RE: Message from administrator - your document has been released from quarantine.

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What is this? A wirus? I got this from this list. Has anybody else got this?
Regards
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re:MLS hardware or software

[Faxon, James]

Can someone pls explain to me why they say that switches running MLS can
route packets and rewrite packet headers in hardware? I know that mutilayer
switches use ASIC but is this still not software based? Even with a
integrated circuit I thought there would still be 'management' software
running just so that the IC knows what to do, and if not can someone pls
tell me how this is so or am I looking to deep into this and they say
"hardware based" because its a piece of silicon
soldered on a board.?

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Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?

[derek lewinson]

I understand that these switches have the same command set as a CAT 5xxx
Is this true?
Also, can these things take an RSM/SP?

If so, I'd like one 'cos I gather they are a heck of a lot cheaper than a
CAT5xxx!

If you can supply me with one @ a good price, mail me!

regards,


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Re: OSPF and static routes

[Frank B.]

 Jenny & "da group",
 
 Like many of you I'm studying for the lab--big date(s) are
21/22 June.  This one caught my eye so I attempted to duplicate it as
best I could...I set up the following lab:
 
 RTR~D<--serial-->RTR~A<--Eth-->RTR~B<--Eth-->RTR~C
 2500 2500  7507   2500
 Aera 1 Area 1/0Area0 Area 0/2
 
 RTR~D
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 50.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
 !
 interface Serial1
  ip address 10.3.3.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 router ospf 4
 network 10.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
 network 50.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 1
 
 RTR~A
 !
 interface Ethernet0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Serial1
 ip address 10.3.3.2 255.255.255.0
 !
 router ospf 1
 network 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 10.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
 
 RTR~B
 interface Ethernet0/0
  ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet0/2
  ip address 10.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
 !
 router ospf 1
  network 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  network 10.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 
 RTR~C
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 10.2.2.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 router ospf 69
  network 10.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 
 
 
 I was unable to duplicate the problem...I did verify that the 7507
(RTR~B) removed the inter-area for 50.0.0.0 from it's routing table
route learned via RTR~A when configured with the static route--as
expected.  However, the LSA was passed to RTR~C under both
configurations.

 While the static was configured I issued "sh ip route 50.0.0.0" on
RTR~B and it showed known via static and DID NOT indicate
"redistributing via ospf X."   When I issued the same command while the
router was configured without the static it indicated it was being
learned via 10.1.1.1 and being redistributed into ospf.  

I expected those results but I was curious just the same.  The bottom
line in our lab scenario above, existance of the static route only
affected the routing table of the router on which the static was
entered. Further, the link state database on RTR~C also appeared to have
the same contents with both configs on RTR~B.
 
 I'm convinced this is proper behavior for ospf.  If you're seeing
something else you may very well have stumbled upon a not-so-uncommon
IOS bug.  I may have overlooked something though...it's been known to
happen ;-)   Comments are welcome.   Aloha, Frank
 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Had a problem today that doesn't make much sense to me.
> >
> > Very simplified layout (hopefully not oversimplified...)
> >
> > RTA -- RTB -- RTC
> >
> > RTB gets a summary LSA for a network, call it 50.0.0.0, from RTA.  This
> summary
> > LSA is visible with the command 'show ip ospf da su'.
> > There is also a static route for 50.0.0.0 on RTB, with admin distance 1.
> Not
> > surprisingly, this overrides the OSPF route in RTB's routing table.  The
> static
> > route is NOT redistributed into OSPF.
> >
> > RTB is adjacent with RTC.  However the summary LSA for 50.0.0.0 does not
> get to
> > RTC (as shown by 'show ip ospf da su'), and RTC has no route to 50.0.0.0
> (as
> > shown by 'show ip ro').
> > If the static route is taken off RTB, OSPF sends the summary LSA to RTC
> again,
> > and an OSPF route to 50.0.0.0 shows up in RTC's routing table.
> >
> > I was under the impression that routing protocols are generally 'ships in
> the
> > night' in their operation (in that they each work out what they consider
> to be
> > the best route, and then the routing process chooses between routing
> protocols).
> > Why does adding a static route (not redistributed) affect what LSAs OSPF
> sends?
> > Shouldn't RTC get sent the summary LSA even though RTB has a better static
> route
> > - how does the OSPF process on RTB even know about the existence of the
> static
> > route??
> >
> > Am I missing something really basic here?
> > The layout is in reality rather more complex - the RTA-RTB link is in the
> > backbone area, the RTB-RTC link is in a different area, and the summary
> route
> > originates from a third area.  There are also redundant routers involved.
> If
> > you have any theories that involve complexities like this, I can give more
> > detail.
> >
> > Ta,
> > JMcL
> >
> > p.s. over in this part of the world, we have a far more popular race on
> the
> > first Tuesday in November, and it's got nothing to do with politics
> (probably
> > why it's more popular :-)
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PIX and IP assignment

[roberto lorente]

Can I use Radius or TACAS for assigning IP addresses to my remote users
(they use VPN cliente 1.1)?. If so how can I configure the PIX ?

Thanks
Roberto

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Switching question's

[Crash]

Need a suggestion.

1. Can this be done.. logically segment the network by assigning VLANs to
the switch ports that the 5 hubs (existing hardware) are connected to a
switch. Cost is also an issue here.
2. Switch A, port speed can only be set to half duplex for either 10 or 100
Mbps, a known issue with this particular hardware and the client is not able
to change it even with the manufacturers recommendation.  Switch B, is a new
switch that is configurable to go half or full duplex on the port speed.
Switch B is uplinked to switch A. Switch B's port speed is set at 100 Full
duplex with autonegotiation turned off.  The connectivity is slow, should
the port speed on switch B change to half duplex as it is on switch A until
the problem with the port speed on switch A is fixed.


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For sale - 2501/2503

[Roman McDonald]

I don't normally post this type of stuff but here it is anyway for those 
that are interested in a
home lab.  I think a few months back we deemed this acceptable.  These two 
routers
helped me get my CCNA, CCDA, and CCNP.  If interested, check out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=489330336


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Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?

[derek lewinson]

I understand that these switches have the same command set as a CAT 5xxx
Is this true?
Also, can these things take an RSM/SP?

If so, I'd like one 'cos I gather they are a heck of a lot cheaper than a
CAT5xxx!

If you can supply me with one @ a good price, mail me!

regards,


Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
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RE: Switching question's

[Taco Hettema]

1:Yes, this can be done, but you need a router to route between the 5 vlans

2: Yes, you should set the speed on switch B to the same speed as switch a
(100Mbps Half duplex)

Taco Hettema
CCDP CCNP

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Switching question's


Need a suggestion.

1. Can this be done.. logically segment the network by assigning VLANs to
the switch ports that the 5 hubs (existing hardware) are connected to a
switch. Cost is also an issue here.
2. Switch A, port speed can only be set to half duplex for either 10 or 100
Mbps, a known issue with this particular hardware and the client is not able
to change it even with the manufacturers recommendation.  Switch B, is a new
switch that is configurable to go half or full duplex on the port speed.
Switch B is uplinked to switch A. Switch B's port speed is set at 100 Full
duplex with autonegotiation turned off.  The connectivity is slow, should
the port speed on switch B change to half duplex as it is on switch A until
the problem with the port speed on switch A is fixed.


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Re: stuck up

[Peter_McCracken]

One day left ??

Try www.cramsession.com and get the cram for the exam... and then
keep going over the boson tests its about the best you can do with one
day left

rgs peter.



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IGMPv1 question

[jack]

Hi all,
I don't know if someone has passed the BCMSN test 
but there is
something strange in the book about 
IGMP:
It says that the host sends a Host Membership 
Report to the all-router group address 224.0.0.2
which I believe is wrong. The host sends a 
report to its Group address, not to 224.0.0.2
Can any one verify this?
And does the same thing happen with IGMPv2 
?
 
 
Thanks!
Jack Svolakis
 

Re: Message from administrator - your document has been released from quaran...

[AWTroxell]

Not necessarily a virus.  Someone has a "Mail Sweeper" program that may delay or quarantine emails that have "any" attachments or attachments larger than a certain size.

They may also be set to delay email transmission if LAN/WAN traffic is high or -and you privacy advocates are gonna love this one- quarantine the message if it is encrypted!

-Austin W. Troxell
CCNP MCNE MCSE and still lookin' for a Cisco job

Re: stuck up

[Joe]

If I remember right, you can reschedule your test. You have a year from the
time you register to take it.

To be honest, I have not done the bcmsn material but I would say that if you
feel you don't know the material now then one day won't make much of a
difference, you probably should reschedule the exam for another week or 2
out and review, review, review.

Good luck

-Joe-



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> day left
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Passed CCNA

[Peter_McCracken]

Hi All,

Passed the CCNA 2.0 with 903. They dont half ask the questions in an
awkward way do they ??

I thought I had failed !!

Anyway, do ye have any advice for studying for the BCSN exam ?? Books,
Tests, Crams ??

I have access to a lab with 3 x 2500's , 2 x 1900 , 1 x 2900 and 2 ISDN
routers  is there any particular
setup / config I should have for studying CCNP stuff ??

Many Thanks Folks, Peter.

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Re: Passed BCRAN

[STRAND Scott]

Anton,
I had 1 (easy) question on the 700 series.

Good luck,
Scott

Anton Khan wrote:

> Scott,
>
> I am studying for the BCRAN right now and there is one issue that
> contiues to puzzle me.  Do we have to be familiar with the 700 series
> routers or not.  I figure anyone who has done the BCRAN recently would be in
> the best position to answer this question so hopefully you or someone from
> the study group will add their two cents.
>
> For what it's worth there are a lot of really bright and talented people on
> this study group.  It is a great resource for any up and coming CCNP or
> CCIE.
>
> Anton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rah Sta
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 11/7/00 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN
>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks for the info. Were and how much is the one week Mentortech class
> is.
> What do you mean by archives? PEACE
>
>  Raheem
>
> >From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Passed BCRAN
> >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:48 -0500
> >
> >Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I
>
> >passed:
> >
> >Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of
> information)
> >Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
> >Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
> >Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a
> great
> >job and the instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.
> >
> >The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async
> dialup,
> >PPP, TACACS+, NAT, etc.
> >
> >This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC,
> BCMSN,
> >BCRAN). They give you a list of commands (About 40) that
> >you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.
> >
> >Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and
> if
> >the BOSON tests were good for CIT.
> >
> >--Scott
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Re: BGP attribute catalog

[Peter Sprygada]

The difference is actually very simple.  A transitive attribute gets passed
along to every router within and between AS however a non-transitive
attribute doesn't.  This applies to both optional and mandatory attributes.
Esstentially, if the attribute is optional non-transitive and the router
does or doesn't support it, it just drops it, whereas, if it is optional
transitive and does or doesn't support it, the router must  still pass along
the attribute.

