[Bacula-users] the restore window of the wx console

2007-06-06 Thread Marc-Henri Fernandez



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Le mar. 05/06/2007 10:14, Marc-Henri Fernandez
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 Hi,
 When I try to restore a file 'toto.txt', I choose the good pool
 (thanks to the restore window of the wx console on windows 2000
 server), called Serveur1-Inc-Pool and when I choose the folder (what I
 want restore) there is a bug, the tree is illimited, and I didn't find
 my file 'toto.txt'
 
 I have Bacula 1.38.11 on debian 4.0
   wx console 2.0.3 on windows 2000 server
 
 this is my bacula-dir.conf
 
 Job {
  Name = RestoreFiles
  Type = Restore
  Client= serveur-bd
  FileSet=Serveur1 Set
  Storage = File-Serveur1
  Pool = Default
  Full Backup Pool = Serveur1-Full-Pool
  Incremental Backup Pool = Serveur1-Inc-Pool
  Replace = if newer
  Messages = Standard
  Where = C:/Documents and Settings/admin/Bureau/base de donnee sport
 away
 }
 
 
 FileSet {
  Name = Serveur1 Set
    Include { Options { signature=SHA1 compression=GZIP }
    File = C:\\Documents and Settings\\admin\\Bureau\\base de donnee
 sport awa$
    }
 }
 
 Client {
  Name = serveur-bd
  Address = serveur-bd
  FDPort = 9102
  Catalog = MyCatalog
  Password = Password
  File Retention = 13 days
  Job Retention = 13 days
  AutoPrune = yes
 }
 
 Storage {
  Name = File-Serveur1
  Address = serveur-backup-ubuntu
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = Password
  Device = FileStorage-Serveur1
  Media Type = File
 }
 
 Pool {
  Name = Serveur1-Inc-Pool
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 13 days
  Accept Any Volume = yes
  Maximum Volume Jobs = 1
  Label Format = Serveur1-Inc-
  Maximum Volumes = 12
 }
 
 Pool {
  Name = Serveur1-Full-Pool
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 13 days
  Accept Any Volume = yes
  Maximum Volume Jobs = 1
  Label Format = Serveur1-Full-
  Maximum Volumes = 2
 }
 
 
 Pool {
  Name = Default
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 365 days
  Accept Any Volume = yes
 }
 
 
 Thank you for your help !!!
 
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[Bacula-users] Package for macos X

2007-06-06 Thread Jerome Massano
Hello !

Monday, I will have to make a demonstration of bacula at a client's on
his Mac computer. I have seen that bacula is supposed to run (at least
the file daemon) on macintosh, but I can't find any package or installer
for mac. Will I have to compile bacula file daemon on macos, or is there
any package ?

Please, tell me I will not have to compile bacula on mac... I have never
used a mac, and i think i will be stupid when i will say to the client :
I can't backup your mac. The program is supposed to run on mac, but I
am not skilled enough to compile it on your machine, I need
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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Project for strong incremental backup assurance

2007-06-06 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 10:21, Andre Noll wrote:
 On 21:38, Kern Sibbald wrote:
   Would bacula also have issues with deleted files.  Say a file existed
   during a full backup, then it was deleted.  Then an incremental backup
   occurred.  Then a restore was done.  Would the file be restored, even if
   though the restore routine selected the incremental job??
  
  If you do a full restore as is done by the restore command in Bat, yes the 
  file would be restored.
 
 Six month ago we've had a total crash (ZFS) and had to restore 4T of
 data from tapes. According to Murphy, our last full backup was three
 months old and we thus had about 90 incremental backups.
 
 Although the restore worked flawlessly (thanks a lot for providing
 such a great piece of software), it was a major PITA for everyone to
 clean up the restored data because naturally lots of files had been
 removed during the previous three month. Even more annoying were all
 the directories that had been renamed since the full backup because
 these appeared twice in the restored tree.
 
 So I think it would be _really_ nice to store information about
 deleted files and directories in the database which would make it
 possible to get rid of all deleted files and directories automatically
 during restore.
 
 The dar backup tool for example has this feature. Are there any
 plans to include such a feature also in bacula?

Yes, but no one is currently working on it.  There have been a number of 
emails on this subject on the bacula-users' list recently.

Regards,

Kern


 
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[Bacula-users] the wx console

2007-06-06 Thread Marc-Henri Fernandez
Hi,
My backup work very but the problem is the wx  console (win32), I don't
manage to restore my data, because the software have bugs. Where can I
have a wx console with no bugs 

the version of wx console is 2.0.3.

Thanks a lot


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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Project for strong incremental backup assurance

2007-06-06 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 11:28, Andre Noll wrote:
 On 10:40, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 
   So I think it would be _really_ nice to store information about
   deleted files and directories in the database which would make it
   possible to get rid of all deleted files and directories automatically
   during restore.
   
