Re: [Aus-soaring] Position Info
Hi Laurie, It may be of interest to the community that we have just partnered with Butterfly to market Dittolog. We are in the midst of finalizing development of a SAR system ourselves, through connection of a Flarm receiver to the dittobase. We have also implemented many very useful functions for a club. I hope subscribers here dont mind me giving a quick description of what we are up to with dittolog. We have greatly restructured the cost of Dittolog. People found the hardware costs prohibitive, even though a Dittolog device for an aircraft was way less than Flarm , and it contained basically the same building blocks. There were also some who found the 50cents per flight to expensive. Funnily enough, in Europe, they rather charge a levy per member per year. Our new cost structure is roughly as follows A dittolog device is roughly Euro99 for an aircraft A DittBase for your club house is now Euro299 We charge a flat fee of Euro29 per flying member. Note that we do get takeoff and landings from ALL Flarm aircraft registered on our site, regardless of whether they have a dittolog device installed. Cheers Mark On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Scott Penrose sco...@dd.com.au wrote: Yes we do that at gliding club victoria. It is quite easy to read the Public URL data and process the information. Buzz me off line if you want some code. My altimeter goal (should one day I actually have that elusive thing called time) is to integrate it as a service that adds to other services, so you can take the SPOT data from the public URLs and put it up on skylines - instead of maintaining our own maps - http://skylines.xcsoar.org/ - but making it plugins so we could have a simple CGI / HTMP Page that updates with just the “issues” (e.g. landed, not home, or Help pressed etc), up to and including custom Google Maps output (which is what we do at GCV). There is a 3rd way (SMS you mentioned, and Public URLs I mentioned) and that is via email. The email can also be automatically processed. Email and public URLs cost nothing - but don’t do constant tracking, so require someone press OK, or Help, or on the newer models - custom message. Scott On 5 Jun 2014, at 10:38 am, Laurie Hoffman lozhoff...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, Have been thinking about our need for a programme that will give spot info primarily in the event of a need for SAR. Has anyone had success with something that offers real time data and that doesn't need sms which would become expensive with regular monitoring? *Regards* *Laurie Hoffman* ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] New Varios and a new thread
A response from Butterfly's Marc Forderer via Swift Avionics. Dear Mike and Bernard Both of you wrote us the same forum post. We would prefer not getting involved into forums discussions. Her’s the (short-ish) answer. We are using AHRS computed data to determine airflow around the aircraft in realtime. We do this using our inertial platform inside our sensor unit. The algorithms we use are based on years (literally) of research and part of a doctor thesis. The horizontal component is wind, the vertical is what we call vertical air mass“ (VAM). The advantage of this new computation method is that horizontal energy addition (in gusts) does not have influence on VAM readings. We have a mixing method that allows the user to blend in normal pressure sensor (TEK) based „Netto Vario“ signals into the VAM readings. If your installation is not perfect (= AHRS won’t work very accurately) or if you prefer not to use the new data but like your old fashioned netto better (with gust induced energy changes), then you can set it to 50% to mix it or even 0%. The standard setup is 100%, that means 0 conventional and 100% AHRS based data. We are very confident in this new technology and its fun to use. We don’t use just some Accel/Gyro data and mix them in some way to tell people its cool. Actually most users fly with 100%. Instantaneous wind makes a huge difference to your flying, even if not flying in mountainous regions where the advantages are obvious. The new wind indication helps you to locate thermals or convergences in flatland areas as it reacts to smallest local airflow/wind differences. We have come a long way bringing this technology to the market and making it available to many pilots in different aircraft. We have had quite some troubles in the beginning, but this is not unusual. If you want to bring new technologies to the market , you must know about the pain you will go through initially. We are thrilled by the possibilities the system offers and love flying with it, our customers do so, too. *Something you don’t have to write in the forum but its obvious:* Old technology vario manufacturers love to tell people that it does not help you flying or does not work. Now that its proven to work (ask people flying with it) they love to tell people how difficult it is to install it. I must admit that installation requires good care and some hours worth of time. But fly with one, you will see that its worth it. Cheers Marc -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New Varios and a new thread
Hi Matthew, I'll see if I can find a reference. Seems like Sam Gisiger from Triadis (Altair/Vega fame) , who builds the Butterfly vario has cracked the nut many manufacturers have been trying to for years. He's a clever guy. Cheers Mark On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Matthew Scutter yellowplant...@gmail.comwrote: The algorithms we use are based on years (literally) of research and part of a doctor thesis. Was this published somewhere? It'd be interesting to read. On 26 May 2014 10:12, Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au wrote: A response from Butterfly's Marc Forderer via Swift Avionics. Dear Mike and Bernard Both of you wrote us the same forum post. We would prefer not getting involved into forums discussions. Her’s the (short-ish) answer. We are using AHRS computed data to determine airflow around the aircraft in realtime. We do this using our inertial platform inside our sensor unit. The algorithms we use are based on years (literally) of research and part of a doctor thesis. The horizontal component is wind, the vertical is what we call vertical air mass“ (VAM). The advantage of this new computation method is that horizontal energy addition (in gusts) does not have influence on VAM readings. We have a mixing method that allows the user to blend in normal pressure sensor (TEK) based „Netto Vario“ signals into the VAM readings. If your installation is not perfect (= AHRS won’t work very accurately) or if you prefer not to use the new data but like your old fashioned netto better (with gust induced energy changes), then you can set it to 50% to mix it or even 0%. The standard setup is 100%, that means 0 conventional and 100% AHRS based data. We are very confident in this new technology and its fun to use. We don’t use just some Accel/Gyro data and mix them in some way to tell people its cool. Actually most users fly with 100%. Instantaneous wind makes a huge difference to your flying, even if not flying in mountainous regions where the advantages are obvious. The new wind indication helps you to locate thermals or convergences in flatland areas as it reacts to smallest local airflow/wind differences. We have come a long way bringing this technology to the market and making it available to many pilots in different aircraft. We have had quite some troubles in the beginning, but this is not unusual. If you want to bring new technologies to the market , you must know about the pain you will go through initially. We are thrilled by the possibilities the system offers and love flying with it, our customers do so, too. *Something you don’t have to write in the forum but its obvious:* Old technology vario manufacturers love to tell people that it does not help you flying or does not work. Now that its proven to work (ask people flying with it) they love to tell people how difficult it is to install it. I must admit that installation requires good care and some hours worth of time. But fly with one, you will see that its worth it. Cheers Marc -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 3.
How about Tedius On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Nice list, Anthony. Some of the words have been used for non Schempp gliders. How about Aeolus, Keeper of the Winds in Greek mythology? Carol suggests Claytus - the name you have when you aren't having a naming competition. Mike At 07:54 AM 14/05/2014, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0019_01CF6F45.9BE1D950 Content-Language: en-au A list of possible suspects http://www.morewords.com/ends-with/us/ *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netaus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Jim Staniforth *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 May 2014 12:40 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 3. Still hoping it will be Lingus. Pez D. Spencer Sailplane Racer cartoons at: http://archive.soaravenal.com/Pez.htm Jim On 5/13/2014 7:07 AM, Redmond Quinn wrote: et tu Brutus Redmond From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.netaus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Scutter Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2014 10:29 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 3. How about Senarus (latin..ish for sixth), which comes after Quintus (latin for fifth). On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Mark Newton new...@atdot.dotat.org wrote: Bolus. - mark On May 13, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Adam I'Anson adam.ian...@gmail.com wrote: The Dingus Regards, Adam I'Anson On 13 May 2014, at 6:59 pm, Matthew Scutter yellowplant...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt die tritus would fly in german. On 13 May 2014 17:25, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: At 07:32 AM 13/05/2014, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0031_01CF6E7D.7732D0A0 Content-Language: en-au The Bogus? Love it! However there seem to be multiple reports from different sources that the new glider will happen sooner rather than later. I was told that one dealer ordered 8 of them. I wouldn't expect an 18/21/23 though as that might cut into the Quintus and would leave them without a new 15m glider. BTW what exactly is the Ventus 2axS that Tilo is flying in the GP? Anyway my bet on the new name is Tritus. Maybe Tertius is better Latin but doesn't read or sound as well. Maybe an outside chance for Volus? I guess we'll see. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring *Borgelt Instruments* - *design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 * www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au
Re: [Aus-soaring] I have zero memory these days
Just one goat? On Friday, March 14, 2014, Justin Sinclair jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Must be dementia, I can't believe that you sat up at the Kingaroy bar and promised to fund a new lnav package into the Astir and now you pretend to forget, guess you have forgotten about the business class tickets to the worlds for the whole team. Just as well we have that picky of you and the goat :) J Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.aujavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au'); Sent from my iPad On 13 Mar 2014, at 9:16 pm, Christopher McDonnell wommamuku...@bigpond.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wommamuku...@bigpond.com'); wrote: You have Someteimers Ian. Sometimes you remember and sometimes you don't. wlEmoticon-smile[1].png Chris *From:* Ian Mc Phee javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mrsoar...@gmail.com'); *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:57 PM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net'); *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] I have zero memory these days To all If you send me an instrument for something PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add a note with the following. 1 the faults 2 what seems to be working OK to you 3 Your mobile number 4 Your address 5 Your name written on the instrument. AND when sending in PLEASE send either send EXPRESS POST OR SIGNATURE ON RECEIPT by me. I am old and have zero memory these days beyond 12 hours so if no note is included it tends to sit there for 3 weeks till I get around to doing it. I really should add $20 to the bill if no note is included. Remember an LNAV or GPS-NAV logger is now 20 years old but I usually can fix them but I ask you the question How many electronic devices do you own that are 20 years old - not many I suspect. With Winter varios etc I totally recommend they go back to Achim Winter each 20 years for a service and really they are better than new when they come back.. . Ian McPhee 0428847642 PS Am I grumpy? Box 657 Byron Bay 2481 -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net'); To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net'); To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] GFA Website
I have been trying to open the shared google docs folders from the GFA website. Airworthiness- Forms. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Do I need to log on to the GFA site to get access. If so, where is the login link?? I can see the folder . Just cannot open it. Anyone have any clues?? -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Avionics Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/ http://www.spe.com.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Website
Thanks for the advice thus far. I am having same issue in Chrome and Firefox (dont use IE) any ideas? Cookies tec?? Cheers mark On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Tim Shirley tshir...@internode.on.netwrote: Mark, You don't need to log in. It is best not to use Internet Explorer. Contact me off list please. Cheers *Tim Shirley* *tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare* On 10/03/2014 11:17, Mark Fisher wrote: I have been trying to open the shared google docs folders from the GFA website. Airworthiness- Forms. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Do I need to log on to the GFA site to get access. If so, where is the login link?? I can see the folder . Just cannot open it. Anyone have any clues?? -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Avionics Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/ http://www.spe.com.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing listaus-soar...@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Altair, Volklogger and B50 Vario for sale
Bernard, You know where to find me.. Cheers Mark On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.netwrote: Good morning all Because I'm considering upgrading to a new flight computer system the following items are offered for sale: 1. Altair moving map display with XCSoar software (Asking price $ 1000) 2. Borgelt audio vario (B50) with second display for back seat. (one vario 57mm and the other 80 mm diameter) (Asking price $ 400) 3. Volkslogger data logger (Asking price $ 250) All items are guaranteed to be in perfect working order. For serious enquiries please contact me off line. (ec...@internode.on.net) Kind regards Bernard Eckey Ph. 08 84492871 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Super Ximango for sale
Contact me off list if interested Mark at swiftavionics dot com dot au 1996 model. Only 500hrs engine and airframe. Fresh Form 2. Wings just refinished. Make me an offer I can't refuse.!!! Cheers Mark -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Australian Airspace file
Fellow pilots, We are looking for an up-to date Australian Airspace file in either OpenAir or CUB format. Can someone supply a URL or even a valid Airspace file ?? Cheers Mark -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Avionics Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/ http://www.spe.com.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] European transport
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[Aus-soaring] Club vario-continued
Guys, Just received advise that LXNAV have sold 500 units of V7 vario in last two years. There must be a good reason. ?? When you consider that Seeyou and LX NAV as companies, are very closely aligned, you will understand why the Oudie/V7 combination has been such a great success . Of course the interface is seamless, AND, you are not committed to Seeyou Mobile as the Oudie can also run XCSoar. One small thing..a V7 and Oudie running Seeyou mobile is a FULLY SUPPORTED combination. When you run XCSoar you accept the niggles of open source. Food for thought. Cheers Mark -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Club vario-continued
Hi Scott, I agree! I use lots of open source software. However , a large proportion of our aging population of glider pilots do struggle with interfacing from a long list of 'compatible' tablets and their vario of choice. Baud rates, data packet construction , serial, bluetooth, etc etc is not something they want to worry about. Ask me how I know! Of course for those with the technical savvy and a willingness to participate, open source is a good solution. Cheers Mark On Friday, 18 October 2013, Scott Penrose wrote: On 18/10/2013, at 5:27 PM, Mark Fisher wrote: When you run XCSoar you accept the niggles of open source. Food for thought. I really have no comment on how XCSoar runs on the Oudie, never seen or done it. But the comment is about out of line for open source. What phone do you use? Is Android more niggly than iOS? Maybe. What about Chrome vs IE? Open Office vs Office? Firefox? List could go on for a few pages in 8 point font. Quality of projects, installation, documentation and usability is not based on whether it is open source or not. Of course there is a lot more open source software, so you get more of all types :-) Scott -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] B 800 vario suitable for a club glider?
