Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2015-04-21 Thread kosake82
That's good, but what has caused the random rebooting? Can one fix it 
without updating to v3.14.23-ti-r34. Or in other words how can I fix it 
with the v3.12.9 if it's possible?


Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2014 22:18:23 UTC+1 schrieb RobertCNelson:

 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  @Wulf: I see this is your first contribution to our ongoing discussion 
 of 
  BBB random booting. 
  
  And your comment has what to do with this thread? 
  
  I am free to express my opinion of M$ products AFAIK, and many many 
 years of 
  unfortunate experiences has molded my viewpoint, but that's a topic for 
 a 
  different discussion. 
  
  Speaking of which, can we get back to the topic at hand, please? 

 Out side of v3.8.x it should be fixed with: 

 v3.14.23-ti-r34 
 v3.18.0-rc5-bone1 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2015-04-21 Thread Robert Nelson
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:56 AM,  kosak...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's good, but what has caused the random rebooting? Can one fix it
 without updating to v3.14.23-ti-r34. Or in other words how can I fix it with
 the v3.12.9 if it's possible?

Jiri Slaby backported it to kernel.org's: v3.12.39..

So upgrade...

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Greg Kelley
@William: you speak as if I was a newcomer to Linux. Truth is, I was one of 
the first to embrace Linux back in the 80s when I worked in Computer 
Services at the local University. I replaced several Windoze servers with 
Linux Servers and built Linux-based 'internet appliances' as we called them 
back then. I've probably forgotten more than most younger folks have 
figured out yet. So, please save your 'lecturing' for another time and 
place and let all of us here who are obviously less enlightened than 
yourself continue to figure out the reboot issue. Sharing our experiences 
(even if they are silly noob mistakes) all has merit in forming a picture 
of the issue that we as a group can evaluate and perhaps discover a 
solution. That's one of the great things about discussion forums such as 
this.

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:45:27 PM UTC-5, William Hermans wrote:

 @Greg Kelley

 Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux. This is how it used to be for 
 *ANYTHING* new to Debian, back in the day. This is why ppl such as myself 
 will often tell you research your hardware before you install debian on it. 
 Or more correctly. By hardware that has known debian support.

 Now days, this seems to be less of a problem, and you can very easily 
 exchange debian for Linux in general. But the general idea of 
 researching whatever you do, before you do it still stands. I even do 
 this with Windows in mind, and windows has far better driver support 
 compared to *ANY* OS out there. Period.




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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread evilwulfie
You have disrupted your creditability already by referencing Windows as
Windoze


On 11/19/2014 6:27 AM, Greg Kelley wrote:
 @William: you speak as if I was a newcomer to Linux. Truth is, I was
 one of the first to embrace Linux back in the 80s when I worked in
 Computer Services at the local University. I replaced several Windoze
 servers with Linux Servers and built Linux-based 'internet appliances'
 as we called them back then. I've probably forgotten more than most
 younger folks have figured out yet. So, please save your 'lecturing'
 for another time and place and let all of us here who are obviously
 less enlightened than yourself continue to figure out the reboot
 issue. Sharing our experiences (even if they are silly noob mistakes)
 all has merit in forming a picture of the issue that we as a group can
 evaluate and perhaps discover a solution. That's one of the great
 things about discussion forums such as this.

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:45:27 PM UTC-5, William Hermans wrote:

 @Greg Kelley

 Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux. This is how it used to be
 for *ANYTHING* new to Debian, back in the day. This is why ppl
 such as myself will often tell you research your hardware before
 you install debian on it. Or more correctly. By hardware that has
 known debian support.

 Now days, this seems to be less of a problem, and you can very
 easily exchange debian for Linux in general. But the general
 idea of researching whatever you do, before you do it still
 stands. I even do this with Windows in mind, and windows has far
 better driver support compared to *ANY* OS out there. Period.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:16 AM, evilwulfie evilwul...@gmail.com wrote:
 You have disrupted your creditability already by referencing Windows as
 Windoze

Isn't Windoze a trademarked feature of Micro$oft Windows?  Windows
detects user load, thus artificially slowing down basic tasks to reset
user user experience, unless customer loads up amazon.com and searches
for cpu/memory upgrade.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread William Hermans
Seems I hit a nerve, however I'm fairly sure that Linux has only been
around since 91 so . . .

Maybe you mean UNIX.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread William Hermans
Robert, heh yeah I do not know about that, but what would that say about
Linux considering at least around 2011 Microsoft was something like the
17th top code contributor for Linux . . . maybe they're trying to slow
things down ? hehehe

Honestly there is nothing wrong with any OS, only the users using them.
Mostly. WinME was pretty bad . . .

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-19 Thread Greg Kelley
I concur as I have been up and running three days now with no random 
reboots, so I consider this issue resolved.

Thanks Robert C,

Signing Off, Over and Out


On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:18:23 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:


 Out side of v3.8.x it should be fixed with: 

 v3.14.23-ti-r34 
 v3.18.0-rc5-bone1 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread Jason Lange
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Robert,
 
  I think part of the reason ntp and dhcpclient aren't getting network
  connections at boot is because they are set at S03 in init and wicd is
 set
  at S06 and is last to get going. It appears that eth0 is not coming up
 until
  wicd loads?

 Correct, wicd set's up eth0, that's how we got the 11-12 second bootup
 time. Otherwise if eth0 is handled by /etc/network/interfaces bootup
 could last 2 minutes for users who don't connect eth0.  I should
 atleast really move ntp from S03 to S06..


@Robert

There's no need to pull in wicd to solve this; all you need to do is to
replace auto eth0 with allow-hotplug eth0 (not both) in
/etc/network/interfaces.  This gives you eth0 at boot if it's plugged in
but it doesn't wait if it's not, and if you plug it in later it comes right
up.  Oddly it doesn't even wait very long if it's plugged in at start-up
and there is no dhcp being offered.  (all of this is assuming iface eth0
inet dhcp is in there too;  I imagine a static route comes up right away
regardless.)

Cheers.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread Robert Nelson
 @Robert

 There's no need to pull in wicd to solve this; all you need to do is to
 replace auto eth0 with allow-hotplug eth0 (not both) in
 /etc/network/interfaces.  This gives you eth0 at boot if it's plugged in
 but it doesn't wait if it's not, and if you plug it in later it comes right
 up.  Oddly it doesn't even wait very long if it's plugged in at start-up and
 there is no dhcp being offered.  (all of this is assuming iface eth0 inet
 dhcp is in there too;  I imagine a static route comes up right away
 regardless.)