   The dar backup tool for example has this feature. Are there any
   plans to include such a feature also in bacula?
  
  Yes, but no one is currently working on it.  There have been a number of 
  emails on this subject on the bacula-users' list recently.
 
 In February you said Robert will be working on this project. Do you
 have any pointers to this work? I would be interested to look at the
 strategy for implementing this and at the work that has been done so
 far, if any.

Robert quit the project, so currently there is no one assigned to it.

I would be *extremely* happy to see someone interested in this project.  If 
your offer is for algorithm help, please see Algorithms below. If your offer 
above includes programming (i.e. C or C++ programmer), and you are interested 
in working on it, please let me know (either off list or if you wish copying 
the bacula-devel list) and we can discuss the project.  I recommend starting 
by reading the Developer notes in the Developer's Guide that is on the web 
site.  It will give you a broad overview of developing for the Bacula 
project.

This project and the project to store only one copy of a file (Base project) 
are closely related because they both require *much* more communication 
between the Dir and the FD -- essentially the Dir must send the current state 
as known in the catalog to the client, which can then determine which files 
to backup.

Algorithms:
This requires potentially sending a *lot* of data (i.e. millions of filenames 
and attribute data), which will require hash coding the names for performance 
reasons.  If we want to handle up to 20 million filenames as we are starting 
to see on some systems, we will probably at some point need a good file 
paging algorithm.

Some years ago, I wrote hasing routines specifically for this, but they have 
never been used yet, and so I am now looking at bringing them up to date -- 
in particular adding a Bloom filter to improve performance (I am currently 
researching Bloom filters).  Where I could use a bit of advice is:

Now:
- Reviewing my hash table code (particularly the hash function)  
src/lib/htable.h src/lib/htable.c
- Proposing how to size a Bloom filter (n bits) and number of hash functions.
- Proposing what hash functions to use for the Bloom filter.

Later:
- Review overall strategy.

Since these two projects (de-duplication of files, tracking new and deleted 
files) are quite hot topics lately, over the next week, I will write up a 
sort of proposal for implementation outlining my general ideas for how to 
implement them within the existing Bacula framework (i.e. without too many 
modifications to the database, ...).

Thanks for your interest in this.

Best regards,

Kern


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Re: [Bacula-users] disk array suggestions?

2007-06-06 Thread Rich
On 2007.06.05. 21:00, mikee wrote:
 I have approval to move my current bacula from
 one box to another, new box. The new box I need
 to purchase disk for the on-disk backups before
 the data reackes tape. I'm thinking about in the
 range of 2TB of RAID5.

note that if you are interested in write performance (as you might be :) 
), it might actually be cheaper... to go with raid10.
it's all your decision, and i won't rehash arguments here - but 
http://www.baarf.com/ has some arguments :)

 Does anyone have any thoughts or recommendations
 for specific devices?

have you already decided for hardware or software raid ?
lately i'm mostly leaning towards software raid. some of the benefits 
are generic maintenance, individual disk access for smart monitoring 
(which also is supported by some hw raid controllers and latest 
smartmontools), much easier and safer recovery in case box goes down 
(you don't need another identical hw raid controller) - and there 
probably are more :)

cpu overhead with raid5 for a backup machine with a modern cpu would not 
be significant (actually, my backup machines mostly have idle cpus), and 
probably non-existent with raid1[0]

i was reading a page some time ago which summed up linux software raid 
benefits and drawbacks quite extensively (i think one of the developers 
wrote that), but i can't find it right now :)

 Mike
-- 
  Rich

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Re: [Bacula-users] Package for macos X

2007-06-06 Thread Justin Lott
I put some Mac OS X (Intel and PPC) packages for bacula 2.0.3 (client 
only) up on my web site a while back. I have been using them in 
production here on both architectures and they are working great.

You can get them here:
http://www.pixelchaos.net/files/index.html

Basically just run the .pkg installer and edit /usr/local/etc/bacula-fd.conf

Please let me know how they work out for you.

- justin

Jerome Massano wrote:
 Hello !
 
 Monday, I will have to make a demonstration of bacula at a client's on
 his Mac computer. I have seen that bacula is supposed to run (at least
 the file daemon) on macintosh, but I can't find any package or installer
 for mac. Will I have to compile bacula file daemon on macos, or is there
 any package ?
 
 Please, tell me I will not have to compile bacula on mac... I have never
 used a mac, and i think i will be stupid when i will say to the client :
 I can't backup your mac. The program is supposed to run on mac, but I
 am not skilled enough to compile it on your machine, I need
 whatanannoyinglibrary.so and it is not present.
 
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] disk array suggestions?

