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RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevelle club respect - an open letter to club officers

[396guy]

Title: Message



Chevelle 69,
 
I know that Chuck reads this mail forum often and 
maybe he'll kick in here as I certainly don't speak for Chuck and I don't know 
just where or how far he intends to take ACES.  Is is to be an organization 
with nationwide exposure (like NCOA was in its heyday) or the LGC national 
organization?
 
While I'm not a marketing person by any means, but that's 
where it's at, and I'm sure Chuck has marketing savvy.  If, IF, ACES is a 
means to an end then I think it needs to be promoted more OUTSIDE the regular 
Chevelle circle, much as you suggest.
 
I would (or have dedicated volunteers) make an 
appearance at EVERY car show and cruise in possible for exposure and not just 
ACES/Chevelle events; otherwise you're just preaching to the choir.  I 
realize that Chuck's schedule probably prevents him from doing this on much more 
than a local scale or thorough word-of-mouth, but there just might be enough 
folks out here that would be willing to carry an ACES banner, set up a small 
promotion (and membership drive) table at local and regional shows to increase 
membership.  With the demise of NCOA and its folding into the LGC 
organization, I'd attend every LGC show and recruit members.  Every 
~Goodguys~, ~World of Wheels~, ~Daryl Starbird~ shows and ISCA shows should 
have a booth with a representative.
 
The ~volunteers~ would require a booth setup of some type 
commensurate with the event, membership forms, promotional material, merchandise 
to show/sell, a mission statement, etc. plus above all, an enthusiastic attitude 
to promote ACES in particular and Chevelles in general and a stick-to-it 
outlook.  The ACES rep could even ~donate~ door prizes and/or donate/pick a 
~Chevelle-of-the-show~ award.
 
Aside from two or three ACES and or Chevelle a year, I try 
to make 8-10 local type car shows and a couple of "professional" shows a summer 
season and I'm close enough to a couple of ~Goodguys~ shows to have made them 
this year. 
 
There is a lot of potential out there but, again, it boils 
down to just where Chuck wishes to take ACES since that's our major vehicle to 
promote Chevelles on a national scale.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chevelle 
  69Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:28 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevelle club 
  respect - an open letter to club officers
  Gents,
   
  This is NOT meant to slam anyone, criticize, or cause hurt feelings. My only 
  intentions is to help start brainstorming ideas on how to get a little more 
  respect for our clubs and people from Chevrolet and parts manufacturers 
  and retailers.
   
  Here's the way I see it, and I may be wrong, please correct me if I am. 
  I think that while GM support has dwindled in some ways (increased in others 
  maybe) that part of it could be our own fault. Maybe not directly, but maybe 
  we could be doing more for ourselves to get the respect and recognition that 
  our hobby deserves. I think we would all benefit a lot from an increase in 
  support from GM & manufacturers. While it's great that we have as many 
  parts available as we do .that says something in itself. It says how many 
  of us there are and that there is one heck of a demand. But that demand is not 
  "in your face ..here we are" visible. It's in the form of onsies and twosies 
  phone calls and web orders to "little guys". GM has no way of seeing 
  this!
   
  Chuck has been wonderful at ACES and as our only national club to 
  represent us we need to throw our support behind him even more. While the guy 
  has to be busier than a one armed wallpaper hanger with his good arm 
  tied behind his back taking care of club stuff and his show and 
  all, he can't be expected to do everything. That's where clubs and 
  officers are going to need to help.
   
  While we are a mighty force with just our online numbers, but 
  the amount of Chevelle owners I have talked to at cars shows that have never 
  heard of ACES or local Chevelle clubs, and are not "online" is a majority of the people I have talked 
  to!  We will need the majority of them with us to show the numbers of 
  people we have to GM and others. I am sure local clubs have their ways of 
  recruiting locals and that's probably better in some places than others. While 
  local recruiting by clubs is great it will only get you so far. It won't reach 
  but a small percentage of the people and it's like swinging a bat blindfolded, 
  you'll get some, but it's a small percentage of those that are out 
  there.
   
  So 
  how do we get to the rest? How do we get the respect from showing our numbers 
  in force? How do we help ourselves? We can begin by doing the easy thing 
  first, and that is making sure that all of our online resources a

RE: [Chevelle-List] Throttle Linkage

[396guy]

Rich,
 
There should be a hole in the throttle arm of the carb as 
well, about the overall size of a nut for a 1/4" bolt.  There is a rubber 
~grommet~ that fits in the hole with (normally) a nylon bushing that has a hole 
your throttle rod fits into then the rod is secured with a cotter pin.  The 
ball-stud arrangement is for later cars with a throttle 
cable.
 
I try and salvage them from old 4-bbls whenever possible 
because nobody made them in the aftermarket for a long time.  If you want 
to email me offline, I have a few pics of how it's suppose to 
look.
 
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Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:36 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] Throttle LinkageIn a 
  message dated 10/19/02 12:53:04 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  John, If you need one, I have an extra one in good shape. It's 
yours if you want it. If you have the rod that's all you need.Rich"66 
MalibuACES # 5066Rich.Thanks for the offer, I have the 
  rod . My question is how does the rod adapt to the carb. With carb I got this 
  stud with ball on the end and on the rod there is a indentation for it to fit 
  into. What I probaly need is some type of clip that holds it together and tahs 
  what I can't seem to locate. Don't have a clue what this clip looks like, I 
  did buy a few packs on the HELP rack but none seem to work..This may sound 
  confusing to you but trying my best here to explain 
  thisThanksJohn 

RE: [Chevelle-List] BIG disk brakes

[396guy]

http://www.baer.com makes 13" front and 12" rear discs.  They also offer the
13.5", 14" and 15", 6 piston Alcons. Can't think of any that's bigger.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-chevelle-list@;chevelles.net]On Behalf Of H. Kwakkel
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 3:23 AM
> To: Chevelle List
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] BIG disk brakes
>
>
> A friend of mine has a 78 Caprice station. He want to make a
> hotrod/racecar
> from it. (don't ask me why, but he wants to). so a 4 inch
> topshop, 700hp 454
> blower engine etc. He wants 20 inch rims and is looking for the biggest
> diskbrakes to fit in there. Has anybody an idea what brakes and
> were to get
> them?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Henri
> '66 Malibu 230
> The Netherlands
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RE: [Chevelle-List] car dollies

[396guy]

I towed my son's (then) 69 Camaro on one about a 100 miles 
or so - mostly highway.  Put the front wheels on the dolly, roped the 
steering wheel to the the door, put it in neutral (automatic) and pulled it 
home.  The place you rent the dolly from should supply instructions.  
If not, check out a U-Haul dealer, I know they have a little instruction guide 
for theirs.  Also, make sure your 64 Impala will fit on the dolly.  
U-Haul had a hard time finding one wide enough for the ~older~ car. 
:*)
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:00 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] car dolliesI have towed a few cars with dollies.  I always put 
  them in Neutral and put the front wheels up on the dollie, never had any 
  problems.Tom 

RE: [Chevelle-List] Water pump hose size for BBC

[396guy]

Kent,

The rep from Coolflex swears up and down it's 2" as well.  I probably have
the exception to the rule but...I just replaced my radiator with an aluminum
unit.  The current lower hose is a flex hose.  Thinking I'd have to get a
longer one I didn't pay attention to which end went where when I removed it.
Testing for length after the installation I found it would still work.  Then
I thought, did I just get lucky with the two ends so I turned the hose
around and it still fit.  I then measured the O.D. of the lower hose outlet
on the water pump and it matched the input on the radiator.  Both will take
the 1 3/4" hose size.  Granted the pump is nearly 15 years old and I
purchased it from Summit simply as a chrome replacement, but it's apparently
not the same as other big block water pumps.  Looks like something I'll have
to remember if/when the pump needs replacement - get a new hose at the same
time :)

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Water pump hose size for BBC
>
>
> Dale,
>
>   Just checked my engine.  It measures 2" at the waterpump
> outlet.  This is
> an aluminum GM "short" pump that is included with the ZZ502/502
> kit.  Also,
> the reproduction radiator hoses that I plan to install have the
> 2" id at the
> waterpump and 1 3/4" at the lower radiator.   Do not have any other
> waterpumps to check the measurement.
>
>
>   Just as a suggestion - "...Have you changed the batteries in your tape
> measure lately ?..." :)
>
> Kent
> '68 Malibu ZZ502/502
> ACES #5102
>
>
> This may sound like a silly question, but what is the standard hose size
> (I.D.) for a BBC water pump?  A rep from Cool Flex said that
> every big block
> (not just Chevy) the he's seen has a 2" I.D. hose outlet.  On their site,
> when ordering a lower hose kit and checking the Big Block box, they come
> back with a 1 3/4" on one end and a 2" reducer on the other.  I just
> replaced the radiator in my 67 big block car and double checked the lower
> hose and it's 1 3/4" on both ends.  I'm using a Summit (long) water pump
> that I've had for close to 15 years now...have they changed or do
> I have an
> odd pump?
>
> Dale McIntosh
> ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> 67 SS/67 Elky
> http://www.dalesplace.com
> http://www.team67.com
> http://www.midwestchevelles.com
>
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Vent window handle for 67 Elky too

[396guy]

Thanks John,

That's kind of what I thought.  I have a 67 SS as well as the 67 Elky and
the vent handles don't look the same - the SS style looks larger.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Nasta
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Vent window handle for 67 Elky too
>
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> In a nutshell, the CHV4350 fit all the GM A-body cars for 1966 - 1967
> *except* El Camino (and possibly station wagon and/or 2dr sedan,
> but I have
> no evidence to support that). The PP00186/87 fit the El Camino from 1964 -
> 1967, and all the other GM A-body coupes for 1964 - 1965. So, for some
> reason the handles changed in 66 on the coupe, but not on the El Camino.
>
> John Nasta
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> John,
>
> I think I deleted a message on this thread - are there different mounting
> styles between SS and non-SS or Malibu and Elky vent windows?  I
> need a pair
> for my 67 Elky as well.  Is the CHV4350 (pair) just the left (PP00186) and
> right (PP00187) sides combined?  Doesn't appear to be since the pair are
> listed to fit only 66-67 (are these the SS handles?) where the individual
> units fit 64-67 (non-SS?)
>
> Dale McIntosh
> ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> 67 SS/67 Elky
> http://www.dalesplace.com
> http://www.team67.com
> http://www.midwestchevelles.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Nasta
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 12:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Parts needed, vent window handle PS 66 Elky
> >
> >
> > We sell them too (http://oldcarnetwork.com). Just search for Vent Window
> > Lock, or visit the Door Handles & Hinges page.
> >
> > You'll see that there are three of them. For Chevelle & El Camino
> > there are
> > two (left & right side sold separately - these are the ones you
> need) that
> > fit 64-67 El Camino and the same ones also fit 1964-65 Chevelle (as Herb
> > pointed out). There is another that fits 66-67 Chevelle (sold in pairs).
> >
> > John Nasta
> > Old Car Network
> > http://oldcarnetwork.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > At 09:09 AM 09/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Dave,
> > >most aftermarket companys carry these, Ausleys has
> > >them, part #VWH0023 64-67 El Camino. $32.00 a pair.
> > >web address is  http://www.chevelle.com  you can order
> > >online, phone number is 1-336-228-6701 Year-One has
> > >them they are not hard to come by.
> > >
> > >
> > >Rocky Hill
> > >My66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss
> >
>
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[Chevelle-List] Water pump hose size for BBC

[396guy]

This may sound like a silly question, but what is the standard hose size
(I.D.) for a BBC water pump?  A rep from Cool Flex said that every big block
(not just Chevy) the he's seen has a 2" I.D. hose outlet.  On their site,
when ordering a lower hose kit and checking the Big Block box, they come
back with a 1 3/4" on one end and a 2" reducer on the other.  I just
replaced the radiator in my 67 big block car and double checked the lower
hose and it's 1 3/4" on both ends.  I'm using a Summit (long) water pump
that I've had for close to 15 years now...have they changed or do I have an
odd pump?

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


<>

[Chevelle-List] Vent window handle for 67 Elky too

[396guy]

John,

I think I deleted a message on this thread - are there different mounting
styles between SS and non-SS or Malibu and Elky vent windows?  I need a pair
for my 67 Elky as well.  Is the CHV4350 (pair) just the left (PP00186) and
right (PP00187) sides combined?  Doesn't appear to be since the pair are
listed to fit only 66-67 (are these the SS handles?) where the individual
units fit 64-67 (non-SS?)

