Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-12-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
awesome

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Robert Andrews 
wrote:

> I thought that was the Network News studios when Trump started to pull out
> ahead for good...
>
> On 12/01/2016 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> UBNT HQ when Cambium announced:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jf2hOkec4
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:04 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>> i am very disappointed in the ubnt forum, i just went there expecting
>> hours of enetertainment, one thread, one lame thread thats mostly
>> screenshots of the webinar. maybe every fanboys head exploded, whatever
>> will ubnt do without their fanboys harrassing general members of the
>> community seeking support. This is unacceptable, completely ridiculous,
>> Im going to go on strike
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> You don’t like Cambiquiti?  In either case, ePMP Man is not
>> amused.
>>
>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/
>> bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG
>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/
>> attachments/bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:28 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>>
>> 
>>
>> Ubium.Has a ring to it
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 5:24 PM, "Mathew Howard" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with
>> me, I don't want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Watch the webinar.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.
>> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>__
>> __
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>>         *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM
>>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>>
>> *From:*Mathew Howard 
>>
>> *To:*af 
>>
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> 
>>
>> Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with
>> a 2.4ghz AP with working sync in the next few months,
>> our entire network is going ePMP.
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>>
>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just
>> upped the bar substantially. The market had a very
>> serious issue, and they solved it, while still
>> generating substantial revenue. Im curious what
>> their profit per hardware unit sold is compared to
>> the profit per license, with 

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-12-01 Thread Robert Andrews
I thought that was the Network News studios when Trump started to pull 
out ahead for good...


On 12/01/2016 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

UBNT HQ when Cambium announced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jf2hOkec4
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
i am very disappointed in the ubnt forum, i just went there expecting
hours of enetertainment, one thread, one lame thread thats mostly
screenshots of the webinar. maybe every fanboys head exploded, whatever
will ubnt do without their fanboys harrassing general members of the
community seeking support. This is unacceptable, completely ridiculous,
Im going to go on strike
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

You don’t like Cambiquiti?  In either case, ePMP Man is not amused.


http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG

<http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG>





*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:28 PM
*To:* Animal Farm 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?



Ubium.Has a ring to it



On Nov 30, 2016 5:24 PM, "Mathew Howard" 
wrote:

The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with
me, I don't want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

Watch the webinar.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>


<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>




*From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
    *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM


*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?





Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?

- Original Message - 

*From:*Mathew Howard 

*To:*af 

        *Sent:*Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with
a 2.4ghz AP with working sync in the next few months,
our entire network is going ePMP.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just
upped the bar substantially. The market had a very
serious issue, and they solved it, while still
generating substantial revenue. Im curious what
their profit per hardware unit sold is compared to
the profit per license, with no real liability.
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus
efforts on real sync that actually works and get an
actual legitimate support channel. Or even better,
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and
work out a discount for AP licenses through them for
their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying
"meh, our products are good"



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
 wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik
thing, basically you can run a Mikrotik CPE
network and be GPS synchronized then...



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson
 wrote:


ePMP Elevate Compati

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-12-01 Thread Chuck McCown
UBNT HQ when Cambium announced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jf2hOkec4

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

i am very disappointed in the ubnt forum, i just went there expecting hours of 
enetertainment, one thread, one lame thread thats mostly screenshots of the 
webinar. maybe every fanboys head exploded, whatever will ubnt do without their 
fanboys harrassing general members of the community seeking support. This is 
unacceptable, completely ridiculous, Im going to go on strike

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  You don’t like Cambiquiti?  In either case, ePMP Man is not amused.

  
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG





  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:28 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?



  Ubium.Has a ring to it



  On Nov 30, 2016 5:24 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with me, I don't 
want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Watch the webinar.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM


  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

   



  Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?

- Original Message - 

From: Mathew Howard 

To: af 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP 
with working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you 
can run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

  ePMP Elevate Compatibility
  check the Release Notes for complete details

a.. Loco M5 XW 
b.. Loco M5 XM 
c.. NanoStation M5 XW 
d.. NanoStation M5 XM 
e.. NanoBridge M5 XM 
f.. Rocket M5 XM 
g.. Rocket M5 XW 
h.. Powerbeam M5 XW 
i.. Airgrid M5HP XW 
j.. Airgrid M5 XM 
k.. NanoBeam M5 XW
  ePMP Elevate Developments
  RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
a.. XM + XW model 
b.. Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
  RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
a.. MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
b.. RB911G5HPnDQRT 
c.. RBSXT5nDr2 
d.. RB912UAG5HPnDOT
  2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
  DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017





  Jason Wilson

  Remotely Located

  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

  530-651-1736

  530-748-9608 Cell

  www.remotelylocated.com



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
 wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason 
Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com
        Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down 
the road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a 
time/cash saver.






Jason Wilso

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
this is actually a grand opportunity, since the ubnt AP will still be live
and visible (i think) in the in the monitor - wireless, a direct software
interpretation comparison
wanna bet the noise floor isnt -93 or -91 on every unit anymore. I always
wondered if the noise floor is just a random choice generator between those
two numbers

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> At least part of it seems to be differences in how they calculate signal
> levels. It will be interesting to compare a Force 200 and a PowerBeam
> running the same software.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT -
>> at least from my field guys.
>> I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Jon Langeler 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>
>> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
>> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
>> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
>> a ton of time and money.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>>>
>>> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your
>>> licenses to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>>>
>>> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
>>> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
>>> markets
>>>
>>> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
>>> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mikrotik?
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, 
>>>>> this
>>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
>>>>>> SW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One
>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>>> access
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst..

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i am very disappointed in the ubnt forum, i just went there expecting hours
of enetertainment, one thread, one lame thread thats mostly screenshots of
the webinar. maybe every fanboys head exploded, whatever will ubnt do
without their fanboys harrassing general members of the community seeking
support. This is unacceptable, completely ridiculous, Im going to go on
strike

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> You don’t like Cambiquiti?  In either case, ePMP Man is not amused.
>
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/
> bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:28 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>
>
>
> Ubium.Has a ring to it
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 5:24 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:
>
> The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with me, I
> don't want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
> Watch the webinar.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM
>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>
> 
>
>
>
> Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>
> *To:* af 
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with
> working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>
> *check the Release Notes for complete details*
>
>- *Loco M5 XW*
>- *Loco M5 XM*
>- *NanoStation M5 XW*
>- *NanoStation M5 XM*
>- *NanoBridge M5 XM*
>- *Rocket M5 XM*
>- *Rocket M5 XW*
>- *Powerbeam M5 XW*
>- *Airgrid M5HP XW*
>- *Airgrid M5 XM*
>- *NanoBeam M5 XW*
>
> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>
>- XM + XW model
>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>
> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>
>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>- RBSXT5nDr2
>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>
> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>
> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  w

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
yes this was before force 200, only option was reflectors at the time. I
did a direct swap of the radio mount on the existing reflectors with 450
radios in them and never even re-aligned a dish, running much better now
for these 15 customers I had on this tower.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Thanks for the response. Out of curiosity was this before the force 200
> was available for 2.4? We have been using lots of force 200 in 2.4 and
> having good luck with LOS and NLOS locations.  I can count on one hand
> where we can use the integrated units however.
>
> We never did get into the reflectors and other options.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> Brandon,
>
>
>
> Yes I had a tower that was EPMP 2.4 before I converter it to 450 and the
> 450 is running much better. The ePMP really only worked in LOS and very
> limited would work on some NLOS links. I even had trouble with the EPMP on
> some LOS links.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> Have you tested the ePMP 2.4 as well?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> 2.4ghz PMP450 penetrates better than UBNT 2.4. Don't know if its the slant
> polarization helping or what.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT -
> at least from my field guys.
>
> I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Jon Langeler 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?
>
> Jon Langeler
>
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
> a ton of time and money.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>
>
>
> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>
>
>
> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
> markets
>
>
>
> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
> might give us a better window
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>
>
>
> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torc

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Thanks for the response. Out of curiosity was this before the force 200 was 
available for 2.4? We have been using lots of force 200 in 2.4 and having good 
luck with LOS and NLOS locations.  I can count on one hand where we can use the 
integrated units however. 

