Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help needed: convert 24 bit WMA Lossless into WAV
Since this thread has been spammed many, many times in the more than three years it's been around, I'm taking the liberty of closing it. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta, PQP1 - early beta), SBC (early beta), Squeezebox Radio (PB1 - early beta), Squeezebox Touch (late beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Smart Gain
chitunes;410901 Wrote: Based on your description, the files as played through Duet should already be volume-leveled, so I am in fact hearing a doubled action. Do I have this right? Are you using iTunes' Sound Check? I believe there's a bug out there were the values calculated by iTunes are ADDED to the values calculated by an RG algorithm, doubling the effect. The solution is to use one or the other. Oh and it's a common misconception that MP3Gain alters volume levels by default. It can analyze and write tags only as well, actually altering the volume is a separate function. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60836 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Convertissor N/A or not convertissor ?
I assume you're talking about a DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter). I don't mean to sound abrupt, but this is a very frequently asked question and a search of this forum will yield pages of threads. Use the search function with DAC. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61928 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A/B SB3 vs Transporter
musicexpression;409951 Wrote: but does anyone ever open up the TP and peek into its internals and see what sort of components used? Photos here: http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1930618_nnKTm/1 -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61686 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Album art via Transporter?
The cover art comes from the server software, SqueezeCenter. Since the Controller communicates with SqueezeCenter, it will get cover art. The Controller doesn't control the Transporter directly, it directs SqueezeCenter to control the Transporter. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Album art via Transporter?
cybervision_;404819 Wrote: But the controller connects through the Transporter? I don't have any other Wifi connection... No, you need a wireless network for the Controller to work. You can use a Squeezebox Receiver, it will act as a limited AP for the controller. But since the Transporter was developed before the Controller, it can't act as an AP for the Controller. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Album art via Transporter?
Just get a wireless router. They usually have 4 wired LAN ports as well. So use the LAN ports to get Ethernet to the NAS and the Transporter, use the WAN port to connect to the Internet and use the other LAN ports to connect computers, etc. Then the wireless portion of the router will serve the Controller, with everything else wired. 802.11g routers can be fairly cheap now, I can even find one here in Canada for about $30. A good one (Linksys WRT54GL) is about $60. Even n routers are coming down to about $60. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Album art via Transporter?
cybervision_;404879 Wrote: I see, are there any brands that work better/worse than others? Many here, including myself, have had good success with the Linksys WRT54GL. Note the L. The bandwidth is more than enough no matter what technology I take it when the only job 99% of the time will be to run SC? The main thing is going to be range. Locate the router as close to where you will use the SBC as you can, or at least put it in a central location. The WRT54GL is good because it has two antennas that you can re-orient or even replace. Many others only have one antenna or no antennas at all (internal antennas). An 802.11 pre n router may help because it often has more than two antennas, a more sophisticated radio module, and is designed to give greater range. However I haven't used these, and I think I've read a report or two where there can be problems even with these. Also, is it possible to connect the router to another Wirelessrouter for internet access? I connect to the neighbours router and I need a password to access it, can you store a password within the router? (I have permission to use the net-access ;-) ) Although you can associate a wireless router with another, this is pretty advanced. You can do this with the WRT54GL and the DD-WRT firmware at least. This is called WDS (Wireless Distribution System): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System It is quite advanced and not guaranteed to work, especially if your router is not the same brand as his. Your best bet is to get your own Internet access, sorry to say. You can operate your wired/wireless network in isolation from the Internet if you want - SqueezeCenter, your Transporter and the Controller should work fine, but you won't be able to access SqueezeNetwork or any Internet Radio streams. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter Extremely loose TOSLINK receptacle
I've only seen two types of TOSLINK connectors: - proper ones with a D-shaped connector. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TOSLINK.jpg These should push the door out of the way and press in pretty tight, not quite clicking in place but almost. If not, you have a defective receptacle. - cheap ones that are circular. The connector is made from a slightly gummy, rubbery material. The deformation and stickiness of this material and the fact that the circle is large enough to wedge into the D-shaped connector hold it in place. It doesn't feel as secure as the D-connector but it seems to work fine. If either type falls out then you probably have a defective receptacle. This seems quite common - it looks like the protective door is the weak part of the receptacle. It will sometimes fall off or jam. My A/V receiver had a door off right in the store. It looks like the door forms part of the mechanism that holds the connector in place - without it, the connector won't stay in. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60991 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as DAC: Vu-meter external input
No, the VU meters are generated by SqueezeCenter, so the music must be played in SC in order to get VU meters. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60513 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Playing back multichannel (5.1) 96/24 WAV files
michael123;396084 Wrote: Is Transporter different in this respect of handling high sample rate files? Is it more stable? It handles 24/96 natively. And you should be able to play 24/96 on the SB3 with SC 7.3.3 (it will be downsampling though). -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59951 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and balanced headphone
darrenyeats;395589 Wrote: Would there be any technical advantage in feeding headphones from the RCA outs of an SB3 rather than the headphone jack? BTW I use PX-100s (one reason I like them is they're easy to drive). Darren Yes, see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/BeginnersGuideToConnecting#A_Note_on_the_Headphone_Jack Also Sean Adams indicates the Geek Port functionality of the SB3's headphone jack adds some noise. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28236 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Playing back multichannel (5.1) 96/24 WAV files
No. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59868 -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59951 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Playing back multichannel (5.1) 96/24 WAV files
michael123;395268 Wrote: 1) DTS 5.1 is not applicable here, as I have 96/24 lossless WAV, I do not want to go into lossy 5.1 DTS Please re-read that thread. It said that DTS/DD 5.1 is possible, others (6-channel FLAC, MLP) aren't. So, is it a confirmed bug? I do want to pass these digitally to my preamp.. It's not a bug, it's that these devices are simply not capable of this. They are two-channel devices. 2) How would you suggest me to downmix this material into high-quality stereo? Audacity is usually good at this sort of thing, but I've never used it for this. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59951 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Playing back multichannel (5.1) 96/24 WAV files
michael123;395275 Wrote: Still, somehow I thought that SqueezeCenter would perform downmix SC 7.3.3 does down-sample- 24/192 to 24/96 for the Transporter and 24/192 and 24/96 to 24/48 for the Squeezebox, but this is not down-mixing-. , or, it is possible to output 96/24 5.1 signal from S/PDIF of SB3 (why not?) I don't believe S/PDIF supports 24/96 PCM. It supports DTS 2496 but that's a special format. You'd have to go to HDMI to support 24/96 and 24/192. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59951 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Burn in time?
