Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Roger Medsker
Ganga,

 

The easiest way I have figured out to migrate server objects from one server
to another is to sort the objects by date modified, highlight the recently
modified object(s) you need to migrate and then right click on one of them
and export to a def file. I start with Forms then go on to the remaining
objects. You can specify the same file to export to and click on the append
button to add the new object type to the existing file. If you know all of
the objects you need to migrate are related to specific forms, you can view
by those forms and then the refresh of the object lists will take less time.

 

Roger Medsker

Remedy Consultant

Bluestem Consulting Group, LLC

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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Subject: Export Automation -- Possible ??

 

** 

Hi List

As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using my
Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and put
it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I need
to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...  

Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

ARS 7.0
Oracle 10G
NO ITSM


Thanks and Regards,
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( Remedy Skilled Professional )
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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
Shawn/Bing:

You guess hit the mark squarely.  The ARS is dying a slow death, and
unfortunately BMC is doing nothing to stop it.

Think on it for just a moment.  If BMC would lower the price of the ARS
down to, say, the price of the Visual Studio (somewhere in the range of
$500) and abolished ARS user licenses (they could continue to sell the
user licenses for their OOTB apps), think of how many copies of ARS they
would sell.

I've written apps in a variety of environments, and to this day the
fastest and easiest I've found is ARS.  Build an app in Remedy and
voila! Instant app that runs in Windows and Unix environments AND is
client or web-based.  When people see how easy and quick it is not knock
out a complete application, they'll flock to it in droves.

But as is, the licensing model blocks newcomers to the platform.  It's
the thanks but no thanks effect.  True, ARS has its diehards (us), but
we are a very small community.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

Shawn, you are right on target!

IT management culture has changed since the AR System's initial
introduction.  In those days IT shops regularly debated the buy vs.
build
dilemma, and there wasn't a clear winner.  Today it's different, as IT
shops
regularly select OOTB applications -- build decisions are the
exception,
not the rule.  And it's not about cost.  It's about assuring the
business
that IT's core service management applications are maintained and
updated
by a stable and reputable company, not Joe in development or some
goober-faced no-name outfit that no one (outside a small Remedy
community)
has heard of.

There has also been some BIG money invested in Software as a Service
(SaaS)
offerings, and that market continues to grow exponentially each year.

Unfortunately, Remedy's market continues to shrink each year.  Yet BMC
continues to refuse to provide free ARS developer kits to encourage the
development of new applications/products based on the AR System, and
they
refuse to offer ARS interfaces for Java, PHP/Python, .NET, and other
current
technologies.  BMC's current focus is on applications, not the AR System
or
custom development, so it's unclear what the future holds for those
shops
who continue to run home brew applications, or what the future holds
for
those developers who cling to the ARS toolset even the manufacturer has
virtually abandoned.

(Sorry for the depressing statements.  And no offense is intended to any
independent ARS developers or product vendors -- on the contrary, by
successfully offering your ARS-based products and services you've
accomplished something even the mighty BMC/Remedy marketing machine has
not,
and you should be proud of it!)

-- Bing

Bradford Bingel (Bing)
ITM3 California
http://www.itm3.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (email)
925-260-6394 (mobile)


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In addition to that, based on what I've seen, Remedy ARS developers get
paid
a lot more than .NET developers.  Factor into that the difficulty in
finding
ARS developers, and management is more likely to pursue custom .NET
development work as opposed to custom ARS development.  If you leave the
company, how long would it take for them to find a decent ARS developer
willing to take your job for a 5% raise over what you get now?  It would
be
difficult.  On the other hand, you can probably find a decent .NET
developer
willing to get the same salary you do pretty easily.

One of the best things about working with Remedy products is the good
job
market, but at the same time there isn't enough new blood and enough
marketing of ARS to really make the development platform thrive like
.NET
has.  You don't see BMC handing out free ARS server licenses on college
campuses.

Shawn Pierson

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

Yes...it is an awesome RAD environment but it's extremely hampered by
its
extraordinarily expensive licensing model.  With another RAD (let's say
Visual Studio .Net), you build the application and then never have to
worry
about paying a dime for application licenses.  With Remedy you say,
Hey, we
could knock out XYZ app in a day! Oh...wait...we'd have to buy more
licenses...nevermind...

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Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

I have to say...

There is nothing wrong with the 

QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
have the Notification go to particular support groups?

I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
to go 6 different groups.

Suggestions / ideas?

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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Worsdell
Never tried it but how about a Computed Group?

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Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
have the Notification go to particular support groups?

I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
to go 6 different groups.

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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
Thanks Matt.

I don't think that will work.  I have a list of all the group IDs - I
just not sure when / where to set them.



On 7/23/08, Matt Worsdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Never tried it but how about a Computed Group?

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 Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
 have the Notification go to particular support groups?

 I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
 out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
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SSO and WUT

2008-07-23 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
For anyone who has compiled the SSO dll for the Windows User Tool (v
7.1.0), Which C compiler did you use (and if it was an MS one did you
have to install the VC Runtime on your client's PC)?

Fred Grooms 

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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Ganga Prasad
Here again I need to manually do a selection to export. Is it possible to
automate it ??

Thanks and Regards,
Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
( Remedy Skilled Professional )
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Roger Medsker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 **

 Ganga,



 The easiest way I have figured out to migrate server objects from one
 server to another is to sort the objects by date modified, highlight the
 recently modified object(s) you need to migrate and then right click on one
 of them and export to a def file. I start with Forms then go on to the
 remaining objects. You can specify the same file to export to and click on
 the append button to add the new object type to the existing file. If you
 know all of the objects you need to migrate are related to specific forms,
 you can view by those forms and then the refresh of the object lists will
 take less time.



 Roger Medsker

 Remedy Consultant

 Bluestem Consulting Group, LLC

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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 *Subject:* Export Automation -- Possible ??



 **

 Hi List

 As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using
 my  Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and
 put it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I
 need to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
 tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...

 Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
 point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

 ARS 7.0
 Oracle 10G
 NO ITSM


 Thanks and Regards,
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 ( Remedy Skilled Professional )
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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Rick Cook
What we're using is a form-based system.  A form lists the names of other
forms, and the query and other parameters used to grab data from System A
and move it to System B.  A series of Escalations take that data and run
scripts that update the data.

Rick

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Roger Medsker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 **

 Ganga,



 The easiest way I have figured out to migrate server objects from one
 server to another is to sort the objects by date modified, highlight the
 recently modified object(s) you need to migrate and then right click on one
 of them and export to a def file. I start with Forms then go on to the
 remaining objects. You can specify the same file to export to and click on
 the append button to add the new object type to the existing file. If you
 know all of the objects you need to migrate are related to specific forms,
 you can view by those forms and then the refresh of the object lists will
 take less time.



 Roger Medsker

 Remedy Consultant

 Bluestem Consulting Group, LLC

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:29 AM
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 *Subject:* Export Automation -- Possible ??



 **

 Hi List

 As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using
 my  Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and
 put it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I
 need to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
 tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...

 Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
 point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

 ARS 7.0
 Oracle 10G
 NO ITSM


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Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

2008-07-23 Thread Liu, Lei
Does anyone have suggestions? I tried on my fresh VM this morning, but got the 
same Write License Error.
 
Regards,
Lei 



From: Liu, Lei
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 12:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error


Hi,
 
We turned on our survey last week, but end users with requester console access 
only had reported that they had a write licence error whenever they submitted 
surveys. However their answers indeed went into SRM:Survey form (with users' 
logon as submitter). The Submitter Mode on server is set to Locked.
 
Did anyone encounter this issue before? Any suggestions?
 
 
Regards,
Lei

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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
Hmmm...we'll see.  I don't think just releasing a new version of the
Admin tool (based on existing open source code) will do much to
reinvigorate the ARS when BMC has discarded the Your Business -- Your
Way approach.

I've seen just one job posting for a custom developer recently...before
that, it seems every single one was for an ITSM configurator.  With
fewer custom development jobs, developers are bound to leave the field
for other toolsets where pastures are greener.  When they leave, the ARS
loses its biggest advocates of Remedy as a rapid app development tool.
As you lose advocates, you lose word of mouth, which is what grew Remedy
into what it is.

I honestly don't think ITSM will drive anyone to think, Hey look at
this cool development tool we have at our disposal. Instead, I think
the mentality is more and more becoming, Hey, cowboy! Don't touch that!
It's too complicated.  We don't want you breaking our OOTB solution.

I think lowering the price and attracting new people in to build apps of
all sorts and sizes is the only thing that will make the ARS a viable
platform in the eyes of many businesses.

Think about it...ask just about any outsider about Remedy and typically
(not always) they say something along the lines of, Oh yeah...that's
that Help Desk thing, right? not, Oh yeah...that's that awesome rapid
app toolset! I can't ever remember talking to an outsider (a network
engineer, a CIO, an IT specialist, etc.) who knew you could build
applications with Remedy.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

** 
I have to take some exception to your first remark, Norm.  If the ARS
were dying a slow death, why would BMC bring out a new Administrator
tool (7.5) that will EXPAND the developer's ability to do core ARS
development?  I know that part of the reason for that is that it's old
technology that's in the way of some architectural advances that need to
take place, but that's my point.  AR System developers will, with 7.5,
have the ability to build things we can't even imagine doing now.  How
many software companies give developers like us that much power over
their OOB applications?

In my opinion, the core AR System development, which has taken a back
seat (maybe in the trunk) to OOB apps for a few years now, WILL be
making a renaissance in the next few years as companies that bought ITSM
increasingly realize that with it, they got a pretty good workflow
engine that is easy to integrate with their ITSM products.  I take great
pains to point out to new Remedy/ITSM customers that every part of that
application suite was built with the same workflow engine they have at
their disposal, and that a skilled and experienced development team can
build an application to support any business function with it.

I don't see AR System ever being the financial driver that it used to
be, as the revenue model will always be more robust for OOB apps.  But
it can and should return to being more of a technological driver in the
next 2-3 years.

I do agree that an MSDN-like arrangement would be a net win for both BMC
and for the developers.  I have heard Doug say he's proposed it many
times.  I hope he continues to do so until his wisdom is accepted.

Rick


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Shawn/Bing:

You guess hit the mark squarely.  The ARS is dying a slow death,
and
unfortunately BMC is doing nothing to stop it.

Think on it for just a moment.  If BMC would lower the price of
the ARS
down to, say, the price of the Visual Studio (somewhere in the
range of
$500) and abolished ARS user licenses (they could continue to
sell the
user licenses for their OOTB apps), think of how many copies of
ARS they
would sell.

I've written apps in a variety of environments, and to this day
the
fastest and easiest I've found is ARS.  Build an app in Remedy
and
voila! Instant app that runs in Windows and Unix environments
AND is
client or web-based.  When people see how easy and quick it is
not knock
out a complete application, they'll flock to it in droves.

But as is, the licensing model blocks newcomers to the platform.
It's
the thanks but no thanks effect.  True, ARS has its diehards
(us), but
we are a very small community.


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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread Lisa Westerfield
I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a support
group it doesn't have anything to notify.

How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to notify?
Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an additional
set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
 
I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it is
definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.

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Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
have the Notification go to particular support groups?

I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
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Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

2008-07-23 Thread Leonard Neely - FOJ
Hi Lei,

 

We ran into a similar issue with Surveys (write license error) and found
that  the following conditions had to exist in order to make it work.

