Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 engine problems
-- Original message -- From: Russ Miesner [EMAIL PROTECTED] My nephew recently built a 72 shortbed 4X4 pickup. He put a 327 engine in it with some 305 heads to raise compression. I do not know any details about the engine build other than that. He called me and said his radiator hose is swelling up the size of a softball. He claims he is not overheating. I am sure the 327 is a Gen 1 and the heads are probably a Gen 2. Is there any Upper or lower hose? Just a WAG but is it possible he managed to put the thermostat in backwards? Brad
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Piston slap -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:36 PM To: Chevelle Group Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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Even if it's not chronic? That's the weird part. Jim --- Jim H. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Piston slap -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:36 PM To: Chevelle Group Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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Piston slap Normally caused by piston mist. :*)
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i had the same problem in my 67 it had a 283 and PG at the time, come to find out it was the torque converter bolts Bill Bradley 67 Chevelle Malibu 71 triumph Spitfire 82 Chevy 1/2 ton 06 dodge Caravan 82 Kawasaki KZ305CSR - Original Message - From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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Hi Jim, Let me start off by saying, you do have valve guides, maybe you meant to say you didn't have them replaced when the work was done on the heads? Either way, you have them. As for the noise, are you sure it's coming from the engine? Do you have a manual or auto trans? It could be something in the clutch and/or linkage that doesn't like that particular rpm and it rattles. Maybe something under the body/frame is very close to the engine/trans and at that rpm things move just enough to make contact. Food for thought. Herb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:36 PM To: Chevelle Group Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PMSubject: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionDrove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw thisquestion out to "the Council":My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake,speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam(272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly builtcamel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves havebeen redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000miles on them, and I have new valve springs andretainers (also Crane, to match the cam).All that being said, it runs great with one small petpeave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTILI get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I heara slight "chatter".That's the only way I candescribe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, andthat's not the noise- that's a chronic"tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my bestimpression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much fasterinterval, thus the chatter description.It soundslike it's on the driver side of the engine, andhappens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.Ithought maybe it might be something bumping thedipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved thedipstick and it still happens.I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back outto check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone haveany guesses?I do not have valve guides and Iwondered if it might be that I need them.Anothernote, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 camin it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as ofthis year.I thought maybe the disassembly andreassembly might make it go away (with readjustment ofthe valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it'slower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at thatrevolution?Thanks in advance,Jim'66 Malibu Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
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Thanks for the input Herb- I'm pretty sure it's engine-related, as I've put the car back together from scratch as you know, and I'd hoped to eliminate any of that hubub to avoid making you guys compensate for it 8^] As for the tranny, plain ole PG 2 speed automatic. It's the weirdest thing. --- Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, Let me start off by saying, you do have valve guides, maybe you meant to say you didn't have them replaced when the work was done on the heads? Either way, you have them. As for the noise, are you sure it's coming from the engine? Do you have a manual or auto trans? It could be something in the clutch and/or linkage that doesn't like that particular rpm and it rattles. Maybe something under the body/frame is very close to the engine/trans and at that rpm things move just enough to make contact. Food for thought. Herb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:36 PM To: Chevelle Group Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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I agree with Herb. If its a stick does the noise go away when you push the clutch in ? Throwout bearings can make all kind of little noises. Larry (Z)
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Yikes your answer came in between reading Herbs and sending mine. Larry (Z)
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No worries Larry, appreciate the help! Regards, Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes your answer came in between reading Herbs and sending mine. Larry (Z) Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
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It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately...- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionThat's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like awrist pin or piston slap to me.I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, onlywhen out on the road.Jim--- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it?I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see...I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap.My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to "the Council": My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight "chatter".That's the only way I can describe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic "tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description.It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone have any guesses?I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them.Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year.I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.http://new.mail.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