StigErik;394899 Wrote: I would think that the socalled factory burn-in process is done mainly to ensure that the products actually works when they reach the customer...? Semiconductors that are bad usually breaks within a few hours, so a day or two of burn-in at the factory is a good thing for quality assurance. That's what they told me at Bryston: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sony SS2300 DAC or SB Rcvr DAC
See http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/AV_Receivers -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59297 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Apple ends DRM and improves quality
ralphpnj;381695 Wrote: And don't forget: Oscar Peterson, Neil Young, K.D. Lang, Leonard Cohen and Barenaked Ladies The Guess Who and Paul Anka as well... However, Celine Dion remains an unforgivable offense. Oh how I detest thee, let me count the ways: over-the-top singing, unlistenable arrangements and god awful songs. Please Celine, just once record a halfway worthwhile song, maybe one by fellow countryman Cohen to start. (I looked at the listing of her songs on All Music Guide - not one song by the likes of Dylan, Young or Cohen but there is one John Lennon song - Beautiful Boy - one of his more forgettable tunes.) We here in Canada determined that Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction were ineffective and developed Celine... Militarily we're fairly small so we stick to psy-ops tactics. ;-) -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SeeDeClip/TxtDeClip
Sounds cool, but using the Red Hot Chili Peppers -Californication- album as an example - it's cited prominently on the software's home page as a user comment - the clipped samples are -gone-. Not pining for the fjords. Ceased to be. An ex-parrot, err, sample. So how can they be recovered merely by lowering the waveform away from full-scale? The samples would have to be created somehow. I saw something about FFT, and that's very nice, but they are still guessed/interpolated/created from no real data. That data is just not there anymore - it may hopefully exist on the masters but it sure doesn't on the CD. And this is why loudness wars are so bad. If you want to listen to Californication at high volume like the customer does, just use ReplayGain. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57872 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SeeDeClip/TxtDeClip
Definitely sounds cool, please keep us informed of your results! -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57872 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter samplerate
Now that this thread is well and truly OT - I've noticed backwards slow motion with propellers as well, but interestingly only in reflections in standing water (?) You can also see discontinuity/strobing if you wave your hand in front of a CRT monitor or TV. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57631 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thinking about the Transporter again
The degaussing issue was fixed several firmwares ago, so make sure you run the latest SC. The unit will degauss now only after a power cycle (actual interruption of power, not merely pressing the POWER button) and a reboot. It might also do this after extensive use of the knob, but I don't use the knob extensively so I'm not sure. Under normal playback and when sitting idle it should not make the degaussing noise. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57762 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Greenhorn looking for guidance.
Does your Denon have preouts? If so, you have a nice upgrade path if you ever want to go to a separate preamp/poweramp like many audiophiles have. You may want to just connect the preouts to a nice 2-channel amp and go from there to your main (L/R) speakers. This will allow you to experiment with a 2-channel amp and find one you like at your leisure. Generally speaking, A/V receivers are often limited by their power supply, so you'll find using an outboard amp will make things sound better because the amp will have its own (serious) power supply. Often the A/V receiver's preamp section isn't as bad as its power amp section because the preamp section isn't affected by an undersized power supply quite as much as the power amps. To maximize this you may want to use the receiver's direct or source direct mode where it (supposedly) bypasses most of the digital circuitry. Plus, you can continue to use the receiver to listen to movies, gaming, etc. in 5.1. And when funds permit, you can use the 2-channel amp in a dedicated 2-channel setup along with a preamp, reusing the receiver elsewhere. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Rules
Nonreality;357493 Wrote: With your new rules I'm afraid I'll say something that will get me banned without meaning to have that cause. You should be, this was completely uncalled-for: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=357500postcount=5 I like to think I help out a lot on these forums and your comment was very rude. Next time I won't be so nice, I will consider it a personal attack. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PC World - Audiophiles guide to streaming music
Nonreality;355413 Wrote: It could have at least mentioned dbpoweramp Agreed, although there are more than just those two, and the article shouldn't have to go on for 20 pages... and a better overall ripper and converter than EAC. That's a subjective opinion though. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54294 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Audiophile Rip and Store?
GHillTX;350523 Wrote: The setup I liked best was using a NetGear Ready NAS network external hard drive. It's small and silent and costs $399 with 500GB and another $99 gets you another 500GB for the extra tray inside. With that config you get RAID for duplicate file copies. One really cool thing about this product is that it connects wirelessly to your home network so you can put it anywhere, and you don't have to have any computers turned on to get full operation from it, since the Squeezebox software resides on the Transporter. The NetGear ReadyNAS is not wireless as mentioned above, but you really don't want your server to be wireless anyway! That would lead to two wireless hops if your SB/TP is also wireless. This can sometimes work but often pushes the limits of wireless networking if you have a marginal home environment for wireless. Also note the server software does not reside in the Transporter or any other SB player for that matter, it's always in the server, which is why SqueezeCenter is slow on the ReadyNAS because the ReadyNAS is not a general-purpose computer. TheRooster2000;350728 Wrote: Can a M3U Playlist automatically be generated? Why do you want a playlist? IMHO playlists are used for older player software and aren't really necessary at rip time for SqueezeCenter. Anyway EAC can automatically write playlists, I'd imagine dBpowerAMP can as well. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53344 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sound quality improving clock.
True, Peter Belt does seem to have a sense of civic duty by sharing some of his knowledge for free. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53635 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sound quality improving clock.
Who wins between the company above and this one? http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/index.html I was also going to include the special wooden C37 lacquer volume control knob that would improve sound for only $480, but it appears to have been withdrawn from the market! I would imagine it's all those skeptics out there... -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53635 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing your ears frequency response.
opaqueice;349673 Wrote: The tone from an NTSC TV probably comes from the raster scan frequency, which is ~15,734 Hz. Why do you say it must be higher than 16? Just a guess, I thought it was fairly high since many can't hear it. Actually it was a pretty good guess - 15.7 kHz as you indicate. Oh and there's also a dental X-ray, which emits an even higher tone, definitely on the edge of my hearing. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53636 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing your ears frequency response.