Hope that helps

Peter
CCNP, CCDA

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> dear group,
>
> Who can tell me the difference between transitive and non-transitive.I can
> not grasp the idea.For example,Med is an optional non-transitive
> attribute,and aggregrator is an optional transitive attribute.
> Another question is community is in whic catalog?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dean
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console or AUX port

[Neil Desai]

I am currently making a lab with a 2511 as my terminal server. I am plugging
the octal cables into the AUX ports of the routers and everything works
fine. Unfortueately the 1600's don't have an  AUX port so I tried the
console port but I am unable to get it to work on the console port. From
what others have told me this can be done. When I went to fatkid.com and
looked at their reverse telnet lab they are connecting to the AUX port, in
Calsow's book it says to connect to the console port. If anyone can help me
on this I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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Re: CCIE Design Written......

[Bruce Williams]

CCIE Design Written..
I have been so curious about this Design Certification that I invested $200
and sat the exam last week. I guess having the CCDP is good for 50% because
that is about what I scored. I got a 46 and a 60 is passing. I am not
disappointed because I have not really begun to study yet. I did very well
on the CCDP and CCDA exams so I wanted to see how much of a gap there was
between my current knowledge and what I need to acquire. It is the first
exam that I ever failed but it was worth it because now I know that I can do
it. It is difficult but I do not believe that it would have seemed much
harder then some of the CCNP exams if I studied properly. The case studies
are just a bulleted list of requirements and you pick a multiple-choice
answer that satisfies those requirements. I had nightmares about very long
case studies. There was a lot of SNA, DLSW, Voice, SNMP, RMON and ATM and
those are the things I am not well versed in so that was my downfall. There
are also many questions about routing protocol behavior especially over dial
up lines. I know that in a couple of months and adequate studying I can pass
the written exam, the Design Lab I am not sure of.

Bruce
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Has anybody taken this or heard about it?
Has anybody taken or heard about the lab?


Thank You,
Patrick Greene
CCDP,MCSE,MCNE


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RE: Switching question's

[Hennen, David]

for #1 you need to determine if your head switch supports vlans.  Then if
you create a vlan for each port that a hub is plugged into then each hub
would be its own network.  But in the absence of routing of some kind, I
don't see the benefit.  I guess you could use any remaining ports on the
head switch for host systems and you could move them into different vlans as
needed

for #2 the duplex setting on both switches should match, so if switch A only
supports half duplex then switch B should be set for half also.

daveh

-Original Message-
From: Crash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Switching question's


Need a suggestion.

1. Can this be done.. logically segment the network by assigning VLANs to
the switch ports that the 5 hubs (existing hardware) are connected to a
switch. Cost is also an issue here.
2. Switch A, port speed can only be set to half duplex for either 10 or 100
Mbps, a known issue with this particular hardware and the client is not able
to change it even with the manufacturers recommendation.  Switch B, is a new
switch that is configurable to go half or full duplex on the port speed.
Switch B is uplinked to switch A. Switch B's port speed is set at 100 Full
duplex with autonegotiation turned off.  The connectivity is slow, should
the port speed on switch B change to half duplex as it is on switch A until
the problem with the port speed on switch A is fixed.


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Re: Frame-Relay Question...

[Brian]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Robert Borejszo wrote:

> Hello:
> Excuse me if this kind of question doesn't belong here. I am in the process
> of preparing for CCNA and reading Wendell Odom book (BTW, any wanna be CCNA
> read this one regardless what others have to say). I am in WAN section right
> now. In his example of partially meshed network  ( routers A B C D, A
> connects to B C D and A is only the router connected by B C D). I understand
> why we need subinterfaces on router A. But why we he has subinterface set on
> routers B C D? Is it because of setup consistency or what is the catch?

he could use physical interface, but just chose sub-interface.  IMHO,
sub-interface (point to point) is the way to go, since then you don't have
problems with split-horizon, ospf, etc.

Brian


> 
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Re: BGP attribute catalog

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Zhang Jin wrote:

> dear group,
> 
> Who can tell me the difference between transitive and non-transitive.I can
> not grasp the idea.For example,Med is an optional non-transitive
> attribute,and aggregrator is an optional transitive attribute.
> Another question is community is in whic catalog?

transitive attributes are passed on to other peers, non-transitive are not
passed on.  The MED is not passed on.  when you receive a MED on a route,
if you decide to announce that route back out to other peers, the MED is
not present (unless you set it again).

Brian


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> Dean
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> 
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Re: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?

[Kevin Wigle]

from CCO:

Product Overview
The Catalyst 2926 Series delivers award-winning Catalyst 5000 family
performance in a compact chassis. The Catalyst 2926 is a
fixed-configuration, high-density, 10/100 autosensing Catalyst family member
that uses the same architecture and software as the Catalyst 5000. The
switch can deliver more than one million packets-per-second (pps) throughput
across a 1.2-Gbps media-independent backplane that supports Ethernet and
Fast Ethernet.

**

This switch is a fixed configuration so you won't be putting a RSM in.

I appreciate your issue on price but if you're thinking about a RSM then
price is probably no object!
(I would love a RSM for my Cat 5000.)

The few RSMs I've seen on eBay have easily gone for twice the used cost of a
Cat 5000!

The 2926 is also marked as EOL (End of Life) is that concerns you at all.

Kevin Wigle


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To: "cisco@groupstudy. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:44 AM
Subject: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?


> I understand that these switches have the same command set as a CAT 5xxx
> Is this true?
> Also, can these things take an RSM/SP?
>
> If so, I'd like one 'cos I gather they are a heck of a lot cheaper than a
> CAT5xxx!
>
> If you can supply me with one @ a good price, mail me!
>
> regards,
>
>
> Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel/Fax/Mobile (UK): 0044 7979 705446
>
>
>
>

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Re: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, derek lewinson wrote:

> I understand that these switches have the same command set as a CAT 5xxx
> Is this true?
> Also, can these things take an RSM/SP?

2926T is a nice switch.  Its basically a SupII I believe with a 5224 blade
(24 port 10/100), it can do FEC and ISL as well.  It has only two slots,
so no, you can't add any additional cards to it.

> 
> If so, I'd like one 'cos I gather they are a heck of a lot cheaper than a
> CAT5xxx!

You should look at the 2901 then, its a Sup1 and 5213A (12 port
10/100).  It can do ISL and everything else a sup1 can (no FEC...but
FEC is pretty simple)


 > 
> If you can supply me with one @ a good price, mail me!

I paid $1200 for my 2901.  Usually they go for
$1800-$2700shop for a steal.

Brian


> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
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> 
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> 

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IP route cache

[Tony Russell]

Can someone describe why I would want to use the ip route-cache (or no ip
route-cache) command.  I've found references on the Cisco site about how to
use it, but not why.

Tony Russell
Network Engineer
IBEAM Broadcasting


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Re: IP RIP V.1 in the LAB ?

[Kevin Wigle]

Phil,

you wrote:

e.g before this LAB the Ethernet Seg was split, so
that I just had a linear network and this worked
perfectly. Obviously when I triangulated it, I put
both Ethernet interfaces on the same network. But that
was about it really.

Although this config "should" be simple, it's the simple things that often
get overlooked.  If the ethernet networks weren't connected before and
everything worked as expected - and then things don't work as expected once
you connect them.. one might assume...

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: Re: IP RIP V.1 in the LAB ?


> Thanx for the input,
>
> Unfortunately the configs are 120 miles away. I only
> really get a chance to play at the weekends when I'm
> back home.
>
> But there is really nothing fancy in the configs.
> When I cut the link TOP->RIGHT I waited for the route
> to get flushed out the table i.e 280 secs (I think)
>
> But the route from LEFT is definitely being advertised
> to RIGHT according to the Sniffer and being rejected
> by RIGHT. (Split Horizon Possibly)
>
> TOP Learned two routes to Network LEFT->RIGHT via LEFT
> and RIGHT Respectively and load balanced them.
>
> I would have thought this to be the case with LEFT and
> RIGHT also since RIP only has hop count to work with.
>
> Split Horizon thoughts 
>
> RIGHT learned the TOP->LEFT network via TOP.
> RIGHT didn't learn the TOP->LEFT Network via LEFT ?
> and didn't load balance.
>
> When I broke the link I used shutdown.
> Maybe I should have physically uncoupled the link ?
>
> Although the route did get flushed. So RIGHT should
> have learned a new route to TOP->LEFT via LEFT.
>
> O, I'm confused.
>
> If there is no progress I'll try to post the configs.
> But they are so straight forward its untrue.
>
> e.g before this LAB the Ethernet Seg was split, so
> that I just had a linear network and this worked
> perfectly. Obviously when I triangulated it, I put
> both Ethernet interfaces on the same network. But that
> was about it really.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil.
>
>
> --- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 7 Nov
> 2000, Kevin Wigle wrote:
> >
> > > which is cool but
> > >
> > > > > When I cut the link Top-Right the Network
> > Top->Left is
> > > > > eventually flushed out ???
> > >
> > > why does the above route disappear?  The loop is
> > gone and the network should
> > > now be advertised as avail through router Left.
> >
> > Well no doubt if you cut the Top-Right link, and the
> > Left was learned
> > via Top-Right.that particular route should
> > disappear.  I would
> > think/hope that if he waited long enough, that
> > things would start to
> > converge and Left would be re-learned via Left-Right
> >
> > >
> > > According to Phil's post that's not happening.
> > (right?)
> > >
> > > It would still be great to see more info on
> > configs and routing tables.
> >
> > I agree
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Kevin Wigle
> > >
> >
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> > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)
> >
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switching telnet sessions

[Serhat Erkan]

How to ?
Thankz for your helpz.

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Cost vs Metric

[AABAN34]

Hello

   Can someone give me a brief descriptions between the both? the difference 
between Cost and Metric?

