Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Couldn't you just turn line numbers on and scroll to the bottom?







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-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wed Sep 13 04:09:53 2006
Subject: Lines of code counter

Anybody got a tool that'd read all the files in my neverendingcart.cfc
application, and tell me how many thousands of lines of code are in it? 

That'd be a cool tool!

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread James Holmes
ROFL! I think he wants all of the files in one go, rather than just
one file at a time.

On 9/13/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Couldn't you just turn line numbers on and scroll to the bottom?

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Re: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

2006-09-13 Thread Ryan Mitchell
thanks, but i still just get a null pointer error.
that returns false for me which is just graceful error catching...
did you get an array (or struct) returned?

Got it. 

cftry
cfset f =
CreateObject(webservice,http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl;)
cfdump var=#f#
cfset code = f.listDirectory(d:\\wwwroot\\ryanmitchell.co.uk\\www\\)
cfdump var=#code#
cfcatch type=any
   cfoutputp#cfcatch.message#/p
   pCaught an exception, type = #CFCATCH.TYPE# /p br /
StackTrace: br/
   cfloop index = i from = 1 to = #ArrayLen(CFCATCH.TAGCONTEXT)#
   cfset sCurrent = #CFCATCH.TAGCONTEXT[i]#
   p#sCurrent[ID]# #cfcatch.Message#br
   Error Detail: #cfcatch.Detail#br
   Line: #sCurrent[LINE]#br
   Column: #sCurrent[COLUMN]#br
   Template: #sCurrent[TEMPLATE]#/p
   /cfloop
   /cfoutput
/cfcatch 
/cftry

Notice the directory being passed needs double slashes to escape them.

!k

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From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

I'm getting the object dump easily with this:

cfset f =
CreateObject(webservice,http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl;)
cfdump var=#f#

I'm taking a look at the service itself now...

!k

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

i couldnt get to the stage where i could use it

thanks for the help, if its not asking too much, you can have a go yourself.

webservice is at: http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl
method: listDirectory
parameters: dir - d:\wwwroot\ryanmitchell.co.uk\www\

i made a basic php test SOAP client, which gives:
http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/phptest.php

very frustrating!!
Ryan

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Re: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

2006-09-13 Thread Ryan Mitchell
thanks, but i still just get a null pointer error.
that returns false for me which is just graceful error catching...
did you get an array (or struct) returned?

Got it. 

cftry
cfset f =
CreateObject(webservice,http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl;)
cfdump var=#f#
cfset code = f.listDirectory(d:\\wwwroot\\ryanmitchell.co.uk\\www\\)
cfdump var=#code#
cfcatch type=any
   cfoutputp#cfcatch.message#/p
   pCaught an exception, type = #CFCATCH.TYPE# /p br /
StackTrace: br/
   cfloop index = i from = 1 to = #ArrayLen(CFCATCH.TAGCONTEXT)#
   cfset sCurrent = #CFCATCH.TAGCONTEXT[i]#
   p#sCurrent[ID]# #cfcatch.Message#br
   Error Detail: #cfcatch.Detail#br
   Line: #sCurrent[LINE]#br
   Column: #sCurrent[COLUMN]#br
   Template: #sCurrent[TEMPLATE]#/p
   /cfloop
   /cfoutput
/cfcatch 
/cftry

Notice the directory being passed needs double slashes to escape them.

!k

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

I'm getting the object dump easily with this:

cfset f =
CreateObject(webservice,http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl;)
cfdump var=#f#

I'm taking a look at the service itself now...

!k

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

i couldnt get to the stage where i could use it

thanks for the help, if its not asking too much, you can have a go yourself.

webservice is at: http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl
method: listDirectory
parameters: dir - d:\wwwroot\ryanmitchell.co.uk\www\

i made a basic php test SOAP client, which gives:
http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/phptest.php

very frustrating!!
Ryan

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Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Saturday 09 September 2006 08:25, Massimo Foti wrote:
 In DW, open the find and replace dialog, then select specific tag from
 the search drop-down. That's a kind of functionality that I haven't seen
 elsewhere and can be really useful whenever you work on a tag based

Why not just search in Eclipse for 'yourtagname' ?

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Re: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 00:06, Russ wrote:
 Does anyone actually run X-Windows on a production server?  I've found it
 to be very unstable, and in general you shouldn't run X on a production web
 server.

I don't, but not because it's unstable (hell, my desktop is runing Xgl wobbly 
windows funkyness !) - it's just another service that the software doesn't 
need, so part of hardening the O/S is to turn it off.

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Re: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 00:01, Doug Brown wrote:
 Well, kind of like windows desktop interface. I am willing to learn all the
 command line stuff, but in my opinion it will slow down the process of
 managing my server if that is the only way to go.

It will to begin with yes.

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Denny Valliant
Due to a tragic EOL mishap, I've only got one line of code.

Oh woe is me!

At least a simple file count gets the job done now... O.o

On 9/13/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ROFL! I think he wants all of the files in one go, rather than just
 one file at a time.

 On 9/13/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Couldn't you just turn line numbers on and scroll to the bottom?

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 04:09, Will Tomlinson wrote:
 Anybody got a tool that'd read all the files in my neverendingcart.cfc
 application, and tell me how many thousands of lines of code are in it?

The GNU tool 'wc' is what you want.

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PDFBox

2006-09-13 Thread Gareth Hughes
Anyone using PDFBox to extract PDF content on CF 7 (standard)? I'm doing it 
on CF 6 but does anyone know of any issues with using it on 7?

If anyone knows alternative solutions for extracting pdf text on 7 that 
would be great too :)

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Re: PDFBox

2006-09-13 Thread James Holmes
Do you by any chance use Oracle? Oracle Text has good tools to do this.

On 9/13/06, Gareth Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone using PDFBox to extract PDF content on CF 7 (standard)? I'm doing it
 on CF 6 but does anyone know of any issues with using it on 7?

 If anyone knows alternative solutions for extracting pdf text on 7 that
 would be great too :)

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Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Massimo Foti
 On Saturday 09 September 2006 08:25, Massimo Foti wrote:
 In DW, open the find and replace dialog, then select specific tag from
 the search drop-down. That's a kind of functionality that I haven't 
 seen
 elsewhere and can be really useful whenever you work on a tag based

 Why not just search in Eclipse for 'yourtagname' ?

I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that kind 
of functionality in DW.
It offers much more than just finding a specific tag. Give it a try and you 
will see by yourself.


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Re: PDFBox

2006-09-13 Thread Paul Hastings
Gareth Hughes wrote:
 Anyone using PDFBox to extract PDF content on CF 7 (standard)? I'm doing it 
 on CF 6 but does anyone know of any issues with using it on 7?

beside it not doing arabic/farsi unicode text it works ok under cf7 from our 
limited testing in july. note that hebrew appears to work ok, so it's not an 
RTL 
thing.

i suppose the adobe XPAAJ lib might also work for this (though i've never tried 
it). ben's published a few articles/tags on using this library.

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Re: Fusion Reactor issues

2006-09-13 Thread Andreas Tattersall
Hello Rick,

Actually ColdFusion is running within a FusionReactor container, so even when 
CF is overloaded you should still be able to access FR. It was designed this 
way.

What URL are you using to access FR? Over a normal URL your webserver (IIS?) 
could become unresponsive when CF starts to clog up.

This is why FusionReactor runs it's own backup web server, so you can always 
access it as long as your JAVA RUNTIME is still alive (which in this case it 
is). By default the FR Webserver is on port 8088, so your URL should look like 
this:

http://your.machineName.com:8088/fusionreactor/fhtml.cfm?mode=login

I also recommend setting up crash protection to limit the number of 
simultanious requests, requests which run for too long or use too much memory. 
This will help your server stay responsive.

For more information on how to configure FR please take a look at:

http://www.fusion-reactor.com/support.html

I hope that helps! If you need more detailed information you could always email 
the FR support guys at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,
Andreas
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Maureen Barger wrote:
 Can you:
 -adjust your jvm memory settings so you have more available memory for CF?
 -adjust your FR settings so it doesn't kill threads, or at least allow
 more threads until it starts killing them off?

Raise the level of the rivers, and the rocks won't be noticeable.

 Unfortunately FR is within the CF container, so if CF is unresponsive, FR
 will be too. :(

Okay, however, once CF becomes responsive again, how do I get Fusion 
Reactor to reconnect to my instance?  It seems that the only way to do 
so is to restart Coldfusion, which is undesirable.

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Here is one that I used before just to check it out. Right now my app has
12,849 lines


Suwt! Thank you!

I'll post my line count later. 

Will

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Here is one that I used before just to check it out. Right now my app has
12,849 lines


Ok, I just checked mine and it's NASA code as I expected. lol

21,309 lines of code in my neverendingcart.cfc app. 

Will

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Mark Stanton
Current have 31,306 lines half way through development of a project to
replace a 107,000 line spaghetti monster.


On 9/13/06, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is one that I used before just to check it out. Right now my app has
 12,849 lines


 Ok, I just checked mine and it's NASA code as I expected. lol

 21,309 lines of code in my neverendingcart.cfc app.

 Will

 

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Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 10:23, Massimo Foti wrote:
 I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that kind
 of functionality in DW.

Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried.
Very bad experience. 
I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-)

 It offers much more than just finding a specific tag. Give it a try and you
 will see by yourself.

Uh, OK, but:
1) My desktop runs Linux
2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare
3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ? Have you 
entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ?

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Here is one that I used before just to check it out. Right now my app has
12,849 lines

Mine is 15,976.
I slightly modified your code which had a couple of problems:
1. it was reading all files, including images,
2. it bugs on files with no extension.
3. added extension TXT since I have multilingual strings in txt files.

cfdirectory directory=C:\inetsrv\wwwroot\FAFO action=list name=mySite
filter=* sort=directory recurse=yes
cfset totalLines = 0
!---loop over all the files and filter on list of extensions---
cfloop query=mySite
 cfif type eq file
  cfif listLen(name, '.') GT 1 AND
cfc,cfm,xml,as,sql,css,html,txt CONTAINS listGetAt(name, 2, '.')
   !---create an array of line items (parse by ascii carriage return and
output the name of the file---
  cffile action=read file=#directory#\#name# variable=curFile 
   cfset myArray = listToArray(curFile, #Chr(13)#)
   cfoutput#name#br //cfoutput
   !---add current files line count to total---
   cfset totalLines = totalLines + arrayLen(myArray)
  /cfif
 /cfif
/cfloop
!---output line count total---
cfoutput#totalLines#/cfoutput

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Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Massimo Foti
 I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that
 kind
 of functionality in DW.

 Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried.
 Very bad experience.
 I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-)

I am not attached to use DW as it may seems. If you read the comments I
posted along the years (including this thread) you can see by yourself.

I currently use a mix of DW, Homesite and CFEclipse to write CFML, I think 
they are all missing in different areas.

I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the
lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for
..NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java.

CFEclipse could have the potential to be that kind of tool but, in my own 
opinion, it's not there yet.



 2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare
 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ?

This could give you an idea, unfurtunately is missing
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/dreamweaver/8/using/14_tex61.htm



 Have you
 entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ?

It's too much hassle :-)

  
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Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Mark Drew
Massimo

I would very much apreciate if you could add specific features that
you would like to see in CFEclipse to the issue tracker
(http://trac.cfeclipse.org)

All you need to do is register and add some ideas of functionality
that its missing and I shall have a look and see what I can do.

Regards

Mark Drew

On 9/13/06, Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that
  kind
  of functionality in DW.
 
  Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried.
  Very bad experience.
  I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-)

 I am not attached to use DW as it may seems. If you read the comments I
 posted along the years (including this thread) you can see by yourself.

 I currently use a mix of DW, Homesite and CFEclipse to write CFML, I think
 they are all missing in different areas.

 I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the
 lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for
 ..NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java.

 CFEclipse could have the potential to be that kind of tool but, in my own
 opinion, it's not there yet.



  2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare
  3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ?

 This could give you an idea, unfurtunately is missing
 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/dreamweaver/8/using/14_tex61.htm



  Have you
  entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ?

 It's too much hassle :-)

 
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 http://www.massimocorner.com
 




 

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Re: setting info in an application

2006-09-13 Thread daniel kessler
 I have a directory without an application file where there is 

Why not just write out to a 'includethistext.txt' file on the protected
form's action, ideally outside the webroot, but if all you need is
protection you can do it in the protected directory.

Then on the unprotected form, read that file in using CFFILE from the
location that you know you wrote it out to and then display it on the
unprotected form.

That way, if the application goes down, when it comes back up, it still
has the file to read from.

I feel I'm missing something in your explanation though.

No, I don't think that you're missing anything.  I was thinking of includes and 
application variables and hadn't used cfFile in quite a while so I didn't think 
of it.
Is there any reason why I shouldn't just write out a .cfm so that I can easily 
include it and that can designate multiple variables instead of 1 piece of 
text.  I find it talking over the project that there's probably 3 pieces of 
text.

thank you.

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RE: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Peterson, Chris
Wow, after almost 5 years of developing reports, web systems, document
imaging, etc, I am over 650,000 lines of code on my production box.  

Granted, some was done many years ago and I'm not TOO proud of... but it
still counts =)

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Lines of code counter

 Here is one that I used before just to check it out. Right now my app
has
12,849 lines

Mine is 15,976.
I slightly modified your code which had a couple of problems:
1. it was reading all files, including images, 2. it bugs on files with
no extension.
3. added extension TXT since I have multilingual strings in txt files.

cfdirectory directory=C:\inetsrv\wwwroot\FAFO action=list
name=mySite
filter=* sort=directory recurse=yes cfset totalLines = 0
!---loop over all the files and filter on list of extensions---
cfloop query=mySite  cfif type eq file
  cfif listLen(name, '.') GT 1 AND
cfc,cfm,xml,as,sql,css,html,txt CONTAINS listGetAt(name, 2, '.')
   !---create an array of line items (parse by ascii carriage return
and output the name of the file---
  cffile action=read file=#directory#\#name# variable=curFile

   cfset myArray = listToArray(curFile, #Chr(13)#)
   cfoutput#name#br //cfoutput
   !---add current files line count to total---
   cfset totalLines = totalLines + arrayLen(myArray)
  /cfif
 /cfif
/cfloop
!---output line count total---
cfoutput#totalLines#/cfoutput

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RE: setting info in an application

2006-09-13 Thread COLLIE David
 No, I don't think that you're missing anything.  I was 
 thinking of includes and application variables and hadn't 
 used cfFile in quite a while so I didn't think of it.
 Is there any reason why I shouldn't just write out a .cfm so 
 that I can easily include it and that can designate multiple 
 variables instead of 1 piece of text.  I find it talking over 
 the project that there's probably 3 pieces of text.

I just used a *.txt without much though other than it was mentioned that
it was to hold text.

There would be no problem writing out to a *.cfm file and setting
variables to be used in the unprotected form via cfinclude.

Once caveat is that if you write out to a *.cfm, then CF will interpret
that and you may have to ensure strict security to ensure that no
malicious CFML code can ever enter that file.

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Re: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 12:27, Claude Schneegans wrote:
  Here is one that I used before just to check it out. Right now my app
   has

 12,849 lines

Isn't 
find . -name '*cfc' -o -name '*cfm'  -o -name '*xml'  -o -name '*as'  -o -name 
'*sql'  -o -name '*css'  -o -name '*html'  -o -name '*txt' |
xargs wc -l|tail -1
much, much quicker ?

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Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 12:40, Massimo Foti wrote:
 I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is the
 lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio for
 ..NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java.

I agree - and this isn't a new problem - ever since about CFMX6 Homesite has 
got less and less usefull compaired to JEdit, Eclipse or other products that 
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Re: Strange Behavior on Local PC

2006-09-13 Thread Kris Jones
 cfform action=temp.cfm method=post
 Address: cfinput type=text name=address size=40 maxlength=50 
 required=yes message=Please enter your address validateat=onServer
 input type=submit value=Submit Form
 /cfform

 When I submit the form without entering anything in the field, I should get a 
 CF generated error message that the form entry is incomplete. Code behaves 
 properly on my test and production server, but not my local machine running 
 Win XP SP2. Instead of displaying this error, it displays nothing. And I 
 really mean nothing, a completely blank page. Viewing the source shows the 
 same thing, nothing. If I change the validateat to onSubmit it behaves 
 properly, with a Javascript error.


Probably a stupid suggestions, but... have you submitted the form both
by hitting Enter key and by actually clicking the submit button?
Years ago I used to see this behavior submitting forms that have only
a single field other than the submit, where certain circumstances will
cause the field to not post. This is not a CF issue. I can't remember
whether it was an IE-specific thing (along the lines of how IE doesn't
pass the name of the submit button when enter key is used to submit).

Cheers,
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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Tom McNeer
I'll throw in another vote for MG:Unity. I've built applications using
Mach-II, and Model-Glue seems cleaner and easier. But that's just me ...

Either works well for application building.

I will say that MG makes it so simple to separate pieces of your
presentation that I'm currently using it for what is essentially a static
site, just to keep the pieces of layout and content discrete.



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Re: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Jake Churchill
You could always install it and default the system to run level 3

Russ wrote:
 Does anyone actually run X-Windows on a production server?  I've found it to
 be very unstable, and in general you shouldn't run X on a production web
 server. 

 You will need to learn command line to administer those servers.  Some tasks
 can be automated using webmin or Plesk or something, but eventually you'll
 have to do some command line stuff. 

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 X Windows is the basis for the graphic shells that come with most Linux
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RE: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

2006-09-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
The one thing I can absolutely guarantee is that the closer it gets to
being there the less and less I will use it, that's for sure!

Thanks,
 
Ken Ferguson
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-Original Message-
From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Holy crap I like CFEclipse!

 I don't want to sound rude, but it's clear to me you never tried that
 kind
 of functionality in DW.

 Never used DW for CFML editing, no, not after the first time I tried.
 Very bad experience.
 I'm now just as dedicated to not using as you are too using it :-)

I am not attached to use DW as it may seems. If you read the comments I
posted along the years (including this thread) you can see by yourself.

I currently use a mix of DW, Homesite and CFEclipse to write CFML, I
think 
they are all missing in different areas.

