Re: Looking for a new CSA name
How about "Prime Edibles" Kathy Griebel
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Taste Connection CSA ? > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:43:09 +1100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Looking for a new CSA name > > > What about something with connections, like Food Connections, because a CSA > is about connecting or re-connecting the consumer with the people and > places where the food comes from and vice versa connecting the farmer with > the consumers in his local community. > > Christiane > >
Re: CSA Names
shit to shinola sorry, its getting late. manfred wrote: > > Wealth o' Health > Human Salivations > Salivations!
Re: Americans loss on GMO food production
> > Washington is frustrated with the EU's four-year moratorium on new > biotech products, a policy U.S. farmers say costs them hundreds of > millions > of dollars in sales each year. It is common practice in comerce to check that a market needs a product before producing it. One ignores this at ones own peril. Blaming somone for not buying what they don't want is a strange sort of commerce. One should look at producing what the market is demanding. As this insistence with producing what the market does't want has continued over a number of years, the proponents of this type of production system are either slow lerners or there is another plan afoot. With observing what has happened in Percy Schmeiser's case, one wonders if it might not be to totally own and control all commercial seed stocks and through it, food supply?
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
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Re: Looking for a new CSA name
What about something with connections, like Food Connections, because a CSA is about connecting or re-connecting the consumer with the people and places where the food comes from and vice versa connecting the farmer with the consumers in his local community. Christiane
Re: FW: [globalnews] The Ecologist "For Richer Read Poorer" Great shortread!!
Not long ago my local newspaper reported on a survey by the Australian Bureau of Statistics. They found that a higher percentage of people in the medium to high income brackets than of people in the low income said that they could not afford to buy everything they wanted! The financially poorer people interviewed seemed to be more contend to live within their means. I wonder how many of the low income people had a comparably low income, because they choose not to work more hours or a higher paid and more stressful job, because they are not so materially minded, but have other values that are more important to them. Christiane
CSA Names
Wealth o' Health Human Salivations Salivations!
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Earth Wares
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Essential Fare, Glorious Greens, Fibre & Juice, Scents of Humus,
FW: [globalnews] The Docile American
Title: FW: [globalnews] The Docile American In case anyone needs to be reminded, it is more important now than ever before, in the face of the Bush administration’s frontal assault on civil liberties and freedom of speech, that each and every one of us stand up and speak our truth, in our homes, in our neighborhoods, on our streets, and on the Internet. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And the Bushes want you to be fearful. Fearful to speak out because Big Brother is watching, fearful to post on your favorite mailing list because the spooks have black boxes that troll the Internet for thoughtcriminals, fearful to appear in public at antiwar rallies and rock concerts because video surveillance cameras may capture your image and be placed in a giant databank. They want you to be too frightened to stand up to corporate power and lobby as an academic, a citizen activist, or a community leader for safe, clean food, a clean environment, civil liberties and peace in the world. Remember that the spooks have proven unable to sift through the terabytes of data they get from Echelon, or wiretaps or email monitoring devices over the years. They don’t have that capability. I speak here as a journalist who has covered spooks and national security for many years for The Village Voice and other publications. Remember these are the same folks who think airport security consists of shaking down grandmothers and small children, but they do virtually nothing to control the users of corporate airplanes. They are far from omnipotent. They are the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. The Bushes would like to be able to target outspoken folks in large numbers with the new technologies and new bureaucracies they are creating, but their ability to do that is still years away. They can put enhanced surveillance on folks they already have on a list, but the probability that you will not get a job or will be blacklisted in your profession because you speak out on the Internet or attend a peace rally is small. If you are effective enough in your opposition to draw their attention personally, the best defense is a high profile. Curtis Lang -- Be the change you want to see in the world. --Gandhi NOTEBOOK Regime Change By Lewis H. Lapham “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” · Benjamin Franklin) Unrelenting in its search for Osama bin Laden and the roots of all the world’s evil, the Defense Department some months ago established an Information Awareness Office that took for its letterhead emblem the all-seeing eye of God. Although still in the early stages of development and for the moment funded with an annual budget of only $200 million, the new medium of mass investigation seeks to “detect and classify” every prospective terrorist (foreign, hybrid, mutant, or native born) setting foot on American soil. No door or envelope unopened, no secret unexposed, no suspicious suitcase or Guatemalan allowed to descend un-noticed from a cruise ship or a bicycle. To give weight and form to a paranoid dream of reason not unlike the one that sustained the sixteenth century Spanish Inquisition, the government apparently means to recruit a synod of high-speed computers capable of sifting through “ultra-large” data warehouses stocked with every electronic proof of human movement in the wilderness of cyberspace-bank, medical, and divorce records, credit-card transactions, emails (interoffice and extraterritorial), college transcripts, surveillance photographs (from cameras in hospitals and shopping malls as well as from those in airports and hotel bars), driver’s licenses and passport applications, bookstore purchases, website visits, and traffic violations. Connect all the names and places to all the dates and times, and once the systems become fully operational, in four years or maybe ten, the protectors of the public health and safety hope to reach beyond “truth maintenance” and “biologically inspired algorithms for agent control” to the construction of “FutureMap”-i.e., a set of indices programmed into the fiberoptic equivalent of a crystal ball that modifies “market-based techniques for avoiding surprise” in such a way that next week’s nuclear explosion can be seen as clearly as last week’s pornographic movie. In the meantime, while waiting for the technical up-grades with which to perform “entity extraction from natural language text,” the clerks seated at the computer screens can look for inspiration to the mandala on their office stationery-an obverse of the Great Seal of the United States similar to the ornament on the back of the $1 bill, an Egyptian pyramid and mystic, Rosicrucian light buttressed by the rendering in Latin of the motto “Knowledge is power.” When reports of the lAO’s existence belatedly appeared in the main-stream press in November of last year, nine months after the headquarters’ staff began moving the first electronic ro
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Hi! Allan, How about The Fast Supper? Totally meaningless, but close enough to something well known, to make people think, regardless of their intentions. Every time they mentally check to see it is that, with which it rhymes, it reinforces your business and could potentially be good cheap advertising. I note that is not in use. Your graphic could depict RS standing at the road side stall, it loaded with ready to eat produce and his self flanked by a dozen who have taken his ideas and set out to spread them across the world in a popular movement... If I was handling the promotion, I would pick pick some gullible cleric and send the media with a copy of the graphic to ask him it it was true he objected to your use of the image... [I would have a cartoonist do the graphic, using the composition and putting the figures in the same positions.] Gil Robertson THE ALL SHOP Allan Balliett wrote: > Again - I'm reaching out,
Re: (What do we have to LOSE/GAIN -was Lurkers) For Chris Shade
Chris, I wasn't preaching. Not exactly even sure what you mean by "spiritual materialism thing". I absolutely would not assume to know you or most anyone on this list. Look for a post I'm going to forward that Curtis scanned in from Harper's Magazine. Lewis Lapham is quite eloquent on the subject of what American's have to lose. Blessings, Jane > From: Chris Shade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:59:32 -0800 (PST) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: (What do we have to LOSE/GAIN -was Lurkers) For Chris Shade > > I get mad when people start onto the spiritual > materialism thing or when people think they know your > situation and can preach to you.
FW: [globalnews] The Ecologist "For Richer Read Poorer" Greatshort read!!
