Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 10:46 AM 01/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need to put a new ring pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be racing it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive it down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing around the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. Tom With that motor a 3.31 700R4 will boil the tires off be great on the highway. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I agre with clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31, my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new carrier? rick schaefer http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:46:29 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need to put a new ring pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be racing it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive it down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing around the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheet
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List LOL no problem but still they were built here in the USA so im thinking there for there still is no record of the build cause they didnt keep those records only Canada did wether they were built here or in japan, anyvehicle built here no matter where shipped cause thats irelivant to the fact that USA didnt keep records no im only guessing i could be wrong but thats what ive been told Ken D 72 HeavyChevy - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheet
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Larry i hope your not leaving because of me lol as u say in this list that Canadian vehicles built and shipped that is correct there built in Canada and shipped to the USA. thats what my car is it was built in Canada for sale to the USA. so there for i have the copy from Canada cause they kept the records USA. did not thats all im saying but dont leave on the count of me please i love the info you post good knowledge from youThanks. Ken D. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Since we're on the subject, what do you guys suggest for a 396/4 speed combo? I was thinking 3.31 or 3.55. I would like to be able to drive on the highway for long distances occasionally. Thanks, Matt '69 Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheet
If the vin number has a letter in the middle it is U.S. built so it is doubtful we would have any info unless it was originally sold in Canada. If the vin has the number 1 it is usually a Canadian built car and we should have info on it. If we have no info then there is no charge.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Yes,you will need a new carrier,Rick. That's probably the main reason I never switched to 3.55's. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: richard a schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31, my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new carrier? rick schaefer http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Tom I will have to agree with everyone that either a 3.31 or 3.55 gear would be great. Right now you could do the gears and then do the trans down the road. Valid point was brought up, what series carrier do you have now? If you are going to get the 3.31's you better start looking now as noone makes them new, you gotta reuse a GM set. On the note of the 700. Mom's car has 3.55's and just loves to cruise with the torque of the big block. Although we were all set to put a 3.31 in it when we found out the housing was an early one. So were just gonna save it for the 65 and stick with the gears she has now. We can talk about this more at the next meeting if ya want... later JJ On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need to put a new ring pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be racing it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive it down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing around the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List No you wouldnt as long as stay in the 3 series, i just went through it my self this past year i put back the original gear set that was in there when built which was 3.36.1 ratio was 373 ratio it has a m21, and going down the highway with 373 was tuff i would be winding the motor out more then i liked to to get to a cruisin speed thats why i went with the original i would have liked the 342 ratio but i couldnt get it cause i have a 10bolt rear Ken D. 72 HCC - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheet
if you read further the info sheet also states that GM Canada may have information on US built cars sold in Canada ie they have info on the COPO 427 Cameros that were built in Baltimore but sold in Canada. The whole point is that you can't go wrong phoning the toll free number cause they will not charge you if they have no info. I believe that GM Canada would have kept the records and spec sheets for some of the cars they imported up from the US for sale here , it then becomes a matter of which cars they kept records for...I mean you don't think that the US shipped cars here in the 60's without any sort of build sheet info , options etc going along with the car, and that GM Canada just put these cars on the lot without knowing anything about them do you? It juststands to reasonthat GM Canada kept documentation on the vehicles they shipped to dealers including some that were imported from the USbefore distribution to various Canadian dealerships. I don't know this for a fact but it seems reasonable givin that they kept records of cars they made here . Mel 67 Malibu SS - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheet If the vin number has a letter in the middle it is U.S. built so it is doubtful we would have any info unless it was originally sold in Canada. If the vin has the number 1 it is usually a Canadian built car and we should have info on it. If we have no info then there is no charge.