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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks Dale. I think mine is a wide ratio Muncie as well. Although I haven't checked the numbers on it yet, from the input shaft it looks like an M-20. My car is still an auto with the TH400, but I'm doing the conversion to a 4spd. Haven't really gotten that started yet..still collecting parts, but it sounds like I might be able to stick with the rear gear I have. I think it's somewhere in the 2.79-3.07 neighborhood. My Malibu was a grocery-getter from the factory. I think it started life as a 350 2 barrel?, TH350 auto and was gold exterior with a black vinyl top. Now it's a 396/TH400, soon to be 4spd, primer gray and I tore off the vinyl roof to repair some rust. As many of you have said, this car is taking much more time and money then first planned, but Oh Well! I love the beast! Matt At 06:45 PM 1/24/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Matt, > >The 396 has gobs of low end torque and for normal, everyday driving I >haven't found the higher gear to be detrimental at all. I ran a 2.79 gear >for about 11 years and only went to the "lower" 3.07's because I wanted a 67 >rear end again (previous was a wider 68> rear) and that's what I happen to >find first. I have a wide ratio Muncie (2.52 1st gear) which helps a bit as >well. > >I'm looking at going to a 700R4 for a couple of reasons. (1) I'm getting >lazy and would like to be able to drink a cup of coffee on the way to work >:*). (2) Since 9/11 it takes anywhere from 20-40 minutes to get on the army >base I work at due to security checks and the constant stop-start in a two >block long line is getting old fast. (3) I run about 3000 rpm at 75 now and >with the overdrive I can knock that down to around 2000/2100 range for >better mileage and less wear and tear on the engine. I generally make three >or four fairly long trips a year to car shows from 150 miles to 800+ miles >each way and I could use the mileage. > >Dale McIntosh >ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold >67 SS/67 Elky >http://www.dalesplace.com >http://www.team67.com >http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > > > > > Thanks Dale. Sounds like is was thinking about a little too much > > gear, at > > least for highway cruising. Seems like the 3.07 or maybe a 3.23 would be > > better for me. > > > > Thanks, > > Matt > > '69 Malibu collecting dust :( > > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The Corvette Forum is probably the largest internet site for these cars. I spend waaay too much time on there,myself. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: Brad Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If you want to join the VetteNet email list, go here: > http://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=vettes&A=1 > > There is also another site to check out called the Corvette Forum: > http://www.corvetteforum.com > > Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs > '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brake - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Out of curiosity, anyone know what the list of stock gear ratios that will fit in a series 2 carrier without a spacer? (and with a spacer?). Jim -69-SS396-with-2.73-gears- H. On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:08:39 -0800 "Brad Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios -- 12 bolts and > spacers > > > > brad knows about corvettes?? > > send me your e- mail address please if you are open for > questions! > > OK, since I seem to be so popular lately, I've modified my signature > to > include my email address! I do know a bit about (older: 63-67) > Corvettes, but I'm not close to the most knowledgeable person. > There is > a list just like this one called the VetteNet. The VetteNet is the > email > list for discussions relating to all years and models of Corvettes. > The > site is at http://vettenet.org > > If you want to join the VetteNet email list, go here: > http://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=vettes&A=1 > > There is also another site to check out called the Corvette Forum: > http://www.corvetteforum.com > > Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 > BFGs > '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brake > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios -- 12 bolts and spacers > > brad knows about corvettes?? > send me your e- mail address please if you are open for questions! OK, since I seem to be so popular lately, I've modified my signature to include my email address! I do know a bit about (older: 63-67) Corvettes, but I'm not close to the most knowledgeable person. There is a list just like this one called the VetteNet. The VetteNet is the email list for discussions relating to all years and models of Corvettes. The site is at http://vettenet.org If you want to join the VetteNet email list, go here: http://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=vettes&A=1 There is also another site to check out called the Corvette Forum: http://www.corvetteforum.com Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brake - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Matt, The 396 has gobs of low end torque and for normal, everyday driving I haven't found the higher gear to be detrimental at all. I ran a 2.79 gear for about 11 years and only went to the "lower" 3.07's because I wanted a 67 rear end again (previous was a wider 68> rear) and that's what I happen to find first. I have a wide ratio Muncie (2.52 1st gear) which helps a bit as well. I'm looking at going to a 700R4 for a couple of reasons. (1) I'm getting lazy and would like to be able to drink a cup of coffee on the way to work :*). (2) Since 9/11 it takes anywhere from 20-40 minutes to get on the army base I work at due to security checks and the constant stop-start in a two block long line is getting old fast. (3) I run about 3000 rpm at 75 now and with the overdrive I can knock that down to around 2000/2100 range for better mileage and less wear and tear on the engine. I generally make three or four fairly long trips a year to car shows from 150 miles to 800+ miles each way and I could use the mileage. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > Thanks Dale. Sounds like is was thinking about a little too much > gear, at > least for highway cruising. Seems like the 3.07 or maybe a 3.23 would be > better for me. > > Thanks, > Matt > '69 Malibu collecting dust :( > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Clint: yes it is but 4l80e has all kinds of weird electronics you have to buy a special harness to convert it and also the convertor has some sort of lockup wiring (not sure what). Big money part of doing the 4l80e was having transmission guy rebuilt it. Also the core alone was 800-1000. Also tail shaft has to be changed so Speedo will hook up as 4l80e has electronic Speedo. Larry