We never did get into the reflectors and other options.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

Brandon, 

 

Yes I had a tower that was EPMP 2.4 before I converter it to 450 and the 450 is 
running much better. The ePMP really only worked in LOS and very limited would 
work on some NLOS links. I even had trouble with the EPMP on some LOS links.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Kurt,

Have you tested the ePMP 2.4 as well?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

2.4ghz PMP450 penetrates better than UBNT 2.4. Don't know if its the slant 
polarization helping or what.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

 

Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT - at 
least from my field guys.

I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jon Langeler <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>  

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both UBNT 
and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the UBNT CPE 
with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us a ton of time 
and money.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all 

 

they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses to an 
existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA

 

Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really hot 
product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin markets

 

Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a restructuring? 
Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson  wrote:

Mikrotik?

 

On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with 
an Intel Core isn't it?  

 

Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/

 

Very interesting indeed... very interesting. 

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat  
wrote:

This ought to shake things up a bit.  

 

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/

 


 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/> 

 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/> /

www.businesswire.com

/

 

 





 

-- 

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 

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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Same CPU, so that's nice.

The Beam5 isn't as good of an antenna and almost certainly has less
shielding/filtering.

Really it enables you to move 30 customers over to an EPMP AP and if you
need to replace a few bad eggs you can do that in the next few days or
weeks.  Having a good AP with sync and TDD will just feel so good in
comparison.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
> a ton of time and money.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>>
>> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
>> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>>
>> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
>> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
>> markets
>>
>> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
>> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mikrotik?
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>> access
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>
>>>>> /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Brandon,

Yes I had a tower that was EPMP 2.4 before I converter it to 450 and the
450 is running much better. The ePMP really only worked in LOS and very
limited would work on some NLOS links. I even had trouble with the EPMP on
some LOS links.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Kurt,
>
> Have you tested the ePMP 2.4 as well?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> 2.4ghz PMP450 penetrates better than UBNT 2.4. Don't know if its the slant
> polarization helping or what.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT -
> at least from my field guys.
>
> I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Jon Langeler 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?
>
> Jon Langeler
>
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
> a ton of time and money.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>
>
>
> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>
>
>
> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
> markets
>
>
>
> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
> might give us a better window
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>
>
>
> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
>
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
> wrote:
>
> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
>
> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> www.businesswire.com
>
> /
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
You don’t like Cambiquiti?  In either case, ePMP Man is not amused.

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/bstrc49894/forums_epmp_1000/8020/1/IMG_3508.JPG

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:28 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

 

Ubium.Has a ring to it

 

On Nov 30, 2016 5:24 PM, "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with me, I don't 
want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:

Watch the webinar.



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From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

 

 

Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?

- Original Message - 

From: Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>  

To: af <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with 
working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com> > wrote:


ePMP Elevate Compatibility


check the Release Notes for complete details

*   Loco M5 XW 
*   Loco M5 XM 
*   NanoStation M5 XW 
*   NanoStation M5 XM 
*   NanoBridge M5 XM 
*   Rocket M5 XM 
*   Rocket M5 XW 
*   Powerbeam M5 XW 
*   Airgrid M5HP XW 
*   Airgrid M5 XM 
*   NanoBeam M5 XW


ePMP Elevate Developments


RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE


*   XM + XW model 
*   Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016


RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017


*   MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
*   RB911G5HPnDQRT 
*   RBSXT5nDr2 
*   RB912UAG5HPnDOT


2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017


DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017





  
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag 
von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.




  
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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ubium.Has a ring to it

On Nov 30, 2016 5:24 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with me, I
> don't want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Watch the webinar.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>>
>> 
>>
>> Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *To:* af 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with
>> working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>
>>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>>
>>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>>
>>>>> ePMP Elevate Developments RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>
>>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>>    - Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>
>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>
>>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>>>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
At least part of it seems to be differences in how they calculate signal
levels. It will be interesting to compare a Force 200 and a PowerBeam
running the same software.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT -
> at least from my field guys.
> I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jon Langeler 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
> a ton of time and money.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>>
>> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
>> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>>
>> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
>> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
>> markets
>>
>> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
>> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mikrotik?
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>> access
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>
>>>>> /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
The website says end of Q1 2017 for 2.4ghz - which is fine with me, I don't
want to start replacing APs in the winter anyway.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Watch the webinar.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?
>
> 
>
> Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *To:* af 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with
> working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run
>>> a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>
>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>
>>>> ePMP Elevate Developments RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>
>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>
>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>
>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>    - RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>
>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tuned in to the last half of

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Watch the webinar. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:41:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ? 

 

Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz? 



- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Howard 
To: af 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with 
working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP. 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good" 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then... 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 




ePMP Elevate Compatibility 

check the Release Notes for complete details 

* Loco M5 XW 
* Loco M5 XM 
* NanoStation M5 XW 
* NanoStation M5 XM 
* NanoBridge M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XW 
* Powerbeam M5 XW 
* Airgrid M5HP XW 
* Airgrid M5 XM 
* NanoBeam M5 XW 
ePMP Elevate Developments 
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE 


* XM + XW model 
* Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016 
RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017 


* MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
* RB911G5HPnDQRT 
* RBSXT5nDr2 
* RB912UAG5HPnDOT 
2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017 







Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt < s...@genias.net > wrote: 





Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-)) 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works. From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver. 






Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 


Mikrotik? 





On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Compatible doesn't mean "same". Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with an 
Intel Core isn't it? 



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n. 







-- Original Message -- 

From: "Stefan Englhardt" < s...@genias.net > 

To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 






They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW. 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak < jno...@lrcomm.com > wrote: 



I prefer the Cambi

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Kurt,

Have you tested the ePMP 2.4 as well?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

2.4ghz PMP450 penetrates better than UBNT 2.4. Don't know if its the slant 
polarization helping or what.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

 

Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT - at 
least from my field guys.

I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jon Langeler <mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net>  

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?

Jon Langeler

Michwave Technologies, Inc.

 


On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both UBNT 
and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the UBNT CPE 
with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us a ton of time 
and money.

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all 

 

they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses to an 
existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA

 

Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really hot 
product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin markets

 

Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a restructuring? 
Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson  wrote:

Mikrotik?

 

On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with 
an Intel Core isn't it?  

 

Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/

 

Very interesting indeed... very interesting. 

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat  
wrote:

This ought to shake things up a bit.  

 

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/

 


 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/> 

 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/> /

www.businesswire.com

/

 

 





 

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

 

 



Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
2.4ghz PMP450 penetrates better than UBNT 2.4. Don't know if its the slant
polarization helping or what.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT -
> at least from my field guys.
> I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jon Langeler 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
> a ton of time and money.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>>
>> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
>> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>>
>> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
>> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
>> markets
>>
>> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
>> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mikrotik?
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>> access
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>
>>>>> /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

Still the issue of 2.4 EPMP does not seem to penetrate as well as UBNT - at 
least from my field guys.
I know there was some serious discussion on this once upon a time.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jon Langeler 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


  I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.



  On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:


It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both 
UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the UBNT 
CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us a ton of 
time and money.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all


  they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses 
to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA


  Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really 
hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin markets


  Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a 
restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson  
wrote:

Mikrotik?



On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

  we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by 
shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this 
might give us a better window


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is 
compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?  


Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  




-- Original Message --
From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


  They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as 
the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.





  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy 
/sarcasm
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
      An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



  you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus 
wallace  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt 
managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was 
when I signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  
wrote:

  I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/



  Very interesting indeed... very interesting. 



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
 wrote:

This ought to shake things up a bit.  



http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/




 /

  www.businesswire.com

  /
 











-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see 
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see 
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

on the roadmapof course

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ? 



  Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?

- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Howard 
To: af 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with 
working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can 
run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

  ePMP Elevate Compatibility
  check the Release Notes for complete details

a.. Loco M5 XW 
b.. Loco M5 XM 
c.. NanoStation M5 XW 
d.. NanoStation M5 XM 
e.. NanoBridge M5 XM 
f.. Rocket M5 XM 
g.. Rocket M5 XW 
h.. Powerbeam M5 XW 
i.. Airgrid M5HP XW 
j.. Airgrid M5 XM 
k.. NanoBeam M5 XW
  ePMP Elevate Developments
  RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
a.. XM + XW model 
b.. Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
  RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
a.. MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
b.. RB911G5HPnDQRT 
c.. RBSXT5nDr2 
d.. RB912UAG5HPnDOT
  2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
  DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017




  Jason Wilson
  Remotely Located
  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
  530-651-1736
  530-748-9608 Cell
  www.remotelylocated.com


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  
wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the 
road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash 
saver.






Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736

530-748-9608 Cell

www.remotelylocated.com



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

  Mikrotik?



  On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small 
sites by shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, 
this might give us a better window



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

  Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is 
compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?  



  Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  





  -- Original Message --

  From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

  To: "af@afmug.com" 

  Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same 
hardware as the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install 
the same SW.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That 
One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
        An: af@afmug.com
    Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus 
wallace  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt 
managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow to

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! - eh, 2.4 ?

2016-11-30 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

Um, so this is available for both 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


  Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with 
working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

  This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run 
a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

ePMP Elevate Compatibility
check the Release Notes for complete details

  a.. Loco M5 XW
  b.. Loco M5 XM
  c.. NanoStation M5 XW
  d.. NanoStation M5 XM
  e.. NanoBridge M5 XM
  f.. Rocket M5 XM
  g.. Rocket M5 XW
  h.. Powerbeam M5 XW
  i.. Airgrid M5HP XW
  j.. Airgrid M5 XM
  k.. NanoBeam M5 XW
ePMP Elevate Developments
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
  a.. XM + XW model
  b.. Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
  a.. MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
  b.. RB911G5HPnDQRT
  c.. RBSXT5nDr2
  d.. RB912UAG5HPnDOT
2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017




Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  
wrote:

  Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
  An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



  I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the 
road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash 
saver.






  Jason Wilson

  Remotely Located

  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

  530-651-1736

  530-748-9608 Cell

  www.remotelylocated.com



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

Mikrotik?



On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

  we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites 
by shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this 
might give us a better window



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is 
compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?  



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  





-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



  They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware 
as the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
SW.





  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One 
Guy /sarcasm
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
      An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



  you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus 
wallace  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt 
managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar 
was when I signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak 
 wrote:

  I prefer the 

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Jon Langeler
I want to know the throughput comparisons? EPMP vs UBNT now?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
> 
> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both UBNT 
> and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the UBNT 
> CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us a ton 
> of time and money.
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>  wrote:
>> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>> 
>> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses to 
>> an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>> 
>> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really hot 
>> product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin markets
>> 
>> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a 
>> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson  
>>> wrote:
>>> Mikrotik?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by 
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, 
>>>> this might give us a better window
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible 
>>>>> with an Intel Core isn't it?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the 
>>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
>>>>>> SW.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy 
>>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and 
>>>>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers 
>>>>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I 
>>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
>>>>>> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
>>>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
>>>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> 


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Rocket GPS or Rocket Ti? I never had GPS problems with Ti. I did have other 
problems, but not GPS ones. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:47:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 

If they can do 2.5ms frame duration and allow us to fine tune tx/rx start/stop, 
then I'm sure it would be possible to sync with other stuff. 

ePMP on the other hand still needs some of the same knobs. It doesn't exactly 
sync with the 450. Plus you can't do 2.5ms on 10MHz channel width. And I still 
want to see 30MHz channel width support. 

ePMP Elevate software on GPS Rockets is almost pointless. The few GPS Rockets 
we deployed sucked balls. They would constantly lose GPS lock for days at a 
time. Rebooting or power-cycling didn't help. Plus no sync over power. So I'd 
rather just deploy ePMP hardware for the AP/BH anyway. 

We don't have much UBNT PTMP left except for the M365 shit which we're still 
ripping out left and right. But for an operator with lots of deployed M CPEs, 
Elevate makes sense for a fast conversion. 


On 11/30/2016 1:45 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: 


Real-deal sync! The real trick will be them syncing with 450's! :-0 


On 11/30/2016 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 



ptp sync and ptmp sync are two totally different animals 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once it 
gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the same 
platform 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just sync 
like titanium had sync? 








On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping prices low 
that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the Airfiber PTMP 
comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price with the 450 line 
which is sucking my wallet dry everyday. 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus is 
cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson < li...@mtin.net > wrote: 





http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442 
Some Cliff Notes 








Justin Wilson 
j...@mtin.net 


--- 
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO 
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth 


http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman 
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric 




On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net > wrote: 



Someone want to write up the entire thing? What it is etc? how it works vs 
having us all listen to a webinar :? 


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE 

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net 
Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 
Office: 314-735-0270 
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve D 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM 
To: af < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI? 



Learn something new everyday. :p 



-Steve D 



On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



There are probably hardware filters on the RF side. 
bp  

On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 



so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be downconverted 
5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If thats the case 
could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I assume the 
downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would make a 
very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one 
move 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 




25% is what I remember. 





-- Original Message -- 

From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 





That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard. 



On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



If Ubiquitis ma

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Steve D
No.

On Nov 30, 2016 12:41 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Just watch it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Dennis Burgess" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:47:10 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it works
> vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve D
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>
>
>
> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>
>
>
> -Steve D
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
> into epmp in one move
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
> 25% is what I remember.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
> number I heard.
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
> delivered. Lol
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>
> *check the Release Notes for complete details*
>
>- *Loco M5 XW*
>- *Loco M5 XM*
>- *NanoStation M5 XW*
>- *NanoStation M5 XM*
>- *NanoBridge M5 XM*
>- *Rocket M5 XM*
>- *Rocket M5 XW*
>- *Powerbe

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd expect nothing less than "normal" sync. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:24:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just sync 
like titanium had sync? 






On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping prices low 
that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the Airfiber PTMP 
comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price with the 450 line 
which is sucking my wallet dry everyday. 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus is 
cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson < li...@mtin.net > wrote: 





http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442 
Some Cliff Notes 








Justin Wilson 
j...@mtin.net 


--- 
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO 
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth 


http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman 
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric 




On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net > wrote: 



Someone want to write up the entire thing? What it is etc? how it works vs 
having us all listen to a webinar :? 


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE 

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net 
Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 
Office: 314-735-0270 
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Steve D 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM 
To: af < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI? 



Learn something new everyday. :p 



-Steve D 



On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



There are probably hardware filters on the RF side. 
bp  

On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 



so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be downconverted 
5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If thats the case 
could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I assume the 
downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would make a 
very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one 
move 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 




25% is what I remember. 





-- Original Message -- 

From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 





That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard. 



On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making more 
money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good" 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then... 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 



ePMP Elevate Compatibility 

check the Release Notes for complete details 

* Loco M5 XW 
* Loco M5 XM 
* NanoStation M5 XW 
* NanoStation M5 XM 
* NanoBridge M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XW 
* Powerbeam M5 XW 
* Airgrid M5HP XW 
* Airgrid M5

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Just watch it. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Dennis Burgess"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:47:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



Someone want to write up the entire thing? What it is etc? how it works vs 
having us all listen to a webinar :? 


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE 

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net 
Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 
Office: 314-735-0270 
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM 
To: af  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI? 



Learn something new everyday. :p 



-Steve D 



On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 



There are probably hardware filters on the RF side. 
bp  

On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 



so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be downconverted 
5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If thats the case 
could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I assume the 
downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would make a 
very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one 
move 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 




25% is what I remember. 





-- Original Message -- 

From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 





That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard. 



