MX + ArcIMS

2002-10-16 Thread Hugo Ahlenius

(As a background for people who don't know what this is about:
ArcIMS is a piece of software by a company called ESRI that is basically a
web-service for creating maps on-the fly, as well as querying and
manipulating those maps. ESRI has supported CF up to 5.0, but the MX
support has been slow.)

(This message has also been posted on the ESRI CF/ArcIMS discussion board)

It sounds good that there will be MX support in the upcoming ArcIMS 4.01.

But... Would it be overly tricky for us (the community) to roll our own
connector? What is the magic that is done in the CFX/DLLs/SOs etc in the
connector?

I understand part of what is done is handling the CustomTags and parsing
the return AXL's, but that is nothing overly complicated, right?
(especially with MX's XML abilities?)

Step one would be to create tags/UDF's/CFC's to just send and receive
AXL's (wouldn't it just be posting the request AXL to a specified port?)
and get the return.

Further steps would be to mimic/copy the behaviour of the CF_ARCIMS tag,
parse the request (OUT_QUERYTABLE etc) and catch errors.

If it is community owned/maintained it could be open source, and we could
fix errors and improve the tag-set continously.

Any comments?





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RE: Collaborative Works Solutions

2002-10-16 Thread Adam Reynolds

have a look at www.groove.net

That is very good.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 15 October 2002 23:57
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Collaborative Works Solutions


 Funny - I just received a newsletter from websitenotes.com
 http://www.websitenotes.com/

 The home page is some guy writing a userless article- but listed are 3
 seemingly open source/community type CMS's
 I do not know about them nor tested them - but am always on the look out
 for free to cheap for my cheapo client group - may be worth a look (
 although disappointing none in CF )
 good luck

 Doug wrote:

 We have used Microsoft's SharePoint Server.  MM's Mindspring is
 somewhat resource intensive for our
 needs.
 
 
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http://www.ordb.org
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- Original Message -
From: Trey Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: Collaborative Works Solutions


| A little off thread, but I'm curious if anyone out here in CF-Talk land
| has had much experience with online collaborative tools solutions.
| Specifically Collaborative Works like document creation, and sharing.
| Looking to evaluate some packages before we decide to just create it
| ourselves.
|
|
|
| Trey Rouse
|
| Internet Project Supervisor
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| Rice University
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RE: Collaborative Works Solutions - Slightly OT

2002-10-16 Thread Adam Reynolds

I'll repeat again :)

Have a look at www.groove.net. It is very very extensible.

 -Original Message-
 From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 15 October 2002 18:32
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Collaborative Works Solutions - Slightly OT


 We haven't been challenged with a specific set of requirements for this.
 This is one of these generic challenges of what solutions can you offer.

 I think the primary requirement is going to enable multiple users to
 work on separate pieces of a document independently and post them back
 to the master.  Obviously the package has to be very user aware and a
 little sophisticated in how it reconciles user changes.

 I would expect the solution to also include point in time versioning of
 all documents.

 It would be nice if a single solution also bundled a forum to accompany
 the documents for discussion.

 I understand that MS Sharepoint should do all this, but I haven't seen a
 working example of its features.  Plus, I was curious what other
 products are out there, and if any of them would tie in with CF.

 Trey Rouse
 Internet Project Supervisor
 Rice University

  -Original Message-
  From: Ali Daniali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:52 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Collaborative Works Solutions
 
  what are your requirements. We have bought and used several favors.
  -AD
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:45 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Collaborative Works Solutions
 
 
  A little off thread, but I'm curious if anyone out here in CF-Talk
 land
  has had much experience with online collaborative tools solutions.
  Specifically Collaborative Works like document creation, and sharing.
  Looking to evaluate some packages before we decide to just create it
  ourselves.
 
 
 
  Trey Rouse
 
  Internet Project Supervisor
 
  Rice University
 
 
 
 
 
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SQL problem : Full-text indexing doesn't work on MS Word docs !!!!

2002-10-16 Thread Vishal Narayan

I am using SQL 2000, and as per the docs, I should be able to create 
Full-text indexes on MS Word docs stored in image columns.
Just to test this, I created a new table, and used the TEXTCOPY application 
to add around 20 rows in it, one word document per row.

The table schema is as follows :

cnd_id  int 
ENTRY_DATE  datetime
UPDATE_DATE datetime
USER_RESUME text
WORD_RESUME image   
BINDCOL char

I used the full-text indexing wizard to specify the image column 
WORD_RESUME, and the associated binding column BINDCOL, which contains the 
value '.doc' for each row. The wizard then notifies me that the index has 
been created, but not populated. On completing full population, the 
properties of the catalog read as follows :

Item Count : 21
Catalog Size : 1 MB
Unique Key Count : 8

I'm quite positive that there are more than 8 non-noise words in the 21 
docs in this table. On adding more rows, and populating the catalog again, 
the key count stays the same. And both the CONTAINS and FREETEXT predicates 
give me no result when used to query this column.

I already use full-text indexes on text columns, without any problem. So my 
best guess is that the SQL 2000 filters for .doc are either missing or not 
working.

Can anyone help me on this one ?

Vishal. 

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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

it looks as though that WDDX is my only option...there is nothing pre-MX
that is anywhere near stable or functional enough even on a simple level.

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 17:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


 It appears that the soXML tag is flawed, this is why it will not with my
 XML doc. more later, I need some rest before Hockey tonight! :-)

Break a leg! Not yours of course. ;P

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Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Craig Dudley

Hmm, I disagree, soXML is however a bag of s**t.

Try cf_XMLParser from http://www.cfdev.com

It's a java cfx and uses the xerces xml parser.

In my tests (under heavy load), it's 10-20 times faster than the MS XML
parser, it's also ROCK stable.

Craig.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 09:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


it looks as though that WDDX is my only option...there is nothing pre-MX
that is anywhere near stable or functional enough even on a simple level.

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 17:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


 It appears that the soXML tag is flawed, this is why it will not with my
 XML doc. more later, I need some rest before Hockey tonight! :-)

Break a leg! Not yours of course. ;P

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046


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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

can it read in an XML file and copy an edited XML packet back out to the
file UNTOUCHED?

This is my problemeven the cf_xmlparser seems only 1-way.

N

-Original Message-
From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


Hmm, I disagree, soXML is however a bag of s**t.

Try cf_XMLParser from http://www.cfdev.com

It's a java cfx and uses the xerces xml parser.

In my tests (under heavy load), it's 10-20 times faster than the MS XML
parser, it's also ROCK stable.

Craig.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 09:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


it looks as though that WDDX is my only option...there is nothing pre-MX
that is anywhere near stable or functional enough even on a simple level.

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 17:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


 It appears that the soXML tag is flawed, this is why it will not with my
 XML doc. more later, I need some rest before Hockey tonight! :-)

Break a leg! Not yours of course. ;P

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046



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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Craig Dudley

It returns a CF structure, you won't find a parser that will edit a packet I
don't think, it's easy enough to recreate it anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


can it read in an XML file and copy an edited XML packet back out to the
file UNTOUCHED?

This is my problemeven the cf_xmlparser seems only 1-way.

N

-Original Message-
From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


Hmm, I disagree, soXML is however a bag of s**t.

Try cf_XMLParser from http://www.cfdev.com

It's a java cfx and uses the xerces xml parser.

In my tests (under heavy load), it's 10-20 times faster than the MS XML
parser, it's also ROCK stable.

Craig.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 09:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


it looks as though that WDDX is my only option...there is nothing pre-MX
that is anywhere near stable or functional enough even on a simple level.

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 17:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


 It appears that the soXML tag is flawed, this is why it will not with my
 XML doc. more later, I need some rest before Hockey tonight! :-)

Break a leg! Not yours of course. ;P

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046




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Line Break problem in MX

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Murphy

I have a problem with creating a string with line breaks in it and saving
the string to a file.
-
  messagetext=;
  messagetext = #messagetext##reference#;
  messagetext = #messagetext##Chr(10)##replacedphonenumber#;
  messagetext = #messagetext##Chr(10)##Trim(message)#;

cffile action=WRITE file=file.txt output=#messagetext#
addnewline=No
--

This code ran fine in coldfusion 4.5 but it seems to be putting invalid
characters instead of line breaks in MX.
I have changed the code todo three file appends which works, but I was
hoping someone would be able to suggest a better way of doing this.

Cheers,

Colin Murphy


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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.



-Original Message-
From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


It returns a CF structure, you won't find a parser that will edit a packet I
don't think, it's easy enough to recreate it anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


can it read in an XML file and copy an edited XML packet back out to the
file UNTOUCHED?

This is my problemeven the cf_xmlparser seems only 1-way.

N

-Original Message-
From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


Hmm, I disagree, soXML is however a bag of s**t.

Try cf_XMLParser from http://www.cfdev.com

It's a java cfx and uses the xerces xml parser.

In my tests (under heavy load), it's 10-20 times faster than the MS XML
parser, it's also ROCK stable.

Craig.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 09:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


it looks as though that WDDX is my only option...there is nothing pre-MX
that is anywhere near stable or functional enough even on a simple level.

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 17:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


 It appears that the soXML tag is flawed, this is why it will not with my
 XML doc. more later, I need some rest before Hockey tonight! :-)

Break a leg! Not yours of course. ;P

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046





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RE: Line Break problem in MX

2002-10-16 Thread Adrian Lynch

Might you also need to put Chr(13) in there as well?

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Colin Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 10:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Line Break problem in MX


I have a problem with creating a string with line breaks in it and saving
the string to a file.
-
  messagetext=;
  messagetext = #messagetext##reference#;
  messagetext = #messagetext##Chr(10)##replacedphonenumber#;
  messagetext = #messagetext##Chr(10)##Trim(message)#;

cffile action=WRITE file=file.txt output=#messagetext#
addnewline=No
--

This code ran fine in coldfusion 4.5 but it seems to be putting invalid
characters instead of line breaks in MX.
I have changed the code todo three file appends which works, but I was
hoping someone would be able to suggest a better way of doing this.

Cheers,

Colin Murphy



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Re: Line Break problem in MX

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Murphy

Thanks but I tried that and all it done was add another character to the
string instead of creating a line break.

Colin
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Line Break problem in MX


 Might you also need to put Chr(13) in there as well?

 Ade

 -Original Message-
 From: Colin Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 10:36
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Line Break problem in MX


 I have a problem with creating a string with line breaks in it and saving
 the string to a file.
 -
   messagetext=;
   messagetext = #messagetext##reference#;
   messagetext = #messagetext##Chr(10)##replacedphonenumber#;
   messagetext = #messagetext##Chr(10)##Trim(message)#;

 cffile action=WRITE file=file.txt output=#messagetext#
 addnewline=No
 --

 This code ran fine in coldfusion 4.5 but it seems to be putting invalid
 characters instead of line breaks in MX.
 I have changed the code todo three file appends which works, but I was
 hoping someone would be able to suggest a better way of doing this.

 Cheers,

 Colin Murphy



 
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RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX

2002-10-16 Thread Dave Wilson

Joshua,

You could try htmldoc, a very powerful html to pdf convertor utility, which
works via the Command line and is free. http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc

There's excellent flexibility and documentation with this product. I don't
work for them, but I've used htmldoc for over 2 years now for all sorts of
things, from creating personalised custom car brochures on the fly, to
invoicing, or simply converting a brochureware site to a pdf booklet.

I began using it when using CF4.5 which had some problems with its cfexecute
tag, so I've used the CFX_execute tag available from the tag gallery,
eversince.

HTH,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 19:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


I can't get HTML2PDF3 to work with CFMX ... I get a java.io.IOException
error. The documentation seems a bit flaky too ... It refers to using
the path to the executable wihtout the .exe or filename, then the sample
file uses the full path and filename to the executable - it errors
either way, using the sample file right out of the ZIP or modifying it
as the directions say it should work. It generates the HTML templates,
then doesn't convert - it errors when accessing the executable file.

Anyone know of anything else? Or anyone have any experience with
HTML2PDF3 on CFMX?

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Eric G. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PDF to HTML on-the-fly


At 01:37 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
There is the html2pdf3 tag in the gallery that works quite well.  And
its free.

Sam

Here's something that I ran across that doesn't seem to work (at least I

couldn't make it work with MX).

I don't have the author attribution easily available, but I'm sure I
could
find it if anyone is interested.

In any case, I'd be interested if someone knows how to make something
like
this work (a situation where you can use form inputs to populate PDF
form
fields and present the pdf to the end user or mail it or whatever).

I'll list the entire set of instructions below.

Thanks in advance.

EGM



PDF Form Fields  How To
This example was done with Adobe 5 and Word 2K

1.  Create the .doc or .dot as you require.
2.  Save it as a .pdf using Adobe
3.  Open the pdf with Adobe
4.  Add the form fields.  This is done by clicking on the form tool
and
placing the field where you want it.

In my example the grid is turned on (CTRL U) or by clicking on View|Grid
The grid settings are adjusted by clicking on Edit|General|Layout Grid.
In
this case, the width and height between lines is .25” with two
subdivisions.

5.  Right-click on the field, then on “Properties”.  Next click on
“Options”.
6.  In the example, the first field is called “today” and the
default
is called #todayDate#.  This will be a variable name a little later.
The
“Type” is text. This is the default.
7.  The second field in the example is done the same way.
8.  Save the pdf.
9.  Next, click on “File|Export|Form Data” and save the exported
form
(This is the .fdf) to the same directory as the pdf.
10.  Now, start ColdFusion studio and open the fdf this way:  Click
on
File|Open|All Files.  You will see a warning that this is an
File|Open|unrecognized
text file.  Click on “Open”, anyway.
11.   Place a CFOUTPUT tag right before the first % sign in the
fdf
and a /CFOUTPUT immediately after the EOF at the end of the fdf.  The
example shows you where.  Spaces before or after the tags will generate
errors.
12.  In the area where you see  “/F (sampledoc.pdf)/ID” (without the

quotes) add an URL path before the filename, such as
“http://servername/directory structure/filename” (without the quotes).
See
the example.  Where you see servername above, you can use localhost or
an
IP address.
13. Save the file.
14.  Open a new CF template and add the code per the example.  Save
it.
15.   You sre ready to go.


NOTES:   1.  Adobe will not preserve your source document margins.
2.  The text in the Adobe document will not be in exactly the place
as
the source document.  To get
  Adobe to put things where you want them, you have to “play” with
the
source document.
3.  You CANNOT open the fdf with Adobe. You will get an error.  Open it
with CF Studio.



The FDF looks like this:

cfoutput%FDF-1.2
%âãÏÓ
1 0 obj

/FDF  /Fields [  /V (#fieldcontent#)/T (fieldcontent)  /V
(#todayDate#)/T (today)
]
/F (http://master/dqa/adobe/sampledoc.pdf)/ID [
c2331da405f412d95820b8849ee5fb590f5bb617ffcfb2e18a1dd497cd3c2b18
] 
 
endobj
trailer

/Root 1 0 R

 
%%EOF
/cfoutput






The CF template looks like this:

!---set date ---
cfset todayDate=#day(now())#
#MonthAsString(month(now()))#,  #year(now())#

!---simulate a query variable---
cfset simulatedcontent=This could be a query result
!--- if a query, it could be cfset simulatedcontent =
#queryname.fieldname# ---

!---this 

Re: MX + ArcIMS

2002-10-16 Thread Critter

oi Hugo!!

what  type  of  a hit with processing time do you think you would take if CF does all 
the parsing as
opposed to a dll?