SuperQ;348900 Wrote: Same thing goes for standard analog NTSC tube TVs. The most annoying sound ever. I use that as a standard to judge my hearing loss as I get older. I can still hear it. I've worked in industrial environments but have always used hearing protection. My parents always wondered how my brother and I could hear a TV with the sound off. Anyone know how high of a tone it is? It must be 16 kHz or higher. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta), SBC (beta - no battery) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53636 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sb3 or receiver
Mnyb;344266 Wrote: The SB3 can also be switched back and forth from SN solely via the web-UI. So can the SBR - any player other than the SliMP3 and the SB1. androidtopp;345908 Wrote: I think I saw someone say that you can control an SBR with an IR remote. The SBR doesn't have an IR receiver so this isn't possible. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53073 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sb3 or receiver
androidtopp;346031 Wrote: Although, now that I have both Boom and SB3, it's a little more appealing. Keep in mind that the SB3 remote can be used with Boom and vice-versa. :-) -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53073 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired
tonny;345173 Wrote: A hifi dealer in Gothenburg claims that the SB is quite sensitive and can sound like a good MP3-player when using wireless.. and like a £500 CD-player wired. Does this same dealer also believe his Word files will be worse when they arrive at his computer via a wireless network rather than wired? He's demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of how the system works as the files are transmitted as computer sound files (FLAC, WAV, MP3 etc.) to the Squeezebox which decodes them and then plays them back. It doesn't matter one bit how the files are transmitted, just like your computer files won't be altered when you send them to another computer. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53207 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Wireless or Wired
I think some audiophiles just get scared when they hear the word wireless and think it will automatically impact sound quality without actually doing any listening tests. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53207 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] #935; #927; #916; #917; (CODE) format
ghostrider;342625 Wrote: Can anyone speculate why it doesn't appear in the new music folder? New music is based on the date modified. If you have albums with date modified newer than this, it'll get pushed back, and if you have enough newer albums it won't make the list - the list length is set by the New Music Limit setting in Settings - Music Library and defaults at 100. What does your OS tell you the date modified is? -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49956 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Toslink question: glass vs. plastic
joeriz;342052 Wrote: My question: does it really matter for a roughly 3-6 foot run of cable? Why not just try it out? Audiophiles swear by glass - for me the difference is negligible to non-existent. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Toslink question: glass vs. plastic
Themis;342078 Wrote: But you'll need good cables, that's for sure. Why, for such an easy application? The Behringer's doing a lot more to the signal than any cable does. joeriz;342100 Wrote: 'Cause I don't want to buy both kinds. ;0) I guess I meant, try out plastic and see if it sounds bad... -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Boom good enough for audiophile use
lanierb;335384 Wrote: I'm convinced SD did the best that was possible given the form factor, and they even exceeded my high expectations, but there is simply a limit to what you can do with 3 speakers. Take a look at the white paper - these 3 speakers are actively corrected to try to compensate for the bass roll-off. There's only so much you can do - eventually physics wins, but these sure don't sound like typical 3 woofers. And they're not, because they're driven with regards to correcting the bad things they might do. You can do this with a system that's designed around a given, fixed set of drivers with known limitations and a method to counteract them as opposed to a dumb loudspeaker. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51624 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Start Small or Jump to Transporter?
DRSonusFaber;332704 Wrote: I also started looking at storage options, becuase it's clear that i need to reburn everything in Flac, and then keep iTunes separate - if I keep it at all. i'll have to look into rockbox. I was going to run squeezecenter on my laptop, but it's looking like i'm going to use a dedicated computer, or look at a compatible NAS option (does anyone run squeeze center off of a NAS) if so which one? Can you only use the netgear ready nas? Or has someone done it on cheaper western digital my book drive? thoughts? I was also thinking of using an old desktop with a usb drive to beef up storage. Better yet, use that old desktop to run SC and use a NAS to store files. IMHO SC on a NAS is just trouble, judging from the forum posts at least. Even if it works it's underpowered. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Start Small or Jump to Transporter?
darrenyeats;331983 Wrote: Aren't these are relatively rare? Please say yes. You'll know if you rip one. There are various schemes, but usually you'll get an error on a repeatable frequency. I've seen once every two seconds, once every 5 seconds and once every 10 seconds. There's no audible defect in the rip but it cripples AccurateRip and slows down the rip considerably. I have had such rips take 24 hours or more. -- Mark Lanctot Make it so it doesn't suck is a good design target, but hard to implement - Michael Herger Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Start Small or Jump to Transporter?
DRSonusFaber;331041 Wrote: Finally - is there a plug in that allows you to use iTunes to manage and play your music through the Duet? No, and given Apple's secrecy and closed nature, there may never be. DRSonusFaber;331199 Wrote: I'm sorry but what is a 24/96 file? CDs are 16-bit depth, 44.1 kHz sampling (16/44.1). High-resolution music has 24-bit depth and higher sample rates - 48 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 96 kHz and 192 kHz are common but there are other arbitrary values. The Duet will handle 16/44.1 and 24/48 files without issue. It should play 24/96 but through dropping samples (decimation) and this isn't the proper way to do it. The Transporter will play 24/96 properly and I believe 24/88.2 as well now. The Transporter DAC can't handle sample rates higher than 96 kHz. Now as for where you can find this beyond CD material...it's hard. Hackers have gotten this material off of DVD-A discs and SACD discs (but this is a real hack, you have to essentially re-record it). DVD-A and SACD are dead, so this source is gone. There's a very limited selection of high-res material made direct from the source available for download from various sites currently. Note high-res material and file type are independent provided the file type supports it. You can have 24/96 FLAC files for example. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Poping sounds with Kora Hermes DAC
itai;322592 Wrote: Do we have control on this replay gain? What is it? it's a feature/bug? See http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Automatic_Volume_Adjustment -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50151 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet
'Course there's also a pretty shocking thing MusicGiants used to do - their software used to search your hard drive for MP3s, assume they were illegal, and automatically add MusicGiants downloads of those tracks to your invoice! The next step was to delete them once it found them, but I don't think they went this far. They no longer do this, but I would never trust a company that ever thought this was a good idea. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49614 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC or ALAC that is the question!?
