Re: unsubscribe
On 6/20/07, Dave Watts wrote: How do I unsubscribe from cf-talk http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=292 Aaron, that's your unsubscribe link, not the original poster's. ROTFLMAO And I had thought the legacy ASP comment was good... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281753 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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why would you want to? I don't understand the question On 6/20/07, Madenyika, Denford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I unsubscribe from cf-talk ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281695 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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How do I unsubscribe from cf-talk ... Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=... Scroll down to the bottom of your message, and click the Subscription link. Also, for future reference, it is considered poor etiquette to send requests for administrative help to a list. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281704 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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You don't like us? ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Madenyika, Denford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: unsubscribe How do I unsubscribe from cf-talk ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281711 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=29232.20707.4 On 6/20/07, Madenyika, Denford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I unsubscribe from cf-talk ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On 6/20/07, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't like us? He switched back to legacy ASP ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On 6/20/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, for future reference, it is considered poor etiquette to send requests for administrative help to a list. I consider it something else ;) ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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How do I unsubscribe from cf-talk http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=292 32.20707.4 Aaron, that's your unsubscribe link, not the original poster's. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281737 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Oh ... well someone unsubscribe him ... PLEASE! heh ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: unsubscribe On 6/20/07, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't like us? He switched back to legacy ASP ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281742 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, not of heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up here in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of dealing with the situations they're in which drove here in the first place. Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have here to get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't stick around long enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to play nice... Thanks for indulging my concerns... Rick Rick Faircloth, White Stone Media -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
Rick, I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at him. I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) Scott On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, not of heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up here in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of dealing with the situations they're in which drove here in the first place. Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have here to get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't stick around long enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to play nice... Thanks for indulging my concerns... Rick Rick Faircloth, White Stone Media -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198424 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
Everyone should also be aware that with Google, etc., forum and list posts now live on much longer than the week or so they are in your inbox. So, watch what you say as it may haunt you for a very long time. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
Thanks, Rick... Good words... good thoughts. I'm always for the idea of getting more sleep, but I'm not sure anybody wants to see what I'm like on less caffeine. It gets ugly. I do appreciate the honesty around here, and there's little of the backbiting that happens in so many communities after they've matured enough to have an inner circle or regs as other communities call them. I think, honestly, that some of the sharper comments I've made lately may have been mitigated by getting more sleep... and if I've contributed to the discomfort of others by making those statements... well... I'd feel bad. It's often very hard to discern the fine line between calling a spade a spade and being unduly harsh... perhaps I crossed a line along the way. If so, my apologies to all offended. Thanks again, Rick, for the reminder that there's always *people* behind these black-on-white lines of text. Laterz, J On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! snippages -- Continuum Media Group LLC Burnsville, MN 55337 http://www.web-relevant.com http://cfobjective.neo.servequake.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198426 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
Very, very true. I found this list when I realized that many of the issues I've had with CF were properly dealt with here through google. If you want to see what a potential client or employer could find on you, just type your email that you use for the list into google... I'll be very shocked if your posts aren't pulled. Kevin [kes geek] Coldfusion Remote Dashboard http://www.keslabs.com/crd -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Everyone should also be aware that with Google, etc., forum and list posts now live on much longer than the week or so they are in your inbox. So, watch what you say as it may haunt you for a very long time. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198429 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
Scott, I enjoy the humor, *some* of the drama, and good-natured ribbing, but some of it, profanity, abusive trashing other's works and sites, criticism of someone who lets the community know of *free* tools they've created and are inviting people to use and getting verbally abused for it...a lot of that stuff needs to go... It's not good for the list. Glad you're sticking around :o) I'd be interested in knowing how many people sign up for the list and how many people unsubscribe by the month...any chance Michael might share numbers or just maybe some insight into how what goes on here affects subscriptions? Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Rick, I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at him. I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) Scott On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, not of heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up here in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of dealing with the situations they're in which drove here in the first place. Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have here to get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't stick around long enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to play nice... Thanks for indulging my concerns... Rick Rick Faircloth, White Stone Media -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198432 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) Ray At 01:09 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: Scott, I enjoy the humor, *some* of the drama, and good-natured ribbing, but some of it, profanity, abusive trashing other's works and sites, criticism of someone who lets the community know of *free* tools they've created and are inviting people to use and getting verbally abused for it...a lot of that stuff needs to go... It's not good for the list. Glad you're sticking around :o) I'd be interested in knowing how many people sign up for the list and how many people unsubscribe by the month...any chance Michael might share numbers or just maybe some insight into how what goes on here affects subscriptions? Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Rick, I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at him. I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) Scott On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, not of heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up here in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of dealing with the situations they're in which drove here in the first place. Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have here to get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't stick around long enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to play nice... Thanks for indulging my concerns... Rick Rick Faircloth, White Stone Media -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198437 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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After a quite a few years of using software in various aspects of my business... operating systems, video production software, database software, and Cold Fusion, etc.,...I've learned that before I spend a penny on software I should find a place where the people that use that software gather to discuss it's use. I don't have to even participate to get an idea of the quality of the software and the community of users that I'll probably depend on to use it. Based on the kind of comments, and potential assistance from lists like this one, I'll make a decision whether or not to invest in that software. With more and more companies becoming practically unapproachable for support without spending lots of dollars, it's important to know there are communities surrounding products that can help with issues that come up without entering a firestorm. plug I will put in a plug for one company, however...Linksys (Cisco)...I've used their inexpensive routers for several years now with good performance, but when I have a problem, I can call a free 800 number, and talk to technicians as long as I need to and never have to pay a dime. I'm not sure how they afford to offer that level of support for free, but I'll always be a customer because of it... /plug But, back to CF-Talk...this place has been like a gold mine for me... and I want it to keep that polished sheen... Rick -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) Ray At 01:09 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: Scott, I enjoy the humor, *some* of the drama, and good-natured ribbing, but some of it, profanity, abusive trashing other's works and sites, criticism of someone who lets the community know of *free* tools they've created and are inviting people to use and getting verbally abused for it...a lot of that stuff needs to go... It's not good for the list. Glad you're sticking around :o) I'd be interested in knowing how many people sign up for the list and how many people unsubscribe by the month...any chance Michael might share numbers or just maybe some insight into how what goes on here affects subscriptions? Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Rick, I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at him. I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) Scott On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know
Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
