[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
A SENIOR Center and the Board of Ed. Centrally located and convenient, but who listens to me? I'm just the 800 pound gorilla in the room! New City Hall, or is the location, too small? New Recreation Center/Computer Lab/Children's Museum? All purpose Hall, to attract socials/new Library. Just some suggestions. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figured this would be a good discussion for everyone. Curious to see what ideas everyone has for the future of the Metropolitan Hotel site. Single-family homes, apartments, a new hotel, condos, a mix of some or all of those, or something else? Consider its location... close to the beach, close to downtown, adjacent to a park, across the street from new development, on one of the main gateways to the Asbury Park waterfront... what would you like to see built on its site? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I like that, too! In San Antonio, across the street from the Alamo, is Ripley's Believe it or Not! You see some of the gruesome stuff, that's just in the window! Yeeech! And on the street, was a pink cadillac reportedly driven by Elvis! Next door to that, was a 50's type, movie theatre, with an old fashioned 50's Marquee, right downtown, where public transportation, dropped you off, etc. Didn't know until I visited, but what we think is the Alamo, is just the Mission Church, that once stood there. The Alamo, actually consisted of acres and acres of land, now commercially used in downtown, San Antonio. That old Mission, stood a mile back from, where the ramparts of the Alamo once stood, with Cannons at each corner. Don't believe me? Look it up! I was so proud to see the State Flags of New York, New Jersey and Louisiana hanging, for every man that served in the ill-fated fight. There's still graffiti on the walls and huge Bowie knives, on display in their cases. When I was a kid, with this vivid imagination, I owned a Davy Crockett hat and a rubber pirates' knife! I used to use my mother's eyebrow pencil, to draw a mustache above my lips like Jean LaFitte! Jesus, I was a nut! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some great ideas: http://www.wlra.us/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
Did you learn how to pull, the taffy? I would love to learn how to do that! Criterion is on Lewis Street, in Eatontown, if you want to go and buy some! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Former Home of the Worlds Best Salt Water Taffy...Criterion Chocolates (I worked there... tough dirty work but I loved every minute of it) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I certainly did, in fact I learned all aspects of candy making. I also worked in the Eatontown factory, as well as all the other Criterion stores. My official title with the company was as driver, but when there wasn't any driving to do they would send me to help out at whatever location needed me...so sometimes I'd be at the Long Branch store, other times at the 2 Asbury stores, then back to the factory in Eatontown. I also delivered all over NJ and NYC. That job didn't pay much, but for what it was worth it was pretty enjoyable. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you learn how to pull, the taffy? I would love to learn how to do that! Criterion is on Lewis Street, in Eatontown, if you want to go and buy some! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: How about Former Home of the Worlds Best Salt Water Taffy...Criterion Chocolates (I worked there... tough dirty work but I loved every minute of it) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I certainly did, in fact I learned all aspects of candy making. I also worked in the Eatontown factory, as well as all the other Criterion stores. My official title with the company was as driver, but when there wasn't any driving to do they would send me to help out at whatever location needed me...so sometimes I'd be at the Long Branch store, other times at the 2 Asbury stores, then back to the factory in Eatontown. I also delivered all over NJ and NYC. That job didn't pay much, but for what it was worth it was pretty enjoyable. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you learn how to pull, the taffy? I would love to learn how to do that! Criterion is on Lewis Street, in Eatontown, if you want to go and buy some! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: How about Former Home of the Worlds Best Salt Water Taffy...Criterion Chocolates (I worked there... tough dirty work but I loved every minute of it) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'll answer my own question. Going by its location, I believe the land should be for public use. Something that can be very useful to the community and city is a community center and banquet hall that can be used for community functions, rented out for private parties, etc. Its something that everyone (adults, children, families) can use. The park next door is surrounded by churches and homes. Something that can be used by the community would compliment the park and draw more people to the area. Thanks but no thanks. We don't need more traffic on Asbury Ave, soup kitchens, speeding cars, churches. We can't even get the community stuff we were promised on the boardwalk five years ago. Who is going to pay for it? Is MM or Partners ready to pony up the purchase price and give it to the community? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I guess I'll answer my own question. Going by its location, I believe the land should be for public use. Something that can be very useful to the community and city is a community center and banquet hall that can be used for community functions, rented out for private parties, etc. Its something that everyone (adults, children, families) can use. The park next door is surrounded by churches and homes. Something that can be used by the community would compliment the park and draw more people to the area. I'd also like to see the Delmonte site incorporated if the Met site is indeed used for community space (I kind of hope when they swing the wrecking ball at the Metropolitan, the backswing hits the Delmonte and levels it... I had the honor of having to do some construction work at the Delmonte a few summers ago, and I have some interesting stories about whats going on inside that place). But getting back to the Metropolitan site, the last thing it should be used for is condos or a hotel. And I dont think anyone is going to build a hotel there anyway, theres no parking and its not close enough to the beach to be as profitable as the other hotels. Its location on Asbury Ave makes it easily accessable for the entire city and its location across from the park and near the downtown and beach makes it a good place for community use. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks but no thanks. We don't need more traffic on Asbury Ave, soup kitchens, speeding cars, churches. We can't even get the community stuff we were promised on the boardwalk five years ago. Who is going to pay for it? Is MM or Partners ready to pony up the purchase price and give it to the community? Maybe I wasnt clear. Its not a soup kitchen, church, or privately owned business. Its owned by the city, rented out by the city, used by the city and its citizens. People will walk there, ride their bikes there, and yes drive there, but it will be used by mostly residents of the city so there isnt going to be much additional traffic from people not living in the area. I know, the cost of buying the lot and building it would be too much for the city to handle. Probably a very unlikely scenario for something like this to actually wind up happening. But what should go there and what will go there are probably going to wind up being two very different things. And when is traffic a problem on that section of Asbury Avenue? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
Actually, you'd be surprised at what a problem we have with traffic from Asbury Ave. virtually all the way to the beach, but mostly between Main and Grand. I've seen people flying down both Asbury Ave. and 1st Ave. doing about 50 mph many times, particularly on the weekends. This gets to be an even bigger issue on Saturdays when Trinity Church is doing their soup kitchen and there are more pedestrians in the neighborhood. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Thanks but no thanks. We don't need more traffic on Asbury Ave, soup kitchens, speeding cars, churches. We can't even get the community stuff we were promised on the boardwalk five years ago. Who is going to pay for it? Is MM or Partners ready to pony up the purchase price and give it to the community? Maybe I wasnt clear. Its not a soup kitchen, church, or privately owned business. Its owned by the city, rented out by the city, used by the city and its citizens. People will walk there, ride their bikes there, and yes drive there, but it will be used by mostly residents of the city so there isnt going to be much additional traffic from people not living in the area. I know, the cost of buying the lot and building it would be too much for the city to handle. Probably a very unlikely scenario for something like this to actually wind up happening. But what should go there and what will go there are probably going to wind up being two very different things. And when is traffic a problem on that section of Asbury Avenue? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you'd be surprised at what a problem we have with traffic from Asbury Ave. virtually all the way to the beach, but mostly between Main and Grand. I've seen people flying down both Asbury Ave. and 1st Ave. doing about 50 mph many times, particularly on the weekends. This gets to be an even bigger issue on Saturdays when Trinity Church is doing their soup kitchen and there are more pedestrians in the neighborhood. Speeding and traffic mean two different things to me, I misunderstood what the original post meant. In regards to the speeding, thats a shame that people speed down Asbury Avenue in a neighborhood like that with pedestrians, bike lanes, etc. Actually, more cars and more vehicular traffic could reduce the speeding problem because more cars mean more people doing the speed limit and tighter lanes, slowing down the speeders. I know when I drive on the parkway at night or in mid afternoon and there are barely any cars, I tend to go much much faster with that wide open road in front of me (though I probably shouldnt lol). That being said, nothing on the Met site is really going to be what causes more traffic. Its going to be the beach and boardwalk. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speeding and traffic mean two different things to me, I misunderstood what the original post meant. There is bumber to bumper traffic backing all the way up from Main on nights when there are events on the BW. That will get worse. We don;t need any more city owned stuff. We want ratables. An only residents? Do we get id cards now? Actually, more cars and more vehicular traffic could reduce the speeding problem because more cars mean more people doing the speed limit and tighter lanes, slowing down the speeders. You must subscribe to the Duany school. It is a residential block. Duh? Residences or related uses (hospitality. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is bumber to bumper traffic backing all the way up from Main on nights when there are events on the BW. That will get worse. Thats a badly configured intersection. The fire house easement on the roadway adds about 75 feet to that backup, more people can make lefts onto main from the west because of the distance the cars going towards the west gives them an extra 4 seconds to make that turn. Less cars go through each time. They need a new light there, or post signs directing people to drive out of town other ways. We don't need any more city owned stuff. We want ratables. What do you think a developer is going to propose for a block long plot of real estate? Single family homes? Would you rather have condos built out to the street like Wesley Grove? An only residents? Do we get id cards now? The majority of towns have some sort of rec center or community center for its residents, and it works. And we all have ID cards if there is doubt, its called a drivers license. It is a residential block. Duh? Residences or related uses (hospitality. Hotel and residential are different. Just because someone sleeps in a building doesnt mean its the same use. A hotel has a restaruant, a bar, a ballroom. And its not a residential block, nor has it ever been in any of our lifetimes... today it houses a church, a boarding house full of sex offenders, theives, and dead rats in the ceiling tiles; and an abandoned building serving as the biggest eyesore in the town. Its a residential area of town... not currently a residential block. The park is bounded by only about a dozen privately owned homes. And Asbury Avenue is a main road to the town. If traffic and cars are a concern to someone then that is a bad street for that person to live on, period. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And its not a residential block, nor has it ever been in any of our lifetimes Just exactly how long is your lifetime? Its a residential area of town... not currently a residential block. The park is bounded by only about a dozen privately owned homes. And Asbury Avenue is a main road to the town. Absent the WRA which overrides zoning, it would be zoned PO for professional office or residential not commercial uses. If traffic and cars are a concern to someone then that is a bad street for that person to live on, period. Listen architecure student working for Madison Marquette, plan your own block. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: And its not a residential block, nor has it ever been in any of our lifetimes Just exactly how long is your lifetime? Unless you are 90 years old, then that hotel and boarding house have been there all of your life. Hey, remember when the Titanic sunk? Or when the Casino burned the first time? And my age has not a God Damned thing to do with this, so lay off or go to hell. I tried to explain my case nicely and you start taking shots. Listen architecure student working for Madison Marquette, plan your own block. I'm not working for MM, and if I was I sure as hell wouldnt be here listening to you whine about what is and isnt getting built. SO STOP TAKING SHOTS AT ME! I came to this group because I love Asbury Park, love its history, its architecture, and I wanted to contribute to discussions about it because not many people I know personally have that much interest in it. So if you dont like what I'm saying, stop trying to make a fool of me. I dont understand where all your hatred of me is coming from. Learn to relax, its not the end of the world. For God's sake, I just threw an idea out to get people talking and then I gave my opinion about what I thought. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you are 90 years old, then that hotel and boarding house have been there all of your life. Hey, remember when the Titanic sunk? Or when the Casino burned the first time? Are there not houses across the streets? And my age has not a God Damned thing to do with this, so lay off or go to hell. I tried to explain my case nicely and you start taking shots. I think you said in our or your lifetime, so I think how old you are is relevant as a frame of reference. I'm not working for MM, and if I was I sure as hell wouldnt be here listening to you whine about what is and isnt getting built. I was not whining. I never did. If I spoke at anytime about what was or wasn't built it was stating a fact. SO STOP TAKING SHOTS AT ME! Chill buddy. So if you dont like what I'm saying, stop trying to make a fool of me. One can only make a fool of themself, not that I am suggesting you made a fool of yourself. I dont understand where all your hatred of me is coming from. What hatred? Learn to relax, its not the end of the world. Agreed. I AM NOT THE ONE WRITING IN CAPS! For God's sake, I just threw an idea out to get people talking and then I gave my opinion about what I thought. And you got other opinions back. It got a little touchy when you were suggesting what should be near some people's and not your homes, or what we experience and you don't or that we made a mistake, etc, etc, etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there not houses across the streets? Were talking about that particular block, the block which the hotel sits. There are no houses on that particular block. I think you said in our or your lifetime, so I think how old you are is relevant as a frame of reference. In all of our lifetimes... the hotel is a century old. Anyone here a century old? Its been there for all of every one of our lives, not just my twenty-some-odd years on this planet. Whether you are 70, 60, 50, 40, 30 20, 