Guys, Dont forget about the great products from LX NAV. Connect to any Tablet, or PDA you like. Have a look at the LX V7 on our website. http://store.swiftavionics.com.au/v7-vario/ What more could you want? Cheers Mark On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Yes but you do have to read the manual. About 6 pages is relevant to operation. It helps if pilots and instructors actually understand cross country theory which hasn't changed in the 60 or so years since it was properly worked out. Our varios are designed on the basis of cross country theory and provide the all information you need to implement it. Any club glider used for cross country or cross country training needs a vario like this if your mission is to train XC capable pilots. DDSC and Kingaroy have club gliders equipped with B500s and B800s. The B800 is a B500 with a log scale and many small improvements. B500 owners may have their B500s modified to B800 or B600 (linear scale - replaces B500) standard. We also make instruments (B300, B400, B700, B900) suitable as backups or for gliders whose mission is primary training or local soaring. These implement some or all of the climb mode features of the B500/B600/B800. Here's what an aerospace industry professional who worked in cockpit design had to say about the B500/B600/B800 (it was an unsolicited opinion in a reply solicited by another manufacturer). When it comes to deciding to leave a thermal, the Borgelt is exceptional - never look down, the LEDs give you what you need. As you straighten out, averager/integrator numbers are just out of line of sight on the Glareshield Controller and Display, and its knob is ready to accept your MacCready command. As the glide progresses the Borgelt's performance Index guide to bugs settings is quick and easy. In the glide, the Borgelt's LED speed cues again mean no need to look down. and A B500 with GCD was the last nav/vario I flew behind regularly and, truly, my favourite overall. The combination of the GCD and bright LEDs gave me what I needed without spending time 'head-down'. I am expecting the Brand X audio to be like the Borgelt B500, but without the cleverly thought out duty cycle changes and peripherally visible bright LEDs that give me the information I need in a different way. You can send the data to a colour moving map. SeeYou Mobile, WinPilot, XCSoar and LK8000 support data input from the B800 (or B600 which is the same but with linear display and even B50s). However, the B800 has an internal glide/nav/wind computer which works very well (including around a turnpoint) so the colour map is mainly useful for a task overview with AATs, airspace boundaries and maybe Flarm overview. You really should not need to do much more than zoom and unzoom the display. Our glide algorithms have a long successful history going back to the B25 glide computer in 1982. We're working on improvements and upgrades to the B800 software all the time. There will be another for the GCD shortly. The last one implemented the ability to take the card out of the GCD at briefing and put the task for the day on one of the databases (there are 10) and step through the start and turnpoints with one button push at a time without scrolling. *Dynamis, * the long sought after Total Energy vario without sensitivity to horizontal gusts is in the final stages of development (it certainly works - we've shown that) and will be able to be added to the B600 and B800. This will be a must have for serious competition pilots. Mike Could anyone with experience using a Borgelt B 800 vario advise if it's suitable for use in a club glider? thanks, Greg. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ** ** *Borgelt Instruments* - *design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 * www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784** **overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784** **: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] B 800 vario suitable for a club glider?
Ha!! On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: A B800. Mike At 11:15 AM 18/10/2013, you wrote: Guys, Dont forget about the great products from LX NAV. Connect to any Tablet, or PDA you like. Have a look at the LX V7 on our website. http://store.swiftavionics.com.au/v7-vario/ What more could you want? Cheers Mark On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: Yes but you do have to read the manual. About 6 pages is relevant to operation. It helps if pilots and instructors actually understand cross country theory which hasn't changed in the 60 or so years since it was properly worked out. Our varios are designed on the basis of cross country theory and provide the all information you need to implement it. Any club glider used for cross country or cross country training needs a vario like this if your mission is to train XC capable pilots. DDSC and Kingaroy have club gliders equipped with B500s and B800s. The B800 is a B500 with a log scale and many small improvements. B500 owners may have their B500s modified to B800 or B600 (linear scale - replaces B500) standard. We also make instruments (B300, B400, B700, B900) suitable as backups or for gliders whose mission is primary training or local soaring. These implement some or all of the climb mode features of the B500/B600/B800. Here's what an aerospace industry professional who worked in cockpit design had to say about the B500/B600/B800 (it was an unsolicited opinion in a reply solicited by another manufacturer). When it comes to deciding to leave a thermal, the Borgelt is exceptional - never look down, the LEDs give you what you need. As you straighten out, averager/integrator numbers are just out of line of sight on the Glareshield Controller and Display, and its knob is ready to accept your MacCready command. As the glide progresses the Borgelt's performance Index guide to bugs settings is quick and easy. In the glide, the Borgelt's LED speed cues again mean no need to look down. and A B500 with GCD was the last nav/vario I flew behind regularly and, truly, my favourite overall. The combination of the GCD and bright LEDs gave me what I needed without spending time 'head-down'. I am expecting the Brand X audio to be like the Borgelt B500, but without the cleverly thought out duty cycle changes and peripherally visible bright LEDs that give me the information I need in a different way. You can send the data to a colour moving map. SeeYou Mobile, WinPilot, XCSoar and LK8000 support data input from the B800 (or B600 which is the same but with linear display and even B50s). However, the B800 has an internal glide/nav/wind computer which works very well (including around a turnpoint) so the colour map is mainly useful for a task overview with AATs, airspace boundaries and maybe Flarm overview. You really should not need to do much more than zoom and unzoom the display. Our glide algorithms have a long successful history going back to the B25 glide computer in 1982. We're working on improvements and upgrades to the B800 software all the time. There will be another for the GCD shortly. The last one implemented the ability to take the card out of the GCD at briefing and put the task for the day on one of the databases (there are 10) and step through the start and turnpoints with one button push at a time without scrolling. Dynamis, the long sought after Total Energy vario without sensitivity to horizontal gusts is in the final stages of development (it certainly works - we've shown that) and will be able to be added to the B600 and B800. This will be a must have for serious competition pilots. Mike Could anyone with experience using a Borgelt B 800 vario advise if it's suitable for use in a club glider? thanks, Greg. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au [image: []] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http
Re: [Aus-soaring] OzFlarm wanted
MiniOz !
On Saturday, 21 September 2013, Brian Du Rieu wrote:
Hi all,
I am in need of an OzFlarm for the forthcoming soaring season. If anyone
has a servicable and operating device for sale *or* alternatively for
rent to the end of FEB 2014 please let me know ASAP.
I'll pay all shipping.
Best regards,
Brian DuRieu (Kingaroy SC)
Ph.: 0439-598 046
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Linking to Flarm
Beware. Ozflarm and minioz are NOT adjustable, even though Flarmtool
indicates it might be.
Cheers
Mark Fisher (SWIFT AVIONICS)
On Friday, September 20, 2013, Mark Goodley wrote:
The flarm is set to 19200 already.
If you need to adjust the flarm you just need to download flarmtool
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So do I need to connect the flarm to a PC to configure it, or is that
the default setting?
If the former, what software is needed to connect to the flarm?
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Just make sure the baud rate on the oudie is set to 19200 and the input
port is changed to serial cable on the oudie
Mark
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I would like to link my Oudie to an oz-flarm using the supplied converter
cable.
Does the Flarm need to be configured in any way (ie to send data and nav
info), and if so, how?
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Contact lenses, laser surgery etc
Guys, Have a look at zennioptical.com You will fall of your chair when you learn how cheap glasses can be. All you need is your prescription. 1. upload your smiling face to the site, 2. try on some frames, and 3. buy the ones you want. Delivery is about 10-15 days They will do Distance, reading, bifocal, multifocal. They have an online chat service to assist if required. Straight reading glasses need a bit of massaging of the script values, but zenni will help with this. What they dont have is a high quality sunglasses, but they will sell you a cheap polarized clip on for $6 Cheers Mark On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Bernie Baer bb...@internode.on.netwrote: Hi DMcD, thanks for the comments. However, as stated in the first sentence of my original post, I already have bifocal sunglasses, and they work very well. I am always acutely aware of the fact that should I lose them, break them, drop them in the drink, etc. etc. I am up for an expensive replacement and a long wait for same. The conversation with my friend re laser surgery prompted me to investigate contact lenses as my thinking was that perhaps I could wear multifocal contacts (or even bifocal contacts) and use off the shelf sunglasses when flying, driving and fishing. Thus should any of the afore mentioned misfortunes occur, I could simply buy/borrow/beg/steal another set of sunglasses at short notice. I have an appointment with a local optometrist who is a member of the Cornea and Contact lens Society of Australia so maybe they can assess my vision and come up with a suitable product, we will see. As far as laser surgery goes, the option most suitable for me (monovision) is apparently not suitable for pilots as it reduces depth perception so I have ruled that out. Regards, Bernie. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS tracking GSM
Hi Scott, What are they proposing to do with Flarm? On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Scott Penrose sco...@dd.com.au wrote: Another popular GSM Tracking is here: http://www.skylines-project.org/ It already has many devices integrated and well tested in Europe. I am adding SPOT to the mix, and there is another person adding FLARM. Should be a pretty complete solution. As for interference - totally agree with Simon. Probably risk mitigation rather than actual issue. Phones cause problems but you generally have to be VERY close. GPS also causes problems. They all interfere with each other a little. Test, keep separate, shielded, don't put aerials next to each other - pretty common sense stuff. Scott On 02/07/2013, at 1:19 PM, Simon Hackett wrote: Frankly, if the FLARM is impacted by signals outside of its normal operating frequency that suggests a problem with the FLARM that needs fixing on the FLARM side. The unit should be rejecting signals outside of the flarm radio operating frequency. And, lo and behold, see the information under the heading 'PowerFLARM Portable Recall' on this page: http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/flarm.htm On 02/07/2013, at 10:42 AM, Stuart Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Given that there is a warning about mobile phones interfering with Flarm signals does a GSM based tracking device have a place in a glider? Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 On 02/07/2013, at 10:49, Mal Bruce m...@mals.net wrote: Good Morning website is up auzzie server coming soon. If anyone is looking for GSM GPS tracking for crew, vehicles or glider http://www.meitrack.asia We also do M2M accounts only available to ABN holders http://www.meitrack.asia/m2m www.ms02.meitrack.asia | www.obd.meitrack.asia | www.free.meitrack.asia Regard's Mal Bruce M +61 411 196 255 V +61 2 9037 9090 IP CONFIG Telstra Dealer 123 ICT 2142 Cert III in Transport Distribution Cert IV in Information Technology Website Management Production Diploma in Subway Systems Certificate Skid Steer Loader Excavator Certificate I in Construction (Whitecard) Authorised Bus Driver HR Drivers Licence GFPT (Pilots Licence) Skype: malbrucey m...@mals.net www.mals.net www.ipconfig.com.au www.vdvr.com.au Bug Disco PTY LTD ABN: 86 153 652 718 IP CONFIG ABN: 28 830 390 772 PO BOX 6117 The Oaks NSW 2570 Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 36076277 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Could these be Blanik bits??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Lot-Schweitzer-Blanik-unknown-GLIDER-PARTS-New-Unused-/230985076785?hash=item35c7c89031item=230985076785pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gearvxp=mtr -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ASW20's
Sure, Put Sebastian Kawa in one of them, and anyone else in the rest, and see the results. Cheers Mark On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Adam Woolley go_soar...@hotmail.com wrote: If four ASW20's, one of each variant (a, b, c, f) were put in perfect in flight test flying factory conditions - all with the same reference weight of 400kg. Which one would out perform the other? Or, would they all perform identically? Keen to hear reasoning if one knows the answer (I don't, hence the Q). Cheers, WPP ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FLARM-IGC flight recorders - security update and revised IGC-approval
This upgrade is not necessary for ozflarm or miniOz as they do not have IGC approval to the same level as Swiss IGC approved Flarms. I.e there is no security check on Australian devices. Cheers Mark On Tuesday, 19 February 2013, Geoff Vincent wrote: Hi Pam, The current thread is focused on the software upgrade for the FLARM-IGC device. In the Flarm website software download section it refers to all devices. Can you please confirm whether the v5.08 upgrade is applicable/necessary for Oz-Flarm units. Regards, Geoff V At 08:17 AM 18/02/2013, you wrote: FLARM-IGC flight recorders - security update and revised IGC-approval A significant update to the GPS Flight Recorder function of FLARM-IGC units is now available. Owners are advised to incorporate this as soon as possible. It is available through a web download, see below. FLARM-IGC owners may recall that in 2012, software appeared on the web from an unknown source that enabled false Flarm-IGC files to be produced that passed the IGC electronic validation check. To counter this, a security update to Firmware Version 5.8 is now available via: www.flarm.com/support/updates/**index_en.htmlhttp://www.flarm.com/support/updates/index_en.html and click on flarm_508fw on the right hand side of the page to download this file. This file will update a FLARM-IGC unit to Firmware 5.08 standard using the standard FLARM update procedure (via a micro-SD card or a PC-based update). Note that an update to the Flarmtool utilities program incorporating V5.08 is also available by clicking Installation V5.08 on the right hand side of the same web page. ** Important Note ** Owners should note that the IGC-approval for earlier versions of Firmware (from V4.0 to V5.6) will be withdrawn on 30 April 2013. This is to ensure that the possibility of false IGC files being produced using the malicious software referred to above, is eliminated. A revised IGC-approval document is available on the IGC and GFAC web pages: www.ukiws.demon.co.uk/GFAC/**approvals/flarm-igc.pdfhttp://www.ukiws.demon.co.uk/GFAC/approvals/flarm-igc.pdf or www.fai.org/gnss-recording-**devices/igc-approved-flight-**recordershttp://www.fai.org/gnss-recording-devices/igc-approved-flight-recorders For electronic validation of IGC files produced with V5.8 firmware, use either the latest Flarmtool program (see above) or the free IGC Shell program together with the latest Flarm DLL file which is named IGC-FLA2.DLL to differentiate it from the earlier file IGC-FLA.DLL. For the IGC Shell program and DLL files, including the new IGC-FLA2.DLL, see: www.ukiws.demon.co.uk/GFAC/**downloads.htmhttp://www.ukiws.demon.co.uk/GFAC/downloads.htm or www.fai.org/gnss-recording-**devices/free-softwarehttp://www.fai.org/gnss-recording-devices/free-software The above may seem complex, but Flarm owners are used to making regular updates that in the past have been to optimise the Flarm Traffic Avoidance and warning system. The difference with this update is that it increases the electronic security both of the Flight Recorder facility and of future downloaded IGC files. In view of the important of this security update, please give this announcement publicity so that current owners and users of FLARM-IGC units are aware of it, and its implications. The Flarm company are doing likewise through their normal channels of communication to Flarm owners, gliding software producers and OLC organisers. -- Ian Strachan Chairman IGC GFA Committee __**_ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/**mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring __**_ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/**mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Who is the lucky one?