2669 on CF-Talk 565 on CF-Community We also have a LOT of people on the RSS feeds and using the archives (which have been upgraded again). I don't keep records of when someone leaves a list or joins up. Maybe I should, but it's really useless data to me. What's more important is getting the name of House of Fusion out there as a community resource and providing for the ColdFusion community. I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198447 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Cool, thanks for the info. I am surprised at the community numbers. I thought it would be less than that. Seems like we have about 50 ppl who post on a normal basis. Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) Ray At 01:29 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: 2669 on CF-Talk 565 on CF-Community We also have a LOT of people on the RSS feeds and using the archives (which have been upgraded again). I don't keep records of when someone leaves a list or joins up. Maybe I should, but it's really useless data to me. What's more important is getting the name of House of Fusion out there as a community resource and providing for the ColdFusion community. I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198448 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:36:48 -0500, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, thanks for the info. I am surprised at the community numbers. I thought it would be less than that. Seems like we have about 50 ppl who post on a normal basis. Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) And face the wrath of 'The List'...I shudder at the thought ;-) -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198450 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) They probably will, when they're sure they won't be squashed like a roach if they make an appearance and dare utter any words which might draw the ire of some on this list... Rick -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Cool, thanks for the info. I am surprised at the community numbers. I thought it would be less than that. Seems like we have about 50 ppl who post on a normal basis. Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) Ray At 01:29 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: 2669 on CF-Talk 565 on CF-Community We also have a LOT of people on the RSS feeds and using the archives (which have been upgraded again). I don't keep records of when someone leaves a list or joins up. Maybe I should, but it's really useless data to me. What's more important is getting the name of House of Fusion out there as a community resource and providing for the ColdFusion community. I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198451 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] They probably will, when they're sure they won't be squashed like a roach if they make an appearance and dare utter any words which might draw the ire of some on this list... I think everyone is overreacting a little here... the list gets worked up now and then but everything calms down in a couple hours or a couple days... no big deal. One other point.. A lot of potential employers have people on this list so the more BS you partake in might come back to bite you in the ass if you find yourself looking for CF work and run into someone you didn't know on here... but knows you! :-) Mike ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198453 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Well, we are both Lurkers as well as cowards. Many of you have so much experience with this language that I generally don't answer posts because someone else out their beats me to the punch with a much better answer. So fear of posting an incorrect answer may run high. It does with me :-)) Andy -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne Cool, thanks for the info. I am surprised at the community numbers. I thought it would be less than that. Seems like we have about 50 ppl who post on a normal basis. Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) Ray At 01:29 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: 2669 on CF-Talk 565 on CF-Community We also have a LOT of people on the RSS feeds and using the archives (which have been upgraded again). I don't keep records of when someone leaves a list or joins up. Maybe I should, but it's really useless data to me. What's more important is getting the name of House of Fusion out there as a community resource and providing for the ColdFusion community. I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198456 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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i try to be good lol From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) They probably will, when they're sure they won't be squashed like a roach if they make an appearance and dare utter any words which might draw the ire of some on this list... Rick -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Cool, thanks for the info. I am surprised at the community numbers. I thought it would be less than that. Seems like we have about 50 ppl who post on a normal basis. Lurkers, come out of the woodwork! :) Ray At 01:29 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: 2669 on CF-Talk 565 on CF-Community We also have a LOT of people on the RSS feeds and using the archives (which have been upgraded again). I don't keep records of when someone leaves a list or joins up. Maybe I should, but it's really useless data to me. What's more important is getting the name of House of Fusion out there as a community resource and providing for the ColdFusion community. I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198463 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I think the problem is that you tried out a few diff newletter systems so ppl might have been caught between or trying to unsubscribe to one that isn't there anymore. From: Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Rick, I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at him. I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) Scott On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, not of heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up here in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of dealing with the situations they're in which drove here in the first place. Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have here to get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't stick around long enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to play nice... Thanks for indulging my concerns... Rick Rick Faircloth, White Stone Media -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198464 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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It does get heated but thats also where a lot of the good info comes out that otherwise wouldnt. As far as employers and such, well I can see both sides of the argument but I would want someone on my team that is a free thinker and not afraid to speak his/her mind, it doesn't mean I have to always agree with them. After all most businesses that do well are ones with at least a lil bit of friction in them, it also pulls out more ideas, solutions. If you think the friction here is bad, try working in an ER with ppl who haven't slept in 3 days, this is nothing. From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] They probably will, when they're sure they won't be squashed like a roach if they make an appearance and dare utter any words which might draw the ire of some on this list... I think everyone is overreacting a little here... the list gets worked up now and then but everything calms down in a couple hours or a couple days... no big deal. One other point.. A lot of potential employers have people on this list so the more BS you partake in might come back to bite you in the ass if you find yourself looking for CF work and run into someone you didn't know on here... but knows you! :-) Mike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198478 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz
i think that if someone doesnt hire me, becuase im being me, then i wouldnt want that job in the first place if i cant be me, then who am i? tw On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:42:16 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the problem is that you tried out a few diff newletter systems so ppl might have been caught between or trying to unsubscribe to one that isn't there anymore. From: Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz Rick, I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at him. I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) Scott On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: From Scott Stroz: UNSUBSCRIBE Scott, I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this bad...usually, it's quite civil. Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking to the group like this, but this little family has begun to act like too many real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, sometimes profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it gets like this...the same is true for online families and I think, if my instinct is correct, that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their websites and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is usually welcome by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free products, has been quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more sleep and less caffeine! In groups like this one, it's easy for the inner circle to become very familiar with each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too relaxed with what we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in Cold Fusion and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they need, and perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the long run and especially the person in need in the short run. Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this is just a call of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette on this list. There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never know are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, not of heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up here in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of dealing with the situations they're in which drove here in the first place. Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have here to get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't stick around long enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to play nice... Thanks for indulging my concerns... Rick Rick Faircloth, White Stone Media -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198482 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Oops, as pointed out by someone (Ben Doom), the User is you, so please use the link on the bottom of your email g -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: unsubscribe unsubscribe Bottom of every email: Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=5305.4832.4 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: UNSUBSCRIBE
Nuts. The auto unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email isn't working. How do I unsubscribe? Thanks, Ryan -Original Message- From: Ryan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: UNSUBSCRIBE
Link seems to work fine for me... Maybe the internet is broken... -Original Message- From: Ryan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE Nuts. The auto unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email isn't working. How do I unsubscribe? Thanks, Ryan -Original Message- From: Ryan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been annoying some
people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox, DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:02AM
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list
cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to
add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox,
DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the
checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check
boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or
unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble
with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
Don't unsubscribe because of that, cf-talk is the best one for answers to
your questions.
Ade
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list
cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox, DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette
LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list
cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox, DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
Well...I tried to read up on the etiquette but I couldn't find it anywhere.
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:59 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote:
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette
LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list
cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox, DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
do a seargh on google for List Serve Etiquette
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Unsubscribe
Well...I tried to read up on the etiquette but I couldn't find it anywhere.
