ppp dial-up with ISDN TA on serial interface.

[Bjørnulf Karlsen]

Hi,

I have a Lasat Unique 128iA/B, and I am supposed to hook it up on a
2501(11.1(24)) serial port and dial an ISP.

Any idé how to config the router ? ..I am a newbee !

Thanks in advance
Bjørnulf Karlsen
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about the interval

[gary]

hi guys:
 how to change the interval of output rate and input rate 
in Cisco router
 
 
 
 
best regard

Re: UK2USA

[Ben Lovegrove]

--- Stephen Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys,
> Your help is required.
> I am sick to the back teeth with the UK and want out!
> 
> any advise on where to go ,moving over,places with good job ops.
> or anything else.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Steve Skinner
> 
> MCSE ,CCNA ,CCDA ,PSS ,ACT ,CLS

Some US job listings for Cisco qualified people:
http://www.lovegrove.co.uk/bgl/ciscojobs

HTH

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Re: 2501 Question

[jjessen]

KF,

CCO at www.cisco.com is where all your questions can be answered fully.

Cheers,

Jack





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Subject:  2501 Question



Hi:

Does anyone know the address for a web site that will walk you though the
installation of a Cisco 2501 Router? Also, does anyone have any good lab
projects that use this router and would help me prepare for my CCNA exam.

Regards,
KF

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RE: PIX versus Firewall-1 comparison

[Ben Lovegrove]

Chuck,

Absolutely, especially point number 3 - I would be very surprised if
either company said anything to the contrary!

>From time to time I play around on a Checkpoint box and although the
GUI is very easy to use, the only complaint I have heard several times
from those whose servers (e.g. collection stations) it protects is that
there are timeouts.  On investigation these are hard to pin down.

Regards,
Ben
--- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, Ben, I have
recently sat in different seminars sponsored by
> Cisco and
> Checkpoint. From statements made by the presenters, I gathered that
> both
> companies agree on the following points:
> 
> 1) Cisco PIX is far superior in terms of throughput.
> 2) Checkpoint GUI / management, particularly of multiple security
> domains,
> multiple firewalls, and policy management, is far superior to
> anything Cisco
> has.
> 3) Both companies maintain that their product is superior in terms of
> general firewall features and functionality.
> 
> Is this your impression as well?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> Of Ben
> Lovegrove
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:48 AM
> To:   Phil Barker; cisco GroupStudy
> Subject:  Re: PIX versus Firewall-1 comparison
> 
> Phil,
> 
> I would imagine that the preference for Firewall-1 was expressed
> because the administration of it is far more user friendly that a
> PIX.
> Admin of FW-1 can be carried out using a Windows GUI with all the
> rules
> laid out in glorious technicolour, while admin of a PIX involves a
> CLI
> (command line interface).
> 
> But then again if you're a die-hard Cisco engineer you might think
> that
> Windows GUIs are a bit of a soft option, and that you prefer to do
> things in raw CLI fashion.
> 
> Regards,
> Ben
> 
> --- Phil Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Gang,
> > Does anyone know where I can get a decent white
> > paper comparing these two firewall solutions from a
> > neutral standpoint ?
> >
> > I've been in a meeting recently where it has been
> > claimed that we would always prefer Firewall-1 to PIX.
> >
> > Would anyone like to comment technically why this
> > should be ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phil.
> >


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Re: 2501 Question

[Oz]

i am sure there are plenty at www.cisco.com
try this
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2509/
acsvrug/techovr.htm

watch the wrap that should keep you busy for a while

LAso  go to the url below and get a copy of terraterm it may make things a
little easier
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm

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Re: HARDWARE QUESTION

[Ben Lovegrove]

--- Jasper Solt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I need a resource (WEB SITES, YOUR DIRECT ANSWER, ETC) for
> information concerning the following 
> 
> 1.)  Hardware required to set-up a classroom environment for the
> teaching of the CCNA course.
> 
> 2.)  Possible set-up scenarios (i.e., one router per student, one
> router shared between two students,  what's
> standard, what's best  ?)
> 
> 3.)  Where to purchase used/refurbished routers (2500 series).  Best
> router type for the class (i.e., interfaces)
> 
> 4.)  A good source for purchasing cables, memory, etc.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> 
> Jasper

http://www.lovegrove.co.uk/bgl
Cisco: links, books, jobs, training

http://www.redspan.com
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HTH

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"You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."

[Ben Lovegrove]

(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1 & 2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

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show ip eigrp timers

[Shahir Boshra]

Is this another undocumented command? It doesn't apeer as an option in "show
ip eigrp ?"

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Re: PIX versus Firewall-1 comparison

[Shahir Boshra]

Well, I really expect some flame for my opinion, but I have some
non-technical comments regarding checkpoint.
OK, let's put it this way, I really don't feel comfortable around
registering checkpoint server and sending them the registered IP address. I
understand this is only meant for copyrighting purposes, but again it still
doesn't make sense to me, they produced the S/W and they have all the IP
addresses of the installed machines?
I might be a bit paranoid here but...
Anyway, I appreciate your opinion on this.

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> Chuck,
>
> Absolutely, especially point number 3 - I would be very surprised if
> either company said anything to the contrary!
>
> From time to time I play around on a Checkpoint box and although the
> GUI is very easy to use, the only complaint I have heard several times
> from those whose servers (e.g. collection stations) it protects is that
> there are timeouts.  On investigation these are hard to pin down.
>
> Regards,
> Ben
> --- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, Ben, I have
> recently sat in different seminars sponsored by
> > Cisco and
> > Checkpoint. From statements made by the presenters, I gathered that
> > both
> > companies agree on the following points:
> >
> > 1) Cisco PIX is far superior in terms of throughput.
> > 2) Checkpoint GUI / management, particularly of multiple security
> > domains,
> > multiple firewalls, and policy management, is far superior to
> > anything Cisco
> > has.
> > 3) Both companies maintain that their product is superior in terms of
> > general firewall features and functionality.
> >
> > Is this your impression as well?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> > Of Ben
> > Lovegrove
> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:48 AM
> > To: Phil Barker; cisco GroupStudy
> > Subject: Re: PIX versus Firewall-1 comparison
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > I would imagine that the preference for Firewall-1 was expressed
> > because the administration of it is far more user friendly that a
> > PIX.
> > Admin of FW-1 can be carried out using a Windows GUI with all the
> > rules
> > laid out in glorious technicolour, while admin of a PIX involves a
> > CLI
> > (command line interface).
> >
> > But then again if you're a die-hard Cisco engineer you might think
> > that
> > Windows GUIs are a bit of a soft option, and that you prefer to do
> > things in raw CLI fashion.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ben
> >
> > --- Phil Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Gang,
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a decent white
> > > paper comparing these two firewall solutions from a
> > > neutral standpoint ?
> > >
> > > I've been in a meeting recently where it has been
> > > claimed that we would always prefer Firewall-1 to PIX.
> > >
> > > Would anyone like to comment technically why this
> > > should be ?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Phil.
> > >
>
>
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why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?

[Sim, CT (Chee Tong)]

Hi..Dear friends,  I was very confused with the confuration file of 5505, my
colleages send me two configuration file in Tokyo. 

One start with SOMETAROU#sh conf

Another one start with sometarou> (enable) sh conf 

and two of them give me different configuration, (see below)

1)can any one tell me, what is the different? 

2)I can telnet to my backbone switches, after I type 5505>en  password 
it gives me 5505>(enable) prompt then what should I type to get the 5505#
prompt

3)What is the special function 5505 back bone switch?  Can you use normal
switch like 1900, 2900 to replace it?  (optional)



&&
SOMETAROU#sh conf
Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
!
version 11.2
no service password-encryption
no service udp-small-servers
no service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname SOMETAROU
!
enable secret 5 $1$0U5tyfSAgpNPpsjXQ4xGI/
!
!
interface Vlan1
 description RABO-JP
 ip address 57.198.45.251 255.255.255.0
 ip broadcast-address 57.198.45.255
 no ip redirects
 standby 1 priority 100
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 57.198.45.250
!


sometarou> (enable) sh conf
.
..
.
..
..
..
..
 
begin
set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
set prompt Console>
set length 24 default
set logout 20
set banner motd ^C
 

* Catalyst 5505 #2 *
* SupervisorEngine *
*sometarou *

^C
!
#system
set system baud  9600
set system modem disable
set system name  sometarou
set system location
set system contact
!
#snmp
set snmp community read-only  public
set snmp community read-write private
set snmp community read-write-all secret
set snmp rmon disable
set snmp trap disable module
set snmp trap disable chassis
set snmp trap disable bridge


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Re: T1, FT1 and Channelized T1

[Oz]

T1  = 1.536mbps
Fractional T1 is 128 k minimum increasing in 64 k chunks
 Channelized means it can be split up into 24 channels

 Some folks use the term fulll T which to me means a fat 1.536 meg pipe
yes I know it listed as 1.544 but thats the gross BW  you lose 8k  in
housekeeping..
its  real name should be a DS-1

 i had great link that explained all this  i will try and find it for you

Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm
Can someone tell a little on the difference among T1,
Fractional T1 and Channelized T1? I'm bit confused.



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trunk

[Gils]

Hi all,


   I need help in configuring a trunk built out of two fastEthernet ports on
a Cisco 7206 router..can somebody please advise.


  10x 

  GIL

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Re: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?

[Stevan Pierce]

1) If your colleages sent you the config files from the 5505 switch fabric
then it would look similar to the second line "somertarou>(enable)";
however, your colleagues sent you the config off of the supervisor engine.

2) To get the to the switch fabric, get the address of the fabric and telnet
to that.

Stevan Pierce
""Sim, CT (Chee Tong)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi..Dear friends,  I was very confused with the confuration file of 5505,
my
> colleages send me two configuration file in Tokyo.
>
> One start with SOMETAROU#sh conf
>
> Another one start with sometarou> (enable) sh conf
>
> and two of them give me different configuration, (see below)
>
> 1)can any one tell me, what is the different?
>
> 2)I can telnet to my backbone switches, after I type 5505>en  password
> it gives me 5505>(enable) prompt then what should I type to get the 5505#
> prompt
>
> 3)What is the special function 5505 back bone switch?  Can you use normal
> switch like 1900, 2900 to replace it?  (optional)
>
>
>

> &&
> SOMETAROU#sh conf
> Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> !
> version 11.2
> no service password-encryption
> no service udp-small-servers
> no service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname SOMETAROU
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$0U5tyfSAgpNPpsjXQ4xGI/
> !
> !
> interface Vlan1
>  description RABO-JP
>  ip address 57.198.45.251 255.255.255.0
>  ip broadcast-address 57.198.45.255
>  no ip redirects
>  standby 1 priority 100
>  standby 1 preempt
>  standby 1 ip 57.198.45.250
> !
>

> 
> sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> .
> ..
> .
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
>
> begin
> set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> set prompt Console>
> set length 24 default
> set logout 20
> set banner motd ^C
>
> 
> * Catalyst 5505 #2 *
> * SupervisorEngine *
> *sometarou *
> 
> ^C
> !
> #system
> set system baud  9600
> set system modem disable
> set system name  sometarou
> set system location
> set system contact
> !
> #snmp
> set snmp community read-only  public
> set snmp community read-write private
> set snmp community read-write-all secret
> set snmp rmon disable
> set snmp trap disable module
> set snmp trap disable chassis
> set snmp trap disable bridge
>
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RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."