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Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 2:47:08 AM, you wrote:

HA (As a background for people who don't know what this is about:
HA ArcIMS is a piece of software by a company called ESRI that is basically a
HA web-service for creating maps on-the fly, as well as querying and
HA manipulating those maps. ESRI has supported CF up to 5.0, but the MX
HA support has been slow.)

HA (This message has also been posted on the ESRI CF/ArcIMS discussion board)

HA It sounds good that there will be MX support in the upcoming ArcIMS 4.01.

HA But... Would it be overly tricky for us (the community) to roll our own
HA connector? What is the magic that is done in the CFX/DLLs/SOs etc in the
HA connector?

HA I understand part of what is done is handling the CustomTags and parsing
HA the return AXL's, but that is nothing overly complicated, right?
HA (especially with MX's XML abilities?)

HA Step one would be to create tags/UDF's/CFC's to just send and receive
HA AXL's (wouldn't it just be posting the request AXL to a specified port?)
HA and get the return.

HA Further steps would be to mimic/copy the behaviour of the CF_ARCIMS tag,
HA parse the request (OUT_QUERYTABLE etc) and catch errors.

HA If it is community owned/maintained it could be open source, and we could
HA fix errors and improve the tag-set continously.

HA Any comments?





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RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX - whoops

2002-10-16 Thread Dave Wilson

Whoops,

Just realised html2pdf3 is a wrapper for connecting to and utilising
htmldoc. Still, without looking at the html2pdf3 tag, I would reccomend
using htmldoc via the cfexecute and cfhttp tags (cfhttp useful for reading
in the dynamic content as a variable, which in turn can be used with cffile
to write a flat html file for htmldoc to convert.)

By going this more hardcore route in utilising htmldoc, you'll have much
much more scope in the kind of things you can apply to your pdf formatting
as most items are driven by CLI switches.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 12:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


Joshua,

You could try htmldoc, a very powerful html to pdf convertor utility, which
works via the Command line and is free. http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc

There's excellent flexibility and documentation with this product. I don't
work for them, but I've used htmldoc for over 2 years now for all sorts of
things, from creating personalised custom car brochures on the fly, to
invoicing, or simply converting a brochureware site to a pdf booklet.

I began using it when using CF4.5 which had some problems with its cfexecute
tag, so I've used the CFX_execute tag available from the tag gallery,
eversince.

HTH,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 19:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


I can't get HTML2PDF3 to work with CFMX ... I get a java.io.IOException
error. The documentation seems a bit flaky too ... It refers to using
the path to the executable wihtout the .exe or filename, then the sample
file uses the full path and filename to the executable - it errors
either way, using the sample file right out of the ZIP or modifying it
as the directions say it should work. It generates the HTML templates,
then doesn't convert - it errors when accessing the executable file.

Anyone know of anything else? Or anyone have any experience with
HTML2PDF3 on CFMX?

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Eric G. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PDF to HTML on-the-fly


At 01:37 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
There is the html2pdf3 tag in the gallery that works quite well.  And
its free.

Sam

Here's something that I ran across that doesn't seem to work (at least I

couldn't make it work with MX).

I don't have the author attribution easily available, but I'm sure I
could
find it if anyone is interested.

In any case, I'd be interested if someone knows how to make something
like
this work (a situation where you can use form inputs to populate PDF
form
fields and present the pdf to the end user or mail it or whatever).

I'll list the entire set of instructions below.

Thanks in advance.

EGM



PDF Form Fields  How To
This example was done with Adobe 5 and Word 2K

1.  Create the .doc or .dot as you require.
2.  Save it as a .pdf using Adobe
3.  Open the pdf with Adobe
4.  Add the form fields.  This is done by clicking on the form tool
and
placing the field where you want it.

In my example the grid is turned on (CTRL U) or by clicking on View|Grid
The grid settings are adjusted by clicking on Edit|General|Layout Grid.
In
this case, the width and height between lines is .25” with two
subdivisions.

5.  Right-click on the field, then on “Properties”.  Next click on
“Options”.
6.  In the example, the first field is called “today” and the
default
is called #todayDate#.  This will be a variable name a little later.
The
“Type” is text. This is the default.
7.  The second field in the example is done the same way.
8.  Save the pdf.
9.  Next, click on “File|Export|Form Data” and save the exported
form
(This is the .fdf) to the same directory as the pdf.
10.  Now, start ColdFusion studio and open the fdf this way:  Click
on
File|Open|All Files.  You will see a warning that this is an
File|Open|unrecognized
text file.  Click on “Open”, anyway.
11.   Place a CFOUTPUT tag right before the first % sign in the
fdf
and a /CFOUTPUT immediately after the EOF at the end of the fdf.  The
example shows you where.  Spaces before or after the tags will generate
errors.
12.  In the area where you see  “/F (sampledoc.pdf)/ID” (without the

quotes) add an URL path before the filename, such as
“http://servername/directory structure/filename” (without the quotes).
See
the example.  Where you see servername above, you can use localhost or
an
IP address.
13. Save the file.
14.  Open a new CF template and add the code per the example.  Save
it.
15.   You sre ready to go.


NOTES:   1.  Adobe will not preserve your source document margins.
2.  The text in the Adobe document will not be in exactly the place
as
the source document.  To get
  Adobe to put things where you want them, you have to “play” with
the
source document.
3.  You 

Re: Win2K SP3 killed my IIS

2002-10-16 Thread David Hannum

I tried to uninstall IIS to re-install it.  The uninstall hung up, but then,
all of a sudden about 10 IIS Admin panels popped up (from when I tried to
start it before perhaps???)  Anyway, I stopped the uninstall, closed the
panels and now it works.  The admin panel works and the server works.  Can't
figure it out, but hey, it's running!!!

Dave


- Original Message -
From: Bob Haroche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Win2K SP3 killed my IIS


Hmm...

First, can you un-install SP3 via the control panel?

Second, in the past I've had trouble with Zone Alarm loading at start
up hanging other services, including IIS and the IIS admin console. If
you have ZA, try disabling it at start up or even un-installing it.

Good luck.


PS. Next time, try www.goback.com -- inexpensive effective lifesaver
(and, no, I don't work for them)


-
Regards,
Bob Haroche
O n P o i n t  S o l u t i o n s
www.OnPointSolutions.com


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Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Jeffry Houser

  I've looked.  ~$550-$600 .
  I didn't pay much more than that, though, so it's all good.

At 06:09 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Hate to burst your bubble but...

..the resale value of that chair ain't what you think it is.

Seems the reseller market is flooded with them!!! :P

Jeffry Houser wrote:

   I love this chair.  It is comfortable.  It is the one area where I
 decided to splurge (during a particularly good year).  And it seemed to
 make sense because I spend 12+ hours a day at this computer.
 
   Once I bought it, my back problems just about all but went away.
 
   Although, now I started exercising and everything hurts.
 
   Maybe someday I'll buy one for my basement (err... living room) recording
 studio.
 
 
 At 05:08 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 
 
 those are the chairs...
 
 Glad to see you bought your own Jeff...
 
 I was reading a friends account of another defunct shop close out and
 the sadness of witnessing the dorks trying to cram there Aeron chair
 into their Saabs...
 
 Something redeeming about watching the waste be laid down.
 
 Paris Lundis
 Founder
 Areaindex, L.L.C.
 http://www.areaindex.com
 http://www.pubcrawler.com
 412-292-3135
 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
 [connecting people, places and things]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:06:07 -0400
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
 
 
 
   Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every
 cent.
 
   ( I'm putting it on eBay in January to pay the mortgage )
 
 At 03:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 
 
 
 At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web
 Dorks and the idiot business school wanks with their bullshit $800
 chairs and stupid gimmicks are back at their mostly trivial jobs for
 mostly someone else...
 
 
 
 --
 Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DotComIt, Putting you on the web
 AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
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 My CFMX Book:
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20
 My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com
 My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: MX + ArcIMS

2002-10-16 Thread Hugo Ahlenius

Well,

There would be a hit, but I think it wouldn't be too hard, since ArcIMS
will always be the weakest link(in most real-life cases, at least). With
MX' built in XML parsing, wouldn't that hit be livable?

/H.





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Bug in CFMX - MM JDBC Driver for Sybase

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum

I want to report a bug in Macromedia's JDBC driver for Sybase

I can make it fail using the MM driver and it works fine using a  
Sybase-supplied  JDBC driver.

This is a query i have used many times with different dbs:

My problem is that I am using CFMX on Mac OS X -- an unsupported  
platform -- but the bug is in Macromedia's JDBC driver.

Here's the db layout:


   Product   Supplier

   ProductID SupplierID
   Product   Supplier

   ProductAndSupplier

   SupplierID
   ProductID


Here's the query

   SELECT   P.Product, Count(S.SupplierID) AS NumberOfSuppliers
   FROM Product P
   LEFT OUTER JOIN ProductAndSupplier L ON P.ProductID  =  
L.ProductID
   LEFT OUTER JOIN Supplier   S ON L.SupplierID =  
S.SupplierID
   GROUP BY P.Product
   ORDER BY P.Product

here's some typical outout

   ProductNumber  of Suppliers

   Product A   2
   Product B   1
   Product C   0
   Product D   2

here's the layout

The query works fine with a Sybase-supplied driver.

The query fails  with the Macromedia Sybase JDBC driver if there are  
any products with no Suppliers (a valid condition). -- Product  C.

Here's the error I get:

Error Executing Database Query.
   [Macromedia][Sybase JDBC Driver]Unexpected token type: 0xe5   The  
error occurred in /opt/coldfusionmx/wwwroot/
   mycfmxapps/SybaseMMJDBCDriverBug.cfm: line 80

   78 :   ORDER BY P.Product
   79 :
   80 : /cfquery
   81 :
   82 : cfdump var=#MakeItBreak#

   SQLSELECT P.Product, Count(S.SupplierID) AS NumberOfSuppliers  
FROM Product P LEFT OUTER JOIN
   ProductAndSupplier L ON P.ProductID = L.ProductID LEFT OUTER JOIN  
Supplier S ON L.SupplierID = S.SupplierID
   GROUP BY P.Product ORDER BY P.Product

Anyway, since I have no standing (unsupported platform) i can't  
officially report the bug.

Below is a complete, self-contained, CFMX program to create and  
populate the tables, then cause the error.

I hope somebody using Sybase on a supported platform will try it and  
report the bug to Macromrdia.

Dick

 
==

cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=YES

cfset attributes.datasource   = SybaseMMJDBCDriverBug
cfset attributes.username = sa
cfset attributes.password = 

cfquery name=CreateTables
   datasource=#attributes.datasource#
   username=  #attributes.username#
   password=  #attributes.password#
   

   Create Table Product
(
 ProductID  Numeric(10,0) IDENTITY PRIMARY KEY NOT NULL,
 ProductVarChar(250)   NOT NULL
)

   Create Table Supplier
(
 SupplierID  Numeric(10,0) IDENTITY PRIMARY KEY NOT NULL,
 SupplierVarChar(250)   NOT NULL
)

   Create Table ProductAndSupplier
(
 SupplierID  Numeric(10,0)  References Supplier(SupplierID) NOT NULL,
 ProductID   Numeric(10,0)  References Product (ProductID)  NOT NULL
)

/cfquery


cfquery  name=PopulateTables
   datasource= #attributes.datasource#
   username=   #attributes.username#
   password=   #attributes.password#
   

   SET IDENTITY_INSERT Product ON

   INSERT INTO Product(ProductID, Product)  VALUES(1, 'Product A')
   INSERT INTO Product(ProductID, Product)  VALUES(2, 'Product B')
   INSERT INTO Product(ProductID, Product)  VALUES(3, 'Product C')
   INSERT INTO Product(ProductID, Product)  VALUES(4, 'Product D')

   SET IDENTITY_INSERT Product OFF

   SET IDENTITY_INSERT Supplier ON

   INSERT INTO Supplier(SupplierID, Supplier)  VALUES(1, 'Supplier 1')
   INSERT INTO Supplier(SupplierID, Supplier)  VALUES(2, 'Supplier 2')
   INSERT INTO Supplier(SupplierID, Supplier)  VALUES(3, 'Supplier 3')

   SET IDENTITY_INSERT Supplier OFF

   INSERT INTO ProductAndSupplier(SupplierID, ProductID)  VALUES(1, 1)
   INSERT INTO ProductAndSupplier(SupplierID, ProductID)  VALUES(1, 2)
   INSERT INTO ProductAndSupplier(SupplierID, ProductID)  VALUES(1, 4)
   INSERT INTO ProductAndSupplier(SupplierID, ProductID)  VALUES(2, 1)
   INSERT INTO ProductAndSupplier(SupplierID, ProductID)  VALUES(2, 4)

   CHECKPOINT

/cfquery

cfquery  name=MakeItBreak
   datasource= #attributes.datasource#
   username=   #attributes.username#
   password=   #attributes.password#
   

   SELECT   P.Product, Count(S.SupplierID) AS NumberOfSuppliers
   FROM Product P
LEFT OUTER JOIN ProductAndSupplier L ON P.ProductID  =  
L.ProductID
LEFT OUTER JOIN Supplier   S ON L.SupplierID =  
S.SupplierID
   GROUP BY P.Product
   ORDER BY P.Product

/cfquery

cfdump var=#MakeItBreak#

cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=NO


 
==

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Re: Oracle query help

2002-10-16 Thread Dave Carabetta

Shot in the dark, because one of the columns you've put in really might not
exist, but try getting rid of createodbcdate and use the to_date() function
in Oracle, as it is very particular about date formatting.

For example, instead of:
AND (STSERVICE.DATE_BEGIN BETWEEN #createodbcdate('07/01/00')# AND
#createodbcdate('06/30/01')#

try:

AND (STSERVICE.DATE_BEGIN BETWEEN to_date('07/01/00', 'MM/DD/') AND
to_date('06/30/01', 'MM/DD/')

If the dates are dynamic (which I'm sure they are), just replace the
'07/01/00' with the CF variables name. Try staying away from
CreateODBCDate().

HTH,
Dave.

