Re: Service action Peculiarity

2012-08-17 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi,

It’s not a bug. We have seen a case where because of change in the input
length of a field it was providing a wrong value.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Eric Roys
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:51 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Service action Peculiarity

Has anyone come across a peculiarity with the filter Service action where-in
what is mapped is not what is received on the other end?
ARS7.6.4 sp2

The particulars... 

Filter Service Input Mapping: 
inChar000 (536870913) = $host$  //source field id (536870913)
inChar001 (536870914) = People //source field id (hardcoded)
inChar002 (536870915) = Used by //source field id (hardcoded)
inChar003 (536870916) = $corpid$  //source field id (536870915)

Source values at time of call say: 
inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
inChar001 (536870914) = People
inChar002 (536870915) = Used by
inChar003 (536870916) = 4712258 

Receiving says (and passes wrong value - see inChar003)... 
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1 -- service action input
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar001 (536870914) = People
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar002 (536870915) = Used by
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar003 (536870916) = Used by 

Change Service Input mapping to use new field/id as: 
inChar000 (536870913) = $host$  //source field id (536870913)
inChar001 (536870914) = People //source field id (hardcoded)
inChar002 (536870915) = Used by //source field id (hardcoded)
inChar003 (536870916) = $corpid1$  //source field id (536870929) = new
field/id not in field id set on destination form

Use same Source Values as previously noted.

Receiving now says (and works properly)... 
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1 -- service action input
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar001 (536870914) = People
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar002 (536870915) = Used by
FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar003 (536870916) = 4712258


Thoughts? Bug? Enhancement? As designed?

Thanks, 

Eric Roys
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Re: Service action Peculiarity

2012-08-17 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

It still seems a bug to me.

If a field does not exist, or the user does not have permissions to it,
the value should always be NULL.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Hi,

 It’s not a bug. We have seen a case where because of change in the input
 length of a field it was providing a wrong value.

 HTH
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 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Eric Roys
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:51 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Service action Peculiarity

 Has anyone come across a peculiarity with the filter Service action
 where-in
 what is mapped is not what is received on the other end?
 ARS7.6.4 sp2

 The particulars...

 Filter Service Input Mapping:
 inChar000 (536870913) = $host$  //source field id (536870913)
 inChar001 (536870914) = People //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar002 (536870915) = Used by //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar003 (536870916) = $corpid$  //source field id (536870915)

 Source values at time of call say:
 inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
 inChar001 (536870914) = People
 inChar002 (536870915) = Used by
 inChar003 (536870916) = 4712258

 Receiving says (and passes wrong value - see inChar003)...
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1 -- service action input
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar001 (536870914) = People
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar002 (536870915) = Used
 by
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar003 (536870916) = Used
 by

 Change Service Input mapping to use new field/id as:
 inChar000 (536870913) = $host$  //source field id (536870913)
 inChar001 (536870914) = People //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar002 (536870915) = Used by //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar003 (536870916) = $corpid1$  //source field id (536870929) = new
 field/id not in field id set on destination form

 Use same Source Values as previously noted.

 Receiving now says (and works properly)...
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1 -- service action input
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar001 (536870914) = People
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar002 (536870915) = Used
 by
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar003 (536870916) =
 4712258


 Thoughts? Bug? Enhancement? As designed?

 Thanks,

 Eric Roys
 Seamless Technologies


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Re: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

2012-08-17 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

I wonder why BMC chose a proprietary compression mechanism. I don't see
the benefit, really. Except possibly if BMC programmers has developed a
more efficient mechanism than exists elsewhere.

Why not publish the code for it?

My point of view is to use the API anyway.

To quote a recent post from Doug Mueller: As someone has already
mentioned, other than for your amusement and amazement, it is bad practice
to access the T tables directly...

I would think that this would include the B-tables as well ;-)

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Attachments are stored in a proprietary compression format so you cannot
 retrieve them without using the API to decompress them.

 Since you are on SQL you could possibly use the ARS ODBC to pull the
 attachment (but I have not tried that)

 Fred

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 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Sharp
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:06 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

 **
 Hi All -
  
 Our SQL DBA is looking for best practice advice on how to retrieve
 attachments in INC and CRQ records/work info entries.  On page 37 of the
 DB ref guide, it tells what table(s) to find the attachment images, which
 we have found. 
  
 Goal:  To retrieve documentation files that are part of work info entries,
 and are in the ARS attachment data tables.  
  
 Environment:  ARS 7.02 and SQL 2K8
  
 Has anyone done this in the past ?  Do you have an example of the SQL
 statement ?  The field element in the B/C tables indicates the attachments
 are imaged types.
  
 Thanks in advance very much !
  
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Re: Object access in developr studio

2012-08-17 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

I ditto that. ARInside would be my choice.

Here is sample output from a complete ITSM764 system:
http://rrr.se/itsmdoc/

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

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 You can install arinside which generates html documentation. You can put
 that under IIS or some other webserver or shared folder and give access to
 other analysts.
 This is more user friendly and faster. This way any one can see remedy
 objects but cannot make changes.

 On Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:09:26 PM UTC-7, Kiran wrote:

 **

 Hi

 Do we have any configuration in remedy 7604 to restrict a person to just
 view the objects in dev studio?

 He should not be able to edit/delete any objects

 Is it available ootb? Plz send ur suggestions


 Regards
 Kiran

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Building A Custom Application (Just Checking)

2012-08-17 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

If you want to make use of the new functionality, which is not really that
much since 6.3, I would scrap the screen-shots. They will only limit your
creativity.

Analyse the processes instead, with special note of things that already
works very good or very bad. Improve the processes, and build your system
based on that instead.

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 Thank you..!!

 The reason why I posted the question is because we have an application in
 Remedy 6.3 that is about 10+ years old and we wanted to take advantage of
 the new functionality and design capabilities of 7.6 but, all we are
 getting is the old system with different colors and some fields moved
 around. VERY frustrating when you are teaching someone how to build an
 application properly.. Thanks again..

 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Stroud, Natalie K
 nkst...@sandia.govwrote:

 **

 Probably not without some explanation around how the screenshots needed
 to
 relate to one another, and maybe not even then.  If there are
 screenshots
 whose relationships to the others aren’t clear, well, you know what they
 say:  “An imprecisely defined requirement has an infinite number of
 solutions.  Unfortunately, only about a maximum of 3 will actually
 satisfy
 the end user.”

 ** **

 Cheers,

 ** **

 Natalie Stroud

 SAIC for Sandia National Laboratories

 ARS/ITSM Tester

 nkst...@sandia.gov

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 *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Building A Custom Application (Just Checking)

 ** **

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 I just want to know your opinion on something. If you were handed a
 bunch
 of screenshots, could you build an application..?? Thank you..!!

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Re: CSS Styling question

2012-08-17 Thread Nau, Michael
Pete,

 

the easiest way to see which styles are applied (or not) to certain
elements would be the dev tools in Firefox. Here you can just
right-click an element, then press 'Q' in the context menu. You will see
the rules that apply and the file and line number where it originates.
You can even change the rules on the fly to see the effects of the
modifications you're planning.