Every time I've tried just allow-hotplug eth0 i get random
no-connections when the eth0 is plugged in..

For jessie, I've been using connman + cmst (gui for wifi users) and so
far it's been a lot smother then wicd in wheezy..

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread David Goodenough
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 11:40:42 Jason Lange wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
  On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com
  
  wrote:
   Robert,
   
   I think part of the reason ntp and dhcpclient aren't getting network
   connections at boot is because they are set at S03 in init and wicd is
  
  set
  
   at S06 and is last to get going. It appears that eth0 is not coming up
  
  until
  
   wicd loads?
  
  Correct, wicd set's up eth0, that's how we got the 11-12 second bootup
  time. Otherwise if eth0 is handled by /etc/network/interfaces bootup
  could last 2 minutes for users who don't connect eth0.  I should
  atleast really move ntp from S03 to S06..
 
 @Robert
 
 There's no need to pull in wicd to solve this; all you need to do is to
 replace auto eth0 with allow-hotplug eth0 (not both) in
 /etc/network/interfaces.  This gives you eth0 at boot if it's plugged in
 but it doesn't wait if it's not, and if you plug it in later it comes right
 up.  Oddly it doesn't even wait very long if it's plugged in at start-up
 and there is no dhcp being offered.  (all of this is assuming iface eth0
 inet dhcp is in there too;  I imagine a static route comes up right away
 regardless.)
 
 Cheers.
This is not what allow-hotplug means.  It refers to an ethernet interface such
as a USB device being plugged in.  In order to get the behaviour you want
you need ifplugd.  To quote from the package description:-

Description-en: configuration daemon for ethernet devices
 ifplugd is a daemon which will automatically configure your ethernet device
 when a cable is plugged in and automatically de-configure it if the cable is
 pulled out. This is useful on laptops with onboard network adapters, since it
 will only configure the interface when a cable is really connected.

David

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread Greg Kelley
Update to Reboot Issue:

OK I did two things at once which from my old Beta Tester days is a no-no 
since you can't figure out which change made a difference. But

I updated the kernel to 3.14.23-ti-r34

Then I did an apt-get update/upgrade and I noticed that dbus got upgraded 
in the process.

Now when I hot plug a USB stick into my external 7 port hub it comes right 
up. Before, it wouldn't get recognized unless I had a 'constantly on' 
device also plugged into the hub (like a printer), so dbus upgrade 'fixed' 
something regarding that issue

The really good news is I've been up for two days with no random reboots. 
New kernel or dbus? Don't know, don't care, as long as the reboot monster 
has been banished into the deep dark pit.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread Robert Nelson
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Update to Reboot Issue:

 OK I did two things at once which from my old Beta Tester days is a no-no
 since you can't figure out which change made a difference. But

 I updated the kernel to 3.14.23-ti-r34

 Then I did an apt-get update/upgrade and I noticed that dbus got upgraded in
 the process.

 Now when I hot plug a USB stick into my external 7 port hub it comes right
 up. Before, it wouldn't get recognized unless I had a 'constantly on' device
 also plugged into the hub (like a printer), so dbus upgrade 'fixed'
 something regarding that issue

 The really good news is I've been up for two days with no random reboots.
 New kernel or dbus? Don't know, don't care, as long as the reboot monster
 has been banished into the deep dark pit.

We had a couple musb patches get rolled in from ti..

https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/compare/3.14.23-ti-r33...3.14.23-ti-r34

otherwise we are defaulting to peripheral mode for the slave connector.

https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/commit/b30d918f1e9657d3a9b2eaf7fc6ea3f7ea545b5c

Thanks for testing!

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-11-18 Thread Britton Kerin
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Update to Reboot Issue:

 OK I did two things at once which from my old Beta Tester days is a no-no
 since you can't figure out which change made a difference. But

 I updated the kernel to 3.14.23-ti-r34

 Then I did an apt-get update/upgrade and I noticed that dbus got upgraded in
 the process.

 Now when I hot plug a USB stick into my external 7 port hub it comes right
 up. Before, it wouldn't get recognized unless I had a 'constantly on' device
 also plugged into the hub (like a printer), so dbus upgrade 'fixed'
 something regarding that issue

 The really good news is I've been up for two days with no random reboots.
 New kernel or dbus? Don't know, don't care, as long as the reboot monster
 has been banished into the deep dark pit.

 We had a couple musb patches get rolled in from ti..

 https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/compare/3.14.23-ti-r33...3.14.23-ti-r34

 otherwise we are defaulting to peripheral mode for the slave connector.

 https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/commit/b30d918f1e9657d3a9b2eaf7fc6ea3f7ea545b5c

I just had a strange incident in which a USB-connected device entirely lost
power on the BBB rev.C.  Otherwise the BBB continued operating normally.
I'm on a 6A power supply, with the software that shipped with the BBB.

Might this be related to these fixes?  Is there anything else on the software
side that might shut down power to the USB port?

Britton

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-15 Thread Greg Kelley
William,

I'm not using any I/O at this time. Setting this up in steps. First was to 
get it running as a CUPS and weewx Server like my RasPi. I can 'play' with 
it later once it's stable. Found a cable on eBay for $6 shipped from CA 
using PL303HX claims 3.3v TTL.

Also, no resets since 3pm yesterday when I switched PS. Maybe there is a 
problem with the SuperPowerSupply model KZ0502000, although the other BBB 
(element14) was resetting using both PS (SPS and Garmin) and even a direct 
USB connection. It's possible that there was a problem with both the other 
BBB and the SPS power supply. If it's happy with the Garmin I'll get a 
different 5v2a supply.

I am also solar but use a hybrid Grid-Tie Outback and a Manual Transfer 
Switch so when we lose power, it's dark until I can get to the switch. 
That's why I have all my electronics (cable modem, router, Vonage, etc on a 
UPS.

On Sunday, September 14, 2014 5:40:23 PM UTC-4, William Hermans wrote:

 william@arm:~$ uptime
  14:38:02 up 4 days,  4:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05

 And this is a small uptime. I've had it run for months at a time. Others 
 yet have had longer uptimes.

 One thing you have not mentioned, or at least i have not seen you mention 
 is if you're connecting anything on the IO pins. IF so, what.




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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-15 Thread skjortan
William which kernel release are you running when you have no reboots? 

On Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:42:40 PM UTC+1, William Hermans wrote:

 Oh, and right, only time I've had my beaglebone black reset, is when it 
 loses power ( we switch from generator, and back to solar ). Or I've 
 intentionally reset it. Mostly I reset my own board because I make lots of 
 changes to various things, and I want to make sure it comes back up as 
 intended from a reset.



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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-15 Thread skjortan
Hi we are experiencing the same problems as Greg. We are currently running 
more then 10 bbb in test booth revision 5b and 5c with the same results. We 
have tested both kernel version 3.14, 3.15 from ti as well as your builds 
with the same results.

Here are some stats from our boards running the  3.16.2-bone5 release..

192.168.1.160:uptime 9:52 ;reboot 3

192.168.1.161:no connection

192.168.1.162:uptime 2:16;reboot 1

192.168.1.163:uptime 8:06;reboot 2

192.168.1.164:uptime 2:50;reboot 3

192.168.1.165:uptime 5:12;reboot 1

192.168.1.167:uptime 13:38;reboot 3

192.168.1.169:no connection

We do have access to serial cables and are happy to support with any debug 
information you might want... We do not see anything weird in dmesg or the 
serial console which we have logged during the reboots.
On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:28:04 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  I have downgraded the kernel from 3.16.0-bone2 to 3.15.10-bone8 and so 
 far 
  no reboots in the last 3 hours. If I get a full 24 hr cycle without 
 reboots, 
  I'll blame it on 3.16.0 and try to re-attach ext USB HUB, weather data 
  logger, printer, and enable cups and weewx and see how far I get this 
 time. 

 Thanks for the report, please let us know how v3.15.x react's too.. 
 I'm currently chasing a few other issues with v3.16.x (acpi isn't 
 working) 

 btw, if you want something that's going to be a lot more 
 supported/tested down the road. 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r15 

 We are preping for a big transition. 
 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-15 Thread skjortan
Hi Robert i am having the same issues with at least 10 individual bbb 
boards both rev 5b and 5c and from booth adafruit and curcuitco. We are 
currently running them on a board with nice lab qualiy profesional 5v 
sources and ethernet and are pinging them constantly to simulate some sort 
of network activity. We have two of them connected via uart0 serial and 
have been logging that without spotting anything weird. Basically they just 
reboot. there is no trace of Oops or Panic...

We have tried the 3.14 kernels from ti and your kernel builds up to 
the 3.16.2-bone5 build. we have also compiled custom kernels trying to 
disable stuff like the otg based on another thread without success. 

Still we still have an average of one reboot per day.

we do have access to serial cables and are happy to assist with any debug 
info you might want. We have found nothing in dmesg and when logging the 
serial console we have so far seen nothing. I actually starts looking as a 
proper reset. 

Some reboot stats.. 
192.168.1.x:uptime 4:19 ;reboot 3

192.168.1.x:uptime 1 day 2:12 reboot 0

192.168.1.162:uptime 1 day 2:13;reboot 0

192.168.1.x:uptime 16:10;reboot 1

192.168.1.x:uptime 19:21;reboot 2

192.168.1.x:uptime 11:23;reboot 1

192.168.1.x:uptime 15:05;reboot 1

192.168.1.x:uptime 11:14;reboot 1

192.168.1.x:uptime 02:29;reboot 1

--Thomas

On Friday, September 12, 2014 2:55:47 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  Update: I received my new BBB - a CurcuitCo version from Adafruit on 
  Tuesday. On Wednesday I got it set up almost identical to the other one 
 I 
  sent back. It has 3.14.17-bone8 kernel. It rebooted/reset on Thursday at 
  2:15am and the physical ethernet port was down, so I had to connect via 
 the 
  USB port to look at syslog and see what happened. There is no entry for 
  reboot or shutdown so it looks like a complete reset is taking place. 
 Logs 
  show ethernet port not coming up and dhcpclient says network unreachable 

 I know it's a little intrussive, but can you do me a favor...  Have 
 another machine log the debug serial port... Then we can see what's 
 going on.. 

 BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig 
 image: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 

 Regards, 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Greg Kelley
I got a third reset yesterday at 11:53pm but no resets this morning between 
7am and 8am. The only log file entry I could find that matched a reset was 
in wtmp: Sat Sep 13 07:13 - crash (-5369+-11:-  and there are a half dozen 
other 'crash' entries in the log as well.


On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
 reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
 at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
 at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
 times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
 until the new boot sequence starts.

 On Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:25:57 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: I installed 3.14.17-ti-r19 yesterday about 3pm and set eth0 to 
 auto so it comes up earlier than wicp. Ran fine until 7:13am this morning 
 then did it's usual reset thing. Very frustrating. Guess I'll have to 
 spring for that cable. 

 On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 

 BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig 
 image: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 

 Regards, 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I got a third reset yesterday at 11:53pm but no resets this morning 
between 7am and 8am. The only log file entry I could find that matched a 
reset was in wtmp: Sat Sep 13 07:13 - crash (-5369+-11:-  and there are a 
half dozen other 'crash' entries in the log as well.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
 reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
 at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
 at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
 times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
 until the new boot sequence starts.



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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Maxim Podbereznyy
Why don't you share the crash log?
14 Сен 2014 г. 18:31 пользователь Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com
написал:

 Update: I got a third reset yesterday at 11:53pm but no resets this
 morning between 7am and 8am. The only log file entry I could find that
 matched a reset was in wtmp: Sat Sep 13 07:13 - crash (-5369+-11:-  and
 there are a half dozen other 'crash' entries in the log as well.

 On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because
 it reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and
 today at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab
 jobs at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily
 reset times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except
 cron.hourly until the new boot sequence starts.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Greg Kelley
Another reset early this afternoon, so I have shutdown and removed the 5v2a 
cheapo PS and replaced it with a Garmin 5v1a PS I have that uses the mini 
USB instead of the banana plug. I want to eliminate the current PS as the 
problem. All my PS are in two power strips plugged into an APC Battery 
Backup so power is conditioned, filtered, and constant.

I'm spending waaa too much time with this since my RasPi has been set 
up same way and running 24/7 since I plugged it in with zero issues.

Am I the only one with constant resets on a BBB?

I'm hesitant to drop $24 on a serial debug cable that I'll use maybe two 
days to capture data that might or might not shed light on the issue.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
 reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
 at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
 at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
 times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
 until the new boot sequence starts.




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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread William Hermans
william@arm:~$ uptime
 14:38:02 up 4 days,  4:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05

And this is a small uptime. I've had it run for months at a time. Others
yet have had longer uptimes.

