Re: [arr] The price of piracy - shorter songs and shorter albums?
On 5/6/2010 5:47 AM India Time, _AJ_ wrote: You know, I wonder about Raavan's CD being so short in length, as I've mentioned and complained about many times already (sorry for overdoing it). Perhaps it has to do with the script, the plot, the fact that some songs were excluded because they decided not to film them. But, another thought crossed my mind. The CD sales industry is down and it's no longer as much of a profit making enterprise as it used to be. Piracy is rampant and people are getting music for free. So, the film makers, music directors, audio companies could be thinking: Hey, if consumers are freeloading on the music and not buying the CDs, why should we, as directors and creators and promoters of films and music put more than the bare minimum on the product? Very interesting observation. A totally new direction of looking at it. Firstly, I think producers/ directors/ promoters/ MD etc. are not involved in the music sales. Music rights are sold at a fixed amount (with some royalty) to some music selling company, often before even the film or music is made, and then onwards producers/ directors/ promoters/ MD are unaffected how the music sells or flops, except the impact on their reputation. They don't get more money if music sells more and they don't get less money if music sells less. Royalty figures for MD etc. are just a peanut for any individual album. So, I think that NOT producers/ directors/ promoters/ MD etc., but just the music company is harmed or benefits from the sales of the music, and they thankfully can't affect how the MD makes the music and how the director shoots the movie. This is just a train of thought and I don't know how true this is, but it's a possibility in my mind. Raavan only has the bare bones music for the film, nothing else. Heck, they didn't even put Ranjha's second version on it and avoided any background theme instrumental, which this type of CD would really ask for and be expected for a dark film like this one. So, Mani Ratnam or whomever else may have thought, Heck, people are only going to donwload the music, so why bother adding in anything extra? As I described above, I don't think Mani is bothered directly about music sales, so he would not say it. Also, even if it makes sense for Sony or T-series to say it, I don't see they intentionally not putting any song in CD thinking about piracy. At most, they can exclude a song now and release it in a later version to make sincere music lovers buy twice. So, if piracy continues rampant and people continue to not buy CDs, I think there may be a trend for more bare bones audio CDs in the future with shorter song length and shorter number of songs, depriving hardcore music lovers like me the extras we come to expect for a well made audio CD product by renown music makers like ARR. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but perhaps there may be something to this. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD
I strongly recommended!!! Here is my SIGNATURE. From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:27:43 PM Subject: [arr] Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD Perhaps hoping for the Asha and Sonu songs is a bit far fetched, but if the Richa Sharma version of Ranjha Ranjha is in the film, WHY HASN'T IT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CD? COME ON! Also, Rahman's Udja Re should be in later CD versions too. Guys, please, please form a voice, a lobby to get at least those 2 songs on later CDs.Ranjha Ranjha Richa Sharma version (which may be the unplugged version that Bollywood Hungama previously had on their website) and the ARR sung Udja Re. Could we please organize a petition, a voice, that we realy, really want these songs to be included in all 3 language version CDs in later batches? PLEASE?? ? ? I really feel strongly about this. If enough of us express a strong desire about this, maybe the probability will be raised that at least these 2 songs will be included in later Raavan/Raavanan/ Vilain CDs. Come on! Let's organize something!
[arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
Ganpy, i love this msg of u. I too agree with u. Since Ravanan got released, its been Ravan vs Ravanan. There isnt a genuine review on Ravanan as it self. People should learn to love songs despite the language --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ga...@... wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy.
Re: [arr] Re: Raavan - Lets be honest
Guys...for those who feel Raavan / Raavanan songs aren't like ARR's before...film songs are made to suite the story line...as we can see those stills...theyare looking something unusual...look at the facial expression of those actors...full of force...with that kind of storyline...does a soft melody romantic duet song will suite???think about it... --- On Thu, 5/6/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Raavan - Lets be honest To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 7:41 AM I'll be honest, really honest. I'm telling you the complete truth.I think Raavan is a short masterpiece. Short, yes, but sweet and brilliant, you bet!!! And by the way, if you don't think Khili Re is a lovely melody, I don't have much else to say. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, accountsjk accountsjk@ ... wrote: At the outset, I am a very old fan of ARR. From Roja days and still buy his CDs on the first day of release. However, Raavan for me was very ordinary. Lets be honest here - how many agree with me on the following 1. The songs sound like 'I have heard them before from ARR. It did not feel new. 2. Where are the lovely melodies? I miss the romantic, smooth ARR melodies that captivated us before 3. Too garish and loud with no substance in some songs? When Endrendum Punnege in Tamil was released, it took us by shock. What music it was. Is there any such 'Wow factor'. I doubt. Awaiting Endhiran to see how the ARR - Sankar combination has worked things out.
Re: [arr] Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
Ganpy, I think it is human nature to compare so it might not be insulting the the persons being compared. However, I do find odd that people are just saying this like this and dislike that. One should give his reasons for not liking something and for liking something else. -- Rawat On 5/6/2010 8:22 AM India Time, _Ganpy_ wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy.
Re: [arr] What is anurada sriram singing?
When I first heard the song, I didn't like Anuradha's singing at all too. It could be because I was captivated by Rekha's voice in the Hindi version, and it could also be because I've never heard Anuradha singing in such a way. But with continuous hearing, I don't feel her voice to be funny nor weird any longer. In fact, it sounds kinda funky and sexy...almost like she's teasing her male counterpart with her seductive voice. And could someone else have sung the song in a better way? Unless it's Rekha Bharadwaj, I doubt anyone else could have pulled this song way better than Anuradha. Probably watching this number on screen could help others to see why ARR made Anuradha to present the song in this way. --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Anish Gupte musimax2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Anish Gupte musimax2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] What is anurada sriram singing? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:36 PM Yeah...well I kinda agree with sriramvr_in and Kalimuthu. I did mention in my post that Anuradha Sriram sounded weird...but I guess Shankar makes up for it ..and manages to lift the song tremendously. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Kalimuthu kalimu...@gmail. com wrote: Anuradha, IMO, spoiled the song. Someone else would have been a better choice. Don't deny that she has sung some beautiful songs but, sadly, this is not her song. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Sathya Sundaram satsun...@yahoo. com wrote: Heardthe preview of the song. Was thinking atleast the Tamil version singing will be better than hindi. Shankar mahadevan's voice sounds great. Anurada's singing is Horrible..Did ARR record this song when she was singing? I seriously doubt. the Lyrics of kata, kata is also horrible. I thot of buying the Tamil CD, but the hopes are gone and lost. see you next time ARR-Mani ratnam. -- Sent from Browsing Center.
Re: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
On 5/6/2010 8:02 AM India Time, _nakul gupta_ wrote: hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. could someone please quote the authentic version where and if ARR said that doesnt want to give music in hindi films? I can't believe that ARR will ever say or even think that. India, Tamil, Hindi are ARR's root, how can he leave his roots. So, withholding any further comments till I get to an authentic version of the same. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . i have said enough about blue, but saying that ravan shows ARR's disinterest in hindi music is a baseless statement for me. Raavan I am finding a great album by ARR, and in Ravan I meet to Vintage Rehman after a decade. Shortness is a different thing as by crying for its shortness we should not ignore what great gems he has included in this. a great rahman fan nakul You are giving general statements, could you please list what makes you dislike ravan? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] The price of piracy - shorter songs and shorter albums?
On 5/6/2010 5:47 AM India Time, _AJ_ wrote: (And by the way, I'm not blaming ARR for this... So nice of you not to blame ARR when he can be blamed. :-) When you are blaming everybody else, I think ARR should also share his responsibility for his inaction to do something about it. ARR has a repute now. No one can make ARR sign on dotted lines. ARR can put conditions that would popularize his music and would present the music to his fans in a better way, and producers/ directors/ rights companies will accept those terms. But he is not doing it as far as I know. -- this decision to have different versions of songs, not in different languages as that would be a genuine point, but the same song in same language in many voices, some songs in film not in CD, some songs in CD and not in film, so on -- all this actually fuels the piracy because user/ listeneres/ buyers are unsatisfied. they would say - what the hell, there are two more songs in the film that is not in CD so why bother buying incomplete CD. Genuine music buyers get worst affected as they pay full charges for the CD and still not get full music of the film. If Ud Ja rey is released in later versions of CD or DVDs, many of hard core fans would buy it again, but isn't that audio-video rights holder company cheating the music/ video buyers by making them cough up huge money many times in the name of one more songs. like gops had said once that he would (and had been) buy all collections of ARR even if they have few or even all repeat songs. I wonder if gops has made a list, and can share with us, of how many times he has bought same individual songs in different collections? -- Rawat
[arr] After Rythm it's VTV!
After Rythm it should be VTV in his Filmography. I think so. how? The ARR magic! Rythm is the last ARR album which had ARR's magic. ARR's magic in his music can't be explained; it is meant for experience; the music speaks for itself; there is no need for promoters. After Rythm, there is not a complete ARR album which speaks for itself. Of course there are numbers here and there (Newyork Nagaram, and a few), but not a complete album (alteast 95% magical?). if you remember how you've fallen in love with his music right from Roja, you will accept this. Those are the moments! (It may be harsh; but i am not here to insult his works in this decade! Eventhough they are not having the magic, they are not ordinary scores to be created, just that the satisfaction is missing.) Before Rythm, every album is afresh and a delight to own. We just play the cassettes again and again, unitl we have the next album. No complaints at all. After Rythm, the music of any of his albums didn't speak for themselves, most of the time, we fans were kind of advocating for them; like 'you need to hear it for another two more weeks, and you will like it', 'hey, he has tried something new which is not meant for current generation but will be appreciated in the future', 'i didn't like it initially, but tried hearing it after one year it sounded really good, so try the same', 'you need to have some extraordinary musical senses to understand his music', etc. May be the albums have extraordinary music but they are liked only by a limited number of fans. (Remember, Roja to Rythm has extraordinary music and at the same time liked by everybody). I think if you hear any album for two or more weeks, your mind will accept it and you will start humming it, but you won't feel the refreshness. (What's the need to listen to it?) What happend to him? Where is his magic? Is he saturated? Or am i getting old? Is it becuase of abundance of his kind of music composers? Is there any problem with my senses to capture it, or has he tried something which is meant for future. No clue. That too for a decade. Still unanswered. I am a music fan who has no idea about technicalities of the music creation. I don't want to know any of those technical details in order to enjoy the music. It just has to make us silent and listen to it. It has to renovate us to keep us going. ARR just came in and provided that refreshness (at a time when the music industry started becoming monotonous). I just need the same experience he has given us in the past. I was a bit of disappointed everytime an album released after Rythm. But I(we) waited for his return, since he is capabable of returning the magical experiance. Here comes 2010, here comes VTV, here comes his magic! He is back! This is what we are waiting for. Just play it and listen it. You will be renovated. Absolutely no complaints. Everybody loves the music. (You can refer to the VTV related posts in this group; 95% agree it is awesome). The BGM is perfect and fits the movie. Now it becomes close to our heart. Thanks to Gowtham! I know people, who are not anybody's fans, after hearing 'Hosanna and Omana Pennae', say, 'kaetka kaetka puthusa iruka; he still has the same magic even after 15 years'. This is the same we have experienced in the 90s with his music. And, this is important for his eternal success. We don't want him to give any less of what he has already gifted to us. (Like you want to see sachin scoring 100 in every match). I don't want people to fail, either side! Now, I have retained the hope that he will give us more such gifts. Now, I am happy and going back to listen VTV. Thanks for reading!
[arr] BRangan on people's response to his reviews
http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2010/05/06/bitty-ruminations-13/ *MAY 4*- Thanks to Rahman-worshipping friends and colleagues, I have been sucked into a couple of mildly vituperative discussions these past days, after my views on the *Raavan *soundtrack snaked their way into press and, subsequently, into Cyberia. Here’s a mild-mannered attempt to lay out the salient points. *Accusation: *The *Raavan *soundtrack is like *this *(as in, not appealing to the heart, the way you so callously put it) because Mani Ratnam is no longer interested in picturising songs. Most of these tracks will be used as background for montages. You should have taken that into account while writing about *Raavan*. *My rebuttal: *Hmmm.. I’m not sure about him no longer being interested in picturising songs. But if that is *indeed *the case, why not release this as a soundtrack album, like *Slumdog Millionaire*? I think everyone, like me, thought this was a regular “song album,” and that’s how I viewed it while I wrote about it. *Accusation: *That’s because it doesn’t make business sense to publicise an album as a “soundtrack.” And the audio market is already down… *My rebuttal: *So you’re saying I should buy a regular “song album” and listen to all the “songs” but write about it as a “soundtrack album?” I’m not even sure what that means (or if that makes sense). Besides, even if it *is *a “soundtrack album,” what prevents the tunes (the melodic aspect) from being more appealing? *Aaromale *was a pure-soundtrack number, used throughout the film in mutilated bits and pieces. But it worked as an audio-only experience too, right? Just like other non-lip-sync Rahman tracks like *Masakkali *(again, a montage situation) or *Khoon chala*? That’s what (and that’s all) I’m saying. *Accusation: *But give it more time and you’ll see that the melodic aspect, too, will begin to appeal. You can’t review a Rahman album in just a week. Some of these songs need a lot of careful listening, on the right kind of headphones… *My rebuttal: *So what are you saying? People writing about Rahman’s music should only do so after six months? A year? Ten years? How much *time *is a valid interval? And I’m sorry. I cannot be investing in hi-tech equipment just to listen to music. Whatever comes through the average pair of headphones works just fine for me. And then the Raja aspect of the accusation, inevitably, kicks in, that I’m a product of the Raja era and therefore not, ideally, the best-suited to analyse Rahman. (I wasn’t born in the MSV era either, so that music is out of bounds too? Seriously!) And then I’m hauled over coals for liking, say, the ensuing Vijay Antony number. Rock-solid rhythms for a characteristically lively Vijay dance number (even if, lately, they’ve all begun to seem the same). Lovely flavour of Kaapi. (*Paadhamilla paadhamilla pachirisi saadham*.. Aaah!) Of course, silly lyrics, and a sillier chorus. (“Come on and get me with your loving * machan*!” Ulp!). But who said life, these millennial months, hands you everything at once? I bring up Vijay Antony (who’s quietly been bringing out some of the more catchy *raga*-percolated numbers of late, and with really good singers to boot) because that was another part of the discussion — that pure “heart music” is meant solely for the movies meant for B- and C-centres, and that “class” films will increasingly go the *Raavan *way, all esoteric experimentation and (relatively) less emotion. If that’s so, I’m a little scared. Is it really such a bad thing to want to *feel *music, anymore? *PS:* The discussion then veered into the contention that the overall feel of the *Raavan *music was *intentionally *non-melodic (and more percussion-laden) because it was supposed to be “tribal.” And I just shut down from sheer weariness. I knew that bringing up Raja, at this point, would just lead to bloodshed, so I refrained from mentioning *his *“tribal” efforts, like *Raaman aandaalum* (*raga *shadings from the little-heard Andolika, plus a really inventive rhythm pattern that stretches from the middle of one line to the middle of the next, as opposed to *starting *where the line starts and ending where it ends) or *Kanni ponnu kaimela* (with its pounding tattoo of a drumbeat, indicative of the pounding heartbeats of the youngsters falling in love perhaps?)… But I’m sure there must be non-Raja instances of such sound, which functioned as stimulators to both head and heart, and which are presently escaping my rapidly decaying mind. Any suggestions? *PPS: * I *reallyreallyreally *wish I could label these articles something other than “Reviews” (whether film or music). I mean, who am I to pass *judgment *on Ilayaraja or Rahman or Mani Ratnam or even Sajid Khan, for that matter? But yes, like everyone else, I have *opinions *on the work they create, and those opinions I like to lay out as discussion generators. But I don’t suppose my editor, in his lifetime or mine, is going to let me rename
RE: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo
the sony release a single or compilation. vtv 1st was released as a compilation and a month later only the single version was released in singapore HARDCORE RAHMANIAC TILL DA VERY END!!! --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Noor Habib hn...@sg.pepperl-fuchs.com wrote: From: Noor Habib hn...@sg.pepperl-fuchs.com Subject: RE: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 5 May, 2010, 1:29 PM Hindi one is by T-series and the Tamil version is by Sony. Regards Habib Singapore From: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neevan Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 12:32 PM To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo Hi Habib is it the Sony release that they are selling and in particularly is it an combination or a single release? Regards Neevan From: Noor Habib hn...@sg.pepperl- fuchs.com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:13:35 Subject: RE: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo Hi Guys, For Singapore ARR fans. Raavanan (Hindi and tamil) Music CD is available at Lata Music at Tekka. Grab yours Today!!! Regards Habib Singapore *** IMPORTANT ! * * *The content of this email was found to contain potentially hostile or malicious content.For your protection, eSafes Content Security Server hasmodified this email and removed the dangerous content. * * * * * * \HTML Active Content: Found invalid IMG Tag, Found Web-beacon, Object Removed: 4 'img'
Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
uyire is better than Dil Se? Thats a bold statement considering the album has urdu written all over it. Again i guess it depends on what is the language of preference but any tamilian who is well versed with urdu will outright disagree. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:23 AM, vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com wrote: wait..did u just say spoken tamil sounds bad??...thats a pretty prejudiced statement man...no language sounds good or badevery language is beautiful to its speakers! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations..i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam...that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed...also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled). so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@... To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@...! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ -- www.gomzyphotography.com
[arr] RAAVANAAAAA.