10, or just born yesterday, the buildings on that block have been there as long as you have been there. If I am correct, none of those buildings are houses. I'm not working for MM, and if I was I sure as hell wouldnt be here listening to you whine about what is and isnt getting built. I was not whining. I never did. If I spoke at anytime about what was or wasn't built it was stating a fact. Chill buddy. Hey, dont start getting personal and implying that me not being the same age as some of you makes me know less, or that I am out to get you, or that I work for the big bad developers. I dont take shit from people like that, so if you think I'm going to let comments like that go then youre mistaken. What hatred? By bringing up the fact that I am a student and using it in a way that makes me seem like my comments are useless. Learn to relax, its not the end of the world. Agreed. I AM NOT THE ONE WRITING IN CAPS! I mean the fact that this is an online forum, not a town council meeting. You dont have to lash out against my idea the way you did, and take my idea as a means to ruin your neighborhood. And you got other opinions back. It got a little touchy when you were suggesting what should be near some people's and not your homes, or what we experience and you don't or that we made a mistake, etc, etc, etc. I understand now that you live near the site and what is built there would affect your life every day (I'm still sort of new to this group, if I had known that you lived in the area of the hotel I would have understood your comments more the first time I read them). Listen man, I'm not a developer, builder, or anyone who is going to threaten your neighborhood, property value, or what you do on a daily basis. I dont work for anyone who is trying to take your home, so distance your assumptions that I am some developer working for the city. You know, its very easy to say that the best thing for the site would be a handful of single family homes. And maybe that is whats best, it probably is. Or maybe its something else. But think outside the norm for a second, think of every possibile solution, maybe something not so obvious is the best solution. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were talking about that particular block, the block which the hotel sits. There are no houses on that particular block. In all due respect, and I do mean that, if you only consider what is on the physical block and not across the street, etc., then I think you will fail as an architect. Does the word contextual come to mind? By bringing up the fact that I am a student and using it in a way that makes me seem like my comments are useless. I think you're being a student is a good thing. Listen man, I'm not a developer, builder, or anyone who is going to threaten your neighborhood, property value, or what you do on a daily basis. I dont work for anyone who is trying to take your home, so distance your assumptions that I am some developer working for the city. I have no assumptions. Do you work for Madison Marquette? A simple and honest yes or no will suffice. BTW, I happen to like MM. I just think it is good to know ehere everyone is coming from. You know, its very easy to say that the best thing for the site would be a handful of single family homes. I said hotel or BB or residential. They are going to build condos across the street, might as well have them here too. As long as they are nicely designed. There has to be a buffer/step down from the higher intense uses on the waterfront. The community has a beach, and a boardwalk. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all due respect, and I do mean that, if you only consider what is on the physical block and not across the street, etc., then I think you will fail as an architect. Does the word contextual come to mind? Dont worry I realize that. I'm not stupid. I mentioned in my intial post about the surrounding area. My point was that all the homes have been surrounding the block for 100 years, and the block has been the way it is for 100 years. It has been that way, with homes surrounding that block that has no homes, for a very very long time. Others here suggested offices, retail, a library, a school, a rec center... if you want to know the honest truth, I really belive it should be developed into single family homes. But it probably wont, and I was just trying to throw out a different idea to start a discussion (and I guess it worked). I have no assumptions. Do you work for Madison Marquette? A simple and honest yes or no will suffice. BTW, I happen to like MM. I just think it is good to know ehere everyone is coming from. No, I actually work full time for an architecture firm in north- central Jersey, a few miles outside of Newark (and sadly, none of our projects are based in Asbury Park). I like Madison Marquette as well and I would like to try to get a chance to work for them for a period of time in the future. Let me explain where I'm coming from so I'm not misunderstood from now on. I am enrolled at a university as an architecture student. The university has a co-op educational program, which inserts 6-month internships of paid experince with my studies. I'm currently on one of those now (and if I could for my next one a year from now I would like to try to get involved with Asbury Park in some way). Any yes, I'm in my early 20's... but don't doubt my knowledge of history. I may not know as much as some of the people in this group, but I've spent a long time researching Asbury Park's history, heard stories from family who used to frequent the town, and am following the development as close as I possibly can. I am a supporter of Asbury Park, the redevelopment (assuming it benefits the town and neighboring communities and not just developers, which is debatable right now), and its history. I said hotel or BB or residential. They are going to build condos across the street, might as well have them here too. As long as they are nicely designed. There has to be a buffer/step down from the higher intense uses on the waterfront. The community has a beach, and a boardwalk. I think hotel on this site would cause too much of a parking problem. Dont want a hotel on top of a 2 story garage in this area either. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figured this would be a good discussion for everyone. Curious to see what ideas everyone has for the future of the Metropolitan Hotel site. obviously the city has to revisit the development controls of the WRP for this site since it is limited to hotel use. I think a hotel/BB. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I think that Asbury lacks office space big time. A well designed office building could go a long way as far as feeding some of the restaurants and other business's on Cookman that flounder during the day. I also still think that a Trader Joes would be a great idea. At this point in time, I really can't see there being the need or market for more housing. Maybe if the real estate market was sound I'd be thinking that some form of housing would be great at that location, but predictions are showing at least another dismal and scary year ahead for the housing market. I think it's time to think way outside that box. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figured this would be a good discussion for everyone. Curious to see what ideas everyone has for the future of the Metropolitan Hotel site. Single-family homes, apartments, a new hotel, condos, a mix of some or all of those, or something else? Consider its location... close to the beach, close to downtown, adjacent to a park, across the street from new development, on one of the main gateways to the Asbury Park waterfront... what would you like to see built on its site? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I think that Asbury lacks office space big time. A well designed office building could go a long way as far as feeding some of the restaurants and other business's on Cookman that flounder during the day. I also still think that a Trader Joes would be a great idea. At this point in time, I really can't see there being the need or market for more housing. Maybe if the real estate market was sound I'd be thinking that some form of housing would be great at that location, but predictions are showing at least another dismal and scary year ahead for the housing market. I think it's time to think way outside that box. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figured this would be a good discussion for everyone. Curious to see what ideas everyone has for the future of the Metropolitan Hotel site. Single-family homes, apartments, a new hotel, condos, a mix of some or all of those, or something else? Consider its location... close to the beach, close to downtown, adjacent to a park, across the street from new development, on one of the main gateways to the Asbury Park waterfront... what would you like to see built on its site? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about a senior center? lol - Original Message From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:43:26 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel? Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about an Ian Schrager style hotel rather then the plethora of generic ones that are way too prevalent. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: Figured this would be a good discussion for everyone. Curious to see what ideas everyone has for the future of the Metropolitan Hotel site. obviously the city has to revisit the development controls of the WRP for this site since it is limited to hotel use. I think a hotel/BB. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about a senior center for dogs? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a senior center? lol - Original Message From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:43:26 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel? Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
Here's some great ideas: http://www.wlra.us/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about the Worlds Largest Museum of Worlds Largest Artifacts --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some great ideas: http://www.wlra.us/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about the Worlds Largest Museum of Worlds Largest Artifacts how about Worlds Largest Depository of Broken Promises What about the lights in the park/ Its dark now so go check them and get back to me. Reidy told me this morning that public works saw JCPL out there. We know they go there but they don't fix them. Keep on it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about Former Home of the Worlds Best Salt Water Taffy...Criterion Chocolates (I worked there... tough dirty work but I loved every minute of it) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
No lights yet Dan... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: How about the Worlds Largest Museum of Worlds Largest Artifacts how about Worlds Largest Depository of Broken Promises What about the lights in the park/ Its dark now so go check them and get back to me. Reidy told me this morning that public works saw JCPL out there. We know they go there but they don't fix them. Keep on it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
