RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Terry Bader

on a related note about SP6a...  if you're primary drive is on a scsi chain,
I wouldn't upgrade...  when we installed 6a, our scsi drivers were killed...
had to spend a day build the machine with a IDE drive and taking the scsi to
another machine to pull off all our data

thank god is was only our development server


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> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:18 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: WARNING: PCAnywhere
> 
> 
> A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 
> 10) on an NT4,
> sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it 
> impossible to boot
> the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
> production server without a ghosted system partition. We had 
> to rebuild from
> scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
> 
> When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me 
> that I was
> "hosed."
> 
> If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an 
> older version,
> upgrade with the greatest of risk.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Colman
> 
> 
>
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RE: Is CF still relevant?

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Brunt

Joseph, this is certainly not a Macromedia response but a Mike Brunt (a
lowly consultant) response.  I think your email was well stated and it has
generated some really healthy open debate.  We all need to place close
attention to the marketplace for my part I want whatever is best for the
good of the Internet, the Web and all it's users. I am here because I
honestly believe the Internet to be a major force in making the world a
better place.  

Thanks for sparking a great debate.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Macromedia Consulting
Tel 562.243.6255
Fax 401.696.4335
http://www.macromedia.com


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Is CF still relevant?


Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't

so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back

and reevalutate things periodically.

Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked 
with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP, 
JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an 
evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's 
strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't 
have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized 
editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are 
also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively 
small community; etc.

Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house" 
(besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF 
skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn 
ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their 
time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or 
another non-CF solution? Why or why not?

And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try 
something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages 
(Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating Systems

(Amiga) have resignedly done?

Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at, 
and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a 
novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is it

because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the best

solution for web application development in 2001?

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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

This happened to me too! With Version 9.2. After installing it, I could not 
boot my NT 4.0 sp6a server without a blue screen of death reporting a 
Inaccessible boot device if I recall correctly.

I had recently installed the same software on 3 of our other servers with 
the same configuration without any problems. Luckily the problems occurred 
on one of our dev servers. It was a pain to fix. It seemed to do damage to 
the master boot record.

What did symantec say was the problem?

Brook



At 04:17 PM 21/04/01 -0700, you wrote:
>A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
>sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
>the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
>production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild from
>scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
>
>When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
>"hosed."
>
>If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older version,
>upgrade with the greatest of risk.
>
>
>
>Rick Colman
>
>
>
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Dylan Bromby

almost every company i know that uses PCA has problems. i've used timbuktu
(tried PCA for a few months) for years and it is *great*.

-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere


This happened to me too! With Version 9.2. After installing it, I could not
boot my NT 4.0 sp6a server without a blue screen of death reporting a
Inaccessible boot device if I recall correctly.

I had recently installed the same software on 3 of our other servers with
the same configuration without any problems. Luckily the problems occurred
on one of our dev servers. It was a pain to fix. It seemed to do damage to
the master boot record.

What did symantec say was the problem?

Brook



At 04:17 PM 21/04/01 -0700, you wrote:
>A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
>sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
>the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
>production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild
from
>scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
>
>When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
>"hosed."
>
>If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older
version,
>upgrade with the greatest of risk.
>
>
>
>Rick Colman
>
>
>
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Richard Colman

They didn't.

Now using Terminal Server under windows 2000 and seems to be ok.

Rick.

-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere


This happened to me too! With Version 9.2. After installing it, I could not
boot my NT 4.0 sp6a server without a blue screen of death reporting a
Inaccessible boot device if I recall correctly.

I had recently installed the same software on 3 of our other servers with
the same configuration without any problems. Luckily the problems occurred
on one of our dev servers. It was a pain to fix. It seemed to do damage to
the master boot record.

What did symantec say was the problem?

Brook



At 04:17 PM 21/04/01 -0700, you wrote:
>A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
>sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
>the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
>production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild
from
>scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
>
>When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
>"hosed."
>
>If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older
version,
>upgrade with the greatest of risk.
>
>
>
>Rick Colman
>
>
>
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Erika L Walker

H...

I've used PCA for years, on Win 98, NT workstations, on NT 4.0/sp4-sp6
servers, and on Win2k (where it is not recommended) servers with no problems
whatsoever. I am up to PCA 9.2.

I use it almost everyday. It's my primary means of managing a couple of
co-located servers and keeping my grandparents computer up to snuff! 

Erika

"Friendship is never an accident. It is always the result of high
intentions, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution. It
represents the wise choice of many alternatives." - unknown

-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere


almost every company i know that uses PCA has problems. i've used timbuktu
(tried PCA for a few months) for years and it is *great*.

-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere


This happened to me too! With Version 9.2. After installing it, I could not
boot my NT 4.0 sp6a server without a blue screen of death reporting a
Inaccessible boot device if I recall correctly.

I had recently installed the same software on 3 of our other servers with
the same configuration without any problems. Luckily the problems occurred
on one of our dev servers. It was a pain to fix. It seemed to do damage to
the master boot record.

What did symantec say was the problem?

Brook



At 04:17 PM 21/04/01 -0700, you wrote:
>A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
>sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
>the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
>production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild
from
>scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
>
>When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
>"hosed."
>
>If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older
version,
>upgrade with the greatest of risk.
>
>
>
>Rick Colman
>
>
>
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Andrew Tyrone

I'm glad this came up.  I was about to purchase PC Anywhere (new version, whatever 
it's up to) for a client so I can manage her SQL and ColdFusion servers.  They're 
running Windows NT Servers, 4.0 SP5.  We currently have a VPN setup, which works 
great, except I need to be able to manage the servers.  Any ideas on other programs?

Thanks,

Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere
> 
> 
> They didn't.
> 
> Now using Terminal Server under windows 2000 and seems to be ok.
> 
> Rick.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere
> 
> 
> This happened to me too! With Version 9.2. After installing it, I 
> could not
> boot my NT 4.0 sp6a server without a blue screen of death reporting a
> Inaccessible boot device if I recall correctly.
> 
> I had recently installed the same software on 3 of our other servers with
> the same configuration without any problems. Luckily the problems occurred
> on one of our dev servers. It was a pain to fix. It seemed to do damage to
> the master boot record.
> 
> What did symantec say was the problem?
> 
> Brook
> 
> 
> 
> At 04:17 PM 21/04/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) 
> on an NT4,
> >sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it 
> impossible to boot
> >the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
> >production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild
> from
> >scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
> >
> >When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
> >"hosed."
> >
> >If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older
> version,
> >upgrade with the greatest of risk.
> >
> >
> >
> >Rick Colman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread John McKown

Try using VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/).  It is a java-based
program that was written by AT&T that basically does what PCA does, but
it is FREE, FREE, FREE!  Seems to work pretty well.   You can even to a
remote reboot with it.   We have been playing around with it after seeing
a co-location client of ours using it.  It is VERY slick.  You may want
to do some research on BugTraq to make sure it is safe, but I really like
it.


John McKown, Owner
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200
Dover, DE 19901
phone: 302-736-5515
toll free: 888-432-7965
fax: 302-736-5945
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: WARNING: PCAnywhere


A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild from
scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.

When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
"hosed."

If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older version,
upgrade with the greatest of risk.



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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread John Lucas

I'll second the use of VNC.  We utilize terminal server with our Win2K
servers, but we run VNC as a backup.  The reason is that it allows us to
remote access the servers through any Internet Browser (i.e. the win98
Laptop while on vacation).  It also allows us to access the servers in the
event that terminal services locks up.  For example, a while back we had a
corrupt datasource that caused a large memory leak.  We could not remote the
server via Terminal Services, but we were able to access it via VNC.  It has
both a desktop and a web interface and runs pretty smooth.


John Lucas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere


> Try using VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/).  It is a java-based
> program that was written by AT&T that basically does what PCA does, but
> it is FREE, FREE, FREE!  Seems to work pretty well.   You can even to a
> remote reboot with it.   We have been playing around with it after seeing
> a co-location client of ours using it.  It is VERY slick.  You may want
> to do some research on BugTraq to make sure it is safe, but I really like
> it.
>
>
> John McKown, Owner
> Delaware.Net, Inc.
> 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200
> Dover, DE 19901
> phone: 302-736-5515
> toll free: 888-432-7965
> fax: 302-736-5945
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:18 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: WARNING: PCAnywhere
>
>
> A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
> sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
> the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
> production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild
from
> scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
>
> When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
> "hosed."
>
> If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older
version,
> upgrade with the greatest of risk.
>
>
>
> Rick Colman
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Andrew Tyrone

This looks great.  Thanks for the link and the info.  I just downloaded it and will 
play with it asap (on the development server, of course!)

Have a good weekend everyone!

Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: John Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere
> 
> 
> I'll second the use of VNC.  We utilize terminal server with our Win2K
> servers, but we run VNC as a backup.  The reason is that it allows us to
> remote access the servers through any Internet Browser (i.e. the win98
> Laptop while on vacation).  It also allows us to access the servers in the
> event that terminal services locks up.  For example, a while back we had a
> corrupt datasource that caused a large memory leak.  We could not 
> remote the
> server via Terminal Services, but we were able to access it via 
> VNC.  It has
> both a desktop and a web interface and runs pretty smooth.
> 
> 
> John Lucas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:29 PM
> Subject: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere
> 
> 
> > Try using VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/).  It is a java-based
> > program that was written by AT&T that basically does what PCA does, but
> > it is FREE, FREE, FREE!  Seems to work pretty well.   You can even to a
> > remote reboot with it.   We have been playing around with it 
> after seeing
> > a co-location client of ours using it.  It is VERY slick.  You may want
> > to do some research on BugTraq to make sure it is safe, but I 
> really like
> > it.
> >
> >
> > John McKown, Owner
> > Delaware.Net, Inc.
> > 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200
> > Dover, DE 19901
> > phone: 302-736-5515
> > toll free: 888-432-7965
> > fax: 302-736-5945
> > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:18 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: WARNING: PCAnywhere
> >
> >
> > A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) 
> on an NT4,
> > sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it 
> impossible to boot
> > the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
> > production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild
> from
> > scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
> >
> > When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
> > "hosed."
> >
> > If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older
> version,
> > upgrade with the greatest of risk.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Colman
> >
> 
>
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RE: Is CF still relevant?