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's TH400 28 tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it gets 15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot of road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like ordering a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used gears, thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying a done rear. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Every 4-series gear I ever heard had a pretty good whine. I think that's pretty normal. Especially the 4.30:1 F**d I once had under a '70 M*g (when I was still over on the dark side). Darrell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 January, 2002 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios * * * The 4.10's in it are used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying a done rear. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] SS hood stripes on '69 el Camino?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List David: I have read in more than one place that some (few) late '69's were built with the hood stripes. I would assume that they were the same as the '70 pattern. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] SS hood stripes on '69 el Camino? Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I've been pretty set on having the SS hood stripes painted on my '69 Elky while I'm having it painted now. My understanding at this point is that the Elky's did not come with the SS stripes on the hood and I guess this means they were not an option like they were on the Chevelles. This leads me to think of leaving them off, even though I'm not doing a stock color for the paint. I also wanted to do the lower side in a two tone color like you could get on the non SS cars. Because the SS cars didn't have the lower side body molding, I was thinking of doing the SS stripe on the side instead. Anyone have the dimensions for this? I bought the Photofacts El Camino book to help me research this but it turned out to be a waste of money, not telling me what options were available for individual years and instead showing me some bogus pictures of used (modified paint) El Caminos for the '69 year and not factory schemes or paint options. So now, I'm thinking of the SS stripe on the side and probably the Chevelle SS stripes on the BB hood, just because I think it shows off the form of the hood better. So, does anyone have the dimensions of the hood stripes for the '69 model. Also, does anyone have an example of the lower side two tone without the lower body side molding? I guess I could have a pinstripe border between the two colors. And I need to decide SOON. The shop wants to paint next week. Thanks, David - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's TH400 28 tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it gets 15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot of road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like ordering a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used gears, thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying a done rear. OK here's the old hot rodder's take on rear axle ratios and trannys. Keep the TH-400 and get a 3.73 gear set. Why not do the four speed?. You could get your 400 rebuilt and shift kitted twice before you could pay for the 700granted the 700 is a very good tranny, but it may be more expensive in the long run if you race it much. I think it's best to be at or less than 3K when cruising the highways. The 3.42 10 bolt is what all the G-body guys strive for, but If I could change my 3.08 tomorrow, I'd go 3.73. I drive the freeways about 40 miles a day and cruising at 80 runs 3k on the tach. Mileage? Who cares, I didn't buy my car to get good mileage, that's what TowRopers are for:) Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mel: exactly what I was trying to point out. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Tom, my question with the used gears would be more if they're set up properly. I really see no problem with used gears. I put them in my 12 bolt and have had no problems. (Although the car has not seen a lot of road time!) Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's TH400 28 tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it gets 15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot of road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like ordering a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used gears, thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying a done rear. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
