Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wanted: Transporter
Take a look here: www.slimdevices.com -- Amauta Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33445 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
Phil Leigh;186468 Wrote: Hmmm - this noise would appear not to trouble the many Lavry fans so I wonder why not? Maybe it is effectively filtered out elsewhere? (I know prevention is better than cure but...) Sorry, I never meant to imply that the DA10 doesn't sound good. I've never heard one, and all the reports seem to suggest that it sounds marvelous. I may have misinterpreted your post, but got the impression that you felt one of the reasons the DA10 sounds good might be because it has a high quality switched mode power supply, and I was just pointing out that in the light of the findings in that DIYHiFi thread, this seems unlikely. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
Anybody has internal pics of the Benchmark? Given the small footprint and low profile chassis, I suspect it also has a switching power supply. -- crooner SB3 with Custom Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC-60 Tube DAC VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer. crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Equalisation not gapless?
Is there a way to go back to 6.5.0? I can't find it on their web site. I also find 6.5.2 generally a little unreliable - stops at the end of tracks, and occassionally stutters in tracks too. I had previously put it all down to my setup, not that anything signifciant had changed. -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
325xi;186512 Wrote: To summarise the overwhelming response - Toslink works according to specification, which no inherent production flaws, so there's no reason to avoid it, or even better, use coax only when Toslink isn't available. I didn't miss anything, right? Toslink works by shining an LED along a length of cable, which is then received by a phototransistor at the other end. The signal from this phototransistor is likely to be smaller and have less clearly defined on/off edges than the signal received at the end of a coax cable. Therefore, it is not unlikely that jitter at the input to the clock recovery circuit will be worse, and that in turn may mean that jitter at the DAC chip (where it matters) is also worse. Now the next step. Few mentioned here that quality of optical connector can cause problems. Any advise of how to discern a good quality optical cable from something with cheap flaky connectors? Is it a matter of particular brands, or whatever else? I presume I can't evaluate quality just by looking at the cable or its price tag, right? The connector in an optical cable doesn't really make any difference - it's just a mechanical thing designed to hold the fibre in place so that the light coming out of the end shines onto the phototransistor. I seriously doubt there's any performance difference at all between connectors - it's not like in an electronic system where the connector is actually a part of the signal path. The transparency of the cable itself and the quality of the cut ends might be important. Keeping it as short as possible will help. -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
I'm thinking about getting a Transporter to use with a Sonos ZP80. The plan is to use a Sonos hanheld controller and the ZP80 will output digital signal to the digital in on the Transporter. The Transporter is mainly going to be used as an external DAC (and potentially as a player for non-16bit music). Does this set up make sense? Would just using the Transporter both as the player and the DAC yield better sound than the Sonos/Transporter combination? The transporter is going to be feeding analog signal into an Anthem AVM50 pre-amp followed by an Anthem Statement A5 amplifier. Music files are in AIFF stored on an Infrant ReadyNAS, all connected via a home giga-Ethernet. I'd appreciate your input. Thanks. -- sting sting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply
clar2391;186565 Wrote: I'd like one that is relatively cheap and that's plug-and-play. Does such a thing exist? Try searching the forums. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33443 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
sting;186663 Wrote: I'm thinking about getting a Transporter to use with a Sonos ZP80. The plan is to use a Sonos hanheld controller and the ZP80 will output digital signal to the digital in on the Transporter. The Transporter is mainly going to be used as an external DAC (and potentially as a player for non-16bit music). If you prefer the Sonos remote, then to me it would make more sense to buy a ZP80 and a good external DAC, like the Lavry, Benchmark or any of the others recommended in these threads. Alternately, have a look at the Nokia 770/800 as a remote control for the Transporter. Whatever happened to the remoured fancy LogiTech remote for the SB that was hinted at just before the LogiTech takeover? Has it been shelved? -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
