RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Snake
See my reply m8, that worked for me. 

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 July 2006 21:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

I've tried to do this in the past and just gave up.  There are all sorts of
issues including permissions and ownership.  I couldn't get it to work
through CF (although our CF was on a different server then SQL, and no AD).
It might work if you have AD, but we ended up just scheduling the DTS and
running it every hour.  

I wonder if you can easily run a SQL server scheduled task through SQL...

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?
> 
> Thanks, Dave.  Glad you brought you brought up the access issue, I 
> hadn't thought of that.
> 
> Dave Watts wrote:
> >> Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using the 
> >> command-line route to do this.  Seems like that it would be a 
> >> standard feature of SQL Server 2K to have this built-in.
> >>
> >> Everything I'm finding on Google is just damn complicated
> >
> > It's not built in. To the best of my knowledge, you can only execute 
> > DTS packages from Enterprise Manager or using the command-line 
> > DTSRUN.EXE program. You could, however, use sp_cmdshell to run 
> > DTSRUN.EXE, assuming your DBA hasn't denied you access or dropped
sp_cmdshell.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
> > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, 
> > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
> >
> >
> 
> 



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Re: I just made a new CFC it has to with the classpath

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Well I can see you doing some interesting things with this technique,
but honestly, I can't see a scenario in which a classloader of some
description won't provide you with the same functionality.

Also there are definatley places I would prefer to have a ClassLoader
- using the latest version of log4j comes to mind for example.  If you
actually replaced that in the ColdFusion classpath you are quite
liable to break aspects of ColdFusion as a whole.

Mark

On 7/25/06, Dan Plesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> It does not matter because I can't go back to classloaders. I have java
> voice apps running, new crazy JDBC embedded  java databases running inside
> the admin on shared hosts uses stealth datasources and the people I work for
> depend on me to get the job done at runtime and by any means necessary.  No
> way can I go back.
> I should have another look at that class and see what other people are
> saying about it but I don't have to wrap any
> java objects ever again. The days of wrapping are officially over!
>
>
> 

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Re: I just made a new CFC it has to with the classpath

2006-07-24 Thread Dan Plesse
Mark,

It does not matter because I can't go back to classloaders. I have java
voice apps running, new crazy JDBC embedded  java databases running inside
the admin on shared hosts uses stealth datasources and the people I work for
depend on me to get the job done at runtime and by any means necessary.  No
way can I go back.
I should have another look at that class and see what other people are
saying about it but I don't have to wrap any
java objects ever again. The days of wrapping are officially over!


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Re: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread John C. Bland II
Typically those lists that have From: User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> have Reply To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], like CF-Talk (shows from You, Reply To CF-Talk, and To:
CF-Talk).

On 7/24/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Snake...there is a difference between a mailing list and a distribution
> list, apparently.
>
> On the forum for hmailserver, a user asked why an email received through
> hmailserver's
> distribution list was showing the sender's email address, and why, when
> the
> email was
> responded to, it went only back to the person who sent the message, rather
> than to everyone.
>
> Martin, a developer for hmailserver, said that's the way it's supposed to
> work because it's
> a "distribution list" rather than a "mailing list"...
>
> The MySQL list works that way too, apparently, because mail I get from
> there
> always has
> the sender's address in the "From" field, rather than the mailing list
> address like CF-Talk.
>
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> I dunno, maybe the fact that they have different names has confused her.
> Not every mail server calls it the same thing.
>
> Some call it mailing list, some call it distribution list, some call it
> MRA
> (Multi receipient Addresses).
> But they all do the same thing. You create a List address, and a list of
> recipients, and any mail sent to the list address gets forwarded to all
> recipients.
>
> If you want a PROPER mailing list management system, then you want to look
>
> at some like MAILMAN. The ones that come with mail servers are usually
> quite
> basic.
>
> Snake
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 16:41
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> You're so witty, Snake!
>
> Anyway...what, then, is the nature of Jenny's concern with a "Mail list"
> vs
> "Distribution List"?
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:27 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist
>
> If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.
>
> --
> Snake
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
> lists like CF-Talk?
>
> I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
> in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...
>
>
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
> support and not the Distribution list included.
>
> Also works with Helm control panel :-)
>
> Really easy to install and admin.
>
> Jenny
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
>
> | HMailServer, free, open, windows...
> |
> | www.hmailserver.com
> |
> | Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
> | Serving about a 100 domains.
>
> I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very
> well.
>
> /Hugo
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Re: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread James Holmes
It's easy enough to put it all together via WDDX if none of the form
serialiser packages do what you want.

On 7/25/06, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We wrote our own form packager ;-) ( to work with CFAJAX)
>
> Figures... I guess I just thought this would be a common enough problem
> that there would be tons of "form packagers" out there to use.  I will
> look at what Massimo Foti wrote, and see if I can extract his form
> serializer, unless anyone else has any clean plug-and-play solutions for
> packaging up my form without reinventing a wheel.  :)
>
> ~Brad
>
>
> 

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RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
Snake...there is a difference between a mailing list and a distribution
list, apparently.

On the forum for hmailserver, a user asked why an email received through
hmailserver's
distribution list was showing the sender's email address, and why, when the
email was
responded to, it went only back to the person who sent the message, rather
than to everyone.

Martin, a developer for hmailserver, said that's the way it's supposed to
work because it's
a "distribution list" rather than a "mailing list"...

The MySQL list works that way too, apparently, because mail I get from there
always has
the sender's address in the "From" field, rather than the mailing list
address like CF-Talk.


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

I dunno, maybe the fact that they have different names has confused her.
Not every mail server calls it the same thing.

Some call it mailing list, some call it distribution list, some call it MRA
(Multi receipient Addresses).
But they all do the same thing. You create a List address, and a list of
recipients, and any mail sent to the list address gets forwarded to all
recipients.

If you want a PROPER mailing list management system, then you want to look
at some like MAILMAN. The ones that come with mail servers are usually quite
basic.

Snake


-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

You're so witty, Snake!

Anyway...what, then, is the nature of Jenny's concern with a "Mail list" vs
"Distribution List"?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist

If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.

--
Snake

 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
lists like CF-Talk?

I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
support and not the Distribution list included.

Also works with Helm control panel :-)

Really easy to install and admin.

Jenny


-Original Message-
From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc


| HMailServer, free, open, windows...
|
| www.hmailserver.com
|
| Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
| Serving about a 100 domains.

I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very well.

/Hugo
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Re: I just made a new CFC it has to with the classpath

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Aha.

I am guessing that this is a CFC that wraps around what is discussed
in this Java Tech Forum post - about how to hack the classpath at
runtime, doing exactly what this guy is talking about:

http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=300557&start=0&tstart=0

It's really not a good way of doing things, and I think that it was
done more as an academic excercise more than anything else.

Regards,

Mark

On 7/24/06, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's good to know - I've not used more than one jar in the array so
> I never tried to see if it would work. Thanks.
>
> On 7/24/06, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh.. well in that case -
> >
> > If you use JavaLoader, you should note it takes an array of paths as
> > an argument.
> >
> > So if you have 2 JAR files that reference each other, if you point to
> > both, they will work fine.
> > (or 17 Jars... whatever).
> >
> > You can see this in my first post about JavaLoader:
> > http://www.compoundtheory.com/?action=displayPost&ID=117
> >
> > And with far less than 300 lines of code, I may add.
> >
> > If you happen to be on the CFHibernate mailing list, you can see that
> > I've got Hibernate running via JavaLoader with relatively ease, and
> > that has no small amount of JAR libraries around.
> >
> > Mark
>
> --
> CFAJAX docs and other useful articles:
> http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
>
> 

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Re: copy sql table with indexes

2006-07-24 Thread Jim Wright
On 7/24/06, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're trying to move to SQL 2005 Express from SQL 2k Standard.  The only
> thing that seems to be missing from our perspective is DTS, and the only way
> we really use DTS is to copy tables from one db to another.  Is there a way
> to do that using SQL and/or third party tools?  We'd like to be able to copy
> table along with primary keys/indexes, so a simple select * into table won't
> work.

There are probably quite a few ways to do this, but I'll throw one out
there. I've been pretty impressed with Aqua Data Studio
(http://www.aquafold.com/).  The interface is similar to Enterprise
Manager, with some nice additions.  You might be able to make use of
its ability to create export scripts which have a create table
statement and insert statements for the data (similar to what
mysqldump does).  The create statements have the keys/indexes defined.
  And it will work with most popular databases out there (I'm using it
for SQL 2005, SQL 2000 and MySQL 4 and 5...not sure if it will work
with SQL 2005 Express).

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Re: WSDL Problem

2006-07-24 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>Does anyone have any ideas what the problem might be?

Check if the server has a full license. If it is only a developer 
version, it will
add some garbage in the headers that will break the XML.

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Re: making strings.. good practice??

2006-07-24 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>What do you all have to say regarding this???

In my personal case, it is just a question of in which context the code is:
1- if it is in an expression, like in a CFSET, http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm
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RE: Barcode Generation

2006-07-24 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
got a bit further then get:

Error occurred in tag CFX_IMAGE  
Unexpected error occurred while processing tag.The cause of this error is 
yet unknown.  
  
