Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Index
You are amazing!!! Thank you guys! Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 22 nov. 2019 à 21:44, 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy > a écrit : > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/B95F5BEE-CE12-46BC-96EF-2F5BD5AF1A4C%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obtaining photocopies or scans of Inventarios from Archives in Ponta Delgada
Thank you Cheri! I’ll give it a try Gustavo > Em 27 de ago de 2019, à(s) 14:39, Cheri Mello escreveu: > > Gustavo, > > You go to their "card catalog" of sorts. It's here: > http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/ <http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/> > I type in a name and the freguesia. (NOTE: Modern Portuguese spellings). I > did "melo tainhas" as I can get away with part of a freguesia name. When it > comes up, click it and scroll to the bottom: > > It's 7 pages (so up to 14 copies) and I've circled the location. > Good luck and happy hunting! > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:31 AM Gustavo Martins <mailto:martins...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hello Margaret! > How did you find this: > > “copy of my findings, > identifying file and its location in their Archives” > > > Thank you > > Gustavo > > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > > Le 26 août 2019 à 13:34, Margaret Vicente > <mailto:margaretvice...@gmail.com>> a écrit : > > > > copy of my findings, > > identifying file and its location in their Archives > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/67A03C99-AA3E-4BCC-8982-88463B27201A%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/67A03C99-AA3E-4BCC-8982-88463B27201A%40gmail.com>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_FSQUNZ707zyPFt-gcbeoo9BvDLFPqyCz7G229DqB9vfg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_FSQUNZ707zyPFt-gcbeoo9BvDLFPqyCz7G229DqB9vfg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/8284A6DD-1FC8-4B08-A428-C1DDD91B1D56%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obtaining photocopies or scans of Inventarios from Archives in Ponta Delgada
Hello Margaret! How did you find this: “copy of my findings, identifying file and its location in their Archives” Thank you Gustavo Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 26 août 2019 à 13:34, Margaret Vicente a écrit > : > > copy of my findings, > identifying file and its location in their Archives -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/67A03C99-AA3E-4BCC-8982-88463B27201A%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Roadblocks in my tree (Cordeiro, Dias, Sequeira) Sao Jorge, Graciosa, maybe Pico
Please, does this book cite the name Francisco Pereira Cabral, he was a military officer (alferes) in the first half of the 1700s. Thank you for any info you can provide. Gustavo Martins Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 22 mai 2019 à 18:35, Analytic Advantage a > écrit : > > I have a book on Urzelina/Velas history written by the Urzelina Sociedade. > I'll take some pictures, I should still have your email. > >> On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 15:37:04 UTC-5, William Seidler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> >> Antonio's first wife is Antonia de Jesus and she is your ancestor (mother of >> Francisco). She died 10 Sep 1833 and Antonio married at least once more >> after that. Here is their marriage: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-C-1808-1825/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-C-1808-1825_item1/P81.html >> >> Do you have a source for Francisco José Cordeiro dying in 1887? On Maria >> Isabel's obit in 1901 it says she is married to him. >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911_item1/P14.html >> >> Bill Seidler >> >> >> >>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 8:31:13 AM UTC-7, Analytic Advantage wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> After 4 years of working on my tree, I've hit some major roadblocks. Is it >>> worth hiring a genealogist? My Portuguese is terrible and I live in Mexico. >>> >>> These are the spots I'm stuck. ANY information is eagerly accepted. >>> >>> >>> 1. >>> >>> Antonio Jose Cordeiro, Matriz Graciosa (my >>> great-great-great-great-grandfather) >>> Wife I: Unknown >>> Wife II: Unknown >>> Son: Francisco Jose Baptista Cordeiro (1828 - 1887) with first wife, >>> Francisco wife: Maria Isabel Cordeiro. They end up in Urzelina (SJ) in >>> 1852 ish >>> Profession: Carpenter >>> >>> 2. >>> >>> Joao Severino Sequiera & Maria Severino da Mota Sequeira >>> Born Almagreira, Santa Maria >>> Daughter: Zulmira Bernardete (Married name Cordeiro), born 1892 in Urzelina >>> >>> I have Zulmiras children and descendants but anything about her parents, >>> siblings, aunts, uncles...anything really >>> >>> 3. >>> >>> Maria De Lordes Dias >>> Born 1895, Urzelina (I'm not sure if this is correct) >>> Parents: Manuel Jorge Dias and Josefina Dias, unknown birthplace (probably >>> sao jorge, graciosa or Pico). >>> >>> I would also gladly welcome any old photos of Urzelina, the people that >>> lived there .. really anything. I've been able to locate ancestors etc in >>> group ohotos, so you never know. >>> >>> Thanks!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/3a65d389-587b-4dea-ae50-69bfa850cb3e%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2BF2155E-140C-4932-B786-9A1BE6A35E69%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Noble Lines
Thank you guys! This is really useful. What about primary sources, where would you find it for a king for example? Em segunda-feira, 13 de maio de 2019 15:41:00 UTC-3, Mara escreveu: > > There are many sources, one of whom is, Felgueiras Gayo Nobilario. Books > available on line, however they are written in Portuguese. > > http://purl.pt/12151/4/ > > Here's where you will find a list for all the names > > > http://genealogiafb.blogspot.com/2018/11/indice-do-nobiliario-de-felgueiras-gayo.html > > > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:34 PM Cheri Mello > wrote: > >> Repost for Gustavo Martins, martinsgusat gmail.com >> Would you please provide or suggest any reliable sources for such noble >> lines. I’m interested in it too. >> >> Thanks >> Gustavo >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G5L7ZK9jHEsYsYxRk3%3DD1yS2RM%3DmJ9ozcQcHf5ZUciyw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G5L7ZK9jHEsYsYxRk3%3DD1yS2RM%3DmJ9ozcQcHf5ZUciyw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c66c9adc-7e0f-4ff0-9ade-a1ab0f16d1de%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
Yes, thank you Fawn, they’re really useful! Thank you again Cheri!! I have wrote before, but I think that mail got lost somewhere in the web! lol! > Em 6 de mar de 2019, à(s) 22:01, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > Bill, thank you for catching my error and for taking the time to look for the > correct record. I think you're right abt the indexer trying to clarify which > Joao this was. They had obviously run into this couple elsewhere in their > indexing of this village. > > Thanks, Cheri for checking out Roccio as a surname. I had never run into it > before either. Glad I know now what it means! > > Gustavo, I'm glad that Cheri pointed you to the indexes. They are a > wonderful help. Good luck! > > And Margaret, thank you for your info. I now have a new word for my personal > Portuguese Language collection! So do we think then maybe that Joao lived > near the town square??? > > Thank you, everyone. I really appreciate your time & input. > > Fawn > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon> > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link> > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:41 PM Gustavo Martins <mailto:martins...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Thank you very much Cheri > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 25 févr. 2019 à 17:35, Margaret Vicente <mailto:margaretvice...@gmail.com>> a écrit : > >> Bill, >> >> >> >> Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread. >> Thought the info might help Fawn. As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation >> was taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das >> ilhas de Portugal. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks again, >> >> >> >> From: bsei2...@gmail.com <mailto:bsei2...@gmail.com> >> Sent: February 25, 2019 2:58 PM >> To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque >> >> >> >> Thank you Margaret. I've pasted your response here where I am sure you >> intended to post it. >> >> >> >> From Margaret: >> >> Hello, one and all. >> >> >> >> For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname. It is >> indicating a place. i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s >> saying. A Rossio is the town square. >> >> >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Gustavo, >> >> >> >> Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. >> We try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs: >> >> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ <http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/> >> >> >> Bookmark or save that site. >> >> >> >> Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island. >> >> >> >> If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the >> webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com <http://mac.com/> >> >> >> If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy the >> URL and send it to Kathy as well. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS > >> wrote: >> >> Hello, Fawn! >> >> >> >> Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from >> that Island. >> >> Would you send me the file, if possible? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Gustavo Martins >> >> Santa Catarina - Brasil >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com <>> escreveu: >> >> >> >> I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index. I appreciate >> all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes >> and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandfather’s name
I read the same: Tarrabazana, and I’ve never seen that name before. It doesn’t sound like a Portuguese name. Maybe Italian, Spanish??... > Em 28 de fev de 2019, à(s) 05:08, leonor.bert...@gmail.com escreveu: > > Hi! Record No. 33, maternal grandfather's name, I can make out Manoel > Pacheco, but the last name looks like Tarrabazana, I have searched it on > google but nothing comes up. Anyone? If it is Tarrabazana, does anyone know > anything about this name? > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1889-1897/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1889-1897_item1/P172.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
Thank you very much Cheri Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 25 févr. 2019 à 17:35, Margaret Vicente a > écrit : > > Bill, > > Indeed, thank you so much for catching it was sent to the wrong thread. > Thought the info might help Fawn. As an fyi the “Rocio/rossio’ explanation > was taken from the book of Padre Antonio Correia, Historia Insulana das ilhas > de Portugal. > > > > > Thanks again, > > From: bsei2...@gmail.com > Sent: February 25, 2019 2:58 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque > > Thank you Margaret. I've pasted your response here where I am sure you > intended to post it. > > From Margaret: > Hello, one and all. > > > For all its worth “do Rocio” is NOT indicative of a Surname. It is > indicating a place. i.e. ‘[do lugar] do Rocio [Rossio] ” that’s what he’s > saying. A Rossio is the town square. > > > > Margaret > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:27:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > Gustavo, > > Everything regarding Azores genealogical research is on the Azores GenWeb. We > try to make it a one-stop shop for our research needs: > http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ > > Bookmark or save that site. > > Point at the Maps, Databases, and pick your island. > > If you have a file you would like donated to the Azores GenWeb, contact the > webmaster, Kathy Cardoza at kmacardoza at mac.com > > If you find a link to an index that would be a helpful finding aid, copy the > URL and send it to Kathy as well. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM Gustavo MARTINS wrote: > Hello, Fawn! > > Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from > that Island. > Would you send me the file, if possible? > Thanks in advance. > > Gustavo Martins > Santa Catarina - Brasil > > > > > > > Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2si...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index. I appreciate > all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes > and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others. Thank you > so much to all who have done this. > > My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism record. > The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao Vieira > Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, there is no > mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document. > > I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from Joao's > marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra who is > married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during this same > time period. > > Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index. Thank you for > any thoughts on this. > > Fawn Silva > St. Louis, MO > > Third baptism down on left side > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Index - Joao Vieira - Sao Roque
