[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
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[AsburyPark] What a great debate!!!!
Last night's debate confirmed why I hate the mainstream media. BOTH candidates were fantastic, and EXACTLY the opposite of how the media portrays them. On Biden: What a pro. The media tries to convince you he's a loose cannon who can't control himself. He exuded control and command. He came off as a guy who knows policy, but he connected with the middle class too, which was his job. Seemed genuine. On Palin: Tina Fey may have lost her job last night. The media spent two weeks trying to concince us Plain is stupid, knows no policy and most importantly, can't think for hereself. Here job was to prove them wrong and she did. Strong on facts and policy. Fast thinker and my goodness what a flair! On the debate: Like watching a home run derby. Each candidate was hitting the ball hard. Interesting irony: The knock on Palin is that she is too small town. Biden did all he could to show he's small town with refereced to Scranton and Main Street. Credit Biden for being smarter than the pundits. He needed to do that and did it well. Sarah needed to show confidence on foreign policy and she had a great delivery of policy on it (Biden we knew would do well on that and he did). As an American, I feel much better than I did last week. I have far more confidence in Biden and Palin than I do Obama and McCain. I wish both tickets would flip - they are upside down. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
So vote for obambi As~~~le . And keep it to yourself. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:10:17 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Sarah Palin represents everything that I think is wrong with this country. Her sarcastic, insult laden speech at the Republican convention sickened me, and that was her coming out party. She lost any respect that I had an open mind to at that very moment. Her interviews with Katie Couric leave me speechless. She advocates the senseless and violent killing of wolves. She is a member of a church that thinks speaking in tongues is just fine. She wants to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. And you call all that a fresh breath of common sense Unbelievable. And ignorant. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
now this is what i'm talking about. neither party is interested in genuine civic participation. i am willing to bet most ahem..local governments prefer for us plebs to keep quiet. unless we are kissing their ass. we need a better way to vote. IRV etc...check out fairvote.org opencongress.org we also need to work on our anger issues. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance
corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We prefer adult and responsible. I prefer adult and SEXY! in asbury park of course. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
At least we agree on something. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:28:51 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance now this is what i'm talking about. neither party is interested in genuine civic participation. i am willing to bet most ahem..local governments prefer for us plebs to keep quiet. unless we are kissing their ass. we need a better way to vote. IRV etc...check out fairvote.org opencongress. org we also need to work on our anger issues. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifernjca@ wrote: Abstinence only parents seem to forget wat it was like to be young and horny.. We prefer adult and responsible. Unfortunately, it isn't about preference. We all prefer adult and responsible, but biology creates a desire before those two milestones are reached (for some responsible is never reached). I will teach my son about preventing pregnancy and disease because I am a realist. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. you lost me on this. i was referring to the guy who i am guessing got banned after a number of people called him out on his disease. i am not suggesting that people don't use victimhood to manipulate. ive seen it myself, its not only in the realm of race. women can be pretty good at playing the victim...its a human drive to get what we want. i just really don't see Obama as doing this..and he's half white no? there are people that live beyond their physical bag. obama seems pretty real, in touch, intelligent etc...is he part of the machine? definitely. besides, he looks like he digs his wife. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why should the people bail out Wall Street?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you use Mark to Market accounting when dealing with an asset that is not widely traded? You have no data upon which to set a value. Also, when a firm goes under and is selling off their assets at a fire sale, is it fair to use those sale numbers when someone else is valuing an asset under Mark to Market? Maybe the realty experts on the board can opine. If only we had someone on the board who regularly dealt with burden of valuing unique property? :-) Mark to market is the only true way. Difficulty in estimating value? Welcome to my world. Like trying to catch a falling knife today. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Value
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I don't know how some guys manage to drive Range Rovers around the streets of NYC ): We're capitalist pigs. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Dennis - she is in Sen Stevens' camp for years? Abuse of executive power and obstruction of justice (Trooper Gate). She will be better off as soon as the election is over and she can go back herding caribou and the heat will be off her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, it isn't about preference. We all prefer adult and responsible, but biology creates a desire before those two milestones are reached (for some responsible is never reached). I will teach my son about preventing pregnancy and disease because I am a realist. my parents added in the fun of non intercourse sex. ill never forget my mom telling me how wonderful oral sex was. i had years of sex before having intercourse. both my parents talked to me about sex. my dad said to me once...if you feel like getting laid, masturbate. making love is for making love. some horny old jaded republican told me he must have been a romantic, i think he was a realist, its just that we are so wacked about sex in this country. i recently had a conversation with women i grew up with and we talked about first sexual experiences and the like. i couldn't believe how sad some of those stories were. so many women have sex without CHOOSING to enter into that great space. girls and boys need to be taught how sacred our sexuality is. but that can't happen if the discussion amounts to just say no. then there is all this repression and desire and we are vulnerable to being manipulated by sexual images and the like...i happen to think Palin is using flirtatiousness to gain support, but... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Nice. You called me an asshole because I support Obama. I hope you are proud of that. Good for you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So vote for obambi As~~~le . And keep it to yourself. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:10:17 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Sarah Palin represents everything that I think is wrong with this country. Her sarcastic, insult laden speech at the Republican convention sickened me, and that was her coming out party. She lost any respect that I had an open mind to at that very moment. Her interviews with Katie Couric leave me speechless. She advocates the senseless and violent killing of wolves. She is a member of a church that thinks speaking in tongues is just fine. She wants to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. And you call all that a fresh breath of common sense Unbelievable. And ignorant. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, traderdube@ .. wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The debate...