Title: FW: [globalnews] The Ecologist "For Richer Read Poorer" Great short read!! The Ecologist For Richer Read Poorer It’s not wealth that makes people happy, says Jeremy Seabrook, but sufficiency. Yet a system based on constant growth always relys on us wanting more. We are perpetually dissatisfied with plenty. Where does gobalisation go now? Wealth means abundance. We recognise this in our daily lives when we acknowledge ‘a wealth of detail’ in a temple carving, ‘the wealth of experience’ of a wise person, the ‘wealth of life forms’ in the forest. Wealth means plenty – not only the fruits of the earth, but also human resourcefulness, creative ability, the vast storehouse of imagination and inventiveness that has fed the richness and diversity of civilisations. But in economics this comprehensive understanding of wealth is suspended as we enter not a neutral accounting-system but the twilight zone of ideology. Poverty, however, is not the opposite of wealth but of sufficiency. The poor want, above all, enough for their sustenance. They long to be relieved from an insecurity that threatens them with perpetual eviction – from forest, village, subsistence farm or city slum. They want, above all, a time of peace and stability in which to bring up their children and live out their lives not in indolence or dependency but in a self-reliance that will permit them to answer the few and easily met needs of humanity. But they can’t have it. It is not permitted. If human beings were to declare themselves satisfied with what they have, what would become of a system that depends upon constant growth and expansion? How would the bottomless neediness of humanity be perpetuated by an infinite market if contentment were established? This is why even the rich are always talking about all the things they can’t afford and how much better off everyone else is. This is how the unavowed relationship between rich and poor is cemented even more deeply: they are united by the universal desire for more wealth. The most serious criticism of monetary measurements of poverty (and wealth) is that they define everyone who lives on less than a dollar a day as poor. Yet millions of people who do so are virtually self-reliant, and self-reliance is the opposite of poverty. The global system is busy demolishing such aberrations, however, so that the whole world may be brought within the familiar and measureable indices of poverty. In other words, all humanity must learn how to be poor. This is the poisonous ‘gift’ of globalisation to the people of the world. Globalisation is a system from which security, subsistence and sufficiency have been banished. All societies, all faiths that have taught restraint, all economic systems that have taught frugality and thrift (including our own), all philosophies that have counselled a joyful simplicity must be junked in order to accommodate the specific discovery of industrial society that enough can never suffice and that there are no limits to desire. In order that there should be no mistaking this uplifting message, all societies based on other values have been brought to ruin. Those people who sacralised the source of their survival – the austere majesty and insentient beauty of nature – have found their respect for forests, lakes, rivers, soil and pastures mocked by the superior force that has turned all these things into the most raw of materials. The crusade against poverty is no such thing. It is, in fact, a crash course in instruction in how to be poor: lessons long assimilated by the well-off who have learned how to feel perpetual dissatisfaction with plenty, the rich who know the constant inadequacy even of excess, the wealthy who know best all the torments of their human indigence in the presence of the spectacle of industrial superfluity. The poverty with which all international powers and institutions are now concerned is an overwrought artefact carefully crafted out of abundance. Only when the whole world has been totally immersed in the re-birth that is the global market, baptised in the waters of forgetfulness so that even the memory of self-reliance is erased, can these noble agencies devote themselves to the relief of a poverty that has no remedy since it depends on a wealth that has no end. -- "To change the outside world, we must first change ourselves." "To change our outer lives, we must first change our inner world."
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Thanks for the 'leg' work, Perry. I want to avoid hyphens and such. Looking for a name that can just be pounded in and it will work. -Allan
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
"Authentic Food", I think...with whatever organization name you wish...or none at all. "CSA" takes a lot of convoluted explaining. The big guys [e.g., Whole Foods, Walnut Acres, Eden Foods, Wild Oats] don't necessarily say they are health food stores or food purveyors. You have to do the explaining at some point, but shouldn't have to do it right up front in the next breath after saying the name. the url has to go with the csa name. It has to be intuitive to be worthwhile. Not only is 'authentic food.com' taken, it is taken by a scalper who is accepting bids starting at $1500!!! AuthenticFoodCSA.com is available, but it introduces the complexity you have mentioned. Elemental Food, as I said, is gone,also. Thank. Keep trying!! -Allan W Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Looking for a new CSA name Allan: I think AUTHENTIC is great! Makes the competition look like a fake-- Frankenfood, Fastfood, Phoneyfood. The food your CSA offers, in contrast, is Real, Fresh, Value dense stuff. Woody "Authentic CSA?" "Authentic Food" Authentic Food CSA? Thanks
HIDDEN SECRETS FARM
Allan, why not name the new CSA HIDDEN SECRETS? You said the name Just WOULD NOT COME for you... and what better than a Secret Garden (oh speak from my childhood reading ), or, a hidden secret of great taste and nourishment?
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Allan, elemental-food.com is not taken.. too confusing?lifesupper.com availablesustainablesupper.com availablesustainablefeast.com availablelifefeast.com unavailablefeastforlife.com availablePerry >>elementalfood.com is taken (check it out, it's intrigueing. >>Gosh, Sustainable Suppers comes to mind... >>-Allan
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
"Authentic Food", I think...with whatever organization name you wish...or none at all. "CSA" takes a lot of convoluted explaining. The big guys [e.g., Whole Foods, Walnut Acres, Eden Foods, Wild Oats] don't necessarily say they are health food stores or food purveyors. You have to do the explaining at some point, but shouldn't have to do it right up front in the next breath after saying the name. W Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Looking for a new CSA name >>Allan: >> >>I think AUTHENTIC is great! Makes the competition look like a fake-- >>Frankenfood, Fastfood, Phoneyfood. The food your CSA offers, in contrast, >>is Real, Fresh, Value dense stuff. >> >>Woody > >"Authentic CSA?" "Authentic Food" Authentic Food CSA? Thanks >
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Again - I'm reaching out, looking for the person who has been holding onto 'the name they would give their CSA if they ever get around to starting one.' I bet there are a lot of good names being treasured that way. Oh, man, SECRETIONS of the SOIL Damn, COMPOST TEA and CARROTS Anyway, I'm still stuck...
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
When I go on a "Quest" for a name, I run all media and conversations I contact through the "Name Filter". I become obsessed with the process. As you read your Biodynamic books, your sustainable ag books, your foodsoilweb books, with this filter you will discover a list of potentials. Sleeping and dreaming on the list will bring the cream to the top. Let the name flow from within you. This is the organic process. Make it beautiful. Make it magic. Will, I've been through all of this the past two week, and, yea, verily, the past three months and nothing is really snaping up. Now the deadline is here, the flyers must go out, the lease must be signed, etc. That's why I'm throwing it out to the family. Come on, man, give it a name and you'll be the godfather!!! (But it can't be Hardy-har-har CSA) Folks: I wouldn't ask if I didn't need help. I appreciate the suggestions that have been made. elementalfood.com is taken (check it out, it's intrigueing. Gosh, Sustainable Suppers comes to mind... -Allan
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
I happen to be a lucky an EXPERT at naming things. F'rinstance, there is an organic gourmet mushroom farm in Ohio that I named "SHITAKE HAPPENS!" I still think business names are best if they comes from within the creator. It will mean more to you. Names are incredibly powerful and become a touchstone for your inspiration and daily devotion. Naming is easy. Many of us could give you one, but that would be depriving you of the joy. The one I had for you derived both from the fact that you are NOT making "Fast Food" and the name "Slow Food" movement is already trademarked, so I thought you could take the name THE "HALF FAST CSA". Does that work? But, seriously, I would stay away from words like " authentic" or "real" as they become meaningless in inflated advertising hype just like "organic" or "natural" have become. Plus, they sound so pompous and preachy. Why use a name that puts others down? I would go with words that have a deep meaning to you and yet have a clever ring to them. Personally I have always liked "Stella Natura" (also taken, but there are so many more). Remember that words like dirt, soil, plant, manure and so on sound SO much better in Latin, French, Spanish, German, Japanese or Italian. When I go on a "Quest" for a name, I run all media and conversations I contact through the "Name Filter". I become obsessed with the process. As you read your Biodynamic books, your sustainable ag books, your foodsoilweb books, with this filter you will discover a list of potentials. Sleeping and dreaming on the list will bring the cream to the top. Let the name flow from within you. This is the organic process. Make it beautiful. Make it magic. Will Winter
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
some ideas: Real Food, Moveable Feast, Shining Harvest, Food for Life, Elemental Foods Wow!! ;-)
Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide
James Thanks for the pat on the back. Yes on all your other points I too do not mind the occassional self proclaimed success as u may have noticed. It just seems others and myself seem to express some degree of scepticism, till it happens a few times. So be it. It is an interesting phenomena on this list though, the things that just go clunk! All grist for the mill though. GA - Original Message - From: "James Hedley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:40 AM Subject: Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide > Dear Glen, > Sorry I dont have a web page developed as yet. Hopefully some time this > year. > I dont see any problem with self proclaimed success. I expect that what I do > will be successful. If it is not, then I will do whatever it takes to find > out why it was not successful. > Fortunately for us there is plenty of scope in Agricultural homeopathy and > radionics to give the most fertile of minds free rein as to what they can > explore. > Isn't it great that we live in such interesting times that there are so many > problems that we can put our minds to. > Keep up the good work at some point the world will recognise the value of > the pearls of wisdom that come from the mind of Glen Atkinson, > Sincere regards > James Hedley > > Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis > Radionic Insect and Parasite control > Bioethical Agriculture Consultant > > > - Original Message - > From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide > > > > . Glen, will you please give Roger and I the URL of > > > the research work on your Web Page, or if it is not on it could we > please > > > have a copy of it, or is it commercially confidential. > > > > Sorry nothing written to provide re 501 as weed control. > > We did some work with Kikuyu grass on road verges in the early 90s. . Twas > > reported in the local paper at the time but was not successful due to the > > contractors lack of application repeats. > > I have played with other ideas and would be using something other than 501 > > these days, As described it speeds the plant up thru it growth cycle. > There > > are other preps we have which stop the growth cycle dead in its tracks > which > > would be more effective , once we get around to it. > > re ownership > > I agree that as soon as anything is in the public domain it is > > everyones -ala patent and trademark laws, > > At best one might get some credit for idea development if you make a loud > > enough noise, but ownership can only come through labelling/branding and > > keeping the details of your formula private ala microsoft. > > This has long been the loophole the BDANZ has used to keep me from > > publishing in their journal. Unless I reveal my formulas they will not > > publish anything about the effectiveness of my products. Some ethos about > BD > > being a do it yourself practise. "Farmers for farmers" , watch out > everyone > > else. > > They have not funded my work one bit ( actually actively discouraged > support > > for it) so have no right to the formulas which funds it. Instead they > prefer > > to tell their growers to use Phyrethreum for white fly than my BD remedy, > > which they know works because they did a surprise inspection on one of my > > client in 1992, when they did not believe his declarations. Strange but > > true. > > SO sadly we are back to privacy and secrecy if you wish to maintain > > ownership. A luxury landowners may be able to do without but alas us > > landless researchers have no other choice. > > re 'the silence' > > WHile there is always some scepticism about self proclaimed success, there > > is also not much to say often. All we can do is wait and see the outcome > as > > time goes on. > > James do you have a website with research docs and pics avaialable? > > re research > > In the near future we will be posting the results of a trial done recently > > by Gill Cole of the efficacy of some of our remedies. Graphs and pictures > > included. (Just tidying up the titles on the graph.) There is no doubt > > potentised BD Preps work from this document. > > cheers > > Glen > > > > >
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
some ideas: Real Food, Moveable Feast, Shining Harvest, Food for Life, Elemental Foods
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Maybe? Authentic Bounty CSA jeff
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Allan: I think AUTHENTIC is great! Makes the competition look like a fake-- Frankenfood, Fastfood, Phoneyfood. The food your CSA offers, in contrast, is Real, Fresh, Value dense stuff. Woody "Authentic CSA?" "Authentic Food" Authentic Food CSA? Thanks
Re: FW: [globalnews] [starhawk] Martin Luther King Weekend in DC
>We arrived at Lafayette Park, directly across from the White House, at 9 AM in the morning. The day was cold, well below freezing, >Flocks of pigeons flew through our circle, wheeled overhead and made three >complete spirals above us, moving energy through the air. These are gulls which come here now on Saturdays and Sundays over 100 at a time riding the currents of freezing air in spirals . . . around and near us . . . Mary AnnTired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.
