[arr] Re: Kata Kata redeems Indian values cheapened by Chiggy-Wiggy

2010-04-30 Thread pravindersheoran
To be honest the way youngsters are going, Indian values will be a things of 
past very soon.

And then, only a few like us will just be left with our old memories and Kata 
Kata song.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 18 years fan-hood of ARR does have its few points of discord. One 
 recent one had meet my utter condemnation of Chiggy-wiggy.
 
 Since then, it has not even a full year, and ARR has given us Kata Kata.
 
 And Kata Kata has:
 --
 Chhoto koi devar hoy to chhaati laagiye
 (if there is any younger brother of the husband, keep him close to 
 your heart like your own son)
 
 Aur saas sasur ke aadar keeje paanye laagiye e e e
 (and pay respect to father and mother of the husband, touch their feet)
 
 Re jaith jaithani samjhaave to maathe raakhije re
 (if elder brother of husband and his wife teaches something, etch that 
 in your mind)
 
 Aur nandan ki saheli jaisi saath raakhiye re, o chori sun, saath
 raakhijo ra
 (and keep the sisters of husband with you like your friends,
 listen, o girl, keep them with you)
 --
 
 A complete contrast the above has with chiggy-wiggy.
 
 Chiggy-wiggy was demeaning women, presenting them as brainless objects 
 to be won over by cheap, streetsmart tactics of males for their 
 pleasure, all this going contrary to the things that ARR stands for.
 
 Kata Kata has suggetions/ instructions/ tips/ prompts that every 
 Indian mother tells her Indian daughter on wedding when the daughter 
 goes to a new home for the first time - the home of her husband. It is 
 holding the key how to keep the family together, instead of breaking 
 the bonds and snatching the husband from him family and establishing a 
 personal home for herself.
 
 I can feel every Indian buzurg (elder men and women) nodding their 
 head in deep-felt approval on hearing it. It is nothing new, they 
 themselves have been told the same at their own wedding, and they 
 themselves have told the same to their sons and daughters at their 
 weddings. It is pure indianness.
 
 And it covers so many aspects of Indian marriages that it is like an 
 audio-visual summary of what all happens in Indian marriages. groom's 
 male friends are teasing the groom, calling him a goat getting 
 sacrificed, brides' female friends are teasing the groom giving him 
 funde to do physical exercise to build his body, ladies of the 
 bride's family are listing the great qualities of their daughter (paro 
 se bhi halki hai) while males of groom's side teasing their bhabhi 
 (khatti hai), ladies of bride's family are pleading to the groom to 
 safeguard and treat the bride with respect (bohari lagaiyyo na), 
 pandit ji is having his priorities kanya ko bulaao, muhurt nikla ja 
 raha hai, ladies of bride's family are abusing and mocking the groom 
 calling him of black complexion by negation, comparing him to crow, in 
 hindi belt there is a reallife ceremony called gali dena (abusing) 
 when ladies of bride's family do use demeaning words in songs to mock 
 at groom and his family.
 
 Kudos to ARR and Gulzar saab for creating a song that is going to be 
 National Matrimonial Anthem. It is going to be played at every 
 marriage hundreds of times, and why not, it have elements for every 
 occasion in an Indian marriage.
 
 This song is what ARR himself personifies unlike chiggy-wiggy. ARR 
 will be proud to be the creator of this song unlike chiggy-wiggy.
 
 Hope comparing Kata Kata with chiggy-wiggy will make the contrast 
 clear to you.
 
 Kata Kata redeems Indian values that were inadvertently cheapened by 
 Chiggy-Wiggy
 --
 
 Related issue:
 
 
 I wonder what is in the song that Narendra Modi disapproved for 
 Gujarat. Kata Kata shows that ARR has all the capabilities to come 
 with a song full of Indianness, so ARR could come with a song full of 
 Gujarat-ness. Even Kata Kata itself represents gujarat wedding like 
 any Indian wedding. Instead of outright rejecting a song, they should 
 have told ARR individual elements that they approve and disapprove of 
 in the song, and let him modify according to the feedback. It would 
 have culminated into a great song for Gujarat and a treat for music 
 lovers. Sad that Narendra Modi acted so high-handedly.
 
 --
 Rawat





[arr] Re: Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread juliencristobal
Wow! A.R.Rahman, Sujatha, Hariharan, Madhushree, Sadhana Sargam, Benny Dayal, 
Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal, Udit Narayan, Sunidhi Chauhan and Karthik in the 
same album? Sounds too good to be true ;) I usually don't listen to telugu 
songs but I won't miss this one for anything
It seems the CD is releasing the first week of May!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ajay_baskar2...@... 
ajay_baskar2...@... wrote:

 1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
 2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
 3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
 4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah
 5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal. 
 6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
 7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha
 
 Source: chiranjeeviblog.com
 
 Sent from my Nokia phone





Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread ARRvind
Dear..
 
INDIAN is not by Mani Ratnam..! Its by Shankar!

--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com wrote:


From: Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 5:06 AM


  




I agree with first 4... Nothing can beat Thiruda Thiruda... not only songs, but 
the BG score too.
Another background score i'd cherish is Indian (esp, the end credits, if some 
one has please share).
I'd love to watch these movies in an iMax theatre.


On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:48 PM, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ 
gmail.com wrote:


  





1-  THIRUDA THIRUDA
2-  IRUVAR
3-  ROJA
4-  BOMBAY
5-  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
6-  ALAIPAYUTHE
7-  DIL SE
8-  GURU
9-  YUVA
10- RAAVAN 




-- 
www.berginroy. com








  

[arr] Jaa-Re-Ud-Jaa HD!!

2010-04-30 Thread dheepak narsimhan
Jaa-Re-Ud-Jaa-Re - High clarity video!!
Guess AR read our mails and released this on his own website :-) Hail AR!!

http://www.arrahman.com/v2/raavan/raavanvideo.html




 With Regards,
Dheepak Narsimhan.S




Re: [arr] A R Rahman Library Gallery in Video ( Part 1 2 ) youtube

2010-04-30 Thread Thulasi Ram
hey Santosh. great work. keep it up. don't bother that u didn't win the
contest as u probably know the competition (dosa selling) was utter stupid
way to pick a winner to meet ARR. ur efforts are undoubtedly great when
compared to others in the competition. u r the real winner.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Santosh Pandey skpandey...@ymail.comwrote:



 Hai Dear All My Rahmaniac ..

This Is Our A R Rahman Library  Gallery video ( Part 1
  2 ) as below in youtube ..

 In A R Rahman Library  Gallery there is Lots Information About Sir A R
 Rahman ( world Great Musician ) , Science , History, Sports, Great Indian
 Photo  Biography, Indian Cinema  World Cinema,Novel , Basic General
 Knowledge for Students, Management book, Musical book , Comic , computer
 book etc.. many More type of book . Pls All Rahmaniac in All Over Worlds
 come In Our A R Rahman Library  Gallery Make World Best Library  Gallery
 For Humantiy,Peace  Love in This World ..
  God Bless All..
   Jai..Ho..

Thanks  Regrads ,

 A R Rahman Library  Gallery ,

 SantoshKumar Pandey ( Librarian ).




 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9jX3Ki2SiE ( A R Rahman Library  Gallery
 ( Part 1 ) )


   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwGkudep7oc (  A R Rahman Library 
 Gallery ( Part 2 ) )

  



Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread shalivahan Phoebus
wow ... all the top class singers esp ARR, Udit,  Hari Haran, Sadhna ... lot of 
expectations. Its gng to Rockk. Double delight in this summer.

--- On Fri, 30/4/10, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in 
wrote:

From: ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: [arr] Puli Track List
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 30 April, 2010, 4:09 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj

2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam

3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha

4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah

5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal. 

6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik

7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha



Source: chiranjeeviblog. com



Sent from my Nokia phone




 





 



  












Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread Dinesh Scaran
Madhushree is singing a song in Puli !! YESSS!!! hahahaha... im 
so happy... cant wait... when is the audio releasing??

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Praveen Namburi quadth...@... wrote:

 Gr8 2hear tht. Eagerly waiting, do any 1 the audio release date?
 
 On Apr 30, 2010 10:52 AM, ajay_baskar2...@... 
 ajay_baskar2...@... wrote:
 
 
 
 1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
 2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
 3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
 4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah
 5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal.
 6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
 7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha
 
 Source: chiranjeeviblog.com
 
 Sent from my Nokia phone





[arr] Follow ARR on twitter/BH

2010-04-30 Thread Thulasi Ram
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/celebrities/celebrity_twitter.php

BH is just linking ARRs facebook wall page to their GUI


Re: [arr] Hearty Congrats to DEEPAK PA for Receiving Grammy for Slumdog Millionaire

2010-04-30 Thread A.R.Rajib
Congrats to Late Sridhar Hariharan  Deepak P.A For the Grammys !!!

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lets join hands in Congratulating Sound Engineer Deepak PalliKonda on
 him receiving Grammy for Slumdog Millionaire

 Jai Ho Deepak.
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Re: [arr] 2010 - remarkable coincidence

2010-04-30 Thread Thulasi Ram
add puli to it!

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:27 PM, vijay_anand_mit elexvi...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Hello everyone,

 This year 2010, Raavan is released which Manirathnam-AR's 10th tamil
 film.[11th film, if Yuva is included]
 Similarly, Endhiran is expected to release in this year, which is Shankar's
 10th film.[9th film in Shankar-AR combo].

 I feel this is a remarkable coincidence, and 2010 is going to be feast for
 Rahmaniacs. Already Vinnaithandi Varuvaya and Raavan is rocking.
 I also dont have patience for Raavana(tamil), Endhiran like fellow
 Rahmaniacs.

 -Vijay Anand

  



Re: [arr] Best compliments 'Ranjha Ranjha' song will ever get - by an Auusie

2010-04-30 Thread Thulasi Ram
i love ur personal experiences related to ARR. keep sharing

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:12 AM, pravindersheoran 
pravindersheo...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 Hi All,

 An old lady (Australian, 45-50 years old) from my work place in Sydney
 listened Ranjha Ranjha because I had played it a bit loud at closing time.
 This is what she said about it:

 Son, I don't know what the hell they singing about, but those beats have
 stirred my soul. I feel like bleesed.

 Of course I had to tell her its new album from the compopser of Slumdog.

 Pravinder.

  



Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread vimaljk
YES!...three singers i've longed to hear in an ARR album for awhileL

Vijay Yesudas (son of the greatest Indian playback singer imo), Sujatha (hasn't 
sung for ARR since New (i think), and Sunidhi Chauhan (has sung 1-2 songs but i 
wanna see ARR use her voice as well as MM Kreem did in Sur)

i think this will be a great album!...always great to see ARR, Benny, and 
Karthik singing!

when can we expect the audio??

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Subramaniam karthiksubbus...@... 
wrote:

 Cool. Looks like it will be a fun album with lots of catchy numbers and a
 couple of melodies. Look forward to it.
 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:39 AM, ajay_baskar2...@... 
 ajay_baskar2...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
  2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
  3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
  4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah
  5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal.
  6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
  7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha
 
  Source: chiranjeeviblog.com
 
  Sent from my Nokia phone
  
 





[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album.........

2010-04-30 Thread Yogesh

I agree with you Chord..
But you missed 'water'..:-(

He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
these days..]
Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of 'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] 
and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were folk based.


