Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway?
Welcome. Glad to know it's appreciated. :) Good writing, thanks. Yep, Hal Helms has been a big proponent of OO for a while. He was working with a language called SmallTalk iirc prior to ColdFusion which was an OO language. And that probably also has a lot to do with his relationship to the new Mach-II framework which was originally intended to be labelled Fusebox MX before Hal decided to keep Fusebox as a proecural framework. I'm not sure if Hal kept it procedural for the sake of other developers or just because he suddenly had a lot of really great ideas about how to improve the existing framework. I'm a pretty big fan of OO concepts myself -- code reuse is a big part of OO, but more importantly, OO divides code reuse into several different avenues, most notably inheritance and interfaces. I think of OO code reuse as meta-code reuse -- it's less that you're reusing entire chunks of code (like a custom tag or a function) than that you're reusing bits and pieces of a large chunk (a class or object), while you suppress or replace other chunks on an as-needs basis. In some cases, such as with interfaces and polymorphism you may not even be reusing code per-se, but rather reusing the content the code manipulates, or the code's meta-structure while the guts of it have been entirely rewritten. OO functionality can often be created even when the language isn't inherently OO itself (virtual OO you might say). See for instance cfObjects.com which is a competing framework, although now that CFMX includes CFC's, there seems to be little call for cfObjects in general. Fusebox itself doesn't have any (that I'm aware of) built-in model for inheritance, interfaces or polymorphism, which are the staples of OO. Did Hal intend to steer the community toward OO? It's conceivable, although I don't think that's the case. Otherwise I think Hal's recommendations likely would have much more closely resembled cfObjects. My own framework (I couldn't respond without mentionig it :) also includes a lot of built-in methods for reusing code and managing code reuse in a consistent manner. In particular, the tiered application, html header and local settings stages of an onTap framework request allow for code to be easily applied across an entire site, an entire section of a site, or within an individual page or process, using the logical directory names you would create for an application anyway, i.e. /members/forum/post/ for instance. Is it OO? No it's not. I don't think it needs to be. Does it have some similarities to OO? Yea, sure. But ultimately it's a procedural framework because it doesn't need to be OO to accomplish its goal of providing consistent code structure and a fast, flexible means of creating, maintaining and extending ColdFusion applications. Ultimately I think the choice of framework should depend more on the developers involved in a project and their needs (including the needs of the project) than on any particular ideology like OO. s. isaac dealey 972-490-6624 team macromedia volunteer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team chief architect, tapestry cmshttp://products.turnkey.to onTap is open sourcehttp://www.turnkey.to/ontap If the key benefit of FuseBox is about code-reuse, then, I would say, code-reuse is not unique to FuseBox.In the days before FuseBox, many of us were already practising code-reuse methodology. Probably the creator(s) of FuseBox were big into object-oriented programming, and wanted to steer the CFers towards that direction with FuseBox, but I could be totally wrong on this assumption. Don Li My very favorite feature with fusebox is only having to modify code in one place and it will apply to the entire site. Fusebox is a methodology, not a religion, therefore it is your option to develop web sites with reusable code or any other methodology that is acceptable between you and your client. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:54 PM Subject: RE: Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway? | I for one would love to see the arguments FOR using fusebox.I have been to the FB web site and I am not sure its worth the effort of learning a completely new mehtodology and reengineering my processes to fit someone elses model.I think that Dan's points are valid especially when it comes to creativity, but I am sure there are opinions, very good ones, pro FB.I just don`t see them. What I do see, is a lot of people posting questions about it on the forums that seem overly complicated, and honestly, the last thing i need is more complication in my Dev process. | | | |
RE: Application variables between two applications
Now, how could I call this same object from the differenct application? You would think since it is in memory, there has to be way that I can retreive it. You can use the underlying java of CF to get a hold of the application scope for any currently active application: cfscript // application tracker object appObj = createObject(java, coldfusion.runtime.ApplicationScopeTracker); // get external app scope appScope = appObj.getApplicationScope(myappname); /cfscript Note that this is undocumented and so could well change in a future release of CF.Also if the app name you give it doesn't exist it won't error - you'll just get a java null value back, which CF isn't too hot on handling... For more info on using the ApplicationScopeTracker and similar SessionTracker have a look at http://tech.badpen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=3 HTH, Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Ever growing single quotes (')
Yes, we've had that too, the solution we found was to use:
cfqueryparam cfsqltype=...
value=#preservesinglequotes(form.variable)#
Doesn;t help for all those records where theres already a load of single
quotes - but it should be easy enough to write an update query to get
rid of those.
Alex
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Ever growing single quotes (')
Has anybody ever experienced a problem, where if you update a
string in a SQL 2000 database with a cfqueryparam tag, each time the
string is updated, an additional single quote is appended to each single
quote in the string?
Start with the string
I'll just run to the store and get some milk.
Update it once and you get
I''ll just run .
Update it a second time you get
Ill just run
After not too many reputations of this, you can get an a
awefully long series of single quotes.
I can't see anyplace where this is obviouslly happening.The
form that contains the string doesn't show the new quotes, but it will
show the quotes the next time the record in viewed.
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Single-threaded server probs
Hi all, The server in question is implemented with Single Threaded Sessions (that's just the way it is :-) The problem with single threaded sessions (as I am sure you are aware) is that if a request is taking a little bit longer than usual, the user often tries clicking away from the screen, which of course just lines up another request against their session ID.This then generally brings the server down if the user is very click/trigger happy (guess we all want to be cowboys) as the requests just pile up and then... crash... Anybody got any (useful) insights on how to prevent this crash from happening with respect to the situations above?Any checking I can do it would be impossible to go back and retrofit apps (resource issues) so looking for a possible way to solve this generically. There are quite a few apps on the server and locking is not used much anywhere (again that's just the way it is, please don't moan to me about it unless it is def part of the solution) Comments would be appreciated. Thanks. -- -dc[ cf5, ora8.1.7, iis5 ] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Ever growing single quotes (')
Ian Skinner wrote: Has anybody ever experienced a problem, where if you update a string in a SQL 2000 database with a cfqueryparam tag, each time the string is updated, an additional single quote is appended to each single quote in the string? http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:29163:146482 http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish/ Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway?
Because of the code reuse in Fusebox I have saved substantial development time. sas Scott Stewart Web Application Developer, AMTI AIR-520 (202)-385-4545 Brainbench Certified Cold Fusion 4.5 Brainbench Certified HTML 3.2 S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 12/10/2003 02:33Subject:Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway? AM Please respond to cf-talk Welcome. Glad to know it's appreciated. :) Good writing, thanks. Yep, Hal Helms has been a big proponent of OO for a while. He was working with a language called SmallTalk iirc prior to ColdFusion which was an OO language. And that probably also has a lot to do with his relationship to the new Mach-II framework which was originally intended to be labelled Fusebox MX before Hal decided to keep Fusebox as a proecural framework. I'm not sure if Hal kept it procedural for the sake of other developers or just because he suddenly had a lot of really great ideas about how to improve the existing framework. I'm a pretty big fan of OO concepts myself -- code reuse is a big part of OO, but more importantly, OO divides code reuse into several different avenues, most notably inheritance and interfaces. I think of OO code reuse as meta-code reuse -- it's less that you're reusing entire chunks of code (like a custom tag or a function) than that you're reusing bits and pieces of a large chunk (a class or object), while you suppress or replace other chunks on an as-needs basis. In some cases, such as with interfaces and polymorphism you may not even be reusing code per-se, but rather reusing the content the code manipulates, or the code's meta-structure while the guts of it have been entirely rewritten. OO functionality can often be created even when the language isn't inherently OO itself (virtual OO you might say). See for instance cfObjects.com which is a competing framework, although now that CFMX includes CFC's, there seems to be little call for cfObjects in general. Fusebox itself doesn't have any (that I'm aware of) built-in model for inheritance, interfaces or polymorphism, which are the staples of OO. Did Hal intend to steer the community toward OO? It's conceivable, although I don't think that's the case. Otherwise I think Hal's recommendations likely would have much more closely resembled cfObjects. My own framework (I couldn't respond without mentionig it :) also includes a lot of built-in methods for reusing code and managing code reuse in a consistent manner. In particular, the tiered application, html header and local settings stages of an onTap framework request allow for code to be easily applied across an entire site, an entire section of a site, or within an individual page or process, using the logical directory names you would create for an application anyway, i.e. /members/forum/post/ for instance. Is it OO? No it's not. I don't think it needs to be. Does it have some similarities to OO? Yea, sure. But ultimately it's a procedural framework because it doesn't need to be OO to accomplish its goal of providing consistent code structure and a fast, flexible means of creating, maintaining and extending ColdFusion applications. Ultimately I think the choice of framework should depend more on the developers involved in a project and their needs (including the needs of the project) than on any particular ideology like OO. s. isaac dealey 972-490-6624 team macromedia volunteer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team chief architect, tapestry cmshttp://products.turnkey.to onTap is open sourcehttp://www.turnkey.to/ontap If the key benefit of FuseBox is about code-reuse, then, I would say, code-reuse is not unique to FuseBox.In the days before FuseBox, many of us were already practising code-reuse methodology. Probably the creator(s) of FuseBox were big into object-oriented programming, and wanted to steer the CFers towards that direction with FuseBox, but I could be totally wrong on this assumption. Don Li My very favorite feature with fusebox is only having to modify code in one place and it will apply to the entire site. Fusebox is a methodology, not a religion, therefore it is your option to develop web sites with reusable code or any other methodology that is acceptable between you and your client. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Gabriel Robichaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:54 PM Subject: RE: Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway? | I for one would love to see the arguments FOR using fusebox.I have been to the FB web site and I am not sure its worth the effort of learning a completely new mehtodology and
Re: Question about memory usage under a CFMX 6.2 environment
Thank you.That looks helpful, and certainly something I can use.I implemented this yet, but it looks pretty thorough. Michael S Hodgdon Web Development Project Manager 617 - 669 - 7183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave Carabetta To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Question about memory usage under a CFMX 6.2 environment I think my message needs clarification.I was thinking more on the variable assignment level.It would be nice to know how much memory each variable scope is absorbing. For instance: cfset server.test = test cfset application.test = test cfset session.test = test As you create variables in these scopes, memory must manage it.So I am wondering if there is a way to know how much memory is allocated to variable scopes.If you could get as granular as each scope that would be great, if not, a collective summary of all scopes would do. I have asked this question before Pre-MX and the response I received from the list is that CF does not work close enough to the hardware to truly know this as it is a security breach.CF is merely delivered a spot in which to reference where its variables sit, but has no other control over memory.At the time, that made sense.I was wondering if any changes have been made since MX has come along. This question comes from the idea that we would rather anticipate max memory issues prior to running an application in production. Does that clear the air a little? This may help: http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=967 Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Run HTML through CFMX
I know this is on the forum somewhere, but I don't think I am typing the right search term. So how do I get HTML to run through CFMX. I know it isn't the suggested way, but I need to do it. Thanks. bob [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Problems with PreserveSingleQuotes() WAS: Ever growing single quo tes (')
Trying to implement the solution provided by A.Little of using
PreserveSingleQuotes() in the value of my cfqueryparam's to prevent the
multiplication of single quotes(').