Hello, Fawn! Where can I find this Pico Index? I have a lot of ancestors who come from that Island. Would you send me the file, if possible? Thanks in advance. Gustavo Martins Santa Catarina - Brasil > Em 25 de fev de 2019, à(s) 00:34, Fawn Silva <2sil...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > I have a question abt an entry on the AZ Gen Web Pico Index. I appreciate > all the work that has been done in putting together these wonderful indexes > and how much time and effort they have saved me & so many others. Thank you > so much to all who have done this. > > My question is concerning Joao Vieira's daughter, Agueda's baptism record. > The Pico index has Joao's name as Joao Vieira do Rocio (e o Joao Vieira > Bezerra) for this baptism but when I went to the CCA to verify, there is no > mention of the e o Joao Vieira Bezerra in the document. > > I know that Joao Vieira's father's name is Antonio Vieira Bezerra from Joao's > marriage record and also that there is another Joao Vieira Bezerra who is > married to Margarida Pereira who is having children baptized during this same > time period. > > Just wondering abt this e o Joao name mentioned in the index. Thank you for > any thoughts on this. > > Fawn Silva > St. Louis, MO > > Third baptism down on left side > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html > > <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P36.html> > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon> > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores > <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria
Leonor, actually there is a new change. But I totally agree that the most important thing is to get to understand each other, just like me trying to communicate in English! lol! Cheri, I admire your interest for our language. I’m sure you’re gonna make it! For those interested, you can find some info on this page (in Portuguese): http://www.brasil.gov.br/noticias/educacao-e-ciencia/2014/12/acordo-ortografico-so-entrara-em-vigor-em-2016?TSPD_101_R0=0a7749661c6935f1e8127aebd73ac6b0j3891d79cb15c69535c00bc836a6108282a9212ab20005644430efad0f9845f51c7032110bc31b05d7e8bbf2e72b8d45d5782b9956ddb0838e786020a28000424388df9aedb4661d27ab35bb4e83fbde1d5aac9baa39568045d4887844f5d5045637b571f886e Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 16 févr. 2019 à 23:03, Leonor Bertoni a écrit : > > The Portuguese language has changed over the years. The last change was in > 1990 (I think), threw me for a loop, I still revert to writing the words the > way I learned, I never know which way is right sometimes, I figure as long as > they understand what I'm saying, we're good, lol. > >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 20:07, Cheri Mello wrote: >> I'm learning future tense. We haven't got to past tense yet. Although I do >> have a vague idea from taking Spanish in high school. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 5:06 PM Gustavo MARTINS >>> wrote: >>> exactly! In the past form (like made) >>> >>>> Em 16 de fev de 2019, à(s) 21:43, Cheri Mello >>>> escreveu: >>>> >>>> I know the translation is something like "to make a will" and has to do >>>> with the verb "fazer," I believe. >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 3:40 PM Gustavo Martins >>>>> wrote: >>>>> As a native speaker I read: “Fes testamento”, which is an orthography >>>>> mistake, commonly seen. The correct way would be “fez testamento” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gustavo Martins >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Envoyé de mon iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> Le 16 févr. 2019 à 20:33, Cheri Mello a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Typically, the death records state if they was a will or not (in the 2nd >>>>>> and 3rd time periods). So we have to do with what happened historically >>>>>> in the Azores, not what is happening right now in our lifetimes. >>>>>> >>>>>> This looks like "foi testamento" to me (for there "was a will.") >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM Leonor Bertoni >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> I see February 8, 1815. Jose Rodrigues Coelho was married to Benedita >>>>>>> do Esperito Santo. He was 75 years old, farmer (I think). I don't see >>>>>>> anything about a will and have never seen it in my searches but I >>>>>>> haven't been doing this very long. My personal experience growing up in >>>>>>> Sao Miguel is that there is not need for a will because the law says >>>>>>> that whatever someone owns, when s/he dies, is divided in half. Half >>>>>>> goes to the wife and the other half is divided between the kids, if >>>>>>> any. Normally, nothing gets distributed until the last person dies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 17:03, Sandra Valine Dauer >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840_item1/P6.html >>>>>>>> 3rd record on the right please confirm death date: 8th or 18th, age >>>>>>>> 70? or Buria
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria
exactly! In the past form (like made) > Em 16 de fev de 2019, à(s) 21:43, Cheri Mello escreveu: > > I know the translation is something like "to make a will" and has to do with > the verb "fazer," I believe. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 3:40 PM Gustavo Martins <mailto:martins...@gmail.com>> wrote: > As a native speaker I read: “Fes testamento”, which is an orthography > mistake, commonly seen. The correct way would be “fez testamento” > > > Gustavo Martins > > > > > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 16 févr. 2019 à 20:33, Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> a écrit : > >> Typically, the death records state if they was a will or not (in the 2nd and >> 3rd time periods). So we have to do with what happened historically in the >> Azores, not what is happening right now in our lifetimes. >> >> This looks like "foi testamento" to me (for there "was a will.") >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM Leonor Bertoni > <mailto:leonor.bert...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hi, >> I see February 8, 1815. Jose Rodrigues Coelho was married to Benedita do >> Esperito Santo. He was 75 years old, farmer (I think). I don't see anything >> about a will and have never seen it in my searches but I haven't been doing >> this very long. My personal experience growing up in Sao Miguel is that >> there is not need for a will because the law says that whatever someone >> owns, when s/he dies, is divided in half. Half goes to the wife and the >> other half is divided between the kids, if any. Normally, nothing gets >> distributed until the last person dies. >> >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 17:03, Sandra Valine Dauer > <mailto:acore...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840_item1/P6.html >> >> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840_item1/P6.html> >> 3rd record on the right please confirm death date: 8th or 18th, age 70? or >> Burial? Will? Thank you >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores >> <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores >> <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores >> <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores > <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores > <https://groups.google.com/group/azores>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Jose Rodrigues Coelho obit 1815 Altares Terceria
As a native speaker I read: “Fes testamento”, which is an orthography mistake, commonly seen. The correct way would be “fez testamento” Gustavo Martins Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 16 févr. 2019 à 20:33, Cheri Mello a écrit : > > Typically, the death records state if they was a will or not (in the 2nd and > 3rd time periods). So we have to do with what happened historically in the > Azores, not what is happening right now in our lifetimes. > > This looks like "foi testamento" to me (for there "was a will.") > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM Leonor Bertoni >> wrote: >> Hi, >> I see February 8, 1815. Jose Rodrigues Coelho was married to Benedita do >> Esperito Santo. He was 75 years old, farmer (I think). I don't see anything >> about a will and have never seen it in my searches but I haven't been doing >> this very long. My personal experience growing up in Sao Miguel is that >> there is not need for a will because the law says that whatever someone >> owns, when s/he dies, is divided in half. Half goes to the wife and the >> other half is divided between the kids, if any. Normally, nothing gets >> distributed until the last person dies. >> >>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 17:03, Sandra Valine Dauer >>> wrote: >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840/TER-AH-ALTARES-O-1814-1840_item1/P6.html >>> 3rd record on the right please confirm death date: 8th or 18th, age 70? or >>> Burial? Will? Thank you >>> >>> Virus-free. www.avast.com >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Census Document - Pico island - What does "Fogo" mean?
Yes Mary, "Fire = Fogo" is "House" in Census from Brazil and others places. Hugs!! att. Julio <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail> Livre de vírus. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail>. <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Em sex, 11 de jan de 2019 às 18:49, Cheri Mello escreveu: > It's location (city, neighborhood, village), house number, street. In the > Azores, it's City, Street, House number (going from large to small). > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Mary Pimentel Wheeler > wrote: > >> I was able to access a census document that listed one of my ancestor's >> and his family - nice to have and contains good info. I can translate >> almost everything, but there are places where they say a family lived at >> "Fogo 321, Rua do Bagacos". I think FOGO translated literally means fire, >> but this appears to be a house number. Can it also mean something like >> house or home? Maybe loosely translated as "hearth", meaning where the >> family lives? >> >> Thanks translators! >> >> Mary >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- *** *Projeto Genealógico Família Gomes Martins* *http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br <http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br>* *e-mail: gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com * *Fone: (51) 99125 6246* *Tapes - RS - Brasil* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need help with this document
Thank you very much!!
Thanks for your help again.
Very good!!
2018-06-06 22:24 GMT-03:00 Margaret Vicente :
> I actually have 9 children for this couple. Lists already sent.
>
> Regarding Sebastiao Dias and Maria Martins marriage record, here's the
> link, right side, top.
>
> Date: June 2nd 1619
> Sebastiao Dias son of Manuel Goncalves, decesased and of his wife Maria
> Dias, residing in the Parish of Santa Clara {actual Sao Jose],
> with, Maria Martins, daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and of his wife
> Margrida Martins, residing in this Parish of Sao Sebastiao.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1615-1650/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1615-1650_item1/P16.html
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:55 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> These two are part of the six I mentioned. The unknown, his name is
>> Miguel.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Genealogia Gomes Martins <
>> gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Margaret!!
>>>
>>> I soon found a Margaret born in 1636 and another who did not identify
>>> the name in 1637.
>>>
>>> Margarida:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>> SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P66.html
>>>
>>> unknown:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD
>>> -SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P77.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-06-06 16:19 GMT-03:00 Margaret Vicente :
>>>
>>>> Hello Júlio,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Catarina is Domingos’ sister. I have six children for Sebastiao
>>>> Dias and Maria Martins.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll PM you the details later today.
>>>>
>>>> Margaret
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Genealogia Gomes Martins <
>>>> gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank's Cheri.
>>>>
>>>> I found in this other record, a daughter of Sebastião Dias and Maria
>>>> Martins, named Catherina / Catharina born on November 24, 1630.
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>>> SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P22.html
>>>>
>>>> She is the possible sister of Domingos Martins, Margaret???
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for attention!!
>>>>
>>>> att.
>>>>
>>>> Julio
>>>>
>>>> 2018-06-06 14:16 GMT-03:00 Cheri Mello :
>>>>
>>>>> 20 Nov 1596
>>>>>
>>>>> Groom: Sebastiao Alm___?? Senra, son of Sebastiao Alm Senra and
>>>>> Catarina Lopes??