Regards
Yogesh


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, rustic, 
 and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and Lagaan are 
 examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the early 1990s by 
 Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani melodies in a folk 
 backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
 
 Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no western 
 beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian music with 
 tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis, harmoniums, 
 strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album with traditional 
 Indian instruments.  
 
 Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
 placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please 
 don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were based on 
 period/history films.
 
 The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this type of 
 music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type of music 
 alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects, minimalist 
 instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. a Naushadish 
 type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.
 
 This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s Rahman or 
 making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
 
 Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.





[arr] Re: Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread Liku
great Pair singer selection Karthik, Sadhna Sargam, Naresh Iyer, Shreya 
Ghoshal,Hariharan, Sujatha...Wow..

so.. Happy to see Sujatha's name in track list after a long 
timeHariharan, Sujatha pair will rock


by
Liku

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ajay_baskar2...@... 
ajay_baskar2...@... wrote:

 1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
 2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
 3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
 4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah
 5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal. 
 6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
 7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha
 
 Source: chiranjeeviblog.com
 
 Sent from my Nokia phone





Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread shiraz shira
Ho...Awsome news.

On Thu Apr 29th, 2010 10:29 PM PDT Praveen Namburi wrote:

Gr8 2hear tht. Eagerly waiting, do any 1 the audio release date?

On Apr 30, 2010 10:52 AM, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in 
ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah
5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal.
6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha

Source: chiranjeeviblog.com

Sent from my Nokia phone
 



  


[arr] what is Kaashuni/ kaashuni (Re: Kata Kata lyrics and translation)

2010-04-30 Thread V S Rawat
On 4/27/2010 2:14 AM India Time, _V S Rawat_ wrote:

 Kata kata bechara bakra, kata kata bechara


 Re rang tharo kaashuni oope rang chadhave na
 (your complexion is black???, no color can be dyed on that)

could someone please give the meaning of that word Kaashuni/ kaashuni. 
I have never heard that term.

 Tu na kalo na tu kaga kankar maare kaun abhaga, oonhe koi darrawe na
 (you are neither black, nor are you a crow, who is pelting stone, poor
 guy, no one should make him afraid)

--
Rawat


[arr] Re: Kata Kata redeems Indian values cheapened by Chiggy-Wiggy

2010-04-30 Thread Yogesh

Very well written Rawat..:-)

Regards
Yogesh

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 18 years fan-hood of ARR does have its few points of discord. One 
 recent one had meet my utter condemnation of Chiggy-wiggy.
 
 Since then, it has not even a full year, and ARR has given us Kata Kata.
 
 And Kata Kata has:
 --
 Chhoto koi devar hoy to chhaati laagiye
 (if there is any younger brother of the husband, keep him close to 
 your heart like your own son)
 
 Aur saas sasur ke aadar keeje paanye laagiye e e e
 (and pay respect to father and mother of the husband, touch their feet)
 
 Re jaith jaithani samjhaave to maathe raakhije re
 (if elder brother of husband and his wife teaches something, etch that 
 in your mind)
 
 Aur nandan ki saheli jaisi saath raakhiye re, o chori sun, saath
 raakhijo ra
 (and keep the sisters of husband with you like your friends,
 listen, o girl, keep them with you)
 --
 
 A complete contrast the above has with chiggy-wiggy.
 
 Chiggy-wiggy was demeaning women, presenting them as brainless objects 
 to be won over by cheap, streetsmart tactics of males for their 
 pleasure, all this going contrary to the things that ARR stands for.
 
 Kata Kata has suggetions/ instructions/ tips/ prompts that every 
 Indian mother tells her Indian daughter on wedding when the daughter 
 goes to a new home for the first time - the home of her husband. It is 
 holding the key how to keep the family together, instead of breaking 
 the bonds and snatching the husband from him family and establishing a 
 personal home for herself.
 
 I can feel every Indian buzurg (elder men and women) nodding their 
 head in deep-felt approval on hearing it. It is nothing new, they 
 themselves have been told the same at their own wedding, and they 
 themselves have told the same to their sons and daughters at their 
 weddings. It is pure indianness.
 
 And it covers so many aspects of Indian marriages that it is like an 
 audio-visual summary of what all happens in Indian marriages. groom's 
 male friends are teasing the groom, calling him a goat getting 
 sacrificed, brides' female friends are teasing the groom giving him 
 funde to do physical exercise to build his body, ladies of the 
 bride's family are listing the great qualities of their daughter (paro 
 se bhi halki hai) while males of groom's side teasing their bhabhi 
 (khatti hai), ladies of bride's family are pleading to the groom to 
 safeguard and treat the bride with respect (bohari lagaiyyo na), 
 pandit ji is having his priorities kanya ko bulaao, muhurt nikla ja 
 raha hai, ladies of bride's family are abusing and mocking the groom 
 calling him of black complexion by negation, comparing him to crow, in 
 hindi belt there is a reallife ceremony called gali dena (abusing) 
 when ladies of bride's family do use demeaning words in songs to mock 
 at groom and his family.
 
 Kudos to ARR and Gulzar saab for creating a song that is going to be 
 National Matrimonial Anthem. It is going to be played at every 
 marriage hundreds of times, and why not, it have elements for every 
 occasion in an Indian marriage.
 
 This song is what ARR himself personifies unlike chiggy-wiggy. ARR 
 will be proud to be the creator of this song unlike chiggy-wiggy.
 
 Hope comparing Kata Kata with chiggy-wiggy will make the contrast 
 clear to you.
 
 Kata Kata redeems Indian values that were inadvertently cheapened by 
 Chiggy-Wiggy
 --
 
 Related issue:
 
 
 I wonder what is in the song that Narendra Modi disapproved for 
 Gujarat. Kata Kata shows that ARR has all the capabilities to come 
 with a song full of Indianness, so ARR could come with a song full of 
 Gujarat-ness. Even Kata Kata itself represents gujarat wedding like 
 any Indian wedding. Instead of outright rejecting a song, they should 
 have told ARR individual elements that they approve and disapprove of 
 in the song, and let him modify according to the feedback. It would 
 have culminated into a great song for Gujarat and a treat for music 
 lovers. Sad that Narendra Modi acted so high-handedly.
 
 --
 Rawat





Re: [arr] Jai Ho Concert - Washington DC - June 13 - Please join

2010-04-30 Thread Bergin Roy
Anish,

Have you booked the tickets?
Anybody else planning to go for the concert at Patriot center, VA?

Cheers,
Bergin

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com wrote:

 Great Anish, where do you live?
 I live in Herndon VA.

 email me your contact to bergin...@gmail.com

 Cheers
 Bergin


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Anish Gupte musimax2...@gmail.comwrote:



 Hi!!
 Yes I definitely want to attend the concert. Glad thers one in this area!!

 Anish.


 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com wrote:



 Folks,

 Those planning to go for the concert in Washington DC (Patriot Center,
 Fairfax), please respond to this msg.
 We'll try to get together.

 Cheers,
 Bergin


  




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Re: [arr] I plan on doubling the Raavan pleasure......

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
I think I will mix them up toothanks!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Subramaniam karthiksubbus...@... 
wrote:

 I would recommend mixing them up
 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  When the Tamil tracks release, I'm going to create a CD with both the Hindi
  and Tamil tracks situated together..heck, if the CD itself is so short,
  I might as well double the length with the Tamil tracks and have double the
  pleasure in one go!!!
 
  I'm wondering if I should place the Tamil songs right after the
  corresponding Hindi ones (example, Beera immediately followed by Veera), or
  just mix them up all together...h.
 
  
 





[arr] Re: I plan on doubling the Raavan pleasure......

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
Sure, why not!!!  :)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kranthichand 
raulowenmessi_strik...@... wrote:

 
 
 Why not triple it up with the Telugu version too ???





[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album.........

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
I agree Dinesh...you have some great ideas...non film albums under KM musiq 
once per year.that would rule!  But, ARR seems to be quite busy..

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, DineshVaidya dnshvai...@... wrote:

 It was my wish too and I had made similar request posting quite a few years 
 back. Almost 6 months after my posting (ofcourse ) coincidently CONNECTIONS 
 happened and that confirmed my belief that Rahman is at his best when he has 
 to compose score to abstract thoughts and without any fixed limitations of 
 situation / words etc etc.
 
 In all his NON film albums, CONNECTIONS stands out for its purity, classical 
 / fusion / folk base and I feel, Rahman should make atleast ONE album on his 
 own through KM MUSIQ per year. And let that not be a complete album, let it 
 be combination of efforts with some new talent, and few compositions from ARR.
 
 ARR is supremely talented and knows no boundries to experiment on sound and 
 compositions ..  and his best will certainly come through non-film 
 albums.. that's my opinion.
 
 Best regards
 Dinesh Vaidya
 Pune
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
  Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, rustic, 
  and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and Lagaan are 
  examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the early 1990s 
  by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani melodies in a 
  folk backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
  
  Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no 
  western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian 
  music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis, 
  harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album 
  with traditional Indian instruments.  
  
  Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
  placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please 
  don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were based 
  on period/history films.
  
  The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this type of 
  music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type of music 
  alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects, minimalist 
  instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. a 
  Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.
  
  This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s Rahman or 
  making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
  
  Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.
 





Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread Prashanth cool
wat abt LAGAAN , MINSARA KANAVU,DUET,GENTLEMAN,RANGEELA,KADHALAN,VANDE
MATHARAM man


[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album.........

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
After I wrote this post, I came to thinking that Jodha Akbar was very close to 
what I was mentioning below, which is why I was so ecstatic and thrilled when 
that album released.

I guesss what I really want is a more Rajasthani folk based album with ARR 
using raagas Megh, Malhar, and Sarang as the basis for some beautiful melodies 
(he last used raaga Megh for Paigham in Lakeer, Wind in Rhythm).  I'm so happy 
that Kata has some Rajasthani folk base.sounds so amazing!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, rustic, 
 and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and Lagaan are 
 examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the early 1990s by 
 Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani melodies in a folk 
 backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
 
 Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no western 
 beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian music with 
 tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis, harmoniums, 
 strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album with traditional 
 Indian instruments.  
 
 Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
 placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please 
 don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were based on 
 period/history films.
 
 The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this type of 
 music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type of music 
 alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects, minimalist 
 instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. a Naushadish 
 type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.
 
 This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s Rahman or 
 making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
 
 Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.





[arr] ARR-Straight from heart

2010-04-30 Thread bibin philip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2FCf2opeofeature=related



Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread Taimur Nadeem
its tough tough tough, ok here i go 
 
THIRUDA THIRUDA ( Year 3010 Thiruda Thiruda will still be the best, 
its pinnacle of world music )
DIL SE   ( Earths equilibrium can be disturbed by its music)
ALAIPAYUTHE   ( A DIVINE album)
ROJA( came ,saw, conquered)
BOMBAY  ( Even the greatest musical genius cant make a song 
like kehna hi kya , see yourself than what really is the status of  A R RAHMAN )
YUVA   ( Yuva rocks always)
KANNATHIL MUTHMATHIL
IRUVAR
GURU
RAAVAN
 
regards,
 
taimur
--- On Fri, 4/30/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com wrote:


From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 2:48 AM


  





1-  THIRUDA THIRUDA
2-  IRUVAR
3-  ROJA
4-  BOMBAY
5-  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
6-  ALAIPAYUTHE
7-  DIL SE
8-  GURU
9-  YUVA
10- RAAVAN 







  

[arr] Re: Time for some ratings ?