Hi guys, We have just implemented a new shopping cart at www.swiftavionics.com.au The following coupon code will work ONCE, giving the user 15% discount on any product over $100. Just type it in when you are paying. So if you are looking to buy and want to help us test the new shopping cart, place an order today and save 15% on what ever you purchase. Coupon Number UDJWK61SDD Expires in 1 week. Cheers Mark -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Avionics Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/ http://www.spe.com.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Swift Coupon - Who is the lucky one?
Just a short note to clear up a question from a subscriber. The coupon number will work ONCE for ONE person. Cheers Mark -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Avionics Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/ http://www.spe.com.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
And your Flarm Alarm??? Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone coming the other way ? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote: I do sometimes if I get a good run. Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental tunes that I thought might be good. Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio. Kindest Regards Grant Davies m. 0419 818 315 f. 07 41 54 14 36 e. gr...@davies.id.au -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? Hi all, I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for your CD player, ipod etc. Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to music while soaring? What music is it, or what would it be if you did? Cheers, Ben ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
Not a problem when you are 30 years of age Tom. Get an old set of ears and see how you go. For me, I'd like to think pilots are flying their gliders with all their OWN instruments focused on the job, especially when they are anywhere near me. If it truly enhanced flying ability every comp pilot in the world would be 'plugged in'. Somehow I don't think you'll find too many admit to doing this. How would you feel about your instructor plugging his Ipod into his head while training because it increased his focus ? If you were working for me, your IPOD would be elsewhere. ..Just a grumpy old man talking I suspect. What's your aircraft Rego?? I'll keep an eye out for it. Cheers Mark On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:05 PM, tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote: I also listen to a bit of music during cross country flights It seems to make me more focused for whatever reason (I also listen to an iPod at work where it has the same effect). I listen to a pretty wide range, though nothing too pumping. Should also mention that it is never even close to being loud enough to block out any outside noise. I can still hear vario (which I like very quiet) and flarm with ease. Tom - Original Message - From: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To: gr...@davies.id.au, Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.onnet Cc: Sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:45:57 +1000 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? And your Flarm Alarm??? Good run?? Under a cloud street.someone coming the other way ? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote: I do sometimes if I get a good run. Just random music for me. I did just get some flamenco kind of instrumental tunes that I thought might be good. Have to remember not to have it to loud though so you can hear the radio. Kindest Regards Grant Davies m 0419 818 315 f. 07 41 54 14 36 e. gr...@davies.id.au -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of bcole...@xstratacoal.com.au Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:52 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying? Hi all, I'm about to wire in a new transceiver and note it has an audio input for your CD player, ipod etc. Which got me wonderingdo any of you listen to music while soaring? What music is it, or what would it be if you did? Cheers, Ben ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://listsinternode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight Safety
Picture this.my company imported 400 battery packs, each with 5 x AAA 900mAh cells in series with a red and black wire emerging from under the green heatshrink that encapsulates the pack. My Chinese supplier did not terminated the wires, just stripped them all 6mm and tinned the ends. Then, they threw them all in a box, no insulation with all those ends floating about together. Damned if I know why there was not a fire!! Cheers Mark On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Simon Hackett si...@internode.com.auwrote: How does the old saying go? Most generalisations are in accurate, including this one For what its worth, I've airfreighted 6831 lithium ion batteries (charged) in the belly of 747's across the Pacific multiple times in the last few years. They were wrapped up in a Tesla Roadster - which has permission to be freighted in this way because its installation is highly safe and actively controlled. My understanding is that the source of thermal runaway here is related to loose batteries shorting out in transit - which would certainly be a bad thing (noting that I've not read the issue concerned as yet as the CASA carrier pigeon does not yet appear to have reached my office). My point here, in practice, is that there is a distinction between LiIon arrays that are hard wired into operational units under active control, versus loose batteries (or batteries that can become loose) that aren't actually being conditioned by active circuits. I guess point is that saying that the article below implies that its unsafe to run LiIon in your wings is a bit disingenuous without pointing out that the energy stored in them is a tiny fraction of the energy stored in an equivalent volume of 100LL or Jet A1 sitting in the wings of an aircraft. The destructive potential of the latter dwarfs that of the former, and yet, surprisingly, I find that we still seem to commit aviation in aircraft powered by such a dangerous energy source as liquid fuel regardless of the manifest risks. Once your wind full of 100LL is burning, its also a tad harder to stop it burning than it is to disconnect a battery. Strange world, isn't it. Everyone has their agenda, and seems happy to find evidence to fit their presumption of the outcome before doing the analysis (and I do not claim that I am an exception in this regard, being human). Simon On 04/03/2011, at 12:30 PM, DMcD wrote: The latest issue of the CAA Flight Safety comic has just arrived. There's a fun article on Lithium Batteries The Cargo from Hell. The headline says Lithium batteries are emerging as a 21st century aviation hazard. Fun reading for electro-power enthusiasts. Probably best not to store them anywhere important… like in your wings. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] price reduction
Yep, the Aussie dollar is good reason for a price adjustment at Swift Avionics also. Swiss Flarms prices, and ClearNav are thru the floor, and there have been price reductions with Altair as well as most imported products. We have all prices posted on the website www.swiftavionics.com.au Cheers Mark On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: All too often there are price increases so it is welcome news that the EW Avionics Microrecorder is now available at a substantial price reduction. Call us for details. National Parachutes advises that prices will be held for 2011 so with the strong Aussie dollar now is a good time to buy a new parachute. There has been some simplification of the range and options offered so call for details. Also watch for announcements on our website. Early 2011 will see some exciting new products launched by Borgelt Instruments. Yeah its raining right now, AGAIN, still. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Ventus cM for sale
I have just dropped my old advertised price for my Ventus Cm 17.6 from $110K to $95K. It's a self launcher, 17.6m , mini winglets, Fully refinished, and only 5hrs on the overhauled Solo engine. Have just moved Swift AVionics to Brisbane Complete with Cobra Trailer. New advert to appear in Next months SA. Surely there is a good home for VH-VCM out there? Lng legs and does NOT have the difficult handling older Ventus A and B's are renown for . Lets talk turkeyready to meet the market. Cheers Mark -- Please Take NoteOur New Address and contact details Mark Fisher Managing Director Swif tAvionics Unit 2, 1472 Boundary Rd Wacol 4076 Australia Ph: +61 7 3879 3005 Fax: +61 7 3879 4005 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ADS-B for RC models?
but why? On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.netwrote: Good morning all I can't help but admire the bloke who built this model! It has got a wingspan of 13.4 meter - about the same span as the World Class glider. Kind regards to all! Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation
Guys, Swift Avionics will be the Australian agent for PowerFlarm. Will advertise when it's ready to sell. Cheers Mark On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:02 PM, John Welsh jwe...@arach.net.au wrote: PowerFLARM doesn’t appear to provide ADSB Out only ADSB In. *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Simon Hackett *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2010 4:02 PM *To:* Mal Bruce; AUS Soaring *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation Hello Mal (et al), That device already exists. Its called a PowerFLARM: http://www.butterfly.aero/powerflarm/fly/ and/or http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/traffic-monitor.htm This looks like its just about to go into full production. Note that its quoted as being able to run for 8 hours on six AA batteries (or from a glider battery, obviously, as an alternative). i.e. presumably the current draw isn't unreasonable. That doesn't magically solve the economic question, but it does suggest that the actual technology you require here (along with a Mode-S transponder, I guess) is certainly available (or nearly so). I must say that I find the notion of a combination Flarm and ADS-B to be highly appealing as a safety tool. Its eye-opening (literally) to see the thing the ADS-B in my Cirrus picks up before I see them out of the window. Regards, Simon On 26/11/2010, at 6:00 PM, Mal Bruce wrote: Could flarm and ADSB run on a single unit I recall having discussion with Nigel about this how about your expert opinion? Personally I 100% support technology being used for collision avoidance the cost of the units and current battery technology is minimal and the shared cost per aircraft far out weighs the cost of one life. I am sure that negotiated properly some costs could be shared by GFA and the federal government CASA after all they want “safe sky’s for all”! Mal *CASA Discussion Paper Response - Urgent Action Required* To: GFA Members, Gliding Clubs and Regional Gliding Associations *Urgent Action Required* See the response by *ASAC to CASA*http://GFA.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0yOTU5MTQmcD0xJnU9NTAxNzk0NzQ5JmxpPTEzNTEzMTk/index.htmlrelating to *Discussion Paper 1006AS*http://GFA.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0yOTU5MTQmcD0xJnU9NTAxNzk0NzQ5JmxpPTEzNTEzMjA/index.html * * In a nutshell, it proposes to mandate universal fitting of ADSB and Mode S to all aircraft for use in all classifications of airspace. This is completely unacceptable to sport aviation generally and gliding particularly. The GFA will be submitting a response which will express similar views to those of ASAC. It is important that as many responses as possible are submitted expressing concerns about the proposal and at the very least expressing strong support for the ASAC submission. Submissions can be made easily by individuals and club representatives via CASA website ***Response to Regulatory Change Proposal*http://GFA.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0yOTU5MTQmcD0xJnU9NTAxNzk0NzQ5JmxpPTEzNTEzMjE/index.html **. Detailed individual responses would be preferred but a response which just expresses dissatisfaction with CASA's consultation and then notes for each item that changes would make it acceptable, with a final comment supporting the ASAC paper will at least get the message across. It would greatly assist our position if each organisation can ensure a response on their behalf before 30 November and encourage all individual members to do the same. Apologies for the short notice. Phil McCann President ATT1..txt -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3278 - Release Date: 11/25/10 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation
Robert , It is my belief that PowerFlarm is also externally powered via a standard Flarm Port. Mark On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au wrote: On 26/11/10 18:02, Simon Hackett wrote: Hello Mal (et al), That device already exists. Its called a PowerFLARM: http://www.butterfly.aero/powerflarm/fly/ and/or http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/traffic-monitor.htm As far as I can see, powerflarm provides only ADS-B in - that is it does not transmit. Furthermore, 6 AA batteries have significantly limited capacity and certainly not enough to maintain continuous transmission for several hours that is capable of full line of sight reception. I don't know what the power requirements of an ADS-B out unit are, but they must be significantly more than that provided by 6 AA batteries! -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Wanted: used Tasman V1000 or Borgelt B40/57mm
Ilec? On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Jim Staniforth staniforth...@yahoo.comwrote: Looking for a backup vario. Jim ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: [Xcsoar-user] Altair and XCSoar 6.0
Robert, I would also like to convey my thanks to Triadis for acting in this way after several telephone calls from Swift Avionics over the last 10 days encouraging them to do so. Cheers Mark On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au wrote: Hi folks Just thought the many Altai owners would like to hear this. I'd also like to publicly thank Triadis for providing the equipment to make this possible. Original Message Subject: [Xcsoar-user] Altair and XCSoar 6.0 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 18:13:05 +0200 From: Max Kellermann m...@duempel.org m...@duempel.org To: xcsoar-u...@lists.sourceforge.net Hi, good news for Altair owners: Triadis has supplied me with an Altair for development, it has arrived today. It came with XCSoar 6.0_alpha1 installed. John is back to XCSoar development, Scott has also stated he will help with the Altair; that makes 3 XCSoar developers (outside of Triadis) who will support the XCSoar on Altair. I will check what is left to do before I can offer a public build of XCSoar 6.0 (alpha/beta) for Altair. Watch out for announcements! Max -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Xcsoar-user mailing listxcsoar-u...@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcsoar-user ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] XCSoar and the Altair
(it is open source software), but it appears they are not even prepared to do this (or pay someone to do it. Now - if I am wrong about this (I don't think I am) please point me at the info that shows Altair is being supported in the latest version of XCSoar. Alternatively, if you are using the Altair hardware I strongly urge you to write to Triadis and Swift Avionics expressing your concern and asking them to provide a definitive answer as to WHEN they are going to update XCSoar for the Altair. -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place!