2001-04-22 Thread John McKown

Joseph,

Great questions.  If you asked me 6 months ago, I would answer you by saying
that the reason I use CF primarily is because it is a great RAD tool.
Today, I am thinking about how cool it will be to leverage my CF experience
once CF is tied to Flash better (better than Harpoon).  The thought of this
alone gets my heart racing.A couple of years ago, M$ introduced their
"Agent" ActiveX component that allowed you to have a little character (like
those annoying M$ Office Assistants) that you could script to make talk.  I
thought that this was pretty neat, but it required a slow download, and the
performance was hideous.  Also, you were stuck with the characters that M$
developed. With Flash working better with CF, you could create some
compelling agents, IM programs, distance learning tools, training programs,
and more.   There is probably a lot of potential here that we have not even
thought of yet.   So the Flash potential and also UltraDev's *potential*
have me excited.   Those are my hopes for CF.

My fears are:

 - How well will CF be integrated with UltraDev?
 - How well will CF be integrated with Flash? And I don't mean little
Harpoon calendars.
 - Will MM fix/improve the advanced security features of CF? The "Users -->
Groups --> Policies" security model is cludgy.
 - Will MM or Version 5.0 improve/automate remote file management?  By this
I mean that I would like for CF to allow me to manage files on the server
much like FrontPage extensions do.  You rename a file, and all of the links
to the file get renamed.  FP is a newbie tool, but this is a HUGE time saver
when you have a really big site to manage.
 - Will MM lower the cost of the server?  The pro version should cost
$599.00.
 - How will the real world performance be with the Java-based "NEO" (CF
version 6.0).  I know they say it is faster, but I am just worried.
 - How soon will 5.0 be out?   User defined functions and querying a query
will be awesome.   The User defined functions alone will add tremendously to
the CF community once you can download custom functions (loan calculators,
etc.).

Just my 2 cents.

John McKown, Owner
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200
Dover, DE 19901
phone: 302-736-5515
toll free: 888-432-7965
fax: 302-736-5945
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




-Original Message-
From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Is CF still relevant?


Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't

so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back

and reevalutate things periodically.

Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked
with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP,
JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an
evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's
strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't
have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized
editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are
also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively
small community; etc.

Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house"
(besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF
skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn
ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their
time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or
another non-CF solution? Why or why not?

And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try
something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages
(Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating Systems

(Amiga) have resignedly done?

Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at,
and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a
novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is it

because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the best

solution for web application development in 2001?

Joe
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Re: Is CF still relevant?

2001-04-22 Thread Bonnie Betts

Can someone point me to any online articles about NEO?

Bonnie E. Betts
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- Original Message -
From: "John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: Is CF still relevant?


> Joseph,
>
> Great questions.  If you asked me 6 months ago, I would answer you by
saying
> that the reason I use CF primarily is because it is a great RAD tool.
> Today, I am thinking about how cool it will be to leverage my CF
experience
> once CF is tied to Flash better (better than Harpoon).  The thought of
this
> alone gets my heart racing.A couple of years ago, M$ introduced their
> "Agent" ActiveX component that allowed you to have a little character
(like
> those annoying M$ Office Assistants) that you could script to make talk.
I
> thought that this was pretty neat, but it required a slow download, and
the
> performance was hideous.  Also, you were stuck with the characters that M$
> developed. With Flash working better with CF, you could create some
> compelling agents, IM programs, distance learning tools, training
programs,
> and more.   There is probably a lot of potential here that we have not
even
> thought of yet.   So the Flash potential and also UltraDev's *potential*
> have me excited.   Those are my hopes for CF.
>
> My fears are:
>
>  - How well will CF be integrated with UltraDev?
>  - How well will CF be integrated with Flash? And I don't mean little
> Harpoon calendars.
>  - Will MM fix/improve the advanced security features of CF? The
"Users -->
> Groups --> Policies" security model is cludgy.
>  - Will MM or Version 5.0 improve/automate remote file management?  By
this
> I mean that I would like for CF to allow me to manage files on the server
> much like FrontPage extensions do.  You rename a file, and all of the
links
> to the file get renamed.  FP is a newbie tool, but this is a HUGE time
saver
> when you have a really big site to manage.
>  - Will MM lower the cost of the server?  The pro version should cost
> $599.00.
>  - How will the real world performance be with the Java-based "NEO" (CF
> version 6.0).  I know they say it is faster, but I am just worried.
>  - How soon will 5.0 be out?   User defined functions and querying a query
> will be awesome.   The User defined functions alone will add tremendously
to
> the CF community once you can download custom functions (loan calculators,
> etc.).
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> John McKown, Owner
> Delaware.Net, Inc.
> 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200
> Dover, DE 19901
> phone: 302-736-5515
> toll free: 888-432-7965
> fax: 302-736-5945
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Is CF still relevant?
>
>
> Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This
isn't
>
> so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step
back
>
> and reevalutate things periodically.
>
> Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked
> with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP,
> JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an
> evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of
CF's
> strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't
> have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized
> editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are
> also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively
> small community; etc.
>
> Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house"
> (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF
> skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn
> ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their
> time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or
> another non-CF solution? Why or why not?
>
> And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try
> something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages
> (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating
Systems
>
> (Amiga) have resignedly done?
>
> Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at,
> and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a
> novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is
it
>
> because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the
best
>
> solution for web application development in 2001?
>
> Joe
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread ron

> I'll second the use of VNC.

I'll third it. :) We've been using VNC exclusively for over 2 years, with
nothing but success, on NT and Win2K machines. Copying and pasting between
client and server is much more convenient than with PCA, since the
clipboard is automatically transferred, and the speed has always been as
fast or faster than PCA. Remote reboots are always reliable, unless
there's a hardware problem (we use a remote power cycler for that). The
new version of VNC allows you to scale the screen, so you can display 4 or
more full-size server desktops on one screen (handy if you're addicted to
watching the task manager graphs). Final hint: make shortcuts with your
VNC connections (there's an option to save your password), put 'em in your
Start menu, and you can launch windows with your servers' desktops in
about 2 seconds.

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President/CTO
Humankind Systems, Inc.
http://humankindsystems.com
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Bud

On a side note. I found this by an e-mail on the WIN-NT list.

http://www.famatech.com/

It's called RAdmin. Costs 35.00 per license. It is at least 5 times 
as fast on screen redraws on NT. Even when the traffic on the server 
is heavy it's almost as fast as sitting at the server itself. It has 
a better file transfer mode than pcA, you can reboot the host without 
logging in and it has Telnet mode. I've stayed connected all day 
since I installed it. pcA always drops me when the traffic on the 
server gets heavy and I have to use the cfx_servicecontrol tag to 
restart it. All in all I'm tickled pink that I found it. I just wish 
I would have found it before I purchased pcA.
-- 

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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread zac

Dylan Bromby wrote:

> almost every company i know that uses PCA has problems. i've used timbuktu
> (tried PCA for a few months) for years and it is *great*.

I use VNC which has the added benefit of being cross platform (running your
NT server on your PowerBook is very cool) and free.


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WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Richard Colman

A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild from
scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.

When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
"hosed."

If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older version,
upgrade with the greatest of risk.



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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread zac

John McKown wrote:

> Try using VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/).  It is a java-based
> program that was written by AT&T that basically does what PCA does, but
> it is FREE, FREE, FREE!

I believe that there are native clients but that it also has a java client
available.


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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Paul Smith

So how would it work if I downloaded it to my remote server I manage with VNC?

Does RAdmin require a boot after install?  If so, I'm not sure I could 
trust it to come up.

best,  paul


At 09:13 PM 4/21/01 -0400, you wrote:
>On a side note. I found this by an e-mail on the WIN-NT list.
>
>http://www.famatech.com/
>
>It's called RAdmin. Costs 35.00 per license. It is at least 5 times
>as fast on screen redraws on NT. Even when the traffic on the server
>is heavy it's almost as fast as sitting at the server itself. It has
>a better file transfer mode than pcA, you can reboot the host without
>logging in and it has Telnet mode. I've stayed connected all day
>since I installed it. pcA always drops me when the traffic on the
>server gets heavy and I have to use the cfx_servicecontrol tag to
>restart it. All in all I'm tickled pink that I found it. I just wish
>I would have found it before I purchased pcA.
>--
>
>Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
>
>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.twcreations.com/
>954.721.3452
>
>
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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

Do you use a VPN or other means of encryption with VNC?