2007-06-06 Thread mikee
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007, Rich might have said:

 On 2007.06.05. 21:00, mikee wrote:
  I have approval to move my current bacula from
  one box to another, new box. The new box I need
  to purchase disk for the on-disk backups before
  the data reackes tape. I'm thinking about in the
  range of 2TB of RAID5.
 
 note that if you are interested in write performance (as you might be :) 
 ), it might actually be cheaper... to go with raid10.
 it's all your decision, and i won't rehash arguments here - but 
 http://www.baarf.com/ has some arguments :)
 
  Does anyone have any thoughts or recommendations
  for specific devices?
 
 have you already decided for hardware or software raid ?
 lately i'm mostly leaning towards software raid. some of the benefits 
 are generic maintenance, individual disk access for smart monitoring 
 (which also is supported by some hw raid controllers and latest 
 smartmontools), much easier and safer recovery in case box goes down 
 (you don't need another identical hw raid controller) - and there 
 probably are more :)
 
 cpu overhead with raid5 for a backup machine with a modern cpu would not 
 be significant (actually, my backup machines mostly have idle cpus), and 
 probably non-existent with raid1[0]
 
 i was reading a page some time ago which summed up linux software raid 
 benefits and drawbacks quite extensively (i think one of the developers 
 wrote that), but i can't find it right now :)
 
  Mike
 -- 
   Rich

I'll look at the link, thanks. my current intention is linux,
software raid, raid5, and sata 2. I already have a disk array
on-site from dell using scsi drives on another box. I like scsi,
but for the disk density I'm thinking the largest drive I can
easily get is 146gb. Sata drives I can get in 500gb or 750gb and
the cheaper price for the sata drives make the sata drives more
attractive than scsi drives.

Mike

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[Bacula-users] Problems restricting restores

2007-06-06 Thread alejandro lencina

First of all I'm don't have much experience.

I'm using bacula 2.0.2 on openSUSE 10.2.

My problem is that I want to restrict where a named console(supposed to
belong to a user) can do it's restores. I have tried to set WhereACL =
/tmp/bacula-restores, but when I run the restore y use the mod option and
it lets me do the restore anywhere I want. I want to restrict restore paths.
Here are the configuration files:

- user1.conf (bconsole.conf):

Director {
  Name = linux-portatil-dir
  DIRport = 9101
  address = linux-portatil
 Password = x
}

Console {
Name = usuario1
 Password = aceroazul
}

- bconsole.conf:

Director {# define myself
  Name = linux-portatil-dir
 ...
  QueryFile = /etc/bacula/query.sql
 Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 1
 Password = x # Console password
}

Console {
Name = usuario1
 Password = aceroazul
 CatalogACL = MyCatalog
 ClientACL = linux-portatil-fd
 JobACL = RestoreFiles
 PoolACL = Default
 StorageACL = File
 FileSetACL = Full Set
 CommandACL = status, restore
 WhereACL = /tmp/bacula-restores
}

Job {
  Name = RestoreFiles
 Type = Restore
  Client=linux-portatil-fd
  FileSet=Full Set
 Storage = File
 Pool = Default
  Where = /tmp/bacula-restores
}

FileSet {
 Name = Full Set
  Include {File = /home/bacula/bacula-2.0.2  }
}

Catalog {
  Name = MyCatalog
  dbname = bacula; user = bacula; password = x
}


I also executed ./bconsole usuario1 as non root and it would still let
me write anywhere. I guess that's because director is being executed
as root.

One more thing. I've been reading the user's mailing list to find out
about managing users. If I don't want user A to restore information
belonging to user B, is having one catalog per user the right
solution?
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[Bacula-users] newb needs help configuring Dell PV-132T

2007-06-06 Thread Scott McDaniel

All,

I am very green to bacula and am trying to configure a Dell PV-132T with 
a single LTO-3 drive attached to a Debian Etch server.  My problem comes 
when running the btape fill test across multiple tapes.  The first tape 
fills ok but I then get the following error when it needs to get the 
second tape:

06-Jun 01:06 btape: End of medium on Volume TestVolume1 
Bytes=423,805,321,368 Blocks=6,569,404 at 06-Jun-2007 01:06.
06-Jun 01:06 btape: Invalid slot=0 defined, cannot autoload Volume.
Mount blank Volume on device Drive-0 (/dev/nst0) and press return when 
ready:

Where is the Invalid slot=0 defined error coming from?

my bacula-sd.conf file looks like this:

Storage { # definition of myself
  Name = foo-sd
  SDPort = 9103
  WorkingDirectory = /var/lib/bacula
  Pid Directory = /var/run/bacula
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20
  SDAddress = 127.0.0.1
}