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the parents of Sebastiao (Jr) are not a Sebastiao and Maria
>>>>> Martins, I'm not going any further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Genealogia Gomes Martins <
>>>>> gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Hello friends of this community, Cherri and Margaret,*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need help with this document, which may be the link I seek from my
>>>>>> ancestors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sebastião Dias and Maria Martins* were the parents of *Domingos
>>>>>> Martins*, who married *Maria Branca Rodrigues*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Domingos* and *Maria Branca* are parents of *Antonio Martins*, my
>>>>>> 6th grandfather, he was born in 1665, in the *parish of São José,
>>>>>> Ponta Delgada.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 7th grandfather, Domingos married in 1651 with Maria Branca
>>>>>> Rodrigues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The father of Domingos may be this *Sebastião (...) and Maria
>>>>>> Martins* from the marriage register that I found in the *Parish of
>>>>>> São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, in 1596*, according to I was able to
>>>>>> ana
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need help with this document
Thank you Margaret!! I soon found a Margaret born in 1636 and another who did not identify the name in 1637. Margarida: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P66.html unknown: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P77.html 2018-06-06 16:19 GMT-03:00 Margaret Vicente : > Hello Júlio, > > Yes, Catarina is Domingos’ sister. I have six children for Sebastiao Dias > and Maria Martins. > > I’ll PM you the details later today. > > Margaret > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Genealogia Gomes Martins < > gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank's Cheri. > > I found in this other record, a daughter of Sebastião Dias and Maria > Martins, named Catherina / Catharina born on November 24, 1630. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- > PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P22.html > > She is the possible sister of Domingos Martins, Margaret??? > > Thank you for attention!! > > att. > > Julio > > 2018-06-06 14:16 GMT-03:00 Cheri Mello : > >> 20 Nov 1596 >> >> Groom: Sebastiao Alm___?? Senra, son of Sebastiao Alm Senra and >> Catarina Lopes?? >> >> Since the parents of Sebastiao (Jr) are not a Sebastiao and Maria >> Martins, I'm not going any further. >> >> Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Genealogia Gomes Martins < >> gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> *Hello friends of this community, Cherri and Margaret,* >>> >>> I need help with this document, which may be the link I seek from my >>> ancestors. >>> >>> *Sebastião Dias and Maria Martins* were the parents of *Domingos >>> Martins*, who married *Maria Branca Rodrigues*. >>> >>> *Domingos* and *Maria Branca* are parents of *Antonio Martins*, my 6th >>> grandfather, he was born in 1665, in the *parish of São José, Ponta >>> Delgada.* >>> >>> My 7th grandfather, Domingos married in 1651 with Maria Branca Rodrigues. >>> >>> The father of Domingos may be this *Sebastião (...) and Maria Martins* >>> from the marriage register that I found in the *Parish of São >>> Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, in 1596*, according to I was able to analyze >>> in this document in the link: >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- >>> SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P54.html >>> >>> I needed help transcribing this marriage record for my search. >>> >>> Thanks for the help !! >>> >>> att. >>> >>> Julio Wandam Martins >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > > *** > > *Projeto Genealógico Família Gomes Martins* > *http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br > <http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br>* > *e-mail: gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com * > *Fone: (51) 99125 6246* > *Tapes - RS - Brasil* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- *** *Projeto Genealógico Família Gomes Martins* *http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br <http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br>* *e-mail: gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com * *Fone: (51) 99125 6246* *Tapes - RS - Brasil* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need help with this document
Cheri, I approximate information by time (dates) and by region (location), but by name, which even abbreviated, I can understand. Take the case of Pedro Afonso and Izabel Rodrigues, Catharina's parents, from whom I was able to find the baptismal record on January 16, 1633. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P38.html Catharina was the wife of Manuel Gomes, parents of Izabel Rodrigues Gomes, wife of Antônio Martins Bertão, my 6th grandfather. 2018-06-06 15:19 GMT-03:00 Cheri Mello : > Julio, > > You are the only person who can evaluate your evidence and decide who > belongs in which family. > > Sometimes that means you have to collect them all. All Sebastiao Dias as a > parent or a groom. Then you'll have to figure out how to sort them. > > I have 2 Manuel Correias married to 2 Maria da Sousas in the same > freguesia, having children at the same time! My ancestor is the son of > Manuel Correia and Maria da Sousa, but which one? So I collected ALL kids > born to Manuel and Maria and found both marriages of the 2 Manuels and > Marias. Then I looked at the godparents of the children. One set of gods > appeared over and over. So I assigned them all to one family. And it worked > (at least on paper). I didn't have any babies being born within 9 months of > each other. But is it correct? I don't know. It's a little too far back for > my dad's DNA to reach. So I'm kinda stuck there for now. > > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Genealogia Gomes Martins < > gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank's Cheri. >> >> I found in this other record, a daughter of Sebastião Dias and Maria >> Martins, named Catherina / Catharina born on November 24, 1630. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- >> SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P22.html >> >> She is the possible sister of Domingos Martins, Margaret??? >> >> Thank you for attention!! >> >> att. >> >> Julio >> >> 2018-06-06 14:16 GMT-03:00 Cheri Mello : >> >>> 20 Nov 1596 >>> >>> Groom: Sebastiao Alm___?? Senra, son of Sebastiao Alm Senra and >>> Catarina Lopes?? >>> >>> Since the parents of Sebastiao (Jr) are not a Sebastiao and Maria >>> Martins, I'm not going any further. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Genealogia Gomes Martins < >>> gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> *Hello friends of this community, Cherri and Margaret,* >>>> >>>> I need help with this document, which may be the link I seek from my >>>> ancestors. >>>> >>>> *Sebastião Dias and Maria Martins* were the parents of *Domingos >>>> Martins*, who married *Maria Branca Rodrigues*. >>>> >>>> *Domingos* and *Maria Branca* are parents of *Antonio Martins*, my 6th >>>> grandfather, he was born in 1665, in the *parish of São José, Ponta >>>> Delgada.* >>>> >>>> My 7th grandfather, Domingos married in 1651 with Maria Branca >>>> Rodrigues. >>>> >>>> The father of Domingos may be this *Sebastião (...) and Maria Martins* >>>> from the marriage register that I found in the *Parish of São >>>> Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, in 1596*, according to I was able to analyze >>>> in this document in the link: >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- >>>> SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P54.html >>>> >>>> I needed help transcribing this marriage record for my search. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the help !! >>>> >>>> att. >>>> >>>> Julio Wandam Martins >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I need help with this document
Thank's Cheri. I found in this other record, a daughter of Sebastião Dias and Maria Martins, named Catherina / Catharina born on November 24, 1630. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1627-1640_item1/P22.html She is the possible sister of Domingos Martins, Margaret??? Thank you for attention!! att. Julio 2018-06-06 14:16 GMT-03:00 Cheri Mello : > 20 Nov 1596 > > Groom: Sebastiao Alm___?? Senra, son of Sebastiao Alm Senra and > Catarina Lopes?? > > Since the parents of Sebastiao (Jr) are not a Sebastiao and Maria Martins, > I'm not going any further. > > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Genealogia Gomes Martins < > gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> *Hello friends of this community, Cherri and Margaret,* >> >> I need help with this document, which may be the link I seek from my >> ancestors. >> >> *Sebastião Dias and Maria Martins* were the parents of *Domingos Martins*, >> who married *Maria Branca Rodrigues*. >> >> *Domingos* and *Maria Branca* are parents of *Antonio Martins*, my 6th >> grandfather, he was born in 1665, in the *parish of São José, Ponta >> Delgada.* >> >> My 7th grandfather, Domingos married in 1651 with Maria Branca Rodrigues. >> >> The father of Domingos may be this *Sebastião (...) and Maria Martins* >> from the marriage register that I found in the *Parish of São Sebastião, >> Ponta Delgada, in 1596*, according to I was able to analyze in this >> document in the link: >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- >> SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P54.html >> >> I needed help transcribing this marriage record for my search. >> >> Thanks for the help !! >> >> att. >> >> Julio Wandam Martins >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- *** *Projeto Genealógico Família Gomes Martins* *http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br <http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br>* *e-mail: gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com * *Fone: (51) 99125 6246* *Tapes - RS - Brasil* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] I need help with this document
*Hello friends of this community, Cherri and Margaret,* I need help with this document, which may be the link I seek from my ancestors. *Sebastião Dias and Maria Martins* were the parents of *Domingos Martins*, who married *Maria Branca Rodrigues*. *Domingos* and *Maria Branca* are parents of *Antonio Martins*, my 6th grandfather, he was born in 1665, in the *parish of São José, Ponta Delgada.* My 7th grandfather, Domingos married in 1651 with Maria Branca Rodrigues. The father of Domingos may be this *Sebastião (...) and Maria Martins* from the marriage register that I found in the *Parish of São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, in 1596*, according to I was able to analyze in this document in the link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P54.html I needed help transcribing this marriage record for my search. Thanks for the help !! att. Julio Wandam Martins -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List of immigrants for Brazil, between 1733 and 1743 coming from the Azores, Island of São Miguel
Thank's Cheri!! Hugs from Brazil! att. Julio <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail> Livre de vírus. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail>. <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> 2018-02-02 17:49 GMT-02:00 Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>: > Julio W, > > For the island of Sao Miguel, the only passaportes that are in existence > begin in 1875. There are missing gaps in between. Everything that they have > has been digitized and placed online at the CCA site. You can use Tombo.pt > as a portal to access the CCA site, as navigation the site is much easier > through Tombo.pt. > > Angra and Horta have older Passaporte records. You could check on of the > other ports to see if he left there. If he did not leave from Angra or > Horta, then you are stuck. The records are missing and there is no way to > know. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- *** *Projeto Genealógico Família Gomes Martins* *http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br <http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br>* *e-mail: gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com <gene.gomesmart...@gmail.com>* *Fone: (51) 99125 6246* *Tapes - RS - Brasil* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] List of immigrants for Brazil, between 1733 and 1743 coming from the Azores, Island of São Miguel
Hello friends of the Azores Forum, I try to find some list of immigrants for Brazil, between 1733 and 1743, coming from the Azores, from the Island of São Miguel. I found in Tombo's Tower, lists of passports from the year 1875 onwards. There are also lists of immigrants after the royal edict that authorized the arrival of Azoreans between 1746 and 1748. My ancestor, João Gomes Martins, was born in 1709, on the Island of São Miguel, and his father died in 1732, on the same island of São Miguel, in the parish of São José. I believe he migrated to Brazil between the dates indicated above, his mother, Isabel Gomes had died before Antonio Martins 'Bertão'. At this time, he would be between 24 and 34 years old, and in Brazil he married Maria da Apresentação, a native of Sant'Ana, Mariana, Minas Gerais, being the daughter of lieutenant Manoel Pereyra Machado and Anna Baptista Caldas, possibly natural of Sao Paulo. I found with the invaluable help of Margaret Vicente, great details and data on these ancestors, but now I am looking to know the dates of passage of this João Gomes Martins to Brazil, in what year this occurred, in which vessel, in which port arrived, to explore this This trajectory of this Azorean that generated descendants in Minas Gerais, between 1744 and 1751, with 5 children born in Monsenhor Horta, Mariana, Minas Gerais. Well, if you know of any migration lists between 1733 and 1743, I would greatly appreciate the help! A hug to everyone! Att. * Olá amigos do Fórum Azores Procuro encontrar alguma lista de imigrantes ao Brasil, entre 1733 e 1743, vindos dos Açores, da Ilha de São Miguel. Encontrei na Torre do Tombo, listas de passaportes do ano de 1875 em diante. Também existem listas de imigrantes após o édito real que autorizou a vinda de açorianos entre 1746 e 1748. Meu ancestral, João Gomes Martins, nasceu em 1709, na Ilha de São Miguel, e seu pai faleceu em 1732, na mesma Ilha de São Miguel, na Freguesia de São José. Acredito ele tenha migrado ao Brasil entre as datas acima indicadas, pois sua mãe, Isabel Gomes havia falecido antes de Antonio Martins 'Bertão'. Neste tempo, ele teria entre 24 e 34 anos de idade, e no Brasil casou com Maria da Apresentação, natural de Sant'Ana, Mariana, Minas Gerais, sendo ela filha do alferes Manoel Pereyra Machado e de Anna Baptista Caldas, possivelmente natural de São Paulo. Há um material escrito que cita, que entre 1722 e 1 Encontrei com a inestimável ajuda de Margaret Vicente, grandes detalhes e dados sobre estes ancestrais, mas agora busco saber as datas de passagem deste João Gomes Martins ao Brasil, em que ano isso ocorreu, em qual embarcação, em qual porto chegou, para explorar esta trajetória deste açoriano que gerou descendentes em Minas Gerais, entre 1744 e 1751, com 5 filhos nascidos em Monsenhor Horta, Mariana, Minas Gerais. Bom, caso saibam de alguma lista de migração entre 1733 e 1743, agradeceria imensamente a ajuda! Um abraço à todos! att. Julio Wandam http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Procuro informações sobre Antonio Martins e Isabel Gomes na Freguesia de São José, Ponta Delgada