[Atif Awan]

lol :) hasnt happened to me yet but i cant help thinking abt the feeling :o)
( guess i am not a complete internetworking engineer yet )

Atif

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Ben Lovegrove
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1 & 2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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Vp/Vc for DSL (pls help)

[Tapas Das]

Dear Friends,

how do I assign Vp/Vc for my DSL subcribers, is it required that every DSL 
or ISP provider have different VP/VC no for their subcribers. or it depends 
from vendor to vendor.

If any one is using "IPSS 5000" or "DSL Terminator 100" pls send me ur 
email-id.

pls reply at the earliset.

Rgds
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Re: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."

[Saša Milic]

There is great command 'reload in '; should be used
before
any serious work :)


Atif Awan wrote:
> 
> lol :) hasnt happened to me yet but i cant help thinking abt the feeling :o)
> ( guess i am not a complete internetworking engineer yet )
> 
> 2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
> have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
> now locked out.

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RE: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?

[Bosio Stefano]

1)
The first one

> SOMETAROU#sh conf
> Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> !
> version 11.2
> no service password-encryption
.

is the configuration of RSM module (internal router)

the second one 

> sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> .
> ..
> ..
> ..
>  
> begin
> set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> set prompt Console>
...

is the configuratione of the switch (supervisor)

2) 5505> (enable) session  (es. session 4)


Stefano


> -Original Message-
> From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: martedì 8 agosto 2000 9.59
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?
> 
> 
> Hi..Dear friends,  I was very confused with the confuration 
> file of 5505, my
> colleages send me two configuration file in Tokyo. 
> 
> One start with SOMETAROU#sh conf
> 
> Another one start with sometarou> (enable) sh conf 
> 
> and two of them give me different configuration, (see below)
> 
> 1)can any one tell me, what is the different? 
> 
> 2)I can telnet to my backbone switches, after I type 5505>en  
> password 
> it gives me 5505>(enable) prompt then what should I type to 
> get the 5505#
> prompt
> 
> 3)What is the special function 5505 back bone switch?  Can 
> you use normal
> switch like 1900, 2900 to replace it?  (optional)
> 
> 
> &&
> &&
> &&
> SOMETAROU#sh conf
> Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> !
> version 11.2
> no service password-encryption
> no service udp-small-servers
> no service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname SOMETAROU
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$0U5tyfSAgpNPpsjXQ4xGI/
> !
> !
> interface Vlan1
>  description RABO-JP
>  ip address 57.198.45.251 255.255.255.0
>  ip broadcast-address 57.198.45.255
>  no ip redirects
>  standby 1 priority 100
>  standby 1 preempt
>  standby 1 ip 57.198.45.250
> !
> &&
> &&
> 
> sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> .
> ..
> .
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
>  
> begin
> set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> set prompt Console>
> set length 24 default
> set logout 20
> set banner motd ^C
>  
> 
> * Catalyst 5505 #2 *
> * SupervisorEngine *
> *sometarou *
> 
> ^C
> !
> #system
> set system baud  9600
> set system modem disable
> set system name  sometarou
> set system location
> set system contact
> !
> #snmp
> set snmp community read-only  public
> set snmp community read-write private
> set snmp community read-write-all secret
> set snmp rmon disable
> set snmp trap disable module
> set snmp trap disable chassis
> set snmp trap disable bridge
> 
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RE: CBT Training Options - Forefront

[Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY]

Ditto... Except my salesperson was a woman and she is STILL calling. They
don't take no for an answer.
My answering machine has at least two calls a week from this woman, even
after telling them "No thank you, my company paid for my training"
BEWARE SMARTCERTIFY! The most pushy telemarketers in the business.


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-Original Message-
From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CBT Training Options - Forefront


Besides, I think ForeFront (now SmartCertify) sales guys are TOO PUSHY AND
PERSISTENT - they kept calling me repeatedly inspite of the fact that I got
really annoyed with them and clearly asked
them never to call me again and that I'm NOT interested at all in their
product any more.

I write this to the group so that everyone thinks twice before leaving their
name/address/phone number/e-mail on their web site before downloading the
demos - earlier today I was woken up by the same over-zealous sales guy from
Forefront and it wasn't the first time grrr   ("Oh, I was
wondering if you're still interested in the CCNA CBT NO, I'M NOT -
REPEAT - NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN CCNA CBT FROM YOUR COMPANY.. NOW WHAT
PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ???")

The sales tactics used : The list price of the CCNA CBT is $1800, but
they'll give you all kinds of discounts (bring the price down to about $1200
or so), and if you express your inability to buy an expensive CBT product
(which isn't worth the money, imho, going by the demo I downloaded), they
will try to sell you all kinds of installment plans to sell you the CBT,
throw in freebies (buy CCNA 1.0 now and we'll throw in CCNA 2.0/ICND for
free)... anything to make you buy!

CAVEAT EMPTOR

My $0.02 worth... :-)

Bharat Suneja



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I have to agree here.  My company purchased the ForeFront CCNA CBT last year
for my training.  The cost was $1800 (US), which also included ACRC.  While
not bad for an overview, there were gaps left open in the end.  What I did
find useful was the visualization that the CBT provided.  I used the books
to get the complete coverage of the material and then the CBT for
visualization of some of the more complex topics.  All in all, however, I
don't think I would waste that much money again for CBTs.  I passed my next
3 CCNP tests with only books and resources from the web (well, this group
too, of course!) and found this method, while somewhat lengthier, to be more
complete.  If time is critical, take the class and get it over with.  You'll
get class materials to continue your studies as well as an instructor to
answer questions all day long (hopefully).
Good luck!
Rik
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From:   Marshal Schoener [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:44 PM
To: 'Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor'; CiscoGroupstudy
Subject:RE: CBT Training Options (CCNP)
I had the one for the CCNA.  I really didn't like it much...
It had some good info, but it's too slow.  Too much clicking for the next
screen and stuff :-)  I just can't stand the format, I would rather read a
book.
If you can't take the actual class, buy a few good books :-)
-Original Message-
From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:02 PM
To: CiscoGroupstudy
Subject: CBT Training Options (CCNP)


I've been battling it out with a local company here in San Diego to begin
night classes geared towards CCNP.  But thus far they're sticking to their
day only schedule.  They've instituted that e-learning program but still, if
you can't get the time off to go to their site, you also can't get the time
to sit at work and do it.
This leads me to ask if anyone knows about good CBT training that covers the
tests for CCNP?
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Re: UK2USA

[keith wood]

Stephen,

I placed my CV on www.dice.com and landed a job in NYC inside 1 month.  Not
bad...  I didn't take it as the Yanks dont get enough holidays and the visa
was way too restrictive for a family guy (wife not able to work over there
etc).  The money was in the $100K range though (apparently thats pretty
average for networking guys in NYC).  I believe www.monster.com is not a bad
recruitment site either.

I currently contract through S.Com (www.scom.com) they are pretty good and
have offices in the states (and worldwide) - why dont you give them a go?

Good luck.

keith

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> Guys,
> Your help is required.
> I am sick to the back teeth with the UK and want out!
>
> any advise on where to go ,moving over,places with good job ops.
> or anything else.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve Skinner
>
> MCSE ,CCNA ,CCDA ,PSS ,ACT ,CLS
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a bit OT.. maybe :^)

[Joe]

1st Question - If I were to have a router here and a router in someone elses
house (dual ethernet of course) and added ip helper address to each of them
pointing to the other, would he see all my broadcasts... ie netbeui ... ie
see each other in our net neighborhoods?

2nd Question .. (the OT part) - can anyone point me in a direction on
finding some comprehensive "how to's" for setting up a VPN between
(NON-CISCO) my machine using a cable modem and a friends machine using a DSL
modem... also, if it were done, would we see each other in our net
neighborhoods and be able to map each others drives?

thanks for any help in this...

-Joe-


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CCNA 20

[Rajagopal Iyengar]

Hi All,
I am Rajagopal from India.I am thinking of Pursuing CCNA 20 and I have found 
out that Cisco Press has come out with two books which go as under:

1.ICND(exam No :- 640-507).
2.CCNA 20 Exam Preparation guide.

I am a little confused as to what book am I supposed to buy.
Please suggest which is a better book to buy out of these two.

If not these books are there any other books that are available in the 
Market that satisfy the CCNA 20 Routing & Switching Objectives.

Regards,

Rajagopal Iyengar.

MCSE.


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Re: a bit OT.. maybe :^)

[Dale Holmes]

ANthese routers would be connected how? Through WTWW (Window to Window 
Wiring)? 2 soup cans and some string? Thin Air?

The point is, there could be any number of things in the "atmosphere" that 
would effectively filter out your broadcast crap (and his too...) before it 
got to its destination. With the limited info you have provided, it is not 
very easy to tell...

Dale
[=`)


>From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: a bit OT.. maybe :^)
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 08:59:49 -0400
>
>1st Question - If I were to have a router here and a router in someone 
>elses
>house (dual ethernet of course) and added ip helper address to each of them
>pointing to the other, would he see all my broadcasts... ie netbeui ... ie
>see each other in our net neighborhoods?
>
>2nd Question .. (the OT part) - can anyone point me in a direction on
>finding some comprehensive "how to's" for setting up a VPN between
>(NON-CISCO) my machine using a cable modem and a friends machine using a 
>DSL
>modem... also, if it were done, would we see each other in our net
>neighborhoods and be able to map each others drives?
>
>thanks for any help in this...
>
>-Joe-
>
>
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Re: CCNA 20

[Dale Holmes]

Don't put all your eggs in one basket - buy them both. Also buy Todd 
Lammle's new 2.0 book...

Also, please remember the decimal point in the CCNA version designator. 
People may freak-out if they think that there is a version 20 out there and 
they are still preparing for version 2 (2.0)!

Dale
[=`)


>From: "Rajagopal Iyengar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Rajagopal Iyengar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: CCNA 20
>Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 13:12:35 GMT
>
>Hi All,
>I am Rajagopal from India.I am thinking of Pursuing CCNA 20 and I have 
>found
>out that Cisco Press has come out with two books which go as under:
>
>1.ICND(exam No :- 640-507).
>2.CCNA 20 Exam Preparation guide.
>
>I am a little confused as to what book am I supposed to buy.
>Please suggest which is a better book to buy out of these two.
>
>If not these books are there any other books that are available in the
>Market that satisfy the CCNA 20 Routing & Switching Objectives.
>
>Regards,
>
>Rajagopal Iyengar.
>
>MCSE.
>
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Re: Network Design Question

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>Hey group,
>
>A company HQ has two 3620s each with one T1 into the same frame 
>relay cloud.  There are 20 branch offices with non-Cisco routers 
>pointing into the same FR cloud.  Is there anyway to provide load 
>balancing on the WAN side in this situation?


What problem are you trying to solve by load balancing?  Equalizing 
load on the HQ routers? Reconvergence after failures?  Equalization 
of the load on the T1s?

Is bandwidth optimization more important than increases in 
out-of-sequence packets? Is traffic equal among the sites?


>  I believe that I can use HSRP on the LAN side of HQ, but that is 
>not possible on the WAN.  I cannot use EIGRP because it is Cisco 
>proprietary.
>
>The only solution I see is to build two PVCs at each branch office. 
>One pointing to router 1 at HQ and one pointing to router 2 at HQ. 
>Run OSPF and have half of the branches point to each router.