On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > wrote: 



If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making more 
money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good" 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then... 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 



ePMP Elevate Compatibility 

check the Release Notes for complete details 

* Loco M5 XW 
* Loco M5 XM 
* NanoStation M5 XW 
* NanoStation M5 XM 
* NanoBridge M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XW 
* Powerbeam M5 XW 
* Airgrid M5HP XW 
* Airgrid M5 XM 
* NanoBeam M5 XW 
ePMP Elevate Developments 
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE 


* XM + XW model 
* Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016 
RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017 


* MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
* RB911G5HPnDQRT 
* RBSXT5nDr2 
* RB912UAG5HPnDOT 
2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017 







Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt < s...@genias.net > wrote: 




Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-)) 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works. From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver. 






Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 


Mikro

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Hammett
What about PtMP airFiber? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:36:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


maybe ubnt will do the right thing and wholly exit the pmp market, give chuck m 
all those resources to build them into a legitimate ptp provider 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with 
working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP. 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good" 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 





This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then... 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 




ePMP Elevate Compatibility 

check the Release Notes for complete details 

* Loco M5 XW 
* Loco M5 XM 
* NanoStation M5 XW 
* NanoStation M5 XM 
* NanoBridge M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XM 
* Rocket M5 XW 
* Powerbeam M5 XW 
* Airgrid M5HP XW 
* Airgrid M5 XM 
* NanoBeam M5 XW 

ePMP Elevate Developments 
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE 


* XM + XW model 
* Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016 

RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017 


* MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
* RB911G5HPnDQRT 
* RBSXT5nDr2 
* RB912UAG5HPnDOT 

2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017 







Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt < s...@genias.net > wrote: 





Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-)) 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works. From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver. 






Jason Wilson 
Remotely Located 
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608 Cell 
www.remotelylocated.com 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson < ja...@remotelylocated.com > 
wrote: 


Mikrotik? 





On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 



we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Compatible doesn't mean "same". Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with an 
Intel Core isn't it? 



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n. 







-- Original Message -- 

From: "Stefan Englhardt" < s...@genias.net > 

To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 






They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW. 





Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access 



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl 





On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak < jno...@lrcom

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I know they were beta testing the GPS APs, but that was awhile ago and I
haven't heard anything about them since...

I would much rather be able to go to ePMP anyway.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Bitlomat already had that capability, but AFAIK, never got sync or DFS
> going.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:12:16 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
>>> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
The interesting part of that was the guy they hired to do the GPS sync was
the original guy that did it for Motorola - but he couldn't (or for
whatever reason didn't) get it working.

Weird.

On Nov 30, 2016 2:23 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Bitlomat already had that capability, but AFAIK, never got sync or DFS
> going.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
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> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:12:16 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
>>> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Bitlomat already had that capability, but AFAIK, never got sync or DFS going. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:12:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium! 


you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access 


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 



im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak < jno...@lrcomm.com > wrote: 



I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/ 


Very interesting indeed... very interesting. 




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat < tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com > 
wrote: 





This ought to shake things up a bit. 


http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/ 






/ 
www.businesswire.com 
/ 











-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 





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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
We're talking about Airfiber here, which is custom silicon.

If it came out and didn't support GPS sync out even during alpha testing...
Its be like the Cubs winning the World Series, or Donald Trump running for
President.

"Dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!"

On Nov 30, 2016 1:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> ptp sync and ptmp sync are two totally different animals
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once
>> it gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the
>> same platform
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just
>>> sync like titanium had sync?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping
>>>> prices low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
>>>> Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
>>>> with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now
>>>>> jesus is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>>>>>> Some Cliff Notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it
>>>>>> works vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>>>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>>>>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>>>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Steve D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>>>>>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>>>>>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 
>>>>>> 5ghz?
>>>>>> I assu

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
True, but it's not like UBNT has had real working PTP sync on anything
other than the airfiber line... I'm pretty sure those guys know what
they're doing, so I expect it'll work like it should.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ptp sync and ptmp sync are two totally different animals
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once
>> it gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the
>> same platform
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just
>>> sync like titanium had sync?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping
>>>> prices low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
>>>> Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
>>>> with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now
>>>>> jesus is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>>>>>> Some Cliff Notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it
>>>>>> works vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>>>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>>>>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>>>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Steve D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>>>>>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>>>>>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 
>>>>>> 5ghz?
>>>>>> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ptp sync and ptmp sync are two totally different animals

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once
> it gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the
> same platform
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just
>> sync like titanium had sync?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping
>>> prices low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
>>> Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
>>> with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now
>>>> jesus is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>>>>> Some Cliff Notes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it
>>>>> works vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>>>
>>>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>>>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>>>>> *To:* af 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>>>>
>>>>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>>>>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>>>>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 
>>>>> 5ghz?
>>>>> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I 
>>>>> literally
>>>>> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
>>>>> into epmp in one move
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 25% is what I remember.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
its not out yet so we will see, but I would assume it works flawless once
it gets here because it works fine on airfiber PTP and its based on the
same platform

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just
> sync like titanium had sync?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping prices
>> low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
>> Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
>> with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus
>>> is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>>>> Some Cliff Notes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Justin Wilson
>>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>>
>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it
>>>> works vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>>
>>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>>>> *To:* af 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>>>
>>>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>>>
>>>> -Steve D
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>>>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>>>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
>>>> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
>>>> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
>>>> into epmp in one move
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 25% is what I remember.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that
>>>> low though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
>>>> number I heard.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up
>>>> making more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>>>> delivered. Lol
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That O

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
does the airfiber ptmp have functional sync that actually syncs, or just
sync like titanium had sync?



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping prices
> low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
> Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
> with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus
>> is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>>> Some Cliff Notes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Justin Wilson
>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it
>>> works vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>>
>>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>>> *To:* af 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>>
>>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>>
>>> -Steve D
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>
>>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
>>> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
>>> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
>>> into epmp in one move
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 25% is what I remember.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that
>>> low though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
>>> number I heard.
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>>> delivered. Lol
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>> discount

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Hopefulyl UBNT will step up their game now, its crucial to keeping prices
low that there is strong competition among venders. I am hoping the
Airfiber PTMP comes out soon so that this will beat Cambium back on price
with the 450 line which is sucking my wallet dry everyday.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus
> is cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>
>> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
>> Some Cliff Notes
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it works
>> vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve D
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
>> *To:* af 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>>
>> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>>
>> -Steve D
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>
>> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
>> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
>> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
>> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
>> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
>> into epmp in one move
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 25% is what I remember.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
>> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
>> number I heard.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>> delivered. Lol
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run
>> a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>
>> *check the Release Notes for complete details*
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the jist of it is like when Jesus turned water into wine, only now jesus is
cambium, but he wants 35 bucks for the wine

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

> http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442
> Some Cliff Notes
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it works
> vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve D
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>
> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>
> -Steve D
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
> into epmp in one move
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
> 25% is what I remember.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
> number I heard.
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
> delivered. Lol
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>
> *check the Release Notes for complete details*
>
>- *Loco M5 XW*
>- *Loco M5 XM*
>- *NanoStation M5 XW*
>- *NanoStation M5 XM*
>- *NanoBridge M5 XM*
>- *Rocket M5 XM*
>- *Rocket M5 XW*
>- *Powerbeam M5 XW*
>- *Airgrid M5HP XW*
>- *Airgrid M5 XM*
>- *NanoBeam M5 XW*
>
> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>
>- XM + XW model
>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>
> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>
>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>- RBSXT5nDr2
>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>
> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%2

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Justin Wilson
http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442 <http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1442>
Some Cliff Notes



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Dennis Burgess  wrote:
> 
> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it works vs 
> having us all listen to a webinar :?
>  
>  
> Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant 
> <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> – MTCNA, 
> MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>  
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net 
> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
> Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 
> <http://www.towercoverage.com/>
> Office: 314-735-0270
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Steve D
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
> To: af mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>  
> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?  
>  
> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>  
> -Steve D
>  
> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
> 
>  
> 
> bp
> 
>  
> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be 
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If 
> thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I 
> assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally 
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network 
> into epmp in one move
>  
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett  <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 25% is what I remember.
>  
>  
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>  
> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number 
> I heard.
> 
>  
> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making more 
> money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol
>  
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
> still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per 
> hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real 
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real 
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or 
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a 
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume 
> is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>  
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>  
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson  <mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>> wrote:
> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
> 
> check the Release Notes for complete details
> 
> Loco M5 XW
> Loco M5 XM
> NanoStation M5 XW
> NanoStation M5 XM
> NanoBridge M5 XM
> Rocket M5 XM
> Rocket M5 XW
> Powerbeam M5 XW
> Airgrid M5HP XW
> Airgrid M5 XM
> NanoBeam M5 XW
> ePMP Elevate Developments
> 
> RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
> 
> XM + XW model
> Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
> 
> MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
> RB911G5HPnDQRT
> RBSXT5nDr2
> RB912UAG5HPnDOT
> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
> 
> DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the 

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it works vs 
having us all listen to a webinar :?


