Re: [CinCVS] Fixed titler bug: occasional full intensity flash at last frame of a fade-out.
Hurrah! This has been an annoying fluke behavior for me for a long time :-D Jope ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Pause/stutter in DVD at chapter boundary
On 10/8/07, Craig Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I have created 5 half hour DVDs with Cinelerra and they look > beautiful. Except for one thing: the video pauses or stutters (replays > the last few frames) at some of the chapter boundaries. > //snip// > > Has anyone seen this problem before? And solved it? As far as I know, dvdauthor still doesn't tell you whether or not it found audio discontinuities. I have had the same hiccups in DVDs I've made, and the 'solution' that worked for me was to live with it. You can try cat'ing the mpegs together, demuxing with tcextract, and remuxing with mplex. Or change your work flow. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Newbie question about compiling Cinelerra
On 7/11/07, Dale Jovan Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For example a52 support says no, does that mean that the version of Cinelerra I complied does not support the protocols (x264 and etc) and if so, how do I get them enabled. Thank You. You're going to need a lot more development libraries installed on your system. And a shorter signature would be nice, too :-) Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] List of Cinelerra productions (was: Classic silent film restored with Cinelerra)
On 7/7/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 15:45 -0300, flavio wrote: > http://lab.dyne.org/cinelerra/ListOfCinelerraProduction > I updated it. It seems a bit empty though =( > Would be nice to take a look at people's works. Flavio, Nice!! :-) I think something is wrong with that page just now. Perhaps it needs re-editing. It would be really nice to have that wiki non-empty. I even dream of something more: a tidy place with a variety of videos edited in Cinelerra. I rate the diversity a value greater than the quantity. So this is my proposal: - to link there only one or two videos per author (to assure the variety) - to put the direct link to the video - to link only the videos edited in Cinelerra (not other free editors) - to note the licence in a standard way I'm interested as well. I thought that Cinelerra already had its own wiki. Should we use that one instead? Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] DVD render: output quality not so good
On 6/10/07, Yannick Patois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- To render, I did exactly what's in the doc: created a small script containg: #!/bin/bash mpeg2enc -v 0 -K tmpgenc -r 16 -4 1 -2 1 -D 10 -E 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 6 -b 8600 -f 8 -o $1 Well, you could increase the quality by reducing the quantization and allowing for higher bitrate: -q 3 -b 9600 Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] again, interlacing
On 4/21/07, Kurt Georg Hooss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: from joe's comments, i understand that it might be better to render video and audio into two separate streams, audio into ac3 and video to yuv4mpeg (instead of dv.mov). doing so, i got a popup with the following error messages from cinelerra: int YUVStream::read_header(): y4m_read_stream_header() failed: bad stream or frame header int YUVSream::open_read(char*): Bad YUV4MPEG2 header: parameter out of range however a working stream was generated, and after multiplexing i could put the result directly into todisc to make a dvd. no field swapping anymore. great. fantastic! Great! I'm glad that it worked well. Those pop-up messages are new to me, so I don't have any insight there. Happy editing! Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] again, interlacing
Hi! Your mail comes across as double-spaced, which little difficult to read and reply to -- I can't see as much of what you say at one time. I re-formatted below for myself and others :-) On 4/19/07, Kurt Georg Hooss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi folks, maybe not a cinelerra problem in the strictest sense, however maybe someone here can hint me where to look. i have made a movie on dvd using kino (for grabbing), cinelerra (for editing and rendering to q4l.mov), tovid (for converting to dvd-compatible .mpg), and dvdauthor. when watching the results on the computer screen, there were the typical comb-like artifacts in horizontal movements, which actually did not really disturb me. however when watching the movie on a dvd player / tv screen, then all horizontal movements show such an intense flickering that it really gives me a headache, also with strong comb effects. the only sensible explanation seems that the fields are played in reverse order, i.e. say if the camera records top fields first, then the player shows bottom fields first, or vice versa. I would agree with that -- it sounds like the fields are playing in reverse order. to find out, i have experimented with the "format" settings in cinelerra and rendered four versions of a little test scene, each time starting cinelerra from scratch, setting the format, loading footage, rendering: 1. Preset "PAL" (interlace mode goes automatically to "bottom fields first"), 2. then changed interlace mode to "none", without changing anything else, 3. and to "top fields first", 4. and finally with preset "PAL Progressive" (50 fps). I have then converted these four test movies (tovid -pal -dvd ...) and combined them onto a test dvd (todisc -pal -dvd ...). but when playing on the dvd player + tv, all four looked the same, horribly