Both raavanan n raavan are superb.i liked both version s very much.all songs are superb.but one thing tok de gilli is farfar bettr than tamil
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
i think its the next phase in ARR's career..before it was the the fans from south complaining that ARR not putting effort in tamil albums cause he focus more on bollywood projects..now its guys from north complaining that ARR not putting effort in hindi albums cause he focus more on hollywood projects...i think this cry will only increase in future... On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:02 AM, nakul gupta nakgup2...@yahoo.com wrote: hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . a great rahman fan nakul
Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD
lets go all out! HARDCORE RAHMANIAC TILL DA VERY END!!! --- On Thu, 6/5/10, Rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Rivjot riv...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 6 May, 2010, 12:22 PM Are these 'petitions' really noticed by someone? In any case, I am with you guys; needs these songs on CD!! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purev...@.. . wrote: Perhaps hoping for the Asha and Sonu songs is a bit far fetched, but if the Richa Sharma version of Ranjha Ranjha is in the film, WHY HASN'T IT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CD? COME ON! Also, Rahman's Udja Re should be in later CD versions too. Guys, please, please form a voice, a lobby to get at least those 2 songs on later CDs.Ranjha Ranjha Richa Sharma version (which may be the unplugged version that Bollywood Hungama previously had on their website) and the ARR sung Udja Re. Could we please organize a petition, a voice, that we realy, really want these songs to be included in all 3 language version CDs in later batches? PLEASE?? ? ? I really feel strongly about this. If enough of us express a strong desire about this, maybe the probability will be raised that at least these 2 songs will be included in later Raavan/Raavanan/ Vilain CDs. Come on! Let's organize something!
[arr] Krishnudu's Pappu audio to release very soon
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/telugu/top-stories/2010/pappu-audio-release-050510.html Krishnudu, Subbaraju and Deepika are playing the lead in Pappu. The tagline of the film is ‘Mr. Intelligent’. Sapan Pasuparthi is directing the film and Nalla Praveen Reddy and and Nagesh Yadav under the banner Aarya Entertainment . Buzz up! The producer says, The strengths of our film is the novelty in the storyline and the comedy element. Krishnudu is playing the title role of Pappu. He is always of the opinion that he is very intelligent. As a result, he faces several consequences. The incidents that occur in his life are very interesting and entertaining. What and how Pappu faced the consequences had to be seen only on the screen. How and what kind of help the heroine did to help the hero is worth watching.There are six songs in the film. The exponents of KM Music Conservatory School belonging to AR Rahman scored tunes for our film under the musical direction of Phani Kalyan. We will soon launch the audio The producer concluded. Gundu Hanumantha Rao, Sangeetha, Surya, Shiva Reddy,Benarji,Malladi Raghava and others are in the cast. -- regards, Vithur Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: arrahmanfans-dig...@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD
M in too On 5/6/10, Rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote: Are these 'petitions' really noticed by someone? In any case, I am with you guys; needs these songs on CD!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Perhaps hoping for the Asha and Sonu songs is a bit far fetched, but if the Richa Sharma version of Ranjha Ranjha is in the film, WHY HASN'T IT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CD? COME ON! Also, Rahman's Udja Re should be in later CD versions too. Guys, please, please form a voice, a lobby to get at least those 2 songs on later CDs.Ranjha Ranjha Richa Sharma version (which may be the unplugged version that Bollywood Hungama previously had on their website) and the ARR sung Udja Re. Could we please organize a petition, a voice, that we realy, really want these songs to be included in all 3 language version CDs in later batches? PLEASE I really feel strongly about this. If enough of us express a strong desire about this, maybe the probability will be raised that at least these 2 songs will be included in later Raavan/Raavanan/Vilain CDs. Come on! Let's organize something!
[arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
dinesh, i have listened to alai payuthey before...i just like the saathiya songs a lot better! to me..sathiya sounds like the original and AP the remake!it's the same reason why I like Jodi better than Doli Saja Ke Rakhna --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@... wrote: Rajib, you just insulted the Tamil language. How could u say its a horrible language? Though the Tamil that is being used in songs r actually the actual Tamil language, compared to the once being used by the Tamils in the daily conversations. If anyone uses the actual Tamil to speak to us, he will be whacked. Lol. Coz the Language is that complicated and pure. I agree Uyire is a better album than Dil Se, any day. But i prefered Jodha akhbar in Hindi compared to Tamil. Vimal, its really 'sin' not to listen to Alaipayuthey. Its by far one of ARR's strongest, solid album. The whole charm was lost in Saathiya. Do listen. I recommend it 200%. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations..i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam...that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed...also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled). so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: admin@ To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
Some things never change... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Mohamed Hashir arrhas...@... wrote: i think its the next phase in ARR's career..before it was the the fans from south complaining that ARR not putting effort in tamil albums cause he focus more on bollywood projects..now its guys from north complaining that ARR not putting effort in hindi albums cause he focus more on hollywood projects...i think this cry will only increase in future... On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:02 AM, nakul gupta nakgup2...@... wrote: hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . a great rahman fan nakul
[arr] Re: After Rythm it's VTV!
After Rhythm, I can think of many ARR albums that were masterpieces and have his magic. Your opinion does not make it fact. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, dass madetou...@... wrote: After Rythm it should be VTV in his Filmography. I think so. how? The ARR magic! Rythm is the last ARR album which had ARR's magic. ARR's magic in his music can't be explained; it is meant for experience; the music speaks for itself; there is no need for promoters. After Rythm, there is not a complete ARR album which speaks for itself. Of course there are numbers here and there (Newyork Nagaram, and a few), but not a complete album (alteast 95% magical?). if you remember how you've fallen in love with his music right from Roja, you will accept this. Those are the moments! (It may be harsh; but i am not here to insult his works in this decade! Eventhough they are not having the magic, they are not ordinary scores to be created, just that the satisfaction is missing.) Before Rythm, every album is afresh and a delight to own. We just play the cassettes again and again, unitl we have the next album. No complaints at all. After Rythm, the music of any of his albums didn't speak for themselves, most of the time, we fans were kind of advocating for them; like 'you need to hear it for another two more weeks, and you will like it', 'hey, he has tried something new which is not meant for current generation but will be appreciated in the future', 'i didn't like it initially, but tried hearing it after one year it sounded really good, so try the same', 'you need to have some extraordinary musical senses to understand his music', etc. May be the albums have extraordinary music but they are liked only by a limited number of fans. (Remember, Roja to Rythm has extraordinary music and at the same time liked by everybody). I think if you hear any album for two or more weeks, your mind will accept it and you will start humming it, but you won't feel the refreshness. (What's the need to listen to it?) What happend to him? Where is his magic? Is he saturated? Or am i getting old? Is it becuase of abundance of his kind of music composers? Is there any problem with my senses to capture it, or has he tried something which is meant for future. No clue. That too for a decade. Still unanswered. I am a music fan who has no idea about technicalities of the music creation. I don't want to know any of those technical details in order to enjoy the music. It just has to make us silent and listen to it. It has to renovate us to keep us going. ARR just came in and provided that refreshness (at a time when the music industry started becoming monotonous). I just need the same experience he has given us in the past. I was a bit of disappointed everytime an album released after Rythm. But I(we) waited for his return, since he is capabable of returning the magical experiance. Here comes 2010, here comes VTV, here comes his magic! He is back! This is what we are waiting for. Just play it and listen it. You will be renovated. Absolutely no complaints. Everybody loves the music. (You can refer to the VTV related posts in this group; 95% agree it is awesome). The BGM is perfect and fits the movie. Now it becomes close to our heart. Thanks to Gowtham! I know people, who are not anybody's fans, after hearing 'Hosanna and Omana Pennae', say, 'kaetka kaetka puthusa iruka; he still has the same magic even after 15 years'. This is the same we have experienced in the 90s with his music. And, this is important for his eternal success. We don't want him to give any less of what he has already gifted to us. (Like you want to see sachin scoring 100 in every match). I don't want people to fail, either side! Now, I have retained the hope that he will give us more such gifts. Now, I am happy and going back to listen VTV. Thanks for reading!
RE: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe
Usuru is not fire. It means life.. Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Vinayakam Murugan Sent: 06:05:2010 9.02.13 am Subject: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
[arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
Well said and I agree! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ga...@... wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy.
Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
I have no intention to insult any language , We Bangladeshiz r the only nation to have shed blood for our mother tongue !! The International Mother language is our Shaheed Dibos ...even it is celebrated in West Bangla and Indian High commision in Dhaka.So language is very important to us ..We honour each and every language !! I am just saying being an Bangali , Tamil dialogues Sounds weird ...nothing more ,nothing less...I have some of my Bangladeshi Friends in Malaysia ...they often complain that there r so many tamil people there ...they feel awkward when these tamil people talks in tamil ...it sounds so weird to US , We just don't like the Sound of tamil language ..Hindi is pretty much OK with everyone here i guess ... Ofcourse it is your or someone else's mother tongue ...and it must be sweet to you ...but when you don't understand anything of any particular language ...then things like these can happen My apologies if i have hurt anyone .. :-( On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@hotmail.comwrote: Rajib, you just insulted the Tamil language. How could u say its a horrible language? Though the Tamil that is being used in songs r actually the actual Tamil language, compared to the once being used by the Tamils in the daily conversations. If anyone uses the actual Tamil to speak to us, he will be whacked. Lol. Coz the Language is that complicated and pure. I agree Uyire is a better album than Dil Se, any day. But i prefered Jodha akhbar in Hindi compared to Tamil. Vimal, its really 'sin' not to listen to Alaipayuthey. Its by far one of ARR's strongest, solid album. The whole charm was lost in Saathiya. Do listen. I recommend it 200%. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations..i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam...that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed...also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled). so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@... To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@...! Groups Links -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] John Keats was right. Wasn't he?
Looking at all the mails on wanting to listen to the unreleased songs (on CDs or altogether) was reminded of this. Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard Are sweeter Regards, Mugilan.
Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD
count me in... From: hiten shah hiten.khop...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 12:11:26 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD M in too On 5/6/10, Rivjot riv...@yahoo. com wrote: Are these 'petitions' really noticed by someone? In any case, I am with you guys; needs these songs on CD!! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Perhaps hoping for the Asha and Sonu songs is a bit far fetched, but if the Richa Sharma version of Ranjha Ranjha is in the film, WHY HASN'T IT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CD? COME ON! Also, Rahman's Udja Re should be in later CD versions too. Guys, please, please form a voice, a lobby to get at least those 2 songs on later CDs.Ranjha Ranjha Richa Sharma version (which may be the unplugged version that Bollywood Hungama previously had on their website) and the ARR sung Udja Re. Could we please organize a petition, a voice, that we realy, really want these songs to be included in all 3 language version CDs in later batches? PLEASE?? ? ? I really feel strongly about this. If enough of us express a strong desire about this, maybe the probability will be raised that at least these 2 songs will be included in later Raavan/Raavanan/ Vilain CDs. Come on! Let's organize something!
[arr] AR Rahman Concert in Paris
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[arr] Re: Raavan - Lets be honest
Rahman is putting his heart and soul in every album. You just may not be liking the type of music he is giving for the specific films of late. Remember, Rahman is not churning out private albums one by oneit's music for the films and the music has to fit the theme and plot of the film. ARR is not disinterested in any projectevery project he takes seriously and tries to do his best given certain constraints. Give the man the benefit of the doubt. He will continue to provide amazing albums in Hindi, no doubt, so if you don't like this or that album, just be patienthopefully a film will come along that will require the type of music that you like. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nakul gupta nakgup2...@... wrote: hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . a great rahman fan nakul
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
Rawat, Now you know how it feels for us when you say Blue has no soul. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/6/2010 8:02 AM India Time, _nakul gupta_ wrote: hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. could someone please quote the authentic version where and if ARR said that doesnt want to give music in hindi films? I can't believe that ARR will ever say or even think that. India, Tamil, Hindi are ARR's root, how can he leave his roots. So, withholding any further comments till I get to an authentic version of the same. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . i have said enough about blue, but saying that ravan shows ARR's disinterest in hindi music is a baseless statement for me. Raavan I am finding a great album by ARR, and in Ravan I meet to Vintage Rehman after a decade. Shortness is a different thing as by crying for its shortness we should not ignore what great gems he has included in this. a great rahman fan nakul You are giving general statements, could you please list what makes you dislike ravan? -- Rawat -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] The price of piracy - shorter songs and shorter albums?
