[AsburyPark] Snow Everywhere
I've been in snow for almost a month but these countries in Europe really know how to deal with it, Sure there were problems, but what NJ got would be considered a flurry over here. It put a cramp in my vacation travels but added to to ambiance. I'm not surprised reading about APs problems with with cleanup, it just follows that same pattern I've seen with the redevelopment. Incompetence. I'm glad some other members have the guts to say so. When you can't get life and safety services to every resident you've got a problem. After all isn't that the bare bones expectation of service from an urban area like AP? Your taxes are huge and the biggest budget item is fire and police. You all deserve to get your money's worth. Glad there was no fire anywhere. Have a great New Years's (even those that love to beat me up) LOL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
Jack's and Oak's comments have been most reasonable. And regarding those anti-gov people, keep in mind that, during this state of emergency for a storm that forecast well in advance, guv chris christie and Lieutenant Governor Kim Guadagno are MIA. The guv who has made a name for himself by scapegoating government employees is at Disney World. The lieutenant governor who is supposed to be in charge when he is absent is in Mexico. In a message dated 12/28/2010 10:59:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hing...@yahoo.com writes: It's amazing to me that so many people these days are anti-government, but when it doesn't work for them personally, it's the first thing they blame for their troubles. If you aren't happy, run for city office and try and make a difference. I think about it all the time. Maybe it's an eye opening experience about the reality of our city. Maybe not. But honestly, the amount of bitching about this snowstorm is ridiculous. It will be past history in a few days. Not life changing for a vast majority of us. If anything, it should be life changing in the way that it should teach each and every one of us to be prepared. If you have plenty of food and water, then unless it's life or death you should stay home, not drive, and let the streets be cleaned ASAP. But no, people don't prepare, they try and drive, get stuck, and block progress. Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? Sometimes, people just need to be patient and stay home. Yes, your job might not be happy with that, but realistically speaking, what's more important, your job, your safety, or being part of a bigger picture where people think about we instead of me? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
That makes me feel better I'm working from home, although I did attempt to go in, car got stuck 30ft from my driveway, an hour of digging and 30mins of maneuvering and its somewhat back in my driveway Police were polite when I called to find out the ramifications of leaving the car there (it didn't look promising at first) they also pinned blame on the state and county for not having their roads cleared Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:01:05 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet 35 is partially open, 18 closed, parkway single lane parts... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: I'm taking your question as facetious. Waiting until there is several feet accumulated is ridiculous. The proper process is to start sanding/salting when snowfall starts. Followed by clearing during the storm so that accumulations on streets do not occur leading to the stuck vehicles you mention. Dealing with a heavy snowfall is s much art as it is science and requires experienced leadership to be effective. Waiting until a storm is over and then trying to address it is clearly irresponsible. Certainly there can be extenuating circumstances (available resources, equipment/manpower), but the basic process is well known. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Did any of you ever try to plow 3-4 feet of snow - with cars stuck in the road? Front end loaders are one of the only ones to start making a path. In ot, we just got plowed out 7 am Tues . The county hasnt been able to clear all of norwood ave. With layoffs and v-days and limited equipment along with record blowing snowfall [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
I agree with you on what the small gov'mint people are feeling! They want a government that miraculously come to their aid in weather emergencies like this but 9-11, should have taught everyone to be prepared! We have had almost 2 weeks of weather warnings that the storms that flooded Southern California was headed this way. I can't think of anyone NOT watching or hearing of the weather debacle headed this way! Right now, there's hardly anything open for business for lack of municipal services unprepared! This storm was not as bad as the Blizzard of '96, but the response is terrible, as usual. Over the last 3 decades I've seen municipal and State workers pay go past what Federal Workers were getting, but as far as services, equipment went wanting and privatized as in garbage collections, streets being repaired and general infrastructure go begging! So you hated Corzine the billionaire and voted for the thug/bully prosecutor who made his career fighting so-called corruption, more like entrapment using the infamous Dwek, so he can get a lighter sentence for ratting out people suspected of criminal action. He comes into Trenton, like the bully he is and berate the teachers and any worker covered by a union, makes the Democrats look like the bad guys they aren't and you get the government you deserve! Where is Christie? Disneyworld! His Lieutenant? Mexico! Great! Re-elect him for more of the same and stop your whining! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: I think we live in a hypocritical culture. Some people are all for smaller government but when it happens, and people feel the loss, they complain that somethings wrong. I find this to be ridiculous. The same people preach about personal responsibility... Ok, so we were getting report after report about a weather issue...did the paramedic, air traffic controller or heart surgeon make plans for a disaster? Probably not. Instead, when the disaster hit, it's easier to bitch about it than take the so called personal responsibilty and be prepared. We ALL heard the warnings. Yet how many of us got our cars stuck after the fact while trying to get things we should have had in the first place? What's more important? Having milk for coffee after forgetting to get some, or risking getting your car stuck and screwing with snow clean up progress? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Doug M dougandcathy_mcqueen@ wrote: So what you're saying is, if someone has a job as a paramedic, heart surgeon or air traffic controller, they should just stay home until city, county and state governments mount an adequate response to the snow? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