One thing you have not mentioned, or at least i have not seen you mention
is if you're connecting anything on the IO pins. IF so, what.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another reset early this afternoon, so I have shutdown and removed the
 5v2a cheapo PS and replaced it with a Garmin 5v1a PS I have that uses the
 mini USB instead of the banana plug. I want to eliminate the current PS as
 the problem. All my PS are in two power strips plugged into an APC Battery
 Backup so power is conditioned, filtered, and constant.

 I'm spending waaa too much time with this since my RasPi has been set
 up same way and running 24/7 since I plugged it in with zero issues.

 Am I the only one with constant resets on a BBB?

 I'm hesitant to drop $24 on a serial debug cable that I'll use maybe two
 days to capture data that might or might not shed light on the issue.

 On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because
 it reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and
 today at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab
 jobs at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily
 reset times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except
 cron.hourly until the new boot sequence starts.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread William Hermans
Oh, and right, only time I've had my beaglebone black reset, is when it
loses power ( we switch from generator, and back to solar ). Or I've
intentionally reset it. Mostly I reset my own board because I make lots of
changes to various things, and I want to make sure it comes back up as
intended from a reset.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 william@arm:~$ uptime
  14:38:02 up 4 days,  4:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05

 And this is a small uptime. I've had it run for months at a time. Others
 yet have had longer uptimes.

 One thing you have not mentioned, or at least i have not seen you mention
 is if you're connecting anything on the IO pins. IF so, what.

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Another reset early this afternoon, so I have shutdown and removed the
 5v2a cheapo PS and replaced it with a Garmin 5v1a PS I have that uses the
 mini USB instead of the banana plug. I want to eliminate the current PS as
 the problem. All my PS are in two power strips plugged into an APC Battery
 Backup so power is conditioned, filtered, and constant.

 I'm spending waaa too much time with this since my RasPi has been set
 up same way and running 24/7 since I plugged it in with zero issues.

 Am I the only one with constant resets on a BBB?

 I'm hesitant to drop $24 on a serial debug cable that I'll use maybe two
 days to capture data that might or might not shed light on the issue.

 On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because
 it reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and
 today at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab
 jobs at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily
 reset times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except
 cron.hourly until the new boot sequence starts.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread William Hermans
Greg, buying a serial debug cable really is necessary if you intend to do
anything serious with the BBB. However . . .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/351093728732?lpid=82

According to the PL2303HX datasheet it is 3v3 TTL, but double check for
yourself. I've seen these cheap USB-Serial converters go for as low as
2-3 USD. Cables, 6 bux US is about as low as I remember having seen them.
From what I understand they're also supposed to be fairly decent, but as
with anything else YMMV.

You said something about having other cables / modules just wrong header ?
why not whip an adapter up ? Not that hard to make / use jumper wires . . .
does matter if it looks pretty so long as it serves it's purpose.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, and right, only time I've had my beaglebone black reset, is when it
 loses power ( we switch from generator, and back to solar ). Or I've
 intentionally reset it. Mostly I reset my own board because I make lots of
 changes to various things, and I want to make sure it comes back up as
 intended from a reset.

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 william@arm:~$ uptime
  14:38:02 up 4 days,  4:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05

 And this is a small uptime. I've had it run for months at a time. Others
 yet have had longer uptimes.

 One thing you have not mentioned, or at least i have not seen you mention
 is if you're connecting anything on the IO pins. IF so, what.

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Another reset early this afternoon, so I have shutdown and removed the
 5v2a cheapo PS and replaced it with a Garmin 5v1a PS I have that uses the
 mini USB instead of the banana plug. I want to eliminate the current PS as
 the problem. All my PS are in two power strips plugged into an APC Battery
 Backup so power is conditioned, filtered, and constant.

 I'm spending waaa too much time with this since my RasPi has been
 set up same way and running 24/7 since I plugged it in with zero issues.

 Am I the only one with constant resets on a BBB?

 I'm hesitant to drop $24 on a serial debug cable that I'll use maybe two
 days to capture data that might or might not shed light on the issue.

 On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because
 it reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and
 today at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab
 jobs at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily
 reset times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except
 cron.hourly until the new boot sequence starts.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread David Lambert
I agree, serial cable is a must. Here's one a bit cheaper and on Amazon 
Prime:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008AGDTA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1

On 09/14/2014 04:53 PM, William Hermans wrote:
Greg, buying a serial debug cable really is necessary if you intend to 
do anything serious with the BBB. However . . .


http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/351093728732?lpid=82

According to the PL2303HX datasheet it is 3v3 TTL, but double check 
for yourself. I've seen these cheap USB-Serial converters go for as 
low as 2-3 USD. Cables, 6 bux US is about as low as I remember having 
seen them. From what I understand they're also supposed to be fairly 
decent, but as with anything else YMMV.


You said something about having other cables / modules just wrong 
header ? why not whip an adapter up ? Not that hard to make / use 
jumper wires . . . does matter if it looks pretty so long as it serves 
it's purpose.


On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com 
mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, and right, only time I've had my beaglebone black reset, is
when it loses power ( we switch from generator, and back to solar
). Or I've intentionally reset it. Mostly I reset my own board
because I make lots of changes to various things, and I want to
make sure it comes back up as intended from a reset.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM, William Hermans
yyrk...@gmail.com mailto:yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

william@arm:~$ uptime
 14:38:02 up 4 days,  4:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.04,
0.03, 0.05

And this is a small uptime. I've had it run for months at a
time. Others yet have had longer uptimes.

One thing you have not mentioned, or at least i have not seen
you mention is if you're connecting anything on the IO pins.
IF so, what.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Greg Kelley
suekkel...@gmail.com mailto:suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:

Another reset early this afternoon, so I have shutdown and
removed the 5v2a cheapo PS and replaced it with a Garmin
5v1a PS I have that uses the mini USB instead of the
banana plug. I want to eliminate the current PS as the
problem. All my PS are in two power strips plugged into an
APC Battery Backup so power is conditioned, filtered, and
constant.

I'm spending waaa too much time with this since my
RasPi has been set up same way and running 24/7 since I
plugged it in with zero issues.

Am I the only one with constant resets on a BBB?