- Original Message -
From: Kris Pilles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 03:53 PM
Subject: Oracle query help


 Heres the query:

 SELECT ALL STUDENT.STUDENT_NUM,
 STUDENT.LASTNAME, STUDENT.FIRSTNAME, STUDENT.BIRTHDATE, STUDENT.SEX,
 STUDENT.SSNUM,
 STSERVICE.DATE_BEGIN, STSERVICE.DATE_END, STSERVICE.LOCATION,
 STSERVICE.HANDICAP,
 STSERVICE.CSIZE_RATIO, STSERVICE.ST_CLASS, STSERVICE.FUND,
 STSERVICE.SERVICE, CUST1.CODE, CUST2.CODE, ST_CONTACTS.ID,
 ST_ADDRESSES.ADDRESS1_TX, ST_ADDRESSES.ADDRESS2_TX,
 ST_ADDRESSES.CITY_TX, ST_ADDRESSES.STATE_CD, ST_ADDRESSES.ZIP_NR
 FROM STUDENT, STSERVICE, ST_CONVERT_CUSTOMER CUST1, ST_CONVERT_CUSTOMER
 CUST2, ST_CONTACTS, ST_ADDRESSES
 WHERE ((STSERVICE.STUDENT_NUM = STUDENT.STUDENT_NUM)
  AND (ST_CONTACTS.STUDENT_NUM(+) = STUDENT.STUDENT_NUM)
  AND (ST_ADDRESSES.ST_CONTACT_ID(+) = ST_CONTACTS.ID)
  AND (STSERVICE.CUSTOMER = CUST1.CUSTOMER(+))
  AND (STSERVICE.HOME_DISTRICT = CUST2.CUSTOMER(+))
  AND (STSERVICE.DATE_BEGIN BETWEEN #createodbcdate('07/01/00')# AND
 #createodbcdate('06/30/01')#
   OR STSERVICE.DATE_END BETWEEN #createodbcdate('07/01/00')# AND
 #createodbcdate('06/30/01')#
   OR XSTART BETWEEN STSERVICE.DATE_BEGIN AND STSERVICE.DATE_END))
 /cfquery

 The error:

 **All column/table names are correct

 [Oracle][ODBC][Ora]ORA-00904: invalid column name

 Any ideas??? Any help would be appreicated.

 THanks



 Kris Pilles
 Website Manager
 Western Suffolk BOCES
 507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
 Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 
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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Kris Pilles

Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position that I think
many organizations are in.  We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it
because of the growing popularity of .NET .  I really enjoy CF and love
what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think
that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to
switch over to .NET entirely.  The biggest reason is .NET's ability to
allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client,
clinet server, web based etc...  This will allow our organization to
have all of their programmers working on the same platform thus creating
an internal community where everyone can help everyone else out and
learn from each other..

While CF is a great product, it can not offer this type of
standardization to us.  I am a strong believer in CF and will continue
to use it for development for my personal business sites as well as any
development I contract but in a corporate enviroment where many
different applications are being developed and supported, I have no
solid reasons as to why we shouldn't switch to .NET

KP

-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.

Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're
really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall
installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list
of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/

Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world,
the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following
are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:

http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19languageid=1
http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com

We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and
are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when
they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of
too!

In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding the
CF market:

*Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as
makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits
of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered
by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the
Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or
their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release of
CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will
enjoy this huge leap forward.

*We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them
be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings:
www.macromedia.com/desdev

*We're tappiing into new markets for CF:

-With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to
CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to CF
readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities.

-Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not
trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers.
Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are
moving into the dynamic application/web app development space in droves.
Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its built
in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter
learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for
these new application developers.

*We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work
more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering one-stop
shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we can
deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for those
who are integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked to
remain somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many (most) of
these innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms. 

Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of everything
we offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these areas
as they begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring additional
technologies  skills into their shops.

It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and
fixes and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board are
not mutually 

RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX

2002-10-16 Thread Joshua Miller

Thanks for the info ... I found the HTML doc site earlier and actually -
HTML2PDF3 uses HTMLDOC ... It's a small world ;) I got the HTML2PDF3 tag
to work finally, but it hoses the formatting, no matter what parameters
I pass it. 

My question for you about HTMLDOC is this: If I transform formatted HTML
into PDF, how well does HTMLDOC handle the transformation? I read that
it doesn't support HTML4 or CSS, how do you handle formatting? All HTML3
?

Thanks for your input,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


Joshua,

You could try htmldoc, a very powerful html to pdf convertor utility,
which works via the Command line and is free.
http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc

There's excellent flexibility and documentation with this product. I
don't work for them, but I've used htmldoc for over 2 years now for all
sorts of things, from creating personalised custom car brochures on the
fly, to invoicing, or simply converting a brochureware site to a pdf
booklet.

I began using it when using CF4.5 which had some problems with its
cfexecute tag, so I've used the CFX_execute tag available from the tag
gallery, eversince.

HTH,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 19:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


I can't get HTML2PDF3 to work with CFMX ... I get a java.io.IOException
error. The documentation seems a bit flaky too ... It refers to using
the path to the executable wihtout the .exe or filename, then the sample
file uses the full path and filename to the executable - it errors
either way, using the sample file right out of the ZIP or modifying it
as the directions say it should work. It generates the HTML templates,
then doesn't convert - it errors when accessing the executable file.

Anyone know of anything else? Or anyone have any experience with
HTML2PDF3 on CFMX?

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Eric G. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PDF to HTML on-the-fly


At 01:37 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
There is the html2pdf3 tag in the gallery that works quite well.  And 
its free.

Sam

Here's something that I ran across that doesn't seem to work (at least I

couldn't make it work with MX).

I don't have the author attribution easily available, but I'm sure I
could find it if anyone is interested.

In any case, I'd be interested if someone knows how to make something
like this work (a situation where you can use form inputs to populate
PDF form fields and present the pdf to the end user or mail it or
whatever).

I'll list the entire set of instructions below.

Thanks in advance.

EGM



PDF Form Fields  How To
This example was done with Adobe 5 and Word 2K

1.  Create the .doc or .dot as you require.
2.  Save it as a .pdf using Adobe
3.  Open the pdf with Adobe
4.  Add the form fields.  This is done by clicking on the form tool
and
placing the field where you want it.

In my example the grid is turned on (CTRL U) or by clicking on View|Grid
The grid settings are adjusted by clicking on Edit|General|Layout Grid.
In this case, the width and height between lines is .25” with two
subdivisions.

5.  Right-click on the field, then on “Properties”.  Next click on
“Options”.
6.  In the example, the first field is called “today” and the
default
is called #todayDate#.  This will be a variable name a little later. The
“Type” is text. This is the default.
7.  The second field in the example is done the same way.
8.  Save the pdf.
9.  Next, click on “File|Export|Form Data” and save the exported
form
(This is the .fdf) to the same directory as the pdf.
10.  Now, start ColdFusion studio and open the fdf this way:  Click
on
File|Open|All Files.  You will see a warning that this is an 
File|Open|unrecognized
text file.  Click on “Open”, anyway.
11.   Place a CFOUTPUT tag right before the first % sign in the
fdf
and a /CFOUTPUT immediately after the EOF at the end of the fdf.  The
example shows you where.  Spaces before or after the tags will generate
errors.
12.  In the area where you see  “/F (sampledoc.pdf)/ID” (without the

quotes) add an URL path before the filename, such as
“http://servername/directory structure/filename” (without the quotes).
See the example.  Where you see servername above, you can use localhost
or an IP address.
13. Save the file.
14.  Open a new CF template and add the code per the example.  Save
it.
15.   You sre ready to go.


NOTES:   1.  Adobe will not preserve your source document margins.
2.  The text in the Adobe document will not be in exactly the place
as
the source document.  To get
  Adobe to put things where you want them, you have to “play” with
the source document. 3.  You CANNOT open the fdf with 

Re: try-catch was RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

 On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 17:26 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
 Dealey wrote:
 Isaac the Butcher of Fusion ... :)

 Careful, that might stick! :)

At least then I'd be assured a reputation. :)

 [horrific factorial implemented with try/catch snipped]
 Of course not... For starters, there are existing UDF's
 on cflib.org to handle factorials. :P And I'm not certain
 the syntax is correct, but then it's MX and I haven't
 gotten to the new version yet, so I wouldn't know. :)

 Oh, don't worry - I tried it out first to make sure it ran
 :) :)

Yech... I pitty your server. :P

 lol... That's priceless -- most of that stuff is lame,
 but that first mittens anim. is hillarious... Incidentally
 one of the answers from the Magic 8 Ball is Tell people you
 can smell their brains, it's a good ice breaker at parties.

 Yes, I was at BACFUG one evening wearing my Mittens' face
 T shirt (no writing on it) and a voice behind me said I can
 smell your brains. It's a small world. The animator is a
 very good friend of mine back in the UK. He is totally
 barking :)

Barking's good. :) I really like the Mr Snaffleburger sketches... Though it
fits well with my hippie anti-commercialism/anti-consumerism schtick. :)

Mr Snaffleburger is confused because he doesn't know the meaning of
rebellion in a society where all forms of expression are mitigated by
consumption. And Mr Snaffleburger's [x] is broken.

Well, let's go shopping and get you a new one.

Shopping good.


Isaac
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)

2002-10-16 Thread Kola Oyedeji

Mike

Thanks for the reply, can I confirm that this is only relevant to CFMX
And that with CF5 there is no performance hit involved in heavy use of
try catch blocks?

Thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 15 October 2002 15:31
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
 implemented?)
 
 The try isn't too expensive, but the catch can be. However, running a
 bunch of trys within a loop can also degrade performance.
 
 The catch generates significant overhead when an exception is thrown
 because a copy of the stack has to be created.
 
 a quick search of google turns up:
 
 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/javaqa/2001-07/04-qa-0727-try.html
 

http://ccm.redhat.com/doc/core-platform/5.0/engineering-standards/perfor
 mance-optimization.html#Exceptions
 
 there is also a good discussion of it in:
 
 Java Performance Tuning published by O'Reilly.
 
 In general, you should not use try / catch for flow control.
 
 hope that helps...
 
 mike chambers
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
  CFMX J2EE implemented?)
 
 
  Hi
 
  Sean, have I missed something, are you saying try and catch add a
  significant performance overhead?
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Kola
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 15 October 2002 02:08
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How
  is CFMX J2EE
   implemented?)
  
  
   try/catch is a pretty heavy operation - you should only use it
for
   (unexpected) error cases, not normal operation...
  
 
 
 
 


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URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Bosky, Dave

URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

I want to urlencode email addresses in my CF code to prevent email
harvesting and seem to have trouble sending email when the address is
encoded.
---
CFMAIL TO=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
FROM=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
SUBJECT=Test-Encoded
TYOE=html
Test
/CFMAIL
---
Will I have to pass the encode email address to a script that will decode it
before sending the mail?

Thanks,

Dave



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RE: percentage of hits

2002-10-16 Thread Robert Orlini

Thanks Everett. I got it running. One more question...anyway to just display 3.06% and 
not all extra numbers?

Robert O.

-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: percentage of hits


cfset percentOfVisits=visits / total_visits * 100

490 is 3.0625% of 16,000

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: percentage of hits
 
 
 Using SUM (I think) how can I get a percentage when comparing 
 it to a total? For example if #visits# is 490 and 
 #total_visits# is 16000. What is the code to extract the 
 percentage of 490 out of 16000?
 
 Below is part of my code:
 
 cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
 select url, count(url) as 'visits' from log_data
 group by url
 order by visits desc
 /cfquery 
 
 cfquery name=datacount datasource=log_stats
 Select Count(*) AS total_count FROM log_data
 /cfquery
 
 cfoutput query=datacount#total_count#/cfoutput
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robert Orlini
 HWW
 
 
 

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RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

Can't you use URLDecode()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?
 
 
 URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?
 
 I want to urlencode email addresses in my CF code to prevent email
 harvesting and seem to have trouble sending email when the address is
 encoded.
 ---
 CFMAIL 
 TO=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 FROM=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 SUBJECT=Test-Encoded
 TYOE=html
 Test  
 /CFMAIL
 ---
 Will I have to pass the encode email address to a script that 
 will decode it
 before sending the mail?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dave
 
 
 
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RE: percentage of hits

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

NumberFormat() is probably your best bet.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:27 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: percentage of hits
 
 
 Thanks Everett. I got it running. One more question...anyway 
 to just display 3.06% and not all extra numbers?
 
 Robert O.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: percentage of hits
 
 
 cfset percentOfVisits=visits / total_visits * 100
 
 490 is 3.0625% of 16,000
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:59 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: percentage of hits
  
  
  Using SUM (I think) how can I get a percentage when comparing 
  it to a total? For example if #visits# is 490 and 
  #total_visits# is 16000. What is the code to extract the 
  percentage of 490 out of 16000?
  
  Below is part of my code:
  
  cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
  select url, count(url) as 'visits' from log_data
  group by url
  order by visits desc
  /cfquery 
  
  cfquery name=datacount datasource=log_stats
  Select Count(*) AS total_count FROM log_data
  /cfquery
  
  cfoutput query=datacount#total_count#/cfoutput
  
  Thanks.
  
  Robert Orlini
  HWW
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX

2002-10-16 Thread Dave Wilson

Yes, I simply use HTML 3 to handle all formatting. Its a little extra work,
but it's worth it in the long run. I do believe that HTML 4 support is in
the works, if it hasnt already been implemented. CSS is a different story
though. I'm not sure if it would be possible to support CSS in PDF. HTMLDoc
has a few parameters for specifying body text and header text styles etc,
which can be used as pseudo css code depending on the complexity of your
original html version.

Be careful with images and tables where page breaking is concerned as
htmldoc doesnt support html page breaks and thus images and tables will run
across multiple pages. Also, use relative references for any image files
used.

Having said all that, I still feel htmldoc is an excellent tool with more
than enough formatting flexibility for anyone.

Dave



-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 13:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


Thanks for the info ... I found the HTML doc site earlier and actually -
HTML2PDF3 uses HTMLDOC ... It's a small world ;) I got the HTML2PDF3 tag
to work finally, but it hoses the formatting, no matter what parameters
I pass it.

My question for you about HTMLDOC is this: If I transform formatted HTML
into PDF, how well does HTMLDOC handle the transformation? I read that
it doesn't support HTML4 or CSS, how do you handle formatting? All HTML3
?

Thanks for your input,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


Joshua,

You could try htmldoc, a very powerful html to pdf convertor utility,
which works via the Command line and is free.
http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc

There's excellent flexibility and documentation with this product. I
don't work for them, but I've used htmldoc for over 2 years now for all
sorts of things, from creating personalised custom car brochures on the
fly, to invoicing, or simply converting a brochureware site to a pdf
booklet.

I began using it when using CF4.5 which had some problems with its
cfexecute tag, so I've used the CFX_execute tag available from the tag
gallery, eversince.

HTH,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 19:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX


I can't get HTML2PDF3 to work with CFMX ... I get a java.io.IOException
error. The documentation seems a bit flaky too ... It refers to using
the path to the executable wihtout the .exe or filename, then the sample
file uses the full path and filename to the executable - it errors
either way, using the sample file right out of the ZIP or modifying it
as the directions say it should work. It generates the HTML templates,
then doesn't convert - it errors when accessing the executable file.

Anyone know of anything else? Or anyone have any experience with
HTML2PDF3 on CFMX?

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Eric G. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PDF to HTML on-the-fly


At 01:37 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
There is the html2pdf3 tag in the gallery that works quite well.  And
its free.