At 08:12 PM 21/04/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > I'll second the use of VNC.
>
>I'll third it. :) We've been using VNC exclusively for over 2 years, with
>nothing but success, on NT and Win2K machines. Copying and pasting between
>client and server is much more convenient than with PCA, since the
>clipboard is automatically transferred, and the speed has always been as
>fast or faster than PCA. Remote reboots are always reliable, unless
>there's a hardware problem (we use a remote power cycler for that). The
>new version of VNC allows you to scale the screen, so you can display 4 or
>more full-size server desktops on one screen (handy if you're addicted to
>watching the task manager graphs). Final hint: make shortcuts with your
>VNC connections (there's an option to save your password), put 'em in your
>Start menu, and you can launch windows with your servers' desktops in
>about 2 seconds.
>
>Ron Allen Hornbaker
>President/CTO
>Humankind Systems, Inc.
>http://humankindsystems.com
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>..¸_¸.·´¯) http://www.BookCrossing.com ~ Read and Release! (¯`·.¸_¸.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Kym Kovan

Hi Zac,

> > almost every company i know that uses PCA has problems. i've used timbuktu
> > (tried PCA for a few months) for years and it is *great*.
>
>I use VNC which has the added benefit of being cross platform (running your
>NT server on your PowerBook is very cool) and free.

Timbuktu is cross platform as well, in fact that is where Timbuktu came 
from, an engine to allow Macs to drive each other and then they brought in 
Win boxen later.

We have been using Timbuktu here for a couple of years, no hassles 
whatsoever but we did have problems with VNC, admittedly an earlier 
version, partly stability but also that fact that you could not turn off 
backgrounds made it slow and upped the network traffic a _lot_

We also have a couple of clients that insist on having PCA on their co-lo 
boxes, and it is not unusual for one to ring and ask us to restart things :-)

--

Yours,

Kym


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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Peter Tilbrook

Microsoft Netmeeting 3.x allows remote access to machines securely. Works
well and is free.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2001 10:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere


I'm glad this came up.  I was about to purchase PC Anywhere (new version,
whatever it's up to) for a client so I can manage her SQL and ColdFusion
servers.  They're running Windows NT Servers, 4.0 SP5.  We currently have a
VPN setup, which works great, except I need to be able to manage the
servers.  Any ideas on other programs?



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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Eric Dawson

i use VNC. does the job plenty well.

From: "John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:29:53 -0400

Try using VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/).  It is a java-based
program that was written by AT&T that basically does what PCA does, but
it is FREE, FREE, FREE!  Seems to work pretty well.   You can even to a
remote reboot with it.   We have been playing around with it after seeing
a co-location client of ours using it.  It is VERY slick.  You may want
to do some research on BugTraq to make sure it is safe, but I really like
it.


John McKown, Owner
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200
Dover, DE 19901
phone: 302-736-5515
toll free: 888-432-7965
fax: 302-736-5945
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: WARNING: PCAnywhere


A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild from
scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.

When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
"hosed."

If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older version,
upgrade with the greatest of risk.



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RE: SQL Server ODBC Errors

2001-04-22 Thread David Shadovitz

Bud,

I'm replying off-list, since I lost track of whether you got any response.  I'm 
slow at getting through all of my CF-related email.

Here's the MSDN page listing SQL Server 2000 ODBC error messages:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?URL=/library/psdk/sql/tr_err_o  
dbc_5stz.htm

If you follow the left-hand-side table of contents back up from this page, 
you'll see that it falls within the Troubleshooting section, where you may be 
able to find more help.

Dunno if I'm telling you anything you don't already know

-David

On Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:58 AM, Bud [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
> Howdy. Anyone have a resource for defining SQL Server ODBC errors,
> what they mean and how to fix them? I'm getting occasional errors
> that I don't know what they are. Not enough to be concerned, maybe 3
> or 4 a day out of a couple thousand hits, but stuff like:
>
> Invalid Cursor State
> ConnectionWrite (send())
>
> Like I found the Invalid Cursor State on MS website, but it says it's
> been fixed in MDAC 2.6, but that's what is installed with SQL2000 and
> I've gotten the error anyway.

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FW: SQL Server ODBC Errors

2001-04-22 Thread David Shadovitz

Make that "on-list".  Fingers, don't fail me now!
-David

-Original Message-
From:   David Shadovitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, April 21, 2001 11:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: SQL Server ODBC Errors

Bud,

I'm replying off-list, since I lost track of whether you got any response.  I'm 
slow at getting through all of my CF-related email.

Here's the MSDN page listing SQL Server 2000 ODBC error messages:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?URL=/library/psdk/sql/tr_err_o  
dbc_5stz.htm

If you follow the left-hand-side table of contents back up from this page, 
you'll see that it falls within the Troubleshooting section, where you may be 
able to find more help.

Dunno if I'm telling you anything you don't already know

-David

On Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:58 AM, Bud [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
> Howdy. Anyone have a resource for defining SQL Server ODBC errors,
> what they mean and how to fix them? I'm getting occasional errors
> that I don't know what they are. Not enough to be concerned, maybe 3
> or 4 a day out of a couple thousand hits, but stuff like:
>
> Invalid Cursor State
> ConnectionWrite (send())
>
> Like I found the Invalid Cursor State on MS website, but it says it's
> been fixed in MDAC 2.6, but that's what is installed with SQL2000 and
> I've gotten the error anyway.

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RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Bud

On 4/21/01, Paul Smith penned:
>So how would it work if I downloaded it to my remote server I manage with VNC?
>
>Does RAdmin require a boot after install?  If so, I'm not sure I could
>trust it to come up.

Yes, it does require a reboot. I downloaded it to my computer at 
home, uploaded it to the server and installed it with pcA then 
uninstalled pcA after a couple days.
-- 

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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
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OT: Was AW: WARNING: PCAnywhere -> PCAnywhere functions on a linux box ?

2001-04-22 Thread cf-talk

o.k.
Beside the discussion of PCA on WIN-Plattform, what can I use
to get graphical interface to a linux box ? (I have a KDE running on the
linux box)
I tried VNC but it only gives me a view on the linux command shell.
Ideas ?

Uwe


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. April 2001 10:25
An: CF-Talk
Betreff: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere


On 4/21/01, Paul Smith penned:
>So how would it work if I downloaded it to my remote server I manage with
VNC?
>
>Does RAdmin require a boot after install?  If so, I'm not sure I could
>trust it to come up.

Yes, it does require a reboot. I downloaded it to my computer at
home, uploaded it to the server and installed it with pcA then
uninstalled pcA after a couple days.
--

Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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AW: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread cf-talk

Michael, I did that for years without a problem.
Although if you have heavy traffic or/and less memory I wouldn't do it.

Uwe


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. April 2001 11:40
An: CF-Talk
Betreff: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?


Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
and IIS on the same NT machine.
"Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.

What do you think? Money is always an issue...

Thanks,

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Updating 1000s of records

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

Our application is built like that so I'm reciving a daily .txt file with 1000s of 
lines. each line
with a unique number that is userID. userID that is on this text file means he visited 
our site
in the last 24 hours (complex, I know.. bear with me)

I'm trying to find the best way to update 1000s rows of SQL 7 DB Table: USERS.
with this information so that Colum LASTVISITEDDATE will have now() value for each
person that was on that list.

Any brighter ideas then 

loop list
UPDATE  WHERE userID='x
end loop

OR

UPDATE WHERE userID='x' OR userID='y' OR userID='n...'


Thanks,

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Interactive Music Ltd.
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Re: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Mark Woods

one of the sites I'm involved in serves about 8 million pages a month, well 
over half of them requiring a database connection (most of these will have 
more than one query) and the site runs on a dual processor pentium III with 
win2000 and SQL Server 7 - no problems. Just make sure you spend a lot of 
time optimizing the server for performance and most importantly, stick a 
load of RAM into it, at least 1 GB.

Nobody would recommend a single server config for a high traffic web site 
if the company had money to burn, but who has these days?


Mark


At 10:40 AM 22/04/2001, you wrote:
>Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
>and IIS on the same NT machine.
>"Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.
>
>What do you think? Money is always an issue...
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Michael.
>
>
>
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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Jim McAtee

What kind of security/encryption does Timbuktu offer?  At least I know
pcAnywhere has some decent encryption that can be required on all sessions.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Kym Kovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere


> Hi Zac,
>
> > > almost every company i know that uses PCA has problems. i've used
timbuktu
> > > (tried PCA for a few months) for years and it is *great*.
> >
> >I use VNC which has the added benefit of being cross platform (running
your
> >NT server on your PowerBook is very cool) and free.
>
> Timbuktu is cross platform as well, in fact that is where Timbuktu came
> from, an engine to allow Macs to drive each other and then they brought in
> Win boxen later.
>
> We have been using Timbuktu here for a couple of years, no hassles
> whatsoever but we did have problems with VNC, admittedly an earlier
> version, partly stability but also that fact that you could not turn off
> backgrounds made it slow and upped the network traffic a _lot_
>
> We also have a couple of clients that insist on having PCA on their co-lo
> boxes, and it is not unusual for one to ring and ask us to restart things
:-)
>
> --
>
> Yours,
>
> Kym


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OLEDB/ODBC

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

I'm in a process of updating ALL of our coldfusion tags anyhow,
so I would like to know if it's recommened to move into OLEDB.

I'm using SQL 7 on NT 5, 512KB RAM

Is there something I need to consider?
Any tags/functions change? (Other then CreateODBCTime?)

Any pointers would be great...

Thanks,

-Michael


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Re: syntax for cli execution of a cfm page?

2001-04-22 Thread Mark Woods

At 08:32 PM 18/04/2001, you wrote:
>Thanks for the info guys. In case anyone was wondering:
>
>cfml.exe c:\path\template.cfm
>
>does actually work. ;p

cool, anyone know if this is new to cf 4.5? I don't know if I ever actually 
tried just running cfml.exe with the path as a parameter before, I'm gonna 
be kicking myself if this functionality has always been available.