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Nasta
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 12:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Parts needed, vent window handle PS 66 Elky
>
>
> We sell them too (http://oldcarnetwork.com). Just search for Vent Window
> Lock, or visit the Door Handles & Hinges page.
>
> You'll see that there are three of them. For Chevelle & El Camino
> there are
> two (left & right side sold separately - these are the ones you need) that
> fit 64-67 El Camino and the same ones also fit 1964-65 Chevelle (as Herb
> pointed out). There is another that fits 66-67 Chevelle (sold in pairs).
>
> John Nasta
> Old Car Network
> http://oldcarnetwork.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> At 09:09 AM 09/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Dave,
> >most aftermarket companys carry these, Ausleys has
> >them, part #VWH0023 64-67 El Camino. $32.00 a pair.
> >web address is  http://www.chevelle.com  you can order
> >online, phone number is 1-336-228-6701 Year-One has
> >them they are not hard to come by.
> >
> >
> >Rocky Hill
> >My66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss
>


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Disc Brake swap

[396guy]

Not without a lot of work.  Stick with 69-72 A-body 
GM.
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dwight 
  FultonSent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:49 AMTo: 
  chevelleSubject: [Chevelle-List] Disc Brake 
  swap
  I think I know the answer to this but, you never know. I want to convert 
  my 72 Elky to Ft disc brakes & need to know if the ft end parts (spindles 
  etc.) from a 79 Elky well work?
   
  Anybody know?
   
  Dwight
  
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Correct Engine Diagram...

[396guy]

Here's one of a 67 L79 I just took at the Tulsa MCR 
show.  http://www.midwestchevelles.com/shows/mw2002/66-67/p001398.jpg.  
I also have some of big blocks at http://www.team67.com/information/oddities.htm.  
There was some discussion at TC earlier this month about some of the differences 
I noticed in the big block cars.
 
Hope they help some
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad 
  P.Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:18 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Correct Engine 
  Diagram...
  Hi, Does anyone here have the CORRECT engine 
  look?  I mean, correct Air Filter, engine block color, wires are in right 
  place, valve covers are correct.  I would, if you could, like a diagram 
  of a 67 Chevelle Engine (does not have the be a diagram, just a good photo of 
  the engine so I can see what a completely correct engine looks like) and I 
  would like see a 1970 Chevelle Engine.  I look on ebay and such, and I 
  can't tell if that engine looks correct or not.  Thank you.  Just 
  send pictures or tell me your website (only if it has the engine pictures - 
  correct that is) to my private email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
  Thank you.
  Chad

[Chevelle-List] GR8PMKN

[396guy]

Well Chad, the web site pretty much shows the modifications 
that are visible.  I've added Vintage Air and I have an aluminum radiator 
sitting in the garage that arrived yesterday that I'm planning on installing 
this weekend.  I guess you could say it gets more modified all the time 
.  I do have to find a stopping point however and get working on 
the Elky.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad 
  P.Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:38 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Josh do you 
  have a girlfriend named Wanda? .
  I see.  Well, I know you go to ACES - right, 
  I saw pictures of your chevelle at the 1999 - 2002 aces chevelle show.  I 
  hope to be there next year!  I love your chevelle, how modified is 
  it???  There is something about it that looks perfect - the stance, 
  color, motor.  
          
                  
                  
                  
                  
          Chad
   

[Chevelle-List] Email settings in AOL

[396guy]

Wouldn't have any idea about AOL settings.  After 
taking almost 6 months to stop charging me for my "trial subscription" and 
wiping out my PC a few years ago, I don't use 'em.
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  .Dale: do you have any idea where to look for this? I've been 
  answering posts for a long time and no one ever told me. tell me where and I 
  will fix it. I have looked and can't seem to find it. 
  Larry 
  (z) 

RE: [Chevelle-List] Josh do you have a girlfriend named Wanda? .

[396guy]

Too far for me Chad.  I'm in southern Oklahoma and 
have a hard enough time getting off for the two/three Chevelles shows a 
year.  I am taking a couple more weekends this year however for Good-guys 
in Texas and Kansas in October.
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  have a girlfriend named Wanda? .
  I totally agree.  Sometimes I don't have a 
  darn clue what he is replying to!  lol.  Dale - do you go to 
  carlisle show?
    Chad
  
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Z16CHEVELLEGUY - Your messages never have anything on 
them except your reply.  Sometimes I can't even figure out what you are 
replying to. ?  AOL probably has an option to NOT include the message 
text with a reply and you probably have that selected.
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[Chevelle-List] Include Msg in Reply

[396guy]

There are so many versions of Outlook Express, but try under Tools >
Options.  There should be an option somewhere in there what to do when
replying to a message and "...including original message..." is probably NOT
selected.  On Outlook 2000 it's under Tools > Options > Email Options - On
replies and forwards; then you select from a drop down box what to do with
the original message.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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>
>
> I dunno Dale,
> When I used AOL, I had those instructions on the bottom of every
> E-mail from
> the list. Now that I'm using Outlook Express, I don't see
> them.Wonder what's up with that??
> Dan McIntosh
> 65 Malibu
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:47 PM
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>
> > Well, let's hope the mission gets accomplished.  I guess he/she
> can't read
> > the bottom of most posts (like this one) and follow instructions.
> >
> > Dale McIntosh
> > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> > 67 SS/67 Elky
> > http://www.dalesplace.com
> > http://www.team67.com
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Josh do you have a girlfriend named Wanda? .

[396guy]

Z16CHEVELLEGUY - Your messages never have anything on them 
except your reply.  Sometimes I can't even figure out what you are replying 
to. ?  AOL probably has an option to NOT include the message text with a 
reply and you probably have that selected.
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Keeping my numbers matching spun bearing block in the car?

[396guy]

.030 over is a pretty standard rebuild and it takes nothing away from being
a "stock" engine.  Now, aluminum intake, headers, hot ignition, chrome
accessories...yes.  A standard rebuild with a stock appearing top end is
still stock IMO.  Either way, don't trash the engine.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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> not really, beisides it's already 30 over so it's neeither stock
> nor original
> anyways.
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Body/Frame Rotisserie

[396guy]

Well, let's hope the mission gets accomplished.  I guess he/she can't read
the bottom of most posts (like this one) and follow instructions.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Keeping my numbers matching spun bearing block in the car?

[396guy]

Unless you can find another date coded block with the 
correct suffix and you want to keep it ~numbers matching~, you'll have to 
rebuild the current engine.  I'd redo the whole thing and tank the block 
and heads to remove any bearing particles, surely they've contaminated the 
entire engine.  (Do they still tank blocks and heads anymore?  Maybe 
sonic cleaning is the preferred method now?)  Crank kits are readily 
available in .010/.010 up to .030/.030 if yours can't be salvaged.  I'd 
also think seriously about replacing the rods (or at least having them checked 
for size) on those bearings that let go.  Have the shop check the cam and 
lifter surfaces very carefully as well.
 
Losing a bearing doesn't always come with dropping oil 
pressure.  if you have a light it probably doesn't come on 'till the 8-10 
lb range anyway.
 
Another option probably in the same price range would be a 
350/330hp crate engine and keep your original if the car is a 
driver.
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  R.Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:40 PMTo: 
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  numbers matching spun bearing block in the car?
  Hey guys, it's been a few years but I'm back on 
  the list for a little bit :) (Hi to AZJimmy if he's still around... He still 
  has those cruise-master cruise control units we were trying to figure out.. 
  heheh).. 
   
  Anyway, I've got a '71 Chevelle SS with the #'s 
  matching CJD code motor and years ago I had it rebuilt... Nothing 
  extraordinary, and in fact I have no idea on some of the specs.. The only 
  thing I can remember is they supposedly used Keith Black HyperEutectics.. But, 
  regardless, aside from painting it FORD BLUE (YECH!!), the also apparently 
  didn't do the best job in installing the bearings.. See, I'm cruising down the 
  highway a few months ago turning about 4000rpm (3.31's, P235/60/15's on stock 
  SS rims, and a TH-350 with a shift kit and a stock converter) and it gets this 
  rattling/knocking noise.. I pulled it over immediately and got it towed 
  home.. At first I thought it might have been the battery's 
  negative motor-ground came off (mostly frying my fusible link) and was 
  rattling against the fan.. No such luck-- I dropped the pan a little and 
  fished out some chunks of metal.. Yeah-- I think its a bearing.. Strangely, I 
  didn't have an oil light go on.. So I hope that means I'm in the clear as 
  far as major components go (block, heads, etc).. Amyway, do I keep this motor 
  in the car (it's already 30 over) or stick it on a stand and install a freshly 
  rebuilt 350? I was thinking about canibalizing the block for the pistons 
  but I was advised to just build another motor... I intend on keeping the 
  numbers matching block period, but I just figure I'd like to know if its 
  wise to do a bearing job on it or play it safe and drop in another 
  rebuild...
   
  Moneywise they're both going to run similar 
  because I intend on tearing down my original block and tanking it... I WILL 
  have it painted the right color whether or not it goes back in the car right 
  now..
   
  Anyway, any advice is greatly appreciated :) 
  
  Raj
  71 Chevelle Super Sport (L48 350ci, TH-350, 12-bolt 3.31 posi, factory 
  AM/FM, non-working A/C)
  67 Plymouth Barracuda Coupe (360ci in the works, A-904, 8-1/4 3.23 open, 
  daily driven krylon painted handles-like-on-rails machine).. heheh
   

RE: [Chevelle-List] looking for engine detail pictures '68 L89 Chevelle

[396guy]

Kent,
 
Unfortunately, Mr. Macy didn't show up at Tulsa this year 
and the pickings of '68s was pretty slim.  I'll keep an eye out though for 
his car at future shows and try to get some pictures.
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent 
  LewisSent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:53 AMTo: 
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  engine detail pictures '68 L89 Chevelle
  Dale,
   
    I hope you did not think I was 
  being disrespectful.  Sometimes it is difficult to convey the 
  "tone" of the message by writing.  Should have taken more time 
  to carefully choose my words.  Working midnights this week, not much 
  sleep. :(
   
  As for the 
  Chevelle, ANY photos will be 
  appreciated.   Please disregard the tach wire.   
  Sorry for the confusion.  (DARN midnights !!!)  
  
   
  If you do see Mr. Macy ask him if he plans to attend next 
  years Chevellebration, I would make a trip to see the car...even if 
  ours isn't done.
   
  Kent
  '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)
  ACES #5102
   
  
  Kent,
   
  Didn't mean it that way. :*)  The only time I've 
  ever chastised anyone was using a shot of John Griffis '71 on eBay trying 
  to sell theirs.  Instead of taking their own pictures, they said, "It 
  looks like this...(sic)"
   
  If Mr. Macy brings the car I'll see what I can do about 
  some engine shots.  Don't know if he'll let me trace the tach wire or 
  not...
   

RE: [Chevelle-List] Need engine identification help

[396guy]

Chilton's shows the HO to be from either a 69 Corvette 327/T.H. or 65/66/67
Corvette with Powerglide.HO doesn't show up on big cars, Chevelles,
Camaros, or Chevy II's.  If it is HD, it could be a 350 from a 69 big car
w/M.T. or a 66/67 Corvette with short water pump without exhaust emission.

Best to get a casting number from the block to determine for sure the cubic
inches.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:18 PM
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> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Need engine identification help
>
>
> I have a 1970 Malibu.  I know the car does not have the original
> engine, but I don't know what it is.  The code from the
> front of the block is:
>
> T0912H0
>
> >From the research I've been able to do this engine was made in
> Tonawanda on September 19th, and it's either a 1965
> Corvette (327, 300HP) engine *or* a 1969 'B' body 350.
>
> I'm told that checking the block casting date at the rear of the
> engine will decide the 327/350 issue.  My question
> is... is there a shortcut to this?  For instance, do we know that
> Corvette engines were *never* built in Tonawanda?  The
> block casting date looks like it will be hard to read.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max?

[396guy]

 
Sounds like that's the only thing "right" on the 
car.
Dale

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  P.Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:44 PMTo: 
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  the max?
  Also I would like to know, Can you just put a SS 
  Grille on a malibu?  or does there need to be some mods?  
  thanks.  This 1968 Chevelle SS clone - the only thing wrong is that it 
  has a malibu grille.  
   

RE: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???