>
>Does anyone have a solution/advice for this design?
>
>Thanks for your help,  
>Rob
>
>   |---routerA==~===branch1
>  Internal   | ~  Frame 
>Relay  ~===branch2
> LAN| ~ 
>Cloud~===branch3
> 
>|---routerB==~=== etc, etc,

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RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."

[HILVING, JAMES (SBIS)]

I have to say that I was surprised when I found a show command that will
crash a router in the first releases of 12.0. 
The first time I played in a customers 8500 Series running 12.0 I did a
bunch if show commands until I found out Cisco added "show diag ? ". I
decided it would be interesting to try every option possible behind it and
see what was shown. Then, the router completely quit responding. Of course
this happened around 2 AM 800 miles away from my building. So I contacted
the customer to go in and reboot the box. The customer said that all the
lights on the entire chassis were bright red. After the reboot the box
recovered saying possible write erase preformed and of course went right to
the setup dialog. The config was not in the router anyway and the customer
failed to back it up. So of course I spent the next three hours helping the
customer figure out how to restore the configuration by tracing cable and
looking at IP addresses assigned on each machine.   

Now I can't tell my new employees that show commands will never cause a
problem...But if it does you blame it on that Cisco IOS.


James Hilving

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Ben Lovegrove
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:20 AM
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Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1 & 2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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Re:

[Stephen Skinner]

First 

thanks for all the help guys .it IS appreciated (even if i can`t spell)

I`m was born in the UK and have lived here all my life (29 yrs)...

I`m just bored of what is a very good BUT very small country and fancy 
trying my luck in the US...
The job scene is good over here (best place to look is www.JOBSERVE.com)
there are loads of links aswell as lots of jobs on offer.

good luck finding something and if i`m still here when you get here 
we`ll meet and bloody hammered

steve

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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:39:02 +0200 (MEST)
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>I am planning to move to the UK from Germany.
>Can u please advise about job availability in th eUK.
>I am also a MCSE+I, CAN, CCNA and BCRAN.
>At the present I am working for Global one in Frnakfurt.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Zahid
>
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Re: Network Design Question

[NeoLink2000]

In a message dated 8/8/00 10:48:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


<< > I believe that I can use HSRP on the LAN side of HQ, but that is 
>not possible on the WAN. I cannot use EIGRP because it is Cisco 
>proprietary.
 >>

Isn't HSRP used more for fault tolerance than it is for load balancing? 
Actually, I've never even heard of the two (HSRP and Load balancing) going 
together. At least that's what I got from reading up on it. Please let me 
know where I am confused.

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA
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If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ 

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(Off-Topic) Openview vs Sniffer

[NRS Hariharan]

Hi all,
  Iam planning to install a N/w monitoring tool in my site.I like to know
which is better ,Sniffer or HP's OpenView. Sniffer says it holds a market
share of 75% and Hp's is only 16% . Is it true??. Also if possible can anyone
tell me the pros and cons of these two.
   
 Thanks in advance ,


hari


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RE: T1, FT1 and Channelized T1

[Jean Stockton]

fracT = 56k or 64k minimum (generally 64k)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Oz
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:12 AM
> To: Jim Bond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: T1, FT1 and Channelized T1
> 
> 
> T1  = 1.536mbps
> Fractional T1 is 128 k minimum increasing in 64 k chunks
>  Channelized means it can be split up into 24 channels
> 
>  Some folks use the term fulll T which to me means a fat 1.536 meg pipe
> yes I know it listed as 1.544 but thats the gross BW  you lose 8k  in
> housekeeping..
> its  real name should be a DS-1
> 
>  i had great link that explained all this  i will try and find it for you
> 
> Oz
> http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm
> Can someone tell a little on the difference among T1,
> Fractional T1 and Channelized T1? I'm bit confused.
> 
> 
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Re: IP classless/Default routes

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

I believe that is a mistake in Todd's book. You can only have one default
gateway set.
Otherwise the packet would not know where to send the packet.
Duck
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Subject: IP classless/Default routes


>
> In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default
route
> of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter the
> IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):
>
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1
>
> ???
>
>
> The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
> 253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
> network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only use
> default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one exit
> port out of the network."
>
> The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507
exam
> is based on a different IOS?  What gives?
>
>
> Dave Page
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RE: Network Design Question

[Provost, Rob]

Title: RE: Network Design Question





The problems I am trying to solve are reconvergence after failures in HQ and equalization of the load on the T1s.


The traffic is pretty equal among the remote sites. 



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Network Design Question



>Hey group,
>
>A company HQ has two 3620s each with one T1 into the same frame 
>relay cloud.  There are 20 branch offices with non-Cisco routers 
>pointing into the same FR cloud.  Is there anyway to provide load 
>balancing on the WAN side in this situation?



What problem are you trying to solve by load balancing?  Equalizing 
load on the HQ routers? Reconvergence after failures?  Equalization 
of the load on the T1s?


Is bandwidth optimization more important than increases in 
out-of-sequence packets? Is traffic equal among the sites?



>  I believe that I can use HSRP on the LAN side of HQ, but that is 
>not possible on the WAN.  I cannot use EIGRP because it is Cisco 
>proprietary.
>
>The only solution I see is to build two PVCs at each branch office. 
>One pointing to router 1 at HQ and one pointing to router 2 at HQ. 
>Run OSPF and have half of the branches point to each router.




>
>Does anyone have a solution/advice for this design?
>
>Thanks for your help,  
>Rob
>
>   |---routerA==~===branch1
>  Internal   | ~  Frame 
>Relay  ~===branch2
> LAN    | ~ 
>Cloud    ~===branch3
> 
>|---routerB==~=== etc, etc,


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Re: CBT Training Options

[Hutson, Philip:]

If you're in the states there is a law that stops or reduces sales calls.
Tell them to add you to their do not call list and get a name. Write down
the time and date of the call and who you talked to. After that they pay you
$500 every time they call you. 
-Philip

>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:27:42 -0700
>From: "Bharat Suneja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: CBT Training Options (CCNP)

>Besides, I think ForeFront (now SmartCertify) sales guys are TOO PUSHY AND
>PERSISTENT - they kept calling me repeatedly inspite of the fact that I got
>really annoyed with them and clearly asked
>them never to call me again and that I'm NOT interested at all in their
>product any more.

>I write this to the group so that everyone thinks twice before leaving
their
>name/address/phone number/e-mail on their web site before downloading the
>demos - earlier today I was woken up by the same over-zealous sales guy
from
>Forefront and it wasn't the first time grrr   ("Oh, I was
>wondering if you're still interested in the CCNA CBT NO, I'M NOT -
>REPEAT - NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN CCNA CBT FROM YOUR COMPANY.. NOW >WHAT
>PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ???")

>The sales tactics used : The list price of the CCNA CBT is $1800, but
>they'll give you all kinds of discounts (bring the price down to about
$1200
>or so), and if you express your inability to buy an expensive CBT product
>(which isn't worth the money, imho, going by the demo I downloaded), they
>will try to sell you all kinds of installment plans to sell you the CBT,
>throw in freebies (buy CCNA 1.0 now and we'll throw in CCNA 2.0/ICND for
>free)... anything to make you buy!

>CAVEAT EMPTOR

>My $0.02 worth... :-)

>Bharat Suneja

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CCNA Exam

[Alex]

I'm taking CCNA exam tomorrow any advices would be appreciated.
Thank in advanced.
 Alex



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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[dacarl4]

Dave, 

If you have a CCO login check this page out.  It explains the differences
between Default Gateway, Gateway of last resort, and default network.  If
you don't have a CCO login, let me know and I will paraphrase the article.  

Hope this helps.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/105/default.html




 -Original Message-
From:   Dave Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, August 07, 2000 7:05 PM
To: 'Cisco List'
Subject:IP classless/Default routes


In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default route
of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter the
IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1

???


The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only use
default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one exit
port out of the network."

The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507 exam
is based on a different IOS?  What gives?


Dave Page

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Router to DSL line compatibility

[Frank Wells]

Hey folks,
Has anyone used a dual ethernet router to connect their home LAN's to a DSL 
to ISP line?  I was wondering if I could get by without having to buy a DSL 
router of sorts.  Does a 25xx or 26xx dual ethernet router even have the 
ability to route DSL?

If I do need to get a DSL router, which model would you recommend based on 
the premise I would like to be able to play with some NAT configs and some 
VPDN kind of stuff too.

I am currently using a Alcatel DSL box and static IP from the ISP.

Thanks a lot.

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Question about BSCN

[J. Scott Branscum]

I passed CCNA 1.0 late July.  Now moving on to CCNP 2.0.  I have CCNP Preparation 
Library for CCNP 1.0 + BCMSN.  I'm thinking of moving on to ACRC and CLSC since BSCN 
is not out yet.  Or should I just go on to BCMSN?  Are Boson tests the best practice 
software to use for CCNP 2.0?  Is ACRC and CLSC Exam Guide useful?  If not, what do I 
use in place of these?
I know that ACRC has a companion ACRC Exam Guide, but what is the main text for CLSC 
Exam Guide?

I use mostly Cisco Press books for study.

Not able to pay high costs of classes, so self study is the only way I can go. 

Thanks,
Scott

J. Scott Branscum, Novell Master CNE, Cisco Certified Network Associate
Clackamas Community College
Department of Information Technology Services
Barlow Building, Room 102
19600 S. Molalla Avenue
Oregon City, OR  97045
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Re: IP classless/Default routes

[Adam Hickey]

No, there is nothing incongruous here. You add the static route for the
default route which tells the router that "if you don't know where the
destination is, just shove it out over here". Lammle has to use the two
static route commands because router B is in the middle of two networks. So
when router B doesn't know of the destination it has to shove the packet out
two sides so that each of the other networks can take a look at it and
decide what to do with it.

It is this kind of confusion that leads to the use of synamic protocols
rather than static routes.

Adam Hickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: "'Cisco List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: IP classless/Default routes


>
> In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default
route
> of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter the
> IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):
>
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1
>
> ???
>
>
> The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
> 253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
> network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only use
> default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one exit
> port out of the network."
>
> The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507
exam
> is based on a different IOS?  What gives?
>
>
> Dave Page
>
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Strange one (for me at least)

[Nabil Fares]

Greetings,

I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came back
with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
happens and can I force the router to accept it.

Thank you,

Nabil

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DMZ using DSL

[Frank Wells]

Hey folks,
If I wanted to setup a DMZ using DSL as my Internet connection, what kind of 
router(s) would you use to give me the three ethernet connections I would 
need?

--
LAN-  --DSL
--
   |
   |
  DMZ

Cheers

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RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."

[McMasters, Eric]

That also falls in-line with when we wanted to see what "debug all" would do
on the core router.  After about a minute of continuous logging messages it
just stopped working.  Again we had to reboot the router and we were somehow
able to blame it on the server guys!  "Sir, the NT servers were generating
excessive broadcasts which filled the routers buffers and forced it to shut
down.  You know Sir you really should talk to those server guys about
configuring their equipment right."  Ah the good ole' days, huh Mike!!!

Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer

Phone:913.859.1986
PCS:913.485.9734
Fax: 913.859.1234


-Original Message-
From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


Too funny.  I can think of one incident about 4 years back when I was in the
military and we didn't know anything about configuring cisco equipment.  A
friend of mine who lurks on this list like me (you know who you are Eric)
and myself were trying to play a prank on a fellow co-worker and block
traffic on his computer.  We thought of an ACL to block his IP address but
he was smart enough to change it if we did that.  So we settled on creating
a filter by mac address.  The problem was we couldn't apply it to the
interface so after a little reading we figured the interface needed to be in
a bridge group to apply this ACL.  Now, this interface was serving our
entire building which was the Communications Squadron for the base.
Needless to say when when everyone in the building started yelling we
rebooted it and blamed it on a software crash on the router (hey these
things happen:)...

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1 & 2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



=
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Redspan Solutions Ltd
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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[Chuck Larrieu]

In many cases, one can substitute the word "public" for "customer" and get
the same info

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/default.html


best wishes

Chuck

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Dave,

If you have a CCO login check this page out.  It explains the differences
between Default Gateway, Gateway of last resort, and default network.  If
you don't have a CCO login, let me know and I will paraphrase the article.

Hope this helps.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/105/default.html




 -Original Message-
From:   Dave Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, August 07, 2000 7:05 PM
To: 'Cisco List'
Subject:IP classless/Default routes


In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default route
of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter the
IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1

???


The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only use
default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one exit
port out of the network."

The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507 exam
is based on a different IOS?  What gives?


Dave Page

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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[Fomes Iain]

could be its missing it's weight   
i.e a weighted default gateway to prevent it dropping the packet if the
interface is not up 
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1 3   3 being the weight

> -Original Message-
> From: Donald B Johnson Jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday 08 August 2000 19:15
> To:   Dave Page; 'Cisco List'
> Subject:  Re: IP classless/Default routes
> 
> I believe that is a mistake in Todd's book. You can only have one default
> gateway set.
> Otherwise the packet would not know where to send the packet.
> Duck
> - Original Message -
> From: Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> 
> >
> > In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default
> route
> > of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter
> the
> > IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):
> >
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1
> >
> > ???
> >
> >
> > The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
> > 253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
> > network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only
> use
> > default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one
> exit
> > port out of the network."
> >
> > The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507
> exam
> > is based on a different IOS?  What gives?
> >
> >
> > Dave Page
> >
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BSCN

[Lance Warner]

Hello. I have been waiting for a BSCN book to be released but I don't want
to wait any longer. I've searched Amazon but the only book they have
scheduled for release is one on the 14th. My question is, can anyone
recommend a BSCN book for study. Thanks for any suggestions.

Lance Warner
Network Operations Center
First American Corporation
(714)800-4105


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2-wire and 4-wire 56K DSU/CSU

[Fanglo MA]

Dear group,

I get a 56DSU/CSU cisco router, however, my company connection to one
site by 64K leased line is a 2-wire connection to DSU/CSU. I search
cisco page and find that the default for the new router, it is 1602, is
for 4-wire connection. Would anyone show the way or URL for testing this
1602 with the two-wire connection?

Thanks for any advice.

Best regards,
Fanglo MA

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Re: Strange one (for me at least)

[John Neiberger]

It sounds like you're trying to assign IP addresses from the same subnet to
two different interfaces, which you can't do.  By definition, each interface
on a router needs to be in a different subnet.

HTH,
John 

>  Greetings,
>  
>  I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
>  xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came
back
>  with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why
this
>  happens and can I force the router to accept it.
>  
>  Thank you,
>  
>  Nabil
>  
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Re: Network Design Question

[Karen . Young]

I wouldn't call it load-balancing so much as it's load-sharing. On routers
where you have multiple interfaces for VLANs configured, you can make one
router the primary for certain interfaces/VLANs and the second router the
primary for the rest.

Here's a sample config showing what I mean.

Router01
===
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 speed 100
 full-duplex

interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 description default VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 1
 ip address 10.10.0.2 255.255.255.0
 standby 1 priority 110
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.10.0.1
 standby 1 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 description Restricted VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 101
 ip address 10.101.0.2 255.255.0.0
 standby 1 priority 110
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.101.0.1
 standby 1 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.3
 description Labs VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 102
 ip address 10.102.0.2 255.255.0.0
 standby 1 priority 110
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.102.0.1
 standby 1 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.4
 description Corporate VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 103
 ip address 10.103.0.2 255.255.0.0
 standby 2 priority 100
 standby 2 preempt
 standby 2 ip 10.103.0.1
 standby 2 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast

Router02
==
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 speed 100
 full-duplex

interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 description default VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 1
 ip address 10.10.0.3 255.255.255.0
 standby 1 priority 100
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.10.0.1
 standby 1 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 description Restricted VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 101
 ip address 10.101.0.3 255.255.0.0
 standby 1 priority 100
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.101.0.1
 standby 1 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.3
 description Labs VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 102
 ip address 10.102.0.3 255.255.0.0
 standby 1 priority 100
 standby 1 preempt
 standby 1 ip 10.102.0.1
 standby 1 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.4
 description Corporate VLAN
 encapsulation dot1Q 103
 ip address 10.103.0.3 255.255.0.0
 standby 2 priority 110
 standby 2 preempt
 standby 2 ip 10.103.0.1
 standby 2 track FastEthernet 0/0 15
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.1
 ip helper-address 10.103.1.2
 no ip directed-broadcast


Hope this helps.

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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<< > I believe that I can use HSRP on the LAN side

Re: Router to DSL line compatibility

[Minh Vu]

Yes, you can get any Cisco router with dual ethernet.

I have Alcatel 1000 DSL modem (output ethernet) connected to Eth0 (Cisco
3202) and NAT thru Eth1. This case if you have only one IP from ISP and your
private LAN.  It work great for me.

Good Luck.




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- Original Message -
From: "Frank Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:48 AM
Subject: Router to DSL line compatibility


> Hey folks,
> Has anyone used a dual ethernet router to connect their home LAN's to a
DSL
> to ISP line?  I was wondering if I could get by without having to buy a
DSL
> router of sorts.  Does a 25xx or 26xx dual ethernet router even have the
> ability to route DSL?
>
> If I do need to get a DSL router, which model would you recommend based on
> the premise I would like to be able to play with some NAT configs and some
> VPDN kind of stuff too.
>
> I am currently using a Alcatel DSL box and static IP from the ISP.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> 
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Re: Strange one (for me at least)

[Minh Vu]

You need to assign two different subnet on your router.
i.e IP Ethernet 0 : 10.0.0.1
IP Serial 0 : 20.0.0.2

You can not set same subnet on the router because function of router is
route from one subnet to another subnet.


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- Original Message -
From: "Nabil Fares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: Strange one (for me at least)


> Greetings,
>
> I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
> xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came
back
> with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
> happens and can I force the router to accept it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nabil
>
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RE: Strange one (for me at least)

[Aaron K. Dixon]

You can't put an Ethernet and Serial interface in the same subnet.  If you
needed to be in the same subnet you would do bridging between the
interfaces.  I don't know what mask you were trying to use, but even if you
used a /30 this would work.  Your network address would be 0, hosts 1 and 2,
broadcast of 3.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Nabil Fares
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Strange one (for me at least)


Greetings,

I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came back
with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
happens and can I force the router to accept it.

Thank you,

Nabil

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Need recomendation

[Patrick Stiever]

Ladies and Gentleman,

I need another recommendation, I have about a dozen or so routers,
LocalDirectors, and Switches here at our HQ, I would like to buy something
like a 2509 router so I can hook them up from their console port to the
2509's async port.  That way I don't have to run back to the NOC with
laptop, cable, and  try to console in.  Basically, I need a info on what
piece of equipment would be best suited for this application.  Thanks again.

Patrick Stiever 
Communications Engineer 
24 Hour Fitness 
(760) 918 4459 
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Re: Strange one (for me at least)

[William Swedberg]

No you cannot fource it.  You cannot have the same IP
subnet on 2 different interfaces of the same router.


William Swedberg CCNP CCDP

--- Nabil Fares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet
> interface ip
> xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface
> xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came back
> with an error message the ip addresses are
> overlapping.  Any idea why this
> happens and can I force the router to accept it.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Nabil
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RE: pix vpn to non-pix vpn

[Chris Larson]

YOu should be able to if everyone is following IPSec standards. The only
problem I have run into is compatibility with IKE and other ISAKMP
implementations. We end up doing IPSEC Manual keying to get around this.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: pix vpn to non-pix vpn


Has anybody configured a pix for vpn access to a non-pix firewall for
vpn access so there is a vpn between the pix and the non-pix?  Sonicwall
claims they can do this.

If so do you have a sample config?

Thanks
Mike.

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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[William Swedberg]

I think you mean Administrative Distance.

William Swedberg CCNP CCDP

--- Fomes Iain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> could be its missing it's weight   
> i.e a weighted default gateway to prevent it
> dropping the packet if the
> interface is not up 
>ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
>ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1 3   3 being
> the weight
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Donald B Johnson Jr
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Tuesday 08 August 2000 19:15
> > To: Dave Page; 'Cisco List'
> > Subject:Re: IP classless/Default routes
> > 
> > I believe that is a mistake in Todd's book. You
> can only have one default
> > gateway set.
> > Otherwise the packet would not know where to send
> the packet.
> > Duck
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Cisco List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 5:05 PM
> > Subject: IP classless/Default routes
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p.
> 202 he has set a default
> > route
> > > of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does
> one do this, just enter
> > the
> > > IP route command as such, one right after the
> other (??):
> > >
> > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
> > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1
> > >
> > > ???
> > >
> > >
> > > The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA
> 640-507, he states on page
> > > 253, "Default routing is used to send packets
> with a remote destination
> > > network not in the routing table to the next hop
> router.  You can only
> > use
> > > default routing on stub networks, which means
> that they have only one
> > exit
> > > port out of the network."
> > >
> > > The two books seem to say contradictory things. 
> Is it because the 507
> > exam
> > > is based on a different IOS?  What gives?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Page
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Great CCDA Study Site

[Paul Immo]

I just passed my CCDA yesturday, I used mainly the
material from this site!

http://www.ccxxproductions.bigstep.com/

Check them out

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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[Karen . Young]

Or you could substitute "public" for "customer" in the URL and get to it
anyway.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/default.html

Karen E Young
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Dave,

If you have a CCO login check this page out.  It explains the differences
between Default Gateway, Gateway of last resort, and default network.  If
you don't have a CCO login, let me know and I will paraphrase the article.


Hope this helps.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/105/default.html




 -Original Message-
From:   Dave Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, August 07, 2000 7:05 PM
To:'Cisco List'
Subject:IP classless/Default routes


In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default
route
of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter the
IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1

???


The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only use
default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one exit
port out of the network."

The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507 exam
is based on a different IOS?  What gives?


Dave Page

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Re: Strange one (for me at least)

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>Greetings,
>
>I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
>xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came back
>with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
>happens and can I force the router to accept it.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Nabil


What is your subnetting plan? The answer to the problem lies in subnetting.

Why do you want to force the router to accept it?

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Re: Need recomendation

[Frank Wells]

2511 has 16 async ports.


>From: Patrick Stiever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Patrick Stiever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Need recomendation
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:31:20 -0700
>
>Ladies and Gentleman,
>
>   I need another recommendation, I have about a dozen or so routers,
>LocalDirectors, and Switches here at our HQ, I would like to buy something
>like a 2509 router so I can hook them up from their console port to the
>2509's async port.  That way I don't have to run back to the NOC with
>laptop, cable, and  try to console in.  Basically, I need a info on what
>piece of equipment would be best suited for this application.  Thanks 
>again.
>
>Patrick Stiever
>Communications Engineer
>24 Hour Fitness
>(760) 918 4459
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: (Off-Topic) Openview vs Sniffer

[Dale Holmes]

It's like trying to decide between a Microscope and a Petri dish...