True, Rawat, ARR can have a say in this and I wish he would. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 5:47 AM India Time, _AJ_ wrote: (And by the way, I'm not blaming ARR for this... So nice of you not to blame ARR when he can be blamed. :-) When you are blaming everybody else, I think ARR should also share his responsibility for his inaction to do something about it. ARR has a repute now. No one can make ARR sign on dotted lines. ARR can put conditions that would popularize his music and would present the music to his fans in a better way, and producers/ directors/ rights companies will accept those terms. But he is not doing it as far as I know. -- this decision to have different versions of songs, not in different languages as that would be a genuine point, but the same song in same language in many voices, some songs in film not in CD, some songs in CD and not in film, so on -- all this actually fuels the piracy because user/ listeneres/ buyers are unsatisfied. they would say - what the hell, there are two more songs in the film that is not in CD so why bother buying incomplete CD. Genuine music buyers get worst affected as they pay full charges for the CD and still not get full music of the film. If Ud Ja rey is released in later versions of CD or DVDs, many of hard core fans would buy it again, but isn't that audio-video rights holder company cheating the music/ video buyers by making them cough up huge money many times in the name of one more songs. like gops had said once that he would (and had been) buy all collections of ARR even if they have few or even all repeat songs. I wonder if gops has made a list, and can share with us, of how many times he has bought same individual songs in different collections? -- Rawat
RE:[arr] Digest Number 8485
Hi all can any one send the airtel hello tunes code of 'raavanan' songs. Prasanna. Sent from samsung monte.
Re: [arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
But Dinesh, you are contradicting yourself. If i am not wrong you wanted to listen to tamil tracks first ? :) On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@hotmail.comwrote: Ganpy, i love this msg of u. I too agree with u. Since Ravanan got released, its been Ravan vs Ravanan. There isnt a genuine review on Ravanan as it self. People should learn to love songs despite the language --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ga...@... wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
[arr] Re: Raavan/Raavanan differences and observations.......
I feel.. Interest is not much given to Tamil version or lack of time. They(ARR-Mani) been honest of not celebrating audio release for Raavanan, as this version is not deserved. Anyway lots of thanks for VTV (ARR-Gautham) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, s_sundarr_2000 s_sundarr_2...@... wrote: My observation: Songs sound t bad in tamil. Lyrics are completely a MISFIT. Its very obvious that the tune is made and the lyrics are butchered like anything. As a tamilian I just cant digest that Mani and ARR along with Vairamuthu just literally killed, i repeat killed the language... Why on earth Mani wants to make a movie in hindi and tamil and release hindi first and then 10 days post tamil. Its very evident that the tunes only fits hindi lyrics... I cannot comment on the butchering on hindi lyrics, but TAMIL has been murdered. I can see all the singers doing alaap or singing that just need to be pronounced the way it should. Anuradha sriram modulation cracks me. Rahman as a humble request please consider TAMIL as a langauge when composing... I just cant rest back without venting my frustration...Gone are the days when tamil lyrics were predominant and meaningful compared to this dak dak dak...bak bak bak..kaata .khilli..tara mara suraa... and what not ! Hmm Enna Kodumai Sir Idhu --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sulluongroup sulluongroup@ wrote: The Tamil lyrics r the worst. After hearing Hindi Raavan listing to the Tamil version..The songs are spoiled by the Lyrics. Vairamuthu has gone v old. Hindi Raavan the Best. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Got a chance to listen to Raavanan songs online.waiting to buy the original CD Anyone notice the additional bass track in Veera in the beginning as well as the extra melodic track during the xylophone interlude? During that interlude, there's an extra counter melodic track playing in Veera that was not there in Beera. Also in the Kattu song, Shankar is singing more gammaks than what was heard by Javed Ali in the Hindi version.sounds a bit more semi classical with Carnatic style with Shankar's singing. I didn't mind Shriram's singing as much as some people's dislike, though, Rekha did a much better job. Keda Kari is a nice Carnatic counterpart to the North belt Kata Kata. ARR's range and versatility are just mindblowing. Keda Kari was a bit louder and less melodic in choral singing overall than Kata in my opinion. Kata was overall sweeter sounding to me. Slight melodic variations in Kodu Poatta compared to Thok...Benny did a respectable job in my opinion, but I liked Sukhi's version better. Karthik's song in Tamil is equally good as the Hindi version in my opinion. Shreya's singing is awesome in Tamil, a bit more expressive and better tonally than Reena's version, but almost equal in quality Great to have 2 versions of this masterpiece album!
Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
Any language that is alien to you will sound funny. You dont have to be apologetic about it. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I have no intention to insult any language , We Bangladeshiz r the only nation to have shed blood for our mother tongue !! The International Mother language is our Shaheed Dibos ...even it is celebrated in West Bangla and Indian High commision in Dhaka.So language is very important to us ..We honour each and every language !! I am just saying being an Bangali , Tamil dialogues Sounds weird ...nothing more ,nothing less...I have some of my Bangladeshi Friends in Malaysia ...they often complain that there r so many tamil people there ...they feel awkward when these tamil people talks in tamil ...it sounds so weird to US , We just don't like the Sound of tamil language ..Hindi is pretty much OK with everyone here i guess ... Ofcourse it is your or someone else's mother tongue ...and it must be sweet to you ...but when you don't understand anything of any particular language ...then things like these can happen My apologies if i have hurt anyone .. :-( On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@hotmail.comwrote: Rajib, you just insulted the Tamil language. How could u say its a horrible language? Though the Tamil that is being used in songs r actually the actual Tamil language, compared to the once being used by the Tamils in the daily conversations. If anyone uses the actual Tamil to speak to us, he will be whacked. Lol. Coz the Language is that complicated and pure. I agree Uyire is a better album than Dil Se, any day. But i prefered Jodha akhbar in Hindi compared to Tamil. Vimal, its really 'sin' not to listen to Alaipayuthey. Its by far one of ARR's strongest, solid album. The whole charm was lost in Saathiya. Do listen. I recommend it 200%. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations..i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam...that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed...also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled). so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@... To
[arr] Rahman gives Indian music tech spin
Rahman gives Indian music tech spin20 North American and European dates setBy Gary Graff, BillboardMay 5, 2010, 06:00 AM ETA. R. Rahman. (Getty)DETROIT -- Iconic Indian film score composer A.R. Rahman said he's looking forward to bringing East and West together with his upcoming The A.R. Rahamn Jai Ho Concert: The Journey Home World Tour. We wanted to get the best of both worlds -- the finest team from America and the soul of the music and the traditions of India and all that stuff, Rahman said about the tour, which begins June 11 at Nassau Coliseum on Long Island and will play at least 20 shows in North America and Europe. Staged by American creative director Amy Tinkham (Madonna, Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Paul McCartney), the two-and-a-half hour show will feature a cast of musicians, dancers and acrobats, plus changing sets and an extensive video production. What is added is a new dimension which nobody has ever seen, the Asian audience has never seen, added Rahman, who won a pair of both Academy and Grammy awards for his 2008 Slumdog Millionaire soundtrack. Normally what happens is we go and sing and there's some dancers and some kind of visual effects. But this one is so integrated, and every (musical) bar and every second is integrated with technology and stuff which moves around and it's done with so much passion. Rahman himself will be playing keyboards and singing during the show, as well as speaking to the audience to explain the meanings and creation of the songs. We're looking at a universal appeal to this, he explained. There's some songs in English, of course, but even for those that aren't you can still come and enjoy the musicality and the whole culture and colorfulness and the vibrancy of Indian stuff. That's all going to be there. Though the show is keeping him busy, Rahman is still busy working on new music. He's just finishing up his 10th soundtrack for his original employer and mentor, Rajat Kamal, and Rahman has also started work on a non-film album of original songs that will target the North American markets he conquered with Slumdog Millionaire and the single Jai Ho. It's a work in progress. Rahman reported, I've had three or four sessions already. The music is probably an extension of what 'Jai Ho' did but going more friendly in terms of English audiences. It's retaining the same kind of magic, hopefully. Rahman says he's also been approached about collaborations by most of the artists he joined for the We Are the World: 25 for Haiti single earlier this year, but I'm taking it easy. I want to finish my album first.
Re: [arr] Krishnudu's Pappu audio to release very soon
Congrats Phani. wish u agood luck !! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote: http://entertainment.oneindia.in/telugu/top-stories/2010/pappu-audio-release-050510.html Krishnudu, Subbaraju and Deepika are playing the lead in Pappu. The tagline of the film is ‘Mr. Intelligent’. Sapan Pasuparthi is directing the film and Nalla Praveen Reddy and and Nagesh Yadav under the banner Aarya Entertainment . Buzz up! The producer says, The strengths of our film is the novelty in the storyline and the comedy element. Krishnudu is playing the title role of Pappu. He is always of the opinion that he is very intelligent. As a result, he faces several consequences. The incidents that occur in his life are very interesting and entertaining. What and how Pappu faced the consequences had to be seen only on the screen. How and what kind of help the heroine did to help the hero is worth watching.There are six songs in the film. The exponents of KM Music Conservatory School belonging to AR Rahman scored tunes for our film under the musical direction of Phani Kalyan. We will soon launch the audio The producer concluded. Gundu Hanumantha Rao, Sangeetha, Surya, Shiva Reddy,Benarji,Malladi Raghava and others are in the cast. -- regards, Vithur Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links -- Cheers, Kay Kay www.kaykayphotography.com
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
I sincerely feel that RAVAN / RAAVANAN has that KILLER PUNCH / X-Factor missing. My opinion on it ! Even if tamil released b4 hindi I wud still say tamil lyrics just doesn't fit the tune. Full stop. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 5/5/2010 7:28 PM India Time, _accountsjk_ wrote: At the outset, I am a very old fan of ARR. From Roja days and still buy his CDs on the first day of release. However, Raavan for me was very ordinary. Lets be honest here - how many agree with me on the following 1. The songs sound like 'I have heard them before from ARR. It did not feel new. Yes, I am also feeling that in every song, still the songs are no outright repeat/ copy of any other previous songs. These are new songs and have their own merits. the feeling of deja vu can appear due to many reasons, one being use of the same instrument(s) or raga. If that means ARR uses one instruments and one raga only in one song ever, that will be infeasible. 2. Where are the lovely melodies? I miss the romantic, smooth ARR melodies that captivated us before Khili Rey is purely lovely melody. Ranjha Ranjha is soft and sweet. Kata Kata has Ila Arun's part as a lovely melody, behne de has good melody, so out of 6, there are 3 songs having melody. What more can I want. ARR has given many melodious songs, so many that many people fell that Khili Rey itself pales in comparison to them. songs have to fit the screenplay. If it had been a love story, then more lovely melodies were required, but as this is a goon's story, more rough-tough songs are required, so much so that Mani even chopped 2-3 songs that might have been lovely melodies. 3. Too garish and loud with no substance in some songs? When Endrendum Punnege in Tamil was released, it took us by shock. What music it was. Is there any such 'Wow factor'. I doubt. Yes, garish (what that means?) and loud, and that is a new thing by ARR in a single album. And please describe what you mean by substance. If lyrics bring substance, then lyrics of this album are great, if new sounds, arrangements bring lyrics, then behne de has such an absorbing sounds that had never been heard before. I do feel the wow factor. This is vintage rahman of mid 90s back to us. Awaiting Endhiran to see how the ARR - Sankar combination has worked things out. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe
Even behene de doesnt mean water :) I think he was referring to the themes of the respective songs. Cheers, Srini On 06-May-2010, at 4:55 PM, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Usuru is not fire. It means life.. Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Vinayakam Murugan Sent: 06:05:2010 9.02.13 am Subject: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
Re: [arr] After Rythm it's VTV!