1.  The server is in Submitter Mode (Locked)
2.  A user record exist in CTM:People (read license)
3.  A user record exists in the (User) form.

 

Note: A survey record is not created by the requester when they fill out the
survey in the Requester console.  The survey record is created when the
incident is resolved by a support staff person.  When the requester fills
out the survey, they are Responding to and existing survey record, and
thus, a modification to the record is made.  We also found that the
conditions mentioned above also needed to exist in order for the requester
to be able to Reopen an incident from the requester console.

 

HTH

 

Leonard Neely

Column Technologies 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

Does anyone have suggestions? I tried on my fresh VM this morning, but got
the same Write License Error.

 

Regards,

Lei 

 

  _  

From: Liu, Lei
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 12:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

Hi,

 

We turned on our survey last week, but end users with requester console
access only had reported that they had a write licence error whenever they
submitted surveys. However their answers indeed went into SRM:Survey form
(with users' logon as submitter). The Submitter Mode on server is set to
Locked.

 

Did anyone encounter this issue before? Any suggestions?

 

 

Regards,

Lei

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Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

2008-07-23 Thread Lammey, Peter A.
I believe in addition to what you listed below, the Submitter of each 
SRM:Survey record must be set to the requester that has the read access that is 
receiving the survey link.

Otherwise the system will not let those Read licensed users update tickets 
submitted by other ids (only allow them to update records submitted with their 
ID).



Thanks
Peter Lammey
ESPN MIT Technical Services  Applications Management
860-766-4761




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Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

**
Hi Lei,
We ran into a similar issue with Surveys (write license error) and found that  
the following conditions had to exist in order to make it work.

 1.  The server is in Submitter Mode (Locked)
 2.  A user record exist in CTM:People (read license)
 3.  A user record exists in the (User) form.
Note: A survey record is not created by the requester when they fill out the 
survey in the Requester console.  The survey record is created when the 
incident is resolved by a support staff person.  When the requester fills out 
the survey, they are Responding to and existing survey record, and thus, a 
modification to the record is made.  We also found that the conditions 
mentioned above also needed to exist in order for the requester to be able to 
Reopen an incident from the requester console.
HTH
Leonard Neely
Column Technologies

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On Behalf Of Liu, Lei
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error
Does anyone have suggestions? I tried on my fresh VM this morning, but got the 
same Write License Error.
Regards,
Lei

From: Liu, Lei
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 12:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error
Hi,
We turned on our survey last week, but end users with requester console access 
only had reported that they had a write licence error whenever they submitted 
surveys. However their answers indeed went into SRM:Survey form (with users' 
logon as submitter). The Submitter Mode on server is set to Locked.
Did anyone encounter this issue before? Any suggestions?
Regards,
Lei
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
Thanks for your email Lisa.

I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem to work.

I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
- I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
work.

My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.





On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
 since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a support
 group it doesn't have anything to notify.

 How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to notify?
 Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an additional
 set of criteria to identify that subset of people?

 I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it is
 definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

 Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
 have the Notification go to particular support groups?

 I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
 out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
 to go 6 different groups.

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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
If I set z1D NT Support Group ID with SGP0090 - the
notification does not go out.

If I don't set it my notification goes out.



On 7/23/08, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your email Lisa.

 I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem to work.

 I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
 - I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
 work.

 My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
 people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.





 On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
  since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a support
  group it doesn't have anything to notify.
 
  How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to notify?
  Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an additional
  set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
 
  I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it is
  definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
 
  Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
  have the Notification go to particular support groups?
 
  I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
  out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
  to go 6 different groups.
 
  Suggestions / ideas?
 
  THANK YOU!
 
  
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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread LJ Longwing
The methodology that we have adopted at my current job works well.  Each
developer that needs to have stuff moved from Dev to Test creates a packing
list and puts all of their stuff into that PL.  When it comes time to move
from Dev to Test you simply add the contents of each PL to the export, and
that is your def file...no hunting for that elusive AL.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:29 PM
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Subject: Export Automation -- Possible ??


** 
Hi List

As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using my
Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and put
it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I need
to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...  

Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

ARS 7.0
Oracle 10G
NO ITSM


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Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

2008-07-23 Thread Leonard Neely - FOJ
You are correct Peter.  The assumption is that the person filling out the
survey (from the Requester Console), is also the person who submitted the
initial request.  Otherwise, I don't think that the survey would even show
up in the Requester's console to complete.

 

Leonard

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

I believe in addition to what you listed below, the Submitter of each
SRM:Survey record must be set to the requester that has the read access that
is receiving the survey link.

 

Otherwise the system will not let those Read licensed users update tickets
submitted by other ids (only allow them to update records submitted with
their ID).

 

 

Thanks 
Peter Lammey 
ESPN MIT Technical Services  Applications Management 
860-766-4761 

 

 

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** 

Hi Lei,

We ran into a similar issue with Surveys (write license error) and found
that  the following conditions had to exist in order to make it work.

1.  The server is in Submitter Mode (Locked) 
2.  A user record exist in CTM:People (read license) 
3.  A user record exists in the (User) form. 

Note: A survey record is not created by the requester when they fill out the
survey in the Requester console.  The survey record is created when the
incident is resolved by a support staff person.  When the requester fills
out the survey, they are Responding to and existing survey record, and
thus, a modification to the record is made.  We also found that the
conditions mentioned above also needed to exist in order for the requester
to be able to Reopen an incident from the requester console.

HTH

Leonard Neely

Column Technologies 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

Does anyone have suggestions? I tried on my fresh VM this morning, but got
the same Write License Error.

Regards,

Lei 

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From: Liu, Lei
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 12:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

Hi,

We turned on our survey last week, but end users with requester console
access only had reported that they had a write licence error whenever they
submitted surveys. However their answers indeed went into SRM:Survey form
(with users' logon as submitter). The Submitter Mode on server is set to
Locked.

Did anyone encounter this issue before? Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lei

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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Roger Medsker
You could probably automate the process using the Remedy Administrator CLI
(see the Integrating manual). But you would need a list of the objects to
export (perhaps a packing list?) in order to do it. I've never taken the
time to investigate this since it takes me only minutes to use the method I
described below.

 

Roger

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

 

** 

Here again I need to manually do a selection to export. Is it possible to
automate it ??

Thanks and Regards,
Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
( Remedy Skilled Professional )
-



On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Roger Medsker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

** 

Ganga,

 

The easiest way I have figured out to migrate server objects from one server
to another is to sort the objects by date modified, highlight the recently
modified object(s) you need to migrate and then right click on one of them
and export to a def file. I start with Forms then go on to the remaining
objects. You can specify the same file to export to and click on the append
button to add the new object type to the existing file. If you know all of
the objects you need to migrate are related to specific forms, you can view
by those forms and then the refresh of the object lists will take less time.

 

Roger Medsker

Remedy Consultant

Bluestem Consulting Group, LLC

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:29 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Export Automation -- Possible ??

 

** 

Hi List

As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using my
Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and put
it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I need
to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...  

Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

ARS 7.0
Oracle 10G
NO ITSM


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( Remedy Skilled Professional )
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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Coleman, Gavin
I've written a Project Tracking / Workflow export utility. This runs from the 
Remedy User tool. Users create Projects and then add lists of workflow to these 
projects. A custom built API then exports all the workflow from the Project.

Unfortunately I can't share it with the list as it was written for a company 
and their rules prevent me from disclosing this. The main bulk of the work 
involves View forms looking at the back end Data Dictionary tables (I.e 
Actlink, arschema etc). With a bit of work, you could easily recreate this.

Thanks

Gavin Coleman
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On Behalf Of Roger Medsker
Sent: 23 July 2008 17:33
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

**
You could probably automate the process using the Remedy Administrator CLI (see 
the Integrating manual). But you would need a list of the objects to export 
(perhaps a packing list?) in order to do it. I've never taken the time to 
investigate this since it takes me only minutes to use the method I described 
below.

Roger

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On Behalf Of Ganga Prasad
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:56 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

**
Here again I need to manually do a selection to export. Is it possible to 
automate it ??

Thanks and Regards,
Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
( Remedy Skilled Professional )
-
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Roger Medsker [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:
**

Ganga,



The easiest way I have figured out to migrate server objects from one server to 
another is to sort the objects by date modified, highlight the recently 
modified object(s) you need to migrate and then right click on one of them and 
export to a def file. I start with Forms then go on to the remaining objects. 
You can specify the same file to export to and click on the append button to 
add the new object type to the existing file. If you know all of the objects 
you need to migrate are related to specific forms, you can view by those forms 
and then the refresh of the object lists will take less time.



Roger Medsker

Remedy Consultant

Bluestem Consulting Group, LLC

[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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**

Hi List

As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using my  
Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and put it 
into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I need to 
carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very tedious as 
we have a large number of workflows ...

Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup point 
to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

ARS 7.0
Oracle 10G
NO ITSM


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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread strauss
I would expect you to have to translate the 15-char SPG group ID to the
actual 10-digit Group ID before the notification engine is going to be
able to understand it.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:19 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

Thanks for your email Lisa.

I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem to
work.

I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
- I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
work.

My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.





On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
 since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a
support
 group it doesn't have anything to notify.

 How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to notify?
 Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an additional
 set of criteria to identify that subset of people?

 I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it is
 definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

 Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
 have the Notification go to particular support groups?

 I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
 out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
 to go 6 different groups.

 Suggestions / ideas?

 THANK YOU!



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Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Kemes, Lisa
Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table?

I need to combine the results of both left and right outer joins. The
joined table will contain all records from both tables, and fill in
NULLs for missing matches on either side.

Our environment:
AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3
MT 7.0.1 Patch 5
Oracle 10i

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Re: Limiting Web Service Results

2008-07-23 Thread Frank Caruso
Any other suggestions on how to limit the number of rows returned from a Web
Service

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Frank Caruso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Don't see this as an option. I am on 6.3 p20


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 wrote:

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 *Hi Frank,*



 Yes, we can limit the number of rows returned while publishing the
 services in remedy.

 While creating web service for the get operation or get list operation in
 remedy, below the Qualification there is two options called *Start record
 * and *Max Limit*.

 Where we can limit the number of rows return.



 Hope this helps...



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 number of rows returned?
 Or, is there something I can do to the web service in Remedy to only allow
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
OK - i'm a little closer now - I added one group ID to z1D NT Support
Group ID and it works.  However, I need to add 5 more, and it does not
like that - when I try to submit an incident it gives me a SQL error.



On 7/23/08, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I set z1D NT Support Group ID with SGP0090 - the
 notification does not go out.

 If I don't set it my notification goes out.



 On 7/23/08, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for your email Lisa.
 
  I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem to 
  work.
 
  I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
  - I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
  work.
 
  My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
  people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
   since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a support
   group it doesn't have anything to notify.
  
   How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to notify?
   Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an additional
   set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
  
   I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it is
   definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.
  
   -Original Message-
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
   Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
  
   Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
   have the Notification go to particular support groups?
  
   I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
   out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
   to go 6 different groups.
  
   Suggestions / ideas?
  
   THANK YOU!
  
   
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread Run4Life Win
Hi Dee

You need to add all the group IDs in the filter notification ( same place
where you define single group name or ID)

Hope this works ...as I did this long time back :)

Thanks
Himanshu

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:48 AM, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
 have the Notification go to particular support groups?