I got my wife to work in toms river yesterday. Came back and got rid of my mother in law to ac airport stopped and played a few hands of blackjack went to shoprite wegmans then turned around and went back to toms river for my wife...the parkway was near perfect. By the home depot I went around two stuck cars to offer to pull them out and I was cursed at. I was in a jeep. A rough regular ride but a great snow car. No one was supposed to be on the road. Last. Night 35 was stop a mess and 18 just getting done. As far as the city getting key employees dug out that's emergency management. Face it in the event of a real disaster you're on your own. Look at katrina. It was a state of emergency. And if it weren't for my motherinlaw I wouldn't of been here either. Now I have to go shovel some snow off a flat roof and deck. In cave man days the wife complained about walking. The husband was pisses and chisled a rock and made a wheel. We have the internet to waste time and bitch. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote: That makes me feel better I'm working from home, although I did attempt to go in, car got stuck 30ft from my driveway, an hour of digging and 30mins of maneuvering and its somewhat back in my driveway Police were polite when I called to find out the ramifications of leaving the car there (it didn't look promising at first) they also pinned blame on the state and county for not having their roads cleared Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:01:05 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet 35 is partially open, 18 closed, parkway single lane parts... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: I'm taking your question as facetious. Waiting until there is several feet accumulated is ridiculous. The proper process is to start sanding/salting when snowfall starts. Followed by clearing during the storm so that accumulations on streets do not occur leading to the stuck vehicles you mention. Dealing with a heavy snowfall is s much art as it is science and requires experienced leadership to be effective. Waiting until a storm is over and then trying to address it is clearly irresponsible. Certainly there can be extenuating circumstances (available resources, equipment/manpower), but the basic process is well known. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Did any of you ever try to plow 3-4 feet of snow - with cars stuck in the road? Front end loaders are one of the only ones to start making a path. In ot, we just got plowed out 7 am Tues . The county hasnt been able to clear all of norwood ave. With layoffs and v-days and limited equipment along with record blowing snowfall [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
Now the people on the east side get a small sample of what the people on the southwest side dealt with on a different scale. We have cars and can't drive. There are so few jobs that people can't telecommute for a day or two...unless its critical care. You can do facebook and shop from home just like work. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b...@... wrote: I agree with you on what the small gov'mint people are feeling! They want a government that miraculously come to their aid in weather emergencies like this but 9-11, should have taught everyone to be prepared! We have had almost 2 weeks of weather warnings that the storms that flooded Southern California was headed this way. I can't think of anyone NOT watching or hearing of the weather debacle headed this way! Right now, there's hardly anything open for business for lack of municipal services unprepared! This storm was not as bad as the Blizzard of '96, but the response is terrible, as usual. Over the last 3 decades I've seen municipal and State workers pay go past what Federal Workers were getting, but as far as services, equipment went wanting and privatized as in garbage collections, streets being repaired and general infrastructure go begging! So you hated Corzine the billionaire and voted for the thug/bully prosecutor who made his career fighting so-called corruption, more like entrapment using the infamous Dwek, so he can get a lighter sentence for ratting out people suspected of criminal action. He comes into Trenton, like the bully he is and berate the teachers and any worker covered by a union, makes the Democrats look like the bad guys they aren't and you get the government you deserve! Where is Christie? Disneyworld! His Lieutenant? Mexico! Great! Re-elect him for more of the same and stop your whining! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I think we live in a hypocritical culture. Some people are all for smaller government but when it happens, and people feel the loss, they complain that somethings wrong. I find this to be ridiculous. The same people preach about personal responsibility... Ok, so we were getting report after report about a weather issue...did the paramedic, air traffic controller or heart surgeon make plans for a disaster? Probably not. Instead, when the disaster hit, it's easier to bitch about it than take the so called personal responsibilty and be prepared. We ALL heard the warnings. Yet how many of us got our cars stuck after the fact while trying to get things we should have had in the first place? What's more important? Having milk for coffee after forgetting to get some, or risking getting your car stuck and screwing with snow clean up progress? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Doug M dougandcathy_mcqueen@ wrote: So what you're saying is, if someone has a job as a paramedic, heart surgeon or air traffic controller, they should just stay home until city, county and state governments mount an adequate response to the snow? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Check out YouTube - Fuckin Snow Day 2010 Asbury Park, NJ