Is there some reason why the following forms is illegal?
PreserveSingleQuotes(trim(string))
OR
PreserveSingleQuotes(stringAry[i].key)
Both of these threw errors of illegal characters ( and [ respectively.
It seems you can not use other functions and/or array notation variables
inside a PreserveSingleQuotes() function.Is this by design or flaw?
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displaying the list items in a ticker
Hello Everybody, I have a comma separated list. I want to display the list item(s) one after the other something like a ticker, starting from list position one to the length of the list. Can someone please show me how to do this? Or atleast if someone point me to some link which has a similar kind of thing, that would be very helpful. Best Regards CF Coder __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: displaying the list items in a ticker
Are you asking for DHTML help (for the ticker) or just how to loop through the list? If you just need to loop through the list cfloop index=item list=#theList# cfoutput#item#/cfoutputbr /cfloop [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
losing client variables in mx6.1
There is a thread on the macr forums (http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=7threadid=384991) which seems to describe a problem we are now having: namely, that sometimes our client variables are getting lost. The short version: we are (intermittently) having the same problems described throughout this thread; we are on mx6.1, W2K. But we may have tracked this down: Can anyone confirm or deny that mx6.1 now creates cookies that truncate any domain beginning with more than 3 alpha-numeric characters? The longer version: We have several application environments: 1) 127.0.0.1 or localhost 2) dev.[app_name].[company_name].com 3) stage.[app_name].[company_name].com 4) www.[app_name].com The problem has crept up in situation #3, or #1 sometimes, where we would *occasionally* lose client variables. I could verify that the variables were getting stored in the database, but they would just be lost when the app tried to retrieve them via the cookie. On closer inspection, the cookies are being written out thusly: 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that for #3 (the stage example), the stage part of the domain is being cut off; likewise, if you use localhost for #1, that gets cut off. Needless to say, this makes it difficult for the cookies to be properly associated with their client variables. So: can anyone else verify this behavior? Is there any bug fix for this? Does it mean that in mx6.1, we can only use domain names with 3 leading alpha-numeric characters? Kelly Tetterton duo | Technical Lead One Web Company. Twice the Results. 312.224.9650 | main 312.224.9648 | direct 312.224.9651 | fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.duodesign.com duoDesign is a Web development and marketing firm that combines expertise in design, technology and online promotion to help businesses and organizations use the Internet marketing channel to greatest advantage. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Run HTML through CFMX
Use an include. cfinclude template=myfile.htm This is a pretty decent technique when you want to use an administrative form (in conjunction with CFFILE) to update static content i.e headers and footers or even long blocks of text. Jeremy I know this is on the forum somewhere, but I don't think I am typing the right search term. So how do I get HTML to run through CFMX. I know it isn't the suggested way, but I need to do it. Thanks. bob [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
no actually I'm asking for some DHTML help. The idea behind is that I call a webservice which returns a comma separated list of items, I then display each item in a div or somewhere in the browser one after the other. I don't have a clue how to do this. I'd appreciate your help Best Regards CF Coder Are you asking for DHTML help (for the ticker) or just how to loop through the list? If you just need to loop through the list cfloop index=item list=#theList# cfoutput#item#/cfoutputbr /cfloop [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: displaying the list items in a ticker
Sorry, I haven't worked in DHTML in ages. I'd much rather work in Flash. ;) As it stands, I bet if you Googled for dhtml ticker, you would probably find a bunch of scripts. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Run HTML through CFMX
I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. Bob Use an include. cfinclude template=myfile.htm This is a pretty decent technique when you want to use an administrative form (in conjunction with CFFILE) to update static content i.e headers and footers or even long blocks of text. Jeremy I know this is on the forum somewhere, but I don't think I am typing the right search term. So how do I get HTML to run through CFMX. I know it isn't the suggested way, but I need to do it. Thanks. bob [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Application variables between two applications
Thanks Tim! I will definitely try that out. Ricky _ From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Application variables between two applications Now, how could I call this same object from the differenct application? You would think since it is in memory, there has to be way that I can retreive it. You can use the underlying java of CF to get a hold of the application scope for any currently active application: cfscript // application tracker object appObj = createObject(java, coldfusion.runtime.ApplicationScopeTracker); // get external app scope appScope = appObj.getApplicationScope(myappname); /cfscript Note that this is undocumented and so could well change in a future release of CF.Also if the app name you give it doesn't exist it won't error - you'll just get a java null value back, which CF isn't too hot on handling... For more info on using the ApplicationScopeTracker and similar SessionTracker have a look at http://tech.badpen.com/index.cfm?mode=entry http://tech.badpen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=3 entry=3 HTH, Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Run HTML through CFMX
set up your webserver to run .htm / .html extensions through the CF app server. How to do this depends on the web server you are using. -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 10 december 2003 15:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Run HTML through CFMX I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. Bob [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Run HTML through CFMX
You make .htm or .html get parsed by CF in your web server.Then you add your security. How to do this depends on the web server. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Run HTML through CFMX I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. Bob Use an include. cfinclude template=myfile.htm This is a pretty decent technique when you want to use an administrative form (in conjunction with CFFILE) to update static content i.e headers and footers or even long blocks of text. Jeremy I know this is on the forum somewhere, but I don't think I am typing the right search term. So how do I get HTML to run through CFMX. I know it isn't the suggested way, but I need to do it. Thanks. bob _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Run HTML through CFMX
I seem to remember (from other people posting to this list) that there is an XML config file to tell CFMX it needs to handle it also. I'm thinking April-May-ish. Check the archives Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/03 10:14AM set up your webserver to run .htm / .html extensions through the CF app server. How to do this depends on the web server you are using. -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 10 december 2003 15:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Run HTML through CFMX I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. Bob [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Run HTML through CFMX
On Wednesday 10 Dec 2003 14:07 pm, Robert Everland III wrote: I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. :hmms You want to protext .htm file's via a CFML security system ? Keeping the existing HTML files intact ? Can you change the URI to files ? If so, then you can use what is basicaly SES to map /secure/this/file to /secure.cfm?what=/this/file If you can't, then you could configure the web server to treat .htm/.html as CFML files. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
I got this code from somewhere in the archive threads. HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=2TITLEMonitor/TITLE/HEAD BODY bgcolor=#FF background=""> CFSET TheList = #lName# TABLE TR br CFLOOP FROM=1 TO=1 STEP=1 INDEX=temp CFSET Position = RandRange(1,ListLen(TheList)) TDCFOUTPUT#ListGetAt(TheList,Position)#/CFOUTPUT/TD CFSET TheList = ListDeleteAt(TheList,Position) /CFLOOP /TR /TABLE /BODY /HTML When displayed on the page, the page refreshes every 2 seconds and randomly displays the list item. How do I make sure that all the items in the list are displayed, only repeating a list item once after all list items are displayed. how do I do that check? Sorry, I haven't worked in DHTML in ages. I'd much rather work in Flash. ;) As it stands, I bet if you Googled for dhtml ticker, you would probably find a bunch of scripts. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway?
