Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
You can import sites, via CSV from RM to TC. ;) 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:
> The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one 
> to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  
>> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am 
>> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am 
>> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>> *From:* Mitch Koep
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>
>> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>
>> Credit card is by far safer.
>>
>> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>
>> IMO
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the 
>>> data rates on?
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
>>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>
>>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>>
>>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>>
>>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
>>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
>>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
>>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
>>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
>>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
>>> accurate as linkplanner?
>>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Highly optimized, plus with web integration, there are many new features as 
well.  A coverage map at proper 3000x3000 px resolution in RM takes 45 min on a 
I7 3.4 GHz system, we can do that in under 2 min.  ☺  Lots of efficiencies are 
created, plus it works with any workstation with nothing to download.

You can also take it and put a coverage map on-line if you wish.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  I have 
sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am comfortable with RM.  
Always learning new stuff about it but I am pretty proficient.  Isn’t 
towercoverage just a web version of RM?

From: Mitch Koep
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools


The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal

IMO

Mitch Koep

On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data rates 
on?

On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to ☺

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 
x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a -80. We 
don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be 
doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash 
on something that specializes in modeling LTE.



Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against existing 
cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?







Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Jones
thanks



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Rick Harnish 
wrote:

> We have Atoll.  Check with cameron.kil...@baicells.com, if you need
> propagation studies done.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> -[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]-
>
> Rick Harnish
>
>
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
>
>
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
>
> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>
>
>
> rick.harn...@baicells.com
>
> www.facebook.com/baicells
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 4:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>
>
> do you guys have a propagation/profile tool like linkplanner available, or
> in the works?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Rick Harnish 
> wrote:
>
> Baicells has been testing with Federated Wireless for several months.  We
> did a demo for Commissioner O’Reilly at the CBRS Alliance meeting in
> California last month.  The other things Mark mentioned can be added
> relatively easy.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> -[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]-
>
> Rick Harnish
>
>
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
>
>
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
>
> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>
>
>
> rick.harn...@baicells.com
>
> www.facebook.com/baicells
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 2:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>
>
> SAS’s exist in testing form - but the rules, testing procedures, equipment
> certification, etc. are not complete yet and will not be until early next
> year.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm curious about how vendors are testing their SAS software, when there
> is no SAS to test to
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
> Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?
>
> Adam Moffett wrote:
> > The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
> > to the other.  There's some learning curve.
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >
> >> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
> >> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
> >> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
> >> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
> >> *From:* Mitch Koep
> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>
> >> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
> >>
> >> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
> >>
> >> Credit card is by far safer.
> >>
> >> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
> >>
> >> IMO
> >>
> >> Mitch Koep
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
> >>> data rates on?
> >>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Burgess
> >>>
> >>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
> >>> x103 > –
> dmburg...@linktechs.net
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
> >>> *To:* af@afm

Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Rick Harnish
We have Atoll.  Check with  <mailto:cameron.kil...@baicells.com> 
cameron.kil...@baicells.com, if you need propagation studies done.

 

Respectfully,

 

--

Rick Harnish

 

Director of WISP Markets

 

 <https://na.baicells.com/> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.

Mobile:  (972) 922-1443

 

 <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com> rick.harn...@baicells.com

 <http://www.facebook.com/baicells> www.facebook.com/baicells

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

 

do you guys have a propagation/profile tool like linkplanner available, or in 
the works?

 

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Rick Harnish mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com> > wrote:

Baicells has been testing with Federated Wireless for several months.  We did a 
demo for Commissioner O’Reilly at the CBRS Alliance meeting in California last 
month.  The other things Mark mentioned can be added relatively easy.

 

Respectfully,

 

--

Rick Harnish

 

Director of WISP Markets

 

 <https://na.baicells.com/> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.

Mobile:  (972) 922-1443  

 

 <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com> rick.harn...@baicells.com

 <http://www.facebook.com/baicells> www.facebook.com/baicells

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

 

SAS’s exist in testing form - but the rules, testing procedures, equipment 
certification, etc. are not complete yet and will not be until early next year.

