lTNaTq2Lv4g On Jan 22, 2017 6:47 PM, "Bill Prince" <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ---- *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. *From:*Mike Hammett *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -------- *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health,
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Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break down to sugar), fat resources. Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will naturally start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a sample of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or not. On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" wrote: > genetics is a bitch... > > On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for >> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a >> <1000 cal diet. >> >> *From:* Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> >> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating >> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there >> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of >> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). >> >> >> >> bp >> >> >> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. >>> >>> *From:* Josh Reynolds >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>> >>> There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, >>> sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. >>> >>> On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: >>> >>> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. >>> Not so good at solving arguments. >>> >>> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>> >>> >>> I completely agree with this. >>> >>> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you >>> want to happen. >>> >>> >>> >>> For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based >>> diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>> >>> >>> >>> You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. >>> >>> I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. >>> >>> Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate >>> quantities. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin. >>> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>> >>> Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*Mike Hammett >>> >>> *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM >>> >>> *To:*af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>> >>> >>> >>> Not having breakfast is part of your problem. >>> >>&
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chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier than any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed by bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to me, the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones ingested in everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated globally. GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified food, it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth is flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of nonsense On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break down > to sugar), fat resources. > > Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will naturally > start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a sample > of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or not. > > On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" wrote: > >> genetics is a bitch... >> >> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for >>> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a >>> <1000 cal diet. >>> >>> *From:* Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>> >>> >>> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating >>> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there >>> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of >>> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>>> >>>> There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, >>>> sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. >>>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: >>>> >>>> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. >>>> Not so good at solving arguments. >>>> >>>> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>>> >>>> >>>> I completely agree with this. >>>> >>>> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you >>>> want to happen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based >>>> diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. >>>> >>>> I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. >>>> >>>> Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate >>>> quantities. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In >>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/ >>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com >>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>
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A lot of the hormone, pesticide, and antibiotics problems will go away with lab grown meat. It is going to allow flavor and fat replication, 99% less land use, 80% less emissions, only 30% of the overall energy requirements (fuel, heat, etc), less pesticide usage (have to feed those animals), no hormone usage, and the complete removal of antibiotic usage that are currently causing antibiotic resistant bacteria. Oh, and it will cost less. One of the current hangups is what preservative to use to prevent fungal growth.. potassium sorbate is a genotoxin, but there are other things they are looking in to. In the next 20 years (maybe less), say goodbye to: Most coal miners (alternative energy increases) Most OTR truckers (will need them for the last few miles, most likely) Most taxi drivers Most cattle ranchers (there will still be some of course) Quite a few farmers (less need for crops) Most factory jobs (except for programmers, robiticists, skilled machinists, engineers, etc) On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails > > lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier than > any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed by > bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to me, > the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones ingested in > everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated globally. > GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified food, > it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth is > flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of nonsense > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break down >> to sugar), fat resources. >> >> Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will naturally >> start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a sample >> of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or not. >> >> On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" wrote: >>> >>> genetics is a bitch... >>> >>> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for >>>> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a >>>> <1000 cal diet. >>>> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>>> >>>> >>>> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating >>>> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there >>>> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of >>>> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>>>> >>>>> There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, >>>>> sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. >>>>> Not so good at solving arguments. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I completely agree with this. >>>>> >>>>> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you >>>>> want to happen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based >>>>> diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>&
