RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires.
Yeah! Everything Clint said plus ripping up the sidewalls because they still rubbed the fender lip. But it sure looked cool 35 years ago, eh? LOL! Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Back in the old days,Chad,we jacked up our cars with air shocks and silly extended shackles because we couldn't get wheels with the correct backspacing to make larger tires fit inside the wheelwells,where they belong. Jacked-up rear ends look dumb,handle like crap,and cause wheelhop like crazy. Sorry for being so blunt. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Chad P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] my dad told me that all of his cars, he used to airshock the back up and put some L-60's in the back. said they were like 11 inches wide. They were cool, and I always wondered why nobody does that nowadays. they look neat, makes it look muscular. my dad said that the front tires used to wear off quicker than the back, but since he did burnouts every once in a while, the back tires used to match up with the front, lol. bye. Chad - Original Message - From: Richard M. Pruett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Mark, Since no one answered your post, I will try to shed some light. I am old enough to remember bias ply tires and how they rode. In fact, I use to sell tires when the new radials were first coming out; I was a very young man! As I remember, bias ply tires were rough riding and did not give you the feel of the road that the radials do today. You will probably forfeit about 2/3 to 1/2 of the traction of a radial. If you had nylon cords, they would develop a flat spot after sitting for a while, say overnite, and bump for a while until they warmed up. The poly-glas retro tires you are referring to means they have polyester cords and fiberglass belts. Decent ride for the time but not the ride a radial will give you. Steel belts were available as well if you wanted to feel as though you were driving a half-track. They will not corner as well and will hydroplane much easier as you will have less traction, less of a footprint, on the road. One good thing about bias-ply tires, if you are into this, is that they will grow when you spin them. In other words, get a larger diameter. Drag racers use bias-ply tires because they grow and they have a greater diameter tire; with each turn of the tire, they will go further. I suspect you are putting Poly-glas tires on to be era or period correct and that case, the G-60 or 8.25-15 is what we used to sell to the guys during those days. The F was a 7.95. Hope this helps. Rich, The young teenager of the 60's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Weber Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Any comments on the retro bias ply tires that Good Year and Firestone make? I am of the age where everything I have owned has had radials. I am curious about the traction of the bias ply vs. the radial. I expect the ride to be a little rougher, smoother ride is a benefit of radials. I ordered Good Year Poly Glas F60's for my Chevelle, my build sheet had the code for 15 F60. Mark 71 SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
sounds good but lets not lower ourselves to this man's standards (yet). john needs to make his decision on how he wasn't to handle this. in my youth i worked for a friend in a body shop and i do to this day have several friends who own shops or are body / paint men. would i have any of them do work on my chevelle? no ! ; i think not. even those with nice shops cannot seem to understand how to bid collector car work. I always ask about paint and body work and I can't say I have ever got a complete positive feedback on any question I have asked. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Q: Electric fan!
Ooh, I like! If my 2800 CFM Black Magic can't handle the task for my Corvette, this really looks like the ticket, assuming it will fit the '63-'67 radiator. 4600 CFM should be able to handle anything you could install under a Chevelle hood. At 16-28 Amps, you better make sure your alternator can handle the extra juice, and that your wallet is ready for the $370 or so that this will cost. Brad Waller '67 Chevelle '66 Corvette On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 10:52 PM, Pelle Andersson wrote: I'm thinking of buying this one! http://www.flex-a-lite.com/Press/295%20perf.doc Pelle - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:19 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Q: Electric fan! Clint, if you like the way it is now, wait until I get the new Ron Davis radiator setup installed. In addition to the custom fabbed rad, they're building a totally cool shroud to mount the fans on and a matching recovery tank! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Q: Electric fan! That's what I plan to use when I install my big block in my 69. I really like your set-up,Herb. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a pair of 12 Spal fans, part number 30100176, and they do a wonderful job keeping my 454 cool. They aren't cheap at $150 or so each. I'm using a relay with a thermostatic switch and I also have a toggle switch under the dash to override the thermo switch when the A/C is running. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Strange Dilemma= Thanks Phil
What is it that you want the car for? Price appreciation, to cruise in, or to win trophies with? It'd be an easy choice for me, as I want to drive all my cars. I would sell the SS and keep the two fun cars. Your logic will be different. But if you sell the SS, it will bring in good money, and the others may not sell as easily. Brad Waller '67 Chevelle SS396 (no more 396, now 350, lots of other mods) '66 Corvette (no more 327, lots of other mods) On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 08:15 PM, Ken's Email wrote: Phil: Your analysis was right on point. But, take a look at the Old Price Car guide and see how these cars are appreciating. Decisions, Decisions. Thanks. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken: You sound like a 67 Chevelle guy to me. If anything's got to go, sell the 57. It needs the most work and probably $ also. Not knowing your age, if you're 50's or younger then the 57 was your father's generation. If you're in your 60's then the choice/dilema is harder. The 67 SS sounds great and probably wins alot of awards. As another thought, maybe you could sell the 57 and the malibu and pick up a 67 Elky SS or another 67 SS to make a driver out of. I really envy your dilema though. I wish I had the room in the garage and some extra $. I'd have a 65 Elky SS driver tow car. Old car guys get nostalgic on any old car but sometimes we have to make realistic decisions. Best of luck to you in making yours. Just my 2 cents worth of thinking out loud! As a closing thought, I was at a show Saturday and saw a 55 Gasser. I have alot of memories of these at the dragstrips from! even B4 I could drive, and while I enjoy looking I don't want to build or own one. I! 'm almost 55 and the era I love the most is the mid 60's. I can enjoy and appreciate what came B4 and after though. Sorry to ramble. Oh, you asked for opinions not thoughts!! Take what you want and throw the rest away. Have a great day Phil G. 65 SS
Re: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires.