 I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
 out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
The SGP group ID does work - the issue at hand is when I try to add
multiple groups.  I have tried separating them with semi-colons,
commas, spaces, etc.  Does not seem to work.



On 7/23/08, strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would expect you to have to translate the 15-char SPG group ID to the
 actual 10-digit Group ID before the notification engine is going to be
 able to understand it.

 Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
 Call Tracking Administration Manager
 University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
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 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:19 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

 Thanks for your email Lisa.

 I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem to
 work.

 I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
 - I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
 work.

 My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
 people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.





 On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
  since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a
 support
  group it doesn't have anything to notify.
 
  How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to notify?
  Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an additional
  set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
 
  I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it is
  definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
 
  Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
  have the Notification go to particular support groups?
 
  I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
  out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
  to go 6 different groups.
 
  Suggestions / ideas?
 
  THANK YOU!
 
 
 
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Installing ARWebReportViewer

2008-07-23 Thread Steven Iocco

Hi Folks.  I am trying to enable web reporting via the midtier.  I have 
sucessfully set up Crystal Report Server XI on a seperate machine using tomcat 
5.0.27.  I am in the process of installing the ARWebReportViewer on the crystal 
reports machine which does not have midtier and during the install (which is 
from the midtier exe) I am prompted with an error that Web Server Not Found.  
Does anyone know what web server is compatible with ARWebReportViewer?  If I 
proceed on the only options for web server and JSP engine is Other.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
Thanks Himanshu!

I added the support group IDs in the Set Fields to z1D NT Support Group ID.

If I Set just ONE (SGP0090) it works.  If I try to set more
then one like this:

SGP0090, SGP0070, SGP0089

I also tried spaces, semi colons, still nothing.

Anything else missing.

Thanks again!



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 Hi Dee

 You need to add all the group IDs in the filter notification ( same place
 where you define single group name or ID)

 Hope this works ...as I did this long time back :)

 Thanks
 Himanshu


 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:48 AM, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages and
  have the Notification go to particular support groups?
 
  I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
  out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it needs
  to go 6 different groups.
 
  Suggestions / ideas?
 
  THANK YOU!
 
 
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Product Operational Categories for Service Desk v7

2008-07-23 Thread Chris Ingalls
Hello List,

We are moving to v7 Service desk and would like to know what others are 
doing for the product and operational categories, best practices, etc. 
Would love to have some small examples or complete examples if you are 
willing to share.  Offline or to the group is great.

Mostly, we are struggling with product categorization level 2.  Should 
that be a business service offering as suggest in Malcolm Fry's book, and 
does that mean something like HR Services, IT Services, Account and 
Finance Services, etc.?

Thanks - Chris.

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Re: Product Operational Categories for Service Desk v7

2008-07-23 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
Are you going to be using BMC Discovery at all for CMDB or have plans to
move to any other module like SRM?

It's good to think it through and see if your future plans include other
modules. For example, Discovery has it's own product cats OOTB that may
not align with any custom structure you come up with. 

 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Sr. Analyst

Office: 631.858.7765

 



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doing for the product and operational categories, best practices, etc.
Would love to have some small examples or complete examples if you are
willing to share.  Offline or to the group is great. 

Mostly, we are struggling with product categorization level 2.  Should
that be a business service offering as suggest in Malcolm Fry's book,
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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Rick Cook
I misread the original question, and thought it was data export/import.
Code export/import could be done with Driver, couldn't it?

Rick

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Coleman, Gavin 
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 I've written a Project Tracking / Workflow export utility. This runs from
 the Remedy User tool. Users create Projects and then add lists of workflow
 to these projects. A custom built API then exports all the workflow from the
 Project.



 Unfortunately I can't share it with the list as it was written for a
 company and their rules prevent me from disclosing this. The main bulk of
 the work involves View forms looking at the back end Data Dictionary tables
 (I.e Actlink, arschema etc). With a bit of work, you could easily recreate
 this.



 Thanks



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 You could probably automate the process using the Remedy Administrator CLI
 (see the Integrating manual). But you would need a list of the objects to
 export (perhaps a packing list?) in order to do it. I've never taken the
 time to investigate this since it takes me only minutes to use the method I
 described below.



 Roger



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 Here again I need to manually do a selection to export. Is it possible to
 automate it ??

 Thanks and Regards,
 Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
 ( Remedy Skilled Professional )
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 Ganga,



 The easiest way I have figured out to migrate server objects from one
 server to another is to sort the objects by date modified, highlight the
 recently modified object(s) you need to migrate and then right click on one
 of them and export to a def file. I start with Forms then go on to the
 remaining objects. You can specify the same file to export to and click on
 the append button to add the new object type to the existing file. If you
 know all of the objects you need to migrate are related to specific forms,
 you can view by those forms and then the refresh of the object lists will
 take less time.



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 Remedy Consultant

 Bluestem Consulting Group, LLC

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 Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
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Re: Product Operational Categories for Service Desk v7

2008-07-23 Thread Rick Cook
That's a good idea.  If you aren't using Discovery, at least use the DSL as
a starting place for your Product Cats.  It will allow for standardization
and will be easier to reconcile with Discovery if you integrate with it at a
later date.

For Operational Categorizations, I would suggest that you read a paper I
recently wrote on the subject, and include that in your decision making
process.  If you don't have an account at BMCDN, I'd suggest creating one -
there's lots of useful stuff there.

http://developer.bmc.com/jiveProd/entry.jspa?externalID=3231

Rick

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 Are you going to be using BMC Discovery at all for CMDB or have plans to
 move to any other module like SRM?

 It's good to think it through and see if your future plans include other
 modules. For example, Discovery has it's own product cats OOTB that may not
 align with any custom structure you come up with.



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 *Subject:* Product  Operational Categories for Service Desk v7



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 Hello List,

 We are moving to v7 Service desk and would like to know what others are
 doing for the product and operational categories, best practices, etc.
  Would love to have some small examples or complete examples if you are
 willing to share.  Offline or to the group is great.

 Mostly, we are struggling with product categorization level 2.  Should that
 be a business service offering as suggest in Malcolm Fry's book, and does
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Have you tried returns? 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:16 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

The SGP group ID does work - the issue at hand is when I try to add
multiple groups.  I have tried separating them with semi-colons, commas,
spaces, etc.  Does not seem to work.


On 7/23/08, strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would expect you to have to translate the 15-char SPG group ID to 
 the actual 10-digit Group ID before the notification engine is going 
 to be able to understand it.

 Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
 Call Tracking Administration Manager
 University of North Texas Computing  IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:19 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

 Thanks for your email Lisa.

 I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem 
 to work.

 I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
 - I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't 
 work.

 My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right 
 people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.



 On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but 
  since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a
 support
  group it doesn't have anything to notify.
 
  How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to
notify?
  Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an 
  additional set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
 
  I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it 
  is definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
 
  Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages 
  and have the Notification go to particular support groups?
 
  I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go

  out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it 
  needs to go 6 different groups.
 
  Suggestions / ideas?
 
  THANK YOU!
 
 


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Weird mid-tier issue - workstation specific

2008-07-23 Thread William Rentfrow
System Specs: Mid-tier 7.1 on Solaris with IBM http server + Websphere,
AR Server 7.1 on Solaris (separate server).
 
We have an issue which defies explanation right now.
 
Someone (aka me) accidentally flushed the cache of a mid-tier server
while a training class was going on.  Basically no harm was done for
most users - they were back up and running in no time.
 
3 users however get an error when trying to view an Incident in the IM
Console - they get a message that says:
 
Caught exception:'mHaveVisualCharacteristics' is null or not an object
 
Using the same user ID's on a separate machine works just fine - so I
think it's workstation specific.  But clearing the IE cache + cookies
does not help.  Rebooting the AR Server and flushing the mid-tier
doesn't help either.
 
Once a workstation is hosed - we can't fix it.  
 
 
 
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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
Tried it, but when I went to save the ticket I got a SQL error - does
not like commas, semi-colons or returns.



On 7/23/08, Grooms, Frederick W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you tried returns?

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:16 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

 The SGP group ID does work - the issue at hand is when I try to add
 multiple groups.  I have tried separating them with semi-colons, commas,
 spaces, etc.  Does not seem to work.


 On 7/23/08, strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would expect you to have to translate the 15-char SPG group ID to
  the actual 10-digit Group ID before the notification engine is going
  to be able to understand it.
 
  Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
  Call Tracking Administration Manager
  University of North Texas Computing  IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:19 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
 
  Thanks for your email Lisa.
 
  I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem
  to work.
 
  I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
  - I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
  work.
 
  My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
  people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.
 
 
 
  On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
   since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a
  support
   group it doesn't have anything to notify.
  
   How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to
 notify?
   Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an
   additional set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
  
   I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it
   is definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
   Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
  
   Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages
   and have the Notification go to particular support groups?
  
   I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go

   out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it
   needs to go 6 different groups.
  
   Suggestions / ideas?
  
   THANK YOU!
  
  
 

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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread T. Dee
I tried a computed group - didn't like that.

I have created a filter for each group and that seems to work - but
that is alot of unnecessary work to notify each group.

Any others ideas / suggestions?

Thanks!


On 7/23/08, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tried it, but when I went to save the ticket I got a SQL error - does
 not like commas, semi-colons or returns.



 On 7/23/08, Grooms, Frederick W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Have you tried returns?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:16 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
 
  The SGP group ID does work - the issue at hand is when I try to add
  multiple groups.  I have tried separating them with semi-colons, commas,
  spaces, etc.  Does not seem to work.
 
 
  On 7/23/08, strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I would expect you to have to translate the 15-char SPG group ID to
   the actual 10-digit Group ID before the notification engine is going
   to be able to understand it.
  
   Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
   Call Tracking Administration Manager
   University of North Texas Computing  IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
   Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:19 AM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
  
   Thanks for your email Lisa.
  
   I have tried setting z1D NT Support Group ID, but this does not seem
   to work.
  
   I looked up one of the groups that I want to notify - SGP0090
   - I tried to set this field to z1D NT Support Group ID, but didn't
   work.
  
   My notification is working - I just need to get to notify the right
   people.  I want it to notify everyone in the group SGP0090.
  
  
  
   On 7/23/08, Lisa Westerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had tried using the $Group ID$ field, the $Group Name$ field, but
since there's not really an email or contact# associated with a
   support
group it doesn't have anything to notify.
   
How do you identify that those are the six groups you want to
  notify?
Do you want to tell everyone in that group, or is there an
additional set of criteria to identify that subset of people?
   
I'm interested in determining this functionality as well because it
is definitely a gap in functionality OOTB that clients are missing.
   
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:49 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7
   
Has anyone done a custom notification in SYS:Notificaiton Messages
and have the Notification go to particular support groups?
   
I have no issues with creating a custom notification - which does go
 
out - the only issue is i'm not sure how to tell Remedy that it
needs to go 6 different groups.
   
Suggestions / ideas?
   
THANK YOU!
   
   
  
 
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Re: Weird mid-tier issue - workstation specific

2008-07-23 Thread Axton
Hold down CTRL+Shift and press the refresh button in the browser after
acknowledging the error on the mid-tier page.  If you want to see the
root of the issue, compare the cached js files from the mid-tier
server on the problematic workstation and the working workstation.

