Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila;424009 Wrote: but I have not yet seen an integrated amp with anything but unbalanced inputs? Electrocompagniet, Primare, Krell, Mark Levinson, Cerwin-Vega, NAD, Cambridge, Lyngdorf all offer integrated with XLR inputs... they're not difficult to find ;) Especially since XLR seems to be the new black in hi-fi. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Obviously I had not looked very hard! Was mainly looking at what hifi charts and seeing if it mentioned balanced, and only power amps had a dedicated entry so I came to an assumption. Any recommendations? What might be the top five to look at off the top of your head. -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply DAC for my SB3 - recommendations?
Here's a really cheap DAC that I think sounds pretty good. I got mine for US $130 new, but the price has gone up to $199 now. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHSRC2496 It has a DAC, and ADC, and a sample rate converter. I'm using mine to up the sample rate from the Squeezebox to 24/96 before going through the DAC (seems to make the sound a bit smoother for some reason.) Actually, I'm using the DAC in a DEQ2496, but it's the same DAC). The headphone output is not that great, your dedicated headphone amp is far better. The SRC2496 has balanced XLR outputs, but I use inexpensive XLR/RCA adapters (available at any pro audio shop) to connect to my preamp. -- kh6idf kh6idf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63349 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila;424065 Wrote: Any recommendations? What might be the top five to look at off the top of your head. Its impossible to say, especially since you provide no contextual information. All brands I listed (except the CW and maybe even the Lyngdorf) are good and highly regarded. Also the list is by no means exhaustive; there are lots of very good brands to choose from. I suggest you do some preliminary research by yourself based on personal preferences, the rest of you system, budget, availability, which/whether you can get to hear and see them in person etc. Then seek further advice. I've had the Primare I30 running of TP through xlr. Its very good in some sense I guess (I was dazzled in the beginning), but really not my cup of tea. I chose to go back to my old setup using an old Audiolab (rca only). But then again, cf. pfarrel, all my signal cables run at most 1 metre. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply DAC for my SB3 - recommendations?
Phil Leigh;423734 Wrote: Approx 1.5m is the magic minimum length to minimise the effects of signal reflections along the cable that can POTENTIALLY make clock recovery and/or jitter worse on a spdif coa line. The length is related to the frequecny of the signals involved. 1m is not close enough for this. There's a very readable article about tbis somewhere on the net - I'll try and find it again... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63349 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in TAS
ralphpnj;423908 Wrote: Ouch, Darren you're being awfully sensitive there. But that is kind of my point in that Stone goes on and on about this, at least to me, very minor point. In fact it's as if he's looking for something bad to say about the Transporter and can only come up with the volume control issue. I do think that music streaming devices, be they made by LogiTech or by some other company, are giving the high end audio world fits since these devices all seem to punch way above their weight. Even the lowly SB3, when coupled with a decent outboard DAC, is capable of outperforming many mega-buck CD transports. I have the highly regarded McCormark UDP-1 in my main system along with a Transporter and the Transporter is very much the equal of the UDP-1. In fact, if it wasn't for the UDP-1's ability to play DVD-Audio and SACD discs I would have sold it awhile ago and freed up some valuable shelf space. Plus the Transporter has balanced analog outputs, something one rarely finds in CD players and DACs in the Transporter's price range. At this point in time it appears that the high end audio community is going to take the same approach that music industry is taking with regards to music streaming, music servers and other forms of non-silver disc based playback - give it passing mention but otherwise, for all intents and purposes, place their heads firmly in the sand and hope that these things just go away. Not being sensitive at all. Insensitive maybe. :) I think we're in agreement in general about the culture of throwing money at a problem. I've heard better systems than mine but I know changing my source - or adding a DAC - is NOT going to get me there! Technically speaking, the latest inexpensive digital sources actually perform just as well (and in some cases better) than some VERY expensive older digital sources and that's a fact. Coming from an IT background I find the idea that stuff gets better AND cheaper just fine! For others it seems counter-intuitive. So, as I read it, we agree in principle. But differ in our particular standards of quality. :) You seem to be happy with the Transporter and I'm happy with an SB3. I WOULD consider buying a better source or outboard DAC but it's a lower priority aspect for me. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. (Inguz bass EQ'd) SB3 - (pre bypassed) Krell KAV-300i - PMC AB-1 (caps bass EQ'd) Laptop - Genius Slab SW-flat2.1 700 SB3 / Rio Karma / Laptop - JVC UX-C30 / Sennheiser PX-100 darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63161 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in TAS