[396guy]

There are no known numbers of cars painted a particular color, just as there
aren't numbers on how many bench seat, red, 4-speed cars came with a vinyl
top and AM/FM radio.  I don't mean to be sarcastic here, but GM claims all
records were lost.  The only real numbers we do know are how many of a
certain model series were built such as 180,401 Malibu V-8 coupes and 55,309
1968 Super Sport coupes (see
http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/information/production_numbers.htm)

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad P.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many
> made???
>
>
> beautiful car man!!  I love it!  '67's are just one of my most
> favorites!!!
> I love the 1970, but the more I look at the boxier style (1966 &
> 1967), The
> more I like them.  :-)  I can find all the paint codes, but just
> cannot find
> out how many were made.  How come it seems like no one wants to answer
> anyone's questions anymore!?  The last 2 or 3 question's I've had, in a
> period of a couple of weeks, have been answered by only 1 or 2
> guys, instead
> of the usual 5 - 10.  :-(
>
> Chad
>
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> From: "LXVIISS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???
>
>
> > Chad,
> >
> > I can't answer your question with statistics, but I believe
> that it was a
> > pretty rare color. In 1967, it was called Emerald Turquoise with paint
> code
> > KK. I have a 1967 SS with that color and haven't seen another
> one yet. I'm
> > sure they're out there, though. I remember the color well from '50s and
> '60s
> > cars - I knew someone with a '62 Impala SS in that color - a beautiful
> car.
> > See mine at http://home.att.net/~lxviiss/LXVIISS.htm
> >
> > Mike
> >
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> > From: Chad P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:43 PM
> > Subject: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???
> >
> >
> > > How many 1968 Chevelles were made with this paint code???
> The letter is
> I
> > > think - K.
> > > Thank you, We (my dad and I) had the oppuntornity to go see a 1968
> > chevelle
> > > SS clone about 2 minutes away from here, and the original color is
> Tripoli
> > > Turquoise.  Tell me what you think, The paint job (The color is
> burgundy)
> > is
> > > base coat clear coat, VERY GOOD quality, it has a 1966 Chevelle SS 396
> BBC
> > > in it, and it has one of those racing shifters, you know like the B&M
> > > Shifter, The interior is spotless.  The only flaw is that the
> passenger
> > side
> > > door does not open, and the owner is going to fix it before it gets
> sold.
> > I
> > > feel that it is worth it, and plus, do you know how hard it
> is to find a
> > car
> > > like this 2 minutes away from my house, lol?  He is asking
> 11.5.  I feel
> > it
> > > is worth it, I figure a malibu is 9 grand, a 396 bbc is
> 2,500, with the
> > > mods, its worth 3500 (it does 13 flat in quarter mile).  SS Embalms
> worth
> > > 200.  Shifter is ???--I'm guessing it is 750 dollars?  When you add it
> all
> > > up, it sounds very reasonable.  Wish us luck!  :-)
> > >
> > > Chad
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RE: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???

[396guy]

Chad,

I believe this is Tripoli Turquoise in 68 -
http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle_shows/aces2002/68-69/p001206.jpg -
one of my favorite colors beside orange.

Your prices are probably pretty close except the shifter.  B&M shifters run
in the $150-$175 range.  For $11.5K, I'd check the mechanicals like brakes,
suspension, engine condition (such as a compression check, will it run on
unleaded fuel, etc.) You don't mention the transmission type, TH350 or TH400
maybe?

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad P.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise - how many made???
>
>
> How many 1968 Chevelles were made with this paint code???  The letter is I
> think - K.
> Thank you, We (my dad and I) had the oppuntornity to go see a
> 1968 chevelle
> SS clone about 2 minutes away from here, and the original color is Tripoli
> Turquoise.  Tell me what you think, The paint job (The color is
> burgundy) is
> base coat clear coat, VERY GOOD quality, it has a 1966 Chevelle SS 396 BBC
> in it, and it has one of those racing shifters, you know like the B&M
> Shifter, The interior is spotless.  The only flaw is that the
> passenger side
> door does not open, and the owner is going to fix it before it
> gets sold.  I
> feel that it is worth it, and plus, do you know how hard it is to
> find a car
> like this 2 minutes away from my house, lol?  He is asking 11.5.
> I feel it
> is worth it, I figure a malibu is 9 grand, a 396 bbc is 2,500, with the
> mods, its worth 3500 (it does 13 flat in quarter mile).  SS Embalms worth
> 200.  Shifter is ???--I'm guessing it is 750 dollars?  When you add it all
> up, it sounds very reasonable.  Wish us luck!  :-)
>
> Chad
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RE: [Chevelle-List] advice on exhaust

[396guy]

The American Thunder kit (from headers on back) is $286 for rear exit
(FLO-17119) and $315 side exit (FLO-17120) from Summit but it has 30
series - at least mine did.  Some shops tend to charge a bit more labor if
you bring your own pieces since they're not making a profit on the parts.
Except for mating the headers to the front pipe though, you can install the
rest of it yourself.  I did it using a small piece of pipe to slip over the
header reducer and front header pipe, clamped them temporarily till I drove
to a muffler shop and had them welded.  The hardest parts were getting the
old exhaust off and getting the "H" pipe cut and installed correctly laying
on my back.

If I had to do again (which I may on my 67 Elky soon), I'd let the shop do
it.  Back is getting too bad to be laying on the concrete for a few hours.
:*)

I have a short .wav file of them at
http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/more_pics/p852.wav

Dale McIntosh
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> Subject: [Chevelle-List] advice on exhaust
>
>
> Well, before I start calling around, I'd like to hear some expeirence from
> people who have done this already.
>
> First, what's a reasonable price range for 2.5" dual exhaust with
> 40 series
> Flowmaster's?  I'm thinking around $300.  Am I dreaming?  Is this too
> optimistic?
>
> Is it better to buy a kit and take it to the muffler shop to be
> installed or
> should I buy everything through the shop?
>
> Is there anything I should ask or be aware of when calling around?  Thanks
> for any help!  One more thing.. can anyone recommend a muffler shop in
> Phoenix?
>
> Rodney.
> 71 Chevelle
> El Mirage, AZ
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] looking for engine detail pictures '68 L89 Chevelle

[396guy]

Kent,
 
Didn't mean it that way. :*)  The only time I've ever 
chastised anyone was using a shot of John Griffis '71 on eBay trying to 
sell theirs.  Instead of taking their own pictures, they said, "It looks 
like this...(sic)"
 
If Mr. Macy brings the car I'll see what I can do about 
some engine shots.  Don't know if he'll let me trace the tach wire or 
not...
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  LewisSent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:02 PMTo: 
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  engine detail pictures '68 L89 Chevelle
  Dale,
   
    Sorry about "stealing" your 
  photo !!!  I saved it from a message that you sent out back 
  on July, 29th. when we were talking about the Rarest Cars in the 
  USA.  Anyhoo,  I would like to see the 
  "details" of the engine detailing (vacuum hose routings, fuel 
  lines, PS set-up w/remote and ps hoses,heater box hoses, engine ground 
  straps, and if it has a factory tach where does the wire 
  enter/exit the firewall ?  - my assembly manual is 
  unclear).  I realize that sounds like a lot, but that is my Christmas 
  wish list.   Actually, anything you can send me would be 
  greatly appreciated.   Hopefully, he will bring the car to the show. 
  :)
   
  Dale - Thanks for offering to 
  help,
   
  Kent
  '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 
  ACES #5102
   
   
   
    
  Kent,
   
  That's my picture you have linked.  I took it at the 
  Wichita show a couple of years ago.  I'm heading up to Tulsa this weekend 
  for the 15th Annual MCR show and if he brings it, I'll take some engine 
  shots.  Anything in 
particular?

RE: [Chevelle-List] Acid/Chemical Dipping

[396guy]

It was all done by the guy that did the body/paint.  I really don't know
what the breakdown was on that part. Sorry.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Galen and Melissa
> Love
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Dale, what did it cost to get your shell walnut blasted?
>
> Thanks,
> Galen
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "396guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:38 PM
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>
>
> > I've heard negative things about acid dipping - namely it's nigh on
> > impossible to remove the residue so it keeps eating away.  No
> experience,
> > just hearsay.  I had mine blasted with walnut shells and it seem to work
> > fine.
> >
> > Dale McIntosh
> > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> > 67 SS/67 Elky
> > http://www.dalesplace.com
> > http://www.team67.com
> > http://www.midwestchevelles.com
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> > >
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> > > Hi all, I have a 66 Chevelle SS and I am starting the restoration
> > > process. My
> > > question is has anyone ever Acid dipped the shell? If so what was
> > > your take
> > > on the results? and at what point of the process did you add
> > > patch panels if
> > > needed?  Thanks Jeff
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RE: [Chevelle-List] exhaust question

[396guy]

I don't think the Turbo style mufflers will get any deeper, just older and
never sound like Flowmasters.  Check
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/pages33-34.pdf for their mufflers
and/or the American Thunder kit which is the entire exhaust - although you
will have to modify it for stock exhaust as they're designed to
"cut-to-length-fit" headers.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] exhaust question
>
>
> Hi guys,
> I have a '71 Chevelle SS 454 LS-5  that is bone stock with 89,000
> miles on it.  About 300 miles ago (3years ago) I put a new 2 ½"
> walker exhaust with Dynomax super turbos. The car still has the
> original exhaust manifolds on it.
> My question is, will this exhaust get a louder and deeper tone with time?
> Would headers help?  It is too quiet for me, but I dont want glass packs.
> It just doesnt roar like a flowmaster exhaust does.
> any ideas?
>
> thanks for any help
>
> Joe
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Acid/Chemical Dipping

[396guy]

I've heard negative things about acid dipping - namely it's nigh on
impossible to remove the residue so it keeps eating away.  No experience,
just hearsay.  I had mine blasted with walnut shells and it seem to work
fine.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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>
>
> Hi all, I have a 66 Chevelle SS and I am starting the restoration
> process. My
> question is has anyone ever Acid dipped the shell? If so what was
> your take
> on the results? and at what point of the process did you add
> patch panels if
> needed?  Thanks Jeff
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RE: [Chevelle-List] exhaust question

[396guy]

Rodney,

I have a short .wav file of my 67 with the Flowmaster American Thunder
exhaust w/30 series (52533) mufflers.

http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/more_pics/p852.wav

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rodney.
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:49 PM
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>
>
> Do you have a recording? :)   Are your 40's Delta Flows or not?
>
> Rodney.
> 71 Chevelle
> El Mirage, AZ
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> From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 7:33 AM
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>
>
> > I run a Dr. Gas X pipe and Flowmaster 40's and love it. Super
> nice "round"
> > tone, killer idle, but it quiets down at highway speed.
> >
> > Craig E.
> >
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> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:06 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I have a '71 Chevelle SS 454 LS-5  that is bone stock with
> 89,000 miles on
> > it.  About 300 miles ago (3years ago) I put a new 2 ½" walker
> exhaust with
> > Dynomax super turbos. The car still has the original exhaust
> manifolds on
> > it.
> > My question is, will this exhaust get a louder and deeper tone
> with time?
> > Would headers help?  It is too quiet for me, but I dont want
> glass packs.
> > It just doesnt roar like a flowmaster exhaust does.
> > any ideas?
> >
> > thanks for any help
> >
> > Joe
> >
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Bench Seat ???

[396guy]

When you say "split bench" seat, you mean a single bench 
that the backs fold forward or something like a 60/40 split bench seat; actually 
two seats but not buckets.  I don't think Chevelles had a true split bench 
seat, just a normal bench and buckets.
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:10 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [Chevelle-List] Bench Seat ???Morning 
  All...My question is are the split bench seats interchangeable from a 
  67 Pontiac Tempest to a 66 / 67 Chevelle Malibu ? And the the back seats in a 
  67 Chevelle the same as the seats in a 66 Chevelle ?? 
  Thanks...John66 Chevelle MalibuPhila, Pa. 

RE: [Chevelle-List] looking for engine detail pictures '68 L89 Chevelle

[396guy]

Kent,
 
That's my picture you have linked.  I took it at the 
Wichita show a couple of years ago.  I'm heading up to Tulsa this weekend 
for the 15th Annual MCR show and if he brings it, I'll take some engine 
shots.  Anything in particular?
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent 
  LewisSent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:29 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] looking for 
  engine detail pictures '68 L89 Chevelle
  
   
  I'm looking for engine detail shots of the 1968 Chevelle 396 w/aluminum 
  heads, owned by a Bob Macy (?).  Thought maybe someone had attended a 
  show where the car was being displayed.  Anyone have any photos of the 
  engine compartment ?  PLEASE 
  !
   
  here is a link to the car:
   
  http://www.midwestchevelles.com/past_shows/mw2000/p233.jpg
   
  Kent
  '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 
  :)
  ACES 
#5102

RE: [Chevelle-List] Shiftworks 66/67 Chevelle dash gauge conversion set

[396guy]

I don't know of anyone who has yet.  I guess to retain the factory look it
might be alright but I notice they don't include any wiring for the BATT
gauge but maybe it's in the instructions on how to hook it up properly.
Would have been nice if they included copper tubing as per original GM
instead of nylon for $205.  Although you can get a good set of AutoMeter
gauges for a whole lot less if you don't mind them under the dash.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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> set
>
>
> Anyone try one of these yet
>
> http://www.shiftworks.com/gauges.htm
>
>
> Donnie
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[Chevelle-List] Fuse box wanted for 67 Chevelle

[396guy]

Anyone,

Before I tackle a rewiring job I'd like to obtain a fuse box from a 67
Chevelle.  It doesn't have to work (won't be used anyway) but I would like
at least 6"-8" of the wiring coming out the back.  I want to have a spare
one to ~read~ and figure where original wires went.