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Check your torque convertor bolts, that will also cause that type of noise.- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionThat's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like awrist pin or piston slap to me.I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, onlywhen out on the road.Jim--- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it?I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see...I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap.My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to "the Council": My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight "chatter".That's the only way I can describe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic "tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description.It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone have any guesses?I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them.Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year.I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!?Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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You know, that sounds logical actually- since I'm only hearing it when the car is moving. And I haven't been back to those bolts since the engine went in the car in '03. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check your torque convertor bolts, that will also cause that type of noise. - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
You would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at "certain" rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold...- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionOnly thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hearit continue at higher RPMs?That the part that'seatin me.Jim--- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well.Been thereTry adjusting the timing a few degrees.If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it?I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see...I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap.My $.02- Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 questionDrove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to "the Council":My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs.Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam).All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave..When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight "chatter".That's the only way I can describe it.I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic "tap-tap-tap-tap" (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes "dadadadadadada" in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description.It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs..I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away.I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens.I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating.Anyone have any guesses?I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them.Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year.I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise.But from where and why ONLY at that revolution?Thanks in advance,Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk?Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
Heat riser ??? Try to tie it up if you have one, see if noise goes away. Assuming you have one. gm66 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing iYou would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at certain rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Only thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hear it continue at higher RPMs? That the part that's eatin me. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
I actually don't have one in the car- running headers. Thanks for the suggestion though! Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heat riser ??? Try to tie it up if you have one, see if noise goes away. Assuming you have one. gm66 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing iYou would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at certain rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Only thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hear it continue at higher RPMs? That the part that's eatin me. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com === message
Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question
That's why I come to you guys 8^] Regards, Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would think that. By retarding the timing 2-3 degrees an exhaust leak would sound different. Weak springs on the centrifical advance in the distributor causing the timing to move at certain rpms??? Seen alot in my 25+ years of tinkering with over 350 cars bought and sold... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Only thing is, if it were lower end, wouldn't you hear it continue at higher RPMs? That the part that's eatin me. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could be an exhaust leak as well. Been there Try adjusting the timing a few degrees. If nothing changes it might be in the lower end unfortunately... - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:58:12 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 327 question That's exactly what I think it is Carl, sounds like a wrist pin or piston slap to me. I don't recall hearing it when in the driveway, only when out on the road. Jim --- Carl Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it only happen when under a load or can you sit there and rev it to hear it? I would try to retard the timing a bit to rule that out as well, just to see... I had lifters act like that as well on a 283, no clatter until a certain RPM, sounded like a rist pin or piston slap. My $.02 - Original Message From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Group chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:35:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 327 question Drove the '66 to work today, and decided to throw this question out to the Council: My car runs great, and the 327 has an aluminum intake, speed pro 10.5:1 pistons, crane powermax cam (272/284), Comp Cams roller rockers, and freshly built camel hump heads with pinned in studs. Valves have been redone within the past 2-3 years with MAYBE 1000 miles