2010-04-30 Thread Yogesh

Here it goes for me--

1.Khile Re
2.Behne De
3.Ranjha Ranjha
4.Beera
5.Kata kata
6.Thok de killi

Regards
Yogesh

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shalivahan Phoebus shali.rah...@... 
wrote:

 Ranjha Ranjha grew on me lately but i am very lucky that it grew on me 
 atlast. 
 1. Thok de killi2.Ranjha Ranjha3. Behne De
 4. Beera
 5. Kata Kata
 6. Khili Re
 
 --- On Thu, 29/4/10, pravindersheoran pravindersheo...@... wrote:
 
 From: pravindersheoran pravindersheo...@...
 Subject: [arr] Re: Time for some ratings ?
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, 29 April, 2010, 7:53 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   1. Thok de killi
 2. Beera
 3. Kata Kata
 4. Behne De
 5. Ranjha Ranjha
 6. Khili Re
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, anvesh anveshreddyj@ ... wrote:
 
 
 
  Started with
 
  
 
  1) Beera, Kata Kata
 
  2) Ranjha Ranjha, Behne De
 
  3) Kili Re, Thok De Khilli
 
  
 
  Now its,
 
  
 
  1) Behne De
 
  2) Ranjha Ranjha, Beera
 
  3) Kata Kata
 
  4) Kili Re
 
  5) Thok de Khilli
 
  
 
  If someone asks why Raavan ?, apart from the obvious ARR its got to be
 
  Karthik and Rekha Bharadwaj. What singing!!
 
  Kili Re might go right to the top in tamil/telugu if Shreya Ghoshal is
 
  singing.Simply love her voice.
 
 





[arr] A.R. Rahman, Tyrewala visit Pedda Dargah

2010-04-30 Thread raamkumar vaidyanathan
  A.R. Rahman, Tyrewala visit Pedda Dargah 
   Baiju NT [April 30, 2010, 3:08:04 PM]
Oscar winning music director A.R. Rahman, his family members and director Abbas 
Tyrewala visited Ameen Peer Dargah, known as Pedda Dargah, in Kadapa in the 
early hours of Thursday. The Rahman family visited the Dargah at 2.45 a.m., 
during the Gandham festival in the Urs-e-Shareef in the Dargah.Oscar winning 
music director A.R. Rahman, his family members and director Abbas Tyrewala 
visited Ameen Peer Dargah, known as Pedda Dargah, in Kadapa in the early hours 
of Thursday. The Rahman family visited the Dargah at 2.45 a.m., during the 
Gandham festival in the Urs-e-Shareef in the Dargah.Sajjad-e-Nasheen Hazrath 
Khwaja Syed Sha Arifullah Hussaini Mohammad Mohammed-ul Hussaini 
Chisti-ul-Khadri took them round the dargah and blessed them. Gandham was 
brought from the Sajjad-e-Nasheen's house amidst drumbeats and feats by a host 
of fakirs. He led the Malang Sha to the altar, where the latter took up a 
ceremonial fast.
Sajjad-e-Nasheen Hazrath Khwaja Syed Sha Arifullah Hussaini Mohammad 
Mohammed-ul Hussaini Chisti-ul-Khadri took them round the dargah and blessed 
them. Gandham was brought from the Sajjad-e-Nasheen's house amidst drumbeats 
and feats by a host of fakirs. He led the Malang Sha to the altar, where the 
latter took up a ceremonial fast.


Regards, Ram..       ~  Rαнмαη αddicт™  ~



[arr] Raavan - Jaa-re-ud-jaare release video

2010-04-30 Thread Valan
@ http://www.arrahman.com/v2/raavan/raavanvideo.html


-- 
Thanks  Regards
Valan


Re: [arr] Hearty Congrats to DEEPAK PA for Receiving Grammy for Slumdog Millionaire

2010-04-30 Thread kay kay
Congrats Deepak :)

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:



 Lets join hands in Congratulating Sound Engineer Deepak PalliKonda on
 him receiving Grammy for Slumdog Millionaire

 Jai Ho Deepak.
 --
 regards,
 Vithur
 




-- 
Cheers,
Kay Kay

www.kaykayphotography.com


Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread haja nawaz
1 -  THIRUDA THIRUDA
2 - DIL SE
3 -  BOMBAY
4 -  ROJA
5 -  ALAIPAYUTHE
6 -  IRUVAR
7 -  RAAVAN
8 - GURU
9 - YUVA
10 - KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL


 Thanks 
Nawaz






From: s_sundarr_2000 s_sundarr_2...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 8:51:35 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

  
1 -  THIRUDA THIRUDA
2 -  ROJA
3 -  DIL SE
4 -  BOMBAY
5 -  ALAIPAYUTHE
6 -  IRUVAR
7 -  GURU
8 -  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
9 -  YUVA
10-  RAAVAN

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ ... 
wrote:

 1-  THIRUDA THIRUDA
 2-  IRUVAR
 3-  ROJA
 4-  BOMBAY
 5-  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
 6-  ALAIPAYUTHE
 7-  DIL SE
 8-  GURU
 9-  YUVA
 10- RAAVAN



 



[arr] Raavan - new trailer

2010-04-30 Thread vinodraju2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMqeO9gxcQ





Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread Gopal Srinivasan
The tracklist is not genuine.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 01:29, Praveen Namburi quadth...@gmail.com wrote:



 Gr8 2hear tht. Eagerly waiting, do any 1 the audio release date?

 On Apr 30, 2010 10:52 AM, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in 
 ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
 2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
 3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
 4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah
 5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal.
 6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
 7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha

 Source: chiranjeeviblog.com

 Sent from my Nokia phone



 


Re: [arr] Re: Time for some ratings ?

2010-04-30 Thread anvesh
Interesting two have Thok De Killi right at the top and two have right at
the bottom.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Yogesh yogesh2...@yahoo.in wrote:




 Here it goes for me--

 1.Khile Re
 2.Behne De
 3.Ranjha Ranjha
 4.Beera
 5.Kata kata
 6.Thok de killi

 Regards
 Yogesh

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 shalivahan Phoebus shali.rah...@... wrote:
 
  Ranjha Ranjha grew on me lately but i am very lucky that it grew on me
 atlast.Â
  1. Thok de killi2.Ranjha Ranjha3. Behne De

  4. Beera
  5. Kata Kata
  6. Khili Re
 
  --- On Thu, 29/4/10, pravindersheoran pravindersheo...@... wrote:
 
  From: pravindersheoran pravindersheo...@...

  Subject: [arr] Re: Time for some ratings ?
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, 29 April, 2010, 7:53 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1. Thok de killi
  2. Beera
  3. Kata Kata
  4. Behne De
  5. Ranjha Ranjha
  6. Khili Re
 
 
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, anvesh anveshreddyj@ ... wrote:
 
  
 
   Started with
 
  
 
   1) Beera, Kata Kata
 
   2) Ranjha Ranjha, Behne De
 
   3) Kili Re, Thok De Khilli
 
  
 
   Now its,
 
  
 
   1) Behne De
 
   2) Ranjha Ranjha, Beera
 
   3) Kata Kata
 
   4) Kili Re
 
   5) Thok de Khilli
 
  
 
   If someone asks why Raavan ?, apart from the obvious ARR its got to be
 
   Karthik and Rekha Bharadwaj. What singing!!
 
   Kili Re might go right to the top in tamil/telugu if Shreya Ghoshal is
 
   singing.Simply love her voice.
 
  
 

  



Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread anvesh
I thought so

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote:



 The tracklist is not genuine.

 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 01:29, Praveen Namburi quadth...@gmail.comwrote:



 Gr8 2hear tht. Eagerly waiting, do any 1 the audio release date?

 On Apr 30, 2010 10:52 AM, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in 
 ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in wrote:



 1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj
 2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam
 3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha
 4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi
 Shah
 5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal.
 6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik
 7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha

 Source: chiranjeeviblog.com

 Sent from my Nokia phone




  



[arr] Raavanan audio on May 5

2010-04-30 Thread yeshrao81
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14940190

On May 5 Sony Music will launch straight into the southern market, the audio of 
Mani Ratnam's Raavanan. Sources have confirmed that there will be no formal 
audio launch.

The reasons given out are the non-availability of the stars mainly AR Rahman 
and Mani Ratnam. The director is busy giving the final polish to the film which 
he plans to screen outside of the festival at Cannes.

However Big Pictures and Sony Music are planning to hold a promotional press 
meet for Tamil Raavanan at a later date.



[arr] Puli expectations are low for me - yours??

2010-04-30 Thread yeshrao81
These are only my thoughts...I am really not thrilled for Puli album. It could 
by all means turn out to be a great album since it features our ARRs music. 
However, after the huge releases and successes of Gautam-ARR and Mani-ARR 
albums, SJ Surya-ARR combination excites me less. This could be for the 
following reasons:

1. Having tastes Raavan and VTV from 2 of best music extracting directors, I 
have a doubt whether SJ would have surpassed these 2 (no doubt in ARR 
whatsoever)

2. The interest in movie is frankly low - SJ story/subject could be off track, 
which keeps us fans away from watching the movie with family

3. The other aspect is the scope for music in a commercial subject - like AJ 
was mentioning, we need earthy, accoustic, rustic, original and soul stirring 
tracks - which I have a feeling will not make its way in this kind of a film

4. Little to prove from ARR - Having enthralled the world with Oscars,Grammy 
etc... ARR has little to prove musically. That could at times mean he can take 
some liberty to experiment (and gauge the pulse of his fans for things to 
follow). This film could be his chance to experiment, and we might in the 
process not be in familiar territory, resulting in the music getting less 
accepted...(However musically they may still be superior). Don't we always want 
ARRs vintage interludes, killer rythms and innovative use of instruments that 
we are used to?

For all I know, ARR is a person who takes challenges like these and turns them 
into stunning albums. 

So I am still optimistic...but expectations are low...How about yours?



[arr] Awesome new trailer of Raavan!!!

2010-04-30 Thread Vishal
I'm loving the BGM of the teaser. All the Raavan haters can stop it now. 
Aishwarya looks too good. Looking forward to the performances! Mani Ratnam is 
THE MAN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrGNP5QsJJ8





[arr] mani -arr best

2010-04-30 Thread sanjeevan premarajan
 1.roja
2.t.thiruda
3.iruvar
4.k.muttam
5.yuva by sanjee



 



  






  

Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread yeshrao81
Almost everyone other than me have Raavan in the last place of ARR-Mani 
albums...Does it not beat atleast Yuva? Does it indicate we get more nostalgic 
about past albums and whatever releases last, goes to the last of the list??

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote:

 its tough tough tough, ok here i go 
  
 THIRUDA THIRUDA ( Year 3010 Thiruda Thiruda will still be the best, 
 its pinnacle of world music )
 DIL SE                   ( Earths equilibrium can be 
 disturbed by its music)
 ALAIPAYUTHE       ( A DIVINE album)
 ROJA                    ( came ,saw, conquered)
 BOMBAY              ( Even the greatest musical genius cant 
 make a song like kehna hi kya , see yourself than what really is the 
 status of  A R RAHMAN )
 YUVA                   ( Yuva rocks always)
 KANNATHIL MUTHMATHIL
 IRUVAR
 GURU
 RAAVAN
  
 regards,
  
 taimur
 --- On Fri, 4/30/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@...
 Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 2:48 AM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 1-  THIRUDA THIRUDA
 2-  IRUVAR
 3-  ROJA
 4-  BOMBAY
 5-  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
 6-  ALAIPAYUTHE
 7-  DIL SE
 8-  GURU
 9-  YUVA
 10- RAAVAN





[arr] Maniratnam's next Azaan?