I dont know why everyone who feels ARRs music these days lacks soul want others to accept it. Please I have no issues with your not liking his songs these days. But it is baffling to read lets be honest you have to accept hype . This is getting annoying day by day. Please we understand some of you dont like his albums. We are super okay we that. He cant satisfy everyone every single time. Get a little mature about it if you find someone praising his songs. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:32 AM, dass madetou...@yahoo.co.in wrote: After Rythm it should be VTV in his Filmography. I think so. how? The ARR magic! Rythm is the last ARR album which had ARR's magic. ARR's magic in his music can't be explained; it is meant for experience; the music speaks for itself; there is no need for promoters. After Rythm, there is not a complete ARR album which speaks for itself. Of course there are numbers here and there (Newyork Nagaram, and a few), but not a complete album (alteast 95% magical?). if you remember how you've fallen in love with his music right from Roja, you will accept this. Those are the moments! (It may be harsh; but i am not here to insult his works in this decade! Eventhough they are not having the magic, they are not ordinary scores to be created, just that the satisfaction is missing.) Before Rythm, every album is afresh and a delight to own. We just play the cassettes again and again, unitl we have the next album. No complaints at all. After Rythm, the music of any of his albums didn't speak for themselves, most of the time, we fans were kind of advocating for them; like 'you need to hear it for another two more weeks, and you will like it', 'hey, he has tried something new which is not meant for current generation but will be appreciated in the future', 'i didn't like it initially, but tried hearing it after one year it sounded really good, so try the same', 'you need to have some extraordinary musical senses to understand his music', etc. May be the albums have extraordinary music but they are liked only by a limited number of fans. (Remember, Roja to Rythm has extraordinary music and at the same time liked by everybody). I think if you hear any album for two or more weeks, your mind will accept it and you will start humming it, but you won't feel the refreshness. (What's the need to listen to it?) What happend to him? Where is his magic? Is he saturated? Or am i getting old? Is it becuase of abundance of his kind of music composers? Is there any problem with my senses to capture it, or has he tried something which is meant for future. No clue. That too for a decade. Still unanswered. I am a music fan who has no idea about technicalities of the music creation. I don't want to know any of those technical details in order to enjoy the music. It just has to make us silent and listen to it. It has to renovate us to keep us going. ARR just came in and provided that refreshness (at a time when the music industry started becoming monotonous). I just need the same experience he has given us in the past. I was a bit of disappointed everytime an album released after Rythm. But I(we) waited for his return, since he is capabable of returning the magical experiance. Here comes 2010, here comes VTV, here comes his magic! He is back! This is what we are waiting for. Just play it and listen it. You will be renovated. Absolutely no complaints. Everybody loves the music. (You can refer to the VTV related posts in this group; 95% agree it is awesome). The BGM is perfect and fits the movie. Now it becomes close to our heart. Thanks to Gowtham! I know people, who are not anybody's fans, after hearing 'Hosanna and Omana Pennae', say, 'kaetka kaetka puthusa iruka; he still has the same magic even after 15 years'. This is the same we have experienced in the 90s with his music. And, this is important for his eternal success. We don't want him to give any less of what he has already gifted to us. (Like you want to see sachin scoring 100 in every match). I don't want people to fail, either side! Now, I have retained the hope that he will give us more such gifts. Now, I am happy and going back to listen VTV. Thanks for reading! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
To Alll the nagtive reviewers the right place for you guys in Anu mailk and Preetham forums...get out of here, Admins...please dont block this mail... high time, some garbage should be cleared --- On Thu, 5/6/10, nakul gupta nakgup2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: nakul gupta nakgup2...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:02 AM hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . a great rahman fan nakul
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
hmm, so he might be a fan of blue? good enough as long as he likes some ARR album. -- Rawat On 5/6/2010 3:53 PM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote: Rawat, Now you know how it feels for us when you say Blue has no soul. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com mailto:vsra...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/6/2010 8:02 AM India Time, _nakul gupta_ wrote: hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. could someone please quote the authentic version where and if ARR said that doesnt want to give music in hindi films? I can't believe that ARR will ever say or even think that. India, Tamil, Hindi are ARR's root, how can he leave his roots. So, withholding any further comments till I get to an authentic version of the same. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . i have said enough about blue, but saying that ravan shows ARR's disinterest in hindi music is a baseless statement for me. Raavan I am finding a great album by ARR, and in Ravan I meet to Vintage Rehman after a decade. Shortness is a different thing as by crying for its shortness we should not ignore what great gems he has included in this. a great rahman fan nakul You are giving general statements, could you please list what makes you dislike ravan? -- Rawat
[arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
People should learn to love songs despite the language I just have to LOL with that statement coming from you.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: But Dinesh, you are contradicting yourself. If i am not wrong you wanted to listen to tamil tracks first ? :) On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@...wrote: Ganpy, i love this msg of u. I too agree with u. Since Ravanan got released, its been Ravan vs Ravanan. There isnt a genuine review on Ravanan as it self. People should learn to love songs despite the language --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ganpy@ wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
RE: [arr] Krishnudu's Pappu audio to release very soon
Waiting Fani Regards, Rajith Ramnivas To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: vith...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 12:19:53 +0530 Subject: [arr] Krishnudu's Pappu audio to release very soon http://entertainment.oneindia.in/telugu/top-stories/2010/pappu-audio-release-050510.html Krishnudu, Subbaraju and Deepika are playing the lead in Pappu. The tagline of the film is ‘Mr. Intelligent’. Sapan Pasuparthi is directing the film and Nalla Praveen Reddy and and Nagesh Yadav under the banner Aarya Entertainment . Buzz up! The producer says, The strengths of our film is the novelty in the storyline and the comedy element. Krishnudu is playing the title role of Pappu. He is always of the opinion that he is very intelligent. As a result, he faces several consequences. The incidents that occur in his life are very interesting and entertaining. What and how Pappu faced the consequences had to be seen only on the screen. How and what kind of help the heroine did to help the hero is worth watching.There are six songs in the film. The exponents of KM Music Conservatory School belonging to AR Rahman scored tunes for our film under the musical direction of Phani Kalyan. We will soon launch the audio The producer concluded. Gundu Hanumantha Rao, Sangeetha, Surya, Shiva Reddy,Benarji,Malladi Raghava and others are in the cast. -- regards, Vithur Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
Gomz, not at all. I clearly stated that i want to give the respect to Mani-ARR-VM combo. i dun see how is that linked to the topic here. Im listening to Ravan songs now as well. I did not post a msg comparing Ravan and Ravanan songs in details... My whole point here is no one is giving Ravanan a review for the album as it self. They all r comparing Ravan and Ravanan in each Ravanan review. Im expecting a geunine review in the sense a person's scope concentrated in Ravanan alone. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: But Dinesh, you are contradicting yourself. If i am not wrong you wanted to listen to tamil tracks first ? :) On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@...wrote: Ganpy, i love this msg of u. I too agree with u. Since Ravanan got released, its been Ravan vs Ravanan. There isnt a genuine review on Ravanan as it self. People should learn to love songs despite the language --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ganpy@ wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
I'd written this post up but for some reason it hasn't come through but since this is a relevant thread (discussion abt comparing same albums in different languages), I shall paste it here. This thing about lyrics. Well I am one who firmly believes that music has no language. I have fallen for all of AR’s hindi work without understanding what the lyrics meant and only out of curiosity do I go and read up translations much later. But there are some songs for which I still don’t know the meaning to. For eg Jashne Bahara- probably the most played melody from recent AR albums for me. I fell in love with it when I saw the promo for the first time. I know the hindi lyrics by heart now but haven’t got a clue as to what it means but it won’t stop me from picking it over a tamil song. So music for me really has no language. And perhaps for most of you as well. What about all the beautiful classical music pieces we’ve heard from the past. The most heart wrenching pieces from Bach, Hayden, Beethovan, Mozart, Schubert, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Brahms, Wagner etc. The many operas in French, German, Italian and many other languages we are not fluent in.What draws them to us? Music. But when you are given two tunes that are largely the same with two sets of lyrics with one being your mother tongue, one cannot but be drawn to pick out the difference and perhaps a favourite. Especially when you have Gulzar and Vairamuthu. My grasp of hindi is , well let me say “thoda thoda”(!) but having read some wonderful, in-depth translations here and elsewhere for some lovely AR-Gulzar gems, I have developed a deep respect for Gulzar. One song that comes to mind instantly is Chalka Re. Loved what he did there! For me what he writes is poetry, just like Vairamuthu. It’s like they transport me to a different era/world. Behene De in Raavan - my fav track in terms of lyrics. Loving every line in this song- it's deep. It's emotional and it pulls you straight into Raavan's mind. I haven't been able to absorb the lyrics of the other songs to the extent that I can remember the meaning of each line when I play the song (like Behene De) but I am getting there. Behene De however is my second favourite in the album in terms of the entire package (music+lyrics). Probably because I made too much of an effort to understand the lyrics that somehwere I got a bit tired of making the effort. As for Usire pogudhe, I have fallen truly, madly, deeply in love! The lyrics are Raw and it's been a while since I heard something like this. Some lines that drew me on the first hearing : Maamen thavikkiren madi pichai thaadi en manikuyile Akkarai cheemayil nee irundhum, ai viral theendida nenaikuthadi Akkini palam endru therinchirunthum adikadi naaku thudikuthadi en kattaiyum oru naal saayalam en kaanula un mugam poguma Beautiful! I am loving the dialect and the depth in these lines. Amazing, Vairamuthu! Genius!It easily makes Usire pogudhey my fav Raavanan track in terms of both music and lyrics by miles! Love Love Love it! Too short! (I know what you mean now, Chord!) Ranjha Ranjha - I am absolutely in love with and haven't got a clue as to what they are on about for most part of the song. But strangely it's my favourite song in Raavan and I can't get enough of it. I like the rawness Rekha brings to it and the contrasting soothing voice in Javed Ali.It's been on loop since day 1. everyone has a special song in a ARR-Mani album and this one is my special song in Raavan. As for Kaatu Sirruki - I think Anuradha and Shankar have changed the flavour of the song slightly. I find an extra portion of rawness from both singers especially Shankar. Having gotten used to having Javed sing his parts like a dainty ballerina, I am struggling to adjust to Shankar's hard ways. Anuradha is one of my fav singers and I am glad AR used her here. Oddly I really like what she has done here (I see I am in the minority here) and also Shankar despite his different take on the song but that's the advantage of having the same song sung by different singers- they bring different packages to the table. Vocally, I am glad we have Anuradha and Shankar singing for us but what has let me down in Kaatu sirukki is the lyrics- not the contents but that the lyrics somehow seemed forced to fit the tune in some of the major lines in the song. For eg yar kaatu chirukki iva in the first line. It gets repeated throughout the song reminding us that these songs were written for another language. It's a distraction. Kata kata - what a track ! Power power power! And the lyrics are awesome too (having read through Rawat's translations a few times). It's my third fav track in the album. It’s my Veerapandiya Kottaiyile equivalent in Raavan. Love it. Keda Kari- I don’t how AR does it but when I heard this one I could relate it instantly to a southy wedding. After listening to Kata Kata so many times I
[arr] Rediff reviews Raavanan - Go for It! (3.5 / 5)
http://movies.rediff.com/review/2010/may/06/south-tamil-music-review-ravanan.htm Go for it!The wait is over. Oscar-winner A R Rahman [ Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=a+r+rahman] is back again, this time, joining hands with ace director Mani Ratnam to deliver one of 2010's most anticipated albums: *Ravanan*. Ever since *Roja [ Images http://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=roja ],* the hype surrounding the two veterans has been intense, and it's culminated with * Ravanan*. The Hindi versionhttp://movies.rediff.com/report/2010/apr/26/review-music-raavan.htmwas releasedhttp://movies.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/apr/26/slide-show-1-raavan-music-launch.htmwith much fanfare on April 24, while the Tamil version has quietly reached the stores on the May 5. With famed lyricist Kaviperararu Vairamuthu penning the songs, here's a look at what the album has to offer: With strange and wonderful chants, grunts and groans starts *Veera Veera*, then to morph slowly into an enthusiastic, joyful celebration, rendered by Vijay Prakash with gay abandon, to the accompaniment of chickens clucking and other barnyard sounds. Its even better to listen to him sing * Ramanthein...* with the Southern lilt, while the background instrumental arrangement raises the song from just another peppy number to something with instant appeal. Even more intriguing is the blurring of lines between the characters of Rama and Ravana -- and that it's been written by Mani Ratnam and A R Rahman. It's brisk, catchy, and with Keerthi Sagathia and Mustafa Kutoane providing support, you're not quite prepared to let go of its freshness. Almost like a king ascending his throne begins *Usure Pogudhe* -- slowly, exquisitely, taking its own time. Karthik begins melodiously, touching the right note of lament and longing. Though certain notes do remind you of another classic number, *En Uyire*, there are touches of beauty that cannot be denied. Of particular merit is the violin interlude: indescribably beautiful, and plumbing the depths of yearning. Vairamuthu is at his best here; the words complement the tune very well, telling of the hopeless anguish that accompanies a wish that cannot be fulfilled. Score one for the maestro. Back to the faintly tribal feel that lines most of the numbers but Benny Dayal's *Kodu Potta* is far more ferocious, in-your-face and down to earth. It's men-of-the-soil vs the landlords; the lyrics are harsh, choppy as they're intended to be. The instrumental interlude has a distinct North Indian flavour to it, something that's compounded by the violin segment that follows later. Yes, it's appealing, particularly in the last moments when it rises to a towering crescendo but not in the instant fashion of the previous two. This number's principal attraction is its lyrics -- sharp, earthy, and rousing. Like a woman cackling madly begins *Kattu Chirukki* and its takes you a moment to understand Anuradha Sriram's affected singing (fortunately, the helpful lyric booklet assists in deciphering her words). Shankar Mahadevan [ Images http://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=shankar+mahadevan ] is, thankfully, at his lucid best; he's clear and brings an emotion that's pleasant to listen (almost as if he's compensating). Melody-wise, here again, there's the faint trace of longing and touches of romance, aided amply by the lyrics. *Kalvare* has a very different feel from the rest -- not just in the fact that its almost completely romantic, and doesn't have any of the ominous and earthy touches of the previous numbers, but also in its composition: its not colloquial, is softer and obviously indicates an existing romantic relationship. What can you say of Shreya Ghoshal's [ Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=shreya+ghoshal] voice except that it's melodious, as usual? You get a sense of *deja vu*, as you listen to this number: snatches of Jodha Akbar's * Jashn-e-Bahara*, yes. The number is brief, and mildly appealing. Back to the basics with a bang -- that's Benny Dhayal, Bhagyaraj, Rayhanah and Tanvi Shah ganging up to bring the thunderous *Kedakkari*. Perhaps this number's even more raw than the others; it's certainly an out-an-out celebration, but done with more swear-worthy references to gawking new husbands and rustic wives. Again, there's a distinctly North Indian flavour to the number. The beat, however, takes your mind off such things. It's not scintillating, but has its appeal. Its always been said that an A R Rahman album takes more than a couple of listens to sink into and that holds good for *Ravanan* as well. The songs are geared more towards specific situations, emotions and characters; undoubtedly, their appeal is bound to the movie itself. Nevertheless, the range and depth of the numbers do impress you on repeated listens. A couple of numbers, you feel, don't scale the heights of brilliance; the transmutation from Hindi to Thamizh is obvious, and rather jarring at
Re: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
Actually Gulzar does touch upon it with references to Chingari, but I was referring to the main overlying theme. I love both versions :) Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:10 PM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
[arr] Raavan available in Dubai
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Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
for those who r telling tamil language Sounds weird... .. dont treat tamil as a backward languange...its the one of the oldest languages in the world ...for RAHMANIACS Music is the only language .dont dispute tamil language... if raavanan music had released earlier than ravan then Raavanan will hear nice to us --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 11:18 AM Any language that is alien to you will sound funny. You dont have to be apologetic about it. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail. com wrote: I have no intention to insult any language , We Bangladeshiz r the only nation to have shed blood for our mother tongue !! The International Mother language is our Shaheed Dibos ...even it is celebrated in West Bangla and Indian High commision in Dhaka.So language is very important to us ..We honour each and every language !! I am just saying being an Bangali , Tamil dialogues Sounds weird ...nothing more ,nothing less...I have some of my Bangladeshi Friends in Malaysia ...they often complain that there r so many tamil people there ...they feel awkward when these tamil people talks in tamil ...it sounds so weird to US , We just don't like the Sound of tamil language ..Hindi is pretty much OK with everyone here i guess ... Ofcourse it is your or someone else's mother tongue ...and it must be sweet to you ...but when you don't understand anything of any particular language ...then things like these can happen My apologies if i have hurt anyone .. :-( On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.scaran@ hotmail.com wrote: Rajib, you just insulted the Tamil language. How could u say its a horrible language? Though the Tamil that is being used in songs r actually the actual Tamil language, compared to the once being used by the Tamils in the daily conversations. If anyone uses the actual Tamil to speak to us, he will be whacked. Lol. Coz the Language is that complicated and pure. I agree Uyire is a better album than Dil Se, any day. But i prefered Jodha akhbar in Hindi compared to Tamil. Vimal, its really 'sin' not to listen to Alaipayuthey. Its by far one of ARR's strongest, solid album. The whole charm was lost in Saathiya. Do listen. I recommend it 200%. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@.. . wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations. .i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam... that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, vimaljk vimaljk@
Re: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe
The entire lyrics in this song portraits a man's desire for his loved one...Some of the lines are so bold that you can easily relate it to fire... Agni pazham endru therinchirunthum Adikadi naaku thudikuthadi On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:25 PM, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Usuru is not fire. It means life.. Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Vinayakam Murugan Sent: 06:05:2010 9.02.13 am Subject: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
[arr] Re: Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
Could not get this discussion. Does it mean Tamil version is not about behne de (flowing with water) ?? What does Usuru Poguthe mean? And also how this song is about fire?? can anyone elabore on this?? /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD
absolutely.me 2! --- On Thu, 5/6/10, mb4zap® moinboss4...@yahoo.com wrote: From: mb4zap® moinboss4...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 4:25 PM count me in... From: hiten shah hiten.khopoli@ gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 12:11:26 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Petition to add unreleased Raavan songs on the CD M in too On 5/6/10, Rivjot riv...@yahoo. com wrote: Are these 'petitions' really noticed by someone? In any case, I am with you guys; needs these songs on CD!! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Perhaps hoping for the Asha and Sonu songs is a bit far fetched, but if the Richa Sharma version of Ranjha Ranjha is in the film, WHY HASN'T IT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CD? COME ON! Also, Rahman's Udja Re should be in later CD versions too. Guys, please, please form a voice, a lobby to get at least those 2 songs on later CDs.Ranjha Ranjha Richa Sharma version (which may be the unplugged version that Bollywood Hungama previously had on their website) and the ARR sung Udja Re. Could we please organize a petition, a voice, that we realy, really want these songs to be included in all 3 language version CDs in later batches? PLEASE?? ? ? I really feel strongly about this. If enough of us express a strong desire about this, maybe the probability will be raised that at least these 2 songs will be included in later Raavan/Raavanan/ Vilain CDs. Come on! Let's organize something!