CardinalFang;186667 Wrote: If you prefer the Sonos remote, then to me it would make more sense to buy a ZP80 and a good external DAC, like the Lavry, Benchmark or any of the others recommended in these threads. Alternately, have a look at the Nokia 770/800 as a remote control for the Transporter. Whatever happened to the remoured fancy LogiTech remote for the SB that was hinted at just before the LogiTech takeover? Has it been shelved? Stereophile review on Transporter said that Transporter alone was better than SB3/DAC combination so I'm interested in the DAC inside the Transporter. I wonder if adding a Sonos ZP80 frond-end (hence one additional digital connection between the ZP80 and the Transporter) would compromise the sound quality somewhat? Are there flaws for such combination? I really like the multi-room feature of the Sonos. Thanks. -- sting sting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
sting;186669 Wrote: Stereophile review on Transporter said that Transporter alone was better than SB3/DAC combination so I'm interested in the DAC inside the Transporter. I wonder if adding a Sonos ZP80 frond-end (hence one additional digital connection between the ZP80 and the Transporter) would compromise the sound quality somewhat? Are there flaws for such combination (Sonos ZP80 plus Transporter)? I really like the multi-room feature of the Sonos. Thanks. The SB3/DAC combination has to send the digital signal from the SB3 to the DAC over S/PDIF, and therefore is subject to jitter potential inherent in S/PDIF. The Transporter alone does not use S/PDIF and its architecture should have less potential for jitter. If you go with the ZP80/Transporter, you would be be subject to the same S/PDIF jitter potential. You would not be getting the benefit of the Transporter's closely-coupled architecture, and you would pay more than you need to to get a comparable DAC. Now, whether you personally can hear the difference among any of these alternatives we do not know. Personally, if I were to spend $2k on a Transporter I would use it for transport and DAC. If I already had decided on a transport and I wanted a better DAC, I would find a DAC that I like for much less than $2k. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
sting;186669 Wrote: Are there flaws for such combination (Sonos ZP80 plus Transporter)? I really like the multi-room feature of the Sonos. I don't have a Transporter, but in my opinion you fit the target market of slim devices perfectly. You can have the multi-room capability, like Cardinal Fang mentioned, by using the Nokia internet tablet or similar as a remote anywhere in the house, or from the coffee shop for that matter. Rooms where sound quality isn't important get an Sb3 hooked to powered speakers or similar. It seems like you've pretty much decided on the Transporter, so if you go with the SonosSD approach, I would make sure the ZP isn't doing anything to the digital output like volume control or replay gain, before feeding it to a transporter. I would also compare the SPDIF out of my cd player to the SPDIF out of the ZP, both into the transporter to make sure there isn't an obvious audible difference. Something from Transporter's description that may or may not be worth keeping in mind: Jitter (standard deviation): * 11ps at oscillator (intrinsic jitter) * 17ps at DAC * 35ps at S/PDIF receiver It would be easier, and more ideal, to simply not have the ZP to worry about. You would gain the ability to plug the cd player into the Tp, rather than the ZP, and reduce the amount of jitter seen at the DAC. The whole idea seems to me a bit like using the Sb3 to feed a Transporter, but I understand your affinity for the sonos interface and remote. Good luck, I'm sure you'll enjoy whichever setup you choose. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33443 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
AndyC_772;186654 Wrote: The connector in an optical cable doesn't really make any difference - it's just a mechanical thing designed to hold the fibre in place so that the light coming out of the end shines onto the phototransistor. With all due respect.. The cheap one that came with my DAC wouldn't even stay connected to the input on squeezebox. The one I tried defined generic, so YMMV. Do some models have a lock or other method to secure them? -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
Hi all My main amp is a tact millenium . when i use the transporter as an transport into the emillennium the sound i get is very close to perfect . its no contest vs the ice amp wich is a moddified version of the asp1000 modul with a much larger power supply. But what i do like about the ice amp is its bass dynamics wich i thing is just a littel better then the mk3 and have thinking about a replacement of amp. But it better be pretty damm good to better the millennium mk3. Now the nuforce ref 9 se amps when i read about it it pretty much describes what i would like from a amplifire . Big bass dynamics grainfree treble layered soundstage that opens up bacwoards wich i thing is perfect for a smalle 16 sq meter room . My tact millennium tends to create the soundstage infront of the speakers wich is good but when you only sit 3 meter from the speakers it can make the soundstage to much in your face . So i kind of hope the ref se would be what i have been looking for . regards -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
The free one that came with my PlayStation 2 clicks very positively into place - I assumed that would represent about the cheapest component available. The ability of consumer electronics manufacturers to shave a penny or two off a product never ceases to amaze me. Let me revise my assertion: provided it actually holds the end of the fibre in place, the type of connector used on a Toslink cable should make absolutely no discernable difference to sound quality. -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
