[AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Hi Craig Every ePMP radio manufactured goes through a functional test where radios are configured as a SM and registered to a golden AP inside a RF chamber. After a good signal RF link is established a quick iPERF test is run to verify traffic via Ethernet and RF. This ensures validation of RF connections Ethernet. This functional test is the last step after the units are assembled but the units also go through board level validation in earlier stages of manufacturing. The factory test procedure went through some updates as new SW releases were made available throughout 2014. Some earlier units built (early 2014) did not verify our micro controller functionality and some errors were observed during SW updates from early 1.4.X releases to 2.0 All in all, we are very closely monitoring any and all quality issues reported by the field and will gladly provide an advanced RMA from engineering to get our hands on any unique HW defects. As of now, our factory functional procedure is designed to catch any blatant HW defects but may not catch the occasional cold solder defect which may be uncovered over time. Unfortunately, putting every ePMP radio through a burn in cycle in the factory would not be economically viable. Ray
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
@Ray When I worked at a factory making tablet computers I was QC in line inspector I would inspect each unit before shell was closed then first 2 units off the line had to pass a bake test and each function was tested in detail after bake test before the line was allowed to move.. Are you guys doing anything like that? — Sent from Mailbox On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Ray Savich ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi Craig Every ePMP radio manufactured goes through a functional test where radios are configured as a SM and registered to a golden AP inside a RF chamber. After a good signal RF link is established a quick iPERF test is run to verify traffic via Ethernet and RF. This ensures validation of RF connections Ethernet. This functional test is the last step after the units are assembled but the units also go through board level validation in earlier stages of manufacturing. The factory test procedure went through some updates as new SW releases were made available throughout 2014. Some earlier units built (early 2014) did not verify our micro controller functionality and some errors were observed during SW updates from early 1.4.X releases to 2.0 All in all, we are very closely monitoring any and all quality issues reported by the field and will gladly provide an advanced RMA from engineering to get our hands on any unique HW defects. As of now, our factory functional procedure is designed to catch any blatant HW defects but may not catch the occasional cold solder defect which may be uncovered over time. Unfortunately, putting every ePMP radio through a burn in cycle in the factory would not be economically viable. Ray
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
back in the day, we had 3 or so 900 mhz radios that would not upgrade to
hardware scheduling from software scheduling. Out of probably 50 radios at the
time. That was the only issue EVER - really...
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
After years of installing FSK radios, we never had one fail that wasn't due
to some kind of external factors (tree falls on SM, bolt slips and SM flips
upside-down and fills with water, Power company voltage doubles (with old-style
transformer PS), etc.
The very first PMP450 SM we installed had a weird problem where it would link
up, test near 100%, but when it came to passing actual customer traffic, it
would fall flat on its face. I was convinced that I had some router or other
problem, tried about a dozen things before I just swapped the SM. Problem
solved, but it did not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the new platform.
Haven't had one fail since though...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 1/25/2015 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
It would be interesting to know what if any radios go through any
functional testing before they ship. Years ago, all electronic devices went
through 100% testing, I’m guessing today very few are even powered up at the
end of the production line. I know I’ve seen a few routerboards with 1 bad
Ethernet port out of the box, and radios that power up with some kind of
warning notice like not calibrated. I do remember a plant tour video from the
Orthogon guys on the testing, burn-in and calibration they do (or at least did
at the time) on every PTP radio. Maybe licensed radios all get tested before
shipment, I don’t know. Maybe airFibers.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
I had a bad SM already. We believe a defective AP as well. I have 8
installed.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:
I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well. Something to
look out for. We've only installed a handful of radios
- Original Message -
From: Craig House
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running
a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30
meg before it would drop
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
Did you ever do a link test with epmp?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net
wrote:
Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2
on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I
tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests
as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not
impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no
problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT
From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel
that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41
customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95%
and better on all customers
So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP
sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.?
From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though
trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the
tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would
be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of
nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless
routers??