Thanks, Steve. I forwarded it to my kids, living out of state who are used to the kind of response/lack of response, to disasters like this. If any of you have lived in NJ for ANY period of time, KNOW to prepare for the WORST! I lived in Neptune for 20 years, paid huge real estate taxes and for my promptness, received NOTHING in return. My street was a block and a half long! Last street to be plowed, even though we had a postal worker living right next door. My kids called to see if we are okay. Knowing me my sons knew that I am like a squirrel in the Fall. This being the Holidays, I can feed an ARMY! When I was younger, I was like that guy! I KNOW the feeling! So when tea-partiers scream for small government, THIS is what you get. No matter that Asbury Park residents are OVER-taxed, bad or no planning is how this goes. Politicians who think they have it made and think these residents have small memory are IN for it, next elections or you get what you elect! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyst...@... wrote: _YouTube - Fuckin Snow Day 2010 Asbury Park, NJ_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm46UqGARR4) this is hilarious...from the other list [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark]
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[AsburyPark] Check out Videos Posted by Chuck Cutaia: Fuckin Snow II: The Sequel
_Videos Posted by Chuck Cutaia: Fuckin Snow II: The Sequel - The Citizens of Asbury Park (1)_ (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=487841716379comments) Steve Herman, Asbury Tower, 1701 Ocean Ave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
hinge, I think we can all vagree its stupid for people to get out in thier cars for non-emergencies. I think there are probably few people who are out driving to get milk for thier coffee. It sounds like you are saying both you and the city blames abandoned cars for a lack of plowing... but these few abandoned cars are NOT an excuese for only having one front end loader to try and move snow AFTER the fact for the entire city. If there was a plan in place - a plan for snow removal that we the people pay taxes for - they could have lessened the impact by plowing as it was snowing, salting the roads, etc. This is not an emergency yet. i am happy and have food at home and water and electricity. I am however angry as hell that the city PD blows me off and says it doesnt know when the streets will be plowed, the DPW doesnt answer the phone and answering machine is full, and that there are no police out there for public safety , or tow trucks to take care of abandoned cars or PD to ticket the absentee landlords and lazy homeowners who have not yet plowed thier sidewalks!! Im fed up and im going out to shovel the damn street myself On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hinge hing...@yahoo.com wrote: I think we live in a hypocritical culture. Some people are all for smaller government but when it happens, and people feel the loss, they complain that somethings wrong. I find this to be ridiculous. The same people preach about personal responsibility... Ok, so we were getting report after report about a weather issue...did the paramedic, air traffic controller or heart surgeon make plans for a disaster? Probably not. Instead, when the disaster hit, it's easier to bitch about it than take the so called personal responsibilty and be prepared. We ALL heard the warnings. Yet how many of us got our cars stuck after the fact while trying to get things we should have had in the first place? What's more important? Having milk for coffee after forgetting to get some, or risking getting your car stuck and screwing with snow clean up progress? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Doug M dougandcathy_mcqu...@... wrote: So what you're saying is, if someone has a job as a paramedic, heart surgeon or air traffic controller, they should just stay home until city, county and state governments mount an adequate response to the snow? While I agree with your point about taking action instead of complaining, this is one case where the government response to an important need was inadequate. For example, Route 35 in Ocean Township looked like a war zone, even at 11 pm on Tuesday. At the same time, the parking lots of the Monmouth Mall, Wegman's, and even Red Lobster were all infinitely better than the state highway. Why are these private enterprises so much more capable of clearing the snow? ...and I'm a fairly liberal Democrat, but I can admit when the public sector F's up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: It's amazing to me that so many people these days are anti-government, but when it doesn't work for them personally, it's the first thing they blame for their troubles. If you aren't happy, run for city office and try and make a difference. I think about it all the time. Maybe it's an eye opening experience about the reality of our city. Maybe not. But honestly, the amount of bitching about this snowstorm is ridiculous. It will be past history in a few days. Not life changing for a vast majority of us. If anything, it should be life changing in the way that it should teach each and every one of us to be prepared. If you have plenty of food and water, then unless it's life or death you should stay home, not drive, and let the streets be cleaned ASAP. But no, people don't prepare, they try and drive, get stuck, and block progress. Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? Sometimes, people just need to be patient and stay home. Yes, your job might not be happy with that, but realistically speaking, what's more important, your job, your safety, or being part of a bigger picture where people think about we instead of me? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
Re: [AsburyPark] Snow Everywhere