Oh, I heartily agree! It is very important to always avoid making mistakes and knowing the future is the best way to achieve that. Or, in the words of former vice-President Dan Quayle, If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. SO in that sense I agree with your point.But you lost me a bit when you said: It seems to me the above goes without saying And I wish it had. - Original Message - From: Chunshen (Don) Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway? Nobody is waiting for a big project!While some small project may lead to a big project some other small one will never be able to turn into a big one.For instance, a project for a small business, but of course the small business owner may introduce you to his other business friends/associates etc. if he/she thinks that's not against his/her own interest and he/she feels like doing so.It seems to me the above goes without saying. About the database schema changed, you didn't get it right if you were referring to relational database (I'm not into OO db, not sure how popular OO db is anyway), it's not what framework or methodology you use, but rather how good the code is, which also requires hell lot of inner/deep knowledge of database. Respectfully, Don Li The funny part about waiting for a big project is that small projects can commonly turn into big projects over time, I'm working on a project right now, the start of it was to come up with one report based on a criteria screen.Now the customers are so pleased with it, they want to add worksheets, more reports and the entire project has totally expanded. When the call came to expand this, the other members of my team were worried about having to rework the entire framework, but because I started it in Fusebox 4, the transition has been very simple. I was able to add a lot of functionality without introducing bugs into the original areas (even though the database schema changed). Try it out on a small project, figure out how it works, when it comes time to do your big project (or transform your small project into a large one), you'll be glad you did. Sandy Clark _ From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway? Mike, I appreciate your thoughts and I agree I or one would invest time in Fusebox once a big project which heavily involves FB in one way or another is imminent. Best regards, Don I really think it depends on what sort of entity the web site is for and what they want.If you are dealing with organizations that want to use a recognized framework for web applications then I am not aware of anything that is as well distributed as Fusebox.Once we began using Fusebox (early on) we did not find any good reason not to carry on using it.Of course Don you are right many of the things Fusebox focuses on where already being used by the better CF developers but followed closely, Fusebox brings that sort of good practice to those who were not. One other point highlighted by Matt Liotta earlier in this thread, at Webapper we have seen the benefits of bringing in Fusebox developers to a Fusebox project mid-stream and were able to get them up to speed very quickly. I also think your point re an 'OO' type thinking is a thought although Fusebox is far from a true 'OO' entity.Mach-II gets much nearer but there are still limitations in CFC's that prevent CF from being a strict 'OO' language.Macromedia are using Mach-II for internal and I believe now one external part of their site.Sean Corfield of Macromedia has done a lot to improve Mach-II and has recently contributed to modifying the core after what he says was some fairly heavy load-testing of Mach-II.If you're interested you can find Sean's information on Mach-II here. http://www.corfield.org/index.php?fuseaction=machii.main Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 3:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Fusebox - whats the big deal anyway? If the key benefit of FuseBox is about code-reuse, then, I would say, code-reuse is not unique to FuseBox.In the days before FuseBox, many of us were already practising code-reuse methodology. Probably the creator(s) of FuseBox were big into object-oriented programming, and wanted to steer the CFers towards that direction with FuseBox, but I could be totally wrong on this assumption. Don Li My very favorite feature with fusebox is only having to modify code in one place and it will apply to the entire site. Fusebox is a methodology, not a religion, therefore it is your option to
OT: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
Hi, I will shortly be needed a UK based payment processor or a merchant account to start receiving CC payments via the web. Can anyone recommend good\cheap UK based 3rd party payment processors and well priced merchant accounts as well? Thanks in advance. Cheers Oliver [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Prism Antivirus in HOF footer...
Ha, right...should be: - user uploads file - virus scan - write to BLOB g - Original Message - From: Jim Davis To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:40 PM Subject: RE: Prism Antivirus in HOF footer... Well - for what it's worth I would hope that the file is checked for virus BEFORE it gets put in the database!;^) Jim Davis _ From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Prism Antivirus in HOF footer... Couldn't you do this?: - write from BLOB to temp file - virus scan - CFCONTENT Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Schuster, Steven To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: RE: Prism Antivirus in HOF footer... Ah yes but we write ours directly from a database BLOB and use the deletefile option to ensure it gets removed once it has been called so the file never really just sits out there. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
At 10:24 AM 10/12/2003 -0400, cf coder wrote: #ListGetAt(TheList,Position)# When displayed on the page, the page refreshes every 2 seconds and randomly displays the list item. How do I make sure that all the items in the list are displayed, only repeating a list item once after all list items are displayed. how do I do that check? Delete the item from the list when it's displayed? cfset DisplayItem=ListGetAt(TheList,Position) cfset tempVar=ListDeleteAt(TheList,Position) cfoutput#DisplayItem#/cfoutput (Of course, you'd want to save the original list so you could start over once you had finished one pass through the list.) T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer?Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Run HTML through CFMX
I wish it were that simple, but there is something that needs to be done in CF and I can't find it. Bob You make .htm or .html get parsed by CF in your web server.Then you add your security. How to do this depends on the web server. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Run HTML through CFMX I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. Bob Use an include. cfinclude template=myfile.htm This is a pretty decent technique when you want to use an administrative form (in conjunction with CFFILE) to update static content i.e headers and footers or even long blocks of text. Jeremy I know this is on the forum somewhere, but I don't think I am typing the right search term. So how do I get HTML to run through CFMX. I know it isn't the suggested way, but I need to do it. Thanks. bob _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
Www.secpay.co.uk They have a list of banks they work with On 10/12/03 3:29 pm, Oliver Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I will shortly be needed a UK based payment processor or a merchant account to start receiving CC payments via the web. Can anyone recommend good\cheap UK based 3rd party payment processors and well priced merchant accounts as well? Thanks in advance. Cheers Oliver [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
On Wednesday 10 Dec 2003 15:29 pm, Oliver Cookson wrote: recommend good\cheap UK based 3rd party payment processors and well priced merchant accounts as well? I've used Barclays merchent services twice in the past with good results. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
On Wednesday 10 Dec 2003 15:29 pm, Oliver Cookson wrote: recommend good\cheap UK based 3rd party payment processors and well priced merchant accounts as well? I'll chip in with one. Set a few accounts up for some clients a year or so ago and not had a peep of trouble out of any of them http://www.lloydstsbcardnet.com/ which effectively uses http://www.protx.com/ Cheers -- -dc[ cf5, ora8.1.7, iis5 ] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: OT: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
Www.secpay.co.uk They have a list of banks they work with Secpay are good - they've got a Java interface into their system that can be used from CF.We're currently using www.protx.com for a project which is doing the job just fine. Support-wise I think that secpay do a better job - when we were having issues with something I got the direct line to one of the developers. Protx don't really do telephone support and their email support is a reply within 24 hours type thing. Tim. --- RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and ebusiness Gurus. Visit our new website at http://www.rawnet.com for more information about our company, or call us free anytime on 0800 294 24 24. --- Tim Blair Web Application Engineer, Rawnet Limited Direct Phone : +44 (0) 1344 393 441 Switchboard : +44 (0) 1344 393 040 --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Taking the plunge to IIS 6...
I need book recommendations for learning IIS 6 from A to Z. Our company is switching half of our webservers to M$ from four pain free years working with Netscape iPlanet/Sun One. And is there any book out there that is better than Hal Helms book on ColdFusion CFCs (Discovering CFCs: ColdFusion MX Components)? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Ch [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
On Wednesday 10 Dec 2003 15:29 pm, Oliver Cookson wrote: recommend good\cheap UK based 3rd party payment processors and well priced merchant accounts as well? Also forgot the one we use the now www.streamline-direct.co.uk It's got a fairly dodgy looking site but support was quite good and been working fine for us here at RGU :-) -- -dc[ cf5, ora8.1.7, iis5 ] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Run HTML through CFMX
I think this was it - only it was from mid-October. Go figure.
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messagesThreadID=27883forumid=4#140564
Quote:
oops, he didn't mention this
Open the {serverRoot}\WEB-INF\web.xml . You can modify the extension
mappings by adding these lines:
servlet-mapping
servlet-nameCfmServlet/servlet-name
url-pattern*.html/url-pattern
/servlet-mapping
If this helps, give a yell so I can bookmark it.
Jerry Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/03 09:49AM
I wish it were that simple, but there is something that needs to be done in CF and I can't find it.
Bob
You make .htm or .html get parsed by CF in your web server.Then you add
your security.
How to do this depends on the web server.
--
Timothy Heald
Web Portfolio Manager
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2319
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From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re:Run HTML through CFMX
I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So
including a file won't work.
Bob
Use an include.
cfinclude template=myfile.htm
This is a pretty decent technique when you want to use an
administrative form (in conjunction with CFFILE) to update static
content i.e headers and footers or even long blocks of text.
Jeremy
I know this is on the forum somewhere, but I don't think I am typing
the right search term.
So how do I get HTML to run through CFMX. I know it isn't the
suggested way, but I need to do it. Thanks.
bob
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Re:Run HTML through CFMX
I found it http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18289.htm [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: OT: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK)
Shameless plug #2 We process for UK merchants...and other international currencies. No merchant account required and free setup for CF-Talk folks. http://www.terrapayments.com http://www.terrapayments.com/(formerly Surefire Commerce) Cheers! Stace _ From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Payment Merchants Merchant Accounts (UK) Www.secpay.co.uk They have a list of banks they work with On 10/12/03 3:29 pm, Oliver Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I will shortly be needed a UK based payment processor or a merchant account to start receiving CC payments via the web. Can anyone recommend good\cheap UK based 3rd party payment processors and well priced merchant accounts as well? Thanks in advance. Cheers Oliver _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Payment Processors
Time for my usual shameless plug. ;-) We integrate with CF...and a merchant account is not required. http://www.terrapayments.com http://www.terrapayments.com/ Free setup for CF-Talk folks! Cheers, Stace _ From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Payment Processors Bruce Sorge wrote: What payment processors are you all using that is similar to PayPal? I am looking for one with lower rates. I checked out 2CheckOut.com and they are pricier. I am looking for something that will work with CF. I've used authorize.net but that's a real payment processor... but it works well with CF =)We got our merchant account through payquake and they use authorize.net. They had a nice plan that had no monthly minimums which is good because we haven't actually taken a credit card payment yet =) - Rick _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
Thane Sherrington wrote: (Of course, you'd want to save the original list so you could start over once you had finished one pass through the list.) How do I save the original list? At 10:24 AM 10/12/2003 -0400, cf coder wrote: #ListGetAt(TheList,Position)# When displayed on the page, the page refreshes every 2 seconds and randomly displays the list item. How do I make sure that all the items in the list are displayed, only repeating a list item once after all list items are displayed. how do I do that check? Delete the item from the list when it's displayed? cfset DisplayItem=ListGetAt(TheList,Position) cfset tempVar=ListDeleteAt(TheList,Position) cfoutput#DisplayItem#/cfoutput (Of course, you'd want to save the original list so you could start over once you had finished one pass through the list.) T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer?Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Run HTML through CFMX
I have a massive static HTML website that I need to add a security layer. So including a file won't work. As many others have probably mentioned by now, you need to edit web.xml to make this work: servlet-mapping servlet-nameCfmServlet/servlet-name url-pattern*.html/url-pattern /servlet-mapping However, you might be able to get significantly better performance using a different approach. You might look at security preprocessors for your specific web server. For example, for IIS, there are a bunch of ISAPI security filters: http://www.iisfaq.com/default.aspx?View=P206P=134 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
At 11:08 AM 10/12/2003 -0400, cf coder wrote: Thane Sherrington wrote: (Of course, you'd want to save the original list so you could start over once you had finished one pass through the list.) How do I save the original list? First create your list, then do something like: cfset BackupList=TheList That will give you two lists, each identical. Each time you loop through TheList variable and delete a list item, you can check and see if there is anything left - if TheList is empty, recreate it from BackupList. cfif ListLen(TheList) EQ 0 cfset TheList=BackUpList /cfif T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer?Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Solution/suggetion...