AndyC_772;186694 Wrote: The ability of consumer electronics manufacturers to shave a penny or two off a product never ceases to amaze me. Yeah it kind of makes one wonder what's been shaved inside the box. Thanks for the info, looks like I should try a different cheap one. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeeze Box and TacT
Does it happen when you transcode to WAV? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33190page=2 -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33341 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
pablolie;186611 Wrote: So don't even drive the car, just stick to brand dogma?? :-) Dude, may I say you drive me crazy? Do you really see only blacks and whites? I just say your so beloved empirical methods ARE necessary as a part of the whole, but not when used alone. A mere audition what taken out of context proves nothing. But add it to other ways to elaborate your system, and it may become quite useful information. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
AndyC_772;186654 Wrote: Therefore, it is not unlikely that jitter at the input to the clock recovery circuit will be worse, and that in turn may mean that jitter at the DAC chip (where it matters) is also worse. Oops, here we go again! So, Andy, what's your conclusion here - Toslink is more prone to jitter related problems then coax? AndyC_772;186654 Wrote: The connector in an optical cable doesn't really make any difference - it's just a mechanical thing designed to hold the fibre in place so that the light coming out of the end shines onto the phototransistor. I seriously doubt there's any performance difference at all between connectors - it's not like in an electronic system where the connector is actually a part of the signal path. The transparency of the cable itself and the quality of the cut ends might be important. Keeping it as short as possible will help. Do you think that flimsy connector can't cause cable cut end to be set up at slightly wrong angle against receiver, causing reflections, delays, etc? Oh, I mentioned quality of cut ends in one of my very first posts of this thread... One of cable makers confirmed they use plastic and not glass, therefore losses are higher, but they tested that with length under hundreds of meters it does keeps signal as per Toslink specs, so generic transparency shouldn't be a big deal for couple of meters cable. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
In my system the TP sounds much better as a self contained unit. When fed from a transport or a SB the sound was not as good. I tried this through a 600.00 coax cable and a glass fiber tosslink. This may be due to flaws in the spdif interface. If you want to use the Sonos you might be better off with a jitter rejecting dac like the Lavry10, the Benchmark or the PS audio link 3. Personally the best sound I get is the TP for the main system with SB's for ancillary rooms. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
325xi;186710 Wrote: Oops, here we go again! So, Andy, what's your conclusion here - Toslink is more prone to jitter related problems then coax? Forgive me for side-stepping the question, but I think it would be pointless to guess without making some quantitative measurements on the electrical output from a typical Toslink receiver module. That said, I have made a couple of observations which may be relevant: - if you look at the end of a Toslink cable, the light coming out of it is fairly omnidirectional; there is no particular angle at which it suddenly looks much brighter than others. Therefore, it's unlikely that a misalignment of a degree or so would make much difference. - an opto-isolator designed to pass data at a couple of Mbits typically has rather slow rising edges on its output, because of the passive pull-up used to bring the output to a logic '1' in the absence of light from the LED. This would inherently tend to increase jitter - and a Toslink connection is basically just an opto-isolator with a particularly wide separation between the two halves. I will be looking into this properly in the not-too-distant future, so I'll post my findings if anyone's really bothered. -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
AndyC_772;186717 Wrote: ... an opto-isolator designed to pass data at a couple of Mbits typically has rather slow rising edges on its output, because of the passive pull-up used to bring the output to a logic '1' in the absence of light from the LED. This would inherently tend to increase jitter - and a Toslink connection is basically just an opto-isolator with a particularly wide separation between the two halves. I will be looking into this properly in the not-too-distant future, so I'll post my findings if anyone's really bothered. Andy, I would be thrilled to know your findings. It's especially interesting because nearly all posters on the previous 10 pages declined the very possibility of Toslink connection to be more jittery then coax. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The perfect complement for Slim Devices