FW: [globalnews] [starhawk] Martin Luther King Weekend in DC
Title: FW: [globalnews] [starhawk] Martin Luther King Weekend in DC Peace Actions: Martin Luther King Weekend 1/18/03-1/20/03 Washington, DC By Starhawk Friday: We arrived at Lafayette Park, directly across from the White House, at 9 AM in the morning. The day was cold, well below freezing, and a frosting of snow covered the ground. No one was there but us and a couple of dedicated women in Pink who were holding the vigil in front of the White House. A couple of our group traced a labyrinth in the snow. We set up our webs, stomped our feet and blew smoke with out breath. Others began to arrive, slowly, and when the moment was right we joined hands, cast a circle, and walked the labyrinth. Some of us walked in, but not out—a simple form of light trance induction. The day was relaxed, with women coming and going and some of us taking turns to go for tea and warmup. Around noon, when the weather had warmed and a slightly larger group had gathered, we circled up, sang and chanted. Flocks of pigeons flew through our circle, wheeled overhead and made three complete spirals above us, moving energy through the air. We spoke about the need to unbind the negative ties within us, the bindings that held the White House and the power it represented tied to undemocratic interests, and the need to weave new webs of peace and justice. We had over a dozen webs loosely framed in hula hoops, in various patterns, some like a spiderweb with radiating anchors and a loose spiral weaving them together: some like the spokes of a bicycle wheel, and some in dreamcatcher patterns. We had bundles of balls of yarn and ribbons of fabric scraps. I asked people to think about what negative ties in themselves they wanted to release. We had originally planned to create some kind of rope construction where we could actually take apart knots as we did the releasing—but the truth is we all had some resistance to making the tangle and never quite did. It was honestly too cold to take off our gloves and I thought perhaps doing the inner work and speaking the intention might be better than constructing something which we might not actually be able to undo. We all spoke into the circle about what we wanted to undo, and it really struck me how many of the women named ‘fear’. Just then Roxanne, from the AFSC and one of the organizers, came over and told me the police were starting to make threats. We were not allowed to have over twenty-five people gathered together in Lafayette Park without a permit, and since September 11 they were not issuing any permits for gatherings in Lafayette Park. So I suggested to the women that we break into groups, take a web, and weave into it our hopes for peace and justice, using the time to talk together. There were also indoor spaces available for groups to go to and get out of the cold. Women took webs and started weaving. Lisa, Ruby, Joanne and the rest of the Pagan Cluster came back from taking their warm-up break, and started weaving yarn among the trees in the park. We soon had a multicolored, beautiful web. They took handfuls of ribbons and offered them to passersby and to the school groups who were waiting to go for their White House tour, encouraging them to write their dreams or simply make a wish for peace and hang the ribbons on the webs. Most of the school groups were instructed not to talk to us, but at least one escaped control, grabbed their ribbons, and eagerly tied them on the web. "My dream is to be a singer," one young girl cried out. The web grew larger and the ribbons caught the wind and streamed out toward the White House, and I could see the energies of all those dreams running toward that sinkhole of power like fresh currents scouring a stagnant pool, and I felt a wave of hope and optimism and power wash through me. Immediately, the police came over, and told us to take the web down. Lisa negotiated with them. "You’ve got to take this down, or we’ll cut it down," the officer said. In their uniforms, they looked less prepared for the weather than we were. "Before we get into that," Lisa said, giving them her best All-American smile, "Don’t you think it’s beautiful?" They wouldn’t comment either way, but went back and forth for awhile, claiming it was a hazard to pedestrians (there weren’t any) and would hurt the trees, and finally she just told them that we weren’t going to take it down. The blond woman from the park police pulled out her notebook, as the men whipped out knives and began cutting it down. I just stood back, to back Lisa up if she needed it but mostly to focus our intention, that if the web were cut or taken down that would release the power of all those dreams. The woman officer wanted Lisa’s name and address, for her report, she said. "I’m not going to give you my name," Lisa said, calmly but firmly. "You see, I’m not going to participate in the nightmare any longer. I choose life today." And she w
Re: Certification Story
Hi Barbera and Woody, We all have many windows or view points through or from which we view life. There are many who look through the window refered to by Hugh. One of the definitions of fertility is the ability to produce healthy decendents. This is becomming more of a challenge for many farmers not using wholistic methods of farming, of which the suggestions of Steiner are the crowning glory. Part of the reproductive process is the will or desire to reproduce which can come into the sensuality part of the process. This brings us to the skin and possibly why it was recommended in the peppering process for the inversion or reversal of the fertility process of small animal 'pests'. Then there is the effect of the chemicals on the pituatry gland which is the subject of a chapter in the book by Dennis Klocek, "SEEKING SPIRIT VISSION". This is no doubt what Hugh is refering to with estrogen mimmicking. There are more and more chemicals that are being discovered to be endocrine disrupters to a greater or lesser degree. These come to us via the air in many instances. There has been relatively little research on the effects of the volatile and aerosoled part of agrichemicals. In a poluted atmosphere who knows what we are ingesting. What is retained in food is better understood, then there is the ripening factor and the diversity of essential sugars come into the equation. We are now standing before a new challenge of how genetic modification will affect these parameters and plant and insect pherenomes which is part of what we breeth in and may have effect on our pituatry gland and consequently our whole endocrine system. Wishing all health and joy in life. - Original Message - From: "Aurora Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Certification Story > Dear Hugh, Peter et al: > Gee I didn't quite realize that Woody and I were advocating for happier > union for couples. You do have a point there except I feel it is more in the > realm of sensual rather than sexual. After all when we do our work, with > consciousness, are we not "making love with Mother Earth, Father Sky and All > Life Everywhere?" > And yes educating the public is something that we have been doing for years > and the best way to do that is to hold a certain vibration or consciousness > as you speak the truth about the products you bring to the marketplace. And > one has to decipher what it is that each individual needs to hear for them > to become more conscious. How can they come to their senses? Big job, highly > underrated and underpaid. > A big problem for many is the lack of the wild and sacred in their lives. > Not enough contact and communion with Nature and all her gifts she bestows > on us. Forgot, with all those chemicals that do not allow memory to > function, how to be human. Took up a friendship with the culture instead > which doesn't provide one with a very good tool kit to do much besides buy > more crap and become more and more a servant to those and that which prevent > us from having the direct experiences we came here for in the first place. > When you get a direct hit from nature, that truly penetrates to the depth of > you, there is full time orgasm and less definitely becomes more. > There is no need for all these modern day sicknesses so yes, let's go and > let's stay with the power that is rightfully ours to claim. Time is speeding > up and the 'times they are a changin.' And let's stay and share the good, > the true and the beautiful. > On another note Woody and I are initiating some new work which comes out of > a dream put on hold for many years now . It should be up on our website soon > and involves taking people to pristine wilderness areas for re-edification. > Blessings to all, > Barbara and Woody > > Aurora Farm. the only > unsubsidized, family-run seed farm > in North America offering garden seeds > grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods > of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora snip/