I'm looking for a donation here but I'll gladly pay any postage/shipping.
Please email me off-line if you'd like to donate .

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ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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RE: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles

[396guy]

Title: Message



Summit has the larger ones for $40.00 each and the smaller 
ones are abut $13.00 or so, each.
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Youngblood, Skip 
  (T&K at Alcoa)Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:55 
  AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 
Chevelles
  Thanks John
  Looks cool I'm trying to find out price.
   
  Skip 
  68SCBB
  
-Original Message-From: John Butler 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 
2:14 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
[Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 
Chevelles
You have to check this out...looks a lot 
easier than the array type!
 
 
http://www.painlessperformance.com/lamps.htm#leds

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  396guySent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:39 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 
  Chevelles
   
  
 
Dale,
 
Nice 
write-up and pictures.  From their website, it looks like you can 
tell that there is an LED array when the lights are lit, but from your 
pictures it looks just like the regular bulb.  So, when you look at 
your car with the LED array, can you tell? 
 
The pictures didn't do the installation justice but I 
wasn't about to reinstall the bulbs for a fairer test :*).  The 
LEDs are brighter and give a ~fuller~ light as opposed to the ~single 
spot~ of the bulb.  I've been told they are easier to see when 
being followed in the rain as well.  Not being in the trailing 
car however, I can't vouch for it, just what I was 
told. 
 
If I 
were to install these, it would be a lot more expensive than the 
$90!  Since you have to remove the housing and loosen the 
bumper, it would make sense to replace the nasty looking 
parts.  First, I would need new bezels ($150), then my lenses would 
look like crap ($40), and I would need gaskets ($9).  Assuming I 
could stop there, I would end up with almost $300 just to replace $1 in 
light bulbs! 
 
Isn't that the way it always happens? 
LOL! 
 
But 
I do see the need for these.  Before I had my car painted, people 
would complain and tell me how dim my brake lights were.  I tried 
the brighter bulbs, but they did not last long and were a pain to 
replace every few months.  So, I added a 3rd brake light in the 
molding above the rear window.  I'll have to take a picture of this 
to better explain, but it is not at all apparent that the LED bar is 
there until I step on the brakes.  The shop also fixed up the 
reflectors and now I have great visibility. 
 
I've had a third brake light for some time. 
Originally I had a $19.95 special from AutoZone.  When I had the 
interior done a couple of years ago, I had an LED unit installed in the 
console unit that goes up and over the package tray.  I don't have 
any pictures of it specifically, but it's in the raised section of this 
photo - http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/backseat1.jpg
 
Dale

RE: [Chevelle-List] great links

[396guy]

Thanks Rich,
 
Can always use fresh link info.
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard 
  MilkiewiczSent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:50 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] great 
  links
  Here's a link for everything 
  automotive.
  Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066
   
  http://www.angelfire.com/mi/scamden/links.html

RE: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles

[396guy]

Title: Message



In the case of the 67 where the socket has to be pulled out 
to remove the bulb as opposed to removing a lens to get to the bulb,  
these would have to be no larger in diameter than the 1157 bulb itself to fit 
back into the tail lamp housing.  On a 67 you can't get to the bulb by 
removing the lens.  Summit lists these for $40.00 each (for 80221)and 
$13.70 (for the smaller 80220) they're both on backorder.
 
On cars that you remove the lens to replace the bulb, these 
would certainly be simply to install although the larger one w/32 LEDs 
is about the same total price.
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
  ButlerSent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:14 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] LED 
  Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles
  You 
  have to check this out...looks a lot easier than the array 
  type!
   
   
  http://www.painlessperformance.com/lamps.htm#leds
  
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396guySent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:39 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] LED 
Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles
 

   
  Dale,
   
  Nice 
  write-up and pictures.  From their website, it looks like you can 
  tell that there is an LED array when the lights are lit, but from your 
  pictures it looks just like the regular bulb.  So, when you look at 
  your car with the LED array, can you tell? 
   
  The pictures didn't do the installation justice but I wasn't 
  about to reinstall the bulbs for a fairer test :*).  The LEDs are 
  brighter and give a ~fuller~ light as opposed to the ~single spot~ of the 
  bulb.  I've been told they are easier to see when being followed 
  in the rain as well.  Not being in the trailing car however, I 
  can't vouch for it, just what I was 
  told. 
   
  If I 
  were to install these, it would be a lot more expensive than the 
  $90!  Since you have to remove the housing and loosen the 
  bumper, it would make sense to replace the nasty looking parts.  
  First, I would need new bezels ($150), then my lenses would look like crap 
  ($40), and I would need gaskets ($9).  Assuming I could stop there, I 
  would end up with almost $300 just to replace $1 in light bulbs! 
   
  Isn't that the way it always happens? 
  LOL! 
   
  But I 
  do see the need for these.  Before I had my car painted, people would 
  complain and tell me how dim my brake lights were.  I tried the 
  brighter bulbs, but they did not last long and were a pain to replace 
  every few months.  So, I added a 3rd brake light in the molding above 
  the rear window.  I'll have to take a picture of this to better 
  explain, but it is not at all apparent that the LED bar is there until I 
  step on the brakes.  The shop also fixed up the reflectors and now I 
  have great visibility. 
   
  I've had a third brake light for some time. 
  Originally I had a $19.95 special from AutoZone.  When I had the 
  interior done a couple of years ago, I had an LED unit installed in the 
  console unit that goes up and over the package tray.  I don't have 
  any pictures of it specifically, but it's in the raised section of this 
  photo - http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/backseat1.jpg
   
  Dale

[Chevelle-List] Coolflex radiator hoses

[396guy]

Anyone ever use these on a big block?  I have a standard 1 1/2" top hose and
1 3/4" bottom hose.  Coolflex recommends one 2" coupler and one 2" adapter
with 1 3/4" reducer for the lower hose.  Why the 2"?  Both the lower water
pump hose and lower radiator hose connections are 1 3/4" aren't they?

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Two Tone???

[396guy]

Both those colors were available in 71 but I don't know if 
you could order the specific combination.  Have to check the trim tag to 
see if it was factory or not.  Would have 61 (Sandalwood) and 62 (Burnt 
Orange) codes.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad 
  P.Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 1:43 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Two 
  Tone???
  is this a two-tone color?  or just painted 
  like that?
   
  http://www.coastclassiccars.com/Chevy/id22.htm  
  
   
          
                  
                  
                  
          Thanks  
Chad

RE: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles

[396guy]

Title: Message



 

   
  Dale,
   
  Nice 
  write-up and pictures.  From their website, it looks like you can tell 
  that there is an LED array when the lights are lit, but from your pictures it 
  looks just like the regular bulb.  So, when you look at your car with the 
  LED array, can you tell? 
   
  The 
  pictures didn't do the installation justice but I wasn't about to reinstall 
  the bulbs for a fairer test :*).  The LEDs are brighter and give a 
  ~fuller~ light as opposed to the ~single spot~ of the bulb.  I've been 
  told they are easier to see when being followed in the rain as 
  well.  Not being in the trailing car however, I can't vouch for it, 
  just what I was told. 
   
  If I were 
  to install these, it would be a lot more expensive than the $90!  Since 
  you have to remove the housing and loosen the bumper, it would make sense 
  to replace the nasty looking parts.  First, I would need new bezels 
  ($150), then my lenses would look like crap ($40), and I would need gaskets 
  ($9).  Assuming I could stop there, I would end up with almost $300 just 
  to replace $1 in light bulbs! 
   
  Isn't 
  that the way it always happens? 
  LOL! 
   
  But I do 
  see the need for these.  Before I had my car painted, people would 
  complain and tell me how dim my brake lights were.  I tried the brighter 
  bulbs, but they did not last long and were a pain to replace every few 
  months.  So, I added a 3rd brake light in the molding above the rear 
  window.  I'll have to take a picture of this to better explain, but it is 
  not at all apparent that the LED bar is there until I step on the 
  brakes.  The shop also fixed up the reflectors and now I have great 
  visibility. 
   
  I've had a third brake light for some time. Originally I 
  had a $19.95 special from AutoZone.  When I had the interior done a 
  couple of years ago, I had an LED unit installed in the console unit that goes 
  up and over the package tray.  I don't have any pictures of it 
  specifically, but it's in the raised section of this photo - http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/backseat1.jpg
   
  Dale

RE: [Chevelle-List] Braided hose

[396guy]

I had Spectre hose covers for a while and they do look 
kinda cheezy IMHO.  Never could get them to fit at the ends (always frayed) 
and they looked kinda dull after a short while.  A nice set of chrome 
(or red or blue) clamp covers look good on a clean, black 
hose.
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  HannaSent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:23 PMTo: 
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  hose
  >dunno Vernon,>Everytime I've seen these hose covers, they just 
  don't look very good. I doubt the problem is in your installation,>more 
  than  likely just a cheese product.
  We just got back from Keller's in Dallas and we saw a 70 SS with the 
  braided hoses...he told us that he wished he'd never put them on as he hates 
  the fit and wasn't happy with the look. I have to admit, it wasn't as nice 
  looking as the stock hoses.
  Kelly & Jana Hanna
  HannaWoodworks
  ClassicChevyCountry

RE: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles

[396guy]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles



I did pay for them and I'd probably buy another set.  
I'll check my 67 Elky when I get back Sunday from the MAD/WACO show/drags at 
Arkansas City and see if they'd fit that at well.  May get another set for 
it too.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig A. 
  EllisSent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:50 AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] LED 
  Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles
  Dale,
   
  The question in 
  my mind is, if you had to pay for them, would you buy???
   
  Craig
  
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396guySent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:22 AMTo: 
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Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles
Brad,
 
I put a set of these in my 67 Chevelle a few months ago 
as a ~test~ subject for these guys.  You have to remove the tail lamp 
housing to remove the bezel and finally the lens.  The LEDs mount 
to the outside (not though a plug in socket like the bulb) via a simple 
3/16" stud and grommet arrangement.  I have some very ~unscientific~ 
before and after pictures in my blacked out garage for comparison, and steps 
on what it took to install them in my car at my "dalesplace" link 
below.  On the home page is a link to LED Tailight 
Installation.  The pictures are not conclusive to view but the 
lamps are much brighter especially in the sunlight.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad 
  WallerSent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:32 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] LED 
  Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelleson 9/5/02 4:12 
  PM, Technostalgia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Chevelle 
Owners,   Our company, Technostalgia, designs, 
manufactures, and sells LED taillight conversions for classic cars. 
 We have just introduced two new models for the '67 and '70 
Chevelle.   These LED assemblies (called arrays) 
replace the old 1157 bulb in your taillights.  The tail / turn / 
stop function are handled by very bright LEDs.  The arrays fit 
under your stock taillight lens.  Stock appearance is maintained 
while the lights are off.  These units are very bright, generate no 
heat, and will last for the life of your car.  The arrays bolt-in 
to factory holes in your taillight housing.   The cost is reasonable; $89.95 
for the '67 Kit and $99.95 for the '70 kit.   For photos and more 
information please visit our web site at www.cool-leds.com 
   If you have further 
questions please e-mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call at 
812-265-0062.  The phone is open until 8:00pm 
edt.Thanks,Todd 
  SondlesTechnostalgiaVery cool idea 
  (I had this about ten years ago before the LEDs were powerful enough), but 
  the price seems really high.  Have you yet been able to crate a true 
  1157 replacement with equivalent brightness?  How do you get the PC 
  board through the tail light housing, or do you have to disassemble the 
  whole thing?Brad Waller'67 Chevelle'66 Corvette 
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles

[396guy]

I don't think a direct replacement is possible due to the size of the single
bulb compared to the size required for an LED array.  Third brake lights are
available in LED as well as regular lamp form that will fit on the package
tray.  A plug in connecter (like a trailer hitch) would make it removable
but I'd leave it there.  I've had one on my 67 for quite a few years - a
very good investment.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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>
> The LEDs is a nice idea. It would be nice if they can be designed to just
> swap in for the bulb with no modifications. I was thinking of mounting a
> temporary LED stop light in my rear window that can be removed easily. I
> worry about some nut ramming me from behind while talking on the're cell
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RE: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles

[396guy]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] LED Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelles



Brad,
 
I put a set of these in my 67 Chevelle a few months ago as 
a ~test~ subject for these guys.  You have to remove the tail lamp housing 
to remove the bezel and finally the lens.  The LEDs mount to the 
outside (not though a plug in socket like the bulb) via a simple 3/16" stud and 
grommet arrangement.  I have some very ~unscientific~ before and after 
pictures in my blacked out garage for comparison, and steps on what it took to 
install them in my car at my "dalesplace" link below.  On the home page is 
a link to LED Tailight Installation.  The pictures are not 
conclusive to view but the lamps are much brighter especially in the 
sunlight.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad 
  WallerSent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:32 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] LED 
  Taillights for '67 & '70 Chevelleson 9/5/02 4:12 PM, 
  Technostalgia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Chevelle 
Owners,   Our company, Technostalgia, designs, 
manufactures, and sells LED taillight conversions for classic cars.  We 
have just introduced two new models for the '67 and '70 
Chevelle.   These LED assemblies (called arrays) replace 
the old 1157 bulb in your taillights.  The tail / turn / stop function 
are handled by very bright LEDs.  The arrays fit under your stock 
taillight lens.  Stock appearance is maintained while the lights are 
off.  These units are very bright, generate no heat, and will last for 
the life of your car.  The arrays bolt-in to factory holes in your 
taillight housing.   The cost is reasonable; $89.95 for the '67 Kit 
and $99.95 for the '70 kit.   For photos and more information please visit 
our web site at www.cool-leds.com  
  If you have further questions please e-mail us at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or call at 812-265-0062.  The phone is open until 
8:00pm edt.Thanks,Todd 
SondlesTechnostalgiaVery cool idea (I 
  had this about ten years ago before the LEDs were powerful enough), but the 
  price seems really high.  Have you yet been able to crate a true 1157 
  replacement with equivalent brightness?  How do you get the PC board 
  through the tail light housing, or do you have to disassemble the whole 
  thing?Brad Waller'67 Chevelle'66 Corvette 

RE: [Chevelle-List] 67 Chevelle vs. El Camino frame

[396guy]

Well, according to GM's publications, in 1967 all Chevelles 
had the same wheelbase of 115".  The convertible and Elky had boxed frames, 
the convertible had 14 mounting points, station wagons had 12, and all others 
had 10.  This is according to a September, 1966 publication of 1967 
Chevelle chassis specs.
 