Thank you, very much!!! Hugs from Brazil!! att. Julio Em quinta-feira, 11 de janeiro de 2018 14:41:51 UTC-2, Genealogia Gomes Martins escreveu: > > Olá!! > > Procuro informações sobre Antonio Martins, nasceu entre 1690 e 1710, na > freguesia de São José, cidade de Ponta Delgada, llha de São Miguel, Açores > e de sua mulher, Izabel Gomes, também natural deste lugar nas ilhas de > Portugal. > > Este foco estou pesquisando na Torre do Tombo, mas se existem informações > acerca deles em outras fontes, teria satisfação em conhecê-las. > > Não sei se vieram ao Brasil, ou se apenas seu filho que seria o João Gomes > Martins, nasceu entre 1724 e 1727, ou na Ilha de São Miguel, mas em Minas > Gerais, na freguesia de São Caetano do Rio do Carmo, MG por volta de 1725 a > 1730 casou com Maria da Aprezentação, nascida entre 1725 e 1730, filha de > Manoel Pereyra Machado, natural de Braga, Portugal e de Anna Baptista > Caldas, natural de São Paulo. Estes laços encontrei no Family Search em um > registro de nascimento de uma neta de Antônio Martins e Izabel Gomes. > > No registro consta até mesmo a rua, como segue: "Rua do Maranham, Freg.a > de Sam Joze da cidade de Ponta Delgada, da Ilha de Sam Miguel, bispado de > Angra", onde após fazer uma pesquisa, sei que a Rua do Maranhão em Ponta > Delgada fica em Capelas, onde tem uma igreja dedicada a Nossa Senhora da > Apresentação. > > Envio um arquivo com o rastro destas pessoas, encontrados no registro de > batismo de nascimento de Maria Gomes, em 1749 em São Caetano do Rio do > Carmo, atuam Monsenhor Horta, bispado de Mariana, Minas Gerais, Brasil. > > Muito Obrigado! > > att. > > Julio Wandam MARTINS > veja nosso blog > http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br > > > Hello!! > > I'm looking for information about Antonio Martins, born between 1690 and > 1710, in the parish of São José, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Azores and his > wife, Izabel Gomes, also natural of this place in the islands of Portugal. > > This focus I am researching at Torre do Tombo, but if there is information > about them from other sources, I would be happy to meet them. > > I do not know if they came to Brazil, or if only his son, João Gomes > Martins, was born between 1724 and 1727, or on the Island of São Miguel, > but in Minas Gerais, in the parish of São Caetano do Rio do Carmo, from > 1725 to 1730 he married Maria da Aprezentação, born between 1725 and 1730, > the daughter of Manoel Pereyra Machado, a native of Braga, Portugal, and > Anna Baptista Caldas, a native of São Paulo. These ties I found in Family > Search on a birth record of a granddaughter of Antônio Martins and Izabel > Gomes. > > On record appears even the street, as follows: "Street Maranham, Freg.a > Sam Joze city of Ponta Delgada, the Sam Miguel Island, bishopric of Angra" > where after doing some research, I know the Street Maranhão in Ponta > Delgada is in Chapels, which has a church dedicated to Our Lady of the > Presentation. > > I send a file with the trace of these people, found in the birth > certificate of Maria Gomes, in 1749 in São Caetano do Rio do Carmo, in > Monsignor Horta, in Mariana, Minas Gerais, Brazil. > > Thank you!! > > att. > > Julio Wandam MARTINS > see our blog > http://genealogia-gomesmartins.blogspot.com.br > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: J1-M365 type in two Azorean Islands: Ilha de São Miguel e Ilha do Pico
My father-in-law is from Ribeira do Meio Lajes, Pico. My uncle in from Monte, Candelaria, his mother was from Criacao Velha and his father from Monte, His paternal grand-father was from Sao Mateus and his paternal grandmother from Monte. I hope this clarifies some of the confusion. Manny On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 1:29:20 PM UTC-4, Ricardo Costa de Oliveira wrote: Thanks Cheri You are right. The samples are from Pico and they are related to the family of Senhor Manuel Martins. I think he also participates in this group. When we talked he told he was from the Zona da Madalena (Criação velha e vizinhanças) but his uncle and father-in-law were from other places in Pico. Best Ricardo -- Ricardo, You said: One kit lists Sao Mateus and the other lists Lajes. I don't know where you got Criação Velha from. The N kit and the kit you compared yourself to are not part of the Azores project. :( Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Monte de Cima, Pico
The place called Monte, where I grew up, consists of Monte de Baixo and Monte de Cima, the town sits between two hills, the lower and the higher hill. I belongs to Candelaria even though it's closer to Criacao Velha. In Monte there are places called Pocinho, Calhau and Mingato. Who has family from Monte de Cima? I would be interested as my maternal grandfather's mother's family is from Monte and I grew up there. Thank you Manny On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:26:19 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Monte de Cima on Pico belongs to which freguesia? Thanks! -Cheri -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jewish cemetery in Faial
It is in a corner of the Horta cemetery. These are jewish families that came to Faial from Morocco, part of the Bensaude family. On Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:37:24 AM UTC-4, Shirl Sereque wrote: Noelia - The Jewish Cemetery is in Horta (La cidade da Horta) and was built in 1852. That's as close as I can get to an address! - Shirl - On Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:47 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Repost for Olivia or Lolly or Noelia, nlollyanne123 at gmail.com Could anyone tell me where exactly the jewish cemetery is in Faial. I am from there and frequent my hometown of Praia do Norte. I am very curious about this cemetery and would love to find it. Thank you for your help Noelia D' Andrade -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help translating a birt record
Nestor Notice the V in Villa and N for N.4 On 5/16/2014 3:06 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: I really think the father is Nestor, not Victor. Compare the V to the word Villa a few lines above. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net mailto:shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: This is how I read it: Antonio 13 Feb 1902, at 9:00 a.m. BAPT 14 Feb 1902, Nossa Senhora Pilar - Cedros, Flores island PARENTS (Victor Thomaz Furtado X Maria Trindade de Freitas) Natives PATERNAL Francisco Thomaz Furtado X Policense??? de Jesus MATERNAL Antonio Caetano? Trindade X Maria Filomena de Sousa GODFATHER Antonio de Sousa, married GODMOTHER Maria Victorina de Sousa, married Hope this helps. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy mailto:azores@googlegroups.com *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 11:22 AM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] need help translating a birt record http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1897-1911_item1/P36.html #4 Antonio Thomas thank you carmen -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismal of Boaventura.
Boaventura son of Manoel Furtado Salvador and his wife Marianna Roza paternal grandson of Manoel Furtado *Salvador ***and Rita dos Santos. *Maternal grandson of Manuel Furtado Rodrigues and Francisca**dos Santos, godparents Manuel Ventura and Ana?? Maxima?? * On 5/13/2014 8:30 PM, climbatr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again. I am still trying to pin down one of the grandfather's surnames. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P41.html top left Boaventura son of Manoel Furtado Salvador and his wife Marianna Roza paternal grandson of Manoel Furtado __ and Rita dos Santos. This guy's name doesn't seem to ever look the same. It looks like Balenval, Balouva Thanks. Suzanne -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage record for Antonio de Oliveira and Rosa da Trindade 1736 Sao Jose P.D.
Simoes? On 5/12/2014 11:14 AM, Herb wrote: Erica it is difficult to make out, but could Miguel Sinseyra ja defuncto meaning he had already passed. the first name is definitely Miguel. The only other name that I see it could be is Teixeira but I don't see an X. If it is Sinseyra or Sincerya, it is a very unusual name, not something I have seen before. I could be completely off, but trying to help. Sincerya seems right to me. Fortunately for us there are some on here who are very good at reading some of these more difficult records. Good luck Herb On Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote: I need help with the last name of the father of Rosa da Trindade. I read his first name as Miguel. Right page http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1730-1745/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1730-1745_item1/P60.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1730-1745/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1730-1745_item1/P60.html Thank you, Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on Reading Docs
#6 - 11 AM on 21 of September of last year (1904) #7 - 4 AM on 6 of November of last year (1904) On 5/7/2014 5:23 PM, BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy wrote: Sorry everyone I did not know the page or photo I sent did not turn out. Please take a look at this link I need information on # 6 and #7. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1904-1911_item1/P32.html Please see below In a message dated 5/7/2014 10:37:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, azores@googlegroups.com writes: Hi everyone. I am having some issue on reading the attached document. I have most of the information on both parties. #6 is Rosa dos Reis was born, ( I am not able to read the birth date) to Felicio Dos Reis and Esther Corriea da Silva #7 is Manuel Espionla da Veiga was born ( not able to read birth date) to Manuel Espionla da Veiga and Filomena Olivera da Gloria Can you assist. I am sorry but I am learning on reading information on names and things like that but birth dates, i.e. month date and year are hard for me. Thank you Thank you*/ Bob Camacho/* Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciosa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH BIRTH RECORD
I believe it says 1st Certidao em os 22 de Junho de 1860 On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:17:34 AM UTC-4, carmen furtado wrote: what does it say under the name jacinto? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1825-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1825-1832_item1/P274.html thank you carmen -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flights to Azores
SATA flies to Ponta Delgada from Boston year round, however, connecting flights to the other islands can be challenging, I normally fly Boston to Ponta Delgada in the evening and then take the 9AM flight to Pico. Everything can be done via the website I no longer call the Fall River, I used to spent to much time on hold. The return flight from Pico makes a technical stop in Terceira. In the winter months I have to spend a night in Sao Miguel. Plan you itinerary. If flying out of Terceira, it's a 1/2 less but it's only available during a certain period of the year. Stop there and go see a bull fight. I'll second Cheri's suggestion of staying overnight in Boston both ways. It's a beautiful city and we have some great Portuguese restaurants and clubs that serve food. Manny On 4/28/2014 2:26 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: Carol, The travel agent for Artesia was named Ana. I don't remember her last name. She no longer works as an agent. She is David's cousin. I know when I go, I prefer to fly to the east coast and spend a day or 2 visiting people and then on to the Azores. The jet lag isn't so hard for me that way. But that's my own preference. The last time one of my student's went, they flew non-stop from Oakland to TER. She told me her mom said that they will never do that again, as it was just too long up in the air for them. Again, personal preference. I think the airports that go directly to the Azores are Oakland, Boston, Toronto, and I don't remember what else. Starting sometime in the spring and ending sometime in the fall, you can fly directly to the Azores from North America. The other times of the year, you have to get to Europe and then fly back. Something about the flight patterns. Ed de Melo is a travel agent on this list. Maybe he has contacted you by now. SATA operates in America as Azores Express. Their office is in Fall River, Massachusetts: http://goo.gl/reeCra On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com mailto:cdwarn...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what is the best way to fly to the Azores from Los Angeles? Would it be through Boston,Toronto or NYC and flying directly to Terceria or should we go through Lisbon to Terceirra? We especially want to take in Pico de Lajes and Madeleina. Does anyone remeember the name of the travel agent who arrranged the Artesia DES Band trip or the San Diego Filarmonica Band Trip? Any help would be appreciated! Carol Silva Warnock PS: My daughter even suggested San Diego to Heathrow (London UK) then to Lisbon then Terceira. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Name help
Hello, I hope someone here could offer some help with the father's last name abbreviation for the marriage. What I read from the marriage is: Pedro de Faria son of Pedro [Joao/Goas] and his wife Maria Pereira. I'm not sure is the last name is an abbreviation or just Joao. The ancestor is Alferes Pedro de Faria (b. ~1729 d. 18-Apr-1784) married to Rita Maria Andrade. I found a Pedro born on 17/19 Jan 1729 son of Pedro Goncalves(z) and Maria de Freitas which falls within his birth range however there is a discrepancy with the parents names. It is possible that the father is Pedro Joao Goncalves and the mother Maria [Pereira de Freitas/de Freitas Pereira]. Pedro's birth, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1725-1734_item1/P99.html Pedro and Rita marriage, left page top http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772/PIC-MD-MADALENA-C-1748-1772_item1/P77.html (Alferes) Pedro's death, left page bottom http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1758-1785_item1/P185.html Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?
Spoke with my mother this morning to confirm the story she once told me. She used to hear from her aunt whom was born in the late 1800, if a grave was open after 7 years and the body had not decomposed completely the body was blessed by the priest and the coveiro (gravedigger) would beat the body and reburied it. She believes that the beating was to help speed the decomposition. May be beating is not the correct word here. As for the body out to sea. She remembers of a story of someone from Madalena with a very bad reputation that was buried twice and after the second time the body was still intact it was decided to dump the body in the ocean. As for saints who's body did not decomposes, when opening graves they are other signs like the fragrances of flowers. Manny On 4/23/2014 7:33 PM, Isabella Baltar wrote: Manuel, ...taken out to sea where they would beat the body and dump it in the ocean... Where did you read that? Do you have any information? I really would like to learn more about as I never heard this. Even if what you have is written in Portuguese, as it is my primary language. I will appreciate that. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:22:02 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Manuel M, Manuel said: In the old days if a grave is dug and the body was still intact, it was reburied for another 7 years, if it is still intact the body after that time the body it taken and put on a boat and taken out to sea where they would beat the body and dump it in the ocean. I do not know what is the current process after 7 years. They beat the body??? I guess back in those days they didn't know that the ocean would decompose the body. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?