Biden got me on this... ...and reduce the principal amount owed on mortgages...so that the homeowner can afford to stay in their home... That's interesting. So say you $300k on your home and decide that you can't afford it any longer and let it ride into foreclosure (or threat of). What's the plan? Ok ok, you only $150,000 instead of the 3 you signed for and lets reduce the interest payment from seven to say...how about 3%? Good now hat money you saved can be used to be out back into the economy or to buy yourself some steaks or hey, why not a boat or a car you might not be able to afford? So why not eliminate eveyone's interest due on credit cards or their balances as well or how about limiting the interest rates banks can charge on lates on credit cards. Read the fine print - f-up and you can be around 29% or more... Why not just eliminate income taxes for a couple years - except the rich. I love that line. Tax the rich more becasue they are the devil. Does the average joe american pay a mansion tax... Rich has to be adjusted for inflation. Here's another way the average joe can save a few $ (check with your accountant) - go into business. any small business. Report your ALL your income and ALL your expenses. If your self employed your health benefits I believe are now 100% dedcutible..a portion of your car payment, phones, internet etc etc even a portion of your meals - anything that relates to business... So looky today...now Wells Fargo likes Wachovia. Should of listened to rumors. So my Citi looked good yesterday, looks like shit today. That's the free market working. Put something up for sale and get the word out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Shore Friends for Obama Fundraiser
Shore Friends for Obama Fundraiser Sunday, October 12th 4:00PM -8:00PM V.F. W. 1515 Corlies Avenue Neptune NJ 07753 Please join the Shore Friends for Obama as we come together to support Sen. Barack Obama for the next President of the United States and Sen. Joe Biden as the next Vice President of the United States. NOW IS THE TIME FOR CHANGE! DINNER * MUSIC*FELLOWSHIP*GUEST SPEAKERS $35.00 Donation per person Please detach lower portion and return NAME:__ OCCUPATION: ADDRESS: WORKPLACE:__ ___ TELEPHONE:___ ( ) Yes, I will attend. I would like ___ tickets ( ) Sorry, I am unable to attend, but I would like to make a donation of $__ Please make checks payable to: SHORE FRIENDS FOR OBAMA PO BOX 271 NEPTUNE NJ 07754 Michael W. Brim, Municipal Chairman Asbury Park Democratic Executive Committee 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712-5550 Cell: 732-996-8160 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] What a great debate!!!!
No one anywhere outside HannityLand agrees with this assessment of Palin. She flopped. Big time. ABC Dowd 10:52 PM: “I think fundamentally the American public came away with this tonight, just like they came away with the debate last night, saying, you know, I'm leaning in Obama and Biden's corner, and this didn't change my mind.” Gibson: I'm amazed that we have agreement from all three of you. CNN David Gergen 10:05 PM: People underestimating how good Biden was, Biden “was really good” CNN Alex Castellanos 10:38 PM : The second part of the debate, you know Republicans aren't going to win debates on Iraq, I don't care who you put on that stage tonight, we're not going to win debates on Iraq and we didn't tonight. But overall, we've had a rough week as Republicans. You know, this has not been our best week. CBS Bob Schieffer 10:35 PM: “I must say, I thought Senator Biden had a very good night. He seemed comfortable with the facts, it was clear he has dealt with these issues over the years, I thought he put his experience on display in a very good way.” MSNBC Chris Matthews 10:35 PM: Not only did she say I'm not going to do any more interviews, it seemed, but she was saying, I'm not going to listen to uh Gwen Ifill tonight. She said I'm not going to uh give the answers the moderator wants to ask for. What an extraordinary statement. I'm not going to play by the rules and when I get elected I want more power in the office than it's had before. Hmm.. Not too much humility here. CBS Bob Schieffer 10:35 PM: “I must say, I found it a little disconcerting, time and again, Governor Palin would just choose not to answer the question and launch into some dissertation, sometimes talking points, and not really address what Gwen Ifill had asked her.” PBS David Brooks 10:39 PM: When he talked about his family and the death of his wife, that is a moment people remember, what they remember about the debates is the moment when you think you see the person and that was a moment where I thought you saw Joe Biden. MSNBC Andrea Mitchell 10:38 PM: She didn't answer the questions. And, in fact, she would say, I want to talk about taxes, which hadn't even come up. FOX News Frank Luntz 10:44 PM: With the Luntz Polling Group was in the Anheuser-Busch Headquarters, When Asked Independent Voters Their Reactions One Voter Said, “she had a presentation about her, but that also annoyed me, too. She catered to kind of an adorability and lacked substance.” Washington Post (Eugene Robinson): Exactly an hour into the debate, Joe Biden began an answer by saying, Facts matter, Gwen. To him, maybe. To Sarah Palin, maybe not. The pattern, so far, has been one of Biden presenting facts and Palin countering with… saying stuff. Sometimes she throws in a fact, but mostly she seems to be offering a string of approximate policy positions, encomiums to the American spirit, disputed interpretations of Barack Obama's record and anecdotes from Alaska. Washington Post (Chris Cillizza): Go Biden Go! Again, very good moment for Biden. The more he talks Bush=McCain the better. Philadelphia Inquirerer (Will Bunch): Biden points out that Ahmadinjad isn't the surpreme ruler of Iran -- how come people don't bring that up. Hammering McCain on the Spain issue -- the McCain camp really screwed up on the way it handled that one. Salon (Joan Walsh) How Sarah Palin blew it: Joe Biden and Sarah Palin were talking to two different Americas Thursday night. Actually, that's unfair to Joe Biden; he was trying to talk to everyone. I can say for certain, though, that Sarah Palin was talking to – and winking at – her own private Idaho, and for long stretches of the debate, it was an unnerving experience. Washington Post: (E.J. Dionne Jr.) McCain's Dicey Gamble: Gambling with his presidential candidacy is McCain's right. Gambling with the country McCain says he puts first is another thing entirely. And last night's vice presidential debate took place at precisely the moment when a majority of American voters decided that having Palin in line for the presidency is more than a little bit scary. CNN (Bob Schneider): Palin’s answers do not lack confidence, they lack coherence. Washington Post (Chris Cillizza): She pivots to executive appearance but her answer on the role of the vice presidency was REALLY bad. TIME: Palin didn’t make any big mistakes, but she also didn’t reassure that she could handle the presidency. Washington Post (Chris Cillizza): Palin: Worst spot in the debate. Looking down at her notes a lot. Really struggling. TIME: This closing statement sounds like she's giving a speech to the College Republicans. It's really amateur hour. Politico (Ben Smith): As this debate has gone on, Palin's gotten more abstract, Biden more concrete. ABC News (Rick Klein): Palin: So Joe, there you go again. Anyone else over that line? Couldn't it
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
So vote for McLame , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Rock Musician wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Value
Very slowly. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:14 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I don't know how some guys manage to drive Range Rovers around the streets of NYC ): We're capitalist pigs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
You kidding? She's going to be impeached right after she loses and then will end up on FAUX NOISE as a correspondent: Right where her substance-free, pretty little empty head belongs. Last month, the state Legislature appointed an independent investigator to review whether the governor or her aides abused their power by pressuring Monegan to fire the trooper, a probe that the Democratic chairman of the state Senate Judiciary Committee said could lead to Palin’s impeachment. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26458400/ On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:17 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Dennis - she is in Sen Stevens' camp for years? Abuse of executive power and obstruction of justice (Trooper Gate). She will be better off as soon as the election is over and she can go back herding caribou and the heat will be off her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