Thanks

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Re: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin Wigle wrote:

> from CCO:
> 
> Product Overview
> The Catalyst 2926 Series delivers award-winning Catalyst 5000 family
> performance in a compact chassis. The Catalyst 2926 is a
> fixed-configuration, high-density, 10/100 autosensing Catalyst family member
> that uses the same architecture and software as the Catalyst 5000. The
> switch can deliver more than one million packets-per-second (pps) throughput
> across a 1.2-Gbps media-independent backplane that supports Ethernet and
> Fast Ethernet.

Here is another good link on the 2900 series:

http://www.kmj.com/cisco/2900.html

Basically for CCIE lab, you have 3 ways to go to get some cheap switching
in your home lab: 2901, 2926T, 5002.  Pricing is usually along that order
too.

The main difference between a 2901 and 2926T is the supervisor.  2926T
supports FEC.  2926T has 24 ports vs. the 12 of the 2901, but for a home
lab, 12 is plenty.  5002 Allows you to put whatever supervisor you can
afford in it (I, II, III) and whatever blade.  Almost always people put
either the 5213A (12 port 10/100) or 5224 (24 port 10/100), so you can
really save some money by just getting a 2901 or 2926T.  They all run the
same code imagethe catalyst 5000 (crescendo) code.

Brian

 > 
> **
> 
> This switch is a fixed configuration so you won't be putting a RSM in.
> 
> I appreciate your issue on price but if you're thinking about a RSM then
> price is probably no object!
> (I would love a RSM for my Cat 5000.)
> 
> The few RSMs I've seen on eBay have easily gone for twice the used cost of a
> Cat 5000!
> 
> The 2926 is also marked as EOL (End of Life) is that concerns you at all.
> 
> Kevin Wigle
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "derek lewinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "cisco@groupstudy. com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:44 AM
> Subject: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?
> 
> 
> > I understand that these switches have the same command set as a CAT 5xxx
> > Is this true?
> > Also, can these things take an RSM/SP?
> >
> > If so, I'd like one 'cos I gather they are a heck of a lot cheaper than a
> > CAT5xxx!
> >
> > If you can supply me with one @ a good price, mail me!
> >
> > regards,
> >
> >
> > Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Tel/Fax/Mobile (UK): 0044 7979 705446
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: IP route cache

[Michael Fountain]

It determines how the router switches packets.

If you use 'ip route-cache' then the router will be fast-switching the 
packets.  The router keeps a cached memory full of recently used (which 
should often equal heavily used) routes & destinations.  When a packet comes 
in it can use that cache to determine where to send the packet without 
having to do routing lookups.

If you use 'no ip route-cache' then the router will be process-switching and 
will do route lookups for every packet.

I think Cisco recommends that if you are running a serial link that is 
slower then T1 speed to go ahead and do 'no ip route-cache' because the link 
is so slow (number of packets so low) that the time saved by the route-cache 
isn't worth the memory of keeping all of that information.

Also, if you have multiple paths to the same destination and are doing 
fast-switching, the router will load balance the traffic on a 
per-destination basis because once the destination output port is in the 
cache all traffic following it will go out the same port.  Process-switching 
will load balance on a per-packet basis since each packet is looked at 
individually.

hope that helps,
Mike

>
>Can someone describe why I would want to use the ip route-cache (or no ip
>route-cache) command.  I've found references on the Cisco site about how to
>use it, but not why.
>
>Tony Russell
>Network Engineer
>IBEAM Broadcasting

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After supernetting!!

[jeongwoo park]

Hi all
Let’s say there are 5 subnets (Class B/16 subnet mask)
consisting of approximately 500 DHCP clients and 20
servers.
Someone as a Network Expert suggested flattening the
network. As a Network newbie, I simply followed the
instruction from the book on how to supernet, and
finally summarized those 5 contiguous subnets into
following address: 123.80.0.0/14 (**this is a made-up
number) Now I am done with supernetting. What is the
next to be done?
What should I do with this ip address? 
Should I go to physically to these 520 stations one by
one for new tcp/ip setup? I think there should be
better way than this.

Looking for your help…

Thanks
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Re: where do we find basic IPSEC config samples ?

[phil . virnoche]

try this:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/471/top_issues/vpn/vpn_index.shtml


mindiani mindiani wrote:

> I would like to practice the configurations of the IOS IPSEC and firewall
> but I do not know where to start. Is there any book or any good links to
> kick me off from understanding the basics to advanced sample configurations
> ?.
>
> Thanks
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Redistribution od Static Routes

[Watson, Rick, , OUSDC]

Does the following lines extracted from a configuration redistribute all
static routes on the router? Or will I have to go through and add the
specific static routes and redistribute them? Trying to t-shoot an issue and
was wondering if redistribution of static routes (or lack thereof) was
causing problemsIf more info is necessary please contact me offline

- extracted lines begin 

router ospf 989
 redistribute static subnets
 network 192.68.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0.0.0.0
 maximum-paths 2

- extracted lines end -

Rick Watson
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RE: switching telnet sessions

[Serhat Erkan]

thankz...
i tried it but it didn't work. is there any term settings ?..

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:15 PM
To: Serhat Erkan
Subject: RE: switching telnet sessions


There are a couple of ways to do it:

Use the "show sessions" command then choose the number in front of the
session you want.
Or
use the "CTRL+Shift+6" then "x".

Dave

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> Subject: switching telnet sessions
>
>
> How to ?
> Thankz for your helpz.
>
> Serhat
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Re: IPX over VPN

[Keith Townsend]

The only way I know of is to use a 3rd party software to tunnel IPX>IP.  You
already have one tunnel through the VPN so, I would imagine it's possible
but VERY slow over a 56K link.  I never had to implement NWIP but from my
understanding this allows you to tunnel IPX over a wan link so, the
client/server still needs to run IPX.  The best solution(IMHO) is to add a
NetWare 5 Server running IP/IPX have VPN clients connect to the NetWare 5
Server via a pure IP client and this will allow them to get IPX based
services on your NetWare 4.1x servers.  WKelly wrote detailed instructions
on this a couple of weeks ago.

Hope this helps.

Keith Townsend
MCSE, CNE, CCNA


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>
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> Any suugestions on making this work?
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Frame Relay test tool (must be SW)

[Serhat Erkan]

Is there any Frame Relay test tool for Routers (snmp based) ? 
I need one... 


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Re: After supernetting!!

[Brian]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, jeongwoo park wrote:

> Hi all
> Let’s say there are 5 subnets (Class B/16 subnet mask)
> consisting of approximately 500 DHCP clients and 20
> servers.
> Someone as a Network Expert suggested flattening the
> network. As a Network newbie, I simply followed the
> instruction from the book on how to supernet, and
> finally summarized those 5 contiguous subnets into
> following address: 123.80.0.0/14 (**this is a made-up
> number) Now I am done with supernetting. What is the
> next to be done?
> What should I do with this ip address? 
> Should I go to physically to these 520 stations one by
> one for new tcp/ip setup? I think there should be
> better way than this.

Supernetting, summarizing, whatever you want to call it, at aggregation
points within your network is a great idea, so yes I agree that somewhere
in your network you should try to aggregate routes as much as possible.

Flattening a /14 worth of space and giving users a 255.252.0.0 netmask on
their desktops sounds more like "Super-kludging" than "supernetting" :)

Why would you have 520 stations consuming a /14 worth of space anyways?

Brian


> 
> Looking for your help…
> 
> Thanks
> jw
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PPPoE

[Rahul Kachalia]

http://www.windriver.com/ivasion/index.html

rahul
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> Hmmm...  PPOE is a pretty specialize application.  We used it when I
worked
> for Covad.  The application is a driver for WIN98_SE.  Their is an ATM
over
> Ethernet or RFC1483 patch added @ install.  So, for security, it's regular
> Windows stuff.
>
> That's all I know, you may want to check www.DSLReports.com  They have
great
> info on home broadband, & don't forget to apply the window tweak (it's
under
> tools)...
>
> Good Luck !!!
> Phil
>
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> Subject: PPPoE
>
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I would thank a lot if someone could give me any kind of information
about
> > third-party software for Windows OS family for providing a way of
> > user/password authentication in environments in wich the connection to
the
> > ISP is "always on".
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Juanjo Romero.
> > Transport & Access Networks Engineer
> > CCNA
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Re: DNS Problem

[Mark Nguyen]

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info. I was just getting sick of all the misinformation so I
> over-simplified a bit and optimized for the most usual case. I was glad to
> get your response, though, since you obviously have the Authoritative
> Answer bit set! &;-)

:) I am by no means the authority on this... just trying to help (just
like you :-)

> So, why would a DNS query generate a response that would be larger than 500
> bytes, though?? I am aware of the Truncation bit in the DNS header, but
> have never seen it set. Just trying to learn. Thanks.
> 
> Priscilla

Most of the times the DNS query responses will not exceed the 512 bytes
or so.  I guess this "rollover to TCP" was put in place as a
precaution.  When troubleshooting, one might want query a domain with
the "set q=any" option.  This returns lots of information about the
domain which might (depending on the domain) push it over the UDP
payload limit.

Whether to use TCP DNS queuries is up to the requester.  Some clients
prefer the connection oriented approach... this is the case with Cisco's
Distributed Director, which uses TCP DNS queries as a way of testing
response times.  You could also force a TCP query by using the vc
option.

I'll include this link on my web server for those who are interested in
deeper reading into DNS enjoy :-).

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1034.txt?number=1034
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1035.txt?number=1035

mark

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Re: Redistribution od Static Routes

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Watson, Rick, , OUSDC wrote:

> Does the following lines extracted from a configuration redistribute all
> static routes on the router? Or will I have to go through and add the
> specific static routes and redistribute them? Trying to t-shoot an issue and
> was wondering if redistribution of static routes (or lack thereof) was
> causing problemsIf more info is necessary please contact me offline

It should redistribute all statics

> 
> - extracted lines begin 
> 
> router ospf 989
>  redistribute static subnets
>  network 192.68.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0.0.0.0
>  maximum-paths 2
> 
> - extracted lines end -
> 
> Rick Watson
> Network Engineer
> OUSD(Comptroller)
> 703.697.5710
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Re: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?

[Russell Tse]

Hi,

It is a fixed config switch with the following built-in hardware.

Catalyst 2926T

- Catalyst 5000 chassis
- 1.2Gb backplane
- Supervisor I
- 24 10/100
- 2 x 100TX (ISL/FEC)

Sorry, I don't have one for sale.