Apologies to those for whom this is old news, but clearly anyone with a Slim Device needs a FatMan (valve) amplifier: http://www.fat-man.co.uk/docs/product/itube_402_1.htm The next Logitech acquisition surely? :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost and Anti-cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33462 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
Having followed this thread, I am definitely more jittery than when I started. A purely subjective observation, YMMV. -- konut konut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC
dagordon;183721 Wrote: Just wanted to add a strong vote for the Citypulse DAC. I'm using a Citypulse with TCXO upgrade with a SB3, and the results are impressive. I was VERY skeptical upon first hearing it -- it sounded very digital, and not as resolving as the SB3's analog outs. But then I remembered all of these reports about break-in with the Citypulse DAC, some saying that it requires up to 300 hours to fully settle down. Now, I have no idea what the physical basis for this phenomenon is, but all I can say is that it's very real, at least with this particular piece of equipment. I've left the DAC on pretty much constantly since receiving it, and the difference is absolutely night and day. My system is pretty modest: SB3 w/ Bolder modified Elpac, Citypulse DAC, Creek OBH-12 passive preamp, Charlize amp, Klipsch RB-61 speakers. I'm running Blue Jeans cables (optical to the DAC) and a Monster PowerCenter HTS 2000 for power conditioning. It's shocking how good this sounds. I have received mine as well and I am experiencing exactly the same thing! First: absolutely rubbish, but after 100 hours there is significant improvement. Sound is opening and music is getting more involving, but not yet even near to my ex-cd-player, Arcam CD33. I hope that it will get better and better over the time. -Fkuti -- fkuti fkuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9713 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32336 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
tomjtx;186716 Wrote: In my system the TP sounds much better as a self contained unit. When fed from a transport or a SB the sound was not as good. I tried this through a 600.00 coax cable and a glass fiber tosslink. This may be due to flaws in the spdif interface. If you want to use the Sonos you might be better off with a jitter rejecting dac like the Lavry10, the Benchmark or the PS audio link 3. Personally the best sound I get is the TP for the main system with SB's for ancillary rooms. I take it that the Transporter is not considered a jitter rejecting DAC? Do you use one remote for multi-room control? Thanks. -- sting sting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
Whichever is subject to more jitter, unless you have an extremely revealing system, very good speakers, a room with good acoustics, and some very keen ears, it is likely to be negligible. If you possess all of the above, I'm envious, lol. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
sting;186749 Wrote: I take it that the Transporter is not considered a jitter rejecting DAC? Do you use one remote for multi-room control? Thanks. I don't know if it is jitter rejecting but it sound a lot better when using it wi fi. I use my macbook from all rooms but the Nokia would do just as well. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
jeffmeh;186751 Wrote: Whichever is subject to more jitter, unless you have an extremely revealing system, very good speakers, a room with good acoustics, and some very keen ears, it is likely to be negligible. If you possess all of the above, I'm envious, lol. The original question was purely technical, as stated in one of the much earlier posts, I'm interested to know jitter difference regardless of it's audible or not. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
325xi;186709 Wrote: Dude, may I say you drive me crazy? Do you really see only blacks and whites? I just say your so beloved empirical methods ARE necessary as a part of the whole, but not when used alone. A mere audition when taken out of context proves nothing. But add it to other ways to elaborate your system, and it may become quite useful information. First of all, I was clearly kidding. Second of all, you must confuse me with someone else when it comes to the so beloved empirical methods. I actually have a very pragmatic approach when it comes to audio equipment. I like to understand some of the theories behind it, but then again I am very open minded, and fully aware of the emotional element of psychoacoustics that go into it - then again, I'll put a $ cap on the emotional stuff, there's not a single multi-thousand $ esoteric element in my chain. I'll buy a cable that's a couple $100 mostly because it looks cool, makes me feel good, and the money doesn't hurt - but try to sell me a $2,000 cable and I'll be get outta here - I'd rather fly to Cabo for the week!. Then again, I think controlled listening tests are *very* important. I have a pretty decent ear for differences. It's simply important to know and stand to one's sound preferences, and acknowledge that better sounds for me may not be better sound for someone else. Often the resolution and detail is identical, but some aspects of it are presented a bit different. I'll stand to my prefrence every time, and if I am able to detect a difference every time (like between the SB3's internal DA and the