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:59 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote:
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette
LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list
cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox, DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
Basically, ask your question on one list.. Wait for a reply.. Then if
you do not get a reply, post it to another with the prefix that you
posted it to one list already with no response..
HTH
Clint
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Unsubscribe
Well...I tried to read up on the etiquette but I couldn't find it
anywhere.
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:59 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote:
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette
LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people I've decided to take their advice and only post
to one mailing list cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to
add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox,
DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the
checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly set the
checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check
boxes and were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0,
on/off), is the only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or
unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble
with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
Fair enough.
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:30:33 -0600, Clint Tredway wrote:
Basically, ask your question on one list.. Wait for a reply.. Then if
you do not get a reply, post it to another with the prefix that you
posted it to one list already with no response..
HTH
Clint
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Unsubscribe
Well...I tried to read up on the etiquette but I couldn't find it
anywhere.
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:59 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote:
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette
LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people I've decided to take their advice and only post
to one mailing list cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to
add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox value=1#iif(Query.thisBox,
DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s make the
checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly set the
checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were check
boxes and were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0,
on/off), is the only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked or
unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm having trouble
with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
Here's some:
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http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Unsubscribe
Well...I tried to read up on the etiquette but I couldn't
find it anywhere.
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:59 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote:
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette
LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS
-Original Message-
From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com]
Sent: 01 November 2002 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been
annoying some people
I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list
cf-community.
How can I unsubscribe from this list?
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:53:45 -0500, Kreig Zimmerman wrote:
Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last
question, so to add:
The way to do this on the form page is this:
input type=checkbox name=thisBox
value=1#iif(Query.thisBox, DE('
checked'),DE(''))#
..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, 1
evaluates to true, and 0 to false. Thus only 1s
make the checkbox
be checked.
Randell B Adkins wrote:
In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
however you will need to test for the value to properly
set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
Example:
CheckBoxField: Value could be AGREE or DISAGREE
on the Form:
input type=checkbox name=abc value=Agree CFIF
qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'checked/cfif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM
When querying a db where some original input fields were
check boxes
and
were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0,
on/off), is the
only way
to display a check box on the query page, either checked
or unchecked,
to
create a form and add an insert field? If so, I'm
having trouble with
the
conditional logic. Is there an approach I'm overlooking.
Rick
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RE: Unsubscribe
its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS Well, oddly enough, I was going to suggest the same thing but I went to the link, and couldn't find any obvious way to unsubscribe from that page. I may have overlooked something, of course. And, for the original poster, I'd recommend that you post technical questions to this list rather than cf-community. Your questions have certainly been technical ones, as far as I can tell. However, if you still want to unsubscribe, you should be able to do this by sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that contains the word unsubscribe. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Unsubscribe
Nearly all of your posts has been requesting technical advice. The CFTALK list is for technical advice, people sometimes occasionally post a request for technical information on the CF-Community list, but that isn't something that usual. So you should stay connected to the CFTALK list, and NOT CF-Community.. You should read the bottom of every email that is posted for more information on guidelines on what should be posted where, as well as clear and concise information on how to subscribe and unsubscribe. -Gel -Original Message- From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx;rogers.com] Due to me posting the same question on multiple lists which has been annoying some people I've decided to take their advice and only post to one mailing list cf-community. Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: Unsubscribe
Dave is very right here. I had altered the front page to put up the conference video link and it killed the subscription pages. I've since altered the link on bottom to go directly to the archives where the subscriptions are handled from now. I'll make a general announcement about it very soon. Sorry for the problem. its nothing to do with annoying people...its list etiquette LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL CF_TALK EMAILS Well, oddly enough, I was going to suggest the same thing but I went to the link, and couldn't find any obvious way to unsubscribe from that page. I may have overlooked something, of course. And, for the original poster, I'd recommend that you post technical questions to this list rather than cf-community. Your questions have certainly been technical ones, as far as I can tell. However, if you still want to unsubscribe, you should be able to do this by sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that contains the word unsubscribe. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: UNSUBSCRIBE
try the unsubscribe link at the bottom of all CT_Talk email - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Alan Walter Intranet Application Development (MBAE51) * Office: 020 7929 2423 * Mobile: 07802 176639 *Fax: 020 7929 2515 * pp 211 Monument TE, 11-13 Gt Tower St, London EC3R 5EA * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Teampage Application http://teampage.nat.bt.com/ __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UNSUBSCRIBE
I will have a new link installed on the bottom of all messages to allow people to unsubscribe with a single press of a button. It's being tested now. try the unsubscribe link at the bottom of all CT_Talk email - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Alan Walter Intranet Application Development (MBAE51) * Office: 020 7929 2423 * Mobile: 07802 176639 *Fax: 020 7929 2515 * pp 211 Monument TE, 11-13 Gt Tower St, London EC3R 5EA * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Teampage Application http://teampage.nat.bt.com/ __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Unsubscribe
Unsubscribe FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=sts Look at the bottom of the message (I've copied it above) It's on every post Philip Arnold Technical Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited Switchboard: +44 (0)20 8680 8099 Fax: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 www.aspmedia.co.uk www.aspevents.net An ISO9001 registered company. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: unsubscribe adress
Sorry, but you're not allowed to leave Barry. Just kidding, to un-subscribe, go here: http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/lists/CF_Talk.cfm At 05:58 PM 6/15/2002 +0100, you wrote: hi can anyone tell me the adress to unsubscribe to this list. thanks barry __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: unsubscribe adress
Look at the bottom of the email... Howie - Original Message - From: Barry Gee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: unsubscribe adress hi can anyone tell me the adress to unsubscribe to this list. thanks barry __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: unsubscribe
this should be at the bottom of all the posts. atleast it is for me. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: unsubscribe