Sam

Here's something that I ran across that doesn't seem to work (at least I

couldn't make it work with MX).

I don't have the author attribution easily available, but I'm sure I
could find it if anyone is interested.

In any case, I'd be interested if someone knows how to make something
like this work (a situation where you can use form inputs to populate
PDF form fields and present the pdf to the end user or mail it or
whatever).

I'll list the entire set of instructions below.

Thanks in advance.

EGM



PDF Form Fields  How To
This example was done with Adobe 5 and Word 2K

1.  Create the .doc or .dot as you require.
2.  Save it as a .pdf using Adobe
3.  Open the pdf with Adobe
4.  Add the form fields.  This is done by clicking on the form tool
and
placing the field where you want it.

In my example the grid is turned on (CTRL U) or by clicking on View|Grid
The grid settings are adjusted by clicking on Edit|General|Layout Grid.
In this case, the width and height between lines is .25” with two
subdivisions.

5.  Right-click on the field, then on “Properties”.  Next click on
“Options”.
6.  In the example, the first field is called “today” and the
default
is called #todayDate#.  This will be a variable name a little later. The
“Type” is text. This is the default.
7.  The second field in the example is done the same way.
8.  Save the pdf.
9.  Next, click on “File|Export|Form Data” and save the exported
form
(This is the .fdf) to the same directory as the pdf.
10.  Now, start ColdFusion studio and open the fdf this way:  Click
on
File|Open|All Files.  You will see a warning that this is an
File|Open|unrecognized
text 

RE: percentage of hits

2002-10-16 Thread Tony Weeg

#numberFormat(Variablehere,'_.__')#

..tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: percentage of hits


Thanks Everett. I got it running. One more question...anyway to just
display 3.06% and not all extra numbers?

Robert O.

-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: percentage of hits


cfset percentOfVisits=visits / total_visits * 100

490 is 3.0625% of 16,000

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: percentage of hits
 
 
 Using SUM (I think) how can I get a percentage when comparing 
 it to a total? For example if #visits# is 490 and 
 #total_visits# is 16000. What is the code to extract the 
 percentage of 490 out of 16000?
 
 Below is part of my code:
 
 cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
 select url, count(url) as 'visits' from log_data
 group by url
 order by visits desc
 /cfquery 
 
 cfquery name=datacount datasource=log_stats
 Select Count(*) AS total_count FROM log_data
 /cfquery
 
 cfoutput query=datacount#total_count#/cfoutput
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robert Orlini
 HWW
 
 
 


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RE: MX + ArcIMS

2002-10-16 Thread Haggerty, Mike

Great idea, I would like to see it in action. 

I sicked our J2EE certified developer on this very project. What he came
back with is a solid 'I dunno'.

To date, we have attempted to rebuild the connectors to be MX compliant
three times and each time we have ended up with something worse than the
ones that come with ArcIMS.

Please tell me someone has made some progress on this... my client is really
sold on the whole MX thing and wants to move the product up within the next
six months. Right now, that is completely unfeasible unless we get something
that works. 

M

-Original Message-
From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: MX + ArcIMS


But... Would it be overly tricky for us (the community) to roll our own
connector? What is the magic that is done in the CFX/DLLs/SOs etc in the
connector?

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Printing the colours from DreamweaverMX

2002-10-16 Thread James Smith

Does anyone know if there is anyway to get DreamweaverMX to print the code
in colour (as it displays) or are we stuck with black and white?

--
James Smith
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RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Bosky, Dave

Do you mean?
CFMAIL 

TO=#URLDecode(%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%
74)#

FROM=#URLDecode(%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%6
5%74)#
 SUBJECT=Test-Encoded
 TYOE=html
 Test  
 /CFMAIL

-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

Can't you use URLDecode()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?
 
 
 URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?
 
 I want to urlencode email addresses in my CF code to prevent email
 harvesting and seem to have trouble sending email when the address is
 encoded.
 ---
 CFMAIL 
 TO=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 FROM=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 SUBJECT=Test-Encoded
 TYOE=html
 Test  
 /CFMAIL
 ---
 Will I have to pass the encode email address to a script that 
 will decode it
 before sending the mail?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dave
 
 
 
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RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Thomas Chiverton

Rather than role your own, why not look at the code produced by
http://www.hivelogic.com/safeaddress/ ?

Tom Chiverton
You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe in ColdFusion




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entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Tim Laureska

Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event start time.
 
I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
Thanks in advance 
 
Tim Laureska
 



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RE: MX + ArcIMS

2002-10-16 Thread Hugo Ahlenius

It depends on the release-date of ArcIMS 4.01, which ESRI claims should
have MX support.





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Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Doug

As a Microsoft Channel Partner and reseller, I can tell you that dot NET has had 
similar problems
with market penetration.   The big changes in Studio and the rather steep learning 
curve to become
proficient may well pay off at some time, but so far it has been slow to catch on.  
The multitudes
of VB programmers are having to learn it all over again due to lack of backward 
compatibility and
syntax changes needed to embrace OOP.   MS implementation of SOAP is likewise not 
mature as yet
either.  One hears quite a bit of ballyhoo about pure JAVA, however, its 
implementation leaves much
to be desired as well.  As a result, I am advising my clients to be careful about 
putting one's eggs
in just one basket.  With the adoption of standards ( depends on whose standards you 
wish to look
at) not being very mature, the entire market for Web Services is going to be in a 
state of flux for
a long time to come, and the vendors seem to be trying to overcome inherent weaknesses 
with
marketing, as opposed to product.

I have just taken a look at Microsoft's newest server entry, dot NET enterprise, I can 
see that
giant steps have been taken in ease of setup and administration  (It is almost as if 
they are trying
to put the system admins out of business) with features such as built-in SMTP hosting 
and POP3
features which will permit almost any server to be an email host, without the 
burdensome Exchange
server or other email server overlays.  Very easy to set up and administer for shared 
hosting, and
most of the other server functions which in the past have been really complex.  The 
built-in MSDE is
going to speed up most any database functions that have been very resource intensive 
in the past.

MS is taking security very seriously as they market their server products to the 
enterprise, and
there are many new security features in the product.

IBM has embraced both Linux and ColdFusion on their WebSphere (java) server product, 
which tells me
that CF is not going away anytime soon.

Version 4 of MySQL is soon to be released, which will make this database product very 
competitive
with the former mainstream products such as Oracle, MSSQL, Sybase, and SAP.  Being 
open-source, the
savings in licensing costs alone are starting to get major attention from clients.  
That said, the
US military, and other agencies have negotiated enterprise licensing from Oracle, and 
are fast
replacing their hodge-podge of FoxPro, Sybase, MSSQL, and other database products with 
Oracle as a
standard.

For those *nix aficionados who love to bash vulnerabilities in Microsoft products, I 
like to mention
that as a hosting provider who uses both platforms, of the security patches over the 
past month or
so, they have been coming more numerous on the Linux platform as new vulnerabilities 
are being
exposed.

All in all, the client is becoming much more sophisticated, and is reluctant to 
purchase whatever
technology that comes along unless there are compelling reasons, such as ROI and 
cost-effectiveness
inherent in the offering,.

For the developer, the market has changed in the past year or so from a seller's 
(developer) market
to a buyer's (client) market, and thus wages are dropping as there appear to be more 
developers
seeking work than there are clients looking for them.  Also they are looking for more 
multi-skilled
developers as opposed to gurus in only one software product.

Bottom line is that no one particular product will have the easy sledding as they have 
enjoyed in
the past. CF is a great product, don't give up on it yet!


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- Original Message -
From: Kris Pilles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


| Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position that I think
| many organizations are in.  We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
| over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it
| because of the growing popularity of .NET .  I really enjoy CF and love
| what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think
| that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to
| switch over to .NET entirely.  The biggest reason is .NET's ability to
| allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client,
| clinet server, web based etc...  This will allow our organization to
| have all of their programmers working on the same platform thus creating
| an internal community where everyone can help everyone else out and
| learn from each other..
|
| While CF is a great product, it can not offer this type of
| standardization to us.  I am a strong believer in CF and will continue
| to use it for development for my 

RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Bosky, Dave

Thanks cool but it only uses 'mailto' and I want to use CFMAIL, is this not
possible?

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

Rather than role your own, why not look at the code produced by
http://www.hivelogic.com/safeaddress/ ?

Tom Chiverton
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RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

There is also the UDF EmailAntiSpam(): http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=405

 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?
 
 
 Rather than role your own, why not look at the code produced by
 http://www.hivelogic.com/safeaddress/ ?
 
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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Jeff Whatcott

Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.

The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can scale across the full 
spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to the biggest mission-critical 
enterprise application.  And you also get true cross-platform deployment and 
industry-leading rich client technology that is light years ahead of anything else out 
there.

We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!) combo delivers all 
the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers critical flexibility than you 
don't get going with a single vendor.

Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure technology and we will 
continue to offer products that integrate with and take advantage of it.  Hence the 
COM and web services support in CFMX, the .NET support in Flash Remoting MX, etc.  At 
the end of the day, we're not religious about this platform or that platform, we just 
want to pragmatically solve customer problems.

We believe that as you really dig into the details, you'll find that continuing to 
have ColdFusion in your mix will pay off in the long run.  

Jeff W.

-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position that I think
many organizations are in.  We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it
because of the growing popularity of .NET .  I really enjoy CF and love
what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think
that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to
switch over to .NET entirely.  The biggest reason is .NET's ability to
allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client,
clinet server, web based etc...  This will allow our organization to
have all of their programmers working on the same platform thus creating
an internal community where everyone can help everyone else out and
learn from each other..

While CF is a great product, it can not offer this type of
standardization to us.  I am a strong believer in CF and will continue
to use it for development for my personal business sites as well as any
development I contract but in a corporate enviroment where many
different applications are being developed and supported, I have no
solid reasons as to why we shouldn't switch to .NET

KP

-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.

Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're
really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall
installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list
of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/

Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world,
the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following
are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:

http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19languageid=1
http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com

We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and
are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when
they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of
too!

In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding the
CF market:

*Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as
makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits
of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered
by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the
Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or
their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release of
CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will
enjoy this huge leap forward.

*We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them
be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings:
www.macromedia.com/desdev

*We're tappiing into new markets for CF:

-With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to
CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to CF
readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities.

-Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not

RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

Individual selects are virtually idiot-proof, but I think they're too
annoying. Why don't you test the input with IsDate()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: entering time
 
 
 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event 
 start time.
  
 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance 
  
 Tim Laureska
  
 
 
 
 
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OT: Cart-32 public/private key issue?

2002-10-16 Thread Kris Pilles

Anyone have any issues with generating keys...??? We have a client using
cart32 and I can generate the keys fine here and view all encrypted data
without a problem but  The site owner cannot

I am wondering if it has to do with him being behind his linksys
router

Any ideas loopholes etc...

Thanks

Kris Pilles
Website Manager
Western Suffolk BOCES
507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
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RE: MX + ArcIMS

2002-10-16 Thread Haggerty, Mike

You see my problem, the client is sold on CFMX, not ArcIMS 4.x. We have no
budget for upgrading that product, and I imagine I am not the only one in
that boat.

M

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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: MX + ArcIMS


It depends on the release-date of ArcIMS 4.01, which ESRI claims should
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RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX

2002-10-16 Thread todd

I wrote a CFC that interfaces with HTMLDoc:
http://blog.web-rat.com/archives/33.html#33


On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Dave Wilson wrote:

 Joshua,
 
 You could try htmldoc, a very powerful html to pdf convertor utility, which
 works via the Command line and is free. http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc
 
 There's excellent flexibility and documentation with this product. I don't
 work for them, but I've used htmldoc for over 2 years now for all sorts of
 things, from creating personalised custom car brochures on the fly, to
 invoicing, or simply converting a brochureware site to a pdf booklet.
 
 I began using it when using CF4.5 which had some problems with its cfexecute
 tag, so I've used the CFX_execute tag available from the tag gallery,
 eversince.
 
 HTH,
 Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 15 October 2002 19:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX
 
 
 I can't get HTML2PDF3 to work with CFMX ... I get a java.io.IOException
 error. The documentation seems a bit flaky too ... It refers to using
 the path to the executable wihtout the .exe or filename, then the sample
 file uses the full path and filename to the executable - it errors
 either way, using the sample file right out of the ZIP or modifying it
 as the directions say it should work. It generates the HTML templates,
 then doesn't convert - it errors when accessing the executable file.
 
 Anyone know of anything else? Or anyone have any experience with
 HTML2PDF3 on CFMX?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric G. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: PDF to HTML on-the-fly
 
 
 At 01:37 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 There is the html2pdf3 tag in the gallery that works quite well.  And
 its free.
 
 Sam
 
 Here's something that I ran across that doesn't seem to work (at least I
 
 couldn't make it work with MX).
 
 I don't have the author attribution easily available, but I'm sure I
 could
 find it if anyone is interested.
 
 In any case, I'd be interested if someone knows how to make something
 like
 this work (a situation where you can use form inputs to populate PDF
 form
 fields and present the pdf to the end user or mail it or whatever).
 
 I'll list the entire set of instructions below.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 EGM
 
 
 
 PDF Form Fields  How To
 This example was done with Adobe 5 and Word 2K
 
 1.  Create the .doc or .dot as you require.
 2.  Save it as a .pdf using Adobe
 3.  Open the pdf with Adobe
 4.  Add the form fields.  This is done by clicking on the form tool
 and
 placing the field where you want it.
 
 In my example the grid is turned on (CTRL U) or by clicking on View|Grid
 The grid settings are adjusted by clicking on Edit|General|Layout Grid.
 In
 this case, the width and height between lines is .25” with two
 subdivisions.
 
 5.  Right-click on the field, then on “Properties”.  Next click on
 “Options”.
 6.  In the example, the first field is called “today” and the
 default
 is called #todayDate#.  This will be a variable name a little later.
 The
 “Type” is text. This is the default.
 7.  The second field in the example is done the same way.
 8.  Save the pdf.
 9.  Next, click on “File|Export|Form Data” and save the exported
 form
 (This is the .fdf) to the same directory as the pdf.
 10.  Now, start ColdFusion studio and open the fdf this way:  Click
 on
 File|Open|All Files.  You will see a warning that this is an
 File|Open|unrecognized
 text file.  Click on “Open”, anyway.
 11.   Place a CFOUTPUT tag right before the first % sign in the
 fdf
 and a /CFOUTPUT immediately after the EOF at the end of the fdf.  The
 example shows you where.  Spaces before or after the tags will generate
 errors.
 12.  In the area where you see  “/F (sampledoc.pdf)/ID” (without the
 
 quotes) add an URL path before the filename, such as
 “http://servername/directory structure/filename” (without the quotes).
 See
 the example.  Where you see servername above, you can use localhost or
 an
 IP address.
 13. Save the file.
 14.  Open a new CF template and add the code per the example.  Save
 it.
 15.   You sre ready to go.
 