 

Hth

Michael

 

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: CSS Styling question

 

** 

All
This topic is a little OT but the CSS forums are not as responsive as
the good folks here in the arslist. There is one KB that addresses the
issue but the style sheet syntax did not seem very clear to me; probably
due to lack of understanding of CSS.

I need to apply styling to a field (trim text) that is inside a div. The
view source is below.

div id=WIN_0_536870988 arid=536870988 artype=Trim arsubtype=3
ardbn=txt_MyRequests arcolor=white class=h1 arfid536870988
ardbntxt_MyRequests trimdiv style=z-index:1103#59;top:17#59;
left:534#59; width:210#59; height:40#59;background-color:white#59;

 

Specifically, I want to change the color to Blue and justify the text
Left. I know I can do this particular style with the field attributes
but this is just a test run before trying more complex CSS solutions.
The style is not being applied and I have cleared the browser cache and
flushed the MT cache.

 

This is what my style sheet looks like and added div#WIN_0_536870988 to
the Custom CSS Style field attribute.

 

div#WIN_0_536870988

{

color:blue;

text-align:left;

font-weight:bold;

}

 

All thoughts gratefully accepted!
Many thanks 
Pete

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Re: Change Management 7.0.3- CR stuck with Complete status.

2012-08-17 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi,

 

Following may be the possibility due to which the Change Request is getting
stuck in Complete Status:

1)  Configuration for your company or Global in Approval Process
Configuration Form  such that below and which is enabled

 


Begin  

Approved

Rejected

No Approvers


-

-

-

Pending



2)  This rule must be getting triggered which keeps the Change Request
stuck even after it's approved.

 

3)  Now answer to your second question, you need to enable the Approval
log from Approval Administration-Server Settings-Basic tab and find out
which rules are being triggered and disable the configuration which is
hampering your process flow.

4)  One more important thing is that in the Approval Process
Configuration Form in the Approval Process tab if System Approval Flag is
set to Yes then the Approval Mapping for that particular phase is
bypassed. So It may be the case that the  System Approval Flag is set to
Yes  for 'Close Down Approval' phase and the Approval Mapping for that
phase is not getting executed

5)  Or else it could also be related to any pending task which is
associated to the Change Request but for that we need more information as it
below scenario does not mention anything about task so we would not get into
it rather.

 

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Subject: Change Management 7.0.3- CR stuck with Complete status.

 

** 

 

 

 

Dear Listers;

Wondering if any of you have been seen something similar to the next
situation:

I've configured the approval process configuration to follow the next rules:

Begin Approved RejectedNo Approvers
Completed   Closed   Cancelled  Cancelled

However, some Change requests, get stuck on the Complete status, asking for
approval, and I'm unable to detect why if those tickets no longer require
for approvals (since signatures have been provided and approved) still stuck
on the Complete status.

Here are both questions:

What can cause this?
How can I remove the lock for these records?

Environment

ARS 7.1
Change Management 7.0.3

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Re: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

2012-08-17 Thread D Dussie
To retrieve multiple attachments for incidents and change what we have been is 
written a scripts are runmacro.

My env is Unix
1. Create a macro that exports the  attachment when pass the single 
change/incident variable.
2. Append the macro above end' to-file: Location of Export file to Report.xml
3. Export to *.rep, *.xml, or *.arx ..  file format should export the 
attachments, not sure which at the moment we use .xml/.rep
4. Run macro runmacro path -x server -a port -d macro directory -e Name of 
Macro -U user -P password
5. Note Name of Macro is not the filename, but the first line of the content of 
file bc WUT will give it a funky name.. 
6. This will export the attachments specific to change/incidents.
7. We added a wrapper to the process, to allow passing multiple 
incidents/change, and with the creation of each attachment export, grab to 
files, create a folder of that change record and place the respective 
attachments in them.
8. Otherwise, all the attachments will be in one location and you won't know 
which belongs to change/incidents request.
9. we used sharepoint to upload each change/incident folder, so user/auditor 
have access to attachments, instead of going to Remedy and look one at a time. 
10. we are exploring Documentum, for better storage since attachments with 
characters in name is not sharepoint friendly.


Kinda messy but it works.

Having spoken to BMC support: I was told runmacro will not go away when the 
client is decommissioned.

However, we are exploring if this can be accomplished with webservices.

Hope this helps.

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ars 7.6.04 sp2 - need suggestions ARERR - 93

2012-08-17 Thread patrick zandi
Hello folks:

Cannot figure out what is wrong with this application/ or OS.  this server
is running: without any errors, except one..
When it gets a load, it crashes the application.. and there are 50 or more
Fin_wait_2 in netstat and a couple hundred close_wait status in the
networking..
-- server runs fine at idle, then you deselect a filter, and it goes to a
load, and you get the below, and 1.5 hours later.. it crashes and restarts
the application..
If you blow in a big def file,, same thing..   anyone see this type of
thing before??
I have rebuilt the oracle instance 3 times, I have tried 7.6.04 SP2 / and
SP3.. same cases with both.
I have modified till blue in the face (the plugins -- which have helped
some)..
hope you got an idea.. how do I prove it is the OS? or the server build..
---
symptoms ARERROR::

Wed Aug 15 21:52:02 2012  SLMCS : Timeout during data retrieval due to busy
server -- retry the operation (SERVERNAME)  ARERR - 93

Wed Aug 15 21:52:02 2012  SLMCS : A user name must be supplied in the
control record ARERR - 149

Wed Aug 15 21:54:51 2012  Dispatch : Timeout during data retrieval due to
busy server -- retry the operation (SERVERNAME)  ARERR - 93

Wed Aug 15 21:55:02 2012  SLMCS : Timeout during data retrieval due to busy
server -- retry the operation (SERVERNAME)  ARERR - 93

Wed Aug 15 21:55:02 2012  SLMCS : A user name must be supplied in the
control record ARERR - 149

Wed Aug 15 21:56:45 2012: AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE  20)

Signal: 15Wed Aug 15 21:56:45 2012  BRIE : AR System Application server
terminated when a signal/exception was received by the server (ARAPPNOTE
4500)

Wed Aug 15 21:56:45 2012 15

Wed Aug 15 21:56:46 2012  Dispatch : AR System Application server
terminated when a signal/exception was received by the server (ARAPPNOTE
4500)

Wed Aug 15 21:56:46 2012 15

Wed Aug 15 21:56:46 2012  AssignEng : AR System Application server
terminated when a signal/exception was received by the server (ARAPPNOTE
4500)

Wed Aug 15 21:56:46 2012 15

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Re: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

2012-08-17 Thread Ben Chernys
Meta-Update - running entirely through the API - has a rich facility for 
retrieving attachments to the file system.  Attachments can be named anything 
at all in an automated way and can also be processed if needed.   See 
www.softwaretoolhouse.com for more info.