Yea, your right Clint. But every time I see one "RAKED" I still think it looks so cl. Back in the '60's that was the thing to do. I can remember going to Hollywood Hot Rod shop to get the biggest risers that I could find to get that baby in the air, then cruising all the root beer stands with my buddies to show off. Crazy? Yes. Fun? You bet, and I have a lot of fond memories that keeps this 60 year old still skinning his knuckles on that '60 iron. It wasn't always just to fit bigger tires. I think mostly it was for the look. If it was raked you were hip. Dumb but hip. Hey, what's more important when your 17? Being smart or being cool. I remember my dad saying to me all the time "are you crazy" What have you done to your car? But dad, this is s cl. And the chicks dig it. Boy, what would we do if we didn't have memories of our youth. For me, it keeps me young. RichACES # 05066 - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Back in the old days,Chad,we jacked up our cars with air shocks and sillyextended shackles because we couldn't get wheels with the correctbackspacing to make larger tires fit inside the wheelwells,where theybelong. Jacked-up rear ends look dumb,handle like crap,and cause wheelhoplike crazy. Sorry for being so blunt.Clint HooperLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm- Original Message -From: Chad P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] my dad told me that all of his cars, he used to airshock the back up andput some L-60's in the back. said they were like 11 inches wide. They were cool, and I always wondered why nobody does that nowadays. they lookneat, makes it look muscular. my dad said that the front tires used to wear off quicker than the back, but since he did burnouts every once in a while,the back tires used to match up with the front, lol. bye. Chad - Original Message - From: "Richard M. Pruett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Mark, Since no one answered your post, I will try to shed some light. I am old enough to remember bias ply tires and how they rode. In fact, I use to sell tires when the "new" radials were first coming out; I was a very young man! As I remember, bias ply tires were rough riding and did not give you the feel of the road that the radials do today. You will probably forfeit about 2/3 to 1/2 of the traction of a radial. If you had nylon cords, theywould develop a flat spot after sitting for a while, say overnite, and "bump" for a while until they warmed up. The poly-glas "retro" tires you are referring to means they havepolyester cords and fiberglass belts. Decent ride for the time but not the ride a radial will give you. Steel belts were available as well if you wantedto feel as though you were driving a half-track. They will not corner aswell and will hydroplane much easier as you will have less traction, less ofa footprint, on the road. One good thing about bias-ply tires, if you are into this, is that they will "grow" when you spin them. In other words, get a larger diameter. Drag racers use bias-ply tires because they "grow" and they have a greater diameter tire; with each turn of the tire, they will go further. I suspect you are putting Poly-glas tires on to be "era" or periodcorrect and that case, the G-60 or 8.25-15 is what we used to sell to the guys during those days. The F was a 7.95. Hope this helps. Rich, The young teenager of the 60's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Weber Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Any comments on the retro bias ply tires that Good Year and Firestone make? I am of the age where everything I have owned has had radials. I am curious about the traction of the bias ply vs. the radial. I expect the ride to be a little rougher, smoother ride is a benefit of radials. I ordered Good Year Poly Glas F60's for my Chevelle, my build sheet had the code for "15 F60". Mark 71 SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL
[Chevelle-List] Q: Is something wrong with my rear axle?
When I waschanging the rear axle oil i noticed that the old oil had a "metallic luster" compared to the new oil, no pieces or chunks though. Is that normal or do I have a serious problem here? Best regards Pelle Andersson
Re: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires.
In a message dated 7/7/2003 11:33:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back in the old days,Chad,we jacked up our cars with air shocks and silly extended shackles because we couldn't get wheels with the correct backspacing to make larger tires fit inside the wheelwells,where they belong. Jacked-up rear ends look dumb,handle like crap,and cause wheelhop like crazy. Sorry for being so blunt. Clint Hooper Ditto. Tom
[Chevelle-List] Iola 2003
The Iola (WI) Old Car Show and Swap Meet, billed as the largest in the Midwest, is this week. More than 4350 swap meet spaces (up about 150 since last year), a Saturday car auction, a Car Corral, and acres of show cars. Several Chevelle-specific big name vendors (CARS, etc) plus lots of Chevelle nuts selling some of their extra parts. And everything else automotive related you ever wanted to see, and some you don't ever want to see again! Log on to www.iolaoldcarshow.comfor further info and driving directions. Any of you Chevelle folks planning to attend? We will be set up at swap sites AW 59 60 61, to the northeast of the Tower landmark. We'll haul up our first load of stuff Wednesday late afternoon, and move up for the duration Thursday morning. Stop by - we'd love to meet others from the chevelle-list! Jim central WI 12 miles from IolaACES #20202 - '66 SS's and partner Keith2 - '67 Chevelle SS's, one in the Blue Ribbon showcar section and partner Duane1 - '36 Chev pickup 4 x 4, SBC 350 and more - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
That's funny. I just happened to go on their web site last night and felt the same way. That line about how they give the best quality work for the lowest possible price is exactly the opposite of what I got. I got terrible work at a very high price. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures If you go on John website, then to the body shop website, and read thier mission, its almost like they read it, and said, Lets do the opposite -Tim- 1966 Chevelle
Re:[Chevelle-List] One more movie clip...