These are two very different tools... You should probably buy them both!

Dale
[=`)


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>Date: 8 Aug 00 20:46:34 IST
>
>Hi all,
>   Iam planning to install a N/w monitoring tool in my site.I like to 
>know
>which is better ,Sniffer or HP's OpenView. Sniffer says it holds a market
>share of 75% and Hp's is only 16% . Is it true??. Also if possible can 
>anyone
>tell me the pros and cons of these two.
>
>  Thanks in advance ,
>
>
>hari
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RE: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?

[Chee Tong Sim]

Then how to get the 5505# configuration of RSM module (internal router) from 
5505> prompt, after I type 5505> en  ENTER password   it will guide me to 
5505> (enable)  mode.   How to go to 5505# from 5505>  using different 
password or command?



>From: Bosio Stefano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "'Sim, CT (Chee Tong)'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches?  any one know?
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:49:55 +0200
>
>1)
>The first one
>
> > SOMETAROU#sh conf
> > Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> > !
> > version 11.2
> > no service password-encryption
>.
>
>is the configuration of RSM module (internal router)
>
>the second one
>
> > sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> > .
> > ..
> > ..
> > ..
> >
> > begin
> > set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> > set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> > set prompt Console>
>...
>
>is the configuratione of the switch (supervisor)
>
>2) 5505> (enable) session  (es. session 4)
>
>
>Stefano
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: martedì 8 agosto 2000 9.59
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?
> >
> >
> > Hi..Dear friends,  I was very confused with the confuration
> > file of 5505, my
> > colleages send me two configuration file in Tokyo.
> >
> > One start with SOMETAROU#sh conf
> >
> > Another one start with sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> >
> > and two of them give me different configuration, (see below)
> >
> > 1)can any one tell me, what is the different?
> >
> > 2)I can telnet to my backbone switches, after I type 5505>en
> > password
> > it gives me 5505>(enable) prompt then what should I type to
> > get the 5505#
> > prompt
> >
> > 3)What is the special function 5505 back bone switch?  Can
> > you use normal
> > switch like 1900, 2900 to replace it?  (optional)
> >
> >
> > &&
> > &&
> > &&
> > SOMETAROU#sh conf
> > Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> > !
> > version 11.2
> > no service password-encryption
> > no service udp-small-servers
> > no service tcp-small-servers
> > !
> > hostname SOMETAROU
> > !
> > enable secret 5 $1$0U5tyfSAgpNPpsjXQ4xGI/
> > !
> > !
> > interface Vlan1
> >  description RABO-JP
> >  ip address 57.198.45.251 255.255.255.0
> >  ip broadcast-address 57.198.45.255
> >  no ip redirects
> >  standby 1 priority 100
> >  standby 1 preempt
> >  standby 1 ip 57.198.45.250
> > !
> > &&
> > &&
> > 
> > sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> > .
> > ..
> > .
> > ..
> > ..
> > ..
> > ..
> >
> > begin
> > set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> > set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> > set prompt Console>
> > set length 24 default
> > set logout 20
> > set banner motd ^C
> >
> > 
> > * Catalyst 5505 #2 *
> > * SupervisorEngine *
> > *sometarou *
> > 
> > ^C
> > !
> > #system
> > set system baud  9600
> > set system modem disable
> > set system name  sometarou
> > set system location
> > set system contact
> > !
> > #snmp
> > set snmp community read-only  public
> > set snmp community read-write private
> > set snmp community read-write-all secret
> > set snmp rmon disable
> > set snmp trap disable module
> > set snmp trap disable chassis
> > set snmp trap disable bridge
> >
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RE: T1, FT1 and Channelized T1

[Drew Mooney]

Channelized implies that it's destined for circuit based equipment - for example, a 
PBX - to handle circuit switched voice and/or data traffic. 

Channelized means that the T1's [or FT1's] bandwidth is TDM'd [Time Division 
Multiplexed] into discrete 64k chunks. [even if there's only 56k available to handle 
voice/data traffic - there's still 64k chunks].

The discrete chunks lend themselves very well to synchronized switching and 
cross-connection - as in a PBX or any telephone switch.

An unchannelized T1 is just a data pipe Nx64k wide. It's generally what would be at 
the router side of a CSU/DSU - more suitable for packet switched applications.

This is - in a way - an oversimplification of this stuff, but I hope it's helping

Drew

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-Original Message-
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Sent:Tue, 08 Aug 2000 11:12:32 -0400
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: T1, FT1 and Channelized T1


fracT = 56k or 64k minimum (generally 64k)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Oz
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:12 AM
> To: Jim Bond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: T1, FT1 and Channelized T1
> 
> 
> T1  = 1.536mbps
> Fractional T1 is 128 k minimum increasing in 64 k chunks
>  Channelized means it can be split up into 24 channels
> 
>  Some folks use the term fulll T which to me means a fat 1.536 meg pipe
> yes I know it listed as 1.544 but thats the gross BW  you lose 8k  in
> housekeeping..
> its  real name should be a DS-1
> 
>  i had great link that explained all this  i will try and find it for you
> 
> Oz
> http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm
> Can someone tell a little on the difference among T1,
> Fractional T1 and Channelized T1? I'm bit confused.
> 
> 
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Delete this test..

[Alan McCrank]

Test only

RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ."

[Cohen, Michael]

Yeah, those were the good ole' days.  Wait a minute...I WAS a server guy!?!

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: McMasters, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:57 AM
To: 'Cohen, Michael'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when .
. . ."


That also falls in-line with when we wanted to see what "debug all" would do
on the core router.  After about a minute of continuous logging messages it
just stopped working.  Again we had to reboot the router and we were somehow
able to blame it on the server guys!  "Sir, the NT servers were generating
excessive broadcasts which filled the routers buffers and forced it to shut
down.  You know Sir you really should talk to those server guys about
configuring their equipment right."  Ah the good ole' days, huh Mike!!!

Eric L. McMasters, CCNP/CCDA
OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer

Phone:913.859.1986
PCS:913.485.9734
Fax: 913.859.1234


-Original Message-
From: Cohen, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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. . ."


Too funny.  I can think of one incident about 4 years back when I was in the
military and we didn't know anything about configuring cisco equipment.  A
friend of mine who lurks on this list like me (you know who you are Eric)
and myself were trying to play a prank on a fellow co-worker and block
traffic on his computer.  We thought of an ACL to block his IP address but
he was smart enough to change it if we did that.  So we settled on creating
a filter by mac address.  The problem was we couldn't apply it to the
interface so after a little reading we figured the interface needed to be in
a bridge group to apply this ACL.  Now, this interface was serving our
entire building which was the Communications Squadron for the base.
Needless to say when when everyone in the building started yelling we
rebooted it and blamed it on a software crash on the router (hey these
things happen:)...

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: Ben Lovegrove [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . .
."


(tongue firmly in cheek)

I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking
engineer when . . . .

1.  You have run a debug command on a customer router while
investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and
you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed.

2.  You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you
have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are
now locked out.  

3.  In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the
Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot
the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem .
. blah . . blah"

4.  In each of points 1 & 2 the customer in question is a major account
that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to
maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have you every felt that cold
feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the
screen froze?  Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e.
anybody and anything but not yourself?

;-)

Ben



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Re: Question about BSCN

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

The v1.0 tests have been retired. I would suggest going for the v2.0 track.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: J. Scott Branscum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:51 AM
Subject: Question about BSCN


I passed CCNA 1.0 late July.  Now moving on to CCNP 2.0.  I have CCNP
Preparation Library for CCNP 1.0 + BCMSN.  I'm thinking of moving on to ACRC
and CLSC since BSCN is not out yet.  Or should I just go on to BCMSN?  Are
Boson tests the best practice software to use for CCNP 2.0?  Is ACRC and
CLSC Exam Guide useful?  If not, what do I use in place of these?
I know that ACRC has a companion ACRC Exam Guide, but what is the main text
for CLSC Exam Guide?

I use mostly Cisco Press books for study.

Not able to pay high costs of classes, so self study is the only way I can
go.

Thanks,
Scott

J. Scott Branscum, Novell Master CNE, Cisco Certified Network Associate
Clackamas Community College
Department of Information Technology Services
Barlow Building, Room 102
19600 S. Molalla Avenue
Oregon City, OR  97045
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Re: Need recomendation

[Kenneth]

why not just get a Console Management Switch? It's much cheaper than buying
a router to manage other routers.

Here's a pretty good brand: WTI, their website is at www.wti.com

The cheapest one I think is a 4 port cosole that costs around $90.00 at CDW.

these boxes have a 10BaseT interface so you can telnet to it (it supports
it) and control the routers connected to its console.

Way cheaper this way... hope this helps.


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> Ladies and Gentleman,
>
> I need another recommendation, I have about a dozen or so routers,
> LocalDirectors, and Switches here at our HQ, I would like to buy something
> like a 2509 router so I can hook them up from their console port to the
> 2509's async port.  That way I don't have to run back to the NOC with
> laptop, cable, and  try to console in.  Basically, I need a info on what
> piece of equipment would be best suited for this application.  Thanks
again.
>
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Re: Need recomendation

[David C Prall]

> I need another recommendation, I have about a dozen or so routers,
> LocalDirectors, and Switches here at our HQ, I would like to buy
something
> like a 2509 router so I can hook them up from their console port to
the
> 2509's async port.  That way I don't have to run back to the NOC with
> laptop, cable, and  try to console in.  Basically, I need a info on
what
> piece of equipment would be best suited for this application.  Thanks
again.
>
Patrick,
I would recommend a 2511RJ. This way you can just use the correct
console cable. The octal cables are rollovers, but if you have a
catalyst that needs a straight-thru you will then need to daisy-chain
another rollover.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2500/prodlit/2500a_ds.htm

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Re: DMZ using DSL

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

Linksys sell a real cheap DSL router that connects to your dsl modem
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Frank Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: DMZ using DSL


> Hey folks,
> If I wanted to setup a DMZ using DSL as my Internet connection, what kind
of
> router(s) would you use to give me the three ethernet connections I would
> need?
>
> --
> LAN-  --DSL
> --
>|
>|
>   DMZ
>
> Cheers
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Need opinions on Netcracker

[Chance, Larry]

Hello everyone,

I'm evaluating a network design program called,
Netcracker Professional (unusual name, huh!)
 http://www.avdinc.com
Are there any folks on this list-server that's used it
and can share your thoughts on how you like it?

I've used it to discover my network and it has
a neat map with all my routers and switches.
It's supposed to allow various 'what-if' type of
changes.  I only have seven days to eval
it so I gotta hurry.

Also, BSCN class is available for my area in October.
Is that a good start for CCNP 2.0?  I just passed CCNA.


Cheers,

Larry

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Re: Strange one (for me at least)

[Dale Holmes]

Are you saying that the xxx octets are the same (i.e. A.B.C.1 and A.B.C.2)?

If so, then you are trying to tell the router that its Ethernet interface 
and its Serial interface are connected to the same network, which is almost 
certianly not the case... Why would you want to do such a thing?

Since Howard didn't say it, I will:

What is the problem that you are trying to solve by forcing the router to 
believe that these interfaces are on the same network?