darrenyeats;424105 Wrote: So, as I read it, we agree in principle. But differ in our particular standards of quality. :) You seem to happy with the Transporter and I'm happy with an SB3. I WOULD consider buying a better source but it's a lower priority aspect for me. Darren Darren, We do not necessarily differ with regards to standards of quality. Let me explain: First a bit of my purchasing history is in order. When I bought my Transporter I did not own any other Slim Devices products not did I own an external DAC, so the Transporter seemed like a nice simple, albeit somewhat expensive, way to get into the world of music streaming WHILE maintaining high end sound. If I had owned an external DAC I most likely would have gone with a SB3 and in fact, I now have two SB3s and one SBR - all of which are connected to some type of external DAC (two go to headphone amps with built in DACs and the other goes to a Marantz A/V receiver with a built in DAC. In your case you can always add an external DAC to your SB3 at any time and right now external DACs seem to be a very hot item with many manufacturers introducing cheaper and better sounding DACs. So much so that it won't be long before a SB3/DAC combo (with balanced analog outputs) costing half of what a Transporter costs will sound as good, if not better than, the Transporter. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63161 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
The only system I have listened to is Arcam CD player and integrated amp. To be honest I am no qualified audiophile, I can distinguish tinny music with lack of depth from a higher quality set.. but that is about my range. Budget would be under $2k for the amp, and I imagine system would play quite a lot of classical and some vocal tracks.. was considering BW CM7 speakers as well, this would be the full system. -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila;424065 Wrote: Was mainly looking at what hifi charts and seeing if it mentioned balanced, and only power amps had a dedicated entry so I came to an assumption. I get the impression that you're aiming for a minimalist system and the Transporter will be the only source component. If that's the case, then you should consider just getting a power amp with balanced inputs. You can connect the TP directly to a power amp provided you use appropriate passive attenuation to optimise the gain staging. Then use the TP's volume control for day-to-day level adjustments. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
cliveb wrote: I get the impression that you're aiming for a minimalist system and the Transporter will be the only source component. If that's the case, then you should consider just getting a power amp with balanced inputs. More minimal would be TP direct to powered speakers. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Interesting, I assumed I would need an integrated amp as a power amp would also need a pre amp to be a complete unit as it were. I am looking at a minimal, but also high quality solution. I was not aware the Transporter could output directly to speakers, but would probably want the option of adding a component if needed later on. Would Transporter Power amp Speakers be best option for quality then? -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila wrote: Interesting, I assumed I would need an integrated amp as a power amp would also need a pre amp to be a complete unit as it were. I am looking at a minimal, but also high quality solution. I was not aware the Transporter could output directly to speakers, but would probably want the option of adding a component if needed later on. Would Transporter Power amp Speakers be best option for quality then? You are a bit confused. You don't need an integrated amp, you could use just a power amp, they are cheaper as they skip the pre-amp parts. Source - poweramp - speakers is exactly the same as Source - powered speakers except that the powered speakers have built in amp that is designed to match the speaker's needs. There is no best quality solution. Its all a matter of personal taste. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
I have just decided to go for a PS Audio DLIII to use it with my Squeezebox III. Could you recommend me a good digital cable to connect them. MY budget is for the cable is 150 USD max. It can be new or used. (used prefered). Thank you in advance for any advice. -- gng gng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
gng wrote: I have just decided to go for a PS Audio DLIII to use it with my Squeezebox III. Could you recommend me a good digital cable to connect them. MY budget is for the cable is 150 USD max. It can be new or used. (used prefered). How about a nice new $5 75 ohm coax tv cable? -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Well the speakers I'm looking at would not be powered afaik, (The CM7 perhaps) and yes I do not even really know what a pre amp is for really... -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply DAC for my SB3 - recommendations?