on them, and I have new valve springs and retainers (also Crane, to match the cam). All that being said, it runs great with one small pet peave.. When I drive the car it runs flawlessly UNTIL I get to 2000 RPMs on the tach, at which point I hear a slight chatter. That's the only way I can describe it. I've heard hung up lifters before, and that's not the noise- that's a chronic tap-tap-tap-tap (like 1-2-3-4). This, in my best impression, goes dadadadadadada in a much faster interval, thus the chatter description. It sounds like it's on the driver side of the engine, and happens ONLY at 2K RPMs.. I drop back, it goes away- I increase throttle PAST 2K RPMs, it goes away. I thought maybe it might be something bumping the dipstick or something stupid like that, so I moved the dipstick and it still happens. I don't think it's worth pulling the engine back out to check, but it's damned frustrating. Anyone have any guesses? I do not have valve guides and I wondered if it might be that I need them. Another note, I had the same noise when I had my 260/272 cam in it, which I just swapped out to the 272/284 as of this year. I thought maybe the disassembly and reassembly might make it go away (with readjustment of the valves), but it's still there so I'm guessing it's lower end noise. But from where and why ONLY at that revolution? Thanks in advance, Jim '66 Malibu Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. === message truncated
RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 oil breather question
Yep, I made sure I got another 327 intake that would show off the nostalgic filler tube 8^] That was a MUST for me.. And yes, the canister you mentioned is dead on with what I'm talking about. Thanks alot for the input! Regards, Jim '66 Malibu --- Brad Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't say 100% for sure, but I really doubt that any intake would interfere with the canister (that is the breather you are referring to, right?) at the back of the block above the cam. Does your '68 intake have an oil filler tube? Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 oil breather question I have a small glitch I would like to try to work around if possible- my 327 is from '67, and has an oil breather that is mounted under the intake manifold, over the cam. I don't have the original intake, and am using one from a '68 327. I don't have the heads on the motor yet, so I haven't been able to check, but will the '68 intake fit properly over the breather? I was told I could take the breather out if I'm using valve covers with breathers, but I was planning on using classic valve covers w/the 'Chevrolet' logo on them. Can anyone tell me if they have had this issue or if they know if the '68 intake will fit over the breather? Thanks, Jim '66 Malibu __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 oil breather question
Yes you can. When I bought my 67 Elky it had a later model cast iron intake and I replaced it with an Edelbrock - cannister fit fine in both instances. I have it plumbed into the air cleaner and use later model valve covers for oil filling. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 Elky Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 oil breather question I have a small glitch I would like to try to work around if possible- my 327 is from '67, and has an oil breather that is mounted under the intake manifold, over the cam. I don't have the original intake, and am using one from a '68 327. I don't have the heads on the motor yet, so I haven't been able to check, but will the '68 intake fit properly over the breather? I was told I could take the breather out if I'm using valve covers with breathers, but I was planning on using classic valve covers w/the 'Chevrolet' logo on them. Can anyone tell me if they have had this issue or if they know if the '68 intake will fit over the breather? Thanks, Jim '66 Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex)
The stock cam is .390/410 195/202. One of the popular aftermarket grinds is .420/443 204/214 and I see no reason why this wouldn't work in your 327. Brad I have a '67 275-hp 327 I'm desperately trying to get back together by Spring, and have a question about the cam and lifters. Let me start off by saying I know NOTHING about cams. I know how to replace them, but that's it. I need to get a new one for this motor, and wanted to know if I should pursue one diff from stock, and what my benefit would be if I went, say, the next step up from the stock cam. The engine is going into a '66 Chevelle w/auto trans, stock torque converter, stock double hump heads, stock intake, and stock carb for now. But, I didn't want to get the motor back together with a stock cam and lifters and have someone say Oh man, you should have beefed it up a little while you had it apart! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex)
Jim, I built a really sweet 327 about 15 to 18 years ago and I used a Crane Fireball cam. It had 455 lift on both intake and exhaust and I can't tell you what the duration was. But it ran really good with just a slight lope and it had plenty of low end umph. If you are going to drive this 327 a bunch, this or maybe the one that was suggested by someone else would put you in the ball park with something you would be happy with. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex) : Hey all, : : I have a '67 275-hp 327 I'm desperately trying to get : back together by Spring, and have a question about the : cam and lifters. : : Let me start off by saying I know NOTHING about cams. : I know how to replace them, but that's it. I need to : get a new one for this motor, and wanted to know if I : should pursue one diff from stock, and what my benefit : would be if I went, say, the next step up from the : stock cam. The engine is going into a '66 Chevelle : w/auto trans, stock torque converter, stock double : hump heads, stock intake, and stock carb for now. : But, I didn't want to get the motor back together with : a stock cam and lifters and have someone say Oh man, : you should have beefed it up a little while you had it : apart! : : Any help would be greatly appreciated, and any : particular brand recommendations would be great as : well! : : Regards, : : Jim : '66 Malibu : : __ : Do you Yahoo!? : Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. : http://mailplus.yahoo.com : : - : To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html : To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex)