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Sent: August-17-12 02:53
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

Hi,

I wonder why BMC chose a proprietary compression mechanism. I don't see the 
benefit, really. Except possibly if BMC programmers has developed a more 
efficient mechanism than exists elsewhere.

Why not publish the code for it?

My point of view is to use the API anyway.

To quote a recent post from Doug Mueller: As someone has already mentioned, 
other than for your amusement and amazement, it is bad practice to access the 
T tables directly...

I would think that this would include the B-tables as well ;-)

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Attachments are stored in a proprietary compression format so you
 cannot retrieve them without using the API to decompress them.

 Since you are on SQL you could possibly use the ARS ODBC to pull the
 attachment (but I have not tried that)

 Fred

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Sharp
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:06 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

 **
 Hi All -

 Our SQL DBA is looking for best practice advice on how to retrieve
 attachments in INC and CRQ records/work info entries.  On page 37 of
 the DB ref guide, it tells what table(s) to find the attachment
 images, which we have found.Goal:  To retrieve documentation files
 that are part of work info entries, and are in the ARS attachment data
 tables. Environment:  ARS 7.02 and SQL 2K8   Has anyone done this
 in the past ?  Do you have an example of the SQL statement ?  The
 field element in the B/C tables indicates the attachments are imaged
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Re: Change Management 7.0.3- CR stuck with Complete status.

2012-08-17 Thread Hyunkel v2.0
Thanks Ruksana;

I've checked everything you are suggesting and here are the results:

1 )  2 )There's no rule with that information; in fact all rules are directed 
to a further status for the change request.
3 ) I've reviewed the approval logs, and only I'm looking for random errors in 
regards that following approver is not found, but I've ignored this since not 
happens the same for every change, i.e. for one CR fails and for another one 
rule executes correctly; however both CR have the same information, but being 
followed different. I'll explain this on 5)
4) The Close Down Approval phase has cleared the System Approval Flag, so also 
we can discard this.
5 ) Here is the real deal; If I promote the CR until the Scheduled phase (the 
one when tasks are Active), and at that point I close every task of the CR, 
the record gets stuck and the approvers for Close Down phase are not attached. 
On the other hand If I promote the change until the Implementation In 
progress status and there I close all tasks, the record is moved correctly to 
Complete and with the appropiate signatures attached, so what I'm figuring out 
the reason is the filter being triggered to send the parent the signal of 
competition.

Cheers



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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:18:38 +0530
From: itsm.supp...@vyomlabs.com
Subject: Re: Change Management 7.0.3- CR stuck with Complete status.
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

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Hi,

 

Following
may be the possibility due to which the Change Request is getting stuck in
Complete Status:

1) 
Configuration for your company or Global in “Approval
Process Configuration Form”  such that below and which is enabled

 


 
  
  Begin  
  
  
  Approved
  
  
  Rejected
  
  
  No Approvers
  
 
 
  
  -
  
  
  -
  
  
  -
  
  
  Pending
  
 


   


2) 
This rule must be getting triggered which keeps the
Change Request stuck even after it’s approved.

 

3) 
Now answer to your second question, you need to enable
the Approval log from “Approval Administration-Server Settings-Basic
tab” and find out which rules are being triggered and disable the
configuration which is hampering your process flow.

4) 
One more important thing is that in the “Approval
Process Configuration Form” in the Approval Process tab if System Approval Flag
is set to “Yes” then the Approval Mapping for that particular phase is
bypassed. So It may be the case that the  System Approval Flag is set to
“Yes”  for ‘Close Down Approval’ phase and the Approval Mapping for that
phase is not getting executed

5) 
Or else it could also be related to any pending task
which is associated to the Change Request but for that we need more information
as it below scenario does not mention anything about task so we would not get
into it rather.

 

HTH

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v2.0

Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:03 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: Change Management 7.0.3- CR stuck with Complete status.



 

** 



 



 



 





Dear
Listers;



Wondering if any of you have been seen something similar to the next situation:



I've configured the approval process configuration to follow the next rules:



Begin
Approved
RejectedNo
Approvers

Completed  
Closed  
Cancelled  Cancelled



However, some Change requests, get stuck on the Complete status, asking for
approval, and I'm unable to detect why if those tickets no longer require for
approvals (since signatures have been provided and approved) still stuck on the
Complete status.



Here are both questions:



What can cause this?

How can I remove the lock for these records?



Environment



ARS 7.1

Change Management 7.0.3



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6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Emma Petrie-Smith
Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with 
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would 
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow remote 
work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect opportunity 
for someone with another project going on to make some extra money, and get 
exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN. 
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We are 
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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Alan Truelove
Yes v interested




From: Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote

Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with 
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would 
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow remote 
work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect opportunity 
for someone with another project going on to make some extra money, and get 
exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN. 
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We are 
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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Petrie-Smith, Emma
Hi Alan,

It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. ☺

Emma


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Yes v interested


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epetr...@teksystems.commailto:epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote

Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with 
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would 
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow remote 
work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect opportunity 
for someone with another project going on to make some extra money, and get 
exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN. 
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We are 
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ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread Goodall, Andrew C
I've been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.

I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter
Max-Log-History

 

I don't know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I
wish BMC would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on
the Server Information Tab.

e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  

 

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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Aye aye aye...

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It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J



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Yes v interested



*From:* Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
*Subject:* 6-8 project - Remote


Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract
with our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client
would need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would
allow remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the
perfect opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some
extra money, and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable
company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a
VPN. This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We
are able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to
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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Goodall, Andrew C
Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S

 

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

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Aye aye aye...

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Hi Alan,

 

It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J

 

Emma

 





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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 

** 

Yes v interested

 

From: Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote


Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract 
with our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client 
would need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow 
remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect 
opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some extra money, 
and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a 
VPN. This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. 
We are able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to 
start the interview process next week—this process will move quickly.

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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas?

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*From:* Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
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*Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
*Subject:* 6-8 project - Remote


Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract
with our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client
would need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would
allow remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the
perfect opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some
extra money, and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable
company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a
VPN. This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We
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2012-08-17 Thread Petrie-Smith, Emma
Petrie-Smith, Emma would like to recall the message, 6-8 project - Remote.

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Re: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?

2012-08-17 Thread John Sundberg
I claim - even if they did find a more efficient algorithm - it would still be 
a bad idea to use their own strategy.


-John



On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:53 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

Hi,

I wonder why BMC chose a proprietary compression mechanism. I don't see
the benefit, really. Except possibly if BMC programmers has developed a
more efficient mechanism than exists elsewhere.

Why not publish the code for it?

My point of view is to use the API anyway.

To quote a recent post from Doug Mueller: As someone has already
mentioned, other than for your amusement and amazement, it is bad practice
to access the T tables directly...

I would think that this would include the B-tables as well ;-)

   Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Attachments are stored in a proprietary compression format so you cannot
 retrieve them without using the API to decompress them.
 
 Since you are on SQL you could possibly use the ARS ODBC to pull the
 attachment (but I have not tried that)
 
 Fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Sharp
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:06 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Retrieving Attachments from ARS DBs ?
 