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Guess that got me informed,Larry. But to be fair,either set-up would require rewiring(the Gear Vendors is electric,too)and both driveshafts would require shortening. I really didn't realize 4L80 set-ups were so danged expensive. No wonder,no one is running one. Clint HooperLT5 RegistryWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636 anytime'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952TX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint: last year i looked into the 4l80e (i have one in my 98 GMC 3500 7.4) . by the time i got done it was over $4000.00, the floor needed to be modified, drive shaft redone, cross member moved, all kinds of wiring, the torque convertors are very limited, it weighs 100 lbs more than a th400 and you lose 50 more HP. the ring gear wasn't a suggestion, i said it could have been there if someone had changed the gears from 3 series. if it had had the spacer he wouldn't need it going down to 3 series. that is how i came up with the th 400 and Gear Vendor OD. larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks Dale. Sounds like is was thinking about a little too much gear, at least for highway cruising. Seems like the 3.07 or maybe a 3.23 would be better for me. Thanks, Matt '69 Malibu collecting dust :( At 08:02 PM 1/23/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Matt, > >I have a 396/4-speed and 3.07 gears. With my tires (27 inches tall), I'm >turning right at 2900/3000 at 75. > >Dale McIntosh >ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold >67 SS/67 Elky >http://www.dalesplace.com >http://www.team67.com >http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > > > > > Since we're on the subject, what do you guys suggest for a 396/4 speed > > combo? I was thinking 3.31 or 3.55. I would like to be able to drive on > > the highway for long distances occasionally. > > > > Thanks, > > Matt > > '69 Malibu > > > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What was your question? Larry
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Clint: last year i looked into the 4l80e (i have one in my 98 GMC 3500 7.4) . by the time i got done it was over $4000.00, the floor needed to be modified, drive shaft redone, cross member moved, all kinds of wiring, the torque convertors are very limited, it weighs 100 lbs more than a th400 and you lose 50 more HP. the ring gear wasn't a suggestion, i said it could have been there if someone had changed the gears from 3 series. if it had had the spacer he wouldn't need it going down to 3 series. that is how i came up with the th 400 and Gear Vendor OD. larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List put some bananas in it & sell it quick, this will stop the whine!! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I SAY PUT SOME 5;13 IN 'ER!
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List i wish i were tom or larry or clint so i could get anwsers to my questions - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Once a rear end starts to howl,it's toast about 99% of the time. Clint HooperLT5 RegistryWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636 anytime'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952TX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the only reason mine whines so loudly is because I didn;t set it up. i bought the rear done and just put it in the car. i should have taken it apart and checked it, but i didn;t, so now i'm paying for it now. The guy that did the rear set it up half ass b/c it was to be put in a drag car. I tried to fix it by setting the pinion depth where it was supposed to be and it made it worse. i put a 3.42 posi in my 86 Cutlass and its quiet as can be. Tom
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >383 set up for optimum torque, not horsepower. Torque is definitely what moves the car and is a real number, not a calculated one Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the only reason mine whines so loudly is because I didn;t set it up. i bought the rear done and just put it in the car. i should have taken it apart and checked it, but i didn;t, so now i'm paying for it now. The guy that did the rear set it up half ass b/c it was to be put in a drag car. I tried to fix it by setting the pinion depth where it was supposed to be and it made it worse. i put a 3.42 posi in my 86 Cutlass and its quiet as can be. Tom
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sounds like a sweet combination,Bob. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Guys, > This is a great discussion and confirms my choice in my 65 elky. I have a > 3.31 with a 700R4 behind a 383 set up for optimum torque, not horsepower. My > goal was a responsive highway flyer instead of a quarter horse. bob Myers NC. > The car will be finished in 1-2 months. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you have that kind of money to throw around,why not just install a built 4L80? All it is is a HD TH400 w/OD. Cheaper,strong,and less hassle. If it was my car,I wouldn't even go that far. If the car already had a TH400 installed,just install a set of 3.55's or something close. Add a decent torque converter and you're ready to go. For a pure street car,the difference between a 4.10 cog and a 3.55 is negligible,anyway. A big block can easily pull a tall gear and 28" tall tire. Ring gear spacers? In this day and age,I would not even consider using one. No offense,Larry. Clint HooperLT5 RegistryWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636 anytime'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952TX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tom has already told me his 4:10 have a 4 series carriers it was common practice to use a 3 series carrier with a ring spacer when going to 4 series gears. his does not have that so he will have to change. my suggestion offline (tom and i are really good buddies in spite the fact we live on opposite coasts) to tom was to keep the th400, fix the gears (the reason he is changing them is they are howling) and put a gear vendor over drive in. the gears are shot any old way you look at i so figure them a wash. i say to change over to 700r4 probably total is $1000.00 - 1250.00. to do the gear vendor you are looking at $2500.00. bottom line is you get for $1250.00 -1500.00 more a stronger transmission with a separate overdrive with six split speeds forward.the gear vendor is rated for 1200 HP. simply unbolt rear housing of th400 , bolt over drive on, shorten drive shaft and do a little wiring.you end up with a final drive of .75:1 Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List No,it's not normal for them to whine. If they do,then they were set-up poorly. The 4.10 Richmonds in my 68 Elky were as quiet as stock. My ZR-1 has 4.10 Dana Super 44's in it and they are totally silent,too. Ring & pinion set-up is becoming a lost art but that's no excuse to accept sub-standard work. The only rear end I owned that was supposed to make noise,was the Halibrand quick change in my 40 Ford coupe streetrod. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: Spencer, Darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Every 4-series gear I ever heard had a pretty good whine. I think that's > pretty normal. Especially the 4.30:1 F**d I once had under a '70 M*g > (when I was still over on the dark side). > > Darrell - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Guys, This is a great discussion and confirms my choice in my 65 elky. I have a 3.31 with a 700R4 behind a 383 set up for optimum torque, not horsepower. My goal was a responsive highway flyer instead of a quarter horse. bob Myers NC. The car will be finished in 1-2 months. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Matt, I have a 396/4-speed and 3.07 gears. With my tires (27 inches tall), I'm turning right at 2900/3000 at 75. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > Since we're on the subject, what do you guys suggest for a 396/4 speed > combo? I was thinking 3.31 or 3.55. I would like to be able to drive on > the highway for long distances occasionally. > > Thanks, > Matt > '69 Malibu > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I have a 2.73 rear behind my small block and 700R4, and I can tell I need more. I do get about 24 mpg cruising on the highway, but I have been planning to upgrade to a mid-3 series gear as well. 3.31 is a 20% increase for me and was likely what I was thinking of as this get very close to the "optimal" factor I have seen where they say divide 10 by first gear ratio and you have a good rear ratio (10/3.06=3.27). But with the large step between first (3.06) and second (1.63) on the 700R4, it might be better to go to the high end of the scale: 3.06*2.73= 8.35 3.06*3.31=10.13 3.06*3.55=10.86 3.06*3.73=11.41 3.06*4.11=12.58 Also, I assume I need a new carrier. I thought that the 12 bolt mid range carrier took 3.07 to 3.90 gears, but I have also seen it listed as 3.73 and below, and 3.73 and up, so there seems to be confusion out there... Brad Waller '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > -Original Message- > From: Clint Hooper > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios > > Yes,you will need a new carrier,Rick. That's probably the > main reason I > never switched to 3.55's. > Clint Hooper > LT5 Registry > Wichita Falls,Tx > (940) 855-6636 anytime > '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 > TX TAGS: USA ZR1 > http://www.LT5Registry.com/ > - Original Message - > From: richard a schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I agree with Clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 > or 3.55 will > > work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with > 700r4 and 3.31, > > my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. > > Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you > need a new > > carrier? > > > > rick schaefer > > http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > > http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 05:47 PM 01/23/2002, you wrote: tom has already told me his 4:10 have a 4 series carriers it was common practice to use a 3 series carrier with a ring spacer when going to 4 series gears. his does not have that so he will have to change. my suggestion offline (tom and i are really good buddies in spite the fact we live on opposite coasts) to tom was to keep the th400, fix the gears (the reason he is changing them is they are howling) and put a gear vendor over drive in. the gears are shot any old way you look at i so figure them a wash. i say to change over to 700r4 probably total is $1000.00 - 1250.00. to do the gear vendor you are looking at $2500.00. bottom line is you get for $1250.00 -1500.00 more a stronger transmission with a separate overdrive with six split speeds forward.the gear vendor is rated for 1200 HP. simply unbolt rear housing of th400 , bolt over drive on, shorten drive shaft and do a little wiring.you end up with a final drive of .75:1 I sure like that idea vs the four speed auto. BTW the 700R4's are well over $1500 if bought new. Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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tom has already told me his 4:10 have a 4 series carriers it was common practice to use a 3 series carrier with a ring spacer when going to 4 series gears. his does not have that so he will have to change. my suggestion offline (tom and i are really good buddies in spite the fact we live on opposite coasts) to tom was to keep the th400, fix the gears (the reason he is changing them is they are howling) and put a gear vendor over drive in. the gears are shot any old way you look at i so figure them a wash. i say to change over to 700r4 probably total is $1000.00 - 1250.00. to do the gear vendor you are looking at $2500.00. bottom line is you get for $1250.00 -1500.00 more a stronger transmission with a separate overdrive with six split speeds forward.the gear vendor is rated for 1200 HP. simply unbolt rear housing of th400 , bolt over drive on, shorten drive shaft and do a little wiring.you end up with a final drive of .75:1 Larry
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Tom, my question with the used gears would be more if they're set up properly. I really see no problem with used gears. I put them in my 12 bolt and have had no problems. (Although the car has not seen a lot of road time!) Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's & TH400 & 28" > tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it gets > 15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little > more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot of > road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like ordering > a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used gears, > thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are > used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying > a done rear. > > Tom > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's & TH400 & 28" >tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it gets >15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little >more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot of >road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like ordering >a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used gears, >thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are >used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying >a done rear. OK here's the old hot rodder's take on rear axle ratios and trannys. Keep the TH-400 and get a 3.73 gear set. Why not do the four speed?. You could get your 400 rebuilt and shift kitted twice before you could pay for the 700granted the 700 is a very good tranny, but it may be more expensive in the long run if you race it much. I think it's best to be at or less than 3K when cruising the highways. The 3.42 10 bolt is what all the G-body guys strive for, but If I could change my 3.08 tomorrow, I'd go 3.73. I drive the freeways about 40 miles a day and cruising at 80 runs 3k on the tach. Mileage? Who cares, I didn't buy my car to get good mileage, that's what "TowRopers" are for:) Kelly C. Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Every 4-series gear I ever heard had a pretty good whine. I think that's pretty normal. Especially the 4.30:1 F**d I once had under a '70 M*g (when I was still over on the dark side). Darrell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 January, 2002 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios * * * The 4.10's in it are used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying a done rear. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hi, For 12 bolt C axle I know that Richmond makes two different sets of 3,73's one for the 3 series carrier and one for the 4 series carrier. They also make 4,88 4,56 4,10 3,90 to fit the 3 series carrier I don't think that you can go lower than 3,73 with the 4 series carrier. I installed this gears last summer behind a small block and a Muncie, it's a little bit short on the top end but it should be ok behind your possible 0,70 ratio on 4th gear which would make it a 2,61 André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of richard a schaefer Sent: 23. januar 2002 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End Ratios Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I agre with clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31, my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new carrier? rick schaefer http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:46:29 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I > need to > put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was > thinking of > dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to > be racing > it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do > drive it > down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also > tossing around > the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. > I'd > appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. > > Tom > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's & TH400 & 28" tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it gets 15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot of road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like ordering a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used gears, thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for buying a done rear. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List No you wouldnt as long as stay in the 3 series, i just went through it my self this past year i put back the original gear set that was in there when built which was 3.36.1 ratio was 373 ratio it has a m21, and going down the highway with 373 was tuff i would be winding the motor out more then i liked to to get to a cruisin speed thats why i went with the original i would have liked the 342 ratio but i couldnt get it cause i have a 10bolt rear Ken D. 72 HCC - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Tom I will have to agree with everyone that either a 3.31 or 3.55 gear would be great. Right now you could do the gears and then do the trans down the road. Valid point was brought up, what series carrier do you have now? If you are going to get the 3.31's you better start looking now as noone makes them new, you gotta reuse a GM set. On the note of the 700. Mom's car has 3.55's and just loves to cruise with the torque of the big block. Although we were all set to put a 3.31 in it when we found out the housing was an early one. So were just gonna save it for the 65 and stick with the gears she has now. We can talk about this more at the next meeting if ya want... later JJ On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need to > put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of > dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be racing > it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive it > down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing around > the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd > appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. > > Tom > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Yes,you will need a new carrier,Rick. That's probably the main reason I never switched to 3.55's. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 anytime '90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952 TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.com/ - Original Message - From: richard a schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I agree with Clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will > work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31, > my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. > Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new > carrier? > > rick schaefer > http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Since we're on the subject, what do you guys suggest for a 396/4 speed combo? I was thinking 3.31 or 3.55. I would like to be able to drive on the highway for long distances occasionally. Thanks, Matt '69 Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I agre with clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will work nicely, especially with an OD.I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31, my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better. Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new carrier? rick schaefer http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:46:29 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I > need to > put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was > thinking of > dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to > be racing > it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do > drive it > down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also > tossing around > the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. > I'd > appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. > > Tom > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List At 10:46 AM 01/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need to >put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of >dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be racing >it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive it >down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing around >the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd >appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo. > >Tom With that motor a 3.31 & 700R4 will boil the tires off & be great on the highway. [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