Axton Grams

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 **
 System Specs: Mid-tier 7.1 on Solaris with IBM http server + Websphere, AR
 Server 7.1 on Solaris (separate server).

 We have an issue which defies explanation right now.

 Someone (aka me) accidentally flushed the cache of a mid-tier server while
 a training class was going on.  Basically no harm was done for most users -
 they were back up and running in no time.

 3 users however get an error when trying to view an Incident in the IM
 Console - they get a message that says:

 Caught exception:'mHaveVisualCharacteristics' is null or not an object

 Using the same user ID's on a separate machine works just fine - so I think
 it's workstation specific.  But clearing the IE cache + cookies does not
 help.  Rebooting the AR Server and flushing the mid-tier doesn't help
 either.

 Once a workstation is hosed - we can't fix it.



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Unable to start ARS

2008-07-23 Thread Anoop Sasidharan

Lister
 
I m getting error message unable to create (390600, 0) for TCP: while starting 
ARS.
I have able to see the arserverd and TCP is running.
 
Has anyone faced similar issue?
 
ARS 6.3
LINUX OS AS/3
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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Brian Goralczyk
Fred,

I have been using Remedy for over 8 years, and it has always been called a
Helpdesk application by people outside of the Remedy world.  Granted I never
describe it as such, and I correct everybody I can, but the fact remains, if
you are not on the backside of Remedy, you seem to relate it to a helpdesk
application.  That might be because that is how it has been pushed and
utilized for a decade plus.

I have to say, I am not sure that ARS is dying either.  Granted I know the
in thing these days is ITSM, but that doesn't mean that once they get it
into a company that they company doesn't realize they can use it for other
things.  I think of the problems is that there are a lot of people who gte
put into the feed and care part of the system and only get trained on what
they need to know i.e. ITSM.  I have also found that there are many cases
where these people don't know anything about Remedy and don't get any formal
training.  They are given books and told to figure it out.  In fact, most
projects that I have been on, the FTEs don't even know about the list.

So where is the fault?  Is it BMC for trying to make more money (and they
seem to be selling a lot of ITSM licenses) or is it the companies for not
sending their employees for proper trainiing?  Or as is often the case, does
the blame fall a little bit on everyone?

Brian

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmmm...we'll see.  I don't think just releasing a new version of the
 Admin tool (based on existing open source code) will do much to
 reinvigorate the ARS when BMC has discarded the Your Business -- Your
 Way approach.

 I've seen just one job posting for a custom developer recently...before
 that, it seems every single one was for an ITSM configurator.  With
 fewer custom development jobs, developers are bound to leave the field
 for other toolsets where pastures are greener.  When they leave, the ARS
 loses its biggest advocates of Remedy as a rapid app development tool.
 As you lose advocates, you lose word of mouth, which is what grew Remedy
 into what it is.

 I honestly don't think ITSM will drive anyone to think, Hey look at
 this cool development tool we have at our disposal. Instead, I think
 the mentality is more and more becoming, Hey, cowboy! Don't touch that!
 It's too complicated.  We don't want you breaking our OOTB solution.

 I think lowering the price and attracting new people in to build apps of
 all sorts and sizes is the only thing that will make the ARS a viable
 platform in the eyes of many businesses.

 Think about it...ask just about any outsider about Remedy and typically
 (not always) they say something along the lines of, Oh yeah...that's
 that Help Desk thing, right? not, Oh yeah...that's that awesome rapid
 app toolset! I can't ever remember talking to an outsider (a network
 engineer, a CIO, an IT specialist, etc.) who knew you could build
 applications with Remedy.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:12 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

  **
 I have to take some exception to your first remark, Norm.  If the ARS
 were dying a slow death, why would BMC bring out a new Administrator
 tool (7.5) that will EXPAND the developer's ability to do core ARS
 development?  I know that part of the reason for that is that it's old
 technology that's in the way of some architectural advances that need to
 take place, but that's my point.  AR System developers will, with 7.5,
 have the ability to build things we can't even imagine doing now.  How
 many software companies give developers like us that much power over
 their OOB applications?

 In my opinion, the core AR System development, which has taken a back
 seat (maybe in the trunk) to OOB apps for a few years now, WILL be
 making a renaissance in the next few years as companies that bought ITSM
 increasingly realize that with it, they got a pretty good workflow
 engine that is easy to integrate with their ITSM products.  I take great
 pains to point out to new Remedy/ITSM customers that every part of that
 application suite was built with the same workflow engine they have at
 their disposal, and that a skilled and experienced development team can
 build an application to support any business function with it.

 I don't see AR System ever being the financial driver that it used to
 be, as the revenue model will always be more robust for OOB apps.  But
 it can and should return to being more of a technological driver in the
 next 2-3 years.

 I do agree that an MSDN-like arrangement would be a net win for both BMC
 and for the developers.  I have heard Doug say he's proposed it many
 times.  I hope he continues to do so until his wisdom is accepted.

 Rick


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

2008-07-23 Thread Janie
Also take a look at the fields that are being updated on SRM:Survey and
SRM:Survey_ResponseHolder.  I don't believe that those fields have
'Submitter' change permissions on them which would in turn prevent a user
from updating them even if the Submitter was set to the correct login name.

 

Janie

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

You are correct Peter.  The assumption is that the person filling out the
survey (from the Requester Console), is also the person who submitted the
initial request.  Otherwise, I don't think that the survey would even show
up in the Requester's console to complete.

 

Leonard

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

I believe in addition to what you listed below, the Submitter of each
SRM:Survey record must be set to the requester that has the read access that
is receiving the survey link.

 

Otherwise the system will not let those Read licensed users update tickets
submitted by other ids (only allow them to update records submitted with
their ID).

 

 

Thanks 
Peter Lammey 
ESPN MIT Technical Services  Applications Management 
860-766-4761 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:10 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

** 

Hi Lei,

We ran into a similar issue with Surveys (write license error) and found
that  the following conditions had to exist in order to make it work.

1.  The server is in Submitter Mode (Locked) 
2.  A user record exist in CTM:People (read license) 
3.  A user record exists in the (User) form. 

Note: A survey record is not created by the requester when they fill out the
survey in the Requester console.  The survey record is created when the
incident is resolved by a support staff person.  When the requester fills
out the survey, they are Responding to and existing survey record, and
thus, a modification to the record is made.  We also found that the
conditions mentioned above also needed to exist in order for the requester
to be able to Reopen an incident from the requester console.

HTH

Leonard Neely

 

Column Technologies 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liu, Lei
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

Does anyone have suggestions? I tried on my fresh VM this morning, but got
the same Write License Error.

Regards,

Lei 

 

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From: Liu, Lei
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 12:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

Hi,

We turned on our survey last week, but end users with requester console
access only had reported that they had a write licence error whenever they
submitted surveys. However their answers indeed went into SRM:Survey form
(with users' logon as submitter). The Submitter Mode on server is set to
Locked.

Did anyone encounter this issue before? Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lei

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Re: Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Janie
OOB Joins are Left Outer from Parent to Child forms.  Not Full Left/Right
Outer..  

 

Someone else may have additional thoughts on how to simulate a Full Outer
join within the confines of AR System joins, but as far as I know what you
are trying to do may have to be rethought for a different approach..

 

Janie

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Full Outer Joins?

 

Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table? 

I need to combine the results of both left and right outer joins. The joined
table will contain all records from both tables, and fill in NULLs for
missing matches on either side.

Our environment: 
AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3 
MT 7.0.1 Patch 5 
Oracle 10i 

Lisa Kemes 
AR System Developer 
Tyco Electronics 
717-810-2408 tel 
717-810-2124 fax 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

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Re: Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
I do one by creating an Oracle db View and then putting a Remedy view
form against that.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janie
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Full Outer Joins?



OOB Joins are Left Outer from Parent to Child forms.  Not Full
Left/Right Outer  

 

Someone else may have additional thoughts on how to simulate a Full
Outer join within the confines of AR System joins, but as far as I know
what you are trying to do may have to be rethought for a different
approach

 

Janie



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Full Outer Joins?

 

Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table? 

I need to combine the results of both left and right outer joins. The
joined table will contain all records from both tables, and fill in
NULLs for missing matches on either side.

Our environment: 
AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3 
MT 7.0.1 Patch 5 
Oracle 10i 

Lisa Kemes 
AR System Developer 
Tyco Electronics 
717-810-2408 tel 
717-810-2124 fax 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 


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Re: Installing ARWebReportViewer

2008-07-23 Thread William Rentfrow
What web server are you using?  As I recall it did not recognize IBM
HTTP server.
 
You can select the other option.



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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Installing ARWebReportViewer


** Hi Folks.  I am trying to enable web reporting via the midtier.  I
have sucessfully set up Crystal Report Server XI on a seperate machine
using tomcat 5.0.27.  I am in the process of installing the
ARWebReportViewer on the crystal reports machine which does not have
midtier and during the install (which is from the midtier exe) I am
prompted with an error that Web Server Not Found.  Does anyone know
what web server is compatible with ARWebReportViewer?  If I proceed on
the only options for web server and JSP engine is Other.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
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Re: Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Brian Goralczyk
There is always the option to create a join view in the database and
throwing a view form on top of that.  It would allow you to perform database
functions that Remedy just won't do.

HTH,

Brian

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Janie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 **

 OOB Joins are Left Outer from Parent to Child forms.  Not Full Left/Right
 Outer….



 Someone else may have additional thoughts on how to simulate a Full Outer
 join within the confines of AR System joins, but as far as I know what you
 are trying to do may have to be rethought for a different approach….



 Janie
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 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Full Outer Joins?



 Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table?

 I need to combine the results of both left and right outer joins. The
 joined table will contain all records from both tables, and fill in NULLs
 for missing matches on either side.

 Our environment:
 AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3
 MT 7.0.1 Patch 5
 Oracle 10i

 *Lisa Kemes** *
 AR System Developer
 Tyco Electronics
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 717-810-2124 fax
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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
Yes, of course Remedy is called a Help Desk application BUT THAT'S
WRONG! That's part of my point.  It's NOT just a Help Desk application.
It's an application development platform that just *happens* to commonly
run Help Desk apps because that's the niche it fell into.

My point is, to survive, it needs to break that paradigm.  And the best
way is to get people writing apps that are not just Help Desk.  Need to
track monthly sales? Use Remedy. Need a visitor sign-in log? Use Remedy.
Need a company web page? Use Remedy.  Need an equipment checkout form?
Use Remedy.  Need to track pending orders? Use Remedy.  Need a
company-wide list of handy telephone numbers? Use Remedy.  Need to track
employee training? Use Remedy.

That's the way the marketing should be, in my opinion, but the problem
is, the expensive licensing makes all of that impractical.  Why make
your visitor sign-in log in Remedy and burn up costly user licenses when
you can make a similar app (certainly not as good) in Access?  Now
please don't bombard me with messages saying something like, Well, the
reason you'd use Remedy and not Access is because Remedy is so good
at... That's not my point.  My point is that people will use other
tools (Access is just an example) and endure a lesser resulting product
because the other tools are so much more affordable.  Access doesn't
have all the awesome capability of Remedy, but it's AFFORDABLE.

Then people say, Yeah, but if they reduced the cost of the ARS, they
wouldn't make any money! To that I contend that ARS is such an awesome,
robust, and easy-to-use solution, BMC would make much more money by
selling in VOLUME.