 

Mark

 

 

On Sep 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/

 

 

I'm curious about how vendors are testing their SAS software, when there is no 
SAS to test to

 

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote:

Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:
> The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
> to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  <mailto:af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
> Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
>> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
>> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
>> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>> *From:* Mitch Koep
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>
>> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>
>> Credit card is by far safer.
>>
>> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>
>> IMO
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
>>> data rates on?
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" >> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>  
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270  
>>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net 
>>> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> 
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path pro

Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Jones
do you guys have a propagation/profile tool like linkplanner available, or
in the works?

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Rick Harnish 
wrote:

> Baicells has been testing with Federated Wireless for several months.  We
> did a demo for Commissioner O’Reilly at the CBRS Alliance meeting in
> California last month.  The other things Mark mentioned can be added
> relatively easy.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> -[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]-
>
> Rick Harnish
>
>
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
>
>
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
>
> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>
>
>
> rick.harn...@baicells.com
>
> www.facebook.com/baicells
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 2:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>
>
> SAS’s exist in testing form - but the rules, testing procedures, equipment
> certification, etc. are not complete yet and will not be until early next
> year.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm curious about how vendors are testing their SAS software, when there
> is no SAS to test to
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
> Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?
>
> Adam Moffett wrote:
> > The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
> > to the other.  There's some learning curve.
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >
> >> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
> >> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
> >> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
> >> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
> >> *From:* Mitch Koep
> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>
> >> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
> >>
> >> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
> >>
> >> Credit card is by far safer.
> >>
> >> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
> >>
> >> IMO
> >>
> >> Mitch Koep
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
> >>> data rates on?
> >>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Burgess
> >>>
> >>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
> >>> x103 > –
> dmburg...@linktechs.net
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>>
> >>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
> >>>
> >>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
> >>>
> >>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
> >>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
> >>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
> >>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
> >>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
> >>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
> >>> accurate as linkplanner?
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Rick Harnish
Baicells has been testing with Federated Wireless for several months.  We did a 
demo for Commissioner O’Reilly at the CBRS Alliance meeting in California last 
month.  The other things Mark mentioned can be added relatively easy.

 

Respectfully,

 

--

Rick Harnish

 

Director of WISP Markets

 

 <https://na.baicells.com/> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.

Mobile:  (972) 922-1443

 

 <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com> rick.harn...@baicells.com

 <http://www.facebook.com/baicells> www.facebook.com/baicells

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

 

SAS’s exist in testing form - but the rules, testing procedures, equipment 
certification, etc. are not complete yet and will not be until early next year.

 

Mark

 

 

On Sep 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/

 

 

I'm curious about how vendors are testing their SAS software, when there is no 
SAS to test to

 

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote:

Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:
> The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
> to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  <mailto:af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
> Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
>> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
>> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
>> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>> *From:* Mitch Koep
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>
>> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>
>> Credit card is by far safer.
>>
>> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>
>> IMO
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
>>> data rates on?
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" >> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>  
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270  
>>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net 
>>> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> 
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>
>>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>>
>>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak >> <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>>
>>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
>>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
>>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
>>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
>>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> O

Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh
SAS’s exist in testing form - but the rules, testing procedures, equipment 
certification, etc. are not complete yet and will not be until early next year.

Mark


> On Sep 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/ <https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/>
> 
> 
> I'm curious about how vendors are testing their SAS software, when there is 
> no SAS to test to
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Rory Conaway  <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?
> 
> Rory
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> 
> Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?
> 
> Adam Moffett wrote:
> > The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
> > to the other.  There's some learning curve.
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com 
> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com 
> > <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> > Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >
> >> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
> >> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
> >> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
> >> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
> >> *From:* Mitch Koep
> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>
> >> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
> >>
> >> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
> >>
> >> Credit card is by far safer.
> >>
> >> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
> >>
> >> IMO
> >>
> >> Mitch Koep
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
> >>> data rates on?
> >>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  >>> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Burgess
> >>>
> >>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> 
> >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/ <http://www.linktechs.net/>> – 314-735-0270 
> >>> 
> >>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net 
> >>> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] 
> >>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>>
> >>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
> >>>
> >>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  >>> <mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
> >>>
> >>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
> >>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
> >>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
> >>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
> >>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
> >>> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
> >>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
> >>> accurate as linkplanner?
> >>>
> >>
> >
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> 



Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Jones
https://na.baicells.com/cbrs/


I'm curious about how vendors are testing their SAS software, when there is
no SAS to test to

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
> Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?
>
> Adam Moffett wrote:
> > The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
> > to the other.  There's some learning curve.
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >
> >> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
> >> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
> >> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
> >> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
> >> *From:* Mitch Koep
> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
> >> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>
> >> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
> >>
> >> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
> >>
> >> Credit card is by far safer.
> >>
> >> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
> >>
> >> IMO
> >>
> >> Mitch Koep
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
> >>> data rates on?
> >>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Burgess
> >>>
> >>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
> >>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> >>>
> >>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
> >>>
> >>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
> >>>
> >>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
> >>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
> >>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
> >>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
> >>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
> >>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
> >>> accurate as linkplanner?
> >>>
> >>
> >
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>


Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I would not say CBRS is ‘right around the corner’.   First release of the 
specification will be March 2018 time frame.  The second release which is 
needed for WISP outdoor use (CatB) is due sometime next year - possibly mid 
2008.   There is no sign of the FCC moving to conduct the PAL auctions - figure 
2019 at the earliest.   And the FCC is about to reopen the design of CBRS.

I expect that we will have to be asking for an extension of the existing 
licenses very soon.

Mark

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> 
> The FCC will renew them until April 17th 2020.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> --
> Rick Harnish
> 
> Director of WISP Markets
> 
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.
> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
> 
> rick.harn...@baicells.com
> www.facebook.com/baicells
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:18 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> 
> Nope.  CBRS is right around the corner.  Vendors are testing their SAS 
> software.
> 
> Existing NN licenses are good at least until they expire.  I don't know if 
> the FCC will renew them, but I'm assuming they will.
> 
> 
> -- Original Message ------
> From: "Rory Conaway" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 9/22/2017 2:09:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
> 
>> Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 
>> years?
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>> 
>> Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?
>> 
>> Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
>>> to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>> 
>>>> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
>>>> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
>>>> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
>>>> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>>>> *From:* Mitch Koep
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>> 
>>>> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>>> 
>>>> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>>> 
>>>> Credit card is by far safer.
>>>> 
>>>> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>>> 
>>>> IMO
>>>> 
>>>> Mitch Koep
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
>>>>> data rates on?
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>>> 
>>>>>Dennis Burgess
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
>>>>>x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>> 
>>>>>*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve 
>>>>> Jones
>>>>>*Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>>>>*To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>>> 
>>>>>yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>>>> 
>>>>>I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>>>> 
>>>>>On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>>>> 
>>>>>For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
>>>>>fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
>>>>>RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
>>>>>it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
>>>>>on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Joe
>>>>> 
>>>>>On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
>>>>>profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
>>>>>accurate as linkplanner?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
> 
> 



Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Rick Harnish
The FCC will renew them until April 17th 2020.

Respectfully,

--
Rick Harnish

Director of WISP Markets

Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.
Mobile:  (972) 922-1443

rick.harn...@baicells.com
www.facebook.com/baicells


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Nope.  CBRS is right around the corner.  Vendors are testing their SAS software.

Existing NN licenses are good at least until they expire.  I don't know if the 
FCC will renew them, but I'm assuming they will.


-- Original Message --
From: "Rory Conaway" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/22/2017 2:09:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

>Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 
>years?
>
>Rory
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?
>
>Adam Moffett wrote:
>>The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
>>to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>>
>>
>>-- Original Message --
>>From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
>>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>>>The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
>>>I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
>>>comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
>>>pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>>>*From:* Mitch Koep
>>>*Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>>>*To:* af@afmug.com
>>>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>
>>>The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>>
>>>the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>>
>>>Credit card is by far safer.
>>>
>>>I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>>
>>>IMO
>>>
>>>Mitch Koep
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
>>>>data rates on?
>>>>On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Burgess
>>>>
>>>>www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
>>>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve 
>>>>Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>>
>>>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>>>
>>>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>>>
>>>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
>>>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
>>>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
>>>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
>>>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
>>>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
>>>> accurate as linkplanner?
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>



Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Rick Harnish
The will become part of the CBRS band 3550-3700 MHz.  