I actually think that the number one issue CF developers are facing is
the
lack of a state of the art IDE. Something equivalent to Visual Studio
for
...NET, Zend Studio for PHP, IntellJ or Eclipse for Java.

CFEclipse could have the potential to be that kind of tool but, in my
own 
opinion, it's not there yet.



 2) It's too much hassle to download and install it in WINE or VMWare
 3) The 'specific tag' option does more than finding by tag name ?

This could give you an idea, unfurtunately is missing
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/dreamweaver/8/using/14_tex61.htm



 Have you
 entered that into the CFEclipse issue tracker ?

It's too much hassle :-)

  
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RE: compacting mssql tables.

2006-09-13 Thread Gaulin, Mark
I've found that the best way is to do two commands:

DBCC CHECKIDENT (authors, RESEED, 0) 
DBCC CHECKIDENT (authors, RESEED) 

The first sets the auto-increment number to zero (then it counts up till
it finds an open number), and the second moves the auto-increment beyond
the largest existing value.  Doing only one or the other wasn't as
good... if there are any gaps in your existing auto-increment values
then doing the first one alone will eventually cause primary key
violations (assuming the auto-increment field is a primary key)

Mark

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:12 AM
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Subject: RE: compacting mssql tables.

Daniel,

Hi there, rather than recreate a table I would like to compact it, so 
the increment seed counter refreshes starting at 1. Is there a way to
do this?

You've got a couple of options.

1) You can use TRUNCATE TABLE authors to wipe the table and restore
the identity seed.

2) Use DBCC CHECKIDENT(authors, RESEED, 1) to reset the seed to 1
(or any number you want to reseed to.)

NOTE: The table name in the above examples is authors.

If you use the DBCC CHECKINDENT w/RESEED option, just make sure you pick
a starting seed *greater than* the highest identity value in the table.
(If you've deleted all the rows, this isn't an issue.)

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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
I'm wondering if anyone can make any recommendations on a good book on Model
Glue, as well as some of the other popular frameworks.  I've never worked
with any of them and I'm thinking about taking the plunge.


On 9/13/06 9:19 AM, Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'll throw in another vote for MG:Unity. I've built applications using
 Mach-II, and Model-Glue seems cleaner and easier. But that's just me ...
 
 Either works well for application building.
 
 I will say that MG makes it so simple to separate pieces of your
 presentation that I'm currently using it for what is essentially a static
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RE: Lines of code counter

2006-09-13 Thread Andy Matthews
My text editor has line numbering features. SURELY whatever editor you're
using has the same thing. Even Dreamweaver's code view has line numbering.

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Anybody got a tool that'd read all the files in my neverendingcart.cfc
application, and tell me how many thousands of lines of code are in it?

That'd be a cool tool!

Will


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Odd installation issue

2006-09-13 Thread ken
I've got a Windows 03 server on which I installed MX7 yesterday. After
getting it all installed, I browse to the administrator and get the
configuration wizard screen. I type in the admin password and submit.
Then it goes to the next page for about one second before it pops back
to the login screen. I know the password I'm typing is correct, because
when I type a bad one in it tells me that it's not the right password.
There's a continue link on that next page and I've tried clicking it
really quickly before the page changes, but that doesn't help either. I
put a test.cfm file in the web root with just a cfdump var=#server#
inside of it. When I browse to that file, it works as expected, so it's
serving CF pages just fine. I just can't get into the administrator
because I can't get past the config thing. Has anybody seen that before
or does anyone have any ideas?
 
Thanks,
 
Ken Ferguson
214.636.6126
 
 
 



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RE: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Che Vilnonis
I'd also like to know... books or online resources.

-Original Message-
From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Framework


I'm wondering if anyone can make any recommendations on a good book on Model
Glue, as well as some of the other popular frameworks.  I've never worked
with any of them and I'm thinking about taking the plunge.


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Re: setting info in an application

2006-09-13 Thread daniel kessler
Once caveat is that if you write out to a *.cfm, then CF will interpret
that and you may have to ensure strict security to ensure that no
malicious CFML code can ever enter that file.

Yeah that was a fear of mine.  I have the directory protected but I suppose all 
protections can be worked-around.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Odd installation issue

2006-09-13 Thread Teddy Payne
Do you have Norton Anti-Virus installed on this server?  If you do, turn
that beast off until install is complete.

Teddy

On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got a Windows 03 server on which I installed MX7 yesterday. After
 getting it all installed, I browse to the administrator and get the
 configuration wizard screen. I type in the admin password and submit.
 Then it goes to the next page for about one second before it pops back
 to the login screen. I know the password I'm typing is correct, because
 when I type a bad one in it tells me that it's not the right password.
 There's a continue link on that next page and I've tried clicking it
 really quickly before the page changes, but that doesn't help either. I
 put a test.cfm file in the web root with just a cfdump var=#server#
 inside of it. When I browse to that file, it works as expected, so it's
 serving CF pages just fine. I just can't get into the administrator
 because I can't get past the config thing. Has anybody seen that before
 or does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks,

 Ken Ferguson
 214.636.6126






 

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RE: Odd installation issue

2006-09-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
Nope, no NAV running. Though I would expect it to cause problems before
this point, but not AT this point. Once you get to the point where
you're in the web browser hitting the administrator, I'd expect no
problems out of an av scanner.

Thanks,
Ferg
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Odd installation issue

Do you have Norton Anti-Virus installed on this server?  If you do, turn
that beast off until install is complete.

Teddy

On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got a Windows 03 server on which I installed MX7 yesterday. After
 getting it all installed, I browse to the administrator and get the
 configuration wizard screen. I type in the admin password and submit.
 Then it goes to the next page for about one second before it pops back
 to the login screen. I know the password I'm typing is correct,
because
 when I type a bad one in it tells me that it's not the right password.
 There's a continue link on that next page and I've tried clicking it
 really quickly before the page changes, but that doesn't help either.
I
 put a test.cfm file in the web root with just a cfdump
var=#server#
 inside of it. When I browse to that file, it works as expected, so
it's
 serving CF pages just fine. I just can't get into the administrator
 because I can't get past the config thing. Has anybody seen that
before
 or does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks,

 Ken Ferguson
 214.636.6126






 



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Re: SOT Database design

2006-09-13 Thread Victor Moore
Thank you all for the reply.

I think I will go with the normalized approach. One master table and then a
separate table for each type of event.

Regards
Victor

On 9/12/06, Tom Kitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just don't forget that its faster to query DB directly then use a View
 (not
 by much) - rather then creating a view invest your time into a stored
 procedure(s). Should you use Stored Proc instead of straight SQL - well if
 you do a lot of querying most likely yes, if not then you may go with ad
 hoc
 SQL.

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:54 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SOT Database design


 Knowing that future event types may be added, I vote for option 1. It
 feels wrong to have have a bunch of sometimes unnecessary fields. If
 you're on MSSQL (probably doable in other DBs, but I wouldn't know),
 you can set up 'views' which look like a table to CF, but do the join
 you are talking about.



 On 9/12/06, Tom Kitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  With the example you describe you can get away with a single table
 unless
  you predict changes in the future or application revolves around these
  events etc. Example: ColdFusion error logger - logs different
  ColdFusion errors. You can just have one error table and record all
 possible
  error properties that CF can throw even through non-SQL error will not
 have
  SQL info in them. I use single table and don't even bother recording
 most
  events in separate fields.
 
  On the other hand more database normalized approach would be to have
 more
  than one table - for example event master table, linked to event type
 and
  say event line item table with event line item type table. 4 tables -
 you
  can model all different event types now - normalized ... but does you
  application need this?
 
  In short if the events are important to the application, its central
 part,
  do the normalized approach. If they are just a side thing and your
  application development budget is not through the roof, you can settle
 down
  for one table approach (if the events are not very disjoint - otherwise
 you
  have no choice).
 
  TK
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:14 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SOT Database design
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I have a database design question. I have to model a db to capture
 multiple
  types of events. While all of them are events the information needed to
 be
  captured for each subcategory of event is quite different.
  I think there are (at least) two ways of doing it:
  1. Have a master event table that captures all the information that is
  common to all events and then have other tables that capture information
  that is specifically to each category linked to the master table.
  2. Use just one table to capture all the information needed for all
 types
 of
  events.
 
  Not sure which one will be the best approach from a point of view of
 speed
  and maintenance.
  In the first case I will need a joint between the tables to retrieve all
 the
  info about an event, but has the advantage that if a new event type is
  required I can add it without modifying the existing code.
  In the second case no joint, so easier retrieval but maybe a little bit
 more
  involved if I need to expend it.
 
  Anyone has any suggestions?
 
  Thanks
  Victor
 
  PS Platform will be CFMX 7.x, MS-SQL 2005  and I estimate about 5k
 events
  per year with about 45-50 columns if using just one table
 
 
 
 
 



 

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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Matt Williams
On 9/13/06, Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd also like to know... books or online resources.

No books yet. Online stuff only. Sample apps seem to be more plentiful
than anything.

Depending on your background, the trickiest part of either MG or Mach
II will be the OO side of it. Learning how to structure the backend
side (i.e., model) will take some trial and error. The sample apps are
good for this.

Any official documentation is on the respective websites for Model
Glue (http://model-glue.com/) and Mach II (http://www.mach-ii.com/).
Docs are also included in the download.