The error occurred in C:\CFusionMX\CustomTags\barcode.cfm: line 1151
Called from C:\CFusionMX\CustomTags\barcode.cfm: line 1
Called from 
C:\Inetpub\democart.fasttrackonline.co.uk\admin\barcodes\sample.cfm: line 24
 
1149 :  action="IML"
1150 :  file="NEW"
1151 :  x="#bcw#"
1152 :  y="#bcha#"
1153 :  commands="

 

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 July 2006 01:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Barcode Generation


Hi Nick,

I found this message from May about barcodes.

I'm trying to get this product working and am getting:

"Cannot find CFML template for custom tag barcode."

Any ideas please?  I've not used tags much before so I expect I'm doing 
something silly.

Many thanks,

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2006 21:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Barcode Generation


http://www.fusionzone.com/applications/barcode/tour.cfm

On 11/05/06, David Milhoan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone generated barcodes with Coldfusion?
>
>
> 





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RE: Barcode Generation

2006-07-24 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
Hi Nick,

I found this message from May about barcodes.

I'm trying to get this product working and am getting:

"Cannot find CFML template for custom tag barcode."

Any ideas please?  I've not used tags much before so I expect I'm doing 
something silly.

Many thanks,

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2006 21:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Barcode Generation


http://www.fusionzone.com/applications/barcode/tour.cfm

On 11/05/06, David Milhoan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone generated barcodes with Coldfusion?
>
>
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RE: copy sql table with indexes

2006-07-24 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
Willing to use a third party tool?





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From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: copy sql table with indexes

We're trying to move to SQL 2005 Express from SQL 2k Standard.  The only
thing that seems to be missing from our perspective is DTS, and the only
way we really use DTS is to copy tables from one db to another.  Is
there a way to do that using SQL and/or third party tools?  We'd like to
be able to copy table along with primary keys/indexes, so a simple
select * into table won't work.  

 

Russ





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Re: CF & DB2 on a z/OS mainframe?

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Root
loathe wrote:
> 
  > What is the best way from CF (potentially on a web sphere server) to 
have
> FULL access to DB 2.  By this I mean user management, stored procedures, and
> regular SQL statements.  The client wants to get rid of Neon as it is very
> expensive, and DB 2 Connect isn't as fast as it is.
> 
> Is there a different third party driver or client that can do the same
> thing?
> 
> Can I do user management through JDBC?  I hear there are a ton of
> performance gains to be had by using JDBC, is this true?

I seriously doubt it, since user management isn't a function of the 
database, it's RACF.

We've been using DB2 Connect for years, due to issues with Macromedia's 
implementation of the JDBC Driver in Coldfusion MX.  These issues *MAY* 
have been resolved with CFMX 7 and we're testing the JDBC drivers next 
week for all our applications.

The problem in CFMX was that the stupid JDBC driver was returning column 
labels instead of column names.  In most cases they are the same, but it 
still seemed like a stupid decision on the part of Macromedia.  It ONLY 
affected people connecting to DB2 on OS/390 and z/OS.

However, if it turns out that it's not a problem any more, we're gonna 
go back to the JDBC drivers.

Rick

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ajaxcfc invalid reply from server

2006-07-24 Thread Brad Wood
I'm going crazy here...

 

I keep getting a dreaded "invalid reply from server" alert from my
ajaxcfc call.  What's bugging the heck out of me is that I have no way
of seeing what is going on.  

 

Everything works perfectly until I try to cfmodule index.cfm inside my
CFC.  We use Fusebox, and I want to capture the output of a fuseaction
with cfsavecontent and eventually return the html output as a string.

 

I tried putting in a try/catch with a cfmail to myself to see what the
error is, but the cfcatch code is never ran.  Even if I return an
arbitrary string to the ajaxcfc call, I get an "Invalid reply from
server" error when I try to cfmodule index.cfm.  

 

If I take the cffunction out of the CFC and run it elsewhere, it runs
great with no errors.  I am using the setDebugMode(), but no debug.html
file is written when it errors.  No help at all!

 

Even if no one has a clue what is causing my specific weird problem, I'm
hoping someone out there knows how to "see" what is going on inside of
the blasted CFC that ajaxcfc is calling to know what error is happening.

 

Thanks all!

 

~Brad

 

 

 

 




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Re: Database design

2006-07-24 Thread Casey Dougall
I'm a big fan of tables. The more the better, there is no reason why all
that should live in the same table. I also like auto incremnt on tables so
every table can have a ID, tblClient.clientID, tblClientBroker.BrokerID,
tblClientStats.StatID

It's just cleaner looking and allows you to do way more with the data as
people start asking for new features.

The stats and broker tables need a ClientID field to link them back
together.

Casey Dougall
Web Applications Developer
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Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New York 12801

Marketing to New York State Destinations?
We offer quality Travel Industry Directories, Including www.Albany.com,
www.LakeGeorge.com & www.Saratoga.com


> >
> >tblClient
> >--
> >Client_id
> >Client_fname
> >Client_lname
> >Client_address
> >Client_city
> >Client_ etc...
> >--
> >Broker_name
> >Broker_address
> >Broker_city
> >Broker_ etc...
> >--
> >Stat_age_range
> >Stat_price_range
> >Stat_referral_type
> >
> >Question: is it worth my while to break this single table into multiple
> >tables linked by client_id
> >
> >Eg. tblClient, tblClientBroker, tblClientStats
> >
> >Regards
> >mike
>
>


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copy sql table with indexes

2006-07-24 Thread Russ
We're trying to move to SQL 2005 Express from SQL 2k Standard.  The only
thing that seems to be missing from our perspective is DTS, and the only way
we really use DTS is to copy tables from one db to another.  Is there a way
to do that using SQL and/or third party tools?  We'd like to be able to copy
table along with primary keys/indexes, so a simple select * into table won't
work.  

 

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Re: Database design

2006-07-24 Thread Mike Little
thanks andy. i have split the broker info into its own table.

mike

>Heck yeah...
>
>For sure split out the broker info. The stats could stay in there depending
>on what sort of data it is and how often it's updated.
>
>andy matthews
>web developer
>certified advanced coldfusion programmer
>ICGLink, Inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>--//->
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:00 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Database design
>
>
>Hi guys,
>
>I am creating a site for a property developer. Each time a
>client/potential client registers on the site the following info is
>stored in a table (simplified)...
>
>tblClient
>--
>Client_id
>Client_fname
>Client_lname
>Client_address
>Client_city
>Client_ etc...
>--
>Broker_name
>Broker_address
>Broker_city
>Broker_ etc...
>--
>Stat_age_range
>Stat_price_range
>Stat_referral_type
>
>Question: is it worth my while to break this single table into multiple
>tables linked by client_id
>
>Eg. tblClient, tblClientBroker, tblClientStats
>
>Regards
>mike

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RE: solaris and oracle

2006-07-24 Thread Dave Watts
> i'm trying to figure out if coldfusion is using IPC or TCP 
> when opening a connection to oracle.  i can see a ton of 
> processes set to local=no, but nothing set to local=yes (with 
> beq protocol).  when you run a query within coldfusion will 
> it open a new connection to the database?  
> 
> i guess i'm trying to figure out how coldfusion opens a 
> connection oracle.  i understand how the jdbc driver works, 
> but the included oracle driver is confusing me a bit.

The included Oracle driver is a JDBC driver, and it's using TCP. By default,
it will open a new connection only if there are no available connections to
use, up to the specified limit if you set one within the datasource.

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solaris and oracle

2006-07-24 Thread Steve Dworman
i'm trying to figure out if coldfusion is using IPC or TCP when opening a 
connection to oracle.  i can see a ton of processes set to local=no, but 
nothing set to local=yes (with beq protocol).  when you run a query within 
coldfusion will it open a new connection to the database?  

i guess i'm trying to figure out how coldfusion opens a connection oracle.  i 
understand how the jdbc driver works, but the included oracle driver is 
confusing me a bit.

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RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Snake
Maybe this will help you

http://russ.michaels.me.uk/index.cfm/2006/1/20/Remotely-executing-a-DTS-from
-ColdFusion

-
Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 July 2006 20:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using the command-line
route to do this.  Seems like that it would be a standard feature of SQL
Server 2K to have this built-in.

Everything I'm finding on Google is just damn complicated

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RE: Database design

2006-07-24 Thread Andy Matthews
Heck yeah...

For sure split out the broker info. The stats could stay in there depending
on what sort of data it is and how often it's updated.



-Original Message-
From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Database design


Hi guys,

I am creating a site for a property developer. Each time a
client/potential client registers on the site the following info is
stored in a table (simplified)...

tblClient
--
Client_id
Client_fname
Client_lname
Client_address
Client_city
Client_ etc...
--
Broker_name
Broker_address
Broker_city
Broker_ etc...
--
Stat_age_range
Stat_price_range
Stat_referral_type

Question: is it worth my while to break this single table into multiple
tables linked by client_id

Eg. tblClient, tblClientBroker, tblClientStats

Regards
mike





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Re: Problem with tag

2006-07-24 Thread Sam Farmer
Can you provide the code?  For both logging in and logging out.