Peter314;424093 Wrote: http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm Thanks Peter - that was the one! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63349 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
gng;424129 Wrote: I have just decided to go for a PS Audio DLIII to use it with my Squeezebox III. Could you recommend me a good digital cable to connect them. MY budget is for the cable is 150 USD max. It can be new or used. (used prefered). Thank you in advance for any advice. Blue Jeans 1.5m cable (Belden 1694A Brilliance) - 20 USD. The length is important. This cable is as good as it ever needs to get - if you don't believe me, then just try it... With the remaining $130, you can buy some really nice wine or whatever... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Ok had a quick look around based on some of the names mentioned, and the Primare A30.2 scores highly on whathifi.com (if there are any other good review sites please share!) It also might be worth trying to narrow down a shortlist of products and going to a dealer that might stock a few, some of those names are quite rare. -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila;424121 Wrote: Interesting, I assumed I would need an integrated amp as a power amp would also need a pre amp to be a complete unit as it were. I am looking at a minimal, but also high quality solution. I was not aware the Transporter could output directly to speakers, but would probably want the option of adding a component if needed later on. Would Transporter Power amp Speakers be best option for quality then? Pat has already explained the bit about power amps and powered speakers. I'll address the statement that you might want to add other components later. Presumably you're talking about things like DVD player, PVR, etc. If these other components will have digital outputs, then you can use the Transporter as a digital preamp, and you can still get away with just a power amp + speakers, or powered speakers. If on the other hand you're referring to analogue sources (eg. FM tuner, LP turntable, etc), then you probably would be better off getting an integrated amp with multiple analogue inputs. In another posting you say that you're not sure what a preamp actually does. Well, it allows you to switch between multiple sources (it has lots of inputs) - this is probably the most important facility that many preamp users need. Preamps also often include processing circuitry such as tone controls, but quite a lot of people never make use of those. A preamp is likely to have a little bit of amplification capability - enough to bring quiet sources like cassette decks and FM tuners up to the level required to drive a power amp. In the special case of LP turntables, you also need a circuit called a phono preamp - some ordinary preamps include such a device on one of their inputs. Modern digital sources like CD players, Squeezeboxes, etc. already have a high enough output that this amplification is largely irrelevant - indeed most preamps spend most of their time *decreasing* the level of the signal that passes through. An integrated amp is simply a preamp and a power amp in one box. So if you only need a power amp, you can (a) save money by not paying for the preamp that comes in an integrated, and (b) avoid passing the signal through a preamp's circuitry (which, unless it's a horribly expensive state-of-the-art device, *will* degrade the sound quality to a certain extent). -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
All the video equipment will be in another room, thankfully that lot all goes into one simple receiver ;) I think I understand better now, I was not even aware of powered speakers.. but I would imagine using a power amp to speakers would be a preferred solution. And I suppose I could even have more than one source and only a power amp if it has more than one set of balanced inputs, as some seem to. Presumably spending £1200 on a poweramp or £1200 on an integrated amp would probably mean the £1200 poweramp is of a higher standard (or is intended to be anyway). -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
You are probably using powered speakers with your computer. ATC, PMC, BO, Dynaudio, Audiostatic, Martin Logan etc all make powered speakers. What is overlooked many times is the quality of the preamp, its much more important than the poweramp, but since preamp dont have watts nobody talks about how big is yours?, so all the conversation is about poweramps. You can get a seriously good powered speaker for 2400 pounds, and you will be flappergasted of the quality. -- Anne Squeezebox 3 Stereovox XV2 Bryston B100-DA SST Martin Logan Aeon I Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila wrote: what a pre amp is for really... In the olden days, a Preamp was mostly a before amp that raised the phonograph input level up to the same as other sources (tape, tuner, etc.). It literally amplified the turntable input. Then and now, the secondary functions of a preamp are: 1) input selection (picking between tuner, tape, TV, DVD, aux, etc.) 2) volume control 3) tone controls These days, a lot of preamps don't even have the phono input or real pre-amp. My Classe integrated does not have phonograph input, and I never use the switching section. So I use it as a simple power amp. Most modern sources don't really need the amp part of a preamp. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Fatila wrote: I think I understand better now, I was not even aware of powered speakers.. but I would imagine using a power amp to speakers would be a preferred solution. Not really, altho people who sell amps and interconnects and speaker wires will not complain. Meridian has been selling high end powered speakers for at least a decade. There are not a huge selection of audiophile quality powered speakers, but there are some, and more each year. With a powered speaker, its trivial for the manufacturer to design it to be bi-amp or tri-amp setup, and to use line level crossovers rather than speaker level crossovers. And by including the amp, the manufacturer can make sure that the amp is providing exactly what the speaker drivers need. There are zillions of powered speakers aimed at the professional audio (recording studio) world, at prices from $400 a pair on up into $20K or more. Some folks like the flexibility of having separate amp, speaker wire, speaker setup, and if you change gear a lot, it makes sense. But I've had my main stereo since the late 1990s, so that flexibility adds nothing to my actual listening. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
Phil Leigh;424138 Wrote: Blue Jeans 1.5m cable (Belden 1694A Brilliance) - 20 USD. The length is important. Hi, What do you mean by important? Is there an optimal lenght? Or the shortest / the longest the better? Thanks -- gng gng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