Every parish had a cemetery, the oldest grave was the first to be used, families that had means could by the grave and any family member could be buried there after 7 years, the length of time differed between cemeteries. Some areas decomposed the body faster than others. In Madalena for example, they used to add lime to the graves to speed the process. Now 4 vases with liquid are added to the coffins, this is done because now a days many pass away in Horta, Terceira or Sao Miguel and by law for the body to travel it has to be inside a zinc box inside the coffin, before the coffin is lowered it is opened and a whole is cut in the zinc box this starts the decomposing process. In the old days if a grave is dug and the body was still intact, it was reburied for another 7 years, if it is still intact the body after that time the body it taken and put on a boat and taken out to sea where they would beat the body and dump it in the ocean. I do not know what is the current process after 7 years. Most families knew where their loved ones were buried, some marked the graves with a cross others stopped by once in a while to drop flowers or prayed. But people mostly offered masses or donated to the poor in the deceased name. Visiting the grave site was not the tradition that I remember. A paid grave can be reused in times of need or when there are no other graves available. Manny On 4/22/2014 11:36 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Same happens in Hungary. I did a search for my great-great-grandfather there and found the cemetery, but no sign of his remains or headstone (if he ever had one) from the 1860s. But one way to look at it is also beneficial. I found in one Hungarian village someone with the same rather unique surname and it turned out to be the brother of my great-great-grandmother. I think the headstone was from the early 1900s and the fact it's still there (a very nice and tall tombstone) tells me someone has been paying for it and I have yet to track them down. They would be fairly close cousins. Same thing for me in Piedade, Pico. I found a Leal da Rosa headstone, pretty new, and knew there was a cousin not far away. I did find them and they were 4th or 5th cousins, I believe. I wonder if the cemetery makes some kind of notification before removal. Otherwise, I think many more might be gone if people forgot to renew. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com http://www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true? From: Herb herbandj...@verizon.net mailto:herbandj...@verizon.net Date: Tue, April 22, 2014 6:32 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Yes it's true. I have lived and travelled to dozens of countries and this practice is common all over the world. There isn't enough room for all the bodies. My grandfather died in Terceira and was buried there in 1940, aged 40. When I lived in Terceira I went to the cemeteries to search for his headstone or some information on him and found out his bones had been removed 7 years after the burial. In Terceira it was 7 years I don't know about the other islands. In Guam I think it was 11 years after burial when I lived there. When I lived in the UK they leased plots for a period of 25 50 or 99 years. It's the same in Australia. Paris and Rome have famous ossuaries and catacombs -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco
Antonio Homem and Josefa dos Ramos. Notice the H after the Antonio abbreviation. The R for Ramos was hard but that's the only word that make sense. On 4/22/2014 1:04 PM, Dano wrote: Diane, with difficult records I sometimes find it easier to copy out the narrative in Portuguese, then translate it to English. Also, sometimes enlarging the document helps to make out some of the more difficult words. Anyway, This is what I came up with: /Francisco, son of Francisco Goncalves, native of this place of Feteiras, and his wife Rita Ignacia, native of the parish of the Apostle Sao Matheus of Pico, and members of the above church of the Apostle Sao Matheus/ [rather] parish of Divino Espirito Santo; Paternal grandson of Manoel Goncalves and Agada Maria, and Maternal [grandson] of Antonio Correia and Maria dos [Marecos?], was born on the twenty-fifth day of the month of October, 1822, and was baptized by me, the Vicar signed below, on the third of November of this same year. Godfather was Manoel Joze Correia, and Godmother, Anna Feliciana, his sister, children of Manoel Joze Correia and Maria Felicia. Witnesses were Antonio de Medeiros, treasurer, and Francisco de Vargas. For the record I dated as above. [ Vicar Joao Vieira da Rosa; Antonio de Medeiros; and, Francisco de Vargas]/ // On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:57:30 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote: I am having difficulty translating the following baptism record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P166.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P166.html for Francisco. His entry is on the right bottom of the page Here is what I have: Francisco, son of Francisco Gonsalves, native of Feteira, and his wife Rita Inacia, native of Apostalo de Matheus do Pico, and Frequesia of ? (several words after are unintelligible) , paternal grandparents Manuel Gonsalves and Agada Maria(?), maternal grandparents Antonio Correia and Josefa ? , born on the 25^th day of October?, 1822 and baptized on the 3^rd day of November, 1822. Godfather Manuel Jose Correia and ? Anna Felicia, daughter of Manuel Jose Correia. The rest makes no sense to me except that I see a few names strung together. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FARIA from Contra Costa, CA
Sammie, Do you know from which island your great-grandfater was? That will help NAME: ManoelFaria BIRTH: abt 1877 - Azores;St Michael DEPARTURE: Mlichaels ARRIVAL:2 Nov 1907 - New York, New York RESIDENCE: Azores, Autonomous Regions of Portugal NAME: ManoelPFaria BIRTH: abt 1877 DEPARTURE: St Michaels, Azores, Portugal ARRIVAL:9 Jan 1907 - Boston, Massachusetts RESIDENCE: United States of America On 4/9/2014 11:50 AM, S. Faria Lepre wrote: Hi Cheri, Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I just assumed that since my subject heading said California, people would know that's where I was talking about. Port Costa is a census-designated place in Contra Costa County, CA. Manuel was living there in 1900 apparently. After that, most of my records had the family living in Richmond, Contra Costa County, CA. Thanks too for the clarification on the name. I figured that Manoel was the Portuguese spelling. Funny, last night after posting this, I was digging around in ship passenger lists and found a Manoel, but whoever transcribed the information thought the o in his name was an s and so now there are several records that say Mansel Faria! All the name spelling changes sure makes it hard to track a specific person! :) I found several records then in the ship passenger lists, with many Manoel's and many surname variations like de Faria, Ferreira, Pereira, Farie, Farria, and Farias. The only one who was close to the age my Manuel was said to have been during immigration was a Mansel (Manoel) Faria who was 18 (year of birth abt.1875) and on the ship Peninsular which arrived in NY, NY 9 May 1893. He was a laborer and from Fayal, Azores. He was going to Fall River, MA. The dates are a little off from my Manuel: my records had his immigration year as 1894 when he was 17, and his year of birth as 1877. The dates and ages from the ship's record I found last night are off about a year or two, so not sure if I have the right person still. I also don't know if Manuel was on a ship that went directly from the Azores to San Francisco or if he was one of many Manuel Faria's who went to Boston and then to Fall River, MA. Sam On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:11:09 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Sammie, Since you are writing to a worldwide audience, you're going to have to put more clarification on some places. No clue where Port Costa is. At the time your ancestor was born, the spelling was Manoel. He probably learned to modernize after his immigration. Feria would be a non-Portuguese person guessing how to spell Faria. Many immigrated to the eastern ports: New York, Boston, Providence, New Bedford. Then many went overland to CA. A few did go around the horn and immigrated through San Francisco. Some went to HI first then CA. A 30+ pages of how to can be found on the Azores Gen Web here: http://goo.gl/4CHqo1 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:04 PM, S. Faria Lepre lepr...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi, I'm researching my family and keep hitting a brick wall trying to pin down the right personMy great-grandfather was Manuel P. Faria. I've also seen his name spelled Manual, and Manoel. I've also found records on Ancestry where our last name was spelled Feria. I have a U.S. Census record from 1900 which has him listed as Manuel Feria, born 1877, married to Emma Feria (Her maiden name was Enos), Marriage year 1900. Manuel was 23 at the time of that census and living in Port Costa. Immigration year is listed as 1894 and he was 17 years old at that time. I have searched and searched. There are a lot of Manuel Faria's out there! I cannot find a record of his birth, his marriage, or his immigration. His birth year changes depending on what record I'm looking at: it varies from 1876-1878, as does the immigration date: 1894-1895. I found more census records on him and Emma from 1910 and 1920, but in the 1930 census the head of household becomes John S. Faria, and by the 1940 census, Emma is the sole head of household. I cannot find a death record on Manuel to explain this, and I'm perplexed as to who John S. may be. I cannot find anything on Emma Enos either, at least not the one I'm looking for. Manuel and Emma had 9 children and all appeared to have been born in Contra Costa, CA: Manuel George, Lawrence Daniel (my grandfather), Mary Evelyn/Evelyn Mary, John H., Anthony, Philomena, Margaret, Frances, and Roseanne/Rose. I also have a question about immigration. When people left the Azores during that immigration I gave previously (1894-1895), did they always go to Boston or New York or other eastern port, or were there ships that took immigrants directly to California?
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FARIA from Contra Costa, CA
Here's a 1920 census, It does show as Manuel P Faria, 2734 Pine 26th St Contra Costa, CA Manual P Faria [Minne R Faria] [Manuel P Farris] Age:42 Birth Year:abt 1878 Birthplace:Portugal Home in 1920:Richmond, Contra Costa, California Race:White Gender:Male Immigration Year:1894 Relation to Head of House:Head Marital Status:Married Spouse's Name:Emma Faria Father's Birthplace:Portugal Mother's Birthplace:Portugal Home Owned:Own Able to Read:Yes Able to Write:Yes Household Members: NameAge Manual P Faria42 Emma Faria39 Manual Faria17 Lawrence Faria12 Evelyn Faria10 John Faria6 Anthony Faria5 Philomena Faria4 [4 3/12] Margaret Faria3 [3 0/12] Frances Faria1 [1 6/12] On 4/9/2014 1:03 PM, luiznoia . wrote: Sammie, The draft notice here, with wife's name, shows he is Manuel P Feria born Jan 1877 The John T Faria on the 1930 census seems to me to be the same person as Manuel. He may have taken american name. The age and immigration dates match. On the 1940 census, note that although Emma is the head of household, she is listed as married and not widowed. Emma's death record FARIA EMMA 1880 07 12 mothers last-VARGAS fathers last-ENOS FEMALE CA SANTA CLARA 1957 09 30 77yrs Eric Edgar On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:50 AM, S. Faria Lepre lepre@gmail.com mailto:lepre@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cheri, Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I just assumed that since my subject heading said California, people would know that's where I was talking about. Port Costa is a census-designated place in Contra Costa County, CA. Manuel was living there in 1900 apparently. After that, most of my records had the family living in Richmond, Contra Costa County, CA. Thanks too for the clarification on the name. I figured that Manoel was the Portuguese spelling. Funny, last night after posting this, I was digging around in ship passenger lists and found a Manoel, but whoever transcribed the information thought the o in his name was an s and so now there are several records that say Mansel Faria! All the name spelling changes sure makes it hard to track a specific person! :) I found several records then in the ship passenger lists, with many Manoel's and many surname variations like de Faria, Ferreira, Pereira, Farie, Farria, and Farias. The only one who was close to the age my Manuel was said to have been during immigration was a Mansel (Manoel) Faria who was 18 (year of birth abt.1875) and on the ship Peninsular which arrived in NY, NY 9 May 1893. He was a laborer and from Fayal, Azores. He was going to Fall River, MA. The dates are a little off from my Manuel: my records had his immigration year as 1894 when he was 17, and his year of birth as 1877. The dates and ages from the ship's record I found last night are off about a year or two, so not sure if I have the right person still. I also don't know if Manuel was on a ship that went directly from the Azores to San Francisco or if he was one of many Manuel Faria's who went to Boston and then to Fall River, MA. Sam On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:11:09 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Sammie, Since you are writing to a worldwide audience, you're going to have to put more clarification on some places. No clue where Port Costa is. At the time your ancestor was born, the spelling was Manoel. He probably learned to modernize after his immigration. Feria would be a non-Portuguese person guessing how to spell Faria. Many immigrated to the eastern ports: New York, Boston, Providence, New Bedford. Then many went overland to CA. A few did go around the horn and immigrated through San Francisco. Some went to HI first then CA. A 30+ pages of how to can be found on the Azores Gen Web here: http://goo.gl/4CHqo1 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:04 PM, S. Faria Lepre lepr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm researching my family and keep hitting a brick wall trying to pin down the right personMy great-grandfather was Manuel P. Faria. I've also seen his name spelled Manual, and Manoel. I've also found records on Ancestry where our last name was spelled Feria. I have a U.S. Census record from 1900 which has him listed as Manuel Feria, born 1877, married to Emma Feria (Her maiden name was Enos), Marriage year 1900. Manuel was 23 at the time of that census and living in Port Costa. Immigration year is listed as 1894 and he was 17 years old at that time. I have searched and searched. There are a lot of Manuel Faria's out there! I cannot find a record of his
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FARIA from Contra Costa, CA