2010-04-30 Thread Aakarsh
Hi! Friends,

This article says that Santosh Sivan is gearing up to shoot Maniratnam's next 
film with Ranbir Kapoor - Azaan.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/I-cant-say-no-to-Mani-Ratnam-Santosh/articleshow/5875669.cms

Any idea if this news is true? And will it be ARR-Gulzar again?

Regards
Aakarsh
     
    


  

[arr] Re: Puli expectations are low for me - yours??

2010-04-30 Thread vimaljk

Expectations are highchance for Rahman to have his first success in a 
straight Telugu movie (Super Police and Gang Master were weak imo).also New 
and Ah Aah were good albums (barring a song or two) also...not everyone is 
looking for rustic/soul stirring tracksI for one like to see Rahman don 
different capsi like his dance tracks to the same degree that I like his 
slower onesam sure Puli will be a terrific listen!


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote:

 These are only my thoughts...I am really not thrilled for Puli album. It 
 could by all means turn out to be a great album since it features our ARRs 
 music. However, after the huge releases and successes of Gautam-ARR and 
 Mani-ARR albums, SJ Surya-ARR combination excites me less. This could be for 
 the following reasons:
 
 1. Having tastes Raavan and VTV from 2 of best music extracting directors, I 
 have a doubt whether SJ would have surpassed these 2 (no doubt in ARR 
 whatsoever)
 
 2. The interest in movie is frankly low - SJ story/subject could be off 
 track, which keeps us fans away from watching the movie with family
 
 3. The other aspect is the scope for music in a commercial subject - like AJ 
 was mentioning, we need earthy, accoustic, rustic, original and soul stirring 
 tracks - which I have a feeling will not make its way in this kind of a film
 
 4. Little to prove from ARR - Having enthralled the world with Oscars,Grammy 
 etc... ARR has little to prove musically. That could at times mean he can 
 take some liberty to experiment (and gauge the pulse of his fans for things 
 to follow). This film could be his chance to experiment, and we might in the 
 process not be in familiar territory, resulting in the music getting less 
 accepted...(However musically they may still be superior). Don't we always 
 want ARRs vintage interludes, killer rythms and innovative use of instruments 
 that we are used to?
 
 For all I know, ARR is a person who takes challenges like these and turns 
 them into stunning albums. 
 
 So I am still optimistic...but expectations are low...How about yours?





Re: [arr] Awesome new trailer of Raavan!!!

2010-04-30 Thread Indmov Buff


!!!

Could someone please translate what's being said? pretty please. 



From: Vishal vishalredd...@yahoo.in
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 14:03:10
Subject: [arr] Awesome new trailer of Raavan!!!

  
I'm loving the BGM of the teaser. All the Raavan haters can stop it now. 
Aishwarya looks too good. Looking forward to the performances! Mani Ratnam is 
THE MAN! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=YrGNP5QsJJ8


 


  

Re: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5

2010-04-30 Thread Indmov Buff
I hope this isn't true. If it is, I am disappointed. Not that it will be on the 
5th but that there won't be a formal launch. Hardly any promos as well. What 
makes Raavanan different from Raavan? Why is Raavanan being given the step 
motherly treatment ? It has Vikram, Prithviraj, Aishwarya, Maniratnam and 
Rahman - these names are Huge in the South. 




From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 14:21:34
Subject: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5

  
http://sify. com/movies/ tamil/fullstory. php?id=14940190

On May 5 Sony Music will launch straight into the southern market, the audio of 
Mani Ratnam's Raavanan. Sources have confirmed that there will be no formal 
audio launch.

The reasons given out are the non-availability of the stars mainly AR Rahman 
and Mani Ratnam. The director is busy giving the final polish to the film which 
he plans to screen outside of the festival at Cannes.

However Big Pictures and Sony Music are planning to hold a promotional press 
meet for Tamil Raavanan at a later date.


 


  

Re: [arr] I plan on doubling the Raavan pleasure......

2010-04-30 Thread Chweetu24
any idea when the tamil version will be released? Dying to listen to the magic 
of Vairamuthu!!! rmbr his amazing work in rediscovering Gulzar's magic in Dil 
Se so beautifully in Tamil

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 I think I will mix them up toothanks!
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Subramaniam karthiksubbuster@ 
 wrote:
 
  I would recommend mixing them up
  
  On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
  
  
  
   When the Tamil tracks release, I'm going to create a CD with both the 
   Hindi
   and Tamil tracks situated together..heck, if the CD itself is so 
   short,
   I might as well double the length with the Tamil tracks and have double 
   the
   pleasure in one go!!!
  
   I'm wondering if I should place the Tamil songs right after the
   corresponding Hindi ones (example, Beera immediately followed by Veera), 
   or
   just mix them up all together...h.
  
   
  
 





Re: [arr] Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

2010-04-30 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||
I think Dil Gira Dafatan's first interlude has it for few seconds...

Another very beautiful  rare instrument I heard in this album is Duduk... 
which comes at 00:08 in Thok De Killli... amazing instrument... listen to the 
Yanni's Love Is All from his Tribute concert  you'll know the hypnotic power 
of the Duduk...

 
 The search is more important than the destination 
- a r rahman -





From: manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 10:00:45 AM
Subject: [arr] Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

  
Loving how ARR Sir used this instrument so subtly in both Raavan and VTV. The 
Erhu is this two-string chinese instrument, played like a violin. I have loved 
the sound right from when I heard it in Golden Era (Warriors of Heaven and 
Earth) ...and just 3 months ago I got a Erhu concerto CD and have been addicted 
to the sound of that instrument. So I was so ecstatic when I heard it used in 
the BGM of Female Aaromale during the scene right before Manipaaya starts. And 
again was extremely happy to hear it being used in Killi Re from 3:11-3:21. 

Its just so subtle yet  beautiful... only ARR the wizard is brilliant enough to 
add these pinch of exotic instruments to create magic with each tune. 
If anybody knows other pieces in which this instrument has been used, do let me 
know! And i hope ARR Sir continues using it even more in the future :-)

 



[arr] Katakata

2010-04-30 Thread arr_raghu
Katakata is breathtaking..song rich in both melody and energy.
ARR has somehow mastered this exceptional skill of packing many 
elements, many emotions, many expressions all at once.




Re: [arr] I plan on doubling the Raavan pleasure......

2010-04-30 Thread Dinesh Scaran
if im not mistaken, some of the songs were recorded in Tamil first. I know the 
song Poongatrile was recorded in Tamil first. I remember reading an article 
where it says Gulzar was worried as he wonder if he could justify that song for 
the Hindi after listening to Vairamuthu's lyrics in Tamil.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chweetu24 sent_s...@... wrote:

 any idea when the tamil version will be released? Dying to listen to the 
 magic of Vairamuthu!!! rmbr his amazing work in rediscovering Gulzar's magic 
 in Dil Se so beautifully in Tamil
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
  I think I will mix them up toothanks!
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Subramaniam 
  karthiksubbuster@ wrote:
  
   I would recommend mixing them up
   
   On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
   
   
   
When the Tamil tracks release, I'm going to create a CD with both the 
Hindi
and Tamil tracks situated together..heck, if the CD itself is so 
short,
I might as well double the length with the Tamil tracks and have double 
the
pleasure in one go!!!
   
I'm wondering if I should place the Tamil songs right after the
corresponding Hindi ones (example, Beera immediately followed by 
Veera), or
just mix them up all together...h.
   

   
  
 





Re: [arr] Jaa-Re-Ud-Jaa HD!!

2010-04-30 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||
It's not HD... it's only 640x480... call it HQ if you want...

 
 The search is more important than the destination 
- a r rahman -





From: dheepak narsimhan arun_dhee...@yahoo.co.in
To: AR arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 12:01:57 PM
Subject: [arr] Jaa-Re-Ud-Jaa HD!!

  
Jaa-Re-Ud-Jaa- Re - High clarity video!!
Guess AR read our mails and released this on his own website :-) Hail AR!!

http://www.arrahman .com/v2/raavan/ raavanvideo. html




 With Regards,
Dheepak Narsimhan.S


 



Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread Dinesh Scaran
My ranking :

1.Thiruda Thiruda (Cant explain enough of the beauty of this album)
2.Iruvar (A score which surprised us all. Poo Koodiyin was a beautiful tribute 
to MSV and the 1960s music, Narumugaiye was magical and the brilliant Hello 
Mr.Ethirkatchi... wow...!!).
3.Alaipayuhey (Manasum Alai Paindethe...All the songs didnt create ripples, but 
it was a tsunami... Sneghidne and Pacchai Nirame r evergreen. Yaaro Yarodi was 
a new genre... Kadhal Sadugudu...my goodness... beautiful...)
4.Kannathil Muttamittal (an album which spells Quality in every corner of the 
songs. Vellai Pookal, Kannathil Muttamittal, and Vidai Koode engal Naade. The 
lyrics in Vellai Pookal... hmmm... it shows why Vairamuthu-ARR combo is 
unbeatable...) 
5.Roja (Pudhu Vellai Malai, Kadhal Rojave = sheer beauty...)
6.Aayitha Ezhutu (Yaakai Thiri, Sandha Kozhi kozhi, Hey goodbye nanba top 
class quality songs...)
7.Bombay (Kannalane, Uyire Uyire and the Theme music was the best.The rest was 
very passable, IMHO.)
8.Uyire/Dil Se (Uyire was a better album IMHO, Nenjinile was rendered 
beautifully by S.Janaki [listen to the way she finished the song, she's a 
legend!]. Thaiyya Thaiyya by Sriram had more energy and power in it. 
Poongatrile... Do i need to say it? Its just divine...the lyrics had a soul in 
it...)
9.Guru (Ay Hairathe and Tere Bina was beautiful not doubt .But the typical 
Mani-ARR magic was seen nowhere in this album except for the theme music track 
sung by ARR and Chitra.)

Yet to listen to Raavanan, as it is not released. Not interested in Raavan as i 
always give preference to Mani-ARR-Vairamuthu combo. Nothing beats this combo 
in India. So ill give the respect for it and wait for Raavanan.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote:

 its tough tough tough, ok here i go 
  
 THIRUDA THIRUDA ( Year 3010 Thiruda Thiruda will still be the best, 
 its pinnacle of world music )
 DIL SE                   ( Earths equilibrium can be 
 disturbed by its music)
 ALAIPAYUTHE       ( A DIVINE album)
 ROJA                    ( came ,saw, conquered)
 BOMBAY              ( Even the greatest musical genius cant 
 make a song like kehna hi kya , see yourself than what really is the 
 status of  A R RAHMAN )
 YUVA                   ( Yuva rocks always)
 KANNATHIL MUTHMATHIL
 IRUVAR
 GURU
 RAAVAN
  
 regards,
  
 taimur
 --- On Fri, 4/30/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@...
 Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 2:48 AM
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 1-  THIRUDA THIRUDA
 2-  IRUVAR
 3-  ROJA
 4-  BOMBAY
 5-  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
 6-  ALAIPAYUTHE
 7-  DIL SE
 8-  GURU
 9-  YUVA
 10- RAAVAN





[arr] Food Distribution this Sunday - Celebration for Our brothers

2010-04-30 Thread Vithur
This Sunday, May 2nd, 2010 FD will be a dedication to our Brothers
Gomzy and Chord , who are celebrating their bdays.