Also livedocs provide a good background for this tag:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation&file=0289.htm

Cheers,

Sam

On 7/24/06, Billingsley, Lewis - ETA CTR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>I'm sort of a low-end intermediate developer.
>
>I'm having trouble getting the  tag to work.  I read
> somewhere that it was better to create an application.cfc file rather
> than an application.cfm file for the login framework, but with either
> one the logout tag does not work.  My book says it takes no attributes.
> Someone said something about setting a timeout somewhere, but I didn't
> get which timeout or where - or how.  It looks like the THIS scope may
> have a timeout I can set, but I can't figure it out.   I'm not even sure
> if the login framework actually uses the session scope somehow, either
> and how I would do that if it did.  As you can see, I'm in need of
> enlightenment.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lewis
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RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Dawson, Michael
If you wanted more of a real-time effect, you could have the DTS package
scheduled to run every minute.

The first task, in the DTS package, would be to check a value in a DB
table to determine if the job should be run.  If the job should not be
run at this time, the DTS package ends quietly, without further
processing.

The value, in the DB table to determine if the package should run, would
be set by a CF page.

M!ke 

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RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Ray,

>>> Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using
>>> the command-line route to do this.  Seems like that it would
>>> be a standard feature of SQL Server 2K to have this built-in.

Here's a method that's worked for me in the past:

http://www.pengoworks.com/index.cfm?action=articles:spExecuteDTS

I've used this method to allow users to upload text files, which after
uploaded to the database server, I'd call this stored proc to actually run
the DTS script.

-Dan


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Database design

2006-07-24 Thread Mike | NZSolutions Ltd
Hi guys,

I am creating a site for a property developer. Each time a
client/potential client registers on the site the following info is
stored in a table (simplified)...

tblClient
--
Client_id
Client_fname
Client_lname
Client_address
Client_city 
Client_ etc...
--
Broker_name
Broker_address
Broker_city
Broker_ etc...
--
Stat_age_range
Stat_price_range
Stat_referral_type

Question: is it worth my while to break this single table into multiple
tables linked by client_id

Eg. tblClient, tblClientBroker, tblClientStats

Regards
mike



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Re: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Massimo Foti
> Figures... I guess I just thought this would be a common enough problem
> that there would be tons of "form packagers" out there to use.  I will
> look at what Massimo Foti wrote, and see if I can extract his form
> serializer

It's already accesible with a simple API like: 
tmt.form.serializeForm(formNode)
http://www.massimocorner.com/libraries/form/sample_serializer.htm



> unless anyone else has any clean plug-and-play solutions for
> packaging up my form without reinventing a wheel.  :)

Unless you really have to use AjaxCFC, the plug-and-play solution is here:
http://www.massimocorner.com/libraries/ajaxform/


I really have to document these tools, but not being an english native 
speaker makes the process even more painstaking and time-consuming :-(

Massimo 


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RE: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Brad Wood
> We wrote our own form packager ;-) ( to work with CFAJAX)

Figures... I guess I just thought this would be a common enough problem
that there would be tons of "form packagers" out there to use.  I will
look at what Massimo Foti wrote, and see if I can extract his form
serializer, unless anyone else has any clean plug-and-play solutions for
packaging up my form without reinventing a wheel.  :)

~Brad


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RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Russ
I've tried to do this in the past and just gave up.  There are all sorts of
issues including permissions and ownership.  I couldn't get it to work
through CF (although our CF was on a different server then SQL, and no AD).
It might work if you have AD, but we ended up just scheduling the DTS and
running it every hour.  

I wonder if you can easily run a SQL server scheduled task through SQL...

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?
> 
> Thanks, Dave.  Glad you brought you brought up the access issue, I
> hadn't thought of that.
> 
> Dave Watts wrote:
> >> Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using
> >> the command-line route to do this.  Seems like that it would
> >> be a standard feature of SQL Server 2K to have this built-in.
> >>
> >> Everything I'm finding on Google is just damn complicated
> >
> > It's not built in. To the best of my knowledge, you can only execute DTS
> > packages from Enterprise Manager or using the command-line DTSRUN.EXE
> > program. You could, however, use sp_cmdshell to run DTSRUN.EXE, assuming
> > your DBA hasn't denied you access or dropped sp_cmdshell.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
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> > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
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RE: SQL Server Product Key Version Lookup?

2006-07-24 Thread Russ
As far as I know, there is no way to tell... even Microsoft doesn't know (at
least as far as SQL 2000 goes).  I'm not sure if things changed with 2k5
though. 

Russ

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> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:53 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: SQL Server Product Key Version Lookup?
> 
> Anyone know if there is a way to take a given product key and do a
> lookup to find out what version of SQL server it is licensed for? I have
> a client who has their key but no documentation or licensing
> information. I figure it's a long shot, but let me know if you know of
> something. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> John Burns
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CF & DB2 on a z/OS mainframe?

2006-07-24 Thread loathe
Hey thanks for the response.

This legacy (also government) system is killing me.  I mean we only have
about 900,000 rows in our largest DB, this thing could/should be in SQL
Server.

If I get any better info moving forward I'll let you know.


> -Original Message-
> From: Earl, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:52 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF & DB2 on a z/OS mainframe?
> 
> Loathe said:
> > What is the best way from CF (potentially on a web sphere
> > server) to have FULL access to DB 2.  By this I mean user
> > management, stored procedures, and regular SQL statements.
> > ... snipped ...
> > Can I do user management through JDBC?  I hear there are a
> > ton of performance gains to be had by using JDBC, is this true?
> 
> We have a test Windows server set up with CF6.1 (soon to be upgraded to
> CF7) that accesses DB2 on z/OS. Our DBAs made us use the IBM DB2 Type 2
> JDBC drivers specifically because it would allow them to take 'full
> advantage of DB2's capabilities' - whatever that means. We run
> successfully against DB2 using both stored procedures and pass through
> SQL.
> 
> I don't know about user management through JDBC and I cannot answer your
> performance gains question because we are still deep into the CF5 to CF7
> migration project that won't end, but we ran some pretty heavy load
> testing (for our environment) and we didn't run into any issues. I
> should say that we do only reads, no creates, updates, deletes.
> 
> George
> 
> 
> 

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Re: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Ray Champagne
Thanks, Dave.  Glad you brought you brought up the access issue, I 
hadn't thought of that.

Dave Watts wrote:
>> Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using 
>> the command-line route to do this.  Seems like that it would 
>> be a standard feature of SQL Server 2K to have this built-in.
>>
>> Everything I'm finding on Google is just damn complicated
> 
> It's not built in. To the best of my knowledge, you can only execute DTS
> packages from Enterprise Manager or using the command-line DTSRUN.EXE
> program. You could, however, use sp_cmdshell to run DTSRUN.EXE, assuming
> your DBA hasn't denied you access or dropped sp_cmdshell.
> 
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> http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Dave Watts
> Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using 
> the command-line route to do this.  Seems like that it would 
> be a standard feature of SQL Server 2K to have this built-in.
> 
> Everything I'm finding on Google is just damn complicated

It's not built in. To the best of my knowledge, you can only execute DTS
packages from Enterprise Manager or using the command-line DTSRUN.EXE
program. You could, however, use sp_cmdshell to run DTSRUN.EXE, assuming
your DBA hasn't denied you access or dropped sp_cmdshell.

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Re: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
We wrote our own form packager ;-) ( to work with CFAJAX)

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OT: SQL Server Product Key Version Lookup?

2006-07-24 Thread Burns, John D
Anyone know if there is a way to take a given product key and do a
lookup to find out what version of SQL server it is licensed for? I have
a client who has their key but no documentation or licensing
information. I figure it's a long shot, but let me know if you know of
something. Thanks.

 

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RE: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Brad Wood
Well when I use any of the following:
document.form_name
document.form_name.elements or
document.form_name.children

I get the same result.  Doing a client side JavaScript dump with
sDumper() shows me that my object contains EVERY SINGLE HTML ELEMENT
between the form tags including tables, and divs etc.

Then when I try to call the Ajax engine with DWREngine._execute I am
told "Object doesn't support this property or method".  And of course,
the line number my browser gives me doesn't correspond at all to the
code I am working with.  I think I may need to install a JavaScript
debugger-- it is just too painful trying to guess what the heck most
generic JavaScript errors mean-- especially when the line number is
always wrong.

~Brad


-Original Message-
From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: send form elements with ajaxcfc

What happens if you do document.form_name instead of 
document.form_name.elements?  That would send the form object as a
structure 
I think, which you could reference in your CFC.   In your CFC you could
work 
with the different kinds of form elements that would be sent.

-- Josh




- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: SOT: send form elements with ajaxcfc


> Quick question...
>
>
>
> I am experimenting with AjaxCFC for the first time today.  What is the
> best way to grab all the form element in a form, wrap them up and send
> them with Ajax to my CFC?  Basically I would like to have the same
> struct I would end up with in "form" if I did a regular form submit,
but
> instead it would come in as "arguments.my_form".
>
>
>
> I thought I could just send in document.form_name.elements as an
object,
> but I was getting a JavaScript error.  That may just be a typo
somewhere
> on my part, but then I was thinking that disabled fields, check boxes,
> and radio button might not submit the same way, so I figured I would
> just ask what other people have done.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ~Brad
>
>
>
> 



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execute a DTS package via Stored Proc?

2006-07-24 Thread Ray Champagne
Is there an easy way to do this?  I'm trying to avoid using the 
command-line route to do this.  Seems like that it would be a standard 
feature of SQL Server 2K to have this built-in.