 
 NOTES:   1.  Adobe will not preserve your source document margins.
 2.  The text in the Adobe document will not be in exactly the place
 as
 the source document.  To get
   Adobe to put things where you want them, you have to “play” with
 the
 source document.
 3.  You CANNOT open the fdf with Adobe. You will get an error.  Open it
 with CF Studio.
 
 
 
 The FDF looks like this:
 
 cfoutput%FDF-1.2
 %âãÏÓ
 1 0 obj
 
 /FDF  /Fields [  /V (#fieldcontent#)/T (fieldcontent)  /V
 (#todayDate#)/T (today)
 ]
 /F (http://master/dqa/adobe/sampledoc.pdf)/ID [
 c2331da405f412d95820b8849ee5fb590f5bb617ffcfb2e18a1dd497cd3c2b18
 ] 
  
 endobj
 trailer
 
 /Root 1 0 R
 
  
 %%EOF
 /cfoutput
 
 
 
 

Re: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread Gyrus

- Original Message -
From: Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I want to urlencode email addresses in my CF code to prevent email
 harvesting and seem to have trouble sending email when the address is
 encoded.
 ---
 CFMAIL
TO=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 FROM=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 SUBJECT=Test-Encoded
 TYOE=html
 Test
 /CFMAIL
 ---
---

Why do you need to encode the TO attribute of CFMAIL? If the address is in a
completely encoded form in a link on a web page, the address should be
decoded in the act of clicking it, I believe. If not, no need to encode,
it's all on the server.

You only need to encode email addresses that are sent to the browser as part
of an HTML page. There's a UDF on cflib.org (EmailAntiSpam()?) that encodes
the characters as character entities, seems to work well...

Gyrus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX

2002-10-16 Thread todd

It doesn't support css at all.  And, the only thing you can do to handle 
format is to use basic tables.  Download HTMLDoc and try it out, it has a 
gui format that you can use to check out what it actually renders.

~Todd


On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Joshua Miller wrote:

 Thanks for the info ... I found the HTML doc site earlier and actually -
 HTML2PDF3 uses HTMLDOC ... It's a small world ;) I got the HTML2PDF3 tag
 to work finally, but it hoses the formatting, no matter what parameters
 I pass it. 
 
 My question for you about HTMLDOC is this: If I transform formatted HTML
 into PDF, how well does HTMLDOC handle the transformation? I read that
 it doesn't support HTML4 or CSS, how do you handle formatting? All HTML3
 ?
 
 Thanks for your input,
 
 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:02 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX
 
 
 Joshua,
 
 You could try htmldoc, a very powerful html to pdf convertor utility,
 which works via the Command line and is free.
 http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc
 
 There's excellent flexibility and documentation with this product. I
 don't work for them, but I've used htmldoc for over 2 years now for all
 sorts of things, from creating personalised custom car brochures on the
 fly, to invoicing, or simply converting a brochureware site to a pdf
 booklet.
 
 I began using it when using CF4.5 which had some problems with its
 cfexecute tag, so I've used the CFX_execute tag available from the tag
 gallery, eversince.
 
 HTH,
 Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 15 October 2002 19:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: HTML2PDF3 on CFMX
 
 
 I can't get HTML2PDF3 to work with CFMX ... I get a java.io.IOException
 error. The documentation seems a bit flaky too ... It refers to using
 the path to the executable wihtout the .exe or filename, then the sample
 file uses the full path and filename to the executable - it errors
 either way, using the sample file right out of the ZIP or modifying it
 as the directions say it should work. It generates the HTML templates,
 then doesn't convert - it errors when accessing the executable file.
 
 Anyone know of anything else? Or anyone have any experience with
 HTML2PDF3 on CFMX?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joshua Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric G. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: PDF to HTML on-the-fly
 
 
 At 01:37 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 There is the html2pdf3 tag in the gallery that works quite well.  And 
 its free.
 
 Sam
 
 Here's something that I ran across that doesn't seem to work (at least I
 
 couldn't make it work with MX).
 
 I don't have the author attribution easily available, but I'm sure I
 could find it if anyone is interested.
 
 In any case, I'd be interested if someone knows how to make something
 like this work (a situation where you can use form inputs to populate
 PDF form fields and present the pdf to the end user or mail it or
 whatever).
 
 I'll list the entire set of instructions below.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 EGM
 
 
 
 PDF Form Fields  How To
 This example was done with Adobe 5 and Word 2K
 
 1.  Create the .doc or .dot as you require.
 2.  Save it as a .pdf using Adobe
 3.  Open the pdf with Adobe
 4.  Add the form fields.  This is done by clicking on the form tool
 and
 placing the field where you want it.
 
 In my example the grid is turned on (CTRL U) or by clicking on View|Grid
 The grid settings are adjusted by clicking on Edit|General|Layout Grid.
 In this case, the width and height between lines is .25” with two
 subdivisions.
 
 5.  Right-click on the field, then on “Properties”.  Next click on
 “Options”.
 6.  In the example, the first field is called “today” and the
 default
 is called #todayDate#.  This will be a variable name a little later. The
 “Type” is text. This is the default.
 7.  The second field in the example is done the same way.
 8.  Save the pdf.
 9.  Next, click on “File|Export|Form Data” and save the exported
 form
 (This is the .fdf) to the same directory as the pdf.
 10.  Now, start ColdFusion studio and open the fdf this way:  Click
 on
 File|Open|All Files.  You will see a warning that this is an 
 File|Open|unrecognized
 text file.  Click on “Open”, anyway.
 11.   Place a CFOUTPUT tag right before the first % sign in the
 fdf
 and a /CFOUTPUT immediately after the EOF at the end of the fdf.  The
 example shows you where.  Spaces before or after the tags will generate
 errors.
 12.  In the area where you see  “/F (sampledoc.pdf)/ID” (without the
 
 quotes) add an URL path before the filename, such as
 “http://servername/directory structure/filename” (without the quotes).
 See the example.  Where you see servername above, you can use localhost
 or an IP address.
 13. Save the 

RE: Printing the colours from DreamweaverMX

2002-10-16 Thread Benoit Hediard

I think that this is a known bug in DWMX.
You can't print code in colour.

Benoit Hediard
#affinitiz.com

-Message d'origine-
De : James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : mercredi 16 octobre 2002 15:38
À : CF-Talk
Objet : Printing the colours from DreamweaverMX


Does anyone know if there is anyway to get DreamweaverMX to print the code
in colour (as it displays) or are we stuck with black and white?

--
James Smith
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RE: percentage of hits

2002-10-16 Thread Robert Orlini

Thanks for all the help Everett and Tony!

Robert O.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: percentage of hits


#numberFormat(Variablehere,'_.__')#

.tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: percentage of hits


Thanks Everett. I got it running. One more question...anyway to just
display 3.06% and not all extra numbers?

Robert O.

-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: percentage of hits


cfset percentOfVisits=visits / total_visits * 100

490 is 3.0625% of 16,000

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: percentage of hits
 
 
 Using SUM (I think) how can I get a percentage when comparing 
 it to a total? For example if #visits# is 490 and 
 #total_visits# is 16000. What is the code to extract the 
 percentage of 490 out of 16000?
 
 Below is part of my code:
 
 cfquery name=getsomedata datasource=log_stats
 select url, count(url) as 'visits' from log_data
 group by url
 order by visits desc
 /cfquery 
 
 cfquery name=datacount datasource=log_stats
 Select Count(*) AS total_count FROM log_data
 /cfquery
 
 cfoutput query=datacount#total_count#/cfoutput
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robert Orlini
 HWW
 
 
 



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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

yep and store your date as a Julian integer.I cant really say why, I
just like doing it :-)

-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 14:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: entering time


Individual selects are virtually idiot-proof, but I think they're too
annoying. Why don't you test the input with IsDate()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: entering time
 
 
 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event 
 start time.
  
 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance 
  
 Tim Laureska
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Tim Laureska

Ok... wasn't aware of that function, but it sounds good then I
assume a text box would be OK?? (with supplying data entry person with
entry format ex.  5/11/02)


-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: entering time

Individual selects are virtually idiot-proof, but I think they're too
annoying. Why don't you test the input with IsDate()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: entering time
 
 
 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event 
 start time.
  
 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance 
  
 Tim Laureska
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Kris Pilles

I can just throw ColdFusion out the window we have a lot of applications
that need to be converted so we will be using it for quite a while...

What I envision is using CF for quick or small projects that have to
much overhead... A great example is a project I am finishing up now...
We need to write out a bunch of text files from records sets from
oracle... A pain in the a** to do in ASP or .net but with CF it's a
breeze.

I would like to keep it around for things like that and any flash data
work we do but outside of that I don't see it being a major part of any
of our enterprise applications.

As I said before personally I will ocntinue to use CF for my business
and ecommerce sites. I love the product but I just think that the .NET
stuff has the edge at this time... For Microsoft orgainzations that
is...

One decision my company just made is to give up on UNIX and oracle and
switch enitrelly to micrososft world SQL server all NT servers and all
NET development... The prinicipal is great

1 company 
1 development platform
1 programming team that all knows the same stuff

But having been at other 100% microsoft organizations I have seen
what happens when you put all of your eggs in 1 basket.

I think getting rid of Oracle on AIX  Linux is a big mistake for us...
Especially in favor of  NT based SQL server... Especially after we've
already bought oracle and set it up and have it running without issue...
But that's a separate issue.

But the big decision maker was the ability to roll out our apps in
multiple formats...

If CF allowed up that then it would be a no brainer to stay with CF..

KP





 



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Whatcott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.

The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can scale
across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to the
biggest mission-critical enterprise application.  And you also get true
cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology
that is light years ahead of anything else out there.

We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!) combo
delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers
critical flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor.

Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure
technology and we will continue to offer products that integrate with
and take advantage of it.  Hence the COM and web services support in
CFMX, the .NET support in Flash Remoting MX, etc.  At the end of the
day, we're not religious about this platform or that platform, we just
want to pragmatically solve customer problems.

We believe that as you really dig into the details, you'll find that
continuing to have ColdFusion in your mix will pay off in the long run.


Jeff W.

-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position that I think
many organizations are in.  We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it
because of the growing popularity of .NET .  I really enjoy CF and love
what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think
that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to
switch over to .NET entirely.  The biggest reason is .NET's ability to
allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client,
clinet server, web based etc...  This will allow our organization to
have all of their programmers working on the same platform thus creating
an internal community where everyone can help everyone else out and
learn from each other..

While CF is a great product, it can not offer this type of
standardization to us.  I am a strong believer in CF and will continue
to use it for development for my personal business sites as well as any
development I contract but in a corporate enviroment where many
different applications are being developed and supported, I have no
solid reasons as to why we shouldn't switch to .NET

KP

-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.

Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're
really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall
installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list
of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing:

Re: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread jon hall

Loading and saving is something cffile does pretty well. XML is a
string, cfset does a pretty good job of changing it. Why do you need a
parser even?

FYI: MsXML can load and save files fine as well.
cfscript
objXMLDOM = CreateObject(COM, msxml2.DOMDocument.4.0);
objXMLDOM.async = false;
objXMLDOM.load(c:\path\foo.xml);
writeOutput(objXMLDom.xml);
objXMLDOM.save(c:\path\bar.xml);
/cfscript


-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 5:36:57 AM, you wrote:
RRNR then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.



RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
RRNR Sent: 16 October 2002 10:34
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


RRNR It returns a CF structure, you won't find a parser that will edit a packet I
RRNR don't think, it's easy enough to recreate it anyway.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
RRNR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
RRNR Sent: 16 October 2002 10:14
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


RRNR can it read in an XML file and copy an edited XML packet back out to the
RRNR file UNTOUCHED?

RRNR This is my problemeven the cf_xmlparser seems only 1-way.

RRNR N

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Re: URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

 URLEncoding email address to stop email harvesting?

 I want to urlencode email addresses in my CF code to prevent email
 harvesting and seem to have trouble sending email when the address is
 encoded.
 ---
 CFMAIL
 TO=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 FROM=%64%61%76%65%2E%62%6F%73%6B%79%40%68%74%63%69%6E%63%2E%6E%65%74
 SUBJECT=Test-Encoded
 TYOE=html
 Test
 /CFMAIL
 ---
 Will I have to pass the encode email address to a script that will decode
 it
 before sending the mail?

There's no significant reason why you should need or want to pass a
URLEncoded email address to a cfmail tag like this -- there's no way that
a web-spider could ever see the cfmail tag or its contents ( well -- there
are ways, but they require the CF Server to be _broken_ first, in which case
the solution is to fix the server, which you're going to be working on very
fervently anyway ) ... Sure it's possible to URLEncode email addresses
before they enter the database, however, I would probably stay away from
that approach and simply URLEncode any email addresses which end up
displayed on the public pages of your website, i.e.

a href=mailto:#urlencodedformat(myquery.email)#Send Us Email/a

I'm not certain but I think placing the values outside the href, i.e. betwee
a and /a in urlencodedformat may also be somewhat problematic.


hth

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

well, COM, I have heard can be pretty heavy on the server I understand
what you are saying in principle, but in practice...? have you got an
example?

N

-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


Loading and saving is something cffile does pretty well. XML is a
string, cfset does a pretty good job of changing it. Why do you need a
parser even?

FYI: MsXML can load and save files fine as well.
cfscript
objXMLDOM = CreateObject(COM, msxml2.DOMDocument.4.0);
objXMLDOM.async = false;
objXMLDOM.load(c:\path\foo.xml);
writeOutput(objXMLDom.xml);
objXMLDOM.save(c:\path\bar.xml);
/cfscript


-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 5:36:57 AM, you wrote:
RRNR then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.



RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
RRNR Sent: 16 October 2002 10:34
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


RRNR It returns a CF structure, you won't find a parser that will edit a
packet I
RRNR don't think, it's easy enough to recreate it anyway.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
RRNR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
RRNR Sent: 16 October 2002 10:14
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


RRNR can it read in an XML file and copy an edited XML packet back out to
the
RRNR file UNTOUCHED?

RRNR This is my problemeven the cf_xmlparser seems only 1-way.

RRNR N


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Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Fregas

I have to make one comment here.

rant
I really dislike DreamweaverMX.  I think the interface is nice and its
convenient to have the editor and designer all in one product.  That said,
the software CRAWLS on my 1.4ghz 256mb AMD XP machine and also is a little
buggy.  I still have the bug where it prompts me that the date of the file
on the server is newer than the local.  Saving files locally or thru RDS or
thru FTP is very slow, even with my DSL connection and ATA100 hard drive.
Editing tags, listing files and even stuff as simple as right clicking are a
bit sluggish.  I should NOT be suffering performance problems on this
machine.  If you are in fact listening to us Macromedia, you need to fix
this product so that us homesite/cfstudio developers can expect the same
stability and performance that we had before (or better.)
/rant

Thanks,
Craig



- Original Message -
From: Vernon Viehe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


 The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
 on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.

 Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is around
12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're really only
about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall installed CF base
is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list of existing CF sites
we use for PR/marketing:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/

 Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world, the
list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following are a few
of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:

 http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
 http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19languageid=1
 http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
 http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
just plain HTML)
 http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com

 We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and are
in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when they go
live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of too!