sc53;317065 Wrote: But if it takes 20 mins per disc (Apple Lossless takes about 5 mins per disk) or requires tons of initial setup etc. I'd use iTunes and not worry about that one track out of thousands that may contain an audible error. There are two separate processes here - ripping and encoding. Apple Lossless doesn't rip, iTunes does. iTunes then encodes the resulting rip into Apple Lossless or MP3. Programs other than iTunes (dBpowerAMP for example) can also encode into ALAC. The speed of ripping doesn't influence the speed of encoding. In terms of encoding speed, there aren't huge advantages in any one format. For example, when FLAC was slower than ALAC it was changed and now is at least as fast. Personally, I don't really care how long ripping takes as long as it's as correct as possible. You can leave your computer and go do other things. Often those protected CDs take ~24 hours to rip... ps Phil Leigh--I have Let It Be Naked too and had no problems ripping it with iTunes! These protected CDs usually contain purposeful errors every 2-5 seconds. This shows that iTunes will happily rip such errors and not tell you. A secure ripper will have a problem with this because it will detect the errors and attempt to correct them, that's the point of this protection mechanism - to frustrate the user and discourage ripping. These errors are not necessarily audible, but they are there. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49492 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC or ALAC that is the question!?
esbrewer;317310 Wrote: I'm not sure I follow the reasoning here. If iTunes and other less secure rippers popular with the general public do not get hung up on such purposeful errors - where is the deterrent value in their inclusion? Well, record companies aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are they? :-) It was a hairbrained scheme that was in use from 2003 to about 2005. The idea was that these errors (probably only a few bits) would be inaudible in a regular CD player but that a ripper would stumble on them. Rippers who don't do any error correction won't stumble on them because they just play straight through like a regular CD player does, errors and all. Or are the record companies trying to deter the admittedly small percentage of people in the marketplace who are concerned about their rips not being bit-perfect? Shouldn't their efforts be focused on deterring the common user? They've abandoned such schemes now, but it culminated in the infamous Sony rootkit debacle. That's as far as they went and they definitely crossed the line. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49492 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC or ALAC that is the question!?
m1abrams;317316 Wrote: Well I not sure about insecure rippers handling those CDs well. I have a CD that has this attempt at DRM in place and I did rip it with iTunes and it ripped very quickly however when I played it back it was full of pops and clicks. Ran it through EAC and it took almost a day to rip, but was clean when it finished. There were multiple schemes from different companies and they got better at what they were trying to do as time went on. Googling finds this list: SafeDisc, SafeDisc v2, SecuROM, DiscGuard, CD-Cops, LaserLock, Cactus Data Shield, Lock Blocks, ProtectCD, PSX/Lybcrypt, CD-Check, Dummy Files, Oversize Illegal TOC There once was a software tool out there that could identify what type of protection was on a disc. Couldn't do anything about it though. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49492 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analog Audio Output Problem with SBR
Obvious question: is the volume turned up on the SBR and is the output not attenuated? Press the controller volume up button or the web interface volume up meter/button. Also go to Settings - Players - Audio - Preamp Volume Attenuation (could be different wording, I don't have an SBR connected right now) and be sure it's set to 0. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45838 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Who uses green marker pens on their CDs?
bigfool1956;278752 Wrote: I do notice that tracks near the end of a long CD tend to have more problems than others. As these tracks are on the outside of the CD, I assume that is due to warping. Good observation, I've noticed this too. I had assumed it was due to a slightly off-balance CD that was wobbling. The wobble would be more pronounced at the outer edge. There was an early MythBusters episode where they spun a CD in a router - the high-speed camera showed that the wobble was so pronounced the CD was literally bending into a wave shape at the outer edge. This probably happens on all CDs to a much lesser degree. You can even hear an out-of-balance disc, it causes the drive to become noisier as it's working harder to spin it and trying harder to keep the speed constant. A bit of trivia, way back when I remember seeing the CD single for Green Day's -Brain Stew/Jaded-. It was shaped like a brain! Obviously out-of-balance, and there was a prominent warning that it may not play in all players. I should have gotten it just for collector's value... -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44567 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Rodney_Gold;276360 Wrote: Perhaps a plugin can be written or something can be put in software to preset a volume when the transporter/sb powers up , like set a default start volume where it could NEVER output at full vol if something goes wrong. The problem was, the white noise of death was caused by a rare software glitch. No software attenuation corrected it. Hardware attenuation was the only guarantee. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
grabs a bag of popcorn and waits for the show, wondering how long it takes before the testing methodology is questioned then discarded -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. SB2, Transporter, beta SBR, beta SBC, pre-production SBC Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
(regarding DRC) slimkid;269494 Wrote: I still can't believe it's not there to begin with. I mean, every piece of software out there has it (winamp, foobar, iTunes ??). Inguz is nice, but requires too much juice from server and provides more than most people need. This is as a result of SS/SC -not- processing the audio but merely sending it as data and allowing the player to do it. This is a GOOD thing. I don't want my OS playing around with the audio and improving it. Inguz has to decompress to WAV, make its modifications, and recompress, all in real-time. This takes considerable CPU grunt. I'm not sure what TacT uses but I bet it's not off-the-shelf DSP chips - more like RISC or even x86 CPUs. This stuff is easy in a software player that's doing the decoding, much harder in software that isn't decoding at all. Now the SB1 had an equalizer, so it is possible to do this in software by accessing some code in the hardware I'd imagine. Then again, many audiophiles would not want such uncleanliness in their signal path... Oh and regarding 802.11n, whenever I see this with respect to audio products, I always chuckle about it - it's the old mine's bigger than yours argument again (including 24/192, which is more like my numbers are bigger than yours). -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. SB2, Transporter, beta SBR, beta SBC, production SBC Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
slimkid;269850 Wrote: thks, that explains why there are treble and bass controls in prefs file that I couldn't activate :). So why was that discontinued? Good question. I am assuming this was something that was handled in hardware by the SB1. The SB1 used a Micronas MAS3539 decoder. Anything newer uses a Xilinx CPLD - a programmable decoder which can allow reprogramming to use new codecs as they are developed. The Micronas chip was hardwired - the SB1 can never support any formats other than MP3 and WAV. I'm guessing that the Micronas chip allowed such adjustments, because surely these adjustments could only be performed during playback, which is what the chip is doing. -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. SB2, Transporter, beta SBR, beta SBC, production SBC Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter DEAD after latest update!