From: John
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well. Something to look out for. We've only installed a handful of radios - Original Message - From: Craig House To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re
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I had a bad SM already. We believe a defective AP as well. I have 8 installed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well. Something to look out for. We've only installed a handful of radios - Original Message - *From:* Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 %28410%29%20708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 %28410%29%20708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
It would be interesting to know what if any radios go through any functional testing before they ship. Years ago, all electronic devices went through 100% testing, I’m guessing today very few are even powered up at the end of the production line. I know I’ve seen a few routerboards with 1 bad Ethernet port out of the box, and radios that power up with some kind of warning notice like not calibrated. I do remember a plant tour video from the Orthogon guys on the testing, burn-in and calibration they do (or at least did at the time) on every PTP radio. Maybe licensed radios all get tested before shipment, I don’t know. Maybe airFibers. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I had a bad SM already. We believe a defective AP as well. I have 8 installed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well. Something to look out for. We've only installed a handful of radios - Original Message - From: Craig House To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j
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perhaps powering them up and testing them adds to the price. either way, lessons learned, for us WISPS. - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee It would be interesting to know what if any radios go through any functional testing before they ship. Years ago, all electronic devices went through 100% testing, I’m guessing today very few are even powered up at the end of the production line. I know I’ve seen a few routerboards with 1 bad Ethernet port out of the box, and radios that power up with some kind of warning notice like not calibrated. I do remember a plant tour video from the Orthogon guys on the testing, burn-in and calibration they do (or at least did at the time) on every PTP radio. Maybe licensed radios all get tested before shipment, I don’t know. Maybe airFibers. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I had a bad SM already. We believe a defective AP as well. I have 8 installed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 25, 2015 12:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I understand we have had one or two bad radios as well. Something to look out for. We've only installed a handful of radios - Original Message - From: Craig House To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
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Did you test it in a lab first? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Maybe but considering it's the first one I've purchased but doesn't make me very excited about it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:46, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download
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Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I
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DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen
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Maybe but considering it's the first one I've purchased but doesn't make me very excited about it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:46, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22
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I got them to link up on my living room floor before I took them to the tower same as those the signal was pretty good there but I was also 3 feet from it I remember pulling the plug pretty quick when I saw them link up because I was worried about how hot the link was Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 13:05, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you test it in a lab first? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Maybe but considering it's the first one I've purchased but doesn't make me very excited about it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:46, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode
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3 feet apart you may have blown the radios. Did you have antennas hooked up? I think once it gets hit with -10 it would have caused damage, I don't think it matters the duration. Could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I got them to link up on my living room floor before I took them to the tower same as those the signal was pretty good there but I was also 3 feet from it I remember pulling the plug pretty quick when I saw them link up because I was worried about how hot the link was Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 13:05, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you test it in a lab first? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Maybe but considering it's the first one I've purchased but doesn't make me very excited about it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:46, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal
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Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS
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Sounds like you're stuck. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 7:56am To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I did that no improvement in the spectrum analyzer other than at the channel where the FSK was located still pretty much an average of -66 or worse Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 06:48, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: Power down the omni and see if your results improve. FSK is far more robust in noisy environments. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi [ http://www.delmarvawifi.com ]( http://www.delmarvawifi.com ) cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 7:25am To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi [ http://www.delmarvawifi.com ]( http://www.delmarvawifi.com ) cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi [ http://www.delmarvawifi.com ]( http://www.delmarvawifi.com ) cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [ http://www.ics-il.com ]( http://www.ics-il.com ) [ ]( https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL )[ ]( https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb )[ ]( https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions )[ ]( https://twitter.com/ICSIL ) From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) To: [ af@afmug.com
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Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? - Original Message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? - Original Message - From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: blockquote Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: blockquote I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
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I did that no improvement in the spectrum analyzer other than at the channel where the FSK was located still pretty much an average of -66 or worse Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 06:48, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Power down the omni and see if your results improve. FSK is far more robust in noisy environments. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 7:25am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent
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Power down the omni and see if your results improve. FSK is far more robust in noisy environments. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 7:25am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi [ http://www.delmarvawifi.com ]( http://www.delmarvawifi.com ) cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [ http://www.ics-il.com ]( http://www.ics-il.com ) [ ]( https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL )[ ]( https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb )[ ]( https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions )[ ]( https://twitter.com/ICSIL ) From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: [ 937-552-2340 ]( tel:937-552-2340 ) Direct: [ 937-552-2343 ]( tel:937-552-2343 ) 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access
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Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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I probably could do that in the middle of the night Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:35, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Just curious ; can you turn the other 2.4 off for 5 minutes and see if your quality improves? - Original Message - From: Craig House To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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The radio for the subscriber unit was in my vehicle I didn't leave it at a customer site today I was only doing testing with it and don't have it out in the field anymore Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:15, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do a link test? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 7:59 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield [ john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ]( mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz ) wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi [ http://www.delmarvawifi.com ]( http://www.delmarvawifi.com ) cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [ http://www.ics-il.com ]( http://www.ics-il.com ) [ ]( https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL )[ ]( https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb )[ ]( https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions )[ ]( https://twitter.com/ICSIL ) From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: [ 937-552-2340 ]( tel:937-552-2340 ) Direct: [ 937-552-2343 ]( tel:937-552-2343 ) 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? - Original Message - From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: blockquote Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: blockquote I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
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Lots of 2.4 stuff (whole farm WiFi) sold in the back of farm magazines. From: Craig House Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? From: John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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They're both openwrt Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 7:03 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I guess I've never used a UBNT spec analyzer tools -- *From: *Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:02:08 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Much like UBNT Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
[AFMUG] Epmp newbee
I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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I cant find any option that allows it uner Monitor Network . I think you may be right that it only works in WIFI mode not TDD but I cant find where to turn it back into WIFI mode now that it is in TDD? There is Ubnt 2.4 and Cambium 2.4 on this same tower but they are on 2457 and 2442. The EPMP is on 2412. Very rural area so I doubt there is that much noise. I can turn the AP into SPectrum analizer mode and see. I'll report back - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Config radio to switch modes Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:51 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I cant find any option that allows it uner Monitor Network . I think you may be right that it only works in WIFI mode not TDD but I cant find where to turn it back into WIFI mode now that it is in TDD? There is Ubnt 2.4 and Cambium 2.4 on this same tower but they are on 2457 and 2442. The EPMP is on 2412. Very rural area so I doubt there is that much noise. I can turn the AP into SPectrum analizer mode and see. I'll report back -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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I guess I've never used a UBNT spec analyzer tools - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:02:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Much like UBNT Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: blockquote I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Much like UBNT Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.netmailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.netmailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Where? Do you mean from TDD to Wifi? I cant seem to find that option - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:00:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Config radio to switch modes Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:51 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I cant find any option that allows it uner Monitor Network . I think you may be right that it only works in WIFI mode not TDD but I cant find where to turn it back into WIFI mode now that it is in TDD? There is Ubnt 2.4 and Cambium 2.4 on this same tower but they are on 2457 and 2442. The EPMP is on 2412. Very rural area so I doubt there is that much noise. I can turn the AP into SPectrum analizer mode and see. I'll report back From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: blockquote I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Do a link test? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 7:59 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett [ af...@ics-il.net ]( mailto:af...@ics-il.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions [ http://www.ics-il.com ]( http://www.ics-il.com ) [ ]( https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL )[ ]( https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb )[ ]( https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions )[ ]( https://twitter.com/ICSIL ) From: Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman [ j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ]( mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com ) To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: [ 937-552-2340 ]( tel:937-552-2340 ) Direct: [ 937-552-2343 ]( tel:937-552-2343 ) 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House [ cr...@totalhighspeed.net ]( mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net ) wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Just curious ; can you turn the other 2.4 off for 5 minutes and see if your quality improves? - Original Message - From: Craig House To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
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Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I can make it connect as long as I know the SSID. But what is the trick to making it show available SS IDs to connect to sort of like the scan available access points feature in ubiquity? The second question is that even a very close distances and was very good signals like -53 I have difficulty getting good uplink capacity the quality seems to be reasonable 90% or above but the capacity varies from 15% to 45% most of the time and it's obvious in the speed test that the uplink is not doing what it should What am I doing wrong photo is attached of what I'm talking about in the second question Sent from my iPhone
