Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
On 4/3/07, Geoff/W5OMR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sorry, Brian.. but somewhere, I apparently lost the ability to 'cut-n-paste'. http://w2dtc.com/w2dtc-sound-bites-page.htm Last word from me. Seems only fair then, to add that Ken's site contains sound from only a handful of stations - 2 are dead(one for several decades), the rest pretty much speak for themselves. But don't let that stop you from using that big brush of yours to paint an entire side of the country in a way that excuses your lack of participation on amfone. There is, however, a vast collection of AM audio clips (including east coast ops) at: http://amfone.net/index.php?ind=media Probably a more fair representation of us, East Coast, Northeast, and otherwise. Balance is a good thing. As for my 'last words' on the matter, I'd add 'childish' to 'ridiculous', mentioned previously. That's the AM spirit! (o: We now return to the pity party, already in progress __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
sorry, Brian.. but somewhere, I apparently lost the ability to 'cut-n-paste'. http://w2dtc.com/w2dtc-sound-bites-page.htm Last word from me. -- 73 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
Yes Bow, and if someone forgets to add compression and turn all the knobs right, they remind him. Jim W5JO Jim, Besides that fact that the guys on 3870 seem to have a favorite conversation piece... Their Amplifiers... They are all running near legal limit power most of the time. Bow W5EFR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
Bow wrote: Jim, Besides that fact that the guys on 3870 seem to have a favorite conversation piece... Their Amplifiers... They are all running near legal limit power most of the time. Near? as in 1kw beyond 1.5kw near? don't think so... -- __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
--- "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Todd has a real point about too many choose > to use the > internet instead of getting on the damned air! > > Maybe I should close down AMRadio for a few months > and see what happens! I've been following this general thread and figure it is time to "kill two birds" with one email. I don't have an AM transmitter on the air; since I haven't built one yet. I don't expect to be one the air on AM until later in the year, but I enjoy listening audio and style of an AM QSO. I'm in the process of changing careers and hope to have more time to get on the air, soon. Until I find the time to get the parts together, I'm listening to the chatter on the air and watching the posts on this mailing list, mostly to pick up who is who and has what and is doing whatever. I appreciate this group, and don't mind the "occasional" airing of complaints and such; for I choose to ignore most of it and look for the real treasures worth keeping in my inbox. The AM Forum is something I value, so please don't rashly shut it down for the sake of an occasional pisser. So this is my two cents to the fellows who wish to hear more on this list from a cowboy in Texas. Mike Mertes KZ5M TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] AM Forum
Jim, Besides that fact that the guys on 3870 seem to have a favorite conversation piece... Their Amplifiers... They are all running near legal limit power most of the time. Bow W5EFR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 08:27 To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum Bill some years back I lived in Las Cruces, NM and operated on 3.870 plus 7.293 where I met many congenial hams. Bill/W7US, Dennis/W7QHO, Gary/ W7GMK and Lock/W1ZD all of which participated in the 3.870 group. When I moved from there to Texas, they took the initiative to contact me by email as a friend a compatriot. That remains today and recently Lock and Gary looked me up to invite me back. That is the kind of thing that makes friends. It is not the attitude I receive from the other coast. I do wish I could communicate with the West coast, but the group of SSBers Brian mentioned are adamant about causing trouble. They set up shop there some years ago when propagation was such that they could not hear you guys out there. Now that they can, they constantly complain about the "interference". Really the best alternative is to change frequency for small roundtables, but that would be difficult to achieve. Other than that, we could get on SSB and tell them we are going to join you and get ready for the fight. That is about our only options at this point. I do wish civility prevailed in these matters but, sadly, it doesn't. 73 Jim W5JO > >> On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. >> > We seem to have > a >> > very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB >> > operator(s) on the West >> > Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? >> > There is only one > station >> > from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast AMI net, > Wednesday's >> > at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates in groups >> > that > form on >> > other nights of the week. >> > >> > If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on >> > 3870? >> > >> Bill, __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/743 - Release Date: 4/2/2007 16:24 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/743 - Release Date: 4/2/2007 16:24 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
On 4/3/07, Geoff/W5OMR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not to the extent that happens up in the NorthEast... True, if you have a smaller number of people participating, less often, even if the percentage of idiots remains constant, it only makes sense that you'll have more bad activity by sheer numbers. Of course, we can't as easily record stuff in other parts of the country, but I've heard a few AM clips from down south, and recently heard a 4-Lander belching repeatedly on the air. It was probably just some SSBer trying to make things look worse than they are. Now, -someone- from up in the NorthEast tell Jim, Brian myself and others down in the 5-land area, and else where, what make's 'youse guys' so much better than everyone else? That's the feeling -we- get. No can do, Geoff - it seems to be an opinion originated and held by 'youse guys' as I surely don't feel that way. In fact, the one time I heard you on the air (when the wind was blowing just right up north here), I wanted very much to chat with you since I wasn't sure when or even if I'd hear you again. Think I was in the process of signing off to go do something important, like make dinner. Maybe you can elaborate on where or how you got this 'feeling'? Did someone tell you this, or is it more due to the prolific posting, many stations on the air from 1,2,3 land, unwillingness we have to let the SSB ops tell us when we can operate and where or ? I talk with Don, K4KYV fairly often. Granted, he's only in -4- land, but I've never gotten the impression he thinks he's any better than anyone, and I'm damned sure certain he doesn't think I am. I've learn a lot from him on amfone.net, here, and on the air. I've talked with Brian a few times, Jim a few times, and you almost once Geoff. Have I given you the idea that being from the northeast makes me better than you? With the crazy political and wx climate, I'm actually more than ready to leave. So in closing - yes, we have some idiots up here, just like anywhere else. Yes, we do have a good group who helps each other, many of whom participate regularly on the air as well. But if what you're really saying is that our posting more, chatting back and forth more, knowing each other better than we know people we've never met, working together to save the NE's biggest hamfest and so on somehow gives you the perception that we're better, I suggest you look to your own amount of participation and ask - what's holding me back? Can't blame propogation for conditions on an internet BBS. (o: Perceptions can be tricky things. Don't let them spoil your fun for you. I consider any AMers who are actively persuing the mode as friends, regardless of where they live. In fact, most of my close AM buddies live outside of New England or the northeast. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
Todd, I will not quit reading AM Fone. I will, however, not originate topics nor answer any ongoing threads. I will respond if someone directs a query to me. I am pleased to be a member of a group of people such as yourself, Don/KYV, Gary/FMX, Jim/JKO, Pete/WCA and many who do try to assist and befriend others, rather than ignoring or shutting their comments out no matter how long I have known them. I feel it is my obligation to promote Amateur Radio, in general, and AM operation specifically. Each new person I meet is welcome to join any conversations, proffer any criticism or add information to my comments as long as it is respectful. That is also a part of my reason for supporting Ted's board.http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php I do not care what equipment they use nor do I care about their location. It should be a total group thing as you, Pete, Don, Brian and many others support. As for hearing me, I find it funny that some of the guys that avoided talking to me live in rural areas with less noise than you Todd, yet you gave me a good signal report as does anyone who contacts me. Makes on wonder. Ted's board has a much less noise ratio and I have been a member since its inception. I have never seen a response there as the example I cited on AM Fone. So, thankfully I spend as much time on the air as possible which is were I draw my inspiration for repairing or modifying equipment. There I share my stories, successes, and failures. See you on the radio, live it up. Jim W5JO Well Jim, I appreciate your position and opinions in the matter, I'm just sorry you think that starting or moving to yet another board is the best recourse. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