# List Directors who are permitted to contact Storage daemon
Director {
  Name = foo-dir
  Password = xxx
}

# Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the
#   status of the storage daemon
Director {
  Name = foo-mon
  Password = xxx
  Monitor = yes
}

Autochanger {
  Name = PV132T
  Device = Drive-0
  Changer Command = /etc/bacula/scripts/mtx-changer %c %o %S %a %d
  Changer Device = /dev/sg3
}

Device {
  Name = Drive-0
  LabelMedia = yes;
  Drive Index = 0
  Media Type = LTO-3
  Archive Device = /dev/nst0
  AutomaticMount = yes;
  AlwaysOpen = yes;
  RemovableMedia = yes;
  RandomAccess = no;
  AutoChanger = yes
  Alert Command = sh -c 'tapeinfo -f %c | grep TapeAltert|cat'
  Autoselect = yes
}

Messages {
  Name = Standard
  director = foo-dir = all
}


Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Scott


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Re: [Bacula-users] newb needs help configuring Dell PV-132T

2007-06-06 Thread Adam Cécile
Run update slots, then label barcodes

Scott McDaniel a écrit :
 All,

 I am very green to bacula and am trying to configure a Dell PV-132T with 
 a single LTO-3 drive attached to a Debian Etch server.  My problem comes 
 when running the btape fill test across multiple tapes.  The first tape 
 fills ok but I then get the following error when it needs to get the 
 second tape:

 06-Jun 01:06 btape: End of medium on Volume TestVolume1 
 Bytes=423,805,321,368 Blocks=6,569,404 at 06-Jun-2007 01:06.
 06-Jun 01:06 btape: Invalid slot=0 defined, cannot autoload Volume.
 Mount blank Volume on device Drive-0 (/dev/nst0) and press return when 
 ready:

 Where is the Invalid slot=0 defined error coming from?

 my bacula-sd.conf file looks like this:

 Storage { # definition of myself
   Name = foo-sd
   SDPort = 9103
   WorkingDirectory = /var/lib/bacula
   Pid Directory = /var/run/bacula
   Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20
   SDAddress = 127.0.0.1
 }

 # List Directors who are permitted to contact Storage daemon
 Director {
   Name = foo-dir
   Password = xxx
 }

 # Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the
 #   status of the storage daemon
 Director {
   Name = foo-mon
   Password = xxx
   Monitor = yes
 }

 Autochanger {
   Name = PV132T
   Device = Drive-0
   Changer Command = /etc/bacula/scripts/mtx-changer %c %o %S %a %d
   Changer Device = /dev/sg3
 }

 Device {
   Name = Drive-0
   LabelMedia = yes;
   Drive Index = 0
   Media Type = LTO-3
   Archive Device = /dev/nst0
   AutomaticMount = yes;
   AlwaysOpen = yes;
   RemovableMedia = yes;
   RandomAccess = no;
   AutoChanger = yes
   Alert Command = sh -c 'tapeinfo -f %c | grep TapeAltert|cat'
   Autoselect = yes
 }

 Messages {
   Name = Standard
   director = foo-dir = all
 }


 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 Sincerely,
 Scott


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Re: [Bacula-users] Mysteriously failing jobs

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Sweetser

Well, I had a failure last night while I was monitoring memory usage.  I had a
script snagging the output of  ps -o rss for both bacula-sd and bacula-dir
every 60 seconds.  Based on that, memory usage for both jumped only by a few
megs when the jobs started.  The dir was around 20M, and the sd around 13M.

I'll try to see if I can capture a failure with debug options at least on the
FD cranked up...

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Re: [Bacula-users] Package for macos X

2007-06-06 Thread Erich Prinz
Justin,

Why not submit this to Kern for posting along with the other platform  
packages? (Client only of course)

Erich

On Jun 6, 2007, at 6:18 AM, Justin Lott wrote:

 I put some Mac OS X (Intel and PPC) packages for bacula 2.0.3 (client
 only) up on my web site a while back. I have been using them in
 production here on both architectures and they are working great.

 You can get them here:
 http://www.pixelchaos.net/files/index.html

 Basically just run the .pkg installer and edit /usr/local/etc/ 
 bacula-fd.conf

 Please let me know how they work out for you.

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 least
 the file daemon) on macintosh, but I can't find any package or  
 installer
 for mac. Will I have to compile bacula file daemon on macos, or is  
 there
 any package ?

 Please, tell me I will not have to compile bacula on mac... I have  
 never
 used a mac, and i think i will be stupid when i will say to the  
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Re: [Bacula-users] newb needs help configuring Dell PV-132T

2007-06-06 Thread Adam Cécile
Well... Let me explain you some stuff.
PV132T has a barcodes reader, so the easier way to get bacula find its
volumes into the library is to label tape with their barcodes. (I guess
you have barcodes on your tape ???, check with mtx -f /dev/sgX status).
Then start bacula director and run update slots. Bacula will ask what's
in the library through mtx. Then label bardcodes will make bacula load
each tape into the drive and write the bardcode as label. Check with
list media (especially inchanger flag).