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SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
and IIS on the same NT machine.
"Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.

What do you think? Money is always an issue...

Thanks,

-Michael.


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Re: Updating 1000s of records

2001-04-22 Thread Brian Thornton

Access or SQL?
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:17 AM
Subject: Updating 1000s of records


> Our application is built like that so I'm reciving a daily .txt file with
1000s of lines. each line
> with a unique number that is userID. userID that is on this text file
means he visited our site
> in the last 24 hours (complex, I know.. bear with me)
>
> I'm trying to find the best way to update 1000s rows of SQL 7 DB Table:
USERS.
> with this information so that Colum LASTVISITEDDATE will have now() value
for each
> person that was on that list.
>
> Any brighter ideas then
>
> loop list
> UPDATE  WHERE userID='x
> end loop
>
> OR
>
> UPDATE WHERE userID='x' OR userID='y' OR userID='n...'
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Lugassy
> Interactive Music Ltd.
>
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Re: Updating 1000s of records

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

SQL 7

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Updating 1000s of records


> Access or SQL?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:17 AM
> Subject: Updating 1000s of records
>
>
> > Our application is built like that so I'm reciving a daily .txt file
with
> 1000s of lines. each line
> > with a unique number that is userID. userID that is on this text file
> means he visited our site
> > in the last 24 hours (complex, I know.. bear with me)
> >
> > I'm trying to find the best way to update 1000s rows of SQL 7 DB Table:
> USERS.
> > with this information so that Colum LASTVISITEDDATE will have now()
value
> for each
> > person that was on that list.
> >
> > Any brighter ideas then
> >
> > loop list
> > UPDATE  WHERE userID='x
> > end loop
> >
> > OR
> >
> > UPDATE WHERE userID='x' OR userID='y' OR userID='n...'
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael Lugassy
> > Interactive Music Ltd.
> >
>
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Re: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Adrian Cooper


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:40 AM


> Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
> and IIS on the same NT machine.
> "Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.

I seperate IIS and SQL Server 2000 as a matter of course, but I am not at all
convinced you need to on a machine of the right specification - notably 1Gb+ RAM
and a couple of fast CPU's.

Even redundancy isn't a reason to run two seperate servers, because if either of
the servers and/or the ODBC/OLEDB connection across the network goes down, the
entire site is down anyway.

I would be interested in more views on this issue.

Adrian Cooper.



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Re: Updating 1000s of records

2001-04-22 Thread Mark Woods

you could add a SQL server scheduled task to bulk insert (see BULK INSERT 
command in SQL server docs) into a temporary table from your text file and 
then use the data in the temp table to update the user info. Just moves the 
processing from CF onto SQL server, which will definitely improve performance.

Even if you run both the BULK INSERT and UPDATE commands from a CF 
template, it'll still improve your performance considerably (only two 
database connections and queries now).


Mark


At 12:10 PM 22/04/2001, you wrote:
>SQL 7
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Brian Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: Updating 1000s of records
>
>
> > Access or SQL?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:17 AM
> > Subject: Updating 1000s of records
> >
> >
> > > Our application is built like that so I'm reciving a daily .txt file
>with
> > 1000s of lines. each line
> > > with a unique number that is userID. userID that is on this text file
> > means he visited our site
> > > in the last 24 hours (complex, I know.. bear with me)
> > >
> > > I'm trying to find the best way to update 1000s rows of SQL 7 DB Table:
> > USERS.
> > > with this information so that Colum LASTVISITEDDATE will have now()
>value
> > for each
> > > person that was on that list.
> > >
> > > Any brighter ideas then
> > >
> > > loop list
> > > UPDATE  WHERE userID='x
> > > end loop
> > >
> > > OR
> > >
> > > UPDATE WHERE userID='x' OR userID='y' OR userID='n...'
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Michael Lugassy
> > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > >
> >
>
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RE: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

Hi Michael,

We have been using IIS 5.0 & SQL 7.0 on the same machine for about a year.
No real problems, but now our traffic levels are much higher we have had to
upgrade the memory to 1GB. We will be looking into moving the SQL to it's
own server soon. For lower traffic sites I do not see a problem, however be
aware that CPU usage is much higher on server with this configuration.


HTH


Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 10:40
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?
>
>
> Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
> and IIS on the same NT machine.
> "Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.
>
> What do you think? Money is always an issue...
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Michael.
>
>
>
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RE: Updating 1000s of records

2001-04-22 Thread Peter Tilbrook

Isn't this information already stored under CGLOBALS as a client variable?


-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2001 20:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Updating 1000s of records


Our application is built like that so I'm reciving a daily .txt file with
1000s of lines. each line
with a unique number that is userID. userID that is on this text file means
he visited our site
in the last 24 hours (complex, I know.. bear with me)

I'm trying to find the best way to update 1000s rows of SQL 7 DB Table:
USERS.
with this information so that Colum LASTVISITEDDATE will have now() value
for each
person that was on that list.

Any brighter ideas then

.loop list
UPDATE  WHERE userID='x
end loop

OR

UPDATE WHERE userID='x' OR userID='y' OR userID='n...'


Thanks,

Michael Lugassy
Interactive Music Ltd.
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Re: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

And you use CF to call database all the time?
I've heard that it's possible to have CF connected to the database in a
single, stable
connection and to avoid the re-connection all the time.

will this helps to increase performance, when the database is rapidly
accessed?

Michael.

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?


> one of the sites I'm involved in serves about 8 million pages a month,
well
> over half of them requiring a database connection (most of these will have
> more than one query) and the site runs on a dual processor pentium III
with
> win2000 and SQL Server 7 - no problems. Just make sure you spend a lot of
> time optimizing the server for performance and most importantly, stick a
> load of RAM into it, at least 1 GB.
>
> Nobody would recommend a single server config for a high traffic web site
> if the company had money to burn, but who has these days?
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> At 10:40 AM 22/04/2001, you wrote:
> >Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
> >and IIS on the same NT machine.
> >"Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.
> >
> >What do you think? Money is always an issue...
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Michael.
> >
> >
> >
>
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UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)

Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find out if the VALUE exists.

There must be a better way...

Michael.





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Re: Updating 1000s of records

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

Didn't quite understand what you mean.
The .txt file was created by an external COM object on a remote server.
I got the file to calculate stats on a diffrent machine too.


- Original Message -
From: "Peter Tilbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: Updating 1000s of records


> Isn't this information already stored under CGLOBALS as a client variable?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2001 20:18
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Updating 1000s of records
>
>
> Our application is built like that so I'm reciving a daily .txt file with
> 1000s of lines. each line
> with a unique number that is userID. userID that is on this text file
means
> he visited our site
> in the last 24 hours (complex, I know.. bear with me)
>
> I'm trying to find the best way to update 1000s rows of SQL 7 DB Table:
> USERS.
> with this information so that Colum LASTVISITEDDATE will have now() value
> for each
> person that was on that list.
>
> Any brighter ideas then
>
> .loop list
> UPDATE  WHERE userID='x
> end loop
>
> OR
>
> UPDATE WHERE userID='x' OR userID='y' OR userID='n...'
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Lugassy
> Interactive Music Ltd.
>
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RE: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

Micheal,

Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you simply want to check what
that value is before updating, you could always do an update irrespective of
the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update sometimes, but
isn't that better than making two connections (select & update) if the
update is required. Only a thought.


Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the column is
> specified update?
>
> If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE, if fails do
> INSERT.
>
> If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better
> off setting
> the columns default value to zero, this way you will always be able to
> increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
>
> HTH
>
> Phil.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> >
> > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find out if the
> > VALUE exists.
> >
> > There must be a better way...
> >
> > Michael.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use INSERT to assign
default values.
I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
"READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.


- Original Message -
From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT


> Micheal,
>
> Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you simply want to check
what
> that value is before updating, you could always do an update irrespective
of
> the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update sometimes,
but
> isn't that better than making two connections (select & update) if the
> update is required. Only a thought.
>
>
> Phil.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the column
is
> > specified update?
> >
> > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE, if fails do
> > INSERT.
> >
> > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better
> > off setting
> > the columns default value to zero, this way you will always be able to
> > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> > >
> > > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find out if the
> > > VALUE exists.
> > >
> > > There must be a better way...
> > >
> > > Michael.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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RE: Was AW: WARNING: PCAnywhere -> PCAnywhere functions on a linux box ?

2001-04-22 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey

I've set up VNC on a headless box to get XWindows access... you need to make
sure you have your server set up and running correctly.  I haven't played
with it since I got my switchbox working, so that's about the best help I
can provide.  If memory serves correctly I had to set up the server to
create an instance of xWindows.  KDE didn't come up directly.

Something else *NIX fans might look into is remote xWindows servers.  These
are programs that access a box directly and connect as an extra terminal.
The "servers" (I can't remember why that is the correct syntax, but it
confused me too) aren't free, but I know from first hand experience that
they can be made to work.  You can even set it up so that you log in
directly through KDE.

HTH
Hatton Humphrey

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Was AW: WARNING: PCAnywhere -> PCAnywhere functions on a
linux box ?


o.k.
Beside the discussion of PCA on WIN-Plattform, what can I use
to get graphical interface to a linux box ? (I have a KDE running on the
linux box)
I tried VNC but it only gives me a view on the linux command shell.
Ideas ?