I find her dirty and underhanded toward her colleagues who put her where she's gotten in the first place! She bites before being bitten! The only loyalty she has, is to herself and McCain, for the moment but I'll bet she wouldn't hesitate to off him, too, when it suits HER! She's a SHARK! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube@ wrote: Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Dennis - she is in Sen Stevens' camp for years? Abuse of executive power and obstruction of justice (Trooper Gate). She will be better off as soon as the election is over and she can go back herding caribou and the heat will be off her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Is that why she winks all the time? Flirting or I've got one over you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
I can only wish! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You kidding? She's going to be impeached right after she loses and then will end up on FAUX NOISE as a correspondent: Right where her substance-free, pretty little empty head belongs. Last month, the state Legislature appointed an independent investigator to review whether the governor or her aides abused their power by pressuring Monegan to fire the trooper, a probe that the Democratic chairman of the state Senate Judiciary Committee said could lead to Palin's impeachment. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26458400/ On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:17 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube@ wrote: Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Dennis - she is in Sen Stevens' camp for years? Abuse of executive power and obstruction of justice (Trooper Gate). She will be better off as soon as the election is over and she can go back herding caribou and the heat will be off her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Built in racism always has its' assumptions, that all brothas do! Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! Look it up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
Oak, I didn't major in Accounting, (Business Admin.), but even I couldn't figure out lowering the Principal! The Interest? Yes, but the Principal? I'm lost! Principal X the Interest X the time! Is that still the formula? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biden got me on this... ...and reduce the principal amount owed on mortgages...so that the homeowner can afford to stay in their home... That's interesting. So say you $300k on your home and decide that you can't afford it any longer and let it ride into foreclosure (or threat of). What's the plan? Ok ok, you only $150,000 instead of the 3 you signed for and lets reduce the interest payment from seven to say...how about 3%? Good now hat money you saved can be used to be out back into the economy or to buy yourself some steaks or hey, why not a boat or a car you might not be able to afford? So why not eliminate eveyone's interest due on credit cards or their balances as well or how about limiting the interest rates banks can charge on lates on credit cards. Read the fine print - f-up and you can be around 29% or more... Why not just eliminate income taxes for a couple years - except the rich. I love that line. Tax the rich more becasue they are the devil. Does the average joe american pay a mansion tax... Rich has to be adjusted for inflation. Here's another way the average joe can save a few $ (check with your accountant) - go into business. any small business. Report your ALL your income and ALL your expenses. If your self employed your health benefits I believe are now 100% dedcutible..a portion of your car payment, phones, internet etc etc even a portion of your meals - anything that relates to business... So looky today...now Wells Fargo likes Wachovia. Should of listened to rumors. So my Citi looked good yesterday, looks like shit today. That's the free market working. Put something up for sale and get the word out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] This group is still way off topic
Would it be too much to ask that the political discussions please stop on this board? There is now a group devoted to AP politics... the discussions should be had over there now. I, and I'm sure many other people here are just sick of reading the political discussions here... we all dont agree on politics, no two people ever really do, but cant we all agree that this group is about Asbury Park??? Anyway, here's an article about Asbury Park for once... stores setting winter hours... parking might be suspended for the winter season... shore fitness is gone and the first ave pavilion will be opening soon... http://www.app.com/article/20081003/NEWS01/810030362/1004 Full text: Asbury Park shops set winter hours More than 25 shops, restaurants and night spots on the city's new boardwalk and beachfront are set to keep going into the fall and winter after agreeing with landlord Madison Marquette to be open from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. Thursday through Monday, closing on Tuesday and Wednesday. Madison Marquette rebuilt the boardwalk this year with the intention of making the beachfront an attraction with enough venues and excitement to draw people into the winter as well. Courtney Johnson, director of marketing, said 27 of the businesses are going to stay open through the cooler weather with longer hours planned for the holiday season. That number includes the last of the new restaurants and businesses now set to open by the end of October in the First Avenue Pavilion, one of three that underwent significant renovation last spring and summer. The tenants were pretty relieved that the landlord actually kind of met us in the middle (on hours to be open), said Eddie Catalano, who owns Eddie Confetti ice cream near Convention Hall and is opening Boardwalk Bagels and a second ice cream store in a few weeks close to the Carousel at the city's south end. I think the winter schedule is going to be a good thing, said Steven Ranuro, whose father is a downtown developer, and whose family opened Biggie's Clam Bar in Convention Hall the past summer. This will give our customers a chance to feel that we're here, and it will build a foundation for this boardwalk to be year-round, Ranuro said. At the same time the boardwalk is going forward, several beachfront owners asked city officials Wednesday night if they could suspend the new paid parking that began in August on the waterfront. City Councilman Ed Johnson said the city is open to everyone's participation and said a parking subcommittee meeting was planned for Thursday to decide what to do. We are going to solve our current problems, not extend our problems, he said. Helen Doyle, project manager for McCloone's Supper Club and Salt Water Beach Cafe in the former Howard Johnson's building, praised the city's help in making the two McCloone restaurants a success so far. But she also asked that the city suspend the paid parking for the winter months because people are coming in with parking tickets that have transformed patrons into irate customers. I think our customers' patience is running out, Doyle said. Hopefully it will be decided no more metered parking on the boardwalk for the winter months. Paid parking is a source of revenue, along with beach fees and taxes, that allows the city to benefit from the waterfront's success. The city has collected about $43,000 since it began in mid-August, with the collection rate dropping off as expected after schools opened, Gregory Mayers, the city financial officer, said Thursday. When the city began enforcing paid parking with new pay stations in August, the posted signs explaining where people should pay (at machines at intersections) were not large or clear enough to alert the public that a new system was in place. The city has ordered new signs and is taking other steps to smooth out the parking. Marilyn Schlossbach, who has the new Langosta Lounge restaurant along with her husband's new surf shop in the Third Avenue Pavilion, said the people getting tickets has been tremendously negative for this city. Several other owners spoke at the City Council meeting and most offered to serve on a city parking committee. Courtney Johnson said Madison Marquette wants to keep the parking lots free for the winter. And, she said one tenant that won't be on the boardwalk for the winter is Shore Fitness, whose instructors were from Brooklyn and came to work at the Shore just for the summer. We've been showing the space, she said. There's a lot of interest. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak, I didn't major in Accounting, (Business Admin.), but even I couldn't figure out lowering the Principal! The Interest? Yes, but the Principal? I'm lost! Principal X the Interest X the time! Is that still the formula? Even lowering the interest is questionable. Like I said earlier in 1986 for an investment house I had to pay around 12.5% (actaully a principal residence with 2 other apartments).. Crestmont Federal Savings (sold a couple times now I think). I had to put a suit on a meet with the president of the bank. It had do with the appraisal. 2 houses on one lot with 3 units in Ocean Twp had no comps...other then Asbury Park and Long Branch. I had to pay the rate, then pay to refi and pay to refi etc..just like now. So I have one house with an interest only at 9% I've had for a few years - hopefully I'll get it refi'd this week...so if anyone out there is looking for a 6% return with collateral, call me. Become my banker. Maybe if som seniors were scammed, find the scammers and the bankers and sue them - those that aren't bk. Remember the house of cards here in AP... this is it on a national level. Help people who invested in houses - hoping to FLIP them and got burned? Might as well pick up all the people who invested in the banks that got burned as well - the americans who dumped money in Bear Stearns, Goldman, Merrill and every stock there... One way of looking at reducing the principal is that it MIGHT help stop foreclosures and free up the court systems. The houses will hold value vs going into foreclosure and aovid dumoing of homes by banks, keep out vulture investors and letting people keep their PRINCIAPL residences. If a home going into foreclosure is not the principal residence - tough shit foreclose. If it were aninvestment property where they claimed income on it - tough shit - foreclose. If it goes into foreclosure the homes should be made available FIRST to people who intend to occuppy the home as their principal residence. If not, go ahead and reduce the principal payments. Back in Jan I reduced my rate from 6.5% to 6% on a jumbo loan (that should changed as well), It cost me $2500. Damn I like Biden more and more. I've been waiting for another drop. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
I thought that was odd as well, but what I think he was talking about was in the context of a bankruptcy proceeding so that people can stay in their homes. I do not think he was speaking just generally. And if you think about it that way, it is not totally unheard of, to discharge part of a debt in the context of a bankruptcy proceeding. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
If you think she is flirting and a barbie you are the one with the problem ... your sick and need counseling. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:28:56 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ yahoo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
AMEN! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah Palin represents everything that I think is wrong with this country. Her sarcastic, insult laden speech at the Republican convention sickened me, and that was her coming out party. She lost any respect that I had an open mind to at that very moment. Her interviews with Katie Couric leave me speechless. She advocates the senseless and violent killing of wolves. She is a member of a church that thinks speaking in tongues is just fine. She wants to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. And you call all that a fresh breath of common sense Unbelievable. And ignorant. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube@ wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6-pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that why she winks all the time? Flirting or I've got one over you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that was odd as well, but what I think he was talking about was in the context of a bankruptcy proceeding so that people can stay in their homes. I do not think he was speaking just generally. And if you think about it that way, it is not totally unheard of, to discharge part of a debt in the context of a bankruptcy proceeding. Agreed that in BK. Should still go into foreclosure then determine the facts. A simplified system vs BK and Foreclosure. More for Jen and Shortsale guy to talk about. What happens if the borrower STILL doesn't make the payments or home prices fall further. If a home dropped in value 40%- what do you do? Is still think let 2nd home / investment home mortgages fail. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Look past that and look at whats real The problem with America is they stray from what needs to be done and harp on the Drama instead. - Original Message From: fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:36:16 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6-pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: Is that why she winks all the time? Flirting or I've got one over you! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
I do apologize. I do take responsibility for my actions. Unlike either side of any election or party. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:58:05 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
Mike I agree with you. The problem here is people don't have respect or the sense of what is real. If you don't have respect you don't see it. That's ignorance! - Original Message From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:00:30 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simplified system vs BK and Foreclosure. More for Jen and Shortsale guy to talk about. What happens if the borrower STILL doesn't make the payments or home prices fall further. If a home dropped in value 40%- what do you do? Is still think let 2nd home / investment home mortgages fail. There is a loss mitigation tool for FHA mortgages called a partial claim. Under this option the servicer negotiates with the borrower and FHA to advance funds representing the delinquent balance. Basically, the servicer of the loan is paid a partial claim using the FHA insurance in order to reinstate the loan. There's always lots of rules and conditions on any loss mitigation option. Sometimes we can do partial claims using private mortgage insurance, but it's much more difficult than an FHA claim which isn't easy itself. Loans can be modified too. Servicers can recast the loan by taking the delinquency and increasing the term of the loan. There is also the option of increasing loan payments for a fixed period of time to make up the delinquency. Obviously, this is for homeowners who could originally afford the loan and suffered a temporary financial setback which has been corrected. Not too good for the crazy loans we deal with today. I have used short sales in a predatory loan remediation with HUD's cooperation. We arranged for the short sale of the house to an approved non-profit which then resold the house back to the original homeowner at the same closing. It was creative lending and it did work for about 25% of the people in the scam. Usually short sales are of little benefit to the homeowner other than they avoid full-blown foreclosure and defiiciency judgments. Short sales and deeds-in-lieu of foreclosure are better than foreclosure, but still result in the loss of the house and equity. The main problem in today's debacle is that the tools are meant for a different set of issues. In the past when loan servicers were flush they usually wouldn't even try to work with the homeowner or their counselor. Now, they need to and hopefully that will increase our options. A short refinance would be a great tool. It would certainly create better market stability. The Hope for Homeowners Act went into effect Oct 1. It does have a provision for partial loan forgiveness. The problem is that lenders get to choose if they will or won't participate. This is why I get pissed about a bailout. If lenders want to be bailed out then they must agree to the provisions of the Hope for Homeowners Act. FHA lenders should be required to work with HUD approved counselors or lose the ability to write FHA insured loans. Lenders that don't want to can go it on their own, but they cannot expect any federal assistance (Tommy that was for you. I'm not advocating government control of free trade. I'm requesting that those who request government assistance comply with government set provisions). Here's a link to a good summary on the new law put out by the state of Nevada where foreclosure rates are higher than anywhere else in the country except maybe Florida. http://nvhousing.state.nv.us/pr/QandA4HR3221.pdf Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that why she winks all the time? Flirting or I've got one over you! I thought her bangs were messing with her false eyelashes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As always Jen, thanks for putting it into real words. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak, I didn't major in Accounting, (Business Admin.), but even I couldn't figure out lowering the Principal! The Interest? Yes, but the Principal? I'm lost! Principal X the Interest X the time! Is that still the formula? I majored in history and I hate math. The formula for mortgage qualification is pretty simple though. We calculate affordability based on maximum monthly mortgage payment which lenders call PITI (pity) or Principal (amount of loan), Interest, Taxes and Insurance. gross monthly income X 40% less monthly debt equals qualified PITI To calculate the maximum mortgage amount you divide the final number by .00X. X=interest rate. So a gross monthly income of $1000 with monthly consumer debts of $100 Interest rate of 5% 1000 x .40 400 -100 _ 300 300/.005 + $60,000 My borrower qualifies for a loan amount of $60,000. Reducing the principal would lower the payment much more than lowering the rate. That is what a partial claim does. BTW this is the easy method. Some lenders use more than one percentage and calculate debt and housing ratios separately, but for the most part one ratio works fine. Sorry if this is wonky. I explain it much better in a classroom than I can in an online group. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
In a message dated 10/3/2008 12:44:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What happens if the borrower STILL doesn't make the payments or home prices fall further. If a home dropped in value 40%- what do you do? Last I heard of such a proposal (to directly bailout homeowners) was by Martin Feldstein, conservative economist, chief advisor to both Reagan and now advises McCain. He opposed the original bailout, but suggested a bill that would allow the government build a firewall and purchase individual no recourse mortgages up to a certain figure (e.g., maybe $80,000) to people who have mortgages. For the 10 million homes with negative equity, mortage replacement loans at very low rates. The money would go directly to the bank or mortgage holder. He thinks that minimize the defaults and foreclosures that are causing the real estate downward spiral. His segment on Charlie Rose from Tuesday, Sept. 30 can be heard here: _http://www.charlierose.com/guests/martin-feldstein_ (http://www.charlierose.com/guests/martin-feldstein) _http://tinyurl.com/45dbqu_ (http://tinyurl.com/45dbqu) It's a moot point now. The House just passed the bill at 1:27. **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
EVERYONE IN AMERICA thought she was flirting and a Barbie. You're the outsider on this one. On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Rock Musician wrote: If you think she is flirting and a barbie you are the one with the problem ... your sick and need counseling. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:28:56 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ yahoo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance
NO REPUBLICAN is claiming to be a Republican this week. Good for you. You're right with the pack on this one. Your Party owns this. They broke it, They own it. Be a man and own up to your party's failures. Or be a child and stick your fingers in your ears and sing la a la I can't ear you! Your choice. On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Rock Musician wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically,economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
The problem with America is that they let the Republicans steal the last two elections. On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Rock Musician wrote: Look past that and look at whats real The problem with America is they stray from what needs to be done and harp on the Drama instead. - Original Message From: fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:36:16 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6-pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: Is that why she winks all the time? Flirting or I've got one over you! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Not is the Republicans have anything to do with it. http://www.newsweek.com/id/158392 http://www.futuremajority.com/node/2964 http://tinyurl.com/52qnxh http://tinyurl.com/3vwh3b http://tinyurl.com/4cajnl http://tinyurl.com/4vzsbt http://tinyurl.com/3rmd8g On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Rock Musician wrote: At least we can still VOTE . Right! - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:22:54 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance So vote for McStain. And keep it to yourself. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Rock Musician wrote: So vote for obambi As~~~le . And keep it to yourself. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:10:17 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Sarah Palin represents everything that I think is wrong with this country. Her sarcastic, insult laden speech at the Republican convention sickened me, and that was her coming out party. She lost any respect that I had an open mind to at that very moment. Her interviews with Katie Couric leave me speechless. She advocates the senseless and violent killing of wolves. She is a member of a church that thinks speaking in tongues is just fine. She wants to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. And you call all that a fresh breath of common sense Unbelievable. And ignorant. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Another lie. On Oct 3, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Rock Musician wrote: I do apologize. I do take responsibility for my actions. Unlike either side of any election or party. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:58:05 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
IRONY ALERT: On Oct 3, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Rock Musician wrote: Mike I agree with you. The problem here is people don't have respect or the sense of what is real. If you don't have respect you don't see it. That's ignorance! - Original Message From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:00:30 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Or your spelling. On Oct 3, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Rock Musician wrote: I am not proud of loosing my cool. and I apologize again. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 9:13:51 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Nice. You called me an asshole because I support Obama. I hope you are proud of that. Good for you. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for obambi As~~~le . And keep it to yourself. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:10:17 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Sarah Palin represents everything that I think is wrong with this country. Her sarcastic, insult laden speech at the Republican convention sickened me, and that was her coming out party. She lost any respect that I had an open mind to at that very moment. Her interviews with Katie Couric leave me speechless. She advocates the senseless and violent killing of wolves. She is a member of a church that thinks speaking in tongues is just fine. She wants to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. And you call all that a fresh breath of common sense Unbelievable. And ignorant. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, traderdube@ .. wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The debate...