Lets wish them a Very Happy Bday on Sunday

May God Bless them always..

Jai Ho


-- 
regards,
Vithur


[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album.........

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love Dor and 
Natarang too.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2...@... wrote:

 
 I agree with you Chord..
 But you missed 'water'..:-(
 
 He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
 to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
 Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
 these days..]
 Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of 
 'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were folk 
 based.
 
 
 Regards
 Yogesh
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
  Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, rustic, 
  and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and Lagaan are 
  examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the early 1990s 
  by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani melodies in a 
  folk backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
  
  Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no 
  western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian 
  music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis, 
  harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album 
  with traditional Indian instruments.  
  
  Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
  placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please 
  don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were based 
  on period/history films.
  
  The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this type of 
  music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type of music 
  alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects, minimalist 
  instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. a 
  Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.
  
  This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s Rahman or 
  making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
  
  Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.
 





Re: [arr] Re: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

2010-04-30 Thread Prasad Varma
Oh man! (Gomzy that was for you ;-) ) I am glad someone here noticed this and 
pointed it out.  Actually ever since WOHE, ARR has been smuggling a lot of 
subtle Chinese arrangements in his songs that need a decent pair of headphones 
and a keen sense of hearing to discern.

The first time I heard Chinese influences in AR's music was way back in Jeans 
in the intro of  Atisayam/Ajooba as the song was partly pictured at the Great 
Wall.

Raavan more than anything else makes a compelling argument to listen to AR's 
music on headphones. There are so many bells and whistles and Easter eggs 
scattered around that even a slight waver in our concentration makes them go 
unnoticed .

I think K.J.Singh and Deepak P.A deserve huge accolades for doing fantastic job 
on mixing of this album given the asynchronous  multi faceted nature of the 
album.  

It is also wonderful to see the majority of the reviewers giving some time to 
fully comprehend this complex (in terms of arrangements) s/track and raving 
about it.

Also one big round of applause for the anonymous ripper and Wired Beats for 
gifting us the Female version of Aromale and making it look like one cohesive 
piece. An awesome track and  on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to 
the multi-layered Behane de. Just show cases  our man's versatility! 

And thanks to Rawat too for doing  a great job with the the translations!

Wired Beats - Has the thought of rearranging Aromale ever crossed your mind or 
is it too challenging to attempt?

PV







From: manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 11:36:57 PM
Subject: [arr] Re: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

  
Sorry, actually i think its played more like a cello than a violin. Anyways, 
hope this is the right instrument.. .correct me if i'm way off. 




From: manisha madhavan manisha_madhavan@ yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 12:30:45 AM
Subject: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces


Loving how ARR Sir used this instrument so subtly in both Raavan and VTV. The 
Erhu is this two-string chinese instrument, played like a violin. I have loved 
the sound right from when I heard it in Golden Era (Warriors of Heaven and 
Earth) ...and just 3 months ago I got a Erhu concerto CD and have been addicted 
to the sound of that instrument. So I was so ecstatic when I heard it used in 
the BGM of Female Aaromale during the scene right before Manipaaya starts. And 
again was extremely happy to hear it being used in Killi Re from 3:11-3:21. 

Its just so subtle yet  beautiful... only ARR the wizard is brilliant enough to 
add these pinch of exotic instruments to create magic with each tune. 
If anybody knows other pieces in which this instrument has been used, do let me 
know! And i hope ARR Sir continues using it even more in the future :-)


 


  

Re: [arr] Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

2010-04-30 Thread Prabhu Rajagopal
Hi Manisha,

How interesting, thanks for this. I had no idea what the name of this
instrument is!
If I am not mistaken, the same instrument is used in

- *Tour of the villas *from Couples Retreat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWpe1TMrKOQ listen from *min. 1.14 *onwards
- *Tu Mera Hai *from Ada from *min. 3.12* onwards. I love the way ARR makes
the ending of the Erhu move on to the Banjo/Oud/Ukelele (not sure).. super!

Prabhu



On 30 April 2010 06:30, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Loving how ARR Sir used this instrument so subtly in both Raavan and VTV.
 The Erhu is this two-string chinese instrument, played like a violin. I have
 loved the sound right from when I heard it in Golden Era (Warriors of Heaven
 and Earth) ...and just 3 months ago I got a Erhu concerto CD and have been
 addicted to the sound of that instrument. So I was so ecstatic when I heard
 it used in the BGM of Female Aaromale during the scene right before
 Manipaaya starts. And again was extremely happy to hear it being used in
 Killi Re from 3:11-3:21.

 Its just so subtle yet  beautiful...only ARR the wizard is brilliant enough
 to add these pinch of exotic instruments to create magic with each tune.
 If anybody knows other pieces in which this instrument has been used, do
 let me know! And i hope ARR Sir continues using it even more in the future
 :-)

  



Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
Raavan is a week old and you guys are ranking it already???

Nostalgia has a HUGE influence on our perception of past music.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote:

 Almost everyone other than me have Raavan in the last place of ARR-Mani 
 albums...Does it not beat atleast Yuva? Does it indicate we get more 
 nostalgic about past albums and whatever releases last, goes to the last of 
 the list??
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nadeem@ wrote:
 
  its tough tough tough, ok here i go 
   
  THIRUDA THIRUDA ( Year 3010 Thiruda Thiruda will still be the best, 
  its pinnacle of world music )
  DIL SE                   ( Earths equilibrium can be 
  disturbed by its music)
  ALAIPAYUTHE       ( A DIVINE album)
  ROJA                    ( came ,saw, conquered)
  BOMBAY              ( Even the greatest musical genius cant 
  make a song like kehna hi kya , see yourself than what really is the 
  status of  A R RAHMAN )
  YUVA                   ( Yuva rocks always)
  KANNATHIL MUTHMATHIL
  IRUVAR
  GURU
  RAAVAN
   
  regards,
   
  taimur
  --- On Fri, 4/30/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote:
  
  
  From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@
  Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 2:48 AM
  
  
    
  
  
  
  
  
  1-  THIRUDA THIRUDA
  2-  IRUVAR
  3-  ROJA
  4-  BOMBAY
  5-  KANNATHIL MUTHAMITTAAL
  6-  ALAIPAYUTHE
  7-  DIL SE
  8-  GURU
  9-  YUVA
  10- RAAVAN
 





Re: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5

2010-04-30 Thread vimaljk
I completely agree.  Plus, Mani and Rahman hail from the Tamil film 
industry.Also, Vikram is a MUCH better actor that Abhishek (not saying that 
Abhi is bad but Vikram is probably one of the top 5 in the country)...this 
clearly reeks of one version being favored over the otheralso i find it 
offensive that the Hindi version is the only one being prepped to screen at 
Cannes.but it could be the decision of the producers (Reliance).

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote:

 I hope this isn't true. If it is, I am disappointed. Not that it will be on 
 the 5th but that there won't be a formal launch. Hardly any promos as well. 
 What makes Raavanan different from Raavan? Why is Raavanan being given the 
 step motherly treatment ? It has Vikram, Prithviraj, Aishwarya, Maniratnam 
 and Rahman - these names are Huge in the South. 
 
 
 
 
 From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@...
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 14:21:34
 Subject: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5
 
   
 http://sify. com/movies/ tamil/fullstory. php?id=14940190
 
 On May 5 Sony Music will launch straight into the southern market, the audio 
 of Mani Ratnam's Raavanan. Sources have confirmed that there will be no 
 formal audio launch.
 
 The reasons given out are the non-availability of the stars mainly AR Rahman 
 and Mani Ratnam. The director is busy giving the final polish to the film 
 which he plans to screen outside of the festival at Cannes.
 
 However Big Pictures and Sony Music are planning to hold a promotional press 
 meet for Tamil Raavanan at a later date.





[arr] Please vote for favorite song in Raavan

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
I created a poll in the polls section for Raavan favorite song.  I don't know 
how to display the URL link for that particular poll page.could someone 
please help me?  Previously, that specific URL could be found under page 
source, but no longer.  

Please participate in poll. You have to scroll down under Polls to find it.



[arr] Re: Awesome new trailer of Raavan!!!

2010-04-30 Thread pravindersheoran
Here is the translation of what's said in trailer:

At 0.15 Aishwarya screams, I will not go.

At 0.25 she says (with fear and anger in her voice), Who are you to kill me, I 
don't wanna die..

At 0.50 Abhishek's voice is heard in background [Voice Over], She is not dead 
yet, (and then he threatens) she will die in 14 hours

The song 'Beera Beera' continues in parts throughout the trailer.


Guys, I think too much has been revealed here, I don't like this kind of 
trailer. After all Mani Sir's film is coming after 3 years, it should be a 
surprise till we go to cinemas.

Cinematography is superb, first class.

Pravinder.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote:

 
 
 !!!
 
 Could someone please translate what's being said? pretty please. 
 
 
 
 From: Vishal vishalredd...@...
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 14:03:10
 Subject: [arr] Awesome new trailer of Raavan!!!
 
   
 I'm loving the BGM of the teaser. All the Raavan haters can stop it now. 
 Aishwarya looks too good. Looking forward to the performances! Mani Ratnam is 
 THE MAN! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=YrGNP5QsJJ8





[arr] Re: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
Awesome post, Prasad!  Completely agree!  The sound is incredible on this album 
and the minute details are evident everywhere.

So glad the Erhu instrument has been identified and pointed out...I too noticed 
it in Khili and female Aromale.just so beautiful!!!

Only ARR can do this...only ARR...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspva...@... wrote:

 Oh man! (Gomzy that was for you ;-) ) I am glad someone here noticed this and 
 pointed it out.  Actually ever since WOHE, ARR has been smuggling a lot of 
 subtle Chinese arrangements in his songs that need a decent pair of 
 headphones and a keen sense of hearing to discern.
 
 The first time I heard Chinese influences in AR's music was way back in Jeans 
 in the intro of  Atisayam/Ajooba as the song was partly pictured at the Great 
 Wall.
 
 Raavan more than anything else makes a compelling argument to listen to AR's 
 music on headphones. There are so many bells and whistles and Easter eggs 
 scattered around that even a slight waver in our concentration makes them go 
 unnoticed .
 
 I think K.J.Singh and Deepak P.A deserve huge accolades for doing fantastic 
 job on mixing of this album given the asynchronous  multi faceted nature of 
 the album.  
 
 It is also wonderful to see the majority of the reviewers giving some time to 
 fully comprehend this complex (in terms of arrangements) s/track and raving 
 about it.
 
 Also one big round of applause for the anonymous ripper and Wired Beats for 
 gifting us the Female version of Aromale and making it look like one cohesive 
 piece. An awesome track and  on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to 
 the multi-layered Behane de. Just show cases  our man's versatility! 
 
 And thanks to Rawat too for doing  a great job with the the translations!
 
 Wired Beats - Has the thought of rearranging Aromale ever crossed your mind 
 or is it too challenging to attempt?
 