Try reading the bottom of each message for a starter . . . 8-) Dave - Original Message - From: SHEETS, DAYV (PB) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: unsubscribe Hello. What would I do to get unsubscribe from this list? Can anyone tell me? TIA ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Unsubscribe
Chris, For some reason, the functionality on the site tells you that you need to reply to the email to get it to work. However, the email that is sent to you doesn't give you any indication of this. I've had the same problem many times and it's very aggravating. Jason - Original Message - From: "McGuckin, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe me from the CF-Talk list. I have attempted to unsubscribe several times via the website, but to no avail. Christopher McGuckin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Unsubscribe
The address [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been removed from the HoF lists. - Original Message - From: "McGuckin, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe me from the CF-Talk list. I have attempted to unsubscribe several times via the website, but to no avail. Christopher McGuckin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Unsubscribe
The usual problem with people unsubscribing is that they are trying to remove an address other than the one subscribed. When this doesn't work, I get the emails directly. Then I just use the standard interface once they give me the right one. :) Chris, For some reason, the functionality on the site tells you that you need to reply to the email to get it to work. However, the email that is sent to you doesn't give you any indication of this. I've had the same problem many times and it's very aggravating. Jason - Original Message - From: "McGuckin, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe me from the CF-Talk list. I have attempted to unsubscribe several times via the website, but to no avail. Christopher McGuckin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Unsubscribe
Make sure that the email address you use to unsubscribe is the same as the one you subscribed with. When most folks have trouble, it's when they've changed email addresses since they subscribed last, and the system is forwarding their old address. We had that problem here a lot when we went to the new mail system. For example, my address went from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, the old address still gets my mail to me. Dave - Original Message - From: Jason Lotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Chris, For some reason, the functionality on the site tells you that you need to reply to the email to get it to work. However, the email that is sent to you doesn't give you any indication of this. I've had the same problem many times and it's very aggravating. Jason - Original Message - From: "McGuckin, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: Unsubscribe Please unsubscribe me from the CF-Talk list. I have attempted to unsubscribe several times via the website, but to no avail. Christopher McGuckin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Unsubscribe
Some lists that I subcribe to have in the footer: "You are currently subscribed to listname as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Perhaps something like that would help this gentleman (term used loosely) unsubscribe himself off of this list. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Simon Park Computer Systems Management, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 205 South Whiting Street Ph: 703-823-4300Suite 201 fax: 703-823-4301 Alexandria, VA 22304 http://www.csmi.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
I have logged over 37 emails trying to unsubscribe plus seven trips to the web based administrator. What is uncivilized is the total lack of response and uncivility from the list managers. At 11:53 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Its always nice to know that these types of techniques are used in lieu of more civilized communications methods such as email or a telephone call. Suffice it to say that threats against a community endeavor such as this list are really frowned upon. Keep in mind that you may actually work with or for someone on this list. It seems that in your frustration (which seems warranted), you've hastily posted something that I would assume you don't mean. Am I correct? Have you tried contacting Michael Dinowitz directly? Are you sure that you're putting in the right email address in the unsubscribe dialog box? Rey Bango.. Chief Technology Officer OnlineDemocracy.com Certified Allaire Instructor Member of Team Allaire "A browser's beauty, at its heart, is its usefulness as a *TOOL*." - Original Message - From: "Internet Marketing Corporation" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
You are the ones who have been spamming **ME** you fucking asshole! My name is R. C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now what arer you going to do? At 12:58 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Wouldn't it be cool if stupidity was painful? Yeah...except that insurance/medicare costs would go through the roof when we were forced to subsidize treatments for #despised_group#. Either that, or the Politically Correct cadre would legislate that ALL people must be stupid; thus equality is ensured, and no one suffers just because a few snobs had the audacity to educate themselves and throw off the delicate balance. It'd still be fun to watch spammers squirm in agony, though. }:) Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore "I'm sorry, I can't hear you. God just sat on my Whoopee Cushion." - Kibo -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Unsubscribe
This is the your best? You spam me over weeks and months and then act like I am the fucking villian? Don't you think that the "polite" thing to do would be to administer your fucking list in a responsible manner? You are all a very sorry piece of work. R. C. Horsch At 04:25 PM 6/29/00 -0400, you wrote: Is this the 1st time this list has ever been unified on a topic. Don't you love it when someone brings out the best is us. don -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Last thing. You are one person. Don't you think that if you really launched an some automatic script to do whatever that there aren't several hundred people on this list capable of doing the same to you? Not a smart move. Hmmm, how many of us could send a blitz to an email address, and if needs be, vary the email address, subject, content etc.? Or, to not break the law g How about how many Black Lists he can get on by Spamming? Real smart move... and how long do you think it'd take before it makes his email address look like ILOVEYOU was a single email if he annoys enough of us? Philip Arnold ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Unsubscribe
I have logged over 37 emails trying to unsubscribe plus seven trips to the web based administrator. What is uncivilized is the total lack of response and uncivility from the list managers. This is an unmoderated list, and there's only one list manager, who to the best of my knowledge has a full-time job and runs this list as a service to the community of CF programmers. There's not a whole lot he can do, unless he learns the correct email address that was originally used to subscribe. If you can look at the raw mail header of a message that you've received, it should list the address to which the list sent the message. Perhaps some of the responses you've received have annoyed you; I can understand that. However, you have to understand their perspective. It's as if you got on an airliner, realized after takeoff that you were on the wrong one, and are now threatening to run up to the cabin and crash the plane. Also, with a company name like "Internet Marketing Corporation", you should expect that people might think you could be a spammer. It's not very productive on your part to threaten to "implement large volume programmed 'posting" until [your] postings are no longer accepted", either. My name is R. C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now what arer you going to do? I'm going to advise you to try and figure out why you're unable to unsubscribe. I know that the unsubscribe mechanism generally works, so it's likely that there may be a problem on your end. I suspect that you may have subscribed with an address other than [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps you used [EMAIL PROTECTED], since that's the one listed in this email. You may have used an address in ivq.com, since mail for that domain also goes to your mail server, and you're the owner of that domain. Or, perhaps, you registered with an email address in art21.com; that's also yours and also uses the same mail server. Or, it could be an email account at museumofsex.net - that's yours too. Oh, wait; there's no mail server record for that one. How about mosex.com. That one's still active. It does point to a different mail server, but that mail server could simply be forwarding to your regular mail account. Nice site, by the way - like the restrained use of Flash, and the site itself looks pretty interesting. Any site that can enlist Sandra Bernhard, Arianna Huffington and Annie Sprinkle must have something going on. I'm tired, so I'll just list some of the other possibilities: shellymars.com sexphanatic.com erotogram.com mosex.org mosex.net I'd focus on the ones using the mail server hosted by netaxs.com first - that's your best bet. Finally, you have at least three NIC handles. That's kind of overkill, don't you think? I hope you find this helpful. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