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant
MikroTik Certified 
Trainer/Consultant<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5>
 – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/>
Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com/>
Office: 314-735-0270
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?

Learn something new everyday.  :p

-Steve D

On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.



bp




On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be downconverted 
5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If thats the case 
could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I assume the 
downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would make a 
very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one 
move

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
25% is what I remember.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard.

On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making more 
money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>> wrote:
ePMP Elevate Compatibility

check the Release Notes for complete details

  *   Loco M5 XW
  *   Loco M5 XM
  *   NanoStation M5 XW
  *   NanoStation M5 XM
  *   NanoBridge M5 XM
  *   Rocket M5 XM
  *   Rocket M5 XW
  *   Powerbeam M5 XW
  *   Airgrid M5HP XW
  *   Airgrid M5 XM
  *   NanoBeam M5 XW

ePMP Elevate Developments
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE

  *   XM + XW model
  *   Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016

RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017

  *   MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
  *   RB911G5HPnDQRT
  *   RBSXT5nDr2
  *   RB912UAG5HPnDOT

2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017

[http://remotelylocated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-Remotely-Located-Logo.jpg]
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag 
von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.

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Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.r

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Steve D
What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?

Learn something new everyday.  :p

-Steve D

On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
> into epmp in one move
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
>> 25% is what I remember.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message ------
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
>> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
>> number I heard.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>>> delivered. Lol
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate Developments RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>>>>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotik

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Ray Savich
The replay of today's webinar is at 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-2000-and-1000/ePMP-Elevate-webinar-replay/m-p/62777#U62777

Ray

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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
so is it possible a guy with a .22 thats a good shot could do an in field
hardware adjustment to remove those components? Just say yes so I can go
around shooting our customers radios

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> That is very nice if it is after tax.
> If it is gross, surprising they can keep the lights on.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> It's a number I read in a article praising UBNT for having an unusually
> high margin for a manufacturer.
> Beyond that I don't know.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:32:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
> Is that an after tax margin or a gross margin?
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> 25% is what I remember.
>
>
> -- Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
> number I heard.
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>> delivered. Lol
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>
>>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>>
>>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>>
>>>>> ePMP Elevate Developments RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>
>>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>
>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>
>>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>&

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Adam Moffett
It's a number I read in a article praising UBNT for having an unusually 
high margin for a manufacturer.

Beyond that I don't know.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:32:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


Is that an after tax margin or a gross margin?

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:30 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

25% is what I remember.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that 
low though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the 
last number I heard.



On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  
wrote:
If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up 
making more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, 
and delivered. Lol


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved 
it, while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what 
their profit per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per 
license, with no real liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to 
really focus efforts on real sync that actually works and get an 
actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, sell their radios 
preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP licenses 
through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:
This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you 
can run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

ePMP Elevate Compatibility
check the Release Notes for complete details

Loco M5 XWLoco M5 XMNanoStation M5 XWNanoStation M5 XMNanoBridge 
M5 XMRocket M5 XMRocket M5 XWPowerbeam M5 XWAirgrid M5HP XWAirgrid 
M5 XMNanoBeam M5 XWePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW 
AVAILABLEXM + XW model Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 
2016RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017MikroTik Support - Alpha 
engagement in Q4, 2016 RB911G5HPnDQRT RBSXT5nDr2 
RB912UAG5HPnDOT2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT 
SUPPORT - Q2, 2017



Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608  Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  
wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the 
road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is 
a time/cash saver.





Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736 

530-748-9608  Cell

www.remotelylocated.com



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:



Mikrotik?



On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:


we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small 
sites by shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP 
APs at the site, this might give us a better window




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:


Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is 
compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?




Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.





-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware 
as the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just 
install the same SW.






Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One 
Guy /sarcasm

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus 
wallace  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to 
work on the ubnt managers here with a pair of pliers and a 
blow torch to get hardware access




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:


im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar 
was when I signed up for it but now im all giddy like a 
school girl




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak 
 wrote:


I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/ 
<http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/>




Very interesting i

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown
That is very nice if it is after tax.
If it is gross, surprising they can keep the lights on.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

It's a number I read in a article praising UBNT for having an unusually high 
margin for a manufacturer.
Beyond that I don't know.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:32:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

  Is that an after tax margin or a gross margin?

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:30 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

  25% is what I remember.


  -- Original Message --
  From: "Josh Reynolds" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard.


On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  
wrote:

  If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making 
more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

  This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can 
run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

ePMP Elevate Compatibility
check the Release Notes for complete details

  a.. Loco M5 XW 
  b.. Loco M5 XM 
  c.. NanoStation M5 XW 
  d.. NanoStation M5 XM 
  e.. NanoBridge M5 XM 
  f.. Rocket M5 XM 
  g.. Rocket M5 XW 
  h.. Powerbeam M5 XW 
  i.. Airgrid M5HP XW 
  j.. Airgrid M5 XM 
  k.. NanoBeam M5 XW
ePMP Elevate Developments
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
  a.. XM + XW model 
  b.. Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
  a.. MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
  b.. RB911G5HPnDQRT 
  c.. RBSXT5nDr2 
  d.. RB912UAG5HPnDOT
2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017




Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  
wrote:

  Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
      An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



  I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the 
road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash 
saver.






  Jason Wilson

  Remotely Located

  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

  530-651-1736

  530-748-9608 Cell

  www.remotelylocated.com



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

Mikrotik?



On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

  we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small 
sites by shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, 
this might give us a better window



  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 
is compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?  



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  





-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan En

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Lot of this stuff uses direct conversion these days.  So that would just 
require a front end filter change and a local oscillator capable of hitting the 
right freqs (for the receiver).

TX filters would have to change.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

And a transverter or heterodyne circuit or whatever the right name is.  Not 
sure if they use somebody’s SOC for that, or build it out of discrete parts.  
Need local oscillator, mixer, and filter to select the wanted sum or difference 
and reject the unwanted one.  Or perhaps they do dual conversion via some 
intermediate frequency.  As opposed to AF3x which is natively 3 GHz because it 
is not built on a general purpose WiFi chip.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.

 

bp On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
wrote:

  so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be 
downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If 
thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I 
assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would 
make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp 
in one move

   

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

25% is what I remember.

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Josh Reynolds" 

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

  That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard.