ah yes, so now the expected becomes the exemption. when a block of houses is on fire we don't praise the one or 2 firefighters who show up, we ask, where are the rest of them? we dont praise the trash men who pick up one or 2 houses worth of trash while leaving the rest of the city holding thier privates in thier hands. I personally don't lay down and just pay the bill when i am over charged or when i don't get the services or products i pay for. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:45 AM, marioa...@aol.com wrote: The headlines for any major newspaper in the Northeast indicate that both the bitchin' and the mass disruptions due to slow progress in snow removal are not unique to Asbury Park: E.g.: _http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29hospitals.html?hp_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29hospitals.html?hp) _http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29weather.html?ref=nyregion_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29weather.html?ref=nyregion) _ http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1hdlOnly=1cf=allncl=dcJL49dKRvQDndM4 NHEbld8uxTIVMtopic=h_ ( http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1hdlOnly=1cf=allncl=dcJL49dKRvQDndM4NHEbld8uxTIVMtopic=h) So bug off mr/ms anonymous newbee Two exceptions seems to be Rahway where streets seem to be passable, and Newark where Mayor Booker has done a commendable job of communicating with residents. In a message dated 12/29/2010 5:55:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, newbeet...@ymail.com newbeetoap%40ymail.com writes: When you can't get life and safety services to every resident you've got a problem. After all isn't that the bare bones expectation of service from an urban area like AP? Your taxes are huge and the biggest budget item is fire and police. You all deserve to get your money's worth. Glad there was no fire anywhere. Have a great New Years's (even those that love to beat me up) LOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? The state because they NEVER showed up to plow it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Once people start thinking they are entitled is the beginning of the end. This was a disaster class snow storm. We all had plenty of warning. The big picture is not about the response, but how the people are equipped to deal with it. Complaining after the fact does nothing. The real focus should be on why did people ignore the warnings and chose to drive, and then get stuck and block the process of cleaning the mess. We've come to a point in our culture when we either blame others because people don't want to accept the blame, or blame the government that we think is too big for not serving us. Honestly, toughen up and get over it. There will always be assholes in the world. But I think the abandoned car bs is overplayed here and in NYC. They started too late and did not do enough. I saw abandoned cars and the roads could have still been plowed better where they were stuck but weren't. I bet a lot got stuck because the roads were not plowed in time. How the f$ck do major highways remain shut down two days after a storm has ended. Give me a break. I am beginning to think that a lot was done on purpose because of cuts here and in NYC. Two trucks can plw an entire highway. What the hell is the problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Disgusted
I was able to free my vehicle this afternoon and enter the public road, 5th Ave East of Grand . We have a serpentine one car width path with a 15 feet high pile of snow in the middle of the road. Heck Street is completely snowed in and has not seen any attempt at clean-up, people there are stranded. Went East to the Beachfront and found that 5th Ave between Kingsley and Ocean is completely plowed clean, curb-to-curb. There was not a soul down there aside from a few people with their dogs and with snow blowers doing the MM sidewalks. What are the City's priorities ? Obviously not to address the dire need of residential areas such as mine that are dodging snow mountains in the road or are completed snow-bound. Instead an area with minimal traffic and no residents is cleared instead. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Disgusted
Well so far norwood ave who h county is a mess as still is rt 35 and 138 . --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: I was able to free my vehicle this afternoon and enter the public road, 5th Ave East of Grand . We have a serpentine one car width path with a 15 feet high pile of snow in the middle of the road. Heck Street is completely snowed in and has not seen any attempt at clean-up, people there are stranded. Went East to the Beachfront and found that 5th Ave between Kingsley and Ocean is completely plowed clean, curb-to-curb. There was not a soul down there aside from a few people with their dogs and with snow blowers doing the MM sidewalks. What are the City's priorities ? Obviously not to address the dire need of residential areas such as mine that are dodging snow mountains in the road or are completed snow-bound. Instead an area with minimal traffic and no residents is cleared instead. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
On Monday I saw a state plow stuck on Asbury Ave as it was plowing the street. From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 12:11:03 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? The state because they NEVER showed up to plow it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] A New Jersey City Digs Out From 32 Inches
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[AsburyPark] Check out Asbury Park hopes to get all roads plowed by Thursday | APP.com | A
_Asbury Park hopes to get all roads plowed by Thursday | APP.com | Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/article/20101229/NEWS/101229058/Asbury-Park-hopes-to-get-all-roads-plowed-by-Thursday) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
Neptune's 4x4 vehicle ems vehicle carrying a critical patient got stuck on my street we did everything possible to try and get the vehicle dug out to no avail neighborhood ended up getting blankets so the patient could be placed on a sled like gurney and pulled three blocks short of 35 to an oem vehicle. ems left the vehicle returned to have the vehicled pulled out by a private contractor with a front loader who worked for neither Neptune or AP nothing else has come through ridge ave. Last year when city personnel started salting/sanding and plowing when the snow started we weathered the storm-I am fortunate enough to take time off using personal/vacation days some people are not as fortunate and when they miss a day they miss pay or could possibly be fired as was the threat to my neighbor so asking people to wait four days or more after a storm to be patient the street will soon be plowed??? First two days we rec'd reverse 911 calls nothing since so this should be exceptable I think not-The State County,AP,Neptune and surrounding towns slept on this storm,my mom's and sisters street not plow yet in Netpune,!!!-gotta go finally hear a plow on my street From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 12:11:03 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? The state because they NEVER showed up to plow it. t [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