Respectfully,

--
Rick Harnish

Director of WISP Markets

Baicells Technologies North America, Inc.
Mobile:  (972) 922-1443

rick.harn...@baicells.com
www.facebook.com/baicells


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:
> The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one 
> to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  
>> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am 
>> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am 
>> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>> *From:* Mitch Koep
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>
>> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>
>> Credit card is by far safer.
>>
>> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>
>> IMO
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the 
>>> data rates on?
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>>     www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
>>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>
>>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>>
>>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>>
>>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
>>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
>>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
>>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
>>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
>>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
>>> accurate as linkplanner?
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett
Nope.  CBRS is right around the corner.  Vendors are testing their SAS 
software.


Existing NN licenses are good at least until they expire.  I don't know 
if the FCC will renew them, but I'm assuming they will.



-- Original Message --
From: "Rory Conaway" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/22/2017 2:09:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 
years?


Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:

The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one
to the other.  There's some learning curve.


-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools


The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.
I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am
comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am
pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
*From:* Mitch Koep
*Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal

IMO

Mitch Koep


On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the
data rates on?
On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
wrote:

Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J

Dennis Burgess

www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve 
Jones

*Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
wrote:

Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
on something that specializes in modeling LTE.

Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
 wrote:

we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
accurate as linkplanner?





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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Rory Conaway
Just out of curiosity, aren't the 3.65GHz licenses going away in 3 years?

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:
> The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one 
> to the other.  There's some learning curve.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  
>> I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am 
>> comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am 
>> pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>> *From:* Mitch Koep
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>>
>> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>>
>> Credit card is by far safer.
>>
>> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>>
>> IMO
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the 
>>> data rates on?
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess
>>>
>>>     www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
>>> x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>>
>>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>>
>>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>>
>>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
>>> fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
>>> RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
>>> it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
>>> on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
>>> profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
>>> accurate as linkplanner?
>>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Jay Weekley

Is there an option to import your existing RM sites into Towercoverage?

Adam Moffett wrote:
The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one 
to the other.  There's some learning curve.



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for 
free.  I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am 
comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am 
pretty proficient. Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?

*From:* Mitch Koep
*Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal

IMO

Mitch Koep


On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the 
data rates on?
On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  
wrote:


Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J

Dennis Burgess

www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270
x103  – dmburg...@linktechs.net

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
wrote:

Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but
it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash
on something that specializes in modeling LTE.

Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
 wrote:

we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
accurate as linkplanner?





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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett
The interface is different enough that you can't quickly jump from one 
to the other.  There's some learning curve.



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/22/2017 10:17:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  
I have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am 
comfortable with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am 
pretty proficient.  Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?


From:Mitch Koep
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal

IMO

Mitch Koep


On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the 
data rates on?


On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  
wrote:

Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J



Dennis Burgess

www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103  – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools



yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.



I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware



On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:


Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?



For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at 
a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 
RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise 
without spending loads of cash on something that specializes in 
modeling LTE.








Joe



On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:


we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile 
against existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as 
linkplanner?














Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Jones
yeah, and it only does 2D modelling, so I'm not quite sure how its accurate
on multipolarity antennas. I know its "just math" and "only as good as the
data put in". I never could get super NLOS accurate results in RM for 320,
I assume its because of the WiMAX magic and custom radio mites

Has anybody ever priced out one of these cellular modelling systems that
you do 3D structure renderings into? My guess is its way outside a small
WISP budget, like over 50k

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:17 AM,  wrote:

> The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  I
> have sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am comfortable
> with RM.  Always learning new stuff about it but I am pretty proficient.
> Isn’t towercoverage just a web version of RM?
>
> *From:* Mitch Koep
> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>
> The one problem I have with towercoverage is
>
> the only monthly payment option is paypal.
>
> Credit card is by far safer.
>
> I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal
>
> IMO
>
> Mitch Koep
>
> On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data
> rates on?
>
> On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  wrote:
>
>> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess
>>
>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <%28314%29%20735-0270> –
>> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>>
>>
>>
>> yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>>
>>
>>
>> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a
>> -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It
>> seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending
>> loads of cash on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against
>> existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread chuck
The only problem I have with towercoverage is that I use RM for free.  I have 
sent Roger plenty of donations over the years, but I am comfortable with RM.  
Always learning new stuff about it but I am pretty proficient.  Isn’t 
towercoverage just a web version of RM?