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gross monthly income X 40% less monthly debt equals qualified PITI To calculate the maximum mortgage amount you divide the final number by .00X. X=interest rate. So a gross monthly income of $1000 with monthly consumer debts of $100 Interest rate of 5% 1000 x .40 400 -100 _ 300 300/.005 + $60,000 My borrower qualifies for a loan amount of $60,000. That's the scary part. THE FORMULA IS BROKEN. Qualifies is a coin-toss away from BK or bailout. HOw do then stop the Credit Card companies and the person then walking over and getting a car...flat screen tv and food...gas, kids, clothes... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Accepted, and one thing that I agree on is that our two party system appears to be broken. That's why I'm an independent. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do apologize. I do take responsibility for my actions. Unlike either side of any election or party. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:58:05 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i happen to think Palin is using flirtatiousness to gain support, but... She winked right at me in the camera last night. :-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
Joe Sixpack, is that you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: i happen to think Palin is using flirtatiousness to gain support, but... She winked right at me in the camera last night. :-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. Did you miss the 2006 election? The Democrats have had the legislature for the past two years. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last month, the state Legislature appointed an independent investigator to review whether the governor or her aides abused their power by pressuring Monegan to fire the trooper, a probe that the Democratic chairman of the state Senate Judiciary Committee said could lead to Palin's impeachment. That Trooper tasered his step son. She should not have sought his removal? I guess a cop should only get in trouble if he tasers Rodney King. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6- pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? Look at that. On the left they still think us small town folksy people don't even exist - that we're just faking it. Then they wonder why they lost 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections. Sincerely, Joe Six Pack Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Sixpack, is that you? Yea, except these days my stomach looks more like a keg than a six pack. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
I did not say they did not exist. I am saying that PALIN is faking it, or playing it up to try to appeal to them. Implicit in that statement is an acknowledgement that they exist. Biden did a bit of that too with the Home Depot story, but Palin does that nonsense constantly, and I find it very annoying. Plus, I think she is a dolt when it comes to any issues of substance, but that is beside this point. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6- pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? Look at that. On the left they still think us small town folksy people don't even exist - that we're just faking it. Then they wonder why they lost 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections. Sincerely, Joe Six Pack Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not say they did not exist. I am saying that PALIN is faking it, or playing it up to try to appeal to them. Implicit in that statement is an acknowledgement that they exist. Biden did a bit of that too with the Home Depot story, but Palin does that nonsense constantly, and I find it very annoying. Plus, I think she is a dolt when it comes to any issues of substance, but that is beside this point. So your position is Palin is not small town and folksy? Then please tell me what about her makes you think the opposite of her. What makes her cosmopolitan and patrician in your eyes? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
Yeah. Right. Keep telling yourself that. (just too f-in' scary...) On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:48 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i happen to think Palin is using flirtatiousness to gain support, but... She winked right at me in the camera last night. :-) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
a tie. do you follow politics? or do you just hope everyone is uninformed ao you can pull a fast one? On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. Did you miss the 2006 election? The Democrats have had the legislature for the past two years. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
That's not why she fired him and you know it. Got the new Right Wing Rewrite History memo? Walt Monegan lost his job as public safety director because he resisted Gov. Sarah Palin's budget policies and showed outright insubordination, say papers the governor's lawyer filed Monday with the state Personnel Board. It was Palin's strongest effort yet to snuff allegations she sacked Monegan because he refused to fire a state trooper involved in an ugly divorce with the governor's sister. http://www.adn.com/front/v-printer/story/527346.html On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:58 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last month, the state Legislature appointed an independent investigator to review whether the governor or her aides abused their power by pressuring Monegan to fire the trooper, a probe that the Democratic chairman of the state Senate Judiciary Committee said could lead to Palin's impeachment. That Trooper tasered his step son. She should not have sought his removal? I guess a cop should only get in trouble if he tasers Rodney King. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Why isn't the political group being used for these political discussions?
I created a political group so we can all go nuts over there at this highly political time. And yes, I'm guilty of posting in political threads here, but it's getting out of hand, so if you aren't a member, why not head over there, join the group, and everybody will be much happier. The group is called Asbury Park Politics. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance
I did enjoy O'Reilly ripping Barney Frank a new ahole. Barney usually has underage male pages do that for him. He played a segment where he is telling Republicans Fannie and Freddie are ok just two years ago. THEN he denied it. Dems run the banking committee and they didn't know this was happening? The reason the house shot down the first attempt was the Dems wanted to give ACORN billions. It happens to be Obama's community group. You know the one that gave him all of his experience. The one that has many of its members in prison for voter fraud. I wish they would give felons the right to vote. That would put all Dems in with rapists, pedophiles, molesters, murderers, and theives. Yes. I would want to associated with them. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 1:47 PM NO REPUBLICAN is claiming to be a Republican this week. Good for you. You're right with the pack on this one. Your Party owns this. They broke it, They own it. Be a man and own up to your party's failures. Or be a child and stick your fingers in your ears and sing la a la I can't ear you! Your choice. On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Rock Musician wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
John you are uninformed what are you talking about. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:52 PM a tie. do you follow politics? or do you just hope everyone is uninformed ao you can pull a fast one? On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. Did you miss the 2006 election? The Democrats have had the legislature for the past two years. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