i believe the duration on that fireball cam was 228. or was that the comp cam with the same lift?h -Original Message- From: Danny Wilsher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex) Jim, I built a really sweet 327 about 15 to 18 years ago and I used a Crane Fireball cam. It had 455 lift on both intake and exhaust and I can't tell you what the duration was. But it ran really good with just a slight lope and it had plenty of low end umph. If you are going to drive this 327 a bunch, this or maybe the one that was suggested by someone else would put you in the ball park with something you would be happy with. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex) : Hey all, : : I have a '67 275-hp 327 I'm desperately trying to get : back together by Spring, and have a question about the : cam and lifters. : : Let me start off by saying I know NOTHING about cams. : I know how to replace them, but that's it. I need to : get a new one for this motor, and wanted to know if I : should pursue one diff from stock, and what my benefit : would be if I went, say, the next step up from the : stock cam. The engine is going into a '66 Chevelle : w/auto trans, stock torque converter, stock double : hump heads, stock intake, and stock carb for now. : But, I didn't want to get the motor back together with : a stock cam and lifters and have someone say Oh man, : you should have beefed it up a little while you had it : apart! : : Any help would be greatly appreciated, and any : particular brand recommendations would be great as : well! : : Regards, : : Jim : '66 Malibu : : __ : Do you Yahoo!? : Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. : http://mailplus.yahoo.com : : - : To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html : To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex)
You gonna run headers or have plans for a rpm intake? If you are running headers, and plan a few more mods in the future Iwould go with a dual grind cam that will aid a bit in clearing the exhaust out, but you need to be carefully with your lobe profiles. I like the Comp Cam lines a bit over the Cranes, but either a CC Dual or XE (more aggressive lift numbers and profiles... sometimes experience a louder valve noise then other cams) grind will work with minimal difference from a Crane Powermax. Something like their 260 grind should work well for all around performance. Shoot out some more info on the above questions and the ones below and I will try and help you out. -What compression ratio are you running? -What octane level of gas do you want to run? -what gears you running? Keep in mind you can select a cam and also install it retarded or advanced a bit to move your torque peak. Advancing it will take your torque peak down about 200 rpm from the stock grind. Overlap will be a key issue for idle and power... as will your selections lsa. A wider lsa (112)will provide a larger powerband generally and overlap will determine your idle andDYNAMIC compression ratio (which determines the gasyou can run and power... aim for 8to1)If you want to keep it simple I would go with a 260 type dual pattern cam... You may want to invest in a 2 piece timing cover so you can change the cam position easilyif so desired. Desktop dyno is also a goodESTIMATOR of what retarding or advancing a cam will do. Overall the right cam can be tricky to pick out... may people just pick a grind in a couple minutes... others take hours computing numbers and scenarios... you can probably guess who is the guy that is saying "Joe has the same combo as me, but his car is so much faster and runs out so much better then mine... What gives?" Mikey- Original Message - From: Mabs, Kenneth Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:56 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex) i believe the duration on that fireball cam was 228. or was that the compcam with the same lift?h-Original Message-From: Danny Wilsher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:10 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex)Jim, I built a really sweet 327 about 15 to 18 years ago and I used a CraneFireball cam. It had 455 lift on both intake and exhaust and I can't tellyou what the duration was. But it ran really good with just a slight lopeand it had plenty of low end umph. If you are going to drive this 327 abunch, this or maybe the one that was suggested by someone else would putyou in the ball park with something you would be happy with.Ðäññÿ ..- Original Message -From: "J. Brady" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:06 AMSubject: [Chevelle-List] 327 cam question (nothing complex): Hey all,:: I have a '67 275-hp 327 I'm desperately trying to get: back together by Spring, and have a question about the: cam and lifters.:: Let me start off by saying I know NOTHING about cams.: I know how to replace them, but that's it. I need to: get a new one for this motor, and wanted to know if I: should pursue one diff from stock, and what my benefit: would be if I went, say, the next step up from the: stock cam. The engine is going into a '66 Chevelle: w/auto trans, stock torque converter, stock double: hump heads, stock intake, and stock carb for now.: But, I didn't want to get the motor back together with: a stock cam and lifters and have someone say "Oh man,: you should have beefed it up a little while you had it: apart!":: Any help would be greatly appreciated, and any: particular brand recommendations would be great as: well!:: Regards,:: Jim: '66 Malibu:: __: Do you Yahoo!?: Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.: http://mailplus.yahoo.com:: -: To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html: To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andre: I do believe that the large journal crank wasn't until 68. I will check later today. Larry (Z)
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ok thanks ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 Andre: I do believe that the large journal crank wasn't until 68. I will check later today. Larry (Z)
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Correct. Don Andre: I do believe that the large journal crank wasn't until 68. I will check later today. Larry (Z)
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ok thanks everybody, I'll se what the auction ends at and eventually get it. Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Don To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 Correct. Don Andre: I do believe that the large journal crank wasn't until 68. I will check later today. Larry (Z)