Join the lists for each if you have questions and to follow developments.

Sean Corfield has sample apps in both.
So does Brian Kotek.
Matt Woodward and Peter Farrell are the guys for Mach II. Go to their
blogs and filter by category. Also see MachBlog.org for full blown
blog built in MachII.

Probably the best tutorial to get you going in Model Glue is Raymond
Camden's. This is a pre-Unity tutorial, but I would actually recommend
first learning the pre-Unity version. That way you are focused only on
the MG framework. Then learn ColdSpring and Reactor. Then see how Joe
Rinehart took the three and created Unity.

FYI - Mach II also plays well with ColdSpring and Reactor. The Mach II
guys have decided not to incorporate those directly into that
framework, but to do so yourself is quite easy. Brian has his sample
bookstore app in this. I can't remember if Sean did M2/CS/Reactor or
not.

Rob Gonda has AJAX examples in both MG and M2

Use google to search on names mentioned


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Re: Odd installation issue

2006-09-13 Thread Teddy Payne
I have had NAV stop at the point speak of it.  NAV has a habit of thinking
java changes are virus related.

Other than NAV, I have not seen a stopping point at the configuration
before.  Typically if you get the configuration after deployment, your
installation was successful enough to execute CFML correctly.

Sorry,

Teddy

On 9/13/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nope, no NAV running. Though I would expect it to cause problems before
 this point, but not AT this point. Once you get to the point where
 you're in the web browser hitting the administrator, I'd expect no
 problems out of an av scanner.

 Thanks,
 Ferg



 -Original Message-
 From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:17 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Odd installation issue

 Do you have Norton Anti-Virus installed on this server?  If you do, turn
 that beast off until install is complete.

 Teddy

 On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've got a Windows 03 server on which I installed MX7 yesterday. After
  getting it all installed, I browse to the administrator and get the
  configuration wizard screen. I type in the admin password and submit.
  Then it goes to the next page for about one second before it pops back
  to the login screen. I know the password I'm typing is correct,
 because
  when I type a bad one in it tells me that it's not the right password.
  There's a continue link on that next page and I've tried clicking it
  really quickly before the page changes, but that doesn't help either.
 I
  put a test.cfm file in the web root with just a cfdump
 var=#server#
  inside of it. When I browse to that file, it works as expected, so
 it's
  serving CF pages just fine. I just can't get into the administrator
  because I can't get past the config thing. Has anybody seen that
 before
  or does anyone have any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Ken Ferguson
  214.636.6126
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 

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RE: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error

2006-09-13 Thread Ian Skinner
I just run this example this morning and I received and array [empty] result.

cfset testObj = 
createObject(webservice,http://www.ryanmitchell.co.uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl;)

cfdump var=#testObj#

cfset testDir = 
testObj.listDirectory(d:\\wwwroot\\ryanmitchell.co.uk\\www\\)

cfdump var=#testDir#


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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Brian Rinaldi
If I may take a brief break from the admittedly well-deserved praise for
MG:U and discuss why I am choosing not to use it. I was using MG 1.1 but I
have decided to switch to Mach ii because I, personally, am not fond of the
integrated MG:U/Reactor. I know you can use MG without Reactor, but that
doesn't seem to be the focus of it (and I know I have seen posts mentioning
that Reactor can impact your load times unless you specifically disable it
in MG:U). I have on my blog expressed my dislike of three things that you
need to consider when choosing MG:U (some of which specifically relate to
the Reactor integration).

One is the active record pattern, which Reactor uses. I think the active
record pattern reduces the flexibility of your application - I always use
the example that if you decide that Reactor is too much of a drag on your
site's performance, you will have a hell of a time ripping it out or trying
to recreate aspects of it. I also am not fond of scaffolds, as I think in
most cases they aren't very useful - however they are totally optional I
suppose so I am not going to make a big fuss about them. Lastly, I just
don't think Reactor is there yet. It is a great concept that Doug has put a
lot of work into, but it seems to me that enormous scope and complexity has
caused it to be error plagued. I am on the list and I often feel inundated
with Reactor issues.

Personally, I have chosen to move to Mach ii. I believe it is a solid
framework and isn't all that different from straight MG (i.e. like the
1.1days) - mostly some verb changes. I like that it wants to be a
solid
framework and only that. If you want added functionality, there are a number
of plugins available from the community (and some pre-packaged but not
pre-loaded). I am also finding it is not as complex as it is portrayed - I
compare it to driving stick while MG:U is automatic. I prefer stick...I like
the fine tuned control it gives you.

Anyway, as this post is full of MG:U fans, I am not ripping on MG:U or
trying to start some framework flame war. I just think that you need to get
past the hype a bit when choosing a framework. This may mean that you still
choose MG:U, but it is worth considering the alternatives (Mach ii, Fusebox
and ColdBox).

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CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Victor Moore
Hi,

I have seen in a number of examples the following:

cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg /
any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local
variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?

Thanks
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RE: Odd installation issue

2006-09-13 Thread Ken Ferguson
That has been my experience every other time too. This is the first time
I've ever had any issue with installation and that's a LOT of
installations! I'll try disabling everything else that's running on the
box that I can disable and see if I can get it to go past that step. The
strangest thing is that it serves CF pages just fine; it's just the
admin that I can't get into. Surely there should be a method for making
an end-run around that bit and configuring anything that it missed by
hand?

I was hoping I'd get someone post who had this exact same problem last
week and fixed it by doing x. No such luck though, huh?

Thanks,
 
Ken Ferguson
214.636.6126

 
 

-Original Message-
From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Odd installation issue

I have had NAV stop at the point speak of it.  NAV has a habit of
thinking
java changes are virus related.

Other than NAV, I have not seen a stopping point at the configuration
before.  Typically if you get the configuration after deployment, your
installation was successful enough to execute CFML correctly.

Sorry,

Teddy

On 9/13/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nope, no NAV running. Though I would expect it to cause problems
before
 this point, but not AT this point. Once you get to the point where
 you're in the web browser hitting the administrator, I'd expect no
 problems out of an av scanner.

 Thanks,
 Ferg



 -Original Message-
 From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:17 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Odd installation issue

 Do you have Norton Anti-Virus installed on this server?  If you do,
turn
 that beast off until install is complete.

 Teddy

 On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've got a Windows 03 server on which I installed MX7 yesterday.
After
  getting it all installed, I browse to the administrator and get the
  configuration wizard screen. I type in the admin password and
submit.
  Then it goes to the next page for about one second before it pops
back
  to the login screen. I know the password I'm typing is correct,
 because
  when I type a bad one in it tells me that it's not the right
password.
  There's a continue link on that next page and I've tried clicking
it
  really quickly before the page changes, but that doesn't help
either.
 I
  put a test.cfm file in the web root with just a cfdump
 var=#server#
  inside of it. When I browse to that file, it works as expected, so
 it's
  serving CF pages just fine. I just can't get into the administrator
  because I can't get past the config thing. Has anybody seen that
 before
  or does anyone have any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Ken Ferguson
  214.636.6126
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Adrian Lynch
So you have the original value maybe?

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 September 2006 15:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFC question


Hi,

I have seen in a number of examples the following:

cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg /
any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local
variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?

Thanks
Victor

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Re: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 9/13/06, Victor Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have seen in a number of examples the following:

 cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg /
 any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local
 variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?


In that example, variables.myVar is not *local*. It's *global* to the
CFC such that *any* method in that CFC has access to its value. Now,
if the code said:

cfset var myVar = arguments.someArg /

then that might just be for creating a short-hand reference to the value.

In CFCs, the variables scope is global, meaning that any method of
the CFC (and any sub-classes, by the way), has access to its value. If
you want a truly local variable for a method, use the var setting,
as noted above.

Regards,
Dave.

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RE: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread COLLIE David
 I have seen in a number of examples the following:
 
 cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg / any particular 
 reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local 
 variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?


To make it persistant in the lifetime of the CFC

See Ray Camden's site for a explaniation of the scopes within a CFC
which says it way better than I could.

http://ray.camdenfamily.com/downloads/cfcscopes.pdf


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RE: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Andy Matthews
Most likely so that if someone changes the argument name you only have to
change it once, instead of each time that it appears inside of the function.

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-Original Message-
From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFC question


Hi,

I have seen in a number of examples the following:

cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg /
any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local
variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?

Thanks
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Re: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 14:21, Jake Churchill wrote:
 You could always install it and default the system to run level 3

This still leaves the executables around though, of course.

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Re: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Syntax like that is usually used within an init() method to set a passed 
variable to the CFCs global variable scope to be used by other methods. When 
a CFC is cached or called outside of a one shot invoke, this is a must to 
prevent having to pass the variable in again and again.
For example, someone would do the following:
CFSET objectreference=Createobject('component', 
'testobject').init('datasourcename')
CFSET objectreference.getuser(userid)

In the second line, there is no need to send in the datasource name as it 
was sent in when the object was created.


 Hi,

 I have seen in a number of examples the following:

 cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg /
 any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local
 variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?

 Thanks
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Re: PDFBox

2006-09-13 Thread Gareth Hughes
Cool, thanks for the info Paul. I'll give it a try then.