 In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding the
CF market:

 *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as makes
CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits of
deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered by CF.
It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the Java
platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or their CF
developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release of CF for some,
but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will enjoy this huge leap
forward.

 *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them be
successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings:
www.macromedia.com/desdev

 *We're tappiing into new markets for CF:

 -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to CF.
While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to CF readily
because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities.

 -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not
trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers.
Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are moving
into the dynamic application/web app development space in droves.
Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its built in
server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter learning
curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for these new
application developers.

 *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work
more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering one-stop shopping
for industry leading technologies. This also means that we can deliver well
integrated technologies, and better information for those who are
integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked to remain
somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many (most) of these
innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms.

 Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of everything we
offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these areas as they
begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring additional technologies
 skills into their shops.

 It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and fixes
and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board are not
mutually exclusive. We've already released one CFMX updater, and another is
fortcoming.

 Macromedia is fully behind ColdFusion and ColdFusion developers. Yes,
there is definately room for improvement, as is evidenced by some of the
more lively discussion on this list recently. But we do listen to and
incorporate to 

RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Deeds, Dave

Just curious here, but why not WDDX. We are just beginning to explore using
XML to bring some data into CF, and it seemed to me that WDDX was the
perfect answer. In our case the XML is generated by an internal server,
which I grab with CFHTTP and then use WDDX to create a query set for further
manipulation and display.

Being new to XML, I don't know if WDDX is good or bad but it does work.
Are there pitfalls or concerns that I am missing here?


Dave Deeds
Idaho Power Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.
 
 
 

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'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
application? 

My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no other
user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the action on
it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
.

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Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Fregas

I'm not sure about Coldfusion MX, but using COM with Coldfusion 5 to connect
to .NET is a beast.  Data just doesn't flow in two directions very well
between these.  Web Services cannot always be used (for performance
reasons.)  I'd like to see better integration with CFMX and .NET in the
future, not simply relying on Microsoft's COM Interop capabilities.  I don't
feel like MM actually did any work to integrate with .NET.  They just kept
their existing COM support.

Craig

- Original Message -
From: Jeff Whatcott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


 Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.

 The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can scale
across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to the
biggest mission-critical enterprise application.  And you also get true
cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology that
is light years ahead of anything else out there.

 We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!) combo
delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers critical
flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor.

 Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure technology
and we will continue to offer products that integrate with and take
advantage of it.  Hence the COM and web services support in CFMX, the .NET
support in Flash Remoting MX, etc.  At the end of the day, we're not
religious about this platform or that platform, we just want to
pragmatically solve customer problems.

 We believe that as you really dig into the details, you'll find that
continuing to have ColdFusion in your mix will pay off in the long run.

 Jeff W.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

 Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position that I think
 many organizations are in.  We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
 over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it
 because of the growing popularity of .NET .  I really enjoy CF and love
 what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think
 that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to
 switch over to .NET entirely.  The biggest reason is .NET's ability to
 allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client,
 clinet server, web based etc...  This will allow our organization to
 have all of their programmers working on the same platform thus creating
 an internal community where everyone can help everyone else out and
 learn from each other..

 While CF is a great product, it can not offer this type of
 standardization to us.  I am a strong believer in CF and will continue
 to use it for development for my personal business sites as well as any
 development I contract but in a corporate enviroment where many
 different applications are being developed and supported, I have no
 solid reasons as to why we shouldn't switch to .NET

 KP

 -Original Message-
 From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:25 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


 The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
 on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.

 Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
 around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're
 really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall
 installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list
 of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/

 Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world,
 the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following
 are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:

 http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
 http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19languageid=1
 http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
 http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
 just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com

 We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and
 are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when
 they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of
 too!

 In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding the
 CF market:

 *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as
 makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits
 of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered
 by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the
 Java 

RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

yes, I am / and have used WDDX frequently over the years.  In fact I am
using it for this project now as its quick, reliable and easily manipulated!



-Original Message-
From: Deeds, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


Just curious here, but why not WDDX. We are just beginning to explore using
XML to bring some data into CF, and it seemed to me that WDDX was the
perfect answer. In our case the XML is generated by an internal server,
which I grab with CFHTTP and then use WDDX to create a query set for further
manipulation and display.

Being new to XML, I don't know if WDDX is good or bad but it does work.
Are there pitfalls or concerns that I am missing here?


Dave Deeds
Idaho Power Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.
 
 
 


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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Mike Townend

Wrap it with a named lock ?

HTH



-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 15:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 'Locking' a process


Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
application? 

My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no
other user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the
action on it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another
process.) .

Neil

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Re: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Stephen Moretti

You could use a named cflock I believe

Stephen
- Original Message -
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:15 PM
Subject: 'Locking' a process


 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
 application?

 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no
other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
 .

 Neil
 
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Re: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event start time.

 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance

Users are liable to find multiple drop-downs frustrating. For that matter,
single drop-downs can be very frustrating if they are especially long. For
instance, you don't want to have an event start date drop-down with one
entry for every minute of the day -- one entry for every five minutes is
even likely to be frustrating.

If you can assume that any given start or end time for an event will only
occur between certain hours and on the half or quarter hour ( i.e. from 9-5
mon-fri, every half hour ), then you might be able to get a drop down to a
reasonable size that users won't be horribly frustrated by them. In this
setup, I can double-tap the 2 key on my keyboard and instantly hit 2:30, so
it's actually fairly convenient ( more so than a text field ).

In failing that, the next best thing is probably going to be a text field.
You can validate this with javascript to make sure the text is in the format
HH:mm, however, you should also validate this on the server-side (
server-side validation really should be performed for anything, if for no
other reason to be certain the javascript conveniences are working properly
)... Something like this should generally work fairly well to determine if
what is entered is a valid time:

cfset mytime = listtoarray(form.starttime,:)
cfif arraylen(mytime) neq 2
or not isnumeric(mytime[1])
or not isnumeric(mytime[2])
or mytime[1] lt 1
or mytime[1] gt 24
or mytime[2] lt 1
or mytime[2] gt 59
cfthrow type=custom message=Invalid start time
/cfif

Of course, there are regex methods of checking this and the like, i.e.

cfif not REFindNoCase([0-2]?[0-9]:[0-9]{2,2},form.starttime)
or listgetat(form.starttime,1,:) gt 24
or listgetat(form.starttime,2,:) gt 59
cfthrow ...
/cfif

It all depends on what you're comfortable with of course...

If you're not familiar with Regular Expressions ( the 2nd example ) and want
more info, there's also a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list which has some
fairly knowledgeable people on it, including Mike Dinowitz who maintains the
house of fusion. :)


hth

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Re: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Greg Bullough

How about doing CFLOCK and using a named lock?

Greg

At 03:15 PM 10/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
application?

My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no other
user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the action on
it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
.

Neil

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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Mike Brunt

Kris, Jeff said this better than I but I can't see how putting everything
into Microsoft and .NET gives you the ability to roll out our apps in
multiple formats.  CF is far more cross platform than .NET overall.

What intrigues me about many of the threads in recent weeks and months
intimate that Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire has disadvantaged
ColdFusion somehow (I know you are not saying that I'm just jumping on your
thrust Kris). I worked for Allaire (and enjoyed it immensely) I was laid of
by Macromedia so could have an axe to grind.  Yet my feeling going back to
the main point of this thread is this is a great time for CF and all of us
who have CF expertise. And Macromedia are listening to us!

Two things excite me in particular, the growing integration with Flash and
the amount of marketing muscle being applied to CF by IBM. As always IMHO.

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Webapper Services LLC
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255

Making the NET Work

-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


I can just throw ColdFusion out the window we have a lot of applications
that need to be converted so we will be using it for quite a while...

What I envision is using CF for quick or small projects that have to
much overhead... A great example is a project I am finishing up now...
We need to write out a bunch of text files from records sets from
oracle... A pain in the a** to do in ASP or .net but with CF it's a
breeze.

I would like to keep it around for things like that and any flash data
work we do but outside of that I don't see it being a major part of any
of our enterprise applications.

As I said before personally I will ocntinue to use CF for my business
and ecommerce sites. I love the product but I just think that the .NET
stuff has the edge at this time... For Microsoft orgainzations that
is...

One decision my company just made is to give up on UNIX and oracle and
switch enitrelly to micrososft world SQL server all NT servers and all
NET development... The prinicipal is great

1 company
1 development platform
1 programming team that all knows the same stuff

But having been at other 100% microsoft organizations I have seen
what happens when you put all of your eggs in 1 basket.

I think getting rid of Oracle on AIX  Linux is a big mistake for us...
Especially in favor of  NT based SQL server... Especially after we've
already bought oracle and set it up and have it running without issue...
But that's a separate issue.

But the big decision maker was the ability to roll out our apps in
multiple formats...

If CF allowed up that then it would be a no brainer to stay with CF..

KP









-Original Message-
From: Jeff Whatcott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.

The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can scale
across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to the
biggest mission-critical enterprise application.  And you also get true
cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology
that is light years ahead of anything else out there.

We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!) combo
delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers
critical flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor.

Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure
technology and we will continue to offer products that integrate with
and take advantage of it.  Hence the COM and web services support in
CFMX, the .NET support in Flash Remoting MX, etc.  At the end of the
day, we're not religious about this platform or that platform, we just
want to pragmatically solve customer problems.

We believe that as you really dig into the details, you'll find that
continuing to have ColdFusion in your mix will pay off in the long run.


Jeff W.

-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position that I think
many organizations are in.  We've been priamrilly a CF house for well
over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it
because of the growing popularity of .NET .  I really enjoy CF and love
what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think
that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to
switch over to .NET entirely.  The biggest reason is .NET's ability to
allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client,
clinet server, web based etc...  This will allow our organization to
have all of their programmers 

RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robert Everland

I use soXML here
http://www.dixonusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=company.company_stockquote I
haven't had any issues with it. Remember it uses the xml com object to do
its work. So if you're having trouble with it, it may just be a bad com
object.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com 

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


yes, I am / and have used WDDX frequently over the years.  In fact I am
using it for this project now as its quick, reliable and easily manipulated!



-Original Message-
From: Deeds, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


Just curious here, but why not WDDX. We are just beginning to explore using
XML to bring some data into CF, and it seemed to me that WDDX was the
perfect answer. In our case the XML is generated by an internal server,
which I grab with CFHTTP and then use WDDX to create a query set for further
manipulation and display.

Being new to XML, I don't know if WDDX is good or bad but it does work.
Are there pitfalls or concerns that I am missing here?


Dave Deeds
Idaho Power Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.
 
 
 



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Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Greg Bullough

At 09:13 AM 10/16/02 -0500, Fregas wrote:
.  If you are in fact listening to us Macromedia,

Ahem. Ha. Ah ha ha. Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha.

Phew!

Dream on.

Macromedia is perfect. They don't need to listen to customers. They
know what is good for us.

They will, however, on occasion explain how the problems we are
experiencing aren't really problems, and how our issues aren't really
issues.

you need to fix
this product so that us homesite/cfstudio developers can expect the same
stability and performance that we had before (or better.)

Historically, Studio has had ever-increasing bloat problems, so it doesn't
surprise me that when you HAVE to have it and Dreamweaver BOTH turned
on, things start to get wonky.

Greg

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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

OK, probably didnt make myself clear enough, my mistake...(I am aware of the
cflock)

I obviously want this to happen at the system level, but what I want is an
abstraction above that...i.e. I am editing a file names XXX.xml, I do not
want anyone else to come into the system and edit this file without them
being 'aware' that I have it openedyou see what I mean?

N


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 'Locking' a process


You could use a named cflock I believe

Stephen
- Original Message -
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:15 PM
Subject: 'Locking' a process


 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
 application?

 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no
other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
 .

 Neil
 

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Re: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread jon hall

Everything previous to MX that I did that involved XML I do with
MSXML. I've got lots of examples, ups and usps among them, but I don't
know if they would be applicable. I'm still not sure why you need a
parser...

If all you need to do is load an file from the HD, edit it, and save
the results, and you have total control over the format of the file
wddx may work perfectly for you.


Saying COM is heavy on the server is a over generalizing it to the
point of it being FUD. A hello world com object is going to be pretty
fast no matter if it was programmed by the latest VB hack to get their
MCSE or a C++ veteran. MSXML would be one of the heavier COM objects
though.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, October 16, 2002, 10:11:58 AM, you wrote:
RRNR well, COM, I have heard can be pretty heavy on the server I understand
RRNR what you are saying in principle, but in practice...? have you got an
RRNR example?

RRNR N

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
RRNR Sent: 16 October 2002 15:11
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: Re: soXML - Flawed


RRNR Loading and saving is something cffile does pretty well. XML is a
RRNR string, cfset does a pretty good job of changing it. Why do you need a
RRNR parser even?

RRNR FYI: MsXML can load and save files fine as well.
RRNR cfscript
RRNR objXMLDOM = CreateObject(COM, msxml2.DOMDocument.4.0);
RRNR objXMLDOM.async = false;
RRNR objXMLDOM.load(c:\path\foo.xml);
RRNR writeOutput(objXMLDom.xml);
RRNR objXMLDOM.save(c:\path\bar.xml);
RRNR /cfscript

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RE: flash integration w/ cfml custom tags

2002-10-16 Thread Raymond Camden

The name is Developing Rich Internet Applications - and I still feel it
is an _amazing_ course. I can't recommend it enough.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ciliotta, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: flash integration w/ cfml custom tags
 
 
 Raymond,
 
 What is the name of the course?
 
 Mario
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: flash integration w/ cfml custom tags
 
 
 Ok, earlier this week we had a big discussion about the new 
 course MACR
 is offering. The course focuses on aspects of Flash that are 
 relevant to
 coder type folks. Ben Forta mentioned how he used Flash to 
 easily create
 a simple multi-select item where he could select an item on the left
 side and have it prepopulate items on the right side.



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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

Use a semaphore or lock file. When someone grabs addams.xml for editing,
write a really small file called addams.lck to the same directory. When done
processing, delete the addams.lck file. Change the process to look for the
existence of a filename.lck file and if one exists deny access to the
filename.xml file.

You'll need to have a method of clearing old locks, in case someone abandons
the process in the middle. The timestamp on the filename.lck file should
be sufficient. I'd think a lock file over eight hours old ought to be
considered ignorable.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:16 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
 application? 
 
 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
 contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
 process so no other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
 the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
 .
 
 Neil
 
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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Rich Wild

sounds like he's got an xml file open for editing though. I think he's
talking about locking it so that noone else can go into the file and edit it
at the same time (ie implementing a client side lock not a server side lock)

I guess you could flick a bit column between 1 and 0. If a user starts
editing the file, hit the db and set the column to 1 (meaning the file is
locked). Everytime someone else hits the page, check the db to see if the
file is locked. If it is, don't allow them to open the file.

Once the first user has finished and saves the changes, flick the bit column
back to 0 to allow others read/write access.