Wi From: denise denisem...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:10:46 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet Neptune's 4x4 vehicle ems vehicle carrying a critical patient got stuck on my street we did everything possible to try and get the vehicle dug out to no avail neighborhood ended up getting blankets so the patient could be placed on a sled like gurney and pulled three blocks short of 35 to an oem vehicle. ems left the vehicle returned to have the vehicled pulled out by a private contractor with a front loader who worked for neither Neptune or AP nothing else has come through ridge ave. Last year when city personnel started salting/sanding and plowing when the snow started we weathered the storm-I am fortunate enough to take time off using personal/vacation days some people are not as fortunate and when they miss a day they miss pay or could possibly be fired as was the threat to my neighbor so asking people to wait four days or more after a storm to be patient the street will soon be plowed??? First two days we rec'd reverse 911 calls nothing since so this should be exceptable I think not-The State County,AP,Neptune and surrounding towns slept on this storm,my mom's and sisters street not plow yet in Netpune,!!!-gotta go finally hear a plow on my street From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 12:11:03 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? The state because they NEVER showed up to plow it. t [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (46) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .Wishful thnking it was Neptune traveling through not AP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
From: denise denisem...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:18:00 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet Wi From: denise denisem...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:10:46 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet Neptune's 4x4 vehicle ems vehicle carrying a critical patient got stuck on my street we did everything possible to try and get the vehicle dug out to no avail neighborhood ended up getting blankets so the patient could be placed on a sled like gurney and pulled three blocks short of 35 to an oem vehicle. ems left the vehicle returned to have the vehicled pulled out by a private contractor with a front loader who worked for neither Neptune or AP nothing else has come through ridge ave. Last year when city personnel started salting/sanding and plowing when the snow started we weathered the storm-I am fortunate enough to take time off using personal/vacation days some people are not as fortunate and when they miss a day they miss pay or could possibly be fired as was the threat to my neighbor so asking people to wait four days or more after a storm to be patient the street will soon be plowed??? First two days we rec'd reverse 911 calls nothing since so this should be exceptable I think not-The State County,AP,Neptune and surrounding towns slept on this storm,my mom's and sisters street not plow yet in Netpune,!!!-gotta go finally hear a plow on my street From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 12:11:03 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? The state because they NEVER showed up to plow it. t [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (46) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .Wishful thnking it was Neptune traveling through not AP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wishful thinking it was Neptune passing through [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
the joke is on me -wishful thinking it was Neptune passing through From: denise denisem...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:38:06 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet From: denise denisem...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:18:00 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet Wi From: denise denisem...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:10:46 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet Neptune's 4x4 vehicle ems vehicle carrying a critical patient got stuck on my street we did everything possible to try and get the vehicle dug out to no avail neighborhood ended up getting blankets so the patient could be placed on a sled like gurney and pulled three blocks short of 35 to an oem vehicle. ems left the vehicle returned to have the vehicled pulled out by a private contractor with a front loader who worked for neither Neptune or AP nothing else has come through ridge ave. Last year when city personnel started salting/sanding and plowing when the snow started we weathered the storm-I am fortunate enough to take time off using personal/vacation days some people are not as fortunate and when they miss a day they miss pay or could possibly be fired as was the threat to my neighbor so asking people to wait four days or more after a storm to be patient the street will soon be plowed??? First two days we rec'd reverse 911 calls nothing since so this should be exceptable I think not-The State County,AP,Neptune and surrounding towns slept on this storm,my mom's and sisters street not plow yet in Netpune,!!!-gotta go finally hear a plow on my street From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 12:11:03 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? The state because they NEVER showed up to plow it. t [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (46) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .Wishful thnking it was Neptune traveling through not AP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wishful thinking it was Neptune passing through [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