Best regards

Russell

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Subject: Catalyst 2926: ANYBODY GOT ONE?


> I understand that these switches have the same command set as a CAT 5xxx
> Is this true?
> Also, can these things take an RSM/SP?
> 
> If so, I'd like one 'cos I gather they are a heck of a lot cheaper than a
> CAT5xxx!
> 
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Routing Protocol

[AVI]

Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other protocols
Is it EIGRP or BGP
Thanks
 

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help - Source Route Bridge

[Minh Vu]

Anyone have resource/information on Source 
Route Bridge ? (ie: URL) I need for study.
 
Thanks

Radius or Tacacs

[Parris, Brian]

Could somebody please explain to me why I would want a Radius Server when
authenticating a VPN client through my PIX on an NT Server network rather
than just authenticating locally on the PIX.  

Also, what is the advantage of Tacacs and is there any software that can
perform these duties for less than the $4000 that the Steel-Belted Radius
and CiscoSecure ACS software cost.  I'm not going to have but a few users
and can't justify these prices.

TIA,
Brian Parris
Network Admin.
www.carotek.com  

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Re: IP RIP V.1 in the LAB ?

[Phil Barker]

The IP addresses are configured like this.

TOP S0 192.168.2.5/30
TOP S1 192.168.1.9/30

LEFT S0 192.168.2.6/30
LEFT Eth0 147.89.1.100/24 

RIGHT S0 192.168.1.10/30
RIGHT Eth0 147.89.1.101/24

So, 192.168.1.0 is can be distinguished from
192.168.2.0 .

I'll post the configs on Friday when I get back home.

Regards,

Phil.



--- Rodgers Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi
all,
> 
> another $.02, This doesn't look like a topology that
> Split horizon would be
> a factor.  I'd suspect (given the total absence of
> information) that this is
> a classful issue.  RIP from "Right" would send a
> null update, if there was
> nothing to send, ie. the other router, "Left", knows
> how to reach all of the
> "classful" networks.  Left sent its update first,
> so, Right just sends null
> updates.
> 
> Rodgers Moore
> 
> "Phil Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
>
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Gang,
> >Three Routers in a triangle. Labelled Top,
> Left
> > and Right. Serial Connections between Top -> Left,
> and
> > Top -> Right. Ethernet connection between Left and
> > Right. Sniffer placed on Ethernet segment.
> >
> > The Top Router has 2 routes to the Ethernet
> segment
> > and is Load Balancing.
> > The Right Router is my problem. It only learns one
> > route to the network TOP->Left via the Serial
> Route,
> > why doesn't it learn this network via the Ethernet
> > Segment also ?
> >
> > Sniffer can see the network Top->left being
> advertised
> > by the Router left. debug on Router Right reveals
> > supressing Null Update ???
> >
> > When I cut the link Top-Right the Network
> Top->Left is
> > eventually flushed out ???
> >
> > I'm baffled,
> >
> > Can anyone help out ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> >
> >
>

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Help on - Remote-Source-Route-Bridging - RSRB

[Minh Vu]

Anyone have any resource/URL on 
Remote-Source-Route-Bridging? (ie: documentation, white paper, 
configuration)
 
 
Any input would help.
 
Thanks

Re: OSPF and static routes

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

I'm really glad someone tested it! Your results mean that we aren't losing 
our minds. Just one question, did you misspeak here:

"When I issued the same command while the
router was configured without the static it indicated it was being
learned via 10.1.1.1 and being redistributed into ospf."

You don't mean redistributed, do you? It's part of the OSPF database in 
this case, isn't it? Just want to make sure we're on the same page. Thanks.

Priscilla


At 11:20 PM 11/7/00, Frank B. wrote:
>  Jenny & "da group",
>
>  Like many of you I'm studying for the lab--big date(s) are
>21/22 June.  This one caught my eye so I attempted to duplicate it as
>best I could...I set up the following lab:
>
>  RTR~D<--serial-->RTR~A<--Eth-->RTR~B<--Eth-->RTR~C
>  2500 2500  7507   2500
>  Aera 1 Area 1/0Area0 Area 0/2
>
>  RTR~D
>  interface Ethernet0
>   ip address 50.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
>  !
>  interface Serial1
>   ip address 10.3.3.1 255.255.255.0
>  !
>  router ospf 4
>  network 10.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
>  network 50.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 1
>
>  RTR~A
>  !
>  interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
>  !
>  interface Serial1
>  ip address 10.3.3.2 255.255.255.0
>  !
>  router ospf 1
>  network 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>  network 10.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
>
>  RTR~B
>  interface Ethernet0/0
>   ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
>  !
>  interface Ethernet0/2
>   ip address 10.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
>  !
>  router ospf 1
>   network 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>   network 10.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>  RTR~C
>  !
>  interface Ethernet0
>   ip address 10.2.2.1 255.255.255.0
>  !
>  router ospf 69
>   network 10.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>  
>
>  I was unable to duplicate the problem...I did verify that the 7507
>(RTR~B) removed the inter-area for 50.0.0.0 from it's routing table
>route learned via RTR~A when configured with the static route--as
>expected.  However, the LSA was passed to RTR~C under both
>configurations.
>
>  While the static was configured I issued "sh ip route 50.0.0.0" on
>RTR~B and it showed known via static and DID NOT indicate
>"redistributing via ospf X."   When I issued the same command while the
>router was configured without the static it indicated it was being
>learned via 10.1.1.1 and being redistributed into ospf.
>
>I expected those results but I was curious just the same.  The bottom
>line in our lab scenario above, existance of the static route only
>affected the routing table of the router on which the static was
>entered. Further, the link state database on RTR~C also appeared to have
>the same contents with both configs on RTR~B.
>
>  I'm convinced this is proper behavior for ospf.  If you're seeing
>something else you may very well have stumbled upon a not-so-uncommon
>IOS bug.  I may have overlooked something though...it's been known to
>happen ;-)   Comments are welcome.   Aloha, Frank
>
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Had a problem today that doesn't make much sense to me.
> > >
> > > Very simplified layout (hopefully not oversimplified...)
> > >
> > > RTA -- RTB -- RTC
> > >
> > > RTB gets a summary LSA for a network, call it 50.0.0.0, from RTA.  This
> > summary
> > > LSA is visible with the command 'show ip ospf da su'.
> > > There is also a static route for 50.0.0.0 on RTB, with admin distance 1.
> > Not
> > > surprisingly, this overrides the OSPF route in RTB's routing table.  The
> > static
> > > route is NOT redistributed into OSPF.
> > >
> > > RTB is adjacent with RTC.  However the summary LSA for 50.0.0.0 does not
> > get to
> > > RTC (as shown by 'show ip ospf da su'), and RTC has no route to 50.0.0.0
> > (as
> > > shown by 'show ip ro').
> > > If the static route is taken off RTB, OSPF sends the summary LSA to RTC
> > again,
> > > and an OSPF route to 50.0.0.0 shows up in RTC's routing table.
> > >
> > > I was under the impression that routing protocols are generally 'ships in
> > the
> > > night' in their operation (in that they each work out what they consider
> > to be
> > > the best route, and then the routing process chooses between routing
> > protocols).
> > > Why does adding a static route (not redistributed) affect what LSAs OSPF
> > sends?
> > > Shouldn't RTC get sent the summary LSA even though RTB has a better 
> static
> > route
> > > - how does the OSPF process on RTB even know about the existence of the
> > static
> > > route??
> > >
> > > Am I missing something really basic here?
> > > The layout is in reality rather more complex - the RTA-RTB link is in the
> > > backbone area, the RTB-RTC link is in a different area, and the summary
> > route
> > > originates from a third area.  There are also redundant routers involved.
> > If
> > > you have any theories that involve complexities like this, I can give 
> more
> > > detail.
> > >
> > > Ta,
> > > JMcL
> > >
> > > p.s. over in this part of the world, we have a far more popular

RE: Routing Protocol

[Chris Lemagie]

EIGRP will
redistribute other routing protocols such as Novell IPX and AppleTalk.  BGP will not.

 

 

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Can anyone
tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other protocols 
Is it EIGRP or BGP 

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Re: CID (640-025)

[Carl Mirsky]

Howdy Folks.  Just passed my CIT yesterday and finished my CCNP. Another
goofy test.  Unlike the other exams, there were no choices to select for the
fill-ins. You need to know your CLI commands.  I would like to thank
everyone on this list for helping me out.   I am planning on taking the CID
next.  What are the best study guides for the exam in your opinion?  I
already have Top Down by Priscilla and have read this for the CCDA.  Thanks
for your input.

" Integrity Can Be Communicated"

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CCNP, MCSE, SCSA
Technical Solutions Consultant
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RE: Routing Protocol

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Chris Lemagie wrote:

> EIGRP will redistribute other routing protocols such as Novell IPX and
> AppleTalk.  BGP will not. ~~~

You mean "routed" protocols.

-brian


> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Routing Protocol
> 
> Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other
> protocols
> Is it EIGRP or BGP
> Thanks
> 
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Re: help - Source Route Bridge

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Minh Vu wrote:

> Anyone have resource/information on Source Route Bridge ? (ie: URL) I need for study.


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_c/bcprt2/bcdovnet.htm

> 
> Thanks
> 

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Re: Radius or Tacacs

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Parris, Brian wrote:

> Could somebody please explain to me why I would want a Radius Server when
> authenticating a VPN client through my PIX on an NT Server network rather
> than just authenticating locally on the PIX.  

When your dealing with dozen, hundreds, thousands of users, local
authentication doesn't scale.  If you have a few users, no big
deal.  Personally I like getting "user" level configs out of the IOS and
into a centralized server.

> 
> Also, what is the advantage of Tacacs and is there any software that can
> perform these duties for less than the $4000 that the Steel-Belted Radius
> and CiscoSecure ACS software cost.  I'm not going to have but a few users
> and can't justify these prices.

TACACS is cool because it can account for people going to your routers and
executing commands, going to enable, etc.