And no James, unfortunately not using Oracle. Thanks for the heads up 
though.

Cheers
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Gareth Hughes wrote:
 Anyone using PDFBox to extract PDF content on CF 7 (standard)? I'm doing 
 it
 on CF 6 but does anyone know of any issues with using it on 7?

beside it not doing arabic/farsi unicode text it works ok under cf7 from 
our
limited testing in july. note that hebrew appears to work ok, so it's not an 
RTL
thing.

i suppose the adobe XPAAJ lib might also work for this (though i've never 
tried
it). ben's published a few articles/tags on using this library.



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RE: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Ryan, Terrence
Typically if you are doing manipulation of the value, you don't want to alter 
the input value, but rather a copy of it. 

Cfset var firstName = Trim(arguments.firstname) /
Vs 
Cfset arguments.firstName = Trim(arguments.firstname) /

If you're not manipulating it further, then it might be a bit redundant at 
first:

Cfset var localfirstName = arguments.firstname /
 
But by writing it this way, you make sure that if further down the road, if you 
find out that whitespace is being added to the end of certain firstnames, and 
you want to add the trim operation, you don't have to add it for every 
reference to arguments.firstname.  

So it's a best practice in that it allows you for more maintainable code. 


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Senior Systems Programmer
Wharton Computing and Information Technology
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFC question

Hi,

I have seen in a number of examples the following:

cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg / any particular reason/advantage 
why the arguments are assigned to a local variable inside a cfc function 
instead of using it directly?

Thanks
Victor




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OT: log files contain screen resolution

2006-09-13 Thread Chad Gray
Sorry for the off topic, but I cant find an answer so far.

Can Apache's log files pick up the users screen resolution?  Can any web 
servers's log files?

Or is this something you need to add yourself to track?




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Re: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Jake Churchill
This just came up on something for me this morning and I read that by 
doing this, it allows your .init() function to access the variables.

Ryan, Terrence wrote:
 Typically if you are doing manipulation of the value, you don't want to alter 
 the input value, but rather a copy of it. 

 Cfset var firstName = Trim(arguments.firstname) /
 Vs 
 Cfset arguments.firstName = Trim(arguments.firstname) /

 If you're not manipulating it further, then it might be a bit redundant at 
 first:

 Cfset var localfirstName = arguments.firstname /
  
 But by writing it this way, you make sure that if further down the road, if 
 you find out that whitespace is being added to the end of certain firstnames, 
 and you want to add the trim operation, you don't have to add it for every 
 reference to arguments.firstname.  

 So it's a best practice in that it allows you for more maintainable code. 


 Terrence Ryan
 Senior Systems Programmer
 Wharton Computing and Information Technology
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

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 From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:54 AM
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 Subject: CFC question

 Hi,

 I have seen in a number of examples the following:

 cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg / any particular reason/advantage 
 why the arguments are assigned to a local variable inside a cfc function 
 instead of using it directly?

 Thanks
 Victor




 

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Re: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Victor Moore
Good points and nice doc by Ray. I didn't know about the variables scope
being available to the whole cfc.

Thanks
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RE: upgradeing jar file in coldfusion server

2006-09-13 Thread Leon Oosterwijk
I guess it depends on your situation. This is not a definitive list, but
these are the things I found were completely or somewhat broken with
1.5:

- ldap over ssl 
- web services 
- verity admin

To us that loss of functionality was better than Coldfusion randomly
crashing with the 1.4 jvm.  (documented linux jvm specific bug)

Leon


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  Eventhough Adobe doesn't support CFMX on 1.5 it does work, 
 with some 
  minor inconveniences.
 
 i don't know if i'd call croaking that server's webservices a 
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RE: log files contain screen resolution

2006-09-13 Thread COLLIE David
 Sorry for the off topic, but I cant find an answer so far.
 
 Can Apache's log files pick up the users screen resolution?  
 Can any web servers's log files?
 
 Or is this something you need to add yourself to track?

No, it's client side information.

You could code some javascript that fired on page load that polled a log
service your wrote passing the user's current screen resolution when the
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Re: OT: log files contain screen resolution

2006-09-13 Thread Jon Gunnip
For the webserver to capture it, I think it would have to be sent with
an HTTP request (e.g. as a CGI variable) which I don't think it is.

We caputre this information via JavaScript by setting the JS variables
screen.width and screen.height into a hidden form variable and then
processing it on the server.

Jon

On 9/13/06, Chad Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Can Apache's log files pick up the users screen resolution?  Can any web 
 servers's log files?

 Or is this something you need to add yourself to track?




 

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RE: log files contain screen resolution

2006-09-13 Thread Russ
Yes, they can, using the js file provided with urchin (and probably google
analytics).  Urchin has js that forces a download of a gif to which it
appends the screen resolution among other things.  

Russ

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 Subject: RE: log files contain screen resolution
 
  Sorry for the off topic, but I cant find an answer so far.
 
  Can Apache's log files pick up the users screen resolution?
  Can any web servers's log files?
 
  Or is this something you need to add yourself to track?
 
 No, it's client side information.
 
 You could code some javascript that fired on page load that polled a log
 service your wrote passing the user's current screen resolution when the
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RE: log files contain screen resolution

2006-09-13 Thread COLLIE David
  Yes, they can, using the js file provided with urchin (and 
 probably google analytics).  Urchin has js that forces a 
 download of a gif to which it appends the screen resolution 
 among other things.  

Hahah splitting hairs here but that is just Javascript trickery using a
gif file that will totally skew your log file analysis unless you are
aware that it is happening.  Still client side isn't it?

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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Peter Bell
To add my 2c,

Denny, Reactor isn't really a framework. It is a way to automate the 
persistence of objects. In OO programming, you often create DAOs and Gateways 
(data access objects and table data gateways) to abstract your database access 
code for single records and recordsets. Firstly, I have some issues with the 
idea of Gateays returning queries, but that is neither here nor there. Reactor 
just auto creates those.

You probably want to create a set of service objects (one per object - 
singletons created using a factory or ColdSpring if you want to be fancy!) for 
doing all of the business logic and the business objects themselves will often 
have logic (Product.getPrice() may calculate price based on your discounts or 
whatever). Then you need a controller which you can write yourself or use Model 
Glue (classic - not Unity!)  or Mach -II for.

If you are only getting started with OO, I'd thorough recommend checkout out 
all of the great blog postings on OO programming and would start there. I think 
it's quite a leap from procedural CF straight to MG Unity, and if yu had to 
jump straight to a framework, I'd consider mach-ii or Model Glue without 
Reactor and ColdSpring. ColdSpring solves a real probvlem, but have the problem 
first and then enjoy the relief i provides. Reactor also speeds development, 
but I don't think you'll fully understand the trade offs until you've written a 
few DAOs and agonized over where to put the code for joined objects (how you 
you get all of the Users in a Company - CompanyService.getUsers()? and if so, 
what DAO does it call - CompanyDAO or UserDAO). Once you've played with that 
for a while, you'll be able to choose between Reactor, Transfer (which is 
looking very interesting - Mark keep up the great work and the shameless 
plugs!), cfhibernate, or rolling your own ORM.

Best Wishes,
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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Peter Bell
To add my 2c,

Denny, Reactor isn't really a framework. It is a way to automate the 
persistence of objects. In OO programming, you often create DAOs and Gateways 
(data access objects and table data gateways) to abstract your database access 
code for single records and recordsets. Firstly, I have some issues with the 
idea of Gateays returning queries, but that is neither here nor there. Reactor 
just auto creates those.

You probably want to create a set of service objects (one per object - 
singletons created using a factory or ColdSpring if you want to be fancy!) for 
doing all of the business logic and the business objects themselves will often 
have logic (Product.getPrice() may calculate price based on your discounts or 
whatever). Then you need a controller which you can write yourself or use Model 
Glue (classic - not Unity!)  or Mach -II for.

If you are only getting started with OO, I'd thorough recommend checkout out 
all of the great blog postings on OO programming and would start there. I think 
it's quite a leap from procedural CF straight to MG Unity, and if yu had to 
jump straight to a framework, I'd consider mach-ii or Model Glue without 
Reactor and ColdSpring. ColdSpring solves a real probvlem, but have the problem 
first and then enjoy the relief i provides. Reactor also speeds development, 
but I don't think you'll fully understand the trade offs until you've written a 
few DAOs and agonized over where to put the code for joined objects (how you 
you get all of the Users in a Company - CompanyService.getUsers()? and if so, 
what DAO does it call - CompanyDAO or UserDAO). Once you've played with that 
for a while, you'll be able to choose between Reactor, Transfer (which is 
looking very interesting - Mark keep up the great work and the shameless 
plugs!), cfhibernate, or rolling your own ORM.

Best Wishes,
Peter


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Re: Image resizing

2006-09-13 Thread Larry Lyons
imageCFC (I forget who did it, maybe rick?)
Imagemagick from alagad.com
 
Russ
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Subject: Image resizing

I know I've seen this topic posted before but I need some input.  I need an
image resizing program, preferably written in Java that has the ability to
resize images but retain the quality.  What I currently use is a cfx tag
programmed in C++.  It does a good job but the smaller images always come
out pixelated which I cannot have.  Any suggestions?