Here are a few links from Faial that fall within Manuel's birth date of 1976/7, the marriage certificate would help to clarify the parents name. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Almoxarife;lang=pt;i=6315;oc=265 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=capelo;lang=pt;i=9459;oc=491 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=PraiaNorte;lang=pt;i=1427;oc=29 On 4/9/2014 3:11 PM, Pam Santos wrote: Manuel Pera Faria Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 Sep 1869 Birth Place:Other Country Death Date: 29 Nov 1943 Death Place:Contra Costa On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com mailto:pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: he also could of come to California via Hawaii On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Manuel Martins kambb...@gmail.com mailto:kambb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a 1920 census, It does show as Manuel P Faria, 2734 Pine 26th St Contra Costa, CA Manual P Faria [Minne R Faria] [Manuel P Farris] Age:42 Birth Year:abt 1878 Birthplace:Portugal Home in 1920:Richmond, Contra Costa, California Race:White Gender:Male Immigration Year:1894 Relation to Head of House:Head Marital Status:Married Spouse's Name:Emma Faria Father's Birthplace:Portugal Mother's Birthplace:Portugal Home Owned:Own Able to Read:Yes Able to Write:Yes Household Members: NameAge Manual P Faria42 Emma Faria39 Manual Faria17 Lawrence Faria12 Evelyn Faria10 John Faria6 Anthony Faria5 Philomena Faria4 [4 3/12] Margaret Faria3 [3 0/12] Frances Faria1 [1 6/12] On 4/9/2014 1:03 PM, luiznoia . wrote: Sammie, The draft notice here, with wife's name, shows he is Manuel P Feria born Jan 1877 The John T Faria on the 1930 census seems to me to be the same person as Manuel. He may have taken american name. The age and immigration dates match. On the 1940 census, note that although Emma is the head of household, she is listed as married and not widowed. Emma's death record FARIA EMMA 1880 07 12 mothers last-VARGAS fathers last-ENOS FEMALE CA SANTA CLARA 1957 09 30 77yrs Eric Edgar On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:50 AM, S. Faria Lepre lepre@gmail.com mailto:lepre@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cheri, Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I just assumed that since my subject heading said California, people would know that's where I was talking about. Port Costa is a census-designated place in Contra Costa County, CA. Manuel was living there in 1900 apparently. After that, most of my records had the family living in Richmond, Contra Costa County, CA. Thanks too for the clarification on the name. I figured that Manoel was the Portuguese spelling. Funny, last night after posting this, I was digging around in ship passenger lists and found a Manoel, but whoever transcribed the information thought the o in his name was an s and so now there are several records that say Mansel Faria! All the name spelling changes sure makes it hard to track a specific person! :) I found several records then in the ship passenger lists, with many Manoel's and many surname variations like de Faria, Ferreira, Pereira, Farie, Farria, and Farias. The only one who was close to the age my Manuel was said to have been during immigration was a Mansel (Manoel) Faria who was 18 (year of birth abt.1875) and on the ship Peninsular which arrived in NY, NY 9 May 1893. He was a laborer and from Fayal, Azores. He was going to Fall River, MA. The dates are a little off from my Manuel: my records had his immigration year as 1894 when he was 17, and his year of birth as 1877. The dates and ages from the ship's record I found last night are off about a year or two, so not sure if I have the right person still. I also don't know if Manuel was on a ship that went directly from the Azores to San Francisco or if he was one of many Manuel Faria's who went to Boston and then to Fall River, MA. Sam On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:11:09 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Sammie, Since you are writing to a worldwide audience, you're going to have
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford
Hello, Last night I found the passenger list of family members that immigrated to New Bedford in 1910. I have confirmed the family but I have not researched it further. Does anyone in this list have Fonte or Fontes family from New Beford? They were originally from Candelaria but were living in Flamengos Faial, I believe that they moved there during the time when Faial was exporting oranges. Regards, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford
Yes that is me
On Apr 2, 2014 4:42 PM, hmaye...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Manny , My greatgrand daughter is related to the Fontes from Candelaria
. She goes back to a Bartolomeu Fonte. Manuel Jorge Martins is
Bartolomeu's six times great grand son. Were you born the 2 August, in
Madalena, Pico.1964.?Was your father Manuel Dutra Martins and mother Maria
Adelina Martins {Jorge}? Just started to research her family. Henrietta
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford
Hello,
Last night I found the passenger list of family members that immigrated
to New Bedford in 1910. I have confirmed the family but I have not
researched it further.
Does anyone in this list have Fonte or Fontes family from New Beford?
They were originally from Candelaria but were living in Flamengos Faial,
I believe that they moved there during the time when Faial was exporting
oranges.
Regards,
Manny
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] occupation = Lutador
When was the 'lutador' born? If you remember, Portugal was under Spanish dominance from 1580 to 1640, in Terceira when the Spanish tried to land the people fought and released the bulls after the Spaniards, I wonder if this individual fought and was nicked named 'lutador'. Also, the kings used many of the Azoreans to fight in the wars, he could have been on of these soldiers. Boxing was/is not practiced in the Azores, but one can never tell. Back in the early 1900's basketball was played a lot. On 3/25/2014 3:20 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I would love to hear the opinion of some native speakers about my ancestor from the 1600s whose occupation is mentioned as lutador. It is defined as fighter or wrestler, but in a society (Terceira) where people are more concerned with feeding their families than entertainment, could this really be the meaning? Maybe a bull fighter, since Terceira does have them these days. But I was thinking maybe it's more like a soldier which is usually listed as soldado. Obrigado, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com http://www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]
Penque sounds Italian or French http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panque On 3/19/2014 12:50 PM, E Sharp wrote: I just checked Ancestry and if Penque is a surname, there are many of them listed from the Azores. E On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com mailto:margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Edna, If you take a good look at the letters you will be able to see which is which. Regarding Penque, I am not familiar with it as a Portuguese surname but it is common in England and Italy as far as I know it is a surname. Cheers, On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com mailto:dpai...@gmail.com wrote: I've come across an individual whose alcunha was Pingao - this looks a bit like that. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao
Maria, Miguelina is a female version of Miguel it was a way to distinguish from Maria this or Rosa that. As for the maternal grandparents, that is it. You can search for the baptism and hope it describes what happened. I Pico I have seen where the baby was dropped at the front door of someone's home or left on the street near someone's home. One call guess if the baby was from someone in the house or for other reasons. Good luck, Manny On Monday, March 17, 2014 11:40:54 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote: Upper left hand page- for JOZE I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact parish as is mentioned in this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus. However, I came across this record where the names of the grandparents are so similar, that I wondered if Luiz D'Almeida is a brother to Jose D'Almeida. the name of the parents for both Luiz and Jose are both Jose D'Almeida and both men's mother is Miguelina. However, For Luiz the mother is Miguelina De Torres and for this Jose the mother is Miguelina de Resende (?) if I read it correctly.Miguelina is not a common name so I wonder if it IS the same person, it's,possible she used both names: De Torres and De Resende. Any thoughts? Can anyone help me out with the name of the mother of the baby in this record, please? The best I could make out was Jesnivea de Concinco(?). I know that doesn't make sense) There's several coincidences: both men came from the same parish; both men have a father with the same name and a mother with the same first name which is an uncommon name and both men had wives with Pais incognitos. Ugh!(So I came across my first encounter with Pais incognito and I don't know if that's going to mean I hit a dead end.). It's a shame because it's my husband's great grandmother Here's the record. I appreciate any help. Thank you http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860_item1/P67.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico
Thanks Doug, that is true. However, what's intriguing is what two sister having children out of wedlock within a 17 year period. I may have to look at the history at that time, may be troops were in town. Manny On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:48:08 AM UTC-4, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Hi Manny, I am not looking at any records right now when I answer you. The reason is that the treasurer is quite often the padrinho or witness for many children in every village. Sure, he could be the real father, but probably no more likely than anyone else. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico From: Manuel Martins kamb...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Mon, March 10, 2014 8:00 pm To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Hello, Does anyone have information on Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, church treasurer for at least these years 1843, 1856, 1857 1860? I'm seeing him as the padrinho (godfather) for a few children that were baptized without a father. Was he the father of the out of wedlock children or because he held a high position within the town? Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico
Hello, Does anyone have information on Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, church treasurer for at least these years 1843, 1856, 1857 1860? I'm seeing him as the padrinho (godfather) for a few children that were baptized without a father. Was he the father of the out of wedlock children or because he held a high position within the town? Thank you, Manny -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Matches to Mexico
Antonio, Interesting, I have a match in Mexico too, I'm getting further DNA analysis. I have a Baltazar Vieira d. 1706 from Sao Mateus, obvious a few year after the Baltazar you mentioned. Is my Baltazar in you tree? My mother's grandfather was from Sao Mateus. Best, Manny On Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:47:37 PM UTC-4, Antonio Faria wrote: I have taken the family finder test match someone whose ancestors are from Mexico particularly from Nuevo Leon I am of 100% Portuguese ancestry and was actually born on Pico island. I know that it is well documented that Sehardic conversos settled in Mexico starting in the 1560's some were born in Portugal, the governor of that region was Luis de Carbajal Y Cueva a new Christian that was born in Mogodouro Portugal. I matched one 10cm strand but a total of 26 to my match. I would like to know if anyone else of Azorean ancestry has matches to Mexico. I also matched two people to Mexico from my y dna I am haplogroup J2a4d which is consistent with Jewish paternal ancestry. I can trace my paternal line on paper to Baltazar Vieira born in Sao Mateus Pico about 1580 I think he is descended from Joao Vieira that arrived on Pico Island about 1509. The Lisbon massacre occcured in 1506 and king Manuel I began authorizing new Christians to settle in the islands in 1507. My ancestors port of departure I believe was Porto Portugal. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] pictures
I will be in Pico in June, I can swing by Piedade and take photos, do you have a particular location there? As for Cedros, I can go across to Faial. I will look on the web for photos of Piedade and send you the links Manny On 3/6/2014 9:31 PM, rcapodc wrote: Mike, if someone does not have pictures you might try your luck on EBay. If you type in Azores and the Island name pictures and postcards will show up. Rosemarie *From:* Mike mailto:mgilfilia...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 6:23 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] pictures I have a huge favor to ask, the chances of me ever getting to the Azores due to health issues are slim to none. So iw was w wondering if any of you have been to Piedade, Pico or to Cedros, Faial might be willing to share some pictures with me of the area? I know I'm asking allot and if you say no I understand, I have one picture from there of my GGgrand mother and a daughter in Cedros. Or if you know of a website or book that shows the areas? Mike -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Problem with server
I have found that the best way is to search *by the list*of all using First Name then drilling down, you get better results then searching by person http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=piedade;lang=pt;p=jose+leal;n=rosa;oc=1 On 3/5/2014 5:54 AM, Mike wrote: my question has to do with the Mihno website(Neps) can someone do me the favor of going on and do a quick check fo me in Piedade on Pico? try searching for Jose Leal da Rosa, he'll be born in 1806 died 1899. I can't find anyone who I have the paperwork proving they are from there. I just want to know if its the site or my computer? I can find names in Piedade from people not in my tree I just can't look at who is. Thanks, Mike On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:54:16 PM UTC-5, Pat Sylvia wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone is having trouble with the CCA server. I haven't been able to get on for about 5 hours. Pat Mello Winter snow warning for New England for tomorrow. Heavy snow into Monday ' Here we go again -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Half Moon Bay, CA