Here's what I envision: Sell ARS at around $500 with NO support.  If you
buy this version, you have to pay for support on a case-by-case basis
like Microsoft.  Or use the ARSList.  Or you could buy a support
contract for X amount of dollars for unlimited support.  Then think--ARS
could be anywhere and everywhere.  You could buy a copy and take it home
and use it to stand up a personal web server.  Or smaller development
companies could buy it, write apps, and then sell the apps with the ARS
bundled into the price.  Say you write a shipping system.  You could
charge $1000 for the app you wrote and $500 for the ARS to go with it.
Total bill: $1500.  One stop shop.  Right now there are a few third
parties writing ARS-based apps (ESS @ Work) but how frightening is that?
You pour your heart and soul into writing an app in Remedy and then get
an interested party who wants to buy it but then have to tell them,
Yeah, we sell this awesome product, but to use it, you first have to go
to ANOTHER company and buy THEIR product for $25,000. Man, that's a
tough sell.

And the reason why people get thrust into Remedy without training is
because management doesn't realize what Remedy truly is and what it is
truly capable of because of the *paradigm*...that is, the Help Desk
STIGMA.  If the ARS was more affordable, it could be marketed to a much
wider audience and the paradigm could be broken.

That's my point.  Please excuse the long rant.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Goralczyk
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

** 
Fred,
 
I have been using Remedy for over 8 years, and it has always been called
a Helpdesk application by people outside of the Remedy world.  Granted I
never describe it as such, and I correct everybody I can, but the fact
remains, if you are not on the backside of Remedy, you seem to relate it
to a helpdesk application.  That might be because that is how it has
been pushed and utilized for a decade plus.
 
I have to say, I am not sure that ARS is dying either.  Granted I know
the in thing these days is ITSM, but that doesn't mean that once they
get it into a company that they company doesn't realize they can use it
for other things.  I think of the problems is that there are a lot of
people who gte put into the feed and care part of the system and only
get trained on what they need to know i.e. ITSM.  I have also found that
there are many cases where these people don't know anything about Remedy
and don't get any formal training.  They are given books and told to
figure it out.  In fact, most projects that I have been on, the FTEs
don't even know about the list.
 
So where is the fault?  Is it BMC for trying to make more money (and
they seem to be selling a lot of ITSM licenses) or is it the companies
for not sending their employees for proper trainiing?  Or as is often
the case, does the blame fall a little bit on everyone?
 
Brian


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hmmm...we'll see.  I don't think just releasing a new version of
the
Admin tool (based on existing open source code) will do much to
reinvigorate the ARS when BMC has discarded the Your Business

Limiting SQL select statements by AGE

2008-07-23 Thread Payne, George
ARS 7.0.01 P05

DB Oracle 10g

 

I'm looking to make a Set Fields Filter Action to Count the number of
records in an ARS Table where the value of the field is '1' and the
record is more than 1 week old.

 

This SQL works fine (returns a value for $1$ of =392):

 

SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1

 

But it fails when I try to add the criteria for the age of the record
(throws an error: ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the
database : ORA-00904: 07/23/08 14:06:46-604800: invalid identifier):

 

SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1 AND
C3$TIMESTAMP$-604800

 

I've used the $TIMESTAMP$-604800 worked from an Advanced Search on the
User Tool...I'm sure it's just something to do with either my SQL syntax
or the way the Create Date (C3) is stored on the database.  I know
it's out there as number of seconds since 1/1/70, but the error seems to
indicate that the $TIMESTAMP$ is being interpreted as 07/23/08
14:06:46.  Maybe I need to use a FUNCTION for Timestamp that Oracle
understands??

 

Thanks in advance,

George

 

George Payne

Corporate Applications Developer

Electric Reliability Council of Texas

(512) 248-3940

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Re: Help with a UNIX script to STOP the AREmail daemon

2008-07-23 Thread Payne, George
Awesome, that works from the command prompt just as you described.

Now I just need to gin up an escalation to fire that RUN PROCESS.

Thanks,
Gp

George Payne
Corporate Applications Developer
Electric Reliability Council of Texas
(512) 248-3940
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Help with a UNIX script to STOP the AREmail daemon

Hi George,

Interestingly enough we see the same thing with the window email
engine. It has bee a few years but you should be able to call
emaild.sh script (I think that is the name) and give it a stop
parameter. Once armonitor sees that it is stopped it should
automatically start up again.

Jason



On 7/18/08, Payne, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey gang...



 Occasionally the ARSystem Email Engine will just stop working.  The
 DAEMON is running and so the ARMONITOR does not realize that the
service
 needs to be re-started because the PROCESS is still running.



 What I would like to do is have an ESCALATION run a PROCESS on the
 server to KILL the AREmail process so that ARMONITOR would
automatically
 restart it.



 One caution:
  I don't want to run it against EVERY unsent email message in the
 queue...it just needs to run against the OLDEST with a status of SEND.



 Has anyone written such an escalation and the associated SCRIPT that
 would have to be written to the UNIX side of the process call?



 You help, as always, would be greatly appreciated!


 Thanks,
 Gp



 George Payne

 Corporate Applications Developer

 Electric Reliability Council of Texas

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Re: Installing ARWebReportViewer

2008-07-23 Thread Steven Iocco

Thanks William.  All I have on the crystal reports machine is tomcat 5.0.27 and 
it runs crystal server fine.  Will I need to install IIS on the same machine to 
use the ARWebReportViewer?
 



Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:54:17 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Installing 
ARWebReportViewerTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

What web server are you using?  As I recall it did not recognize IBM HTTP 
server.
 
You can select the other option.


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PROTECTED]: Installing ARWebReportViewer
** 

Hi Folks.  I am trying to enable web reporting via the midtier.  I have 
sucessfully set up Crystal Report Server XI on a seperate machine using tomcat 
5.0.27.  I am in the process of installing the ARWebReportViewer on the crystal 
reports machine which does not have midtier and during the install (which is 
from the midtier exe) I am prompted with an error that Web Server Not Found.  
Does anyone know what web server is compatible with ARWebReportViewer?  If I 
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Re: Help with a UNIX script to STOP the AREmail daemon

2008-07-23 Thread Payne, George
Hey Chris,

I've written a nightly escalation to move email messages older than 1
week off to an archive file.

I'll be glad to share that with you if you like.  Just contact me
directly.

Gp

George Payne
Corporate Applications Developer
Electric Reliability Council of Texas
(512) 248-3940
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Subject: Re: Help with a UNIX script to STOP the AREmail daemon

I'm hoping to avoid having to do the same thing (Windows env) here, that
is, build a custom aremail watchdog to kick-start the service when email
starts stacking up. Our AREMail 7.1.00.002 engine has been dying
silently and randomly for over a month now, sometimes after a java error
in the stderr.log and sometimes with no error at all.  It has taken a
month to get support to escalate it, so they are dragging this out as
long as possible.  It often dies in the middle of sending out a set of
standard group assignment or ownership notifications, leaving the flag
on the last message sent at Yes so that when we restart it goes out
again.  When it hangs, the service does not shut down properly since the
Windows service wrapper still thinks it is running but it is not - you
get an error about response time.

Maybe it is due in part to the number of messages lying around in the
email form - I haven't had time to invent the missing data maintenance
on that form (or any others in the ITSM 7 hidden data time bomb), so it
is approaching 50K of entries already.

The occasional java error we see is a new one on me:

java.rmi.ConnectIOException: error during JRMP connection establishment;
nested exception is: 
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
at sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPChannel.createConnection(Unknown
Source)
at sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPChannel.newConnection(Unknown
Source)
at sun.rmi.server.UnicastRef.newCall(Unknown Source)
at sun.rmi.registry.RegistryImpl_Stub.rebind(Unknown Source)
at java.rmi.Naming.rebind(Unknown Source)
at
com.bmc.arsys.emaildaemon.EmailDaemon.newInstance(EmailDaemon.java:180)
at
com.bmc.arsys.emaildaemon.EmailDaemon.startMonitor(EmailDaemon.java:864)
at
com.bmc.arsys.emaildaemon.EmailDaemon.executeComandLine(EmailDaemon.java
:592)
at
com.bmc.arsys.emaildaemon.EmailDaemon.main(EmailDaemon.java:313)
Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
at java.io.BufferedInputStream.fill(Unknown Source)
at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
at java.io.DataInputStream.readByte(Unknown Source)
... 9 more

Has anyone observed more stable behavior from AREmail 7.1.00.003?  I
haven't been in the office enough this month to get any of the new
patches up and running in a test/dev environment.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:43 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Help with a UNIX script to STOP the AREmail daemon
 
 George,
 
 On the Unix's the script emaild.sh should get the job done to start or
 stop the email engine. ( Email-Engine-710.pdf pg 41 has details)
 
 A single run process should get the job done.
 
 email_engine_install_dir/emaild.sh stop
 ;email_engine_install_dir/emaild.sh start ;
 
 You can likely find  email_engine_install_dir  with this:
 
 grep emaild /etc/arsystem/ hostname /armonitor.conf
 
 
 As far as using an ARS application to do the stop/start... well...
 here is what I would suggest..
 
 1) Create a new form that you use data in the form to decide to run
 the Escalation and to hang filters off of so that you can have much
 more advanced logic for your Escalation processes.
 
 2) Create a row in this new form that indicates that Escalations X
 should run by using a character field that you put the name of the
 escalation into and using a 'Status'  = Run (or some other string
 that you like).
 
 3) Create the Escalation to check this new form with a run if like
 this:
  'ESC Name' = X AND 'Status' = Run
   Note: You may want to have a unique index on the 'ESC Name', or not,
 depending on your total needs. You could also add a date time field so
 that your Escalation could check every hour, and your date time field
 could be updated by other processing to skip an hour for example.
 
 4) Have the Escalation do a SET FIELD action to the one row(s) that
 you find. This will trigger Filters on the new form in MODIFY.
 
 5) Then write whatever logic you need in the filters.
 For this case... maybe do a set field (from a filter) for email
 message in the queue 

Re: Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Kemes, Lisa
I talked to my DB guy about the View on the DB and he is telling me that
it's not really a view.  Here's what I gave him:
 
SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4

FROM TABLEA LEFT JOIN TABLEB ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1

UNION 

SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4

FROM TABLEB LEFT JOIN TABLEA ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1

 

He said he is going to look into this further, but I think it's a view
right?

Lisa 

 



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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Full Outer Joins?


** 
There is always the option to create a join view in the database and
throwing a view form on top of that.  It would allow you to perform
database functions that Remedy just won't do.
 
HTH,
 
Brian


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Janie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


** 

OOB Joins are Left Outer from Parent to Child forms.  Not Full
Left/Right Outer  

 

Someone else may have additional thoughts on how to simulate a
Full Outer join within the confines of AR System joins, but as far as I
know what you are trying to do may have to be rethought for a different
approach

 

Janie





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Full Outer Joins?

 

Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table? 

I need to combine the results of both left and right outer
joins. The joined table will contain all records from both tables, and
fill in NULLs for missing matches on either side.

Our environment: 
AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3 
MT 7.0.1 Patch 5 
Oracle 10i 

Lisa Kemes 
AR System Developer 
Tyco Electronics 
717-810-2408 tel 
717-810-2124 fax 
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Re: Limiting SQL select statements by AGE

2008-07-23 Thread Axton
ad-u15 select sysdate from dual
  2  /

SYSDATE
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23-JUL-08

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Payne, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 **

 ARS 7.0.01 P05

 DB Oracle 10g



 I'm looking to make a Set Fields Filter Action to Count the number of
 records in an ARS Table where the value of the field is '1' and the record
 is more than 1 week old.