flickering. so maybe it is not so much a problem with rendering in cinelerra, but with interlacing (and possibly swapping fields) in tovid, i don't know. anyone here who had any similar experiences? This is probably the best explanation, but it may depend on how you're rendering. Cinelerra at one point had dv-encoding struggles. In my experience, it was mainly a loss in quality as blocks became more visibly obvious. But there have been some discussions about libdv and I think these abnormalities have been resolved. I'm assuming that this is the case and that Cinelerra is correctly rendering back to quicktime for linux. My next question is why you are rendering to DV and then to MPEG when Cinelerra can go directly to MPEG with a pipe. See http://pengi.films.googlepages.com/shizuocha-pp_footage for an example; scroll down to the 'Exporting' section. Finally, I'm glad that you're using tovid to convert your footage! I'm one of the developers, and recently a user has added some excellent instructions about DV and bottom-fields-first interlacing encoding on our wiki: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Dvsd_field_order_and_mplayer We're adding his efforts into the code base. It sounds like you have discovered some bugs in tovid as well, so please post about your experiencies on the mailing list or the forum: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page#Help Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Newbie stuggling
On 4/7/07, Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2007 20:58, Joe Friedrichsen wrote: > > > > ffmpeg -i youtube.flv -acodec ac3 -vodec mpeg2video -y video.mpg > > > > This fails when converting from my .avi file rather than the .flv > > source > > And my crystal ball is still at the cleaners. I can't make any stabs > in the dark without something to stab at :-) Were any meaningful > error messages generated? [mpeg2video @ 0xb7e2bba8]MPEG1/2 does not support 15/1 fps Error while opening codec for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height You'll probably need to add the -r (framerate) option. Use 25 for PAL and 29.970 for NTSC: ffmpeg -i youtube.flv -acodec ac3 -vodec mpeg2video -r 25 -y video.mpg > You also haven't mentioned which version of cinelerra you're using. Not sure how to find that out - there is no "about" menu. Its the latest debian sid version 1:2.1.0-2s That's probably sufficient for others here on the list. It's pretty quiet out there ;-) Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Newbie stuggling
On 4/7/07, Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So now I tried ffmpeg -i $TITLE.avi -acodec ac3 -vcodec mpeg4 -y $TITLE.mov and I (I think) get the same file your comand gives. And I get a resource in which cinelerra sees both some video and audio. However if I load that file into the timeline I see it all - but "playing" shows the video and no sound. What I then did was load both the avi and mov resources, and put them on the timeline by removing the mov sound and replacing it with the avi sound. The combination gives me my stuff back. Yes, but this is hardly ideal, hey. Lots of work and time; I can sympathize with not wanting that as the work-around. > ffmpeg -i youtube.flv -acodec ac3 -vodec mpeg2video -y video.mpg This fails when converting from my .avi file rather than the .flv source And my crystal ball is still at the cleaners. I can't make any stabs in the dark without something to stab at :-) Were any meaningful error messages generated? You also haven't mentioned which version of cinelerra you're using. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Newbie stuggling
On 4/7/07, Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2007 18:07, Joe Friedrichsen wrote: > There are a few hints in the docs: > http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_ >5.html#SEC63 , I had already read that quite carefully - but its quite confusing. For instance it say audio formats are WAV, PCM, AIFF and AC3, but then it talks about .mov format. Yes, this is a fine distinction to make. mov/avi/asf/wmv are containers not codecs. wav/pcm/aiff/ac3 are codecs not containers. An avi can have any of a multitude of video/audio codecs. Some avis may have DivX video with mp3 audio, others will have x264 video and ac3 audio, and there are heaps of other combinations. Filename extensions typically don't tell you what kind of video and audio you actually have. It's like a lunch box: there's a container for your food (video) and drink (audio). You can't really see what's for lunch until you open it. And Cinelerra can be said to be a vegan -- she only likes some kinds of foods and drinks, and only in certain kinds of lunch boxes (you know, ones without animal byproducts :-). mov and avi are good containers cinelerra. DV and pcm are good codecs. These I know from experience. Flash video and its container (flv) is not supported by Cinelerra, afaik. You will need to transcode into some other container and codecs. ffmpeg -i youtube.flv -acodec ac3 -vcodec mpeg4 -y video.mov or, failing that: ffmpeg -i youtube.flv -acodec ac3 -vodec mpeg2video -y video.mpg may help. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Newbie stuggling