Uwe


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. April 2001 10:25
An: CF-Talk
Betreff: RE: WARNING: PCAnywhere


On 4/21/01, Paul Smith penned:
>So how would it work if I downloaded it to my remote server I manage with
VNC?
>
>Does RAdmin require a boot after install?  If so, I'm not sure I could
>trust it to come up.

Yes, it does require a reboot. I downloaded it to my computer at
home, uploaded it to the server and installed it with pcA then
uninstalled pcA after a couple days.
--

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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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Re: WARNING: PCAnywhere

2001-04-22 Thread Tony Schreiber

I had a problem like this once on NT4 and switched to Remotely Anywhere
(http://www.remotelyanyhwere.com/). Haven't looked back.

On Win2k you can use Terminal Services (in Remote Administration mode) and
the Termincal Services Client - works great.

> A failed installation (attempting to upgrade ver. 8 to ver. 10) on an NT4,
> sp6 server literally destroyed the server OS, making it impossible to boot
> the OS without a "blue screen." This just happened to be an important
> production server without a ghosted system partition. We had to rebuild from
> scratch on another box. Almost lost a Very Important Client or two.
> 
> When I contacted Symantec, they charged me $29.95 to tell me that I was
> "hosed."
> 
> If you are not using PCAnywhere, do not start. If you have an older version,
> upgrade with the greatest of risk.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Colman
> 
> 
>
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RE: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value 0 assigned by
default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other dbs. When a record is
created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by default. So,
if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if you have not
previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?


Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use INSERT
> to assign
> default values.
> I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> > Micheal,
> >
> > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you simply want to check
> what
> > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> irrespective
> of
> > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update sometimes,
> but
> > isn't that better than making two connections (select & update) if the
> > update is required. Only a thought.
> >
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the column
> is
> > > specified update?
> > >
> > > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE,
> if fails do
> > > INSERT.
> > >
> > > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better
> > > off setting
> > > the columns default value to zero, this way you will always be able to
> > > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > > > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> > > >
> > > > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find out if the
> > > > VALUE exists.
> > > >
> > > > There must be a better way...
> > > >
> > > > Michael.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

It'll only work if I have all the possible values already placed in COLUM1.

- Original Message -
From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT


> You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value 0 assigned by
> default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other dbs. When a record
is
> created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by default.
So,
> if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if you have not
> previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?
>
>
> Phil.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use INSERT
> > to assign
> > default values.
> > I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> > "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > > Micheal,
> > >
> > > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you simply want to
check
> > what
> > > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> > irrespective
> > of
> > > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update
sometimes,
> > but
> > > isn't that better than making two connections (select & update) if the
> > > update is required. Only a thought.
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the
column
> > is
> > > > specified update?
> > > >
> > > > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE,
> > if fails do
> > > > INSERT.
> > > >
> > > > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better
> > > > off setting
> > > > the columns default value to zero, this way you will always be able
to
> > > > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > > Phil.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > > > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > > > > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find out if the
> > > > > VALUE exists.
> > > > >
> > > > > There must be a better way...
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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RE: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the column is
specified update?

If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE, if fails do
INSERT.

If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better off setting
the columns default value to zero, this way you will always be able to
increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.

HTH

Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
>
> Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find out if the
> VALUE exists.
>
> There must be a better way...
>
> Michael.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

Please post your current SELECT/UPDATE code so I can see exactly what you
are doing.


Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 15:30
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> It'll only work if I have all the possible values already placed
> in COLUM1.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:34 PM
> Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> > You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value 0 assigned by
> > default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other dbs. When a record
> is
> > created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by default.
> So,
> > if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if
> you have not
> > previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?
> >
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use INSERT
> > > to assign
> > > default values.
> > > I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> > > "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > > Micheal,
> > > >
> > > > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you simply want to
> check
> > > what
> > > > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> > > irrespective
> > > of
> > > > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update
> sometimes,
> > > but
> > > > isn't that better than making two connections (select &
> update) if the
> > > > update is required. Only a thought.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the
> column
> > > is
> > > > > specified update?
> > > > >
> > > > > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE,
> > > if fails do
> > > > > INSERT.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better
> > > > > off setting
> > > > > the columns default value to zero, this way you will
> always be able
> to
> > > > > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > > > > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > > > > > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find
> out if the
> > > > > > VALUE exists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There must be a better way...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

something like this.

Thanks!


 SELECT DN from logs WHERE DT=#DT#




 UPDATE logs
 SET DN=DN+#DN# WHERE DT=#DT#




 INSERT INTO logs (DN,DT) VALUES (#DN#,#DT#)




- Original Message -
From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT


> Please post your current SELECT/UPDATE code so I can see exactly what you
> are doing.
>
>
> Phil.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 22 April 2001 15:30
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > It'll only work if I have all the possible values already placed
> > in COLUM1.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > > You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value 0 assigned by
> > > default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other dbs. When a
record
> > is
> > > created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by
default.
> > So,
> > > if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if
> > you have not
> > > previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use INSERT
> > > > to assign
> > > > default values.
> > > > I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> > > > "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Micheal,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you simply want to
> > check
> > > > what
> > > > > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> > > > irrespective
> > > > of
> > > > > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update
> > sometimes,
> > > > but
> > > > > isn't that better than making two connections (select &
> > update) if the
> > > > > update is required. Only a thought.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the value in the
> > column
> > > > is
> > > > > > specified update?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE,
> > > > if fails do
> > > > > > INSERT.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are probably better
> > > > > > off setting
> > > > > > the columns default value to zero, this way you will
> > always be able
> > to
> > > > > > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > > > > > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > > > > > > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find
> > out if the
> > > > > > > VALUE exists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There must be a better way...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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RE: Setting form var with Java

2001-04-22 Thread David Shadovitz

FWIW, it's cleaner to simply pass in the object itself rather than its name. 
 Here's how I'd write it:

function changevalue(Field) {
var oldvalue;
var newvalue;
oldvalue = Field.value;
TAKE ACTION HERE
Field.value = newvalue;
}

and here's an example of how to pass in the Field object:






-David

On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:30 PM, Bruce, Rodney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions
>
> The one I got to work was Mark's below.
>
>
> Thanks again
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Rowntree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Setting form var with Java
>
>
> try:
>
> document.forms[FormName].elements[FieldName].value
>
> Let me know.
>
> Mark Rowntree

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RE: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

OK, u.recordcount could be 0 if the record you are expecting to find does
not exist or if the value of DT in that record does not match your criteria.
Your code will create a new record if either of the above is true. If this
is what you want I can't really see a better way of doing it.

Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 15:51
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> something like this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 
>  SELECT DN from logs WHERE DT=#DT#
>
> 
>
> 
>  UPDATE logs
>  SET DN=DN+#DN# WHERE DT=#DT#
>
> 
>
> 
>  INSERT INTO logs (DN,DT) VALUES (#DN#,#DT#)
>
> 
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:20 PM
> Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> > Please post your current SELECT/UPDATE code so I can see
> exactly what you
> > are doing.
> >
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 22 April 2001 15:30
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > It'll only work if I have all the possible values already placed
> > > in COLUM1.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:34 PM
> > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > > You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value 0 assigned by
> > > > default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other dbs. When a
> record
> > > is
> > > > created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by
> default.
> > > So,
> > > > if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if
> > > you have not
> > > > previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use INSERT
> > > > > to assign
> > > > > default values.
> > > > > I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> > > > > "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Micheal,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you
> simply want to
> > > check
> > > > > what
> > > > > > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> > > > > irrespective
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update
> > > sometimes,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > isn't that better than making two connections (select &
> > > update) if the
> > > > > > update is required. Only a thought.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the
> value in the
> > > column
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > specified update?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE,
> > > > > if fails do
> > > > > > > INSERT.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are
> probably better
> > > > > > > off setting
> > > > > > > the columns default value to zero, this way you will
> > > always be able
> > > to
> > > > > > > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > > > > > > IF COLUM1 already contains "VALUE" then UPDATE COLUM2+1
> > > > > > > > IF NOT, INSERT COLUM1,COLUM2 VALUES ("VALUE",1)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently I'm using SELECT / RecordCount to first find
> > > out if the
> > > > > > > > VALUE exists.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There must be a better way...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michael.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

Will CFCATCH/CFTRY with DATABASE error be a better solution?
i.e - TRY TO UPDATE no matter what -> if error occurs (row not exists) ->
INSERT.
Is this better then SELECT?

:)

- Original Message -
From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT


> OK, u.recordcount could be 0 if the record you are expecting to find does
> not exist or if the value of DT in that record does not match your
criteria.
> Your code will create a new record if either of the above is true. If this
> is what you want I can't really see a better way of doing it.
>
> Phil.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 22 April 2001 15:51
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > something like this.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 
> >  SELECT DN from logs WHERE DT=#DT#
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  UPDATE logs
> >  SET DN=DN+#DN# WHERE DT=#DT#
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  INSERT INTO logs (DN,DT) VALUES (#DN#,#DT#)
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> >
> >
> > > Please post your current SELECT/UPDATE code so I can see
> > exactly what you
> > > are doing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 15:30
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It'll only work if I have all the possible values already placed
> > > > in COLUM1.
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:34 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value 0 assigned
by
> > > > > default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other dbs. When a
> > record
> > > > is
> > > > > created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by
> > default.
> > > > So,
> > > > > if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if
> > > > you have not
> > > > > previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use
INSERT
> > > > > > to assign
> > > > > > default values.
> > > > > > I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> > > > > > "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Micheal,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you
> > simply want to
> > > > check
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> > > > > > irrespective
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update
> > > > sometimes,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > isn't that better than making two connections (select &
> > > > update) if the
> > > > > > > update is required. Only a thought.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > From: Phil Ewington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 12:04
> > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you mean if the record exists UPDATE, or if the
> > value in the
> > > > column
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > specified update?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the record does not exist, use cftry/cfcatch: try UPDATE,
> > > > > > if fails do
> > > > > > > > INSERT.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the record exists but value is NULL, you are
> > probably better
> > > > > > > > off setting
> > > > > > > > the columns default value to zero, this way you will
> > > > always be able
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > increment the value by 1 using UPDATE.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:06
> > > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > > > Subject: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to find the best way to have SQL do this:
> > > > > > 

Re: CFExcute doesn't run EXEs

2001-04-22 Thread Michael Lugassy

SUBJECT CLOSED.
I moved the arj32.exe to a diffrent directory then C:\inetpub

worked like a charm!