Re: (What do we have to LOSE/GAIN -was Lurkers) For Chris Shade
Jane, We all at some level like to place people into this or that niche. Because of your "loud mouth" and strong righteous positioning, it is easy for me to send a bit of bile your way to be symbolic of a bunch of people's sentiment about speaking your mind openly. "BD piety" I had actually coined for someone else, more acurate for my point would have been more like "eco-activist piety". Even though I niched you for my point, I reacted to what I felt was niching me into the role of timid bystander who still sucks from the tit of the mainstream. Again, I have spoken openly before, but now is not the time. > PS: A google search on you just shows off your phd I do not have a PhD yet, nor have I lined up a post-doc for when I finsh (soon). Thus the sensitivity. In this biz, until you are established, it is easy to snuff you out or just position you as a wing nut, but after you are established, you can speak up. For example, there is a man up for tenure here who has spoken out against the fertilizer industry and done very good work along those lines. However, his tenure was just blocked by levels above the department (this U. is heavily subsidized by AgBiz). His collaborator here, on the other hand, already has tenure and so is untouchable. so, the point is one of choosing your battles and not needlessly sticking your neck out. There also seems to be a generalized thing in spiritual cirles where more feministic spiritualities like to be vocal, whereas more patriarchal spiritualities like to remain anonymous about exactly who they are, while still quietly guiding/affecting the unfolding of events. I get mad when people start onto the spiritual materialism thing or when people think they know your situation and can preach to you. Peace, Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
Allan: I think AUTHENTIC is great! Makes the competition look like a fake-- Frankenfood, Fastfood, Phoneyfood. The food your CSA offers, in contrast, is Real, Fresh, Value dense stuff. Woody Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Looking for a new CSA name >Looking for a new name for my CSA, that is. > >Guess I'm looking for a PORTABLE name, also. > >Not because, yes it's true, like Jane I won't keep my mouth shut when >I see standards being lowered for the sake of the masses, but because >I'm waitin in line for a better farm site next year. Besides, if I >took a local name this year, 'Lost Corner CSA' would be the best >choice and, well, it don't have te ring... > >Anyway, what say? It's got to appeal to DC professionals and metro >families with my marketing, my friends, so I can't be too esoteric! > >I'm thinking 'Fresh and Local CSA,' but it sounds a lot like SUPER >FRESH, an area grocery chain. I'd like to think of 'Authentic Food >CSA,' but I don't think it speaks without explanation. > >What about you? Do you have a good CSA name that you've dreamed of >using and wouldn't mind sharing with a WV farmer? > >Thanks > >_Allan >
Re: FW: [globalnews] Good Week for Peace Movement
Dear Jane: Thank you, I went to my first protest ever, this Saturday in Washington, DC 500,000 strong. I went with my 16 year old daughter, my 10 and half year old nephew, 2 brothers-in-law and 494,000 other amazing peace supporting peoples. We walked for 4 miles in the freezing cold, supposedly but it was warm the whole time. My daughter and I sang "amazing grace" and the Simon and Garfunkel song, "Last night I had the Strangest dream..." And people joined in around us. My nephew talked about Korea and economies. These kids are amazing. And when I returned home, my youngest called from her best friends house and asked," how was the protest Mommy? Did it work?" and I was warmed by her innocence, and I said I did not know how the Administration would respond, and she said "oh then it was a waste of time, and I said NO nothing done in the service of good is EVER a waste of time." Thank you for this Jane, I wasn't sure, and now I am weeping with relief and I have printed this out so my 12 year old can see it and know that good is at work too. Blessings, Jane Parker
Re: Certification Story
Thank you dear dear babara and woody. I am weeping with the depth with which you speak my truth beauty and good. Bless you on this cold cold day. Jane Parker
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
I can't find the reference but someone on BDNOW posted today or yesterday and in the post (maybe your own forward from Steve McFadden?) two words that just jumped out at me, Bountiful Health You might want to sub in something for Health, but anything Bountiful reminds one of Horn of Plenty, vibrant, healthy foodstuffs. And sometimes, the land itself gives you it's name. My Dad named my farm Flylo simply because it's half way between Flynn and Leona. Our ranch brand was the seagull and later when I moved here raising birds, it seemed to fit every aspect then, too. But, when I talk to the old timers I refer to it as the old Kirkpatrick farm, me being the old Kirkpatrick in residence .
Re: compost and certification
Martha, Aside from the breathing issue in the use of plastic is the purported factor of free radicals released from the plastic if it is PVC. I wish i could keep blessed chickens in my (leased )situation to do what you describe...further processing the compost for you in a value-added way! It aint lost. I know, it can seem a bit untidy around the edges, and requires shovelling up those thin edges before weed seeds really start up. Usually the heat from that integrated chicken shit will kill the seeds. And can't you also upend the pallets and continue your piles right and left? not knowing your entire situation... ...manfred...
Looking for a new CSA name
Looking for a new name for my CSA, that is. Guess I'm looking for a PORTABLE name, also. Not because, yes it's true, like Jane I won't keep my mouth shut when I see standards being lowered for the sake of the masses, but because I'm waitin in line for a better farm site next year. Besides, if I took a local name this year, 'Lost Corner CSA' would be the best choice and, well, it don't have te ring... Anyway, what say? It's got to appeal to DC professionals and metro families with my marketing, my friends, so I can't be too esoteric! I'm thinking 'Fresh and Local CSA,' but it sounds a lot like SUPER FRESH, an area grocery chain. I'd like to think of 'Authentic Food CSA,' but I don't think it speaks without explanation. What about you? Do you have a good CSA name that you've dreamed of using and wouldn't mind sharing with a WV farmer? Thanks _Allan
Re: Seed-freeze period
Thanks Eve. Barbara's and your info is really useful towards a comprehensive understanding of this somewhat specialized area...for those who for whatever reason have not been in position to act knowledgeably, responsibly enough in seed care locally. It would be great to document full lists over time ,of seeds which fall into each category/climate zone. .manfred...
Re: compost and certification
Martha - I use the pallets for my small compost piles. I like the idea of making effective re-use of an aitem which, until recently, represented a disposal problem. I like the open front for finished compost, but I tie a 4th pallet to the face of the first three, thereby closing the door on piles that are building or cooking. One year I got fancy and made groves for 8x's in the face. That way I could close the whole thing by sliding 8x4s (or whatever they are lenght wise) in the grooves until I got the height of solid wall that I wanted or needed. At unload time, you just take out as many as you need to to get to the finished compost (or at turning time) It's contrary to my original goal of making the most of found item, but I commonly staple hardware cloth to the inner face of the pallets to avoid losing a single crumb. Good chickens, of course, will still hop in the stack, but they'll be working for you rather than against you!! Try to keep your starting piles at least 4x4 compost first: John brought home a large hoop. Plastic, about 4 feet diameter, 3 feet tall. He thought it'd make a good compost pit. I'm currently using just pallets wired together. I like the air flow and double wall system of pallets, but the front is open so I can haul stable cleanings and just dump. It's easy access to both myself and the chickens. They keep it scratched up (and often out) so much of the household waste is eaten up before the compost can activate it. The ring would eliminate all the scratching and tossing, but I don't know if it's a good choice for good compost. (Is it going to be too airless or keep it too wet? ) OTOH, I can also just upend the ring once a pit has been built and encircle somewhere else pretty easy with this thing.