Re: [arr] Re: Raavan/Raavanan differences and observations.......
Wow, What a mind reader. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Vasanth rhythm.ofl...@live.com wrote: I feel.. Interest is not much given to Tamil version or lack of time. They(ARR-Mani) been honest of not celebrating audio release for Raavanan, as this version is not deserved. Anyway lots of thanks for VTV (ARR-Gautham) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, s_sundarr_2000 s_sundarr_2...@... wrote: My observation: Songs sound t bad in tamil. Lyrics are completely a MISFIT. Its very obvious that the tune is made and the lyrics are butchered like anything. As a tamilian I just cant digest that Mani and ARR along with Vairamuthu just literally killed, i repeat killed the language... Why on earth Mani wants to make a movie in hindi and tamil and release hindi first and then 10 days post tamil. Its very evident that the tunes only fits hindi lyrics... I cannot comment on the butchering on hindi lyrics, but TAMIL has been murdered. I can see all the singers doing alaap or singing that just need to be pronounced the way it should. Anuradha sriram modulation cracks me. Rahman as a humble request please consider TAMIL as a langauge when composing... I just cant rest back without venting my frustration...Gone are the days when tamil lyrics were predominant and meaningful compared to this dak dak dak...bak bak bak..kaata .khilli..tara mara suraa... and what not ! Hmm Enna Kodumai Sir Idhu --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, sulluongroup sulluongroup@ wrote: The Tamil lyrics r the worst. After hearing Hindi Raavan listing to the Tamil version..The songs are spoiled by the Lyrics. Vairamuthu has gone v old. Hindi Raavan the Best. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Got a chance to listen to Raavanan songs online.waiting to buy the original CD Anyone notice the additional bass track in Veera in the beginning as well as the extra melodic track during the xylophone interlude? During that interlude, there's an extra counter melodic track playing in Veera that was not there in Beera. Also in the Kattu song, Shankar is singing more gammaks than what was heard by Javed Ali in the Hindi version.sounds a bit more semi classical with Carnatic style with Shankar's singing. I didn't mind Shriram's singing as much as some people's dislike, though, Rekha did a much better job. Keda Kari is a nice Carnatic counterpart to the North belt Kata Kata. ARR's range and versatility are just mindblowing. Keda Kari was a bit louder and less melodic in choral singing overall than Kata in my opinion. Kata was overall sweeter sounding to me. Slight melodic variations in Kodu Poatta compared to Thok...Benny did a respectable job in my opinion, but I liked Sukhi's version better. Karthik's song in Tamil is equally good as the Hindi version in my opinion. Shreya's singing is awesome in Tamil, a bit more expressive and better tonally than Reena's version, but almost equal in quality Great to have 2 versions of this masterpiece album!
Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
Exactly! I make fun of my Bengali friends when they talk in Bengali and vice versa. But somewhere, there is something that connects them all. From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 12:18:54 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata Any language that is alien to you will sound funny. You dont have to be apologetic about it. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail. com wrote: I have no intention to insult any language , We Bangladeshiz r the only nation to have shed blood for our mother tongue !! The International Mother language is our Shaheed Dibos ...even it is celebrated in West Bangla and Indian High commision in Dhaka.So language is very important to us ..We honour each and every language !! I am just saying being an Bangali , Tamil dialogues Sounds weird ...nothing more ,nothing less...I have some of my Bangladeshi Friends in Malaysia ...they often complain that there r so many tamil people there ...they feel awkward when these tamil people talks in tamil ...it sounds so weird to US , We just don't like the Sound of tamil language ..Hindi is pretty much OK with everyone here i guess ... Ofcourse it is your or someone else's mother tongue ...and it must be sweet to you ...but when you don't understand anything of any particular language ...then things like these can happen My apologies if i have hurt anyone .. :-( On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.scaran@ hotmail.com wrote: Rajib, you just insulted the Tamil language. How could u say its a horrible language? Though the Tamil that is being used in songs r actually the actual Tamil language, compared to the once being used by the Tamils in the daily conversations. If anyone uses the actual Tamil to speak to us, he will be whacked. Lol. Coz the Language is that complicated and pure. I agree Uyire is a better album than Dil Se, any day. But i prefered Jodha akhbar in Hindi compared to Tamil. Vimal, its really 'sin' not to listen to Alaipayuthey. Its by far one of ARR's strongest, solid album. The whole charm was lost in Saathiya. Do listen. I recommend it 200%. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@.. . wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vima...@... wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations. .i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam... that's all i know how to speak/understand --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Then what did you mean exactly? What you said sounded pretty straightforward to me, no matter what words you used. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: nonothing like that...poor choice of words on my part --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: Why are you so bent on one version beating another? --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: has more of a flow to it and not disjointed.. .also doesn't sound as much of a retread of Azeem o Shan like Kata Kata (Azeem O Shan is so amazing that any song that comes near its path will be humbled) . so...just have to see if Kattai Sirukku edges out Ranja...and Raavana will beat Raavan
Re: [arr] After Rythm it's VTV!
It is a gathering of ARR fans, so if someone criticizes a song or album, there are many of us who will express their views why they like that song/ album. Problem is there when some particular people praise some album/ song endlessly (like some did with blue), that might be an attempt to create a hype or an attempt to get noticed by ARR who is said to sometimes read the posts here. So such appreciation should be seen more analytically by old timer members who have a responsibility to maintain the objectivity of the group. But yeah, one must give reasons for liking or not liking some song/ album, otherwise I like it and I don't like it don't serve any wider purpose. We should prompt such writers to give specific reasons for their views. -- Rawat On 5/6/2010 4:54 PM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote: I dont know why everyone who feels ARRs music these days lacks soul want others to accept it. Please I have no issues with your not liking his songs these days. But it is baffling to read lets be honest you have to accept hype . This is getting annoying day by day. Please we understand some of you dont like his albums. We are super okay we that. He cant satisfy everyone every single time. Get a little mature about it if you find someone praising his songs. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:32 AM, dass madetou...@yahoo.co.in mailto:madetou...@yahoo.co.in wrote: After Rythm it should be VTV in his Filmography. I think so. how? The ARR magic! Rythm is the last ARR album which had ARR's magic. ARR's magic in his music can't be explained; it is meant for experience; the music speaks for itself; there is no need for promoters. After Rythm, there is not a complete ARR album which speaks for itself. Of course there are numbers here and there (Newyork Nagaram, and a few), but not a complete album (alteast 95% magical?). if you remember how you've fallen in love with his music right from Roja, you will accept this. Those are the moments! (It may be harsh; but i am not here to insult his works in this decade! Eventhough they are not having the magic, they are not ordinary scores to be created, just that the satisfaction is missing.) Before Rythm, every album is afresh and a delight to own. We just play the cassettes again and again, unitl we have the next album. No complaints at all. After Rythm, the music of any of his albums didn't speak for themselves, most of the time, we fans were kind of advocating for them; like 'you need to hear it for another two more weeks, and you will like it', 'hey, he has tried something new which is not meant for current generation but will be appreciated in the future', 'i didn't like it initially, but tried hearing it after one year it sounded really good, so try the same', 'you need to have some extraordinary musical senses to understand his music', etc. May be the albums have extraordinary music but they are liked only by a limited number of fans. (Remember, Roja to Rythm has extraordinary music and at the same time liked by everybody). I think if you hear any album for two or more weeks, your mind will accept it and you will start humming it, but you won't feel the refreshness. (What's the need to listen to it?) What happend to him? Where is his magic? Is he saturated? Or am i getting old? Is it becuase of abundance of his kind of music composers? Is there any problem with my senses to capture it, or has he tried something which is meant for future. No clue. That too for a decade. Still unanswered. I am a music fan who has no idea about technicalities of the music creation. I don't want to know any of those technical details in order to enjoy the music. It just has to make us silent and listen to it. It has to renovate us to keep us going. ARR just came in and provided that refreshness (at a time when the music industry started becoming monotonous). I just need the same experience he has given us in the past. I was a bit of disappointed everytime an album released after Rythm. But I(we) waited for his return, since he is capabable of returning the magical experiance. Here comes 2010, here comes VTV, here comes his magic! He is back! This is what we are waiting for. Just play it and listen it. You will be renovated. Absolutely no complaints. Everybody loves the music. (You can refer to the VTV related posts in this group; 95% agree it is awesome). The BGM is perfect and fits the movie. Now it becomes close to our heart. Thanks to Gowtham! I know people, who are not anybody's fans, after hearing 'Hosanna and Omana Pennae', say, 'kaetka kaetka puthusa iruka; he still has the same magic even after 15 years'. This is the same we have experienced in the 90s with his music. And, this is important for
Re: [arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
Very well said, Indmov. VM does give it a rustic feel. I am loving both versions. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Indmov Buff indmovb...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd written this post up but for some reason it hasn't come through but since this is a relevant thread (discussion abt comparing same albums in different languages), I shall paste it here. This thing about lyrics. Well I am one who firmly believes that music has no language. I have fallen for all of AR’s hindi work without understanding what the lyrics meant and only out of curiosity do I go and read up translations much later. But there are some songs for which I still don’t know the meaning to. For eg Jashne Bahara- probably the most played melody from recent AR albums for me. I fell in love with it when I saw the promo for the first time. I know the hindi lyrics by heart now but haven’t got a clue as to what it means but it won’t stop me from picking it over a tamil song. So music for me really has no language. And perhaps for most of you as well. What about all the beautiful classical music pieces we’ve heard from the past. The most heart wrenching pieces from Bach, Hayden, Beethovan, Mozart, Schubert, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Brahms, Wagner etc. The many operas in French, German, Italian and many other languages we are not fluent in.What draws them to us? Music. But when you are given two tunes that are largely the same with two sets of lyrics with one being your mother tongue, one cannot but be drawn to pick out the difference and perhaps a favourite. Especially when you have Gulzar and Vairamuthu. My grasp of hindi is , well let me say “thoda thoda”(!) but having read some wonderful, in-depth translations here and elsewhere for some lovely AR-Gulzar gems, I have developed a deep respect for Gulzar. One song that comes to mind instantly is Chalka Re. Loved what he did there! For me what he writes is poetry, just like Vairamuthu. It’s like they transport me to a different era/world. Behene De in Raavan - my fav track in terms of lyrics. Loving every line in this song- it's deep. It's emotional and it pulls you straight into Raavan's mind. I haven't been able to absorb the lyrics of the other songs to the extent that I can remember the meaning of each line when I play the song (like Behene De) but I am getting there. Behene De however is my second favourite in the album in terms of the entire package (music+lyrics). Probably because I made too much of an effort to understand the lyrics that somehwere I got a bit tired of making the effort. As for Usire pogudhe, I have fallen truly, madly, deeply in love! The lyrics are Raw and it's been a while since I heard something like this. Some lines that drew me on the first hearing : Maamen thavikkiren madi pichai thaadi en manikuyile Akkarai cheemayil nee irundhum, ai viral theendida nenaikuthadi Akkini palam endru therinchirunthum adikadi naaku thudikuthadi en kattaiyum oru naal saayalam en kaanula un mugam poguma Beautiful! I am loving the dialect and the depth in these lines. Amazing, Vairamuthu! Genius!It easily makes Usire pogudhey my fav Raavanan track in terms of both music and lyrics by miles! Love Love Love it! Too short! (I know what you mean now, Chord!) Ranjha Ranjha - I am absolutely in love with and haven't got a clue as to what they are on about for most part of the song. But strangely it's my favourite song in Raavan and I can't get enough of it. I like the rawness Rekha brings to it and the contrasting soothing voice in Javed Ali.It's been on loop since day 1. everyone has a special song in a ARR-Mani album and this one is my special song in Raavan. As for Kaatu Sirruki - I think Anuradha and Shankar have changed the flavour of the song slightly. I find an extra portion of rawness from both singers especially Shankar. Having gotten used to having Javed sing his parts like a dainty ballerina, I am struggling to adjust to Shankar's hard ways. Anuradha is one of my fav singers and I am glad AR used her here. Oddly I really like what she has done here (I see I am in the minority here) and also Shankar despite his different take on the song but that's the advantage of having the same song sung by different singers- they bring different packages to the table. Vocally, I am glad we have Anuradha and Shankar singing for us but what has let me down in Kaatu sirukki is the lyrics- not the contents but that the lyrics somehow seemed forced to fit the tune in some of the major lines in the song. For eg yar kaatu chirukki iva in the first line. It gets repeated throughout the song reminding us that these songs were written for another language. It's a distraction. Kata kata - what a track ! Power power power! And the lyrics are awesome too (having read through Rawat's translations
Re: [arr] After Rythm it's VTV!