You may be thinking of 68-72 years.  In 1969/70, which 
I have GM specs for, show the 2-door sport coupes and convertibles had 112" 
and 4-door cars, wagons, and Elkys had 116".
 
Dale McIntosh ACES 
#1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 
Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
  NastaSent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:36 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 67 Chevelle 
  vs. El Camino frame
  
  The 
  Chevelle has a 112 inch wheel base and the El Camino has a 116 inch wheel 
  base. Hence, the EC frame is 4 inches 
  longer.
   
   
  -Original 
  Message-
  Are the 
  frames for the '67 chevelle and El Camino the same?  Will they 
  interchange without any 
  modification??ThanksDonnie

RE: [Chevelle-List] 72 Chevelle Grill

[396guy]

Check the various Chevelle Show pictures I have at
http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/chevelle_shows/shows.htm.  Should be something
there you can use for reference.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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>
>
> Hi, anyone have a picture of a grill for a 72 ChevelleSS? Thanks
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Vacuum problem?

[396guy]

Craig,
 
I assumed the cowl vent was open all the time and 
not shut all the time; although the poster didn't specify which.  May 
be a bad assumption on my part (?)  Being open all the 
time would be an indication of no manifold vacuum at the valve to close it 
under normal driving conditions or when at idle. I don't know the vacuum hose 
routing from the flapper valve but the line may be pinched or the valve is 
bad.  Since you would normally have 14-18 inches of vacuum at idle, that 
should be more than enough to close the flapper valve.  I would assume it 
opens at somewhere between 5 and 10 inches of vacuum when you nail 
it.
 
Whether this has anything to do with the carb secondaries I 
would doubt since they're operated at the carb via the spring - unless the carb 
has recently been rebuilt and not put back together properly but I think they're 
be a sucking sound you could definitely hear.  Unless you can feel when the 
secondaries open under a load at WOT, I don't think you'll see them open just 
winging the engine while you're watching it.  And I sure hope you're not 
testing it like two guys I read about that got stopped in a car with the hood 
off.  One guy was sitting in the engine compartment to verify the 
secondaries were opening while the driver was hauling a$$ down the 
road!
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig A. 
  EllisSent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:42 AMTo: 
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  problem?
  Dale, that's 
  what I've always thought but I think the cowl induction system works manifold 
  vacuum drops - as in when the throttle is punched wide open. My understanding 
  is that vacuum is what keeps the cowl closed - that's why is snaps open when 
  you turn off the motor. I am not a mechanic and could be wrong about all this 
  - but the logic of the system seems to indicate this is how it should 
  work.
   
  Craig 
  E
  
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396guySent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:53 PMTo: 
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problem?
I wouldn't think so it'd be possible to generate too 
much vacuum.  Both my cars (396 and 327) pull about 17/18 at warm idle, 
15/16 cruising at steady throttle and jumps to 24/25 range when 
decelerating.
 
You problems sound like lack of vacuum - bleeding off 
somewhere.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig A. 
  EllisSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:37 AMTo: 
  Chevelle (E-mail)Subject: [Chevelle-List] Vacuum 
  problem?
  Is it possible to generate too 
  much manifold vacuum and, if so, how does one diagnose the problem and 
  remedy??? My cowl induction has stopped working and my vacuum secondaries 
  appear to be malfunctioning. I'm wondering if the problems are 
  related...
   
  CAE
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] Boat motor 454

[396guy]

Closest I can find is 3999289 and 
388289 which are 72-79 454.  I found a PerTronix site (http://www.vintageperformance.com/retrorockets/thermo-e.htm) 
that  sells Ignitor ignition for them (IBM distriutors[?]) but can't find 
Thermo-Electron on the web anywhere.  If it's free for the pulling 
though...:*)
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John C. 
  ButlerSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:18 PMTo: 
  Chevelle-List@Chevelles. Net (E-mail)Subject: [Chevelle-List] Boat 
  motor 454
  I have been 
  offered a 454 boat motor for free and I took the casting numbers of the rear 
  of the block but cannot find what this block is... rear casting # 
  8989289   GM T-12   Block was 
  built by Thermo Electron Engine Corp  I'm hoping someone here can 
  decipher this number, as it does not come up on the websites...I have to pull 
  the motor myself to get it so I want to be what I'm getting this 
  weekend.
   
   
   
   
  Jb

RE: [Chevelle-List] Converting my 67 malibu from manual to power steering

[396guy]

Dave already covered the Pitman arm difference so I'll just add that Elky
stuff should be the same as the Malibu lineup.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com




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RE: [Chevelle-List] Column Shift Indicator Lens

[396guy]

I pretty much disregard the shift indicator in my 67 Elky since it now has a
TH350 in it and it's still on the column. Came with the car so I don't know
what linkage was used but I can feel the detents fine enough for now.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dean Vandergriff
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Dan,
>   A 350 or 400 trans will work fine with the existing column
> shifter.  The trick with the indicator lens is that the lens is not a
> flat piece.  It is thick at the bottom & tapers toward the top.  You may
> be able to make a flat lens & shim it in place but I haven't tried yet.
>
> Dean Vandergriff
>
>
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>
>
> >Dave,
> >On my 65, I removed two screws securing the chrome cover, and the
> >indicator glass came right out with it. Are you putting in a TH350/400?
>
> >If so I would be real interested to know how you get the column shifter
>
> >to work with it. Take it easy. Dan McIntosh
> >65 Malibu
>
> Sweet - that sounds easy enough to do. I'd heard that it can be
> removed without removing the cover, but I wanted to make sure before
> I did it.
>
> I'm putting in a TH200-4R. I want to keep the column shifter for a
> while, due at least in part to the prices of floor shifters up here,
> but if it doesn't work the  it doesn't work.  We'll see what happens,
> I guess.
>
> Dave.
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Vacuum problem?

[396guy]

I wouldn't think so it'd be possible to generate too much 
vacuum.  Both my cars (396 and 327) pull about 17/18 at warm idle, 15/16 
cruising at steady throttle and jumps to 24/25 range when 
decelerating.
 
You problems sound like lack of vacuum - bleeding off 
somewhere.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig A. 
  EllisSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:37 AMTo: 
  Chevelle (E-mail)Subject: [Chevelle-List] Vacuum 
  problem?
  Is it possible to generate too much 
  manifold vacuum and, if so, how does one diagnose the problem and remedy??? My 
  cowl induction has stopped working and my vacuum secondaries appear to be 
  malfunctioning. I'm wondering if the problems are related...
   
  CAE
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] Suspension issue..

[396guy]

I've heard of people loosening up (not removing) the body 
mounting bolts and nudging the car body to center it.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry 
  BrownSent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:51 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Suspension 
  issue..
  All,
   
  I have a 65 Chevelle 4 door wagon and have a 
  question regarding the way the car sits. The body of the car is sitting about 
  a half a inch to the passenger side. The tires are really wide and barely fit 
  under the car. The car only rubs when making left turns. The car is setup with 
  Airbag suspension and I am not sure how to determine what the problem would 
  be. If you look at the body mounts you can see that the bolts aren't straight. 
  Just curious if anyone has any suggestions as to where the problem could 
  be..
   
  tia
  Larry

RE: [Chevelle-List] leaded or unleaded fuel

[396guy]

I ran my (now sold) 74 Vette with unleaded for a year, I'm running my 67
Elky on unleaded and I ran my 396 on unleaded for 14 years.  I too have
heard that due to the heat/cool cycle you probably won't have any problems
with valve seats.  However, when you rebuild the engine you should have
hardened exhaust seats installed.  I rebuilt my 396 last winter and had this
done.

As Dan said, check to see if someone has put a catalytic converter on the
exhaust. If that's the case, you HAVE to run unleaded or it'll burn it out
in no time.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com

> Henri,
> In my 65 I run unleaded fuel, and the motor has never been
> rebuilt. The lead
> was only added to lubricate the valve seats, because they were
> not hardened
> back then. I would tend to think that after 37 years of heat cycling the
> engine, the seats would pretty much be hardened. Most of the people I know
> with stock, ie., never rebuilt, engines in their old cars don't
> bother with
> the lead additive. How are the Netherlands this time of year?
> Dan McIntosh
> 65 Malibu
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RE: [Chevelle-List] '67 327 questions (Camaro SS reference)

[396guy]

Dunno about what was required with the SS package on 67 and 68 Camaros but
my Chilton's shows no less than 8 327's for 67 Camaros (incl a few 210hp
models) and 2 for 68 Camaros as well as various 350's for both years.  An
"EA" coded 327 is from a 65-68 Chevelle.

Chilton shows:
67/68 Camaro 327 3 or 4 speed (210hp) "MA"
67 Camaro 327 w/ex. EM (with exhaust emission) "MB"
67/68 Camaro 327 PG. (210hp) "ME"
67 Camaro PG w/ex. EM "MF"
67 Camaro 327/275 3 or 4 spd (275hp) "MK"
67 Camaro 327 3 or 4 spd w/ex. EM "ML"
67 Camaro 327 PG (275hp) "MM"
67 Camaro 327 PG w/ex. EM "MN"

"MS", "MT", "MU" and "MV" were 350 suffix codes for 67/68 Camaros.

The "SS327" text was pulled from the original poster of the question.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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>
>
> The '67 and '68 smallblock Camaro SS was powered by a
> 350, not a 327.  When the 350 came out in '67 the only
> Chevy it was available in was the Camaro SS.
>
> Years ago I picked up a '67 EA-coded 327/275 for my
> since-sold '68 Camaro convertible and was told it came
> from a Chevelle.  IIRC I also did a little book-digging
> and came to that same conclusion.
>
> Brad O.
>
> > There was no 210hp 327 available in 67 Chevelles; there was a
> 210hp 327 in
> > the Camaro but it had a "MA" engine suffix code.  The SS327 would be a
> > Camaro since the 67 Chevelle SS specified the 396 minimum (at
> least in the
> > US) but the Camaro could be ordered with SS trim and the 327.
> BTW, the EA
> > code was used from 65 to 68 327/275 w/o heavy duty clutch in Chevelles.
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RE: [Chevelle-List] radiator

[396guy]

Wayne,
 
It's (suppose to be) a horizontal cross flow with 2-1" 
tubes.  Should have it in 10-14 days.
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

  
  I look forwad to Dales reportt on the rad from 
  Streetstuff.
  and mybe he can answere a questions 
?
  Is the rad from streetstuff a vertical on 
  hoizontal( cross flow)
  radiator ?
   