I am biased as this is a new product for us but if something like this www.dittolog.com was available in the past, we'd know everything about how an aircraft was operatedone or two pilots, winch, aerotow, self launch, heavy landings , aerobaticsthe lot. Cheers Mark On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:41 PM, JR jma99...@bigpond.net.au wrote: I dont think the hours on an airframe mean diddly, its how its been treated while its in the air, and for that matter on the ground,the only useful purpose of time is to perform scheduled maintenance, and life on components.If you fly something outside the manufacturers design envelope, then there is a high possibility that something will break. It would seem that some countries fly the Blanik like it is a Fox, as good a trainer the Blanik is, it is not a Fox. regards JR - Original Message - From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place! At 03:46 PM 8/09/2010, you wrote: Of course all sailplanes not used commercially should have the option of Experimental Sure they should but maybe we could change the name to something which doesn't sound like doing tests on small furry animals. I can't see my other half of certificated nervous disposition getting into a plane with Experimental plastered all over it, but dress it up in some aviation acronym nonsense like INCERFA and I'm your man. Over here DIY aviation is in theory not so bad because we can indulge in a big paddock policy where the chances of some part of your glider falling off and smiting a farmer (or worse one of our heroic miners) in a field are very small.\ D I did say OPTION. If you or yours feel safer in a certified aircraft, by all means feel free to fly only in them. Al is right. The purpose of the sign is to let people know what they are getting in to. My Experimental homebuilt also has the required Persons flying in this aircraft do so at their own risk. CASA does not set safety standards for Experimental aircraft placard where passengers and other crew can see it. My other half just straps on her parachute, straps in, rehearses her emergency egress drill and says let's go flying. The Blanik in Austria that lost a wing recently had only 2300 hours and was presumably maintained to certified standards though. When someone on the ground is injured by an aircraft it is far more likely to be from a certified airliner crashing into a city or suburbs as has happened many times in the past. The accident in Hungary was really quite an unusual occurrence. I won't comment further on that now. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Grounded Blanik L13's
Speaking of queue jumping. What about a beautiful Centrair C201 Marianne two seater for your club? Fixed gear, no flaps 18.8m..Around 1900hrs total, Brand New enclosed Trailer. 40:1 glass ship, a great X country trainer and beautiful to fly It's a very docile ship to fly. contact me via Swift Avionics website. Cheers Mark On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Gary Stevenson gst...@dodo.com.au wrote: Hi Guys, Replacing the Blanik is indeed an option. The Grampians Soaring Club has their (relatively), low hours IS28B2 for sale, as it is surplus to our requirements. It is in good condition and comes complete with a recently finished open trailer. It will be advertised in the September issue of Soaring Australia, but if you want to jump the queue, contact me off line - gst...@dodo.com.au Alternatively phone me on 03 5352 4938 (H/W). Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Kenneth Jason Caldwell kencaldw...@optusnet.com.au To: k...@riverland.net.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Grounded Blanik L13's On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 09:24 +0930, Kym Z wrote: Hi all, As you'd all know, Blaniks (unless they have the Llewelyn mod, and unless they comply with the limited -but badly worded criteria from the factory on the AD) are currently grounded... Are we the only club still using a Blanik as our only trainer? It's pretty hard to operate without a trainer... what are other clubs doing about the situation? Southern Tablelands GC has two Blaniks one with and one without the Llewelyn mods. Both have been thoroughly inspected and the wing spars are OK. We are waiting on word from LET via the GFA which would allow the unmodified Blanik back into service. Failing that we will be looking for another two seater. I fear the market price of second hand two seaters has probably already risen significantly! cheers, Ken ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3074 - Release Date: 08/16/10 04:35:00 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] GLIDING INTERNATIONAL - NOVEMBER ISSUE
John, I'd like to advertise in your magazine. More info please. Best regards Mark Fisher On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:29 AM, John Roake j...@johnroake.com wrote: The November issue is in the mail. Great Reading SOME OF THE FEATURE STORIES IN THE NOVEMBER ISSUE OF GLIDING INTERNATIONAL. 1.The Nimeta -The hybrid single seater with a wingspan of 101 feet and an L/D of 70:1 plus. Now competing in Germany. Incredible photography. 2. The amazing 50:1 15 metre class sailplane now on the market for Euro 64,000. Your option to be a leading competition winner. 3.The unexpected a story about wave flying in Poland. 4.Details on the new service starting in January for Gliding International subscribers only. An email service with headlines on breaking soaring news. 5. Soaring in Morocco. The new discovery! 6.Details on the research a group of enthusiasts are undertaking to record the history of gliding administration from 1922 to 2010. This is fascinating! 7.The photographic evidence of a major bird strike to a 15-metre sailplane. The pilot survived! 8.Angela Sheard reports on the 2009 European Gliding Championships. 9. John Roake attended the FAI conference in Korea and reports on the world scene for sporting aviation. Not too encouraging. 10. DG Flugzeugbau makes major changes to the LS-8 making it a very desirable sailplane. 11. The debacle in Holland. The introduction of a new transponder grinds the county¹s whole monitoring system, to a halt. Their computing system cannot cope. A lesson for every country. 12.Uli Schwenk¹s new project 13. Success with an alternative to Radar 14. Chinese join the Germans for the new GPS alternative 15. Next World Air Games in Denmark 16. Continental soaring records a likely new feature for FAI. 17. Iran and Mongolia amongst five new applicants for FAI membership. 18. The PIK27 home built tow aircraft making great progress. Plus 35 other stories. New subscribers can register at www.glidinginternational.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] OzFlarm and miniOZ approved as Position recorders
Great news Tim!! So.now I need to get in touch with GFA and get the nod to do calibrations? Mark Cheers Mark On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM, tshir...@internode.on.net wrote: Effective today, 25th October 2009, OzFlarm and miniOZ devices are approved for verification of Silver and Gold badge claims in Australia. Please note that a separate barograph must still be carried unless the pressure sensor in the Flarm unit has been calibrated by an official calibration lab - in other words, the barograph is to be considered exactly as if it was a separate mechanical barograph. The exact process for making declarations and claims will need to be confirmed by Beryl Hartley, however paper declarations will be required, Lats and Longs of waypoints will need to be specified (not just the name of a silo) and barographs will have to be carried on any flight where a height verification is needed. The official approval documents will appear on the GFA website shortly. Please note that this is the first approval in the world of a Position Recorder under the new Sporting Code rules. Cheers Tim ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] ALTAIR PRO Owners read this
For those of you with an Altair Pro, the new IGC approved replacement devices have arrived in the workshop!Please visit the following link to read on what to do to claim your upgrade. http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/newsletters/20 Cheers Mark -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Avionics PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] IGC Data Loggers
SWISS Flarm- IGC or EW Microrecorder. See. http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/product_detail/88/Swiss%20Flarm%20-%20IG C/ And http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/product_detail/43/EW%20microreader%20IGC %20Logger/ -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Kym Z Sent: Monday, 27 July 2009 4:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] IGC Data Loggers Dear all, Given that cameras cannot be used for FAI claims any more, what sort of data logger should I recommend to my club to purchase? Thanks, Kym Z. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New colour flight computer
Also checkout Altair pricing at present. Tied to the Swiss Frank, not the greenback. REALLY good value right now! Cheaper than Ultimate! And only draws 400mA www.swiftavionics.com.au -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2009 4:46 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] New colour flight computer If you are in the market for a colour flight computer this looks pretty good. http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm Run it with a B500 or any of the data output varios or just a GPS. Neat input device and what looks like the best sunlight readable screen around with full VGA resolution (640 x 480) twice the resolution in each direction of most others. I asked Richard about using the B500 without GCD but here's what he said: I would let the B500 control the software, as it already does, on the Ultimate as far as bugs, ballast, MC etc., the ability to use the GCD for what ifs and see glide around two points is a plus and also as a check on final glide. Set it on the B500 and it is automatically set in the WinPilot or SeeYouMobile software. Pretty good price at USD2500. About A$3700 landed here taxes paid. If you don't want to rebuild the panel and want a cheaper alternative the B2500 is only a little more than half the price. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspace - FLARM and MITRE
This may be of interest to those following this thread. http://translate.google.com.au/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powerflarm.c omsl=detl=enhl=enie=UTF-8 Not available yet, but underway in Switzerland. Cheers Fish -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 9:31 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspace - FLARM and MITRE Wombat, That was beautifully put: Even I could understand (most of ) it! Thank you for that so succinct overview. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Mike Cleaver wom...@netspeed.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspace - FLARM and MITRE G'Day All A note about the purpose and technology comparing FLARM to MITRE and ADS-B. FLARM was developed in Europe specifically as an aid to sailplanes flying in Alpine areas to avoid collisions at very short range (i.e. the recreational parallel to TCAS, using GPS position broadcasts instead of transponders). MITRE was developed in the US specifically to have a means to allow UAVs to operate in public airspace with manned aircraft - so-called interoperability - again using GPS position broadcasts over a medium range to give an electronic version of see and avoid. ADS-B is a longer-range technology, also using GPS position broadcasts to replace ground-based secondary surveillance radar for air traffic control purposes and therefore transmitting mainly to a network of ground stations. Whilst secondary radar (including TCAS) relies on a ground (or aircraft for TCAS) signal to trigger an aircraft response, all the GPS systems use an autonomous aircraft transmission. This means that an aircraft can participate in the system far more cheaply and efficiently than with radar. In spite of this, some of the ADS-B proponents want to link it to the latest (most costly, complex and possibly most error-prone) Mode S (for Select) secondary radar. The UK CAA is among these and has drawn a lot of criticism from particularly the gliding and hang gliding community. There is no reason why ADS-B and radar should be linked like this, other than the fact they use the same frequency of 1090 MHz. All these systems use wavelengths around 3 cm to penetrate haze and cloud. There is also no reason why ADS-B cannot also be used to show other aircraft where a user is, and so ADS-B IN has been developed to display the position of other aircraft using the technology - this is very similar to the MITRE concept, and to a lesser degree of precision, FLARM - which is designed to enhance see-and-avoid as well as assist separation. All of them can also, to a limited degree, allow one user to track another user (the primary job of ADS-B and radar). The frequencies DO vary - ADS-B uses 1090 MHz worldwide whilst MITRE uses 978 MHz in the US, and FLARM uses 921 MHz in Australia 869.25 MHz in New Zealand, and 868 point something MHz in Europe. It looks as if there is some regulatory acceptance of FLARM for other than gliders - for instance rescue helicopters in Switzerland use it as well. So all the hoo-ha in the US is because NTSB - the equivalent to our ATSB - got it into their heads when investigating a few midair collisions involving gliders and particularly the one the year before last with the Biz Jet in the Rockies that the MITRE concept would have prevented the collision. Hence they recommended (quite impractically, since it is not intended for production at the moment and is nowhere near a mature technology) that all light aircraft and gliders that cannot support a radar transponder and the TCAS technology should be fitted with it. The source Chris quoted, The Examiner, has latched onto this and is criticising the FAA for not mandating it, trying to create a media stink. In this case, little more use than asking for automatic variable speed-limiters on every vehicle on the roads, triggered by radio alerts from a GPS based system to apply the appropriate speed limit. It's theoretically possible, but not technologically feasible yet even if it was genuinely desirable and affordable. Wombat - Original Message - From: Urs Rothacher u...@flarm.com To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspace FYI The MITRE device is a prototype for UAT ADS-B (Australia uses 1090MHz ADS-B which is incompatible). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADS-B#ADS-B_physical_layer Furthermore it is transmit only and MITRE has no intention of developing a certifiable, usable product. Urs - FLARM here's a link:
[Aus-soaring] Colibri's for sale
I have 2 x Colibri's for sale both are USB and come with all cables etc. ? Only ever driven around the skies by a senior couple. Listed on www.ebay.com.au http://www.ebay.com.au/ Search for IGC Logger Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stemme Rotax 914
Hi Macca, Wheel alignment check, WB and paperwork. That's about it, then she's on the market! Cheers MArk From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Stemme Rotax 914 Mark Maybe a trip to EASA web site it is amaizing what is there and now all in English How ia 914 project going or should I not ask Ian McPhee 0428824642 2009/1/27 Mark Fisher m...@spe.com.au I am hoping Simon Hackett reads this. I have heard rumours that Stemme have had the 12 year time life on Rotax 914's lifted or extended by Rotax . Can anyone shine any light on this subject? Cheers Mark From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Rowe Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:01 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Grand Prix - Chile http://www.grandprixchile2009.org/ Not sure if the schleicher representation would make a diference to the scores, it should be noted that schempp were not represented in 15m at benalla also, i hope to rectify this next year with a V2a. Some scores may be a little slow due to the fatality of one of the competitors pre start, very sad and as we know families are usually a large part of the organisation of such events also. Very exciting flying over there by the looks of it all. Cheers Mark From: ec...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:59 +1030 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Grand Prix - Chile Hello Chris You are right! Last night I have spoken to the factory and learned that Schleicher has no representation in any South American country. They are telling me that it will now be changed sooner rather than later. Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of C K Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 1:53 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Grand Prix - Chile Congratulations to Uli Schwenk and Tilo Holighaus for placing first and second in their Ventus 2's and therefore qualifying for the GP final. On a more pleasing note for Schempp-Hirth, 17 of the 19 entrants flew Schempp-Hirth gliders. The others being a Diana and an LS6. Chris www.schempphirth.com http://www.schempphirth.com/ Combine your email accounts here! Want to marry your mail? http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758%20 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Stemme Rotax 914
I am hoping Simon Hackett reads this. I have heard rumours that Stemme have had the 12 year time life on Rotax 914's lifted or extended by Rotax . Can anyone shine any light on this subject? Cheers Mark From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Rowe Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:01 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Grand Prix - Chile http://www.grandprixchile2009.org/ Not sure if the schleicher representation would make a diference to the scores, it should be noted that schempp were not represented in 15m at benalla also, i hope to rectify this next year with a V2a. Some scores may be a little slow due to the fatality of one of the competitors pre start, very sad and as we know families are usually a large part of the organisation of such events also. Very exciting flying over there by the looks of it all. Cheers Mark From: ec...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:26:59 +1030 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Grand Prix - Chile Hello Chris You are right! Last night I have spoken to the factory and learned that Schleicher has no representation in any South American country. They are telling me that it will now be changed sooner rather than later. Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of C K Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 1:53 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Grand Prix - Chile Congratulations to Uli Schwenk and Tilo Holighaus for placing first and second in their Ventus 2's and therefore qualifying for the GP final. On a more pleasing note for Schempp-Hirth, 17 of the 19 entrants flew Schempp-Hirth gliders. The others being a Diana and an LS6. Chris www.schempphirth.com http://www.schempphirth.com/ Combine your email accounts here! Want to marry your mail? http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758%20 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] flarm for sale
I guess I can help with that question. Go to this link on our website http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/faq.php Click on General Flarm Questions and checkout the table therein. Basically Swiss Flarms all have a micro SD card for flight download, and they can also be ordered in IGC approved models. Of course if IGC approval is not a requirement, there are several different options that achieve the same result. I have heard, but not yet had confirmed that GFA may be approving some loggers/GPS units for flights up to a specific level. Cheers Mark From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net on behalf of Wayne Carter Sent: Tue 06-Jan-09 1:16 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] flarm for sale Why Mr Eckey? What are the benefits of the swiss unit over the Aus? Regards Wayne Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:23:40 +1030 From: Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Flarm for sale To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Message-ID: 7gfuel$7nq...@ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm thinking of upgrading to Swiss Flarm and therefore I'm offering my 1 year old Aus-flarm unit for sale. The asking price is $100 below the current sales price. Would any interested party contact me off line, please? Happy New Year to all of you! Bernard Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 South Australia Ph/Fax 08-84492871 Mobile 0412 981 204 ec...@internode.on.net ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Is this gliding?