Dale
[=`)

>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Strange one (for me at least)
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:59:18 -0400
>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
>>xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came 
>>back
>>with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
>>happens and can I force the router to accept it.
>>
>>Thank you,
>>
>>Nabil
>
>
>What is your subnetting plan? The answer to the problem lies in subnetting.
>
>Why do you want to force the router to accept it?
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Re: Strange one (for me at least)

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

We need the rest of the ip address but i think you are trying to put both
interfaces on the same subnet.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Nabil Fares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: Strange one (for me at least)


> Greetings,
>
> I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
> xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came
back
> with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
> happens and can I force the router to accept it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nabil
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RE: 2-wire and 4-wire 56K DSU/CSU

[David Jones]

I believe that the built-in CSU/DSU on the 1602's will only support 56k.  If
you have a 64k circuit, you will need to buy a serial interface card and an
external 64k CSU/DSU.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Fanglo MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 11:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2-wire and 4-wire 56K DSU/CSU


Dear group,

I get a 56DSU/CSU cisco router, however, my company connection to one
site by 64K leased line is a 2-wire connection to DSU/CSU. I search
cisco page and find that the default for the new router, it is 1602, is
for 4-wire connection. Would anyone show the way or URL for testing this
1602 with the two-wire connection?

Thanks for any advice.

Best regards,
Fanglo MA

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Re: (Off-Topic) Openview vs Sniffer

[Minh Vu]

Have you try EtherPeek yet ? they have free download for 30 days use.  It
will show you the detail about users access and access protocol.

Here is the link : http://www.aggroup.com/products/etherpeek





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From: "Dale Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: (Off-Topic) Openview vs Sniffer


> It's like trying to decide between a Microscope and a Petri dish...
>
> These are two very different tools... You should probably buy them both!
>
> Dale
> [=`)
>
>
> >From: NRS Hariharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: NRS Hariharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: (Off-Topic) Openview vs Sniffer
> >Date: 8 Aug 00 20:46:34 IST
> >
> >Hi all,
> >   Iam planning to install a N/w monitoring tool in my site.I like to
> >know
> >which is better ,Sniffer or HP's OpenView. Sniffer says it holds a market
> >share of 75% and Hp's is only 16% . Is it true??. Also if possible can
> >anyone
> >tell me the pros and cons of these two.
> >
> >  Thanks in advance ,
> >
> >
> >hari
> >
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Re: (Off-Topic) Openview vs Sniffer

[Shawn T. Carroll]

It would help to tell us more about what you're monitoring and in what
detail.

With a lot of nodes on your network often the only thing you need to know
at the highest level is "is it up".  If it's not, you can drill into where
it's not working telnet here and there, etc. or use the monitoring ap that
came with your device.

How big is your network?  Now many nodes, how many different things
running over the wires?  i.e. IPX, SNA, or just IP?  How many different
applications?

Sniffers on your network (at strategic points) will allow you to
monitor/troubleshoot to an almost infinitely small level of detail, but
you need two things to go along with it:  1. the skill and experience to
use it, and 2. the money to buy the agents and console software.

-Shawn

Shawn T. Carroll
Network Support Specialist
Alltel Information Services
Williston, VT
802 872 2933

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>Hi all,
>  Iam planning to install a N/w monitoring tool in my site.I like to know
>which is better ,Sniffer or HP's OpenView. Sniffer says it holds a market
>share of 75% and Hp's is only 16% . Is it true??. Also if possible can anyone
>tell me the pros and cons of these two.
>   
> Thanks in advance ,
>
>
>hari
>
>
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Dr. Watson The Network Detectives Assistant

[Thomas Lisa]

While surfing I came across this Net Analyzer on Karl Auerbach's site:
www.cavebear.com/dwtnda and was wondering if anyone had used it.  I am
thinking of incorporating it into our CCNP curriculum next year.  It
appears to be a free download although I'm not certain as I haven't
tried yet.  Any comments on it's usefulness, ease of installation, etc.?

TIA,

Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

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IP classless/Default routes

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

Dave
Let me clear this up a little, you can place more than one default route in
the routing table but the router will only use the first entry.
If that link goes down the next default route will be used.
Here is the config,
interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast

interface Ethernet0/1
 ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast

Router#conf
Configuring from terminal, memory, or network [terminal]?
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Router(config)#ip routing
Router(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.3
Router(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.3
Router(config)#^Z
Router#
00:08:49: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console

Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.1.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.1.3
[1/0] via 10.1.2.3
Router#
Notice that the first ip route entry is the Gateway of last resort. Now
watch what happens when I disconnect the cable to E0/0

Router#
00:15:20: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/0,
changed s
tate to down
Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.2.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.3
Router#
Now notice that the second ip route entry is the Gateway of last resort. Now
watch what happens when I reconnect the E0/0 cable.

Router#
00:19:27: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/0,
changed s
tate to up
Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.2.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.3
[1/0] via 10.1.1.3
Router#
The original default gateway is now the backup route. If you want to install
the first route as the one to use after the link is brought back up, issue a
shutdown-no shutdown command on the interface that points to the current
default gateway.

Router#conf
Configuring from terminal, memory, or network [terminal]?
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Router(config)#int e0/1
Router(config-if)#shutdown
Router(config-if)#
00:24:35: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet0/1, changed state to
administrativ
ely down
00:24:36: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/1,
changed s
tate to down
Router(config-if)#no sh
Router(config-if)#
00:24:49: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet0/1, changed state to up
00:24:50: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/1,
changed s
tate to up
Router(config-if)#^Z
Router#
00:24:55: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.1.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.1.3
[1/0] via 10.1.2.3
Router#
Notice that this will insert our original Gateway of last resort.
Sorry for the HTML but I wanted to use color to illustrate the key commands
and

RE: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one know?

[Daniel Cotts]

>From the 5505>(enable) prompt enter "show module"
>From that display determine in which slot the router (RSM) card is located.
As Stefano gave in his reply we can imagine that it is in slot 4. Then enter
"session 4". You will verify the slot as given above. That will get you to
the 5505# prompt. It may require passwords just as a router will. 
The router module may be a daughter card on the Supervisor engine. I believe
that it is called a Router Switch Feature Card (RSFC). Then enter "session
15".

> -Original Message-
> From: Chee Tong Sim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? any one
> know?
> 
> 
> Then how to get the 5505# configuration of RSM module 
> (internal router) from 
> 5505> prompt, after I type 5505> en  ENTER password   it will 
> guide me to 
> 5505> (enable)  mode.   How to go to 5505# from 5505>  using 
> different 
> password or command?
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Bosio Stefano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Bosio Stefano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Sim, CT (Chee Tong)'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches?  
> any one know?
> >Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:49:55 +0200
> >
> >1)
> >The first one
> >
> > > SOMETAROU#sh conf
> > > Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> > > !
> > > version 11.2
> > > no service password-encryption
> >.
> >
> >is the configuration of RSM module (internal router)
> >
> >the second one
> >
> > > sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> > > .
> > > ..
> > > ..
> > > ..
> > >
> > > begin
> > > set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> > > set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> > > set prompt Console>
> >...
> >
> >is the configuratione of the switch (supervisor)
> >
> >2) 5505> (enable) session  (es. session 4)
> >
> >
> >Stefano
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: martedì 8 agosto 2000 9.59
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: why the prompt is different for 5505 switches? 
> any one know?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi..Dear friends,  I was very confused with the confuration
> > > file of 5505, my
> > > colleages send me two configuration file in Tokyo.
> > >
> > > One start with SOMETAROU#sh conf
> > >
> > > Another one start with sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> > >
> > > and two of them give me different configuration, (see below)
> > >
> > > 1)can any one tell me, what is the different?
> > >
> > > 2)I can telnet to my backbone switches, after I type 5505>en
> > > password
> > > it gives me 5505>(enable) prompt then what should I type to
> > > get the 5505#
> > > prompt
> > >
> > > 3)What is the special function 5505 back bone switch?  Can
> > > you use normal
> > > switch like 1900, 2900 to replace it?  (optional)
> > >
> > >
> > > &&
> > > &&
> > > &&
> > > SOMETAROU#sh conf
> > > Using 1961 out of 126968 bytes
> > > !
> > > version 11.2
> > > no service password-encryption
> > > no service udp-small-servers
> > > no service tcp-small-servers
> > > !
> > > hostname SOMETAROU
> > > !
> > > enable secret 5 $1$0U5tyfSAgpNPpsjXQ4xGI/
> > > !
> > > !
> > > interface Vlan1
> > >  description RABO-JP
> > >  ip address 57.198.45.251 255.255.255.0
> > >  ip broadcast-address 57.198.45.255
> > >  no ip redirects
> > >  standby 1 priority 100
> > >  standby 1 preempt
> > >  standby 1 ip 57.198.45.250
> > > !
> > > &&
> > > &&
> > > 
> > > sometarou> (enable) sh conf
> > > .
> > > ..
> > > .
> > > ..
> > > ..
> > > ..
> > > ..
> > >
> > > begin
> > > set password $1$PEV9$MXJwjj4umvPJ7aj.0KeUa.
> > > set enablepass $1$3Las$CDZgLGUVTKg7qozn9jnsK0
> > > set prompt Console>
> > > set length 24 default
> > > set logout 20
> > > set banner motd ^C
> > >
> > > 
> > > * Catalyst 5505 #2 *
> > > * SupervisorEngine *
> > > *sometarou *
> > > 
> > > ^C
> > > !
> > > #system
> > > set system baud  9600
> > > set system modem disable
> > > set system name  sometarou
> > > set system location
> > > set system contact
> > > !
> > > #snmp
> > > set snmp community read-only  public
> > > set snmp community read-write private
> > > set snmp community read-write-all secret
> > > set snmp rmon disable
> > > set snmp trap disable module
> > > set snmp trap disable chassis
> > > set snmp trap disable bridge
> > >
> > >
> > > ==
> > > De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en
> > > is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht
> > > onterecht ontvangt wordt u ve

CCIE Written Passed

[therussells]

Well, I finally passed with a 72%.  Not great but it was above the 70 required.

I will soon post my study materials and other related information on my website 
www.thetestpage.net

This is diffinetly possible for anyone.  1 year ago I'd never touched a router.  So 
don't give up.

Remember that a great deal of the questions are trick questions.

Have fun

Rich Russell 
www.thetestpage.net


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2505/2507 Uses

[Rossetti, Stan]

Could somebody give me description of the 2505 and 2507 routers(?) and their
uses.  They seem like overpriced bridges to me.  Am I missing something
here?!?

Thanks,



Stan Rossetti


Russia Services Group
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Phone:  (256) 544-5031
Beeper:  544-1183 pin # 0112

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RE: Strange one (for me at least)

[Atif Awan]

Each interface on a  router has to be on a separate network ( be it a major
network or a subnet )

Regards
Atif

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Nabil Fares
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 8:54 PM
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Subject: Strange one (for me at least)


Greetings,

I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came back
with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
happens and can I force the router to accept it.

Thank you,

Nabil

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RE: 2505/2507 Uses

[Daniel Cotts]

Think of them as a 2501 with a built in hub. The 2505 has 8 ethernet RJ-45
ports. The 2507 has 16.