Everything I'm finding on Google is just damn complicated

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Re: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Massimo Foti
> I am experimenting with AjaxCFC for the first time today.  What is the
> best way to grab all the form element in a form, wrap them up and send
> them with Ajax to my CFC?  Basically I would like to have the same
> struct I would end up with in "form" if I did a regular form submit, but
> instead it would come in as "arguments.my_form".
>
> I thought I could just send in document.form_name.elements as an object,
> but I was getting a JavaScript error.  That may just be a typo somewhere
> on my part, but then I was thinking that disabled fields, check boxes,
> and radio button might not submit the same way, so I figured I would
> just ask what other people have done.

Unfortunately I haven't had the time to document it, but this is a complete 
solution to make "AJAX-enabled" forms:
http://www.massimocorner.com/libraries/ajaxform/

Basically, you link to the relevant .js files and then add a custom 
attribute to the  tag: tmt:ajaxform="true"
And that's all.


Internally it uses a form serializer I wrote. You can see it in action here:
http://www.massimocorner.com/libraries/form/sample_serializer.htm

If you want to work at a lower level of abstraction, you could just grab the 
form serializer.

I am sorryt here is still no docs for these, but I hope they could help 
anyway


Massimo Foti
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Re: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Josh Nathanson
What happens if you do document.form_name instead of 
document.form_name.elements?  That would send the form object as a structure 
I think, which you could reference in your CFC.   In your CFC you could work 
with the different kinds of form elements that would be sent.

-- Josh




- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: SOT: send form elements with ajaxcfc


> Quick question...
>
>
>
> I am experimenting with AjaxCFC for the first time today.  What is the
> best way to grab all the form element in a form, wrap them up and send
> them with Ajax to my CFC?  Basically I would like to have the same
> struct I would end up with in "form" if I did a regular form submit, but
> instead it would come in as "arguments.my_form".
>
>
>
> I thought I could just send in document.form_name.elements as an object,
> but I was getting a JavaScript error.  That may just be a typo somewhere
> on my part, but then I was thinking that disabled fields, check boxes,
> and radio button might not submit the same way, so I figured I would
> just ask what other people have done.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ~Brad
>
>
>
> 

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SOT: send form elements with ajaxcfc

2006-07-24 Thread Brad Wood
Quick question...

 

I am experimenting with AjaxCFC for the first time today.  What is the
best way to grab all the form element in a form, wrap them up and send
them with Ajax to my CFC?  Basically I would like to have the same
struct I would end up with in "form" if I did a regular form submit, but
instead it would come in as "arguments.my_form".

 

I thought I could just send in document.form_name.elements as an object,
but I was getting a JavaScript error.  That may just be a typo somewhere
on my part, but then I was thinking that disabled fields, check boxes,
and radio button might not submit the same way, so I figured I would
just ask what other people have done.  

 

Thanks.

 

~Brad



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Re: CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading summary

2006-07-24 Thread Dan Plesse
Brain,

  The debate ended last night and these are results of my tests. These
are facts!

No debate, just facts.

Dan


On 7/24/06, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading
> >
> > 1. You can use createObject()  or  > 2. You can use new JDBC drivers for datasource administrator
> > 3. You can use JWS or dynamic classes at runtime
> > 4. You can deserialize objects from disk after serialization
> > 5. Works just like classes or jars on the classpath with no exceptions.
> >
> >
> > CLASSPATH CFC
> > http://www.cfide.org/add_jar_at_runtime.html
>
> Sorry Danbut are you asking anything in that postor just starting
> a
> debate? ;-)
>
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> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
A basic one would probably suit my purposes for now.
Since I haven't actually setup a mailing list before, anything
is more than I have now.  The lists would be for very small
memberships, anyway.

Thanks for the info...

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

I dunno, maybe the fact that they have different names has confused her.
Not every mail server calls it the same thing.

Some call it mailing list, some call it distribution list, some call it MRA
(Multi receipient Addresses).
But they all do the same thing. You create a List address, and a list of
recipients, and any mail sent to the list address gets forwarded to all
recipients.

If you want a PROPER mailing list management system, then you want to look
at some like MAILMAN. The ones that come with mail servers are usually quite
basic.

Snake


-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

You're so witty, Snake!

Anyway...what, then, is the nature of Jenny's concern with a "Mail list" vs
"Distribution List"?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist

If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.

--
Snake

 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
lists like CF-Talk?

I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
support and not the Distribution list included.

Also works with Helm control panel :-)

Really easy to install and admin.

Jenny


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Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc


| HMailServer, free, open, windows...
|
| www.hmailserver.com
|
| Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
| Serving about a 100 domains.

I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very well.

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Re: cfcache adds comment on first line of cfcache'd page.. my css doesn't work now.

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Schmitty
any fix to this? Extremely annoying.   Having to schedule a job to
look for new cache files then update the .tmp files just shouldnt have
to be...

On 11/16/05, Jon Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> cfcache. Take a look at the following comment I found on the CFCACHE
> docs. I need to find out how to circumvent this problem.
> -
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-pa8.htm
>
> jsm said on Aug 9, 2005 at 7:04 AM :
> CfCache adds an html comment on the first line of the page being cached
> (server side cached). However, the first line is reserved for the
> DOCTYPE declaration. With the comment generated by CF, it cancels out
> the basis of having a doctype declaration, and therefore does not allow
> standards based, css websites to be integrated with server caching.
>
> In short, MSIE goes into quirks mode and ignores your CSS.
> -
>
> Jon
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Problem with tag

2006-07-24 Thread Billingsley, Lewis - ETA CTR
 

 

Hi,

   I'm sort of a low-end intermediate developer. 

   I'm having trouble getting the  tag to work.  I read
somewhere that it was better to create an application.cfc file rather
than an application.cfm file for the login framework, but with either
one the logout tag does not work.  My book says it takes no attributes.
Someone said something about setting a timeout somewhere, but I didn't
get which timeout or where - or how.  It looks like the THIS scope may
have a timeout I can set, but I can't figure it out.   I'm not even sure
if the login framework actually uses the session scope somehow, either
and how I would do that if it did.  As you can see, I'm in need of
enlightenment.  

 

Thank you.

Lewis

 



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RE: CF & DB2 on a z/OS mainframe?

2006-07-24 Thread Earl, George
Loathe said:
> What is the best way from CF (potentially on a web sphere 
> server) to have FULL access to DB 2.  By this I mean user 
> management, stored procedures, and regular SQL statements.  
> ... snipped ...
> Can I do user management through JDBC?  I hear there are a 
> ton of performance gains to be had by using JDBC, is this true?

We have a test Windows server set up with CF6.1 (soon to be upgraded to
CF7) that accesses DB2 on z/OS. Our DBAs made us use the IBM DB2 Type 2
JDBC drivers specifically because it would allow them to take 'full
advantage of DB2's capabilities' - whatever that means. We run
successfully against DB2 using both stored procedures and pass through
SQL. 

I don't know about user management through JDBC and I cannot answer your
performance gains question because we are still deep into the CF5 to CF7
migration project that won't end, but we ran some pretty heavy load
testing (for our environment) and we didn't run into any issues. I
should say that we do only reads, no creates, updates, deletes.

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Re: CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading summary

2006-07-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading
>
> 1. You can use createObject()  or  2. You can use new JDBC drivers for datasource administrator
> 3. You can use JWS or dynamic classes at runtime
> 4. You can deserialize objects from disk after serialization
> 5. Works just like classes or jars on the classpath with no exceptions.
>
>
> CLASSPATH CFC
> http://www.cfide.org/add_jar_at_runtime.html

Sorry Danbut are you asking anything in that postor just starting a 
debate? ;-)

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
> They both point to the same directory.  I didn't st it up, but I have 
> to work with it.  The previous cart worked just fine with this.

Ah, then you're right, there's no reason why that should not work. 

--- Mary Jo


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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
> My only concern with CFWebstore is that since it is done in fusebox, 
> how well would that work when the rest of the site is not fusebox? 

As long as you drop it into its own directory, it's not a problem. I have lots 
of clients that run it this way. I certainly don't expect everyone to run out 
and recode their sites into Fusebox! For an example, see www.usdaa.com. 
Everything on this site was done prior to adding CFWebstore to handle the 
store. It runs from its own directory, and is completely separate from the rest 
of the code. 


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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Ken Ferguson
I'll back this up again. You could got with CFWebstore right now and 
save money, EVEN INCLUDING what you've already wasted on AC, after 
accounting for man-hours and what not. Make your argument to the powers 
that be.