   

RE: [Chevelle-List] radiator

[396guy]

I just ordered an alum rad from http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/157/.  
They're $298 now plus (mine was) $21 shipping and $50 for A/T cooling. A couple 
of other folks on Team Chevelle have purchased them and I finally took the 
plunge - see http://www.chevelles.com/forum/Forum27/HTML/000460.html. 
I talked to Dave Z, one of the owners I think, and we went through the "custom" 
configuration on the phone to ensure things were at least ordered 
right.
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  radiator
  Could someone tell me of a good site to buy a 
  radiator for my 64 elky? I have serched jegs, summit, ect. and I just can't 
  afford 700+ dollars for  a be cool brand. Any ideas? Thanks 
  Vernon
  ACES# 05503

RE: [Chevelle-List] '67 327 questions

[396guy]

Jim,

Actually there was a 275hp and 325hp 327 in '67 - the 325hp being the L79
and the 275hp version being the ~base~ 327. My 67 Elky has the 327/275hp.
There was no 210hp 327 available in 67 Chevelles; there was a 210hp 327 in
the Camaro but it had a "MA" engine suffix code.  The SS327 would be a
Camaro since the 67 Chevelle SS specified the 396 minimum (at least in the
US) but the Camaro could be ordered with SS trim and the 327.  BTW, the EA
code was used from 65 to 68 327/275 w/o heavy duty clutch in Chevelles.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com



> > >
> > > OK friends,
> > >
> > > I have spent almost the whole day trying to
> > confirm
> > > that the '67 327 Chevelle motor that I have is the
> > > 275-hp one, and not the 210.  I don't have
> > experience
> > > in doing a compression check, and the motor's
> > apart so
> > > I don't think I could do one anyway.  I will tell
> > you
> > > what I do know, and hopefully together we can
> > solve
> > > this mystery..
> > >
> > > -Engine casting# is 3903352 ('67 327)
> > > -Engine letter code is EA (327, manual
> > transmission)
> > > -Distributor# is 249 (which I read today was a
> > #
> > > specific ONLY to the 275hp motor)
> > > -heads are camel hump, #3890462, 64cc
> > > -the carb is apart, but it's a Rochester 750CFM
> > 4-bbl,
> > > part# 7020204FF
> > > -Water Pump #3782608 ('67 327, on both 210 and
> > 275hp
> > > motors)
> > > -cam # is irrelevant b/c both the 210 and 275hp
> > motors
> > > used the same one..
> > >
> > > The original owner did not have the original
> > intake or
> > > exhaust manifolds, but said they were the standard
> > RAM
> > > horns which would have been on both motors as
> > well.
> > > He also claimed that the motor has never been
> > opened
> > > up, save taking the heads off for a valve job.
> > > Judging from the grease caked on the bottom end, I
> > > believe him..  The only thing I think I can do, if
> > > noone can help me determine by the info above, is
> > pull
> > > the pan and check the crank #.. The 210hp motor
> > > supposedly has a cast crank, where the 275 has the
> > > forged steel one..
> > >
> > > The thing that's making this the toughest for me,
> > is
> > > that the original owner had a Camaro in the garage
> > > (don't know the year), and today I read that all
> > of
> > > the specs respective to this motor also describe,
> > > almost to a 'T', the '67 SS327 L30 motor.. So now
> > I'm
> > > completely perplexed!
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated- I'm off to
> > take
> > > some Excedrin..   8^]
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > '66 Malibu
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I am also on Yahoo Messenger
> > > virtually all the time if anyone would like to
> > send
> > > answers there-)
> > >
> > >
> > > __
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> > > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
> > > http://finance.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > what i meant to say.there is no EA code designated
> > to any camaro.but i found
> > one EA listed under 1968 chevy ll and nova 327
> > manual transmission
> > also
> > EA 1966-68 327 m/t chevelle
> > EA1967 327 with four barrel chevelle
> > i hope this doesnt make your head ach worse
> > jason pollock
> >
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RE: [Chevelle-List] chevelle disc brake swap

[396guy]

F-body stuff takes work to install - definitely not a 
bolt-in.  Better off sticking with 69-72 A-body cars (Tempest/GTO, 
Chevelle, Skylark/Grand Sport, etc.) or getting an aftermarket kit from someone 
like Master Power Brakes or Baer.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  ewingSent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:54 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] chevelle disc 
  brake swap
  I just purchased my first chevelle, a 69 malibu, 
  and need some info on switching from front drum to disc brakes . I have 
  the chance to buy a complete front disc brake setup from a 71 camaro , 
  ball joints, tie rod ends rubber lines and all ,now will this simply 
  bolt on to my 69 spindles, can i use the new 71 camaro ball joints and 
  tie rod ends on my 69 malibu? any help is greatly appreciated as this is my 
  first chevelle ,thanks R Ewing 

RE: [Chevelle-List] Isn't this a rare car?

[396guy]

Maybe not the definitive expert, but Dan Carr has done a 
lot of research and if you look at http://www.chevelles.com/shop/ss_ident.html#72, 
 "Some early 
sales literature implies that an SS-307 was available, but that is probably not 
the case since it was contradicted by some mid-year documents."   I'd 
bet the 307 never was sold with the SS package, at least one's never surfaced 
that I know of.
 
Dan has some interesting information on the 71 Heavy Chevy 
as well.  According to the car in question, the 13417 VIN would be 
correct.  The Heavy Chevy was based on the base Chevelle model and not the 
Malibu.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com  
In a message dated 8/20/2002 9:30:20 PM Eastern Daylight 
  Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I thought only 350's were the lowest you could get on a 1972 SS. 
nope you could get a 307, only year  for 
  it 

RE: [Chevelle-List] "Factory Fit" wiring

[396guy]

Hopefully the site is just getting started...Anyone using FrontPage to
create a site and doesn't give the page a title (instead of leaving the
default of 'new_page_1') needs a little more learning about their software.
The photo on that page sure doesn't look like the photo at
http://www.ezwiring.com/18_fuse__21_circuit_harness.htm if you start from
their home page and look at the same setup.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] "Factory Fit" wiring
>
>
> Vernon,
>  I need to caution you that I haven't fully researched the
> quality of this company's product yet, and it's very important what
> guage the wires are, and what type of insulation is used. I need to make
> sure I am comparing apples to apples here.
>
> There were actually several other companies at the NSRA Nats that I seen
> with comparable prices, and at least at first glance, similar products.
> EZ Wire is just the one that came to mind at the time.
>
> I just found where GM themselves are selling a fairly complete but
> "generic" harness for what I got a quote for $415 from my local dealer
> today. I found it in the GM Performance parts book on page 164. The part
> # on that is: 12355693
>
> But the link to EZ wire  and the harness that impressed
> me...although the site is not the most informative.. Is:
>
> http://www.ezwiring.com/new_page_1.htm
>
> Some street rod friends bought generic 21 circuit harnesses from someone
> else. I am trying to find out who now.
>
> Steve


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Isn't this a rare car?

[396guy]

Sure is rare!  Not too many Burnt Orange Heavy Chevy's came with a blue hood
complete with black stripes.   I don't know exactly how "rare" the Heavy
Chevy is but with as much restoration as this one needs I don't think it'd
be worth it.  Not even sure if there's $500 worth of parts left - maybe some
core charge value in the engine/trans/etc.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Isn't this a rare car?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1852697336
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RE: [Chevelle-List] 66 dash wiring diagram

[396guy]

I have diagrams online for a 67, they may help.
http://www.team67.com/information/index.htm and click the Wiring Diagrams
link.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com

> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 dash wiring diagram
>
>
> Does anyone have a copy of the wiring schematic for the dash on a
> 66 Malibu?
> I have an assembly manual ordered that is supposed to have the
> schematics in
> it. My problem is this thing is blowing the fuse instantly. With the
> schematic I could find the wire color and all it is routed through or too
> and anything else that is tied into it. This wouldn't bother so much if I
> only drove during the day but at night it is impossible to see my
> speed and
> the cops around here are a real pain.
> Thanks for any help or information
> Wayne
> 66 Malibu
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] spark plug fouled

[396guy]

Sure would.  If the spent exhaust can't escape the 
cylinder on the exhaust stroke, it'd mix with incoming fresh air and fuel.  
I'd check the rest of the exhaust springs just to be safe as 
well.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  DougSent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:49 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] spark plug 
  fouled
  Pop's big block 396 has been fouling the 
  #5 plug for a while. He bought an extender and still no success.Tore into the 
  motor and found #5 exhaust spring was broke, thankfully it did not drop.He 
  built the motor with good valve springs for the intake but took a short cut on 
  the exhaust (used ones ).Would a broke exhaust valve spring cause a lot of 
  fouling and cause the motor to run bad at idle?  There is no signs of 
  water in the oil .Any help or other places to 
  check.thankx
  Doug 
Fugere

RE: [Chevelle-List] Switch me...

[396guy]

I think you'll have to unsubscribe with the current email 
address and resubscribe with the new one.  Check http://www.chevelles.com/lists/ for 
details.  I've had to do it in the past and it's simple if you 
follow the instructions.
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  PlaysoSent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:04 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Switch 
  me...
  Hi, Could the administer take me off this list - 
  and then put my new mail on it - [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Thanks. 
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] "Factory Fit" wiring

[396guy]

Thanks Herb,

I've got one of those rat's nest due to the new stereo, digital gauge pod,
Vintage A/C, power windows/doors, MSD, EFI, etc.  My old fuse box is showing
corrosion on the fuse contacts and I can imagine what the inside of it looks
like!  I'd just like to replace it for peace of mind.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com

>
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> The "underdash" harness has the fuse box but no schematic.
> That's not a big
> deal though because you can match it up to a factory wire diagram, it's
> pretty much a plug-n-play job.
>
> The best part is getting rid of the rat's nest created by 30+ years of
> "repairs" and "mods" from previous owners.
>
> cYa-
>
> Herb Lumpp
> 1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"
> ACES 3509, MCC 528
> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "396guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] "Factory Fit" wiring
>
>
> > Curious Herb...did the M&H kits have separate diagrams for each section?
> My
> > old fuse box in my 67 is pretty ratty and I'd like to at least
> replace it.
> > Which harness kit came with the fuse box and did it come with a wiring
> > schematic?
> >
> > Dale McIntosh
> > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> > 67 SS/67 Elky
> > http://www.dalesplace.com
> > http://www.team67.com
> > http://www.midwestchevelles.com
> >
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] "Factory Fit" wiring

[396guy]

Curious Herb...did the M&H kits have separate diagrams for each section?  My
old fuse box in my 67 is pretty ratty and I'd like to at least replace it.
Which harness kit came with the fuse box and did it come with a wiring
schematic?

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herbert Lumpp
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] "Factory Fit" wiring
>
>
> > Do I have something wrong here? Anyone replace ALL of their wiring with
> > these companies for under $800?
> >
>
> Steve,
>
> You don't have anything wrong but I think you're missing some of the
> points...
>
> I replaced the entire harness on my Elky, it cost right around
> $800.  When I
> first checked into M&H, I thought the same things as you.  The more I
> thought about it and the more I researched the different
> manufacturers, the
> cost started to look more reasonable.
>
> My car is nothing near stock so that was never a concern, but
> here are some
> of the reasons that helped my decide it was worth the money...
>
> I liked:
>
> Knowing I could look at a factory wire diagram and trouble shoot
> my harness.
>
> The idea that everything "fit" where it was supposed to.
>
> Not having to splice wires together because the "universal" harness didn't
> quite reach.
>
> That all the connectors and plugs were factory installed.
>
> That the wires were factory color coded - matches the wire diagram.
>
> Knowing I could buy the harness in sections.
>
> Installing everything in less than a day and having it all work!
>
> Being able to order the harness modified for HEI and one wire alternator.
>
> I'm sure I had more reasons to justify the money, but these were the main
> ones.  It's your decision what you end up doing, but you
> shouldn't overlook
> a quality product based on the price.
>
> cYa-
>
> Herb Lumpp
> 1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"
> ACES 3509, MCC 528
> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] 67 Cowl Tag Help

[396guy]

Donnie,

Wish I knew.  I'm finding more strange numbers on '67 trim tags and it
doesn't seem to be plant specific.  I saw two '67s at the ACES/MidAmerica
show built at the Kansas plant with numbers beside the dates.  I found
another with a "BF" location and can't tell if it's Baltimore or Flint but
it has a six digit number below the paint code as well. See
http://www.team67.com/information/oddities.htm.  If anyone knows if these
are plant codes, Fisher codes, etc., I'd like to know as well.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 6:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 67 Cowl Tag Help
>
>
> I'm trying to decode my 67 Chevelle Cowl tag..  cant find
> what the 455,
> 11 and 101496 mean need a little help
>
>
> 06B 455 11
> ST  67  13617   BAL 36063   Body
> TR  782 SS  Paint
> 101496
>
> Production Time (Month/Week) - 06B
> 455 ??
> 11 ??
> Model Year - 1967
> Division - 1
> Series Number Body Style - 136717 (Malibu, HT, 2 Dr Coupe)
> Assembly Plant - BAL (Baltimore, Maryland)
> Unit Number - 36063
> Trim Color - 782 (Medium Gold Roncina Cloth, Medium Gold
> Imitation Leather,
> Bench Seat)
> Upper Color - S (Sierra Fawn)
> Lower Color - S (Sierra Fawn)
> 101496 ??
>
> Thanks
>
> Donnie
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires

[396guy]