Scott McDaniel a écrit :
 How do I do that?  I don't see that inside btape.

 Adam Cécile wrote:
   
 Run update slots, then label barcodes
 

   


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Re: [Bacula-users] the wx console

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/6/2007 10:57 AM, Marc-Henri Fernandez wrote:
   Hi,
 My backup work very but the problem is the wx  console (win32), I don't 
 manage to restore my data, because the software have bugs. Where can I 
 have a wx console with no bugs 

There is only one wxconsole program I know of, and that works ok for me 
any many others.

I suggest you try to ask more directed questions -I at least simply 
don't understand your problem.

If english is too difficult, IIRC there is also a french-speaking 
mailing list.

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[Bacula-users] restore error

2007-06-06 Thread Lucio
I'm playing with DVD backups. During a restore I get:

06-Jun 17:57 server-Emmeti-sd: RestoreFiles.2007-06-06_17.55.19 Error: 
block.c:317 Volume data error at 0:2792745412!
Block checksum mismatch in block=11003 len=64512: calc=907224b0 blk=9e65141f

Does that mean that the DVD media is corrupt?

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[Bacula-users] Bacula BETA 2.1.12 released to Source Forge

2007-06-06 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello,

I have just released Bacula BETA 2.1.12 to Source Forge.  The files are:

bacula-2.1.12.tar.gz
bacula-2.1.12.tar.gz.sig
bacula-gui-2.1.12.tar.gz
bacula-gui-2.1.12.tar.gz.sig
bacula-rescue-2.1.12.tar.gz
bacula-rescue-2.1.12.tar.gz.sig

If you want the docs, you can find them at:

  http://www.sibbald.com/download/bacula-docs-2.1.12.tar.bz2
  http://www.sibbald.com/download/bacula-docs-2.1.12.tar.bz2.sig

The main docs file is 19+MB so will not load on Source Forge.
This release is mainly a bug fix to version 2.1.10 with the following changes:

Changes since Beta release 2.1.10
- Lots of new bat functionality !!
- Additional drive reservation algorithm that should solve a lot of
  the problems experienced with multiple drive autochangers.
- Reload was broken in 2.1.10 -- now fixed.
- Storage daemon status command enhanced to more clearly show Volume,
  pool and media type when a job is waiting.
- Made bsmtp work with more strict SMTP servers.
- Detect doubly freed buffers in smartall.c
- Reduce the impact of a backup on the FD's memory usage (OS file
  caching). This works only on POSIX compliant systems. This allows
  users to work with less interference on a Client machine during a
  backup.
- bat should now handle non-English characters.
- ./configure now permits --enable-batch-insert (as well as --disable...).
  This feature is enabled by default if your SQL libraries are thread
  safe.
- The default setting for SQLite3 is now 'PRAGMA synchronous=OFF'.
  This makes it run 30 times faster, but increases the possiblity
  of a corrupted database if your server shuts down unexpectedly.
  The default behavior can be changed in src/version.h

For more details, please see the ChangeLog.

Thanks to the regression testers for their work. :-)

Best regards,

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Re: [Bacula-users] restore error

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/6/2007 6:09 PM, Lucio wrote:
 I'm playing with DVD backups. During a restore I get:
 
 06-Jun 17:57 server-Emmeti-sd: RestoreFiles.2007-06-06_17.55.19 Error: 
 block.c:317 Volume data error at 0:2792745412!
 Block checksum mismatch in block=11003 len=64512: calc=907224b0 blk=9e65141f
 
 Does that mean that the DVD media is corrupt?

Unless you get these errors with every DVD you use, I'd say yes, this 
disk is corrupt. (Which would illustrate my point to *not* use DVD for 
backup or archival purposes...)

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mysteriously failing jobs

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello,

On 6/6/2007 3:38 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote:
 Well, I had a failure last night while I was monitoring memory usage.  I had a
 script snagging the output of  ps -o rss for both bacula-sd and bacula-dir
 every 60 seconds.  Based on that, memory usage for both jumped only by a few
 megs when the jobs started.  The dir was around 20M, and the sd around 13M.

Quite sane numbers. Well, that quite certainly rules out the idea of 
memory consumption causing your problems.

 I'll try to see if I can capture a failure with debug options at least on the
 FD cranked up...

I'm not a good debugger user, but strace might be the next thing to 
try... like capturing all socket operations, or something. Perhaps you 
get to know if the error is cause by the OS on one end.