> -Original Message-
> From: Rossetti, Stan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:34 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: 2505/2507 Uses
> 
> 
> Could somebody give me description of the 2505 and 2507 
> routers(?) and their
> uses.  They seem like overpriced bridges to me.  Am I missing 
> something
> here?!?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Stan Rossetti
> 
> 
> Russia Services Group
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
> Phone:  (256) 544-5031
> 
> Beeper:  544-1183 pin # 0112
> 
>  <<...>> 
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May I use your on-line routers...?

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I need to practice urgently BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, etc. using Hutnik's... until I
have enough money to buy my own gear.

Please let me know who are the nice people who I was told that allow folks
in this list to telnet and play with their routers.

Thanks a lot

Billy
CCNA, MCP, Compaq ASE


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"NEW "CCIE certification requirement

[kien theng lee]

Hi, guys
i have found this from the web (posted by someone named hsb)


The new qualifications for CCIE have been announced. I have a copy of some 
practice questions. They are as follows:

1. Describe the history of the papacy from its origin to the present day, 
concentrating especially, but not exclusively, on its social, political, 
economic, religious, and philosophical impact on Europe, Asia, America, and 
Africa. Be brief, concise, and specific.

2. You have been provided with a razor blade, a piece of gauze, and a bottle 
of Jack Daniels. Remove your appendix. Do not suture until your work has 
been inspected. You have 10 minutes.

3. 2500 riot-crazed aborigines are storming the room. Calm them. You may use 
any ancient language except Latin or Greek.

4. Create life. Estimate the differences in subsequent human culture if this 
form of life had developed 500 million years earlier, with special attention 
to its probable effect on the English Parliamentary System. Prove your 
thesis.

5. Write a piano concerto. Orchestrate and perform it with flute and drum. 
You will find a piano under your chair.

6. Based on your knowledge of their works, evaluate the emotional stability, 
degree of adjustment, and repressed frustrations of each of the following:

a. Alexander of Aphrodisias
b. Ramses II
c. Gregory of Nicea
d. Iammurati

Support your evaluation with quotations from each man's work, making 
appropriate references. It is not necessary to translate.

7. Estimate the sociological problems which might accompany the end of the 
world. Construct an experiment to test your theory.

8. Define management. Define Science. How do they relate? Why? Create a 
generalized algorithm to optimize all managerial decisions. Assuming an IBM 
3270 with 257 Radio Shack and Panasonic terminals and each terminal to 
activate your algorithm. Design the communications interface and all the 
necessary control programs.

9. The disassembled parts of a high-powered rifle have been placed in a box 
on your desk. You will also find an instruction manual printed in Swahili. 
In 5 minutes, a hungry Bengal tiger will be admitted to the room. Take 
whatever action you feel appropriate. Be prepared to justify your decision.

10. There is a red telephone on the desk beside you. Start WWIII. Report at 
length on its socio-political effects, if any.

11. Take a position for or against truth. Prove the validity of your 
position.

12. Explain the nature of matter. Include in your answer an evaluation of 
the impact of the development of mathematics on science.

13. Sketch the development of human thought. Estimate its significance. 
Compare this with the development of any other kind of thought.

Extra Credit:

Define the universe. Give three examples.





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RE: Strange one (for me at least)

[Chris Larson]

Because you have both interfaces in the same network. One of them has to be
in a different network to route between them.

-Original Message-
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Strange one (for me at least)


>Greetings,
>
>I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
>xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The router came
back
>with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any idea why this
>happens and can I force the router to accept it.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Nabil


What is your subnetting plan? The answer to the problem lies in subnetting.

Why do you want to force the router to accept it?

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RES: debug output always in observed order?

[Henrique Issamu Terada]

configure  service timestamps debug datetime msec
from global config.

you'll see at whitch time time they occured
 
even without it, debugs willl appear in order.

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicacoes Ltda. 
Technical Support - CCNA Certified



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Enviada em: sabado, 5 de agosto de 2000 11:00
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Assunto:debug output always in observed order?


General question about using the debug command.  If I've turned
up debug for a number of different types of events, am I guaranteed
to see these events logged in the order in which they occurr?  Is it
possible that the different events don't actually get logged in
the precise order they're observed (assume all events are related to
inbound packets, on one interface, and thus are serialized)

Thanks
Brian

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Voice over ATM??

[Niraj Palikhey]

Hi,
Could somebody advise me the value of working in a voice over atm 
environment?

I am on my way to achive the CCIE certification(well, that's my ultimate 
certification goal). Presently, I am working towards my CCNP and have learnt 
a lot about Cisco routers and routing in general.

I have an opportunity to work in a voice over atm environment. This is 
dealing with Nortel GSP switches connected to Passport switches which is 
connected to Lucent CBX 500 ATM switches. Will be part of the team that will 
build this ATM core backbone. They also have plans to route data(ip) over 
this ATM backbone possibly in the future.

Since I will not really be dealing with Cisco routers but more so with those 
ATM switches and voice switches etc. is it worth it to work in this kind of 
environment, keeping in mind the CCIE certification?

The pay is ok and I do understand any kind of ATM knowledge is good, but I 
have yet to pass my CCNP and work with routers in a larger scale and 
understand them better??

Would someone give me an honest advise?

Thank you.

Kind regards,

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RE: Need recomendation

[David Jones]

I did this same thing but much cheaper.  I had a Xyplex terminal server.
Configured each port as needed and cabled to the various console ports.
Built a menu so I could telnet or dial into the terminal server and choose
which device I wanted to connect to.  Worked great.  You can do the same
thing with an Equinox terminal server, just another brand name.

Dave

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From: Patrick Stiever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:31 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Need recomendation


Ladies and Gentleman,

I need another recommendation, I have about a dozen or so routers,
LocalDirectors, and Switches here at our HQ, I would like to buy something
like a 2509 router so I can hook them up from their console port to the
2509's async port.  That way I don't have to run back to the NOC with
laptop, cable, and  try to console in.  Basically, I need a info on what
piece of equipment would be best suited for this application.  Thanks again.

Patrick Stiever 
Communications Engineer 
24 Hour Fitness 
(760) 918 4459 
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Network Drawing Program

[Evan You]

Hi all,

I am in the process of looking for a program that will draw a network based
on a database information.  Basically, I have thousands of circuits mostly
leased lines and FR that I need to draw to do analysis work. I am looking to
diversify as much of the network as possible so there is not a single point
of failure in the network. Currently, we are using a database system that
has all the circuit information but it's very cumbersome to analyze.

If I am able to see the circuits drawn automatically on demand it would be a
lot easier.  For example, if I wanted to see all circuits that went into a
specific sets of common equipment (router, ATM switch, FRADS, MUXES, DXCs)
then I could easily see the single points of failure in a network.

I've looked into Granite Systems but they are too expensive and there is a
limitation on the total numbers of circuits can be drawn at once.

If anyone knows of any other application, I would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Evan You - CCNA

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RE: Strange one (for me at least)

[Daniel Cotts]

Is this a lab or production scenario?
I'll answer as if it's a lab.
I assume that your "xxx" means that the digits are the same for both
interfaces. For example Ethernet is 10.10.10.1 and Serial is 10.10.10.2.
Assume subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 . In that case the router thinks that
they are on the same subnet and thus cannot route between them. Try
10.10.11.2 for the serial. It should work.

No, you can't force it. You can use different subnet masks to create subnets
that are close numerically. Watch ip subnet zero.
Maybe for Ethernet 10.10.10.17 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240.
Connected PCs would have a default gateway of 10.10.10.16. Serial line could
be 10.10.10.33 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240 .
> -Original Message-
> From: Nabil Fares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Strange one (for me at least)
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I've have a 2500 router, I was giving the Ethernet interface ip
> xxx.xxx.xxx.1, and the serial interface xxx.xxx.xxx.2.  The 
> router came back
> with an error message the ip addresses are overlapping.  Any 
> idea why this
> happens and can I force the router to accept it.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Nabil
> 
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Re: CCIE Written Passed

[Luan Kim]

Hi Rich,
I'm taking my ccie-written next week.  Would you share some notes with me
please?  Thanks in advance.



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On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well, I finally passed with a 72%.  Not great but it was above the 70 required.
> 
> I will soon post my study materials and other related information on my website 
>www.thetestpage.net
> 
> This is diffinetly possible for anyone.  1 year ago I'd never touched a router.  So 
>don't give up.
> 
> Remember that a great deal of the questions are trick questions.
> 
> Have fun
> 
> Rich Russell 
> www.thetestpage.net
> 
> 
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RE: Voice over ATM??

[Daniel Cotts]

Which is more important Certification or Career? Nortel and Lucent make good
boxes - especially the Ascend ATM switches that Lucent bought. You have an
opportunity to work on a great network buildout. Do it. Your primary skills
may be with those vendor's equipment.
Now with that skill set learn Cisco and make them interoperate. That would
be an enviable position!! Good luck.

> -Original Message-
> From: Niraj Palikhey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Voice over ATM??
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could somebody advise me the value of working in a voice over atm 
> environment?
> 
> I am on my way to achive the CCIE certification(well, that's 
> my ultimate 
> certification goal). Presently, I am working towards my CCNP 
> and have learnt 
> a lot about Cisco routers and routing in general.
> 
> I have an opportunity to work in a voice over atm 
> environment. This is 
> dealing with Nortel GSP switches connected to Passport 
> switches which is 
> connected to Lucent CBX 500 ATM switches. Will be part of the 
> team that will 
> build this ATM core backbone. They also have plans to route 
> data(ip) over 
> this ATM backbone possibly in the future.
> 
> Since I will not really be dealing with Cisco routers but 
> more so with those 
> ATM switches and voice switches etc. is it worth it to work 
> in this kind of 
> environment, keeping in mind the CCIE certification?
> 
> The pay is ok and I do understand any kind of ATM knowledge 
> is good, but I 
> have yet to pass my CCNP and work with routers in a larger scale and 
> understand them better??
> 
> Would someone give me an honest advise?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: CBT Training Options

[Adedapo Ola]

Hmm, I like this one, may be able to get a couple of routers sooner
afterall...
-
A quick question: I already had purchased sybex CCNA 1.0, so I opted not to
buy the 2.0 version. In addition to that, I ordered the ICND cisco press
book.
Do you think the ICND would makeup for what's lacking in the sybex 1.0 CCNA
edition?
Thanks   Adedapo...

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: CBT Training Options


> If you're in the states there is a law that stops or reduces sales calls.
> Tell them to add you to their do not call list and get a name. Write down
> the time and date of the call and who you talked to. After that they pay
you
> $500 every time they call you.
> -Philip
>
> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:27:42 -0700
> >From: "Bharat Suneja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CBT Training Options (CCNP)
>
> >Besides, I think ForeFront (now SmartCertify) sales guys are TOO PUSHY
AND
> >PERSISTENT - they kept calling me repeatedly inspite of the fact that I
got
> >really annoyed with them and clearly asked
> >them never to call me again and that I'm NOT interested at all in their
> >product any more.
>
> >I write this to the group so that everyone thinks twice before leaving
> their
> >name/address/phone number/e-mail on their web site before downloading the
> >demos - earlier today I was woken up by the same over-zealous sales guy
> from
> >Forefront and it wasn't the first time grrr   ("Oh, I was
> >wondering if you're still interested in the CCNA CBT NO, I'M NOT -
> >REPEAT - NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN CCNA CBT FROM YOUR COMPANY.. NOW
>WHAT
> >PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ???")
>
> >The sales tactics used : The list price of the CCNA CBT is $1800, but
> >they'll give you all kinds of discounts (bring the price down to about
> $1200
> >or so), and if you express your inability to buy an expensive CBT product
> >(which isn't worth the money, imho, going by the demo I downloaded), they
> >will try to sell you all kinds of installment plans to sell you the CBT,
> >throw in freebies (buy CCNA 1.0 now and we'll throw in CCNA 2.0/ICND for
> >free)... anything to make you buy!
>
> >CAVEAT EMPTOR
>
> >My $0.02 worth... :-)
>
> >Bharat Suneja
>
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Re: Great CCDA Study Site

[Adedapo Ola]

Congrats Paul.!!