You are the ones who have been spamming **ME** you fucking asshole! My name is R. C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now what arer you going to do? 1. Laugh at you RC, a Porn Spammer getting a dose of his own medicine. 2. Advise you to learn how to use your email client. a. Turn on filters? b. Keep track of your many obvious email accounts so you know who the hell you subscribed your dumb ass as. 3. Laugh some more as I contemplate the fact that you have threatened 1,000's of people who could likely make your life on the net a living hell in about 5 minutes. 4. Not going to listen to anymore of your Horsch-it. SPAM Kills, Steve -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Unsubscribe
Oh Man, my teenage son has a better looking web site. Anyway, I frequently subscribe and unsubscribe depending how long I am going to be away from the office. I can tell you from experience, there is nothing wrong with the House of Fusions lister. Shakespeare said in Julius Caesar. "The fault dear Brutus is not in the stars, but in our self" Make sure the address you subscribe is the same one you are using to unsubscribe. Jim Ray -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Marketing Corporation wrote: To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Oh, are you saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is NOT your email address (along with any of the others in the header?) Well, therein lies your problem, not the "list manager". You've got other problems! And remember, you're the one who's been using vulgar language and making threats! This is one of the very best lists on the web. Well behaved and well managed (considering the number of hack attacks they suffer constantly). Chill out and let the guys that know HELP you figure it out. You're not being SPAMMED or FLAMED everyday - you're a victim of your own mistake here. Dave - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:38 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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I doubt porn -spammer-boy will understand any reference to classical literature. Take a look closely at your own issues. I have subscribed and unsubscribed successfully myself. I guess when I don't waste time relaying mail and spoofing my identity, I don't run into such problems. Or, if you are such a master Internet guru, I am quite sure you can figure out how to have any message from this list auto-trash in your email client. Grow up. Good day to the rest of the fellow CF'ers on the list!! Eric J Hoffman, MAIP Director of Internet Development Meagher Geer, PLLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/00 08:35AM Oh Man, my teenage son has a better looking web site. Anyway, I frequently subscribe and unsubscribe depending how long I am going to be away from the office. I can tell you from experience, there is nothing wrong with the House of Fusions lister. Shakespeare said in Julius Caesar. "The fault dear Brutus is not in the stars, but in our self" Make sure the address you subscribe is the same one you are using to unsubscribe. Jim Ray -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Marketing Corporation wrote: To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRstsbodyRsts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Mr. Horsch, I apologize that things have apparently gotten out of hand. There's nothing that most lists like better than to get hold of a spammer, although I'm not convinced that that's what you have been. I can appreciate your difficulty in unsubscribing. Many list members had difficulty during the early part of this month. I have two suggestions: 1) issue the unsubscribe command using all email clients that you use. The signup is tied to one email address, and if you don't issue commands from that address, you'll get multiple automated messages back from the list, but you won't get unsubscribed. 2) failing that, you could set up a mail filter to delete all incoming messages from the list and just forget about it. HTH, John Allred John Allred Information Technology Services mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Words differently arranged have a different meaning, and meanings differently arranged have different effects." -- Blaise Pascal Internet MarketingTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corporation cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Unsubscribe 06/30/2000 01:38 AM Please respond to cf-talk Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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I missed this thread because I deleted the whole thing, but let me just say Boo Session Variables! Yeah Client Variables! That is all I could think of that is as relevant as this thread probably was. - Original Message - From: "David Hannum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:04 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Oh, are you saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is NOT your email address (along with any of the others in the header?) Well, therein lies your problem, not the "list manager". You've got other problems! And remember, you're the one who's been using vulgar language and making threats! This is one of the very best lists on the web. Well behaved and well managed (considering the number of hack attacks they suffer constantly). Chill out and let the guys that know HELP you figure it out. You're not being SPAMMED or FLAMED everyday - you're a victim of your own mistake here. Dave - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:38 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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I suspect that you may have subscribed with an address other than [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps you used [EMAIL PROTECTED], since that's the one listed in this email. You may have used an address in ivq.com, since mail for that domain also goes to your mail server, and you're the owner of that domain. Or, perhaps, you registered with an email address in art21.com; that's also yours and also uses the same mail server. Or, it could be an email account at museumofsex.net - that's yours too. Oh, wait; there's no mail server record for that one. How about mosex.com. That one's still active. It does point to a different mail server, but that mail server could simply be forwarding to your regular mail account. Nice site, by the way - like the restrained use of Flash, and the site itself looks pretty interesting. Any site that can enlist Sandra Bernhard, Arianna Huffington and Annie Sprinkle must have something going on. I'm tired, so I'll just list some of the other possibilities: shellymars.com sexphanatic.com erotogram.com mosex.org mosex.net I'd focus on the ones using the mail server hosted by netaxs.com first - that's your best bet. Finally, you have at least three NIC handles. That's kind of overkill, don't you think? I hope you find this helpful. he shoots, and he SCORES!!! Thats was a difficult three pointer from the outside seeing nothing but net! Swish! Marcus -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Let me try this again. I've gone through the entire list of subscriber (1700+) by hand and looked for ANYONE with ANY address that even looks remotely like IVH.COM or IVQ.COM. There is nothing. What this means is that you are on this list using an alias (i.e. a different email address than what we see). If I don't know this address, I can't unsubscribe you. If you want off of the list, then you should try and remember how you got on. This is my last word on the subject and would like the topic dropped. Thank you. Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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That was truly beautiful...the grace with which that slam was executed...well, it...it brought tears to my eyes... CFUG-SFL Manager -Kev /CFUG-SFL Manager I suspect that you may have subscribed with an address other than [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps you used [EMAIL PROTECTED], since that's the one listed in this email. You may have used an address in ivq.com, since mail for that domain also goes to your mail server, and you're the owner of that domain. Or, perhaps, you registered with an email address in art21.com; that's also yours and also uses the same mail server. Or, it could be an email account at museumofsex.net - that's yours too. Oh, wait; there's no mail server record for that one. How about mosex.com. That one's still active. It does point to a different mail server, but that mail server could simply be forwarding to your regular mail account. Nice site, by the way - like the restrained use of Flash, and the site itself looks pretty interesting. Any site that can enlist Sandra Bernhard, Arianna Huffington and Annie Sprinkle must have something going on. I'm tired, so I'll just list some of the other possibilities: shellymars.com sexphanatic.com erotogram.com mosex.org mosex.net I'd focus on the ones using the mail server hosted by netaxs.com first - that's your best bet. Finally, you have at least three NIC handles. That's kind of overkill, don't you think? I hope you find this helpful. he shoots, and he SCORES!!! Thats was a difficult three pointer from the outside seeing nothing but net! Swish! Marcus -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Actually I would like to see the website of that guys teenage son. Eric From: "David Hannum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:04:29 -0400 Oh, are you saying that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is NOT your email address (along with any of the others in the header?) Well, therein lies your problem, not the "list manager". You've got other problems! And remember, you're the one