Or, alternatively, using tcpdump to find if the sequence numbers get out 
of sync somewhere, which would cause a RST on both ends.

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Ryan Novosielski
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 On 6/4/2007 6:11 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
 On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:26:20 +0200
 Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 [snip]
 A couple php based that would make my short list:

 -e107

 http://e107.org/news.php
 That one is unknown to me, I'll give it a look.
 
 About a year ago there was a competition for open source cms.  I'm
 forgetting the name but the award was several thousand US dollars.  5
 finalist were:
 
 Joomla
 Drupal
 Plone
 e107
 ??? I forget...
 
 It was either Drupal or Joomla that won.  Point being here that e107 is
 up there with the big boys.  But then again, as you've noted, a full
 blown CMS may well be overkill for your objectives.  OTOH, once you've
 set one up you leverage a scalable foundation where you can easily add
 more features as the need arises.  In the interim, you can disable
 those that you don't need.

You know, it may be overkill... but then again, haven't we as a
community sort of been clamoring for a Bacula-official wiki for awhile?
I know you may not want to be the one doing that work, but I wonder if
we can't kill two birds here with one stone.

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Sweetser
Ryan Novosielski wrote:
  You know, it may be overkill... but then again, haven't we as a
 community sort of been clamoring for a Bacula-official wiki for awhile?
 I know you may not want to be the one doing that work, but I wonder if
 we can't kill two birds here with one stone.

I've been running a DokuWiki installation with bacula related info on
http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/wiki for awhile.  It's not fully official in that
it's not under bacula.org, but kern certainly knows about it, and has pulled
some of the manual correction stuff into the main docs.  DokuWiki looks to
have a pretty good plugin system, so if someone with more PHP-fu than I have
wants to try writing up a suitable ranking system I'd be happy to host it there.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mysteriously failing jobs

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Sweetser
Arno Lehmann wrote:
 I'm not a good debugger user, but strace might be the next thing to 
 try... like capturing all socket operations, or something. Perhaps you 
 get to know if the error is cause by the OS on one end.

Knowing how verbose strace can be, I'm a little hesitant to jump right to that.

 Or, alternatively, using tcpdump to find if the sequence numbers get out 
 of sync somewhere, which would cause a RST on both ends.

I'll try getting a headers only tcpdump from both ends.  Hopefully that, along
with -d100 on the FD, will produce something insightful.

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/6/2007 9:51 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
... using a CMS for voting only?

 You know, it may be overkill... but then again, haven't we as a
 community sort of been clamoring for a Bacula-official wiki for awhile?
 I know you may not want to be the one doing that work, but I wonder if
 we can't kill two birds here with one stone.


Good point... if someone set up a CMS or Wiki with the (probably) 
necessary modules to support the voting process, I'd manage the feature 
requests and voting itself.

(But I do prefer something much more structured than a bare wiki.)

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Ryan Novosielski
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Frank Sweetser wrote:
 Ryan Novosielski wrote:
   You know, it may be overkill... but then again, haven't we as a
 community sort of been clamoring for a Bacula-official wiki for awhile?
 I know you may not want to be the one doing that work, but I wonder if
 we can't kill two birds here with one stone.
 
 I've been running a DokuWiki installation with bacula related info on
 http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/wiki for awhile.  It's not fully official in that
 it's not under bacula.org, but kern certainly knows about it, and has pulled
 some of the manual correction stuff into the main docs.  DokuWiki looks to
 have a pretty good plugin system, so if someone with more PHP-fu than I have
 wants to try writing up a suitable ranking system I'd be happy to host it 
 there.

http://bugs.splitbrain.org/?do=detailstask_id=781

Here's a bug requesting voting in DokuWiki and someone posting two
plugins that do the trick. What do we think?

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Sweetser
Ryan Novosielski wrote:

 http://bugs.splitbrain.org/?do=detailstask_id=781
 
 Here's a bug requesting voting in DokuWiki and someone posting two
 plugins that do the trick. What do we think?

Unfortunately, both of those two plugins are a little too simple IMHO.

The poll plugin (and closely related userpoll) just allow you to pick a single
item from a simple list.

The doodle one is closer, but a) doesn't look like the UI would scale all that
well for 50 options, and b) just allows a simple yea or nay vote on each option.

Odds are that the doodle one could be modified to work, though.

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Re: [Bacula-users] restore error

2007-06-06 Thread Lucio Crusca
Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Unless you get these errors with every DVD you use, I'd say yes, this
 disk is corrupt. 