Check this out. http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1778399server=vimeo.comsho I guess these guys don't have much use for Flarm ?? Take the time to watch the whole clip.especially near the end. It brought me to rethink the entire premise of final glide Cheers and happy new year to all on the list Mark From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Don Woodward Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 12:01 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flights from Nrm 9x 1000k flights. That is amazing, what a great effort! Regards Don Woodward VH-GIB - Original Message - From: Anne Elliott mailto:ann...@hwy.com.au To: Aus-soaring mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: masahikohome mailto:i...@tkd.att.ne.jp ; 'Koichi HAYAKAWA' mailto:mist...@xb3.so-net.ne.jp ; Katsunori mailto:byh13...@nifty.ne.jp Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:53 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Flights from Nrm Congratulations to Harry Medlicott who completed a 1020km flight today from Nrm. This is Harry's ninth 1000km flight. Other 1000km flights from Nrm I know about are from Trevor West and Mac Ichikawa. Koichi Hayakawa completed a 750km flight so congratulations to him also. Regards Anne Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott (GFA Sub-editor Soaring Australia magazine) PO Box 189 Narromine NSW 2821 Australia Email: ann...@hwy.com.au mailto:ann...@hwy.com.au Web: www.ourafricansafari.com.au www.vintageglidersaustralia.org.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Gliding Newsletter
Hi guys, Most of you will know by now that I have purchased RF Developments products and now trade under the name Swift Avionics. As much as this is a great forum to get info out, it's probably not good form, so I thought I'd give Aus-Soaring subscribers the chance to opt in to our news letter. You can find a link at the bottom LH corner of the home page. You can find us at www.swiftavionics.com.au Check out the great range of products we offer. I will be regularly sending out newsletters with New product info, technical tips, general gliding news. Safe Flying, Mark Fisher Swift Avionics ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joey
Mike, Ray Squire has one. It was with IZW when he purchased it. Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wed 12-Nov-08 12:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joey Old glider pilot would like a cheap Joey barograph. Anyone with one (working) who wants to sell it please contact me. He's not on this list. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider Tracking V1.0
Mal, What would it cost? Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mal Bruce Sent: Sat 08-Nov-08 7:46 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Glider Tracking V1.0 Dear Pilots, It is likely I have secured a trial of tracking software that will display the gliders regardless of what tracking unit they use. Peter Somersby and I will be flying VH:WVS with a military spec tracker running on the iridium network another smaller unit will also be under test and we are thinking to put this into a single seater. We can update as fast a every 4 seconds. More details to follow with the website. What is your opinion on a small fee for access to the tracking other than that can anyone find a sponsor and we will give free access. I will sponsor the site with my voice over sign ups if no one comes forward. Regards Mal 0411 196 255 www.mals.net ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] FLarm - New Supplier
Welcome. For all past customers of RF-Developments, the following short note is to inform you officially, that Swift Avionics has purchased RF-Developments designs, and also represents Tasman, Flarm and Triadis, the manufacturer of Altair amongst many other products for soaring, LSA , HG and Paragliding. Please take the time to visit our new website for a comprehensive range of products. A monthly newsletter will follow shortly. www.swiftavionics.com.au Subscribe on the new site !!! Safe flying The Swift Team. Ph: 02 66221666 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Narromine Cup Week and Grand Prix
At least two going from Warwick! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom van Blaricum Sent: Thu 23-Oct-08 8:30 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Narromine Cup Week and Grand Prix You can also count on a group of half a dozen or so from the gliding clubs at Bacchus Marsh for the Cup Week. Regards Tom van Blaricum From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2008 11:45 AM To: 'Mal Bruce'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Narromine Cup Week and Grand Prix There's 20 going from Southern Cross, with 13 gliders :-) 6 of them are staying for 2 weeks too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mal Bruce Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 10:21 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Narromine Cup Week and Grand Prix Were to from here ? off gliding I for two weeks yahoo :) How many from this group are going to Narromine Cup Week. 23 - 29 November 2008 How many are coming up to the Grand Prix 30th November until the 6th of December off list is ok [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Mal 0411 196 255 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 21/10/2008 2:10 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Looking for OBH
Does anyone have contact details for Bill Hatfield?? Cheers Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson Sent: Monday, 15 September 2008 9:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flying on Mars How did that post from an earlier SF thread on this forum (Dancers at the End of Time) go -Feekit? Gary - Original Message - From: Texler, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:47 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Flying on Mars I have done some flying on Mars. Pretend, anyway. I have X-plane 9 on my Mac at home, part of the flight sim is the ability to fly on Mars (with Martian elevation data and terrain to boot). The main canyon (Valles Marineris) is up to 7km (almost 23,000') deep Olympus Mons is 27km (88,500') above the mean surface level. Hence the variation in air density between those two places is huge. It is very tricky to fly. The air at mean Martian surface is about 1% as dense as Earth's at see level. The gravity is also less than on Earth. Even taking off from the bottom of the canyon, your indicated stall speed and Vne are very close together (i.e. you are in 'coffin corner' for most of the time). Your take off speed is very near the speed of sound. Because of the reduced air density, control effectiveness is very much reduced, so turning is a slow process. Also, on approach to land, and drag producing devices (drogue chute, airbrakes, flaps) don't work very well, because of the thin air. Even slowing down once on the ground is tricky, because of the reduced gravity, the weight of the aircraft on the wheels is less. About the only way you can stop is with arrestor cables. Have managed to take off from the plain next to Olympus Mons and climb to the top of Olympus Mons, but it took several attempts because the aircraft couldn't out climb the terrain. I suspect thermalling on Mars might be out (Unless you are very very small) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1671 - Release Date: 9/14/2008 7:16 AM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] ADS-B ??
Can anyone point to me RAA and GFA's opinions on ADS-B ? Also interested in CASA's stance and when and if they will be trying to implement ADS-B ? Of course, personal opinions are welcome too! Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Forward slips?
K7 does the same thing with Ruddder lock From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of erich wittstock Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 11:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Forward slips? - A K6 with the right attitude in a side-slip will have the rudder sucked into the max position in the same manner like a DG-500. (Does this make the K6 a modern glider?) - During my training this was demonstrated to me by my instructor. - The suction effect (rudder lock) can be prevented by keeping pressure on both rudder pedals. (This was also demonstrated by my instructor) - I performed a rudder lock and recovery as part of side-slip training. - This was performed in safe altitude above 1000ft. - I believe that spin training is performed in order to prevent spins. - No surprises during side-slipping thereafter - I am prepared because I am trained in the procedure. - Side-slipping can still be utilised safely to reduce rope slack. - Not all gliders can be treated the same: read the manufacturers manual before flying the type (what does SH state in the POH about side slipping? I reckon SH know about the decreased elevator effectiveness and let people know about this) On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:27 PM, John Parncutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of side slipping on approach with modern T tail gliders such as the Janus for instance should be avoided. The disruption of airflow over the elevator can result in reduced or no elevator authority. Another effect of side slipping that can occur with some aircraft including the Janus is rudder lock. These are obviously not desirable effects on approach! For this reason in our club we do not teach the use of side slipping on approach with any of our aircraft. Of course many older aircraft can be side slipped very effectively and safely. John Parncutt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hart Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 3:03 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Forward slips? Terry Neumann wrote: Sideslips were of course, a common, almost mandatory practise on approach with the early ES52's and especially with the ES57 Kingfisher. They were lots of fun, but fell out of favour (and properly so) when gliders with serious airbrakes came along. I have been occasionally asked to demonstrate a sideslip in more recent check flights, a curious request given the excellent airbrakes in most gliders these days - especially in the AS-K21 in which the directive was uttered. (You want me to do a what??! Oh OK, here we go .(sigh)). Personally I think they are best left alone in most - if not all - modern gliders, unless of course it's a B-767. Hmmm I would have to disagree about using sideslips being a thing of the past. Admittedly, I trained in the UK in the '60s, where small paddocks were pretty common (and on gliders that had ineffective spoilers let alone ineffective airbrakes) and so sideslips were an integral part of the training I received (and eventually was giving as an instructor). Even in Alice, I still sideslip (although with her lack of rudder she doesn't slip too well in a straight line) on occasion to keep in practice in case I need it some time. With full landing flap, full airbrake and the max straight line sideslip, Alice's rate of descent is high and the angle of approach is really steep (think clearing obstacles and maximising ground roll space in a short paddock). I know that if I need it, the skill/knowledge/experience are there ready to be pulled out. I last used a sideslip during a busy arrival at this year's Easter comp so I could land short and quickly get off the runway, out of the way of a stack of traffic behind me in the circuit. I would also maintain that we should teach sideslips - one of these days being able to do it safely could prevent a marginal outlanding from becoming another outlanding accident. As a general principle, I believe pretty strongly that, with the exception of full aerobatics that scare quite a few people, if there's a safe manoeuvre that your glider can do, you should know how to do it safely - that way, if you need to do it, it's part of your skill set. -- Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list
Re: [Aus-soaring] MH Oxygen refill
Many thanks Roger. I will look into this. Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Druce Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 6:31 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MH Oxygen refill Dear Mark I have purchased the transfiller that MH sell - the higher specification one of the two possibilities as shown on their website if you dig into it. This kit makes it easy to fill if you have an appropriate high pressure bottle to decant from. Amongst other things you need to be the type person who can handle the equipment appropriately, eg careful storage when not in use, etc., etc., etc. Yes the transfiller costs a bit but then the cost could be shared amongst a group. Usually I get bottles filled by a suitable enterprise rather than use the transfiller because I don't often have a high pressure oxygen source at my elbow.Some of my bottles are 3,000 psi rated and to get 3,000 psi into them I go to Miden Medical in Tullamarine Melbourne where we have had good service. On the GFA website there is a webpage where sources of oxygen bottle recharging are advised. This may only list the Melbourne possibilities or it may have now been expanded to add some other states possibilities. regards Roger Druce From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Fisher Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 11:59 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] MH Oxygen refill I am wondering how or where people are refilling their MH Oxy systems. I just bought a KF011 bottle with EDS. It's a wonderfully low weight system. Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] MH Oxygen refill
I am wondering how or where people are refilling their MH Oxy systems. I just bought a KF011 bottle with EDS. It's a wonderfully low weight system. Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Pilatus 4 sale
Spread the word... The demise of Summerland Gliding Club means that Pilatus GJT is for sale. Fixed gear. This aircraft is in excellent mechanical condition, a few cosmetic blemishes, but all in all a very sound glider, and lovely to fly. New panel installed 2 years ago. No haggling $10,000. Open trailer available by negotiation. We have one but no fittings built yet. Just get in and fly! Call Mark 0427127128 Cheers Fish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Carey Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 9:31 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Rates for glider hire Good morning All, Back in the late eighties or early nineties there was an article in Soaring Australia arguing that Clubs should charge 1/1000th of the cost of the glider per hour. Would anyone remember the article and, better still has a copy of the issue? Regards Peter Carey ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Two Seater for sale VH-KYJ
See PDF below. http://www.swift-avionics.com/download_files/KYJ.pdf Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] PDA Glide Computer Question
Q. I would like three good reasons why a bloke should pay for WInpilot or similar when one can get XC Soar for free. Not meaning to provoke a derogatory response, it's just that I notice a lot of PDA users using Winpilot, yet XCsoar is available free. ANy feedaback on other products will be well received. I was wondering what people see as the pro's and cons. I do have an IPAQ PDA so this is not a hardware question. Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Marketing: My goal!