who's been using vulgar language and making threats! This is one of the very best lists on the web. Well behaved and well managed (considering the number of hack attacks they suffer constantly). Chill out and let the guys that know HELP you figure it out. You're not being SPAMMED or FLAMED everyday - you're a victim of your own mistake here. Dave - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:38 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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I know how you feel ... to paraphrase Leslie Neilson: "Nothing frosts my butt like getting lots of email you don't want and a snow cone three feet high" Like I said in an earlier post Veronica was the one signing her name to previous posts to the list ... have you talked to her to see what email address she used to subscribed to the list? The list manager certainly does NOT want to send you email if you don't want it. Please view the message header of any typical piece of email from the list. Copy and paste it into an email to me ... I will be glad to forward it on the list manager( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) for you. If you do not know how to view the message header, please tell us on the list which email client you are using (Eudora, Outlook Express v5, Outlook 2000) and we will be glad to help you with detailed instructions to show you how. This is a sincere request to help and I would expect a reply if your intentions are to actually unsubscribe. Thanks. Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] National Institutes of Health Center for Information Technology Division of Computer System Services -Original Message- From: Internet Marketing Corporation [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe This is the your best? You spam me over weeks and months and then act like I am the fucking villian? Don't you think that the "polite" thing to do would be to administer your fucking list in a responsible manner? You are all a very sorry piece of work. R. C. Horsch At 04:25 PM 6/29/00 -0400, you wrote: Is this the 1st time this list has ever been unified on a topic. Don't you love it when someone brings out the best is us. don -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Last thing. You are one person. Don't you think that if you really launched an some automatic script to do whatever that there aren't several hundred people on this list capable of doing the same to you? Not a smart move. Hmmm, how many of us could send a blitz to an email address, and if needs be, vary the email address, subject, content etc.? Or, to not break the law g How about how many Black Lists he can get on by Spamming? Real smart move... and how long do you think it'd take before it makes his email address look like ILOVEYOU was a single email if he annoys enough of us? Philip Arnold ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** --- - -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFE2B0.B2631C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://belps.freewebsites.com/index2.htm Great story about how to nail a spammer. As a warning to mr "I can't unsubscribe, wwwaahhh" --b Bryan D. Batchelder Work: 813-935-7100 Palm/Internet Developer Home: 727-547-1322 ConnectWise, Inc. (www.ConnectWise.com) 2803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204 Tampa, FL 33618 -Original Message- From: Troy Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 11:14 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Unsubscribe I promised not to get involved in this thread BUT... Marcus...you are my hero. Let this be a warning to others. -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe I suspect that you may have subscribed with an address other than [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps you used [EMAIL PROTECTED], since that's the one listed in this email. You may have used an address in ivq.com, since mail for that domain also goes to your mail server, and you're the owner of that domain. Or, perhaps, you registered with an email address in art21.com; that's also yours and also uses the same mail server. Or, it could be an email account at museumofsex.net - that's yours too. Oh, wait; there's no mail server record for that one. How about mosex.com. That one's still active. It does point to a different mail server, but that mail server could simply be forwarding to your regular mail account. Nice site, by the way - like the restrained use of Flash, and the site itself looks pretty interesting. Any site that can enlist Sandra Bernhard, Arianna Huffington and Annie Sprinkle must have something going on. I'm tired, so I'll just list some of the other possibilities: shellymars.com sexphanatic.com erotogram.com mosex.org mosex.net I'd focus on the ones using the mail server hosted by netaxs.com first - that's your best bet. Finally, you have at least three NIC handles. That's kind of overkill, don't you think? I hope you find this helpful. he shoots, and he SCORES!!! Thats was a difficult three pointer from the outside seeing nothing but net! Swish! Marcus -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body... -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFE2B0.B2631C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: Unsubscribe/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=2A HREF="http://belps.freewebsites.com/index2.htm" TARGET="_blank"http://belps.freewebsites.com/index2.htm/A/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2Great story about how to nail a spammer.nbsp; As a warning to mr quot;I can't unsubscribe, wwwaahhhquot;/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2--b/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Bryan D. Batcheldernbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Work: 813-935-7100/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Palm/Internet Developernbsp;nbsp; Home: 727-547-1322/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2ConnectWise, Inc. (www.ConnectWise.com)/FONT BRFONT SIZE=22803 West Busch Blvd, Suite 204/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Tampa, FL 33618/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2From: Troy Johnson [A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 11:14 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Subject: RE: Unsubscribe/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=2I promised not to get involved in this thread BUT.../FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2Marcus...you are my hero.nbsp; Let this be a warning to others./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2From: Marcus [A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:23 AM/FONT BRFONT S
Re: Unsubscribe
You're actually going to try to justify your threat to mail bomb this list by laying blame on the list managers? With all due respect, that kind of behavior is totally unacceptable. What would you do if the IRS upset you? Blow up their building? Geez I can only imagine what would happen if McDonald's undercooked your burger. Man, how old are you? Grow up! Rey... - Original Message - From: "Internet Marketing Corporation" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:40 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe I have logged over 37 emails trying to unsubscribe plus seven trips to the web based administrator. What is uncivilized is the total lack of response and uncivility from the list managers. At 11:53 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Its always nice to know that these types of techniques are used in lieu of more civilized communications methods such as email or a telephone call. Suffice it to say that threats against a community endeavor such as this list are really frowned upon. Keep in mind that you may actually work with or for someone on this list. It seems that in your frustration (which seems warranted), you've hastily posted something that I would assume you don't mean. Am I correct? Have you tried contacting Michael Dinowitz directly? Are you sure that you're putting in the right email address in the unsubscribe dialog box? Rey Bango.. Chief Technology Officer OnlineDemocracy.com Certified Allaire Instructor Member of Team Allaire "A browser's beauty, at its heart, is its usefulness as a *TOOL*." - Original Message - From: "Internet Marketing Corporation" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
On 6/29/00, Billy Cravens penned: Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. LOL -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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I ran across this little factoid in my email accounts on my own Post.Office mail server. Regardless of what I tell Eudora my return email address is, some list servers won't allow me to post to the list unless I subscribe the "Primary E-Mail Address" as defined in the Post.Office account setup. I don't know if this is causing your problem, but you might look and see what your "Primary E-Mail Address" is for the account with an alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] (if indeed this is an alias) I used to blame Eudora. It only took me a few years to kick over this rock... ;-) best, paul At 01:53 PM 6/30/00 -0400, you wrote: I am still seem to be subscribed and my question to you is if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscribed to the list, how I am I still able to post messages to the list from that address? -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Give it up Michael, we know its just you trying to keep us from leaving :-P - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Let me try this again. I've gone through the entire list of subscriber (1700+) by hand and looked for ANYONE with ANY address that even looks remotely like IVH.COM or IVQ.COM. There is nothing. What this means is that you are on this list using an alias (i.e. a different email address than what we see). If I don't know this address, I can't unsubscribe you. If you want off of the list, then you should try and remember how you got on. This is my last word on the subject and would like the topic dropped. Thank you. Dear5 David... I have exercised extreme dilligence in attempting to unsubscribe. I am totally fed up. If a list can't be responsibly managed, it should not be published at all. From my point of view, you have been flaming ME with several hundred messages per day, day in and day out, week in and week out. Think twice about your remark about "having my email address" --that's a really mature remark, too. At 11:42 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Oh that's real mature. Punish all of us on this list until you get removed. What a great human being! Just remember . . . we have YOUR email address too! - Original Message - From: Internet Marketing Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