Are you suggesting that there can be a situation where bacula gives read 
errors on every DVD media while those DVDs aren't corrupt?
Granted, DVDs aren't very much reliable, but in this case it's quite a strange 
situation: this is the first DVD I use to test bacula functionality, it's 
good quality DVD+R (1.40 EUR/piece) but bacula started giving read errors 
straight from the first backup/restore test. However in the first tests I 
retried the recovery and it worked ok the second time, which made me think it 
could be more a software problem than a corrupt media. Obviosly I'm going to 
repeat the tests with another disc, but I just want be aware of all the 
possible causes of the problem.

 (Which would illustrate my point to *not* use DVD for 
 backup or archival purposes...)
I believe there are situations where having a DVD backup it's better than 
lacking any kind of backup. Not everyone is willing to spend $$$ in order to 
have a LTO system or a backup server, and when faced with the choice to spend 
thousands dollars or to risk data loss, well, they often choose to risk data 
loss hoping it won't actually happen to them... in such cases (not uncommon) 
a DVD backup it's better than no backup at all. No matter how good the 
reasons you give them to buy a serious backup solution are.

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[Bacula-users] Bacula Waits for 40min When a Client is Down

2007-06-06 Thread Kyle Marsh
Howdy,

I'm working on a bacula setup for my college and I have found that
when a client goes down, whether it's firewalled, turned off, or
otherwise disconnected from the network, bacula seems to hang for
about 40 minutes before deciding that the client isn't there and
stopping.  This could become problematic if we have several machines
down each night and could cause substantial problems if some backups
don't start until people are back working.  Is there a directive that
allows me to specify something sane as the timeout period, and where
does it need to go?

Thanks,

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/6/2007 10:38 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote:
 Ryan Novosielski wrote:
 
 http://bugs.splitbrain.org/?do=detailstask_id=781

 Here's a bug requesting voting in DokuWiki and someone posting two
 plugins that do the trick. What do we think?
 
 Unfortunately, both of those two plugins are a little too simple IMHO.
 
 The poll plugin (and closely related userpoll) just allow you to pick a single
 item from a simple list.
 
 The doodle one is closer, but a) doesn't look like the UI would scale all that
 well for 50 options, and b) just allows a simple yea or nay vote on each 
 option.
 
 Odds are that the doodle one could be modified to work, though.

That's what I thought, too... anyone experienced with wiki coding?

A related question: Can you set up the dokuwiki s that certain pages can 
not be modified by everybody, but can still contain these voting thingies?

Arno

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Frank Sweetser
Arno Lehmann wrote:

 A related question: Can you set up the dokuwiki s that certain pages can 
 not be modified by everybody, but can still contain these voting thingies?

I *believe* so, but I'm not familiar enough with the dokuwiki plugin API to
say with 100% certainty.

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Re: [Bacula-users] restore error

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/6/2007 10:43 PM, Lucio Crusca wrote:
 Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Unless you get these errors with every DVD you use, I'd say yes, this
 disk is corrupt. 
 
 Are you suggesting that there can be a situation where bacula gives read 
 errors on every DVD media while those DVDs aren't corrupt?

No, what I wanted to suggest was that I'd assume that specific disk is 
corrupt, when other disks work correctly.

 Granted, DVDs aren't very much reliable, but in this case it's quite a 
 strange 
 situation: this is the first DVD I use to test bacula functionality, it's 
 good quality DVD+R (1.40 EUR/piece) but bacula started giving read errors 
 straight from the first backup/restore test.

Nothing strange there IMO...

 However in the first tests I 
 retried the recovery and it worked ok the second time, which made me think it 
 could be more a software problem than a corrupt media.

Well, the restore code is quite thoroughly tested, and once the data is 
read by the SD I don't think it matters if your volumes are disk files, 
tapes, or DVDs.

 Obviosly I'm going to 
 repeat the tests with another disc, but I just want be aware of all the 
 possible causes of the problem.

I'd suggest to dump the whole DVD to a file, multiple times, and compare 
these files. I would not be too astonished if there are differences... 
probably even related to temperature, both room temperature and 
drive-internal temperature.

 
 (Which would illustrate my point to *not* use DVD for 
 backup or archival purposes...)
 I believe there are situations where having a DVD backup it's better than 
 lacking any kind of backup.

Definitely.

 Not everyone is willing to spend $$$ in order to 
 have a LTO system or a backup server,

Well, if you consider the low capacity of DVDs and the resulting effort 
of media handling, there are some not overly expensive alternatives. 
Using external (and robust!) USB disk, using a RAID-5 disk array for 
backup purposes exclusively, or using an affordable tape drive with 
medium capacity might all turn out less expensive quite fast.

 and when faced with the choice to spend 
 thousands dollars or to risk data loss, well, they often choose to risk data 
 loss hoping it won't actually happen to them...