On 4/7/07, Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have some files that I would like to edit that have been created as .avi containers with an mpeg4 video stream and an mp3 audio. When I attempt to load them as a resource in Cinelerra it seems to think that they are only audio I tried convering them to .mov files using ffmpeg and to load them into cinelerra that way. Then I get the video, but the audio shows as complete silence. I am not sure what it the right way to hold both audio and video streams in a single file so that cinelerra can load them in for editing. Can someone helpme out here. There are a few hints in the docs: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_5.html#SEC63 , but you don't really say what your source is. I ususally edit video from my miniDV camera, so I always capture into .mov containers with DV video and pcm audio. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] AC3 encoding
On 3/25/07, Cedric PAILLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Can somebody tell me how to do to encode audio channels in 5.1 format ( fr + fl + rr + rl + center + lfe ), and how is made the lfe track ? I read all the doc, but didn't found anyrhing about that. Hi! It's in there since I remember proofing it -- http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_20.html#SEC274 Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Use of Title in local language
On 2/28/07, Bhikkhu Mettavihari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I now have a problem with using our local fonts for titling In eastern scripts we often have a base letter with a top or buttom glyph that will step back over the base charactor. As far as I know, cinelerra isn't very non-latin friendly. When trying to make Japanese titles, I also had to use the Gimp to make them and use them as overlays in cinelerra. I used spumux for the audio subtitling, however, and it didn't have any problems with ja_JP-UTF8 encoded text files. Read about my experiences here: http://pengi.films.googlepages.com/shizuocha-pp_subtitles Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] still pictures out of a video
Hey hey! On 2/11/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless I'm missing something... Hmmm, mplayer offers a few filters for working with interlaced video. If the ones in cinelerra didn't work, you may want to try those. mplayer video.avi -vo png -vf pp=fd There are heaps of post-processing (pp) filters that deinterlace. From man mplayer: lb/linblenddeint Linear blend deinterlacing filter that dein- terlaces the given block by filtering all lines with a (1 2 1) filter. li/linipoldeint Linear interpolating deinterlacing filter that deinterlaces the given block by linear- ly interpolating every second line. ci/cubicipoldeint Cubic interpolating deinterlacing filter deinterlaces the given block by cubically interpolating every second line. md/mediandeint Median deinterlacing filter that deinter- laces the given block by applying a median filter to every second line. fd/ffmpegdeint FFmpeg deinterlacing filter that deinter- laces the given block by filtering every second line with a (-1 4 2 4 -1) filter. l5/lowpass5 Vertically applied FIR lowpass deinterlacing filter that deinterlaces the given block by filtering all lines with a (-1 2 6 2 -1) filter. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] still pictures out of a video
On 2/11/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks, Joe. > > Is it clever to try to take a nice and sharp still picture out of an > > interlaced video? :-/ > transcode has worked for me in the past what about the quality of your still pictures? I've used them to make animated thumbnail menus for dvds, and I was happy with the results. I didn't do any PSNR analysis on the original size, so I don't have any quantitative data for you. I guess just try it and judge it for your needs :-) Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] still pictures out of a video
On 2/10/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciao everyone! Is it clever to try to take a nice and sharp still picture out of an interlaced video? :-/ transcode has worked for me in the past: transcode -i MY_VIDEO -c START_FRAME-END_FRAME -y im -F png -o pics/ will make png files for each frame between START_FRAME and END_FRAME in a new directory called 'pics' (g)xine and friends can also do screen captures. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Vedr. Re: Vedr. Re: [CinCVS] svn
On 1/7/07, Embrik Kaslegard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok. I've tried different ways of getting a higher versions, but I've failed. Not sure If I can do it on Ubuntu. This is is my versions of these files. Notice, I haven't got automake. My automake is called automake1.4 You can either try to update your repository information sudo apt-get update to see if a newer automake appears. Or, you may need to install the package 'build-essential'. I'm not really sure how *buntu has changed the package names because I'm using debian etch. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Vedr. Re: [CinCVS] svn
On 1/7/07, Embrik Kaslegard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, here's the standing of my attempt to install cinerella: * I installed subversion * Fetched the cv: svn checkout svn://svn.skolelinux.org/cinelerra/trunk/hvirtual. * ran this command: sudo autoreconf -i --force * and got this message: aclocal: configure.in: 12: macro `AM_PROG_AS' not found in library autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 Is there anybody who can tell me what this message means? It may mean you have an older autotools chain. cinelerra-cv compiles on my system with these versions of autoconf, automake, and libtool: ~$ apt-cache policy autoconf automake libtool autoconf: Installed: 2.61-1 Candidate: 2.61-1 Version table: *** 2.61-1 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status automake: Installed: 1:1.10+nogfdl-1 Candidate: 1:1.10+nogfdl-1 Version table: *** 1:1.10+nogfdl-1 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status libtool: Installed: 1.5.22-4 Candidate: 1.5.22-4 Version table: *** 1.5.22-4 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status If you can update those three, you may find that ./autogen and ./configure will work. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] svn