The list manager has responded and he let you know that the address that you are trying to use to unsubscribe is not subscribed. Until you come up with a subscribed address you can't be unsubscribed. He said this yesterday after he came back into the country from teaching classes. As for your next message, this is not spam because you (or someone at an equivalent address) signed up for it. Spam is email that you didn't ask to receive and you asked to receive this. There have been some problems with the unsubscribe functions, but I have used them twice in the last month and they do work, assuming that you have used them correctly. But instead of trying to contact the list manager through the information on the website that contains the unsubscribe function, you sent a threatening letter to people who have no control over your subscription to the list. That is extremely unprofessional, and considering the nature of this list, extremely dangerous. There are people on this list who could easily take down your website or hijack you email. Yes, that is illegal, but you may have already noticed that not many people have been arrested for this recently in spite of several high-profile cases pending. That's because it's easy for people to cover their tracks if they know what they are doing. I suggest that the next time you have a problem like this you handle it more appropriately. At 02:40 AM 6/30/00 -0400, you wrote: I have logged over 37 emails trying to unsubscribe plus seven trips to the web based administrator. What is uncivilized is the total lack of response and uncivility from the list managers. At 11:53 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: Its always nice to know that these types of techniques are used in lieu of more civilized communications methods such as email or a telephone call. Suffice it to say that threats against a community endeavor such as this list are really frowned upon. Keep in mind that you may actually work with or for someone on this list. It seems that in your frustration (which seems warranted), you've hastily posted something that I would assume you don't mean. Am I correct? Have you tried contacting Michael Dinowitz directly? Are you sure that you're putting in the right email address in the unsubscribe dialog box? Rey Bango.. Chief Technology Officer OnlineDemocracy.com Certified Allaire Instructor Member of Team Allaire "A browser's beauty, at its heart, is its usefulness as a *TOOL*." - Original Message - From: "Internet Marketing Corporation" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Dude, You need to take a chill pill or something. Obviously you're not interested in discussing ColdFusion related topics and frankly if you were I don't think anyone would answer your questions after you threatened all of us for the past 2 days. If you haven't got a clue what e-mail address you used to subscribe, then it's going to be really tough to get you off this list. Perhaps the list owner can send out subscription verifications to everyone so that way the people who don't respond (such as yourself if you should happen to get the message) will be taken off the list. ---mark -- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Efax.com Fax: (801) 730-7289 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -- -Original Message- From: IVH Webmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe You are the ones who have been spamming **ME** you fucking asshole! My name is R. C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now what arer you going to do? At 12:58 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Wouldn't it be cool if stupidity was painful? Yeah...except that insurance/medicare costs would go through the roof when we were forced to subsidize treatments for #despised_group#. Either that, or the Politically Correct cadre would legislate that ALL people must be stupid; thus equality is ensured, and no one suffers just because a few snobs had the audacity to educate themselves and throw off the delicate balance. It'd still be fun to watch spammers squirm in agony, though. }:) Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore "I'm sorry, I can't hear you. God just sat on my Whoopee Cushion." - Kibo - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/c f_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRstsbodyRsts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
Interesting idea, Mark... But I'd have to say it's not a good one, ESPECIALLY over the July 4th week :) 'Sides, why should a thousand other people suffer because one person has a potty mouth, poor communication skills, and a general lack of respect for others Just my measly 2 cents on a discussion that has gone on quite long enough :) Calvin - Original Message - From: "Mark Warrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:48 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Dude, You need to take a chill pill or something. Obviously you're not interested in discussing ColdFusion related topics and frankly if you were I don't think anyone would answer your questions after you threatened all of us for the past 2 days. If you haven't got a clue what e-mail address you used to subscribe, then it's going to be really tough to get you off this list. Perhaps the list owner can send out subscription verifications to everyone so that way the people who don't respond (such as yourself if you should happen to get the message) will be taken off the list. ---mark -- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Efax.com Fax: (801) 730-7289 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -- -Original Message- From: IVH Webmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe You are the ones who have been spamming **ME** you fucking asshole! My name is R. C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now what arer you going to do? At 12:58 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Wouldn't it be cool if stupidity was painful? Yeah...except that insurance/medicare costs would go through the roof when we were forced to subsidize treatments for #despised_group#. Either that, or the Politically Correct cadre would legislate that ALL people must be stupid; thus equality is ensured, and no one suffers just because a few snobs had the audacity to educate themselves and throw off the delicate balance. It'd still be fun to watch spammers squirm in agony, though. }:) Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore "I'm sorry, I can't hear you. God just sat on my Whoopee Cushion." - Kibo - - Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/c f_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=stsbody=sts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. Hmmm... You say that you work for a marketting co. Why in hell did you subscribe to the list in the first place? Didn't you know that it was a Cold Fusion programming mailling list? And OH yeah, As fo the programmed posting bullsh*t, I used to say that when I was 9 years old. Hmmm.. Nuff said Dan (c)DLC Multimedia -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
Oh man, that's REAL sharp! Threatening the list and he doesn't even know what email address he's subscribed with. Somebody put that boy out of his misery! He's "really had quite enough"! - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:27 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe The address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscribed to the list. If your still receiving mail from the list, it means your subscribed under a different email address. Look through your addresses and see which is actually being used and unsubscribe that one. To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Unsubscribe