gng;424160 Wrote: Hi, What do you mean by important? Is there an optimal lenght? Or the shortest / the longest the better? Thanks http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
There is no need to spend anywhere near $150 for an interconnect. I second the Blue Jeans recommendation. I am using their 1m interconnect, but will probably change that for a longer one based on the length issue I recently learned about thanks to Phil above and something similar I read in Stereophile's review last month of the Bel Canto 24/96 DAC. Thanks for the article link, Phil. BTW, I have the DLIII and am really happy with it. If you haven't bought it yet, check around for prices. You should be able to find it for about $695 instead of the original $995. -- audio53 Regards, Bob FLAC-SB3 w/SqueezeCenter-PS Audio DLIII DAC-Yamaha RX-595-Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble audio53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
Thank for the posts guys! -- gng gng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coaxial Digital btw Squeezebox -- PS Audio DLIII
If you can, demo a few, just incase you hear a difference between the different cables and prefer one to another. I found a Chord Signature Digi Coax rather nice... my ears and my kit ;) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
Thank you for all the information. Most of the active speakers I have seen thus far are way beyond my £3-3.5k budget for this system. Although that may indeed be the optimal listening solution, it seems the only way to connect the Transporter with reasonable cost, is a single power amp to speakers. -- Fatila Fatila's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best way to connect to integrated amp
I'm not using a Transporter, just an SB3 - but I am very happy with my rig. Bel Canto S300 power amp (which has balanced and XLR inputs) into BW 703's. I, like you, just wanted a very minimal set up for stereo audio listening. With no pre-amp you need to be a little careful that your source doesn't overload the power amp. Luckily, the transporter has internal jumpers that you can use to attenuate the signal. The wiki has a really helpful post to guide you through building a system with just a power amp and speakers http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Connect_To_PowerAmp -- sebage http://www.last.fm/user/sebage/ Main system; SB3 - Bel Canto S300 - BW 703 In the study; SBG - Beresford TC-7510 - T-Amp - BW DM600 Sony Sub For the hard to reach places; SBB sebage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63433 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New System, Transporter Final Piece?
Yup, the transporter is great. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63465 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New System, Transporter Final Piece?
I have just purchased what I consider to be my first audiophile system. I have had the bug for years (since college and don't ask me how long ago that was). The components I purchased are: BW 804S McIntosh MC205 Rotel 1570 I did get a matching center channel and rear speakers for home theater use, but this is what I will be using for 2 channel listening. The current weak link in the system is a good source unit as I only have a bluray player. I have meticulously ripped all my CD's to FLAC using EAC/Lame. Do you think the Transporter is the best match for my system? I have an SB3 currently and love the ease of use for accessing my music. I know it's a very general question, but what are my alternatives related to price point and value? Thanks -- parkmad parkmad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63465 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?
In the days of steam, I used to be a designer of electronic test equipment. In those days, all test sets we built were 'burnt in' for a couple of days at elevated temperatures prior to shipping. From what I recall, this was not aimed to improve specification, but to speed up the onset of infant mortality (components would fail) soon in their life or last for ever. The sets which failed had the dud components replaced and burnt in again. There is however an argument that the compliance of suspension components (cone surround and voicecoil support) in moving coil loudspeakers changes early in their life following initial use - with beneficial effects on the quality of the sound. I think that the two processes mentioned above may have become confused in the press. Now magically you have to 'burn in' your cd player. -- Andy8421 Andy8421's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63394 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?
Thanks for the replies, all. After a weekend that involved a good bit of listening, I'm really not sure I can pick out a real difference in sound quality between the two players. A lot of my initial impressions before level matching them were extremely biased by loudness. As it turns out, the Transporter is about 1 dB louder that the SB3 at fixed output. The CI DAC is 1.5 dB louder than the SB3. Both of these units sounded pronouncedly better until I level matched them using pink noise and an SPL meter, after which they all pretty much sounded the same. (There's a more noticeable difference between the CI unit and the two Slim Devices units, but it's still pretty subtle.) Don't get me wrong, it sounds wonderful, and I almost wouldn't mind buying one just to know that I have pretty darn close to the best that money can buy (I expect there might be a few in here that will take issue with that claim, but I'm not about to drop 5 figures on any single piece of audio gear anytime soon). Plus, I do enjoy its aesthetic qualities and feature set. That said, the SB3 comes awfully close in terms of purely sonic performance, at least to a point where I'm pretty sure I can't tell the difference. I didn't get a chance to do a DBT this weekend so that is to follow this week. I'm willing to believe that there might be something to the theory that audio quality past a certain point works on a pretty subconscious level. If I can identify the Transporter in a blind A/B test as being better most of the time, I'm quite content to make it a fixture in my system. Regarding the noise that my tweeter emits from the SB3 vs the Transporter, I did end up trying them both on RCA outs. No major difference between Transporter on XLR vs RCA. Difference between the SB3 vs Transporter as mentioned before, is very audible with my ear against the tweeter, but as soon as I got a couple feet away, I couldn't hear it anymore. Note that this is at a setting 30 dB above my usual listening volume. So, yes, the noise floor is lower in the TP, but I'm not convinced that it actually matters when I'm sitting 8+ feet from each speaker. Anyway, I have to admit I was a bit disappointed. I was hoping the TP would be a total knockout, but it's been a little underwhelming so far. -- dekaliber dekaliber's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63394 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