tom has already told me his 4:10 have a 4 series carriers it was common practice to use a 3 series carrier with a ring spacer when going to 4 series gears. his does not have that so he will have to change. my suggestion offline (tom and i are really good buddies in spite the fact we live on opposite coasts) to tom was to keep the th400, fix the gears (the reason he is changing them is they are howling) and put a gear vendor over drive in. the gears are shot any old way you look at i so figure them a wash. i say to change over to 700r4 probably total is $1000.00 - 1250.00. to do the gear vendor you are looking at $2500.00. bottom line is you get for $1250.00 -1500.00 more a stronger transmission with a separate overdrive with six split speeds forward.the gear vendor is rated for 1200 HP. simply unbolt rear housing of th400 , bolt over drive on, shorten drive shaft and do a little wiring.you end up with a final drive of .75:1 Larry
RE: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Where did you go in Michigan? Also, where is it in Michigan? I live just East of Sandusky, OH, so it may be worth the drives to get a good set of bumpers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Milkiewicz Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Jim, I wasn't talking about turning your bumper in for another. Take yours to a plater and have them replate it for you. Most good platers can do wonders with a bad bumper. Even fix rust holes. I had my Nova bumper replated here in Mich. The car was hit in the rear and the bumper was dented up pretty good. After they gave it back to me you would have to look at the back side to tell it was repaired. It turned out better than new. COST.. $300.00 for both front and back. (1996). I'm sure prices have gone up. Rich - Original Message - From: Jim R Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks for the phone number. The front bumper on my car currently is WAY too good to hand over as a core, but yet it does have a couple of small rust spots on it, so I'm not sure how well it would come out replated (as well as I don't know what it would cost). Jim -69-SS396- H. On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:07:01 -0500 Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Jim, the phone number for Bumper Boyz is (800) 815-9009. Do you have an old set of bumpers that can be replated? This might be the way to go. - Original Message - From: Jim R Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:56 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List After calling the usual catalog vendors over the weekend that we usually do parts business with (Year One, OPG, The Paddock and NPD), I found that only Year One will attend Carlisle and they will only be taking orders there (not bringing any parts whatsoever). I called Ausley's today (who we've never dealt with, but whom we've seen at Carlisles the past few years we've come). know come to Carlisle). The guy on the phone told me that they will indeed be at Carlisle this year and that their bumper prices are now $209 (pretty much matching the catalog prices of the other vendors we usually deal with). He said that they'll bring 5 of each year's bumpers by default and that they will bring extras labelled by customer name if requested at least 2 weeks before the show. So, anyone out there have any positive or negative stories to tell about Ausley's bumpers? I'm really hoping that they would bring one and let me examine it before they run my credit card (as I'd really like to look at the quality of any bumper before I commit to buying it), but maybe they won't do that. Also, anyone have a phone number for the Bumper Boyz, as I'd like to talk to them before Carlisle, too. Since we've never done business with them *and* we've heard some negative things about them, I'm a bit wary to do business with them (and there's no way I'm giving up my current bumper as a core!), but I figure I shoudl at least try to get as much info on every vendor that I can, since this is a piece fo the car that is going to be very visible! As always, thank for any opinions in advance, Jim -69-SS396- H. By the way, has anyone measured the thickness of an original NOS bumper against the ones of Ausley (or anyone else such as the Bumper Boyz, for that matter? GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic,
[Chevelle-List] 350 SB
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am planning on building the 350SB with some longer term plans. The First stage would be to rebuild the current 350 so that it has some oomph. I am debating on the stroker in the beginning, but would like to stroke it in stage 2. I have read a few articles that claim stroking the motor is relatively inexpensive, since you can reuse many of the parts (heads, intake, cam, etc). Stage 3 would be to add a 6-71 to the 383. How feasible is this versus rebuilding to buying a BB? I am looking at some BB prices and wonder which would be cheaper v. performance. Any help is greatly appreciated! Kevin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