 **
 Hi All -
  
 Our SQL DBA is looking for best practice advice on how to retrieve
 attachments in INC and CRQ records/work info entries.  On page 37 of the
 DB ref guide, it tells what table(s) to find the attachment images, which
 we have found. 
  
 Goal:  To retrieve documentation files that are part of work info entries,
 and are in the ARS attachment data tables.  
  
 Environment:  ARS 7.02 and SQL 2K8
  
 Has anyone done this in the past ?  Do you have an example of the SQL
 statement ?  The field element in the B/C tables indicates the attachments
 are imaged types.
  
 Thanks in advance very much !
  
 Rick
  
 
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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Petrie-Smith, Emma
Hi Tauf,

It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover funding 
allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s the best 
our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline.

And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I meant to 
respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional resource, not 
a replacement.

Thanks,
Emma


Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074 ● T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435

[cid:image001.gif@01CD7C62.99AC5660]http://www.teksystems.com/



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C 
ago...@jcp.commailto:ago...@jcp.com wrote:
**
Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S


Regards,

Andrew C. Goodall
Software Engineer
Development Services
ago...@jcpenney.commailto:ago...@jcpenney.com
jcpenney
6501 Legacy Drive
Plano, TX 75024
jcp.comhttp://jcp.com

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[mailto:arslist@arslist.orgmailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tauf 
Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
To: arslist@arslist.orgmailto:arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
Aye aye aye...

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
epetr...@teksystems.commailto:epetr...@teksystems.com wrote:
**
Hi Alan,

It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. ☺

Emma


Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074 ● T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435

image001.gifhttp://www.teksystems.com/



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Alan 
Truelove
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
Yes v interested

From: Emma Petrie-Smith 
epetr...@teksystems.commailto:epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote

Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with 
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would 
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow remote 
work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect opportunity 
for someone with another project going on to make some extra money, and get 
exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN. 
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We are 
able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to start the 
interview process next week—this process will move quickly.

Please respond if you are interested. All qualified candidates will be followed 
up with immediately.

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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
done by this date.
Thanks for the clarification!

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
epetr...@teksystems.com wrote:

 **

 Hi Tauf,

 ** **

 It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
 funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but
 it’s the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their
 deadline. 

 ** **

 And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I
 meant to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional
 resource, not a replacement.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 Emma

 ** **
 --

 *Emma Petrie-Smith **RECRUITER*
 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
 O* *(800) 318-2074 *●* T (913) 664-0105
 F (913) 338-2435 


 [image: http://www.teksystems.com] http://www.teksystems.com/

 ** **
 --

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 ** **

 ** 

 50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas?

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:*
 ***

 ** 

 Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S

  

  

 Regards,

  

 *Andrew C. Goodall*

 Software Engineer

 Development Services

 ago...@jcpenney.com

 *jcpenney*

 6501 Legacy Drive

 Plano, TX 75024

 jcp.com

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
 *To:* arslist@arslist.org
 *Subject:* Re: 6-8 project - Remote

  

 ** 

 Aye aye aye...

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
 epetr...@teksystems.com wrote:

 ** 

 Hi Alan,

  

 It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J

  

 Emma

  
 --

 *Emma Petrie-Smith **RECRUITER*
 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
 O* *(800) 318-2074 *●* T (913) 664-0105
 F (913) 338-2435 


 image001.gif http://www.teksystems.com/

  
 --

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Alan Truelove
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: 6-8 project - Remote

  

 ** 

 Yes v interested

  

 *From:* Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
 *Subject:* 6-8 project - Remote


 Good morning,

 We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract
 with our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client
 would need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would
 allow remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the
 perfect opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some
 extra money, and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable
 company.

 Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a
 VPN. This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing
 application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom
 application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

 Skills needed:
 - At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
 - Minimum of 7 years total development experience
 - Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
 - Strong communication, written and verbal a must
 - Ability to work within a team environment

 Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We
 are able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to
 start the interview process next week—this process will move quickly.

 Please respond if you are interested. All qualified candidates will be
 followed up with immediately.


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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
I don't remember who on the list I stole this from, but I use it ALL the time

Good, Fast, Cheap.  Pick Two.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment: 
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this done 
by this date. 
Thanks for the clarification!


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma epetr...@teksystems.com 
wrote:


** 

Hi Tauf,

 

It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover 
funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s 
the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline. 

 

And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I 
meant to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional 
resource, not a replacement.

 

Thanks,

Emma

 





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074 tel:%28800%29%20318-2074  ● T (913) 664-0105 
tel:%28913%29%20664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 tel:%28913%29%20338-2435  


http://www.teksystems.com http://www.teksystems.com/ 

 





 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



 

** 

50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas?

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com 
wrote:

** 

Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S

 

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 

** 

Aye aye aye...

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
epetr...@teksystems.com wrote:

** 

Hi Alan,

 

It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J

 

Emma

 





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074 tel:%28800%29%20318-2074  ● T (913) 
664-0105 tel:%28913%29%20664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 tel:%28913%29%20338-2435  


image001.gif http://www.teksystems.com/ 

 





 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Alan Truelove
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 

** 

Yes v interested

 

From: Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote


Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 
6-8 week contract with our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro 
area.)  Our client would need to have someone on site for a brief initial 
period, but would allow remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. 
This is the perfect opportunity for someone with another project going on 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country
Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com wrote:

 ** **
 TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

 Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...
 This customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects
 is over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one
 will be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being
 competitive.  The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there
 are many more 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.

 R

  --
 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Petrie-Smith, Emma
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 **

 I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
 funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J 

 ** **

 Thanks for reaching out.

 ** **

 Emma

 ** **
  --

 *Emma Petrie-Smith **RECRUITER*
 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
 O* *(800) 318-2074 *●* T (913) 664-0105
 F (913) 338-2435 


 [image: http://www.teksystems.com] http://www.teksystems.com/

 ** **
  --

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 ** **

 ** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting
 comment: It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY
 need this done by this date.
 Thanks for the clarification!

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
 epetr...@teksystems.com wrote:

 ** 

 Hi Tauf,

  

 It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
 funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but
 it’s the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their
 deadline. 

  

 And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I
 meant to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional
 resource, not a replacement.

  

 Thanks,

 Emma

  
  --

 *Emma Petrie-Smith **RECRUITER*
 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
 O* *(800) 318-2074 *●* T (913) 664-0105
 F (913) 338-2435 


  http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/
  --
  http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 *From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM http://www.teksystems.com/*


 *To:* *arslist@ARSLIST.ORG*
 *Subject:* Re: 6-8 project - Remote http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 **  http://www.teksystems.com/

 50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas?