I'm hesitant to drop $24 on a serial debug cable that I'll
use maybe two days to capture data that might or might not
shed light on the issue.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:14:05 AM UTC-4, Greg
Kelley wrote:

Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's
interesting, because it reset twice yesterday at
almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today at
7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I
have no ctontab jobs at those times. Appears to be
some sort of pattern due to the daily reset times
being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except
cron.hourly until the new boot sequence starts.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-14 Thread Mike

On 09/14/2014 08:24 PM, David Lambert wrote:
I agree, serial cable is a must. Here's one a bit cheaper and on 
Amazon Prime:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008AGDTA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1

On 09/14/2014 04:53 PM, William Hermans wrote:
Greg, buying a serial debug cable really is necessary if you intend 
to do anything serious with the BBB. However . . .


http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/351093728732?lpid=82

According to the PL2303HX datasheet it is 3v3 TTL, but double check 
for yourself. I've seen these cheap USB-Serial converters go for as 
low as 2-3 USD. Cables, 6 bux US is about as low as I remember having 
seen them. From what I understand they're also supposed to be fairly 
decent, but as with anything else YMMV.




snipped

Not on prime, but only 2.43.
http://www.amazon.com/niceeshop-PL2303HX-RS232-Module-Converter/dp/B00F167PWE/ref=pd_cp_e_1

I've got several similar to this based on a Maxim 3232 chip. Supports 
both 3.3 and 5 volts.

http://www.amazon.com/RS232-converter-board-Female-3-3V/dp/B005D5T292/ref=pd_sim_pc_6?ie=UTF8refRID=12YRHXYJFNYQ50A5D8BZ

The shipping on the above rather kills the low price.  I ordered mine 
from China and the slow boat shipping, typically 3 to 4 weeks. They are 
very versatile little boards.


Another option if you have a level converter handy is use your Rpi to 
get the serial output from the BBB.  If memory serves the Rpi is 5 volt 
on everything.


Mike

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-13 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I installed 3.14.17-ti-r19 yesterday about 3pm and set eth0 to auto 
so it comes up earlier than wicp. Ran fine until 7:13am this morning then 
did it's usual reset thing. Very frustrating. Guess I'll have to spring for 
that cable. 

On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 

 BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig 
 image: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 

 Regards, 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-13 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: the BBB just reset again at 7:49am. That's interesting, because it 
reset twice yesterday at almost the same times 7:35am and 8:13am and today 
at 7:13am and 7:49am. cron daily runs at 6:25am and I have no ctontab jobs 
at those times. Appears to be some sort of pattern due to the daily reset 
times being so close, but there is nothing is syslog except cron.hourly 
until the new boot sequence starts.

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:25:57 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Update: I installed 3.14.17-ti-r19 yesterday about 3pm and set eth0 to 
 auto so it comes up earlier than wicp. Ran fine until 7:13am this morning 
 then did it's usual reset thing. Very frustrating. Guess I'll have to 
 spring for that cable. 

 On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com wrote: 

 BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig 
 image: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 

 Regards, 

 -- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Update: I received my new BBB - a CurcuitCo version from Adafruit on 
Tuesday. On Wednesday I got it set up almost identical to the other one I 
sent back. It has 3.14.17-bone8 kernel. It rebooted/reset on Thursday at 
2:15am and the physical ethernet port was down, so I had to connect via the 
USB port to look at syslog and see what happened. There is no entry for 
reboot or shutdown so it looks like a complete reset is taking place. Logs 
show ethernet port not coming up and dhcpclient says network unreachable

I did a power down and restart and it ran fine until Friday morning and 
reset twice at 7:35am and almost immediately again at 7:50am. Both times it 
looks like during the boot sequence that network services are starting 
after ntpd as ntpd can't resolve hosts. dhcpclient can't find the network 
and retries about a half dozen times then the ethernet port finally comes 
up and it's back online. This is physically plugged into the same hub that 
my RasPi is plugged into (and has been running non-stop for over two weeks 
now, no issues with it whatsoever).

I certainly can't use this BBB as a print and weather data server with it 
behaving this way so I'll keep these running on the RasPi until I can 
figure out why this is resetting constantly. Using a 5v 2a power supply and 
I've tried two different ones with the other BBB so I don't think it's a PS 
issue, but that doesn't leave much else to blame for random resets.

Ideas and suggestions welcome.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Update: I received my new BBB - a CurcuitCo version from Adafruit on
 Tuesday. On Wednesday I got it set up almost identical to the other one I
 sent back. It has 3.14.17-bone8 kernel. It rebooted/reset on Thursday at
 2:15am and the physical ethernet port was down, so I had to connect via the
 USB port to look at syslog and see what happened. There is no entry for
 reboot or shutdown so it looks like a complete reset is taking place. Logs
 show ethernet port not coming up and dhcpclient says network unreachable

I know it's a little intrussive, but can you do me a favor...  Have
another machine log the debug serial port... Then we can see what's
going on..

BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig image:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Hi Robert, I just checked around and a Debug Cable (34M8872 FTDI 
TTL-232R-3V3) is $42 on eBay. I don't mind spending some time 
troubleshooting this but not willing to go out and invest in pieces and 
parts. I do have two Serial to USB cables to connect to some HAM Radio 
gear, but not the right header connectors.

I'll upgrade to the latest 3.14 image too.


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 I know it's a little intrussive, but can you do me a favor...  Have 
 another machine log the debug serial port... Then we can see what's 
 going on.. 

 BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig 
 image: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Robert, I just checked around and a Debug Cable (34M8872 FTDI
 TTL-232R-3V3) is $42 on eBay. I don't mind spending some time
 troubleshooting this but not willing to go out and invest in pieces and
 parts. I do have two Serial to USB cables to connect to some HAM Radio gear,
 but not the right header connectors.

Wow, they go for a premium on ebay..

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TTL-232R-3V3/768-1015-ND/1836393


 I'll upgrade to the latest 3.14 image too.

Try that newer 3.14 for a few days first.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert, apt-get couldn't find linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19, will go check on 
your site and get install-me.sh

On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:43:14 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Hi Robert, I just checked around and a Debug Cable (34M8872 FTDI 
 TTL-232R-3V3) is $42 on eBay. I don't mind spending some time 
 troubleshooting this but not willing to go out and invest in pieces and 
 parts. I do have two Serial to USB cables to connect to some HAM Radio 
 gear, but not the right header connectors.

 I'll upgrade to the latest 3.14 image too.


 On Friday, September 12, 2014 9:55:47 AM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:


 I know it's a little intrussive, but can you do me a favor...  Have 
 another machine log the debug serial port... Then we can see what's 
 going on.. 