At 05:47 PM 01/23/2002, you wrote: tom has already told me his 4:10 have a 4 series carriers it was common practice to use a 3 series carrier with a ring spacer when going to 4 series gears. his does not have that so he will have to change. my suggestion offline (tom and i are really good buddies in spite the fact we live on opposite coasts) to tom was to keep the th400, fix the gears (the reason he is changing them is they are howling) and put a gear vendor over drive in. the gears are shot any old way you look at i so figure them a wash. i say to change over to 700r4 probably total is $1000.00 - 1250.00. to do the gear vendor you are looking at $2500.00. bottom line is you get for $1250.00 -1500.00 more a stronger transmission with a separate overdrive with six split speeds forward.the gear vendor is rated for 1200 HP. simply unbolt rear housing of th400 , bolt over drive on, shorten drive shaft and do a little wiring.you end up with a final drive of .75:1 I sure like that idea vs the four speed auto. BTW the 700R4's are well over $1500 if bought new. Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Rich, Thanks for the idea. After talking with Ausley's yesterday (they want $209 w/o shipping) the Bumper Boyz today (they want $295 for one w/o shipping), I'm inclined to look at one of Ausley's at Carlisle to see what they look like then decide from there. I suppose I could buy one from Ausley's and then think about getting my original one chromed somewhere down the road once it is off the car and a repro one on it Jim -69-SS396- H. On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:35:20 -0500 Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Jim, I wasn't talking about turning your bumper in for another. Take yours to a plater and have them replate it for you. Most good platers can do wonders with a bad bumper. Even fix rust holes. I had my Nova bumper replated here in Mich. The car was hit in the rear and the bumper was dented up pretty good. After they gave it back to me you would have to look at the back side to tell it was repaired. It turned out better than new. COST.. $300.00 for both front and back. (1996). I'm sure prices have gone up. Rich - Original Message - From: Jim R Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks for the phone number. The front bumper on my car currently is WAY too good to hand over as a core, but yet it does have a couple of small rust spots on it, so I'm not sure how well it would come out replated (as well as I don't know what it would cost). Jim -69-SS396- H. On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:07:01 -0500 Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Jim, the phone number for Bumper Boyz is (800) 815-9009. Do you have an old set of bumpers that can be replated? This might be the way to go. - Original Message - From: Jim R Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:56 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List After calling the usual catalog vendors over the weekend that we usually do parts business with (Year One, OPG, The Paddock and NPD), I found that only Year One will attend Carlisle and they will only be taking orders there (not bringing any parts whatsoever). I called Ausley's today (who we've never dealt with, but whom we've seen at Carlisles the past few years we've come). know come to Carlisle). The guy on the phone told me that they will indeed be at Carlisle this year and that their bumper prices are now $209 (pretty much matching the catalog prices of the other vendors we usually deal with). He said that they'll bring 5 of each year's bumpers by default and that they will bring extras labelled by customer name if requested at least 2 weeks before the show. So, anyone out there have any positive or negative stories to tell about Ausley's bumpers? I'm really hoping that they would bring one and let me examine it before they run my credit card (as I'd really like to look at the quality of any bumper before I commit to buying it), but maybe they won't do that. Also, anyone have a phone number for the Bumper Boyz, as I'd like to talk to them before Carlisle, too. Since we've never done business with them *and* we've heard some negative things about them, I'm a bit wary to do business with them (and there's no way I'm giving up my current bumper as a core!), but I figure I shoudl at least try to get as much info on every vendor that I can, since this is a piece fo the car that is going to be very visible! As always, thank for any opinions in advance, Jim -69-SS396- H. By the way, has anyone measured the thickness of an original NOS bumper against the ones of Ausley (or anyone else such as the Bumper Boyz, for that matter? Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List donnie, I have original GM tips on my 70. I'll get the number for you when I get home tonight, Tom Replies to this
RE: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I have a 2.73 rear behind my small block and 700R4, and I can tell I need more. I do get about 24 mpg cruising on the highway, but I have been planning to upgrade to a mid-3 series gear as well. 3.31 is a 20% increase for me and was likely what I was thinking of as this get very close to the optimal factor I have seen where they say divide 10 by first gear ratio and you have a good rear ratio (10/3.06=3.27). But with the large step between first (3.06) and second (1.63) on the 700R4, it might be better to go to the high end of the scale: 3.06*2.73= 8.35 3.06*3.31=10.13 3.06*3.55=10.86 3.06*3.73=11.41 3.06*4.11=12.58 Also, I assume I need a new carrier. I thought that the 12 bolt mid range carrier took 3.07 to 3.90 gears, but I have also seen it listed as 3.73 and below, and 3.73 and up, so there seems to be confusion out there... Brad Waller '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: Clint Hooper Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios Yes,you will need a new carrier,Rick. That's probably the main reason I never switched to 3.55's. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: richard a schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31, my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new carrier? rick schaefer http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Matt, I have a 396/4-speed and 3.07 gears. With my tires (27 inches tall), I'm turning right at 2900/3000 at 75. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com Since we're on the subject, what do you guys suggest for a 396/4 speed combo? I was thinking 3.31 or 3.55. I would like to be able to drive on the highway for long distances occasionally. Thanks, Matt '69 Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Guys, This is a great discussion and confirms my choice in my 65 elky. I have a 3.31 with a 700R4 behind a 383 set up for optimum torque, not horsepower. My goal was a responsive highway flyer instead of a quarter horse. bob Myers NC. The car will be finished in 1-2 months. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Another Question about Exhaust tips
On what year Chevelles were these chrome exhaust tips available. I think I remember seeing them on 69's and 70's??? Any other years? If you guys have them on any other year than 70... could you please take a look and send me the GM part #?? I have the GM# for the 70 SS (Thanks Tom!!) Thanks Donnie
Re: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
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Re: [Chevelle-List] 350 SB
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am planning on building the 350SB with some longer term plans. The First stage would be to rebuild the current 350 so that it has some oomph. I am debating on the stroker in the beginning, but would like to stroke it in stage 2. I have read a few articles that claim stroking the motor is relatively inexpensive, since you can reuse many of the parts (heads, intake, cam, etc). Stage 3 would be to add a 6-71 to the 383. How feasible is this versus rebuilding to buying a BB? I am looking at some BB prices and wonder which would be cheaper v. performance. Any help is greatly appreciated! Pick up the new CHPdollar for dollar the SC 383 and BB are the same price and virtually the same performance numbersif it were my choice though, I'd go BB. Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
I'M LOOKING TO HAVE MY CAR PAINTED THIS SPRING CAN ANYBODY RECOMMEND A SHOP WESTERN SUB. OF CHICAGO THANKS JERRY
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
If you have that kind of money to throw around,why not just install a built 4L80? All it is is a HD TH400 w/OD. Cheaper,strong,and less hassle. If it was my car,I wouldn't even go that far. If the car already had a TH400 installed,just install a set of 3.55's or something close. Add a decent torque converter and you're ready to go. For a pure street car,the difference between a 4.10 cog and a 3.55 is negligible,anyway. A big block can easily pull a tall gear and 28" tall tire. Ring gear spacers? In this day and age,I would not even consider using one. No offense,Larry. Clint HooperLT5 RegistryWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636 anytime'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952TX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tom has already told me his 4:10 have a 4 series carriers it was common practice to use a 3 series carrier with a ring spacer when going to 4 series gears. his does not have that so he will have to change. my suggestion offline (tom and i are really good buddies in spite the fact we live on opposite coasts) to tom was to keep the th400, fix the gears (the reason he is changing them is they are howling) and put a gear vendor over drive in. the gears are shot any old way you look at i so figure them a wash. i say to change over to 700r4 probably total is $1000.00 - 1250.00. to do the gear vendor you are looking at $2500.00. bottom line is you get for $1250.00 -1500.00 more a stronger transmission with a separate overdrive with six split speeds forward.the gear vendor is rated for 1200 HP. simply unbolt rear housing of th400 , bolt over drive on, shorten drive shaft and do a little wiring.you end up with a final drive of .75:1 Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sounds like a sweet combination,Bob. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guys, This is a great discussion and confirms my choice in my 65 elky. I have a 3.31 with a 700R4 behind a 383 set up for optimum torque, not horsepower. My goal was a responsive highway flyer instead of a quarter horse. bob Myers NC. The car will be finished in 1-2 months. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] TH400 ID - BOP vs. Chevy?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Fries Auto Parts has a TH400 transmission in a crate, which was purchased new and never used. How do I tell visually if it is a BOP TH400 or a Chevy TH400? We have not opened the crate yet. Thanks, John Nasta http://fendersandparts.com http://oldcarnetwork.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the only reason mine whines so loudly is because I didn;t set it up. i bought the rear done and just put it in the car. i should have taken it apart and checked it, but i didn;t, so now i'm paying for it now. The guy that did the rear set it up half ass b/c it was to be put in a drag car. I tried to fix it by setting the pinion depth where it was supposed to be and it made it worse. i put a 3.42 posi in my 86 Cutlass and its quiet as can be. Tom
[Chevelle-List] Paint and autobody....