Hi I am providing user a form to add new employees in the system. Problem I am facing is that users are adding same employees twice (as adding is managed by different departments). Now this adding form (dsp_addEmployee.cfm) is quite complicated and I dont want to touch it at all neither do I want to touch its act page (act_addEmployee.cfm) where its acutally adding looking at loads of different criterias. Solution we came up with is that check the date of birth in the form as user submits the form and provide the user with list a of all employees for that date of birth and a message that checks if the employee already exist. If h/she does then go somewhere (doesn't matter where), if no then click on CONTINUE and it will run the act page. This CONTINUE seems a bit tricky as I can have a new page called dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm between dsp_addEmployee.cfm and act_addEmployee. But on continue that dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm needs to carry all form variables (attributes here as i am using FB3). I cannot store them again in hidden variables as its too complicated and messy. So whats the solution for this problem? Thanks Shaz [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Solution/suggetion...
You storing the NINO?Would be better check that DOB 1 possible way... Duplicate the form into the session scope Carry over to the continue page Set a flag upon submission of that page On your main act pagelook for the flag, and if there, rewrite all the session form structure into the local form structure No need to edit much of the main action page that way I think that roughly does what you want... Why can't your use hidden vars? -- dc -Original Message- From: Shahzad.Butt Sent: 10 December 2003 11:43 Hi I am providing user a form to add new employees in the system. Problem I am facing is that users are adding same employees twice (as adding is managed by different departments). Now this adding form (dsp_addEmployee.cfm) is quite complicated and I dont want to touch it at all neither do I want to touch its act page (act_addEmployee.cfm) where its acutally adding looking at loads of different criterias. Solution we came up with is that check the date of birth in the form as user submits the form and provide the user with list a of all employees for that date of birth and a message that checks if the employee already exist. If h/she does then go somewhere (doesn't matter where), if no then click on CONTINUE and it will run the act page. This CONTINUE seems a bit tricky as I can have a new page called dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm between dsp_addEmployee.cfm and act_addEmployee. But on continue that dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm needs to carry all form variables (attributes here as i am using FB3). I cannot store them again in hidden variables as its too complicated and messy. So whats the solution for this problem? Thanks [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
SOT: Autofill Remember Password
When I add a remember me checkbox to my login form, IE refuses to prompt the user to remember the password.Once I remove the checkbox, it works as expected. Anyone know of a way to make it prompt the user (while keeping my checkbox)? Thanks, Brad [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
ok here is my code, I've added what your bits too in it. HTMLHEADMETA HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=2TITLEMonitor/TITLE/HEAD BODY CFSET TheList = #lName# TABLE TR cfset BackupList=TheList CFLOOP FROM=1 TO=1 STEP=1 INDEX=temp cfset Position = RandRange(1,ListLen(TheList)) cfset DisplayItem=ListGetAt(TheList,Position) cfset tempVar=ListDeleteAt(TheList,Position) cfif ListLen(TheList) EQ 0 cfset TheList=BackUpList /cfif TDcfoutput#DisplayItem#/cfoutput/TD !--- TDCFOUTPUT#ListGetAt(TheList,Position)#/CFOUTPUT/TD CFSET TheList = ListDeleteAt(TheList,Position)--- /CFLOOP /TR /TABLE /BODY /HTML Now each time the page refreshes, the list will be reinitialised to its original length, right. So your logic does'nt ever get executed, does it? the list length will never be set to 0? Sorry for pestering you! At 11:08 AM 10/12/2003 -0400, cf coder wrote: Thane Sherrington wrote: (Of course, you'd want to save the original list so you could start over once you had finished one pass through the list.) How do I save the original list? First create your list, then do something like: cfset BackupList=TheList That will give you two lists, each identical. Each time you loop through TheList variable and delete a list item, you can check and see if there is anything left - if TheList is empty, recreate it from BackupList. cfif ListLen(TheList) EQ 0 cfset TheList=BackUpList /cfif T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer?Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Solution/suggetion...
Here's how I'd do it (if I understand correctly). Before the user can get to the employee form (to add a new employee), have them enter the DOB (SSN may be better if that's part of your data).This would be one page with one form field. Once they have entered a DOB, query to look up employees that match.If no employees exist, go to the New Employee form.If employees do exist, display them and put the continue button at the bottom.Clicking on the continue button will simply take them to the New Employee form. Checking the DOB (or SSN) before they input the other criteria will save them time if the employee already exists.Otherwise, they've typed in all of the employee info, only to find out it's already in the database. Hope this makes sence. -Brad -Original Message- From: Shahzad.Butt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 6:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Solution/suggetion... Hi I am providing user a form to add new employees in the system. Problem I am facing is that users are adding same employees twice (as adding is managed by different departments). Now this adding form (dsp_addEmployee.cfm) is quite complicated and I dont want to touch it at all neither do I want to touch its act page (act_addEmployee.cfm) where its acutally adding looking at loads of different criterias. Solution we came up with is that check the date of birth in the form as user submits the form and provide the user with list a of all employees for that date of birth and a message that checks if the employee already exist. If h/she does then go somewhere (doesn't matter where), if no then click on CONTINUE and it will run the act page. This CONTINUE seems a bit tricky as I can have a new page called dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm between dsp_addEmployee.cfm and act_addEmployee. But on continue that dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm needs to carry all form variables (attributes here as i am using FB3). I cannot store them again in hidden variables as its too complicated and messy. So whats the solution for this problem? Thanks Shaz [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Taking the plunge to IIS 6...
Che Vilnonis wrote: I need book recommendations for learning IIS 6 from A to Z. Our company is switching half of our webservers to M$ from four pain free years working with Netscape iPlanet/Sun One. Learning Windows is 90% of learning IIS and the Windows setup you choose will predetermine many of your options. So I would start with some books on Windows first, then check the Windows Server 2003 Security Guide (unfortunately NSA doesn't make them anymore) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8A2643C1-0685-4D89-B655-521EA6C7B4DBdisplaylang=en After that, you will have so few options to choose left that you don't really need a book for them anymore. Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Solution/suggestion...