Well if you can vote for Obama because your black I guess I can vote for Palin because she is hot! --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:51 PM Yeah. Right. Keep telling yourself that. (just too f-in' scary...) On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:48 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... wrote: i happen to think Palin is using flirtatiousness to gain support, but... She winked right at me in the camera last night. :-) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Making up things, so you can tell yourself you're right again? No one says small town folk (we're all going to start calling them people again, once you Bushies and your fake populism are wiped out) don't exist. They just don't believe Scarah tanning bed in her house Palin is one. http://tinyurl.com/4wzu8t On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:03 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6- pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? Look at that. On the left they still think us small town folksy people don't even exist - that we're just faking it. Then they wonder why they lost 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections. Sincerely, Joe Six Pack Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] APPress Reports 5 Arrested Reputed Gang Members
For those of you who have read my report on the major drug bust announced yesterday by State Attorney General Anne Milgram and County Prosecutor Luis Valentin, on AsburyRadio.com, you may be confused about the number arrested with gang affiliations versus the number of reputed gang members as reported on the Asbury Park Press web site today. It took me three calls to the prosecutor's office today, but I got an answer - and I listened to the Mp3s again. First the Mp3s: Attorney General Milgram, who spoke first, said Twenty-two of the individuals arrested today have gang affiliations. Prosecutor Valentin, referred to approximately 20 gang members and a significant number of fugitives, among the 50 arrested. As for checking with the source, the Prosecutor's Office: We've been told to rely on the press release, which identifies five of those arrested as members of mainly the Bloods street gang, and an additional 12 individually identified as an associate of a gang (s). The source we spoke with referred us to the internet for the distinction between the two. For now, we are satisfied to say that there were a total of 17 individuals, among the 50 arrested, with street gang affiliations. Of course that would imply that both the attorney general and the county prosecutor misspoke. This is vitally important to our community. Thanks for reading my report. Maureen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
Joe SixPacks, by definition, are not Lawyers. See? This is another thing we're going to get rid of: just saying words and terms mean whatever you want them to mean, rather than what they actually mean. On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:11 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Sixpack, is that you? Yea, except these days my stomach looks more like a keg than a six pack. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
So your position is Palin is not small town and folksy? Then please tell me what about her makes you think the opposite of her. What makes her cosmopolitan and patrician in your eyes? Palin this week characterized herself as “an everyday, working-class American” who knows how it feels when the stock market takes a hit. The Palins’ total income last year was split almost evenly between Sarah Palin’s white-collar job and her husband’s blue-collar work. Sarah Palin’s salary as governor was $125,000; Todd Palin took in $46,790 as a part-time oil production operator for BP Alaska in Prudhoe Bay, plus $46,265 in commercial fishing income and $10,500 in Iron Dog snowmachine race winnings. These figures do not include nearly $17,000 in per diem payments Palin received for 312 nights spent in her own home since she was elected governor; she also has received $43,490 to cover travel costs for her husband and children. In addition, each member of the Palin family received $1,654 in state oil royalties paid to all Alaskans. The Palins’ assets seem enviable: a half-million-dollar home on a lake with a float-plane at the dock, two vacation retreats, commercial-fishing rights worth an estimated $50,000 or more and an income last year of at least $230,000. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Why isn't the political group being used for these political discussions?
Yes. If someone would justifiably go right over there, the problem would cease. On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: I created a political group so we can all go nuts over there at this highly political time. And yes, I'm guilty of posting in political threads here, but it's getting out of hand, so if you aren't a member, why not head over there, join the group, and everybody will be much happier. The group is called Asbury Park Politics. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
Unfortunately there is no real anymore. Sharon can never tell me how Obama is more qualified than Palin she instead will call you names. Her favorite is the race card or ignorance never an answer though. There isn't one he should get more points because he is black; you know like affirmative-action. Obama will be the first affirmative-action president and we relive the wonderful Jimmy Carter years. Palin is qualifed to be vice president but Obama with equal or less experience is qualified to be president. I saw one poll that said Biden isn't qualified to be president. Not enough experience I guess. Obama on the other hand has it going on. He talks alot and never comes up with answers. We are going to get a middle class tax cut. WITH WHAT!!?? We are going to get a record TAX increase of course if you be on welfare you will be getting a check for nothing. Clinton promised that too and as soon as he was elected he said no way instead I'll raise your taxes and he did. With the economy being in shambles that is exactly what the US needs right now. He promised to bring jobs but from where? Back from China and Mexico? Who in this country would work for five bucks a day. The crap from China is one reason inflation in this country is still manageable. We will pull out of Iraq and Iran will pull in. Gas prices not high enough for you? Obama is a mamma's boy and plans on retreating. I can't blame him his daddy retreated on him and his mother but hey it is part of black heritage. Yup it will all be better when Obama is president. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 1:09 PM Mike I agree with you. The problem here is people don't have respect or the sense of what is real. If you don't have respect you don't see it. That's ignorance! - Original Message From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ yahoo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:00:30 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Who the hell are you and others to talk? The country is going to hell and your big concern is what will happen to Tillie, a old theater, and a bowling alley. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:06 PM Making up things, so you can tell yourself you're right again? No one says small town folk (we're all going to start calling them people again, once you Bushies and your fake populism are wiped out) don't exist. They just don't believe Scarah tanning bed in her house Palin is one. http://tinyurl. com/4wzu8t On Oct 3, 2008, at 4:03 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ ... wrote: It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6- pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? Look at that. On the left they still think us small town folksy people don't even exist - that we're just faking it. Then they wonder why they lost 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections. Sincerely, Joe Six Pack [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Jack has no problem calling others asshole but takes offense when you call him an asshole. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:58 PM You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
I always call racists assholes. You are a special case. You stopped mattering when you made one racist comment after another about Obama and African Americans in general, i.e. hussein, black assed etc. That being said, you've done nothing at all to upgrade your asshole status. You also failed to notice that the conflict you mentioned was peacefully and rapidy resolved. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack has no problem calling others asshole but takes offense when you call him an asshole. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:58 PM You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an
[AsburyPark] Re: Why isn't the political group being used for these political discussions?