Brian


> 
> TIA,
> Brian Parris
> Network Admin.
> www.carotek.com  
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Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Kevin O'Gilvie]

Hi guys,

I currently have a study group of seven people we are going to chip in for
CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we spend the money
that we are getting the right stuff at the right price. Please advise as to
what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we plan to purchase
later.. Below is the quote:
1   2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00   $1,195.00
2   2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00   $1,295.00
3   2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
4   2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00   $1,295.00
5   2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00   $1,295.00
6   V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00 $400.00
7   4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00 $995.00
8MB Main, 4MB Shared
8MB Flash Memory
8   NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00 $750.00
9   WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1   $595.00 $595.00
1 Port 100bFX

SuB Total   $8,815.00
Discount$881.50
Total   $7,933.50

Thanks in advance,

Kevin

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Re: After supernetting!!

[Kevin Wigle]

I think the original poster misunderstands that supernetting is a routing
function and not something you configure on the PC, but then maybe we're
only confusing terms

I have flattened a network before and more planning is required than one
might think.

For only 520 addresses, a 255.255.252.0 or /22 would suffice.

You might want a separate network for the server farm.  There still might be
reasons for separate subnets (or vlans).

And why visit all the machines?  DHCP was mentioned, the DHCP scope should
be changed and that's it. (depending on what you're sending down).

Servers will probably need to be done manually and the router for the
segment will have to be modified.

But the best part is that I get to ask the question: What problem are you
trying to solve?

The last time I got to flatten a network was when the network was being
re-addressed because of lack of address allocation.  There were 10 subnets
spanning 2 class C's.

We also moved from a routed backbone to a switched backbone.

The migration was a success but we planned it for well over a month due to
number of servers that we didn't have direct control over and the
co-ordination that required.

Anyway, I think the short answer is - why can't changing the DHCP parameters
handle your new addressing scheme?  sorry - that was a question!

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "jeongwoo park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: After supernetting!!


> On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, jeongwoo park wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> > Let's say there are 5 subnets (Class B/16 subnet mask)
> > consisting of approximately 500 DHCP clients and 20
> > servers.
> > Someone as a Network Expert suggested flattening the
> > network. As a Network newbie, I simply followed the
> > instruction from the book on how to supernet, and
> > finally summarized those 5 contiguous subnets into
> > following address: 123.80.0.0/14 (**this is a made-up
> > number) Now I am done with supernetting. What is the
> > next to be done?
> > What should I do with this ip address?
> > Should I go to physically to these 520 stations one by
> > one for new tcp/ip setup? I think there should be
> > better way than this.
>
> Supernetting, summarizing, whatever you want to call it, at aggregation
> points within your network is a great idea, so yes I agree that somewhere
> in your network you should try to aggregate routes as much as possible.
>
> Flattening a /14 worth of space and giving users a 255.252.0.0 netmask on
> their desktops sounds more like "Super-kludging" than "supernetting" :)
>
> Why would you have 520 stations consuming a /14 worth of space anyways?
>
> Brian
>
>
> >
> > Looking for your help.
> >
> > Thanks
> > jw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Daniel Cotts]

ISDN simulator.
Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I currently have a study group of seven people we are going 
> to chip in for
> CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we 
> spend the money
> that we are getting the right stuff at the right price. 
> Please advise as to
> what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we 
> plan to purchase
> later.. Below is the quote:
> 1 2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00   
> $1,195.00
> 2 2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00   
> $1,295.00
> 3 2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> 4 2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00   
> $1,295.00
> 5 2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00   
> $1,295.00
> 6 V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00 
>   $400.00
> 7 4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00 
>   $995.00
>   8MB Main, 4MB Shared
>   8MB Flash Memory
> 8 NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00 
>   $750.00
> 9 WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1   
> $595.00   $595.00
>   1 Port 100bFX
> 
> SuB Total $8,815.00
> Discount  $881.50
> Total $7,933.50
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Kevin
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Re: IGMPv1 question

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 03:12 PM 11/8/00, jack wrote:
>Hi all,
>I don't know if someone has passed the BCMSN test but there is
>something strange in the book about IGMP:
>It says that the host sends a Host Membership Report to the all-router 
>group address 224.0.0.2
>which I believe is wrong. The host sends a report to its Group address, 
>not to 224.0.0.2

I did the Foundation test so I could avoid BCMSN! &;-) But, I have 
researched IGMP, and you are right. 224.0.0.2 is for Leave messages in 
IGMPv2. In IGMPv1, routers query to find members and hosts can also send 
unsolicited Membership Reports. The hosts send Membership Reports to the 
group address, not to the routers. The routers are listening for the groups 
they know about, so this works.

RFC 1112, which specifies IGMPv1, says this:

"Multicast routers send Host Membership Query messages (hereinafter called 
Queries) to discover which host groups have members on their attached local 
networks. Queries are addressed to the all-hosts group (address 224.0.0.1).

Hosts respond to a Query by generating Host Membership Reports (hereinafter 
called Reports), reporting each host group to which they belong on the 
network interface from which the Query was received.

In order to avoid an 'implosion' of concurrent Reports and to reduce the 
total number of Reports transmitted ... a Report is sent with an IP 
destination address equal to the host group address being reported, so that 
other members of the same group on the same network can overhear the 
Report. Thus, in the normal case, only one Report will be generated for 
each group present on the network, by the member host whose delay timer 
expires first. Note that the multicast routers receive all IP multicast 
datagrams, and therefore need not be addressed explicitly. Further note 
that the routers need not know which hosts belong to a group, only that at 
least one host belongs to a group on a particular network."

I also checked Beau Williamson's book, "Developing IP Multicast Networks," 
which is a great book, BTW. He mentions a feature that is commonplace, that 
in fact I thought was in RFC 1112, but it doesn't actually seem to be. He 
says that, to reduce join latency, particularly when a host is the first to 
join a group, a host can immediately send an unsolicited Membership Report. 
The Report goes to the group address. Williamson says that people assume 
that the Report goes to routers, but it actually goes to the group address.

Also, see the Cisco page here, which confirms this:

http://www.ieng.com/warp/public/473/22.html


The main feature of IGMPv2 is that hosts can send an Leave Message. When a 
host wants to leave a group, it should send a Leave Group message to 
destination 224.0.0.2, instead of leaving silently like in IGMPv1. That 
lets routers more easily learn when there are no hosts left for a group, so 
they can stop multicasting to that group. Good thing.

I think a lot of books get IGMP slightly wrong. It's a shame.

Priscilla

>Can any one verify this?
>And does the same thing happen with IGMPv2 ?
>
>
>Thanks!
>Jack Svolakis
>




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Re: Free Desk and Travel Alarm Clock from Cisco

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 08:54 AM 11/8/00, Irving X Weiss wrote:


>And if you respond by December 15, 2000, we'll send
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>for your valuable time and feedback.

And they'll give your name and postal address away to a bunch of other 
companies and expand your junk mail exponentially. I put my title as "chief 
junk mail receiver" on one of these Cisco giveaways so I could track who 
they gave my address to. It was an eye-opener. &;-)

Priscilla


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How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Jack Walker]

All,

Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?

I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC on a
production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can not
push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there any
other ways to verify the CIR?

Thanks

Jack




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RE: Free Cisco Alarm Clock

[Anton Khan]

There 
is also an offer to get a free retractable modem cord if you are not interested 
in the alarm clock (which I was...thanks Luke).
 
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/buffer/offer/listening/cord/1430_jumpmc/V597-100-9M
 
Anton

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  Clock
   
   
   
  Fill out the form before December 15th to 
  receive your free alarm clock:
   
  http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/buffer/offer/listening/clock/1430_jumpc/-XXX-XX
   
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Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Jeff McCoy]

I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
switch, other encaps will not.

""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> All,
>
> Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
>
> I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC on
a
> production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
not
> push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there any
> other ways to verify the CIR?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
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RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Kevin O'Gilvie]

Where can I get a ISDN simulator from ?  How much do the cost? Can I do
without the 5000 switch for now because they are too expensive?? How much do
the used 5x00 switches run for? How much should we be looking to spend in
total?

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:55 PM
To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision


ISDN simulator.
Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I currently have a study group of seven people we are going
> to chip in for
> CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we
> spend the money
> that we are getting the right stuff at the right price.
> Please advise as to
> what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we
> plan to purchase
> later.. Below is the quote:
> 1 2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00
> $1,195.00
> 2 2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00
> $1,295.00
> 3 2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> 4 2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00
> $1,295.00
> 5 2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00
> $1,295.00
> 6 V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00
>   $400.00
> 7 4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00
>   $995.00
>   8MB Main, 4MB Shared
>   8MB Flash Memory
> 8 NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00
>   $750.00
> 9 WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1
> $595.00   $595.00
>   1 Port 100bFX
>
> SuB Total $8,815.00
> Discount  $881.50
> Total $7,933.50
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Kevin
>
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RE: CID (640-025)

[Croyle, James]

After reading Priscilla's book, I read the Cisco Press DCN, and finished the
test in 90 minutes, got 830 or so, and thought it was the most straight
forward Cisco test yet.  Hint.  Draw the case studies in completely, and
refer back to them.  Don't redraw, and add detail each time, that is simply
a time-waster.

Jim Croyle

Network Engineer

PS  Thanks Priscilla for your assistance, both in this list, and from the
book on my shelf.  :-)

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID (640-025)


Howdy Folks.  Just passed my CIT yesterday and finished my CCNP. Another
goofy test.  Unlike the other exams, there were no choices to select for the
fill-ins. You need to know your CLI commands.  I would like to thank
everyone on this list for helping me out.   I am planning on taking the CID
next.  What are the best study guides for the exam in your opinion?  I
already have Top Down by Priscilla and have read this for the CCDA.  Thanks
for your input.

" Integrity Can Be Communicated"

Carl Mirsky
CCNP, MCSE, SCSA
Technical Solutions Consultant
Sprint ENS


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2 down, 2 to go...