Just a suggestion, but I've never but I think something like this might work. You said, you didn't want to copy all the form data into new hidden fields. If you meant hand copy, this would do it automatically. form cfloop collection-#form# item=field input type=hidden name=#field# value=#form[field]# /cfloop input type=submit value=Continue /form This will loop through the form structure and copy all fields into new hidden fields.Be cautious of the fieldnames field, this will create one in the new form, and then on the action page, all the fields would be named twice I presume.If you use the fieldnames field on your action page, this may cause a problem, if so a simple if statement to ignore that one field in the loop should prevent any problems. HTH -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Solution/suggetion... Here's how I'd do it (if I understand correctly). Before the user can get to the employee form (to add a new employee), have them enter the DOB (SSN may be better if that's part of your data).This would be one page with one form field. Once they have entered a DOB, query to look up employees that match.If no employees exist, go to the New Employee form.If employees do exist, display them and put the continue button at the bottom.Clicking on the continue button will simply take them to the New Employee form. Checking the DOB (or SSN) before they input the other criteria will save them time if the employee already exists.Otherwise, they've typed in all of the employee info, only to find out it's already in the database. Hope this makes sence. -Brad -Original Message- From: Shahzad.Butt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 6:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Solution/suggetion... Hi I am providing user a form to add new employees in the system. Problem I am facing is that users are adding same employees twice (as adding is managed by different departments). Now this adding form (dsp_addEmployee.cfm) is quite complicated and I dont want to touch it at all neither do I want to touch its act page (act_addEmployee.cfm) where its acutally adding looking at loads of different criterias. Solution we came up with is that check the date of birth in the form as user submits the form and provide the user with list a of all employees for that date of birth and a message that checks if the employee already exist. If h/she does then go somewhere (doesn't matter where), if no then click on CONTINUE and it will run the act page. This CONTINUE seems a bit tricky as I can have a new page called dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm between dsp_addEmployee.cfm and act_addEmployee. But on continue that dsp_ShowEmployeesForSameDOB.cfm needs to carry all form variables (attributes here as i am using FB3). I cannot store them again in hidden variables as its too complicated and messy. So whats the solution for this problem? Thanks Shaz _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
So you don't give out valid record IDs from your database every piece of the puzzle a hacker can get their hands on is bad ;-) I don't think this is really necessary to protect. Knowing a surrogate primary key for a specific record isn't a significant or useful piece of information, and from the attacker's perspective, whatever URL parameter or form field gets a specific record is functionally equivalent to the primary key. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
Dave Watts wrote: I don't think this is really necessary to protect. Knowing a surrogate primary key for a specific record isn't a significant or useful piece of information, and from the attacker's perspective, # whatever URL parameter or form field gets a specific record is functionally equivalent to the primary key. I've been mulling this over in my head for a while Is the preferred method of guarding against this sort of thing to create a UUID with every record and do a check of that when allowing db actions against the record? Any better (ie easier or less time consuming) methods to this? -- -dc[ cf5, ora8.1.7, iis5 ] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
I've been mulling this over in my head for a while Is the preferred method of guarding against this sort of thing to create a UUID with every record and do a check of that when allowing db actions against the record? Any better (ie easier or less time consuming) methods to this? I don't think there is any preferred method outside of just making sure to apply you logic rules. For example: A press release will show up online if active=1 and pubdate today. Any SQL that gets PRs, wether it gets one PR or a list, should all obey the same rule. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
I've been mulling this over in my head for a while Is the preferred method of guarding against this sort of thing to create a UUID with every record and do a check of that when allowing db actions against the record? Any better (ie easier or less time consuming) methods to this? I don't think there is any preferred method outside of just making sure to apply you logic rules. For example: A press release will show up online if active=1 and pubdate today. Any SQL that gets PRs, wether it gets one PR or a list, should all obey the same rule. Ooops, I think I got the question a bit mixed up... I was thinking more along the lines of update and delete rather than select -- dc [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
I've been mulling this over in my head for a while Is the preferred method of guarding against this sort of thing to create a UUID with every record and do a check of that when allowing db actions against the record? Any better (ie easier or less time consuming) methods to this? I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, exactly. For the client to be able to do anything, you're going to have to accept certain input values from the client. In HTTP, the client can see and manipulate these input values directly, instead of using the HTML interface you provide, so you have to ensure that they're valid and acceptable. But that's really all you can (and need to) do. So, if you want the client to be able to do something with a record, you'd need to have the client provide some input value to let you know that this specific client has the authorization to do the appropriate action. Typically, people do this by providing an authentication and authorization process, such as CFLOGIN, which allows your application to log in a user and determine what roles that user has. Assuming that the authentication token (the CFLOGIN cookie, CFID CFTOKEN or JSESSION identifiers) is very difficult to guess or brute force, you shouldn't have to do anything else. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
I don't think there is any preferred method outside of just making sure to apply you logic rules. For example: A press release will show up online if active=1 and pubdate today. Any SQL that gets PRs, wether it gets one PR or a list, should all obey the same rule. Ooops, I think I got the question a bit mixed up... I was thinking more along the lines of update and delete rather than select This is no different though. In my example, the action was View, and the rule was, it must be active, etc. For edit, lets say your rule is simply that session.isAdmin is defined and true, if so, then you wrap your cfquery tag with a check on that. Again note that we handle it server side. There is no messing with the query string. Another example: Assume a user can edit his records. In that case then your sql statements would first check to make sure that the user has access to url.id, then you would do the update call. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, exactly. What I am thinking is that the person has authorisation, but has a list of available (say) articles he can delete... If the PK is used, then with a bit of URL manipulation he could prob delete a record that he didn't have access to see... I realise you should do the check before delete, but I was thinking that it'd be better to have a UUID with every record created... then when someone wants to delete, pass it the ID and the UUID and means people can't muck about with the URL. Would it be preferable to have the check before every database action or would the above be sufficient security -- dc [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Another simple question...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be preferable to have the check before every database action Yes. or would the above be sufficient security Obscurity is not the same as or a replacement for security. Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself - Loesje [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
Would it be preferable to have the check before every database action Yes. or would the above be sufficient security Obscurity is not the same as or a replacement for security. Cheers guys...message understood:-) -- dc [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Calculating Holidays
Anybody know of any pre-built cold fusion functions/cfcs that will calculate various holidays for any given year.Looking for something with the most capabilities from the simple fixed holidays such as US July 4th and Christmas to the ever elusive Easter.It should at least cover the major US/Christian holidays but something more inclusive of other cultures and nationalities all the better.Found one UDF at cflib.org to calculate Easter, and I can figure out Thanksgiving.But It would be nice not to re-invent the wheel, if possible. But, if nothing pre-built exists, can anybody point me to straight forward resources on how one would calculate and/or define various holidays.Again starting with the main US/Federal/Christian holidays, but I would like to also include at least other major cultural/religious holidays found in the US population and finally I don't need them for my current requirement, but national holidays other then the US's may also be interesting to include for future uses of this code. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA Confidentiality Notice:This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Another simple question...
What I am thinking is that the person has authorisation, but has a list of available (say) articles he can delete... If the PK is used, then with a bit of URL manipulation he could prob delete a record that he didn't have access to see... I realise you should do the check before delete, but I was thinking that it'd be better to have a UUID with every record created... then when someone wants to delete, pass it the ID and the UUID and means people can't muck about with the URL. Would it be preferable to have the check before every database action or would the above be sufficient security If you only want some people to be able to do some things, then your application needs to check for authorization before allowing that action. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Calculating Holidays
i made a start into this using icu4j: http://cfg11n.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_cfg11n_archive.html http://www.sustainablegis.com/projects/calendars/holidaysTB.cfm getting official data is important but difficult. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Calculating Holidays
Well, this is what occurs to me: I believe most holidays one of the following: - The x date in x month (25th of December) - The x number of x day of x month (Third Thursday of November) It's possible with some work those patterns should work for every holiday. You could preset the known holidays and even be able to add new ones, if you use a basis like this... - Calvin - Original Message - From: Ian Skinner To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:29 PM Subject: Calculating Holidays Anybody know of any pre-built cold fusion functions/cfcs that will calculate various holidays for any given year.Looking for something with the most capabilities from the simple fixed holidays such as US July 4th and Christmas to the ever elusive Easter.It should at least cover the major US/Christian holidays but something more inclusive of other cultures and nationalities all the better.Found one UDF at cflib.org to calculate Easter, and I can figure out Thanksgiving.But It would be nice not to re-invent the wheel, if possible. But, if nothing pre-built exists, can anybody point me to straight forward resources on how one would calculate and/or define various holidays.Again starting with the main US/Federal/Christian holidays, but I would like to also include at least other major cultural/religious holidays found in the US population and finally I don't need them for my current requirement, but national holidays other then the US's may also be interesting to include for future uses of this code. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA Confidentiality Notice:This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL
Stacy, That option is available at CFDynamics.com as well - Jason Egan VP Partner/Customer Relations Konnections, Inc. www.CFDynamics.com office801-337-0135 fax801-1394-1254 sales 866-CFDynamics -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL Curious to know what folks recommend for cfmx and mysql combo for hosting? Been googlin' but there are so many damn options out there... Appreciate any feedback, Thanks!-Stace AVIS IMPORTANT: --- Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. WARNING: --- The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL
Stacy, There's also a little company on Maryland's Eastern Shore called Delmarva Online (http://www.dmv.com). Very reliable, responsible, and reachable. Cutter Jason Egan wrote: Stacy, That option is available at CFDynamics.com as well - Jason Egan VP Partner/Customer Relations Konnections, Inc. www.CFDynamics.com office801-337-0135 fax801-1394-1254 sales 866-CFDynamics -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL Curious to know what folks recommend for cfmx and mysql combo for hosting? Been googlin' but there are so many damn options out there... Appreciate any feedback, Thanks!-Stace AVIS IMPORTANT: --- Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. WARNING: --- The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:displaying the list items in a ticker