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Josh Nathanson wrote:
> Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags 
> wrapped around it.  I think that was probably the easiest way for them to 
> push out a CF version of their "product".  I took a look at it (luckily they 
> had a trial version) and dumped it immediately.  It sounds like you may be 
> stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have 
> CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able 
> to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce.
>
> -- Josh
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" 
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Able Commerce
>
>
>   
>> I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion
>> either. I decided to steer well clear.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Able Commerce
>>
>> My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a
>> total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some.
>> Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If 
>> you
>> really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into
>> Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to 
>> save
>> you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you
>> to write it off and go with something worth using.
>>
>> This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to
>> work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk
>> about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions 
>> of
>> the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I
>> was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of 
>> talking
>> to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom 
>> I've
>> ever had the bad fortune to speak.
>>
>> Of course, that's just my opinion...
>>
>> *
>> Ken Ferguson
>> 214.636.6126
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart?  I am
>>> installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the
>>> existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features
>>> already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the
>>> store section of the site)  This site uses another package as a
>>> content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we
>>> need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a
>>> complete redo on the site.  Any help on this would be appreciated...or at
>>>   
>> least if someone could point me to a good resource.
>> 
>>> Able Commerce's tech support system sucks.  Once you have it installed
>>> (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not),
>>> you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization
>>>   
>> support.
>> 
>>> Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again.  When I
>>> complained about this to their customer service, all I got was
>>> attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not
>>> changing it.  I have also had this same question on their forums for
>>> the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone.  Thanks 
>>> in
>>>   
>> advance!
>> 
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading summary

2006-07-24 Thread dan plesse
CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading

1. You can use createObject()  or http://www.cfide.org/add_jar_at_runtime.html


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OT new classpath cfc verses ClassLoading summary

2006-07-24 Thread Dan Plesse
CLASSPATH CFC Verses ClassLoading summary

1. You can use createObject() or cfobject
2. You can use new JDBC drivers for datasource administrator
3. You can use JWS or dynamic classes at runtime
4. You can deserialize objects from disk after serialization
5. Works just like classes or jars on the classpath with no exceptions.

It turns out that it does not violate Private and Protected methods.
http://www.cfide.org/add_jar_at_runtime.html


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Re: i don't want cookie.jsessionid...

2006-07-24 Thread powell
Any new news on this topic?  I'm running into the same thing - my app serves up 
content to a customer's webpage, and they don't want to see cookie's being set 
on their visitor's machines.  I've turned off (in app.cfm) sessionmanagent, 
clientmanagement, and set clientcookies to NO.  I've made sure that the J2EE 
session var option is not checked in CF admin.  I can watch the http traffic 
with Fiddler and see the JSESSIONID cookie being set (but no CF cookies).  

Any way to stop this from happening?

thanks
-reed

> On my local machine CF sets the cookie.jsessionid, but it doesn't on 
> the test or live boxes.
> The first time i request a page the cookie doesn't show up in the 
> debug output, but i can read it using javascript.
> On subsequent requests it does appear in cf debug output.
> 
> I have the "Use J2EE session variables" checkbox unchecked. Is there 
> anything else i need to do?
> 
> Version: 6,1,0,63958 
> Edition Enterprise (DevNet) 
> Operating System: Windows XP 
> OS Version: 5.1 
 
> 
> Cheers
> Bert
>   

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Re: hiding an image path

2006-07-24 Thread Ken Ferguson
Good point Tom, though I guess "screaming it into the void where nobody 
WAS listening" has the same result as the altogether more correct,  
"screaming it into the void where nobody COULD listen." The point being 
that my screaming seemed to be wasted energy in that my message didn't 
appear to be getting through to the intended recipients.

*
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Tom Chiverton wrote:
> On Monday 24 July 2006 14:45, Ken Ferguson wrote:
>   
>> that I'm not seeing come back. I finally decided I must be screaming it
>> into the void where nobody was listening.
>> 
>
> In the void, no one can hear you scream :-)
>
>   


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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Eric Roberts
My only concern with CFWebstore is that since it is done in fusebox, how well 
would that work when the rest of the site is not fusebox?  I personally love 
fusebox...but unfortuantely do not have the aility to redo the entire site with 
the methodology (I wish i could though...it owuld make life a lot easier 
hehehe).  I was looking at Cartweaver and I will be recommending that we go 
with that and dump Able Commerce.  AC is good if you want just what they have 
out of the box...which is a pretty good cart, but if you want to integrate it 
into your site...outside of getting raped on the tech support costs...good 
luck.  I was able to do some customization, but they were pretty painful 
changes that took a long time to develop.  We also found out htat we can buy a 
development license for our dev server *laugh*  What kind of crap is that?  I 
have never heard of having to buy a lcense ($195 at that...)to run a product on 
a development server.  I think these guys need to pass on whatever they are 
smoking...must be some good stuff.  *aggrivated*

Eric


Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags 
wrapped around it.  I think that was probably the easiest way for them to 
push out a CF version of their "product".  I took a look at it (luckily they 
had a trial version) and dumped it immediately.  It sounds like you may be 
stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have 
CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able 
to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce.

-- Josh

 
 

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RE: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Mark A Kruger
Ken,

We have a lot of experience with ACB - and I wholeheatedly agree with your
assesment :)

-mark
 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Able Commerce

My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a
total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some.
Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you
really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into
Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save
you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you
to write it off and go with something worth using.

This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to
work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk
about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of
the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I
was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking
to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've
ever had the bad fortune to speak.

Of course, that's just my opinion...

*
Ken Ferguson
214.636.6126
*






Eric Roberts wrote:
> Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart?  I am 
> installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the 
> existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features 
> already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the 
> store section of the site)  This site uses another package as a 
> content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we 
> need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a 
> complete redo on the site.  Any help on this would be appreciated...or at
least if someone could point me to a good resource.
> Able Commerce's tech support system sucks.  Once you have it installed 
> (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), 
> you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization
support.
> Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again.  When I 
> complained about this to their customer service, all I got was 
> attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not 
> changing it.  I have also had this same question on their forums for 
> the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone.  Thanks in
advance!
>
> Eric
>
>
> 



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Re: Installing CFMX 7

2006-07-24 Thread Mike Soultanian
I do all my installs silently and it works great.

Here is the contents of my batch file (installcf.bat):

coldfusion-702-win.exe -f silent.properties

and then here is the contents of silent.properties (make sure its named 
exactly that!):

# Install is silent
INSTALLER_UI=SILENT
#
# License information - full | trial | developer
SILENT_LICENSE_MODE=developer
#
# Configuration - standalone | jrun | ear | war
SILENT_INSTALLER_TYPE=standalone
#
# Components to install
SILENT_INSTALL_ODBC=true
SILENT_INSTALL_VERITY=false
SILENT_INSTALL_SAMPLES=false
# (UNIX only) whether to start CFMX7 when booting
SILENT_CONFIGURE_SYSTEM_INIT=false
#
# Directories
SILENT_INSTALL_FOLDER=C:/CFUSIONMX7
# EAR/WAR only
SILENT_VERITY_INSTALL_FOLDER=
#
# Context root
SILENT_CONTEXT_ROOT=
#
# Runtime user for UNIX
SILENT_RUNTIME_USER=
#
# ColdFusion administrator password
SILENT_ADMIN_PASSWORD=password
#
# Flash forms - EAR/WAR only
SILENT_FLEX_ENABLED=true
#
# Enable RDS and password
SILENT_ENABLE_RDS=false
SILENT_RDS_PASSWORD=

You might need to tweak a few of the parameters depending on OS, license 
mode, etc.  Make sure the mx installer, bat file, and silent.properties 
file are all in the same folder when you run it.  You will not see much 
happening so you might want to watch your task manager to watch when cpu 
processing drops meaning the install is done (~5mins depending on cpu 
speed).

After that, run the web connector.  If you are trying to use the latest 
version of apache w/ cfmx, you'll need to download the upgraded version 
of wsconfig from adobe's site.

good luck!
Mike

Phill B wrote:
> I'll give that a try. I hope it works, I'm tired of dealing with this.
> I just want to start using the new features in MX 7.
> 
> On 7/23/06, Mike Soultanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I had that exact same problem.  I'm not exactly sure what I did, but I
>> know that the silent install helps things out... so...
>>
>> Uninstall your current version and do a silent install as described here:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/8g3dr
>>
>> then run the web connector.
>>
>> mike..
>>
>>
>> Phill B wrote:
>>> So I got my upgrade to MX 7 and a new development server. Well I'm
>>> trying to install it and Im having some trouble.
>>>
>>> I'm installing on a Windows 2003 server and IIS. The first issue is
>>> the message that it installed but "the web server connectors did not
>>> install successfully. One possible reason is that port 51011 is
>>> blocked"
>>>
>>> Then when I try to use the "Web Server Configuration Tool" I get the
>>> error "Could not connect to and jrun/coldfusion servers on host
>>> localhost."
>>>
>>> Great.
>>>
>>> So, I found this on the adobe site
>>> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19575
>>>
>>> Does this look like the right thing to do to fix the problem? I would
>>> hate to go through all of that to find out it was the wrong path. Any
>>> advice will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks guys
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Eric Roberts
No...same server, just a different header.(note "name" replaces the actual name 
for non-disclosure reasons)

The main site is http://www.name.org and the secure address is 
https://secure.name.org

They both point to the same directory.  I didn't st it up, but I have to work 
with it.  The previous cart worked just fine with this.