Re: compost and certification
Hi Martha: If I were you I would change your whole compost area so that it has no plastic hoops, and no pallets. Completely open to the air and in a shaded area if possible. Anything put around the pile encourages molds, etc and you definitely don't want this. If you write to us personally I will send you some pictures of good compost piles. Blessings, Barbara and Woody Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: compost and certification >compost first: John brought home a large hoop. Plastic, about 4 >feet diameter, 3 feet tall. He thought it'd make a good compost pit. >I'm currently using just pallets wired together. I like the air flow and >double wall system of pallets, but the front is open so I can haul >stable cleanings and just dump. It's easy access to both myself >and the chickens. They keep it scratched up (and often out) so >much of the household waste is eaten up before the compost can >activate it. >The ring would eliminate all the scratching and tossing, but I don't >know if it's a good choice for good compost. (Is it going to be too >airless or keep it too wet? ) OTOH, I can also just upend the ring >once a pit has been built and encircle somewhere else pretty easy >with this thing. > >Certification: I have always been uneasy with the process that >allows big farming corporations to put fertilizers and weed sprays >on our food, and NOT tell us about it, while anyone growing foods >without all the crap has to prove it. Something definitely wrong in >that scenario. >They say that a 'negative' is never a good advertising ploy, but >when I have extra produce to market I do use the negative. I just >tell them "Not certified but NO CHEMICALS." Until we start having >to barcode carrots straight from the farm (and I see that day not too >far into the future), I intend to keep on using this 'double negative'. > >And, if we all suddenly start getting junk mail from "99 Japanese >girls want to meet YOU", we can blame Hugh's certification post. >Hugh, was that intentional? >
FW: [globalnews] Good Week for Peace Movement
Title: FW: [globalnews] Good Week for Peace Movement Dear MoveOn member, Thank you. This week exceeded our wildest dreams. Our plan was to launch an anti-war television ad campaign, hold 12 local press conferences, grow our "Let the Inspections Work" petition, and have meetings in Congressional offices around the country. We knew it would be big. But we never thought it would be this big. That we were able to reach so far and do so much is because of you. You made it all possible. We didn't expect, frankly, to have 100,000 new members join our organization this week. We didn't expect to be able to deliver a petition with over 310,000 American signers -- the largest since MoveOn's inception. (We're told that when Senator Diane Feinstein's aide saw the petition, his eyes opened wide. He said that this was the biggest petition he recalled them receiving. Feinstein's segment was over 8,000 pages long.) We never thought that our ad -- carrying the "Let the Inspections Work" message -- would be aired on virtually every major TV news show. We never thought George Stephanopoulos would show it to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and grill him on the dangers of war. We never imagined it would be broadcast and discussed on news programs in Australia, Pakistan, Russia, and Japan. We didn't anticipate that a new national poll, taken on the very days our story was playing everywhere, would show public support for war plummeting, or that this poll would be the top story in today's Washington Post. We didn't anticipate that local press conferences, staffed by MoveOn members in 12 cities, would generate front-page stories on the new breadth and tactics of the anti-war movement. And then there are the Congressional meetings. We had high hopes for the meetings that occurred yesterday in Congressional districts across the country. After all, 9,000 folks had signed up to participate, and we had an incredible team of over 800 local volunteers and 12 tireless volunteer regional coordinators who were working to set everything up. But, after a week of continual surprises, our expectations yesterday were once again exceeded. One comment sums up the experience of many: "It was fantastic! Probably the best meeting I've ever been at - ever. 18 regular people who came together as strangers, were in agreement with one another, speaking eloquently, passionately, respectfully and from the heart." The member went on to say, "As a former Congressional staff person, I know this was truly impactful and meaningful." The impact was pretty clear. Yesterday alone, over 30 members of Congress signed onto a Dear Colleague letter to the President, asking him to let the inspectors do their jobs and abide by the UN process. It's pretty remarkable -- Congress is taking up our petition. And more signers keep coming in. In one of our most exciting moments, a pro-war-resolution Representative took a look at the letter, listened to our members, and then signed on the spot. Now that's democracy in action! The Dear Colleague letter is just the beginning. One Representative from Maryland is taking our petition to the floor of the House of Representatives. Another offered us space in his offices to do more anti-war organizing. One enthusiastic Representative is even going to join MoveOn. >From Maine to Florida to Arkansas to Washington State, from Grand Rapids, MI to Huntington, AL, diverse, articulate groups of MoveOn members got together to talk to the offices of their Senators and Representatives. Local newspapers, TV and radio stations covered the events, from the Denver Post to Pacifica Radio. The meetings themselves were simply incredible. But you don't need to take our word for it. Here are a few short samples from the hundreds of reports that have been pouring in: "The voices of several veterans of the Korean and Vietnam wars, of a VA doctor, a pediatrician, other doctors, nurses, retirees, teachers, grandparents, a law student, one after another, built a strong case for encouraging Kolbe to urge Bush to give stronger support for the Inspections Process. It was a bit uncanny. Not practiced, nor planned, but one by one, each person integrated his/her contributions into what had been said before. This was a very intelligent, well-informed, professionally-diverse, group of people, speaking in one voice for winning the peace, without war." --Martha Warner, Congressman Kolbe meeting, AZ "I was so proud to be associated with the group that showed up to Congressman Tancredo's office! They were an eclectic group of housewives with children, high-powered businessmen, grandmas, artists, executives, PhD's -- and each spoke with such grace and eloquence. It was just amazing." --Carol Grant, Congressman Tancredo meeting, CO "An interesting and exciting outcome of the event is that the Congressman agreed to lead a rally on Feb. 17th of many different coalitions. His feeling is that it's up to the public to voice t
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Re: Certification Story
Dear Hugh, Peter et al: Gee I didn't quite realize that Woody and I were advocating for happier union for couples. You do have a point there except I feel it is more in the realm of sensual rather than sexual. After all when we do our work, with consciousness, are we not "making love with Mother Earth, Father Sky and All Life Everywhere?" And yes educating the public is something that we have been doing for years and the best way to do that is to hold a certain vibration or consciousness as you speak the truth about the products you bring to the marketplace. And one has to decipher what it is that each individual needs to hear for them to become more conscious. How can they come to their senses? Big job, highly underrated and underpaid. A big problem for many is the lack of the wild and sacred in their lives. Not enough contact and communion with Nature and all her gifts she bestows on us. Forgot, with all those chemicals that do not allow memory to function, how to be human. Took up a friendship with the culture instead which doesn't provide one with a very good tool kit to do much besides buy more crap and become more and more a servant to those and that which prevent us from having the direct experiences we came here for in the first place. When you get a direct hit from nature, that truly penetrates to the depth of you, there is full time orgasm and less definitely becomes more. There is no need for all these modern day sicknesses so yes, let's go and let's stay with the power that is rightfully ours to claim. Time is speeding up and the 'times they are a changin.' And let's stay and share the good, the true and the beautiful. On another note Woody and I are initiating some new work which comes out of a dream put on hold for many years now . It should be up on our website soon and involves taking people to pristine wilderness areas for re-edification. Blessings to all, Barbara and Woody Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Hugh Lovel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Certification Story >Dear Barbara and Woody, et. al., > >Your certification story is poignant and well-told. It's a HUGE slap in the >face to have to pay big bucks and jump through a lot of hoops to prove you >are growing food the way it ought to be grown when those who contaminate >and denature the food they grow are allowed carte blanche to poison and >water down what people must have for their survival. > >USA Today had it on their front page today (referring to an article in an >inner section) how the balance has shifted to the point that many married >couples are not only not having sex, but that in the majority of these >cases it is the man who doesn't want it, not the woman who has headaches >and plays a pussy hostage game of "maybe if you do this, this, this, and >this we'll have sex." > >DDT and many other pesticide, herbicide chemicals have proven to be >estrogen mimetic (they mimic) chemicals. With the estrogen mimetic hormones >in beef and chicken and so forth, is it any wonder many men are not >masculine any more? The problem is so profound that it has affected the sex >of fish in Florida lakes, to say nothing of amphibian reproduction in the >US Southeast which has declined by roughly 80%. > >I know many guys my age who are telling me they don't have any interest in >sex any more. All these I know are eating commercial foods. Myself, I >realized in my 20s that 10 times a day was my limit, but here I am at 55 >and I still think in those terms. I don't think I could get it up for more >than 10 times in a day, and don't think I'd often be motivated for more >than 3 or 4, really. Mid-life crisis? Well, I'm single and have dropped >several women who tried the "if you did this, this, and this then maybe" >routine because I do sex out of spontaneous enthusiasm and not out of some >quid pro quo system. But I've heard women talk about their husbands and I >do know it is rare that the women in the suburbs eating conventional food >are sexually satisfied by their husbands. (No wonder the divorce rate.) But >most haven't any clue what to do about it outside of finding a young stud >to fill the bill. > >Damn, women, feed your men clean, vital food! When I market vegetables I >run into it all the time that happy housewives will pay what I ask without >question because they know it works at their table and in their bedroom. > >I know this is frank talk for this list, but let's get real. What we are >growing with our biodynamic methods is the very best in food. People who >eat it regularly have a different experience with life than those who eat >that other junk. It's time the story was told. And it's time the public got >a little more of an earful about what eating loc
compost and certification
compost first: John brought home a large hoop. Plastic, about 4 feet diameter, 3 feet tall. He thought it'd make a good compost pit. I'm currently using just pallets wired together. I like the air flow and double wall system of pallets, but the front is open so I can haul stable cleanings and just dump. It's easy access to both myself and the chickens. They keep it scratched up (and often out) so much of the household waste is eaten up before the compost can activate it. The ring would eliminate all the scratching and tossing, but I don't know if it's a good choice for good compost. (Is it going to be too airless or keep it too wet? ) OTOH, I can also just upend the ring once a pit has been built and encircle somewhere else pretty easy with this thing. Certification: I have always been uneasy with the process that allows big farming corporations to put fertilizers and weed sprays on our food, and NOT tell us about it, while anyone growing foods without all the crap has to prove it. Something definitely wrong in that scenario. They say that a 'negative' is never a good advertising ploy, but when I have extra produce to market I do use the negative. I just tell them "Not certified but NO CHEMICALS." Until we start having to barcode carrots straight from the farm (and I see that day not too far into the future), I intend to keep on using this 'double negative'. And, if we all suddenly start getting junk mail from "99 Japanese girls want to meet YOU", we can blame Hugh's certification post. Hugh, was that intentional?