Bill Smith wrote: There isn't any "big point." The little point is 3870 is a popular AM frequency in an AM window between 3870 and 3885. But, that's where a -lot- of people make the mistake of saying that there -is- a Window, Bill. "Officially", the ARRL recognizes 3.885Mc as the Calling Frequency for 75m AM, period. There is no 'window' (save for the AM Window website, run by WB3HUZ) where there's only AM found. Speaking of the AM Window Website, I found Ken/W2DTC's entry there, and some audio bites that's he's recorded. Remember, in this thread, when KA1KAQ said: Todd, KA1KAQ wrote: Third, I understand and agree with comments made by Geoff and others about some of the idiotic behavior that goes on in the northeast on 75. It goes on elsewhere as well. Not to the extent that happens up in the NorthEast... Listen for yourself. http://kenw2dtc.home.comcast.net/sound-bites.htm Now, -someone- from up in the NorthEast tell Jim, Brian myself and others down in the 5-land area, and else where, what make's 'youse guys' so much better than everyone else? That's the feeling -we- get. -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
- Original Message - From: "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum > On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First of all, from what can be heard, the group isn't large, in spite of > > what they would like it to be. It would appear there are 1 or 2 stations > > with others that follow on. The offenders apparently run a tremendous > > amount of power. They are also apparently unusually if not oddly committed, > > as they can be found there 365 days a year. > > > > Second of all, they have taken the belated courtesy of moving at least > > slightly off frequency (perhaps 1kHz) during the AMI net. At calmer > > moments they move off the frequency altogether. That should give you and > > other AM operators the opportunity to check in. It would be very welcome if > > you would operate AM on the AM calling frequency before they get started to > > remind them that they have moved in on a very active AM frequency, or > > suggest to them that they really are interfering. I am, however, afraid any > > attempt at the latter would only reinforce their intent. > > > > I understand 3870 has been a popular AM frequency for approximately 25 > > years, well before the SSB guys in TX took up their roost. I know they were > > not active when I first participated in AM fifteen years ago. In any event > > 3870 is currently identified by the ARRL as the West Coast AM call in > > frequency. It would be a pleasure to think they would be gentlemen enough > > to find a meeting place outside the AM window. > > > > Bill, > > I guess I don't get it. First of all, what does any of this have to > do with the original topic posted? If you have to ask > > Second, what would you have us "5 landers" do? Fight your battles for > you guys in 6 Land? This SSB group is a lot bigger than the 2 or 3 > you suggest, and I for one am not going to lay a carrier on them just > because I can! > There seem to be only one or two, not two or three. I don't think I need to repeat myself, please re-read the post, above. > What exactly are you asking or suggesting "us 5 landers" do for you? > There are groups of 6 and 7 landers that get in between 3880 and 3890 > daily on SSB. Do you think we would suggest you "6 landers" just take > care of that for us? Do you really suggest this is a personal affront? 3870 is in the AM window, and 3870 is recognized by the ARRL as the West Coast Call-In frequency. We would welcome your activity. > > Maybe I'm missing the big point here... > There isn't any "big point." The little point is 3870 is a popular AM frequency in an AM window between 3870 and 3885. 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 73 > w5ami > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
Enough of this thread!. My mailbox has been overstuffed for the past week!! Just get on the air and have fun. 73, John, W4AWM ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
I had a tough time there too, for a while. Not because anyone was intentionally avoiding me though. I'd been off the air for anything but emergency comms and testing for over 10 years, and many of my old friends were either dead or not on the 'net. Folks just didn't know or remember me, because I still wasn't on the air when I started to get active again. Seems to me that anywhere you just show up, people will tend to be a bit standoffish if they don't know who you are. Like Pete, I've had some remarks tossed my way from time to time, but ignore any ill intent. It's not a lot different than the real world, and you can't be thin-skinned if you want to enjoy yourself. I've made remarks on there about 'pissweak' stations, for example. Not to belittle, but because I've been there myself and know how it feels to be on 75 at night and not heard. When I was last on back in the early 90s, a 32V running 100 watts couldn't be heard most nights due to natural band noise as well as QRM. The guys wanted me to join in, but if I tried, it could cost them the frequency to some rude SSB ops. Even before AMfone, when I was posting to the AM Window, there were plenty of times I posted and got few or no responses. Again, it comes with the territory of not being known. I'm just the hard-headed type who will keep trying. I figure if they really don't want me, I'll make them say so. They just had to get used to me. I credit amfone and this reflector with most of the AM friends I have. If I'm going somewhere, I post my intentions and meet new folks, attend hamfests, visit stations or whatever else is possible. Realize that, like any group, it takes both sides some time to get acquainted. Many of the folks I correspond with are not from New England or even the northeast. And I certainly don't see amfone as a 'northeast' group. Skip, K7YOO is a regular, along with many others beyond 1,2,3 Land. Lately we've been trying to help Ellen, AF9J, get an AM station together and on the air. As Brian said, attitude plays a big role, all the way around. It's what you make it, really. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ On 4/3/07, Stevan A. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: something to offer here. Like Jim, I have posted viable comments and been belittled, ignored and once or twice thanked off-list. When I saw Jim's suggestion about the other forum, I checked into it and signed up. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
On 4/3/07, Stevan A. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not one to intentionally stir up strife so I will only say that I have to go along with Jim on this issue. I have been a broadcast engineer for twenty-some years with more AM experience than many of my broadcast peers. I love radio. That's why this is my hobby AND my vocation. For some silly reason I feel that occasionally I have something to offer here. Like Jim, I have posted viable comments and been belittled, ignored and once or twice thanked off-list. When I saw Jim's suggestion about the other forum, I checked into it and signed up. Whoa Stevan! I don't think Jim is talking about this email reflector, unless I missed the boat somewhere. If you have been belittled on this email reflector, please send me the details privately and I will look into it. Brian / w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
When a reflector has less than 100 members, it's sometimes a lot easier to get responses to each of your posts. As the reflector grows, it can become more difficult to expect to get a response to each response you make. I'm sure if I went and reviewed all my posts made over the last year, I'm willing to bet there are probably hundreds of them where I made a response and then there were no subsequent posts to support, refute, laugh at, etc. what I said. I don't take it personality and definitely don't let it bother me. I learned long ago that getting aggravated, pissed, etc. over things I can't control was not a healthy exercise. And, more importantly, I never let someone's "taking me to task" over any post bother me personality. Sometimes there are valid arguments and discussion, and sometimes there aren't. And, I agree, that snide remarks whether done in fun or self-gratification (and sometimes difficult to determine by the moderators unless they know the history of the poster) to a particular post sometimes will undermine the entire tone of the rest of the posting. Part of a moderators job is to weed these out if possible. Anyway, we've probably spent more time here than necessary for this discussion. Bottom line is that we're all free to go and do wherever our typing fingers take us. See you on the radio Pete, wa2cwa On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 08:42:55 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To you Pete and all, I posted Ted's site as a viable > alternative to AM Fone. On Ted's site, you will receive a > respectful answer to any post made. My comments were not > intended to implicate or indite a particular person or > group. It was mentioned so if anyone West of the > Mississippi would like an alternative, it is available. > > The person to which I referred made several snide remarks to > technical posts I made rather than be inclusive and disagree > in a respectful manner. In fact his comments is what first > made me uneasy with the direction of the board to becoming > more regionalized. You, however, have always be respectful > to all who post there. This despite the fact that I have > seen several really take you to task over your support of > the ARRL. You have also responded to inquiries I have made > in in the past. I suppose the difference may be that you > were (are) in the manual business and recognize the value of > respect for your peers, whereas some over there do not have > the benefit of trying to please most people. > > > Jim > W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum
I'm not one to intentionally stir up strife so I will only say that I have to go along with Jim on this issue. I have been a broadcast engineer for twenty-some years with more AM experience than many of my broadcast peers. I love radio. That's why this is my hobby AND my vocation. For some silly reason I feel that occasionally I have something to offer here. Like Jim, I have posted viable comments and been belittled, ignored and once or twice thanked off-list. When I saw Jim's suggestion about the other forum, I checked into it and signed up. I have only recently picked up AM boat anchor gear which I am working on to get on the air. I have had several exchanges with Jim which have been very helpful not to mention cordial. My only regret is that I have a lot of "real" work going on right now and not as much time to play as I'd like. I'm chomping at the bit to get on AM! Some of this makes me wonder why. I try never to be rude on the air; but, from this list I know who I'll more readily answer when I do get on. Come on folks, let's all grow up. Be gentlemen here and on the air. Its never too late to do the right thing. Steve White, W5SAW Jim Wilhite wrote: To you Pete and all, I posted Ted's site as a viable alternative to AM Fone. On Ted's site, you will receive a respectful answer to any post made. My comments were not intended to implicate or indite a particular person or group. It was mentioned so if anyone West of the Mississippi would like an alternative, it is available. The person to which I referred made several snide remarks to technical posts I made rather than be inclusive and disagree in a respectful manner. In fact his comments is what first made me uneasy with the direction of the board to becoming more regionalized. You, however, have always be respectful to all who post there. This despite the fact that I have seen several really take you to task over your support of the ARRL. You have also responded to inquiries I have made in in the past. I suppose the difference may be that you were (are) in the manual business and recognize the value of respect for your peers, whereas some over there do not have the benefit of trying to please most people. Jim W5JO Under Rules, it says: This is radio site dedicated to AM. The reason most come here is to meet and exchange information about our mode and hobby." Obviously, their is no requirement to have a amateur license since many short wave listeners and general radio/electronic experimenters are also interested in AM and in some of our technical discussions. The technical discussion threads can vary all over the place. Although I can't place the person you referred to below, it could be he's been a long time friend to many who responded to his posts. Could be any number of reasons. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On 4/3/07, Todd, KA1KAQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well Jim, I appreciate your position and opinions in the matter, I'm just sorry you think that starting or moving to yet another board is the best recourse. I know there are some nitwits in the northeast and I'll say this again. I think the problem lies in the fact there are very few people in this area active on amfone.net. In the QSO forum, there is a lot of chit chat of "locals" who relate to one another because they know each other from local hamfests, QSO's on the air, etc. I think the real solution would be to somehow entice hams from the areas not covered so well currently on amfone.net to join up and become a "part of the family". Feeling like the "red headed step child" is not good regardless if it's one person or many. I think Todd has a real point about too many choose to use the internet instead of getting on the damned air! Not only has the internet hurt hamfests in a big way, I also think it has put a real damper on people actually wanting to fire up their rigs and actually talk! Maybe I should close down AMRadio for a few months and see what happens! I am as guilty as anyone, as I spend way too much time in front of a CRT, but it's also my job as a programmer. I will say this too; I am not a one mode man. Some of us think it's AM or nothing, and that's fine, but what I do have a problem with are a handful of AM'ers right here in my neck of the woods who chatter about me or someone else they "consider" an AM'er to be found somewhere talking on SSB. That is the sort of petty crap that that we can do without in ham radio. Also, there are a lot of folks out there who would love to operate AM, however they have been made to feel less than dirt because they tried operating with their rice box. I've heard it happen, and I don't like it. Are we AM'ers, or boatanchor operators? Seems there is this idea that if you operate AM, you have got to use something made before you were born. I have both old and new stuff myself, and I will operate AM with either. I think AM would be a lot more popular if we welcomed the use of appliance rigs along with everything else. Why not? Well, I'm getting off track here, but this whole thing has to do with attitude, and I think we should all think about what we say, don't say, and how we treat others in general. Just because there are a lot of rednecks and kooks on 75 meters does not mean we have to follow their antics. One last comment about the AM nets in the 3880 to 3890 region; I know some of you on this list belong to a couple of these nets. PLEASE zero beat your NCS and spread the word too!! Having a net on 3885 where folks are everywhere from 3881 to 3888 checking in, basically eliminates the possibility for others who wish to operate in that little window from doing so ...it's just good operating practice. w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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From: Brett gazdzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...I don't pay any attention to the politics, fcc stuff, incentive, arrl, ... Now if someone was building something, I perk right up! But it's important to pay attention to that stuff, boring and frustrating as it may be. Remember the days of Johnny Johnston and the FCC's Private Radio Bureau, when almost monthly the FCC released yet another ill-conceived, poorly thought-out rulemaking docket, or released an RM-number to some lame petition, that managed to threaten AM operating privileges in some way, or even threaten the very existence of amateur AM? Are you still "legal" whenever you fire up your AM kilowatt? Back then we had no internet to discuss the issues, and had to rely on printed publications and snail mail. Sometimes most of us were lucky to even find out about a rulemaking petition by ARRL or some disgruntled anti-AM'er, or an FCC rulemaking proposal, before the cut-off date for the comment period. With the advent of the internet with amateur radio discussion forums and e-mail reflectors, hardly a phrase from FCC, ARRL, or any vocal anti-AM'er can get by without the entire AM community knowing about it within hours of its release. Notice how the anti-AM actions have dwindled in recent years, and AM has become a widely accepted facet of mainstream amateur radio, even regaining some recognition by ARRL and QST. But we still can't afford to ignore the political stuff from ARRL, FCC or disgruntled hams. Look what has happened to major political candidates from both parties when they simply ignored bogus attack ads and hoped they would fade away. I love building, modifying and operating AM stuff, and I want to maintain the right to do so. There are still many out there that would do anything they possibly could to have that privilege taken away. Don k4kyv __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Well Jim, I appreciate your position and opinions in the matter, I'm just sorry you think that starting or moving to yet another board is the best recourse. I know there are some nitwits in the northeast and it probably seems like the northeast/east coast guys think they rule the roost. On the contrary, it seems pretty obvious to me that this group is only more active, therefore higher profile, more people, etc. More people = more idiots heard from, even if only a small percentage. Voices carry as they say, much further over the air. I've always seen your posts as helpful, informative, and viewed you as just another one of the guys in the group. And trust me - I'd call you on the air more if signals would allow. I bet a lot of the guys don't hear you well or at all, considering the noise in the AM ghetto. Two in particular live only a few miles apart, and crank their RF gain down to get rid of the SSB noise. Which is why I think, regardless of anything else, that staying right around 2-3 set frequencies is the worst thing we can do. It invites trouble, makes us a target, and paints a bad picture for others while making it unpleasant for us. As an aside, I did a quick check of the board after my lengthy rant on here. I saw posts today from California, Wisconsin, Virginia, Maine, VT (big surprise), Maryland, Tennessee, NY, South Dakota, CT, and others I surely missed. I really don't see it as non-inclusive or unwelcoming, more than different people have different styles, and you just need to jump in and not be thin-skinned. You've made over 1000 posts there. Why do you now feel like you're not part of the bigger picture? Am I one of the bad guys since I didn't respond to your post? I hope not. For those who are sick of Deerfield talk, I offer this: Deerfield is to us what Belton is to you, or Gaithersburg was to the guys in 3 Land, and so on. It's a bigger deal now because we're returning to our roots after 15 years away. Hopefully folks too far away to attend will understand this and be happy to see so much interest in amateur radio in general, and AM in particular. I've been to Hamcation in Orlando, and hope to make all the big 'fests someday. I'm just glad someone still bothers! Whatever you decide, I hope you'll still join in with the group on amfone. There are many who don't agree with what the few do, and we don't let them ruin our fun. This is true anywhere, with any group. I think if more folks go off the internet and back on the air, the activity would follow the good operators. It did for a while when the phone privileges were expanded. ~ Todd KA1KAQ On 4/3/07, Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Todd, you are one of the guys, like