I am glad VTV has had this sort of effect on those who thought Rahman's magic was lost. Truly says that the Rahman-Gautham combo are here to stay, given that it has satisfied the entire spectrum of music lovers, despite being bigger fans of other composers/genres. I couldn't connect to Rythm for some reason. I am definitely in the minority here, I think. From: dass madetou...@yahoo.co.in To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 7:02:59 Subject: [arr] After Rythm it's VTV! After Rythm it should be VTV in his Filmography. I think so. how? The ARR magic! Rythm is the last ARR album which had ARR's magic. ARR's magic in his music can't be explained; it is meant for experience; the music speaks for itself; there is no need for promoters. After Rythm, there is not a complete ARR album which speaks for itself. Of course there are numbers here and there (Newyork Nagaram, and a few), but not a complete album (alteast 95% magical?). if you remember how you've fallen in love with his music right from Roja, you will accept this. Those are the moments! (It may be harsh; but i am not here to insult his works in this decade! Eventhough they are not having the magic, they are not ordinary scores to be created, just that the satisfaction is missing.) Before Rythm, every album is afresh and a delight to own. We just play the cassettes again and again, unitl we have the next album. No complaints at all. After Rythm, the music of any of his albums didn't speak for themselves, most of the time, we fans were kind of advocating for them; like 'you need to hear it for another two more weeks, and you will like it', 'hey, he has tried something new which is not meant for current generation but will be appreciated in the future', 'i didn't like it initially, but tried hearing it after one year it sounded really good, so try the same', 'you need to have some extraordinary musical senses to understand his music', etc. May be the albums have extraordinary music but they are liked only by a limited number of fans. (Remember, Roja to Rythm has extraordinary music and at the same time liked by everybody). I think if you hear any album for two or more weeks, your mind will accept it and you will start humming it, but you won't feel the refreshness. (What's the need to listen to it?) What happend to him? Where is his magic? Is he saturated? Or am i getting old? Is it becuase of abundance of his kind of music composers? Is there any problem with my senses to capture it, or has he tried something which is meant for future. No clue. That too for a decade. Still unanswered. I am a music fan who has no idea about technicalities of the music creation. I don't want to know any of those technical details in order to enjoy the music. It just has to make us silent and listen to it. It has to renovate us to keep us going. ARR just came in and provided that refreshness (at a time when the music industry started becoming monotonous). I just need the same experience he has given us in the past. I was a bit of disappointed everytime an album released after Rythm. But I(we) waited for his return, since he is capabable of returning the magical experiance. Here comes 2010, here comes VTV, here comes his magic! He is back! This is what we are waiting for. Just play it and listen it. You will be renovated. Absolutely no complaints. Everybody loves the music. (You can refer to the VTV related posts in this group; 95% agree it is awesome). The BGM is perfect and fits the movie. Now it becomes close to our heart. Thanks to Gowtham! I know people, who are not anybody's fans, after hearing 'Hosanna and Omana Pennae', say, 'kaetka kaetka puthusa iruka; he still has the same magic even after 15 years'. This is the same we have experienced in the 90s with his music. And, this is important for his eternal success. We don't want him to give any less of what he has already gifted to us. (Like you want to see sachin scoring 100 in every match). I don't want people to fail, either side! Now, I have retained the hope that he will give us more such gifts. Now, I am happy and going back to listen VTV. Thanks for reading!
[arr] ARR's latest FB update !!
http://www.facebook.com/arrahman?v=wallstory_fbid=118710068150986 http://www.facebook.com/arrahman?v=wallstory_fbid=118710068150986 [image: A.R. Rahman] http://www.facebook.com/arrahman?ref=mf A.R. Rahman http://www.facebook.com/arrahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe
Yes, I was referring to the themes. Thanks , Srini. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Srini Santhanam saint.si...@gmail.comwrote: Even behene de doesnt mean water :) I think he was referring to the themes of the respective songs. Cheers, Srini On 06-May-2010, at 4:55 PM, ajay_baskar2...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Usuru is not fire. It means life.. Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Vinayakam Murugan Sent: 06:05:2010 9.02.13 am Subject: [arr] Behne De Usuru Poguthe Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
[arr] Keda Keda Kari...
Wow!...So nice to hear such funny, rural song after a long time...It reminds me of those moments we had during Kizhakku cheemayile...Takes you straight to the streets of a village...Particularly these lines are too funny! Anga vantha aada meiykka thaane mappillai vanthaaga Kaala maadu Kaara pasuvum kaati vecheega, Athuga poatta saani alla thaane ponna pudichirukkoam -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
Even if we don't agree with their views, we have a responsibility to protect their freedom of expression that is guaranteed to them by our constitution. Terming them some other personality's fan and having some hidden agenda is an over reaction dear. We all know who are old timers, regular poster here, if we see new names they might also be genuine fans who have yet to let the album grow on them. But, if they disappear after posting one negative post, they did have a hidden agenda to hurt ARR fans here. So, those of you critics who are genuine ARR fans, please keep on posting more of your views, that way we will be able to recognize you as regulars here. -- Rawat On 5/6/2010 6:08 PM India Time, _Anil Kumar_ wrote: To Alll the nagtive reviewers the right place for you guys in Anu mailk and Preetham forums...get out of here, Admins...please dont block this mail... high time, some garbage should be cleared --- On *Thu, 5/6/10, nakul gupta /nakgup2...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: nakul gupta nakgup2...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:02 AM hi I am from jaipur ,rajasthan and a great fan of arr i was got hurt when i read in todays paper that arr sir doesnt want to give music in hindi films and is focusing in hollywood. I think arr sir last two hindi albums blue and ravan clearly shows his disinterest for hindi music , i am very sad to say but he is not giving music from his soul and we here in north are very much missing the vintage rahman somebody please tell rahman sir that plz dont neglect indian music . a great rahman fan nakul
[arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
AJ, u dont know enough about me to even comment on and about me. I guess i shall LOL at u for that. Pitiful soul u r. Lol! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: People should learn to love songs despite the language I just have to LOL with that statement coming from you.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: But Dinesh, you are contradicting yourself. If i am not wrong you wanted to listen to tamil tracks first ? :) On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.scaran@wrote: Ganpy, i love this msg of u. I too agree with u. Since Ravanan got released, its been Ravan vs Ravanan. There isnt a genuine review on Ravanan as it self. People should learn to love songs despite the language --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ganpy@ wrote: Why should anyone really try to compare the 2 versions and pass judgement as to which one is better? I think an attempt to do a comparison is an insult to everyone involved. Right from Mani to ARR to Gulzar to Vairamuthu. Period. Remember, barring a majority of this group members and may be a few thousand other listeners, the real target listeners for these 2 versions are respective regional listeners who will never listen to any other version(s) except the one in their regional language. -Ganpy. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !!
Oh dear. Wishing her a speedy recovery. From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:05:34 Subject: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !! http://www.facebook .com/arrahman? v=wallstory_fbid=11871006 8150986 A.R. Rahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !!
Ohhh... Goodness.May God blesses her health and she recovers faster... Nothing will happen to ARR and his family. Such blessed people. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Oh dear. Wishing her a speedy recovery. From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:05:34 Subject: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !! http://www.facebook .com/arrahman? v=wallstory_fbid=11871006 8150986 A.R. Rahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] What is in a Music Review?
Very Well said Emmanuel. Straight into the Bird's Eye. Kalyan K. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:55 AM, myown_niche myown_ni...@yahoo.co.inwrote: There have been instances where many said they hated Sivaji, loved Azhagiya Tamizh Magan, Jai ho not his best, Blue didn't have soul, Raavan is too technical and all that. An many had various other opinions too. These all indicate just one thing. Appreciating music is personal. Very personal. For me, I never claim which one is best from ARR. Such a discussion is very much futile. For a person with a western music inclination, he would like scores which falls into that template. He/she may not be able to appreciate a soundtrack like Vandicholai Chinnarasu or a Kizhakku Cheemayile. So if one loves to listen to some earthy Indian songs, one may get disappointed if he/she hears a soundtrack such as Boys. So my conclusion is just this. The palette of ARR's music is so vast, which could be captured only if it's a person who knows all, ok may be many, varieties an nuances of music. Else, I'm just a commoner who will dislike a different tune and an excellent song, if it doesn't fall into the category of what I want to hear. I'm just a listener. A pretty ordinary listener. The only thing I can do is I can play with words to sound the review excellent. I can't listen to Roja and Raavan with similar state of mind and so there's no point in comparing them. But, the results are always enriching for me when I hear some thing unusual from every album of his, that makes me keep interested in music to know about different genres, instruments, singing styles etc in the world of music. So a music review by a person, just represents his/her taste and his state of mind when he/she listens to the track. And I just don't care about what he/she writes. And nobody should care about my take too. - Emmanuel
Re: [arr] Keda Keda Kari...
I know. I am loving the lyrics for this one too. some Brilliant lines in this one! Find it so disappointing that the majority are trashing Keda Kari for the same. That it sounds forced and all- I don't find Keda Kari forced at all. A thoroughly enjoyable track and the surprise being Tanvi of course!! From: Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 14:40:45 Subject: [arr] Keda Keda Kari... Wow!...So nice to hear such funny, rural song after a long time...It reminds me of those moments we had during Kizhakku cheemayile.. .Takes you straight to the streets of a village...Particula rly these lines are too funny! Anga vantha aada meiykka thaane mappillai vanthaaga Kaala maadu Kaara pasuvum kaati vecheega, Athuga poatta saani alla thaane ponna pudichirukkoam -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow!
I really dont know how you guys are liking the song keda kari to be honest i really couldnt bear the highly disturbing vocals goes all the way till end. even all my friends expressed the same sort of feeling but i still went on to hear for the whole night (thereby grows in you phenomenon cannot be asserted here) if i ever could trace a satisfactory feeling but ina vain. It was very disappointing but i liked the way he had altered the vocals according to our south indian audiences. As a whole i hate this song to the core hindi version was lot better. --- On Wed, 5/5/10, amrish_deep amrish_d...@yahoo.com wrote: From: amrish_deep amrish_d...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:46 PM Even I find the Tamil version of Kata-Kata really catchy! Somehow getting reminded of yaaro-yaarodi song when I hear this... probably because of the wedding lyrics! Amazing stuff! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ ... wrote: I was not sure how Kata kata would fit in a tamil soundtrack but now having listened to Keda Kari, I've started wondering if it was put together for the Tamil version first! Such is the talent ofAR. The Nathaswarem, the chorus and the lovely vocals of Tanvi and Rayhanna just make it all sound a very Southy wedding song. I love it! And Tanvi- who will believe that the girl who sang for D6 and Jillunu is capable of this stuff? Amazing! Love what AR does with his singers. Every song brings out a different personality in their voices. Kata Kata vs Keda Kari - both very special songs in the latest Mani-AR treat. One of the the two songs I like equally from Raavan and Raavanan.
Re: [arr] Keda Keda Kari...
Hahaha. There were part they naadhari paya mave. Or am I the only one hearing this? LOL! http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use this account for the group... --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] Keda Keda Kari... To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 6:40 AM Wow!...So nice to hear such funny, rural song after a long time...It reminds me of those moments we had during Kizhakku cheemayile.. .Takes you straight to the streets of a village...Particula rly these lines are too funny! Anga vantha aada meiykka thaane mappillai vanthaaga Kaala maadu Kaara pasuvum kaati vecheega, Athuga poatta saani alla thaane ponna pudichirukkoam -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
I don't think he said he is not doing hindi movies anymore. He just said that he will do a balancing act - in his own words. He will work 6 months here and 6 months there. yes, the amount of work in a year will reduce. but that's ok. and for those who complain about AR leaving his roots and all.. it is his career for heaven's sake! think. we all have aspirations and want to achieve something in life. Given a chance, would you go and work in a company with good salary and a chance for career advancement or would you rather stay in your hometown and work in a coffee shop because it is where your roots are ? It is his life. he knows what is best for him let him choose what ever it is. we don't have to interfere or feel sad about him doing more hollywood films. enjoy whatever music he creates if you like it. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] After Rythm it's VTV!
yes. with VTV, many were saying ARR is back. well i dunno in what sense they meant, but the album is a rocking hit. Never seen this kind of response from the today's teenagers to an ARR album. They r usually a Harris or Yuvan song followers. They will only use their songs as callertune and ringtones. but these few months im spotting teenagers using Hosanna as ringtone and callertune... really glad to see this. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: I am glad VTV has had this sort of effect on those who thought Rahman's magic was lost. Truly says that the Rahman-Gautham combo are here to stay, given that it has satisfied the entire spectrum of music lovers, despite being bigger fans of other composers/genres. I couldn't connect to Rythm for some reason. I am definitely in the minority here, I think. From: dass madetou...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 7:02:59 Subject: [arr] After Rythm it's VTV! After Rythm it should be VTV in his Filmography. I think so. how? The ARR magic! Rythm is the last ARR album which had ARR's magic. ARR's magic in his music can't be explained; it is meant for experience; the music speaks for itself; there is no need for promoters. After Rythm, there is not a complete ARR album which speaks for itself. Of course there are numbers here and there (Newyork Nagaram, and a few), but not a complete album (alteast 95% magical?). if you remember how you've fallen in love with his music right from Roja, you will accept this. Those are the moments! (It may be harsh; but i am not here to insult his works in this decade! Eventhough they are not having the magic, they are not ordinary scores to be created, just that the satisfaction is missing.) Before Rythm, every album is afresh and a delight to own. We just play the cassettes again and again, unitl we have the next album. No complaints at all. After Rythm, the music of any of his albums didn't speak for themselves, most of the time, we fans were kind of advocating for them; like 'you need to hear it for another two more weeks, and you will like it', 'hey, he has tried something new which is not meant for current generation but will be appreciated in the future', 'i didn't like it initially, but tried hearing it after one year it sounded really good, so try the same', 'you need to have some extraordinary musical senses to understand his music', etc. May be the albums have extraordinary music but they are liked only by a limited number of fans. (Remember, Roja to Rythm has extraordinary music and at the same time liked by everybody). I think if you hear any album for two or more weeks, your mind will accept it and you will start humming it, but you won't feel the refreshness. (What's the need to listen to it?) What happend to him? Where is his magic? Is he saturated? Or am i getting old? Is it becuase of abundance of his kind of music composers? Is there any problem with my senses to capture it, or has he tried something which is meant for future. No clue. That too for a decade. Still unanswered. I am a music fan who has no idea about technicalities of the music creation. I don't want to know any of those technical details in order to enjoy the music. It just has to make us silent and listen to it. It has to renovate us to keep us going. ARR just came in and provided that refreshness (at a time when the music industry started becoming monotonous). I just need the same experience he has given us in the past. I was a bit of disappointed everytime an album released after Rythm. But I(we) waited for his return, since he is capabable of returning the magical experiance. Here comes 2010, here comes VTV, here comes his magic! He is back! This is what we are waiting for. Just play it and listen it. You will be renovated. Absolutely no complaints. Everybody loves the music. (You can refer to the VTV related posts in this group; 95% agree it is awesome). The BGM is perfect and fits the movie. Now it becomes close to our heart. Thanks to Gowtham! I know people, who are not anybody's fans, after hearing 'Hosanna and Omana Pennae', say, 'kaetka kaetka puthusa iruka; he still has the same magic even after 15 years'. This is the same we have experienced in the 90s with his music. And, this is important for his eternal success. We don't want him to give any less of what he has already gifted to us. (Like you want to see sachin scoring 100 in every match). I don't want people to fail, either side! Now, I have retained the hope that he will give us more such gifts. Now, I am happy and going back to listen VTV. Thanks for reading!
Re: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !!
Thank god..sis recovering fast...everything will b alrite soon...god bless her... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@... wrote: Ohhh... Goodness.May God blesses her health and she recovers faster... Nothing will happen to ARR and his family. Such blessed people. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote: Oh dear. Wishing her a speedy recovery. From: A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:05:34 Subject: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !! http://www.facebook .com/arrahman? v=wallstory_fbid=11871006 8150986 A.R. Rahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] Thok De Killi is 24 seconds longer than Kodu Poatta
There's an extra stanza in Thok that's not there in Kodu - between 3m 43s and 4m 7s in Thok De, which is missing in Kodu. Track length is about 24 seconds shorter in Kodu Just an observation - love both versions!