On 1/7/07, Stephane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Embrik Kaslegard a écrit : > Hi! > > According to a howto I found am I supposed to run svn to fetch > Cinerella's cv with this command: > |svn checkout svn://svn.skolelinux.org/cinelerra/trunk/hvirtual. > > I tried this, but it seems that svn is a programme, did you try apt-get install svn ? Or maybe 'sudo apt-get install subversion' :) Joe )ޕ��jf��)��+- )ޕ��j�(��b��g�mx��)鮉��f��f���(��b��g��b�ا~�܊w�z�
Re: [CinCVS] libfaad-dev libfaad2-dev
On 1/5/07, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm using Debian Etch (testing) and had problems (mentioned in a posting made yesterday) that were resolved when I *removed* the system supplied FAAD package and compiled/installed FAAD2 as downloaded from the audio coding web site: http://www.audiocoding.com/index.php There's even a question posted there about the problem, with my answer to the problem I was seeing. Bottom line: don't use the Debian FAAD package. If you have it installed, remove it, get the version from the web site above and use it instead. My system is a counter example. ymmv http://e.kevb.net/lurker/message/20070103.230543.393c35f1.en.html Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] make errors (solved)
On 1/4/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciao! Evviv! I have successfully compiled Cinelerra! "make clean" made that faac error disappear and gave way to the next one: error: 'XF86VidModeModeInfo' does not name a type that was easily solved by installing the libxxf86vm-dev package. That was one of my errors as well, pointed out in this message: http://e.kevb.net/lurker/message/20061227.225645.6a8477bb.en.html Maybe xorg development library checks are warranted? Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] installing cinelerra
On 1/4/07, Embrik Kaslegard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use skolelinux 2.0, updatet and upgraded. I've got only sarge adresses in my sources.list. With kernel 2.6.8-3-386. From where should I install Cinelerra? Have a look at: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] make errors
On 1/3/07, Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Which libfaad packages are installed on your computer? Here's what is installed on mine: dpkg -l | grep faad ii libfaad-dev 2.5-1 freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - development files ii libfaad02.5-1 freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime files ii libfaad2-0 2.5-1 freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - dummy package Add another confirmation for those versions from my debian etch: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:$ dpkg -l | grep faad ii libfaad-dev 2.5-1freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - development files ii libfaad0 2.5-1 freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime files ii libfaad2-0 2.5-1 freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - dummy package [EMAIL PROTECTED]:$ apt-cache policy libfaad-dev libfaad0 libfaad2-0 libfaad-dev: Installed: 2.5-1 Candidate: 2.5-1 Version table: *** 2.5-1 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status libfaad0: Installed: 2.5-1 Candidate: 2.5-1 Version table: *** 2.5-1 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status libfaad2-0: Installed: 2.5-1 Candidate: 2.5-1 Version table: *** 2.5-1 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.5-0.1 0 500 http://mirror.home-dn.net etch/main Packages Cinelerra compiled from subversion with these packages. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Hi all...
On 1/2/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Helge. It never worked on my Ubuntu Edgy. I must have a very eccentric system... On debian etch, I've found it helpful to remove the existing devices and remake them with the major/minor numbers wanted by my drivers: # mknod -m 666 /dev/dv1394 c 171 2 # mknod -m 666 /dev/raw1394 c 171 0 Longer explanation: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=1512737#post1512737 Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra build problems
On 12/27/06, Pierre Marc Dumuid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You must be behind a firewall as I could checkout today myself using the command described at cvs.cinelerra.org. Same for me. 'svn co' worked without complaints, and cinelerra built just fine on etch (save a few ./configure omissions). Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] svn rev973: ./configure neglects xorg, tiff
I installed debian etch yesterday and decided to compile cinelerra from svn. Since the install was minimalistic, I used ./configure to help me find the (numerous) missing development libraries. After the final summary told me that all were found, compilation broke a few times because ./configure missed a few. Missing packages that weren't reported as missing: libxxf86vm-dev -- X11/extentions/xf86vmode.h libxv-dev -- X11/extensions/Xvlib.h libtiff4-dev -- tiffio.h Are these the dependencies alluded to on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/svnusage.php: "Most of the missing dependencies should be listed after running ./configure, (and the rest can be somewhat worked out from the compile error message you get.)"? In other words, is this build process expected? Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Exporting to mpeg video..