There's also Massimo Foti's tmt_img.cfc. It does a fairly good job of image 
resizing.
You can look at the api and download it at http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/cfc/tmt_img/

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RE: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Russ
Executables are usually not a problem... although if they are around and
they have security holes... 

In general, unless you're using linux as a desktop, I've never found a need
for X-Windows.  Most programs need to be installed from the command line
anyway. 

Servers run a lot more stable and faster without any sort of GUI present.
This is one of the reasons that linux beats the pants off of windows.  

Webmin is more then enough and plesk makes things too easy for my taste.
Plesk also doesn't give you as much control as webmin does.  

You should probably get  a semi-dedicated box to play around with, get it
with webmin if possible (if not the installation if fairly simple as far as
I remember).  

Then start playing around with it through ssh, and learn the commands.
Maybe pick up a linux book somewhere.  My favorite flavor is Redhat, but I
haven't really played around with other flavors, so perhaps someone can
chime in here.  

Russ

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  You could always install it and default the system to run level 3
 
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Re: PHP webservice returns a Null pointer error (SOLVED)

2006-09-13 Thread Ryan Mitchell
yeah, i opted for another php SOAP library (nuSOAP), and with a bit of tweaking 
i've got it working.
thanks for all the help

 I just run this example this morning and I received and array [empty] 
 result.
 
 cfset testObj = createObject(webservice,http://www.ryanmitchell.co.
 uk/rtCMS.php?wsdl)
 
 cfdump var=#testObj#
 
 cfset testDir = testObj.listDirectory(d:\\wwwroot\\ryanmitchell.co.
 uk\\www\\)
 
 cfdump var=#testDir#
 
 
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CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site 
and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status?

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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Charlie Griefer
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ ?

On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
The variables scope, when used within a CFC, is a protected private 
scope (only accessible from within the CFC). Within the head of your 
object (after the cfcomponent tag, but prior to any functions) you may 
have a block like this:

cfscript
variables.instance = structnew();
variables.instance.firstname = ;
variables.instance.lastname = ;
variables.instance.age = 0;
/cfscript

Then you might have an init method like this:

cffunction name=init access=public output=false 
returntype=person hint=This initializes your person object
cfreturn this
/cffunction

You would then get or set the properties of your object using getter and 
setter methods, which can access the private variables scope:

cffunction name=setFirstName access=public output=false 
returntype=void hint=Sets the firstname property of this instance
cfargument name=firstname type=string required=true 
hint=firstname to set in this instance of person
cfset variables.instance.firstname = arguments.firstname
/cffunction

cffunction name=getFirstName access=public output=false 
returntype=string hint=Returns the firstname of this person instance
cfreturn variables.instance.firstname
/cffunction

So, within your calling template you might have:

cfset variables.personObj = createobject(component,person).init()

After which, the following attempt to access it's properties would 
fail/error:

#variables.personObj.firstname#

But using this would give you access:

#variables.personObj.getFirstName()#

Hope this helps:)

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Victor Moore wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have seen in a number of examples the following:
 
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 any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a local
 variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?
 
 Thanks
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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site 
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Not sure what URL you're trying, but this works fine for me (including
the links to each article):

http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/

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Re: CFDJ?

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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread James Holmes
Oh sorry, the LIST. My fault for not reading properly.

On 9/14/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The site came up for me:

 http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/

 On 9/14/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their 
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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Crow T. Robot
They probably forgot to renew the domain name.  But good news, the JDJ
domain has been renewed for the next 150 years.

On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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RE: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Ian Skinner
It is NOT the same as saying, as long as there is *one* record returned, true.

Right?

Correct, any positive integer evaluates as true in a Boolean expression.



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Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Jeff Small
cfif qMyQuery.Recordcount/cfif

is basically the same as saying, as long as there's at least one record 
returned, true. This returns true and steps into the CFIF if the recordcount 
is 1, 2, 300...

It is NOT the same as saying, as long as there is *one* record returned, true.

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RE: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Munson, Jacob
I used to be on it (still am, at least I didn't unsubscribe), but no
messages have come through for months, maybe even a year.  I was curious
one day and sent a message to the list address, and I got a delivery
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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Charlie Griefer
ooops...me too :\

On 9/13/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh sorry, the LIST. My fault for not reading properly.

 On 9/14/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The site came up for me:
 
  http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/
 
  On 9/14/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their 
   site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status?
  
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Re: XML Integration - ASP equivalent in CF

2006-09-13 Thread Darrin Bonikowsky
 -Original Message-

You would definitely add another cfhttpparam - each param equates to a
single form field (POST parameter).

Also in this case you can drop the cfoutput tags - CFOUTPUT is limited
strictly to outputting CFML expressions outside of other tags - never within
them.

Lastly your original ASP code sends the information as a plain query string
so I would think that CF should as well.  The CFHTTPPARM type value xml
has a very special meaning - it changes the whole request in fact.

Instead use the type formfield.  This will automatically URLEncode the
information (which is what the ASP code is doing).

Here's an (untested, obviously) shot at what you need:

cfhttpurl=https://secure.internetsecure.com/process.cgi;
   method=post
   cfhttpparamname=xxxRequestData
   type=formField
   value=#xmlStr#
   cfhttpparamname= xxxRequestMode
   type=formField
   value=X
/cfhttp

Hope this helps.

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Claude Schneegans
 It is NOT the same as saying, as long as there is *one* record 
returned, true.

Right, and it is also the same as saying as long as there is *at least 
one* record returned, true.

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread tanguyr
Yup - because 0 is false, but all other (positive?) numbers are true


Jeff Small wrote:
 
 cfif qMyQuery.Recordcount/cfif
 
 is basically the same as saying, as long as there's at least one
 record returned, true. This returns true and steps into the CFIF if the
 recordcount is 1, 2, 300...
 
 It is NOT the same as saying, as long as there is *one* record returned,
 true.
 
 Right?
 

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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 9/13/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh sorry, the LIST. My fault for not reading properly.


Woops, me too!

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Re: Image resizing

2006-09-13 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I had trouble resizing large images to smaller ones.  They would come
out about 20 shades darker with the tmt_img tag.  Of course, I didn't
have a better java solution, so I opted for installing ImageMagick on
the server.


On 9/13/06, Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 imageCFC (I forget who did it, maybe rick?)
 Imagemagick from alagad.com
 
 Russ
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 September 2006 22:44
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Image resizing
 
 I know I've seen this topic posted before but I need some input.  I need an
 image resizing program, preferably written in Java that has the ability to
 resize images but retain the quality.  What I currently use is a cfx tag
 programmed in C++.  It does a good job but the smaller images always come
 out pixelated which I cannot have.  Any suggestions?

 There's also Massimo Foti's tmt_img.cfc. It does a fairly good job of image 
 resizing.
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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Matt Williams
This link works for me: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/

Oops, you meant the list. I haven't seen that.
Michael probably spammed it so everyone would just switch to Fusion
Authority Quarterly.

(couldn't help it)...


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  I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their 
  site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status?
 

 Not sure what URL you're trying, but this works fine for me (including
 the links to each article):

 http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/

 Regards,
 Dave.

 

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Re: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Eric Haskins
I tunnel my VNC/X-Windows thru SSH only one port thru the firewall and it is
already a needed port! X is installed but system boots to runlevel 3 as I
find command line much faster.  As for hardening your box the object is to
not let them get in in the first place X-windows is the least of your
worries once they have access. We run RedHat ES4 for our webservers but CF
is still running on win2k3 I hope to change that soon!!

As for X being unstable I run RedHat WS4 on my workstation install was super
easy. Of course I also run VMware Workstation 5 (running XP) so I can access
corp email. AD Admin wont join my Linux box to the domain.

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Re: XML Integration - ASP equivalent in CF

2006-09-13 Thread Darrin Bonikowsky
Thanks so much for your reply, Jim!

FYI - this was my final solution. Not entirely sure where I initially missed 
the boat, but 2 formfields and including the xml version tag within the 
cfhttpparam name / value pair explicity vs. as part of the xml string seemed to 
do it.

cfhttp url=https://secure.internetsecure.com/process.cgi; method=post
cfhttpparam name=xxxRequestMode type=formfield value=X
cfhttpparam name=xxxRequestData type=formfield value=?xml version='1.0' 
encoding='UTF-8'?#orderdetails#
/cfhttp

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Re: CFDJ?

2006-09-13 Thread Yves Arsenault
As far as I know I'm still on the list as well

Haven't gotten a message in about forever.

Yves

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Greg Luce
Is it a good practice though? I know alot of people do it, but it just seems
wrong to me to be evaluating a number as boolean.

Greg

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Crow T. Robot
Isn't it any non-zero integer?  Not just positive ones?

On 9/13/06, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is NOT the same as saying, as long as there is *one* record returned,
 true.

 Right?

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Charlie Griefer
i've been told (by someone much smarter than me) -not- to use implicit
boolean conversion.

yes, in CF cfif recordcount/cfif will work (where 0 evaluates to
false and any other number evaluates to true)...but what you really
mean is:

cfif recordcount GT 0/cfif

you're looking to see if the recordcount is greater than a specific number.

now, to be perfectly blunt, i can't tell you if it's for performance
reasons or just good practice...but the person who told me this was
Sean Corfield, and he's just got a -tad- more experience than I do
when it comes to programming...so I tend to trust what he says (except
i'm not falling for that pull my finger thing again).

bottom line is, according to what I consider to be a reputable
source...avoid implicit boolean conversion.