 PV
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@...
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 11:36:57 PM
 Subject: [arr] Re: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces
 
   
 Sorry, actually i think its played more like a cello than a violin. Anyways, 
 hope this is the right instrument.. .correct me if i'm way off. 
 
 
 
 
 From: manisha madhavan manisha_madhavan@ yahoo.com
 To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 12:30:45 AM
 Subject: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces
 
 
 Loving how ARR Sir used this instrument so subtly in both Raavan and VTV. The 
 Erhu is this two-string chinese instrument, played like a violin. I have 
 loved the sound right from when I heard it in Golden Era (Warriors of Heaven 
 and Earth) ...and just 3 months ago I got a Erhu concerto CD and have been 
 addicted to the sound of that instrument. So I was so ecstatic when I heard 
 it used in the BGM of Female Aaromale during the scene right before Manipaaya 
 starts. And again was extremely happy to hear it being used in Killi Re from 
 3:11-3:21. 
 
 Its just so subtle yet  beautiful... only ARR the wizard is brilliant enough 
 to add these pinch of exotic instruments to create magic with each tune. 
 If anybody knows other pieces in which this instrument has been used, do let 
 me know! And i hope ARR Sir continues using it even more in the future :-)





Re: [arr] Re: Kata Kata redeems Indian values cheapened by Chiggy-Wiggy

2010-04-30 Thread V S Rawat
On 4/30/2010 11:56 AM India Time, _pravindersheoran_ wrote:

 To be honest the way youngsters are going, Indian values will be a
 things of past very soon.


Exactly. younsters are going en masse the wrong way faster than ever.

And that is the exact reason why ARR and others should create such
gems reflecting indian values so that at least some youth get a change
to know what indian values are and then, to return to their roots.

ARR has always given more output for upholding indian values than most
of the current generation of MDs. How many indian songs Himesh has
given, how many Pritam has given, and so on for Anu Malik (of course,
sandeshe aate hain was great) and Nadeem Shravan (does any one
remember any). But, ARR has a long list of songs vandemataram, jan gan
man, and even his totally filmy songs were having social message
courtesy PK Mirshra and Mehboob, and such a message in Urvasi was the
one that had brought me to ARR the first time (not Roja, unlike most
of you) and that bond has never weakened.

The definitions of love and emotions changes with time. The shyness
and silent suffering sacrificing love of 50s is now a thing of past,
so much past that current generations don't even find and message in
that shyness and that silence and think that was stupidity of the
people of that time to be such shy and such silent and suffering and
do sacrifices.

That made many sweet and great songs of 50s irrelevant and out of
place in today's times.

But, global values don't change, motivating someone to do something
great doesn't change, patriotism doesn't change, social issues and
awareness of them doesn't change. That's why Pradeep's songs of 40s
and 50s and 60s are still stirring souls when heard, culminating with
all time great patriotic song ai mere watan ke logo that was first
rendered on 26 January 1963. It has been 47 years and still fresh.
Similarly many social issues raised in so many songs of Sahir still
remain as relevant as they were at the time of their creation.

I think definitions of emotional and love will keep on changing in
future and ARR's emotional and love songs will loose their values for
future generations.

But ARR's socially relevant songs, patriotic songs, etc. will remain
as fresh as ever.

 And then, only a few like us will just be left with our old
 memories and Kata Kata song.

There are and will be many others silently (less vocally) sending 
feedback and giving messages.

One such feedback/ message is here:

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2010/02/27/india_nominates_sylvester_stallone_de

 Meanwhile, Aussie singer/actress Kylie Minogue has been mauled for
 her performance of Chiggy Wiggy, which she sang in the movie
 Blue. The track, written by Abbas Tyrewala, has been named in the
 Most Atrocious Lyrics category.

Isn't that an odd honor for the costliest and most hyped song ever of 
bollywood?

I think as long as we don't see a Chiggy Wiggy sequels, seems such 
feedback has reached home and has been accepted and acted upon. It is 
too early to predict. Let's see what happens if Blue II gets made.

--
Rawat



 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawatvsra...@... wrote:

 18 years fan-hood of ARR does have its few points of discord. One
 recent one had meet my utter condemnation of Chiggy-wiggy.

 Since then, it has not even a full year, and ARR has given us
 Kata Kata.

 And Kata Kata has: -- Chhoto koi devar hoy to chhaati laagiye
 (if there is any younger brother of the husband, keep him close
 to your heart like your own son)

 Aur saas sasur ke aadar keeje paanye laagiye e e e (and pay
 respect to father and mother of the husband, touch their feet)

 Re jaith jaithani samjhaave to maathe raakhije re (if elder
 brother of husband and his wife teaches something, etch that in
 your mind)

 Aur nandan ki saheli jaisi saath raakhiye re, o chori sun, saath
  raakhijo ra (and keep the sisters of husband with you like your
 friends, listen, o girl, keep them with you) --

 A complete contrast the above has with chiggy-wiggy.

 Chiggy-wiggy was demeaning women, presenting them as brainless
 objects to be won over by cheap, streetsmart tactics of males
 for their pleasure, all this going contrary to the things that
 ARR stands for.

 Kata Kata has suggetions/ instructions/ tips/ prompts that every
  Indian mother tells her Indian daughter on wedding when the
 daughter goes to a new home for the first time - the home of her
 husband. It is holding the key how to keep the family together,
 instead of breaking the bonds and snatching the husband from him
 family and establishing a personal home for herself.

 I can feel every Indian buzurg (elder men and women) nodding
 their head in deep-felt approval on hearing it. It is nothing
 new, they themselves have been told the same at their own
 wedding, and they themselves have told the same to their sons
 and daughters at their weddings. It is pure indianness.

 And it covers so many aspects of Indian marriages that it is

[arr] Re: Katakata

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
Don't you just love this fun song?  It's got this incredible groove in the end 
that just builds up and up with instruments and percussion, starting first with 
the Oud Jhala...so nice to hear the Oud played this way  

Raavan is so jam packed with goodiessmall and big!  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arr_raghu arr_ra...@... wrote:

 Katakata is breathtaking..song rich in both melody and energy.
 ARR has somehow mastered this exceptional skill of packing many 
 elements, many emotions, many expressions all at once.





Re: [arr] A R Rahman Library Gallery in Video ( Part 1 2 ) youtube

2010-04-30 Thread Abhimanyu Rana
Hi Santosh,

Though I can manage to write long words of praises for you...but that won't 
suffice the effort you have put in.

All I can say is, everyone lives, but those who life with a meaning in their 
lives, must be born again.

 Regards,
Abhimanyu Rana
http://twitter.com/methenextlevel






From: Santosh Pandey skpandey...@ymail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 29 April, 2010 11:28:27 AM
Subject: [arr] A R Rahman Library  Gallery in Video ( Part 1  2 ) youtube

  
Hai Dear All My Rahmaniac ..

   This Is Our A R Rahman Library  Gallery video ( Part 1  2 
) as below in youtube .. 
 
In A R Rahman Library  Gallery there is Lots Information About Sir
A R Rahman ( world Great Musician ) , Science , History, Sports, Great
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[arr] Re: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

2010-04-30 Thread pravindersheoran
Guys,
its amazing how passionate everyone of you is for ARR's music, 
and how far everyone goes to listen to even a small instument.

Can someone please tell me, what instrument plays in 'Chhoti si asha' or 'china 
china asai' from Roja at 2.29 and 2.34/2.35.
Its after she says 'dil hai chhota sa', and next time after se says 'masti 
bhare man ki
I have a doubt it could be Sarangi but I am not sure.

Since when I was a kid, and didn't even know about ARR, I've been in love with 
Roja's music and this small one second instrument.
 
Pravinder.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspva...@... wrote:

 Oh man! (Gomzy that was for you ;-) ) I am glad someone here noticed this and 
 pointed it out.  Actually ever since WOHE, ARR has been smuggling a lot of 
 subtle Chinese arrangements in his songs that need a decent pair of 
 headphones and a keen sense of hearing to discern.
 
 The first time I heard Chinese influences in AR's music was way back in Jeans 
 in the intro of  Atisayam/Ajooba as the song was partly pictured at the Great 
 Wall.
 
 Raavan more than anything else makes a compelling argument to listen to AR's 
 music on headphones. There are so many bells and whistles and Easter eggs 
 scattered around that even a slight waver in our concentration makes them go 
 unnoticed .
 
 I think K.J.Singh and Deepak P.A deserve huge accolades for doing fantastic 
 job on mixing of this album given the asynchronous  multi faceted nature of 
 the album.  
 
 It is also wonderful to see the majority of the reviewers giving some time to 
 fully comprehend this complex (in terms of arrangements) s/track and raving 
 about it.
 
 Also one big round of applause for the anonymous ripper and Wired Beats for 
 gifting us the Female version of Aromale and making it look like one cohesive 
 piece. An awesome track and  on the opposite end of the spectrum compared to 
 the multi-layered Behane de. Just show cases  our man's versatility! 
 
 And thanks to Rawat too for doing  a great job with the the translations!
 
 Wired Beats - Has the thought of rearranging Aromale ever crossed your mind 
 or is it too challenging to attempt?
 
 PV
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@...
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 11:36:57 PM
 Subject: [arr] Re: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces
 
   
 Sorry, actually i think its played more like a cello than a violin. Anyways, 
 hope this is the right instrument.. .correct me if i'm way off. 
 
 
 
 
 From: manisha madhavan manisha_madhavan@ yahoo.com
 To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 12:30:45 AM
 Subject: Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces
 
 
 Loving how ARR Sir used this instrument so subtly in both Raavan and VTV. The 
 Erhu is this two-string chinese instrument, played like a violin. I have 
 loved the sound right from when I heard it in Golden Era (Warriors of Heaven 
 and Earth) ...and just 3 months ago I got a Erhu concerto CD and have been 
 addicted to the sound of that instrument. So I was so ecstatic when I heard 
 it used in the BGM of Female Aaromale during the scene right before Manipaaya 
 starts. And again was extremely happy to hear it being used in Killi Re from 
 3:11-3:21. 
 
 Its just so subtle yet  beautiful... only ARR the wizard is brilliant enough 
 to add these pinch of exotic instruments to create magic with each tune. 
 If anybody knows other pieces in which this instrument has been used, do let 
 me know! And i hope ARR Sir continues using it even more in the future :-)





Re: [arr] Use of Erhu instrument in recent ARR pieces

2010-04-30 Thread A.R.Rajib
Here r the pics of some instruments mentioned here 
Erhu  [image: erhu_2.jpg]

Oud  [image: oud4.jpg]

Banjo  [image: Banjo.jpg]


Duduk  [image: duduk.jpg]

This is for those who never heard of these names,like me :P ... looks very
interesting ...Please make this thread longer :-)

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Prabhu Rajagopal prabhu...@gmail.comwrote:



 Hi Manisha,

 How interesting, thanks for this. I had no idea what the name of this
 instrument is!
 If I am not mistaken, the same instrument is used in

 - *Tour of the villas *from Couples Retreat:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWpe1TMrKOQ listen from *min. 1.14 *onwards
 - *Tu Mera Hai *from Ada from *min. 3.12* onwards. I love the way ARR
 makes the ending of the Erhu move on to the Banjo/Oud/Ukelele (not sure)..
 super!