 BTW, that 3.14.x isn't being worked on... If you have a new testnig 
 image: 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19 

 Regards, 

 -- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert, apt-get couldn't find linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r19, will go check on
 your site and get install-me.sh

The repo wasn't added till mid july:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Image_Testing_Snapshots

in your case, you can also do:

cd /opt/scripts/tools/
git pull

sudo ./update_kernel.sh --ti-kernel

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert,

I think part of the reason ntp and dhcpclient aren't getting network 
connections at boot is because they are set at S03 in init and wicd is set 
at S06 and is last to get going. It appears that eth0 is not coming up 
until wicd loads?

Also, the install-me.sh failed at the end with final zImage copy because it 
creates backups of everything and /boot (92Mb) runs out of space. I had to 
manually remove previous image files from /boot and /boot/uboot then run 
the script so it had room to install everything. Seems /boot partition is 
too small.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,

 I think part of the reason ntp and dhcpclient aren't getting network
 connections at boot is because they are set at S03 in init and wicd is set
 at S06 and is last to get going. It appears that eth0 is not coming up until
 wicd loads?

Correct, wicd set's up eth0, that's how we got the 11-12 second bootup
time. Otherwise if eth0 is handled by /etc/network/interfaces bootup
could last 2 minutes for users who don't connect eth0.  I should
atleast really move ntp from S03 to S06..

 Also, the install-me.sh failed at the end with final zImage copy because it
 creates backups of everything and /boot (92Mb) runs out of space. I had to
 manually remove previous image files from /boot and /boot/uboot then run the
 script so it had room to install everything. Seems /boot partition is too
 small.

Yeah it runs out of space fast.

That's one of the reasons we moved all the boot files out of the 96Mb
boot partition..

You can see the high level details (1) what i did (first implemented
in the july testing image (2))

Basicly, all the kernel/modules/dtbs are now in the big ext4 partition...

1: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:U-boot_partitioning_layout_2.0

2: 
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Image_Testing_Snapshots

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert,

I discovered the /etc/network/interfaces issue snooping around and just set 
eth0 to auto load there and my total boot time is now 7s instead of 12s 
with all the ntp and dhcpclient retries gone.

So I guess if using the install-me script, I'll have to manually remove the 
previous kernel files in /boot and /boot/uboot before running it so there's 
room. Does the .deb file install (apt-get install) also do backups? If so, 
it should fail as well. Looks like about 110Mb for /boot partition should 
be enough to hold current and backups of previous.

I'm getting a ton of these in syslog at boot:

kernel: [   xx.xx] unwind: Index not found bf0f4334

Also, I noticed that in a reboot it keeps the current time for all syslog 
boot messages, so I know it's getting a full reset randomly because the 
time in syslog is from /etc/timestamp (which I update every 15 minutes so I 
can tell when it's resetting).

On Friday, September 12, 2014 12:35:31 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 

 

 Correct, wicd set's up eth0, that's how we got the 11-12 second bootup 
 time. Otherwise if eth0 is handled by /etc/network/interfaces bootup 
 could last 2 minutes for users who don't connect eth0.  I should 
 atleast really move ntp from S03 to S06.. 

  Also, the install-me.sh failed at the end with final zImage copy because 
 it 
  creates backups of everything and /boot (92Mb) runs out of space. I had 
 to 
  manually remove previous image files from /boot and /boot/uboot then run 
 the 
  script so it had room to install everything. Seems /boot partition is 
 too 
  small. 

 Yeah it runs out of space fast. 

 That's one of the reasons we moved all the boot files out of the 96Mb 
 boot partition.. 




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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,

 I discovered the /etc/network/interfaces issue snooping around and just set
 eth0 to auto load there and my total boot time is now 7s instead of 12s with
 all the ntp and dhcpclient retries gone.

 So I guess if using the install-me script, I'll have to manually remove the
 previous kernel files in /boot and /boot/uboot before running it so there's
 room. Does the .deb file install (apt-get install) also do backups? If so,
 it should fail as well. Looks like about 110Mb for /boot partition should be
 enough to hold current and backups of previous.

With the new apt-get install linux-image-xyz partition setup

each linux-image-xyz has it's own set of:

/boot/vmlinuz-xyz
/boot/initrd.img-xyz
/boot/dtbs/xyz/*.dtb

You can switch between different kernels by updating (uname_r) in:

/boot/uEnv.txt

(all located in ext4, so it'll take a while to run out of space)

 I'm getting a ton of these in syslog at boot:

 kernel: [   xx.xx] unwind: Index not found bf0f4334

Yeap, unwind isn't setup yet.. The 3.14 is wip in progress, but it's
more reliable then v3.8.x for me..

 Also, I noticed that in a reboot it keeps the current time for all syslog
 boot messages, so I know it's getting a full reset randomly because the time
 in syslog is from /etc/timestamp (which I update every 15 minutes so I can
 tell when it's resetting).

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert, 

I just made a note to myself to comment out the backup commands in your 
install-me script file (so that should leave enough space in uboot) before 
I run it.


On Friday, September 12, 2014 1:23:35 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 

 With the new apt-get install linux-image-xyz partition setup 

 each linux-image-xyz has it's own set of: 

 /boot/vmlinuz-xyz 
 /boot/initrd.img-xyz 
 /boot/dtbs/xyz/*.dtb 

 You can switch between different kernels by updating (uname_r) in: 

 /boot/uEnv.txt 

 (all located in ext4, so it'll take a while to run out of space) 




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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,

 I just made a note to myself to comment out the backup commands in your
 install-me script file (so that should leave enough space in uboot) before I
 run it.

With the direction we are heading, those install-me.sh's are becoming
obsolete.. ;)

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Greg Kelley
Makes sense, but if apt-get doesn't work it's a good fall-back for now.

I guess if I get more random resets, I'll have to spring for that serial 
debug cable @ $23 shipped from DigiKey.



On Friday, September 12, 2014 3:35:00 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  Robert, 
  
  I just made a note to myself to comment out the backup commands in your 
  install-me script file (so that should leave enough space in uboot) 
 before I 
  run it. 

 With the direction we are heading, those install-me.sh's are becoming 
 obsolete.. ;) 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread William Hermans
If you've got an MSP430 launchpad laying around, you could use that too (
for serial debug ). But you'll have to make / use 3 jumpers, and baud rate
is limited to 9600bps ( msp430 side ).