(now, this is normally the part of a thread where stuff starts
flying...so suit up everybody) :)



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 Is it a good practice though? I know alot of people do it, but it just seems
 wrong to me to be evaluating a number as boolean.

 Greg

 On 9/13/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It is NOT the same as saying, as long as there is *one* record
  returned, true.
 
  Right, and it is also the same as saying as long as there is *at least
  one* record returned, true.
 
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RE: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Is it a good practice though? I know alot of people do it, but it just
seems
wrong to me to be evaluating a number as boolean.

Personally, I like to write code that's as specific as possible. Only if a
variable is to hold a true Boolean value, do I use the cfif
isConditionTrue syntax.

So, I write the statement as:

cfif query.recordCount gt 0

While the two syntaxes currently result in the same thing, I find the above
to be more accurate and more descriptive. 

Also, on the very, very off chance that the behavior of how CF evaluates
numbers would ever change; I don't have to update code.

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Claude Schneegans
 it just seems wrong to me to be evaluating a number as boolean.

In some languages as C for instance, booleans are just numbers,
so there is nothing wrong there.

However, in CF which is a typeless language, I found some instances,
especially with query results, where it is better to be more specific.

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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Claude Schneegans
 any positive integer evaluates as true in a Boolean expression.

To be more exact: any *non zero* integer evaluates as true in a Boolean 
expression.
although recordcount here cannot be negative.

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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Dan Wilson
To sound off here,


All of the points above are very valid.  I've used Mach-II pretty heavily now 
for a while and MG:U to varying degrees and I really see where the frameworks 
add value. All three Front Controller frameworks ( Model Glue, MachII and 
Fusebox) are quite solid and are worth learning. 

I am decidedly framework agnostic. I choose to use a framework now even if I am 
the only developer on a small app. While frameworks sort of 'force' certain 
solutions to problems, this is actually a feature, not a bug and is quite nice 
when making enhancements or bug-fixes to your application later on. As 
mentioned above, some of the frameworks offer different features, but all of 
them will help organize your code in an easy to understand manner.


To Peters point, some of the problems solved by the frameworks ( M2, MG, CS, 
Reactor,  Transfer, Etc) are indeed not completely obvious before you have 
taken the plunge into OO ColdFusion. Dependency resolution ( by ColdSpring) 
doesn't seem to be a major pain until your app has some complexity around it. 
When you do run into dependency problems, ColdSpring is a godsend.

Same with the ORMs ( a la Reactor / Transfer ) . Pulling and Persisting 
information in a database is a vital application task. It is a problem that has 
been solved in various degrees by the ORM tools and helps get on with the meat 
of the application, the rules and other important logic. Give Transfer and 
Reactor a shot. Each has a nice blog sample application to toy with. You can 
immediately see the benefits of using an ORM in your application.



Being a coder who had your very same questions at one point, let me offer a few 
suggestions (gained from my blood sweat and tears ):

1) Get familiar with http://www.fullasagoog.com/index.cfm?blogcat=ColdFusionMX 
There is a wealth of very important information catalogued there.

2) Get familiar with www.google.com. If you run into a sticky problem whilst 
learning, you can be assured someone else ran into it also and there is 
probably a blog post or two about it somewhere.

3) Download sample apps and customize the mess out of them. You will break and 
fix plenty of things and this really accelerates the learning process.  I 
definately learn more from looking at others' code than I do my own.

4) Yes, it does seem like you are writing a ton more code. This will prove its 
value 
soon enough. I've added and removed whole new features / functions to 
applications with a single line of XML. OO CF, especially with a framework, 
seems like an indirect solution to the problem at hand compared with 
straight-line .cfm page coding.

5) There is no *right* answer usually. There are, however, some guiding 
principles and a whole lot of tradeoffs. If you aren't sure which way to go, 
try it one way and then 
another.

6) All the major frameworks have very active mailing lists. There is a wealth 
of information in the archives and batallions of helpful coders out there ready 
to lend a hand.

7) Yes, you will want to bang your head at times. And Yes, it gets easier.


Dan Wilson 






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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Dan Wilson
To sound off here,


All of the points above are very valid.  I've used Mach-II pretty heavily now 
for a while and MG:U to varying degrees and I really see where the frameworks 
add value. All three Front Controller frameworks ( Model Glue, MachII and 
Fusebox) are quite solid and are worth learning. 

I am decidedly framework agnostic. I choose to use a framework now even if I am 
the only developer on a small app. While frameworks sort of 'force' certain 
solutions to problems, this is actually a feature, not a bug and is quite nice 
when making enhancements or bug-fixes to your application later on. As 
mentioned above, some of the frameworks offer different features, but all of 
them will help organize your code in an easy to understand manner.


To Peters point, some of the problems solved by the frameworks ( M2, MG, CS, 
Reactor,  Transfer, Etc) are indeed not completely obvious before you have 
taken the plunge into OO ColdFusion. Dependency resolution ( by ColdSpring) 
doesn't seem to be a major pain until your app has some complexity around it. 
When you do run into dependency problems, ColdSpring is a godsend.

Same with the ORMs ( a la Reactor / Transfer ) . Pulling and Persisting 
information in a database is a vital application task. It is a problem that has 
been solved in various degrees by the ORM tools and helps get on with the meat 
of the application, the rules and other important logic. Give Transfer and 
Reactor a shot. Each has a nice blog sample application to toy with. You can 
immediately see the benefits of using an ORM in your application.



Being a coder who had your very same questions at one point, let me offer a few 
suggestions (gained from my blood sweat and tears ):

1) Get familiar with http://www.fullasagoog.com/index.cfm?blogcat=ColdFusionMX 
There is a wealth of very important information catalogued there.

2) Get familiar with www.google.com. If you run into a sticky problem whilst 
learning, you can be assured someone else ran into it also and there is 
probably a blog post or two about it somewhere.

3) Download sample apps and customize the mess out of them. You will break and 
fix plenty of things and this really accelerates the learning process.  I 
definately learn more from looking at others' code than I do my own.

4) Yes, it does seem like you are writing a ton more code. This will prove its 
value 
soon enough. I've added and removed whole new features / functions to 
applications with a single line of XML. OO CF, especially with a framework, 
seems like an indirect solution to the problem at hand compared with 
straight-line .cfm page coding.

5) There is no *right* answer usually. There are, however, some guiding 
principles and a whole lot of tradeoffs. If you aren't sure which way to go, 
try it one way and then 
another.

6) All the major frameworks have very active mailing lists. There is a wealth 
of information in the archives and batallions of helpful coders out there ready 
to lend a hand.

7) Yes, you will want to bang your head at times. And Yes, it gets easier.


Dan Wilson 






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RE: Linux webserver

2006-09-13 Thread Russ
We're still mostly windows at work except for the mail server.  At home I
run Redhat Fedora Core 4 (or 5 I forget) with X-Windows and Vmware server
(Free) with Exchange running in the VM.  It's more or less stable, but I've
had a few issues which required me to do ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X and
get back into the command line.  Although those might've been related to
running VMware which was beta at the time. 

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:52 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Linux webserver
 
 I tunnel my VNC/X-Windows thru SSH only one port thru the firewall and it
 is
 already a needed port! X is installed but system boots to runlevel 3 as I
 find command line much faster.  As for hardening your box the object is to
 not let them get in in the first place X-windows is the least of your
 worries once they have access. We run RedHat ES4 for our webservers but CF
 is still running on win2k3 I hope to change that soon!!
 
 As for X being unstable I run RedHat WS4 on my workstation install was
 super
 easy. Of course I also run VMware Workstation 5 (running XP) so I can
 access
 corp email. AD Admin wont join my Linux box to the domain.
 
 ~Eric
 
 
 

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Re: Image resizing

2006-09-13 Thread Jake Churchill
Rick's image.cfc is awesome

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
 I had trouble resizing large images to smaller ones.  They would come
 out about 20 shades darker with the tmt_img tag.  Of course, I didn't
 have a better java solution, so I opted for installing ImageMagick on
 the server.


 On 9/13/06, Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 imageCFC (I forget who did it, maybe rick?)
 Imagemagick from alagad.com

 Russ
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 September 2006 22:44
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Image resizing

 I know I've seen this topic posted before but I need some input.  I need an
 image resizing program, preferably written in Java that has the ability to
 resize images but retain the quality.  What I currently use is a cfx tag
 programmed in C++.  It does a good job but the smaller images always come
 out pixelated which I cannot have.  Any suggestions?
   
 There's also Massimo Foti's tmt_img.cfc. It does a fairly good job of image 
 resizing.
 You can look at the api and download it at 
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Re: Framework

2006-09-13 Thread Sean Corfield
I know you can use MG without Reactor, but that
doesn't seem to be the focus of it

I think it's a bit short-sighted to drop MG just because it has added some 
optional components you don't like...