 Prabhu




 On 30 April 2010 06:30, manisha madhavan manisha_madha...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Loving how ARR Sir used this instrument so subtly in both Raavan and VTV.
 The Erhu is this two-string chinese instrument, played like a violin. I have
 loved the sound right from when I heard it in Golden Era (Warriors of Heaven
 and Earth) ...and just 3 months ago I got a Erhu concerto CD and have been
 addicted to the sound of that instrument. So I was so ecstatic when I heard
 it used in the BGM of Female Aaromale during the scene right before
 Manipaaya starts. And again was extremely happy to hear it being used in
 Killi Re from 3:11-3:21.

 Its just so subtle yet  beautiful...only ARR the wizard is brilliant
 enough to add these pinch of exotic instruments to create magic with each
 tune.
 If anybody knows other pieces in which this instrument has been used, do
 let me know! And i hope ARR Sir continues using it even more in the future
 :-)




 




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- Regards

~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~


[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album (and a rock)

2010-04-30 Thread pravindersheoran
I can't stop now, 
I have a wish as well.
A hard rock or heavy metal song, maybe just one song, maybe in next 10 years, 
but one hard rock song please.
ARR has revealed in an interview that when he was young, he used to play in 
some rock bands, he loved Pink Floyd. If I am not wrong Pink Floyd were loudest 
rock band of their time.
ARR has given us every kind of musical pleasure,
just this sort as well please.

As far as AJ's wish is concerned, I am sure ARR will come with at least one 
ethnic album very soon. That's where his soul is, I reckon.
If I am not wrong, you must have loved Mosquito from 'Connections'. That 
piece of music is actually a piece of magic.

Pravinder.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love Dor 
 and Natarang too.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote:
 
  
  I agree with you Chord..
  But you missed 'water'..:-(
  
  He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
  to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
  Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
  these days..]
  Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of 
  'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were folk 
  based.
  
  
  Regards
  Yogesh
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
  
   Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, 
   rustic, and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and 
   Lagaan are examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the 
   early 1990s by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani 
   melodies in a folk backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
   
   Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no 
   western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian 
   music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis, 
   harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album 
   with traditional Indian instruments.  
   
   Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
   placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please 
   don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were 
   based on period/history films.
   
   The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this type 
   of music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type of 
   music alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects, 
   minimalist instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. 
   a Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.
   
   This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s Rahman 
   or making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
   
   Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.
  
 





Re: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5

2010-04-30 Thread Chweetu24
I'm disappointed too, but at least we'll get to listen to the tracks!!

BTW Mani sir doesn't do a lot of promos in Tamilhe likes to keep the 
surprise element till the movie releases...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote:

 I hope this isn't true. If it is, I am disappointed. Not that it will be on 
 the 5th but that there won't be a formal launch. Hardly any promos as well. 
 What makes Raavanan different from Raavan? Why is Raavanan being given the 
 step motherly treatment ? It has Vikram, Prithviraj, Aishwarya, Maniratnam 
 and Rahman - these names are Huge in the South. 
 
 
 
 
 From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@...
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 14:21:34
 Subject: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5
 
   
 http://sify. com/movies/ tamil/fullstory. php?id=14940190
 
 On May 5 Sony Music will launch straight into the southern market, the audio 
 of Mani Ratnam's Raavanan. Sources have confirmed that there will be no 
 formal audio launch.
 
 The reasons given out are the non-availability of the stars mainly AR Rahman 
 and Mani Ratnam. The director is busy giving the final polish to the film 
 which he plans to screen outside of the festival at Cannes.
 
 However Big Pictures and Sony Music are planning to hold a promotional press 
 meet for Tamil Raavanan at a later date.





[arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-04-30 Thread V S Rawat
Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members 
are immersed in Raavan and praising it.

I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?

Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not 
just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly 
songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper 
differences.

I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically 
great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to 
weave the songs as a single fabric

On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a 
underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a 
single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly. 
Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.

Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies 
of ARR-Mani got discussed.

Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is 
gold, back to the basics.

Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.

What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was 
a technically great album having new types of sounds.

I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan, 
but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in 
raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about 
that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down 
in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about 
music, about ARR's music.

Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way 
we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we 
all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.

At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's 
high expectations after his oscars.

I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations 
and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget 
people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should 
create what his heart says.

Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to him.

Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of 
people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now. 
Raavan got released without a word from ARR.

And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had 
stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.

I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations 
and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become 
pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan. 
A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of 
blue.

Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music 
explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music 
when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in touch.

Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an 
album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover.

It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an 
experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories, 
confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that 
feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style of composition 
(not the blue style, but the feedback on blue style) to come up with 
Raavan that has turned out to be abashed heart-stealer.

With so many conceptual differences in Blue and Raavan that make both 
the ablums almost mutually exclusive, how can a person liking blue can 
now like raavan also, and how can a person liking raavan might have 
liked blue also?

Those persons who appreciates everything, their appreciations get 
discounted and they are seen as creating a hype. Everything can't be 
equally great. Such persons need to individually introspect and find 
what he stands for and what he doesn't identify with, and then 
appreciate certain things that he stands for and criticize certain 
things that he doesn't identify with. People can make out what is 
forced appreciation and what is undue criticism.
--

Thanks a gig to Mani, he had given us ARR for the first time 18 years 
ago. And he has now re-given us our very same ARR, cured of oscar 
aberration.

--
Rawat


Re: [arr] Puli Track List

2010-04-30 Thread fani kalyan
Thank god..this tracklist is too much for pavan kalyan :P

--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Puli Track List
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 8:15 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  The tracklist is not genuine.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 01:29, Praveen Namburi quadth...@gmail. com wrote:

























Gr8 2hear tht. Eagerly waiting, do any 1 the audio release date? 
On Apr 30, 2010 10:52 AM, ajay_baskar2000@ yahoo.co. in ajay_baskar2000@ 
yahoo.co. in wrote:


















 



  



  
  
  1. Puli Gharshana - Vijay Jesudas, Blaaze, Reena Bhardwaj

2. Raa Ante Raanu- Karthik, Sadhna Sargam

3. Pichchi Kuchchi - Udit Narayan, Madhusree, Malgudi Subha

4. Power Starku Salaam - AR Rahman, Benny Dayal, Shreya Ghoshal, Tanvi Shah

5. Nuvve Naalo - Naresh Iyer, Shreya Ghoshal. 

6. Daggara Raavoy - Sunidhi Chauhan, Geeta Maadhuri, Karthik

7. Chinnaga Chekkega - Hariharan, Sujatha



Source: chiranjeeviblog. com



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[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album (and a rock)

2010-04-30 Thread vimaljk

would like to hear a classic punk/ska song from Rahmansomething like The 
Clash or The English Beatnot sure if it would get universal acceptance but 
it would be awesome

a full country or even better...a bluegrass one..would be amazing


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pravindersheoran pravindersheo...@... 
wrote:

 I can't stop now, 
 I have a wish as well.
 A hard rock or heavy metal song, maybe just one song, maybe in next 10 years, 
 but one hard rock song please.
 ARR has revealed in an interview that when he was young, he used to play in 
 some rock bands, he loved Pink Floyd. If I am not wrong Pink Floyd were 
 loudest rock band of their time.
 ARR has given us every kind of musical pleasure,
 just this sort as well please.
 
 As far as AJ's wish is concerned, I am sure ARR will come with at least one 
 ethnic album very soon. That's where his soul is, I reckon.
 If I am not wrong, you must have loved Mosquito from 'Connections'. That 
 piece of music is actually a piece of magic.
 
 Pravinder.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
  You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love Dor 
  and Natarang too.
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote:
  
   
   I agree with you Chord..
   But you missed 'water'..:-(
   
   He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
   to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
   Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
   these days..]
   Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of 
   'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were 
   folk based.
   
   
   Regards
   Yogesh
   
   
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
   
Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, 
rustic, and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa 
and Lagaan are examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin 
in the early 1990s by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, 
Rajasthani melodies in a folk backdrop.oh, how rare these 
albums are..

Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no 
western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple 
Indian music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, 
sarangis, harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure 
acoustic album with traditional Indian instruments.  

Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, 
please don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks 
were based on period/history films.

The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this type 
of music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type 
of music alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects, 
minimalist instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm 
melodies.. a Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth 
were like this too.

This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s Rahman 
or making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 

Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.
   
  
 





[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album (and a rock)

2010-04-30 Thread pravindersheoran
I would love that anything else in whole world.
Only concern is, how would Indian lyrics fit in such music.
Till now, all Indian rock songs I've heard, have strange and mostly weird 
lyrics which don't fit.

Pravinder.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vima...@... wrote:

 
 would like to hear a classic punk/ska song from Rahmansomething like The 
 Clash or The English Beatnot sure if it would get universal acceptance 
 but it would be awesome
 
 a full country or even better...a bluegrass one..would be amazing
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pravindersheoran pravindersheoran@ 
 wrote:
 
  I can't stop now, 
  I have a wish as well.
  A hard rock or heavy metal song, maybe just one song, maybe in next 10 
  years, but one hard rock song please.
  ARR has revealed in an interview that when he was young, he used to play in 
  some rock bands, he loved Pink Floyd. If I am not wrong Pink Floyd were 
  loudest rock band of their time.
  ARR has given us every kind of musical pleasure,
  just this sort as well please.
  
  As far as AJ's wish is concerned, I am sure ARR will come with at least one 
  ethnic album very soon. That's where his soul is, I reckon.
  If I am not wrong, you must have loved Mosquito from 'Connections'. That 
  piece of music is actually a piece of magic.
  
  Pravinder.
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
  
   You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love 
   Dor and Natarang too.
   
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote:
   

I agree with you Chord..
But you missed 'water'..:-(

He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
these days..]
Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of 
'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were 
folk based.


Regards
Yogesh


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:

 Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, 
 rustic, and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa 
 and Lagaan are examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin 
 in the early 1990s by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, 
 Rajasthani melodies in a folk backdrop.oh, how rare these 
 albums are..
 
 Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no 
 western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple 
 Indian music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, 
 sarangis, harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure 
 acoustic album with traditional Indian instruments.  
 
 Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
 placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, 
 please don't give up in period films.some of your best 
 soundtracks were based on period/history films.
 
 The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this 
 type of music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this 
 type of music alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle 
 effects, minimalist instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm 
 melodies.. a Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth 
 were like this too.
 
 This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s 
 Rahman or making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
 
 Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.

   
  
 





Re: [arr] Please vote for favorite song in Raavan

2010-04-30 Thread A.R.Rajib
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/surveys?id=2967349

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/surveys?id=2967349This is the
link , I am the first voter and My vote goes to Ranjha Ranjha :-)

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:55 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I created a poll in the polls section for Raavan favorite song.  I don't
 know how to display the URL link for that particular poll page.could
 someone please help me?  Previously, that specific URL could be found under
 page source, but no longer.

 Please participate in poll. You have to scroll down under Polls to find it.



 

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Re: [arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album (and a rock)

2010-04-30 Thread A.R.Rajib
Jessie's Been drivin me crazy is a song from this genre, if i am not
mistaken :-)

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:58 AM, pravindersheoran 
pravindersheo...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

 I can't stop now,
 I have a wish as well.
 A hard rock or heavy metal song, maybe just one song, maybe in next 10
 years, but one hard rock song please.
 ARR has revealed in an interview that when he was young, he used to play in
 some rock bands, he loved Pink Floyd. If I am not wrong Pink Floyd were
 loudest rock band of their time.
 ARR has given us every kind of musical pleasure,
 just this sort as well please.