Try the island of Pico, there are a lot of Cordosos there. I found a Manuel in Sao Mateus, Pico http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca;lang=pt;i=13846;oc=1171 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca;lang=pt;p=joao+furtado;n=cardoso There are a few in Lajes born in the 1830's http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=pt;m=N;v=cardoso I also see a Manuel Cardosa in 1920 Jefferson Precint No 2, Santa Clara, California, USA as widdowed I hope that helps you, Manny On 3/3/2014 5:23 PM, Marcio Borba wrote: Eddie, Do you know the island of Manuel Cardoza? I have alot of Cardoso (changed to Cardoza when emmigrated) relatives who emmigrated to that area Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/ Em Domingo, 2 de Março de 2014 16:39, Madeline Scott scottmadel...@yahoo.com escreveu: Eddie: Our Lady of the Pillar Cemetery in Half Moon Bay shows a listing with Catherine Cardoza d. June 3, 1881 and Manuel Cardoza d. May 22, 1923. The address and phone number is included on the web page along with general info regarding the cemetery. Here is the link where I found the info -- http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sanmateo/pillar.index.htm Madeline On Sunday, March 2, 2014 7:50 AM, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I was hoping that someone here would know where I can find old newspapers/obits from Half Moon Bay, CA from 1881. I think I stumbled upon my 2x Great Grandmother's record and need to confirm it. My 2x great grandfather was Manuel Cardoza 1838-1923 (I am hoping I have the right dates) He was from the Azores and died in Santa Clara, but was from Half Moon Bay when he came to the states. I believe is wife was Catherine Cardoza 1832-1881, I don't know here maiden name. -Eddie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio da Rosa (Roza) Maciel (Marcial) baptized Nov 1860, S. Mattheus Magdalena, Pico
This seems to be the match for Jose Rosa Maciel and Isabel Mariana http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;p=isabel;n=mariana;oc=4 On Friday, July 19, 2013 4:54:32 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost ofr Anne Snyder posie at aceweb.com) John, My grandfather's name is sometimes spelled Antonio da Rosa Maciel or Roza or Marcial. He was baptised in Nov. 1860 at St. Mattheus Church, Magdalena, Pico, Diocese of Agra. He became a citizen of the US in 1885. There was also a whaling master, Antone Rose, (1841-1923) who was born in Pico. I feel there must be a familial connection there but can't prove it. I'm a life member of the American-Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society headquartered in New Bedford MA. Anne (Snyder) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brum da Silveira, Piedade on Pico
Christine, Bartolomeu Fonte, Mar 11 1723 is on my tree, 8 generations back. Also, Jose de Macedo da Brum da Silveira is in my wife tree. Manny On Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:36:10 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Chris Macedo: Hello Vivian, Marie and Carol. About 2 months ago I had a DNA match with Vivian Christy. I am still not sure how many common ancestors we have Antonio de Brum da Silveira ca 1700 and Maria do Espirito Santo ca 1695-1791. Both born Ilha do Pico. Exact location??. They had 2 children. (Ref. database of Valdenai Silveira, Brazil) *Nicolau Brum b. ca 1733 Piedade ilha do Pico, d.29 December 1799 Rio Pardo RS, Brazil. (Ref. database of Valdenai Silveira/Brazil). Nicolau married Jacinta Rosa Pereira b. 16 Jan. 1748 .(Ref. database of U.Minho, Ilha do Pico, Madalena/Candelaria) The descendants of Nicolau and Jacinta are listed up to the present day in the database of Valdenai Silveira/Brazil. *Maria Brum b.ca 1733 ? Lajes do Pico, ? Piedade do Pico d. Rio Pardo, R.S Brazil m. Manuel de Macedo Madruga b. Piedade Ilha do Pico, d. 5.June 1810 (Ref. U.Minho/Lajes do Pico) Children of Maria Brum ca 1733 and Manuel de Macedo Madruga were *Jose de Macedo da Brum da Silveira b. Lajes do Pico (Ref. UMinho database. Ilha do Pico/Lajes) Jose is Vivian Christy’s ancestor *Manuel de Macedo Brum da Silveira b.Lajes do Pico 1763 d.1816 Rio Pardo R.S Brazil (Ref.database of Valdenai Silveira, Brazil)Manuel or his ancestors are my ancestors Manuel de Macedo Brum da Silveira 1763-1816 married in Brazil. he married Ana Maria da Assuncoa 1777-1816 (Ref. database of Valdenai Silveira/ Brazil) Ana Maria da Assencao was a direct descendant of my G.Grandfather x7 Bartolomeu Fonte +1723 via Estevao Rosa 1721 (Ref UMinho database Ilha do Pico/Madalena). So, Manuel de Macedo Brum da Silveira and his wife Ana Assencao were it seems, cousins. A huge % of my family married cousins. When i was in Argentina several years ago my cousin whose mother was brought up by her grandfather Joao Andrade Macedo on Pico mentioned a relationship to the Soares family who my aunt said came to America via Canada. This family probably originated on Ilha de S. Maria in the Azores ,and certainly the origin of other ancestors who went to Brazil was Ilha de S. Jorge. I think my aunts Marjorie Macedo and Dorothea Steffans visited the Soares relatives when they went to America, about 25 years ago. N.B Maria Brum b.1733 has different parents in the Lajes database. I have pondered this for the last 2 months and think they have Maria Brum muddled up with another one. I’d be grateful for anything any of you can add to this. Christine Macedo -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
Mariano's wife and kids came to the US as to what year I don't know. And Fernanda's daughter maybe in the US. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:07:24 AM UTC-4, elaine sharp wrote: Nancy, Can you please tell me which of these came to the US and where they settled? I have been trying to find them but it would be easier if I knew that they came to the US. “E” *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Nancy Martins *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:00 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Cc:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family ***UPDATE*** Heres some information I gathered from my grandma. My great-grandparents were Manuel Martins Maria Evangelina Martins. Manuel died around 1953 or so and Maria died before than. Manuel re-married and had one child. The children of Manuel Martins Maria Evangelina: Odete Martins-Not sure if she is still alive Fernanda Martins-Resendes(Not sure if this is the correct last name). Has 3 daughters probably living in California. Names are Teresa, Paula Esmeralda. Joao Resendes is the dad. Again not sure if Resendes was the last name Jose Martins-Died Mariano Martins-Died but his wife and children came to Massachusetts also and had one son working with MCI(a telephone company) and he got in contact with the family ages ago. Norberto Martins-probably alive From the second marriage: Julio Martins-probably still alive. On a side note. My grandfather had a cousin living here in Massachusetts that was Fillipino his name was Verba Martins and he had a daugther named Maria Martins Everyone hailed from Sao Jose-Ponta Delgada. Again all this information was what my grandmother gave me today. Thank you again for the help. On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which Ponta Delgada on which island) Hi Everyone, Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were Maria Evangelina Martins Manuel Martins any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
I am sure my grandfather Gabriel Martins didn't arrive here on a boat. The problem is no one knows when they came here. I am assuming my grandfather came in the late 60s early 70s. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:52:06 PM UTC-4, E Sharp wrote: Nancy, I am trying to find their ship's manifest. There are a couple of Gabriel Martins. Who in this family came to the United States and do you have any idea when they came? Manuel and Maria E. and all their kids? Some of their names are unusual and it should not be that difficult to find them. Did they come into HI or MA?? E On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Nancy Martins ncmart...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Mariano's wife and kids came to the US as to what year I don't know. And Fernanda's daughter maybe in the US. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:07:24 AM UTC-4, elaine sharp wrote: Nancy, Can you please tell me which of these came to the US and where they settled? I have been trying to find them but it would be easier if I knew that they came to the US. “E” *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.**com] *On Behalf Of *Nancy Martins *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:00 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com *Cc:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family ***UPDATE*** Heres some information I gathered from my grandma. My great-grandparents were Manuel Martins Maria Evangelina Martins. Manuel died around 1953 or so and Maria died before than. Manuel re-married and had one child. The children of Manuel Martins Maria Evangelina: Odete Martins-Not sure if she is still alive Fernanda Martins-Resendes(Not sure if this is the correct last name). Has 3 daughters probably living in California. Names are Teresa, Paula Esmeralda. Joao Resendes is the dad. Again not sure if Resendes was the last name Jose Martins-Died Mariano Martins-Died but his wife and children came to Massachusetts also and had one son working with MCI(a telephone company) and he got in contact with the family ages ago. Norberto Martins-probably alive From the second marriage: Julio Martins-probably still alive. On a side note. My grandfather had a cousin living here in Massachusetts that was Fillipino his name was Verba Martins and he had a daugther named Maria Martins Everyone hailed from Sao Jose-Ponta Delgada. Again all this information was what my grandmother gave me today. Thank you again for the help. On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which Ponta Delgada on which island) Hi Everyone, Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were Maria Evangelina Martins Manuel Martins any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
From what I could gather my grandfather could have nieces or nephews living in California. But I am not certain. All I know is that he had a brother named Julio. I know he had 3 or 4 sisters. Everyone was born in Ponta Delgada as far as I know On Monday, October 7, 2013 12:16:06 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote: I am working on MARTIN in California. Do you know if your Martin had any brothers and sisters that went to California?? Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Nancy Martins javascript: *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Cc:* Azores Genealogy javascript: *Sent:* Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:48 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge. That is the extent that we know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or extended family. On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which Ponta Delgada on which island) Hi Everyone, Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were Maria Evangelina Martins Manuel Martins any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
Thank you. On Monday, October 7, 2013 4:07:56 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: I've checked the Flores records for any Gabriel Martins without a trace, so I'd start looking in Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel for this family On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Shirley Allegre shi...@digitalpath.netjavascript: wrote: ** I am working on MARTIN in California. Do you know if your Martin had any brothers and sisters that went to California?? Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Nancy Martins javascript: *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Cc:* Azores Genealogy javascript: *Sent:* Saturday, October 05, 2013 6:48 PM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge. That is the extent that we know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or extended family. On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which Ponta Delgada on which island) Hi Everyone, Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were Maria Evangelina Martins Manuel Martins any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
***UPDATE*** Heres some information I gathered from my grandma. My great-grandparents were Manuel Martins Maria Evangelina Martins. Manuel died around 1953 or so and Maria died before than. Manuel re-married and had one child. The children of Manuel Martins Maria Evangelina: Odete Martins-Not sure if she is still alive Fernanda Martins-Resendes(Not sure if this is the correct last name). Has 3 daughters probably living in California. Names are Teresa, Paula Esmeralda. Joao Resendes is the dad. Again not sure if Resendes was the last name Jose Martins-Died Mariano Martins-Died but his wife and children came to Massachusetts also and had one son working with MCI(a telephone company) and he got in contact with the family ages ago. Norberto Martins-probably alive From the second marriage: Julio Martins-probably still alive. On a side note. My grandfather had a cousin living here in Massachusetts that was Fillipino his name was Verba Martins and he had a daugther named Maria Martins Everyone hailed from Sao Jose-Ponta Delgada. Again all this information was what my grandmother gave me today. Thank you again for the help. On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which Ponta Delgada on which island) Hi Everyone, Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were Maria Evangelina Martins Manuel Martins any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
He was from Ponta Delgada and died in Cambridge. That is the extent that we know of, hence why I posted here to see if anyone knew about him or extended family. On Saturday, October 5, 2013 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost for Nancy Martins, ncmartins286 at gmail.com (did not state which Ponta Delgada on which island) Hi Everyone, Would anyone be able to help me. I am trying to find records on my grandfathers family and as of right now I am awaiting to hear back from the consulate to get his birth certificate. But as of right now I only have the following information: My grandfather Gabriel Vincente Martins born January 22, 1926-died January 19, 1997, his parents were Maria Evangelina Martins Manuel Martins any helpful leads or information would be great!!! Thanks. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for records-Ponta Delgada Azores-Martins Family
He was from ponta delgada. Sao Miguel. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filisberto Jose De Barcellos-translation help
Hi Shirley, Im sorry for not responding earlier..your msg somehow ended up in my junk folder. In the meantime Eric Edgar translated the document for me. Thank you for responding and helping out :) Adrian. From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 6:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filisberto Jose De Barcellos-translation help Adrian: I could not open the attachment. Can you send it some other way? I am looking for Manuel F. (Fagunda?) Barcellos DOBirth 25 Feb 1878, ___, Terceira, Azores. PARENTS Francisco Barcellos X Maria Fagunda Manuel married Shandreena (Chandrina?) Lema about 1913, in California. Shandreena was my maternal grandmother's sister. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Adrian Martins To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 7:26 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filisberto Jose De Barcellos-translation help If anyone has a moment to help with translation I would appreciate it. I am fairly certain that record number 16 for Filisberto Jose De Barcello's is my 4th Great Grandfather. The record dates to 1798 and is from Ponta Delgada Flores. What I think I read so far is... Filho do: Fransisco Joze Marcello Ursula? Neto de: Fransico? Roza Francisca? Sorry its not much but this is a real difficult one for me to read. Thank you. Adrian. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] De Barcellos Surname..is it a common Portuguese surname?