Thats cool ! It's about 9.5 megs, but I have to laugh everytime I watch it! http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/Vette.zip - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Is something wrong with my rear axle?
When I waschanging the rear axle oil i noticed that the old oil had a "metallic luster" compared to the new oil, no pieces or chunks though. Is that normal or do I have a serious problem here? Best regards Pelle Andersson
Re: [Chevelle-List] Q: Is something wrong with my rear axle?
Pelle I think that due to the nature of the rear axle what you are seeing is normal. Our race car has a F**D 9 icnch and we made a gear change with out any laps on the oil and it had that same look you are talking about. We put same oil back in since there was no laps on the oil. Have had no problems with the rear end. http://www.rcracing-team.com Jason Boivin http://home.wizard.org/twchevelle/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
Oddly enough, Ron wrote me saying that he has been getting emails about my car, and that most of them are favorable, and that when people see the pictures they see that he did a good job. That's why I decided to post just a few of the pictures that show the real story. I am not going to sue Ron because he lives five and a half hours from me and I can't have my time tied up running back and forth to court. The defendant gets 2 chances to appear before there is a default, so he can basically force me to go out there the first time for nothing. Also, there's a big difference between winning a judgment and getting paid. Maybe I could put a lien on his house but I couldn't force him to sell it. Right now I would like to get my sway bar picked up, and even that seems to be too much to ask for. I sent 3 separate emails last week asking when I could have my sway bar picked up, and never got a straight answer. The most ironic thing to me about that highest quality work for the lowest possible price b.s. is that Ron will never, ever even estimate how much a job will cost. Then he tells you that the reason it came out bad was because you didn't spend enough money. Well, I spent the amount that he asked for. Was I supposed to send more than that? The bottom line is that he did a crappy job for a lot of money. Really the whole car should be done over and I'm assuming that the brand new quarter panel I bought is likely to end up in the garbage along with Ron's shabby floorboard patches, and the dust from the paint job that will have to come off. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John W. Lonadier, Jr. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures John, I feel for you about the raw deal that the professional gave you. I noticed that you included a link to the chop, I mean shop that did the butchering, er work on your elky. Members of this list should all email him about how crappy of a job that he did on your elky and inform him that we will do all in our power through the internet to inform people about what kind of work this man does. It might even help you out with him offering to give a little of your hard earned money back along with the parts sent back to you that he has. Just my .02. How does the rest of the list feel? John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:46 PM To: Olds Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures There are some new pics at: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/ You can have a laugh at the one on top, and then scroll down to the ones that show more serious damage. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] pics
Title: Message That lightning picture is so cool. Larry 72 El Camino -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rodney.Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] pics Anyone is welcome to put pictures in my album on Imagestation.com Here's the link: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291498165code=5688134mode=invite Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spiderman86Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] pics sure would be nice to have a place we could all post pics for the group to see without sending out 2 dozen emails just my 2 cents worth Bill B. 1967 malibu Edmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspicshttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
Re: [Chevelle-List] 16 rally wheels for sale
Hi Guys, I have a set of four 16" rally wheels that are 8" wide. I had them on my 65 el camino and the rears are custom made to fit the stock small wheel well openings. Included with the wheels are 4 trim rings in stainless steel and 4 corvette small flat rally caps ( these are the best looking caps chev ever made} . The set also includes 2 like new rear Goodyear 235/60/16 tires mounted and balanced, and 2 good front Goodyear 225/60/16 tires mounted and balanced. The wheels have been painted silver with clear urethane top cpat. $600 plus shipping. I will list them here before I use ebay. Pic available via email. Thanx, Bob Myers.
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
John, Until now I've been quiet on this matter, but i think its kind of too easy money for Ron (If you go over to his shop he will be without his pants because he did laugh them of thinking about how he cheated you). I dont know how much you earn or how solid your economy is overall, but I know for sure that I'm really far of coming even close to $ 9000 a month so I'll be willing to spend that time to get at least something out of him. You say that you maybe wont get anything more than a lien on his house, but if he ever sells it he'll have to pay your $$$ before buying a new one, and he will have problems getting a loan (Now I speak of how it is in Norway). And John, he blew your $ 9000 and you keep worrying about a $100 sway bar (that you probably could get new for $50 with your contacts)!?!?! Dont you have an old school friend who is willing to pick up $1 from Ron to bring your $9000 back where they belong ? André Oddly enough, Ron wrote me saying that he has been getting emails about my car, and that most of them are favorable, and that when people see the pictures they see that he did a good job. That's why I decided to post just a few of the pictures that show the real story. I am not going to sue Ron because he lives five and a half hours from me and I can't have my time tied up running back and forth to court. The defendant gets 2 chances to appear before there is a default, so he can basically force me to go out there the first time for nothing. Also, there's a big difference between winning a judgment and getting paid. Maybe I could put a lien on his house but I couldn't force him to sell it. Right now I would like to get my sway bar picked up, and even that seems to be too much to ask for. I sent 3 separate emails last week asking when I could have my sway bar picked up, and never got a straight answer. The most ironic thing to me about that highest quality work for the lowest possible price b.s. is that Ron will never, ever uch a job will cost. Then he tells you that the reason it came out bad was because you didn't spend enough money. Well, I spent the amount that he asked for. Was I supposed to send more than that? The bottom line is that he did a crappy job for a lot of money. Really the whole car should be done over and I'm assuming that the brand new quarter panel I bought is likely to end up in the garbage along with Ron's shabby floorboard patches, and the dust from the paint job that will have to come off. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John W. Lonadier, Jr. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures John, I feel for you about the raw deal that the professional gave you. I noticed that you included a link to the chop, I mean shop that did the butchering, er work on your elky. Members of this list should all email him about how crappy of a job that he did on your elky and inform him that we will do all in our power through the internet to inform people about what kind of work this man does. It might even help you out with him offering to give a little of your hard earned money back along with the parts sent back to you that he has. Just my .02. How does the rest of the list feel? John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:46 PM To: Olds Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures There are some new pics at: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/ You can have a laugh at the one on top, and then scroll down to the ones that show more serious damage. J - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] pics
Title: Message Thanks Larry! I think a couple of years ago someone else on the list did one of their car, so I had to try it out with mine :) The one I really like, I did as a homework assignment for a Photoshop class. You can see it on Team Chevelle at http://www.chevelles.com/backgrounds/bg_rodney800.html Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ButlerSent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:43 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] pics That lightning picture is so cool. Larry 72 El Camino -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rodney.Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] pics Anyone is welcome to put pictures in my album on Imagestation.com Here's the link: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291498165code=5688134mode=invite Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spiderman86Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] pics sure would be nice to have a place we could all post pics for the group to see without sending out 2 dozen emails just my 2 cents worth Bill B. 1967 malibu Edmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspicshttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
RE: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump
Pelle, I have been looking into replacing my washer pump also. Not sure if I have this all correct. First, there are two types of wiper systems. The hidden type has a motor that has a round "barrel" bottom (angled 45 degrees downward to the right when viewing the firewall from the front of the car). The non-hidden type has arectangular looking motor. Each motor type has a different washer pump. As far as I can tell, all SS models have the hidden type of windshield wipers. My non-SS 72 Elky has hidden wipers also.I also see mention of "Demand" wiper systems. This system uses the same motor but has an additional relay (i.e. read different wiring harness) and uses a switch on the shifter handle. I am not sure this was an option on Chevelles especially those that have floor shifters. Larry 72 El Camino -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:37 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump How many different windshield washer pumps are there to the -71 2-D HT model? Best regards Pelle Andersson
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
I'll fight it if I can get a lawyer to take the case on a contingency basis (no fee unless damages are collected). Small claims court is not enough money, and a lawyer for a real court case could cost more than any damages that might ever be actually collected, which would just result in more time and money out the window. I know, I have thought to myself that by comparison it's kind of petty to worry about the sway bar right now, but it would only cost me about $15 in shipping to get it back and I can't buy one for that amount. It also belongs to me and I don't see why Ron should get to keep it. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump
IIRC all GM A-body cars had hidden wipers by 1970. I think 1969 was the last year for the 2dr post cars. I could be wrong though. That's just from memory. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Larry Butler Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump Pelle, I have been looking into replacing my washer pump also. Not sure if I have this all correct. First, there are two types of wiper systems. The hidden type has a motor that has a round barrel bottom (angled 45 degrees downward to the right when viewing the firewall from the front of the car). The non-hidden type has arectangular looking motor. Each motor type has a different washer pump. As far as I can tell, all SS models have the hidden type of windshield wipers. My non-SS 72 Elky has hidden wipers also.I also see mention of Demand wiper systems. This system uses the same motor but has an additional relay (i.e. read different wiring harness) and uses a switch on the shifter handle. I am not sure this was an option on Chevelles especially those that have floor shifters. Larry 72 El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump
The first pump I got was the square modelbut I'm returning that one this week will hopefully get the correct onenext time!? The original washer pump I've got is based on a slightly "pear shaped" base plate with rounded corners. Thepump I'm gettinghas a black carbon reinforced plastic pump which is stronger, withstand cold much better doesn't get brittle over timelike the original "white" pump. (I'm told) Best regards Pelle - Original Message - From: Larry Butler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump Pelle, I have been looking into replacing my washer pump also. Not sure if I have this all correct. First, there are two types of wiper systems. The hidden type has a motor that has a round "barrel" bottom (angled 45 degrees downward to the right when viewing the firewall from the front of the car). The non-hidden type has arectangular looking motor. Each motor type has a different washer pump. As far as I can tell, all SS models have the hidden type of windshield wipers. My non-SS 72 Elky has hidden wipers also.I also see mention of "Demand" wiper systems. This system uses the same motor but has an additional relay (i.e. read different wiring harness) and uses a switch on the shifter handle. I am not sure this was an option on Chevelles especially those that have floor shifters. Larry 72 El Camino -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:37 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Q: Windshield washer pump How many different windshield washer pumps are there to the -71 2-D HT model? Best regards Pelle Andersson
Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top on 7/7/03 2:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/7/03 1:40:17 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are just the plastic part of the hold-down, and attach to the metal part of your existing hardware. HTH. Chuck THANKS Chuck, all I have is the quarter trim panels- i need all the rest- how many diffrent pieces are there?? will the top fly up while driving without them? The metal part that the plastic tabs attach to are stainless, about 16 gauge and about six inches long and an inch wide. I doubt that without them the top will fly up, especially if you have the top boot properly installed. Nobody I know of is repopping the metal part of the latch, so you'll probably have to find them in a junkyard or swap meet. Push comes to shove, you may be able to fab up a pair using the info I've just provided. If they're not perfect, who cares? They aren't visible with the top down anyway, and barely visible from the inside with the top up. Good luck finding or fabbing what you need. Chuck
Re: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
John: This guy isn't that far from me. I can take a ride up and kick his ASS for ya. Craig 69SS - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures I'll fight it if I can get a lawyer to take the case on a contingency basis (no fee unless damages are collected). Small claims court is not enough money, and a lawyer for a real court case could cost more than any damages that might ever be actually collected, which would just result in more time and money out the window. I know, I have thought to myself that by comparison it's kind of petty to worry about the sway bar right now, but it would only cost me about $15 in shipping to get it back and I can't buy one for that amount. It also belongs to me and I don't see why Ron should get to keep it. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures I'll fight it if I can get a lawyer to take the case on a contingency basis (no fee unless damages are collected). Small claims court is not enough money, and a lawyer for a real court case could cost more than any damages that might ever be actually collected, which would just result in more time and money out the window. What you need to do is find a young lawyer who just passed the Bar exam. They are hungry for cases (and future referrals) and are more willing to take cases that might only net then a few thousand dollars like yours. Typical deals are 25%-33% of a settlement pre-trial, and 40%-50% once a trial has started, all after taking out expenses. I had a small deal once with a deal similar to the above terms, and the lawyer was young. He gave me very close to my 30% even after expenses. He could have taken far more, but since the settlement was only a few thousand dollars he ate much of the costs in his fee to make me happy. The way I found this guy was to talk to the lawyer I wanted. He did not want the case, but knew of this guy who might. Try the same thing, or maybe there is a local legal school or Bar exam school that might have listings of new lawyers ready for a slam dunk case. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
Thanks Brad, I'll have to look for somebody in that county who will work on that kind of basis. John Nasta -Original Message- What you need to do is find a young lawyer who just passed the Bar exam. They are hungry for cases (and future referrals) and are more willing to take cases that might only net then a few thousand dollars like yours. Typical deals are 25%-33% of a settlement pre-trial, and 40%-50% once a trial has started, all after taking out expenses. I had a small deal once with a deal similar to the above terms, and the lawyer was young. He gave me very close to my 30% even after expenses. He could have taken far more, but since the settlement was only a few thousand dollars he ate much of the costs in his fee to make me happy. The way I found this guy was to talk to the lawyer I wanted. He did not want the case, but knew of this guy who might. Try the same thing, or maybe there is a local legal school or Bar exam school that might have listings of new lawyers ready for a slam dunk case. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] tire width
Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] raised white letter tires
I think it depends heavily on the kind of wheels you have. Both my cars have RWLs-the Chevelle has Rally rims and my Camino has 80s Z-28 rims and they both look fine (IMO) with RWLs. However, if I had something like Centerlines, I'd definitely go blackwall. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:57 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] raised white letter tires What's the consensus on raised white letter tires for my 69 El Camino? Hokey? Cool looking? I'm wondering if I should go for RWLs or just blackwalls. Thanks for any opinions, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] tire width
I don't know the old school tire sizes, but for 195-70-14, the 70 in the modern tire size has nothing to do with width. For your example, 195-75-14 195 = section width, in millimeters. This is really the width designation. A 205 is wider than 195, but narrower than a 215. 75 = section height. This is the height of the sidewall, expressed as a percentage of the section width. In this case, our section height is 75% of our width, 195. (which computes to 195 x .75 = 146.5mm section height) 14 = Rim Diameter. Actually, the sizes are usually published as such: P195/75HR14 P= Passenger car H = Speed rating. There are 5 or 6 speed ratings. I believe H is good for up to 112 MPH or something like that. Some of the ratings are H S, V Z. Z-rated, the highest, are rated for over 150 MPH. R = Radial construction Going from a 195-75-14 to a 195-70-14 will NOT result in a wider tire, just one with a slightly shorter sidewall (and therefore slightly smaller overall diameter). To get a wider tire, move up to a 205, 215, or 225. You'll also probably end up with a 65 or 60-series tire to keep the overall diameter from getting too tall. It's not the most intuitive system in the world,. There are lots of tirw size calculators on the net which will let you plug-in a tire size and spit out an overall height in inches. When trying to come up with nearly-stock diameter tires for my '72 Camino, I ended up using 235-60-15 tires. Hope this helps.. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:12 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] tire width Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] raised white letter tires
My favorite tires have always been the old Eagle STs (goodyear), as far as looks go anyway. If you like the RWL, then go for it. I think they look ok, depending on the rest of the car. Quoting John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What's the consensus on raised white letter tires for my 69 El Camino? Hokey? Cool looking? I'm wondering if I should go for RWLs or just blackwalls. Thanks for any opinions, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width
Oh man, aren't those really small? I used to run 225/70 15s, and they fill the wheel well nicely. I tried on 3 sets for my front tires before I found the right size. I can get the size to you tonight if you want? They are 205/70 15s ( I think). I wanted a skinnier wheel, but still need to fill up the wheel well. Quoting John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] tire width