Kiep;266267 Wrote: I run Server 7, 2008-01-23 version with firmware v.36 and I have no issues The OP was referring to FW40, which is located in trunk: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/ -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43123 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!
bigfool1956;265499 Wrote: On the other hand look at this link: http://www.chicagomasteringservice.com/loudness.html and scroll down to the two waveform diagrams for Iggy Pop and the Stooges' Search and Destroy, one from 1990, and the other from the 1997 remaster. Now that is truly scary stuff! That waveform is horrific! The recording must sound like a wall of noise. -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43045 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller
gsawdy;263992 Wrote: Ths SBC may not tell the device what to do, but doesn't it require the device to receive the RF signal and transmit it to SqueezeCenter? Given that I've used the SBC with an SB2 and a Transporter that do not have this rudimentary AP behavior, no. The SBC does communicate directly with the SBR for setup - the SBR forms an ad-hoc network which the SBC connects with. But once the SBR is set up, the SBC continues to connect to my wireless network as my router shows. An interesting question would be - what happens when the SBR is connected by Ethernet and you don't have a wireless network? I believe Dean has stated that the SBR would continue to act as an AP, meaning that you wouldn't need a wireless router, but I think there may have been some contradictory statements from others since. Oh and the SBC is so fast it feels native. You don't even really think about what it's doing. It's almost as fast as the IR remote and faster than the web UI. -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42761 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1000 Posts and Counting...
Congratulations ezkcdude! Yes, I must say, I've never been so involved in a company whose products I own as Slim Devices, and I'm pleased that the feeling stayed the same with Logitech. I compare it to my other tech products and the feeling is just not there. Linksys/Cisco? Toshiba? Marantz? Even my Energy speakers? Just not there - I'm just a sales figure to those companies. I have no particular allegiance to them, when it comes to replacing those products I'll go with the best value-for-dollar proposition and I have no qualms about throwing brand loyalty out the window. But with this company, it's different. The CEO and directors answer questions very frequently, and are honest about their products. And concerns about the product DO get addressed, despite some comments on the forum - when was the last time you were able to submit a bug for your DVD player, and when was the last time the company actually changed the DVD player to accommodate you? -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42900 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 VS the Transporter
tomjtx;263634 Wrote: I always enjoy an unbiased , detailed report on gear, thank you for that :-) LOL, +1! Personally I find a modded Yugo makes a fullstrike against a Porche myself. -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42840 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
Just to reinforce what's being said here, the audio data is being transmitted to the SB/TP as a computer file. The SB does the decoding. It's the same process as file transfers within a computer network. The OS's audio system isn't involved in the slightest - the data is treated as data, not audio, and it's out of the picture. -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Music File Protection
norderney;260634 Wrote: To upgrade to the latest version of FLAC ver 1.2.1 do I just download from http://flac.sourceforge.net/ and then run the install process? Yes. Will I need to change any of my EAC settings? Anything else I wiould need to do? FLAC will install to the same directory so no, you don't need to change any settings. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz? Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42358 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FYI - mp3 file quality audibility
Thoughts: - this is really depressing for future prospects of lossless music available online. There's really no incentive for anyone to do it and if results like this get noticed, even less. Yes, I know in a double-blind test I may not be able to hear it. I believe I detect a softness in MP3 though. However as I don't adhere to magic cables, Shakti stones, C37 lacquer or PWB foils, allow me this little bit of placebo... - audiophiles don't seem to have that much better hearing in this study: Even so, the correlation between audiophilia and ability to detect the better Santana recordings, though significant, is not very strong: just 0.17. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41120 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Not all 24/96 flac's are created equal
ezkcdude;249745 Wrote: Going back to the thread title, how do people actually create true 24/96 FLAC? I've made some 24/96 WAV recordings (using a Zoom H4), but I haven't been able to figure out how to get 24/96 FLAC files from the source files. Any suggestions? It's been a while since I played with 24/96, but I believe the standard FLAC encoder or FLAC frontend will work just fine. I have played with encoding 24/48 recently, FLAC gives a warning about legacy WAV file but bits per sample = 24 but encodes just fine. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz? Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41144 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
seanadams;244673 Wrote: I think for 99.% of population answer is no. Have you done a poll then? So my decision is to go with mp3 because of space savings zero quality reduction. Imperceptible maybe, but never zero by definition. That fact bothers a great many of us, enough to warrant spending a measly $100 on a 500 GB hard drive. Perhaps I'm obsessive-compulsive, but the very idea that lurking among my music collection would be one killer MP3 where I could hear audible artifacts would drive me nuts. I'd have to listen to every track intently, not enjoying the music but listening for errors. And if I found one, are there more? I would rather the peace of mind of a lossless format and forget about it. Plus if I ever wanted to transcode to another format it would be easy. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3/Transporter volume control....yes, again