Also, you may want to create some sort of maximum lock time (as users may
start editing a file and never finish, thus locking everyone else out
forever)

To do this, create a timestamp of the current time when a user starts
editing the file and have a scheduled job running on your db to re-unlock
the file after a set period of time etc... Obviously there's a little bit
more thought required to it than that, but you get the idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 How about doing CFLOCK and using a named lock?
 
 Greg
 
 At 03:15 PM 10/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process 
 within an
 application?
 
 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
 contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
 process so no other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
 the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
 .
 
 Neil
 
 
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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

What's the IBM push of CF you make reference of??

I assume that deal with Websphere running with CF?


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-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:35:44 -0700
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

 Kris, Jeff said this better than I but I can't see how putting
 everything
 into Microsoft and .NET gives you the ability to roll out our apps
 in
 multiple formats.  CF is far more cross platform than .NET overall.
 
 What intrigues me about many of the threads in recent weeks and
 months
 intimate that Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire has disadvantaged
 ColdFusion somehow (I know you are not saying that I'm just jumping
 on your
 thrust Kris). I worked for Allaire (and enjoyed it immensely) I was
 laid of
 by Macromedia so could have an axe to grind.  Yet my feeling going
 back to
 the main point of this thread is this is a great time for CF and all
 of us
 who have CF expertise. And Macromedia are listening to us!
 
 Two things excite me in particular, the growing integration with
 Flash and
 the amount of marketing muscle being applied to CF by IBM. As always
 IMHO.
 
 Mike Brunt - CTO
 Webapper Services LLC
 http://www.webapper.com
 Downey CA Office
 562.243.6255
 
 Making the NET Work
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
 
 
 I can just throw ColdFusion out the window we have a lot of
 applications
 that need to be converted so we will be using it for quite a while...
 
 What I envision is using CF for quick or small projects that have to
 much overhead... A great example is a project I am finishing up
 now...
 We need to write out a bunch of text files from records sets from
 oracle... A pain in the a** to do in ASP or .net but with CF it's a
 breeze.
 
 I would like to keep it around for things like that and any flash
 data
 work we do but outside of that I don't see it being a major part of
 any
 of our enterprise applications.
 
 As I said before personally I will ocntinue to use CF for my business
 and ecommerce sites. I love the product but I just think that the
 .NET
 stuff has the edge at this time... For Microsoft orgainzations that
 is...
 
 One decision my company just made is to give up on UNIX and oracle
 and
 switch enitrelly to micrososft world SQL server all NT servers and
 all
 NET development... The prinicipal is great
 
 1 company
 1 development platform
 1 programming team that all knows the same stuff
 
 But having been at other 100% microsoft organizations I have seen
 what happens when you put all of your eggs in 1 basket.
 
 I think getting rid of Oracle on AIX  Linux is a big mistake for
 us...
 Especially in favor of  NT based SQL server... Especially after we've
 already bought oracle and set it up and have it running without
 issue...
 But that's a separate issue.
 
 But the big decision maker was the ability to roll out our apps in
 multiple formats...
 
 If CF allowed up that then it would be a no brainer to stay with CF..
 
 KP
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Whatcott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
 
 
 Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.
 
 The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can
 scale
 across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to
 the
 biggest mission-critical enterprise application.  And you also get
 true
 cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology
 that is light years ahead of anything else out there.
 
 We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!)
 combo
 delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers
 critical flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor.
 
 Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure
 technology and we will continue to offer products that integrate with
 and take advantage of it.  Hence the COM and web services support in
 CFMX, the .NET support in Flash Remoting MX, etc.  At the end of the
 day, we're not religious about this platform or that platform, we
 just
 want to pragmatically solve customer problems.
 
 We believe that as you really dig into the details, you'll find that
 continuing to have ColdFusion in your mix will pay off in the long
 run.
 
 
 Jeff W.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
 
 Interesting to find some of this out.  We are in a position 

RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

soXML is no use as although it says it can load, and save an xml file - it
cant.  not successfully anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:27
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


I use soXML here
http://www.dixonusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=company.company_stockquote I
haven't had any issues with it. Remember it uses the xml com object to do
its work. So if you're having trouble with it, it may just be a bad com
object.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com 

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


yes, I am / and have used WDDX frequently over the years.  In fact I am
using it for this project now as its quick, reliable and easily manipulated!



-Original Message-
From: Deeds, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


Just curious here, but why not WDDX. We are just beginning to explore using
XML to bring some data into CF, and it seemed to me that WDDX was the
perfect answer. In our case the XML is generated by an internal server,
which I grab with CFHTTP and then use WDDX to create a query set for further
manipulation and display.

Being new to XML, I don't know if WDDX is good or bad but it does work.
Are there pitfalls or concerns that I am missing here?


Dave Deeds
Idaho Power Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.
 
 
 




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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

excellent idea...indeed, superb.  I see what I can knock up; 

-Original Message-
From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process


Use a semaphore or lock file. When someone grabs addams.xml for editing,
write a really small file called addams.lck to the same directory. When done
processing, delete the addams.lck file. Change the process to look for the
existence of a filename.lck file and if one exists deny access to the
filename.xml file.

You'll need to have a method of clearing old locks, in case someone abandons
the process in the middle. The timestamp on the filename.lck file should
be sufficient. I'd think a lock file over eight hours old ought to be
considered ignorable.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:16 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
 application? 
 
 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
 contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
 process so no other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
 the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
 .
 
 Neil
 

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Re: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Stephen Moretti

ermm...

Create a .lck file like DW does and check for its existance before
processing.
Have a DB table with a lock flag.

Just a couple that come immediately to mind.

Stephen

- Original Message -
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process


 OK, probably didnt make myself clear enough, my mistake...(I am aware of
the
 cflock)

 I obviously want this to happen at the system level, but what I want is an
 abstraction above that...i.e. I am editing a file names XXX.xml, I do not
 want anyone else to come into the system and edit this file without them
 being 'aware' that I have it openedyou see what I mean?

 N


 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: 'Locking' a process


 You could use a named cflock I believe

 Stephen
 - Original Message -
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:15 PM
 Subject: 'Locking' a process


  Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
  application?
 
  My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
  edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no
 other
  user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the action
on
  it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
  .
 
  Neil
 

 
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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

cheers Rich, I did think of this, but the files has no reference in the DB -
it doesnt need one for this... I think writing a lock file (.lck) is the
way to go :-)



-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 15:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process


sounds like he's got an xml file open for editing though. I think he's
talking about locking it so that noone else can go into the file and edit it
at the same time (ie implementing a client side lock not a server side lock)

I guess you could flick a bit column between 1 and 0. If a user starts
editing the file, hit the db and set the column to 1 (meaning the file is
locked). Everytime someone else hits the page, check the db to see if the
file is locked. If it is, don't allow them to open the file.

Once the first user has finished and saves the changes, flick the bit column
back to 0 to allow others read/write access.

Also, you may want to create some sort of maximum lock time (as users may
start editing a file and never finish, thus locking everyone else out
forever)

To do this, create a timestamp of the current time when a user starts
editing the file and have a scheduled job running on your db to re-unlock
the file after a set period of time etc... Obviously there's a little bit
more thought required to it than that, but you get the idea.

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 How about doing CFLOCK and using a named lock?
 
 Greg
 
 At 03:15 PM 10/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process 
 within an
 application?
 
 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
 contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
 process so no other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
 the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
 .
 
 Neil
 
 

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CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread John Blayter

I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution
http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Rich Wild

hmm, I really like this. Better than my db idea in this instance

nice one.

 -Original Message-
 From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:41
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 Use a semaphore or lock file. When someone grabs addams.xml 
 for editing,
 write a really small file called addams.lck to the same 
 directory. When done
 processing, delete the addams.lck file. Change the process to 
 look for the
 existence of a filename.lck file and if one exists deny 
 access to the
 filename.xml file.
 
 You'll need to have a method of clearing old locks, in case 
 someone abandons
 the process in the middle. The timestamp on the 
 filename.lck file should
 be sufficient. I'd think a lock file over eight hours old ought to be
 considered ignorable.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:16 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: 'Locking' a process
  
  
  Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a 
 process within an
  application? 
  
  My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
  contents can be
  edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
  process so no other
  user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
  the action on
  it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
  .
  
  Neil
  
 
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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

Woo-hoo! I win!

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 cheers Rich, I did think of this, but the files has no 
 reference in the DB -
 it doesnt need one for this... I think writing a lock file 
 (.lck) is the
 way to go :-)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 sounds like he's got an xml file open for editing though. I think he's
 talking about locking it so that noone else can go into the 
 file and edit it
 at the same time (ie implementing a client side lock not a 
 server side lock)
 
 I guess you could flick a bit column between 1 and 0. If a user starts
 editing the file, hit the db and set the column to 1 (meaning 
 the file is
 locked). Everytime someone else hits the page, check the db 
 to see if the
 file is locked. If it is, don't allow them to open the file.
 
 Once the first user has finished and saves the changes, flick 
 the bit column
 back to 0 to allow others read/write access.
 
 Also, you may want to create some sort of maximum lock time 
 (as users may
 start editing a file and never finish, thus locking everyone else out
 forever)
 
 To do this, create a timestamp of the current time when a user starts
 editing the file and have a scheduled job running on your db 
 to re-unlock
 the file after a set period of time etc... Obviously there's 
 a little bit
 more thought required to it than that, but you get the idea.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 16 October 2002 15:29
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: 'Locking' a process
  
  
  How about doing CFLOCK and using a named lock?
  
  Greg
  
  At 03:15 PM 10/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
  Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process 
  within an
  application?
  
  My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
  contents can be
  edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
  process so no other
  user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
  the action on
  it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
  .
  
  Neil
  
  
 
 
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RE: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread jtwilker

I used it without problems. the application Downloaded an XML file and parsed
it using soXML. Not a single complaint other than slowness, which is why I
eventually just went directly to the COM object.

I wouldn't call it useless by any stretch. It got us up and parsing in now
time, and gave us time to create our own solution in the interim.

J.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:42:39 +0100 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 soXML is no use as although it says it can
 load, and save an xml file - it
 cant.  not successfully anyway.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Everland
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:27
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 I use soXML here
 http://www.dixonusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=company.company_stockquote
 I
 haven't had any issues with it. Remember it
 uses the xml com object to do
 its work. So if you're having trouble with it,
 it may just be a bad com
 object.
 
 Robert Everland III
 Web Developer Extraordinaire
 Dixon Ticonderoga Company
 http://www.dixonusa.com 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:23 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 yes, I am / and have used WDDX frequently over
 the years.  In fact I am
 using it for this project now as its quick,
 reliable and easily manipulated!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Deeds, Dave
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:15
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
 Just curious here, but why not WDDX. We are
 just beginning to explore using
 XML to bring some data into CF, and it seemed
 to me that WDDX was the
 perfect answer. In our case the XML is
 generated by an internal server,
 which I grab with CFHTTP and then use WDDX to
 create a query set for further
 manipulation and display.
 
 Being new to XML, I don't know if WDDX is good
 or bad but it does work.
 Are there pitfalls or concerns that I am
 missing here?
 
 
 Dave Deeds
 Idaho Power Company
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:37 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
  
  
  then its useless. looks like, as I
 said...its WDDX.
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Rich Wild

I agree. The lock file idea is more applicable.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 cheers Rich, I did think of this, but the files has no 
 reference in the DB -
 it doesnt need one for this... I think writing a lock file 
 (.lck) is the
 way to go :-)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 sounds like he's got an xml file open for editing though. I think he's
 talking about locking it so that noone else can go into the 
 file and edit it
 at the same time (ie implementing a client side lock not a 
 server side lock)
 
 I guess you could flick a bit column between 1 and 0. If a user starts
 editing the file, hit the db and set the column to 1 (meaning 
 the file is
 locked). Everytime someone else hits the page, check the db 
 to see if the
 file is locked. If it is, don't allow them to open the file.
 
 Once the first user has finished and saves the changes, flick 
 the bit column
 back to 0 to allow others read/write access.
 
 Also, you may want to create some sort of maximum lock time 
 (as users may
 start editing a file and never finish, thus locking everyone else out
 forever)
 
 To do this, create a timestamp of the current time when a user starts
 editing the file and have a scheduled job running on your db 
 to re-unlock
 the file after a set period of time etc... Obviously there's 
 a little bit
 more thought required to it than that, but you get the idea.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Greg Bullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 16 October 2002 15:29
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: 'Locking' a process
  
  
  How about doing CFLOCK and using a named lock?
  
  Greg
  
  At 03:15 PM 10/16/02 +0100, you wrote:
  Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process 
  within an
  application?
  
  My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
  contents can be
  edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
  process so no other
  user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
  the action on
  it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
  .
  
  Neil
  
  
 
 
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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

It harkens back to my days as a BBS SysOp. At the time, multitasking was
just getting into swing on PCs, but most of the third-party applications
(read: games) were strictly single thread. Letting two people into an
application at one time would cause all kinds of havok.

It's also used all over. Access *.ldb files, for instance.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:41 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
 
 
 hmm, I really like this. Better than my db idea in this instance
 
 nice one.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 16 October 2002 15:41
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: 'Locking' a process
  
  
  Use a semaphore or lock file. When someone grabs addams.xml 
  for editing,
  write a really small file called addams.lck to the same 
  directory. When done
  processing, delete the addams.lck file. Change the process to 
  look for the
  existence of a filename.lck file and if one exists deny 
  access to the
  filename.xml file.
  
  You'll need to have a method of clearing old locks, in case 
  someone abandons
  the process in the middle. The timestamp on the 
  filename.lck file should
  be sufficient. I'd think a lock file over eight hours old 
 ought to be
  considered ignorable.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:16 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: 'Locking' a process
   
   
   Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a 
  process within an
   application? 
   
   My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose 
   contents can be
   edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this 
   process so no other
   user can overwrite the data while another user is performing 
   the action on
   it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)
   .
   
   Neil
   
  
 
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RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread Tony Weeg

are they href'ed to a name or an actual link to a page?

meaning is it like this 

area href=#bottom

or like this?

area href=top.cfm

if it's the previous do this...

area href=##bottom

if it's the second one.

je ne sais pas :) je m'excuse.

..tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Is not generating entire page


I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution
http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Mike Brunt

Yes Paris, http://www-3.ibm.com/software/webservers/coldfusionmx/

They are also doing seminars on this around the US.

Mike Brunt - CTO
Webapper Services LLC
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255

Making the NET Work

-Original Message-
From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


What's the IBM push of CF you make reference of??

I assume that deal with Websphere running with CF?


Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
http://www.pubcrawler.com
412-292-3135
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]


-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:35:44 -0700
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

 Kris, Jeff said this better than I but I can't see how putting
 everything
 into Microsoft and .NET gives you the ability to roll out our apps
 in
 multiple formats.  CF is far more cross platform than .NET overall.