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Hi, I've found a 327 on ebay in germany, the block number is 3782870 and mortec states it as a 62/67 2 bolt 327. can anybody tell me if its small or big journal rods and mains =? thanks ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Control arms for 66 Elky, what think? What does the list think of these control arms? http://www.bmrfabrication.com/A-Body.htm - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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small journal. All 67 earlier (exc. 67 350) are small journal. From: Tigergutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:44:41 +0100 Hi, I've found a 327 on ebay in germany, the block number is 3782870 and mortec states it as a 62/67 2 bolt 327. can anybody tell me if its small or big journal rods and mains =? thanks ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Control arms for 66 Elky, what think? What does the list think of these control arms? http://www.bmrfabrication.com/A-Body.htm - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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THanks Glenn, are the mains smaller or is it only the rods ?? thanks Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: GLENN BAILEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 small journal. All 67 earlier (exc. 67 350) are small journal. From: Tigergutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:44:41 +0100 Hi, I've found a 327 on ebay in germany, the block number is 3782870 and mortec states it as a 62/67 2 bolt 327. can anybody tell me if its small or big journal rods and mains =? thanks ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Control arms for 66 Elky, what think? What does the list think of these control arms? http://www.bmrfabrication.com/A-Body.htm - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324D I=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3 mf - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts
Paul, Modern Chevrolet in NC has the following listed in their Classic Muscle Catalog: Frame Bracket 64-67 SB - LH/RH Set (correct) PN 38407556 $99.95 set Give them a call at 1-800-722-4828. I've used them before, and have had no problems, and in their catalog they list some parts that I have not seen anywhere else. Bob - Original Message - From: Dave Studly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Paul, Did you try a couple of your local Chevy dealers? I'd try the bigger and/or older dealers first, and then maybe a place like Scoggy-Dicken, or one of the other GM outlets for the crate engines. You said you called some-- I'm not sure if you called GM places or not. The engine mounts (not frame mounts) should be pretty easy to find. I bought some for my '70 and '72 at the local parts stores. I can find the part numbers, if you wish. Let me know. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Thanks Brad, I exhausted all your information here and have no leads. How come you just can't buy 327 motor mounts and frame stands for a 1964 Chevy Chevelle. I even went so far as too call a few high performance small block replacement crate type engine suppliers and ask them how I could bolt them to my car. The best answer I got was they're out there. I would love anymore ideas someone could pass along. Paul - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts You are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go in. I found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but this was a long time ago so it might have been less. I Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9) listed as EFB667S$99.001966-67 S/B Engine Frame Mounts pr So I would think that there would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if this has been discussed as well. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I be sure they will work in a 64? I am also wondering about linkage for the 350 transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one that works well? overday Paul - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks Bob, I tried their site and the catalog won't load correctly. I called and was told they are reproductions. I may have to go their way. What kind of mounts are these folks with BB's and tons of horsepower using and where are they purchasing them. I find it hard to imagine that they are using the simple metal frame mounts that were stock, that I am seeing. Paul - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Paul, Modern Chevrolet in NC has the following listed in their Classic Muscle Catalog: Frame Bracket 64-67 SB - LH/RH Set (correct) PN 38407556 $99.95 set Give them a call at 1-800-722-4828. I've used them before, and have had no problems, and in their catalog they list some parts that I have not seen anywhere else. Bob - Original Message - From: Dave Studly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Paul, Did you try a couple of your local Chevy dealers? I'd try the bigger and/or older dealers first, and then maybe a place like Scoggy-Dicken, or one of the other GM outlets for the crate engines. You said you called some-- I'm not sure if you called GM places or not. The engine mounts (not frame mounts) should be pretty easy to find. I bought some for my '70 and '72 at the local parts stores. I can find the part numbers, if you wish. Let me know. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Thanks Brad, I exhausted all your information here and have no leads. How come you just can't buy 327 motor mounts and frame stands for a 1964 Chevy Chevelle. I even went so far as too call a few high performance small block replacement crate type engine suppliers and ask them how I could bolt them to my car. The best answer I got was they're out there. I would love anymore ideas someone could pass along. Paul - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts You are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go in. I found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but this was a long time ago so it might have been less. I Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9) listed as EFB667S$99.001966-67 S/B Engine Frame Mounts pr So I would think that there would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if this has been discussed as well. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I be sure they will work in a 64? I am also wondering about linkage for the 350 transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one that works well? overday Paul - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts
Paul, Did you try a couple of your local Chevy dealers? I'd try the bigger and/or older dealers first, and then maybe a place like Scoggy-Dicken, or one of the other GM outlets for the crate engines. You said you called some-- I'm not sure if you called GM places or not. The engine mounts (not frame mounts) should be pretty easy to find. I bought some for my '70 and '72 at the local parts stores. I can find the part numbers, if you wish. Let me know. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Thanks Brad, I exhausted all your information here and have no leads. How come you just can't buy 327 motor mounts and frame stands for a 1964 Chevy Chevelle. I even went so far as too call a few high performance small block replacement crate type engine suppliers and ask them how I could bolt them to my car. The best answer I got was they're out there. I would love anymore ideas someone could pass along. Paul - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts You are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go in. I found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but this was a long time ago so it might have been less. I Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9) listed as EFB667S$99.001966-67 S/B Engine Frame Mounts pr So I would think that there would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if this has been discussed as well. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I be sure they will work in a 64? I am also wondering about linkage for the 350 transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one that works well? overday Paul - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you don't mind aftermarket polyurethane mounts, check out http://www.energysuspension.com/prod1.html. They're stiffer than rubber but far more flexible than solid mounts. Brad O. I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I be sure they will work in a 64? Paul Get the award winning ISP, ATT WorldNet Service http://download.att.net/webtag - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: Message You are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go in. I found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but this was a long time ago so it might have been less. I Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9) listed as EFB667S $99.00 1966-67 S/B Engine Frame Mounts pr So I would think that there would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if this has been discussed as well. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pabloSent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I besure they will work in a 64? I am also wondering about linkage for the 350 transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one that works well? overday Paul
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Hi Brad, Thanks I looked at that site. They said to measure my mounts to determine which replacement mounts I needed. I can't do that because I am not looking to replace mounts, I am looking to find the correct mounts for the 327 and frame ( as well as the transmission hardware). Then it also says on their site that two are required. I am think four . Two for the frame, and two for the block. What am I missing ? overday. Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts If you don't mind aftermarket polyurethane mounts, check out http://www.energysuspension.com/prod1.html. They're stiffer than rubber but far more flexible than solid mounts. Brad O. I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I be sure they will work in a 64? Paul Get the award winning ISP, ATT WorldNet Service http://download.att.net/webtag - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: Message Thanks Brad, I exhausted all your information here and have no leads. How come you just can't buy 327 motor mounts and frame stands for a 1964 Chevy Chevelle. I even went so far as too call a few high performance small block replacement crate type engine suppliers and ask them how I could bolt them to my car. The best answer I got was "they're out there". I would love anymore ideas someone could pass along. Paul - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts You are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go in. I found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but this was a long time ago so it might have been less. I Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9) listed as EFB667S $99.00 1966-67 S/B Engine Frame Mounts pr So I would think that there would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if this has been discussed as well. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pabloSent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I besure they will work in a 64? I am also wondering about linkage for the 350 transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one that works well? overday Paul
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Title: Message
Whelp,Just an Idea but,you could try a interchange
manual?Find out what other years used the same mount and go from there...Someone
on this list is bound to have one( Manual ).I went to AutoZone today and they
didn't have 69 chevelle motor mounts in there computer or their books,just like
NAPA...the earliest date was a 70 chevelle,so I got those.Should be the same
onesJack
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mounts
Thanks Brad,
I exhausted all your information here and have no
leads. How come you just can't buy 327 motor mounts and frame stands for
a 1964 Chevy Chevelle.
I even went so far as too call a few high
performance small block replacement crate type engine suppliers and ask them
how I could bolt them to my car. The best answer I got was "they're out
there".
I would love anymore ideas someone could pass
along.
Paul
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Brad Waller
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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:34
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor
mounts
You
are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame
stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor
mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor
mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from
the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go
in.
I
found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the
larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but
this was a long time ago so it might have been less.
I
Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9)
listed as
EFB667S
$99.00
1966-67 S/B Engine
Frame Mounts pr
So I would think that there
would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling
Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can
use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if
this has been discussed as well.
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood
Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4
| '79 F-Body Brakes
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mounts
I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder
and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327
in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no
one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine
block) And how can I besure they will work in a 64?