joeriz;247395 Wrote: ...which would allow you to adjust the volume digitally. I think you meant 'analog' volume adjustment... ;0) Err, oh yeah. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40856 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3/Transporter volume control....yes, again
All volume adjustment in the SB3 or Transporter is digital. There is no potentiometer* which would allow you to adjust the volume digitally. * the Transporter has sets of resistors for fixed analog attenuation though. joeriz Wrote: I have searched the forum on this issue and, quite frankly, the threads on this and related topics are clear as mud to me. Yeah, there has been a lot of conflicting statements and confusing discussions, but the bottom line seems to be that the digital volume control is pretty well-implemented (24 bit) and isn't as damaging as it might be, especially at higher volume ranges. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40856 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Missing the oomph
Robin Bowes;246214 Wrote: Inguz is not a DAC - it's DSP, offering room correction and other signal filters. I did know that - this is what I get for not quoting posts! Sorry. Personally I'd much rather use Inguz if I wanted a certain tone rather than force a DAC to do it. Square peg, round hole and all that. It just doesn't seem to be the right tool for the job. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40581 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Heresy
Which NAS are you looking at that has a digital audio out? And what interface are you referring to? SlimServer to catalog the music and SoftSqueeze to play it? Can SoftSqueeze even run on a NAS? It's not heresy, you can accomplish all this with a PC. But if you just look on all the (paranoid) threads on here about power supplies, even going as far as a battery, what do you think the power is like on a PC? Chaos compared to even the much-maligned SB switching power supply. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40647 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Heresy
nicketynick;245837 Wrote: I know I'm not going to explain this right, but I'll try, in layman's terms (sorry, laymen!) You can't just hook the NAS/router directly into a DAC - you're still missing the 'soundcard' function that a computer (or the SB3) provides in translating the digital file (.wav, eg) into a *digital audio signal* (is this referred to as PCM format?) that gets fed to a DAC for 'digital-to-analogue' conversion. For example, that's why the SB3/Transporter have 'digital outs'. This is the digital audio signal that you can feed to a DAC, after the SB3 has already changed it from a computer file to a digital audio signal. Proud of myself - I think I've explained it to myself, even if nobody else gets it! No, that's pretty good! Shredder - the Ethernet interface on the SB, the Transporter and any NAS is for computer communication only, not audio. It can be used to send Internet data or computer files. The SB and Transporter use it just like the wireless interface to receive the raw computer files. They then decode them into audio. What's potentially confusing you is you can use Ethernet patch cable to send an audio signal, but really you're just using the wires as you can use any wire. You're not using them as computer communication conduits at all. You can use the SB/Transporter this way, there's gear you can get to send the analog audio down Ethernet cable and get it back to analog audio on the other end. But note that we're not using the SB/Transporter/NAS Ethernet port for this, we're merely using the copper wire that comes in the Ethernet cable as we would any wire. For a NAS to be used this way, it would need a sound card and they almost always don't have one. You'd need a PC with a proper sound card. It is possible with SlimServer and Softsqueeze but it's not as elegant and simple. With a good soundcard and a Benchmark DAC the sound could be better than an SB alone but it will have a hard time beating the Transporter as the Transporter's DAC and power supplies are very good. Using the Transporter's digital out is a waste of its DAC, you'd really be better off with an SB + DAC or a PC + DAC. I don't see what advantages the PC + DAC would give you over the SB + DAC, for one thing it would be more expensive and could never be as quiet because there would have to be at least a hard drive in the PC. I've been accused of being a fanboy and I don't want to dissuade you from the PC (with soundcard) + DAC route, but in summary, a PC + DAC may be better than an SB alone, it may not be better than an SB + DAC and it will probably not be better than a Transporter using its built-in DAC. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40647 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Missing the oomph
vrobin;245285 Wrote: using ethernet instead of wifi can also help getting more of your SB without costing too much... If you mean avoiding dropouts, interference and general wireless hell then yes. If you mean it will yield subtle sonic improvements dem's fightin' words... :-) -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40581 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner
pkfox;244016 Wrote: Thanks Mark, I had horrible visions of having to send it back - while I have your ear - I have slimserver on a READYNAS NV , is there a way I can retrieve the ss version from the command line ? Not from the command line that I know of, but easily accessible on the web interface at the bottom of Server Settings. The ReadyNAS NV may be using an older version of SlimServer. Unfortunately newer versions must be modified by Infrant/Netgear. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] verify possible bug
Yes, why are we splitting hairs about a codec that's broken by design? MP3s will always have artifacts, even if it's audible under extreme circumstances with MP3 codec A and inaudible under the same circumstances (but likely audible under different circumstances) with MP3 codec B. Answer: use lossless if hearing noise at -90 dB is an issue. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40411 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner
Normal. This is the knob in a degauss cycle (the knob is magnetic). Later firmware versions didn't do this quite as much, so be sure to keep SlimServer current in order to get the latest firmware version. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Remember the Randi million dollar cable challenge?
Probably because their customers are marketing sponges and will believe anything they hear - they don't need a fancy website. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40387 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which budget constrained DAC for SB3?