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Makes sense, but if apt-get doesn't work it's a good fall-back for now.

 I guess if I get more random resets, I'll have to spring for that serial
 debug cable @ $23 shipped from DigiKey.



 On Friday, September 12, 2014 3:35:00 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com wrote:
  Robert,
 
  I just made a note to myself to comment out the backup commands in your
  install-me script file (so that should leave enough space in uboot)
 before I
  run it.

 With the direction we are heading, those install-me.sh's are becoming
 obsolete.. ;)

 Regards,


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:29 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you've got an MSP430 launchpad laying around, you could use that too (
 for serial debug ). But you'll have to make / use 3 jumpers, and baud rate
 is limited to 9600bps ( msp430 side ).

Do you mind saying how you'd use it for serial debug? does it have a
USB-serial passthrough burned in, or are you saying that it could be
programmed to bridge serial - USB?

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-12 Thread William Hermans
It can be setup as a Serial pass through / Bridge. No programming required.

http://forum.beaglefu.com/topic/92-msp430-launchpad-v15-serial-debug/

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Przemek Klosowski 
przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:29 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  If you've got an MSP430 launchpad laying around, you could use that too (
  for serial debug ). But you'll have to make / use 3 jumpers, and baud
 rate
  is limited to 9600bps ( msp430 side ).

 Do you mind saying how you'd use it for serial debug? does it have a
 USB-serial passthrough burned in, or are you saying that it could be
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-05 Thread Greg Kelley
Hi Robert, I reflashed the original distro and it ran for about a half hour 
and rebooted so I have determined it is a hardware issue, (probably a 
grounding problem according to the vendor so perhaps there is a QC issue at 
element14) so I have returned the element14 BBB to the vendor for a refund 
and ordered a CircuitCo BBB from Adafruit. Will arrive Monday so will have 
it up and running on Tuesday. I plan to upgrade the kernel to 3.14.17-bone8 
which is close to what you recommended for stability and long term support. 
I can give the 2014-09-13 image a try before kernel upgrade if you need me 
to test but it will be on a new BBB and not the 'problem child'. Thanks for 
all you hard work, makes maintaining a BBB pretty painless.

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 Greg, please give this image a shot. 

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-09-03 

 It includes all the 3.8 kernel fixes since the May release came out.. 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-05 Thread Greg Kelley
Robert, I just looked at the kernel in this image (3.8.13-bone64) and that 
was the first image I flashed after receiving the BBB. I had USB hot plug 
issues with that kernel version so I upgraded to 3.16.0. It would not 
recognize an external USB Hub plugged in after startup, only when plugged 
in at power up and would not recognize any USB devices hot plugged into the 
Hub. Not a problem with 3.14, 3.15, 3.16 when I was testing.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:28:58 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Greg Kelley suekk...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 

 Greg, please give this image a shot. 

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-09-03 

 It includes all the 3.8 kernel fixes since the May release came out.. 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread PLyttle



Maybe check your power plug. There are many plugs that fit the socket on a 
BBB, but some do not provide a reliable connection. The one you should be 
using is having a spring-loaded central socket - see picture


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6GsrCWTQGm8/VAg0LNmyrjI/AAM/u9Zmu0JT_kU/s1600/628316725_827.jpg

LP


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 I am booting straight from eMMC that I flashed, no uSD and no serial 
 interface. I have disabled cups and weewx from starting and removed the 
 external USB HUB and changed the power supply to another 5v 2a. I can tell 
 it has rebooted by looking at syslog for ntpdate 'step time server' events. 
 My syslog resets daily at 6am, so looking at syslog1 it rebooted 10 times 
 in last 24hrs. This is not a shutdown or reboot it is a system reset. Since 
 I have removed all external attachments and USB is idle, I have to assume 
 it's either a board hardware issue or the 3.16 kernel as reboot times are 
 random and I don't have anything in cron.hourly. In 3.16 leds have been 
 renamed to heartbeat, mmc0, usr2, usr3. I have heartbeat turned off. PSTREE 
 not installed and apparently not a .deb dist either.

 On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 3:41:54 AM UTC-4, Michaël Vaes wrote:

 When the SD card is inserted it automatically boots from there. Have a 
 look if there is a file called 'eMMC-flasher.txt' in the root of your SD 
 card it will start flashing on each reboot and reboots again. 

 If that doesn't solve it I would suggest overwrite the following commands 
 with a bash script that logs the output of a PSTREE to a logfile.   
  - halt 
  - shutdown 
  - reboot 

 That will allow you to see what is triggering it. 

 Michaël



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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Plug on both power supplies is correct size and fit nice and snug.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 5:46:22 AM UTC-4, PLyttle wrote:


 Maybe check your power plug. There are many plugs that fit the socket on a 
 BBB, but some do not provide a reliable connection. The one you should be 
 using is having a spring-loaded central socket - see picture



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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Instead of rebooting 10 to 12 times it only rebooted 3 times in syslog, at 
6:24pm and 11:06pm and 12:03am. Still random reboots though with nothing in 
USB and sitting idle. Not so sure it's a kernel issue at this point, could 
be hardware related but willing to try another kernel to see what happens.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Maxim Podbereznyy
power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This issue
was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue disappeared
with the 3.8


2014-09-04 14:45 GMT+04:00 Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com:

 Instead of rebooting 10 to 12 times it only rebooted 3 times in syslog, at
 6:24pm and 11:06pm and 12:03am. Still random reboots though with nothing in
 USB and sitting idle. Not so sure it's a kernel issue at this point, could
 be hardware related but willing to try another kernel to see what happens.

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
I just downgraded to 3.14.17-bone8 so let's see how that works. Will watch 
syslog for 24 hrs and see if it reboots.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 12:28:04 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:


 Thanks for the report, please let us know how v3.15.x react's too.. 
 I'm currently chasing a few other issues with v3.16.x (acpi isn't 
 working) 

 btw, if you want something that's going to be a lot more 
 supported/tested down the road. 

 sudo apt-get update 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r15 

 We are preping for a big transition. 
 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14 

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Thanks for the suggestion, if I get reboots with 3.14.17 I'll try the usb 
power and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 3.8 although I had USB hot 
plug issues with that version.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:49:16 AM UTC-4, lisarden wrote:

 power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This issue 
 was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue disappeared 
 with the 3.8





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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
BBB ran for 6 hours and just rebooted at 12:30pm so I now have it powered 
through the USB port with a 5v1a power supply instead of through the main 
power plug. If this reboots my last attempt will be to downgrade back to 
3.8 and if it still reboots I'll have to send it back. It's an element14 
purchased from an online vendor.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:04:52 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion, if I get reboots with 3.14.17 I'll try the usb 
 power and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 3.8 although I had USB hot 
 plug issues with that version.