If you don't have Reactor installed, MG starts up without it and scaffolding 
and GDMs (Generic Data Messages) are simply disabled. No big issue. You get 
Model-Glue 1.1 compatibility with the added option of using ColdSpring for 
configuration. The only difference is that ColdSpring is required to run MG:U - 
but you, yourself, don't have to use it.

One is the active record pattern, which Reactor uses. I think the active
record pattern reduces the flexibility of your application

I agree to some extent. However, I have built some apps where I have a data 
tier that hides the Active Record pattern and that works well, decoupling the 
business model from the persistence tier (which is a good practice anyway).

 I always use
the example that if you decide that Reactor is too much of a drag on your
site's performance, you will have a hell of a time ripping it out or trying
to recreate aspects of it.

Not if you've designed your application properly. I just switched most of my 
persistence layer from Reactor to Transfer with very few code changes. My 
business tier dealt with beans (which Active Records are) and my data tier 
dealt with persistence so the changes were fairly localized.

I even have a prototype TransferAdapter for MG:U so I actually have basic 
scaffolding and all the GDM machinery working with Transfer (with the exception 
of the gatewayMethod extension to MG:U that was added recently).

I also am not fond of scaffolds, as I think in
most cases they aren't very useful - however they are totally optional I
suppose so I am not going to make a big fuss about them.

I've found them useful for quick'n'dirty prototypes and then I typically fold 
the Scaffolds.xml file into the main ModelGlue.xml file and copy the generated 
views into my main view directory and work from there. It saves me writing some 
otherwise tedious event handling logic and basic display / list / edit form 
stuff.

Lastly, I just
don't think Reactor is there yet.

Since it's only at a beta candidate, I think that's only to be expected. 
Transfer is a 0.5 version release. MG:U itself is only a beta product. 
ColdSpring is the only 1.0 portion of it. If using pre-release software is an 
issue, then definitely MG 1.1 and ColdSpring 1.0 is a great, solid combination. 
However, since Reactor is totally optional for MG:U, I don't think this should 
be a reason to abandon Model-Glue.

It is a great concept that Doug has put a
lot of work into, but it seems to me that enormous scope and complexity has
caused it to be error plagued. I am on the list and I often feel inundated
with Reactor issues.

ORMs *are* complex. Look at Hibernate. I think the volume of traffic on the 
Reactor list is a testament to just how many people are using it for real 
projects. And, for the most part, they are actually *succeeding* with Reactor.

Personally, I have chosen to move to Mach ii. I believe it is a solid
framework and isn't all that different from straight MG (i.e. like the
1.1days) - mostly some verb changes.

I think there are some really problematic constructs in Mach II that make it 
harder for people to learn than MG 1.1 but I will also agree that it is a very 
solid framework. I introduced it to macromedia.com and it now powers about a 
quarter of the applications on the site (now adobe.com).

I switched to MG 1.x to take advantage of ChiliBeans initially because 
ColdSpring did not seem approachable. Then I went to MG 1.x + ColdSpring. 
Whilst I could have then moved to Mach II + ColdSpring via the plugin, I found 
that I didn't like the complexities of the Mach II architecture (listeners 
*and* filters *and* plugins) compared to the simplicity and consistency of the 
Model-Glue architecture. I also no longer like the way that Mach II allows you 
to intermix calls to the model with view rendering and invocations of filters 
etc... I think it leads to messy event handlers. I also no longer like the way 
that listener methods are tied directly into the event handlers - Model-Glue's 
implicit invocation is much cleaner with multiple listeners registered for a 
given message broadcast.

Anyway, as this post is full of MG:U fans, I am not ripping on MG:U or
trying to start some framework flame war. I just think that you need to get
past the hype a bit when choosing a framework. This may mean that you still
choose MG:U, but it is worth considering the alternatives (Mach ii, Fusebox
and ColdBox).

Again, agreed. I don't know much about ColdBox (reading the initial blurb about 
it just confused me so I put it down - if I find time, I'll definitely go back 
and look at it again).

Fusebox is a good framework for established CFers who aren't yet familiar with 
frameworks but may be a bit alien for someone coming to CF from VB.NET (which I 
seem to 

Re: Odd installation issue

2006-09-13 Thread Teddy Payne
The only thing I acn suggest is checking the neo configuration files to see
if there is a way to superceed the steps.

Teddy

On 9/13/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That has been my experience every other time too. This is the first time
 I've ever had any issue with installation and that's a LOT of
 installations! I'll try disabling everything else that's running on the
 box that I can disable and see if I can get it to go past that step. The
 strangest thing is that it serves CF pages just fine; it's just the
 admin that I can't get into. Surely there should be a method for making
 an end-run around that bit and configuring anything that it missed by
 hand?

 I was hoping I'd get someone post who had this exact same problem last
 week and fixed it by doing x. No such luck though, huh?

 Thanks,

 Ken Ferguson
 214.636.6126




 -Original Message-
 From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Odd installation issue

 I have had NAV stop at the point speak of it.  NAV has a habit of
 thinking
 java changes are virus related.

 Other than NAV, I have not seen a stopping point at the configuration
 before.  Typically if you get the configuration after deployment, your
 installation was successful enough to execute CFML correctly.

 Sorry,

 Teddy

 On 9/13/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Nope, no NAV running. Though I would expect it to cause problems
 before
  this point, but not AT this point. Once you get to the point where
  you're in the web browser hitting the administrator, I'd expect no
  problems out of an av scanner.
 
  Thanks,
  Ferg
 
 
 
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  From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:17 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Odd installation issue
 
  Do you have Norton Anti-Virus installed on this server?  If you do,
 turn
  that beast off until install is complete.
 
  Teddy
 
  On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I've got a Windows 03 server on which I installed MX7 yesterday.
 After
   getting it all installed, I browse to the administrator and get the
   configuration wizard screen. I type in the admin password and
 submit.
   Then it goes to the next page for about one second before it pops
 back
   to the login screen. I know the password I'm typing is correct,
  because
   when I type a bad one in it tells me that it's not the right
 password.
   There's a continue link on that next page and I've tried clicking
 it
   really quickly before the page changes, but that doesn't help
 either.
  I
   put a test.cfm file in the web root with just a cfdump
  var=#server#
   inside of it. When I browse to that file, it works as expected, so
  it's
   serving CF pages just fine. I just can't get into the administrator
   because I can't get past the config thing. Has anybody seen that
  before
   or does anyone have any ideas?
  
   Thanks,
  
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Re: Boolean use of Recordcount

2006-09-13 Thread Teddy Payne
Also, be cognitive that ColdFusion converts the words yes and no into
boolean equivalent 1 and 0.

For code legibility and maintainability, I would agree with Sean C. on this
point of not using implicit boolean conversion.

cfif query.recordcount logically will mean true for any returned records
or false for 0 records returned.  This is kind of inferred logic makes sense
to a ColdFusion developer.  ColdFusion converts the variables to a number
and then applies boolean logic against the 0 or non 0 number.

Now a more dfinitive result would be to to have  cfif query.recordcount gt
0 and this is just comparing 0 or non 0 against a great than statement.
You are not coverting anything here other than comapring two numbers that
are of the same data type.

I would probably even go as far that non-implicit logic would make
ColdFusion's short-circuit boolean expressions quicker.

Teddy



On 9/13/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 any positive integer evaluates as true in a Boolean expression.

 To be more exact: any *non zero* integer evaluates as true in a Boolean
 expression.
 although recordcount here cannot be negative.

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Re: CFC question

2006-09-13 Thread Teddy Payne
Another reason to use the variables scope outside of a method like init()
would be when you extend a CFC from another CFC.

The variables defined in the variables scope will act like a psuedo
constructor if you are not calling that CFC via a cfinvoke, cfobject ...etc.

It provides a little flexibility on how the CFC can be consumed.

Teddy

On 9/13/06, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The variables scope, when used within a CFC, is a protected private
 scope (only accessible from within the CFC). Within the head of your
 object (after the cfcomponent tag, but prior to any functions) you may
 have a block like this:

 cfscript
 variables.instance = structnew();
 variables.instance.firstname = ;
 variables.instance.lastname = ;
 variables.instance.age = 0;
 /cfscript

 Then you might have an init method like this:

 cffunction name=init access=public output=false
 returntype=person hint=This initializes your person object
 cfreturn this
 /cffunction

 You would then get or set the properties of your object using getter and
 setter methods, which can access the private variables scope:

 cffunction name=setFirstName access=public output=false
 returntype=void hint=Sets the firstname property of this instance
 cfargument name=firstname type=string required=true
 hint=firstname to set in this instance of person
 cfset variables.instance.firstname = arguments.firstname
 /cffunction

 cffunction name=getFirstName access=public output=false
 returntype=string hint=Returns the firstname of this person instance
 cfreturn variables.instance.firstname
 /cffunction

 So, within your calling template you might have:

 cfset variables.personObj = createobject(component,person).init()

 After which, the following attempt to access it's properties would
 fail/error:

 #variables.personObj.firstname#

 But using this would give you access:

 #variables.personObj.getFirstName()#

 Hope this helps:)

 Cutter
 _
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

 Victor Moore wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have seen in a number of examples the following:
 
  cfset variables.myVar = arguments.someArg /
  any particular reason/advantage why the arguments are assigned to a
 local
  variable inside a cfc function instead of using it directly?
 
  Thanks
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