Better install my block filter now. - Steve -Original Message- From: Internet Marketing Corporation [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Too freakin funny... a spammer bitching about getting inundated by list emails? Whatsa madda your list harvester broken? Whhh. Steve To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Hey great marketing ploy. Everyone will be running your phone off the hook to get you do work for them, your email box will be filled to overflowing with requests for information. [shakes head] Why oh why didn't you just speak to the list owner, instead of publically humiliating yourself and your company??? -Original Message- From: Internet Marketing Corporation [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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cf_my_two_cents_worth Heh. Good job. Made an *ss out of yourself in front of the Web's best CF programmers! Is there an award for this? I'm thinkin this guy deserves a little gold statue of some sort. Anyway. Rather than threatening us, why don't you simply have your postmaster put a block on your POP box for the list address? Duh. Takes about 2 minutes to set up, and it's not nearly as hazardous to your health! Personally I love this list! Excellent advice and information mixed with an element of entertainment (thanks to you)! Last thing. You are one person. Don't you think that if you really launched an some automatic script to do whatever that there aren't several hundred people on this list capable of doing the same to you? Not a smart move. Try to learn from this and don't do this to the next time you want to unsubscribe. /cf_my_two_cents_worth Nick - Original Message - From: "Stephen Moretti" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Hey great marketing ploy. Everyone will be running your phone off the hook to get you do work for them, your email box will be filled to overflowing with requests for information. [shakes head] Why oh why didn't you just speak to the list owner, instead of publically humiliating yourself and your company??? -Original Message- From: Internet Marketing Corporation [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Marketing Corporation wrote: To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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On 6/22 you asked how to unsubscribe but did it under the subject thread of "RE: List of tables in Access 97" and surprisingly had one person post a reply. In the past, the person posting messages to the list included her name at the bottom of her email ... if you are not Veronica ... have you ever thought of asking her what email address she used to subscribe to the list? Michael Dinowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the person you need to contact with the correct subscribed email address. In you email header I found ppp93.blackbox1-mfs.netaxs.com Who is that? From an email analyzer tool: - imc001.ivq.com received this from someone claiming to be imc003 This doesn't match the IP address in the headers, so this may be a relay point. If so all headers below are probably forged. It really came from ppp93.blackbox1-mfs.netaxs.com - I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. Yes ... we have email addresses too like [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netaxs.com/netaxs/userguide/rules.html Failure to abide by these rules may result in immediate termination of your account without refund. 7. Harass users (on Net Access or elsewhere). Sending email or real-time messages to a user who has asked explicitly and unambiguously that you not do this is harassment. In some cases, a harassing user may be warned against engaging in similar behavior with other users as well. Publishing someone's real-world data (phone number, address, social security number, etc.) in a newsgroup or on the web, etc. in such a way as to cause the person trouble or to incite others to do so (even if you don't do it yourself) is also forbidden. (Establishing that the information you published is available, say, in a phone book somewhere does not constitute a defense of this kind of harassment.) 8. Abuse the services of a remote server, or violate a remote system's terms of service while connected to that service from your Net Access account. 9. Send unsolicited mass mailings or unsolicited subscriptions with a "negative option" for continuation. (The negative option is one where you invite people who do not wish to receive further mailings to reply to you.) You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar :) Joe Hoffman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] National Institutes of Health Center for Information Technology Division of Computer System Services -Original Message- From: Internet Marketing Corporation [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
"webmaster@" kind of overstates this person's importance, I would say. --John Allred Billy Cravens billy.cravens@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sabre.com cc: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe 06/29/2000 09:04 AM Please respond to cf-talk Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Marketing Corporation wrote: To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Fortunately, I'm both. The idiot in question is a spammer looking for any excuse to ply his spineless trade; I simply can't force myself to believe that one person could *really* be that stupid and continue breathing without mechanical assistance. He's either a startup or simply not very good at what he does, as AltaVista only located one other reference to ivh.com: http://www.xrt.upenn.edu/training/PResidents.html ...and I'm sure that has nothing to do with our anonymous, unwilling guest. Either way, killfiling him is the surest option; it's not as if we'll be missing anything - aside from entertainment on par with the primate house at the local zoo. Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore "I'm sorry, I can't hear you. God just sat on my Whoopee Cushion." - Kibo -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. Why, that's the best example of a business card I've seen on the net so far. :) Threatening to spam 1 to 2 thousand web developers (some who are fairly far up the food chain) definately isn't I think the best way to start out the week. But that's just my opinion of all this. :) --min -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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There's some amazing dynamic coding done behind the scenes on that site, I bet. It's the stuff that you DON'T see happening that's the real magic. CFUG-SFL Manager -Kev /CFUG-SFL Manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe "webmaster@" kind of overstates this person's importance, I would say. --John Allred Billy Cravens billy.cravens@To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sabre.com cc: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe 06/29/2000 09:04 AM Please respond to cf-talk Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Marketing Corporation wrote: To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Unsubscribe
I wonder if that's his home address. At 09:04 AM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Hehe... Check out their site, www.ivh.com To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Draw your own conclusion. -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Marketing Corporation wrote: To whom it may concern: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list both through the URL and the email interface for over six weeks now. I have a large stack of reply emails saying it was successful but the posting of this message is proof that it has **NOT** been successful. I am hereby giving notice that I am tired of being polite. I will wait 48 hours and if I am still on the list I will implement large volume programmed "posting" until my postings are no longer accepted. I have really had quite enough. R.C. Horsch Internet Marketing Corporation 215-997-1234 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Unsubscribe
Wouldn't it be cool if stupidity was painful? CFUG-SFL Manager -Kev /CFUG-SFL Manager -Original Message- From: Brandon Whitaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unsubscribe To avoid being unprofessional/tacky, I won't make any comments. Fortunately, I'm both. The idiot in question is a spammer looking for any excuse to ply his spineless trade; I simply can't force myself to believe that one person could *really* be that stupid and continue breathing without mechanical assistance. He's either a startup or simply not very good at what he does, as AltaVista only located one other reference to ivh.com: http://www.xrt.upenn.edu/training/PResidents.html ...and I'm sure that has nothing to do with our anonymous, unwilling guest. Either way, killfiling him is the surest option; it's not as if we'll be missing anything - aside from entertainment on par with the primate house at the local zoo. Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore "I'm sorry, I can't hear you. God just sat on my Whoopee Cushion." - Kibo -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Unsubscribe
Last thing. You are one person. Don't you think that if you really launched an some automatic script to do whatever that there aren't several hundred people on this list capable of doing the same to you? Not a smart move. Hmmm, how many of us could send a blitz to an email address, and if needs be, vary the email address, subject, content etc.? Or, to not break the law g How about how many Black Lists he can get on by Spamming? Real smart move... and how long do you think it'd take before it makes his email address look like ILOVEYOU was a single email if he annoys enough of us? Philip Arnold ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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Is this the 1st time this list has ever been unified on a topic. Don't you love it when someone brings out the best is us. don -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Last thing. You are one person. Don't you think that if you really launched an some automatic script to do whatever that there aren't several hundred people on this list capable of doing the same to you? Not a smart move. Hmmm, how many of us could send a blitz to an email address, and if needs be, vary the email address, subject, content etc.? Or, to not break the law g How about how many Black Lists he can get on by Spamming? Real smart move... and how long do you think it'd take before it makes his email address look like ILOVEYOU was a single email if he annoys enough of us? Philip Arnold ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