 Sent from my iPhone http://www.teksystems.com/


 On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C *ago...@jcp.com*
 wrote: http://www.teksystems.com/

  **  http://www.teksystems.com/

 Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement 
 :Shttp://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 Regards, http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 *Andrew C. Goodall http://www.teksystems.com/*

 Software Engineer http://www.teksystems.com/

 Development Services http://www.teksystems.com/

 *ago...@jcpenney.com* http://www.teksystems.com/

 *jcpenney http://www.teksystems.com/*

 6501 Legacy Drive http://www.teksystems.com/

 Plano, TX 75024 http://www.teksystems.com/

 *jcp.com* http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 *From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
 To: arslist@arslist.org
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote http://www.teksystems.com/*

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 **  http://www.teksystems.com/

 Aye aye aye...

 Sent from my iPhone http://www.teksystems.com/


 On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma *
 epetr...@teksystems.com* wrote: http://www.teksystems.com/

  **  http://www.teksystems.com/

 Hi Alan, http://www.teksystems.com/

   http://www.teksystems.com/

 It is the same project you are working on for 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Ray Palla
You're right Tauf;

Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote $97.
50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.

R

  _

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country
Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com wrote:


**
TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...  This
customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is
over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one will
be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive.
The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many more
'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.

R

  _

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


**

I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J



Thanks for reaching out.



Emma




  _


Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074 ● T (913) 664-0105 tel:%28913%29%20664-0105
F (913)  tel:%28913%29%20338-2435 338-2435


 http://www.teksystems.com/ http://www.teksystems.com




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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
done by this date.
Thanks for the clarification!

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma
epetr...@teksystems.com wrote:

**

Hi Tauf,



It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but
it’s the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their
deadline.



And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I meant
to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional
resource, not a replacement.



Thanks,

Emma




  _


Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074 tel:%28800%29%20318-2074  ● T (913) 664-0105
tel:%28913%29%20664-0105
F (913) 338-2435 tel:%28913%29%20338-2435


 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/
  _


 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/ From: Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM

 http://www.teksystems.com/
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/ **

 http://www.teksystems.com/ 50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's
in Kansas?

Sent from my iPhone

 http://www.teksystems.com/
On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

 http://www.teksystems.com/ **

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement
:S

 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Regards,

 http://www.teksystems.com/

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Andrew C. Goodall

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Software Engineer

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Development Services

 http://www.teksystems.com/ ago...@jcpenney.com

 http://www.teksystems.com/ jcpenney

 http://www.teksystems.com/ 6501 Legacy Drive

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Plano, TX 75024

 http://www.teksystems.com/ jcp.com

 http://www.teksystems.com/

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

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 http://www.teksystems.com/ **

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Aye aye aye...

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 http://www.teksystems.com/ **

 http://www.teksystems.com/ Hi Alan,

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 http://www.teksystems.com/ It is the same 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread pritch
Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a remote 
gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They didn't 
put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are aware to not 
respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

** 
You're right Tauf; 
  
Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote 
$97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks. 
  
R 


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and Kansas 
City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country Club Plaza 
area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you have a chance, 
don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool place... this coming 
from a native and current New Yorker :) 


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com  wrote: 


** 

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this. 
  
Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...  This 
customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is over 
$110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one will be much 
more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive.  The Remedy 
market is currently at a premium and there are many more 'exciting' cities to 
cherry-pick from. 
  
R 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM 


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 




** 


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more 
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J 

  

Thanks for reaching out. 

  

Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074  ● T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 


http://www.teksystems.com

  



  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 

  

** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment: 
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this done 
by this date. 
Thanks for the clarification! 


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma  epetr...@teksystems.com 
 wrote: 

** 



Hi Tauf, 

  

It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover funding 
allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s the best 
our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline. 

  

And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I meant to 
respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional resource, not 
a replacement. 

  

Thanks, 


Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074   ● T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 




  



  


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arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM 




To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 



  

** 


50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas? 

Sent from my iPhone 



On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C  ago...@jcp.com  wrote: 




** 

Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S 

  

  

Regards, 

  

Andrew C. Goodall 

Software Engineer 

Development Services 

ago...@jcpenney.com 

jcpenney 

6501 Legacy Drive 

Plano, TX 75024 

jcp.com 

  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@arslist.org ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM 
To: arslist@arslist.org 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 

  

** 


Aye aye aye... 

Sent from my iPhone 



On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma  epetr...@teksystems.com  
wrote: 




** 

Hi Alan, 

  

It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J 

  

Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074   ● T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 


image001.gif 

  



  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Alan Truelove 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 

  

** 



Yes v interested 


  




From: Emma 

Re: Building A Custom Application (Just Checking)

2012-08-17 Thread Joel Sender
As an OGH developer, I've seen specs range from 'gimme something that works'
to docs the size of phonebooks.  No matter how they're presented, specs are
only the starting point for understanding what needs to be built. Screen
shots are as good a starting point as anything else: they show how the user
understands their process. However it starts, by the end of a design phase,
the list of requirements should be understood by everyone involved.

 

I am NOT a Scrum Master (I only sound like one in meetings), but I have been
on Agile teams in several client organizations. When it works, which has
been most places, it works well for ARS teams.

Agile takes the app dev cycle from years to days; you don't get as much done
in a cycle, but you get more of them.  It also helps larger projects with
armies of developers.

 

A few screen shots can become prototype forms very quickly.

Reviewing prototype forms opens the discussion for workflow requirements.

Several short cycles later, the prototype proves all the concepts and has
identified 'real' specs.

The end result will certainly be different than the original screen shots:
it will have workflow!

 

HTH,

Joel

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net310.829.5552

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Robert Heverley
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Building A Custom Application (Just Checking)

 

** I always say: It's like building the house without the blue prints, it
doesn't work..

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:56 AM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.gov
wrote:

** 

I've written several applications from elaborate requirements documents that
make no reference whatsoever as to what the finished app should look like.
Screenshots only would be a refreshing change compared to that.

 

  _  

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Building A Custom Application (Just Checking)

 

** 

Oh yea 'agile' development ... went through that here a few years back 
it was not a pleasant experience on the Remedy side especially if you like
to do your work once with maybe occasional changes.

 

You all overlooked something even more basic than not knowing what the
processes are required behind the field for workflow ... what's the
character length?

 

I love custom applications (mine) but I can tell you that after 10 years of
working in it from birth to current I would love to rewrite it and take out
all the 'stuff' everyone had to have 'right now'.  After a while it's very
hard to extract things that don't get used.  And, there never seems to be
the time!

 

Susan

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.gov
wrote:

snip

 


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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Alan Truelove
OK..thanks




From: Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** 
Aye aye aye...

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma epetr...@teksystems.com 
wrote:


** 
Hi Alan,
 
It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J
 
Emma
 



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O(800) 318-2074 ● T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435 

image001.gif
 



 
From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Alan Truelove
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote
 
** 
Yes v interested


 
From:Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote

Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with 
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would 
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow 
remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect 
opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some extra 
money, and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN. 
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We are 
able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to start 
the interview process next week—this process will move quickly.

Please respond if you are interested. All qualified candidates will be 
followed up with immediately.

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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Alan Truelove
well I end up Sept 7.. so...