SB3-Toslink-AccuphaseDA chain), it's what ultimately makes me decide on a certain configuration. I'll grant what a listening test like that doesn't prove is utter linearity and perfect transparency - we may *prefer* somewhat distorted sound that compensates for our individual hearing etc. Then again, the fact that something comes out perfectly accurately our of the system does not mean it'll make it equally accurate into my brain. Besides, I'd really find if funny if some of those talking about Toslink jitter due to distorted flanks then prove to have a tube amp in their system. But that's the fun part of audio. :-) 325xi;186709 Wrote: BTW, if we were talking about BMW, then my answer to your question is definite yes. That's fine, but you can't claim that's a purely pragmatic choice then. There is a very irrational and emotional element to a priori brand preference - and it's totally fine. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
jeffmeh;186751 Wrote: Whichever is subject to more jitter, unless you have an extremely revealing system, very good speakers, a room with good acoustics, and some very keen ears, it is likely to be negligible. If you possess all of the above, I'm envious, lol. Funnily enough, that's exactly what I thought about a year ago, when I confidently ditched my (early, and rather expensive) DVD player in favour of a cheap DVD recorder. I figured that all digitally connected sources should sound the same, and therefore, that I could play CDs using the DAC in my A/V receiver and they'd sound just as good as before. My old DVD player used a coax connection, the new one used Toslink. It took me about a week to realise that something was wrong. Music was boring, the soundstage rather flat and instruments hard to pick out individually - I just wasn't enjoying it any more. Sadly by this point my old DVD player had vanished at the hands of Ebay. So, I bought another one - a newer model well reviewed for its audio quality - and plugged it in with a coax connection. It sounds great, normal service is resumed. This isn't a controlled experiment, of course, but it does prove (to me, at least) that all digital sources are not equal. The same DAC and amp combination really can sound different when fed with a different source. Ironically it's the cheap recorder that's most tolerant of discs in poor condition, so I don't believe for a minute that bit errors are creeping in to cloud the issue. -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
pablolie;186759 Wrote: First of all, I was clearly kidding. Please accept my sincere apologies then. :) pablolie;186759 Wrote: Second of all, you must confuse me with someone else when it comes to the so beloved empirical methods. I actually have a very pragmatic approach when it comes to audio equipment. I like to understand some of the theories behind it, but then again I am very open minded, and fully aware of the emotional element of psychoacoustics that go into it - then again, I'll put a $ cap on the emotional stuff, there's not a single multi-thousand $ esoteric element in my chain. I'll buy a cable that's a couple $100 mostly because it looks cool, makes me feel good, and the money doesn't hurt - but try to sell me a $2,000 cable and I'll be get outta here - I'd rather fly to Cabo for the week!. Then again, I think controlled listening tests are *very* important. I have a pretty decent ear for differences. It's simply important to know and stand to one's sound preferences, and acknowledge that better sounds for me may not be better sound for someone else. Often the resolution and detail is identical, but some aspects of it are presented a bit different. I'll stand to my prefrence every time, and if I am able to detect a difference every time (like between the SB3's internal DA and the SB3-Toslink-AccuphaseDA chain), it's what ultimately makes me decide on a certain configuration. I'll grant what a listening test like that doesn't prove is utter linearity and perfect transparency - we may *prefer* somewhat distorted sound that compensates for our individual hearing etc. Then again, the fact that something comes out perfectly accurately our of the system does not mean it'll make it equally accurate into my brain. I see again that we basically have very similar views... I know I tend to react too harsh when I ask purely technical question, in attempt to have a purely technical answer, but the replies are try to listen. pablolie;186759 Wrote: Besides, I'd really find if funny if some of those talking about Toslink jitter due to distorted flanks then prove to have a tube amp in their system. But that's the fun part of audio. :-) You didn't mean me here, right? 8-0 The last tubed thing I had in my life was black-white TV 30 years back... -- 325xi simaudio nova cdp simaudio moon i-5 revel performa m20 via acoustic zen matrix reference ii and acoustic zen satori -planned additions:... deq2496 lavry da-10 ...- 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