On 12/18/06, Wesley T Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all... I'm having difficulty exporting to mpeg video using the yuv 4:2:0 I get errors no matter what and, while the other yuv setting allows me to render mpeg2 - it crashes everything but mplayer... Here's my problem: "/usr/local/lib/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin: not found" I feel like I have much better control when I use the yuv4mpeg pipe. I can specify the exact options that I want, and even include other parts of mjpegtools when necessary. http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_19.html#SEC263 is a decent guide for making a DVD-compliant stream from your project. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] HDV to DVD, still need a tip...
On 12/18/06, Marcin Kostur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also i can't understand how to implement 16/9 on DVD - results are random - on some players i got pan-scan, on another players letterbox, and usually if there are 2 clips 4/3 and 16/9 then DVD does only one aspect to both. Has anybody experience in dvdvauthoring? Is the 16/9:4/3 flag inside mpeg file or somwhere else? You can fix the pan-scan / letterbox randomness with dvdauthor: inside the tag, include widescreen="nopanscan|noletterbox" and dvdauthor will tell the player what to not do with widescreen format videos (rather than let the player decide what it feels like doing). Also, you cannot put both 4:3 and widescreen format video in the same titleset. Place them in separate titlesets, and you'll be able to mix aspects on the same DVD. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [WANTED] English native speakers to proof read the manual
Thanks for dividing the work! Here is my part, which read quite well since it had large portions from Heroine's plugin-contributing docs. I'm curious how the docs are published - are any parts governed by a wiki? Parts of mine included troubleshooting, shortcuts, and guides for cinelerra, and allowing users to contribute their secrets would be helpful as well. Joe part_4.diff Description: Binary data
Re: [CinCVS] free media content
Some Creative Commons work permits re-use and alteration: http://search.creativecommons.org/ and tick the box that says "Search for works I can modify, adapt, or build upon." Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] [WANTED] English native speakers to proof read the manual
I'll help as well. Now it's down to a quarter each! Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Yaizu Suisan: cinelerra-made video
Nicolas wrote: That's a nice video. There's not much Cinelerra features used in it, only a few of them (dissolve video transition, and a few projector tweaking). The picture quality is nice. The camcorder used is a Panasonic GS400, it's a good camcorder, I've got the same too. ;-) I think a tripod could have been used to shot some scenes. There're some parts of the video which do not look professional because the camcorder was handheld. Hi! Thanks for the feedback. You're right on every account except for the camera - I used the school's older Sony. Only the sumo shots were taken with the GS400. I really wish I had used a tripod as well, but as the Japanese say, "Sho ga nai, ne." (nothing can be done). I did some minor picture correction with contrast/brightness and hue/saturation in a few parts, but otherwise left the video effects out of it: none of them seem to fit with a school introduction video. But I'd take recommendations if you saw a place for a good effect. I've never studied film or video making or editing. 100% amateur :) I'm still learning a lot about the cinelerra work flow - things improved over Shizuocha (as far as efficiency in editing for me), but I have some new methods to try for next time. Appreciate the critique, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Yaizu Suisan: cinelerra-made video
Joe Friedrichsen wrote: Hello everyone, this is a short notice to point you toward a recent video made with cinelerra: Yaizu Suisan, a video about the only fishing high school in Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan. This 18 minute video was made during the last two months, and includes footage from the fishing training vessel and the sumo team's practice. http://pengi.films.googlepages.com/shizuocha If you're curious about Japanese high school life, please take a look! uf. the correct link would be http://pengi.films.googlepages.com/yaizu-suisan Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Yaizu Suisan: cinelerra-made video
Hello everyone, this is a short notice to point you toward a recent video made with cinelerra: Yaizu Suisan, a video about the only fishing high school in Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan. This 18 minute video was made during the last two months, and includes footage from the fishing training vessel and the sumo team's practice. http://pengi.films.googlepages.com/shizuocha If you're curious about Japanese high school life, please take a look! Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Projector, camera
Marcin Kostur wrote: I have, for example , a tip for using a title. Note that titler in cinelerra is really badly rendering - since the edges of fonts are sharp. What i do is to put all titles in separate track and at the very end add blur with small (1-2pix) radius. The result is excellent. The only drawback is that blur makes playback 2x slower ;-)) so for editing i set it to "Off" and for Redering to "On". Sounds like you're rendering back to DV; I've noticed this as well. However, by changing the target codec, the titler doesn't have any 'blur'. I've used yuv4mpeg pipes successfully for both mencoder and mpeg2enc, so there is a wide selection of codecs available. However, I'm still experiencing the title flicker (https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2006-July/006863.html) and my only work-around so far is to use overlayed images. I've recently made problems for myself with the camera, but they belong in a separate thread. :) Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] "Show keyframe settings" dialog box invisible