Ditto... I second your motion.. and Oak's motion. This has all been lovely, but it needs to move on. Some person wants to visit the City and asked about The Berkely (TWICE!!) - I abstained from comment as I do not live in AP. This person will probably never visit, not pay a parking fee or support the City in any way because their post is so completely lost amongst the recent political flurry. http://groups.yahoo.com/asburypolitics http://groups.yahoo.com/asburypolitics Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a political group so we can all go nuts over there at this highly political time. And yes, I'm guilty of posting in political threads here, but it's getting out of hand, so if you aren't a member, why not head over there, join the group, and everybody will be much happier. The group is called Asbury Park Politics. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Well perhaps if education didn't hurt and the high school dropout rates were somehow get above 50% they would have the opportunity to go on to further their education. Don't finish high school and there ain't nothin much else to do but get high. Black parents have no responsibility to see that their kids finish high school. No it is white people that cause the problem. I'm the racist huh? I don't have to look anything up Sharon I completed my education and I didn't get out of grad school a bleeding heart liberal. BTW I can roll a blunt as well as anyone in the hood. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:00 AM Built in racism always has its' assumptions, that all brothas do! Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! Look it up! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Or she could say she was a Democrat all along and that would make it okay. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:46 AM You kidding? She's going to be impeached right after she loses and then will end up on FAUX NOISE as a correspondent: Right where her substance-free, pretty little empty head belongs. Last month, the state Legislature appointed an independent investigator to review whether the governor or her aides abused their power by pressuring Monegan to fire the trooper, a probe that the Democratic chairman of the state Senate Judiciary Committee said could lead to Palin¢s impeachment. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26458400/ On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:17 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Dennis - she is in Sen Stevens' camp for years? Abuse of executive power and obstruction of justice (Trooper Gate). She will be better off as soon as the election is over and she can go back herding caribou and the heat will be off her. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Generalization is always at the core of every racist --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well perhaps if education didn't hurt and the high school dropout rates were somehow get above 50% they would have the opportunity to go on to further their education. Don't finish high school and there ain't nothin much else to do but get high. Black parents have no responsibility to see that their kids finish high school. No it is white people that cause the problem. I'm the racist huh? I don't have to look anything up Sharon I completed my education and I didn't get out of grad school a bleeding heart liberal. BTW I can roll a blunt as well as anyone in the hood. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:00 AM Built in racism always has its' assumptions, that all brothas do! Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! Look it up! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
All you can do is name call. Answer the question you can't because Obama is a piece of crap. An unqualified piece of crap that needs a bitch slap for not visiting wounded troops in Iraq. I am sure his heffer wife beats him down. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:00 AM What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
So what you are saying is Democratic women are slutty? Time to change parties! --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 8:28 AM --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jennifer jennifernjca@ ... wrote: Unfortunately, it isn't about preference. We all prefer adult and responsible, but biology creates a desire before those two milestones are reached (for some responsible is never reached). I will teach my son about preventing pregnancy and disease because I am a realist. my parents added in the fun of non intercourse sex. ill never forget my mom telling me how wonderful oral sex was. i had years of sex before having intercourse. both my parents talked to me about sex. my dad said to me once...if you feel like getting laid, masturbate. making love is for making love. some horny old jaded republican told me he must have been a romantic, i think he was a realist, its just that we are so wacked about sex in this country. i recently had a conversation with women i grew up with and we talked about first sexual experiences and the like. i couldn't believe how sad some of those stories were. so many women have sex without CHOOSING to enter into that great space. girls and boys need to be taught how sacred our sexuality is. but that can't happen if the discussion amounts to just say no. then there is all this repression and desire and we are vulnerable to being manipulated by sexual images and the like...i happen to think Palin is using flirtatiousness to gain support, but... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Really? Are you aware that Barney Frank introduced a bill this year to decriminilize it? People smoke it, people buy it, so why not tax the hell out of it!!! We did a bang up job of preventing alcohol from getting into the country during prohibition. I have a feeling this will be the year! --- On Fri, 10/3/08, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 8:05 AM --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
OK, I agree, the national politics stuff has to stop. I thought it would be OK from now to Novemeber, because I thought there would be some thoughtful commentary (and we got some from folks like Gabbi and Fancypaantz and Jack and Dennis and I'm probably leaving out a few). But Mike and John just want to make sweeping gereralizations about large groups of people, which is less than High School level. That I don't think the Group should have to go through. I'm not going to some new place to discuss national politics. I like the folks here and wanted to share with them. I don't have a need to talk to just anyone (just looking to talk to friends). But I won't do anymore national politics here. Fun while it lasted. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All you can do is name call. Answer the question you can't because Obama is a piece of crap. An unqualified piece of crap that needs a bitch slap for not visiting wounded troops in Iraq. I am sure his heffer wife beats him down. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:00 AM What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] That Other Election
Asbury Park's City Council election is 7 months away. I tried this once before - maybe it was too far from the eletion to raise interest. I'll try again: Aside from the 5 who are seated, nominate who else you would like to see run. Here's mine (no particular order): Paul Vail Amy Quinn Carolyn Curtin Stuart Koperweis Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
The right never agrees. Not on one single board I've even been on. Rules are for the little people. Like Palin in the debate, rules I've agreed to, only apply to others. On Oct 3, 2008, at 5:47 PM, justifiedright wrote: OK, I agree, the national politics stuff has to stop. I thought it would be OK from now to Novemeber, because I thought there would be some thoughtful commentary (and we got some from folks like Gabbi and Fancypaantz and Jack and Dennis and I'm probably leaving out a few). But Mike and John just want to make sweeping gereralizations about large groups of people, which is less than High School level. That I don't think the Group should have to go through. I'm not going to some new place to discuss national politics. I like the folks here and wanted to share with them. I don't have a need to talk to just anyone (just looking to talk to friends). But I won't do anymore national politics here. Fun while it lasted. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All you can do is name call. Answer the question you can't because Obama is a piece of crap. An unqualified piece of crap that needs a bitch slap for not visiting wounded troops in Iraq. I am sure his heffer wife beats him down. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:00 AM What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park's City Council election is 7 months away. I tried this once before - maybe it was too far from the eletion to raise interest. I'll try again: Aside from the 5 who are seated, nominate who else you would like to see run. Here's mine (no particular order): Paul Vail Amy Quinn Carolyn Curtin Stuart Koperweis Stuart moved Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart moved NOO! Say it ain't so!! When did that happen? Where did he go? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] 85% of Violence Crime Centered in 14 NJ Cities
In addressing drug violence and open air drug markets at yesterday's press conference, State Attorney General Anne Milgram said law enforcement tracking analysis shows that 85% of violent crime is concentrated in just 14 New Jersey towns. Asbury Park is 1 of the 14. The good news is that Milgram called AP's police department's recent gains against crime as nothing short of tremendous. The murder rate is down 67%, Robbery is down 20% and Robbery with a deadly weapon is down 45 percent. Milgram singled out Chief Mark Kinmon in particular for praise. You can hear all of Milgram's and Prosecutor Luis Valentin's exact words on Mp3 at asburyradio.com. Maureen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Stuart moved NOO! Say it ain't so!! When did that happen? Where did he go? wanamassa Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