I remember paying Jon $2 to stuff the battens in my HG at Buffalo Nationals in 1990.. Geez I'm feeling old Fish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 10:45 PM To: aus soaring Subject: [Aus-soaring] Marketing: My goal! This has been my goal ever since I could dream/think for myself! You know you've made it when you get marketed like this! This is Jonny Durands website, he's been the #1 Aus HG pilot since 2002 and has been sponsored by RedBull since 2004! http://www.jonnydurand.com/index.html - check out his Why can't I/gliding be marketed like this! Working on it, Woolley Email Australia. Be part of history. Take part in Australia's first e-mail archive with http://emailaustralia.ninemsn.com.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tow Planes
The latest Soaring magazine from USA has an article about the PIK27. It has been towing for a season and working well. Fish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert Dorning Sent: Wed 07-May-08 4:45 PM To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tow Planes Thanks for excellent replies - a host of information. I agree with Adam that the Zlin Z-37 T2 is a must have. At US $150,000 it's a steal. Arising from replies from this list and elsewhere I have two further questions: i) it was suggested we should be talking to European clubs. I have done so with pommie Clubs. Does anyone have contacts on the Continent, or know of relevant Internet mailing lists? ii) does anyone know about progress with the Finnish purpose built tug, the PIK 27? It can be seen at: www.windcraft.fi/pik27/welcome.htm Thanks again. Robert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Chris Woolley EGT
Chris, I saw your post on RAS. Please contact me for a solution. 0427127128 Cheers Mark Fisher From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Adam Woolley Sent: Tue 01-Apr-08 7:45 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Results: Qld Easter comps 2008 G'day all, The below story is still correct (except that Dad was 2nd by 70points), my only addition to it was that the reason why Dad initially thought he may've cleaned up is because his WinPilot was incorrect, and nothing to do with the scorer (if it was taken that way)! Dads speed was actually 92km/hr off the stick.. The scorer, who I think, working with the webmaster did a sensational job. This comp has been the first in Australia that I can recall that has had the *.igc traces available for download each day - Nice work guys! I didn't mention the WinPilot fault in the below e-mail as I'm all for WinPilot. 9 times out of 10 in my experience, the speeds and data are accurate :).. doh! Sorry for any offence to the scorer, if any at all was taken. WPP P.s. Jo, would you be able to write something to the group about what was going through your head, and how you made that massive decision?! I think many of us could learn from it if we were to be in that same situation in future comps. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:26:38 +1000 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Results: Qld Easter comps 2008 Just spoke to Dad, sounds like it was an interesting day to finish up on. Blue, windy and generally ordinary conditions.. After the task was completed, Dad and Georgo met. The conversation was, how fast did you go?! Dad's response was 98km/hr, Georgo responded, oh well, congratulations, you got me. 93km/hr.. Later that night at prize giving, the daily results were called out. 3rd, Georgo... 2nd, Robert Hart... ... and 1st place for the day goes to... Bill Hatfield! Dad and Georgo look over at each other, throw their hands up in the air and expressions of something like well bugger me!.. The CD then moved onto the final winners presentation, Congratulations Georgo, you've won Performance Class. Dad said he's speach was short and sweet, but told at how he was totally surprised by the result! Dad was 2nd by 40something points, well done Dad. I believe Jo had an eventful day as well. Dad tells me that she almost landed out near Tara, decided to make a re-start at 13:45 (I think, maybe later too), and managed to pull off a Day win to clean up Club Class. Congratulations Jo!! Guess that decision came down to 'do I want to have a chance at winning, or loose and stay on task?' Well, seeing as when ever a ASG29 wins, 'someone' basically says it's the ASG29, it is s much better than the V2, thats why it won. So it must mean that the Shark is better than the V2 :( hahaha Congrats Georgo and Jo! WPP Click here Get MOTORAZR MAXX V6 now $249 on Next G(tm) Pre-Paid http://clk.atdmt.com/OAT/go/nnmsntel069034oat/direct/01/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Trainer wanted and TUG
Summerland Gliding Club is looking for a two seater...nothing elaborate, as insurance costs will be an issue for us, but, a K13 or even a K7 would get us back in the air. Ideally, a motorfalke would be great. We have a fantastic facility, great secure hangar with concrete floor, and a small group of enthusiasts who LOOK AFTER aircraft. Please contact me on 0427127128 if you know of anything. While I'm at it..we are also after a tug. Anything considered. Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of erich wittstock Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2008 11:15 PM To: Mal Bruce; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider Tracking http://www.haicom.com.tw/hi_601vt.aspx ...remotely control your competitors dump valves... On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Mal Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a up comming 2008 gliding event I am looking for all the availiable methods to track gliders please forward your links. Thanks Mal :) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Items Stolen
Nick, Just jump in your car with another Flarm and drive around the suburbs.you are bound to find it! you did have them both turned on didn't you?? :-) Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 2:16 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Items Stolen Hi There, My car was stolen out the front of my house this morning :( In the glove box was a Cambridge 302A, and a Flarm. If anyone hears anything or is approached for information regarding saleability of these items, please let me know. Nick. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Second hand two seater wanted
or Summerland GLiding Club Two Seater? We have a beautiful Centrair Marianne with trailer for sale . Call me on 0427127128 for more info http://www.swift-avionics.com/avionics/download1.php?pid=61 download the pdf Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Fri 30-Nov-07 8:30 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Second hand two seater wanted Hi Ken Please check with the Boonah Gliding Club. The contact is Robert Izatt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Caldwell Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 5:06 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Second hand two seater wanted The Goulburn Gliding Group is considering buying another two seater. If you know of any available now or in the next few months please email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, Ken ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Blanik seeker?
I have lost the phone number of a pilot from Tamworth who rang me regarding purchasing our Blanik last week If anyone knows who this may have been, please pass on details. Cheers Mark Fisher ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] L'Hotellier Source??
Thanks John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Orton Sent: Monday, 29 October 2007 4:46 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] L'Hotellier Source?? How about Barry Conroy Commercial Manager CGB Precision Products Pty Ltd 94 Voltri St. Mentone VIC 3194 Australia Ph:61 3 95845311 Fax 61 3 95847784 www.cgb.com.au http://www.cgb.com.au/ On 10/29/07, Mark Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lost the contact details for a hotellier bearing/coupler supplier Any help?? Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Regards, John Orton Mob: 0429357439 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] L'Hotellier Source??
I have lost the contact details for a hotellier bearing/coupler supplier Any help?? Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] -phone number
Try 0408325208 Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of nandrews Sent: Fri 12-Oct-07 9:31 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] -phone number Hi All, Could someone help me out with a phone number for Peter Buskins? Cheers Nigel Nigel Andrews Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Dr Jacks blipmaps and RASP (Regional AtmosphericSoaring Predictions) for NSW
Is that same Bernie Baer who flew HG's years ago? Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernie Baer Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2007 7:45 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Dr Jacks blipmaps and RASP (Regional AtmosphericSoaring Predictions) for NSW Hi Folks, I have just installed RASP (Dr Jacks blipmaps) for NSW : http://blipmap.walsys.net/NEWSOUTHWALES/ The installation is still in the testing stage but appears OK apart from the soundings. (The Camden sounding works, but Temora and Narromine don't yet). On the graphics, location 1 is Camden, 2 is Temora, and 3 is Narromine (the numbers are in white and hard to see, but they are there). RASP is installed on a server owned by a non-pilot friend; it chews up about 9GB of his download allowance every month, and utilises 100% CPU for about 4-5 hours per day. Consequently it could disappear at any time, should it impact his web server. My thanks to Johnny Wharington for his invaluable assistance, and Dr Jack Glendinning for the free distribution of RASP. Regards, Bernie Baer / Southern Cross Gliding Club, Camden. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Advances Soaring Made Easy
Bernard, I took the book up with me, but still, I landed out :-) Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 9:01 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Advances Soaring Made Easy Dear all Please let me apologize upfront if I offend anyone with a semi commercial question! My publisher is running out of books and wants to do an urgent reprint in time for the Christmas period. A few readers have already brought some minor errors to my attention but I feel that it is only fitting that I ask all readers of Advances Soaring Made Easy to contact me in case they have discovered any errors or can suggest amendments and/or refinements. There is little point in printing thousands of books with known errors. Also, I would like to hear from anyone with a spectacular digital photo. Your cooperation is very much appreciated. Bernard Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Appropriate PDA/Phone?
and whats wrong with Soaring Pilot from soaringpilot.org for your Palm device?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Phill Glasson Sent: Fri 07-Sep-07 6:31 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Appropriate PDA/Phone? Hello all, Following on from the PDA software thread, I'm about to consign my Pa1mOne Treo650 to the land of the Dead Phone. The Treo isn't such a great phone, but it does have a large screen and a qwerty, however the software/hardware combination I've been attempting to use with it is a little less than perfect. Looks like I'll have to move to a *sigh* Windows OS. With that in mind (along with my love of Open Source SW) what would be the group concensus wrt a combined PDA/Phone and using XCSoar? Best regards, Phill B4 VH-GCD ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA GPS
Is this device a switchmode supply, or linear?? Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 9:46 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA GPS Hi all, Reg, if you can use the vario as source, then you get the vario data(Airspeed, Altitude and rate of climb fed to the PDA with the GPS signal). The PDA will also display flarm data so ideally the vario GPS signal is sourced from the flarm, fed to the vario with the flarm data included then the vario adds its data and passes on the whole lot to the PDA for display. By the way a 2 seater repeater can be setup via Bluetooth link with XC Soar and presumably WinPilot, so one only needs to supply power to the backseat PDA, and it gets all of the mixed DATA. E-Frontier have a 5 volt regulator in a 12V cigarette lighter plug, with an IPAQ plug and a PS2 GPSIN socket for $19. I have pulled one apart and built into a small jiffy box with the appropriate connectors. Contact me off list Reg and I will be happy to give you a hand with installation, or assemble at cost any type of cable you require. http://www.efrontier.com.au/estore/product_info.php?cPath=2_8products_i d=30 All you need to do is change the PS2 GPS socket, or make up an adaptor cable from a PS2 plug to whatever GPS data source you want to use. They also have a suitable PS2 mouse GPS mouse for $70, though a flarm or a logger is better as they have a pressure altitude sensor, giving more accurate results. I am in the process of designing an interface box that has on the front 2 GPS inputs for flarm or Garmin or any other and logger, a PDA out and a switch so you can select GPS from flarm or logger.(This is so the logger can connect to the PDA for task declaration, and gives redundancy to the GPS source). If the vario is the GPS source one of the front panel sockets would be used. The commercial boxes I have seen end up a horrible mish mash of serial adaptors when installed. I plan to use all RJ telephone style connectors, and then assemble the appropriate leads. On the rear of the box there is a GPS OUT to vario socket and a GPS IN from vario socket. The idea being that a loop cable can be plugged in to these if a vario is not used. The idea is to mount this in the instrument panel. A useful fact, Volkslogger and Colibri are capable of using the same 6 pin cable, as even though the Colibri has an 8 pin socket the extra 2 pins are Extra power pins, so that the first and last pair on either side of the connector are power, the 6 pin connector only supplies the inner 2 pims but works fine. The excellent John Wharrington pointed out a wireless Bluetooth PDA game controller That can be used to remote control the PDA, mounted on the stick or wherever, costs $80, neat! See here http://www.smartgamepad.com/ To the PFY(Dion), memory card is worth $15, no effort to load, he's still making a packet, and do you think he's paying for the TOMTOM software? It was 70,000 people making a living from EBAY BTW! I have tried to get data out from an L-Nav with no luck, it only has one DATA socket and no GPS is built in so one has to use that input to supply GPS dataG Before you buy Winpilot try XC Soar, its free and support is great! As to the comment on Terrain colours, in XC Soar there are a number of colour styles one can use for terrain, I suggest the ICAO colour scheme. I plan to do up an article for Soaring Australia, with a set of Pinout diagrams for the most common devices, but I need the FLARM pinouts, and the Borgelt pinouts still to complete the set. Finally, spot on Ross the Vario manufacturers have zero motivation to help in this area, they would much rather sell you a new unit. Amusingly I read an ad from an old AG about a common digital vario extolling the fact that it would overcome obsolescence by software updates-which are no longer available! A black box (no display) vario engine is what is really needed To maximize this sort of setup, but I am not holding my breath. One last note, IPAQ's have no backup battery and if charged and left on the charger they do not start charging until the power is disconnected, so that if you leave one fully charged on the charger for say a month it will flatten the battery and lose its data, even though the charger is connected. I strongly suggest you make us of the full backup facility on the PDA when everything is setup, so restoring the PDA is quick and easy. The best bet is to have a timer on the charger that disconnects the power once a day for 5 minutes, then the PDA will charge again.(Great piece of design that)! Finally, does anyone have an up to date Australia.txt airspace file, as the one I have is 2004 vintage, this files defines what airspace is displayed. Phew, sorry guys, that went on a lot
Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA GPS
Thanks Dave. A Switchmode would be better!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 11:01 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA GPS Hi mark, I presume you mean the E-Frontier cable? It's a standard linear 5v regulator, using a 5v IC regulator, so it can get a bit hot on a flat PDA. Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Fisher Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA GPS Is this device a switchmode supply, or linear?? Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 9:46 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA GPS Hi all, Reg, if you can use the vario as source, then you get the vario data(Airspeed, Altitude and rate of climb fed to the PDA with the GPS signal). The PDA will also display flarm data so ideally the vario GPS signal is sourced from the flarm, fed to the vario with the flarm data included then the vario adds its data and passes on the whole lot to the PDA for display. By the way a 2 seater repeater can be setup via Bluetooth link with XC Soar and presumably WinPilot, so one only needs to supply power to the backseat PDA, and it gets all of the mixed DATA. E-Frontier have a 5 volt regulator in a 12V cigarette lighter plug, with an IPAQ plug and a PS2 GPSIN socket for $19. I have pulled one apart and built into a small jiffy box with the appropriate connectors. Contact me off list Reg and I will be happy to give you a hand with installation, or assemble at cost any type of cable you require. http://www.efrontier.com.au/estore/product_info.php?cPath=2_8products_i d=30 All you need to do is change the PS2 GPS socket, or make up an adaptor cable from a PS2 plug to whatever GPS data source you want to use. They also have a suitable PS2 mouse GPS mouse for $70, though a flarm or a logger is better as they have a pressure altitude sensor, giving more accurate results. I am in the process of designing an interface box that has on the front 2 GPS inputs for flarm or Garmin or any other and logger, a PDA out and a switch so you can select GPS from flarm or logger.(This is so the logger can connect to the PDA for task declaration, and gives redundancy to the GPS source). If the vario is the GPS source one of the front panel sockets would be used. The commercial boxes I have seen end up a horrible mish mash of serial adaptors when installed. I plan to use all RJ telephone style connectors, and then assemble the appropriate leads. On the rear of the box there is a GPS OUT to vario socket and a GPS IN from vario socket. The idea being that a loop cable can be plugged in to these if a vario is not used. The idea is to mount this in the instrument panel. A useful fact, Volkslogger and Colibri are capable of using the same 6 pin cable, as even though the Colibri has an 8 pin socket the extra 2 pins are Extra power pins, so that the first and last pair on either side of the connector are power, the 6 pin connector only supplies the inner 2 pims but works fine. The excellent John Wharrington pointed out a wireless Bluetooth PDA game controller That can be used to remote control the PDA, mounted on the stick or wherever, costs $80, neat! See here http://www.smartgamepad.com/ To the PFY(Dion), memory card is worth $15, no effort to load, he's still making a packet, and do you think he's paying for the TOMTOM software? It was 70,000 people making a living from EBAY BTW! I have tried to get data out from an L-Nav with no luck, it only has one DATA socket and no GPS is built in so one has to use that input to supply GPS dataG Before you buy Winpilot try XC Soar, its free and support is great! As to the comment on Terrain colours, in XC Soar there are a number of colour styles one can use for terrain, I suggest the ICAO colour scheme. I plan to do up an article for Soaring Australia, with a set of Pinout diagrams for the most common devices, but I need the FLARM pinouts, and the Borgelt pinouts still to complete the set. Finally, spot on Ross the Vario manufacturers have zero motivation to help in this area, they would much rather sell you a new unit. Amusingly I read an ad from an old AG about a common digital vario extolling the fact that it would overcome obsolescence by software updates-which are no longer available! A black box (no display) vario engine is what is really needed To maximize this sort of setup, but I am not holding my breath. One last note, IPAQ's have no backup battery and if charged and left on the charger
Re: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list
Use a piece of plastic tubing Cath. Cheers Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:16 PM To: Aus-Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list Hi guys Something thats been on my list for a while is to make myself a manometer. Does anyone know where I can get the glass u-tube from? Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list
Soft pvc tubing, like you use for instrumentation plumbing!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:45 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list OK where can I get a plastic u-tube from :P On 08/08/2007, at 11:39 AM, Derek Ruddock wrote: Use plastic. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 11:54 AM To: Aus-Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list Hi guys Something thats been on my list for a while is to make myself a manometer. Does anyone know where I can get the glass u-tube from? Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list
Or put a spring around the outside of the tube. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Fisher Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 1:01 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list Use a piece of plastic tubing Cath. Cheers Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:16 PM To: Aus-Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] My round-tuit list Hi guys Something thats been on my list for a while is to make myself a manometer. Does anyone know where I can get the glass u-tube from? Thanks Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Wanted GPS-NAV 20 or 25
Try http://soaringcanada.riq.ca/viewforum.php?f=7sid=55a2c82573bba92e938f9a 0411364d9e Cheers Fish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Jones Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2007 1:46 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Wanted GPS-NAV 20 or 25 Howdy all, Does any one have or know where I can get a reasonable priced Cambridge gps-Nav 20 or 25 second hand AND working . If any one can help can they contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers Ben ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Safari??