Eric

From:  Mary Jo Sminkey
Hhmby this do you mean that the two are on different servers? It's hard to 
tell for sure from 
what you write here, but if that's the case, it certainly would be a problem 
for most shopping carts,
 since you can't generally share session information between two servers. 
Otherwise, I'm surprised 
this would be a problem...it's pretty typical particularly in a shared 
environment for the SSL to 
use a different domain. But of course, I can't really speak for another 
product. ;-)

 
 

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Re: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Neil Middleton
I remember the days when it seemed like Majordomo was running everything.
You tend not to see it so much now

On 7/24/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I dunno, maybe the fact that they have different names has confused her.
> Not every mail server calls it the same thing.
>
> Some call it mailing list, some call it distribution list, some call it
> MRA
> (Multi receipient Addresses).
> But they all do the same thing. You create a List address, and a list of
> recipients, and any mail sent to the list address gets forwarded to all
> recipients.
>
> If you want a PROPER mailing list management system, then you want to look
> at some like MAILMAN. The ones that come with mail servers are usually
> quite
> basic.
>
> Snake


-- 
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Visit feed-squirrel.com


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Re: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Neil Middleton
I remember the days when it seemed like Majordomo was running everything.
You tend not to see it so much now

Neil

On 7/24/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I dunno, maybe the fact that they have different names has confused her.
> Not every mail server calls it the same thing.
>
> Some call it mailing list, some call it distribution list, some call it
> MRA
> (Multi receipient Addresses).
> But they all do the same thing. You create a List address, and a list of
> recipients, and any mail sent to the list address gets forwarded to all
> recipients.
>
> If you want a PROPER mailing list management system, then you want to look
> at some like MAILMAN. The ones that come with mail servers are usually
> quite
> basic.
>
> Snake
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 16:41
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> You're so witty, Snake!
>
> Anyway...what, then, is the nature of Jenny's concern with a "Mail list"
> vs
> "Distribution List"?
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:27 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist
>
> If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.
>
> --
> Snake
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
> lists like CF-Talk?
>
> I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
> in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...
>
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
> Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
> support and not the Distribution list included.
>
> Also works with Helm control panel :-)
>
> Really easy to install and admin.
>
> Jenny
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc
>
>
> | HMailServer, free, open, windows...
> |
> | www.hmailserver.com
> |
> | Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
> | Serving about a 100 domains.
>
> I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very
> well.
>
> /Hugo
> ###This message has been scanned
> by
> F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange.Formore information, connect to
> http://www.F-Secure.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: SOT: card reader to interface with web browser

2006-07-24 Thread Jim Wright
On 7/24/06, George Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there any way a card reader (for id card swipes) can interface with a web
> browser that is running a web application? Or do we have to write special
> client software for the interface? We could run this using ActiveX controls
> on the client-side browser too, I guess.
>
>
> Thanks,
> George
>

I believe most card readers by default just emulate a keyboard,
sending a string of characters and possibly a return at the end.  So
you just have to have focus on the right box in your web form when the
card is swiped, and you are all set.

-- 
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Wright Business Solutions
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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Josh Nathanson
Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags 
wrapped around it.  I think that was probably the easiest way for them to 
push out a CF version of their "product".  I took a look at it (luckily they 
had a trial version) and dumped it immediately.  It sounds like you may be 
stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have 
CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able 
to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce.

-- Josh




- Original Message - 
From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Able Commerce


>I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion
> either. I decided to steer well clear.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Able Commerce
>
> My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a
> total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some.
> Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If 
> you
> really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into
> Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to 
> save
> you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you
> to write it off and go with something worth using.
>
> This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to
> work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk
> about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions 
> of
> the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I
> was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of 
> talking
> to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom 
> I've
> ever had the bad fortune to speak.
>
> Of course, that's just my opinion...
>
> *
> Ken Ferguson
> 214.636.6126
> *
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Roberts wrote:
>> Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart?  I am
>> installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the
>> existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features
>> already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the
>> store section of the site)  This site uses another package as a
>> content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we
>> need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a
>> complete redo on the site.  Any help on this would be appreciated...or at
> least if someone could point me to a good resource.
>> Able Commerce's tech support system sucks.  Once you have it installed
>> (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not),
>> you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization
> support.
>> Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again.  When I
>> complained about this to their customer service, all I got was
>> attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not
>> changing it.  I have also had this same question on their forums for
>> the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone.  Thanks 
>> in
> advance!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Snake
I dunno, maybe the fact that they have different names has confused her.
Not every mail server calls it the same thing.

Some call it mailing list, some call it distribution list, some call it MRA
(Multi receipient Addresses).
But they all do the same thing. You create a List address, and a list of
recipients, and any mail sent to the list address gets forwarded to all
recipients.

If you want a PROPER mailing list management system, then you want to look
at some like MAILMAN. The ones that come with mail servers are usually quite
basic.

Snake


-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

You're so witty, Snake!

Anyway...what, then, is the nature of Jenny's concern with a "Mail list" vs
"Distribution List"?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist

If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.

--
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
lists like CF-Talk?

I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
support and not the Distribution list included.

Also works with Helm control panel :-)

Really easy to install and admin.

Jenny


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To: CF-Talk
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| HMailServer, free, open, windows...
|
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I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very well.

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Re: Model-Glue docs

2006-07-24 Thread Damien McKenna
On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> Is there a single PDF with all of the model-glue docs in it? The  
> model-glue site has a robohelp type documentation setup that kind  
> of sucks for printing.

http://svn.model-glue.com/trunk/documentation/Model-Glue.doc

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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
> Ken...I am beginning to agree that this is a real POS.  I only hope we 
> can use something esle, or this is going to be a real headache.  The 
> way our server is set up is we have the site and a secure site (one is 
> www.name.net the other is secure.name.net)  The store keys apparently 
> only work for one domain and will not work with this configuation.

Hhmby this do you mean that the two are on different servers? It's hard to 
tell for sure from what you write here, but if that's the case, it certainly 
would be a problem for most shopping carts, since you can't generally share 
session information between two servers. Otherwise, I'm surprised this would be 
a problem...it's pretty typical particularly in a shared environment for the 
SSL to use a different domain. But of course, I can't really speak for another 
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SOT: card reader to interface with web browser

2006-07-24 Thread George Abraham
Hi,
Is there any way a card reader (for id card swipes) can interface with a web
browser that is running a web application? Or do we have to write special
client software for the interface? We could run this using ActiveX controls
on the client-side browser too, I guess.


Thanks,
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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Greg Fuller
Thanks Tom,

It was the DEP setting.

Any consideration of whether or not to use ColdFusion vs other web
programming languages has to put the cftalk community down as a very
stong plus.

Thanks again,

Greg

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Re: making strings.. good practice??

2006-07-24 Thread Brian Dumbledore
Hmm.. Seems doesn't really make a difference.. Only downside of the hashes I 
see is that you may easily miss them in the string. But they are faster to 
write and cleaner ( I think ). Once again thanks a lot y'all for your time..

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RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
You're so witty, Snake!

Anyway...what, then, is the nature of Jenny's concern with a 
"Mail list" vs "Distribution List"?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist

If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.

--
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
lists like CF-Talk?

I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
support and not the Distribution list included.

Also works with Helm control panel :-)

Really easy to install and admin.

Jenny


-Original Message-
From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc


| HMailServer, free, open, windows...
|
| www.hmailserver.com
|
| Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
| Serving about a 100 domains.

I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very well.

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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Eric Roberts
Ken...I am beginning to agree that this is a real POS.  I only hope we can use 
something esle, or this is going to be a real headache.  The way our server is 
set up is we have the site and a secure site (one is www.name.net the other is 
secure.name.net)  The store keys apparently only work for one domain and will 
not work with this configuation.  The real stupid thing is that int he admin 
page for the store, you can change the url for the secure site for your store.  
If you can specify a different url for the secure site, why would this only 
work with one domain?  What a way to start a monday morning, huh? GRR  I 
think I will join you on your crusade to let people know how much of a POS this 
package is.  When i talked to thier customer support on Friday about my 
dissatisfaction with thier tech support policies, all I got was attitude and I 
think the quote was something like this is the model we use...we have been 
doing this for years and we are not going to change.  Great way to keep 
customers, huh?

Eric  
 

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RE: making strings.. good practice??

2006-07-24 Thread Ben Nadel
Brian,

In my opinion, when you are making very small strings, & is not going to be
different than "#" in terms of performance, so you have to go with which
ever is easier for the situation. Also take into account which makes the
code easier to read / maintain. 

Which is easier to read:



 Or ...



It's up to you. To me, the use of ## makes for a more readable string and
does not distract from the overall intention of the line. But again, my
option.

However, if you are going to be making large strings, ie. LOTS of
concatination, be sure to use the Java string buffer with the Append()
method. That probably doesn't apply to what you are talking about, so I
won't go into it... Just keep it in the back of your mind.

...
Ben Nadel 
www.bennadel.com

-Original Message-
From: Brian Dumbledore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: making strings.. good practice??

I know the subject line is a bit foggy, but I was going through some code
(not mine) a while back and found the coder doing...

I am not old enough with CF and I found this kind of usage peculiar as
against "&" ing the variables and string literals all the time.
Though the above way looks easier and cleaner, I somehow feel it is a bad
practice.

What do you all have to say regarding this???
Thanks for your time..



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RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Snake
http://www.hmailserver.com/documentation/?page=reference_distributionlist

If it Looks like a list, sounds like a list. Must be a list.

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support mailing
lists like CF-Talk?

I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
support and not the Distribution list included.

Also works with Helm control panel :-)

Really easy to install and admin.

Jenny


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From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc


| HMailServer, free, open, windows...
|
| www.hmailserver.com
|
| Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
| Serving about a 100 domains.

I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very well.

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Re: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Rey Bango
Mailsite, iMail or smartermail

Rey...



Raymond Camden wrote:
> All our down as I fight my mail server. Folks, whatever you do, do not
> buy MailEnable. Ever. What does it do when something goes wrong? It
> makes 125,000 mail messages in the queue.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a Windows-based alternative that would support
> multiple domains and listservs?
> 

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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 24 July 2006 15:44, Greg Fuller wrote:
> and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7 with
> this client)

Turn of execute bit protection ?