Words of Wisdom from Steven McFadden : Chiron Communication Jan.2003
Chiron Communiqué Author's Occasional Newsletter From Steven McFadden in Santa Fe, NM http://www.chiron-communications.com/ Vol. 8 No. 1 © January, 2003 © - Copyright 2003 by Steven McFadden All Rights Reserved Your Food, Your Family, Your Planet: One Big Step Torward Renewal "Much is at stake, and we are the keepers of the Earth." - Lincoln Geiger, from Farms of Tomorrow Revisited The human race has only one or perhaps two generations to rescue itself, according to the 2003 State of the World report by Worldwatch Institute.. In its 20th annual report, Worldwatch emphasizes that the longer we delay wholehearted action to remedy the massive environmental and social problems we have created for ourselves, then the deeper the impoverishment and misery that humankind must bear. Life on planet Earth is now unmistakably and imminently threatened by overuse of resources, massive pollution and wholesale destruction of natural areas. Our life-support conditions are deteriorating rapidly. In most cases, nothing is being done. The political will to make changes is lacking. In a preface to the 2003 State of the World Report, Harvard scientist E. O. Wilson writes: "If we are going to reverse biodiversity loss, dampen the effects of global warming, and eliminate the scourge of persistent poverty, we need to reinvent ourselves - as individuals, as societies, as corporations, and as governments." While individuals may feel powerless to reinvent or to change the actions of governments and multinational corporations, there is one certain step that they and their household can take: joining and supporting a community farm (CSA). That's because every dollar we spend on food is a direct vote not just on our personal health, but also on the kind of environment we and our families live in. Most food dollars vote - albeit unconsciously - for pesticides, herbicides, synthetic hormones, preservatives, irradiation, and genetically mutated crops and farm animals. Before the year is out, we will likely also have cloned farm animals making their way along the food chain to our kitchen tables. This unappetizing reality - and the harsh economic consequences that follow from it - is not something most people have chosen out of informed free will. Rather, via an unconscious process stimulated by convenience and advertising, people have come to automatically support this system with their food dollars, unaware of the full chain of effects. As documented in the 1998 book I wrote with Trauger Groh, Farms of Tomorrow Revisited, CSA farms offer a range of clear, practical and enormously helpful alternatives in the realms of diet, open local space, work for local farmers, general economics, and specific environmental health. With a CSA the farmer can become a family's Ambassador to the Earth, and the land she or he tills in the community can become an Ecological Oasis of thriving health. A CSA farm is a community-based organization involving consumer households and growers. The households live independently but agree to provide direct, up-front support for the local growers by investing in a share of the harvest. The growers in turn agree to do their best to provide sufficient quantity and quality of food to meet the household needs and expectations of the shareholders. CSA farms typically produce a sizeable share of a family's fresh vegetables and fruits; many CSAs also offer shares of milk, butter, eggs, meat, and flowers; some also have formal links with consumer coops, giving shareholders access to a wide variety of goods. Within this web of economic relationships, the farms and families form a network of mutual support, whether the community is based in an urban neighborhood, a suburb, a church, a school, or some other social constellation. CSA has wide latitude for variation, depending on the resources and desires of the participants. No two community farms are entirely alike. As CSA pioneers conceived of it -- and as it is being practiced at many farms -- CSA is not just another new and clever approach to marketing. Rather, community farming is about the necessary renewal of agriculture through its healthy linkage with the human community that depends on farming for survival. It's also about the necessary stewardship of soil, plants, and animals: the essential capital of human cultures. For those with an interest in learning more about this alternative and the benefits it can bring to them, their families, and their communities, I offer links to two essays I have written on the subject, and links to resources and information. Community Farms in the 21st Century: Outside the Box, But Inside the Hoop http://www.chiron-communications.com/farms-2.html Farms of Tomorrow: Community Supported Farms, Farm Supported Communities http://www.chiron-communications.com/farms-1.html RESOURCES State of the World 2003 - Worldwatch Institute http://www.worldw
Re: Certification Story
Hi! Hugh, As always, you are right on the money. I have spent many years as a relationship councillor, first on the phones at "Life Line", and for the past ten years as part of my "Free Clinic". Again mostly by phone, some by email. About eighty percent of my clients are female. My clients are mainly relationship, with some bereavement.. I am also involved in a community based organisation, which looks after the interests of aged widows. Additionally most of my close friends are female, of whom Fran refers to, collectively as "Gil's Harem", but in reality, many of whom are also her close friends. The broad message I got is that very few of these ladies, have or have had in the past, a sexual relationship that measures up to their needs and expectations. I am seven years older than my brother. I am also four years older than "young" Hugh. "My " generation, as we went through high school and beyond, had a high level of promiscuity and a healthy libido. By contrast, my brother's generation has a large number of homosexuals and bisexuals. By a large number I mean something over eighty percent. As far as we can see, the main dietary difference was the introduction of cheap chicken raised on growth hormones. These included the chemical castration of male chickens to allow abnormal growth. Talking to the sexual partners of this group of males, those who are in in male/ female relationships, are not performing as their fathers and grandfather had done, without putting too fine a point on it. I think the junk food industry has a lot to answer for.. Gil Hugh Lovel wrote: > Dear Barbara and Woody, et. al., snip Many married > couples are not only not having sex, but that in the majority of these > cases it is the man who doesn't want it, etc
ADMIN: Re: (What do we have to LOSE/GAIN -was Lurkers) For ChrisShade
Very well said Jane. Gideon. But not so good said twice! Please, folks, edited your replies to make them as concise as possible. In short threads, the 'subject:' IS the reference! -Allan moderating
Power of the Minimum Dose: How to Make Homeopathic Remedies
http://www.homeopathic.co.nz/boericke/btmeth.htm The Pharmacy of Boericke and Tafel A Discussion of Manufacturing and Potencies from the 1925 B & T catalogue ATTENUATIONS OR DILUTIONS Science today is acknowledging and demonstrating the might of the infinitesimal. The massive doses of one hundred years ago have disappeared and the leaders in scientific medicine are no longer afraid to maintain that infinitesimal doses effect cures. Samuel Hahnemann was the first to demonstrate that massive doses were unnecessary. That the small dose is as or more effective. In the early part of his career, Hahnemann made use of the pure mother tinctures in ordinary doses, but observed that the primary or poisonous effects of the drug were too active. This induced him to reduce his doses until he came to make use of attenuations or dilutions, and he found that when the attenuations were properly prepared the drugs retained their specific or dynamic action and that the disease was more speedily overcome than when cruder preparations were employed. The truth of this observation became more and more evident as experience with the attenuations increased among the followers of Hahnemann. During Hahnemann's time it is probably true that attenuations, or potencies as they were soon named, higher than the three hundredth were not used, surely not by Hahnemann himself. However, as homeopathy spread from Germany all over the world the use of higher and higher potencies also increased until in the time of Swan, Fincke and others they reached the highest potencies ever used. Some who use the high potencies up to say the hand-made thousandths, scoff at the idea of the 10M, 50M and CM and while it is difficult to explain the modus operandi of the CM, it is just as difficult to explain the reason for the action of the hand-made two hundredths and yet the two hundredth potencies are used by thousands of homeopathic physicians with amazingly good results. The action of all drugs upon the human body is twofold. There is a primary action and there is a secondary action dynamic action. Corresponding to these two manifestations of power there are within the drug a material force or energy and a dynamic force or energy. The effect of the material or physical force or energy is sharp and violent, but short lived; the effect of the dynamic force is gentle, strong and long continued. Formerly it was thought that the force or strength of action is in some way dependent on the mass or weight of the drug administered. The violence of the primary action of a drug does bear a certain relation