From: Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** 
Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S
 
 
Regards,
 
Andrew C. Goodall
Software Engineer
Development Services
ago...@jcpenney.com
jcpenney
6501 Legacy Drive
jcp.com
 
From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote
 
** 
Aye aye aye...

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma epetr...@teksystems.com 
wrote:
** 
Hi Alan,
 
It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J
 
Emma
 



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O(800) 318-2074 ● T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435 

image001.gif
 



 
From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Alan Truelove
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote
 
** 
Yes v interested
 
From:Emma Petrie-Smith epetr...@teksystems.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote

Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with 
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would 
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow 
remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect 
opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some extra 
money, and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN. 
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing 
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom 
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We are 
able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to start 
the interview process next week—this process will move quickly.

Please respond if you are interested. All qualified candidates will be 
followed up with immediately.

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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Ray Palla
Actually Pritch;

The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
[epetr...@teksystems.com]

After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her position,
I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list.  Just my
2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the ARSlist.
After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.  

You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't have
to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current market
and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of KS, I
wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project with
anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 here.

R

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a remote
gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They
didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are
aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
You're right Tauf; 
  
Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote
$97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks. 
  
R 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country
Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :) 


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com  wrote: 


** 

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this. 
  
Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...  This
customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is
over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one will
be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive. 
The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many
more 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from. 
  
R 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM 


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 




** 


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J 

  

Thanks for reaching out. 

  

Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074  ? T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 


http://www.teksystems.com

  



  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 

  

** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
done by this date. 
Thanks for the clarification! 


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
epetr...@teksystems.com  wrote: 

** 



Hi Tauf, 

  

It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s
the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline. 

  

And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I meant
to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional
resource, not a replacement. 

  

Thanks, 


Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074   ? T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 




  



  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM 




To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 



  

** 


50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas? 

Sent from my iPhone 



On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Goodall, Andrew C  ago...@jcp.com  wrote: 




** 

Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S 

  

  

Regards, 

  

Andrew C. Goodall 

Software Engineer 

Development Services 

ago...@jcpenney.com 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread pritch
That's fine - 'No-one' HAS to.  Just wasn't in the mood for the 25-50 responses 
that came across and had to be deleted.

- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54:10 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Actually Pritch;

The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
[epetr...@teksystems.com]

After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her position,
I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list.  Just my
2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the ARSlist.
After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.  

You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't have
to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current market
and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of KS, I
wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project with
anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 here.

R

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a remote
gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They
didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are
aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
You're right Tauf; 
  
Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote
$97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks. 
  
R 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country
Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :) 


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com  wrote: 


** 

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this. 
  
Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...  This
customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is
over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one will
be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive. 
The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many
more 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from. 
  
R 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM 


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 




** 


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J 

  

Thanks for reaching out. 

  

Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074  ? T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 


http://www.teksystems.com

  



  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 

  

** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
done by this date. 
Thanks for the clarification! 


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
epetr...@teksystems.com  wrote: 

** 



Hi Tauf, 

  

It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s
the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline. 

  

And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I meant
to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional
resource, not a replacement. 

  

Thanks, 


Emma 

  



Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER 
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213 
O (800) 318-2074   ? T (913) 664-0105 
F (913) 338-2435 




  



  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM 




To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote 



  

** 


50/hr sounds very weak. Is that 

Re: Service action Peculiarity

2012-08-17 Thread Eric Roys
Thanks, Misi and Dhanshree. 

Input length is not an issue as source/destination are same size. Swapping 
source field with another source field of same size would technically fail if 
it were an issue of input length, but does not.  Whether the field exists or 
not is not an issue as I assure you it does exist and is being accessed via 
Admin account. What does appear to be at issue is confusion of the id/value 
pairing in whatever is transpiring in the black box of the service action. 
Normally I would not allow the system to default an id so normally this would 
not be an issue, it just so happens that this was a quick prototype and the 
additional scrutiny was not (until now) necessary. And what are the odds that 
even if one specified their own id that the source form and the service handler 
form would have the same ids?

-Eric

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Service action Peculiarity

Hi,

It still seems a bug to me.

If a field does not exist, or the user does not have permissions to it, the 
value should always be NULL.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Hi,

 It’s not a bug. We have seen a case where because of change in the 
 input length of a field it was providing a wrong value.

 HTH
 --
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 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Eric Roys
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:51 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Service action Peculiarity

 Has anyone come across a peculiarity with the filter Service action 
 where-in what is mapped is not what is received on the other end?
 ARS7.6.4 sp2

 The particulars...

 Filter Service Input Mapping:
 inChar000 (536870913) = $host$  //source field id (536870913)
 inChar001 (536870914) = People //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar002 (536870915) = Used by //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar003 (536870916) = $corpid$  //source field id (536870915)

 Source values at time of call say:
 inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
 inChar001 (536870914) = People
 inChar002 (536870915) = Used by
 inChar003 (536870916) = 4712258

 Receiving says (and passes wrong value - see inChar003)...
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1 -- service action input
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar001 (536870914) = People
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar002 (536870915) = Used
 by
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 035856 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar003 (536870916) = Used
 by

 Change Service Input mapping to use new field/id as:
 inChar000 (536870913) = $host$  //source field id (536870913)
 inChar001 (536870914) = People //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar002 (536870915) = Used by //source field id (hardcoded)
 inChar003 (536870916) = $corpid1$  //source field id (536870929) = 
 new field/id not in field id set on destination form

 Use same Source Values as previously noted.

 Receiving now says (and works properly)...
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1 -- service action input
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar000 (536870913) = vm04
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar001 (536870914) = People
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar002 (536870915) = Used
 by
 FLTR TID: 003824 RPC ID: 036444 Queue: Fast  
 Client-RPC: 390620USER: jtkirk
 Overlay-Group: 1inChar003 (536870916) =
 4712258


 Thoughts? Bug? Enhancement? As designed?

 Thanks,

 Eric Roys
 Seamless Technologies


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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off 
topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) )


Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I 
know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in this 
changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do not have 
room for discussing such things openly..


In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is 
about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes to 
about 125 - 130..


110 - 115 + TE when there is commute involved would be a good rate for 
remote projects.


I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any 
idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite resource?


Joe

-Original Message- 
From: Ray Palla
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups: 
public.remedy.arsystem.general

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Actually Pritch;

The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
[epetr...@teksystems.com]

After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her position, 
I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list.  Just my 
2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the ARSlist. 
After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.


You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't have 
to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current market 
and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of KS, I 
wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project with 
anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 here.


R

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a remote 
gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They 
didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are 
aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.


- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
You're right Tauf;

Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote 
$97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.


R


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and 
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country 
Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you 
have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool 
place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)



On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com  wrote:


**

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...  This 
customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is 
over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one will 
be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive. 
The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many more 
'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.


R


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote




**


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J



Thanks for reaching out.



Emma





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074  ? T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435


http://www.teksystems.com








From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
done by this date.
Thanks for the clarification!