Does any one know of any web sites that offer tips and tricks to doing your own bodywork and paint..???.Hows about good books on the subject...I'm thinking about doing my 66 myself...I know some of the basics but.well there is always room for more knowledge...!!! Thanx..John
Re: [Chevelle-List] TH400 ID - BOP vs. Chevy?
bolt pattern from tranny to the block. the BOP tranny will have high mounted upper holes. see the poor illustration below. the upper 2 mounting holes on the BOP tranny are in the same place as a chevy trans but higher up. i hope this makes sense. Tom Chevy BOP o o o o o o o o o o o o
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Once a rear end starts to howl,it's toast about 99% of the time. Clint HooperLT5 RegistryWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636 anytime'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952TX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the only reason mine whines so loudly is because I didn;t set it up. i bought the rear done and just put it in the car. i should have taken it apart and checked it, but i didn;t, so now i'm paying for it now. The guy that did the rear set it up half ass b/c it was to be put in a drag car. I tried to fix it by setting the pinion depth where it was supposed to be and it made it worse. i put a 3.42 posi in my 86 Cutlass and its quiet as can be. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-List] TH400 ID - BOP vs. Chevy?
Thanks Tom. I have to get down to the store and pop that crate open. Will let you guys know what it turns out to be. This tranny will be f/s as soon as I have determined for sure what it is. For you guys in the NYC area, this may be a chance to get a brand new (i.e never used) TH400 at a good price. John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- bolt pattern from tranny to the block. the BOP tranny will have high mounted upper holes. see the poor illustration below. the upper 2 mounting holes on the BOP tranny are in the same place as a chevy trans but higher up. i hope this makes sense. Tom Chevy BOP o o o o o o o o o o o o
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheet
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List seems like this site is like all the car clubs are. a certain clique of people run the show. one guy sends out some thing on a build sheet and gets replys for days, others ask a question and nothing seems to come of it. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
I SAY PUT SOME 5;13 IN 'ER!
Re: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PAINT SHOP?? WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED??? CHECK OUT OR WORK AT; http://hometown.aol.com/harkem123/HarlanKemperAssociatesindex.html sorry it's so long, but it will be worth your typin' time! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PAINT SHOP?? He said he was. WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED??? He said he was in Chicago, in the suburbs west of town I believe. CHECK OUT OR WORK AT; http://hometown.aol.com/harkem123/HarlanKemperAssociatesindex.html sorry it's so long, but it will be worth your typin' time! URL looks incorrect. Shouldn't it be http://hometown.aol.com/harkem123/HarlanKemperAssociates/index.html? Hard to tell since Almost On Line seems to be down right now anyway. Dale - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] No help
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List No offense but looking over the last couple of days, the only question I saw was about 68 Chevelle paint around 9:00pm Monday night. At least that's the date/time stamp on the copy I received. Maybe nobody has a 68 that's been on in the last couple of days. BTW, four of your responses were with the subject of Barrett-Jackson and one was of those was off subject talking about aluminum LS6's or LS7's - and I believe that was answered by a number of folks. I don't know how long you've been on the list but I know Clint has been here for quite a while off and on and has given some expert advise and qualified opinions. I've seen numerous replies to Tom and from Tom to things he probably knows about. Larry has also been a frequent contributor here both asking and answering questions. In less than 5 minutes you come back with your own thought to the question being asked about rear end ratios and not really an answer but an opinion. Remember, the thread started about what gear everybody was running. Are you running a 5:13 and plan on doing any highway driving? I know your response was probably in fun but didn't answer the question but quite a few hundred subscribers saw it, or will see it when they log back in. Sometimes it just takes a while for people to get to know you and respond quickly. Hang in there and don't get frustrated, OK? If anybody knows or has an educated guess, they'll be along to help. Now, anybody know if the lower body color on a 68 Chevelle wraps into the door jam and if so, how far? Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com i wish i were tom or larry or clint so i could get anwsers to my questions - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Where is this place located at. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PAINT SHOP?? WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED??? CHECK OUT OR WORK AT; http://hometown.aol.com/harkem123/HarlanKemperAssociatesindex.html sorry it's so long, but it will be worth your typin' time! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] TH400 ID - BOP vs. Chevy?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I LIKE TO BOP WITH YOU BABY ALL NIGHT LONG, I LIKE TO BE-BOP WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List put some bananas in it sell it quick, this will stop the whine!! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Almost On Line finally came up and your original URL is correct. Only the first group of pictures have loaded so far at least it made a connection; nice looking Nova BTW! Never seen an index page with that long a name before. Is area code 651 in Minneapolis/St. Paul? Might be a bit further west of Chicago than he planned on though; maybe not (?) Dale - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: wwwchevelles.net: host not fou...