 This SQL works fine (returns a value for $1$ of =392):



 SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1



 But it fails when I try to add the criteria for the age of the record
 (throws an error: ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database :
 ORA-00904: 07/23/08 14:06:46-604800: invalid identifier):



 SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1 AND C3$TIMESTAMP$-604800



 I've used the $TIMESTAMP$-604800 worked from an Advanced Search on the
 User Tool…I'm sure it's just something to do with either my SQL syntax or
 the way the Create Date (C3) is stored on the database.  I know it's out
 there as number of seconds since 1/1/70, but the error seems to indicate
 that the $TIMESTAMP$ is being interpreted as 07/23/08 14:06:46.  Maybe I
 need to use a FUNCTION for Timestamp that Oracle understands??



 Thanks in advance,

 George



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RES: Limiting SQL select statements by AGE

2008-07-23 Thread Tadeu Augusto Dutra Pinto
Hi,
 
Try to use 
 
SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1 AND C3'$TIMESTAMP$'-604800
 
on the contrary of
 
SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1 AND C3$TIMESTAMP$-604800
 
 
Att,

Tadeu Augusto Dutra Pinto
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Cinq Technologies
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Enviada: qua 23/7/2008 16:09
Para: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Assunto: Limiting SQL select statements by AGE


** 

ARS 7.0.01 P05

DB Oracle 10g

 

I'm looking to make a Set Fields Filter Action to Count the number of records 
in an ARS Table where the value of the field is '1' and the record is more than 
1 week old.

 

This SQL works fine (returns a value for $1$ of =392):

 

SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1

 

But it fails when I try to add the criteria for the age of the record (throws 
an error: ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00904: 
07/23/08 14:06:46-604800: invalid identifier):

 

SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1 AND C3$TIMESTAMP$-604800

 

I've used the $TIMESTAMP$-604800 worked from an Advanced Search on the User 
Tool...I'm sure it's just something to do with either my SQL syntax or the way 
the Create Date (C3) is stored on the database.  I know it's out there as 
number of seconds since 1/1/70, but the error seems to indicate that the 
$TIMESTAMP$ is being interpreted as 07/23/08 14:06:46.  Maybe I need to use 
a FUNCTION for Timestamp that Oracle understands??

 

Thanks in advance,

George

 

George Payne

Corporate Applications Developer

Electric Reliability Council of Texas

(512) 248-3940

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Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

2008-07-23 Thread Liu, Lei
Thanks for all your replies.
 
It does work when user (read license) goes to Requestor Console - View Survey 
and fill out that way. We send out a survey email whenever a service request is 
completed. User always clicks the link in this email, which points to 
corresponding survey entry. With Single-Sign-On, s/he fills out and submits. 
Write License Error occurs when s/he only has read license.
 
Lei



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Sent: Wed 7/23/2008 1:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error


** 

Also take a look at the fields that are being updated on SRM:Survey and 
SRM:Survey_ResponseHolder.  I don't believe that those fields have 'Submitter' 
change permissions on them which would in turn prevent a user from updating 
them even if the Submitter was set to the correct login name.

 

Janie



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On Behalf Of Leonard Neely - FOJ
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

You are correct Peter.  The assumption is that the person filling out the 
survey (from the Requester Console), is also the person who submitted the 
initial request.  Otherwise, I don't think that the survey would even show up 
in the Requester's console to complete.

 

Leonard

 



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On Behalf Of Lammey, Peter A.
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

I believe in addition to what you listed below, the Submitter of each 
SRM:Survey record must be set to the requester that has the read access that is 
receiving the survey link.

 

Otherwise the system will not let those Read licensed users update tickets 
submitted by other ids (only allow them to update records submitted with their 
ID).

 

 

Thanks 
Peter Lammey 
ESPN MIT Technical Services  Applications Management 
860-766-4761 

 

 



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On Behalf Of Leonard Neely - FOJ
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:10 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

** 

Hi Lei,

We ran into a similar issue with Surveys (write license error) and found that  
the following conditions had to exist in order to make it work.

1.  The server is in Submitter Mode (Locked) 
2.  A user record exist in CTM:People (read license) 
3.  A user record exists in the (User) form. 

Note: A survey record is not created by the requester when they fill out the 
survey in the Requester console.  The survey record is created when the 
incident is resolved by a support staff person.  When the requester fills out 
the survey, they are Responding to and existing survey record, and thus, a 
modification to the record is made.  We also found that the conditions 
mentioned above also needed to exist in order for the requester to be able to 
Reopen an incident from the requester console.

HTH

Leonard Neely

 

Column Technologies 

 



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On Behalf Of Liu, Lei
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

 

Does anyone have suggestions? I tried on my fresh VM this morning, but got the 
same Write License Error.

Regards,

Lei 

 



From: Liu, Lei
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 12:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ITSM Survey Write Licence Error

Hi,

We turned on our survey last week, but end users with requester console access 
only had reported that they had a write licence error whenever they submitted 
surveys. However their answers indeed went into SRM:Survey form (with users' 
logon as submitter). The Submitter Mode on server is set to Locked.

Did anyone encounter this issue before? Any suggestions?

Regards,

Lei

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Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

2008-07-23 Thread Leonard Neely - FOJ
The concept of your multiple filter workaround is most likely what you will
need to do to accomplish this.  However, that sounds pretty Static and if
those groups ever need to change, that would translate into a workflow
modification as opposed to a data configuration change.

 

We had a similar requirement for Change Management (CM) Application, in that
whenever a change request moved to a status of Scheduled, we needed to
send a notification to all HelpDesk groups (as defined on the Support Group
form).  In our case, this was about 4 groups.

 

To accomplish this, we ended up:

1.Placing a table field (hidden) on the CM form which listed all support
Groups defined as Help Desk.

2.Created a Filter to set the z1D Notification Message Tag on the CM
form to the value for the custom notification message, then call a Filter
Guide.

3.Created a Filter Guide that loops though this table records to get the
support group id for each one and sets the 'z1D NT Support Group ID'.

 

If all this is done between execution order 947 -948, the OOTB Notification
workflow should pickup from there.  It's a lot of work, but if you want to
accomplish this using NTE, I think you will need to build something like
this.

 

HTH

 

Leonard

 

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Dee
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:20 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: QUESTION: SYS:Notification Messages - ITSM 7

 

I tried a computed group - didn't like that.

 

I have created a filter for each group and that seems to work - but

that is alot of unnecessary work to notify each group.

 

Any others ideas / suggestions?

 

Thanks!

 

 

On 7/23/08, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tried it, but when I went to save the ticket I got a SQL error - does

 not like commas, semi-colons or returns.

 

 

 

 On 7/23/08, Grooms, Frederick W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Have you tried returns?

 

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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread Ganga Prasad
Seems interesting. Seems like distributing pressure to hunt for all
workflows. Can you please explain how this Packing List is done by
individual Developer ??

Thanks and Regards,
Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
-


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:58 PM, LJ Longwing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** The methodology that we have adopted at my current job works well.
 Each developer that needs to have stuff moved from Dev to Test creates a
 packing list and puts all of their stuff into that PL.  When it comes time
 to move from Dev to Test you simply add the contents of each PL to the
 export, and that is your def file...no hunting for that elusive AL.

  --
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ganga Prasad
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:29 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Export Automation -- Possible ??

 ** Hi List

 As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using
 my  Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and
 put it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I
 need to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
 tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...

 Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
 point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

 ARS 7.0
 Oracle 10G
 NO ITSM


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Re: Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
You gave him the select statement for a view
 
A view would be something like
 
Create or Replace VIEW My_View_Name 
(TABLEA_COL1, TABLEA_COL2, TABLEA_COL3, TABLEA_COL4, TABLEB_COL1,
TABLEB_COL2, TABLEB_COL3, TABLEB_COL4)
as
(
SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4
FROM TABLEA LEFT JOIN TABLEB ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1
UNION 
SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4
FROM TABLEB LEFT JOIN TABLEA ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1
)

Fred
 




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:46 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Full Outer Joins?


I talked to my DB guy about the View on the DB and he is telling me that
it's not really a view.  Here's what I gave him:
 
SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4

FROM TABLEA LEFT JOIN TABLEB ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1

UNION 

SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4

FROM TABLEB LEFT JOIN TABLEA ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1

 

He said he is going to look into this further, but I think it's a view
right?

Lisa 

 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Goralczyk
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:56 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Full Outer Joins?


** 
There is always the option to create a join view in the database and
throwing a view form on top of that.  It would allow you to perform
database functions that Remedy just won't do.
 
HTH,
 
Brian


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Janie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  

OOB Joins are Left Outer from Parent to Child forms.  Not Full
Left/Right Outer  

Someone else may have additional thoughts on how to simulate a
Full Outer join within the confines of AR System joins, but as far as I
know what you are trying to do may have to be rethought for a different
approach

Janie





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Full Outer Joins?

Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table? 

I need to combine the results of both left and right outer
joins. The joined table will contain all records from both tables, and
fill in NULLs for missing matches on either side.

Our environment: 
AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3 
MT 7.0.1 Patch 5 
Oracle 10i 

Lisa Kemes 
AR System Developer 
Tyco Electronics 
717-810-2408 tel 
717-810-2124 fax 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
 

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Re: Limiting SQL select statements by AGE

2008-07-23 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Do the following...
 
In the set fields filter action before yours (Add a set fields action
before yours ;) set a DisplayOnly integer field to $TIMESTAMP$ and use
that integer field in your SQL.  The database will not automatically
convert a date string into the Epoch number that the date is stored in
the datbase as.
 
Fred



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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:10 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Limiting SQL select statements by AGE



ARS 7.0.01 P05

DB Oracle 10g

 

I'm looking to make a Set Fields Filter Action to Count the number of
records in an ARS Table where the value of the field is '1' and the
record is more than 1 week old.

 

This SQL works fine (returns a value for $1$ of =392):

 

SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1

 

But it fails when I try to add the criteria for the age of the record
(throws an error: ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the
database : ORA-00904: 07/23/08 14:06:46-604800: invalid identifier):

 

SELECT Count(C18099) FROM T1116 WHERE C18099=1 AND
C3$TIMESTAMP$-604800

 

I've used the $TIMESTAMP$-604800 worked from an Advanced Search on the
User Tool...I'm sure it's just something to do with either my SQL syntax
or the way the Create Date (C3) is stored on the database.  I know
it's out there as number of seconds since 1/1/70, but the error seems to
indicate that the $TIMESTAMP$ is being interpreted as 07/23/08
14:06:46.  Maybe I need to use a FUNCTION for Timestamp that Oracle
understands??

 

Thanks in advance,

George

 

George Payne

Corporate Applications Developer

Electric Reliability Council of Texas

(512) 248-3940

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
  

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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Axton
Simple answer is affordable for the customer does not necessarily
mean profitable for the proprietor.  I'm not saying it can't be
profitable, but there is a lot to account for in developing and
proposing a business model that is so drastically different than what
BMC has provided in the past.  If such a model were developed, the
revenue provided by the new model would have to exceed that of the
current model.  Introduction of a new business model would impact the
existing pricing model, so that has to be taken into account in
determining the overall viability of a different business model.