Michael.

- Original Message -
From: "Craig Dudley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: CFExcute doesn't run EXEs


> Have you tried adding a timeout value to cfexecute ?
>
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 April 2001 14:33
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFExcute doesn't run EXEs
>
>
> Very simple Code:
> 
>
> the arjlogs.bat contains this line (which works great when I double click
it
> from explorer):
>
> c:\inetpub\arj\arj32.exe a -e -hm1 -i -jm -y c:\inetpub\logs\summary.arj
> c:\inetpub\logs\*.log
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Terry Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: CFExcute doesn't run EXEs
>
>
> > got code?
> >
> >
> > Terry Bader
> > IT/Web Specialist
> > EDO Corp - Combat Systems
> > (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > (757)581-5981 - Mobile
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > icq: 5202487   aim: lv2bounce
> > http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:12 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: CFExcute doesn't run EXEs
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm having problems with CFEXCUTE.
> > > apperntly I can run stricly bat files that contains
> > > commands like: move, copy and such..
> > >
> > > but I can't seem to run .exe files (not directly with
> > > cfexcute, nor with .bat that runs them).
> > >
> > > The exe file is stored on a foder where
> > > INTERNET USER/SYSTEM have both full rights.
> > > Also, I've set IIS to run scripts&excutebals on this
> > > directory and the directroy that runs the CF template.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Michael Lugassy
> > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > >
> >
>
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RE: UPDATE / INSERT

2001-04-22 Thread Phil Ewington

The method I have used for using CFTRY/CFCATCH is for when I want to update
a column if the record exists, if not then create  the record. However I
would only use this if you expect the update to succeed more than fail, the
reason for this is that an entry is made to application.log each time the
update fails. Even though your application.log should be checked and cleared
regularly, I found that in a short space of time the size of the log
increased greatly. Still not sure whether CF should write to the log as the
error has been handled, argument here for whether this is bug in CF. This
was a problem for me due to very high levels of traffic. Here's the code
anyway:


  
UPDATE logs
SET DN=DN+#DN# WHERE DT=#DT#


  
  INSERT INTO logs (DN,DT) VALUES (#DN#,#DT#)



HTH

Phil.

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 22 April 2001 16:59
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> Will CFCATCH/CFTRY with DATABASE error be a better solution?
> i.e - TRY TO UPDATE no matter what -> if error occurs (row not exists) ->
> INSERT.
> Is this better then SELECT?
>
> :)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:29 PM
> Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
>
>
> > OK, u.recordcount could be 0 if the record you are expecting to
> find does
> > not exist or if the value of DT in that record does not match your
> criteria.
> > Your code will create a new record if either of the above is
> true. If this
> > is what you want I can't really see a better way of doing it.
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 22 April 2001 15:51
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > something like this.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 
> > >  SELECT DN from logs WHERE DT=#DT#
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >  UPDATE logs
> > >  SET DN=DN+#DN# WHERE DT=#DT#
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >  INSERT INTO logs (DN,DT) VALUES (#DN#,#DT#)
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > >
> > >
> > > > Please post your current SELECT/UPDATE code so I can see
> > > exactly what you
> > > > are doing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 15:30
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It'll only work if I have all the possible values already placed
> > > > > in COLUM1.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:34 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You need to set your table to have COLUM1 have a value
> 0 assigned
> by
> > > > > > default, this is possible in SQL not sure about other
> dbs. When a
> > > record
> > > > > is
> > > > > > created, COLUM1 will be automatically assigned a value of 0 by
> > > default.
> > > > > So,
> > > > > > if you always do an update, the value will be updated even if
> > > > > you have not
> > > > > > previously assigned a value. Does this make sense?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 22 April 2001 13:59
> > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but if the value is not exists in "COLUM" I'll need to use
> INSERT
> > > > > > > to assign
> > > > > > > default values.
> > > > > > > I can't predicte all the possible values, so I can't make a
> > > > > > > "READY-FOR-UPDATE-ONLY" table.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > From: "Phil Ewington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:18 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: UPDATE / INSERT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Micheal,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thinking about it, if the value does exist and you
> > > simply want to
> > > > > check
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > that value is before updating, you could always do an update
> > > > > > > irrespective
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the value, sure, this will mean doing an un-necessary update
> > > > > sometimes,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > isn't that better than making two connections (select &
> > > > > update) if the
> > > > > > > > update is required. Only a thought.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Orig

Re: Image size

2001-04-22 Thread Don Vawter

I use cfx_image which automatically creates a thumbnail (or any other size
you want). It uses image.dll. The properties tab say it was made by Cap
Gemini and copyright by Jukka Manner.
It looks to me like CF_GIFGD is the successor to this. It is in the gallery,
by the same author, and does thumbnails and lots of other stuff. I haven't
used it.
http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA34726E-2830-11D4-AA
9700508B94F380&method=Full

- Original Message -
From: "Skip Ogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: Image size


> The Allaire Developers forum used to have a tag called cfx_imagesize (or
> something close to that). It isn't there any more, or I can't locate it.
>
> Does anyone know of ANY way to automatically create a thumbnail from an
> image as it is uploaded (with cffile)
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
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Re: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread zac

Adrian Cooper wrote:

> Even redundancy isn't a reason to run two seperate servers, because if either
> of
> the servers and/or the ODBC/OLEDB connection across the network goes down, the
> entire site is down anyway.

I believe that the separation is done to ensure data integrity when the web
server goes down. 

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RE: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Kelly Matthews

It really depends I did it for a long time. Never had major problems.
HOwever when I finally moved SQL to it's own server I did have performance
improvements, used less memories and had fewer errors. Not that there
was a major problem while SQL was on the same server it just performs
better when it's not. The big thing is to just monitor it. And set
your SQL memory not to go over a certain limit, because it really has
an appetite for memory otherwise.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?


Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
and IIS on the same NT machine.
"Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.

What do you think? Money is always an issue...

Thanks,

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Re: no buffer space available

2001-04-22 Thread Howie Hamlin

It means your system is out of resources.

http://www.sockets.com/err_lst1.htm#WSAENOBUFS

HTH,

Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
www.CoolFusion.com
631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server


- Original Message -
From: "S R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: no buffer space available


> Hi,
>
> This is not really a CF question but if anyone can help that would be
> awesome!! I've been using CuteFTP to upload files to my server which is a
> windows NT server. All of a sudden when I tried to connect to the server I
> get an error message that says Error 10055 in function bind 'No buffer
Space
> Available'.
>
> This is scary because I can't upload anything now. Does anyone know how to
> fix this???
>
> SR
>
>
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Good COM resource

2001-04-22 Thread mbrunt

I thought this looked like an excellent resource, for those of you who
already know this my apologies for duplicating information.

http://www.cfcomet.com/cfcomet/

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Macromedia Consulting
Tel 562.243.6255
Fax 401.696.4335
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graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want 
to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I 
looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product 
(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.

Any ideas?

Brook Davies



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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Ben Forta

Brook,

CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in June)
has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can access
the beta version, that's probably your best bet.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: graphing


Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.

Any ideas?

Brook Davies
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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

The thought had crossed my mind. I wasn't sure about the release date. What 
are your thoughts on running the Beta in a production environment? Does the 
beta expire?

Brook


At 04:12 PM 22/04/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Brook,
>
>CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in June)
>has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can access
>the beta version, that's probably your best bet.
>
>--- Ben
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: graphing
>
>
>Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
>to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
>looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
>(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Garza, Jeff

There is a package available from the Allaire Tag Gallery called Kava Chart
Servlets 

http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA34780E-2830-11D4-AA
9700508B94F380&method=Full)

It's not an applet but does require a servlet engine.  Your other option is
to wait for CF5.0.  Kool things happening in the 5.0 version...

Jeff Garza
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Spectrum Astro, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies
To: CF-Talk
Sent: 4/22/01 1:10 PM
Subject: graphing

Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not
want 
to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I

looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great
product 
(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.

Any ideas?

Brook Davies
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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Brad Comer

Is the graphing in CF5 applet or flash?

btc

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: graphing


Brook,

CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in June)
has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can access
the beta version, that's probably your best bet.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: graphing


Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.

Any ideas?

Brook Davies
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enterprise vs pro

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

Besides the load balancing and clustering support, are there any other 
significant differences between enterprise and pro besides price?





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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies






The following tables


At 03:20 PM 22/04/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Is the graphing in CF5 applet or flash?
>
>btc
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:13 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: graphing
>
>
>Brook,
>
>CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in June)
>has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can access
>the beta version, that's probably your best bet.
>
>--- Ben
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: graphing
>
>
>Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
>to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
>looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
>(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Daryl Fullerton

Brook

Another one is ChartFX.com

We use Popchart Live as well.