Re: [arr] Re: Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
Both ultimately talk about the man's love for the lady. However with the Hindi version, I was wondering whether this is to be picturised on Ram or Raavan. With the Tamil version, there is no doubt at all . It is picturised on Raavan. The lyrics are softer in Hindi keeping with the water theme whereas in Tamil it is bolder. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com wrote: Could not get this discussion. Does it mean Tamil version is not about behne de (flowing with water) ?? What does Usuru Poguthe mean? And also how this song is about fire?? can anyone elabore on this?? /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
Re: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !!
A speedy recovery for her and may God bless entire family! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@... wrote: Ohhh... Goodness.May God blesses her health and she recovers faster... Nothing will happen to ARR and his family. Such blessed people. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ wrote: Oh dear. Wishing her a speedy recovery. From: A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:05:34 Subject: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !! http://www.facebook .com/arrahman? v=wallstory_fbid=11871006 8150986 A.R. Rahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
[arr] What exactly are the differences between Tamil and Hindi Ravan
I happen to hear Tamil version of Ravan and I have been hearing Hindi version since eternity. I find that all the songs are exactly same, apart from language change and different singers. so could someone please elaborate what exactly are the differences between Tamil and Hindi Ravan music, so that we can play special notice to the durations of such differences in other version. -- Rawat
[arr] Fwd: Please Sir!
It's so nice to see these (FB Twitter) post from AR sir. Direct to fans. Direct Dil se. Jai ho' AR. __ Cheers, Srini Begin forwarded message: From: Srini Santhanam saint.si...@gmail.com Date: 5 May 2010 4:23:47 PM GMT+08:00 To: ARRahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Please Sir! It's official. Sachin has joined Twitter and already posted a few messages there. It's such a wonderful surprise from the legend. From what little I know, Sachin less tech saavy and equally (if not more) private person as AR. I hope AR also starts tweeting. I know he has a official FB and Twitter page but he it's more used as an extension of the official website. It will be fabulous if AR also starts tweeting. I'm sure he will set a new world record for the number of followers ;) It will be a great way to engage directly with the fans. I know he is Extremely busy, but this is just a wish. Please sir! :) __ Cheers, Srini
[arr] My song by song review of Raavan/Raavanan
A while back, I posted a review of Raavan from a very broad perspective and angle, highlighting what I thought were strengths and weaknesses in the album and trying to put the album within the context of ARR's musical career. I feel I have now heard the songs enough times to generate a more detailed review/analyais of each track, including the Tamil version. I apologize for the length in advance, as this is pretty long. 1) Beera/Veera This character based track oozes with spirit and spunk. I love the African/Tribal sonic theme of this track, hearkening to our primitive and ancient roots as the main character's pride and pomp is showcased here in a very colorful and entertaining manner. Beautiful percussive rhythms sustained in a groove that is extremely infectious and riveting. The tamil version features a brighter and louder ghugru track in the beginning with increased bass volume during the ARR sung Uh Ee Ee Ee Oh part. The Tamil version also features a funky bass line that is muted in volume in the Hindi version. Similarly, I noticed a warm pad sound chordal sequence that is higher in volume during the first chorus in the Tamil version, whereas it is almost muted in the Hindi version. The xylophone/vibraphone based music interlude sparks the imagination of a jungle/forrest backdrop full of frolic and freedom in both versions, while the Tamil version has an extra counter melodic upper bass pattern that is not heard in the Hindi version during the same interlude. The animal sounds only add to the fun spiritedness and truly enable one to visualize the cinematic backdrop. Keerthi Sagathia's injection during the Antara only adds sweetness and depth to the dhana dhan tan parts. The chord sequences during the choral sections are very pleasing, accentuated by some beautiful, bright guitar strumming, adding a shiny overture to an already sparkling oeuvre. The singing is extremely well executed by Vijay Prakash and company, including Mustafa, who is singing an entirely different style that we have heard before from him. I bet they had a lot of fun recording this number. A bit too short in length this track, but boy does it pack tremendous energy and groove. An amazingly feel good, peppy, energetic, fully exotic, colorful number that will also be popular with children. 2)Behene De/Usure Pogudhey Karthik deserve to win best male playback singer award for both versions in my opinion, and the year is still young. Superb, passionate execution on his part and one can really feel the emotions that Rahman wanted to convey through his smoothly textured voice. This track to me is like a hybrid with Hollywood background score meeting Bollywood Sufi film song. Emotionally high in intrigue, mystery, and longingness with a touch of anger, accentuated by the distorted electric guitars which are never overdone, this track is the album's heavyweight champion based on raagas Bhairavi and Basant Mukhari loosely. The first minute of the track sets the tone with an amazingly haunting prelude full of beautiful string chordal sequences and bright, crystal clear bells with a vibraphone/drum backdrop loop, once again, emphasizing the primal/raw/earthy consistency of this soundtrack. The string interlude is equally impressive with complex, negative emotions being communicated and having an abstract fee akin to a hollywood background score for an epic film. Notice the brooding short, but powerfully noticeable low octave string rhythm that comes in and out from right to left in the stanza following the first music interlude. Towards the end, what a culmination of synth, strings, percussion, electric guitars as the song evolves into a climax. Notice the sprawling synth sequence before the outro that only electrifies an already intensifying and passionate plea, further enhanced by a low, edgy bass synth section and a sinister electric guitar track. The ending choral sequence is in pure epic form with a chord formation that is both haunting and tragic in mood and feel. Yes, the word tragedy came to mind when hearing this outro explosion and what an amazing impact it had on my senses and spirit both, totally capturing me in its process. It's goose-pimples all the way for me from the very first note to the very last in this track, which to me, is one of ARR's finest tracks ever. The Tamil version (Usure Pogudhey) I feel expresses the feelings a bit more powerfully than the Hindi version, but overall, both tracks stand equally tall in my esteem. What a punch, what an impact, what a groove, what a monster of a track! 3) Thok De Killi/Kodu Poatta Style and attitude come to mind in this very punchy track that's on a mission. The emotions conveyed speak of some inner conflict while searching for direction, a mission that needs execution. Love the loopy/punchy distorted electric guitars in this one throughout this highly percussive dominated number. Yes, it's
[arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
Oh I have to say something here. Tamizh has a very beautiful phonetic character which I believe not understanding the language makes it easier to appreciate (your entire focus is on the phonetics rather than the meanings). I love listening to Tamizh songs a) for the melody b) for the phonetic richness of the language. And yes I am a Bengali too. I would urge all those who do not understand the language to listen to the words a little more attentively. Trust me, it's really beautiful even if you don't understand..not something you would want to miss out on :) Happy listening and thanks to ARR for broadening our horizons!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Exactly! I make fun of my Bengali friends when they talk in Bengali and vice versa. But somewhere, there is something that connects them all. From: Gomzy⢠gomtesh.upad...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 12:18:54 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata Any language that is alien to you will sound funny. You dont have to be apologetic about it. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail. com wrote: I have no intention to insult any language , We Bangladeshiz r the only nation to have shed blood for our mother tongue !! The International Mother language is our Shaheed Dibos ...even it is celebrated in West Bangla and Indian High commision in Dhaka.So language is very important to us ..We honour each and every language !! I am just saying being an Bangali , Tamil dialogues Sounds weird ...nothing more ,nothing less...I have some of my Bangladeshi Friends in Malaysia ...they often complain that there r so many tamil people there ...they feel awkward when these tamil people talks in tamil ...it sounds so weird to US , We just don't like the Sound of tamil language ..Hindi is pretty much OK with everyone here i guess ... Ofcourse it is your or someone else's mother tongue ...and it must be sweet to you ...but when you don't understand anything of any particular language ...then things like these can happen My apologies if i have hurt anyone .. :-( On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.scaran@ hotmail.com wrote: Rajib, you just insulted the Tamil language. How could u say its a horrible language? Though the Tamil that is being used in songs r actually the actual Tamil language, compared to the once being used by the Tamils in the daily conversations. If anyone uses the actual Tamil to speak to us, he will be whacked. Lol. Coz the Language is that complicated and pure. I agree Uyire is a better album than Dil Se, any day. But i prefered Jodha akhbar in Hindi compared to Tamil. Vimal, its really 'sin' not to listen to Alaipayuthey. Its by far one of ARR's strongest, solid album. The whole charm was lost in Saathiya. Do listen. I recommend it 200%. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, A.R.Rajib a.r.rajib@ . wrote: If u r not listening to all Tamil works of ARR i believe u r missing about 80% of his masterpieces ... Neither do i understand tamil ...but the language itself sounds so soothing/heavenly in songs or this might be the magic done by the lyricist . When i hear any tamil dialogues or any ARR interview in Tamil ...it sounds awful / Horrible ...but in his songs ...it's really heavenly .. Lemme first recommend some tamil versions of Hindi albums of his what is NOT to be missed by anyone.. Jodha akbar Tamil Uyire ( Dil se Tamil ) I think tamil version of these two is better than Hindi...don't know how many people have listen to these anyway...let's come to the point .. I am still in Ravan hangover ... Keta kari will take hell lot of time to sink in for me ... as i liked the hindi version a lot ... we r gonna get 6 versions of Ranjha ranjha :-P i can't stop smiling when i think about ... 6 versions of one single song ... Has it ever happened with any artist ? any Idea ? On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:50 AM, vimaljk vimaljk@ wrote: well..since i understand neither language...natural for me to try out both versions and see which one i like better...and choose that one when i listen later for example: i listen to Saathiya but not to Alai Payuthey i listen to Jodi but not to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna i listen to Aayitha Ezhuthu but not to Yuva and now i listen to Raavanan but not Raavan in making these determinations. .i see which version beats the other (in my mind)..in terms of in which album i like the songs better... that's allits not a language preference thing bc i don't know either my first language is English and my second is Malayalam... that's all i know how to speak/understand
[arr] Ila Arun's magic in Kata Kata missing in Keda Kari
about Keda kari, the female singers couldn't catch even 0.0001% of the magic that Ila Arun created in Kata Kata. While Ila's voice comes crystal clear and assertive and sounds mature enough to give advice, the tamil female voice needs us to strain to hear, it fades among the drum beats. sometimes her words seems to be each separately spoken, not merging like a sentence, as if she is emphasizing on each word. Have to add, that is my personal impression. -- Rawat
RE: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !!
Yes... I wish Raheema a very speedy recovery. God bless.. Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: Dinesh Scaran Sent: 06:05:2010 10.12.19 pm Subject: Re: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !! Ohhh... Goodness.May God blesses her health and she recovers faster... Nothing will happen to ARR and his family. Such blessed people. :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: Oh dear. Wishing her a speedy recovery. From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:05:34 Subject: [arr] ARR's latest FB update !! http://www.facebook .com/arrahman? v=wallstory_fbid=11871006 8150986 A.R. Rahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] Re: Raavanan vs Raavan - Comparison - Why?
On 5/6/2010 10:04 AM India Time, _Dinesh Scaran_ wrote: People should learn to love songs despite the language Indeed. good point. Could you share how that can be inculcated as I seem to be missing a lot of Tamil gems of ARR not knowing the language so I don't listen to them much. -- Rawat
[arr] Re: ARR's latest FB update !!
We all wish Raheema a speedy recovery!! Hoping she gets well soon --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote: http://www.facebook.com/arrahman?v=wallstory_fbid=118710068150986 http://www.facebook.com/arrahman?v=wallstory_fbid=118710068150986 [image: A.R. Rahman] http://www.facebook.com/arrahman?ref=mf A.R. Rahman http://www.facebook.com/arrahman For the past 3 nights, I have been playing a loving father to my daughter. No music, no nothing. I want to sincerely thank all my friends and family members for their prayers and good wishes. God has been kind and Raheema is recovering fast. I also want to thank all my friends from the media for their support and understanding of the situation and for respecting our privacy. -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
Re: [arr] Re: Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
On 5/6/2010 9:15 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: Could not get this discussion. Does it mean Tamil version is not about behne de (flowing with water) ?? What does Usuru Poguthe mean? And also how this song is about fire?? can anyone elabore on this?? /Jahanzeb dear Jahanzeb From srini's blog, these are the lyrics and translations BY SRINI: Usurae Poguthey - Ravanan Intha Bhoomiyila Eppa Vanthu Nee Porantha En Buthikula Theeporiya Nee Vethacha Adi Thaeku Mara kaadu Perusuthaan Chinna Theekuchi Osaram Sirusuthaan [You planted a spark in my mind the moment you were born on this earth The teak wood forest is huge and the size of the match stick is small] Adi Thaeku Mara Kaadu Perusuthaan Chinna Theekuchi Osaram Sirusuthaan Oru Theekuchi Vizhunthu Pudikuthadi Karunthaekumara Kaadu Vedikuthadi ye[The teak wood forest is huge and the size of the match stick is small The match stick falls on the ground and ignite And the teak wood forest bursts into flames] -- The beginning is great and indeed better and clearer than the hindi version. while hindi version gets confused - it talks about water (behne de), then it switches to tear drop from eye, then it again switches to chingari jala koi, and, aag laga zara, then it again swings to sehra ki pyaas bujha that is water, then it remains on water asking clouds to rain so much as to dissolve, and I wonder how would he float on water after getting dissolved. But, Tamil version, speaks clearly and unwaveringly about fire. forest is huge and matchstick is small, and, match stick falls on the ground, is conveying the hesitation and doubt of a person very well. but, then, the tamil version takes an about turn, and becomes a sensuous love song: Oosurae Poguthey Oosurae Poguthey Odatha Nee Kondam Suzhikayila Oooo Maaman Thavikiraen, Madipicha Kaekaraen Manasathaadi En Manikuyilae Akkarai Cheemaiyil Nee Irunthum Aiviral Theenditha Nenaikuthadi Agini Pazhamunu Therinjirunthum Adikadi Naaku Thudikuthadi [It’s kills me when I see you squeeze your lips Oh dear, I’m begging you to give me your heart Even though you are on the other side of the shore My fingers yearn to touch you My tongue yearns to taste you even though It knows that you are a ball of fire] -- I didn't read the lyrics any further. Such a beautiful opening deteriorated to an ordinary love song. It still seems not the problem of Vairamuthu. When he could pen such a descriptive opening, he could have carried on, but it seems Mani's problem that his script was calling far a love song wrapped in a revolution. May be there is no problem when we see the film, it might all make sense. -- Rawat --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawatvsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: Raavan/Raavanan differences and observations.......