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I wish 20 years were realistic to meet those goal, more like a century. too many "activists". If you can match the taste, texture, and juice of a ribeye with all the same cooking qualities, I dont care if its soylent green. The 20 year list, especially in the factory jobs is not based on any real number other than an extreme faith in technology i would guess. If we ever did get to the point you describe, a socialist government would be feasible, potentially even sustainable, and it would be met with extreme violence. In my perfect world we figure out the sticky guts that hold everything together so everything can be recycles. Want a steak, look up the recipe for the number of electrons, protons, neutrons, whatever ons you need, dump them in the black box with some of the goo glue. Take your dump right into a recycler that separates everything back into base components. Full nuclear power to keep the grinders running since we would be able to separate everything back into the base units we can clean up the radiation. Fallout is a great series, Ive played it from the beginning, f*%k virtual reality, in my future we play in real time On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > A lot of the hormone, pesticide, and antibiotics problems will go away > with lab grown meat. It is going to allow flavor and fat replication, > 99% less land use, 80% less emissions, only 30% of the overall energy > requirements (fuel, heat, etc), less pesticide usage (have to feed > those animals), no hormone usage, and the complete removal of > antibiotic usage that are currently causing antibiotic resistant > bacteria. Oh, and it will cost less. One of the current hangups is > what preservative to use to prevent fungal growth.. potassium sorbate > is a genotoxin, but there are other things they are looking in to. > > In the next 20 years (maybe less), say goodbye to: > Most coal miners (alternative energy increases) > Most OTR truckers (will need them for the last few miles, most likely) > Most taxi drivers > Most cattle ranchers (there will still be some of course) > Quite a few farmers (less need for crops) > Most factory jobs (except for programmers, robiticists, skilled > machinists, engineers, etc) > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails > > > > lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier than > > any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed by > > bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to me, > > the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones > ingested in > > everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated > globally. > > GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified > food, > > it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth is > > flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of nonsense > > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> > >> Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break down > >> to sugar), fat resources. > >> > >> Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will > naturally > >> start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a > sample > >> of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or not. > >> > >> On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" wrote: > >>> > >>> genetics is a bitch... > >>> > >>> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas > for > >>>> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a > >>>> <1000 cal diet. > >>>> > >>>> *From:* Bill Prince > >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM > >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is > indicating > >>>> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and > there > >>>> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of > >>>> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> bp > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >>>>>
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Look at the past 50 years from a technology, socio-economic, medical, and communications standpoint. If you still believe it's going to take 100 years after considering that, I'd be surprised. It's possible though. On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > I wish 20 years were realistic to meet those goal, more like a century. too > many "activists". If you can match the taste, texture, and juice of a ribeye > with all the same cooking qualities, I dont care if its soylent green. > The 20 year list, especially in the factory jobs is not based on any real > number other than an extreme faith in technology i would guess. If we ever > did get to the point you describe, a socialist government would be feasible, > potentially even sustainable, and it would be met with extreme violence. > > In my perfect world we figure out the sticky guts that hold everything > together so everything can be recycles. Want a steak, look up the recipe for > the number of electrons, protons, neutrons, whatever ons you need, dump them > in the black box with some of the goo glue. Take your dump right into a > recycler that separates everything back into base components. Full nuclear > power to keep the grinders running since we would be able to separate > everything back into the base units we can clean up the radiation. > > Fallout is a great series, Ive played it from the beginning, f*%k virtual > reality, in my future we play in real time > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> A lot of the hormone, pesticide, and antibiotics problems will go away >> with lab grown meat. It is going to allow flavor and fat replication, >> 99% less land use, 80% less emissions, only 30% of the overall energy >> requirements (fuel, heat, etc), less pesticide usage (have to feed >> those animals), no hormone usage, and the complete removal of >> antibiotic usage that are currently causing antibiotic resistant >> bacteria. Oh, and it will cost less. One of the current hangups is >> what preservative to use to prevent fungal growth.. potassium sorbate >> is a genotoxin, but there are other things they are looking in to. >> >> In the next 20 years (maybe less), say goodbye to: >> Most coal miners (alternative energy increases) >> Most OTR truckers (will need them for the last few miles, most likely) >> Most taxi drivers >> Most cattle ranchers (there will still be some of course) >> Quite a few farmers (less need for crops) >> Most factory jobs (except for programmers, robiticists, skilled >> machinists, engineers, etc) >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm >> wrote: >> > chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails >> > >> > lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier >> > than >> > any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed by >> > bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to >> > me, >> > the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones >> > ingested in >> > everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated >> > globally. >> > GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified >> > food, >> > it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth is >> > flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of >> > nonsense >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break >> >> down >> >> to sugar), fat resources. >> >> >> >> Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will >> >> naturally >> >> start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a >> >> sample >> >> of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or >> >> not. >> >> >> >> On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" wrote: >> >>> >> >>> genetics is a bitch... >> >>> >> >>> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas >> >>>> for >> >>>> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was >> >>>> a >> >>>> <1000 cal diet. >> >>>> >> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince >> >>&