I am also wondering about linkage for the 350
transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link
up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe
a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one
that works well? overday
Paul
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 Question
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Did you verify that the timing mark on the damper is accurate? It's not unheard of for the rubber to weaken and allow the outer ring to slip in relation to the inner hub. Brad Rhonda Stalker wrote: My son installed an Edelbrock high prof. cam, high prof valve springs, Edelbrock timing gears and chain, Crane roller rockers, and crane push rods. He already has an edelbrock manifold and Hei ignition. We rolled back the crank to 5 degrees before TDC and then dropped the distributor (as edelbrock instructed). We have set the valve lash 3 times now and dropped in the distributor twice. the darn thing doesn't seem to time up right. Lots of power but runs like shit, misses and pings. Any Ideas??? We've been told the crane rockers and push rods are compatible with the Edelbrock cam but I'm getting a little concerned about the clearance. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 Question
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Check for vacuum leaks. I've had more than one motor that I was sure I assembled right suck air from somewhere. First I check vacuum lines, then I listen for telltale whistles while the engine is running. If I can't locate something that way I'll use a propane torch. I open the valve slightly and pass the nozzle around the base of the carburetor or around the edges of the intake manifold where it meets the heads. If you get the nozzle close to where a vacuum leak is it sucks in the propane and the engine smooths out. Just remember, you are using a flammable gas. Make sure you don't have a spark plug wire arcing somewhere first and do it in a very well ventilated area..like outside. There's no need to get too close to the distributor. There's nothing there that would be a vacuum leak anyway Spraying carburetor cleaner around the base of the carb and around the intake manifold will achieve the same results but carb cleaner is one of the best paint removers I've ever seen. Bill Vander Werf Rhonda Stalker wrote: the darn thing doesn't seem to time up right. Lots of power but runs like shit, misses and pings. Any Ideas??? We've been told the crane rockers and push rods are compatible with the Edelbrock cam but I'm getting a little concerned about the clearance. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
Thank You for the info. Here's the casting Numbers off the heads.Any further info would be greatly appreciated. Both heads "Made en Mexico"- #1 - cast #3998093 (other codes on the head are 90-135-GM8). #2 - cast #98417369 (other codes on the head are 97-014C-GM13). He was told they were from a 91, 350. - Original Message - From: Rob To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350 sounds like a good kid ya got there Rhonda, chances are he'll have ta get a differnt intake manifold as the center bolts are at a different angle. Have you'r son get the casting #'s off the heads and then post them on the list and somebody will pop-up with all the spec's about them he'll need ta know. Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rhonda Stalker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350 Hi all, My son just got a really good deal on some heads for his 66 chevelleand wants me to help him with them. Question: he has the original 1966 327 motor. He picked up rebuilt heads from a 1991 350 motor. Looks like they will bolt up no problem. I know Fords 360 and 390 motors are the same motor just different stroke.Is that the same deal with the Chevy 327 and 350? Were thereany design changes to the headsduring those 25yrs to accommodate smog equipmentthatI shouldknow about?. and will they run Goodon the 327 block or vise versa?? He's put in a new Cam,lifters, push rods, HEI ignition, headers, 4 barrel Edlebrock, and High performance manifold. (He's been really good about saving andstoring all the original parts - so that's not a problem). Hedoes plan on storing the327 heads until the lower end needswork anddoing a complete out of car rebuild. The car is running great right now - it just has an elusive top end tick that's driving him crazy and he's tired of looking for lead additives whenever he fills the tank. Any help would be appreciated, Rhonda Stalker San Diego, Ca
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
Rhonda: 1) Why would numbers be different? 2) Are you sure the numbers are right? I Found a #399899372-73...307/350..75cc chambers maybe the #3998093 is wrong? 3) i found a #33417369 33417369...90-up...350..Gen.I Goodwrench crate motor,"Hecho en Mexico", 76cc maybe the #98417369 isn't right 4) I don't think the heads are the same. 5) If he has the 327 heads off why not have them redone? If he is just putting later model heads on cuz they newer it ain't worth it. Does he really know what shape they are in? 6) I'd stick with the 327 heads Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
agree with Larry whole heartedly(# mix-up is very common due ta casting flaws)(and if the 327 heads are off, have them rebulit with hardened seats and no more additive worrys+better performance) Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350 Rhonda: 1) Why would numbers be different? 2) Are you sure the numbers are right? I Found a #399899372-73...307/350..75cc chambers maybe the #3998093 is wrong? 3) i found a #33417369 33417369...90-up...350..Gen.I Goodwrench crate motor,"Hecho en Mexico", 76cc maybe the #98417369 isn't right 4) I don't think the heads are the same. 5) If he has the 327 heads off why not have them redone? If he is just putting later model heads on cuz they newer it ain't worth it. Does he really know what shape they are in? 6) I'd stick with the 327 heads Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
Larry and Rob, Thank you so much for the helpful info. It confirmed what I was thinking and saved us some major head aches. Thank you again, Rhonda - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350 Rhonda: 1) Why would numbers be different? 2) Are you sure the numbers are right? I Found a #399899372-73...307/350..75cc chambers maybe the #3998093 is wrong? 3) i found a #33417369 33417369...90-up...350..Gen.I Goodwrench crate motor,"Hecho en Mexico", 76cc maybe the #98417369 isn't right 4) I don't think the heads are the same. 5) If he has the 327 heads off why not have them redone? If he is just putting later model heads on cuz they newer it ain't worth it. Does he really know what shape they are in? 6) I'd stick with the 327 heads Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