Both Great tools but a bit pricy.

Cheers

D


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-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 April 2001 21:27
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: graphing


The thought had crossed my mind. I wasn't sure about the release date.
What 
are your thoughts on running the Beta in a production environment? Does
the 
beta expire?

Brook


At 04:12 PM 22/04/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Brook,
>
>CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in
June)
>has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can
access
>the beta version, that's probably your best bet.
>
>--- Ben
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: graphing
>
>
>Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not
want
>to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all.
I
>looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great
product
>(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
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Re: no buffer space available

2001-04-22 Thread Jim McAtee

What are the specifics of your client machine setup?  We've been running
into similar problems on machines running Windows 2000 Pro machines and
Photoshop 6.  Complete inability to open new TCP/IP connections, whether
FTP, HTTP, lan.

We upgraded one machine to Photoshop 6.0.1 and so far it seems like it may
have solved the problem.  We'll know better after this developers has used
the machine for a full day or two.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "S R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:00 PM
Subject: no buffer space available


> Hi,
>
> This is not really a CF question but if anyone can help that would be
> awesome!! I've been using CuteFTP to upload files to my server which is a
> windows NT server. All of a sudden when I tried to connect to the server I
> get an error message that says Error 10055 in function bind 'No buffer
Space
> Available'.
>
> This is scary because I can't upload anything now. Does anyone know how to
> fix this???
>
> SR


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Re: enterprise vs pro

2001-04-22 Thread Rey Bango

Native DB drivers. Advanced security.

Go here:

http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=13570&Method=Full&Title=Edition
%20Comparison%20Matrix&Cache=False

to see a comparison of the products.

Rey Bango
Team Allaire...

- Original Message -
From: "Brook Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:42 PM
Subject: enterprise vs pro


> Besides the load balancing and clustering support, are there any other
> significant differences between enterprise and pro besides price?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which 
can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded file 
has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually 
execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true with 
a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).

I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't 
restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some 
one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?

How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without 
having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?

Brook Davies



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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Jeffry Houser


   Ooh, that one sounds like a serious NDA breach.

At 01:44 PM 04/22/2001 -0700, you wrote:


>  type = "Bar" or "HorizontalBar"
>  query = "query name"
>  valueColumn = "query column"
>  itemColumn = "query column"
>
>  showValueLabel = "yes", "no", or "rollover"
>  valueLabelFont = "Arial", "Courier", or "Times"
>  valueLabelSize = number of points
>  valueLocation = "on bar" or "over bar"
>  scaleFrom = integer maximum value
>  scaleTo = integer minimum value
>
>  showItemLabels = "yes" or "no"
>  itemLabelFont = "Arial", "Courier", or "Times"
>  itemLabelSize = number of points
>  itemLabelOrientation = "horizontal" or "vertical"
>
>  title = "title text"
>  titleFont = "Arial", "Courier", or "Times"
>
>  fileFormat = "Flash", "gif" or "jpg"
>  barSpacing = integer number of pixels
>  graphHeight = integer number of pixels
>  graphWidth = integer number of pixels
>  backgroundColor = "Web color"
>  borderColor = "Web color"
>  borderWidth = integer number of pixels
>  depth = integer number of pixels
>  colorList = "Web color list"
>  gridLines = integer number of lines
>  >
>
>
>The following tables
>
>
>At 03:20 PM 22/04/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Is the graphing in CF5 applet or flash?
> >
> >btc
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:13 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: graphing
> >
> >
> >Brook,
> >
> >CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in June)
> >has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can access
> >the beta version, that's probably your best bet.
> >
> >--- Ben
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: graphing
> >
> >
> >Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
> >to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
> >looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
> >(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Brook Davies
> >
> >
>
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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread zac

> There is a package available from the Allaire Tag Gallery
> called Kava Chart
> Servlets

>
http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA34780E-2830-11D4-AA
9700508B94F380&method=Full

> It's not an applet but does require a servlet engine.

And for those not adverse to applets it also comes in an applet version


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Re: uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Howie Hamlin

If you're using IIS then save the file to a folder that does not allow any
execution or scripting.

HTH,

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www.CoolFusion.com
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- Original Message -
From: "Brook Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: uploaded files


> I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which
> can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded file
> has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually
> execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true
with
> a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).
>
> I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't
> restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some
> one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?
>
> How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without
> having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?
>
> Brook Davies
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Mark Woods

assuming you are using IIS, create a virtual directory on your web site. 
Remove all the application mappings for that virtual directory and remove 
execute permissions, even for scripts.

I can't think of a problem with this, but it's Sunday night here and I've 
just returned from a few drinks down the local so I may not have considered 
everything.


Mark


At 10:11 PM 22/04/2001, you wrote:
>I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which
>can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded file
>has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually
>execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true with
>a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).
>
>I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't
>restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some
>one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?
>
>How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without
>having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
>
>
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Re: uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Dick Applebaum

Don't give them direct access to an uploaded file... make them go 
through a program you write which fetches the file and displays it.

HTH

Dick


At 2:11 PM -0700 4/22/01, Brook Davies wrote:
>I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which
>can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded file
>has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually
>execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true with
>a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).
>
>I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't
>restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some
>one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?
>
>How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without
>having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
>
>
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Re: uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Brook Davies

The directory that the files are saved to is dynamically generated. Can I 
set this attribute with cfdirectory when I create the directory. Or would 
the sub dir inherent its parents settings?

At 05:17 PM 22/04/01 -0400, you wrote:
>If you're using IIS then save the file to a folder that does not allow any
>execution or scripting.
>
>HTH,
>
>Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
>On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
>www.CoolFusion.com
>631-737-4668 x101
>inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Brook Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:11 PM
>Subject: uploaded files
>
>
> > I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which
> > can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded file
> > has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually
> > execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true
>with
> > a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).
> >
> > I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't
> > restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some
> > one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?
> >
> > How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without
> > having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?
> >
> > Brook Davies
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Mark Woods


>Or would
>the sub dir inherent its parents settings?

providing all the files go into sub-directories of the physical directory 
set as the root of your virtual directory, yes (oh, assuming none of these 
sub-dirs are used as the physical root of some other virtual directory)


Mark



>At 05:17 PM 22/04/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >If you're using IIS then save the file to a folder that does not allow any
> >execution or scripting.
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
> >On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
> >www.CoolFusion.com
> >631-737-4668 x101
> >inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Brook Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:11 PM
> >Subject: uploaded files
> >
> >
> > > I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which
> > > can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded 
> file
> > > has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually
> > > execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true
> >with
> > > a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).
> > >
> > > I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't
> > > restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some
> > > one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?
> > >
> > > How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without
> > > having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?
> > >
> > > Brook Davies
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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RE: Image size

2001-04-22 Thread Bill Poff

There are some command line programs available at fcoder.com which will
convert to
GIF, JPG, PNG, etc. You can run them with  or .
You can specify
image size, destination name/location, etc.

We've been using them with pretty good results. They don't support AI or EPS
as source
(bummer) but they do support quite a few different source file formats.

It would be a pretty easy job to make  tags for these.

--Bill

-Original Message-
From: Don Vawter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Image size


I use cfx_image which automatically creates a thumbnail (or any other size
you want). It uses image.dll. The properties tab say it was made by Cap
Gemini and copyright by Jukka Manner.
It looks to me like CF_GIFGD is the successor to this. It is in the gallery,
by the same author, and does thumbnails and lots of other stuff. I haven't
used it.
http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA34726E-2830-11D4-AA
9700508B94F380&method=Full

- Original Message -
From: "Skip Ogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: Image size


> The Allaire Developers forum used to have a tag called cfx_imagesize (or
> something close to that). It isn't there any more, or I can't locate it.
>
> Does anyone know of ANY way to automatically create a thumbnail from an
> image as it is uploaded (with cffile)
>
> Thanks...
>
>
>
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Re: uploaded files

2001-04-22 Thread Tony Schreiber

Run all your files through something like this:

// Strip out Bad Tags
// Code adapted from Nathan Dintenfass' and Ben Archibald's CF_SafeText
Custom Tag
Message = TRIM(ThisTag.GeneratedContent);
if (Attributes.AllowHTML) { badtags 
"SCRIPT|OBJECT|APPLET|EMBED|FORM|LAYER|ILAYER|FRAME|IFRAME|FRAMESET|PARAM|META|TABLE|TD|TH|TR|HEAD|BODY|FONT";
}
else { badtags 
"SCRIPT|OBJECT|APPLET|EMBED|FORM|LAYER|ILAYER|FRAME|IFRAME|FRAMESET|PARAM|META|TABLE|TD|TH|TR|HEAD|BODY|FONT|A|IMG|B|U|I|OL|UL";
}
badevents 
"onClick|onDblClick|onKeyDown|onKeyPress|onKeyUp|onMouseDown|onMouseOut|onMouseUp|onMouseOver|onBlur|onChange|onFocus|onSelect|javascript:";
StripperRE = "<[[:space:]]?/?[[:space:]]?(#badtags#|(CF)+)[^>]*>";
Message = REReplaceNoCase(Message, StripperRE, '', 'ALL');
Message = REReplaceNoCase(Message, (badevents), '', 'ALL');
Message = REReplace(Message, '(’|‘)', "'", 'ALL');

> I have an application which allows clients to upload various files which 
> can later me accessed via the web. My concern is that if the uploaded file 
> has a .cfm extension, when it is reviewed post upload, it could actually 
> execute malicious code on the server. I guess the same would hole true with 
> a .exe file (except that execute privileges are disabled).
> 
> I need to allow a wide range of acceptable upload types, so I can't 
> restrict it at the upload stage. What would be the best way to allow some 
> one to access these files post upload while not posing a security threat?
> 
> How would I enable a download of a .cfm file or a .js or whatever without 
> having it execute on the server as opposed to promoting for a download?
> 
> Brook Davies
> 
> 
> 
>
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Business Objects and Cold Fusion

2001-04-22 Thread Wally Randall

My client has just acquired Business Objects for their WEB based reporting system.  
Does anyone have any experience with interfacing with this tool from Cold Fusion?  I 
understand it is possible to do so?