Support services entail things that BMC can not avoid being a part of:
- product maintenance
- product licensing

With the proposed model you have above, I could probably drop tens of
thousands of dollars of my current annual support costs.  More work,
reduced revenue...

The counter to the above statement is that the product is no longer a
viable option for it's customers and sales plummet.  This will force
an adjustment to the pricing model that makes the product marketable.

You have to consider the existing forces that are already in play.

Axton Grams

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, of course Remedy is called a Help Desk application BUT THAT'S
 WRONG! That's part of my point.  It's NOT just a Help Desk application.
 It's an application development platform that just *happens* to commonly
 run Help Desk apps because that's the niche it fell into.

 My point is, to survive, it needs to break that paradigm.  And the best
 way is to get people writing apps that are not just Help Desk.  Need to
 track monthly sales? Use Remedy. Need a visitor sign-in log? Use Remedy.
 Need a company web page? Use Remedy.  Need an equipment checkout form?
 Use Remedy.  Need to track pending orders? Use Remedy.  Need a
 company-wide list of handy telephone numbers? Use Remedy.  Need to track
 employee training? Use Remedy.

 That's the way the marketing should be, in my opinion, but the problem
 is, the expensive licensing makes all of that impractical.  Why make
 your visitor sign-in log in Remedy and burn up costly user licenses when
 you can make a similar app (certainly not as good) in Access?  Now
 please don't bombard me with messages saying something like, Well, the
 reason you'd use Remedy and not Access is because Remedy is so good
 at... That's not my point.  My point is that people will use other
 tools (Access is just an example) and endure a lesser resulting product
 because the other tools are so much more affordable.  Access doesn't
 have all the awesome capability of Remedy, but it's AFFORDABLE.

 Then people say, Yeah, but if they reduced the cost of the ARS, they
 wouldn't make any money! To that I contend that ARS is such an awesome,
 robust, and easy-to-use solution, BMC would make much more money by
 selling in VOLUME.

 Here's what I envision: Sell ARS at around $500 with NO support.  If you
 buy this version, you have to pay for support on a case-by-case basis
 like Microsoft.  Or use the ARSList.  Or you could buy a support
 contract for X amount of dollars for unlimited support.  Then think--ARS
 could be anywhere and everywhere.  You could buy a copy and take it home
 and use it to stand up a personal web server.  Or smaller development
 companies could buy it, write apps, and then sell the apps with the ARS
 bundled into the price.  Say you write a shipping system.  You could
 charge $1000 for the app you wrote and $500 for the ARS to go with it.
 Total bill: $1500.  One stop shop.  Right now there are a few third
 parties writing ARS-based apps (ESS @ Work) but how frightening is that?
 You pour your heart and soul into writing an app in Remedy and then get
 an interested party who wants to buy it but then have to tell them,
 Yeah, we sell this awesome product, but to use it, you first have to go
 to ANOTHER company and buy THEIR product for $25,000. Man, that's a
 tough sell.

 And the reason why people get thrust into Remedy without training is
 because management doesn't realize what Remedy truly is and what it is
 truly capable of because of the *paradigm*...that is, the Help Desk
 STIGMA.  If the ARS was more affordable, it could be marketed to a much
 wider audience and the paradigm could be broken.

 That's my point.  Please excuse the long rant.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Goralczyk
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:31 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

 **
 Fred,

 I have been using Remedy for over 8 years, and it has always been called
 a Helpdesk application by people outside of the Remedy world.  Granted I
 never describe it as such, and I correct everybody I can, but the fact
 remains, if you are not on the backside of Remedy, you seem to relate it
 to a helpdesk application.  That might be because that is how 

Re: Installing ARWebReportViewer

2008-07-23 Thread William Rentfrow
You will need some type of HTTP server.



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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Installing ARWebReportViewer


** Thanks William.  All I have on the crystal reports machine is tomcat
5.0.27 and it runs crystal server fine.  Will I need to install IIS on
the same machine to use the ARWebReportViewer?
 






Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:54:17 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing ARWebReportViewer
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 

What web server are you using?  As I recall it did not recognize IBM
HTTP server.
 
You can select the other option.



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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Installing ARWebReportViewer


** Hi Folks.  I am trying to enable web reporting via the midtier.  I
have sucessfully set up Crystal Report Server XI on a seperate machine
using tomcat 5.0.27.  I am in the process of installing the
ARWebReportViewer on the crystal reports machine which does not have
midtier and during the install (which is from the midtier exe) I am
prompted with an error that Web Server Not Found.  Does anyone know
what web server is compatible with ARWebReportViewer?  If I proceed on
the only options for web server and JSP engine is Other.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
Yes, of course.  I already have considered existing forces.

Think about it: BMC experiences a drop in revenue from support and a
drop in revenue in licensing initially.  It then rebounds by VOLUME
sales of the ARS as a RAD toolset.

Think about it: MICROSOFT DOES IT! Buy a copy of Visual Studio and it
comes with a license key in the manual.  You can't install the software
without the license key.  Bingo! Licensing problem (mostly) solved.

Ever watch Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? Last night's episode is a
perfect example.  Gordon shows up to a restaurant that does *some*
business but is, by no means, a booming business.  Gordon tells the
owner, You need to completely revamp your menu. The owner resists.
No, he says, I don't want to lose my EXISTING customer base by
changing. Gordon says, Well then you'll never be successful.

The moral of the story? Oftentimes you have to jettison an existing
mildly profitable (but declining) business model and swallow some losses
in order to go on to big time success. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

Simple answer is affordable for the customer does not necessarily
mean profitable for the proprietor.  I'm not saying it can't be
profitable, but there is a lot to account for in developing and
proposing a business model that is so drastically different than what
BMC has provided in the past.  If such a model were developed, the
revenue provided by the new model would have to exceed that of the
current model.  Introduction of a new business model would impact the
existing pricing model, so that has to be taken into account in
determining the overall viability of a different business model.

Support services entail things that BMC can not avoid being a part of:
- product maintenance
- product licensing

With the proposed model you have above, I could probably drop tens of
thousands of dollars of my current annual support costs.  More work,
reduced revenue...

The counter to the above statement is that the product is no longer a
viable option for it's customers and sales plummet.  This will force
an adjustment to the pricing model that makes the product marketable.

You have to consider the existing forces that are already in play.

Axton Grams

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, of course Remedy is called a Help Desk application BUT THAT'S
 WRONG! That's part of my point.  It's NOT just a Help Desk
application.
 It's an application development platform that just *happens* to
commonly
 run Help Desk apps because that's the niche it fell into.

 My point is, to survive, it needs to break that paradigm.  And the
best
 way is to get people writing apps that are not just Help Desk.  Need
to
 track monthly sales? Use Remedy. Need a visitor sign-in log? Use
Remedy.
 Need a company web page? Use Remedy.  Need an equipment checkout form?
 Use Remedy.  Need to track pending orders? Use Remedy.  Need a
 company-wide list of handy telephone numbers? Use Remedy.  Need to
track
 employee training? Use Remedy.

 That's the way the marketing should be, in my opinion, but the problem
 is, the expensive licensing makes all of that impractical.  Why make
 your visitor sign-in log in Remedy and burn up costly user licenses
when
 you can make a similar app (certainly not as good) in Access?  Now
 please don't bombard me with messages saying something like, Well,
the
 reason you'd use Remedy and not Access is because Remedy is so good
 at... That's not my point.  My point is that people will use other
 tools (Access is just an example) and endure a lesser resulting
product
 because the other tools are so much more affordable.  Access doesn't
 have all the awesome capability of Remedy, but it's AFFORDABLE.

 Then people say, Yeah, but if they reduced the cost of the ARS, they
 wouldn't make any money! To that I contend that ARS is such an
awesome,
 robust, and easy-to-use solution, BMC would make much more money by
 selling in VOLUME.

 Here's what I envision: Sell ARS at around $500 with NO support.  If
you
 buy this version, you have to pay for support on a case-by-case basis
 like Microsoft.  Or use the ARSList.  Or you could buy a support
 contract for X amount of dollars for unlimited support.  Then
think--ARS
 could be anywhere and everywhere.  You could buy a copy and take it
home
 and use it to stand up a personal web server.  Or smaller development
 companies could buy it, write apps, and then sell the apps with the
ARS
 bundled into the price.  Say you write a shipping system.  You could
 charge $1000 for the app you wrote and $500 for the ARS to go with it.
 Total bill: $1500.  One stop shop.  Right now there are a few third
 parties writing ARS-based apps (ESS @ Work) but how frightening is
that?
 You pour your heart and soul into 

Re: Full Outer Joins?

2008-07-23 Thread Brian Goralczyk
And, ftr, you need to create a view for Remedy to be able to lay a view form
over it.  If you don't need the view form, there are other options.  Since
you didn't say what the usage of the data is I am not sure we can recommend
any other options that might be more efficient or useful.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Grooms, Frederick W 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** You gave him the select statement for a view

 A view would be something like

 Create or Replace VIEW My_View_Name
 (TABLEA_COL1, TABLEA_COL2, TABLEA_COL3, TABLEA_COL4, TABLEB_COL1,
 TABLEB_COL2, TABLEB_COL3, TABLEB_COL4)
 as
 (
 SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
 TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4
 FROM TABLEA LEFT JOIN TABLEB ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1
 UNION
 SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
 TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4
 FROM TABLEB LEFT JOIN TABLEA ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1
 )
 Fred


  --
  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kemes, Lisa
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:46 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Full Outer Joins?

   I talked to my DB guy about the View on the DB and he is telling me that
 it's not really a view.  Here's what I gave him:


 SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
 TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4

 FROM TABLEA LEFT JOIN TABLEB ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1

 UNION

 SELECT TABLEA.COL1, TABLEA.COL2, TABLEA.COL3, TABLEA.COL4, TABLEB.COL1,
 TABLEB.COL2, TABLEB.COL3, TABLEB.COL4

 FROM TABLEB LEFT JOIN TABLEA ON TABLEA.COL1 = TABLEB.COL1



 He said he is going to look into this further, but I think it's a view
 right?

 Lisa

  --
 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Goralczyk
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:56 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Full Outer Joins?

 ** There is always the option to create a join view in the database and
 throwing a view form on top of that.  It would allow you to perform database
 functions that Remedy just won't do.

 HTH,

 Brian

 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Janie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OOB Joins are Left Outer from Parent to Child forms.  Not Full
 Left/Right Outer….

 Someone else may have additional thoughts on how to simulate a Full Outer
 join within the confines of AR System joins, but as far as I know what you
 are trying to do may have to be rethought for a different approach….

 Janie
  --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kemes, Lisa
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Full Outer Joins?

 Does AR System support Full Outer Joins on a Join Table?

 I need to combine the results of both left and right outer joins. The
 joined table will contain all records from both tables, and fill in NULLs
 for missing matches on either side.

 Our environment:
 AR Server 7.0.1 Patch 3
 MT 7.0.1 Patch 5
 Oracle 10i

 *Lisa Kemes** *
 AR System Developer
 Tyco Electronics
 717-810-2408 tel
 717-810-2124 fax
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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Brian Goralczyk
Norm,

For the record, my point was that, your right, it needs to be promoted as
more than a helpdesk solution.  But I think part of the fault in the current
situation would also fall to the sales people.  They make more money by
convincing management that they NEED to buy ITSM.  So maybe part of the
issue is addressing the sale person's commission system.