AndyC_772;186765 Wrote: Funnily enough, that's exactly what I thought about a year ago, when I confidently ditched my (early, and rather expensive) DVD player in favour of a cheap DVD recorder. I figured that all digitally connected sources should sound the same, and therefore, that I could play CDs using the DAC in my A/V receiver and they'd sound just as good as before. My old DVD player used a coax connection, the new one used Toslink. It took me about a week to realise that something was wrong. Music was boring, the soundstage rather flat and instruments hard to pick out individually - I just wasn't enjoying it any more. Sadly by this point my old DVD player had vanished at the hands of Ebay. So, I bought another one - a newer model well reviewed for its audio quality - and plugged it in with a coax connection. It sounds great, normal service is resumed. This isn't a controlled experiment, of course, but it does prove (to me, at least) that all digital sources are not equal. The same DAC and amp combination really can sound different when fed with a different source. Ironically it's the cheap recorder that's most tolerant of discs in poor condition, so I don't believe for a minute that bit errors are creeping in to cloud the issue. Actually, I was not referring to the differences between different sources, but between the same source connected via coax vs. toslink. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
Thank you all for your help. I have just placed an order for a Transporter and will pick it up at Slim Devices this afternoon. I plan to first check out the Transporter before worrying about which remote to use, although I really like the Sonos. In your opinion, what's the best analog port and cable to use for connecting the Transporter and the Anthem AVM50 pre-amp? Thanks. -- sting sting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Field recording
I have one of these http://www.tascam.com/Products/hdp2.html and LOVE IT. It is PRO quality (better than audiophile, IMHO) as it will record up to 192kHz/24-bit on CompactFlash. Built-in phantom power for condenser mics, mic soft-limiting, external wordclock and video sync capabilities as well as timecode chase. I'm sure it's overkill for most users on this forum, but I bought it for those features... I am in the audio/video post biz, however. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33377 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?
I just got back from a long vacation to Kona, Hawaii. I'll try to spend some time doing this and let you know. Even if there is 'some' degradation taking the analog out of my Pioneer Elite DV-47A player, I'm starting with a 24-bit source and keeping it 24-bit through high-quality DA/AD conversion. Also, since I'm looking at the 5.1 info, there's no alternative on the 16-bit CD layer. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32976 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?
I'd like to change the title of the main Slimserver home page from SlimServer to something else. Anyone know how I can do thi?. I thought is would be as simple as changeing the metatag for index.html but it's not. Yeah, I know... I've asked this before and received the answer... but I can't find the answer now and any search on these forums that includes the word Slimserver just returns a blank page. Slimserver 6.5.2 on Windows XP Pro, default skin, if it makes a difference. Thanks for any help MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33468 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
sting;186779 Wrote: Thank you all for your help. I have just placed an order for a Transporter and will pick it up at Slim Devices this afternoon. I plan to first check out the Transporter before worrying about which remote to use, although I really like the Sonos. In your opinion, what's the best analog port and cable to use for connecting the Transporter and the Anthem AVM50 pre-amp? Thanks. If your pre amp is balanced, I find the balanced (xlr) outs to sound better in my system -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
gobikey;186742 Wrote: I have a Paradisea with the SB3, Krell amp, Vienna Acoustics Speakers. I'm not going to exaggerate. With A-B testing between the SB3 DAC and the Paradisea, the average listener would not notice the difference. To me, the biggest difference is with the lower frequencies which sound stronger and more clear with the Paradisea. The highs are slightly less harsh as well. I also have a Transporter. The difference from the Paradisea to Transporter is greater than between the SB3 and Paradisea. The level of clarity is the most noticeable change with bass precision second. I can more easily hear the distinct instruments and voices from the TP rather than the relative composite sound of the the SB3 or Paradisea. The next biggest upgrade in sound I have heard on my system is with 96k and 24bit files. ; )) Interesting reply, i know it can be difference in taste that do opinions varying. I do like bass and musicality before extreme detail. Mabye MhdtLab DAC is too much, i have seen some other DAC with tubes, Lite DAC 60, Lite DAC 68 and Xindak DAC 5 from east and priced good. There are also a number of DAC to buy in homemarket, for example Benchmark DAC 1 but from what i heard from people that usually share my taste does that DAC have too much brightness in sound. -- mangew mangew's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
tomjtx;186797 Wrote: If your pre amp is balanced, I find the balanced (xlr) outs to sound better in my system Do you have recommendation for the brands of the XLR cable? I presume that high quality cables are critical in the analog world. Yes, my pre-amp is balanced. Thanks. -- sting sting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?