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma 
epetr...@teksystems.com  wrote:

**



Hi Tauf,



It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s
the best 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Joe,
From my experience, the only time their rates change is if the
resource is offshore vs. onshore.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off
 topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) )

 Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I
 know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in this
 changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do not have
 room for discussing such things openly..

 In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is
 about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes to
 about 125 - 130..

 110 - 115 + TE when there is commute involved would be a good rate for
 remote projects.

 I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any
 idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite resource?

 Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Palla
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups:
 public.remedy.arsystem.general
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 Actually Pritch;

 The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
 [epetr...@teksystems.com]

 After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her position,
 I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list.  Just my
 2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the ARSlist.
 After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.

 You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't have
 to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current market
 and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of KS, I
 wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project with
 anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 here.

 R

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a remote
 gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They
 didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are
 aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

 - Original Message -
 From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 **
 You're right Tauf;

 Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote
 $97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.

 R


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


 ** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
 Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country
 Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
 have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
 place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)


 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com  wrote:


 **

 TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

 Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...  This
 customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is
 over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one will
 be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive.
 The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many more
 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.

 R


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM


 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote




 **


 I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
 funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J



 Thanks for reaching out.



 Emma





 Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
 O (800) 318-2074  ? T (913) 664-0105
 F (913) 338-2435


 http://www.teksystems.com








 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



 ** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
 It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
 done by this date.
 Thanks for the clarification!


 On 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
So it doesn't make a difference if the resource is remote 100%? Sometimes 
some of their vendors make it look like it does make a difference and offer 
much lower rates for remote..


Joe

-Original Message- 
From: Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:09 PM Newsgroups: 
public.remedy.arsystem.general

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Joe,

From my experience, the only time their rates change is if the

resource is offshore vs. onshore.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:


I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off
topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) )

Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I
know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in 
this
changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do not 
have

room for discussing such things openly..

In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is
about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes 
to

about 125 - 130..

110 - 115 + TE when there is commute involved would be a good rate for
remote projects.

I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any
idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite 
resource?


Joe

-Original Message-
From: Ray Palla
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups:
public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Actually Pritch;

The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
[epetr...@teksystems.com]

After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her 
position,

I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list.  Just my
2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the 
ARSlist.

After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.

You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't 
have
to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current 
market

and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of KS, I
wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project 
with

anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 here.

R

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a 
remote

gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They
didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are
aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
You're right Tauf;

Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote
$97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.

R


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the 
Country

Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com  
wrote:



**

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally... 
This

customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is
over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one 
will

be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive.
The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many more
'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.

R


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote




**


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J



Thanks for reaching out.



Emma





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074  ? T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435


http://www.teksystems.com








From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf 

Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
I could be wrong but for when I was on the client side, they got the
same rate regardless when we asked for pro services.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 So it doesn't make a difference if the resource is remote 100%? Sometimes
 some of their vendors make it look like it does make a difference and offer
 much lower rates for remote..

 Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:09 PM Newsgroups:
 public.remedy.arsystem.general
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 Joe,
 From my experience, the only time their rates change is if the
 resource is offshore vs. onshore.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off
 topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) )

 Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I
 know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in
 this
 changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do not
 have
 room for discussing such things openly..

 In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is
 about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes
 to
 about 125 - 130..

 110 - 115 + TE when there is commute involved would be a good rate for
 remote projects.

 I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any
 idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite
 resource?

 Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Palla
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups:
 public.remedy.arsystem.general
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 Actually Pritch;

 The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
 [epetr...@teksystems.com]

 After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her
 position,
 I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list.  Just my
 2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the
 ARSlist.
 After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.

 You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't
 have
 to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current
 market
 and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of KS, I
 wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project
 with
 anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 here.

 R

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a
 remote
 gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester.  They
 didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are
 aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

 - Original Message -
 From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

 **
 You're right Tauf;

 Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote
 $97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.

 R


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


 ** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and
 Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the
 Country
 Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you
 have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool
 place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)


 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla  ray.pa...@insona.com 
 wrote:


 **

 TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

 Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally...
 This
 customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is
 over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one
 will
 be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive.
 The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many more
 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.

 R


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM


 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote




 **


 I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
 funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J



 Thanks for reaching out.


Re: ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread Susan Palmer
Hi Andrew,

Not sure what 'generational' logging is.  Are you referring to a rolling
log, where you could set a max and then oldest entries drop off when the
max size is reached to make room for new entries?  That would be great to
have some logs continually running for those unexpected times when you'd
like to look at something that happened but the logs weren't on.

Regards,
Susan

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 **

 I’ve been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.

 I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter
 Max-Log-History

 ** **

 I don’t know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I wish
 BMC would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on the
 Server Information Tab.

 e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  

 ** **

 Regards,

  

 *Andrew C. Goodall*

 Software Engineer

 Development Services

 ago...@jcpenney.com

 *jcpenney*

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 Plano, TX 75024

 jcp.com

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Re: ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread ravi rai

Susan
We are on 7604 and this is available you can define the size of the log and it 
keeps rolling.
In an event like service restart it will create backup of the log file and 
start new log file so that you dont loose the log entry for time around the 
event.
 
Ravi 

 



Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 17:21:00 -0500
From: suzanpal...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: ARS generational logging
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 
Hi Andrew,
 
Not sure what 'generational' logging is.  Are you referring to a rolling log, 
where you could set a max and then oldest entries drop off when the max size is 
reached to make room for new entries?  That would be great to have some logs 
continually running for those unexpected times when you'd like to look at 
something that happened but the logs weren't on.
 
Regards,
Susan


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** 


I’ve been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.
I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter Max-Log-History
 
I don’t know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I wish BMC 
would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on the Server 
Information Tab.
e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  
 
Regards,
 
Andrew C. Goodall
Software Engineer
Development Services
ago...@jcpenney.com
jcpenney
6501 Legacy Drive
Plano, TX 75024
jcp.com
 
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Re: ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread Goodall, Andrew C
It is going to help so much in working with support. Can't tell you how many 
times a log has been unworkable or useless because it has rolled over itself 
due to the fixed size readable limit, even 0 limit will stop at 2gb - not 
that is readable/manageable anyway

Max-Log-History: 3 

Sql.log - current log

Sql.001.log  ß oldest generation

Sql.002.log

Sql.003.log ß latest generation /rolled log

 

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

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[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:21 PM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: ARS generational logging

 

** 

Hi Andrew,

 

Not sure what 'generational' logging is.  Are you referring to a rolling log, 
where you could set a max and then oldest entries drop off when the max size is 
reached to make room for new entries?  That would be great to have some logs 
continually running for those unexpected times when you'd like to look at 
something that happened but the logs weren't on.

 

Regards,

Susan

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

** 

I've been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.

I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter Max-Log-History

 

I don't know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I wish BMC 
would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on the Server 
Information Tab.

e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 


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Re: ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread Susan Palmer
That's more clear to me now.  We're still at 7.5 so I guess we'll look at
the next version that comes out for an upgrade hopefully next year.

Thanks for the info Andrew and Ravi !