But I do agree with you, ARS can do so much more than almost anybody gives
it credit for.  I think possibly that one of the issues is trying to explain
what ARS is to a non-technical person.  They don't understand RAD.  They
don't understand a lot of the versatility in the application.  And
unfortunately, a lot of the people in this world that make buying decisions
are not technologically knowledgeable.

I agree with everything your saying, although I also agree with the others.
I don't think such an extreme change is going to happen anytime soon.
Although I wish as a developer I could pick up a development copy of ARS for
500 or a 1000 bucks.  I think that they would do wonders if they offered the
server for free (with limited records) and charged you for licenses (like
they used to).  Now you can't get your hands on it unless you have access to
a support contract, and even then there is so much that would be nice to
have access to that you can't without making your wallet go on a sever diet.

I have always wished them to find a way to offer the server to small sized
companies.  But the more time passes, especially with ITSM, they seem to be
hedging out the middle sized companies too these days.

So for all that, I am in agreement with you.

Brian

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Rick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** Well, Norm, I see your point, but good luck convincing BMC that their
 revenue model isn't working.  I'm not saying that it is or it isn't, but
 they seem to think it is, and the stock seems to be at least holding its
 own, so I don't see that model changing until they think it needs changing.

 Rick

  On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, of course.  I already have considered existing forces.

 Think about it: BMC experiences a drop in revenue from support and a
 drop in revenue in licensing initially.  It then rebounds by VOLUME
 sales of the ARS as a RAD toolset.

 Think about it: MICROSOFT DOES IT! Buy a copy of Visual Studio and it
 comes with a license key in the manual.  You can't install the software
 without the license key.  Bingo! Licensing problem (mostly) solved.

 Ever watch Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? Last night's episode is a
 perfect example.  Gordon shows up to a restaurant that does *some*
 business but is, by no means, a booming business.  Gordon tells the
 owner, You need to completely revamp your menu. The owner resists.
 No, he says, I don't want to lose my EXISTING customer base by
 changing. Gordon says, Well then you'll never be successful.

 The moral of the story? Oftentimes you have to jettison an existing
 mildly profitable (but declining) business model and swallow some losses
 in order to go on to big time success.

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The incident e-mail notification has a miss-formed url, how can I correct?

2008-07-23 Thread Howard Richter
Good afternoon,



I am having a brain freeze and need a little guidance. I know we have
answered this before, but as I age I forget things.



We are getting the following url in the notification e-mails 
http:\\itsm-dev-web:8080\arsys\home/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=
itsm-dev-app.inel.goveid=NTS5182



However for it to work it should read
http:\\itsm-dev-web:8080\arsys\home/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=itsm-dev-appeid=NTS5182
(the inel.gov should not be part of the server name)



How can I fix this?



As always thanks,


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Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??

2008-07-23 Thread LJ Longwing
Each developer creates a PL named in whatever convention you choose to
use...we use MMDD-DevName-PLName, and each developer simply keeps track
of the workflow modified and adds it to that PL when they are done, or as
they are modifying if that's easier for them.  Then when it comes time to
export, we just gather the PL's together and export their contents.

  _  

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Export Automation -- Possible ??


** 
Seems interesting. Seems like distributing pressure to hunt for all
workflows. Can you please explain how this Packing List is done by
individual Developer ??

Thanks and Regards,
Ganga Prasad Pattnaik,
-



On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:58 PM, LJ Longwing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


** 
The methodology that we have adopted at my current job works well.  Each
developer that needs to have stuff moved from Dev to Test creates a packing
list and puts all of their stuff into that PL.  When it comes time to move
from Dev to Test you simply add the contents of each PL to the export, and
that is your def file...no hunting for that elusive AL.

  _  

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:29 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Export Automation -- Possible ??


** 
Hi List

As part of my job role I need to go for frequent Import and Export using my
Administrator tool. Every time I need to export from source server and put
it into Destination Server. The object list always varies. For that I need
to carefully search the object and add it for exporting. This is very
tedious as we have a large number of workflows ...  

Any one have tried to make it automated  ??  I am not finding any startup
point to go with.. Any help would be really greatful..

ARS 7.0
Oracle 10G
NO ITSM


Thanks and Regards,
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( Remedy Skilled Professional )
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Re: The incident e-mail notification has a miss-formed url, how can I correct?

2008-07-23 Thread john rosquist
I am interested in finding this out too.
What does the web path in the server config say? Is this on windows? If so, it 
is my understanding that it will use the fully qualified domain name of the 
host here irrespective of your wishes. The only work around is to remove the 
FQDN from the host.  Otherwise, just add it to the mid-tier and bounce it.

John Rosquist


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From: Howard Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:25:09 PM
Subject: The incident e-mail notification has a miss-formed url, how can I 
correct?

** 
Good afternoon,
 
I am having a brain freeze and need a little guidance. I know we have answered 
this before, but as I age I forget things.
 
We are getting the following url in the notification e-mails 
http:\\itsm-dev-web:8080\arsys\home/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=itsm-dev-app.inel.goveid=NTS5182
 
However for it to work it should read 
http:\\itsm-dev-web:8080\arsys\home/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=itsm-dev-appeid=NTS5182
 (the inel.gov should not be part of the server name)
 
How can I fix this?
 
As always thanks,

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Re: Buy vs. Build

2008-07-23 Thread Axton
That initially means laying off and then eventually hiring people.
This has some implications in terms of active development in the
product lines and other things.  Also, Microsoft has deep pockets.
http://www.gengaming.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=608mode=threaded

Can BMC weather the storm?  Is bankruptcy an option?

Seems like Microsoft got into some hot water over its licensing
practices.  Is this a healthy image or a good place to be in?
http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/slicense.html

Seems like there were problems as well:
http://news.cnet.com/Vista-views-Microsofts-license-changes/2009-1016_3-6126885.html

Not advocating anything, just running the cards of the unspoken sides.
 Much of everything is in a trap, to varying degrees, just trying to
drop all premonitions and have an open view of all sides.

Axton Grams

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, of course.  I already have considered existing forces.

 Think about it: BMC experiences a drop in revenue from support and a
 drop in revenue in licensing initially.  It then rebounds by VOLUME
 sales of the ARS as a RAD toolset.

 Think about it: MICROSOFT DOES IT! Buy a copy of Visual Studio and it
 comes with a license key in the manual.  You can't install the software
 without the license key.  Bingo! Licensing problem (mostly) solved.

 Ever watch Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares? Last night's episode is a
 perfect example.  Gordon shows up to a restaurant that does *some*
 business but is, by no means, a booming business.  Gordon tells the
 owner, You need to completely revamp your menu. The owner resists.
 No, he says, I don't want to lose my EXISTING customer base by
 changing. Gordon says, Well then you'll never be successful.

 The moral of the story? Oftentimes you have to jettison an existing
 mildly profitable (but declining) business model and swallow some losses
 in order to go on to big time success.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:32 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Buy vs. Build

 Simple answer is affordable for the customer does not necessarily
 mean profitable for the proprietor.  I'm not saying it can't be
 profitable, but there is a lot to account for in developing and
 proposing a business model that is so drastically different than what
 BMC has provided in the past.  If such a model were developed, the
 revenue provided by the new model would have to exceed that of the
 current model.  Introduction of a new business model would impact the
 existing pricing model, so that has to be taken into account in
 determining the overall viability of a different business model.

 Support services entail things that BMC can not avoid being a part of:
 - product maintenance
 - product licensing

 With the proposed model you have above, I could probably drop tens of
 thousands of dollars of my current annual support costs.  More work,
 reduced revenue...

 The counter to the above statement is that the product is no longer a
 viable option for it's customers and sales plummet.  This will force
 an adjustment to the pricing model that makes the product marketable.

 You have to consider the existing forces that are already in play.

 Axton Grams

 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, of course Remedy is called a Help Desk application BUT THAT'S
 WRONG! That's part of my point.  It's NOT just a Help Desk
 application.
 It's an application development platform that just *happens* to
 commonly
 run Help Desk apps because that's the niche it fell into.

 My point is, to survive, it needs to break that paradigm.  And the
 best
 way is to get people writing apps that are not just Help Desk.  Need
 to
 track monthly sales? Use Remedy. Need a visitor sign-in log? Use
 Remedy.
 Need a company web page? Use Remedy.  Need an equipment checkout form?
 Use Remedy.  Need to track pending orders? Use Remedy.  Need a
 company-wide list of handy telephone numbers? Use Remedy.  Need to
 track
 employee training? Use Remedy.

 That's the way the marketing should be, in my opinion, but the problem
 is, the expensive licensing makes all of that impractical.  Why make
 your visitor sign-in log in Remedy and burn up costly user licenses
 when
 you can make a similar app (certainly not as good) in Access?  Now
 please don't bombard me with messages saying something like, Well,
 the
 reason you'd use Remedy and not Access is because Remedy is so good
 at... That's not my point.  My point is that people will use other
 tools (Access is just an example) and endure a lesser resulting
 product
 because the other tools are so much more affordable.  Access doesn't
 have all the awesome capability of Remedy, but it's AFFORDABLE.

 Then people say, Yeah, but if they reduced the cost of the ARS, they
 wouldn't make 

Re: Installing ARWebReportViewer

2008-07-23 Thread Steven Iocco

ok.  I will try with IIS.  Is the http server only needed to configure the 
ARWebReportViewer on the crystal machine?.
Thanks
steve



Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:36:26 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Installing 
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You will need some type of HTTP server.


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Thanks William.  All I have on the crystal reports machine is tomcat 5.0.27 and 
it runs crystal server fine.  Will I need to install IIS on the same machine to 
use the ARWebReportViewer? 

Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:54:17 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Installing 
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What web server are you using?  As I recall it did not recognize IBM HTTP 
server.
 
You can select the other option.


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Hi Folks.  I am trying to enable web reporting via the midtier.  I have 
sucessfully set up Crystal Report Server XI on a seperate machine using tomcat 
5.0.27.  I am in the process of installing the ARWebReportViewer on the crystal 
reports machine which does not have midtier and during the install (which is 
from the midtier exe) I am prompted with an error that Web Server Not Found.  
Does anyone know what web server is compatible with ARWebReportViewer?  If I 
proceed on the only options for web server and JSP engine is Other.Any help 
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Re: Crystal Reports Server XI and Midtier version 7.1

2008-07-23 Thread ITSM Support
Hi Steven,

 

Take existing Tomcat and follow the steps which is given in PDF. I have done
before. There is no extra thing.

 

Hope this helps... 

 

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Hi folks.  I am tasked with installing Crystal Reports Server XI on a
windows 2003 env't so that users on Midtier 7.1 can run reports via the web.
The Midtier is using Apache 5.5.26 and I plan on installing this on the
Crystal reports server (seperate machine) prior to the install of crystal.
I have read the documentation and it seems that after installing Crystal if
I want it to work with an existing tomcat install there are a few extra
steps, which is fine.  My questions really are whether there is anything out
of the ordinary that I need to be aware of?  I am looking for some lessons
learned on the topic.  
I have been reviewing the install document for crystal report server and a
document from BMC on configuring the midtier to run reports on the web.
Thanks
Steve

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