[NeoLink2000]

Hey all,
 Well, I did it. Knocked the BSCN out of the box today. I didn't get the 
best score in the world but I did have plenty room to spare. I used the ACRC, 
BGP Bible (Halabi), and the Routing Exam Cram. At one point Halabi's started 
to hurt my brain so I had to give it up half way through. Great book though. 
I have to say that this is the hardest test I have EVER taken. I thought I 
was failing it before I got even halfway through it. I guess that made it all 
the much sweeter when I saw "Congratulations" at the end. Next up...BCRAN and 
then the CIT...and thats it. Well, until the CID that is. I'd like to thank 
the list for discussions on BGP that have come in the more recent past. They 
really helped. Thanks guys and I'll see you on the list...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/2-NP

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Fragments Timed Out and Fragments Dropped Intermitent...weird problem

[Mike Peterson]

Hi All,

We are having Fragments Timed Out and Fragments Dropped on our network with  
  the following
layout:

TANDEM(main site, NIC FastEthernet)CAT5500(main site)---WAN(T3)---
   CAT5000(backup site)TANDEM(backup site, NIC FastEther)

>From time to time TANDEM people get Fragments dropped and Fragment Timed Out 
   on backup site .
If I lock at the SWITCHES and RSM I am not
seeing any collisions (no errors) nor trims or packet missed.
The application use udp protocol.
I contacted CISCO but till they don't have any clue , only they keep
asking me to use a sniffer to capture the traffic and send it to them,
nothing wrong on that but since this problem ocurr rondomly some time even   
sunday night at
3:00
am when is not to much traffic is hard to capture  traffic when had ocurred.
Has anyone seeing this and how can I fix it?
Thank you, all for your help in advance.

Mike




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Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Jack Walker]

Jeff,

I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands, no
luck.

Thanks

Jack

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> I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
> switch, other encaps will not.
>
> ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8ucb78$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ucb78$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > All,
> >
> > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> >
> > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC
on
> a
> > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
> not
> > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
any
> > other ways to verify the CIR?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Classes for CCNP

[jason . d . tomisser]

Hello all.  I have a small dilemma and I need your opinions…my employer
will allow me to take two of the four classes for CCNP.  Which two are
the most important/hardest?  BCMSN, BSCN, BCRAN, CIT?

Thanks!
-j

RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:

> Where can I get a ISDN simulator from ?  

ebay usually has some.  

How much do the cost?

$1500 - $1800 usually.

 Can I do
> without the 5000 switch for now because they are too expensive?? 

You can try to find a 2901 for about $1500 if your lucky.  You don't need
the 1924 switch below if you have a Cat 2901, 2926T, 5002, etc.

Also you have no tokein ring MAU below, you will want one of those as
well.  Also 2 or so more cross over cables would be nice.  You need 3
cables just to do full mesh.  You may wish to have a couple routers back
to back in addition to the mesh.




How much do
> the used 5x00 switches run for? How much should we be looking to spend in
> total?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:55 PM
> To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> 
> 
> ISDN simulator.
> Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I currently have a study group of seven people we are going
> > to chip in for
> > CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we
> > spend the money
> > that we are getting the right stuff at the right price.
> > Please advise as to
> > what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we
> > plan to purchase
> > later.. Below is the quote:
> > 1   2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00
> > $1,195.00
> > 2   2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > $1,295.00
> > 3   2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> > 4   2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > $1,295.00
> > 5   2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > $1,295.00
> > 6   V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00
> > $400.00
> > 7   4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00
> > $995.00
> > 8MB Main, 4MB Shared
> > 8MB Flash Memory
> > 8   NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00
> > $750.00
> > 9   WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1
> > $595.00 $595.00
> > 1 Port 100bFX
> >
> > SuB Total   $8,815.00
> > Discount$881.50
> > Total   $7,933.50
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Daniel Cotts]

2504 has 2 serial, 1 ISDN BRI S/T, 1 Token Ring
2513 has 2 serial, 1 Ethernet, 1 Token Ring

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:54 PM
> To: Brian
> Cc: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> 
> 
> Which router should I add or replace for the token ring MAU?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:41 PM
> To: Kevin O'Gilvie
> Cc: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> 
> 
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:
> 
> > Where can I get a ISDN simulator from ?
> 
> ebay usually has some.
> 
> How much do the cost?
> 
> $1500 - $1800 usually.
> 
>  Can I do
> > without the 5000 switch for now because they are too expensive??
> 
> You can try to find a 2901 for about $1500 if your lucky.  
> You don't need
> the 1924 switch below if you have a Cat 2901, 2926T, 5002, etc.
> 
> Also you have no tokein ring MAU below, you will want one of those as
> well.  Also 2 or so more cross over cables would be nice.  You need 3
> cables just to do full mesh.  You may wish to have a couple 
> routers back
> to back in addition to the mesh.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How much do
> > the used 5x00 switches run for? How much should we be 
> looking to spend in
> > total?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:55 PM
> > To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> >
> >
> > ISDN simulator.
> > Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I currently have a study group of seven people we are going
> > > to chip in for
> > > CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we
> > > spend the money
> > > that we are getting the right stuff at the right price.
> > > Please advise as to
> > > what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we
> > > plan to purchase
> > > later.. Below is the quote:
> > > 1 2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00
> > > $1,195.00
> > > 2 2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 3 2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> > > 4 2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 5 2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 6 V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00
> > >   $400.00
> > > 7 4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00
> > >   $995.00
> > >   8MB Main, 4MB Shared
> > >   8MB Flash Memory
> > > 8 NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00
> > >   $750.00
> > > 9 WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1
> > > $595.00   $595.00
> > >   1 Port 100bFX
> > >
> > > SuB Total $8,815.00
> > > Discount  $881.50
> > > Total $7,933.50
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
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Anybody else take the CCIE Security beta test?

[Arthur Stewart]

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RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Kevin O'Gilvie]

Which router should I add or replace for the token ring MAU?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:41 PM
To: Kevin O'Gilvie
Cc: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision


On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:

> Where can I get a ISDN simulator from ?

ebay usually has some.

How much do the cost?

$1500 - $1800 usually.

 Can I do
> without the 5000 switch for now because they are too expensive??

You can try to find a 2901 for about $1500 if your lucky.  You don't need
the 1924 switch below if you have a Cat 2901, 2926T, 5002, etc.

Also you have no tokein ring MAU below, you will want one of those as
well.  Also 2 or so more cross over cables would be nice.  You need 3
cables just to do full mesh.  You may wish to have a couple routers back
to back in addition to the mesh.




How much do
> the used 5x00 switches run for? How much should we be looking to spend in
> total?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:55 PM
> To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
>
>
> ISDN simulator.
> Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I currently have a study group of seven people we are going
> > to chip in for
> > CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we
> > spend the money
> > that we are getting the right stuff at the right price.
> > Please advise as to
> > what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we
> > plan to purchase
> > later.. Below is the quote:
> > 1   2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00
> > $1,195.00
> > 2   2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > $1,295.00
> > 3   2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> > 4   2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > $1,295.00
> > 5   2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > $1,295.00
> > 6   V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00
> > $400.00
> > 7   4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00
> > $995.00
> > 8MB Main, 4MB Shared
> > 8MB Flash Memory
> > 8   NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00
> > $750.00
> > 9   WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1
> > $595.00 $595.00
> > 1 Port 100bFX
> >
> > SuB Total   $8,815.00
> > Discount$881.50
> > Total   $7,933.50
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:

> Which router should I add or replace for the token ring MAU?

A token ring MAU is like the equivelent of an ethernet hub.  Your 2513 and
2504 could plug into it so they could communicate.  You can get one for
about $10 - $20 on ebay.

Brian


> 
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> To: Kevin O'Gilvie
> Cc: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> 
> 
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:
> 
> > Where can I get a ISDN simulator from ?
> 
> ebay usually has some.
> 
> How much do the cost?
> 
> $1500 - $1800 usually.
> 
>  Can I do
> > without the 5000 switch for now because they are too expensive??
> 
> You can try to find a 2901 for about $1500 if your lucky.  You don't need
> the 1924 switch below if you have a Cat 2901, 2926T, 5002, etc.
> 
> Also you have no tokein ring MAU below, you will want one of those as
> well.  Also 2 or so more cross over cables would be nice.  You need 3
> cables just to do full mesh.  You may wish to have a couple routers back
> to back in addition to the mesh.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How much do
> > the used 5x00 switches run for? How much should we be looking to spend in
> > total?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:55 PM
> > To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> >
> >
> > ISDN simulator.
> > Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I currently have a study group of seven people we are going
> > > to chip in for
> > > CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we
> > > spend the money
> > > that we are getting the right stuff at the right price.
> > > Please advise as to
> > > what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we
> > > plan to purchase
> > > later.. Below is the quote:
> > > 1 2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00
> > > $1,195.00
> > > 2 2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 3 2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> > > 4 2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 5 2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 6 V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00
> > >   $400.00
> > > 7 4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00
> > >   $995.00
> > >   8MB Main, 4MB Shared
> > >   8MB Flash Memory
> > > 8 NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00
> > >   $750.00
> > > 9 WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1
> > > $595.00   $595.00
> > >   1 Port 100bFX
> > >
> > > SuB Total $8,815.00
> > > Discount  $881.50
> > > Total $7,933.50
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
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Passed Support 2.0 - CCNP

[Richie, Nathan]

Title: Passed Support 2.0  - CCNP





I passed the Support 2.0 today to complete my CCNP.  It was my second try though.  I thought some of the questions were worded funny, but that seems to be common on these exams.  The best advice I can give is to take your time and use the process of elimination even if you are sure you know the right answer.

Thanks to everyone on this list that contributed.


Nathan Richie CCNP MCSE

CCNP

[Ralph . Filippelli]

Hi ,

I have begun my CCNP cert.  I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on
what books I need to get started.

I used Todd Lammle's books for my CCNA, They were pretty good.

Thanks
Ralph



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RE: Free Cisco Alarm Clock

[Lopez, Robert]

More free stuff from cisco...  

http://www.cisco.com/offer/listening/V633-100-70
 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:49 PM
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Subject: Free Cisco Alarm Clock


 
 
 
Fill out the form before December 15th to receive your free alarm clock:
 
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Classes for CCNP

[jason . d . tomisser]

Hello all.  I have a small dilemma and I need your opinions…my employer
will allow me to take two of the four classes for CCNP.  Which two are
the most important/hardest?  BCMSN, BSCN, BCRAN, CIT?

Thanks!
-j

Re: After supernetting!!

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

I would flatten the network "expert" that told you to flatten the network.
Thought you said there was DHCP server. Let the server allocate the
addresses.
With the whole world going to switches and vlans. Why would you want that
many hosts on the same subnet.
Five hundred stations broadcasting, has got to be a lot of traffic.
Duck

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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 4:20 PM
Subject: After supernetting!!


Hi all
Let's say there are 5 subnets (Class B/16 subnet mask)
consisting of approximately 500 DHCP clients and 20
servers.
Someone as a Network Expert suggested flattening the
network. As a Network newbie, I simply followed the
instruction from the book on how to supernet, and
finally summarized those 5 contiguous subnets into
following address: 123.80.0.0/14 (**this is a made-up
number) Now I am done with supernetting. What is the
next to be done?
What should I do with this ip address?
Should I go to physically to these 520 stations one by
one for new tcp/ip setup? I think there should be
better way than this.