SoftwireEngineer;243255 Wrote: The stock SB3 has some jitter which really shows up in the listening. Huh? Most tests show the jitter as fairly low. Do you have scope images? One should also try a better supply or power conditioner or better interconnects before adding more components to the chain. Well if you're saying that a better power supply, power conditioning or interconnects would improve things more than a different DAC maybe we don't need to see scope images at all. :-P -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39892 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn 24/96 downloads make my SB3 freeze
Markhh2;243259 Wrote: BTW I'm using firmware version 15. This firmware is very old, current firmware is 81. Support for 96 kHz probably appeared later, I believe the SB3 supports it by dropping every other sample, playing at effectively 48 kHz. The Transporter natively supports 96 kHz. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40308 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Setting Transporter to Slave for World Clock Input
You mean it doesn't have enough bandwidth? -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Music streaming, Video Display option with Squeezebox, network storage
Gene Zalar;241972 Wrote: Will WIFI headphones eliminate the current headphone jack with the Squeezbox? ...are there Wi-Fi headphones? I have never seen them. If you mean wireless headphones, they're usually analog, and they're usually quite crappy. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40157 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400
Whatever happened to listening/demoing speakers before purchase? I'd never buy speakers based on recommendations on an audio forum...speakers are highly subjective. What I may love, you may hate. There's no universal standard, otherwise there'd be only one company making speakers. I arrived at this conclusion after listening to some speakers which are highly recommended at audio forums but which I hated - Paradigm. Yuck. I just don't like the voicing of Paradigm speakers no matter how far up in the line I go. Same with BW, also highly recommended, and those were the high-end 800Ds I was listening to. What I *DID* like: - Energy (ended up buying them) - Canton (like Energy but a little more laid-back) - Tannoy -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400
OK, sorry, I re-worded. Still, I would demo any and every possible speaker in my budget, time permitting, without regard to brand reputation among others. I was sure I was going to buy Paradigm based on recommendations, glad I listened first. OTOH, Energy were not recommended due to tweeter fragility. I've used them nearly every day for 4 years, never a problem. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
amcluesent;241326 Wrote: CD player, 20W amplifier, 4 speakers, iPod dock, internet and FM radio, wi-fi music streamer, FLAC/WMA/MP3 playback, Analog Devices Blackfin chipset. No mention of the music server needed or if it can mount network volumes and you navigate directories. Jack of all trades, master of none... Err, this is not to say that it's not a nice unit, I'm sure it is, but for quite some time now I would much rather have separate units doing dedicated tasks very well rather than all-in-ones that do their tasks passably (and if they don't do a task well at all, it's not like you can remove it and upgrade it.) I'd have separates if the budget allowed it. It does not. And I do currently own and have bought many receivers over the years. They're not bad and if you look around you can find some very good ones - for example the Marantz 8400 I now have sounds very, very good. But if it were up to me I'd break everything out into a pre-pro with a true analog bypass like the Bryston SP 2 along with beefy amps, monoblocks if at all possible (again Bryston fits the bill here). -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Setting Transporter to Slave for World Clock Input
mofuv;240184 Wrote: Since I have connected the transporter to the QNAP directly not linked through my router (to avoid interferences from the router) I must disconnect it every time from the router and connect it to the computer. What sort of interferences? -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi critric reveals their limited vision
ashmore;239447 Wrote: Thinking about how others in this thread have identified the ripping and delivery (PC to SB+) processes as the significant obstacles to digitised music reaching the mass market, is it not fair to conclude that on-demand services, rather than CD purchase and rip, is the way forward? For a start it is neater (requiring fewer user interventions), sound quality and tag accuracy can be regulated by the provider, and the user wont need to worry about backup. For a time, the former Slim Devices offered a CD ripping service. Not quite what you're getting at here though but it could be a solution for people with more money than time. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39438 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi critric reveals their limited vision
AndyC_772;239452 Wrote: I read on The Register the other week about how trials are beginning of selling music on USB sticks instead of CDs. In theory I think this could be great; freed from the constraints of the CD format we could have higher sample rate and bit depth, and no need to rip at all - the files, error-free and properly tagged, could just be dragged dropped straight onto a hard disc. Oh then I was going to answer something similar to the following: Of course, it won't be like that in practise. It'll be compressed music, in a proprietary format, crippled by DRM, and sold at a higher price because of the 'convenience'. Yes. CD quality! (128 kbps MP3.) Free player by We're not Evil Software Corp! (Which asks for your name and e-mail address, registering you over the Internet and enabling the files to only be played on 3 devices.) -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39438 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume regulation of transporter?
jaysung;239017 Wrote: Is xlr really as superior as many on this board supose it to be? And how is the tp designed internally? Is it just inverting the signal for symmetric output or is it balanced from scratch and the single ended signal deduced from that? The balanced signal is derived directly from the DAC. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39611 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Setting Transporter to Slave for World Clock Input
mofuv;239168 Wrote: Has anyone an idea how to access the settings of the SlimServer in the QNap Turbo Station NAS Drive? http://QNap IP address:9000 in any browser, as with all SlimServer installs. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] how to hook 2 sets od speakers up to my system?
Murph;239210 Wrote: Well, I might have some bad data here but both speakers are 8 ohm so together create 4 ohm. Your Amp claims to have 4 ohm capability so you are probably OK in hooking these up in parallel. But this is still not a good thing to do if you can avoid it. Heat output and power consumption will both increase, but distortion increases too, and the volume point at which distortion will become audible decreases. Also an 8 ohm speaker is not truly 8 ohms across all frequencies. It can have some considerable dips at certain frequencies, so if it dips down to 4 ohms in places (not uncommon BTW) you'll have a 2-ohm equivalent load at that frequency, which will cause the amp to distort or maybe even shut down at higher volumes. In short, if you can avoid doing this, avoid it! Personally I'd only do this in the long term with a massively overpowered, massively overbuilt amp like a Bryston or a Krell. One of those big, overengineered jobbies that are built like a tank. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39759 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume regulation of transporter?
I believe the single-ended signal is derived from the balanced signal. The Transporter is inherently balanced right from the DAC, the single-ended circuit is the add-on. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39611 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?
Mark Lanctot;238537 Wrote: The problem is, strictly speaking, it is illegal under the DMCA to extract audio from DVD-A or SACD onto your PC. Much more so than CD, and there are significant technological barriers in place to prevent this (particularly for SACD). CD extraction fits into the grey zone of fair use, DVD-A and SACD never have. So to provide a player for illegal formats is not only a bad idea, it may be illegal in and of itself. Just to be clear, this doesn't mean I *like* this situation, it's just that this is what the situation is. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39694 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?
ianr;238296 Wrote: Not sure if I'm just being a niche customer, but does anyone else feel that Slim/Logitech should consider a Transporter that would handle multichannel audio (DVD-A etc)? The problem is, strictly speaking, it is illegal under the DMCA to extract audio from DVD-A or SACD onto your PC. Much more so than CD, and there are significant technological barriers in place to prevent this (particularly for SACD). CD extraction fits into the grey zone of fair use, DVD-A and SACD never have. So to provide a player for illegal formats is not only a bad idea, it may be illegal in and of itself. And yeah, these formats are dead - the funeral hasn't taken place yet, that's all. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39694 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel audio on Transporter?