I dare say you can build a workable backup solution for some hundred GBs 
for less than a few thousand dollars... and, of course, you've got to 
know the value of your data. (I knew a freelance designer once who had 
all his work on one 1TB external hard disk. No backups, no copies. When 
the disk died he could not afford professional data recovery. I'd bet 
the cost of (at least) a second disk would have been much less than what 
he lost because he lost his business...)

 in such cases (not uncommon) 
 a DVD backup it's better than no backup at all. No matter how good the 
 reasons you give them to buy a serious backup solution are.

My point is that it's possible to get a reasonable backup without 
spending thousands of dollars. At least for the amounts of data you 
would dare storing on DVDs.

Arno

 
 Lucio.
 

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Waits for 40min When a Client is Down

2007-06-06 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 6/6/2007 10:57 PM, Kyle Marsh wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 I'm working on a bacula setup for my college and I have found that
 when a client goes down, whether it's firewalled, turned off, or
 otherwise disconnected from the network, bacula seems to hang for
 about 40 minutes

Unusual timeout, in my experience... I'd expect nearly instantaneous job 
failure or the IT-related two hours...

 before deciding that the client isn't there and
 stopping.  This could become problematic if we have several machines
 down each night and could cause substantial problems if some backups
 don't start until people are back working.  Is there a directive that
 allows me to specify something sane as the timeout period, and where
 does it need to go?


I prefer leaving the timeouts to Bacula, and instead use Run Before 
Job scripts to ping the clients. Concurrent jobs are a reasonable 
solution against long-running or stalled jobs.

Arno

 Thanks,
 
 Kyle Marsh
 
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[Bacula-users] some issues with wxconsole

2007-06-06 Thread Craig White
bacula 2.03 (on RHELv5)

wxconsole is nice - thanks - went into restore tab and chose a folder
for a test restore. Went through, picked the folder and clicked the
'Restore...' button and the wxconsole locked up with a message at the
bottom that says 'Failed to retrieve jobid'

It did indeed restore though but wxconsole is essentially locked up and
I can't do anything in restore tab at all and in console tab, messages
are still written but it isn't possible to click into the command line.

Obviously I could click the wxconsole closed and re-open it.

Standard error written to terminal states...

(wxconsole:5370): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_remove: assertion
`GTK_IS_TOOLBAR (container) || widget-parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)'
failed promptparser-getChoices()=157175896

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:51:27 -0400
Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Ken Gunderson wrote:
  On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:08:18 +0200
  Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  On 6/4/2007 6:11 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
  On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:26:20 +0200
  Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  [snip]
  A couple php based that would make my short list:
 
  -e107
[snip]
  It was either Drupal or Joomla that won.  Point being here that e107 is
  up there with the big boys.  But then again, as you've noted, a full
  blown CMS may well be overkill for your objectives.  OTOH, once you've
  set one up you leverage a scalable foundation where you can easily add
  more features as the need arises.  In the interim, you can disable
  those that you don't need.
 
 You know, it may be overkill... but then again, haven't we as a
 community sort of been clamoring for a Bacula-official wiki for awhile?
 I know you may not want to be the one doing that work, but I wonder if
 we can't kill two birds here with one stone.

IMHO Wiki's suck.  Dokuwiki sucking less than most.


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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:21:54 +0200
Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 6/6/2007 9:51 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
 ... using a CMS for voting only?
 
  You know, it may be overkill... but then again, haven't we as a
  community sort of been clamoring for a Bacula-official wiki for awhile?
  I know you may not want to be the one doing that work, but I wonder if
  we can't kill two birds here with one stone.
 
 
 Good point... if someone set up a CMS or Wiki with the (probably) 
 necessary modules to support the voting process, I'd manage the feature 
 requests and voting itself.
 
 (But I do prefer something much more structured than a bare wiki.)

+1 

Wiki != CMS and definitely NOT the way to go, IMHO.

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Re: [Bacula-users] voting

2007-06-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:26:20 +0200
Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 6/4/2007 2:47 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
  On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 00:38:00 +0200
  Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Tuesday 29 May 2007 12:46:22 Arno Lehmann wrote:
  Hello,
 
  On 5/29/2007 11:44 AM, Steen wrote:
  Mandag 28 maj 2007 13:44 skrev Arno Lehmann:
  ...
[snip]

 What i'd like to achieve is to set up something which supports voting on 
 feature request.
 
 A feature request has to be stored and presented in a formalized way, 
 and each voter must be able to enter several weighted votes once per 
 voting period.
 
 If noone finds a suitable solution with some readily available software 
 I'll start thinking how to implement something myself in a few days.
 
 Arno

Another option that may be worth considering is Trac.

http://trac.edgewall.org/

Trac Demo Site:

http://www.hosted-projects.com/trac/TracDemo/Demo

It has built in wiki, bug tracker, svn browsing, etc.  Do not run on
sqlite db backend though for anything more than testing.  Production =
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