to its mass or weight, but the strength of its secondary or dynamic action has no relation to its mass or bulk. Its dynamic strength is, no doubt, increased because of the diffusion of molecules and their increased room for activity. PREPARATION OF POTENCIES Because of the extreme delicacy of these agents, too great a care in their preparation cannot be exercised. In our preparation of potencies for the use of homeopathic physicians, the utmost care is taken. The alcohol used is the finest spirits, made of sound grain. No chemical tests will determine the difference between grain and molasses alcohol, but all perfumery houses use only grain alcohol or spirits to hold in solution the delicate essence of the flowers from which the perfumes are made. We believe that in handling the homeopathic potencies we are handling substances far more delicate than the finest perfumes, hence we use only pure grain alcohol or spirits in making our potencies. All vehicles are scrupulously clean- no bottle or vial used to contain a remedy is ever used for any other remedy. All containers or bottles are new, clean and have never contained any remedy or drug. They are washed clean, rinsed in alcohol and sterilized. Those who make or "run up" these attenuations are pharmacists of experience. The physician who uses these potencies in the treatment of the sick can be sure that he is using an accurately made and honestly marked potency. The honest marking is highly important, also it is important to use the Hahnemannian method in making the potencies and marking them and not an arbitrary system of one's own as Jenichen did. Jenichen potentized some hundred or two homeopathic remedies, potentized them up to the "CM" and higher according to his owns system, and his method was to consider that every ten succussions given to a remedy raised the potency one centesimal; he did not add alcohol between each potency, but just hammered away and marked them up, but a Jenichen thousandth potency was not a thousandth potency at all. We use the Hahnemannian system in making and marking our potencies. For ninety-five years we have been accumulating this set of attenuations and years and years of work have been expended on them. Such a list as we carry in s
Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide
Dear Glen, Sorry I dont have a web page developed as yet. Hopefully some time this year. I dont see any problem with self proclaimed success. I expect that what I do will be successful. If it is not, then I will do whatever it takes to find out why it was not successful. Fortunately for us there is plenty of scope in Agricultural homeopathy and radionics to give the most fertile of minds free rein as to what they can explore. Isn't it great that we live in such interesting times that there are so many problems that we can put our minds to. Keep up the good work at some point the world will recognise the value of the pearls of wisdom that come from the mind of Glen Atkinson, Sincere regards James Hedley Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis Radionic Insect and Parasite control Bioethical Agriculture Consultant - Original Message - From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide > . Glen, will you please give Roger and I the URL of > > the research work on your Web Page, or if it is not on it could we please > > have a copy of it, or is it commercially confidential. > > Sorry nothing written to provide re 501 as weed control. > We did some work with Kikuyu grass on road verges in the early 90s. . Twas > reported in the local paper at the time but was not successful due to the > contractors lack of application repeats. > I have played with other ideas and would be using something other than 501 > these days, As described it speeds the plant up thru it growth cycle. There > are other preps we have which stop the growth cycle dead in its tracks which > would be more effective , once we get around to it. > re ownership > I agree that as soon as anything is in the public domain it is > everyones -ala patent and trademark laws, > At best one might get some credit for idea development if you make a loud > enough noise, but ownership can only come through labelling/branding and > keeping the details of your formula private ala microsoft. > This has long been the loophole the BDANZ has used to keep me from > publishing in their journal. Unless I reveal my formulas they will not > publish anything about the effectiveness of my products. Some ethos about BD > being a do it yourself practise. "Farmers for farmers" , watch out everyone > else. > They have not funded my work one bit ( actually actively discouraged support > for it) so have no right to the formulas which funds it. Instead they prefer > to tell their growers to use Phyrethreum for white fly than my BD remedy, > which they know works because they did a surprise inspection on one of my > client in 1992, when they did not believe his declarations. Strange but > true. > SO sadly we are back to privacy and secrecy if you wish to maintain > ownership. A luxury landowners may be able to do without but alas us > landless researchers have no other choice. > re 'the silence' > WHile there is always some scepticism about self proclaimed success, there > is also not much to say often. All we can do is wait and see the outcome as > time goes on. > James do you have a website with research docs and pics avaialable? > re research > In the near future we will be posting the results of a trial done recently > by Gill Cole of the efficacy of some of our remedies. Graphs and pictures > included. (Just tidying up the titles on the graph.) There is no doubt > potentised BD Preps work from this document. > cheers > Glen > >
Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide
Good work lloyd - Original Message - From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: Re: BD501 as a Weed Control was Re: BD501 as Herbicide > James Hedley wrote> > > The genesis of the concept that high potency peppers were able to destroy > > viability of weed seeds should be able to be found in the archives when I > > reported on the results of the years research work. This work is in the > > third year of testing and shows promise as a tool in weed control. There > are > > many other posts in the archives regarding the development of the use of > > high potency remedies in Agriculture. > Gooday James > Just to add to your info above - we harvested some wheat - got a little more > back than we planted - and took an economic decision to abandon some - > easier to give it to the sheep on site than smash our equipment up getting > it only to turn it back as sheep feed a month later - the point being most > annual plants that germinate will find a way of producing at least the > amount of seed required to ensure a start to next years growth even in very > adverse conditions, natures survival plan is pretty good. We are two years > into our program of peppering weeds, using homeopathic potencies that we > make in our sprayer tank when putting out the liquid calcium / molasses > spray (also aimed at weed control). Annual ryegrass germinated this year and > because of the extreme moisture shortage it affected the crop to some > extent, however the wheat and barley did manage to make some seed - more > than required to replace itself - the ryegrass never got past the mid > tillering stage, we had several hundred acres where it got to about three > inches of spindly growth (lots of plants) and then died without even putting > out a seed head, while the wheat went on to make viable grain. There are > several nutritional tactics involved in this also but none of it is > expensive or difficult to do. Potentising the tank is so simple its a joke, > I have used one small vial of ash for all of it, the instrument cost about > the same as spraying 25 hectares of herbicide. Perhaps there is light at the > end of the tunnel? (or is that a train I hear coming?) > Cheers > Lloyd Charles > >
Re: BD501 as a Weed Control
Dear Merla, I will leave this one to Roger but would humbly suggest that it is not a process to be usedf for as you say " I would like to try pepper+501 here on our road trials." For one it was done with an African Love grass Pepper , with the action supported by the 501. Except Roger did not know what the effect would be. The last thing that I would like to see is BD501 used as a new super duper Roundup. That has never been the intention, The long term results of using BD501 indiscriminately would have far more drastic long term implications than many of the existing herbicides. Sincere regards James - Original Message - From: "Merla Barberie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: Re: BD501 as a Weed Control > James and Roger, > > Please post this in detail. I would like to try pepper+501 here on our road > trials. Thank you. > > Merla > > Roger Pye wrote: > > > James Hedley wrote: > > > > >Roger may claim ownership of the Love grass technique but he cannot claim > > >ownership of my title of "the little wizard". Good evening to all. > > >Regards > > >James > > > > > Nor would I - there is only room for one 'little wizard of Oz' in this > > neck of the woods. As regards the rest of your message, and Lloyd's, I > > shall try to find the time to respond tomorrow. However, I would like it > > noted that until I talked to Barbara this morning, James, I had no > > knowledge of your previous work with 501 and thistles. I have tried to > > phone you several times tonight but it seems the lines are out between > > here and there. > > > > roger > >
Radionic weed control.