Pete who made me feel comfortable on AM Fone. You are one of the guys, along with WD8BIL __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Todd, you are one of the guys, like Pete who made me feel comfortable on AM Fone. You are one of the guys, along with WD8BIL and K1KAQ who would actually let me in a conversation. You even called me on the air. That is inclusiveness. The example I gave is but just one. There have been topics to which I have posted only to have further commenters ignore the message I put up, even thought it was apropos Again I am not inditing anyone or group. I am promoting a different board where I have felt welcome and see meaningful replies to what I post in a topic. I have also see other people from this part of the country post there and they, too, are just passed over. I hope I have not ruffled your feathers, for that is not my intent. Jim W5JO Fourth, Jim - I like you, you're a very good guy, decent sort, and so on. I've worked you on the air, most distant contact I had made to that point. I've responded to your posts and comments in the past many times, here and on amfone. The post you're referring to doesn't seem to have a whole lot to respond to, with respect to the joke itself, radio, or anything else. I read it, checked the links, what more was there to add? I've made posts on there that got plenty of reads and few or no responses. I didn't take it personally, I really wish you wouldn't either. It's an internet site, meant to supplement our on-air AM activities. I haven't had time to check, but I suspect any posts you've made asking technical questions received good answers. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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This is ridiculous! Why is anyone pissing and moaning about feeling ignored, or anything else having to do with an internet BBS? GET ON THE AIR. Let me add a few observations of my own: First, if there's interference on a frequency, MOVE! What happened to all of the excitement of the 'new phone spectrum' on 80 and 40? I've worked a number of folks below 3800 who exclaimed how excited they were, how nice and quiet it is 'down there' and so on, only to never hear them again. I understand that some folks are running rigs that aren't "frequency agile". Somehow, I doubt that this represents the majority. TUNE YOUR VFO! CALL CQ! Don't wait around for someone else to do it for you. Get on earlier, don't wait until the frequencies are busy with SSB. Second, considering the issues the AM community has had with representation (or lack thereof) both on the bands and off, *why* would you want to split the focus and have several groups to watch, maintain, and whatever else? It seems pretty pointless, more of an issue of ego than practicality. AMfone is an excellent resource, with a lot of helpful information and documentation. IMHO, far too many people are using it as a substitute for getting on the air. Maybe this is a bigger part of the real issue? Third, I understand and agree with comments made by Geoff and others about some of the idiotic behavior that goes on in the northeast on 75. It goes on elsewhere as well. To me, it's even more of a reason to use the frequencies below 3800. I don't excuse it, nor do I condone it, and at times it makes me anxious to move south. Yet what do I have to look forward to there in 4 Land? From actual accounts by folks here on the list (maybe not word-for-word, but close) as well as comments on the air, 'the SSBers won't let us run AM down here, except on 3.885.' Who's fault is that?? Add to this the number of folks who aren't on at night, or don't bother at all - how much better or different is it there, or out in 6 Land where the SSB ops from 5 Land jam them? The only reason the lids stick out here in the northeast is the lack of 'decent, congenial folks' getting on the air as an alternative. The phone expansion was a clear example, short-lived as it was. You can't blame the lids for that - at least they're on the air regularly. Same goes for the SSB crowd. Don't like it? Get on the air and do something about it! Don't wait for others to do it for you. Or do we really need "A NET" as a reason to get on? Lame. Other than the AMI net in 4 Land or the Collins AM net, I hear VERY FEW on down there with any regularity. 'KYV, 'AMI, RHK and a few others like Jim. Put yourselves in a box, suffer the consequences. Fourth, Jim - I like you, you're a very good guy, decent sort, and so on. I've worked you on the air, most distant contact I had made to that point. I've responded to your posts and comments in the past many times, here and on amfone. The post you're referring to doesn't seem to have a whole lot to respond to, with respect to the joke itself, radio, or anything else. I read it, checked the links, what more was there to add? I've made posts on there that got plenty of reads and few or no responses. I didn't take it personally, I really wish you wouldn't either. It's an internet site, meant to supplement our on-air AM activities. I haven't had time to check, but I suspect any posts you've made asking technical questions received good answers. Just a guess here, but perhaps folks should *participate* more and complain less, if they want to improve things? We can play the ego-oriented 'my turf, your turf' games, but it won't do any of is a bit of good in the long run. More specifically, I think we need to focus LESS on the internet and MORE on getting on the air. I've been on many nights calling CQ down below 3800 with little or no response. Be part of the solution, not yet another one in the crowd who complains about the state of things, but does nothing to change it. If you don't like what you hear on a specific frequency, go start a new QSO elsewhere. Or stay in a rut, stay off the air, feel sorry for yourselves, stay on the internet and wonder why activity suffers for it. We alone create most of the problems of the AM community with our attitudes and practices. We alone can change it. It just depends how important it is to us. Very few seem willing to make the needed changes. Of those who are active, most prefer clinging to old, failed methods and frequencies instead of moving forward. Is it any wonder that things are the way they are? I have a blown mod transformer now, so I can't contribute much on the air. But night after night, the number carrying the torch seems to be few, compared to those seen on here. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: h
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To you Pete and all, I posted Ted's site as a viable alternative to AM Fone. On Ted's site, you will receive a respectful answer to any post made. My comments were not intended to implicate or indite a particular person or group. It was mentioned so if anyone West of the Mississippi would like an alternative, it is available. The person to which I referred made several snide remarks to technical posts I made rather than be inclusive and disagree in a respectful manner. In fact his comments is what first made me uneasy with the direction of the board to becoming more regionalized. You, however, have always be respectful to all who post there. This despite the fact that I have seen several really take you to task over your support of the ARRL. You have also responded to inquiries I have made in in the past. I suppose the difference may be that you were (are) in the manual business and recognize the value of respect for your peers, whereas some over there do not have the benefit of trying to please most people. Jim W5JO Under Rules, it says: This is radio site dedicated to AM. The reason most come here is to meet and exchange information about our mode and hobby." Obviously, their is no requirement to have a amateur license since many short wave listeners and general radio/electronic experimenters are also interested in AM and in some of our technical discussions. The technical discussion threads can vary all over the place. Although I can't place the person you referred to below, it could be he's been a long time friend to many who responded to his posts. Could be any number of reasons. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Bill some years back I lived in Las Cruces, NM and operated on 3.870 plus 7.293 where I met many congenial hams. Bill/W7US, Dennis/W7QHO, Gary/ W7GMK and Lock/W1ZD all of which participated in the 3.870 group. When I moved from there to Texas, they took the initiative to contact me by email as a friend a compatriot. That remains today and recently Lock and Gary looked me up to invite me back. That is the kind of thing that makes friends. It is not the attitude I receive from the other coast. I do wish I could communicate with the West coast, but the group of SSBers Brian mentioned are adamant about causing trouble. They set up shop there some years ago when propagation was such that they could not hear you guys out there. Now that they can, they constantly complain about the "interference". Really the best alternative is to change frequency for small roundtables, but that would be difficult to achieve. Other than that, we could get on SSB and tell them we are going to join you and get ready for the fight. That is about our only options at this point. I do wish civility prevailed in these matters but, sadly, it doesn't. 73 Jim W5JO On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. > We seem to have a > very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB > operator(s) on the West > Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? > There is only one station > from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast > AMI net, Wednesday's > at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates > in groups that form on > other nights of the week. > > If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why > none on 3870? > Bill, __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Bill you will probably never se the Texas guys on 3.870 as it is a big SSB freq here in Texas...You talk about starting a WAR...These guys have been there every day for 20 years...They complain enough about you guys then for us to go there... Geoff is right on 80,85 and 90...That is were we all hang out...And by the way there are a lot more then 100 of us Amers out there in Tx, Ar, OK, La...Strong group of great guys... Bob W1PE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff/W5OMR Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:21 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum Bill Smith wrote: > I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to > have a very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on > the West Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is > only one station from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West > Coast AMI net, Wednesday's at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also > participates in groups that form on other nights of the week. > > If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? I'd like to see more West Coasters on 3.880 or 3.885. -- __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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That Pete is part of the problem. And even though I post something technical or make a post to another discussion it goes unanswered. Jim W5JO Maybe the majority just don't care to respond to "April Fool" posts. I personality find them a waste of time to even read much less respond. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Bill Smith wrote: It would be very welcome if you would operate AM on the AM calling frequency before they get started uhm... the ARRL recognized AM Calling frequency is 3.885MHz. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Bill Smith wrote: I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to have a very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on the West Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is only one station from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast AMI net, Wednesday's at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates in groups that form on other nights of the week. If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? I'd like to see more West Coasters on 3.880 or 3.885. -- __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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A.R.S. - W5AMI wrote: On 4/2/07, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. That in itself is a concern. 6% of the total population (1550 members) are from 5 land? What has happened to them all? Or should I say, why have they not joined? There are likely 100 AM'ers in Texas alone... The mid-west section of the monthly Collins AM net is a good example of the number of hams in this area. I, personally, have never had a desire to have to -go to a site- to read a list. Put in my in-box, and I'm a happy camper. Another -good- thing about living in 5-land, is we don't have the 'issues' that are " enjoyed " by the NorEasters... like.. K1MAN and the feelings of anger, the on-air expressions of emotions that I've heard... language used, by AM'ers, that *I* would be embarrassed to hear in public... I don't hear that in most any other part of the country, except the Northeast. Do the NorEasterners think they are more 'elite' where 'most' of them have been heard, on more than one occasion, to run through the 'entire' list of the 'Seven Dirty Words', at least once a day, if not once an hour. What has happened to the 'gentlemen' of this hobby in the North East US? Personally, in regards to those in the North East that enjoy 'pushing the envelope', I'm kinda glad that propagation isn't good now, between 5-land and 1/2/3 land. I'm completely happy to be back to the more 'technical' aspects of Real Radio. Don't get me wrong, I'm not -generalizing- that ALL of the hams in the NorthEast subscribe to this 'feeling of eliteness', but having driven through there while mobile on more then a half-dozen occasions and "listening" to how things are up there, there's no one here that can deny that these atrocities do occur, and quite frequently, and with alarming regularity. -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W*5*OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Maybe the majority just don't care to respond to "April Fool" posts. I personality find them a waste of time to even read much less respond. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:29:49 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike here is an example of recent parentage. > > http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=10751.0 > > Notice the number of responses and chatter. > > There is a post of a personal nature that I was tempted to > use as an example, but decided against it. That post > however has a total of 6 responses with the last today. It > started March 30th. > > There are many more > > Jim > W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Very unscientific Brian. After Jim's initial or second post, I just went to the member's list and did a search and count on W5's, K5's, KA5's, WA5's, WB5's, and N5's. But as K5MYJ pointed out in another post, some of those could have been located in other parts of the country. Also, no way to tell how many others that are in 5 land, that didn't list a call when they joined. The current "search" criteria does not allow a "search by geographical location". I'm sure that the data can be retrieved but I'm not sure what you would do with the data. A quick look at the member's list shows that out of 1550 registered members, only 642 have ever made 1 or more post. Of course "guest" lurkers probably number in many many hundreds, if not thousands. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:45:30 -0500 "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 4/2/07, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. > Of > > BTW Pete, how did you make this count? This is something Gary > would > probably be interested in. I truly think he would want to create > ways > to reach out to the entire USA, particularly with numbers like > those. > Maybe a Poll on amfone to simply let members click which district > they > are (physically) in would help determine if things are skewed... > > w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Under Rules, it says: This is radio site dedicated to AM. The reason most come here is to meet and exchange information about our mode and hobby." Obviously, their is no requirement to have a amateur license since many short wave listeners and general radio/electronic experimenters are also interested in AM and in some of our technical discussions. The technical discussion threads can vary all over the place. Although I can't place the person you referred to below, it could be he's been a long time friend to many who responded to his posts. Could be any number of reasons. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:37:20 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Good question Bill. I don't see many from the West coast > participating even though there are several members out > there. > > I don't believe anyone sets the border, as you put it, but > most posts from anywhere outside of the group is mostly > ignored. Technical questions have limited participation if > they originate from anywhere South of Virginia. > > There was a member of that board who did not have a license > that posted for quite a while. He was a friend of someone > back in the area in question and had moved to California. > First question, what is a guy with no license doing posting > on a ham board? Second question why would the majority of > posting members respond to even his personal posts when they > barely will answer anything most of us South of Virginia and > West of the Mississippi put up? > > Jim > W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First of all, from what can be heard, the group isn't large, in spite of what they would like it to be. It would appear there are 1 or 2 stations with others that follow on. The offenders apparently run a tremendous amount of power. They are also apparently unusually if not oddly committed, as they can be found there 365 days a year. Second of all, they have taken the belated courtesy of moving at least slightly off frequency (perhaps 1kHz) during the AMI net. At calmer moments they move off the frequency altogether. That should give you and other AM operators the opportunity to check in. It would be very welcome if you would operate AM on the AM calling frequency before they get started to remind them that they have moved in on a very active AM frequency, or suggest to them that they really are interfering. I am, however, afraid any attempt at the latter would only reinforce their intent. I understand 3870 has been a popular AM frequency for approximately 25 years, well before the SSB guys in TX took up their roost. I know they were not active when I first participated in AM fifteen years ago. In any event 3870 is currently identified by the ARRL as the West Coast AM call in frequency. It would be a pleasure to think they would be gentlemen enough to find a meeting place outside the AM window. Bill, I guess I don't get it. First of all, what does any of this have to do with the original topic posted? Second, what would you have us "5 landers" do? Fight your battles for you guys in 6 Land? This SSB group is a lot bigger than the 2 or 3 you suggest, and I for one am not going to lay a carrier on them just because I can! What exactly are you asking or suggesting "us 5 landers" do for you? There are groups of 6 and 7 landers that get in between 3880 and 3890 daily on SSB. Do you think we would suggest you "6 landers" just take care of that for us? Maybe I'm missing the big point here... 73 w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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- Original Message - From: "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum > On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to have a > > very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on the West > > Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is only one station > > from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast AMI net, Wednesday's > > at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates in groups that form on > > other nights of the week. > > > > If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? > > > Bill, > > There is a large SSB group in Texas on 3870 every night, all night > long. I have checked into the AMI net on 3870 myself, but only when > the band went long and the SSB guys in TX couldn't hear me, and I > couldn't hear them. The time your AMI starts is prime time for this > Texas SSB group, and I would be breaking rules if I jumped in on AM > right on top of them to check in. First of all, from what can be heard, the group isn't large, in spite of what they would like it to be. It would appear there are 1 or 2 stations with others that follow on. The offenders apparently run a tremendous amount of power. They are also apparently unusually if not oddly committed, as they can be found there 365 days a year. Second of all, they have taken the belated courtesy of moving at least slightly off frequency (perhaps 1kHz) during the AMI net. At calmer moments they move off the frequency altogether. That should give you and other AM operators the opportunity to check in. It would be very welcome if you would operate AM on the AM calling frequency before they get started to remind them that they have moved in on a very active AM frequency, or suggest to them that they really are interfering. I am, however, afraid any attempt at the latter would only reinforce their intent. I understand 3870 has been a popular AM frequency for approximately 25 years, well before the SSB guys in TX took up their roost. I know they were not active when I first participated in AM fifteen years ago. In any event 3870 is currently identified by the ARRL as the West Coast AM call in frequency. It would be a pleasure to think they would be gentlemen enough to find a meeting place outside the AM window. 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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The NW AM group operates on 3870 most evings between about 4:30PM and 6PM Paciific Time. I know they are ther but I am in a location I can only detect their carriers. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa "Real Radios Glow In The Dark" __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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That would be my problem as well! Bow W5EFR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A.R.S. - W5AMI Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 22:19 To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to > have a very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on > the West Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is > only one station from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West > Coast AMI net, Wednesday's at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also > participates in groups that form on other nights of the week. > > If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? > Bill, There is a large SSB group in Texas on 3870 every night, all night long. I have checked into the AMI net on 3870 myself, but only when the band went long and the SSB guys in TX couldn't hear me, and I couldn't hear them. The time your AMI starts is prime time for this Texas SSB group, and I would be breaking rules if I jumped in on AM right on top of them to check in. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/742 - Release Date: 4/1/2007 20:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/742 - Release Date: 4/1/2007 20:49 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On 4/2/07, Bill Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to have a very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on the West Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is only one station from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast AMI net, Wednesday's at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates in groups that form on other nights of the week. If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? Bill, There is a large SSB group in Texas on 3870 every night, all night long. I have checked into the AMI net on 3870 myself, but only when the band went long and the SSB guys in TX couldn't hear me, and I couldn't hear them. The time your AMI starts is prime time for this Texas SSB group, and I would be breaking rules if I jumped in on AM right on top of them to check in. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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The only stations I ever hear on 3870 are the SSB'ers. They are on most of the time. I quite often hear some guys on 3880 on the east side of Texas running AM and they sound good, I have never tried to check in with them, do to my lack of a good AM transmitter or power. Bow W5EFR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Smith Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 22:13 To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to have a very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on the West Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is only one station from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast AMI net, Wednesday's at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates in groups that form on other nights of the week. If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum > Good question Bill. I don't see many from the West coast > participating even though there are several members out > there. > > I don't believe anyone sets the border, as you put it, but > most posts from anywhere outside of the group is mostly > ignored. Technical questions have limited participation if > they originate from anywhere South of Virginia. > > There was a member of that board who did not have a license > that posted for quite a while. He was a friend of someone > back in the area in question and had moved to California. > First question, what is a guy with no license doing posting > on a ham board? Second question why would the majority of > posting members respond to even his personal posts when they > barely will answer anything most of us South of Virginia and > West of the Mississippi put up? > > Jim > W5JO > > > > > > > > Frankly, it is hard to tell from where a post originates. > > Doubt there is > > even the least effort to ignore a post only because of its > > geographic > > source. For example, who sets the borders of posts to > > ignore? Further, who > > sets the borders of responses to watch? > > > > Nonsense! > > > > Belton? Deerfield? How about the West Coast? GUD? > > > > 73 de Bill, AB6MT > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/742 - Release Date: 4/1/2007 20:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/742 - Release Date: 4/1/2007 20:49 __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I for one would like to see 5-land AM activity on 3870. We seem to have a very active, if few in number, contingent of SSB operator(s) on the West Coast Calling Frequency. Where are AM operators? There is only one station from Oklahoma who checks in regularly to the West Coast AMI net, Wednesday's at 8:00pm, 7:00pm Central Time. He also participates in groups that form on other nights of the week. If there are > 100 stations operating AM in Texas, why none on 3870? 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum > Good question Bill. I don't see many from the West coast > participating even though there are several members out > there. > > I don't believe anyone sets the border, as you put it, but > most posts from anywhere outside of the group is mostly > ignored. Technical questions have limited participation if > they originate from anywhere South of Virginia. > > There was a member of that board who did not have a license > that posted for quite a while. He was a friend of someone > back in the area in question and had moved to California. > First question, what is a guy with no license doing posting > on a ham board? Second question why would the majority of > posting members respond to even his personal posts when they > barely will answer anything most of us South of Virginia and > West of the Mississippi put up? > > Jim > W5JO > > > > > > > > Frankly, it is hard to tell from where a post originates. > > Doubt there is > > even the least effort to ignore a post only because of its > > geographic > > source. For example, who sets the borders of posts to > > ignore? Further, who > > sets the borders of responses to watch? > > > > Nonsense! > > > > Belton? Deerfield? How about the West Coast? GUD? > > > > 73 de Bill, AB6MT > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I have a K5 call but I live near Seattle. My current call is my original call from Austin in 1957. That kind of thing might skew things. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Near Seattle, Wa "Real Radios Glow In The Dark" __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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No apologies necessary Mike. That is why these places exist. Discussion is the name of the game. It is not just the hamfests I am speaking about it is other queries and posts. If I am being unfair, then are posts that I make ignored. Even posts to active subjects where I make a point, the other jump over what I have said as though it is not relevant and refer to other comments. I don't know Mike, maybe you are right, but others have mentioned the same thing to me and I don't see them posting there anymore. I posted the original message hoping to get some of those guys in our part of the country to improve their activity. Jim W5JO I apologize for the rant here, but I think you (Jim) are being unfair in your assumptions of the AM Fone BB. I used way more bandwidth than I intended, sorry. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On 4/2/07, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. Of BTW Pete, how did you make this count? This is something Gary would probably be interested in. I truly think he would want to create ways to reach out to the entire USA, particularly with numbers like those. Maybe a Poll on amfone to simply let members click which district they are (physically) in would help determine if things are skewed... w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Good question Bill. I don't see many from the West coast participating even though there are several members out there. I don't believe anyone sets the border, as you put it, but most posts from anywhere outside of the group is mostly ignored. Technical questions have limited participation if they originate from anywhere South of Virginia. There was a member of that board who did not have a license that posted for quite a while. He was a friend of someone back in the area in question and had moved to California. First question, what is a guy with no license doing posting on a ham board? Second question why would the majority of posting members respond to even his personal posts when they barely will answer anything most of us South of Virginia and West of the Mississippi put up? Jim W5JO Frankly, it is hard to tell from where a post originates. Doubt there is even the least effort to ignore a post only because of its geographic source. For example, who sets the borders of posts to ignore? Further, who sets the borders of responses to watch? Nonsense! Belton? Deerfield? How about the West Coast? GUD? 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Mike here is an example of recent parentage. http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=10751.0 Notice the number of responses and chatter. There is a post of a personal nature that I was tempted to use as an example, but decided against it. That post however has a total of 6 responses with the last today. It started March 30th. There are many more Jim W5JO - Original Message - From: "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum Brian said: That in itself is a concern. 6% of the total population (1550 members) are from 5 land? What has happened to them all? Or should I say, why have they not joined? There are likely 100 AM'ers in Texas alone... The mid-west section of the monthly Collins AM net is a good example of the number of hams in this area. I thought about that too, Brian. My only explanation is that they don't care to post. But every time I get on the board, I see up at the top "X members reading this post; Y Guests reading this post." So they may just "listen." But I haven't seen where anyone has been ignored on that BB. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Jim (and others), I don't care about Belton, but damned if you posted some pictures about it, I would most certainly be inclined to look. I recall some one having a "boat anchor" shoot from "6" land. It was certainly controversial and people most certainly did not ignore it. Check out the latest from Frank's Post Timonium Party compiled by Ken W2DTC, http://w2dtc.com/2007-0331-post-timonium-party-2007-page.htm Check those people out! They are all brought together by one simple thing: AM radio. That is what is all about. Now, there is nobody stopping you or anyone else from 5-land from doing the same thing. I know that the people from the "East" will comment and be just as envious. Cripes, I spent more money in gas than I did at the fest. But it was worth it to shake hands with people that I only hear behind a microphone. I apologize for the rant here, but I think you (Jim) are being unfair in your assumptions of the AM Fone BB. I used way more bandwidth than I intended, sorry. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum Mike, ever check the responses to posts from 5 Land. Might as well be invisible. Who cares about Deerfield Belton is coming up and no one up there cares. Jim W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Brett, I am echoing your activity on 40. There is a group who meet on Sat. and Sun. about 7160 or so at 3 PM your time. Up until last year, I could hear them all. They are in Texas, Louisiana, Southern Miss. and Arkansas and I can't hear all of them now. So I don't join in as I did in the past. On 7.290 - 93 I cannot hear many stations at all. There is a station in Rio Ranchos, NM that until the last year I could hear, but not now. He is regularly in conversation with several stations on the weekend now. 80 meters can be the same way at times here. Most signals I hear in the evening hours from up your way are ok, but I can't recover enough audio to identify most of them so I don't join. I have attempted to break into their roundtables in the past, just to be ignored. There are some up that way that will talk to us, but many do not like our operating mode. So I avoid even trying to work them. Some of them are on 1.885 in the evening, but the signals from up there are not strong enough to even hear the audio. I have the same treatment on that board so I am reading it only. I will not make any posts unless specifically asked a question. Recently a guy there wanted some DX 100 parts that I happened to have. It took me a week to get boxes and pack the material and he has refused to answer posted or even direct messages although he told me he wanted the stuff. I packed more than he asked to be sent, but now it is if I don't exist. He, just this past week reposted for the same parts. I sent him another message telling him that I had the stuff ready and he hasn't had the courtesy to respond. This is indicative of the treatment many of us down here receive. I am not trying to drive a wedge between any of the AM people around the country, but am quite tired of this treatment and hope that many of us who live in this part of the country will move over to Ted's board where we can have a civil exchange. I hope you do join over there. Spirited discussions are always fun. Jim W5JO Jim, Here in south jersey, on weekends, 40 meters is dead dead dead. There used to be loads of people on, 30 or 40 at the same time and now its zero, is it the solar cycle? I hear weak signals on 80 weekend days sometimes, guys way up north, although Nick, KG2IR is often strong, he is talking to guys I cant hear As far as the list here goes, I don't pay any attention to the politics, fcc stuff, incentive, arrl, or even the hamfest stuff. Now if someone was building something, I perk right up! Well, it will be motorcycle and yard work time soon anyway... Brett N2DTS __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Frankly, it is hard to tell from where a post originates. Doubt there is even the least effort to ignore a post only because of its geographic source. For example, who sets the borders of posts to ignore? Further, who sets the borders of responses to watch? Nonsense! Belton? Deerfield? How about the West Coast? GUD? 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum > Mike, ever check the responses to posts from 5 Land. Might > as well be invisible. Who cares about Deerfield Belton > is coming up and no one up there cares. > > Jim > W5JO > > > > > As the show states, "Pardon the Interruption" but who is > > being ignored on > > the AM Fone list?? > > Mod-U-Lator, > > Mike(y) > > W3SLK > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Brian said: That in itself is a concern. 6% of the total population (1550 members) are from 5 land? What has happened to them all? Or should I say, why have they not joined? There are likely 100 AM'ers in Texas alone... The mid-west section of the monthly Collins AM net is a good example of the number of hams in this area. I thought about that too, Brian. My only explanation is that they don't care to post. But every time I get on the board, I see up at the top "X members reading this post; Y Guests reading this post." So they may just "listen." But I haven't seen where anyone has been ignored on that BB. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Jim, Here in south jersey, on weekends, 40 meters is dead dead dead. There used to be loads of people on, 30 or 40 at the same time and now its zero, is it the solar cycle? I hear weak signals on 80 weekend days sometimes, guys way up north, although Nick, KG2IR is often strong, he is talking to guys I cant hear As far as the list here goes, I don't pay any attention to the politics, fcc stuff, incentive, arrl, or even the hamfest stuff. Now if someone was building something, I perk right up! Well, it will be motorcycle and yard work time soon anyway... Brett N2DTS > Brett, as someone I have bantered back and forth with over > several years, I would talk to you if I hear you. I will > even answer your post in a friendly manner, provided I know > the subject. > > It doesn't matter is I am interested in the subject or not, > if I have something to contribute, I will. This is not the > case over on the other place many times. > > Jim > W5JO > > __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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No Timonium report?? Dave, W3ST/W3CRA Publisher of the Collins Journal Secretary to the Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com - the CRA Website Now with PayPal CRA Nets: 3.805 Mhz every Monday at 8 PM EDST and 14.253 Mhz every Saturday at 12 Noon EDST Collins Chatroom - Daily at 4 PM EDST on 7.208 Mhz - Original Message - From: "Peter Markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. Of those, only 25 have even made a post. No one can be forced to make a post. Of course, you Jim have made 1030 posts since you joined and approximately 15 others of the 25 who have made a post, have made more than 25 posts. In the Announcements or QSO Section, you're free as a member to post an upcoming hamfest or start a discussion about the events of a past hamfest or gathering. The Announcements Section is open to any member to post upcoming events in their area. Hey, even in New Jersey, I really don't give much of a hoot about the Deerfield hamfest either, but some members do. If you have some interesting experiences about the upcoming Belton hamfest, or even past experiences, put them up there. If you don't post it, don't expect a response. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 18:15:13 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike, ever check the responses to posts from 5 Land. Might as well be invisible. Who cares about Deerfield Belton is coming up and no one up there cares. Jim W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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On 4/2/07, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. That in itself is a concern. 6% of the total population (1550 members) are from 5 land? What has happened to them all? Or should I say, why have they not joined? There are likely 100 AM'ers in Texas alone... The mid-west section of the monthly Collins AM net is a good example of the number of hams in this area. 73 Brian __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I read the comment you referred to, and it makes no sense for me to comment on what some person's attitude or state of mind might be as they type a response behind the vail of a computer keyboard. Maybe he was having a bad hair day. As you look over the number of comments just over the last week, they have come from all over the country and from several foreign countries. I firmly believe the board itself does not show favoritism to any one part of the country other than lots of members are located in the Eastern and/or Northeastern part of the country. When you get a chance, check out the members list. I bet we hit all 50 states and a number of countries and, more importantly, the membership is growing. If you have ideas to help improve the board, pass them on to Gary or one of the administrators. They're always looking for new ideas and things to make the members happy. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:28:34 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Good try Pete. I have made posts to several forums as you > data indicates. Many of my queries or posts are ignored as > if I am the bast*** child at the party. > > There are many good silent people there mostly because of > responses they see like this one: > http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=10737.0 > > You posted in this one forum, but scroll down three posts > and see what I have noticed lately. This is not good and > not necessary. I have been a member of this list more years > than Gary has been the boss and I have noticed a definite > drift to the NE part of the country because of the mentioned > attitude in the post mention above or totally ignoring some > others. > > Jim > W5JO > __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Brett, as someone I have bantered back and forth with over several years, I would talk to you if I hear you. I will even answer your post in a friendly manner, provided I know the subject. It doesn't matter is I am interested in the subject or not, if I have something to contribute, I will. This is not the case over on the other place many times. Jim W5JO I am ignored on the air! 40 has been dead lately, as has 80 in the daytime on weekends, so I bought and built an elecraft K2 and am relearning the code. (the K2 is a great little radio, and fun to build). Brett N2DTS __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Good try Pete. I have made posts to several forums as you data indicates. Many of my queries or posts are ignored as if I am the bast*** child at the party. There are many good silent people there mostly because of responses they see like this one: http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=10737.0 You posted in this one forum, but scroll down three posts and see what I have noticed lately. This is not good and not necessary. I have been a member of this list more years than Gary has been the boss and I have noticed a definite drift to the NE part of the country because of the mentioned attitude in the post mention above or totally ignoring some others. Jim W5JO During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. Of those, only 25 have even made a post. No one can be forced to make a post. Of course, you Jim have made 1030 posts since you joined and approximately 15 others of the 25 who have made a post, have made more than 25 posts. In the Announcements or QSO Section, you're free as a member to post an upcoming hamfest or start a discussion about the events of a past hamfest or gathering. The Announcements Section is open to any member to post upcoming events in their area. Hey, even in New Jersey, I really don't give much of a hoot about the Deerfield hamfest either, but some members do. If you have some interesting experiences about the upcoming Belton hamfest, or even past experiences, put them up there. If you don't post it, don't expect a response. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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I am ignored on the air! 40 has been dead lately, as has 80 in the daytime on weekends, so I bought and built an elecraft K2 and am relearning the code. (the K2 is a great little radio, and fun to build). Brett N2DTS > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wilhite > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:55 PM > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [AMRadio] AM Forum > > To those of you who are tired of being ignored on the AM > Fone list, there is an alternative. > > http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php > > Ted's list is low noise and is not so regionalized. > > Jim > W5JO > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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During a rough count, I see approximately 100 members from 5 land. Of those, only 25 have even made a post. No one can be forced to make a post. Of course, you Jim have made 1030 posts since you joined and approximately 15 others of the 25 who have made a post, have made more than 25 posts. In the Announcements or QSO Section, you're free as a member to post an upcoming hamfest or start a discussion about the events of a past hamfest or gathering. The Announcements Section is open to any member to post upcoming events in their area. Hey, even in New Jersey, I really don't give much of a hoot about the Deerfield hamfest either, but some members do. If you have some interesting experiences about the upcoming Belton hamfest, or even past experiences, put them up there. If you don't post it, don't expect a response. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 18:15:13 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike, ever check the responses to posts from 5 Land. Might > as well be invisible. Who cares about Deerfield Belton > is coming up and no one up there cares. > > Jim > W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Mike, ever check the responses to posts from 5 Land. Might as well be invisible. Who cares about Deerfield Belton is coming up and no one up there cares. Jim W5JO As the show states, "Pardon the Interruption" but who is being ignored on the AM Fone list?? Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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As the show states, "Pardon the Interruption" but who is being ignored on the AM Fone list?? Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: [AMRadio] AM Forum To those of you who are tired of being ignored on the AM Fone list, there is an alternative. http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php Ted's list is low noise and is not so regionalized. Jim W5JO __ AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
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Same here. I suspect Gary's getting smothered in emails, and is getting the site done first before answering all the emails. 73 Mark K3MSB - Original Message - From: "peter A Markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum > I sent Gary mail earlier today asking the same question. No reply yet. I > believe there's movement to a new server going on. > Pete > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:22:35 -0500 "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > I thought Gary said that the Forum would be down over Nov. I tried to > > bring it up today and it requested my username and password. I > > tried the one I was issued when I joined the Forum and it does seem > > to work. Anyone have an idea behind what's going on? > > Mike(y) > > W3SLK > > __ > __ > AMRadio mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net >
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r Nov. I tried to bring >it up today and it requested my username and password. I tried the one I >was issued when I joined the Forum and it does seem to work. Anyone have an >idea behind what's going on? Were we issued a password, or were allowed to submit our own? I don't remember. I used what I thought was my password and it didn'twork. But if we were issued a password, I don't remember it. I just set my computer to remember the password, and I thought it was the one I use with several sites.. Don K4KYV
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Mine does NOT work. Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: "Jim Wilhite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio" Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM Forum Yours does work? Mine doesn't and I am wondering what the deal is? 73 Jim W5JO - Original Message - From: "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I thought Gary said that the Forum would be down over Nov. I tried to bring >it up today and it requested my username and password. I tried the one I >was issued when I joined the Forum and it does seem to work. Anyone have an >idea behind what's going on? > Mike(y) > W3SLK > __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
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Yours does work? Mine doesn't and I am wondering what the deal is? 73 Jim W5JO - Original Message - From: "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought Gary said that the Forum would be down over Nov. I tried to bring it up today and it requested my username and password. I tried the one I was issued when I joined the Forum and it does seem to work. Anyone have an idea behind what's going on? Mike(y) W3SLK