   

  On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  
wrote:

If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up 
making more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and 
delivered. Lol

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

   

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you 
can run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

  ePMP Elevate Compatibility
  check the Release Notes for complete details

a.. Loco M5 XW 
b.. Loco M5 XM 
c.. NanoStation M5 XW 
d.. NanoStation M5 XM 
e.. NanoBridge M5 XM 
f.. Rocket M5 XM 
g.. Rocket M5 XW 
h.. Powerbeam M5 XW 
i.. Airgrid M5HP XW 
j.. Airgrid M5 XM 
k.. NanoBeam M5 XW
  ePMP Elevate Developments
  RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
a.. XM + XW model 
b.. Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
  RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
a.. MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
b.. RB911G5HPnDQRT 
c.. RBSXT5nDr2 
d.. RB912UAG5HPnDOT
  2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
  DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017





  Jason Wilson

  Remotely Located

  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

  530-651-1736

  530-748-9608 Cell

  www.remotelylocated.com

   

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
 wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason 
Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com
        Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down 
the road, BUT i

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
And a transverter or heterodyne circuit or whatever the right name is.  Not 
sure if they use somebody’s SOC for that, or build it out of discrete parts.  
Need local oscillator, mixer, and filter to select the wanted sum or difference 
and reject the unwanted one.  Or perhaps they do dual conversion via some 
intermediate frequency.  As opposed to AF3x which is natively 3 GHz because it 
is not built on a general purpose WiFi chip.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.

 

bp

 

On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be downconverted 
5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside) If thats the case 
could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz? I assume the 
downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally would make a 
very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one 
move

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

25% is what I remember.

 

 

-- Original Message --

From: "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> >

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 

Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard.

 

On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making more 
money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com> > wrote:


ePMP Elevate Compatibility


check the Release Notes for complete details

*   Loco M5 XW
*   Loco M5 XM
*   NanoStation M5 XW
*   NanoStation M5 XM
*   NanoBridge M5 XM
*   Rocket M5 XM
*   Rocket M5 XW
*   Powerbeam M5 XW
*   Airgrid M5HP XW
*   Airgrid M5 XM
*   NanoBeam M5 XW


ePMP Elevate Developments


RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE


*   XM + XW model
*   Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016


RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017


*   MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
*   RB911G5HPnDQRT
*   RBSXT5nDr2
*   RB912UAG5HPnDOT


2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017


DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017





  
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Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736  

530-748-9608   Cell

www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com> 

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag 
von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

 

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.




  
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Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736  

530-748-9608   Cell

www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com> 

 

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com> > wrote:

Mikrotik?

 

On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" mai

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Pretty sure that's done in hardware, and thus not possible.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
> into epmp in one move
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
>> 25% is what I remember.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
>> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
>> number I heard.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>>> delivered. Lol
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Bill Prince

There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.


bp


On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be 
downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues 
aside) If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it 
into epmp 5ghz? I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, 
but man, I literally would make a very inappropriate mess if I could 
dump the ubnt 3ghz network into epmp in one move


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


25% is what I remember.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!


That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are
that low though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think
that was the last number I heard.


On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well
end up making more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered,
manufactures, and delivered. Lol

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped
the bar substantially. The market had a very serious
issue, and they solved it, while still generating
substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per
hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license,
with no real liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to
really focus efforts on real sync that actually works and
get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better,
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work
out a discount for AP licenses through them for their
customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying "meh, our
products are good"

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing,
basically you can run a Mikrotik CPE network and be
GPS synchronized then...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson
mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>> wrote:


ePMP Elevate Compatibility

check the Release Notes for complete details

  * Loco M5 XW
  * Loco M5 XM
  * NanoStation M5 XW
  * NanoStation M5 XM
  * NanoBridge M5 XM
  * Rocket M5 XM
  * Rocket M5 XW
  * Powerbeam M5 XW
  * Airgrid M5HP XW
  * Airgrid M5 XM
  * NanoBeam M5 XW


ePMP Elevate Developments


  RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE

  * XM + XW model
  * Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016


  RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017

  * MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
  * RB911G5HPnDQRT
  * RBSXT5nDr2
  * RB912UAG5HPnDOT


  2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017


  DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017



Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way
places.
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608  Cell
www.remotelylocated.com
<http://www.remotelylocated.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt
mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))

*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im Auftrag
von *Jason Wilson
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
            *An:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar,
Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is in the
works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is
a time/cash saver.


  

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
maybe ubnt will do the right thing and wholly exit the pmp market, give
chuck m all those resources to build them into a legitimate ptp provider

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with
> working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run
>>> a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>
>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>
>>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>
>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>
>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>
>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>
>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>>>>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>>>>> saver.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>
>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>
>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>
>>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>>
>>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>
>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikrotik?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the si

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
into epmp in one move

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> 25% is what I remember.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
> number I heard.
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>> delivered. Lol
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>
>>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>>
>>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>>
>>>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>
>>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>
>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>
>>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the
>>>>>> road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a
>>>>>> time/cash saver.
>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Indeed. It looks to me like unless UBNT can come up with a 2.4ghz AP with
working sync in the next few months, our entire network is going ePMP.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run
>> a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson > > wrote:
>>
>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>
>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>
>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>
>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>
>>>- XM + XW model
>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>
>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>
>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>
>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>>>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>>>> saver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>
>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>
>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>
>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, no... you wouldn't be running a Mikrotik CPE network, you would be
running an ePMP network with hardware that was manufactured by Mikrotik.
Unless I missed something and they're planning something very different for
Mikrotik gear than what they're doing with UBNT.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>
>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>
>>- Loco M5 XW
>>- Loco M5 XM
>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>
>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>
>>- XM + XW model
>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>
>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>
>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>
>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>
>>
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>>> saver.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>>
>>> Remotely Located
>>>
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>
>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>
>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mikrotik?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>> might give us a better window
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>>
>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>
>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Is that an after tax margin or a gross margin?

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

25% is what I remember.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

  That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low 
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last number I 
heard.


  On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  wrote:

If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making 
more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and delivered. Lol

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can 
run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

  ePMP Elevate Compatibility
  check the Release Notes for complete details

a.. Loco M5 XW 
b.. Loco M5 XM 
c.. NanoStation M5 XW 
d.. NanoStation M5 XM 
e.. NanoBridge M5 XM 
f.. Rocket M5 XM 
g.. Rocket M5 XW 
h.. Powerbeam M5 XW 
i.. Airgrid M5HP XW 
j.. Airgrid M5 XM 
k.. NanoBeam M5 XW
  ePMP Elevate Developments
  RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
a.. XM + XW model 
b.. Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
  RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
a.. MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016 
b.. RB911G5HPnDQRT 
c.. RBSXT5nDr2 
d.. RB912UAG5HPnDOT
  2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
  DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017




  Jason Wilson
  Remotely Located
  Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
  530-651-1736
  530-748-9608 Cell
  www.remotelylocated.com


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  
wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
    An: af@afmug.com
    Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the 
road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash 
saver.






Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736

530-748-9608 Cell

www.remotelylocated.com



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

  Mikrotik?



  On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small 
sites by shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, 
this might give us a better window



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

  Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is 
compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?  



  Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.  





  -- Original Message --

  From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

  To: "af@afmug.com" 

          Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same 
hardware as the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install 
the same SW.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That 
One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
    An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some p

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Adam Moffett

25% is what I remember.


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that 
low though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the 
last number I heard.



On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  
wrote:
If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up 
making more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, 
and delivered. Lol


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved 
it, while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their 
profit per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, 
with no real liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really 
focus efforts on real sync that actually works and get an actual 
legitimate support channel. Or even better, sell their radios 
preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP licenses 
through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:
This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can 
run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:

ePMP Elevate Compatibility
check the Release Notes for complete details

Loco M5 XWLoco M5 XMNanoStation M5 XWNanoStation M5 XMNanoBridge M5 
XMRocket M5 XMRocket M5 XWPowerbeam M5 XWAirgrid M5HP XWAirgrid M5 
XMNanoBeam M5 XWePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW 
AVAILABLEXM + XW modelRocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 
2016RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement 
in Q4, 2016RB911G5HPnDQRTRBSXT5nDr2RB912UAG5HPnDOT2.4 XW + XM 
MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017



Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 
530-748-9608  Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  
wrote:

Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the 
road, BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a 
time/cash saver.





Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736 

530-748-9608  Cell

www.remotelylocated.com



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
 wrote:



Mikrotik?



On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:


we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small 
sites by shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP 
APs at the site, this might give us a better window




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
 wrote:


Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is 
compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?




Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.





-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" 

To: "af@afmug.com" 

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware 
as the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just 
install the same SW.






Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One 
Guy /sarcasm

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus 
wallace  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work 
on the ubnt managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow 
torch to get hardware access




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:


im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was 
when I signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school 
girl




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak 
 wrote:


I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/ 
<http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/>




Very interesting indeed... very interesting.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
 wrote:



This ought to shake things up a bit.



http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/ 
<http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>




<http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>

/ 
<http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>


www.businesswire.com

/












--

If you only see yourself as part of th

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>
>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>
>>- Loco M5 XW
>>- Loco M5 XM
>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>
>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>
>>- XM + XW model
>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>
>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>
>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>
>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>
>>
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>>> saver.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>>
>>> Remotely Located
>>>
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>
>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>
>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mikrotik?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>> might give us a better window
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>>
>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>
>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
number I heard.

On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
wrote:

> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
> delivered. Lol
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run
>>> a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>
>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>
>>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>
>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>
>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>
>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>
>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>>>>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>>>>> saver.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>
>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>
>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>
>>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>>
>>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>
>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikrotik?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>>> shutting off air

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Tyler Treat
This makes me think of the Skypilot thing where they switched to using UBNT 
clients.  Unless that was only talking to the 2.4 AP instead of the mesh sector 
deal.  I don't remember.





From: Af  on behalf of That One Guy /sarcasm 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar 
substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it, while 
still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit per hardware 
unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real liability. 
Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real sync that 
actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or even better, 
sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a discount for AP 
licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I assume is just saying 
"meh, our products are good"

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a 
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>> wrote:
ePMP Elevate Compatibility

check the Release Notes for complete details

  *   Loco M5 XW
  *   Loco M5 XM
  *   NanoStation M5 XW
  *   NanoStation M5 XM
  *   NanoBridge M5 XM
  *   Rocket M5 XM
  *   Rocket M5 XW
  *   Powerbeam M5 XW
  *   Airgrid M5HP XW
  *   Airgrid M5 XM
  *   NanoBeam M5 XW

ePMP Elevate Developments
RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE

  *   XM + XW model
  *   Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016

RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017

  *   MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
  *   RB911G5HPnDQRT
  *   RBSXT5nDr2
  *   RB912UAG5HPnDOT

2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017
DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017

[http://remotelylocated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-Remotely-Located-Logo.jpg]
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag 
von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.

[http://remotelylocated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-Remotely-Located-Logo.jpg]
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com<http://www.remotelylocated.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com>> wrote:

Mikrotik?

On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with 
an Intel Core isn't it?

Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.


-- Original Message --
From: "Stefan Englhardt" mailto:s...@genias.net>>
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag 
von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak 
mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/

Very 

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
delivered. Lol

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run
>> a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson > > wrote:
>>
>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>
>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>
>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>
>>> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>
>>>- XM + XW model
>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>
>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>
>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>
>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>>>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>>>> saver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>
>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>
>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>
>>>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>>>
>>>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>
>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>
>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>
> check the Release Notes for complete details
>
>- Loco M5 XW
>- Loco M5 XM
>- NanoStation M5 XW
>- NanoStation M5 XM
>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>- Rocket M5 XM
>- Rocket M5 XW
>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>- Airgrid M5 XM
>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>
> ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>
>- XM + XW model
>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>
> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>
>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>- RBSXT5nDr2
>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>
> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
>> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road,
>> BUT is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash
>> saver.
>>
>>
>> Jason Wilson
>>
>> Remotely Located
>>
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>
>> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>>
>> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>>
>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mikrotik?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>> might give us a better window
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> www.businesswire.com
>>
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Jason Wilson
ePMP Elevate Compatibility

check the Release Notes for complete details

   - Loco M5 XW
   - Loco M5 XM
   - NanoStation M5 XW
   - NanoStation M5 XM
   - NanoBridge M5 XM
   - Rocket M5 XM
   - Rocket M5 XW
   - Powerbeam M5 XW
   - Airgrid M5HP XW
   - Airgrid M5 XM
   - NanoBeam M5 XW

ePMP Elevate DevelopmentsRELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE

   - XM + XW model
   - Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016

RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017

   - MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
   - RB911G5HPnDQRT
   - RBSXT5nDr2
   - RB912UAG5HPnDOT

2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Jason Wilson
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT
> is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.
>
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
> might give us a better window
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>
>
>
> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
>
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
> wrote:
>
> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
>
> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> www.businesswire.com
>
> /
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Does this work for 11ac Mikrotiks ;-))





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Wilson
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 17:03
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT is 
in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.




  
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Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736

530-748-9608 Cell

www.remotelylocated.com <http://www.remotelylocated.com>



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson mailto:ja...@remotelylocated.com> > wrote:

Mikrotik?



On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by shutting 
off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this might give 
us a better window



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with 
an Intel Core isn't it?



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.





-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" mailto:s...@genias.net> >

To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag 
von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com> > wrote:

I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/



Very interesting indeed... very interesting.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> > wrote:

This ought to shake things up a bit.



http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/




 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>

 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/> /

www.businesswire.com <http://www.businesswire.com>

/











--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I do see a ton of hardware failures. one of the interim firmwares that was
causing that unexpected reboot on the UBNTs during the malware scandal was
toasting the flash. But still, 35 bucks is cheaper than a truck roll you
were going to make anyway. I would just plan for a percentage of truck
rolls and not blame cambium for UBNTs hardware damaging firmware

I wonder if cambium is going to start posting "u mad brah" memes all over
UBNTs social media

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
> UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
> UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
> a ton of time and money.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>>
>> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
>> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>>
>> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
>> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
>> markets
>>
>> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
>> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mikrotik?
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>>> might give us a better window
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>> access
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>
>>>>> /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Jason Wilson
I tuned in to the last half of the webinar, Mikrotik is down the road, BUT
is in the works.  From a 100% Mikrotik network that is a time/cash saver.


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> Mikrotik?
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>> might give us a better window
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>
>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>
>>> /
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
It's not a bad deal at all. We have several towers where we put up both
UBNT and ePMP 5ghz APs, with the intention of eventually replacing all the
UBNT CPE with ePMP and shutting down the old AP - this is going to save us
a ton of time and money.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all
>
> they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
> to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA
>
> Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
> hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
> markets
>
> Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
> restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> Mikrotik?
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>>> might give us a better window
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is
>>>> compatible with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>> /sarcasm
>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>
>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>
>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
No, they're saying the FCC certification is dependent on the hardware, so
as long as it originally supported DFS frequencies it will with the ePMP
software. Not sure how that works with the whole UBNT sticker mess, but I'm
guessing that it's probably just going to treat them all as being unlocked,
and it'll be our responsibility to make sure it actually has the new
stickers already.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Did this stuff have to get new FCC certification? Does it need new FCCID
> stickers? Does it have all DFS frequencies?
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, right. You probably want to be careful about any doing any firmware
>> upgrades on UBNT radios that you're planning on switching, but otherwise
>> there's really nothing they can do to anything that's already out there.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 35/SM 315/10 SM
>>> SM software is free
>>> If UBNT locks the hardware it would have to be new hardware that wont
>>> take the current UBNT firmware, essentially, if your gear is deployed or in
>>> your shop, UBNT cant do squat
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I missed the start of the webinar... so this just requires, a license
>>>> on the AP? what kind of cost are they talking about?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> better than buying new licenses
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
>>>>>> Lightning has no time for a RMA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt
>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move
>>>>>>> the license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as
>>>>>>>> the oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the 
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> SW.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One
>>>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when
>>>>>>>> I signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Did this stuff have to get new FCC certification? Does it need new FCCID
stickers? Does it have all DFS frequencies?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Well, right. You probably want to be careful about any doing any firmware
> upgrades on UBNT radios that you're planning on switching, but otherwise
> there's really nothing they can do to anything that's already out there.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 35/SM 315/10 SM
>> SM software is free
>> If UBNT locks the hardware it would have to be new hardware that wont
>> take the current UBNT firmware, essentially, if your gear is deployed or in
>> your shop, UBNT cant do squat
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I missed the start of the webinar... so this just requires, a license on
>>> the AP? what kind of cost are they talking about?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> better than buying new licenses
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
>>>>> Lightning has no time for a RMA.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt
>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move
>>>>>> the license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
>>>>>>> SW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One
>>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, right. You probably want to be careful about any doing any firmware
upgrades on UBNT radios that you're planning on switching, but otherwise
there's really nothing they can do to anything that's already out there.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 35/SM 315/10 SM
> SM software is free
> If UBNT locks the hardware it would have to be new hardware that wont take
> the current UBNT firmware, essentially, if your gear is deployed or in your
> shop, UBNT cant do squat
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> I missed the start of the webinar... so this just requires, a license on
>> the AP? what kind of cost are they talking about?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> better than buying new licenses
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
>>>> Lightning has no time for a RMA.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt
>>>>> it is.
>>>>> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move the
>>>>> license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
>>>>>> SW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One
>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>>> access
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
35/SM 315/10 SM
SM software is free
If UBNT locks the hardware it would have to be new hardware that wont take
the current UBNT firmware, essentially, if your gear is deployed or in your
shop, UBNT cant do squat