ModelCitizen;186789 Wrote: I'd like to change the title of the main Slimserver home page from SlimServer to something else. Anyone know how I can do thi?. I thought is would be as simple as changeing the metatag for index.html but it's not. Yeah, I know... I've asked this before and received the answer... but I can't find the answer now and any search on these forums that includes the word Slimserver just returns a blank page. Slimserver 6.5.2 on Windows XP Pro, default skin, if it makes a difference. Create a file called 'custom-strings.txt' in the same folder as 'strings.txt' and enter any string changes that you like. You only need to include those you want to change and only for the language that you use. The one you need to change for the web page titles is SLIMSERVER. Code: SLIMSERVER EN Beetlejuice WELCOME_TO_SLIMSERVER EN SlimServer SONGS EN Tracks SONG EN Track LCSONGS EN tracks HOME_SCAN_WARNING EN SlimServer is scanning your music library. Chill out. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33468 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
dlite;186583 Wrote: Personally I think just about any tube adds distortion to the signal not musicality. Good music should not need to be smeared by a tube to sound good. Just my opinion. And what makes you think that 'smearing' (lack of resolution?) originates with the cathode follower tube stage? Those who've swaped the extant OPA2604 opamp for an OPA2107 in their Paradisea report a substantial increase in percieved resolution and extention, along with a reduction of 'grit'. I'm not arguing that this change would result in an objectively measureable change, simply a percieved one. But then again, my enjoyment of music is derived from my perceptions. -- occam occam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?
Well I hacked around awhile and came up w/ something different than Jim. In C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\HTML\EN\standardheader.html I changed: title [% IF pagetitle %][% pagetitle -%][% ELSE %][% Slimserver | string %][% END -%] /title TO: title New and Improved Title /title Should be faster as well :-) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33468 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
325, Would using something like the Benchmark Dac1 with a USB input get around your concerns? You are correct, the mac mini is nothing more than a lapop system crammed into a desktop box and i'm not up on its insides either. I'm going to do some experimenting but may try to look more into the a DAC with a USB input. Thanks for the reply -- khedspeth Kevin Hedspeth SB3 (Bolder Modded ELPAC) Bel Canto e.One S300i BW 705 Grado RA1, Grado SR225 khedspeth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sonos with Transporter
sting;186800 Wrote: Do you have recommendation for the brands of the XLR cable? I presume that high quality cables are critical in the analog world. Yes, my pre-amp is balanced. Thanks. Because it's balanced, it will matter even less than it matters for unbalanced. I would goto guitar center or a similar place and get some decent pro audio balanced cables. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33454 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
khedspeth;186815 Wrote: 325, Would using something like the Benchmark Dac1 with a USB input get around your concerns? You are correct, the mac mini is nothing more than a lapop system crammed into a desktop box and i'm not up on its insides either. I'm going to do some experimenting but may try to look more into the a DAC with a USB input. Thanks for the reply Avoid USB for audio by all means! All existing USB audio feeds implement isochronous protocol (some customized solutions don't, but we're not talking DIY here). Isochronously linked you most likely end up with much higher jitter then what you get from Squeezebox. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slimserver web gui home page title - change?
Cheers both, but loved this: SlimServer is scanning your music library. Chill out. :-) MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33468 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
jeffmeh;186773 Wrote: Actually, I was not referring to the differences between different sources, but between the same source connected via coax vs. toslink. Two different connection methods are comparable to two different sources. If one of the cases can sound different, so can the other. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you tell the difference between mp3 and wav?