At 11:34 AM 12/10/03 -0400, cf coder wrote: #DisplayItem# Now each time the page refreshes, the list will be reinitialised to its original length, right. So your logic does'nt ever get executed, does it? the list length will never be set to 0? Use a session variable for the list and/or the backup list.Those will remain through a page refresh. So something like: Page 1: Setup list and backup list as session variables. Call Page 2 Page 2: Start loop. Check to see if the list is zero length.If it is, set it to the backup list, if not, leave as is. Pick a list position. Use ListGetAt to get the data you want. Use ListDeleteAt to delete that piece of data. Display data. End Loop. So set up your variables on one page and then call a second page to handle the display. Make sense? T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer?Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Calculating Holidays
Thanks, that's very much what I'm looking for.Are you willing to share? -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Calculating Holidays i made a start into this using icu4j: http://cfg11n.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_cfg11n_archive.html http://cfg11n.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_cfg11n_archive.html http://www.sustainablegis.com/projects/calendars/holidaysTB.cfm http://www.sustainablegis.com/projects/calendars/holidaysTB.cfm getting official data is important but difficult. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Single-threaded server probs
We had a problem similar to this with CFMX. Our server didn't crash but we would get error reports here and there because of deleted variables and other wackyness. It took a while to track down and even longer to solve them all, but we did it. It took some creative locking skills to get the sequence just right on part of it, and some creative error reporting skills to keep the unfixable and transparent (to users) errors from being reported on the rest. We put an exclusive named lock around deleting variables, and a readonly lock around large chunks of code that would throw these errors. It was annoying because we could set a variable, then 5 lines later it would be gone, so these whole chunks had readonly locks. As for the unfixable errors I mentioned, it's things like, when a page takes a while to load, a user will click logout before it loads, so sometimes they can be 2-3 clicks down the road by the time that slow-loading page finishes, and at the end, it includes a template that calls a session variable and throws an error. Of course the user is 4 clicks beyond that, so they never know it happens. These errors we trap on our error catching template and refuse to report. Test this stuff and see if that happens to you, then put your locking skills to the test. -nathan strutz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Single-threaded server probs Hi all, The server in question is implemented with Single Threaded Sessions (that's just the way it is :-) The problem with single threaded sessions (as I am sure you are aware) is that if a request is taking a little bit longer than usual, the user often tries clicking away from the screen, which of course just lines up another request against their session ID.This then generally brings the server down if the user is very click/trigger happy (guess we all want to be cowboys) as the requests just pile up and then... crash... Anybody got any (useful) insights on how to prevent this crash from happening with respect to the situations above?Any checking I can do it would be impossible to go back and retrofit apps (resource issues) so looking for a possible way to solve this generically. There are quite a few apps on the server and locking is not used much anywhere (again that's just the way it is, please don't moan to me about it unless it is def part of the solution) Comments would be appreciated. Thanks. -- -dc[ cf5, ora8.1.7, iis5 ] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL
Stacy: CFDynamics rocks the house man! Check 'em out! Ricky _ From: Jason Egan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL Stacy, That option is available at CFDynamics.com as well - Jason Egan VP Partner/Customer Relations Konnections, Inc. www.CFDynamics.com office801-337-0135 fax801-1394-1254 sales 866-CFDynamics -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL Curious to know what folks recommend for cfmx and mysql combo for hosting? Been googlin' but there are so many damn options out there... Appreciate any feedback, Thanks!-Stace AVIS IMPORTANT: --- Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. WARNING: --- The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
How to: Convert XML Object to Array
How do I convert an XML object to a 2 dimensional array? Many thanks,Dave Adams [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Calculating Holidays
Thanks, that's very much what I'm looking for.Are you willing to share? don't i always? need to work thru some bugs with the ibm folks (these are in their queue), get a handle on the UTC issue (it assumes everything's UTC but that behavior might change as most civilized folks don't live in that timezone ;-) wait for icu4j 2.8 to be released. then there's the .JAR size issue, for all the i18n goodness you get, it needs 2.xx mb of .JAR. need to split off the JARs into related but more bite-sized chunks for those folks only wanting some bits. i will ask that you track down some official holiday data for a few locales though. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
cferror causing me pain
CF MX 6.1/Windows XP I'm trying to implement some site-wide error handling using cferror, and it's really being a PITA. In my application.cfm file, at the very end, I have: cferror type=EXCEPTION template=/error/error.cfm exception=ANY cferror type=REQUEST template=/error/404.cfm error.cfm and 404.cfm are both in /error/, I have verified this.After I made this change, I restarted services and then loaded a test page with an error in it.Instead, I got the standard exception error handling page (not my page).After about 30 minutes of screwing around, I went into CFAdmin and registered /error/error.cfm as the default error handler, and lo and behold, it worked.I then went in and removed that setting from CFAdmin and it still worked.Has anyone else seen this behavior? Second problem is the request error page, /error/404.cfmThat page is being loaded as expected when I force a request error, but I cannot for the life of me get the error variables to display as they should.It is my understanding from http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-p24.htm#wp2022557 that I can display a number of variables, but cannot otherwise use any CF tags.Well, here is /error/404.cfm, and it doesn't display the value for error.browser (it displays #error.browser# like it's expecting a cfoutput tag): !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head titleUntitled/title /head body h1404/h1 #error.browser# /body /html When I do put #error.browser# inside cfoutput tags, it throws an error. What am I doing wrong?All I want to be able to do is display a form that will allow the end user to submit feedback, and part of that form will be these error variables in hidden form fields. Thanks, Pete [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: cferror causing me pain
This is 100% opinion, but CFERROR should be a last ditch effort to make sure no error messages appear on the screen.You should always use one, but all your actual error trapping should be done with CFTRY..CFCATCH if at all possible. If you're using something like Fusebox or Mach-ii, it's a snap, because everything goes through a single template (index.cfm) before being delegated to one of the various request handlers.Just put your CFTRY..CFCATCH in there.If you've got a normal app, where each page is it's own template, then you're kind of stuck, unfortunately, although you can come close to duplicating by doing something like this in every template: cftry !--- all template content goes here --- cfcatch type=any cfinclude template=/error/errordispatcher.cfm / /cfcatch /cftry Then in errordispatcher.cfm you can use the CFCATCH variables to determine what to do (different error types), and you still have full access to all the CF tags you could ever want. That won't handle 404s and such, so in your actual CFERROR template, I usually use a client-side redirect to forward back to my application, to an error page, so I can once again use all the CF tags.You need to be careful with that page though, because you could end up in an infinite loop.It HAS to be defined, and it should only use CF, no external resources at all (DB, web services, network shares, etc), because that might be the base cause of the error. Bottom line, the CFERROR templates should be as dumb as possible, becase, as you've seen, they are so devoid of function to be almost worthless. Cheers, barneyb -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: cferror causing me pain CF MX 6.1/Windows XP I'm trying to implement some site-wide error handling using cferror, and it's really being a PITA. In my application.cfm file, at the very end, I have: cferror type=EXCEPTION template=/error/error.cfm exception=ANY cferror type=REQUEST template=/error/404.cfm error.cfm and 404.cfm are both in /error/, I have verified this.After I made this change, I restarted services and then loaded a test page with an error in it.Instead, I got the standard exception error handling page (not my page).After about 30 minutes of screwing around, I went into CFAdmin and registered /error/error.cfm as the default error handler, and lo and behold, it worked.I then went in and removed that setting from CFAdmin and it still worked.Has anyone else seen this behavior? Second problem is the request error page, /error/404.cfm That page is being loaded as expected when I force a request error, but I cannot for the life of me get the error variables to display as they should.It is my understanding from http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-p2 4.htm#wp2022557 that I can display a number of variables, but cannot otherwise use any CF tags.Well, here is /error/404.cfm, and it doesn't display the value for error.browser (it displays #error.browser# like it's expecting a cfoutput tag): !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head titleUntitled/title /head body h1404/h1 #error.browser# /body /html When I do put #error.browser# inside cfoutput tags, it throws an error. What am I doing wrong?All I want to be able to do is display a form that will allow the end user to submit feedback, and part of that form will be these error variables in hidden form fields. Thanks, Pete [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Cached Query Memory Usage- How to find out?
I have a bunch of xml files from which my application creates cached queries for use in the application. While all the xml files put together are not more than a megabyte, memory usage on my CFMX 6.1 Server (Running on Windows 2003 and IIS 6.0; 1GB RAM) spikes up to about 400 MB when the app. is running. My question then is- Is there a way to find out exactly how much each cached query and other objects (I have components being loaded) are using up in the memory? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFMX Hosting w/ MySQL
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RE: Calculating Holidays
Sounds fair, even though I only really understood about 3 out 5 (60%) of the acronyms in that message. :-) But, I would be most willing to help track down more holiday definitions. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Calculating Holidays Thanks, that's very much what I'm looking for.Are you willing to share? don't i always? need to work thru some bugs with the ibm folks (these are in their queue), get a handle on the UTC issue (it assumes everything's UTC but that behavior might change as most civilized folks don't live in that timezone ;-) wait for icu4j 2.8 to be released. then there's the .JAR size issue, for all the i18n goodness you get, it needs 2.xx mb of .JAR. need to split off the JARs into related but more bite-sized chunks for those folks only wanting some bits. i will ask that you track down some official holiday data for a few locales though. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Calculating Holidays
UTC = Coordinated Universal Time which is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) or Zulu Time. JAR = Java Archive (or something like that) which is similar to a zip file for Java and typically holds stuff like class files. - Calvin - Original Message - From: Ian Skinner To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:15 PM Subject: RE: Calculating Holidays Sounds fair, even though I only really understood about 3 out 5 (60%) of the acronyms in that message. :-) But, I would be most willing to help track down more holiday definitions. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Calculating Holidays Thanks, that's very much what I'm looking for.Are you willing to share? don't i always? need to work thru some bugs with the ibm folks (these are in their queue), get a handle on the UTC issue (it assumes everything's UTC but that behavior might change as most civilized folks don't live in that timezone ;-) wait for icu4j 2.8 to be released. then there's the .JAR size issue, for all the i18n goodness you get, it needs 2.xx mb of .JAR. need to split off the JARs into related but more bite-sized chunks for those folks only wanting some bits. i will ask that you track down some official holiday data for a few locales though. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
OT: MySQL DATETIME datatypes?