How long did it take for you to feel ready for the test on the basis of
everyday preparation?

 Once again Congrats...  Adedapo...

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: Great CCDA Study Site


> I just passed my CCDA yesturday, I used mainly the
> material from this site!
>
> http://www.ccxxproductions.bigstep.com/
>
> Check them out
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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[Cohen, Michael]

Actually, I believe this is incorrect.  If you enter two static default
routes with the same administrative distance (in this case 1) then
(depending on any configured maximum paths statement, I believe the default
is 4) the router will load balance using both addresses.  If the router will
load balance on per-packet or per-destination basis will depend on the
switching method used.  The reason one of your default routes dissapear when
you disconnect one of your ethernet segments is that the route to your next
hop address for that default route dissapears.  If a router does not have a
route to the next hop address then it will not install that route into the
route table even though it is statically configured.  To test this scenario
using your previous example try adding a static route to 10.1.1.0
255.255.255.0 with a next hop address of 10.1.2.3.  When both ethernet
interfaces are up you won't see that new static route for 10.1.1.3 in the
table because the administrative distance for that route is 1.  The router
as a connected route with an administrative distance of 0 out it's ethernet
interface for that network.  As soon as you remove the cable from the
ethernet interface with 10.1.1.1 connected to it (e0/0) the static route for
10.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 with next hop 10.1.2.3 will show up.  At the same
time both default statics will remain in the routing table and be used in a
load sharing state.

Michael Cohen
CCDP, CCNP
CCIE #6080

-Original Message-
From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dave Page
Subject: IP classless/Default routes


Dave
Let me clear this up a little, you can place more than one default route in
the routing table but the router will only use the first entry.
If that link goes down the next default route will be used.
Here is the config,
interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast

interface Ethernet0/1
 ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast

Router#conf
Configuring from terminal, memory, or network [terminal]?
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Router(config)#ip routing
Router(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.3
Router(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.2.3
Router(config)#^Z
Router#
00:08:49: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console

Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.1.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.1.3
[1/0] via 10.1.2.3
Router#
Notice that the first ip route entry is the Gateway of last resort. Now
watch what happens when I disconnect the cable to E0/0

Router#
00:15:20: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/0,
changed s
tate to down
Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.2.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.3
Router#
Now notice that the second ip route entry is the Gateway of last resort. Now
watch what happens when I reconnect the E0/0 cable.

Router#
00:19:27: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0/0,
changed s
tate to up
Router#sh ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is 10.1.2.3 to network 0.0.0.0

 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C   10.1.2.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/1
C   10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.2.3
[1/0] via 10.1.1.3
Router#
The original default gateway is now the backup route. If you want to install
the first route as the one to use after the link 

RE: MCNS 2.0 (CCNP + Security)

[Chris Larson]

There is no Centri Firewall on the exam.

It is basically :
The PIX
TACACS+ and very little radius
Ports ISAKMP and IPSEC oprate on
IPSEC/IKE
NAT
Different types of threats (hijacking, routing update spoofs etc.)


And that is all I can remember from the test.

Chris Larson
CNE, MCP +I, CCNP +Security 


-Original Message-
From: Scott A. Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 2:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MCNS 2.0 (CCNP + Security)


All,

I'm in my final preparation for the MCNS 2.0 Exam this Sunday.

I'm curious if anyone could tell me if they know of MCNS 2.0 Exam
Objectives?

I know the Centri Firewall has hit End Of Life (EOL), and I was curious to
see if it was on the new Exam Objectives? (If such an animal exists?)


>From the MCNS 1.0 Exam Objectives,

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/mcns.pdf

I followed the Exam Objectives closely, and I've narrowed my studies to the
following key areas:


1.  ACL  (Access Lists)  ACRC book

2.  AAADesign
Network Security (DNS) Cisco Press, author Kaeo  (ISBN:  1578700434)

3.  PIX Config  PIX White Paper
from CCO(Link below)

4.  TACACS/RADIUSDNS

5.  CiscoSecure ACS (UNIX/NT)/NAS   "UNIX/NT Guides" from CCO(Link
below)

6.  IP Sec"IP Sec
Network Security" from CCO(Link below)

7.  VPNDNS

8.  NATDNS

9.  Router Encryption Config DNS


Misc:

Corporate Security Policy  DNS
Securing Internet & Dial-In Access   DNS
Security TechnologiesDNS
IOS Firewall FeaturesCisco IOS 12.0 Network
Security by Cisco Press
Encrypted GRE Tunnel Config
CBAC (Context-Based Access Control)
IOS Perimeter Security FeaturesWhite Paper on CCO(Link
below)
Private Line II VPN Card



Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!


Scott Jensen
Callisma
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Useful links:

PIX

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/fw.htm
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/fw/sqfw500/tech/nat_wp.htm


Centri Firewall

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/centri4/
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/centri4/user/
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/centri4/user/scf4ch1.h
tm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/centri4/user/scf4ch5.h
tm


CiscoSecure ACS (NT/UNIX) / NAS

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_soft/cs_unx/
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_soft/csacs4nt/



Dual Cisco Security Servers (RADIUS & TACACS+)

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios112/dbl_auth.htm


IOS Perimeter Security Features

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/iofwft/tech/firew_wp.htm


IP Sec

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113t/113t_
3/ipsec.htm






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RE: IP classless/Default routes

[Timmons, Robert]

Usually, you can substitute 'public' for 'customer' if the document is
publicly available (which this one is)

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/default.html

Bob

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IP classless/Default routes


Dave, 

If you have a CCO login check this page out.  It explains the differences
between Default Gateway, Gateway of last resort, and default network.  If
you don't have a CCO login, let me know and I will paraphrase the article.  

Hope this helps.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/105/default.html




 -Original Message-
From:   Dave Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, August 07, 2000 7:05 PM
To: 'Cisco List'
Subject:IP classless/Default routes


In Todd Lammle's book for CCNA 640-407, on p. 202 he has set a default route
of BOTH 172.16.40.2 and 172.16.20.1.  How does one do this, just enter the
IP route command as such, one right after the other (??):

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.40.2
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 162.16.20.1

???


The reason I ask is that in his book for CCNA 640-507, he states on page
253, "Default routing is used to send packets with a remote destination
network not in the routing table to the next hop router.  You can only use
default routing on stub networks, which means that they have only one exit
port out of the network."

The two books seem to say contradictory things.  Is it because the 507 exam
is based on a different IOS?  What gives?


Dave Page

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Re: CCIE-Qual...

[Ed Moss]

In a word  Yes
Look at the CCIE roadmap on CCO.

Passing is 70% for Cisco Employees and 65% for everyone else.

Ed


1. Do we need to study VoIP & VoFr ?
2. Do we need to study VPN & IPSec ?
3. What is the passing score for the exam ?.
4. What are all the important areas to concentrate on for the exam ?



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Re: CCIE Written Passed

[Kenneth]

Congratulations!

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Well, I finally passed with a 72%.  Not great but it was above the 70
required.
>
> I will soon post my study materials and other related information on my
website www.thetestpage.net
>
> This is diffinetly possible for anyone.  1 year ago I'd never touched a
router.  So don't give up.
>
> Remember that a great deal of the questions are trick questions.
>
> Have fun
>
> Rich Russell
> www.thetestpage.net
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Re: passed CCIE R&S written

[Ed Moss]

Congrats on passing the CCIE Written.Hopefully I will follow soon.

In regard to CCIE written... how much of a chance you belive someone has to
pass the written exam with only study for CCNP and CCDP?

What areas do you feel  someone with CCNP and CCDP needs to focus on for the
written exam?

Ed



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RE: VPN 3DES ON 2MB Link with 25XX

[Chris Larson]

I would look and see if the Crypto card is available for the router yet.
Cisco had a PL2 card for the CET and Private Link technology and they were
working on (last time I checked) a card that would take the encryption and
decryption off the router processor and onto the Card. Again, I am not sure
if it is availbale. I though they were going to call it the PL3 which makes
it sound like it is for the Private Link CET technology, but the person I
spoke with said it was going to work for DES/3DES etc.

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 7:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VPN 3DES ON 2MB Link with 25XX


Have fiannly gotten around to printing out the IPSec Design Guide published
on the Cisco site.

http://www.cisco.com/cpropart/sync-src/ccstcp/cc/techno/protocol/ipsecur/ips
ec/tech/
watch the word wrap
need a CCO login to get there

rather interesting publication, with 15 pages on IPSec, 27 pages on design
considertions, and over 370 pages of case studies/configurations!

the relevant protion to this conversation is the design guide, which does
talk about performance, memory usage, and processor impact. The information
presented is not a complete as I would hope, but it is indicative.

for example, using a 16xx router, and a 125K clockrate on a back to back
serial link, a file transfer that took 10 minutes with no encryption took
only 18 seconds longer using IPSec. CPU usage was at 29% on average during
the tests. ( The publication states that "the same test was run several
times and the times were averaged together")

Although there are several charts measuring bandwidth % used with different
size packets on several router platforms, I am disappointed to find that
this presentation is not particularly detailed, nor particularly rigorous.

One chart compares performnce in megabits per second of several routers, one
of which is a 2514 ( no 2501's ). Said router without encryption perfermed
in the range of 2.4-9.9 mbs, and with AH and ESP enabled dropped to 01.-0.2
mbs. there is a column labeled "suggested bandwidth" but no explaination in
the text. There is a rather interesting line stating that "the suggested
bandwidth is reduced from the maximum possible to bring the CPU utilization
more within accepted limits"

the same table states that a 7505 popping AH and ESP was filling a 6 mbs
serial link with a 70-75% CPU usage rate.

All this leads me to infer that the chances are very good that doing what
you are planning to do will be bad for the router. IPSec checws up processor
cycles. With a T-1 to fill, your poor CPU's are going to burn along at 100%
utilization to fiull that bandwidth. Not good for router!

Given these kinds of numbers, you may find your remote users complaining a
lot about "slow performance" and with good reason. your 2 meg pipe becomes a
100K pipe, assuming the router doesn't shut down a lot due to overload.

Anyone got some other good reads on IPSec and router resource utilization?

Chuck

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> Hello,
>
> I wish to setup a 3DES VPN between two sites (a local and a remote site)
on
> a 2MB serial link using 2 2502 cisco routeurs. I will have 30 people
> working on the remote site using telnet session, NT file and print with
> servers in the local site.
>
> Do you think the 25XX could handle such calculation (3DES processing) for
> such amount of user. If yes is someone already setup such thing ?
>
> regards,
> Christophe.
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cheapest layer 3 switch

[Kenneth]

Hey ,everyone, I have a product question:

Is the Cisco 2948G-L3 the cheapest layer 3 switch in their line of switches?

I was hoping that a 2900XL enterprise edition is capable of providing Layer3
switching...

Kenneth




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