Good point.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emil Dusek
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
> 
> 
> 
> Kinda misleading calling them 135 or 180 degree bends. Check
> out some plumbing fittings(EARLS, AEROQUIP)and you will see
> what a 180 really is.
> 
> Emil Dusek
> 
> 
> 396guy wrote:
> > 
> > A matter of terms I suppose.  Some mfgs list them as "straight" 
> and some as
> > "180".
> > 
> > Dale McIntosh
> > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> > 67 SS/67 Elky
> > http://www.dalesplace.com
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> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emil Dusek
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:27 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey guys, are you'll sure about your geometry?
> > >
> > > I've seen straight, 45 and 90 degree boots but never 135
> > > or 180 degree ones. 180 degree would be so extreme
> > > that the boot would bend  into a "U" shape.
> > >
> > > MSD wires/boots are bend-to-fit any angle you need.
> > >
> > > Emil Dusek:71 SS-502
> > >
> > > 396guy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've had the best luck with 135 degree boots with headers.
> > > Some 90's will
> > > > fit and some 180's will fit, but I haven't found 8 plugs yet
> > > that will work
> > > > with all 90's or all 180's.  I have found that all 135 degree
> > > angles will
> > > > work.  Personally, I like Taylor wires.  They come in the 135
> > > degree boot
> > > > and the plug boots are easy to grasp.
> > > >
> > > > Dale McIntosh
> > > > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> > > > 67 SS/67 Elky
> > > > http://www.dalesplace.com
> > > > http://www.team67.com
> > > > http://www.midwestchevelles.com
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Richard M. Pruett
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:19 PM
> > > > > To: Chevelle-List
> > > > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK all,
> > > > > I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking
> > > > > for new spark
> > > > > plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed 
> and installed
> > > > > Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90
> > > degree and 135
> > > > > degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local
> > > auto parts store
> > > > > has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots
> > > for about $75.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from 
> any 396 guys?
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RE: [Chevelle-List] VIN #'s

[396guy]

My best guess is plant codes but could be some options.  I'm not that up on
the option codes, sorry.

Dale

Any idea what the numbers at the bottom are for?
> ACC E 5V Thanks , Vernon


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RE: [Chevelle-List] "Long" brand of shifters

[396guy]

Never used one but I've had a Hurst Comp Plus in my 67 for the past 16 years
and except for an upgrade to the steel bushings 15 years ago, it's still as
tight as ever.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chevelle 69
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] "Long" brand of shifters
>
>
>
> Is anyone using the "Long" brand of shifters? I have heard many good
> things about them, although finding them is harder than heck. Jegs
> doesn't carry them and Summitt has stopped ..for some reason.
>
> I did finally find them at:
>
> http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/shifter_4speeds.asp
>
> One thing they are not is cheap!   But heard nothing but good about the
> quality. Is anyone using them for street use?
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s

[396guy]

Your book matches what GM says. Looks like a foul-up on one or the other;
the trim tag does show beige paint and medium fawn interior - sound right?
Many states' title have the VIN as well. Is it on the title?

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of vmckague
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> The cowl tag is as follows
> 12A
> Style 64-5680 Body VN 3288
> Trim 763  Paint 93-8
> ACC E-5V
> In the book I have its says the number 5680 stands for 2-dr, Deluxe 8cyl.
> and the 2nd and third Vin numbers 55 says it stands for El Camino Deluxe
> 6cyl.  The book I'm am using is Chevelle, Malibu and El Camino ID
> numbers by
> Car and parts Magazine.  Vernon
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:00 PM
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>
> > What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8
> > cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine!
> >
> > Rocky Hill
> >
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires

[396guy]

A matter of terms I suppose.  Some mfgs list them as "straight" and some as
"180".

Dale McIntosh
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emil Dusek
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
>
>
> Hey guys, are you'll sure about your geometry?
>
> I've seen straight, 45 and 90 degree boots but never 135
> or 180 degree ones. 180 degree would be so extreme
> that the boot would bend  into a "U" shape.
>
> MSD wires/boots are bend-to-fit any angle you need.
>
> Emil Dusek:71 SS-502
>
> 396guy wrote:
>
> > I've had the best luck with 135 degree boots with headers.
> Some 90's will
> > fit and some 180's will fit, but I haven't found 8 plugs yet
> that will work
> > with all 90's or all 180's.  I have found that all 135 degree
> angles will
> > work.  Personally, I like Taylor wires.  They come in the 135
> degree boot
> > and the plug boots are easy to grasp.
> >
> > Dale McIntosh
> > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> > 67 SS/67 Elky
> > http://www.dalesplace.com
> > http://www.team67.com
> > http://www.midwestchevelles.com
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Richard M. Pruett
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:19 PM
> > > To: Chevelle-List
> > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
> > >
> > >
> > > OK all,
> > > I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking
> > > for new spark
> > > plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed
> > > Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90
> degree and 135
> > > degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local
> auto parts store
> > > has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots
> for about $75.
> > >
> > > Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys?
> > >
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website

[396guy]

Yeah, but I workin' to solve that problem :*)

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
>
>
> Is there anything that Dale's site doesn't have??
> Dan McIntosh
> 65 Malibu
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wurzbacher, Lance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
>
>
> > thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember seeing
> oil
> > pump info there.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:59 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
> >
> >
> > Here's a start...
> >
> > http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:39 PM
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> > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
> >
> >
> > Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers?  I'm
> > trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're
> applications.
> > The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826
> >
> > TIA Lance
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website

[396guy]

http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm

The 3904826 is for 66-71 all special high performance big blocks
w/mechanical cam.  The 3876868  may be a superceding part number or a high
performance option; the number doesn't show up in my parts book.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:24 PM
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>
>
> thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember
> seeing oil
> pump info there.
>
>>
> Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers?  I'm
> trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications.
> The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826
>
> TIA Lance
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires

[396guy]

I've had the best luck with 135 degree boots with headers.  Some 90's will
fit and some 180's will fit, but I haven't found 8 plugs yet that will work
with all 90's or all 180's.  I have found that all 135 degree angles will
work.  Personally, I like Taylor wires.  They come in the 135 degree boot
and the plug boots are easy to grasp.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard M. Pruett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:19 PM
> To: Chevelle-List
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
>
>
> OK all,
> I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking
> for new spark
> plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed
> Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90 degree and 135
> degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local auto parts store
> has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots for about $75.
>
> Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys?
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s

[396guy]

The model series will show if it was V8 or 6 but not what size V8 or 6.
Example for a base '64 Elky, 45380 was a 6-cyl and 45480 was V8 - the Custom
El Camino got a 45580 for a 6-cyl and 45680 for a V-8.  The trim tag model
series should match that portion of the VIN.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:01 PM
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>
>
> What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8
> cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine!
>
> Rocky Hill
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] What The??

[396guy]

Dan,
 
The English language also tends to ~abuse~ other language 
translations more frequently. :*)
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

   
  Larry, 
  The path, the road, same thing. Could also mean 
  the way. The English language apparently has more words than the Spanish 
  language, so when you translate to English, most words have more than one 
  meaning, though they generally are related words. Take it 
  easy.
   
  Dan McIntosh
  65 Mailbu
  
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Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:42 
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] What 
The??
Dan: are you sure 
of that? I always thought it meant the road? 
Larry 
(z) 

RE: [Chevelle-List] What The??

[396guy]

I agree with Dave here.  Being from the ~can't leave it alone~ camp myself,
the 66 is a damn good looking ride!

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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>
> At 12:05 PM 08/03/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Granted, these two Chevelles aren't everyone's cup of tea, but
> they aren't
> >that bad.  For that matter, I'm afraid to ask what everyone "really"
> >thinks of my Elky!
> >
> >cYa-
> >
> >Herb Lumpp
> >1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"
> >ACES 3509, MCC 528
> >http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
>
> Well, Herb I think you took a 66 Classic Elky (my favorite yr).
> ( I have 2 66's & 1 64 Elky) Don't like the 64 body style (wife's
> Elky). You took it & changed so much it is not like the original
> classic Elky anymore !
>
>
> I think you should be ashamed, because what you really did was
> take an Idol & turn it from a classic car into a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Masterpiece ! . Great Job Herb.
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] What The??

[396guy]

Maybe the arrows are so he'll know which way to push?  
Fairly decent looking racer though.  I can tell him it's not a SS simply 
from the VIN #13637.  Even the 65 SS V8 had a 138 VIN and the 65 SS 6-cyl 
was 137.
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan 
  McIntoshSent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:23 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] What 
  The??
  WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING TO THESE 
  CARS?
   
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1848392347
   
  scroll down and look at the interior pic. pay 
  attention the the pedals.
   
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1848081832
   
  also look at the interior pic.
   
  Take it easy.
   
  Dan McIntosh
  65 Malibu

RE: [Chevelle-List] Lower front control arms

[396guy]

If you're looking for tubular arms, you might try Fat Man Fabrications at
http://www.fatmanfab.com/.  $749 for upper AND lowers (stock width or 3"
narrowed) and in an email to me, they claim a direct bolt on with no
fabrication required.  Well, the shop I contacted that had them claimed
that.  I told them I simply wanted to unbolt the stock arms and replace
them; no B-body spindles, no turned ball joints, etc.

~~
Simply unbolt the factory ones and bolt up the new
ones.