Any of you MySQL heavyweights use UNIX_TIMESTAMP, UNIX_Date... or do you just use the MySQL Date/Datetime datatypes? I'm fairly new to MySQL, but I have an associate who insists that storing dates as int(11) using UNIX formats uses less disk space, and that we should always do this. The situations we're talking about involve less than 1000 records so I don't see it being worth the trouble. Opinions? Thanks, Greg [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Best practice for creating vars
Hi all today i'm using this script to check and create our form vars: CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1Title=Form.Sale1Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1=Form.Sale1 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo1) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo1=Form.Memo1 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2Title=Form.Sale2Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2=Form.Sale2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo2=Form.Memo2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2Title=Form.Sale2Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2=Form.Sale2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo2=Form.Memo2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale3Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale3Title=Form.Sale3Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale3) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale3=Form.Sale3 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo3) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo3=Form.Memo3 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale4Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale4Title=Form.Sale4Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale4) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale4=Form.Sale4 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo4) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo4=Form.Memo4 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale5Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale5Title=Form.Sale5Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale5) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale5=Form.Sale5 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo5) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo5=Form.Memo5 /CFIF Do you have other(more fast, quickly, dynamic or best programming) to do that? Maybe inside a loop? Works??? Thanx in advance -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Best practice for creating vars
cfset session.authenticated = duplicate(form) marlon Spectrum WebDesign wrote: Hi all today i'm using this script to check and create our form vars: CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1Title=Form.Sale1Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1=Form.Sale1 /CFIF clipped http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 -- marlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Best practice for creating vars
cfloop index=I list=#form.formfields# cfset session.authenticated.[i] = form.[i] /cfloop I think that would work, or something to that effect -Original Message- From: Spectrum WebDesign [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Best practice for creating vars Hi all today i'm using this script to check and create our form vars: CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1Title=Form.Sale1Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1=Form.Sale1 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo1) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo1=Form.Memo1 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2Title=Form.Sale2Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2=Form.Sale2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo2=Form.Memo2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2Title=Form.Sale2Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale2=Form.Sale2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo2) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo2=Form.Memo2 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale3Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale3Title=Form.Sale3Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale3) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale3=Form.Sale3 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo3) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo3=Form.Memo3 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale4Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale4Title=Form.Sale4Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale4) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale4=Form.Sale4 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo4) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo4=Form.Memo4 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale5Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale5Title=Form.Sale5Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale5) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale5=Form.Sale5 /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Memo5) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Memo5=Form.Memo5 /CFIF Do you have other(more fast, quickly, dynamic or best programming) to do that? Maybe inside a loop? Works??? Thanx in advance -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Best practice for creating vars
How about structAppend(session.authenticated,form) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: cferror causing me pain
I'm trying to implement some site-wide error handling using cferror, and it's really being a PITA. In my application.cfm file, at the very end, I have: cferror type=EXCEPTION template=/error/error.cfm exception=ANY cferror type=REQUEST template=/error/404.cfm error.cfm and 404.cfm are both in /error/, I have verified this. After I made this change, I restarted services and then loaded a test page with an error in it. Instead, I got the standard exception error handling page (not my page). After about 30 minutes of screwing around, I went into CFAdmin and registered /error/error.cfm as the default error handler, and lo and behold, it worked. I then went in and removed that setting from CFAdmin and it still worked. Has anyone else seen this behavior? No, I haven't seen that specific behavior. I have seen all sorts of odd behavior that was only resolved after restarting the CF service, oddly enough. It's worth pointing out that CFERROR TYPE=EXCEPTION won't catch every possible error, only things that CF considers to be runtime exceptions. I assume that you have a directory called error in your web root, and that you have the root slash / mapped in CF to your web root, or that you have a CF mapping called /error pointing to your error directory? If I recall correctly, the CFERROR tags resolve their paths the same way that CFINCLUDE and CFMODULE do. Second problem is the request error page, /error/404.cfm That page is being loaded as expected when I force a request error, but I cannot for the life of me get the error variables to display as they should. It is my understanding from http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-p2 4.htm#wp2022557 that I can display a number of variables, but cannot otherwise use any CF tags. That is also my understanding, and has been my experience. I've never had an error page with a name that consists of a number; perhaps that's the problem. (This is purely a shot in the dark.) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Best practice for creating vars
Good call marlon, much easier. John -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best practice for creating vars cfset session.authenticated = duplicate(form) marlon Spectrum WebDesign wrote: Hi all today i'm using this script to check and create our form vars: CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1Title) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1Title=Form.Sale1Title /CFIF CFIF IsDefined(Form.Sale1) CFSET SESSION.Authenticated.Sale1=Form.Sale1 /CFIF clipped http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 -- marlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Best practice for creating vars
Forget what I wrote.I like Andrew Scott's answer better. cfset session.authenticated = duplicate(form) marlon [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: cferror causing me pain
This is 100% opinion, but CFERROR should be a last ditch effort to make sure no error messages appear on the screen. You should always use one, but all your actual error trapping should be done with CFTRY..CFCATCH if at all possible. I would strongly disagree with this (not that my opinion is any better than yours!) I run into a lot of people using CFTRY/CFCATCH around their entire page, and I think it's a waste. I'd strongly recommend reserving the use of CFTRY and CFCATCH for situations where you have an expected problem with a specific algorithm, and a specific solution for that problem. If you're using something like Fusebox or Mach-ii, it's a snap, because everything goes through a single template (index.cfm) before being delegated to one of the various request handlers. Just put your CFTRY..CFCATCH in there. If you've got a normal app, where each page is it's own template, then you're kind of stuck, unfortunately, although you can come close to duplicating by doing something like this in every template: cftry !--- all template content goes here --- cfcatch type=any cfinclude template=/error/errordispatcher.cfm / /cfcatch /cftry Then in errordispatcher.cfm you can use the CFCATCH variables to determine what to do (different error types), and you still have full access to all the CF tags you could ever want. You have full access to all CF tags using CFERROR TYPE=EXCEPTION, CFERROR TYPE=MONITOR, and the site-wide error handler. Given that, what's the advantage to using CFTRY in this case? That won't handle 404s and such, so in your actual CFERROR template, I usually use a client-side redirect to forward back to my application, to an error page, so I can once again use all the CF tags. You need to be careful with that page though, because you could end up in an infinite loop. It HAS to be defined, and it should only use CF, no external resources at all (DB, web services, network shares, etc), because that might be the base cause of the error. In general, I'd agree with this part - your CF error handlers have to be careful not to trigger an error. However, if you use the site-wide error handler, or CFERROR TYPE=EXCEPTION, and your error handling page has an error, it won't trigger an infinite loop, but will instead throw to the built-in CF error handler and you'll get the big white error page we all know and love. However, if you do the redirect that you're talking about, you may well get in an infinite loop. Bottom line, the CFERROR templates should be as dumb as possible, becase, as you've seen, they are so devoid of function to be almost worthless. This used to be true, but I don't think it is true at all any more. I find CFERROR and the site-wide error handler to be immensely useful. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re:Best practice for creating vars
That variables settings occur when our multipage form is load... cfloop works? - Original Message - From: Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:41:57 -0400 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:Best practice for creating vars Forget what I wrote.I like Andrew Scott's answer better. cfset session.authenticated = duplicate(form) marlon [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How to: Convert XML Object to Array
How do I convert an XML object to a 2 dimensional array? There's no guarantee that a given XML document sensibly corresponds to a two-dimensional array. However, if your XML document is structured in such a way that it's analogous to a recordset, you can treat it as an array in CF already. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How to: Convert XML Object to Array
How do I convert an XML object to a 2 dimensional array? There's no guarantee that a given XML document sensibly corresponds to a two-dimensional array. However, if your XML document is structured in such a way that it's analogous to a recordset, you can treat it as an array in CF already. I just realized that I should probably elaborate a bit about this. When you give CF an XML document object as a variable, you can treat it as an array, automatically. So, if you had something like this: ?xml version=1.0? beans bean id=5 nameMexican Jumping/name /bean /beans you can reference it something like this: cfset xDoc = XMLParse(myxml) !--- let's assume you read in the above file using CFFILE --- cfoutput#xDoc.beans.bean[1].name.XMLText#/cfoutput !--- this should output Mexican Jumping --- I typed this in the mail client, so there may be a typo, but you should get the drift. Use CFDUMP on your XML document object to see how it's structured. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Cached Query Memory Usage- How to find out?
Nikhil Madani wrote: I have a bunch of xml files from which my application creates cached queries for use in the application. While all the xml files put together are not more than a megabyte, memory usage on my CFMX 6.1 Server (Running on Windows 2003 and IIS 6.0; 1GB RAM) spikes up to about 400 MB when the app. is running. My question then is- Is there a way to find out exactly how much each cached query and other objects (I have components being loaded) are using up in the memory? Hi Nikhil, There is no easy way to determine the size of an object in java, there is no sizeof function for instance. To determine the size of an object you need to add up the size of all the primitive data members within the object. In CF there are no primitives, most simple objects are stored as strings which are double byte (2 bytes for each character). So to find the approximate site of a query you might do something like this: cffunction name=sizeOfQuery returntype=numeric cfargument name=query type=query required=true cfset chars = 0 cfoutput query=arguments.query cfloop list=#arguments.query.columnlist# index=column cfset chars = chars + Len(Evaluate(arguments.query.#column#)) /cfloop /cfoutput !--- multiply by two since chars in java are double bytes --- cfreturn chars * 2 /cffunction then call it: cfoutput#sizeOfQuery(somequery)#/cfoutput bytes. For components you would need to add up the size of all the data within the component - loop through each array, structure, or query - find the total length and multiply by 2. In actuality the objects may be taking up a bit more room than the size of its data. The objects that hold the data may also have their own meta data (such as an integer storing the size). Also keep in mind that your CF Server is storing more than just your variables in memory, it is also caching compiled CFM files, database connections, etc. ___ Pete Freitag http://www.cfdev.com/ Author of the CFMX Developers Cookbook http://www.petefreitag.com/bookshelf/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
IIS isn't working today, why, help!
I've maxed out my troubleshooting skills. I couldn't reach my localhost (127.0.0.1) I went to admin tools component services and restarted CFMX. That didn't work. I restarted IIS. That didn't work. I restarted my laptop. (Win2000) That didn't work. Restarted it again. Checked to see if my asp pages were working (no) Started apache to check php. Yep, that worked. So, like what now? There's a ton of errors in my log file. I don't know which is significant. -- Gil Midonnet [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT: MySQL DATETIME datatypes?