Looking for your help.

Thanks
jw







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RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision

[Kevin O'Gilvie]

Cool thanks alot Brian and company you have been a great help. I am going to
have to expand my group because this is going to get expensive but at least
we will all get the hands on we need to compete in the marketplace. If
anyone in NY is interested in joining our group just shoot me a email..

Cheers,

Kevin
MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA 2.0, CCNP 2.0 (3 more to go..passed BCMSN)

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:58 PM
To: Kevin O'Gilvie
Cc: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision


On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:

> Which router should I add or replace for the token ring MAU?

A token ring MAU is like the equivelent of an ethernet hub.  Your 2513 and
2504 could plug into it so they could communicate.  You can get one for
about $10 - $20 on ebay.

Brian


>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:41 PM
> To: Kevin O'Gilvie
> Cc: Daniel Cotts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:
>
> > Where can I get a ISDN simulator from ?
>
> ebay usually has some.
>
> How much do the cost?
>
> $1500 - $1800 usually.
>
>  Can I do
> > without the 5000 switch for now because they are too expensive??
>
> You can try to find a 2901 for about $1500 if your lucky.  You don't need
> the 1924 switch below if you have a Cat 2901, 2926T, 5002, etc.
>
> Also you have no tokein ring MAU below, you will want one of those as
> well.  Also 2 or so more cross over cables would be nice.  You need 3
> cables just to do full mesh.  You may wish to have a couple routers back
> to back in addition to the mesh.
>
>
>
>
> How much do
> > the used 5x00 switches run for? How much should we be looking to spend
in
> > total?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 2:55 PM
> > To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> >
> >
> > ISDN simulator.
> > Catalyst 5000 Switch and modules.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kevin O'Gilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Please Help with CCNP/CCIE lab decision
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I currently have a study group of seven people we are going
> > > to chip in for
> > > CCNP/CCIE hardware. I just wanted to make sure before we
> > > spend the money
> > > that we are getting the right stuff at the right price.
> > > Please advise as to
> > > what we are missing besides ATM and Voice over IP which we
> > > plan to purchase
> > > later.. Below is the quote:
> > > 1 2501Cisco 2501 Router   1   $1,195.00
> > > $1,195.00
> > > 2 2503Cisco 2503 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 3 2504Cisco 2504 Router   1   $995.00 $995.00
> > > 4 2509Cisco 2509 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 5 2513Cisco 2513 Router   1   $1,295.00
> > > $1,295.00
> > > 6 V35MT/V35FC-W   Serial Cross Over Cable 4   $100.00
> > >   $400.00
> > > 7 4000-M  Cisco 4000-M Modular Router 1   $995.00
> > >   $995.00
> > >   8MB Main, 4MB Shared
> > >   8MB Flash Memory
> > > 8 NP-4T   4000 4 Port Serial Interface1   $750.00
> > >   $750.00
> > > 9 WS-C1924C-EN24 Port 10bT+1 Port 100bT + 1
> > > $595.00   $595.00
> > >   1 Port 100bFX
> > >
> > > SuB Total $8,815.00
> > > Discount  $881.50
> > > Total $7,933.50
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
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RE: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Taylor, Don]

Title: RE: How to verify the CIR from my router?





Try "debug frame-relay lmi" and wait for the full status enquiry (takes place every 6 updates, or 60 seconds, by default). If the switch is providing the CIR information in its updates, this is where you'll see it.

- Don


-Original Message-
From: Jack Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?



Jeff,


I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands, no
luck.


Thanks


Jack


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> I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
> switch, other encaps will not.
>
> ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > All,
> >
> > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> >
> > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC
on
> a
> > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
> not
> > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
any
> > other ways to verify the CIR?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Odell, Jeff]

show frame-relay map should show you the CIR.  I will paste the output of
one of my routers:

Router-R1#sh fra map
Serial0.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 500(0x1F4,0x7C40), broadcast, BW =
256000 status defined, active
Serial0.3 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 901(0x385,0xE050), broadcast, BW =
768000 status defined, active

This is a T-1 with two PVC's defined.  One is a 256K cir and the other is a
768 CIR.  The BW= shows the CIR.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Jack Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?


Jeff,

I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands, no
luck.

Thanks

Jack

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> I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
> switch, other encaps will not.
>
> ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8ucb78$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ucb78$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > All,
> >
> > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> >
> > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC
on
> a
> > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
> not
> > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
any
> > other ways to verify the CIR?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Passed Support 2.0 - CCNP

[vsdhillo:First vsdhillo:Last]

Title: Passed Support 2.0 - CCNP



Nathan, my exact thoughts as well. I passed the 
exam this morning too to complete my CCNP. Thanks to everyone here for their 
advice. Congrats!!!
--Vic

  ""Richie, Nathan"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
  message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I passed the Support 2.0 today to complete my 
  CCNP.  It was my second try though.  I thought some of the questions 
  were worded funny, but that seems to be common on these exams.  The best 
  advice I can give is to take your time and use the process of elimination even 
  if you are sure you know the right answer.
  Thanks to everyone on this list that 
  contributed. 
  Nathan Richie CCNP MCSE 

RE: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Ledwidge, Feargal]

"show frame-relay map" should show you the CIR.

Feargal

-Original Message-
From: Jack Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?


Jeff,

I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands, no
luck.

Thanks

Jack

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""Jeff McCoy"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
> switch, other encaps will not.
>
> ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8ucb78$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ucb78$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > All,
> >
> > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> >
> > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC
on
> a
> > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
> not
> > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
any
> > other ways to verify the CIR?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Free Cisco Alarm Clock

[James Woloszyn]

Thanks 
Guys,
 
Keep 
the Freebies coming
 
 

  -Original Message-From: Anton Khan 
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  PMTo: Luke Everett; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  Free Cisco Alarm Clock
  There is also an offer to get a free retractable 
  modem cord if you are not interested in the alarm clock (which I was...thanks 
  Luke).
   
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Backup Interface and Routing!

[Hans Schimek]

Hi!

i configured a serial link and an ISDN link between two routers.
the serial line is the primary line. if it fails the backup line
 ISDN-Interface)
takes over.
i configured RIP -
To prevent Routing Updates from establishing the call
i set the ISDN-Interface as PASSIVE.
Updates didn`t initate the call anymore.
BUT !
what about the routing information. if the primary fails, no routing updates
won`t flow. so i configured static routes with a higher administrative
distance
-

IS THERE ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM !


thanx in advance




=
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Re: Backup Interface and Routing!

[lawrence sculark]

are you using any snmp applications that monitor this backup link???
if so, you will need to use an access-list or place the isdn interface in 
standy-mode by [backup interface bri1/0] [backup delay]to prevent the snmp 
activity from polling your backup interface$lawrence


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>the serial line is the primary line. if it fails the backup line
>  ISDN-Interface)
>takes over.
>i configured RIP -
>To prevent Routing Updates from establishing the call
>i set the ISDN-Interface as PASSIVE.
>Updates didn`t initate the call anymore.
>BUT !
>what about the routing information. if the primary fails, no routing 
>updates
>won`t flow. so i configured static routes with a higher administrative
>distance
>-
>
>IS THERE ANOTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM !
>
>
>thanx in advance
>
>
>
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Re: CCNP

[Tom Keough]

I just received Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Paquet and Teare today
and it looks great.  I have read ACRC Exam Certification Guide and Advanced
Cisco Router Configuration (both by Cisco Press) and the new book seems to
have a different twist to the info covered in the version 1 books plus more
on BGP and optimizing routing update operation.

I ordered the book from Barnes and Noble and paid full price ($60) for it
(ISBN1-57870-228-3).  I plan to take the 640-503 on Dec. 4th...
Warmly,
Tom

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>
> I used Todd Lammle's books for my CCNA, They were pretty good.
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Re: Classes for CCNP

[Brian]

If I had to pick two classes it would be BSCN and BCMSN.  You will get
hands on Cat5000's and learn routers and switches very well in those
classes.  

Brian


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> will allow me to take two of the four classes for CCNP.  Which two are
> the most important/hardest?  BCMSN, BSCN, BCRAN, CIT?
> 
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RE: Classes for CCNP

[mannan venkatesan]

I would go for CIT and BSCN

Mannan

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will allow me to take two of the four classes for CCNP.  Which two are
the most important/hardest?  BCMSN, BSCN, BCRAN, CIT?

Thanks!
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Re: console or AUX port

[Rodgers Moore]

You know those blue ribbon console cables you get with a new router?  Look
at its pin out, it's a rolled cable.  This is exactly what you need to do to
the cables you have to make them work in the console port.   I'd just use an
8 pin modular splice and a blue console cable added onto the end of the
cable you already have.

Rodgers Moore

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plugging
> the octal cables into the AUX ports of the routers and everything works
> fine. Unfortueately the 1600's don't have an  AUX port so I tried the
> console port but I am unable to get it to work on the console port. From
> what others have told me this can be done. When I went to fatkid.com and
> looked at their reverse telnet lab they are connecting to the AUX port, in
> Calsow's book it says to connect to the console port. If anyone can help
me
> on this I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Keith Leonard]

Try a 'debug frame-relay lmi'.

Keith

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RE: Anybody else take the CCIE Security beta test?

[Coker, Michael]

 yes

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Re: Anybody else take the CCIE Security beta test?

[Stevan Pierce]

Scheduled for this Friday, why do you ask?
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Why not supernetting?

[jeongwoo park]

Hi All,
 
I am looking for advice on a LAN performance issue. i
am running primarily NT4 and win2K boxes on a 100Mbit
UTP Ethernet LAN.
 
my servers are on static IPs on one subnet while my
clients pick up DHCP addresses (assigned out of my
control) in any one of half a dozen other subnets.
file transfer and printing performance between client
and server is averaging 1Mbit/sec when computers are
in different subnets. switch the same two computers to
static IPs in the same subnet and throughput jumps to
a respectable 30-70Mbit/sec. i need to keep the
clients on DHCP as i don't have enough static IPs to
go around for the subnet the servers are in.
 
all clients and servers are attached to one of 5
Allied Telesyn 8126XL 24-port managed switches. all 5
of these "edge" switches connect to another switch of
the same model with a 100Mbit multi-mode (1300
nanometer) fiber uplink which connects to a Cisco
Catalyst 5500 for our routing needs.
 