Thanks, and Have a Great day
Charles
770-483-6321
NSRA Southeast Chief Safety  Inspector
www.hotrodssuperstore.com
www.hrww.com
www.hotrodsworldwide.com
~~~

If you're just looking for a replacement A-arm, probably a salvage yard
would be your only bet.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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>
>
> Tubular lowers are available from Global West but expect to wait
> a while for
> them.
> Michael
>
>
> >From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:23:42 -0400
> >
> >Does anyone have a set of lower front control arms that will fit my '70
> >Chevelle? I just learned that I have a damaged lower on the left
> front and
> >I
> >have no idea where to get one. The uppers seem to be available in tubular
> >style but not the lower. HELP!
> >
> >Craig Ellis
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Decode help

[396guy]

>
>
> A friend is looking at a 66 Elky & wants to know this cowl
> tag means.
>
> O7C 3364

07 = July
C = third week

> ST 66-13480  KAN 4643

13480 = V-8 El Camino (standard, not Custom) built in Kansas City

> TR 707-A V-V

707 is Lt. Fawn Pattern Imitation Leather
V-V is Cameo Beige lower-upper
("W" is Chateau Slate.)


> W 2M

W = tinted windshield at top strip only
2M = Powerglide trans.

Trivia - 5,897 standard V8 Elkys built as opposed to 24,337 Custom V8 Elkys
(13680).  Number spread is pretty close to the 67s as well.  Seems the
Custom was ordered about 5 to 1 over the standard edition.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
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http://www.team67.com
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RE: [Chevelle-List] electrical problem

[396guy]

Glad it was of some help Jason.  That's why I have the information out
there.

Dale McIntosh
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67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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>
>
> Dale,
>
> Thanks. I looked at your picture and my wires are not the same
> color but I
> just fliped the two wires from the alternator to the regulator.
> The picture
> doesnt show which is which so I had a 50/50 chance to get it
> right and when I
> flipped them started the car and instantly knew it was right as I
> could hear
> the alternator charging. 13.5 volts at the battery. Rock steady.
> I think the
> previous owner must have tried to fix it because when I rebuilt
> that section
> I copied it exactely as it was on the car. I even copied the
> length and for
> some reason it is like three feet longer than I need. When I
> start to detail
> the engine compartment I will shorten them up to a more reasonable length.
> But again thanks for the help.
>
> Jason
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Documenting my '67 Chevelle

[396guy]

Donnie,

Some states' DMV will do a title search and turn up previous owners, some
won't.  I'm sure there's a fee involved if they'll do it at all. The
Protect-O-Plate is a good place to start for options the car came with.
Unfortunately, GM here in the states didn't keep good records and from what
they say, those they did have were lost in a warehouse fire years ago.
Heaven (or an old line worker) only knows what the punch card would
indicate.

While I agree with Craig that if it's a Canadian built Chevelle you're in
luck, I disagree to some extent about information compiled at various web
sites. Probably 90% of data I have is regurgitated from (1) a GM Restoration
Kit that shows options, weights, colors, etc and (2) a GM Parts and
Accessories Manual I retrieved from the trash from a Chevrolet dealer I
worked at in 72.  The other 10% is gathered from personal observations and
ownership of 5 67 Chevelles and 2 67 El Caminos, plus people here and at
Team Chevelle who have collectively spent more time than I under the hood,
laying on their backs, and confirming options and such from their own
sources.  While some have implied that I sneer at restoration types, that's
their forte and I have no qualms about picking their brains for information
to share.

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Documenting my '67 Chevelle
>
>
> I've owned my '67 Chevelle for over 24 years now and finally had
> a thought to
> go and document the car.  Couple of Questions
>
> 1.  Just what should I include?
> 2.  I have the original manual and protecto plate no build
> sheet, but I
> did find a old computer card (we used to call them punch or tacky cards)
> under the back seat.  Anyone know what this was for?
> 3.  Any pointers on how to get some of the information (such as previous
> owners, dealership where purchased, etc??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Donnie
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RE: [Chevelle-List] electrical problem

[396guy]

Jason,

I have a wiring diagram for a 67 if that'll help.  Shows where the wires go
along with the colors.
http://www.team67.com/information/engine_lighting.jpg

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
http://www.midwestchevelles.com



> Subject: [Chevelle-List] electrical problem
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have a problem with the alternator not charging.
> When I bought my 65 the three wires going from the alternator to the
> regulator were completely melted together.
> So I took the alternator and had it tested it puts out 14.5 volts.
> The regulator looked like it was original. So I bought an new one
> and rebuilt
> the three wires with brand new wire and connectors.
> I thought I put them back on the regulator in the right order.
> Could someone look at theirs and tell me the order of the wires
> from top to
> bottom?
>
> Jason
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RE: [Chevelle-List] What kind of car is this???

[396guy]

It is an early-mid 50's Studebaker.
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  PlaysoSent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:36 PMTo: 
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  car is this???
  Hi everyone, a friend of mine by the name Carol 
  wants me to find out what kind of car it is, and I have looked all through 
  ebay and cannot find out what kind of car it is, so if you could help, that 
  would be greatly appreciated.  Thank 
you.

RE: [Chevelle-List] chevelle questions part2

[396guy]

Try http://www.mortec.com for casting numbers and 
stampings not only for blocks (large and small) but heads as well.  Great 
site.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  JDHallSent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:19 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] chevelle 
  questions part2
  Sorry for so many post however if this block is 
  worth having I can get it for a song tomorrow. I have only been able to find 
  the following. Its either a 68-71 454 or 69 427. On one site it mentioned 
  the 427 being a COPO. I hope the stamping will confirm one or the 
  other.
  Casting#  3963512 
  Stamped# front of heads T0328LE
   
  Thanks
  JD
  
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JDHall 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:27 
PM
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questions

Thanks
According to the casting its a 454 
1968-1971
 
Can anyone provide a site to decode the 
stamping?
T0328LE
 
Regards,
JD

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  From: 
  Brian 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] chevelle 
  questions
  
  JD,
   
  I found some good info for BBC including 396's 
  at
  http://roadsters.com/bbc/
   
  Sorry, I'm no help with the other 
  questions!
   
  Brian www.66chevelless.com

RE: [Chevelle-List] Do people have anything against SS clones???

[396guy]

Only if it had SS/Super Sport badging 
implying to the casual observer that it was an SS.  To me, that's passing 
it off as a SS.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

RE: [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Radio Delete plate

[396guy]

Naturally it's a SS radio delete plate...different from a 
Malibu radio delete plate I suppose.  LOL!
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:35 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] 66-67 Radio Delete platehere is one for a 
  67http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1847151104Tom 
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[396guy]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



Wasn't that one of the two Terry brought to CB a couple 
of years ago?  That one and the "Dan Blocker" Z-16?
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 
 As 
  for the Z-16 proto, Floyd sold it a while back, and it's now in the possession 
  of Terry Gunter down in Atlanta.  Lotsa "experimental" and early 
  production trim pieces on that one! Cool car... even cooler than other Z-16s 
  because of its "early" build status.  Unfortunately, it's not in the 
  museum anymore so seeing it in person is not as "easy" as it was a few years 
  ago.Chuck 

RE: [Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02

[396guy]

ARGH! Missed the comma between "...the biggest Chevelle Show on earth, the
Peach State Southeast Regional,..."  Should have figured the Peach State
show wasn't the "biggest" you were referring to. :*)

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[396guy]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



>>  And, I believe 
that among the Chevelle cognoscente ...
 
Whoa, Chuck!  "Cognoscente"?  You been reading 
Webster's again? :*)  Wow!
 
Speaking of things in print...the Year One (spring 
98) catalog I have shows SS427 flags for 66/67 Chevelles but state, 
"427's weren't originally factory-installed in '66 models but it's a common 
swap.  For this reason, we're including these emblems 
here." 
 
Concerning the Z-16's they state that the prototype was 
built in Baltimore on a hardtop chassis and the other 200 (and I quote "all 
Z-16s were hardtops") were assembled in Kansas City using the convertible 
boxed frame.
 
Four years ago at least, the "Tech Car" prototype was 
owned by and on display at the, then new, Floyd Garrett.
 
Dale

RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevelle owner's list

[396guy]

I think it hiccupped a bit.  I tried it just after 
posting and it died.  Just tried it and it workee now. 6:50pm 
CST
 
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John 
  NastaSent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:15 PMTo: 
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  owner's list
  
  Link 
  no workee for me.
   
   
  
  -Original 
  Message- http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/owners/owners.htm.  
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] Heads decoding

[396guy]

Title: Message



http://www.mortec.com 
has numbers for heads and blocks.
 
They show:
399382071..oval...OPEN...402, 113cc 
chamber, 255/114 ports399382071-84...oval...OPEN...454 Passenger and 
Trucks, 113cc chamber, 255/114 ports
353049.73-84...oval...OPEN...454, 122cc 
chamber, 255/119cc ports
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chevelle 
  69Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:04 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Heads 
  decoding
  Gents,
     where's 
  the best place to decode the numbers on heads? I have a pair a friend gave me, 
  and another that I just removed from my 396/402 today.
   
  I 
  need to decide which pair I want to use on this 396/402. Any advice is 
  appreciated.
   
  Here's what I have:
   
  Set 
  #1
   
  GM9T 
  D30 71  3993820
  GM10T E1 71  3993820
   
  Set 
  #2
   
  GM7T  L2 72  353049
  GM8T  J2 72  353049
   
   
  Thanks!
   
      
  Steve

RE: [Chevelle-List] Car Poll...Favorite Year?

[396guy]

Have a point there Chad.  There's a difference between fast 
and quick; as in how ~fast~ the car will go and how ~quick~ will it get to a 
given speed.  My first 67 SS with a 4.10 gear would run 100/110 and not 
have much left.  This was with factory bias ply tires on the 
Interstate.  For 7 weekends straight I drove it from Ft. Sill, OK to Kansas 
City (900 miles round trip).  Left OK Sat around noon after military 
inspection was over and returned on Sun night.  Another 67 I had with 
4.56 gears ran the quarter mile in the low 13's right at 105 mph at 5600 in 4th 
gear. 
 
Theoretically, my current 67 SS with a 3.07 gear would/could run 
147 mph top end at 5600 but would run the same quarter mile probably in the 15's 
at less than 100.  So, while it may be faster, it's not 
quicker.
Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad 
  PlaysoSent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 4:13 PMTo: 
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  Poll...Favorite Year?
  Fast?  I never thought that the old muscle cars were "fast", 
  only "powerful".  My dad told me his 67 chevelle would only go 100 
  mph,  but it would smoke the tires through first and second, and 
  chirp in 3rd.  it was a 396.  I heard the 440's were monsterous and 
  extremely powerful and would beat the 396's...but I don't want to debate 
  on that, lol.  I dont know if I said this before, but I met a guy at my 
  grandparent's 50th anniversity a couple days back and he had a 1970 Daytona 
  Charger with a 440 six pack, and he said that his friend rode with him once 
  and told him "muscle car, my ass!", so chuck punched it at 20 mph and broke 
  the tires loose and before you know it, they were on the freeway at 130 mph 
  and chuck told me his friend was crying, "slow down, slow down".  It was 
  a good story.  :)
     
              
                  
                  
                  
                  
  Chad
   
  
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  They are nice. I used to own a red with black vinyl top 68 
  Charger 440 auto. It was a very fast & comfortable car.
  Don
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  30, 2002 12:29:09 PM
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  [Chevelle-List] Car Poll...Favorite Year?
   yes, I do have to admit, I love chargers - favorite 
  year is 1968 440. Im afan of many cars but chevelles are my MOST 
  favorite..
  

  


  
  
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[Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02

[396guy]

When's the coverage of CB02 going to appear?  Nov/Dec issue?

Dale McIntosh
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
67 SS/67 Elky
http://www.dalesplace.com
http://www.team67.com
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[Chevelle-List] Chevelle owner's list

[396guy]

I did a list of Chevelle owners some time back 
and posted it at http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/owners/owners.htm.  
It hasn't been updated in a while but if anyone wants to email me offline (there 
is a link on that page), I'd be happy to add their name, email address, web 
address, association info, etc.  Take a look at what's there and you'll get 
the idea.
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
  JDHallSent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:57 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Homework for 
  Chad
  Chad,
    There has been a unbelievable wealth of 
  information that has been posted in the last couple of weeks.Not to mention 
  the last two days due to you questions. I personally have learned allot 
  reading the responses. If there is a way you could compile all the info into 
  an article so to speak I'm sure someone on this list would publish it on there 
  site. Maybe a timeline article with pictures of the different models. I 
  will even post it myself if no one is  interested. I'm a past 
  webmaster and still have some domain credits to my account. This is just a 
  suggestion. I think it would be really neat to see something like this come 
  from a young chevellion as yourself.
   
  Regards 
  JDHall
  
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From: 
Chad 
Playso 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:33 
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Car 
Poll...Favorite Year?

no problem.  when I post results 
tommorrow, I'm pretty much going to post year favorites and I'm not going to 
post style favorites because everyone likes different styles for that 
year (so it would be pretty much pointless to post that).  however, I 
like hearing youse guys opinions on which is favorite and which is 
not.  Have fun
        
                
                
                
            Chad

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rob 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Car 
  Poll...Favorite Year?
  
  hey 
Chad,
    Put me down 
  for a '70...
  and put an X in 
  the  box for the LS-6 and 4spd options 
   
   
    
   
  Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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From: 
Chad Playso 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:02 
PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Car 
Poll...Favorite Year?

Could you guys just tell me what is your 
favorite year and what style (SS 396, LS-6, L-78, 
etc...)???
 
- 1964
- 1965
- 1966
- 1967
- 1968
- 1969
- 1970
- 1971
- 1972
 
PS - I will post the percentages of the 
favored chevelles after everyone states their fav. year and style.  
Also, please...no conflicts between members on which chevelle is better 
than the other.
 
        
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
CHAD

RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.

[396guy]

Being the skeptical and show me the proof type, I got 
involved with a thread on Team Chevelle.  http://www.chevelles.com/forum/Forum29/HTML/001832.html  
The Popular Mechanics web site (http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_coll_vintage/1999/4/65_chevelle/) 
said one was built for Bunkie Knudsen although GM claims ALL were hardtops and 
only 200 of those made.  Anyway, the TC thread has a gentleman who claimed 
to have owned the car and bought it used through the GM Tech Center and was 
triple Gold and not Red, Black or Yellow.  No dealer records, no insurance 
records, no state vehicle registration records exist so far.  Like FOX 
News, I just report it, you decide.
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wayne 
  KlineSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:02 PMTo: 
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  Conv.
  The Z-16 conv. myth has been circulating for 
  along time. I veiw it the same as Big Foot. They my have fabed up one in the 
  engineering/reaserch dept. just like they did a 4 wheel drive El-Camino. but 
  the only thing the 4X4 El-Camino saw was the big blue torch. Being the Z-16 
  conv has not sown up in 37 years ,  I am willling to bet dollars to 
  dounuts,  that if they proto-typed a 65 BB Z-16 type conv it meet 
  the same  scrap heap fate
  
 

RE: [Chevelle-List] Car Poll...Favorite Year?

[396guy]

Unfortunately it's not on the ones you send though 
Larry.  In fact, sometimes it's difficult to understand who or what you're 
replying to sometimes as there is no thread. :*)
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry 
  BrownSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:55 PMTo: 
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  Poll...Favorite Year?
  Guess I am special.. on the bottom of all 
  mine.
   
  Larry

RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.

[396guy]

Maybe Mark's reply is coming with the next issue of the 
NCOA magazine?  LOL!
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent 
  LewisSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:18 PMTo: 
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  Conv.
    In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 
  convertible ever existing, I remember reading a letter that was sent in to the 
  read forum of one of the many magazines that I subscribe to.  The 
  letter asked if there was ever a "...160 mph speedometer that was factory 
  installed in a '65 Chevelle ?  The letter went on to say "The 
  reason I ask is that about six months ago while looking through a junkyard, I 
  came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I noticed it had a 160 mph 
  speedometer."  The editor's response was that there was supposedly 
  one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found.  And that Mark 
  Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association would be in 
  contact with the author of the letter.  
    That letter was written a number of years ago.  
  And I have never heard another word about it.  Perhaps it was a dead end 
  ?  Just thought I would share that story for those who have not heard 
  about it.
   
  Kent
  '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)
  ACES #5102