On 5/6/2010 3:31 PM India Time, _Vasanth_ wrote: I feel.. Interest is not much given to Tamil version or lack of time. They(ARR-Mani) been honest of not celebrating audio release for Raavanan, as this version is not deserved. Anyway lots of thanks for VTV (ARR-Gautham) So, the launch functions are also an statement on the quality of the music in the album. recently, some album was launched in some foreign country, so that music was better and its director producer were interested. Hmm. We learn new things each day. :-) :-) :-) My thought is why didn't they launch Tamil and Hindi version in the same function? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
On 5/6/2010 10:09 PM India Time, _Roshan_ wrote: I don't think he said he is not doing hindi movies anymore. He just said that he will do a balancing act - in his own words. He will work 6 months here and 6 months there. yes, the amount of work in a year will reduce. but that's ok. If he could compose Ravan in 1 month, from my side he is free for remaining 11 months of every year to compose in hollywood, just give us one ravan each year. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
You are so lucky to be able to sense the subtle differences between these two masterpieces: soft and bold. From: Vinayakam Murugan mvinaya...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:47:53 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire) Both ultimately talk about the man's love for the lady. However with the Hindi version, I was wondering whether this is to be picturised on Ram or Raavan. With the Tamil version, there is no doubt at all . It is picturised on Raavan. The lyrics are softer in Hindi keeping with the water theme whereas in Tamil it is bolder. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr. com/photos/ rightplacerightt ime/ On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jahanzeb jahanzebtippu@ yahoo.com wrote: Could not get this discussion. Does it mean Tamil version is not about behne de (flowing with water) ?? What does Usuru Poguthe mean? And also how this song is about fire?? can anyone elabore on this?? /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: Behne De Usuru Poguthe (Water versus Fire)
But, Tamil version, speaks clearly and unwaveringly about fire. forest is huge and matchstick is small, and, match stick falls on the ground, is conveying the hesitation and doubt of a person very well. Even here he is talking about how the spark of love can totally set a man of fire. The whole song is sensuous.Period. but, then, the tamil version takes an about turn, and becomes a sensuous love song: I didn't read the lyrics any further. Such a beautiful opening deteriorated to an ordinary love song. It still seems not the problem of Vairamuthu. When he could pen such a descriptive opening, he could have carried on, but it seems Mani's problem that his script was calling far a love song wrapped in a revolution. I didn't see it as an about turn. VM has the character singing about forbidden love and justifying it. May be there is no problem when we see the film, it might all make sense. -- Rawat --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, V S Rawatvsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 9:02 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: Behne De refers to water whereas Usuru refers to Fire. :) If so, then I would say that Vairamuthu has caught the essence of the song better than gulzar. May be because gulzar by nature is softer peot of finer emotions, he could not get himself to write this song with fire and compromised to be with water, but fire is what this song is about, so I think Vairamuthu could get that and could pen the lyrics that must be suiting it better. thanks for telling us. Same tune, Two songs, Five magicians - Brilliant!!! Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow!
Now that you have got it out of your way, listen to the other songs you like. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:22 AM, senthil kannan senthil...@yahoo.com wrote: I really dont know how you guys are liking the song keda kari to be honest i really couldnt bear the highly disturbing vocals goes all the way till end. even all my friends expressed the same sort of feeling but i still went on to hear for the whole night (thereby grows in you phenomenon cannot be asserted here) if i ever could trace a satisfactory feeling but ina vain. It was very disappointing but i liked the way he had altered the vocals according to our south indian audiences. As a whole i hate this song to the core hindi version was lot better. --- On *Wed, 5/5/10, amrish_deep amrish_d...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: amrish_deep amrish_d...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:46 PM Even I find the Tamil version of Kata-Kata really catchy! Somehow getting reminded of yaaro-yaarodi song when I hear this... probably because of the wedding lyrics! Amazing stuff! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. comhttp://us.mc1105.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ ... wrote: I was not sure how Kata kata would fit in a tamil soundtrack but now having listened to Keda Kari, I've started wondering if it was put together for the Tamil version first! Such is the talent ofAR. The Nathaswarem, the chorus and the lovely vocals of Tanvi and Rayhanna just make it all sound a very Southy wedding song. I love it! And Tanvi- who will believe that the girl who sang for D6 and Jillunu is capable of this stuff? Amazing! Love what AR does with his singers. Every song brings out a different personality in their voices. Kata Kata vs Keda Kari - both very special songs in the latest Mani-AR treat. One of the the two songs I like equally from Raavan and Raavanan.
Re: [arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
On 5/6/2010 11:14 PM India Time, _diya_ wrote: Oh I have to say something here. What do you mean by beautiful phonetic character and phonetic richness? Tamizh has a very beautiful phonetic character which I believe not understanding the language makes it easier to appreciate (your entire focus is on the phonetics rather than the meanings). You wouldn't be saying that if you had known how meticulously they had cleansed their language by removing the impurities of Sanskrit-origin words from it. I love listening to Tamizh songs a) for the melody b) for the phonetic richness of the language. And yes I am a Bengali too. I would urge all those who do not understand the language to listen to the words a little more attentively. Trust me, it's really beautiful even if you don't understand..not something you would want to miss out on :) Some languages are by nature harsh and some are soft. like, Bengali, Italian are softer languages, Asamese is almost like one is singing when speaking routine things, German and Tamil are harsher languages. If I have used harsh wrongly, just speak one sentence of each of the above and tell me what is the correct term for this property that I am calling harsh. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] What is in a Music Review?
On 5/6/2010 10:06 PM India Time, _Kalyan K_ wrote: Very Well said Emmanuel. Straight into the Bird's Eye. Kalyan K. But your reply is not straight into the BULL's Eye. :-) kidding. you owe me for time that I spent in checking dictionary. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Bird%27s+Eye -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Ila Arun's magic in Kata Kata missing in Keda Kari
Rawat, I think that's a regional thing. Ila's voice (/texture) would not have sat well in Keda Kari. The rustic voices in Keda Kari is exactly what you would here if you went to a typical village-wedding in the South. They are making fun of the groom and bride-to-be and the emphasis on some words than the sentence as a whole represents the real thing. There's also the stretching of some words. Listen to Rukkumani and you'll know what I am referring to here. I think the power of this song lies on the lyrics as well. Kata Kata and KedaKari have been played exactly the same number of times on my playlist! Love them both for portraying two distinct cultures so very beautifully. From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com To: arrf arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 20:28:28 Subject: [arr] Ila Arun's magic in Kata Kata missing in Keda Kari about Keda kari, the female singers couldn't catch even 0.0001% of the magic that Ila Arun created in Kata Kata. While Ila's voice comes crystal clear and assertive and sounds mature enough to give advice, the tamil female voice needs us to strain to hear, it fades among the drum beats. sometimes her words seems to be each separately spoken, not merging like a sentence, as if she is emphasizing on each word. Have to add, that is my personal impression. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] My song by song review of Raavan/Raavanan
On 5/7/2010 1:07 AM India Time, _AJ_ wrote: 5) Khili Re/Kalvare These type of songs from ARR totally melt metotally make me weak in the knees and only make me bow further down to the musical Maestro. only you have the touch to compose a song as delicately as this one and with an old world charm melody that in my mind, would make Naushad proud. Naushad is my other all time fav apart from ARR, but if you are mentioning for Khili Rey type of songs, I would say that C Ramchandra was a more appropriate composer to mention compared to Naushad. Hope some oldy-goldy fans would put their 2 cents who was a better master of this genre of songs. -- btw, the sweetness of oldy-goldies is euqally, or more, due to the sweet voice of Lata ji, as it was due to beautiful melodious tunes composted by then MDs. Sometimes I think what if ARR had been here in 1945-1960 and had got fresh Lata ji to sing for him when her voice was the raw-est and the sweetest, they together would have melt the world. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow!
It's the rustic nature of the lyrics and vocals that makes this song extra special for me. I can imagine this being sung during a wedding in a beautiful little village in Tamil Nadu. The mood, the joy, the food, the fun,the pranks and everything that is part of a typical village wedding. For me, the song defines the term 'mann vasanai'. I am still amazed that Tanvi who sang the jazzy title track of Jillunu Oru Kadhal is capable of a Keda Kari. Well done! And you are right- Keda Kari has bee cleverly tailored for the South. Loving both versions equally. From: senthil kannan senthil...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:22:51 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow! I really dont know how you guys are liking the song keda kari to be honest i really couldnt bear the highly disturbing vocals goes all the way till end. even all my friends expressed the same sort of feeling but i still went on to hear for the whole night (thereby grows in you phenomenon cannot be asserted here) if i ever could trace a satisfactory feeling but ina vain. It was very disappointing but i liked the way he had altered the vocals according to our south indian audiences. As a whole i hate this song to the core hindi version was lot better. --- On Wed, 5/5/10, amrish_deep amrish_deep@ yahoo.com wrote: From: amrish_deep amrish_deep@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow! To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:46 PM Even I find the Tamil version of Kata-Kata really catchy! Somehow getting reminded of yaaro-yaarodi song when I hear this... probably because of the wedding lyrics! Amazing stuff! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ ... wrote: I was not sure how Kata kata would fit in a tamil soundtrack but now having listened to Keda Kari, I've started wondering if it was put together for the Tamil version first! Such is the talent ofAR. The Nathaswarem, the chorus and the lovely vocals of Tanvi and Rayhanna just make it all sound a very Southy wedding song. I love it! And Tanvi- who will believe that the girl who sang for D6 and Jillunu is capable of this stuff? Amazing! Love what AR does with his singers. Every song brings out a different personality in their voices. Kata Kata vs Keda Kari - both very special songs in the latest Mani-AR treat. One of the the two songs I like equally from Raavan and Raavanan.
[arr] ARR should use Shubha Mugdal's voice
I wish Rahman would use Shubha Mugdal in his songs. I don't think she's ever been in an ARR song before. It's high time that we hear her in an ARR composition! I love her voice and style of singing! Remember the music of Raincoat as an example?
Re: [arr] Raavan - Lets be honest
Lol. same here :) On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:05 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/6/2010 10:09 PM India Time, _Roshan_ wrote: I don't think he said he is not doing hindi movies anymore. He just said that he will do a balancing act - in his own words. He will work 6 months here and 6 months there. yes, the amount of work in a year will reduce. but that's ok. If he could compose Ravan in 1 month, from my side he is free for remaining 11 months of every year to compose in hollywood, just give us one ravan each year. -- Rawat -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] Which Ravan song is likely to have best visual?
Give your predictions which Ravan song you think will have the most appealing visuals (film)? Thusly, the song having the best visual gets the most mileage after the release of the film and grows more popular. My guess: Kata Kata -- Rawat
[arr] ARR takes a page out of Mosquito for Ranjha/Kattu
In my song by song review, I briefly mentioned that ARR sampled Rekha's voice and used it as a drone backdrop with electronic distortion coming and going throughout the song. The tweaking that he did with the sound frequencies in that drone, modulating the treble range within a uniformly timed wavelength, reminds me so much of the Mosquito effect sound he used in the Mosquito track from Connections. He used it brilliantly in this track!
Re: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow!
On 5/6/2010 9:52 PM India Time, _senthil kannan_ wrote: I really dont know how you guys are liking the song keda kari to be honest i really couldnt bear the highly disturbing vocals goes all the way till end. even all my friends expressed the same sort of feeling but i still went on to hear for the whole night (thereby grows in you phenomenon cannot be asserted here) You teach ur mind for 10 days to like Kata Kata, and you expect your mind to undo that learning in one night, along with learning to like this new version? tough mandate buddy, u shud give it more time. All songs of this album are grow-ers. if i ever could trace a satisfactory feeling but ina vain. It was very disappointing but i liked the way he had altered the vocals according to our south indian audiences. As a whole i hate this song to the core hindi version was lot better. Indeed. For me, at least. -- Rawat
[arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow!
So true, Indmov! Both versions describe the North and South so beautifully, each with their own distinct culture and taste...it's what makes a country like India so great.despite such differences, it's one nation, one people. I'm proud to be an Indian and these 2 verions, Kata and Keda, affirm my love for the simple and folk parts of Indiathe innocence, the simplicity, the raw beauty, the rusticity, the goodwill and hospitality of the common person there. India is not perfect by any means, but listening to such deeply rooted Indian folk music in these 2 North/South versions makes me feel closer to my Indian roots. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote: It's the rustic nature of the lyrics and vocals that makes this song extra special for me. I can imagine this being sung during a wedding in a beautiful little village in Tamil Nadu. The mood, the joy, the food, the fun,the pranks and everything that is part of a typical village wedding. For me, the song defines the term 'mann vasanai'. I am still amazed that Tanvi who sang the jazzy title track of Jillunu Oru Kadhal is capable of a Keda Kari. Well done! And you are right- Keda Kari has bee cleverly tailored for the South. Loving both versions equally. From: senthil kannan senthil...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 17:22:51 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow! I really dont know how you guys are liking the song keda kari to be honest i really couldnt bear the highly disturbing vocals goes all the way till end. even all my friends expressed the same sort of feeling but i still went on to hear for the whole night (thereby grows in you phenomenon cannot be asserted here) if i ever could trace a satisfactory feeling but ina vain. It was very disappointing but i liked the way he had altered the vocals according to our south indian audiences. As a whole i hate this song to the core hindi version was lot better. --- On Wed, 5/5/10, amrish_deep amrish_deep@ yahoo.com wrote: From: amrish_deep amrish_deep@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Keda Kari- wow! To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:46 PM Even I find the Tamil version of Kata-Kata really catchy! Somehow getting reminded of yaaro-yaarodi song when I hear this... probably because of the wedding lyrics! Amazing stuff! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Indmov Buff indmovbuff@ ... wrote: I was not sure how Kata kata would fit in a tamil soundtrack but now having listened to Keda Kari, I've started wondering if it was put together for the Tamil version first! Such is the talent ofAR. The Nathaswarem, the chorus and the lovely vocals of Tanvi and Rayhanna just make it all sound a very Southy wedding song. I love it! And Tanvi- who will believe that the girl who sang for D6 and Jillunu is capable of this stuff? Amazing! Love what AR does with his singers. Every song brings out a different personality in their voices. Kata Kata vs Keda Kari - both very special songs in the latest Mani-AR treat. One of the the two songs I like equally from Raavan and Raavanan.
[arr] Re: i now like Keta Kari better than Kata Kata
By beautiful phonetic character, I meant it has a very interesting texture, the way the words sound. You are right, it's not soft in that sense, I wouldn't call it harsh, it appears textured to me. I think this has something to do with the subtleties of different las and ras, zha, etc(personal opinion, I have almost no knowledge of Tamizh, would love to hear what others think of this). Of course, no comparison intended with any other language, they are all beautiful in their own ways. I said this about Tamizh as this is a language I have learned to appreciate purely for the sound of it! Thanks. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 5/6/2010 11:14 PM India Time, _diya_ wrote: Oh I have to say something here. What do you mean by beautiful phonetic character and phonetic richness? Tamizh has a very beautiful phonetic character which I believe not understanding the language makes it easier to appreciate (your entire focus is on the phonetics rather than the meanings). You wouldn't be saying that if you had known how meticulously they had cleansed their language by removing the impurities of Sanskrit-origin words from it. I love listening to Tamizh songs a) for the melody b) for the phonetic richness of the language. And yes I am a Bengali too. I would urge all those who do not understand the language to listen to the words a little more attentively. Trust me, it's really beautiful even if you don't understand..not something you would want to miss out on :) Some languages are by nature harsh and some are soft. like, Bengali, Italian are softer languages, Asamese is almost like one is singing when speaking routine things, German and Tamil are harsher languages. If I have used harsh wrongly, just speak one sentence of each of the above and tell me what is the correct term for this property that I am calling harsh. -- Rawat