Greg Luce wrote: Any of you MySQL heavyweights use UNIX_TIMESTAMP, UNIX_Date... or do you just use the MySQL Date/Datetime datatypes? I'm fairly new to MySQL, but I have an associate who insists that storing dates as int(11) using UNIX formats uses less disk space, and that we should always do this. The situations we're talking about involve less than 1000 records so I don't see it being worth the trouble. Opinions? When I use mySQL I usually avoid unix timestamps because then you need to use db specific functions like unix_timestamp. I'd rather keep my applications as database platform independant as possible. 1000 records is not going to take up too much diskspace any way you slice it. ___ Pete Freitag http://www.cfdev.com/ Author of the CFMX Developers Cookbook http://www.petefreitag.com/bookshelf/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flash Instant Messenger Software?
Hi Novak talk to Mario at [EMAIL PROTECTED] he has one ready for use. Hope this helps Nashir - Original Message - From: cf-talk To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: Flash Instant Messenger Software? Hi All, Before I go and reinvent the wheel... Does anyone know of some cheap/free instant messenger software that I can embed in a ColdFusion intranet application? I currently have a ColdFusion/_javascript_/DHTML solution in place but I'd much rather have a Flash popup window that floats over top of my web app without any chrome around the edges. I'm not looking for anything fancy, just something I can quickly slap into an application so that end users can communicate with us via a live help link. -Novak [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Best practice for creating vars
There is no difference between using the cfloop or the StructAppend, they both do exactly the same thing. The only difference structAppend is 1 line of code compared to possible 3, or 1 if you condense it to 1 and that structAppend will run faster than the cfloop method. Mach-II uses this approach to duplicate the form and url variables into another scope, makes more sense easier to read and easier to update or expand on than using cfloop. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485-Fax: 03 9699 7976 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: displaying the list items in a ticker
this is a common js/dhtml script. dhtmlcentral is a terrific resource http://www.dhtmlcentral.com/script/search.asp?category=text dynamicdrive.com has a lot of useful scripts: http://www.dynamicdrive.com http://www.dansteinman.com/dynduo/ is a good place to start picking up dhtml tricks and a quick google check retrieved: http://www.news-scroller.com/index.html good luck Gilbert Midonnet [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Calculating Holidays
But, I would be most willing to help track down more holiday definitions. you might regret saying that publically.its a tough row to hoe. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Calculating Holidays
UTC = Coordinated Universal Time which is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) or Zulu Time. JAR = Java Archive (or something like that) which is similar to a zip file for Java and typically holds stuff like class files. and just in case: i18n = internationalization for the 18 letters between the i n. icu4j = international components for unicode for java [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
File Storage - Database vs. File System
I am working on an application where the user will have the option to upload files to the server.The project specifications are open in terms of storage of the files, so I am wondering what are the benefits or downsides of storing a file in the database vs. storing it in the file system?I have in the past stored files in a file system and used cfcontent to push the file back to the user, thereby hiding the file structure to the end user.However, this always runs into issues with duplicate file names. Suggestions? Thanks -- Jeff [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
cf 5 / mx / 6.1
Are there any known issues with using cfmodule and include files between CF5 and 6.1 ? I've built this system that relies heavily on cfmodule and custom tags being called and embedded within other custom tags. It works on my test system, but when I upload to staging server it seems to cut out when I call custom tags within custom tags. Was wondering if there were any known issues ? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: File Storage - Database vs. File System
Use a dual approach... store the actual file somewhere on the Server, doesn't matter where and name it whatever you want (id number, guid, etc...) then store the file information in the DB (true file name, size, location on server, etc...).You pull the info from the DB and then you can cfcontent it out to the user.Then you can tie access to the file to whatever authentication schema you use in the DB... Make sense? Cheers, Jeff Garza _ From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: File Storage - Database vs. File System I am working on an application where the user will have the option to upload files to the server.The project specifications are open in terms of storage of the files, so I am wondering what are the benefits or downsides of storing a file in the database vs. storing it in the file system?I have in the past stored files in a file system and used cfcontent to push the file back to the user, thereby hiding the file structure to the end user.However, this always runs into issues with duplicate file names. Suggestions? Thanks -- Jeff _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: cferror causing me pain
This is 100% opinion, but CFERROR should be a last ditch effort to make sure no error messages appear on the screen.You should always use one, but all your actual error trapping should be done with CFTRY..CFCATCH if at all possible. This goes against the whole idea of how exception handling should be structured in an application.For a diagrammed explanation of the three tiers of structured exception handling, see page 430 of The ColdFusion MX Bible.If you don't have a copy, here's an explanation that might help. Envision a framework that has three layers... The top layer contains one or more sieves that CFCATCH exceptions thrown by your application.Each sieve catches a specific type of exception (type=Database, type=_expression_, etc) that you expect might reasonably occur in your application, such as a unique index violation on an alternate key column that would be thrown by the database if someone tried to register twice using the same email address. This is a fairly coarse test, so you would further test inside the CFCATCH construct for the NativeErrorCode that applies to the specific type=Database exception you want to handle.If the exception is the one you want to handle in an exceptional manner, the code inside your CFCATCH type=Database construct would take over and handle it.If it was some other type=Database exception, you would CFRETHROW the exception you caught back out of the top layer, down to the second layer in the exception handling framework. If an exception isn't handled by the top layer of CFCATCH constructs -- either by not having a CFCATCH of the type that was thrown, or by catching and then RETHROWing the exception -- then it becomes a bona fide error.I know that exceptions and errors are thought of as the same thing, but it sometimes helps to conceptually separate them in your mind this way, where exceptions result in handling the flow of work in some exceptional manner (not just displaying a more friendly error message), and errors are exceptions that stop the flow of work because there is no exceptional process to follow when them occur. One indication that your exception handling top layer might be doing the wrong job is if more often than not you specify type=Any or altogether omit the type attribute from CFCATCH.If you are doing this most of the time then you're probably using CFTRY to improperly perform CFERROR's job, which is the second layer in the exception handling framework. The second layer contains one or more sieves that handle errors.Each sieve corresponds to a specific error handler -- either an error handling template installed via CFERROR or a CFCASE construct that tests for exception type inside a multi-use error handling template -- and typically logs the error, displays a friendly error message, and possibly emails the developer. If an error handler for the specific type of error thrown wasn't installed via CFERROR, then that error falls through to the site-wide error handler, which is the third layer of the exception handling framework, and is more like a solid-bottomed catch basin in this metaphor.I refer to these as crashes because they should typically have been handled by an error handler, and often suggests a more serious problem. Setting up a structured exception handling framework like this enables you to really leverage ColdFusion's exception handling capabilities.Take for example the guy who tries to register twice on your website.Are you first SELECTing from the user table based on his email address, checking the RecordCount, and then conditionally INSERTing only if RecordCount EQ 0? With properly structured exception handling, you simply attempt the INSERT inside a CFTRY with a CFCATCH type=Database that further tests CFCATCH.NativeErrorCode for a value of 2601 (unique index violation on SQL Server), then re-route the user to a page that not only describes exactly what's going on, but also gives him an interface for emailing his password to himself.An exceptional process flow for a specifically-handled exception. Another benefit is that you can use CFTHROW to nicely integrate your own business logic into the same exception handling mechanism used by ColdFusion's own exceptions.If your business rules define certain anomalies as exceptions, even if those anomalies don't throw exceptions in ColdFusion, you can throw a custom exception via CFTHROW and let your structured exception handling framework kick in and do whatever is necessary.Using dot notation in the values of your type attributes (type=BusinessRules.Inventory.UnderLimit) enables you to do some pretty fancy things, but that's another discussion altogether. We spend a good bit of time teaching proper structured exception handling in our ColdFusion MX Master Class because it really does make applications easier to design, build, and maintain, and you don't end up writing unnecessary and burdensome database queries and kludgey ColdFusion routines to do something that's already
RE: File Storage - Database vs. File System
The nice thing about storing the file in the DB is that all your data is maintained in one place.This has many benefits some of which are: 1) One data store, one clean backup, one clean restore. 2) No issues with cluster redundancy: the file is only stored in one place regardless of whether 1 or 20 servers use it. 3) The data can be leveraged for more than CF if need be. 4) You can leverage the databases built in referential integrity to great effect. That being said this does (among other things): 1) Place more stress on your DB environment.This can also depend on the types of files - are we talking small photos for photo IDs or 100 megabyte video files? 2) Make for more complex application code (although as always - build it right and it won't be complicated). 3) Use more (potentially very expensive) storage on the DB. 4) Potentially make your application slower. I've generally found that storing the information in the DB is great - but in use can be slow.So when performance counts and storage isn't an issue I store the information in the database and cache the file on the web server for use.The code first checks to see if the file exists and is the same date as the file in the DB - if not it pulls it form the DB and writes it to the web server. You can choose not to cache or handle the cache in any way you like - but if you've got the space the cache gives you best of both worlds. Jim Davis _ From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: File Storage - Database vs. File System I am working on an application where the user will have the option to upload files to the server.The project specifications are open in terms of storage of the files, so I am wondering what are the benefits or downsides of storing a file in the database vs. storing it in the file system?I have in the past stored files in a file system and used cfcontent to push the file back to the user, thereby hiding the file structure to the end user.However, this always runs into issues with duplicate file names. Suggestions? Thanks -- Jeff _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Hello all, I am looking into the FB framework and, well, I am just getting confused.There seems to be very little documentation on the fb website and I can really find any resources.Where should I be looking? Gabriel [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