When the clients are on different subnets the file
transfers appear to take a long trip through the
router with a huge performance penalty (1Mbit/sec).
when the client and server are on the same subnet the
packets do NOT appear to be routed (perhaps they are
handled using ARP?) and the performance is very good.
ping response times on both switches and routers is
under 20ms. This is where I believe supernetting could
be a solution to this slowness, because I think
supernetting allows me to put all stations in the same
subnet, witch avoids routing needs. 

I got some responses to my previous post from people
saying that supernetting would slow down the speed
because there would be too many stations in big
broadcast domain, which contradicts what I am willing
to do.

Am i missing some key concepts here that might improve
my understanding of this tragic performance?
 
 
any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
take care,

jw


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Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Jack Walker]

Thanks Jeff.

Actually,  I made a mistake, I was talking about E1, I noticed that when I
do a show frame map, the T1s in our network all display  their CIRs, but not
the E1s. This is interesting.




Serial3/1.4 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 495(0x1EF,0x78F0), broadcast
  status defined, active
Serial3/5.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090), broadcast
  status defined, active

Jack




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> show frame-relay map should show you the CIR.  I will paste the output of
> one of my routers:
>
> Router-R1#sh fra map
> Serial0.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 500(0x1F4,0x7C40), broadcast, BW
=
> 256000 status defined, active
> Serial0.3 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 901(0x385,0xE050), broadcast, BW
=
> 768000 status defined, active
>
> This is a T-1 with two PVC's defined.  One is a 256K cir and the other is
a
> 768 CIR.  The BW= shows the CIR.
>
> Jeff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
> here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands,
no
> luck.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
>
> --
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> > I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
> > switch, other encaps will not.
> >
> > ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > All,
> > >
> > > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> > >
> > > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new
PVC
> on
> > a
> > > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I
can
> > not
> > > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
> any
> > > other ways to verify the CIR?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
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Re: Backup Interface and Routing!

[Brian]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Hans Schimek wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> i configured a serial link and an ISDN link between two routers.
> the serial line is the primary line. if it fails the backup line
>  ISDN-Interface)
> takes over.
> i configured RIP -
> To prevent Routing Updates from establishing the call
> i set the ISDN-Interface as PASSIVE.
> Updates didn`t initate the call anymore.
> BUT !
> what about the routing information. if the primary fails, no routing updates
> won`t flow. so i configured static routes with a higher administrative
> distance
> -

configure the static route with a high AD like you did.  Don't make the
BRI passive, instead just use a dialer-list to define RIP as
"uninteresting".  Something like this:


interface BRI0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 bandwidth 128
 isdn spid2 00055512130101
 dialer map ip 192.168.1.2 5551212
 dialer-group 1
!
router rip
 network 192.168.1.0
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.2 240
access-list 101 deny udp any any eq rip
access-list 101 permit ip any any
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101




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> 
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Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[jenny . mcleod]

Try 'debug frame lmi' (don't forget to type 'term mon' to see the output if
you're not at the console, and turn the debug off after you've finished).  This
will give you (every minute) a list of PVCs that the switch knows about, and
their status.  According to the Cisco doco, it will also show the CIR.  It
doesn't on mine, but then I'm using ANSI LMI.

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Subject:  Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?



Jeff,

I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands, no
luck.

Thanks

Jack

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> I believe that encap frame-relay cisco will display CIR from the cloud
> switch, other encaps will not.
>
> ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > All,
> >
> > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> >
> > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC
on
> a
> > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
> not
> > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
any
> > other ways to verify the CIR?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
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RE: How to verify the CIR from my router?

[Stull, Cory]

I think it may depend on the version of IOS on the router.  I've got some
routers that show the same thing with sho fra map and some don't show the
bandwidth.

Cory

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To: 'Jack Walker'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How to verify the CIR from my router?


show frame-relay map should show you the CIR.  I will paste the output of
one of my routers:

Router-R1#sh fra map
Serial0.1 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 500(0x1F4,0x7C40), broadcast, BW =
256000 status defined, active
Serial0.3 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 901(0x385,0xE050), broadcast, BW =
768000 status defined, active

This is a T-1 with two PVC's defined.  One is a 256K cir and the other is a
768 CIR.  The BW= shows the CIR.

Jeff

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to verify the CIR from my router?


Jeff,

I am not user taffic shaping, so I am not sure which command can help me
here, I do have cisco encap, but I tried all those show frame ? commands, no
luck.

Thanks

Jack

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> switch, other encaps will not.
>
> ""Jack Walker"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > All,
> >
> > Just want to ask how I could verfify/display the CIR of my PVC?
> >
> > I know we could throw traffic to verify this, but I just got  a new PVC
on
> a
> > production router(we just add a new PVC on our production T1), so I can
> not
> > push traffic to the production router just to verify the PVC. Is there
any
> > other ways to verify the CIR?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
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RE: Rép. : Cisco Switch 2948G-L3 Question

[Perry Lucas]

The Layer3 version is different from Cat OS.

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Kevin Wigle
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Subject: Re: Rép. : Cisco Switch 2948G-L3 Question


Ok, as I said I haven't had one of these puppies in my hands yet.

But this is why I said what I did:

Fully integrated into the Catalyst family of switches, the Catalyst 2948G
uses the same Catalyst system software as the industry leading Catalyst
5000/5500 Series thereby ensuring complete interoperability with existing
Catalyst switches.

So, go figure..

Kevin



Kevin,

It's nothing like a 5K.  I've been working with one of these guys and the
IOS is just like a router.  Well, not like, but identical to a 48 port
10/100 router.  It's not like a switch at all.  I haven't had enough time
with it yet, but it seems VLANs are a foreign concept to it, except that you
can trunk out a port by sub-interfacing and setting the encaps to ISL. (just
like a router)  You setup a VLAN with IRB and a BVI interface.

I may be mistaken, I've only put a few hours in on the box.

Rodgers Moore

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> I'm a bit confused, perhaps I haven't played with this enough but I think
> you're getting too complicated.  The 2948G-L3 switch uses the same IOS as
> the Cat 5000 family.
>
> Also, I'm not sure if you can set any port to be admin or rather you can
> telnet into any port and admin the switch, a subtle but large difference.
>
> In the Cat 5000, by default, the admin VLAN is VLAN 1.
>
> It was mentioned that port 48 is in another VLAN (VLAN2 ?).  Without
> inter-VLAN routing, if the device you're pinging from is connected to
> VLAN1 - it won't get to VLAN2, which wouldn't matter anyways because if
you
> could ping port 48 you would still have to associate VLAN2 as being the
> admin vlan.  You do this by configuring the sc0 interface.
>
> You must set an ip address on sc0 and then you still must be plugged into
a
> port assigned to VLAN1.
>
> Otherwise, you can change the default admin VLAN with:
>
> set interface sc0 [vlan] [ip_addr [netmask [broadcast]]]
>
> Therefore you can assign sc0 an address and put it into any vlan you wish.
> Then you could telnet to it from any port assigned to that vlan. (unless
> routing gets you there to)
>
> Not sure this helps, I don't have a 2948G-L3 to play with but if it has
the
> same IOS as the Cat 5000 this should apply.
>
> Kevin Wigle
> CCDP/CCNP
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thierry MARTIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, 04 November, 2000 12:44
> Subject: Rép. : Cisco Switch 2948G-L3 Question
>
>
> > hello,
> >
> > Cisco switch 2948-L3 are IOS and each VLAN must be considere as Virtual
> Bridge.
> >
> > For VLAN 1, each port must have command "bridge-group 1"
> > and you do create a BVI with number 1.
> > The ip address for this VLNA will be in the BVI interface.
> >
> > Is it a configuration BRIDGE  IRB.
> >
> > Your config will be as :
> > !
> > hostname R1
> > !
> > bridge irb
> > !
> > interface bvi 1
> >  ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0
> > !
> > interface bvi 2
> >  ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/1
> >  bridge-group 1
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/2
> >  bridge-group 1
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/3
> >  bridge-group 1
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/4
> >  bridge-group 2
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/4
> >  bridge-group 2
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/5
> >  bridge-group 2
> > !
> > .../..
> > !
> > interface ethernet 0/48
> >  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> > !
> > bridge 1 protocol ieee
> >  bridge 1 bridge ip# default
> >  no bridge 1 route ip
> > bridge 3 protocol ieee
> >  bridge 1 bridge ip# default
> >  no bridge 1 route ip
> > !
> > router rip
> >  network 10.0.0.0
> >  network 172.16.0.0
> >  network 192.168.1.0
> >  no auto-summary
> > .../...
> >
> > You must do command in oder, or reboot is a good idea fur running IRB.
> >
> > ==> Is a CCIE Lab sujet.
> >
> > Best Regard
> >
> > THIERRY
> >
> >
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> > >>> Manoj Ghorpade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/11/00 02h01 >>>
> > Hi Group,
> > I have a Cisco 2948G-L3 switch and want to setup the management on the
> > switch.I tried doing things the documentation said but it won't work.
> > The documentation says anyone of the ports (1-48 Fastetherenet) can be
> > used for management or the 2 Gigabit ports 49-50 can be used for
> > management.
> >
> > I have a VLAN of first 6 ports in Bridge 1(1-6)( which i don't want to
> > touch) and rest all the ports in Bridge 2 (7-48).
> > I assigned an IP address to por

RE: Easy question about downloading-uploading IOS

[Carlos Márquez]

Thaks a lot for your information,

Jacques wrote:
>on router you may have tell the router what version of code you want it to
>load, that depends on how many version of code are in the flash.
>
>--
>Jacques


This is my problem: I have two Cisco 800 routers, one of them accepts ISDN
calls and the other don't. I have found in the Web a bug on the IOS version
of the second router. I want to try to put the IOS of the first router in
the second but I don't want to crash it. After the "copy tftp flash"  There
is something else to do?



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Routing protocol

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

I don't think this make sense.
Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a 
network.
The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive a 
packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination network 
in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate interface that can 
reach the destination network.
So routing is the process of:
1. declaring a destination
2. finding the destinaton
3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the 
destination.
Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything in 
between.
Duck

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  anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other protocols 
  Is it EIGRP or BGP 
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