inguz;238623 Wrote: The suggestion that a player for multichannel formats might be illegal, though, is just silly. It's just that the grand majority of multichannel material is on DVD-A and SACD, and it is not only illegal to rip this material, it is illegal to even -talk- about ripping this material as Pat mentioned. This is the first time I've heard of B-format. I wasn't referring to that, in fact I've never heard of it, and if there's a player out there that can play it, great. But the grand majority is DVD-A and SACD. Don't get me wrong, I do like multichannel audio. Yes, if done right it cements the soundstage that stereo aficionados seek. However it has been problematic to implement - the fact that it's been around since 1934 yet still isn't popular outside of movies is telling. Has it ever been done right? Is it simply too complicated? Oh and also - since I'm in Canada I'm not subject to the DMCA - yet the MPAA and the RIAA are desperately trying to exert their influence here in order to get the politicians in their pockets and the laws changed ASAP, threatening to do things like delay movie releases if they don't get their way. Disgusting. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39694 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi critric reveals their limited vision
Patrick Dixon;236206 Wrote: I'm pretty sure Paul Messenger knows his audience, and that many of them are just like him, and not very au fait with networks and the like (they probably all use Apples too), so I'm sure the piece is written to appeal to, and to entertain them (I haven't seen it yet). FWIW, I found him to be both fascinated and excited by the technology - and so if you want to knock dinosaurs, you're knocking the wrong guy! darrenyeats;236313 Wrote: On the subject of HiFi Critic I had a long chat with Paul Messenger recently at a hi-fi show. He's a real gentleman. (Paul - if you're reading this - as agreed I'm identifying myself as the guy with the Pink Floyd t-shirt!) I'm willing to accept that he's a great guy then, and if he is reading this I apologize. I'm willing to accept the I don't do computers statement was taken out of context, but taken on its own I still find it extremely ignorant. Computers are involved in everything these days, including audio. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39438 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi critric reveals their limited vision
Now...let's not be hard on Patrick here. He's a very active member of the forums, he knows what he's doing, he's very cooperative and isn't abusive like aberdeencomponents. However that hi-fi critic is horribly ignorant with his I don't do computers statement. Is anyone picturing the dinosaurs say about 65 million years ago? -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39438 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Million dollars to prove cables areworth money
325xi;234370 Wrote: The problem lays in common misbelief that the best thing for audio is zero-distorted signal. This is correct for mastering, but clearly contradicts psychoacoustics when taken in context of end-user listening, aimed for enjoyment rather then evaluation. There are certain types of distortion that must be there for music to be listenable and enjoyable. They are not well researched though, but many audio gear makers achieve that in purely empirical ways. So many audiophiles suffer from trying to achieve two contradictive and somewhat elusive goals: to have reproduction as close to the original as possible in a way of using least-distorting gear, and at the same time to have enjoyable sound. It will be a problem for as long as there's no scientific clarification on the positive impact of certain types of distortion on listening experience. This is a very interesting idea indeed and would tend to explain why there are so many contradictions in this field. For example, tubes always measure poorly when compared with SS amps, yet many prefer the sound. Some speculate the reason behind this is harmonic distortion which is pleasing to many. The famous T-amp can also measure poorly, yet it has a cult following. Guitar amps distort pretty horribly, yet electric guitars have been popular for many years. Extremely flat FR speakers are described as being unlistenable. As a counterpoint to darrenyeats' observation, even live music has distortion of some kind. Room echoes, other people in the crowd, constructive/destructive interference from speakers, even the musicians bodies' blocking and interfering with the sound. I suppose the purest sound would be an instrument played by a minimalist machine in an anechoic chamber, and without even hearing it I bet most of us would think it would sound awful. Now I still say cables are the worst parts of the system to induce distortion. There's plenty of opportunities for distortion in other components. Cables should not be filters. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38902 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Million dollars to prove cables areworth money
Seconded. I am willing to accept there are things out there we can't measure but we can nonetheless perceive. Cables don't appear to be one of them, they are very well understood...if there were any small-scale variations that had large-scale effects electrical delivery systems would be impossible. Speakers on the other hand, are much more mystical/magical IMHO. They are mechanically and electrically very simple but you can't just bash one together and expect good sound. There is really an art to speakers, even though we've been building them for about 100 years now. Volumes and volumes have been written about them and basic designs really haven't changed but that still doesn't mean a company can manufacture a speaker that people universally like. There are things going on we just can't measure yet, and our brains and how they interpret sound are the limiting factor. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38902 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
harmonic;233911 Wrote: Solid Alu casing of this caliber is very expensiv and will have a positiv influence on the sound. How so? And don't quote that vibration reduction malarkey. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
harmonic;233919 Wrote: all the bad comments about the Klimas DS are given. I didn't have a bad comment. Machined aluminum castings look really cool. Not $20K cool, but cool. My only comment was how will they improve the sound? You appear to know before you hear it. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Million dollars to prove cables areworth money
musiklov3r;233966 Wrote: And I think you have to listen at louder levels, at least 85db so that you can hear the detail of the recording and experience any distortion or coloration that might mask detail. Sometimes just hitting a higher volume level will reveal a cable's harshness on transients. Do that for a couple of hours a day and you won't have to worry about detail any more. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38902 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter reviewed in TNT-Audio
zanash;233457 Wrote: If you can reduce the amount of vibration within the unit you will lower the noise floor ie it should sound better. The Transporter already has an S/N of 120 dB, and this was probably measured on Sean's test bench, which does not have any exotic vibration isolation properties. Don't tell me that if you 'improve' on that you can hear the difference. zanash, you seem like a nice guy but it's finally time to call shenanigans on this BS. Yes, increasing mass reduces vibrations but its effect on solid-state components is negligible. If this had a large effect it would be impossible to have working electronics in moving vehicles, let alone aircraft and space vehicles. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39093 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can't hear the difference between lossy and lossless!
thomsens;233574 Wrote: And, doesn't re-encoding an already compressed format essentially multiply the bad effects? Here I believe the key is that you're using two slightly different psychoacoustic models - AAC and MP3. The two models will drop slightly different portions of the music and you'll end up worse than if you went from uncompressed directly to lossy in one step. I've often wondered what would happen if you used the SAME model twice though (say re-encoding an MP3 in MP3). I don't think I've seen anything about that. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Million dollars to prove cables areworth money
arge;233139 Wrote: On the other hand buy the $7000 cable and put your wealth back in the economy life cycle. Hardly. All that benefits is the very small niche company that puts out such nonsense. I bet there's an astounding profit margin. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38902 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3
Phil Leigh;232900 Wrote: Yes and you'll recall that tripped me up the first time I did the test, since replaygain tags only work on FLAC files and not WAV... ...yet WAV can still be influenced by those awful normalization schemes! And iTunes is the sort of program that might do this without asking you. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38258 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