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I missed the start of the webinar... so this just requires, a license on
> the AP? what kind of cost are they talking about?
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> better than buying new licenses
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>>> 'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
>>> Lightning has no time for a RMA.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt it
>>>> is.
>>>> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move the
>>>> license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
>>>>> access
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>>
>>>>> /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
35 bucks a pop to extend a depreciated hardware is not a bad deal at all

they just said if you have a failed AP, theyll honor system your licenses
to an existing AP you have so you dont have to wait on RMA

Im beginning to wonder about Cambium, theyre building EPMP into a really
hot product that is good enough to compete with the 450 in the margin
markets

Is this the same Cambium that bought moto, or has there been a
restructuring? Because originally, they were bigger cocks than moto

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> Mikrotik?
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
>> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
>> might give us a better window
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>>
>>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>
>>> /
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I missed the start of the webinar... so this just requires, a license on
the AP? what kind of cost are they talking about?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:36 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> better than buying new licenses
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
>> 'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
>> Lightning has no time for a RMA.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt it
>>> is.
>>> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move the
>>> license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>> /sarcasm
>>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace
>>>>  and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt
>>>> managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>
>>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>>
>>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
better than buying new licenses

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> 'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
> Lightning has no time for a RMA.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt it
>> is.
>> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move the
>> license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>
>>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>>
>>> www.businesswire.com
>>>
>>> /
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Jason Wilson
Mikrotik?

On Nov 30, 2016 7:31 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
> shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
> might give us a better window
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>
>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> www.businesswire.com
>>
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Stefan Englhardt
I am a bit sarcastic I know ;-)). But indeed both shop the same standard 
Atheros Chipsets. Dont know what UBNT-Model has the exact same 11n chipset as 
the ePMP CPE.



They claim to elevate >25 CPEs/AP. This is the kind of Marketing which makes me 
sarcastic.







Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Moffett
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:29
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible with 
an Intel Core isn't it?



Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.





-- Original Message --

From: "Stefan Englhardt" mailto:s...@genias.net> >

To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> " mailto:af@afmug.com> >

Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag 
von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com> > wrote:

I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/



Very interesting indeed... very interesting.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> > wrote:

This ought to shake things up a bit.



http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/




 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>

 <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/> /

www.businesswire.com <http://www.businesswire.com>

/











--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Joe Novak
'thats sweet' = that really sucks, right? I kinda hate that model.
Lightning has no time for a RMA.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:29 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt it
> is.
> licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move the
> license to the RMA unit, thats sweet
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>
>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> www.businesswire.com
>>
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Not *ALL* stuff but at least Nanobeam, Nanostation, and Rockets.  There's a
list of devices in the link.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Is this a firmware upgrade that turns Ubiquiti M5 stuff into a ePMP radio?
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Adam Moffett 
> wrote:
>
>> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
>> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>>
>> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
>> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>>
>>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>>
>> www.businesswire.com
>>
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we have been installing epmp SMs to ubnt backhauls on small sites by
shutting off airmax until we get a chance to get EPMP APs at the site, this
might give us a better window

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>
> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
>
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
> wrote:
>
> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
>
> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> www.businesswire.com
>
> /
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Is this a firmware upgrade that turns Ubiquiti M5 stuff into a ePMP radio?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible
> with an Intel Core isn't it?
>
> Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
>
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
> wrote:
>
> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
>
> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> / <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
> www.businesswire.com
>
> /
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
im hoping the sm software is full feature for short ptp, but i doubt it is.
licensed is locked to the AP, but you can RMA a failed AP and move the
license to the RMA unit, thats sweet

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the
> oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
>
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
> wrote:
>
> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
>
> <http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Compatible doesn't mean "same".  Software for an Intel 386 is compatible 
with an Intel Core isn't it?


Point taken though...ePMP is still 802.11n.


-- Original Message --
From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 11/30/2016 10:25:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the 
oldest UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same 
SW.






Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy 
/sarcasm

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  
and some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt 
managers here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware 
access




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:


im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I 
signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl




On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/




Very interesting indeed... very interesting.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
 wrote:



This ought to shake things up a bit.



http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/




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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Stefan Englhardt
They found out that their new ePMP CPEs use the same hardware as the oldest 
UBNT-Atheros-Crap. So no porting problem. Just install the same SW.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2016 16:12
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!



you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and some 
hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here with a 
pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed up 
for it but now im all giddy like a school girl



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com> > wrote:

I prefer the Cambium direct link: 
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/



Very interesting indeed... very interesting.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> > wrote:

This ought to shake things up a bit.



http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/




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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Baird
If only we could re-flash FSK to ePMP.  :)

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Let's be real, though.  Anyone wanting to move to ePMP isn't buying the
> old hardware...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
>> rofl.
>>
>> Any bets on moves to block third party firmware? I feel like a war will
>> be brewing.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
 signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl

 On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
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>> / 
>> www.businesswire.com
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>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Let's be real, though.  Anyone wanting to move to ePMP isn't buying the old
hardware...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> rofl.
>
> Any bets on moves to block third party firmware? I feel like a war will be
> brewing.
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
 I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
 ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/

 Very interesting indeed... very interesting.

 On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:

> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
> 
> / 
> www.businesswire.com
> /
>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i asked in the webinar


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> rofl.
>
> Any bets on moves to block third party firmware? I feel like a war will be
> brewing.
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
>> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
>> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
 I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
 ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/

 Very interesting indeed... very interesting.

 On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:

> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>
>
> 
> / 
> www.businesswire.com
> /
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Joe Novak
rofl.

Any bets on moves to block third party firmware? I feel like a war will be
brewing.

Joe

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
> some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers
> here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
>> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>>
>>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>>
 This ought to shake things up a bit.


 http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/


 
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you have to wonder if at some point cambium hired marsellus wallace  and
some hard, pipe-hittin' people, who'll go to work on the ubnt managers here
with a pair of pliers and a blow torch to get hardware access

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I
> signed up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
>> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.cambiumnetwor
>> ks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>>
>> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat <
>> tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>>
>>>
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>>> www.businesswire.com
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>>>
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>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
im in the webinar, I didnt realize thats what the webinar was when I signed
up for it but now im all giddy like a school girl

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> I prefer the Cambium direct link: http://www.
> cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/
>
> Very interesting indeed... very interesting.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat  > wrote:
>
>> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>>
>>
>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
>>
>>
>> 
>> / 
>> www.businesswire.com
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Joe Novak
I prefer the Cambium direct link:
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/dont-migrate---elevate/

Very interesting indeed... very interesting.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Tyler Treat 
wrote:

> This ought to shake things up a bit.
>
>
> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/
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[AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

2016-11-30 Thread Tyler Treat
This ought to shake things up a bit.


http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161130005468/en/


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