Does anyone one know of any gliding safari's being organized for any time in the next 12 months? Cheers Mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Advert fixed.
Hi guys, Was informed by some that the PDF advert for the Marianne wasn't downloading. Problem now fixed. See http://www.swift-avionics.com/avionics/download1.php?pid=61 Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au This email is confidential. The information contained in this email message and any attachments is confidential information and may be the subject of professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this material is prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. image001.jpg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] 70th Birthday
70 ? We dream of reaching 7 (seven)!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robinson, Peter B Sent: Thu 17-May-07 3:45 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] 70th Birthday Are there any other clubs who have already achieved 70 years of continuous gliding operations? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Hudson Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 6:49 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: FUN Hi All, We celebrate 70 continuous years of gliding at Waikerie on Saturday, 19th May 2007. This surely is a great (among the best) milestone in Australian Gliding. We will see some members return - some who learnt to fly in the Primary glider, and other's who learnt more latterly to fly in the Twin Astirs - all able to mix and reminise. Unfortunately - due to age or illness, there are many who wont be there to share in the celebration - Joch Barratt, Ken Reibe, Maurie Bradney - to name just a few. There will be lots there who can celebrate lots of gliding years - Ron Brock, Laurie English, Max Pennyfield and Geoff Horword (OAM) - to name a few. We'll hear Martin Simons talk about the improvements in glider design throught successive models of all types (gets Martin's books if you need any enlightenment). 2007 marks the 70th anniversary of WGC. 2012 (just 5 short years away) mark's the 75th Anniversary. We want to make this a big celebration of gliding in Australia/ Look out for you invitation. The Pelican has been cleaned and polished for the occasion. She looks like she could beat the best. We look forward to a great day (or two). John Hudson President, WGC. The material contained in this email may be confidential, privileged or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, use, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please advise the sender and delete the document. Neither OneSteel nor the sender accept responsibility for any viruses contained in this email or any attachments. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Two Seater for sale
Haven't flown a Grob 103 III Macca. How many in the country?? We'd rather hang onto it , but she has to go. Cheers Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ian McPhee Sent: Thu 17-May-07 7:30 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Two Seater for sale Have not flown this Mariane but have flown one Sweden and it is very nice indeed, but Mark I do not agree with you totally on Grob - A Grob103 III is totally different to the concrete swan (Twin Astir) and Grob 103 II trust me. My friend in Germany called the Grob III a poormans Duo Discus - and thats how nice it is..Ian M - Original Message - From: Mark Fisher To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Two Seater for sale Hello fellow glider-pilots. If you or your club is considering upgrading to a glass two seater please take the time to visit this URL. http://www.swift-avionics.com/avionics/download1.php?pid=61 Download the PDF for full details, Please contact me on 0427127128 if you are interested. Best regards Mark Fisher Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au This email is confidential. The information contained in this email message and any attachments is confidential information and may be the subject of professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this material is prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Woodward Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 7:46 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: FUN Congratulations John and the W.G.C. Have a great day and thanks to you and the other members of Waikerie who have helped us in recent years. Jeff and Don Woodward and members of Beverley Soaring Soc. J Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, We celebrate 70 continuous years of gliding at Waikerie on Saturday, 19th May 2007. This surely is a great (among the best) milestone in Australian Gliding. We will see some members return - some who learnt to fly in the Primary glider, and other's who learnt more latterly to fly in the Twin Astirs - all able to mix and reminise. Unfortunately - due to age or illness, there are many who wont be there to share in the celebration - Joch Barratt, Ken Reibe, Maurie Bradney - to name just a few. There will be lots there who can celebrate lots of gliding years - Ron Brock, Laurie English, Max Pennyfield and Geoff Horword (OAM) - to name a few. We'll hear Martin Simons talk about the improvements in glider design throught successive models of all types (gets Martin's books if you need any enlightenment). 2007 marks the 70th anniversary of WGC. 2012 (just 5 short years away) mark's the 75th Anniversary. We want to make this a big celebration of gliding in Australia/ Look out for you invitation. The Pelican has been cleaned and polished for the occasion. She looks like she could beat the best. We look forward to a great day (or two). John Hudson President, WGC. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 5/16/2007 6:05 PM attachment: image002.jpg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Seat Cushion Foam
Try PJ Bowers at Burliegh Heads QLD. www.pjbowers.com.au http://www.pjbowers.com.au/ They definitely have it. Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au This email is confidential. The information contained in this email message and any attachments is confidential information and may be the subject of professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this material is prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Hudson Sent: Friday, 18 May 2007 8:15 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Seat Cushion Foam Can anyone advise us of a local (Australian) distributor of Confor ? foam. John Hudson image001.jpg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Two Seater for sale
Hello fellow glider-pilots. If you or your club is considering upgrading to a glass two seater please take the time to visit this URL. http://www.swift-avionics.com/avionics/download1.php?pid=61 Download the PDF for full details, Please contact me on 0427127128 if you are interested. Best regards Mark Fisher Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au This email is confidential. The information contained in this email message and any attachments is confidential information and may be the subject of professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this material is prohibited. This email and any attachments are also subject to copyright. If you have received this email in error, please immediately advise the sender by return email and delete the message from your system. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Woodward Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 7:46 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: FUN Congratulations John and the W.G.C. Have a great day and thanks to you and the other members of Waikerie who have helped us in recent years. Jeff and Don Woodward and members of Beverley Soaring Soc. J Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, We celebrate 70 continuous years of gliding at Waikerie on Saturday, 19th May 2007. This surely is a great (among the best) milestone in Australian Gliding. We will see some members return - some who learnt to fly in the Primary glider, and other's who learnt more latterly to fly in the Twin Astirs - all able to mix and reminise. Unfortunately - due to age or illness, there are many who wont be there to share in the celebration - Joch Barratt, Ken Reibe, Maurie Bradney - to name just a few. There will be lots there who can celebrate lots of gliding years - Ron Brock, Laurie English, Max Pennyfield and Geoff Horword (OAM) - to name a few. We'll hear Martin Simons talk about the improvements in glider design throught successive models of all types (gets Martin's books if you need any enlightenment). 2007 marks the 70th anniversary of WGC. 2012 (just 5 short years away) mark's the 75th Anniversary. We want to make this a big celebration of gliding in Australia/ Look out for you invitation. The Pelican has been cleaned and polished for the occasion. She looks like she could beat the best. We look forward to a great day (or two). John Hudson President, WGC. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http:/travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFh N2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jbQ-- on Yahoo! Travel. image002.jpg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Parachute bids
To all those who have made their offer for the ATL90, thankyou. There are 3 of you who have made bids and a couple more enquiries. I will be informing the impending new owner of his/her success at Midday, today Monday. I will accept any bids until then. Cheers Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dave and Cath Sent: Wed 25-Apr-07 11:15 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Winch launches Or a 3 minute aero-tow and then fly all day? Dave L _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Armistead Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 9:48 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Winch launches Hmmm... would I rather have 23 cheap launches for a series of 3-8 minute flights, or one aerotow to 4,000' and contact the wave...? (says he who leaned to fly off a winch...) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Chute Sold
Hi guys, The ATL90 has been sold (once payment has been received) by Glenn McLean Thanks to all those interested. Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:46 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] accident rate for gliders in Australia At 08:52 AM 26/04/2007, you wrote: When I have decided to land, I put down the under carriage. Then in the circuit, I look at the placard and touch (push or pull) the undercarriage lever and make sure it is locked down, and repeat the locking check a couple of times in the circuit in a OCD manner. I have had one landing with U/C up and one near one. Both were in a Blanik (for those that do not know, is not a disaster, just embarrassing). Both times I was early in my career as an instructor in the back and I have not done it YET when solo or with a passenger. The first time, I heard my student do the checks but I did not check him as he was making me feel anxious with his circuit and my head was outside the cockpit. I have also had one near landing with U/C up when the student (also a licensed power pilot) picked up our mistake on final whilst doing his power PUFF check. We did not do a downwind (hence no checks) as we joined the circuit on base leg as were caught out low after some tasks. PeterS Which is why that old pelican Geoff Horwood wrote in Australian Gliding quite a long time ago that it is a pre-landing check not a downwind or FUST check. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Free online classifieds for sport aviation.
Ill check out your site today. Can I assume this will allow your gliding to become a business expense? Now .what about email at SPE? Where is the problem with iinet? Can I help? Good day yesterday! Keep it up and you'll be solo before you know it! Cheers FISH Sent via SPE and Telstra BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:52:29 To:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Free online classifieds for sport aviation. I've created a new website to provide free online classified ads to private individuals in Australia New Zealand. The website www.aeromarket.com.au is now live and accepting free advertisements including photos. There is a section purely devoted to gliders and accesories. The website will be funded by small display ads from private companies. Advertisements for the new website will be placed in Australian sport aviation magazines including Soaring Australia. Please place any ads you like to buy sell or swap any gliding related equipment. I hope you don't object to my sending this message to this list. I am a glider pilot too. Cheers, Greg Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Free online classifieds for sport aviation.