 As far as AJ's wish is concerned, I am sure ARR will come with at least one
 ethnic album very soon. That's where his soul is, I reckon.
 If I am not wrong, you must have loved Mosquito from 'Connections'. That
 piece of music is actually a piece of magic.

 Pravinder.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
  You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love
 Dor and Natarang too.
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote:
  
  
   I agree with you Chord..
   But you missed 'water'..:-(
  
   He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
   to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
   Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
   these days..]
   Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of
 'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were folk
 based.
  
  
   Regards
   Yogesh
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
   
Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional,
 rustic, and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and
 Lagaan are examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the
 early 1990s by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani
 melodies in a folk backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
   
Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no
 western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian
 music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis,
 harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album
 with traditional Indian instruments.
   
Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in
 placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please
 don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were based
 on period/history films.
   
The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this
 type of music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type
 of music alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects,
 minimalist instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. a
 Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.
   
This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s
 Rahman or making any broad statementsit's just a wish.
   
Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.
   
  
 




 

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Re: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5

2010-04-30 Thread Dinesh Scaran
its quite hurtful that the Tamil version is being sidelined in many ways but we 
cant blame the artists (ARR,actors,Mani) because its the producers decision on 
to have the audio launch or not. Its more complicated than what we think it is. 
We cant give preference to our wish once ur in a business field but for the 
delay in releasing the Raavanan audio (what? about 10-15 days from the hindi 
audio?), im expecting to see something more than what the Ravan audio has. 
Perhaps an extra song or a Theme music. If its just the same, then i have no 
comment. There is no more ill treatment to us who r expecting Raavanan more.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vima...@... wrote:

 I completely agree.  Plus, Mani and Rahman hail from the Tamil film 
 industry.Also, Vikram is a MUCH better actor that Abhishek (not saying 
 that Abhi is bad but Vikram is probably one of the top 5 in the 
 country)...this clearly reeks of one version being favored over the 
 otheralso i find it offensive that the Hindi version is the only one 
 being prepped to screen at Cannes.but it could be the decision of the 
 producers (Reliance).
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote:
 
  I hope this isn't true. If it is, I am disappointed. Not that it will be on 
  the 5th but that there won't be a formal launch. Hardly any promos as well. 
  What makes Raavanan different from Raavan? Why is Raavanan being given the 
  step motherly treatment ? It has Vikram, Prithviraj, Aishwarya, Maniratnam 
  and Rahman - these names are Huge in the South. 
  
  
  
  
  From: yeshrao81 yeshrao81@
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Fri, 30 April, 2010 14:21:34
  Subject: [arr] Raavanan audio on May 5
  

  http://sify. com/movies/ tamil/fullstory. php?id=14940190
  
  On May 5 Sony Music will launch straight into the southern market, the 
  audio of Mani Ratnam's Raavanan. Sources have confirmed that there will be 
  no formal audio launch.
  
  The reasons given out are the non-availability of the stars mainly AR 
  Rahman and Mani Ratnam. The director is busy giving the final polish to the 
  film which he plans to screen outside of the festival at Cannes.
  
  However Big Pictures and Sony Music are planning to hold a promotional 
  press meet for Tamil Raavanan at a later date.
 





[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album (and a rock)

2010-04-30 Thread vimaljk
they have that type of music in other languages...so i see no reason why they 
cant do the same with indian languages!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pravindersheoran pravindersheo...@... 
wrote:

 I would love that anything else in whole world.
 Only concern is, how would Indian lyrics fit in such music.
 Till now, all Indian rock songs I've heard, have strange and mostly weird 
 lyrics which don't fit.
 
 Pravinder.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote:
 
  
  would like to hear a classic punk/ska song from Rahmansomething like 
  The Clash or The English Beatnot sure if it would get universal 
  acceptance but it would be awesome
  
  a full country or even better...a bluegrass one..would be amazing
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, pravindersheoran pravindersheoran@ 
  wrote:
  
   I can't stop now, 
   I have a wish as well.
   A hard rock or heavy metal song, maybe just one song, maybe in next 10 
   years, but one hard rock song please.
   ARR has revealed in an interview that when he was young, he used to play 
   in some rock bands, he loved Pink Floyd. If I am not wrong Pink Floyd 
   were loudest rock band of their time.
   ARR has given us every kind of musical pleasure,
   just this sort as well please.
   
   As far as AJ's wish is concerned, I am sure ARR will come with at least 
   one ethnic album very soon. That's where his soul is, I reckon.
   If I am not wrong, you must have loved Mosquito from 'Connections'. 
   That piece of music is actually a piece of magic.
   
   Pravinder.
   
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
   
You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love 
Dor and Natarang too.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote:

 
 I agree with you Chord..
 But you missed 'water'..:-(
 
 He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
 to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
 Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
 these days..]
 Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of 
 'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which 
 were folk based.
 
 
 Regards
 Yogesh
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
  Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional, 
  rustic, and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's 
  Zubeidaa and Lagaan are examples.  Another great example was the 
  album Lekin in the early 1990s by Hridainath 
  Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani melodies in a folk 
  backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..
  
  Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, 
  no western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, 
  simple Indian music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, 
  veenas, sarangis, harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. 
  etcjust a pure acoustic album with traditional Indian 
  instruments.  
  
  Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in 
  placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, 
  please don't give up in period films.some of your best 
  soundtracks were based on period/history films.
  
  The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this 
  type of music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on 
  this type of music alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, 
  gentle effects, minimalist instrumentation, heartfelt and old world 
  charm melodies.. a Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 
  Earth were like this too.
  
  This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s 
  Rahman or making any broad statementsit's just a wish. 
  
  Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.
 

   
  
 





[arr] Re: I want ARR to compose a pure, ethnic Indian album (and a rock)

2010-04-30 Thread pravindersheoran
Its almost there. Its rock yes, but hard no. 
I am talking about some killer guitars (if someone heard that guy playing 
guitars in a crazy way in ARR's Sydney concert, you got me)
I am talking about someone singing and tearing their throat like Kurt Cobain in 
Nirvana's 'smells like teen spirit.

By the way, those guitars in 'Thok De Killi' are heavenly. 

Pravinder.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote:

 Jessie's Been drivin me crazy is a song from this genre, if i am not
 mistaken :-)
 
 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:58 AM, pravindersheoran 
 pravindersheo...@... wrote:
 
  I can't stop now,
  I have a wish as well.
  A hard rock or heavy metal song, maybe just one song, maybe in next 10
  years, but one hard rock song please.
  ARR has revealed in an interview that when he was young, he used to play in
  some rock bands, he loved Pink Floyd. If I am not wrong Pink Floyd were
  loudest rock band of their time.
  ARR has given us every kind of musical pleasure,
  just this sort as well please.
 
  As far as AJ's wish is concerned, I am sure ARR will come with at least one
  ethnic album very soon. That's where his soul is, I reckon.
  If I am not wrong, you must have loved Mosquito from 'Connections'. That
  piece of music is actually a piece of magic.
 
  Pravinder.
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
  
   You're right, Water was like that too...and I love that album.  I love
  Dor and Natarang too.
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Yogesh yogesh2783@ wrote:
   
   
I agree with you Chord..
But you missed 'water'..:-(
   
He should better team up with Gulzarsahab
to create non-film album based on traditional and folk based melodies.
Because for films you should get that kind of script[and is difficult
these days..]
Apart from AR's below mentioned albums..I like songs of
  'Dor'[Salim-suliemaan] and songs of Marathi film 'Natarang' which were folk
  based.
   
   
Regards
Yogesh
   
   
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:

 Indian ethnic film albums that are simple, melodious, traditional,
  rustic, and having that old world charm are rare.  Rahman's Zubeidaa and
  Lagaan are examples.  Another great example was the album Lekin in the
  early 1990s by Hridainath Mangeshkarpure, beautiful, Rajasthani
  melodies in a folk backdrop.oh, how rare these albums are..

 Rahman..please do another album like this.no electronica, no
  western beats, no rap, no auto tune..just folk, rustic, simple Indian
  music with tablas, dholaks, santoors, flutes, sitars, veenas, sarangis,
  harmoniums, strings, ouds, bells, etc. etcjust a pure acoustic album
  with traditional Indian instruments.

 Of course, the right film and the right director have to be in
  placeand it would probably be for a period film.  Rahman, please
  don't give up in period films.some of your best soundtracks were based
  on period/history films.

 The song Khili Re from Raavan is the most recent example of this
  type of music...would love a 40-50 minute film album just on this type
  of music alone by ARR with beautiful chords, strings, gentle effects,
  minimalist instrumentation, heartfelt and old world charm melodies.. a
  Naushadish type album.  Some parts of 1947 Earth were like this too.

 This is just a wish of mine. I'm not comparing new Rahman to 90s
  Rahman or making any broad statementsit's just a wish.

 Rahman, I hope you hear this wish.

   
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
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[arr] Re: Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-04-30 Thread AJ
Reasons why I like Blue:

Catchy songs
Couple of nice melody songs
Crafty arrangements
Nice sound range
Multi genre
Attention to detail
Rehnuma, Fiqrana, Bhoola Tujhe are my favorites


Reasons why I like Raavan:
Catchy songs
All songs are melodious
Arrangements and sound are spectacular
Attention to detail even more
Folk, earthy, semi classical, ethnic, raw
Emotions are very concentrated 
Each song is truly special overall.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members 
 are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
 
 I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
 
 Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not 
 just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly 
 songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper 
 differences.
 
 I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically 
 great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to 
 weave the songs as a single fabric
 
 On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a 
 underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a 
 single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly. 
 Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
 
 Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies 
 of ARR-Mani got discussed.
 
 Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is 
 gold, back to the basics.
 
 Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
 
 What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was 
 a technically great album having new types of sounds.
 
 I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan, 
 but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in 
 raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about 
 that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down 
 in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about 
 music, about ARR's music.
 
 Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way 
 we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we 
 all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.
 
 At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's 
 high expectations after his oscars.
 
 I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations 
 and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget 
 people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should 
 create what his heart says.
 
 Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to him.
 
 Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of 
 people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now. 
 Raavan got released without a word from ARR.
 
 And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had 
 stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.
 
 I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations 
 and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become 
 pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan. 
 A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of 
 blue.
 
 Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music 
 explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music 
 when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in touch.
 
 Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an 
 album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover.
 
 It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an 
 experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories, 
 confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that 
 feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style of composition 
 (not the blue style, but the feedback on blue style) to come up with 
 Raavan that has turned out to be abashed heart-stealer.
 
 With so many conceptual differences in Blue and Raavan that make both 
 the ablums almost mutually exclusive, how can a person liking blue can 
 now like raavan also, and how can a person liking raavan might have 
 liked blue also?
 
 Those persons who appreciates everything, their appreciations get 
 discounted and they are seen as creating a hype. Everything can't be 
 equally great. Such persons need to individually introspect and find 
 what he stands for and what he doesn't identify with, and then 
 appreciate certain things that he stands for and criticize certain 
 things that he doesn't identify with. People can make out what is 
 forced appreciation and what is undue criticism.
 --
 
 Thanks a gig to Mani, he had given us ARR for the first time 18 years 
 ago. And he has now re-given us our very same ARR, cured of oscar 
 aberration.
 
 --
 Rawat