Rhonda: anytime thats what we all are in here for. Several times I have been helped out. Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:02:18 -0800 Rhonda Stalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hi all, My son just got a really good deal on some heads for his 66 chevelle and wants me to help him with them. Question: he has the original 1966 327 motor. He picked up rebuilt heads from a 1991 350 motor. Looks like they will bolt up no problem. I know Fords 360 and 390 motors are the same motor just different stroke. Is that the same deal with the Chevy 327 and 350? Basically yes they are the same. BUT . About 1987 chevy changed the arrangement of the bolts that hold the intake manifold to the heads. In order to make the 327 intake manifold work it will need enlargement of the center bolt holes. I'm not sure of how much or how precise this needs to be. I don't know if this is a D-I-Y project or not. You may want to check with the shop that sold the manifold or an automotive machine shop. I BELIEVE that the bolt angle is only slightly different, but don't know first hand. Were there any design changes to the heads during those 25yrs to accommodate smog equipment that I should know about ?. and will they run Good on the 327 block or vise versa?? The 350 heads MAY have larger combustion chambers than the 327 heads. If so, it will lower the compression. It may only be a slight amount and not be noticeable in the seat of your pants. On the other hand it may be quite a bit and cause you to lose a significant amount of power. Sorry I can't be exact, but you should be able to find definite answers either locally or from this list or the NET Sounds like you can be proud of your son. rick schaefer 72 El Camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html TPI 350-700r4 http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L Team Chevelle # 0038 ACES #0140 He's put in a new Cam, lifters, push rods, HEI ignition, headers, 4 barrel Edlebrock, and High performance manifold. (He's been really good about saving and storing all the original parts - so that's not a problem). He does plan on storing the 327 heads until the lower end needs work and doing a complete out of car rebuild. The car is running great right now - it just has an elusive top end tick that's driving him crazy and he's tired of looking for lead additives whenever he fills the tank. Any help would be appreciated, Rhonda Stalker San Diego, Ca - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350
sounds like a good kid ya got there Rhonda, chances are he'll have ta get a differnt intake manifold as the center bolts are at a different angle. Have you'r son get the casting #'s off the heads and then post them on the list and somebody will pop-up with all the spec's about them he'll need ta know. Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rhonda Stalker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 / 350 Hi all, My son just got a really good deal on some heads for his 66 chevelleand wants me to help him with them. Question: he has the original 1966 327 motor. He picked up rebuilt heads from a 1991 350 motor. Looks like they will bolt up no problem. I know Fords 360 and 390 motors are the same motor just different stroke.Is that the same deal with the Chevy 327 and 350? Were thereany design changes to the headsduring those 25yrs to accommodate smog equipmentthatI shouldknow about?. and will they run Goodon the 327 block or vise versa?? He's put in a new Cam,lifters, push rods, HEI ignition, headers, 4 barrel Edlebrock, and High performance manifold. (He's been really good about saving andstoring all the original parts - so that's not a problem). Hedoes plan on storing the327 heads until the lower end needswork anddoing a complete out of car rebuild. The car is running great right now - it just has an elusive top end tick that's driving him crazy and he's tired of looking for lead additives whenever he fills the tank. Any help would be appreciated, Rhonda Stalker San Diego, Ca
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List From what I have, the block is a 1964-67 Chevelle, 1965-67 Full size, or 1967 Camaro use. The HC is for an Impala, 275HP, Powerglide, with AIR The info is from the Chevrolet Parts Interchange Manual Brad Waller '67 Chevelle '66 Corvette On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, malibuSS wrote: Hi everyone. I have a 327 with casting numbers 3903352and a HC stamped on the pad infront of the right cylinder head. Can anyone tell me what the HC means and what was the original application and horsepower of this engine...I'm kinda stumped cause I thought an HC was a 350 2bbl.Thanx for any helpJohn - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327
John: the lime book shows HC as 65 327/250 hp 4b/pg in a pass/ 66-68 327/275 hp 4b/pg in pass or a 69 350/250 hp 2b/mt in chevelle,nova,camaro or El camino. the block is a 67 2 bolt main block. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 for sale
BTW: I live just a few miles from Mark. If anyone would feel better about a "2nd opinion", I'd be glad to take a look. Mark and I've been meaning to meet each other anyway. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Here is the info on the 327. The block casting # is 3892657 with an HC engine code. This means it could be out of a 1965 full size car or possibly a 67. The heads are casting # 3890462 which are 66-67 camel hump, no accessory holes, 64cc chamber. This engine comes complete from carb to pan, including all brackets and pulleys. The intake is a Edelbrock Torker II with a 750 vac. secondary Holley. I am also including a HEI dist. Here is the deal on the engine, I bought a 67 Chevelle about 4 months ago and this is the engine that was in the car. I will guarantee it runs and is pretty healthy. As far as how many miles I am not sure. But there is no knocks pings or oil usage. I would like to have $650 for this engine. If you are still interested let me know, because I will be in Cincy this upcoming weekend and I could bring it with me. If there is anything else you would like to know just ask. Thanks, Mark Green -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.tremectransmissions.com/ Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 327
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Recent posts got me to wondering Are the 2 blocks/cranks that I have in my shed worth something? Is a 327 still in demand?? One is a small journal block. I know at one time racers wanted these for less internal friction. Maybe its time for a thrifty nickel ad?? rick schaefer abilene tx - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