---BeginMessage--- The original message was received at Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:23:31 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: wwwchevelles.net: host not found) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; wwwchevelles.net Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:23:37 -0500 (EST) ---BeginMessage--- i have a chevelle with a worked 406 in it, the rear end is being narrowed and the back half being done, it sports 455 horse on the dyno plus i plan to add my nitrous to it (100-125hp) i asked the shop that was doing the work if the car will pull the front tires off the ground, they said no! (im running a worked th350) i would need to run a power glide for a deeper 1st gear. i spoke to a trans shop who said this was not true the th350 or th400 would be better- who is correct what should i do?? i will be doing some street driving as well. i have not picked my rear end ratio yet. (ford 9)-but i long to pull a wheelie!! ---End Message--- ---End Message---
RE: [Chevelle-List] TH400 ID - BOP vs. Chevy?
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Buick - Oldsmobile - Pontiac. I LIKE TO BOP WITH YOU BABY ALL NIGHT LONG, I LIKE TO BE-BOP WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Check out http://hometown.aol.com/harkem123/HarlanKemperAssociatesindex.html
Click here: http://hometown.aol.com/harkem123/HarlanKemperAssociatesindex.html here is a link to our paint shop, if you are still interested. we are in minnesota just north of the twin cities about 30 miles
Re: [Chevelle-List] No help
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List sorry, your'e right, i guess i just like you say got frustrated, yes the 5;13 was just in fun-- no offense- sorry!! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] LOOKING FOR PAINT SHOP
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List i left a link in one of the other replys, it is in minnesota- about 30 miles north of twin cities - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List ohh, ok so it works on them all!! sorry off the subject but do they make a powerglide like this that would bolt up to a buick 455 or 350?? do you know the cost of the unit?? thanks for this anwser!! makes sense now- obvious!! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List yes probably futher, i was not sure where he was the first time! thanks for the comment on the nova, alot of people thought it was real although it was candy red!! but if they asked me i always said no not real we hand painted on those stripes just from pictures, we thought it looked nicer than the ones that yenko had high school kids putting on!!! i'll bet if mr. Don Yenko would have known what he had he would have been more meticulous.?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] wheel stands
---BeginMessage--- ---BeginMessage--- The original message was received at Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:23:31 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Transcript of session follows - 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: wwwchevelles.net: host not found) Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; wwwchevelles.net Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:23:37 -0500 (EST) ---BeginMessage--- i have a chevelle with a worked 406 in it, the rear end is being narrowed and the back half being done, it sports 455 horse on the dyno plus i plan to add my nitrous to it (100-125hp) i asked the shop that was doing the work if the car will pull the front tires off the ground, they said no! (im running a worked th350) i would need to run a power glide for a deeper 1st gear. i spoke to a trans shop who said this was not true the th350 or th400 would be better- who is correct what should i do?? i will be doing some street driving as well. i have not picked my rear end ratio yet. (ford 9)-but i long to pull a wheelie!! ---End Message--- ---End Message--- ---End Message---
Re: [Chevelle-List] TH400 ID - BOP vs. Chevy?
John: if its a chevy I would be interested. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios
What was your question? Larry