I guess I'm all whacked out. It used to be (I think) that 70s were wider than your run-of the-mill 75s or 78s, and 60s were wider than that. No? Now I'm lost. So, what tire size do I want anyway? John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Studly Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] tire width I don't know the old school tire sizes, but for 195-70-14, the 70 in the modern tire size has nothing to do with width. For your example, 195-75-14 195 = section width, in millimeters. This is really the width designation. A 205 is wider than 195, but narrower than a 215. 75 = section height. This is the height of the sidewall, expressed as a percentage of the section width. In this case, our section height is 75% of our width, 195. (which computes to 195 x .75 = 146.5mm section height) 14 = Rim Diameter. Actually, the sizes are usually published as such: P195/75HR14 P= Passenger car H = Speed rating. There are 5 or 6 speed ratings. I believe H is good for up to 112 MPH or something like that. Some of the ratings are H S, V Z. Z-rated, the highest, are rated for over 150 MPH. R = Radial construction Going from a 195-75-14 to a 195-70-14 will NOT result in a wider tire, just one with a slightly shorter sidewall (and therefore slightly smaller overall diameter). To get a wider tire, move up to a 205, 215, or 225. You'll also probably end up with a 65 or 60-series tire to keep the overall diameter from getting too tall. It's not the most intuitive system in the world,. There are lots of tirw size calculators on the net which will let you plug-in a tire size and spit out an overall height in inches. When trying to come up with nearly-stock diameter tires for my '72 Camino, I ended up using 235-60-15 tires. Hope this helps.. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:12 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] tire width Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width
215 70 14 is a good size to run with if you want to keep the currect rims. 235 60 14 will fill it out a little more but you will need a at least a 7 wide rim. I personally would dump the 14's and upgrade to a 15 x 7 inch rim all around. Now depending on what you want (all 4 tires the same, or 1 size on the front, 1 on the back for a slightly raked look) is up to you. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] tire width
Thanks Tom. I want to keep the same size all around. I currently have aftermarket aluminum slot wheels on it and right now the plan is to keep them as long as they clean up ok. I guess I should see how the rims turn out before ordering the tires. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width 215 70 14 is a good size to run with if you want to keep the currect rims. 235 60 14 will fill it out a little more but you will need a at least a 7 wide rim. I personally would dump the 14's and upgrade to a 15 x 7 inch rim all around. Now depending on what you want (all 4 tires the same, or 1 size on the front, 1 on the back for a slightly raked look) is up to you. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires.
Absolutely it looked cool! That's why we did it... Didn't we? JDHall - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:08 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Yeah! Everything Clint said plus ripping up the sidewalls because they still rubbed the fender lip. But it sure looked cool 35 years ago, eh? LOL! Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Back in the old days,Chad,we jacked up our cars with air shocks and silly extended shackles because we couldn't get wheels with the correct backspacing to make larger tires fit inside the wheelwells,where they belong. Jacked-up rear ends look dumb,handle like crap,and cause wheelhop like crazy. Sorry for being so blunt. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Chad P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] my dad told me that all of his cars, he used to airshock the back up and put some L-60's in the back. said they were like 11 inches wide. They were cool, and I always wondered why nobody does that nowadays. they look neat, makes it look muscular. my dad said that the front tires used to wear off quicker than the back, but since he did burnouts every once in a while, the back tires used to match up with the front, lol. bye. Chad - Original Message - From: Richard M. Pruett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Mark, Since no one answered your post, I will try to shed some light. I am old enough to remember bias ply tires and how they rode. In fact, I use to sell tires when the new radials were first coming out; I was a very young man! As I remember, bias ply tires were rough riding and did not give you the feel of the road that the radials do today. You will probably forfeit about 2/3 to 1/2 of the traction of a radial. If you had nylon cords, they would develop a flat spot after sitting for a while, say overnite, and bump for a while until they warmed up. The poly-glas retro tires you are referring to means they have polyester cords and fiberglass belts. Decent ride for the time but not the ride a radial will give you. Steel belts were available as well if you wanted to feel as though you were driving a half-track. They will not corner as well and will hydroplane much easier as you will have less traction, less of a footprint, on the road. One good thing about bias-ply tires, if you are into this, is that they will grow when you spin them. In other words, get a larger diameter. Drag racers use bias-ply tires because they grow and they have a greater diameter tire; with each turn of the tire, they will go further. I suspect you are putting Poly-glas tires on to be era or period correct and that case, the G-60 or 8.25-15 is what we used to sell to the guys during those days. The F was a 7.95. Hope this helps. Rich, The young teenager of the 60's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Weber Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Any comments on the retro bias ply tires that Good Year and Firestone make? I am of the age where everything I have owned has had radials. I am curious about the traction of the bias ply vs. the radial. I expect the ride to be a little rougher, smoother ride is a benefit of radials. I ordered Good Year Poly Glas F60's for my Chevelle, my build sheet had the code for 15 F60. Mark 71 SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width