Business Objects and Cold Fusion are both running on Solaris platforms against Oracle 
8i databases.


Wally Randall
Gaithersburg MD - USA



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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Ben Forta

I am doing so already :-)



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: graphing


The thought had crossed my mind. I wasn't sure about the release date. What
are your thoughts on running the Beta in a production environment? Does the
beta expire?

Brook


At 04:12 PM 22/04/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Brook,
>
>CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in
June)
>has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can
access
>the beta version, that's probably your best bet.
>
>--- Ben
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: graphing
>
>
>Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
>to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
>looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
>(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
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RE: graphing

2001-04-22 Thread Ben Forta

GIF, JPEG, Flash



-Original Message-
From: Brad Comer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: graphing


Is the graphing in CF5 applet or flash?

btc

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: graphing


Brook,

CF5, which is just about nearing the end of its beta cycle (due out in June)
has graphing built in. So, if you can wait a few weeks, or if you can access
the beta version, that's probably your best bet.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: graphing


Does any one know of a good graphing solution for a cf app? I do not want
to use the allaire applets. I would prefer not using an applet at all. I
looked at Corda Pop charts (www.popcharts.com). They have a great product
(generates flash graphs) just a little out of my price range.

Any ideas?

Brook Davies
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WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Mak Wing Lok

i encountered this error if one of my WDDX field contain an ampersand (&)

XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1, column 941, buffer
offset 941)

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFWDDX), occupying document position (21:1) to (21:64).

any idea how can i solve this?



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Re: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread gunawan

I think the most important issue is "Security".
If we put IIS and SQL Server on the same machine
it could be a dissaster whenever your IIS is being hacked.

By separating ISS and SQL Server we make difficult for hacker
to exploit what ever we have. Mostly we use local ip address between
IIS and SQL server.





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RE: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Dave Watts

> i encountered this error if one of my WDDX field contain an 
> ampersand (&)
> 
> XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1, 
> column 941, buffer offset 941)
> 
> The error occurred while processing an element with a general 
> identifier of (CFWDDX), occupying document position (21:1) to 
> (21:64).
> 
> any idea how can i solve this?

The ampersand is a symbolic character in XML and HTML. You'll need to escape
any symbolic characters using the XMLFormat function before using CFWDDX.

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Re: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Mak Wing Lok

i did, but if i use XMLFormat i get this error instead :

XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1, column 0, buffer
offset 0)

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFWDDX), occupying document position (21:1) to (21:64).


- Original Message -
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: WDDX error


> > i encountered this error if one of my WDDX field contain an
> > ampersand (&)
> >
> > XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1,
> > column 941, buffer offset 941)
> >
> > The error occurred while processing an element with a general
> > identifier of (CFWDDX), occupying document position (21:1) to
> > (21:64).
> >
> > any idea how can i solve this?
>
> The ampersand is a symbolic character in XML and HTML. You'll need to
escape
> any symbolic characters using the XMLFormat function before using CFWDDX.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
>
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RE: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Dave Watts

> i did, but if i use XMLFormat i get this error instead :
> 
> XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1, 
> column 0, buffer offset 0)
> 
> The error occurred while processing an element with a general 
> identifier of (CFWDDX), occupying document position (21:1) to 
> (21:64).

Are you sure you don't have anything other than the WDDX packet in your data
stream? No HTML tags or anything? That's the most common cause for this
problem, I think.

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Repost Cftree and unicode

2001-04-22 Thread Marius Milosav

I have asked this a few days ago but I'm not sure it made it to the list.
Is it possible to display unicode in cftree? Based on our tests cftree
doesn't properly display unicode (being a Java applet is should)
I was wondering if somebody was able to do it.
If not, will the Flash components developed by Figleaf display it correctly
and if yes when will they be available to the public?

Thanks
Marius Milosav
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www.scorpiosoft.com/vhd/login.cfm


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Re: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Mak Wing Lok

here's my WDDX packet data, any problem with it? the error occured on "&
MEG. DIATRIAZOTE "

0002729110411IP004400164111JDH
PHARMACEUTICAL SDN. BHD.28.3604.01 SOD.& MEG. DIATRIAZOTE 76%
INJPCK OF 5 AMPS
AMP

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: WDDX error


> > i did, but if i use XMLFormat i get this error instead :
> >
> > XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1,
> > column 0, buffer offset 0)
> >
> > The error occurred while processing an element with a general
> > identifier of (CFWDDX), occupying document position (21:1) to
> > (21:64).
>
> Are you sure you don't have anything other than the WDDX packet in your
data
> stream? No HTML tags or anything? That's the most common cause for this
> problem, I think.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
>
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RE: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Dave Watts

> here's my WDDX packet data, any problem with it? the error 
> occured on "& MEG. DIATRIAZOTE "

Well, the only thing I see wrong is the ampersand, which when escaped should
look like this:

&

Other than that, I don't see anything.

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What is WDDX?

2001-04-22 Thread Javier Woodhouse

I've heard a lot of talk about WDDX but i'am unclear as to what it is, what
is it used for? Can anyone explain? Or recomend a site with tutorials and
information?

Regards, 
Javier Woodhouse 

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RE: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?

2001-04-22 Thread Sicular, Alexander

absolutely not. do not put database and webserver on the same box. not good
for security or performance. i have both on my laptop for development stuff
but that's it.

good luck ,

alex

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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL SERVER and IIS on the same machine?


Our hosting company told me they don't support SQL SERVER
and IIS on the same NT machine.
"Even Microsoft doesn't recommened it", they claim.

What do you think? Money is always an issue...

Thanks,

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Re: What is WDDX?

2001-04-22 Thread David E. Crawford

Web Distributed Data Exchange - check out http://www.openwddx.org/

DC

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From: "Javier Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 21:49
Subject: What is WDDX?


> I've heard a lot of talk about WDDX but i'am unclear as to what it is,
what
> is it used for? Can anyone explain? Or recomend a site with tutorials and
> information?
>
> Regards,
> Javier Woodhouse
>
>
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RE: What is WDDX?

2001-04-22 Thread Dave Watts

> I've heard a lot of talk about WDDX but i'am unclear as to 
> what it is, what is it used for? Can anyone explain? Or recomend 
> a site with tutorials and information?

WDDX is an open-source XML DTD originally created by Allaire to describe
generic data objects (arrays, structures, recordsets, strings, numbers,
dates and so forth). You can take an object in CF and use the CFWDDX tag to
create a WDDX packet, which is an XML-compliant document that can be later
deserialized back into a native data object in CF or in other languages.

That's a pretty buzzword-thick explanation, so here's an example. You might
use WDDX to exchange data between servers, by having one server generate
WDDX output when a certain URL is requested, and having another server
request that URL via CFHTTP, then retrieve and deserialize the data. So,
essentially, you could pass the results of a database query between two
servers. You can pass nearly anything you like. That's just one thing you
can do with WDDX.

For more information, visit http://www.openwddx.org/.

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RE: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Dave Watts

> if i escaped it change most of the field and it return back 
> with this error again :
> XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 
> 1,column 0, buffer offset 0)
> 
> is there a way where i can change the & only on the WDDX packet?

When are you escaping it? Before you serialize it, right? If not, that's
your problem. If you want to show some code, that might help.

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Re: What is WDDX?

2001-04-22 Thread Rey Bango

Javier,

Go to www.openwddx.org for more information.

Rey...

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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 9:49 PM
Subject: What is WDDX?


> I've heard a lot of talk about WDDX but i'am unclear as to what it is,
what
> is it used for? Can anyone explain? Or recomend a site with tutorials and
> information?
>
> Regards,
> Javier Woodhouse
>
>
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RE: WDDX error

2001-04-22 Thread Dick Applebaum

Dave

Isn't handling of these special characters taken care of by the 
cfml2wddx action of the cfwddx tag?

Dick


At 9:48 PM -0400 4/22/01, Dave Watts wrote:
>  > here's my WDDX packet data, any problem with it? the error
>>  occured on "& MEG. DIATRIAZOTE "
>
>Well, the only thing I see wrong is the ampersand, which when escaped should
>look like this:
>
>&
>
>Other than that, I don't see anything.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444
>
>
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RE: syntax for cli execution of a cfm page?

2001-04-22 Thread Sicular, Alexander

ive been using it since cf3. there is always an exe to be used as a cgi
program if there was no api for the webserver of your choice.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: syntax for cli execution of a cfm page?


At 08:32 PM 18/04/2001, you wrote:
>Thanks for the info guys. In case anyone was wondering:
>
>cfml.exe c:\path\template.cfm
>
>does actually work. ;p

cool, anyone know if this is new to cf 4.5? I don't know if I ever actually 
tried just running cfml.exe with the path as a parameter before, I'm gonna 
be kicking myself if this functionality has always been available.


Mark
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