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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Greg Fuller
On 7/24/06, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Might DEP be stopping the install?

That was it!  Thanks to everyone who answered.  Sorry I didn't find it
when I searched cftalk.

--Greg

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RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
So what you're saying, Jenny, is that hMailServer doesn't support
mailing lists like CF-Talk?

I've been considering starting some lists like this one and was interested
in hMailServer until your comment about it not supporting mailing lists...


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc

Just started using it here .. the one thing I wish it had was Maillist
support and not the Distribution list included.

Also works with Helm control panel :-)

Really easy to install and admin.

Jenny


-Original Message-
From: Hugo Ahlenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 July 2006 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcdev, cflib, my blog, etc


| HMailServer, free, open, windows...
|
| www.hmailserver.com
|
| Using it in production now for two years, no complaints yet.
| Serving about a 100 domains.

I'll echo that, I use it small-scale for my private needs, works very well.

/Hugo
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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Greg Fuller
On 7/24/06, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you tried downloading from a different PC entirely and moving the
> file over?

Not yet.  It's a bit of a hassle here - I have to get some holes
punched in the corporate firewall to do that - security is tight.  The
last request took a few days.

>
> Chris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:55 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Coldfusion Install problem
>
> On 7/24/06, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could it be a corrupt download?
>
> Could be, but I've downloaded it 3 times with the same result each time.
> One dowload was from IE and 2 from Firefox.
>
> >
> > Phillp
> >
> > On 7/24/06, Greg Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I download 6.1 from
> > > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/systemreqs/
> > > and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7
> > > with this client)
> > >
> > > When I click on coldfusion-61-win.exe, installanywhere takes off
> > > running and I get this:
> > > The instruction at "0x00421cb0 referenced memory at 0x. The
> > > memory could not be "written".
> > >
> > > I have successfully installed 6.1 on and XP professional box for
> > > this client, but Windows 2003 Server is giving me this headache.  I
> > > have googled and searched and can't find anything on this problem.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Greg
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread James Holmes
Might DEP be stopping the install?

http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:46374

On 7/24/06, Greg Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/24/06, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could it be a corrupt download?
>
> Could be, but I've downloaded it 3 times with the same result each
> time. One dowload was from IE and 2 from Firefox.
>
> >
> > Phillp
> >
> > On 7/24/06, Greg Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I download 6.1 from
> > > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/systemreqs/
> > > and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7 with
> > > this client)
> > >
> > > When I click on coldfusion-61-win.exe, installanywhere takes off
> > > running and I get this:
> > > The instruction at "0x00421cb0 referenced memory at 0x. The
> > > memory could not be "written".
> > >
> > > I have successfully installed 6.1 on and XP professional box for this
> > > client, but Windows 2003 Server is giving me this headache.  I have
> > > googled and searched and can't find anything on this problem.
> > >

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RE: iif: am I understanding correctly?

2006-07-24 Thread Russ
Well we all know what the industry standard has been, but it seems that in
real world tests, iif is faster then cfif in some instances, and arguably
more readable (especially if you're using it inside a select or
radio/checkbox.  

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Soultanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: iif: am I understanding correctly?
> 
> I saw this written in the Coldfusion coding practices from Sean Corfield:
> 
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/performance.htm
> l
> 
> Performance "Don'ts"
> 
> The following are 'negative' recommendations, e.g., "Don't do xyz...".
> 
> Don't use evaluate()
> 
> Avoid evaluate() unless there is no other way to write your code (and
> there is almost always another way to write your code).
> 
> Don't use iif()
> 
> Always use cfif/cfelse instead of iif(). It is significantly faster and
> more readable.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Russ wrote:
> > I wrote some test code, and it seems that cfif and iif perform
> similarly,
> > and sometimes cfif ends up being slower?  Is my test code flawed in some
> > way?
> >
> > 
> > 
> > #iif(isDefined("blah"),DE("."),DE(","))#
> > 
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > ,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The time to do with IIF is #midtime-starttime#
> > Time to do with cfif #endTime-midTime#
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:34 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: iif: am I understanding correctly?
> >>
> >>> This part of the app is not going to take heavy traffic, so
> >>> the performance
> >>> hit would be negligible.  However going forward I will always
> >>> take into
> >>> consideration the possible performance implications of
> >>> iif/evaluate/DE.
> >> Yeah, and another thing to keep in mind when memorizing things that
> >> perform better performance can change with new versions of CF.  Or if
> >> you move to a different app server, or different OS.  That's why I said
> >> I like to test my own code, if I'm worried, because I never believe the
> >> 'general rules of thumb'.  :)
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RE: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Peterson, Chris
Have you tried downloading from a different PC entirely and moving the
file over?

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Greg Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Install problem

On 7/24/06, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could it be a corrupt download?

Could be, but I've downloaded it 3 times with the same result each time.
One dowload was from IE and 2 from Firefox.

>
> Phillp
>
> On 7/24/06, Greg Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I download 6.1 from
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/systemreqs/
> > and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7 
> > with this client)
> >
> > When I click on coldfusion-61-win.exe, installanywhere takes off 
> > running and I get this:
> > The instruction at "0x00421cb0 referenced memory at 0x. The 
> > memory could not be "written".
> >
> > I have successfully installed 6.1 on and XP professional box for 
> > this client, but Windows 2003 Server is giving me this headache.  I 
> > have googled and searched and can't find anything on this problem.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks, Greg
> >
>
> 



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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Greg Fuller
On 7/24/06, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could it be a corrupt download?

Could be, but I've downloaded it 3 times with the same result each
time. One dowload was from IE and 2 from Firefox.

>
> Phillp
>
> On 7/24/06, Greg Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I download 6.1 from
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/systemreqs/
> > and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7 with
> > this client)
> >
> > When I click on coldfusion-61-win.exe, installanywhere takes off
> > running and I get this:
> > The instruction at "0x00421cb0 referenced memory at 0x. The
> > memory could not be "written".
> >
> > I have successfully installed 6.1 on and XP professional box for this
> > client, but Windows 2003 Server is giving me this headache.  I have
> > googled and searched and can't find anything on this problem.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks, Greg
> >
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Phill B
Could it be a corrupt download?

Phillp

On 7/24/06, Greg Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I download 6.1 from
> http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/systemreqs/
> and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7 with
> this client)
>
> When I click on coldfusion-61-win.exe, installanywhere takes off
> running and I get this:
> The instruction at "0x00421cb0 referenced memory at 0x. The
> memory could not be "written".
>
> I have successfully installed 6.1 on and XP professional box for this
> client, but Windows 2003 Server is giving me this headache.  I have
> googled and searched and can't find anything on this problem.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks, Greg
>

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WSDL Problem

2006-07-24 Thread Neil Middleton
Got a weird one here. I have a CFC that works everywhere except the server I
need it to work on (as they always do).

When I browse the CFC as a webservice I get XML coming back just fine.  Even
DWMX can understand it.  However, when I invoke the service I get
"WSDLException
(at /h1): faultCode=INVALID_WSDL: Expected element '{
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/}definitions'"

Does anyone have any ideas what the problem might be?  I've checked near on
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Re: Installing CFMX 7

2006-07-24 Thread Phill B
I'll give that a try. I hope it works, I'm tired of dealing with this.
I just want to start using the new features in MX 7.

On 7/23/06, Mike Soultanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had that exact same problem.  I'm not exactly sure what I did, but I
> know that the silent install helps things out... so...
>
> Uninstall your current version and do a silent install as described here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8g3dr
>
> then run the web connector.
>
> mike..
>
>
> Phill B wrote:
> > So I got my upgrade to MX 7 and a new development server. Well I'm
> > trying to install it and Im having some trouble.
> >
> > I'm installing on a Windows 2003 server and IIS. The first issue is
> > the message that it installed but "the web server connectors did not
> > install successfully. One possible reason is that port 51011 is
> > blocked"
> >
> > Then when I try to use the "Web Server Configuration Tool" I get the
> > error "Could not connect to and jrun/coldfusion servers on host
> > localhost."
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > So, I found this on the adobe site
> > http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19575
> >
> > Does this look like the right thing to do to fix the problem? I would
> > hate to go through all of that to find out it was the wrong path. Any
> > advice will be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks guys
> >
>
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Coldfusion Install problem

2006-07-24 Thread Greg Fuller
I download 6.1 from
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/systemreqs/
and tried to install it on a Windows 2003 Server (Can't use MX 7 with
this client)

When I click on coldfusion-61-win.exe, installanywhere takes off
running and I get this:
The instruction at "0x00421cb0 referenced memory at 0x. The
memory could not be "written".

I have successfully installed 6.1 on and XP professional box for this
client, but Windows 2003 Server is giving me this headache.  I have
googled and searched and can't find anything on this problem.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks, Greg

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RE: making strings.. good practice??

2006-07-24 Thread Andy Matthews
One thing to consider is that there may be certain cases where you can't use
the a & b method.

Either way is perfectly acceptable.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: making strings.. good practice??


I know the subject line is a bit foggy, but I was going through some code
(not mine) a while back and found the coder doing...

I am not old enough with CF and I found this kind of usage peculiar as
against "&" ing the variables and string literals all the time.
Though the above way looks easier and cleaner, I somehow feel it is a bad
practice.