Apologies for my personal post. Please ignore. Sent via SPE and Telstra BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:52:29 To:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Free online classifieds for sport aviation. I've created a new website to provide free online classified ads to private individuals in Australia New Zealand. The website www.aeromarket.com.au is now live and accepting free advertisements including photos. There is a section purely devoted to gliders and accesories. The website will be funded by small display ads from private companies. Advertisements for the new website will be placed in Australian sport aviation magazines including Soaring Australia. Please place any ads you like to buy sell or swap any gliding related equipment. I hope you don't object to my sending this message to this list. I am a glider pilot too. Cheers, Greg Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Parachute for sale
I have an ATL 90 chute for sale. Excellent condition. Comes with original carry bag and documentation. Needs a repack. Cost $2000 five years ago. Best offer over $1000 gets it. Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2007 7:31 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Free online classifieds for sport aviation. - Banner I forgot I haven't uploaded the correct front page banner yet. No flames please.. --- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4/22/2007 6:52:29 PM To : aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc : Subject : RE: [Aus-soaring] Free online classifieds for sport aviation. I've created a new website to provide free online classified ads to private individuals in Australia New Zealand. The website www.aeromarket.com.au is now live and accepting free advertisements including photos. There is a section purely devoted to gliders and accesories. The website will be funded by small display ads from private companies. Advertisements for the new website will be placed in Australian sport aviation magazines including Soaring Australia. Please place any ads you like to buy sell or swap any gliding related equipment. I hope you don't object to my sending this message to this list. I am a glider pilot too. Cheers, Greg Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Skylark 4
Hi John, I learnt to fly in GTC at Grafton in the early ninety's under the watchful eye of Norm Milne. GTC made her way to Keepit about 3 years ago, where I think was damaged in a landing incident. Not sure if she still flies. Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parncutt Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:46 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Skylark 4 Talking of Blaniks, does anyone know what happend to GTC. I learnt to fly in this Blanik in 1975 at Kilparra soaring Club at Tennant Creek NT. As far as I know the club is long since gone and the Blanik which was then owned by the clubs only instructor (as was the auto tow vehicle) may have ended up in Queensland. John Parncutt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitchell Preston Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 9:41 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Skylark 4 Macca, Ah yes, dear old GTB. You may recall we had it at Grafton for a while in the late 70s. My most enduring memory of flying it as a young tyro was spending about an hour at no higher than 1800', having to periodically wipe the condensation from the inside of the canopy with my TTH. Grafton can be a hot and humid place - it was like flying a greenhouse with 18m wings that day! It certainly had a comfy cockpit. BT has mentioned the IS32 elsewhere as an 'interesting' type. Dare I say the only good metal sailplane to come out of Eastern Europe has been the Blanik? No doubt many airworthiness bods in this forum wouldn't agree, given that the ideal physique for anyone working on a Blanik is 4 ft height, 18 inch waist and arms like an orangutan. Mitch. On 18/04/2007, at 10:23 AM, Ian McPhee wrote: well I liked the old Skylark 4 GTB and can remember doing 8 3/4 hours one day - have not done much in cirrus so can not say.. Ian M attachment: image001.jpg ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k
Greg, You may be 6 ft (183cm) with broad shoulders, but you forgot to mention the verandah Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2007 7:16 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: RE: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k Thank you all for the advice. So what I'm looking at is a standard glass glider. I'm 6ft (183 cm) with fairly wide shoulders so I want to fit in ok too. Could anyone who knows of actual gliders for sale like this please let me know about them? Thanks, Greg. --- Original Message --- From: Ashley Boyle[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4/13/2007 5:09:18 PM To : aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k Hi Greg. For $20,000 i would recommend something like a standard cirrus. Cirrus's perform well and are still very competitive in competition flying. They have a very good handicap. I wouldn't rule out an Astir CS/77 either.Just my thoughts Ashley Boyle (1/3 owner of cirrus GZU :-) ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a glider trailer for up to $20,000. Please let me know if you know of any for sale. I have low hours and would also appreciate advice on what would be suitable. Thanks, Greg. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Cobra Brake Shoes??
Thanks to all those who supplied advice on fixing the brake shoes. Managed to straighten the offending metal bits and now have an excellent brake shop (Wrights Clutch and Barke Service ; Lismore) re-bonding friction material to same. Yes they are made by AL-KO Yes AL-KO are unable/unwilling to supply or help. Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Cant Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2007 10:31 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Cobra Brake Shoes?? From: Mark Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any clues on where to buy new brake shoes for a 1990 Cobra. I believe the parts are made by AL-KO No proper answer but I can give clues. :) AL-KO manufacture in Victoria, including brakes. They have a website: http://www.alko.com.au I don't know if the brakes are compatible but it's a place to start. There will be an agent in your nearest large town. He will probably be your next best move. They can be VERY slow. GC Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:16 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Websites + Promo Lets not beat around the bush it is hard enough to get publicity for our sport how many posts have we seen in the last few years along those lines. Not quite a gliding website however: http://youtube.com/?v=a0Y-9VCpfS8 I've been flashing this video around for a while now with good success at getting my peers interested in the sport... It's the best vid that I've found in a while - and it is a GREAT aef generator. If you'd like a (divX) AVI of the same to send around (abut 9.5 meg) try putting the above URL into http://vixy.net Ronnie Darwin. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Advertisement: Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.ninemsn.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Ea u%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext_t=762942039_r= seek_apr07_yourfuturestartshere_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Cobra Brake Shoes??
Any clues on where to buy new brake shoes for a 1990 Cobra. I believe the parts are made by AL-KO Cheers Mark Unit 5, 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:16 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Websites + Promo Lets not beat around the bush it is hard enough to get publicity for our sport how many posts have we seen in the last few years along those lines. Not quite a gliding website however: http://youtube.com/?v=a0Y-9VCpfS8 I've been flashing this video around for a while now with good success at getting my peers interested in the sport... It's the best vid that I've found in a while - and it is a GREAT aef generator. If you'd like a (divX) AVI of the same to send around (abut 9.5 meg) try putting the above URL into http://vixy.net Ronnie Darwin. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] L-NAV for sale
I have a glider arriving from USA in a week. It has an L-NAV that is surplus to my requirements. Not sure which software it has, but definitely no logger or GPS included. Best offer over $1000 takes it. Cheers Mark Mark Fisher Sports Technologist Department of Exercise Science and Sport Management Southern Cross University Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66203655 Fax +61 2 66203380 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Monday, 7 August 2006 9:12 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Inspection of gliderfollowingpossibleoverspeed/overload And the reporting/process/action after that.? Wither goest thou then? Ah! To the Delphinic wisdom of the internet of course. Chris McDonnell - Original Message - From: plchampness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: jorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Inspection of glider followingpossibleoverspeed/overload Jorgie says anyone who is not Form 2 rated is the WRONG person to be inspecting this aircraft!! In fact one of the purposes of a Daily Inspection is to detect unsuspected or unreported damage. And a Daily Inspector is authorised to certify a glider as Airworthy for one days flying even if he doesn't know about a previous overspeed or over stress incident. Think about THAT next time you are doing a Daily Inspection on a club glider which has been previously flown by someone you don't know doing something you don't know about. Peter Champness jorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extremely good advise. In fact if your not experienced in these matters then you are the WRONG person to be inspecting the aircraft. Are you even a Form 2 person? If not then you should not be involved in the inpsection in the first place. If you are then you should use this as a learning experience Sean Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VERY good advice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Thursday, 3 August 2006 7:49 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Inspection of glider following possibleoverspeed/overload Should not this be being discussed with your RTOA and not on this forum. That is what he is there for! Chris McDonnell - Original Message - From: Coleman, Ben (RTCA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Inspection of glider following possibleoverspeed/overload G'day all, I am after some opinions on what I should look for on inspection of a glider which may have been overloaded or overspeeded (although neither are likely). Hopefully knowledgeable (and/or opinionated I guess!) people here can assist. One of our club gliders was taken for a flight including a loop. The ASI was malfunctioning (disconnected rear ASI and resultant system leak) which was realised by the pilot just prior to the loop. We are concerned that the speed through the loop may have been excessive, though no flutter was reported. I was asked by the person inspecting the aircraft if there was an inspection regime for overspeed flight. After thinking about it for a while, I have come to the conclusion that the speed itself would not cause damage if no flutter occurred and thus the inspection is for overstressed airframe components only due to excessive G forces through the manouevre. However, I am inexperienced in these matters, thus my query. Thanks, Ben Coleman ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
[Aus-soaring] Borgelt B2000 For Sale
As well as the LNAV, I also have a Borgelt B2000 for sale for $1200. The B2000 requires a B500 vario from www.borgeltinstruments.com Cheers Mark From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Stephenson Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:37 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fw: [cgclist] GFA AGM Seminar FYI - Original Message - From: Peter Stephenson To: **CGC List Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [cgclist] GFA AGM Seminar - Original Message - From: Al Sim To: 'Peter Stephenson' ; 'Ian Perkins' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: RE: [gqlist] GFA AGM Seminar Hi Peter, Thank you fro bringing this to my attention. I have just contacted the GFA to have it rectified. In the meantime you can view the seminar web site by clicking on the following link www.gosoaring.com.au/natseminar Regards, Al communicae 07 5499 4636 / 0405 497 595 www.communicae.com.au From: Peter Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 PM To: Ian Perkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Al Sim' Subject: Re: [gqlist] GFA AGM Seminar Looking at the GFA web site, I cannot see any reference to the AGM and early bird discount which I think should be in the News Section PeterS. - Original Message - From: Ian Perkins To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Al Sim' Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: [gqlist] GFA AGM Seminar Hi all, Please publish this to your club email lists and encourage attendance by your members.The second (larger file) is a printer friendly version for your notice boards. This is the first time that GFA has held an AGM outside Melbourne and we are very keen to encourage this through support from our various clubs. The Seminar looks to me to be very good value and worth every penny to hear/see such a range of legends from our sport. There will be a number of drool machines on display plus trade information and the opportunity to win some handy goodies. Hope to see many of you there. Cheers Ian Ian Perkins President Gliding Queensland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph/Fax: 07.3202 3633 Mb: 0400.066 104 To subscribe to the Gliding Queensland mailing list send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the Gliding Queensland mailing list simply send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 1/08/2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Modified tailwheels
Hi Jeff, Have a look at http://www.ltb-lindner.com/index_e.html Then Click on English then Click on NEWS I have purchased these before. They are very well made, cost was about A$225 including freight from Germany, and shipping time was about one week. Rudolph Lindner is great to do business with. You will need to get clever when gluing this on your aircraft. Sikaflex works best. Email him and say I said hello! Cheers Mark Mark Fisher Sports Technologist Department of Exercise Science and Sport Management Southern Cross University Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66203655 Fax +61 2 66203380 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dav Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:18 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Modified tailwheels Hi Jeff, At Waikerie we have an LS7 with the setup you describe (70mm skate type wheel)-and we are converting it to a standard pneumatic tail wheel, the current setup is somewhat noisy, and harsh, and digs in relatively easily. I guess it would be OK if you operate off bitumen. Good Luck Dave L From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Woodward Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:33 AM To: aus soaring Subject: [Aus-soaring] Modified tailwheels I would like to insert a skate board wheel / in line skate wheel into the bottom of my std cirrus tailskid...rather than the proper pneumatic tailwheel.Has anyone done or attempted this and found any adverse or successful reactions. Jeff Woodward Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] LX20 Logger for sale
I have an LX20 Logger / Nav computer for sale. SW Ver5.11 Approved for badge flights Complete with Cradle for glider mounting, GPS patch antenna, and all cables. Email me offline if interested $1100 a new LX20 will cost you close to $2000. The functions in detail Logger: flight recording according FAI/IGC rules: I-record, J-record barogram engine noise level sensor event-marker (key combination and external switch) recording time 53h at 12s recording measure a great variety of statistical data can be ask direct on the device PC programs for analyzing the flights turnpoints and tasks can be programmed either direct on the LX20, or be prepared on the PC and transferred to the device. photosectors free programmable, AAT-sectors and move-function (new in V5.2) Interface to WinPilot Navigation: navigation pages with track, bearing, distance and ground speed navigation in turnpoint- or in TASK-mode furthermore indication of the wind with direction and speed, wind direction arrow relative to the track, altitude (QNH), averaged climb, difference to the final glide path, MacCready value and ballast. near airport function graphical indication of the airspace, task (route) and/or photosector (zoom values from 1km up to 500km are possible) database with about 5000 airfields (Jeppesen), 600 turning points and 100 tasks with max. 10 points each. Mark Fisher Sports Technologist School of Exercise Science Southern Cross University www.scu.edu.au Ph: +61 2 66203655 Fax +61 2 66203880 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Helping Adelaide Uni GC Hi everyone Last November, Justine captured several frames of Ventus GQH, flown by Cathy Conway, as she did a fly past off our wingtip. Some time later in December we realized that every second frame could be stitched together to make an impressive panorama. See http://miztadave.kicks-ass.net/gallery/For-Sale to see a small version of the pic (also a pic of Justine with a framing suggestion). Since then, the Voluntary Student Unionism (VSU) bill has been passed and it has crippled the support that Adelaide University Sports Association provided to the Adelaide Uni GC. J and I are offering to sell prints of the attached panorama to help raise funds for the club. The prints are on quality gloss paper at 90cm x 20cm (and are not framed). The price is $75 each plus postage with all profits going to AUGC. Please let me know if you are interested in buying a print. Anthony PS The prints have 'Justine 2005' in the bottom right hand corner (not shown on the small version of the pic). You can see it if you look carefully on the pic with Justine. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Tug or Winch Available?
Michael, Please email your phone home number to mark (at) spe.com.au and I'll give you a call this evening. Cheers Mark Mark Fisher Sports Technologist School of Exercise Science Southern Cross University www.scu.edu.au Ph: +61 2 66203655 Fax +61 2 66203880 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Derry Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2006 2:45 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tug or Winch Available? Mark The Irish Gliding Association operated an auto launch operation using wire and a single pulley. Best they achieved was 120 gliders launched in one day to 2,000 feet. It would be difficult to beat this in terms of: -efficiency -minimal skill of operator required -reliability -capital cost -operating cost I suggest that you go to Boonah GC and see how their pulley launch operation works. The form of the pulley launch system that you may adopt would depend on things such as: -runway length (height achievable is similar to a winch ie approx 1/3 times the length) -whether you have lights at the side of the strip -type of surface that you have on the strip -etc My neighbour saw my glider yesterday and offered to be the driver and provide the launch vehicle for both of his kids to learn gliding (they have yet to part with cash and book a course though !) Getting parents involved would be a great way to boost younger members to take up the sport. Deceiding on a launch system is a major decision for any club and will depend on many factors including members previous experiences and whatever skills and resources are readily available. Please give the list some idea of the facilities and conditions of your operation, members experience and other relevant info. Regards Michael Derry Hooked on Pulley Auto Launches join up at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pulleylaunch/ On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:04:39 +1000 Mark Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summerland Gliding Club is re-assessing launch options pending the imminent sale of the Pawnee we are currently hiring. If you have any suggestions, let 'em fly!! We'd be interested in considering all options. Cheers Mark Mark Fisher Sports Technologist School of Exercise Science Southern Cross University www.scu.edu.au Ph: +61 2 66203655 Fax +61 2 66203880 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