John this is a link to a site that you can put different size tires/rims together and see the difference. Just something to look at. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] tire width I guess I'm all whacked out. It used to be (I think) that 70s were wider than your run-of the-mill 75s or 78s, and 60s were wider than that. No? Now I'm lost. So, what tire size do I want anyway? John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Studly Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] tire width I don't know the old school tire sizes, but for 195-70-14, the 70 in the modern tire size has nothing to do with width. For your example, 195-75-14 195 = section width, in millimeters. This is really the width designation. A 205 is wider than 195, but narrower than a 215. 75 = section height. This is the height of the sidewall, expressed as a percentage of the section width. In this case, our section height is 75% of our width, 195. (which computes to 195 x .75 = 146.5mm section height) 14 = Rim Diameter. Actually, the sizes are usually published as such: P195/75HR14 P= Passenger car H = Speed rating. There are 5 or 6 speed ratings. I believe H is good for up to 112 MPH or something like that. Some of the ratings are H S, V Z. Z-rated, the highest, are rated for over 150 MPH. R = Radial construction Going from a 195-75-14 to a 195-70-14 will NOT result in a wider tire, just one with a slightly shorter sidewall (and therefore slightly smaller overall diameter). To get a wider tire, move up to a 205, 215, or 225. You'll also probably end up with a 65 or 60-series tire to keep the overall diameter from getting too tall. It's not the most intuitive system in the world,. There are lots of tirw size calculators on the net which will let you plug-in a tire size and spit out an overall height in inches. When trying to come up with nearly-stock diameter tires for my '72 Camino, I ended up using 235-60-15 tires. Hope this helps.. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:12 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] tire width Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.498 / Virus Database: 297 - Release Date: 7/8/03 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
I remember saying something a while back about Ron using newspaper on the windows when he was painting... and how that just didn't seem right... oh well... Dan McIntosh Pavement Scraping 1964 Impala SS http://www.alloldchevy.com - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures Oddly enough, Ron wrote me saying that he has been getting emails about my car, and that most of them are favorable, and that when people see the pictures they see that he did a good job. That's why I decided to post just a few of the pictures that show the real story. I am not going to sue Ron because he lives five and a half hours from me and I can't have my time tied up running back and forth to court. The defendant gets 2 chances to appear before there is a default, so he can basically force me to go out there the first time for nothing. Also, there's a big difference between winning a judgment and getting paid. Maybe I could put a lien on his house but I couldn't force him to sell it. Right now I would like to get my sway bar picked up, and even that seems to be too much to ask for. I sent 3 separate emails last week asking when I could have my sway bar picked up, and never got a straight answer. The most ironic thing to me about that highest quality work for the lowest possible price b.s. is that Ron will never, ever even estimate how much a job will cost. Then he tells you that the reason it came out bad was because you didn't spend enough money. Well, I spent the amount that he asked for. Was I supposed to send more than that? The bottom line is that he did a crappy job for a lot of money. Really the whole car should be done over and I'm assuming that the brand new quarter panel I bought is likely to end up in the garbage along with Ron's shabby floorboard patches, and the dust from the paint job that will have to come off. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John W. Lonadier, Jr. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures John, I feel for you about the raw deal that the professional gave you. I noticed that you included a link to the chop, I mean shop that did the butchering, er work on your elky. Members of this list should all email him about how crappy of a job that he did on your elky and inform him that we will do all in our power through the internet to inform people about what kind of work this man does. It might even help you out with him offering to give a little of your hard earned money back along with the parts sent back to you that he has. Just my .02. How does the rest of the list feel? John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:46 PM To: Olds Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures There are some new pics at: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/ You can have a laugh at the one on top, and then scroll down to the ones that show more serious damage. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top
THANKS again Chuck, any pics of these pieces?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] raised white letter tires
John I've done bothblack or raised letters. I think the trend today is blackwall. BUT, your 69 would probably look good with raised letters. Do you have a friend with raised letters so you could "try" one side to see if you really do like it? If I ever get my LS6 back on the road, I planned on two sets of tires..originals ( if I can find them) for show, and probably whatever is the newest tire around for cruzin... Bill C
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
I've only had the occasion to put a lien on one item (a car in fact) in my lifetime. The client refused to pay the bill for agreed to work at an agreed price. After giving him sufficient time to raise the money, I put a lien on the car. He WAS forced to sell the car or give it up. I could sell the car (which I eventually did) for what was owed (the lien amount) and if it sold for more than that amount, he would get the rest. As it turned out, the car worth (read sellable) about what he owed against it. I got my money and he lost his car. Unfortunate but better him than me. I think your problem might be construed as a matter of perception. You say shoddy work, he says not. Unless there's an arbitrator to decide, since no description of the quality was given, it would be up to the arbitrator to determine if you got what you paid for. In my case, I had parts receipts, shop receipts and a fair labor cost (hours and rates by the accepted rate manual at the time) so I had proof (if you will) of what was expected and what was done. Either way, a bummer for sure. Dale I am not going to sue Ron because he lives five and a half hours from me and I can't have my time tied up running back and forth to court. The defendant gets 2 chances to appear before there is a default, so he can basically force me to go out there the first time for nothing. Also, there's a big difference between winning a judgment and getting paid. Maybe I could put a lien on his house but I couldn't force him to sell it. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] raised white letter tires
I think it's just personal preference. I like the RWL's, so I always do white out. I think it depends on the total look of the car too. I think it's more of an old school look. I don't think I'd do it if I had 17 wheels and small sidewalls, but with the 255/60/15's and 235/60/15's, I like the white out look. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:57 AM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-List] raised white letter tires What's the consensus on raised white letter tires for my 69 El Camino? Hokey? Cool looking? I'm wondering if I should go for RWLs or just blackwalls. Thanks for any opinions, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires.