More testing and I still can't tell which I prefer. However, I just played with Audacity to subtract an encoded/decoded MP3 waveform from the original WAV, so what's left should be the differences. I have two 30-second FLAC examples of the same piece, one the difference between 320Kbps CBR and WAV and one of VBR and WAV: http://.ca/files/difference-320-short.flac http://.ca/files/difference-vbr-short.flac Just to be sure, I did the same experiment with decoded FLAC, and there is no difference... so FLAC really is lossless. :-) -- joatca SB3, NAD 3020, Mission 762i's joatca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32576 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you tell the difference between mp3 and wav?
joatca;186844 Wrote: More testing and I still can't tell which I prefer. However, I just played with Audacity to subtract an encoded/decoded MP3 waveform from the original WAV, so what's left should be the differences. I have two 30-second FLAC examples of the same piece, one the difference between 320Kbps CBR and WAV and one of VBR and WAV: http://.ca/files/difference-320-short.flac http://.ca/files/difference-vbr-short.flac Just to be sure, I did the same experiment with decoded FLAC, and there is no difference... so FLAC really is lossless. :-) Pretty neat. May I ask the artist and track you used to peform the experiment? -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32576 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
P Floding;186832 Wrote: Two different connection methods are comparable to two different sources. If one of the cases can sound different, so can the other. Of course they can, but I will stand by my point. It is negligible without a highly revealing combination of system, room, speakers, and ears. It is probably negligible in most cases even where such a combination exists. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Here's my beloved system. I shall not claim it's audiophile, but it sounds and looks mighty fine to me considering the room and what I could reasonably afford: BW Matrix 802 mains center, BW CDM 1NT Surrounds all on Sound Anchor stands, Velodyne SPL-1000R Powered subwoofer, Carver TFM 35, Dennon AV Receiver, Sony DVP-NS999ES, Mitshubishi 65 DLP display on Salamander SYNERGY Triple stand, Pro-Ject Turntable Xpression Mk II fitted with Denon DL-160 Cartridge sitting on custom marble slab/spiked stand, Dish whatever DVR, low-end Nakamichi tape deck, Liteon VHS/DVD-RW mod for all format/all region play; mostly Blue Jeans cabling, Monster power supply. -and- squeezebox via digital coax to AV receiver. The SB sits seperate from the main system tucked in to recessed bookshelf. All the speakers as well as the Carver amp were obtained via eBay. Most of the time, I listen to the SB mostly playing FLACs ripped from my CD collection. +---+ |Filename: System 3.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2518| +---+ -- buddhabreath buddhabreath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5743 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
jeffmeh;186851 Wrote: Of course they can, but I will stand by my point. It is negligible without a highly revealing combination of system, room, speakers, and ears. It is probably negligible in most cases even where such a combination exists. Not sure it has to be a very accurate system - it simply has to happen to be a chain that happens to produce a more individually tailored and appealing sound based on the particular change in the chain. Negligible is not a rational term - at least not to anyone that follows a forum under the term audiophile! A negligible difference to most is the *huge* difference to the audiophile!! At least that is the way I see it. I love the fact other people love the passion - I love to disagree with them because they do. :-) -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Here's a shot of my rig now that I've added the Transporter. A 20 Intel iMac dual 2 GHz with 2 Gb memory. External Western Digital My Book Pro (500 Gb) with my library in lossless. The new Airport Extreme feeding the iMac and the Transporter through the ether using Cable modem. All in the next room over or upstairs. Analog outs on the Transporter feed my integrated amp (The very nice VAC Avatar Super) I still use my TRL (Tube Research Labs) modified Sony 2000ES for some music since it does pull out a few more details when compared to the stock Transporter. Most of the tunes are done on the Transporter now. Except. Except vinyl. Vinyl still rules and mine goes from the black circle to an Ortofon MC25FL cart, using a Rega Planar 3 then into a VAC step up before going into the all-triode tube section of the VAC. The tunes come in via ZCable Live v3 and Kimber Hero while the tunes come out the back via Audience AU24s to the first generation of the Silverline Sonatinas. I also run these full range but send the signal over to a Rava sub which really fills out the bottom nicely. Power comes in via dedicated 20 amp circuit and an Elrod EPS3 sig goes into a Sound Applications Reference Line Stage to clean up and protect. The stands are Apollo Aria. This system achieves significant transparency to go with a dynamic sound. Very natural. +---+ |Filename: System.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2519| +---+ -- barty barty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeeze Box and TacT
I've tried every permutation. Makes no difference. Mark Lanctot;186704 Wrote: Does it happen when you transcode to WAV? See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33190page=2 -- ColSanders ColSanders's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33341 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