 On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:49:16 AM UTC-4, lisarden wrote:

 power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This 
 issue was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue 
 disappeared with the 3.8





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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Greg Kelley
Well it just ran for about 15 minutes and rebooted using USB power, so I'm 
going to reflash eMMC with original distro and try that then return if it 
reboots again. Will get a BBB from Adafruit although the vendor has offered 
to send another element14 replacement.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:59:41 PM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 BBB ran for 6 hours and just rebooted at 12:30pm so I now have it powered 
 through the USB port with a 5v1a power supply instead of through the main 
 power plug. If this reboots my last attempt will be to downgrade back to 
 3.8 and if it still reboots I'll have to send it back. It's an element14 
 purchased from an online vendor.

 On Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:04:52 AM UTC-4, Greg Kelley wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion, if I get reboots with 3.14.17 I'll try the usb 
 power and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 3.8 although I had USB hot 
 plug issues with that version.

 On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:49:16 AM UTC-4, lisarden wrote:

 power the board by USB, remove the wall adapter and test again. This 
 issue was described long ago but there was the kernel 3.2. The issue 
 disappeared with the 3.8





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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-04 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well it just ran for about 15 minutes and rebooted using USB power, so I'm
 going to reflash eMMC with original distro and try that then return if it
 reboots again. Will get a BBB from Adafruit although the vendor has offered
 to send another element14 replacement.

Greg, please give this image a shot.

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-09-03

It includes all the 3.8 kernel fixes since the May release came out..

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-03 Thread Michaël Vaes
When the SD card is inserted it automatically boots from there. Have a look if 
there is a file called 'eMMC-flasher.txt' in the root of your SD card it will 
start flashing on each reboot and reboots again.

If that doesn't solve it I would suggest overwrite the following commands with 
a bash script that logs the output of a PSTREE to a logfile.  
 - halt
 - shutdown
 - reboot

That will allow you to see what is triggering it.

Michaël

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-03 Thread Greg Kelley
I am booting straight from eMMC that I flashed, no uSD and no serial 
interface. I have disabled cups and weewx from starting and removed the 
external USB HUB and changed the power supply to another 5v 2a. I can tell 
it has rebooted by looking at syslog for ntpdate 'step time server' events. 
My syslog resets daily at 6am, so looking at syslog1 it rebooted 10 times 
in last 24hrs. This is not a shutdown or reboot it is a system reset. Since 
I have removed all external attachments and USB is idle, I have to assume 
it's either a board hardware issue or the 3.16 kernel as reboot times are 
random and I don't have anything in cron.hourly. In 3.16 leds have been 
renamed to heartbeat, mmc0, usr2, usr3. I have heartbeat turned off. PSTREE 
not installed and apparently not a .deb dist either.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 3:41:54 AM UTC-4, Michaël Vaes wrote:

 When the SD card is inserted it automatically boots from there. Have a 
 look if there is a file called 'eMMC-flasher.txt' in the root of your SD 
 card it will start flashing on each reboot and reboots again. 

 If that doesn't solve it I would suggest overwrite the following commands 
 with a bash script that logs the output of a PSTREE to a logfile.   
  - halt 
  - shutdown 
  - reboot 

 That will allow you to see what is triggering it. 

 Michaël

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-03 Thread Greg Kelley
I have downgraded the kernel from 3.16.0-bone2 to 3.15.10-bone8 and so far 
no reboots in the last 3 hours. If I get a full 24 hr cycle without 
reboots, I'll blame it on 3.16.0 and try to re-attach ext USB HUB, weather 
data logger, printer, and enable cups and weewx and see how far I get this 
time.


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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-03 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Greg Kelley suekkel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have downgraded the kernel from 3.16.0-bone2 to 3.15.10-bone8 and so far
 no reboots in the last 3 hours. If I get a full 24 hr cycle without reboots,
 I'll blame it on 3.16.0 and try to re-attach ext USB HUB, weather data
 logger, printer, and enable cups and weewx and see how far I get this time.

Thanks for the report, please let us know how v3.15.x react's too..
I'm currently chasing a few other issues with v3.16.x (acpi isn't
working)

btw, if you want something that's going to be a lot more
supported/tested down the road.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.17-ti-r15

We are preping for a big transition.
http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14

Regards,

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[beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-02 Thread Greg Kelley
Got my first BBB last week, installed latest Debian. USB Hot Plug was 
completely hosed in Kernel 3.8 so I upgraded to 3.16 (latest non-rc 
version). Currently running CUPS print services (including Airprint) and 
weewx. It appears that the BBB is rebooting three or four times between 
10pm and 1am, this has happened the last two days. I discovered it because 
weewx was going into an ftp loop because the system clock time was getting 
whacked (it is time/date sensitive to process weather data). Nothing in the 
log files unusual. Powered with a 5v 2a supply. Ethernet cable attached and 
external USB Hub (has external power but not used) with printer (turned 
off) and Weather Data Logger attached (has it's own power).

Before I start experimenting with removing USB Hub, plugging in just 
Weather Data Logger, etc. thought I'd check here first.


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[beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-02 Thread Michaël Vaes
Hi Greg - 

Are you booting from your SD Card or have it inserted?

Michaël

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black Rebooting Several Times Every Day

2014-09-02 Thread David Lambert
If you have a serial interface, I suggest turn on logging and post the 
results here.

On 09/02/2014 06:44 AM, Greg Kelley wrote:
Got my first BBB last week, installed latest Debian. USB Hot Plug was 
completely hosed in Kernel 3.8 so I upgraded to 3.16 (latest non-rc 
version). Currently running CUPS print services (including Airprint) 
and weewx. It appears that the BBB is rebooting three or four times 
between 10pm and 1am, this has happened the last two days. I 
discovered it because weewx was going into an ftp loop because the 
system clock time was getting whacked (it is time/date sensitive to 
process weather data). Nothing in the log files unusual. Powered with 
a 5v 2a supply. Ethernet cable attached and external USB Hub (has 
external power but not used) with printer (turned off) and Weather 
Data Logger attached (has it's own power).


Before I start experimenting with removing USB Hub, plugging in just 
Weather Data Logger, etc. thought I'd check here first.



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