Thanks Rich, I am going after the correctness look. I don't care about traction with these tires, I have other wider tires for that. I wont be doing any slalom or road courses. My build sheet has option PM7 - F60x15 w/raise... (mouse damage to the rest of the line). I drive the car around a bit, but not on long trips too often. Because the car is a cool old muscle car, I think I will accept it for what it is (rougher ride maybe). Also, it has a Pete Jackson noisy cut cam drive and flow master mufflers if those don't drive me nuts I think I will be OK with the tires :-) I will let you know what I think in about a month, I have to get the stock rims restored yet. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard M. Pruett Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Mark, Since no one answered your post, I will try to shed some light. I am old enough to remember bias ply tires and how they rode. In fact, I use to sell tires when the new radials were first coming out; I was a very young man! As I remember, bias ply tires were rough riding and did not give you the feel of the road that the radials do today. You will probably forfeit about 2/3 to 1/2 of the traction of a radial. If you had nylon cords, they would develop a flat spot after sitting for a while, say overnite, and bump for a while until they warmed up. The poly-glas retro tires you are referring to means they have polyester cords and fiberglass belts. Decent ride for the time but not the ride a radial will give you. Steel belts were available as well if you wanted to feel as though you were driving a half-track. They will not corner as well and will hydroplane much easier as you will have less traction, less of a footprint, on the road. One good thing about bias-ply tires, if you are into this, is that they will grow when you spin them. In other words, get a larger diameter. Drag racers use bias-ply tires because they grow and they have a greater diameter tire; with each turn of the tire, they will go further. I suspect you are putting Poly-glas tires on to be era or period correct and that case, the G-60 or 8.25-15 is what we used to sell to the guys during those days. The F was a 7.95. Hope this helps. Rich, The young teenager of the 60's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Weber Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Retro tires. Any comments on the retro bias ply tires that Good Year and Firestone make? I am of the age where everything I have owned has had radials. I am curious about the traction of the bias ply vs. the radial. I expect the ride to be a little rougher, smoother ride is a benefit of radials. I ordered Good Year Poly Glas F60's for my Chevelle, my build sheet had the code for 15 F60. Mark 71 SS - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width
John, Put a little meat on your Elky. My 65 has 235/60/14's. I went with BFG radial T/A's. I have put about 12,000 hard miles on them and am highly satisfied. RWL or not is a personal preference. I went with RWL and Iike the look. They are on the old standby, Cragar SS wheels. If I were starting from scratch I would go up to 15 wheels and tires. My disc front brakes are a very close fit with the 14's. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] tire width Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width
I love the way Dale's car looks with the 17's. when I un-lower the Impala, that's the kinda look I'm going to go for! Dan McIntosh Pavement Scraping 1964 Impala SS http://www.lowriderimpala.com - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] tire width John, Put a little meat on your Elky. My 65 has 235/60/14's. I went with BFG radial T/A's. I have put about 12,000 hard miles on them and am highly satisfied. RWL or not is a personal preference. I went with RWL and Iike the look. They are on the old standby, Cragar SS wheels. If I were starting from scratch I would go up to 15 wheels and tires. My disc front brakes are a very close fit with the 14's. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] tire width Also, hwo about some thought on tire width? In the past I used to run with 70s because I liked the slightly fatter look. Any reasons not to? The stock tire size is 195/75-14, so I was thinking about going with 195/70-14s. I need to get these puppies ordered. Thanks, John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top
on 7/8/03 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THANKS again Chuck, any pics of these pieces?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm leaving town early tomorrow morning for the ACES Northern Regional in Niagara Falls, NY. Plan on being back Wednesday of next week. Send me a reminder then and I'll take a few pix of the setup to give you an idea of what the factory setup looks like. Chuck - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] RE: 1969 el camino pictures
John, Sorry to hear about your ordeal. We weld panels on but do not finish bodywork or paint, we are a metal shop. The thing that struck me is the best quality work for the lowest price thing. Anytime it says lowest price that usually means short cuts. He took the short cuts but still charged you the high price. A great job for a fair price is how I like to put it. I far from agree with this Ron guy but I understand how hard it is to bid a job when you can't always see all the damage. Everyone wants a price so I tell them it is an estimate only and, this is the key, I call them if we find anything unexpected and let them come and see it before we fix it and never ever spend the customers money unless he okays it first. To paint your car without fixing the inner wheelwells etc is beyond my comprehension. Maybe I missed this but why did you go so far away to get the work done? Just curious. Not that you don't already know this but even if you were happy with the job nine grand is a little steep. You should always give the customer the benefit of the doubt, I have often knocked some off the price if it came to more than I thought it should have. Making a little less and having a happy customer is way better than making more from an unhappy customer as I suspect Ron is about to find out. Just my 02 cents. Kim Gough 69 SS 502 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] SCS Indy
Is anyone going to Super Chevy in Indy this weekend? We will be there with the 69. Just wondering if we are going to meet anyone on the list. If so stop by and say hi, dark red 69 with 502 emblems with black/grey interior. Kim Gough 69 SS 502 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Dan Carr
He is still lingering around. He posted on TC not too long ago. He made the trip out to Nashville, then up to the MCC show a week later. I gave him a hand putting carpet in his green GMC Sprint in Nashville on that Friday night. Shoot him over an email, I'm sure he will get back to ya. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] SCS Indy
In a message dated 7/8/2003 11:29:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone going to Super Chevy in Indy this weekend? We will be there with the 69. Just wondering if we are going to meet anyone on the list. If so stop by and say hi, dark red 69 with 502 emblems with black/grey interior. Kim Gough 69 SS 502 I was going to but decided to go to the CanAm/ACES Norther Regional instead. Let me know how it is as I will probablly go next year. Tom