Hi everyone, While using camera automation to pan over still shots, I've somehow disabled the "keyframe settings" dialog box (the box that reports the current keyframe's X, Y, and zoom positions and allows you to enter exact values). Clicking on the "Adjust camera automation" button in the compositor doesn't show the box anymore, neither does selecting "Show keyframe settings" from the right click menu of a keyframe (X|Y|zoom). Nothing happens. Furthermore, the entire dialog box 'class' appears to have been disabled: selecting "Show keyframe setttings" by right clicking an audio fade keyframe does nothing as well. In trying to fix the problem, I've moved ~/.bcast to force cinelerra into making a new home for itself. I've also upgraded from debian/sid 20060605 to 20060606 from kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/pentium4 Has anyone else encountered this problem? Do you have any suggestions? I'd file a bug report, but I can't reproduce the problem, nor can I _exactly_ remember the state of everything during that editing session. Thanks, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] avi with mpeg4 audio only
Hi everyone, I've tried ripping some old videos I've made to use again in a remix of sorts, but I can't get cinelerra to recognize the video. When I load the media and watch it in the viewer, I only hear the audio. The video is not displayed at all. According to one of the many references (http://www.ftconsult.com/twiki/bin/view/Cinelerra/LoadingOtherFormats), cinelerra should be able to handle mpeg4 created by mencoder's lavc. The example given is mencoder INPUT_FILE.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:vol=1 -o OUTPUT_FILE.avi Do my codec options below have incompatible things? What should I try? mencoder dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/dvd -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:vbitrate=2299 -vf pp=de,crop=0:0:0:0 -o "/home/friedrij/F-course-uokoku.avi" Using ffmpeg to convert the mpeg4/avi to mpeg2/mpg let cinelerra import and display the video. That command was ffmpeg -sameq -i F-course-uokoku.avi -vcodec mpeg2video -b 8000 -acodec copy uokoku.mpg (I'm using debian/sid cinelerra 2.0.0-3svn20060606.) Any advice appreciated, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker
Brendan Conoboy wrote: Joe Friedrichsen wrote: I've noticed that in some videos I've made as well - the background appears to change the way the title fades in. This is still different. In the sample file (http://www.f-forge.com/?d=EdD1UKgj9LQsCupcxJwR), the flicker is quite obvious - it's not coming from a contrast with the background. Rather, the title slowly and smoothly fades out until the final frame of fading out, at which point that single last frame shows the title at full visibility. I can observe this flicker in cinelerra's compositor during playback and during frame-by-frame advancement. I haven't been following this thread closely, but it does sound like something I experienced and resolved. The problem was that I was using fading keyframes and setting them by hand instead of using the slider. That is to say, I'd press the mouse when the cursor was over the part of the timeline I wanted to fade then drag it downward until my compositor window faded out. Because of Cinelerra 2's quirky feature, for some of the last frames it would actually go past fading out and back into visible again. The resolution for this was to use the slider instead of dragging on the timeline. I was under the impression that the video fader was broken in Cinelerra 2, glad to hear it's working! In trying just now, I've noticed that what I'll call the 'asset fader range' (or the limits for the minimum and maximum of the fade line) are a bit inconvenient. Audio generally fades in decibels below zero and video fades in integers between 0 and 100. Setting the limits to -40, 10 helps for fading audio, but doesn't help with video (which benefits from a 0-100 scale). What do Cinelerra users use for their limits to keep sensitivity? Sorry for the OT wander. . . Unfortunately, my problem isn't a video track fader flicker, but the Title effect in Video Effects. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker
Leonardo wrote: Me too, i had a title fading, and at the same time a black background on which a video was appearing (alpha increasing from 0 to 1). My first impression was that the title was flickering, but I think it was only a perceptual impression, looking at the single frames the title intensity is changing correctly, as well as the video. Try to analize the frames of the transition with gimp or another graphic program. You can get the frames as jpeg files by playing the video with: mplayer -vo jpeg yourvideo.avi (not completely sure of the syntax, in case man mplayer) I've noticed that in some videos I've made as well - the background appears to change the way the title fades in. This is still different. In the sample file (http://www.f-forge.com/?d=EdD1UKgj9LQsCupcxJwR), the flicker is quite obvious - it's not coming from a contrast with the background. Rather, the title slowly and smoothly fades out until the final frame of fading out, at which point that single last frame shows the title at full visibility. I can observe this flicker in cinelerra's compositor during playback and during frame-by-frame advancement. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker
Alec Robertson wrote: Hi Joe, After adding a second video track and replacing the flickering titles with new ones, the problem still persists. I've noticed something similar in the past... in my case it was due to extra keyframes along the plugin. Have you enabled "View -> Plugin Keyframes" to check? Hi Alec, thanks for the suggestion. I've been burned by that before, especially with camera motion. Unfortunately, that is not what's happening this time. I turned on the Plugin Keyframes and nothing changed in the view. My project is a simple slideshow with photographs and music. There are crossfade video effects and titles. Only a few titles flicker, and it's quite confusing! Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker
After adding a second video track and replacing the flickering titles with new ones, the problem still persists. To see a sample of the rendered output, please grab this file: http://www.f-forge.com?d=EdD1UKgj9LQsCupcxJwR (~8sec, 2.1MB m2v) Thanks, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] titler fade out flicker
Andraz Tori wrote: plesase submit an xml... Please find the tar.gz attached. The last four titles are the ones which have the flicker. If you play the video in the compositor, cinelerra will not usually show the flicker (although sometimes it will). However, during rendering or a frame-by-frame advance, the flicker happens. Thanks for taking a look at it, and let me know if I can give you more information. Joe slideshow.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
[CinCVS] titler fade out flicker
Hello everyone, I've come across a strange intermittent problem with the Title effect. Just as the text completely fades out, it will briefly flicker at full opacity before disappearing. The length appears to be about 2 frames (or one set of fields), but the flicker does not happen for every title effect: I've only noticed it on the last 4 titles or so. The others at the beginning don't have this flicker. Looking at the xml, nothing appears to be different between s of titles that work properly and those that flicker. Is there something I should be looking for? I'm using 2.0.0-3svn20060606 from http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/pentium4/ . Thanks, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Shizuocha: cinelerra-made documentary
Hello everyone, this is a short notice to point you toward a recent film made with cinelerra: Shizuocha, a documentary about the green tea of Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan. This half-hour film was made during the previous year, and includes an interview in China. http://pengi.films.googlepages.com/shizuocha If you're curious about tea or learning Japanese, please take a look! Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Silently fails to render to mpeg 2
Trevor Harris wrote: I have a short HDV video which is mpeg2 transport stream 1440x1088. I created a table of contents and loaded this into the timeline. I selected the clip and tried to render it to mpeg2, it seems to go through the motions but does not create the file. Rendering to MPEG4 works OK. I think cinelerra uses mpeg2enc as the mpeg2 encoder. I don't think mpeg2enc can handle HD video... Clearly I'm not too sure, just a guess. :) Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Hardware Requirements question
RedEnzian - open source group wrote: Hi there, we should build a linux box for video editing. It should support kino and cinelerra with hd functionality. Is it an absolutely must to use a dual opteron system? What are the minimum requirements (e.g. Athlon64, Intel Duo Core)? Don't know the minimum, but I've got Cinelerra working on my 2-year-old P4 2.4GHz _laptop_, often using both on-board and usb-hd DV mov files. I don't get full 30fps playback, but it's still above 20 (above 25 most of the time), even with 512MB ram. I've found Cinelerra to be incredibly adaptive to the hardware you present to it. (Good work, guys!) Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Scripts to encode a Cinelerra video into various formats
Nicolas wrote: You second pass starts and use the logfile of the first pass when the first pass isn't finished. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. The first is finished when I start the second pass. I agree with you that doing a 2nd pass while the first is still in progress misses the point of two|n-pass encoding. Let me outline the process a bit more clearly: 1. Render your film's audio to a wave file, say "final-cut-direct.wav" 2. Render your film's video using YUV4MPEG pipe and mencoder. I've called the rendered file "hiQ-x264-shizuocha.avi" (which replaces the %). The lone '-' tells mencoder to expect piped input from standard in. -audiofile tells mencoder to use final-cut-direct.wav as the audio (mencoder won't encode without both audio and video present, and this way, it's multiplexed together at the same time). You can even use -af channels to simulate surround sound if you didn't do that in your cinelerra sessions. Here is the pipe command: mencoder - -audiofile ./final-cut-direct.wav -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=ac3 -noaspect -noskip -ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=20:subq=6:4x4mv:8x8dct:me=3:frameref=5:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1 -passlogfile hiQ-pass1.log -o % 3. Wait for cinelerra/mencoder to finish their work. 4. Start the second pass, using the complete "hiQ-x264-shizuocha.avi" file. This time, the input file is "hiQ-x264-shizuocha.avi" and not '-' (standard in). Use -oac copy because you don't need to re-encode the audio. mencoder hiQ-x264-shizuocha.avi -oac copy -noaspect -noskip -ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=1000:crf=20:subq=6:4x4mv:8x8dct:me=3:frameref=5:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=2 -passlogfile ../hiQ-pass1.log -o hiQ-x264-shizuocha-p2.avi I've done the video testing you've mentioned, and cinelerra does indeed have quality problems when exporting back to dv (in my cases). Any graphic layovers (from svg-derived png files, jpg stills, or even the titler video effect) or faster horizontal motion (pans, moving scenery) are horrendously re-encoded. I prefer as few transitional files as possible. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Scripts to encode a Cinelerra video into various formats
Nicolas wrote: An intermediate .mov file is necessary in order to encode in 2 pass mode with ffmpeg or mencoder. No, it isn't. I've done 2-pass encoding for x264 like this: For the first pass, render the audio as wav, and use the YUV4MPEG stream for video. I called my output file "hiQ-x264-shizuocha.avi", so % takes that. The pipe settings are: mencoder - -audiofile ./rendered/final-cut-direct.wav -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=ac3 -noaspect -noskip -ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=20:subq=6:4x4mv:8x8dct:me=3:frameref=5:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1 -passlogfile hiQ-pass1.log -o % And for the second pass: mencoder hiQ-x264-shizuocha.avi -oac copy -noaspect -noskip -ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=1000:crf=20:subq=6:4x4mv:8x8dct:me=3:frameref=5:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=2 -passlogfile ../hiQ-pass1.log -o hiQ-x264-shizuocha-p2.avi It's quite possible, and very nice! You could even do n-pass encoding in this way. hth, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Scripts to encode a Cinelerra video into various formats
Nicolas wrote: 5 - CONCLUSION -- My advices to get the best results when converting your videos made with Cinelerra are: - export as an YUV4MPEG stream and encode with mpeg2enc if you want a mpeg DVD format, - export as a .mov file (Quicktime DV+audio 2 complements) and use ffmpeg to encode your video into an "exotic" format, - export as a .mov file (Quicktime DV+audio 2 complements) and use mencoder if you want a Divx video. You don't have to use the .mov intermediate file to encode with mencoder. Render the audio first as a wave and then use the YUV4MPEG stream to pipe to mencoder. Specify -audiofile /path/to/wav.file and use the -oac you want. ffmpeg will also read the YUV4MPEG stream if you specify "-f yuv4mpegpipe -i -" in the dialog box before your output options. hth, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Notes on cinelerra usability
Jonas Wulff wrote: Hello, just one comment: You can use truetype-fonts in cinelerra. Just copy the fonts you want to use to /usr/lib/local/cinelerra (or whatever library path you are using) and call mkfontdir and mkfontscale inside this directory. Be careful! This broke the titler for me - whenever cinelerra tried to draw text in the compositor, it would crash. I fixed it by re-installing cinelerra. I'd like to see cinelerra support more character sets and IME's - I have to use the gimp to overlay Japanese text because it doesn't recognize Japanese characters (pasted from other editors) or scim. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Converting .mov file to mpeg2 file with VBR video ?
Nicolas wrote: I would like to know if anyone on this list got a (working) script converting an output file generated by cinelerra to a VBR mpeg2 file (with AC3 if possible). I even use (old - 1.2.2) Cinelerra, and it can pipe to YUV4MPEG perfectly to mpeg2enc and do variable bitrate. I use this as the pipe command: mpeg2enc -f 8 -b 7500 -n n -F 4 -a 2 -q 4 -g 3 -G 18 -4 2 -2 1 -H -o % I render ac3 separately, and then multiplex with mplex. I tried mencoder, but all I got is "ERROR: SCR: ..." messages while encoding a .mov file (dv+2 complements audio). I've gotten both ffmpeg mencoder to work with the same pipe render, but haven't tried for mpeg2. I've done x264 and other mpeg4 variants. I prefer mencoder's approach over ffmpeg, but it won't encode without an audio track. So, first, you need to render the audio as wav and tell mencoder to use it while it encodes the video by specifying -audiofile path/to/audio.wav and then set -oac as you like it. I've tried rendering the audio to ac3 first and then using -oac copy, but I always get a/v sync issues. If you have the space, render to wav and then encode everything with that mencoder pipe. You can even do two-pass encoding. Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Is RawDV export still broken ?
Since you have a master rendered DV mov file, you can use mplayer to play it and pipe yuv to mpeg2enc (and whatever filters you want as well). And you can pipe a second time to make the audio. Or, you could even try to do both at the same time! To see an example, check out the scripting at tovid.org or even use it (it works well for me). ffmpeg uses libavcodec (the same library in mencoder, the two projects work very closely together). transcode uses either ffmpeg or mpeg2enc (depends on your command line options). There are only two mpeg-2 encoders (IIRC): libavcodec and mpeg2enc. mpeg2enc has better luck with dvdauthor, so I'd go that route if I were you. hth, Joe ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