From: Mitch Koep 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal


IMO

Mitch Koep




On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

  It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data rates 
on? 

  On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  wrote:

Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J  



Dennis Burgess

www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools



yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.



I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware



On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

  Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?



  For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a 
-80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It 
seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending 
loads of cash on something that specializes in modeling LTE.







  Joe



  On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones  
wrote:

we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against 
existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?












Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett
It won't give you data rates like Link Planner.  You would have to 
extrapolate that on you own based on predicted RSSI.



-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/22/2017 9:35:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data 
rates on?


On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  
wrote:

Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J



Dennis Burgess

www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103  – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools



yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.



I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware



On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:


Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?



For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at 
a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 
RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise 
without spending loads of cash on something that specializes in 
modeling LTE.








Joe



On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:


we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile 
against existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as 
linkplanner?













Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Dennis Burgess
We can take a yearly payment via credit card or check if needed.

You can also pay with paypal credit card as well.

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Koep
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools


The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal

IMO

Mitch Koep

On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data rates 
on?

On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to ☺

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 
x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a -80. We 
don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be 
doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash 
on something that specializes in modeling LTE.



Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against existing 
cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?







Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Mitch Koep

The one problem I have with towercoverage is

the only monthly payment option is paypal.

Credit card is by far safer.

I did really like the test I tried but will not use paypal

IMO

Mitch Koep


On 9/22/2017 8:35 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the 
data rates on?


On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:


Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J

Dennis Burgess

www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 x103
 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:

Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and
fringe at a -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100
RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but it's
hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash on
something that specializes in modeling LTE.

Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to
profile against existing cutovers. is there something as
accurate as linkplanner?





Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Dennis Burgess
Much more accurate, given data, etc..We go down to 1/9 arc second data.

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data rates 
on?

On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess" 
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to ☺

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 
x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a -80. We 
don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be 
doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash 
on something that specializes in modeling LTE.



Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against existing 
cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?






Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Jones
It can predict performance like linkplanner? Whats it modeling the data
rates on?

On Sep 22, 2017 7:59 AM, "Dennis Burgess"  wrote:

> Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to J
>
>
>
> Dennis Burgess
>
> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> –
> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools
>
>
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> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:
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> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
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> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a
> -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It
> seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending
> loads of cash on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
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> Joe
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> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
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> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against
> existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?
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Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Dennis Burgess
Check out towercoverage, it can do what you wish it to ☺

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak 
mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a -80. We 
don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It seems to be 
doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending loads of cash 
on something that specializes in modeling LTE.



Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against existing 
cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?






Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett

Attenuation is attenuation whether it's LTE or WiFi or cans & string.

Why do you guys think Radio Mobile can't predict coverage for LTE?


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/21/2017 10:09:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools


yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a 
-80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 
RSSI). It seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise 
without spending loads of cash on something that specializes in 
modeling LTE.




Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:
we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile 
against existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as 
linkplanner?







Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-21 Thread Steve Jones
yeah, I see that, looking at the software that's out there.

I think technology has surpassed the efficacy of freeware

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?
>
> For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a
> -80. We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It
> seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending
> loads of cash on something that specializes in modeling LTE.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against
>> existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [AFMUG] LTE (baicells) path propagation tools

2017-09-21 Thread Joe Novak
Can you adjust link planner for RX on the client side?

For tower coverage we are modeling successful at a -70 and fringe at a -80.
We don't do installs much worse then a -100 RSRP (around -70 RSSI). It
seems to be doing okay... but it's hard to model otherwise without spending
loads of cash on something that specializes in modeling LTE.



Joe

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> we are looking to deploy this. stuff but would like to profile against
> existing cutovers. is there something as accurate as linkplanner?
>
>
>