Dear Lloyd, I agree on the point of ill timed use of 501. There is sometimes a tendency to become too enthused with an idea. Heaven knows I can do it all the time. When the work at Dalgetty is being discussed it is in broad general terms of what is happening there. Roger informs me today of many trials that he is proposing to implement, to confirm or reject the basic hypothesis that has been proposed on the use of BD50. What I think has been shown is that BD preps are not quite as benign as they may appear. There may be many applications for their use that haven't been dreamt of yet. Since Cheryl Kemp introduced me to Biodynamics a few years ago I have only began to understand the action of a few of the preps, and how to use them on our farm. What I find fascinating is how you can predict by use of radionic analysis what the likely result of using any substance will be. Remember on the Saturday evening at the Wizards conference at Bellingen when a group of us were playing around with your new Don Mattioda instrument.It was amazing to stack up the inputs and see the variations in readings from various combinations substances. It is certainly better to be able to try out a strategy and see if it is likely to work than to go gung ho and wind up with egg on your face. Wishing you the best of luck with your tests with weed control. There is light at the end of the tunnel. It is not a train coming but a horde of people moving out of the darkness to see how Agricultural radionics may be able to help with seemingly intractable farming problems. That is what you can hear. Sincere regards, James - Original Message - From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: Re: changing focus 501 >
Re: changing focus 501
Dear Tony, My surmise on this scenario is that you dont take the use of BD501 as a herbicide/weedicide. What seems to be the implications from this experiment is that BD501 has some potential amongst other control tools. At no point should it be considered to be a substitute for good general farming practices. The development of the techniques involved with African Love Grass is Roger's project. My chosen method to trial is radionic broadcast of the Love Grass pepper. The block had already had 4 ( I think) applications of BD500, 1 application of BD501 and 200 litres/ acre of compost teas. previously there was hardly enough food to maintain 1 rabbit, it seems that now we have a problem with rabbits. Something has changed. Starting tomorrow I am going to start radionically broadcasting a rabbit pepper we used previously at Rockwell ( another Upper Snowy Landcare group project) which proved to be successful when sprayed out. the interesting part is that I live 600 kms from where the rabbit problem is. Will keep you informed on progress. Greetings from the Land of the Wizards of Oz James - Original Message - From: "Rambler Flowers LTD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: changing focus 501 > > Lloyd wrote > > 2. If your result at Dalgety was a quarter as good as Rogers description > of > > it we could use 501 mid day to flatten those regrowth weeds that cause us > to > > have to cultivate our fallow - we could even take stubbles through to > > another crop - no till BD!! > > Hi Lloyd are you thinking about established weeds or weed seedlings? > I am just thinking about how this might work in stale seed bed situation > where you cultivate and then zap emerging weed seeds. > How many times could you do this in season with out throwing things out of > kilter? > Would 501 have a greater impact on roots of perennial weeds then say a weed > burner? > > Cheers Tony Robinson > NZ Down Under > >
Re: (What do we have to LOSE/GAIN -was Lurkers) For Chris Shade
Very well said Jane. Gideon. - Original Message - From: "Jane Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 5:08 PM Subject: Re: (What do we have to LOSE/GAIN -was Lurkers) For Chris Shade > I am glad you got to vent, Chris. > > May I please clear some things up? I am not invested in any outcome here. I > have decided to stay on this list for many years, in spite of the aggression > heaped upon me from time to time, such as being accused of being as bad as > Hitler, accused of being out of touch with reality, and now being accused of > calling you a lurker. > > I don't care who lurks, who speaks or what they say. Allan is concerned > about lurkers, or more appropriately: he is concerned that because of a lack > of securiity on the internet, that there are many valuable members of this > list who don't feel comfortable enough to speak out. I doubt that a password > protected archive would help all of them open up. > > I agree that there are many levels and ways of being an activist, and > working from "inside" is a good one. I hope you don't have to compromise > yourself to do so. I am not a sign waver, I get along with people from many > walks of life and I don't profess to have some special wisdom. > > When I joined this list, I lived in NYC and was always out front about who I > thought I represented on this list at that time: a consumer. That was in > 1996, I think & I belonged to a biodynamic csa and had been informed about > Allan's list when it was in it's infancy. I mostly thrilled to learn that > not only did the bd food I'd been eating for 6 years taste great and have > more life force than any fresh food I'd eaten, but it had a spiritual > component as well. > > My husband and I started reading Steiner, I did a workshop and stirred > preparation 500 at a NYAnthro society with Guenther Hauk and put the preps > (500 & 501) which I received from Ferdinand on my houseplants and the trees > out front and a little in Central Park for two years. Granted I read Steiner > really slowly, have a bit of trouble with the lack of a female centric > presence of any kind other than Sophia/Isis and had some lively debates > about it at that time. > > Then I was lucky to escape the city and learn more in a hands on way in my > own garden. Without this list, I doubt I would have learned anything about > bd other than how good some biodynamic produce tasted & felt in my body. > > I am not at all Bd pious, in fact I find that funny. When the mess between > Ann (Demeter) and Mr. Willis happened, I took it upon myself to contact Ann > to try and find out for the list how she felt she could trademark a term > that was in the public domain. I didn't get anywhere, but I was certainly > not pious about that stuff. If I am pious about anything, it is to get LOVE > into the world and to help people find their own path to spirit, not a path > proscribed by any particular discipline or religion or cult. > > In fact, I have also quite vocally criticized the bd movement, anthropops, > and even Allan. I'm an equal opportunity critic! :-) > > So don't get angry at me for speaking out in this forum for what I believe > in. I don't even care if people think I am a bd pious old guard asshole, now > that you have misjudged me and it's going to be in the archive. I have never > wished anyone on this list to have employment problems either. I simply have > the courage (or foolishness) to say what I believe and if that means you > don't like me or won't give me work, then so be it. > > I believe we ALWAYS have choices, contrary to how things may appear at a > difficult crossroads. So when Lloyd says sometimes people don't have a > choice (children, aging parents to care for, rent to pay, whatever), I > simply don't agree. If you think you don't have choices, then you won't. I > know that there are always choices. > > I have NEVER told people they have to use preps or they're not bd. Frankly, > I think you're taking all your frustration out on me cause I have a 'big > mouth' and am NOT afraid to say what I think. Your anger at me is really > misplaced. > > Your information on this list has often been of interest to me and I > continue to read your posts. If my attitude bothers you, Chris, don't take > it personally, just delete my posts. > > Pax, > Jane > > PS: A google search on you just shows off your phd > > > From: Chris Shade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:30:40 -0800 (PST) > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: What do we have to LOSE/GAIN Re: LURKING was Re: Personal > > Security / Insecurity > > > > I have had it with your BD piety. If you had half of > > the wisdom you you think you have, you would see that > > not everybody involved in social change is running > > around as an acitvist waving signs and telling people > > they should use preps and become enlightened. Change > > happens on may levels, and some are
Re: changing focus 501
Hi Roger, Good on yer mate for thinking outside the square, welcome to the club. I did some of this about twenty years ago. My emphasis now is to see where the boundary is between benefit and damage. Horn Quartz's intended use is to enhance the ripening process and as Hugh Lovel has pointed out to indirectly increase the protien quantity and quality taken up by the plant. Very sorry to hear about the fires around your part of the world. We got some of your smoke in our atmosphere in N.Z. gave us some very red sun sets. Hope you get a good rain soon! We all need to learn to comunicate better with the elemental beings so they don't feel the need to create storms of fire, wind, water of ice. We need to appreciate the good work they do. Cheers Peter. - Original Message - From: "Roger Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: Re: changing focus 501 > Lloyd Charles wrote: > > >>> but I dont agree with the claim of 'ownership'. > >>> > >>Offering to pay my internet, research, travel and accommodation costs, > >>are you, Lloyd? :) > >> > >>> > >>>ps none of this will work without some rain - have not had any yet!! > >>> > >>This seems a very categoric statement - can you back it up for me please? > >>roger > >>-- > >> > >Roger > >In ordinary circumstances I would find this post very offensive (and very > >out of character for you) - these are not ordinary circumstances and you > >have had a very trying time - and its not over yet - dont get uptight about > >ownership - there was a prior claim to similar work (James) so what! I bet > >Glen Atkinson has looked at this too. I have been doing work with potentised > >preps for a couple of years - have a trial on right now with radionic > >compost preps making barrel compost - the whole world is welcome to the > >results good or bad when its done. > > > I wasn't aware that I was getting uptight about ownership, all I did was > stake a claim to a procedure I thought of 14 months ago and tested and > which looks as if it will be of benefit to the farming, and therefore > the whole, community. My motive in doing so has very little to do with > personal gain and a lot to do with stopping people from going off > half-cocked in putting my idea into practice without talking to me first > to make sure they do it correctly. If I wanted to make significant money > out of anything I would hardly be discussing it on a public forum like > this one, now would I? > > I researched BD501 and its uses from January to June last year on the > internet and in libraries. I found nothing of James' research and tests > or Glen's, or yours. At that time I did not even know that BDNOW! > existed and had never heard of radionics; I joined the list the same day > in August that I found out about it. Nor had I met James Hedley. If the > fact of any research and the results are not published anywhere > accessible in an easily recognisable or indexable form, then I feel I > can hardly be blamed for thinking that what I am doing is original. > > If I have offended you, Lloyd, or anyone else then I apologise because > that was not my intention. Nor am I denigrating or seeking to take away > from anyone's research. > > Now I don't want to get bogged down on this. Too many things on this > list do get bogged down on side issues. In the post you have taken > exception to, Lloyd, I asked why you thought rain was needed, and now I > am asking you again. > > cheers roger > >
Re: Good health and vitality
Hi Hugh, Sounds like you might be onto some good publicity material here!! Thirty and forty years ago the chalenge was NOT getting pregnant, now the chalenge we hear about much more often is getting pregnant. So good wholesome biodynamic food has its role to play here too. DDT and many other pesticide, herbicide chemicals have proven to be estrogen mimetic (they mimic) chemicals. With the estrogen mimetic hormones in beef and chicken and so forth, is it any wonder many men are not masculine any more? The problem is so profound that it has affected the sex of fish in Florida lakes, to say nothing of amphibian reproduction in the US Southeast which has declined by roughly 80%. I know many guys my age who are telling me they don't have any interest in sex any more. All these I know are eating commercial foods. Myself, I realized in my 20s that 10 times a day was my limit, but here I am at 55 and I still think in those terms. I don't think I could get it up for more than 10 times in a day, and don't think I'd often be motivated for more than 3 or 4, really. Mid-life crisis? I do know it is rare that the women in the suburbs eating conventional food are sexually satisfied by their husbands. (No wonder the divorce rate.) But most haven't any clue what to do about it outside of finding a young stud to fill the bill. Damn, women, feed your men clean, vital food! When I market vegetables I run into it all the time that happy housewives will pay what I ask without question because they know it works at their table and in their bedroom. it's time the public got a little more of an earful about what eating local, in-season and biodynamic food can do to raise things several leagues higher.! Best, Hugh Lovel. Good health and vitality to all, Peter.
Re: Root storage
"manfred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Nancy: what area are you in? must be coastal,...with so much use of >seaweed? >I'm 40K north of toronto. >manfred Southwest Nova Scotia, walking distance to the coast. Seaweed is still plentiful here, although die-offs are beginning in other areas. Nancy G. > __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