 What intrigues me about many of the threads in recent weeks and
 months
 intimate that Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire has disadvantaged
 ColdFusion somehow (I know you are not saying that I'm just jumping
 on your
 thrust Kris). I worked for Allaire (and enjoyed it immensely) I was
 laid of
 by Macromedia so could have an axe to grind.  Yet my feeling going
 back to
 the main point of this thread is this is a great time for CF and all
 of us
 who have CF expertise. And Macromedia are listening to us!

 Two things excite me in particular, the growing integration with
 Flash and
 the amount of marketing muscle being applied to CF by IBM. As always
 IMHO.

 Mike Brunt - CTO
 Webapper Services LLC
 http://www.webapper.com
 Downey CA Office
 562.243.6255

 Making the NET Work

 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


 I can just throw ColdFusion out the window we have a lot of
 applications
 that need to be converted so we will be using it for quite a while...

 What I envision is using CF for quick or small projects that have to
 much overhead... A great example is a project I am finishing up
 now...
 We need to write out a bunch of text files from records sets from
 oracle... A pain in the a** to do in ASP or .net but with CF it's a
 breeze.

 I would like to keep it around for things like that and any flash
 data
 work we do but outside of that I don't see it being a major part of
 any
 of our enterprise applications.

 As I said before personally I will ocntinue to use CF for my business
 and ecommerce sites. I love the product but I just think that the
 .NET
 stuff has the edge at this time... For Microsoft orgainzations that
 is...

 One decision my company just made is to give up on UNIX and oracle
 and
 switch enitrelly to micrososft world SQL server all NT servers and
 all
 NET development... The prinicipal is great

 1 company
 1 development platform
 1 programming team that all knows the same stuff

 But having been at other 100% microsoft organizations I have seen
 what happens when you put all of your eggs in 1 basket.

 I think getting rid of Oracle on AIX  Linux is a big mistake for
 us...
 Especially in favor of  NT based SQL server... Especially after we've
 already bought oracle and set it up and have it running without
 issue...
 But that's a separate issue.

 But the big decision maker was the ability to roll out our apps in
 multiple formats...

 If CF allowed up that then it would be a no brainer to stay with CF..

 KP









 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Whatcott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?


 Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.

 The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can
 scale
 across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to
 the
 biggest mission-critical enterprise application.  And you also get
 true
 cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology
 that is light years ahead of anything else out there.

 We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!)
 combo
 delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers
 critical flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor.

 Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure
 technology and we will continue to offer products that integrate with
 and take advantage of it.  Hence the COM and web services support in
 CFMX, the .NET support in Flash Remoting MX, etc.  At the end of the
 day, we're not religious about this platform or that platform, we
 just
 want to pragmatically solve customer problems.

 We believe that as 

Re: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Tim Laureska wrote:

 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event start time.

 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance 

Personally, I prefer to use 2 text fields separated by a colon. Each 
textfield can hold 2 numbers and since a 24 hour clock is standard there 
is no need for an AM/PM field. Throw in some javascript so both fields 
have an onFocus behaviour that selects their content. Both easy to 
validate and easy to use.

Jochem

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Re: soXML - Flawed

2002-10-16 Thread Stephen Moretti

Yeah - soXML does a great job, if you're importing XML or exporting XML.

However,  if you import XML with soXML into a struct, do some processing
with that struct, then write the struct back out to an XML file then things
start to go a bit squirlley

soXML always wants to add a rootname, even if the struct already has one.
soXML creates a struct variable called value with the contents from
between open/close tags.  When soXML writes the XML back it creates a nested
tag called VALUE within your XML tags, therefore invalidating your XML.
eg. myTagContent/myTag  becomes myTag.value = Content becomes
myTagvalueContent/value/myTag

To add to that soXML doesn't seem to handle node type 2 (attributes) eg.
myTag attr1=something / attr1 appears to go missing during import

Not much, but enough to be troublesome.

Stephen

- Original Message -
From: Robert Everland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


 I use soXML here
 http://www.dixonusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=company.company_stockquote I
 haven't had any issues with it. Remember it uses the xml com object to do
 its work. So if you're having trouble with it, it may just be a bad com
 object.

 Robert Everland III
 Web Developer Extraordinaire
 Dixon Ticonderoga Company
 http://www.dixonusa.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:23 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


 yes, I am / and have used WDDX frequently over the years.  In fact I am
 using it for this project now as its quick, reliable and easily
manipulated!



 -Original Message-
 From: Deeds, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 15:15
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed


 Just curious here, but why not WDDX. We are just beginning to explore
using
 XML to bring some data into CF, and it seemed to me that WDDX was the
 perfect answer. In our case the XML is generated by an internal server,
 which I grab with CFHTTP and then use WDDX to create a query set for
further
 manipulation and display.

 Being new to XML, I don't know if WDDX is good or bad but it does work.
 Are there pitfalls or concerns that I am missing here?


 Dave Deeds
 Idaho Power Company
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:37 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: soXML - Flawed
 
 
  then its useless. looks like, as I said...its WDDX.
 
 
 



 
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RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread John Blayter

Here is the code for the imagemap.


map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


are they href'ed to a name or an actual link to a page?

meaning is it like this 

area href=#bottom

or like this?

area href=top.cfm

if it's the previous do this...

area href=##bottom

if it's the second one.

je ne sais pas :) je m'excuse.

.tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Is not generating entire page


I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

I don't think he's validating date input in this instance, although you
raise a good point, and something that didn't occur to me in my last post:

cftry
cfset mytime =
CreateTime(ListFirst(form.starttime,:),ListLast(form.starttime,:),0)
cfcatchinvalid date/cfcatch
/cftry

There isn't any IsTime function, although I suppose on CF5 or MX you could
write this into a UDF... though for performance you probably wouldn't want
to use cftry in the UDF ( it's not possible on CF 5 ).

function IsTime(timestring) {
var delim = :;
var rexp = ^[0-2]?[0-9]:[0-5][0-9](:[0-5][0-9])?(a|p|am|pm)?$;

timestring = REReplace(timestring,[[:space:]],,ALL);
if (not REFindNoCase(rexp,timestring)) { return false; }

if (listfirst(timestring,delim) gt 24) { return false; }
else if (REFindNoCase([ap],timestring)
and listfirst(timestring,delim) gt 12) { return false; }
else { return true; }
}

This is probably a better solution than my previous post ( assuming CF 5+ )
since it's horribly portable, and allows you to use this function over and
over for start and end event times, etc. throughout your app. I suspect
you'll want to use something like this in at least 2 places, which probably
makes it worthwhile.

Theoretically this test would determine whether or not you could pass the
timestring variable to timeformat() to produce whatever standard time format
you want.


hth

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046

 Individual selects are virtually idiot-proof, but I think they're too
 annoying. Why don't you test the input with IsDate()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: entering time


 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event
 start time.

 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance

 Tim Laureska





 
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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Everett, Al

 ... since a 24 hour clock is standard there is no need for an AM/PM field.

It's my experience that most Merkins don't do well with 24-hour clocks.
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RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread Tony Weeg

strange...it works fine on my cfmx box, 
and displays the whole page fine.

here is what the view source produced

snip

map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

/snip


is it dying for you right @ the ##top part?

any error info in your view source if you view source?

..tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


Here is the code for the imagemap.


map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


are they href'ed to a name or an actual link to a page?

meaning is it like this 

area href=#bottom

or like this?

area href=top.cfm

if it's the previous do this...

area href=##bottom

if it's the second one.

je ne sais pas :) je m'excuse.

tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Is not generating entire page


I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
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RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread Tony Weeg

actually this will work for me fine on the same pagenot double
##'ing it

map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=#top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

explain that one!

..tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


Here is the code for the imagemap.


map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


are they href'ed to a name or an actual link to a page?

meaning is it like this 

area href=#bottom

or like this?

area href=top.cfm

if it's the previous do this...

area href=##bottom

if it's the second one.

je ne sais pas :) je m'excuse.

tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Is not generating entire page


I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
__




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repost: CF MX Debug option screws up javascript

2002-10-16 Thread D. Delcomminette INGECOM

Posted this a couple of days but didn’t have any real answer. It is a real
issue … any clues anybody ??



I have an application page in which a button opens a form with simple
Javascript functions in a new browser window . Everything works fine in CF5
and even CFMX if I disable the debug output. Whenever I allow the debug
output in MX (classic or dockable) I get a Javascript error stating that a
check box object does not exist …!!  Having a look at the HTML source of
this window, they are similar up to the point where CFMX debugging info
starts … meaning my code has not been altered 
Have any of you already seen something similar ?

Many Thanks

Dominique



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RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread Tony Weeg

and you can see it working fine here...

http://tony.navtrak.net/poundtest.cfm

so, I wonder what else may be the problem for ya?

..tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


strange...it works fine on my cfmx box, 
and displays the whole page fine.

here is what the view source produced

snip

map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

/snip


is it dying for you right @ the ##top part?

any error info in your view source if you view source?

.tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


Here is the code for the imagemap.


map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP
area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank
area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46 href=/subscribe_form.cfm
/map

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


are they href'ed to a name or an actual link to a page?

meaning is it like this 

area href=#bottom

or like this?

area href=top.cfm

if it's the previous do this...

area href=##bottom

if it's the second one.

je ne sais pas :) je m'excuse.

tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Is not generating entire page


I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
__





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RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

You can certainly try. :) The testing I did was on CF 5 and it seemed to
produce a similar result. I'd actually be really interrested to see time
results that indicate a situation in which a try-catch block is less
expensive than any equivalent non-try-catch codeblock.

 Mike

 Thanks for the reply, can I confirm that this is only relevant to CFMX
 And that with CF5 there is no performance hit involved in heavy use of
 try catch blocks?

 Thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 15 October 2002 15:31
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
 implemented?)

 The try isn't too expensive, but the catch can be. However, running a
 bunch of trys within a loop can also degrade performance.

 The catch generates significant overhead when an exception is thrown
 because a copy of the stack has to be created.

 a quick search of google turns up:

 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/javaqa/2001-07/04-qa-0727-try.html


 http://ccm.redhat.com/doc/core-platform/5.0/engineering-standards/perfor
 mance-optimization.html#Exceptions

 there is also a good discussion of it in:

 Java Performance Tuning published by O'Reilly.

 In general, you should not use try / catch for flow control.

 hope that helps...

 mike chambers

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  -Original Message-
  From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:33 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
  CFMX J2EE implemented?)
 
 
  Hi
 
  Sean, have I missed something, are you saying try and catch add a
  significant performance overhead?
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Kola
 
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   From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 15 October 2002 02:08
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How
  is CFMX J2EE
   implemented?)
  
  
   try/catch is a pretty heavy operation - you should only use it
 for
   (unexpected) error cases, not normal operation...
  
 
 
 
 


 
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RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page

2002-10-16 Thread John Blayter

If you view the source of http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ you'll see
where the page stops. 

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


actually this will work for me fine on the same pagenot double
##'ing it

map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=#top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46
href=/subscribe_form.cfm /map

explain that one!

.tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


Here is the code for the imagemap.


map name=Map
area shape=rect coords=32,63,159,84 href=##top alt=BACK TO TOP
title=BACK TO TOP area shape=poly
coords=193,82,207,73,312,72,310,47,343,26,378,47,380,71,386,76,370,93,1
93,93 href=http://www.drurygoldkey.com; alt=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB:
FREQUENT TRAVELERS title=DRURY GOLD KEY CLUB: FREQUENT TRAVELERS
target=_blankarea shape=poly
coords=373,94,395,74,490,74,492,46,496,32,521,28,548,33,555,50,557,73,5
66,82,566,93 href=http://www.druryinnercircle.com; alt=DRURY INNER
CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS title=DRURY INNER CIRCLE: LODGING PLANNERS
target=_blank area shape=rect coords=30,8,201,46
href=/subscribe_form.cfm /map

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Is not generating entire page


are they href'ed to a name or an actual link to a page?

meaning is it like this 

area href=#bottom

or like this?

area href=top.cfm

if it's the previous do this...

area href=##bottom

if it's the second one.

je ne sais pas :) je m'excuse.

tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Is not generating entire page


I am having a very weird problem with CFMX not generating the entire
page. It is stopping half way through a image map at the bottom of the
page. I have CF5 in our development environment and it works just fine [
http://drury.dev-sites.com/careers/ ]. However on the production MX
machine it stops half way through the second area tag in the image
map. [ http://www.druryhotels.com/careers/ ] 

Here is what I have done so far to try and fix this.
- Applied the CFMX Updater
- Placed the code for the image map on a single line of code
- Cleared the compiled *.class files and restarted the server

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

__
John Blayter
Technical Director
Interactive Sites, Inc.
The Online Hospitality Solution http://www.interactivesites.com/
Phone: 480.707.1600
Fax: 480.707.1601
__





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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

Easy mathematical evaluation? :)

 yep and store your date as a Julian integer.I cant really say why, I
 just like doing it :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 14:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: entering time


 Individual selects are virtually idiot-proof, but I think they're too
 annoying. Why don't you test the input with IsDate()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: entering time


 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event
 start time.

 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance

 Tim Laureska






 
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Re: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
 application?

 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no
 other
 user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the action on
 it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another process.)

Tapestry does this with all the content records -- they're flagged in the db
as in use by user [x] with privelegdes [RWED] -- if another user has a
record open with more than R privilege, other users get only R privilege,
regardless of their role or permissions, until the first user closes the
record.

Let me know if you'd like a more thorough explanation of how it's
accomplished.


S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

as Penry, the mild mannered Janitor would say... COULD BE

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 16:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: entering time


Easy mathematical evaluation? :)

 yep and store your date as a Julian integer.I cant really say why, I
 just like doing it :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Everett, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 October 2002 14:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: entering time


 Individual selects are virtually idiot-proof, but I think they're too
 annoying. Why don't you test the input with IsDate()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: entering time


 Can anyone make a suggestion on the best/standard way to setup data
 entry for time.. Specifically for a entry field for an event
 start time.

 I've thought about a text box, but that would seem to allow too many
 mistakes for the data entry person.. I've considered drop down select
 boxes for hour, AM/PM and minutes.. But there must be a standard, best
 way to do this for database entry using CF (or maybe even javascript)
 Thanks in advance

 Tim Laureska






 

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RE: 'Locking' a process

2002-10-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

Problem with a named lock is it's only available for the short time that a
single cfmodule is accessing that file -- I _think_ he's talking about
something more like a source-control check-in/check-out idea.

 Wrap it with a named lock ?

 HTH



 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 15:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: 'Locking' a process


 Anyone got any ideas on how to do a pseudo lock on a process within an
 application?

 My example is that I am reading from an .xml file whose contents can be
 edited and then updated.  I want to be able to lock this process so no
 other user can overwrite the data while another user is performing the
 action on it (or at least flag the fact that its open by another
 process.) .

 Neil

 
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RE: entering time

2002-10-16 Thread Thomas Chiverton

  ... since a 24 hour clock is standard there is no need for an
 AM/PM field.

 It's my experience that most Merkins don't do well with 24-hour clocks.

It's my experience that most Merkins don't know how long it takes the Earth
to go round the Sun.

But let's not start that.

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