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ng to allow flavor and fat replication, > >> 99% less land use, 80% less emissions, only 30% of the overall energy > >> requirements (fuel, heat, etc), less pesticide usage (have to feed > >> those animals), no hormone usage, and the complete removal of > >> antibiotic usage that are currently causing antibiotic resistant > >> bacteria. Oh, and it will cost less. One of the current hangups is > >> what preservative to use to prevent fungal growth.. potassium sorbate > >> is a genotoxin, but there are other things they are looking in to. > >> > >> In the next 20 years (maybe less), say goodbye to: > >> Most coal miners (alternative energy increases) > >> Most OTR truckers (will need them for the last few miles, most likely) > >> Most taxi drivers > >> Most cattle ranchers (there will still be some of course) > >> Quite a few farmers (less need for crops) > >> Most factory jobs (except for programmers, robiticists, skilled > >> machinists, engineers, etc) > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > >> wrote: > >> > chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails > >> > > >> > lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier > >> > than > >> > any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed > by > >> > bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to > >> > me, > >> > the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones > >> > ingested in > >> > everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated > >> > globally. > >> > GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified > >> > food, > >> > it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth > is > >> > flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of > >> > nonsense > >> > > >> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break > >> >> down > >> >> to sugar), fat resources. > >> >> > >> >> Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will > >> >> naturally > >> >> start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a > >> >> sample > >> >> of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or > >> >> not. > >> >> > >> >> On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> genetics is a bitch... > >> >>> > >> >>> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas > >> >>>> for > >> >>>> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped > was > >> >>>> a > >> >>>> <1000 cal diet. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince > >> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM > >> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com > >> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is > >> >>>> indicating > >> >>>> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and > >> >>>> there > >> >>>> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite > of > >> >>>> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> bp > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds > >> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM > >> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com > >> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > >> &
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New studies suggest that eating less is the key for longer life https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hunger-gains-a-new-idea-of-why-eating-less-increases-life-span/ From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 8:49 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ____ From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/you
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I don't know many many people in their 80's or 90's that are very overweight. Gino Villarini wrote: New studies suggest that eating less is the key for longer life https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hunger-gains-a-new-idea-of-why-eating-less-increases-life-span/ From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 8:49 PM To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] *//* */Gino Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). bp On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. Not so good at solving arguments. *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I completely agree with this. You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen. For me, I�m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> -------------------- *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. *From:*Mike Hammett *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM *To:*af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] Not having breakfast is part of your problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on your health, pretty sure
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Weekend's over, how about a sprinkling of on-topic posts so I can stop just doing mass deletes? If you want people to keep combing through the used straw, there has to occasionally be a pony in there. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 7:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] I don't know many many people in their 80's or 90's that are very overweight. Gino Villarini wrote: > New studies suggest that eating less is the key for longer life > > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hunger-gains-a-new-idea-of- > why-eating-less-increases-life-span/ > > > From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on > behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Date: Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 8:49 PM > To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > *//* > > */Gino Villarini/* > > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas > for a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped > was a <1000 cal diet. > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] > > You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is > indicating that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. > That and there is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have > the opposite of the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain). > > bp > > > On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy. >> *From:* Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] There are >> interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar >> addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health. >> On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: >> >> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs. >> Not so good at solving arguments. >> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> I completely agree with this. >> >> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you >> want to happen. >> >> For me, I�m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant >> based diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-) >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want. >> >> I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc. >> >> Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate >> quantities. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputi ngSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-so lutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest -internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >> >> - >> --- >> >> *From: *"Chuck McCown" >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion] >> >> Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K. >> >> *From:*Mike Hammett >> >> *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com >> >>