What do you all have to say regarding this???
Thanks for your time..



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Re: making strings.. good practice??

2006-07-24 Thread Charlie Griefer
i prefer , but that's just personal
preference (i find it easier to read with less poundage).

but neither way is "more right" or "more wrong" (IMO YMMV).

On 7/24/06, Brian Dumbledore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know the subject line is a bit foggy, but I was going through some code 
> (not mine) a while back and found the coder doing...
> 
> I am not old enough with CF and I found this kind of usage peculiar as 
> against "&" ing the variables and string literals all the time.
> Though the above way looks easier and cleaner, I somehow feel it is a bad 
> practice.
>
> What do you all have to say regarding this???
> Thanks for your time..
>
> 

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CF & DB2 on a z/OS mainframe?

2006-07-24 Thread loathe
Ok,

So we can connect just fine.  I mean, DB2 Connect, and Neon are both around.
Currently we only use Neon for user management stuff.

Here is the question.

What is the best way from CF (potentially on a web sphere server) to have
FULL access to DB 2.  By this I mean user management, stored procedures, and
regular SQL statements.  The client wants to get rid of Neon as it is very
expensive, and DB 2 Connect isn't as fast as it is.

Is there a different third party driver or client that can do the same
thing?

Can I do user management through JDBC?  I hear there are a ton of
performance gains to be had by using JDBC, is this true?

I have never had to connect to a mainframe before so this is all new to me.
The DBA we have has always worked on mainframes and doesn't know a lot about
much else, and isn't really all that helpful.

Any way, TIA.



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making strings.. good practice??

2006-07-24 Thread Brian Dumbledore
I know the subject line is a bit foggy, but I was going through some code (not 
mine) a while back and found the coder doing...

I am not old enough with CF and I found this kind of usage peculiar as against 
"&" ing the variables and string literals all the time.
Though the above way looks easier and cleaner, I somehow feel it is a bad 
practice.

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Thanks for your time..

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Re: JS and Ajax

2006-07-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 24 July 2006 14:55, Adkins, Randy wrote:
> However, when you create a new row dynamically, I have the JS function
> on the selectbox but will not call the requested function.

This isn't a DHTML  mailing list, but...

> Can a JS function still be called when the selectbox is created
> dynamically?

Yes, just use your favourite Browser abstraction layer to assign the correct 
function to the event on the control.

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RE: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Snake
I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion
either. I decided to steer well clear.

 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Able Commerce

My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a
total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some.
Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you
really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into
Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save
you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you
to write it off and go with something worth using.

This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to
work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk
about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of
the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I
was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking
to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've
ever had the bad fortune to speak.

Of course, that's just my opinion...

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Eric Roberts wrote:
> Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart?  I am 
> installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the 
> existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features 
> already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the 
> store section of the site)  This site uses another package as a 
> content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we 
> need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a 
> complete redo on the site.  Any help on this would be appreciated...or at
least if someone could point me to a good resource.
> Able Commerce's tech support system sucks.  Once you have it installed 
> (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), 
> you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization
support.
> Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again.  When I 
> complained about this to their customer service, all I got was 
> attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not 
> changing it.  I have also had this same question on their forums for 
> the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone.  Thanks in
advance!
>
> Eric
>
>
> 



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Re: Mysterious SESSION variable behaviour

2006-07-24 Thread James Holmes
Yes, FF doesn't ship broken :-)

The default is the same for FF as for IE, it just works better in FF.
The setting is desribed at
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.check_doc_frequency and you
can edit it at the URL about:config within FF.

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> Booyah! That did it. Thanks loads James. Any idea why FF doesn't do it too?
> Think it's just some sort of setting in the browser?


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Re: hiding an image path

2006-07-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 24 July 2006 14:45, Ken Ferguson wrote:
> that I'm not seeing come back. I finally decided I must be screaming it
> into the void where nobody was listening.

In the void, no one can hear you scream :-)

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Re: Problem with SQL Express datasource on CFMX 7

2006-07-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 17 July 2006 15:53, Rick Root wrote:
> What's going on here?  What am I doing wrong?

Firewall ? Not actually running ? Can you telnet to the host/port ?

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JS and Ajax

2006-07-24 Thread Adkins, Randy
I have a function that creates dynamic rows that contains a selectbox.
So you can click "Add Row" and it dynamically creates a new row
consisting of 1 selectbox and a few input fields.
One the initial selectbox, I have a JS function that calls Ajax to
populate the input fields.
 
However, when you create a new row dynamically, I have the JS function
on the selectbox but will not call the requested function.
 
I know the function on the dynamic selectbox is there thanks to the IE
Developers toolbar. 
 
Can a JS function still be called when the selectbox is created
dynamically?
It is the same JS function that is loaded at the initial page loads.
Just another ID number
being passed into the function.
 
Thanks!
 
 


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Re: Able Commerce

2006-07-24 Thread Ken Ferguson
My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is 
a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you 
some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it 
immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart 
application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed 
with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long 
run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something 
worth using.

This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never 
to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone 
talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my 
opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single 
year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare 
filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional 
support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak.

Of course, that's just my opinion...

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Eric Roberts wrote:
> Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart?  I am installing
> this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site
> (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the
> site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site)  This
> site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that),
> but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not
> allowing us to do a complete redo on the site.  Any help on this would be
> appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource.
> Able Commerce's tech support system sucks.  Once you have it installed
> (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you
> are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support.
> Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again.  When I complained
> about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is
> how their model is and that they are not changing it.  I have also had this
> same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a
> response from anyone.  Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>
> 

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Re: hiding an image path

2006-07-24 Thread Ken Ferguson
That's what I keep saying, but it's like my posts are vanishing into the 
universe for all the, "oh thanks Ferg, that's a fantastic idea" posts 
that I'm not seeing come back. I finally decided I must be screaming it 
into the void where nobody was listening.

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Andrew Scott wrote:
> Hmm,
>
> I would have thought
>
>   
>> img src="loadimage.cfm"> and use cfcontent from there would be the
>> 
> answer:-) Or am I missing what your really looking for?
>
>
>
> On 7/21/06, Dave Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I need to hide the actual path to an image so the users cant see what
>> folder the images are in. I was talking with Jared about it and he suggested
>> to use cfcontent but when I do that the only thing that shows up is the
>> image and not the rest of the page. Btw~ it won't just be for 1 image it
>> will be for a loop of a hundred or so images.
>>
>> Im gunna rack my brain but seeing if any of you have any ideas and I don't
>> gotta re-invent the wheel.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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RE: Mysterious SESSION variable behaviour

2006-07-24 Thread Andy Matthews
Booyah! That did it. Thanks loads James. Any idea why FF doesn't do it too?
Think it's just some sort of setting in the browser?



-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mysterious SESSION variable behaviour


It's caching, most likely. Your copy of IE will be set to check for
new pages "automatically" which is MS speak for "in a broken fashion"
so it doesn't work well; however it is the default and it's what many
of your visitors will have set.

Use no-cache headers to stop this:





On 7/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.commadelimited.com/recipes/
>
> I've got a cookbook application I'm building. It allows the user to browse
> recipes, then add them to their "grocery list". When the "add to grocery
list"
> button is clicked, it appends the ID for that recipe to
SESSION.grocerylist. It
> then runs a js function which runs a query against the database using the
> contents of the SESSION variable as an IN statement. The long and short of
it
> is that when you "add to grocery list", the recipe should save to the
SESSION
> var and show up in the bottom left corner.
>
> So it does this...sort of. In Firefox it works perfectly, but in IE, the
grocery
> list gets "forgotten" until you add another item. Try it...add a recipe
and it
> shows up just fine. BUT, refresh the page and it disappears until you add
> another recipe at which time you'll see both, until you refresh the page
> again.
>
> I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the current page never
gets
> submitted but I'm not sure. I've tried everything I can think of but can't
come
> up with an ideal solution.
>
> My next step would be to create a lookup table in the database and store
the
> session id and the recipe id. Then I could use that instead of the session
> variables. I'm not certain that would work either as the site works just
fine
> in Firefox.
>
> Anyone have input or ideas? I'd really love to hear them.
>
>



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RE: Custom Tag brain fart

2006-07-24 Thread James Smith
Yup, sorted, just added  to the end of
the tag.

Cheers.

> caller scope?

> > Just written a quick custom tag and can't remember how to 
> get info out 
> > of them (been a while).
> >
> > The tag is called with the  
> method and 
> > it builds a large structure that I then don't have access 
> to back in 
> > the main template.

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RE: OT: issue tracker for graphics

2006-07-24 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
| Unfortunately, I don't think such a beast exists. If you don't mind,
| I'll suggest my own bug tracker, Lighthouse Pro
| (ray.camdenfamily.com/projects/lhp). While it doesnt do the graphics
| as nicely as you want, it is open source and you could modify it.

Sorry, but LH Pro is not an option -- I am on BD.Net these days. We
currently have a decent .Net bug/issue tracker though, that supports
some graphics. For delivery/view I have just uploaded (ftp) batches of
files to a folder where a very simple cf template displays the files
using cfdirectory (no metadata).

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RE: OT: issue tracker for graphics

2006-07-24 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
 Do a search on Google for "digital asset management". Lots of choices,
| from free to $$$.

Thanks -- i'll take a peek. I didn't really know what to google for.
(that term sounds more for storing/catalouging though, which is not what
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