Thanks for the reply JS Lopes, Cheri and Eric. It seems that twice in my father's line men have taken mothers maiden names over fathers last names. Through my research my paternal last name has changed from Martins (currently) to Dias and now to De Barcellos. Was taking on your mothers Maiden name instead of your fathers last name a common thing back then? Thnxs. A. On Friday, November 9, 2012 11:30:37 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: I agree with JS Lopes. The Portuguese hall in Artesia, California has a heavy concentration of people from Terceira. There are Barcelos families there. However, I haven't seen the first name Filisberto in my research. Maybe that's more unique. Cheri Mello On Nov 9, 2012 8:26 AM, Joao S. Lopes josi...@yahoo.com.brjavascript: wrote: de Barcelos is very common in Azores, mainly at Terceira. Alternative written forms include Barcellos, Bracel(l)os, Barselos, Baracelos. JS Lopes -- *De:* Adrian Martins adrianma...@gmail.com javascript: *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Enviadas:* Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012 2:21 *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] De Barcellos Surname..is it a common Portuguese surname? I've recently come across my GG grandfathers Baptism record Jose De Sousa Dias -Ponta Delgada/Flores 1878- record #32. (son of Manuel Filisberto Dias) In this record it states that his neto Paterno was Filisberto Jose De Barcellos. My questions if anyone can help out are: 1.) Is the name De Barcello a common Portuguese surname? I've never heard of this name before and i lived in a very Portuguese neighbourhood. 2.) From reading this baptism record it looks like it says the Padrinho is also Filisberto Jose De Barcellos...is it common for the grandfather to also be the padrinho? Thnxs for any help. A. baptism link http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1870-1880/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1870-1880_item1/P155.html -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with names of paternal/maternal grandparents for Jose Viera
Thank you for your help Pam. Now im stuck ugh!! On Monday, October 29, 2012 10:06:08 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: It doesn't list grandparents only godparents. Padrinho Jose Lourenco son of Captain? Jose Lourenco and Mariana Constancia ? On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Adrian Martins adrianma...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Can anyone help with figuring out the names of the Paternal and Maternal Grandparents on this Record for Jose Viera- Filho da Sebastiao Viera and Josefa Marianna. (I think the grandfather name was Jose as well and the grandmother was Marianna Constanta?) I also think they are from Quatro Ribeira's but not sure. Here is the link. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-QUATRORIBEIRAS-B-1815-1860/TER-PV-QUATRORIBEIRAS-B-1815-1860_item1/P28.html Thanxs. Adrian -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sebastiao Vieira-Help with Grandparents names
Thank you both Marcio and Shirley..Very much appreciated. Do either of you have any idea why it is that the further back you go in the records it seems they don't list the maiden names of either the mother or grandmothers? I seem to be encountering this problem a lot. On Monday, October 29, 2012 11:17:37 PM UTC-4, Adrian Martins wrote: I need some help deciphering the maternal and paternal grandparents of Sebastiao Vieira- Filho to Andre Vieira Maria Joaquina They are hard to read and I did my best trying to figure them out. Below is what i came up with... Paternal side - Caitone Vieira Margarida Agundao or Alunaio?? Maternal side - Raymundo Borges/joseph? Francisca Maria Any help would be appreciated Thanks. Link below. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-QUATRORIBEIRAS-B-1784-1815/TER-PV-QUATRORIBEIRAS-B-1784-1815_item1/P86.html -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sebastiao Vieira-Help with Grandparents names
Thanks very much Cheri..I'll have a look. So much great info you have accumulated Cheri..really amazing! Last question for the night once you encounter a middle religious name instead of a maiden/surname is the search over in that person's tree? im not sure how you would trace that person back. Thnxs. A. On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:22:14 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: I found it: http://goo.gl/Q2wJ2 It lists the 3 time periods for births, marriages, and deaths and what can be found. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I think this is my grandmothers Baptism record. Can someone help with Translation.
Hi Jorge, Thank you for taking the time to write me to let me know of our ancestral connection. I just sat down to look at your msg and am happy to get this info. My mother told me stories about having relatives in Brazil somewhere. She mentioned that her mother (Maria Do Carmelo Borges Pires) used to write to Raymunda and was invited to come live with them but Maria had declined for whatever reason. In the meantime they stopped writing and lost touch. My mother Maria Manuela Borges Pires Martins is now in her early 70's and is doing well. Still remembers many things from way back when. Where are you located? Are u in Rio? Are you in touch with other family from the original descendants of the 6 children? My family settled in Cambridge Ontario Canada. My grandmother Maria lived with us for a long time before she passed away so I remember her well. Do you have any baptismal records for Manuel Borges Pires or his wife Maria Jose Da Silva? I cant seem to find them. Also were they both born in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal? My mom doesn't think that was correct...but doesn't know for sure. I look forward to hearing from you. Adrian Martins. On Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:10:34 AM UTC-4, Jorge Costa Pires Filho wrote: Hi Adrian, My name is Jorge Costa Pires Filho. Manoel Borges Pires (was born about 1848 in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal - dead in oct, 3, 1902, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) and Maria Jose da Silva (was born about 1852, in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal, - dead in aug, 12 1913, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) both are in my Family Tree. They had six children: Manoel Borges Pires (Filho) - was born before 1873 José Borges Pires - was born in 1873 Leopoldina Borges Pires - was born after 1884 Maria Borges Pires - was born after 1873 Raymunda Borges Pires - was born after 1874 Carmem Borges Pires - was born after 1885 My father is Jorge Costa Pires and my grandfather is Oscar Borges Pires. The father of Oscar Borges Pires is José Borges Pires, brother of Manoel Borges Pires (Filho), father of Maria, who is in this document of baptism... Em quinta-feira, 4 de outubro de 2012 13h38min02s UTC-3, Adrian Martins escreveu: Thank you kindly. Adrian. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I think this is my grandmothers Baptism record. Can someone help with Translation.
Hi Jorge, My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I have been out of the country on holiday and just returned last night. Ill take a look over your email and respond later this evening once i've settled back in. Hope your well. Adrian. On Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:10:34 AM UTC-4, Jorge Costa Pires Filho wrote: Hi Adrian, My name is Jorge Costa Pires Filho. Manoel Borges Pires (was born about 1848 in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal - dead in oct, 3, 1902, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) and Maria Jose da Silva (was born about 1852, in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal, - dead in aug, 12 1913, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) both are in my Family Tree. They had six children: Manoel Borges Pires (Filho) - was born before 1873 José Borges Pires - was born in 1873 Leopoldina Borges Pires - was born after 1884 Maria Borges Pires - was born after 1873 Raymunda Borges Pires - was born after 1874 Carmem Borges Pires - was born after 1885 My father is Jorge Costa Pires and my grandfather is Oscar Borges Pires. The father of Oscar Borges Pires is José Borges Pires, brother of Manoel Borges Pires (Filho), father of Maria, who is in this document of baptism... Em quinta-feira, 4 de outubro de 2012 13h38min02s UTC-3, Adrian Martins escreveu: Thank you kindly. Adrian. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I think this is my grandmothers Baptism record. Can someone help with Translation.
Hi Dano, Thank you for taking the time to translate for me. The document for Maria Borges Pires is the one I was looking for. My apologies for not being clear...I know for next time. Thnxs again. Adrian. On Thursday, October 4, 2012 12:38:02 PM UTC-4, Adrian Martins wrote: Thank you kindly. Adrian. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can anyone translate record # 84 for me please.
Thank you Margaret. On Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:23:21 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi,The side note reads: The marriage recorded under the number 1, was dissolved by the death of the conjugue, the husband, on the current 25th. Record number 115 of today, on 26th of May 1960. Margaret On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Hughes Roselyn rosely...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Adrian Record No 84 - Maria daughter of Manuel Borges Pires On the 28 day of the month of September in the year 1910 in the sacred parochial church of Santa Cruz, Matris of Villa da Praia Vitoria, diocese of Angra do Heroism, solemnly baptized an individual of the female sex, who was given the name Maria, who was born in this village at 3 hours in the morning on the 22 day of the month of September of the same year, the legitimate daughter of Manuel Borges Pires, (civil police?) and Rosa Candida, occupation domestic, natives, married, parishioners of this village living in the Rue do Conde de Villa Flor; the paternal granddaughter of Manuel Borges Pires and Maria Jose da Silva, and maternal of Jose Vieira and Rosa Candida. For Godfather Guilherme dos Reys, married, administrator of this council of Praia da Vitoria, and Godmother Dona Maria do Carmello Toste (Nogueira?), single, occupation domestic. First side notation. Married ??? Manuel Machado, native of the village of Ribeirinha of the council of Lajes do Pico... Paria do Victoria 15 day of August 1937 Vol 27F Can't read the second side notation print is to small. Hope this helps and that others will correct or fill in the blanks. Roselyn On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Adrian Martins adrianma...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: See attached. Thank you in advance. Adrian. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] New to the Azores Gen site with a few questions.
Good afternoon, I recently joined the site and am fairly new to researching my families history. I was directed to the Direção Regional da Culturahttp://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/pgra-drcultura/?lang=pt/ Culturazores website and have been trying to navigate through it. I have a few questions regarding that website I'm hoping someone can help me answer. 1.) If you dont speak Portuguese how does one get the documents translated? Is there a service somewhere that can translate old documents such as these? 2.) Are Baptismos records considered Birth records? 3.) It looks like the records are listed by page not by dates. Does this mean you have to search through every page to find the record your looking for? 4.) Are there any records listed for the island of Faial? I dont see that island listed. If not is there another website where i can find those records. Thank you kindly. Adrian Martins. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Just joined and planning to visit Pico and Terceira
2010-08-20
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Franz Joseph Martin (great grandson of Manuel S A Martins from Pico and Josephine M Soares from Terceira)
Dear all, I just joined this as I am planning to travel to Azores next year with my family to visit the place of our Martins-Soares (Pico) and Martins- Souza (Terceira) ancestors My great-grandparents were: - Manuel S A Martins born in Pico, 1883 (son of Jose S A Martins and Maria C De Souza) - Josephine (Josepha or Josefa) M Soares born in Terceira 1885 (daughter of Jose M Soares and Anna M Soares) Both emigrated from the Azores Islands (dates unknown) to Tauton in Boston, Massachussets and married on 18.Jan.1908. My grandfather was Joseph Martin (they removed the s), born in Tauton, Massachussets, USA on 10.11.1910. He died in 2007 He met my grandmother (Noemi Gonzalez in Guanacaste, Costa Rica) and my dad, Joseph M. Martin was born in Puntarenas, Costa Rica on Jan. 1944. I was born in San Jose, Costa Rica in 1967. I have fours kids born (three born in San Jose, Costa Rica and one born in Santiago, Chile). We now live in Rome, Italy. As you can see, we have been moving during generations, so I would like to know more about this islands. It seems my grandfather has been the only one in the family having visited our ancestor's place. Would it be difficult to find their record to rebuild our family tree back from the names of my great-grandparents. Thanks for any advice/orientation you can provide. Franz Joseph Martin -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