Susan

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

 **

 It is going to help so much in working with support. Can’t tell you how
 many times a log has been unworkable or useless because it has rolled over
 itself due to the fixed size “readable” limit, even 0 limit will stop at
 2gb – not that is readable/manageable anyway

 Max-Log-History: 3 

 Sql.log - current log

 Sql.001.log  ß oldest generation

 Sql.002.log

 Sql.003.log ß latest generation /rolled log

 ** **

 ** **

 Regards,

  

 *Andrew C. Goodall*

 Software Engineer

 Development Services

 ago...@jcpenney.com

 *jcpenney*

 6501 Legacy Drive

 Plano, TX 75024

 jcp.com

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 5:21 PM
 *To:* arslist@arslist.org

 *Subject:* Re: ARS generational logging

 ** **

 ** 

 Hi Andrew,

  

 Not sure what 'generational' logging is.  Are you referring to a rolling
 log, where you could set a max and then oldest entries drop off when the
 max size is reached to make room for new entries?  That would be great to
 have some logs continually running for those unexpected times when you'd
 like to look at something that happened but the logs weren't on.

  

 Regards,

 Susan

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 I’ve been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.

 I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter
 Max-Log-History

  

 I don’t know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I wish
 BMC would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on the
 Server Information Tab.

 e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  

  

 Regards,

  

 *Andrew C. Goodall*

 Software Engineer

 Development Services

 ago...@jcpenney.com

 *jcpenney*

 6501 Legacy Drive

 Plano, TX 75024

 jcp.com

  


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Re: ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread Axton
Any chance that applies to the arerror log too?
On Aug 17, 2012 5:43 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 That's more clear to me now.  We're still at 7.5 so I guess we'll look at
 the next version that comes out for an upgrade hopefully next year.

 Thanks for the info Andrew and Ravi !

 Susan

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

 **

 It is going to help so much in working with support. Can’t tell you how
 many times a log has been unworkable or useless because it has rolled over
 itself due to the fixed size “readable” limit, even 0 limit will stop at
 2gb – not that is readable/manageable anyway

 Max-Log-History: 3 

 Sql.log - current log

 Sql.001.log  ß oldest generation

 Sql.002.log

 Sql.003.log ß latest generation /rolled log

 ** **

 ** **

 Regards,

  

 *Andrew C. Goodall*

 Software Engineer

 Development Services

 ago...@jcpenney.com

 *jcpenney*

 6501 Legacy Drive

 Plano, TX 75024

 jcp.com

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 5:21 PM
 *To:* arslist@arslist.org

 *Subject:* Re: ARS generational logging

 ** **

 ** 

 Hi Andrew,

  

 Not sure what 'generational' logging is.  Are you referring to a rolling
 log, where you could set a max and then oldest entries drop off when the
 max size is reached to make room for new entries?  That would be great to
 have some logs continually running for those unexpected times when you'd
 like to look at something that happened but the logs weren't on.

  

 Regards,

 Susan

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 I’ve been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.

 I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter
 Max-Log-History

  

 I don’t know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I
 wish BMC would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on
 the Server Information Tab.

 e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  

  

 Regards,

  

 *Andrew C. Goodall*

 Software Engineer

 Development Services

 ago...@jcpenney.com

 *jcpenney*

 6501 Legacy Drive

 Plano, TX 75024

 jcp.com

  


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Re: 6-8 project - Remote

2012-08-17 Thread Ken Pritchard
I doubt the BMC folks that actually do the work get 110-115 per hour.  There 
may be a few top notch individuals that can garner that type of salary, but 
I'd guess that most Remedy Dev/Admiins are earning about a third or so of 
that.  Based on the conversations I've had with several recruiters recently 
(many of which post their openings on this list) folks are lucky right now 
to get half that amount.  I'm not suggesting I'm as talented as most on this 
board, but speaking as an average person the rates below don't sound very 
realistic.


Rather than a couple top level developers putting out the info, maybe we 
could hear from some of the recruiters that are reading this regarding the 
rates they are seeing.



- Original Message -From: Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off 
topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) )


Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I 
know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in 
this changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do 
not have room for discussing such things openly..


In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is 
about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes 
to about 125 - 130..


110 - 115 + TE when there is commute involved would be a good rate for 
remote projects.


I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any 
idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite 
resource?


Joe

-Original Message- 
From: Ray Palla
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups: 
public.remedy.arsystem.general

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Actually Pritch;

The On-Behalf of post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
[epetr...@teksystems.com]

After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her 
position, I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list. 
Just my 2-cents.  I believe these things should be openly discussed in the 
ARSlist. After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of 
us.


You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't 
have to.  That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current 
market and what it takes to get the best guy for the job.  In the case of 
KS, I wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running 
project with anything other than a senior guy.  We are talking 7.6.04 
here.


R

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a 
remote gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester. 
They didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks 
are aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.


- Original Message -
From: Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
You're right Tauf;

Also, this is a mostly remote gig.  That is a huge plus!  I would quote 
$97.50/hr + TE on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.


R


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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and 
Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the 
Country Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any 
of you have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a 
cool place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)



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wrote:



**

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally... 
This customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects 
is over $110/hr + TE...  BMC charges $250/hr.  A short term like this one 
will be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being 
competitive. The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are 
many more 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.


R


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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote




**


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more

Re: ARS generational logging

2012-08-17 Thread Goodall, Andrew C
I don't think so - but that would have been nice.

I say that because the max log file parameter doesn't seem to apply to 
arerror.log so I don't expect this to either. L

 

Regards,

 

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Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:48 PM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: ARS generational logging

 

** 

Any chance that applies to the arerror log too?

On Aug 17, 2012 5:43 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com wrote:

** 

That's more clear to me now.  We're still at 7.5 so I guess we'll look at the 
next version that comes out for an upgrade hopefully next year.

 

Thanks for the info Andrew and Ravi !

 

Susan

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

** 

It is going to help so much in working with support. Can't tell you how many 
times a log has been unworkable or useless because it has rolled over itself 
due to the fixed size readable limit, even 0 limit will stop at 2gb - not 
that is readable/manageable anyway

Max-Log-History: 3 

Sql.log - current log

Sql.001.log  ß oldest generation

Sql.002.log

Sql.003.log ß latest generation /rolled log

 

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:21 PM
To: arslist@arslist.org


Subject: Re: ARS generational logging

 

** 

Hi Andrew,

 

Not sure what 'generational' logging is.  Are you referring to a rolling log, 
where you could set a max and then oldest entries drop off when the max size is 
reached to make room for new entries?  That would be great to have some logs 
continually running for those unexpected times when you'd like to look at 
something that happened but the logs weren't on.

 

Regards,

Susan

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

** 

I've been wanting generational logging in ARS for a long time.

I just learned that is now available with a new ar.cg parameter Max-Log-History

 

I don't know when this was implemented, maybe it was with 7.6.x but I wish BMC 
would have advertised this to admins or made this accessible on the Server 
Information Tab.

e.g. Max-Log-History: 20  

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 


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