Re: IS IS

2001-01-29 Thread Vadim Tulinov

Hello,

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html

Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed
   from the lab exam content:
LAT
DECnet
Apollo
Banyan VINES
ISO CLNS
XNS
ATM LANE
X.25

   Effective February 1, 2001, the following topic will be
   removed from the lab exam content:
Appletalk

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1912.htm#xtocid27250

As far as, I understand, this is meaning IS-IS was removed from lab.


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strange problem

2001-01-29 Thread suaveguru

hi I got a customer who intially has a defautl route
that does not work . Interesting is that when I take
out the statement and put in again it works perfect.

I am puzzled about such problem

ip classless is all the while in 

customer is running 25xx series routers

any form of input will be greatly appreciated

regards,

suaveguru

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Re: SH RUN reveals encrypted password

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Welch

The problem is that if you do not have access to show the running config, it
is ommited completely from the show tech-support.  At least when I tried it.

-- Kevin


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> I suggest that you setup password level between 2 and 14 and define them.
> For example just let the user use only "show tech-support " which will
hide
> all config that is deemed secure.  Just try the command and see.
>
> In fact CISCO engineers suggest that you use 8 or more characters and
> include underscore in your secret.  This cannot be cracked easily with
> software such as Loft etc.
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> Hope this helps.
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> > $1$vwIl$YEZxTVGPapUUVCD.c54Ya' invisible when doing a 'sh run' in user
> mode
> > ? The problem is that I want to allow RO access and also allow to
execute
> > the 'sh run' command, but that with a password decryptor, one could
eaily
> > decrypt the enable password.
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Re: Gateway of last resort ?

2001-01-29 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, Howard.

I just want to know what you mean by "subscribers only".
Does that mean you're running your own mailing list or something like
that? It seems to me it's just portion of what you've published on
that list before. Or from CertificationZone, maybe.

Well, I'm just curious about what missing "A" will be like.
Thanks

Regards,
Jaeheon


On 28 Jan 2001 20:57:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Howard C. Berkowitz")
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>subscribers only), Routing Principles and IOS Implementation 
>Considerations:
>
>B. Default Whatevers
>You will run across several terms that are often, and incorrectly, 
>considered synonymous: default routes, default gateways (default 
>routers), default networks, and gateways of last resort. These terms 
>refer to slightly different mechanisms, all of which are useful. This 
>section explains what each mechanism does.
>
>1. Default Route
>
>By convention, the address 0.0.0.0/0 is the default route, the least 
>specific possible route. Cisco sometimes uses the term pseudonetwork 
>to refer to 0.0.0.0/0. It is the route that you go to when you don't 
>have anyplace else to go. When it came time to pick softball teams in 
>my high school physical education classes, I was the default route.
>
>As opposed to being something to put in right field and forget, 
>default routes are quite useful in networking. They can be declared 
>with static routes, or they can be learned from dynamic routing 
>protocols. To create a static route defining the local default, code:
>
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 {next hop IP | outgoing interface}
>
>Created as a static route with an administrative distance less than 
>dynamic routing, a default route in the next-hop-ip format will be 
>used for the local router box, but not advertised unless it is 
>explicitly redistributed (or you use the outgoing interface form of 
>the static route command).
>Statically declared default routes of the interface-name format will 
>be advertised as if they were directly connected.
>
>Local configuration is not the only way your router can learn the 
>0.0.0.0/0 default route. It can be learned from dynamic routing 
>protocols such as OSPF and RIP. In the more recent IOS releases, you 
>can originate default from any of these routing processes with the 
>default-information-originate command. When you do this, the process 
>will advertise default to other routers, although it might use, 
>itself, the static route.
>default-information-originate has an optional parameter, the always 
>keyword. If you don't use always, the router will advertise default 
>only if it itself has an active default route.
>
>With always, the router will always advertise default, and will have 
>the behavior that it will blackhole routes to unknown destinations if 
>there is no default. A typical application for always would be where 
>you have a single ISP link to which you default, so you might as well 
>blackhole if you can't get to it.
>
>2. Default Gateway
>
>The default gateway is specifically intended for the situation when 
>no IP routing is enabled. It has the specific next hop address of the 
>gateway router.
>
>You would use this on a switch, or a router box that is only doing 
>bridging, so the box can reach network management servers not on the 
>same subnet. Another application for the default gateway comes during 
>booting from ROM, to find the TFTP server.
>
>In the IOS, you configure an IP default gateway with the command:
>
>ip default-gateway gateway-address
>
>where gateway-address is the address of a router interface on a 
>subnet to which your router is physically connected.
>
>3. Default Network
>
>The default network, used by IGRP and EIGRP, has only a prefix -- a 
>network or subnet -- so unless internal assumptions are made, there's 
>no way to know the specific next hop address.
>
>Always remember the KISS (Keep it simple, stupid) rule. Once you 
>understand what command is intended to do something, it isn't always 
>useful to keep looking for commands that might do the same thing. The 
>major reason to look for obscure command interpretations is that they 
>may be the cause of problems you are troubleshooting.
>
>In the real world of network design, the KISS rule is critical. On 
>the CCIE test, however, be prepared to be faced with scenarios that 
>violate this rule. One of the drivers of CCIE scenario writers seems 
>to be that you are very familiar with obscure parts of the IOS 
>command language. In addition, some CCIE lab scenarios may seem quite 
>contrived, due to the relatively small number of available routers.
>
>For those of you who have taken ACRC, you have had an experience that 
>will give you perspective on odd scenarios you may see. ACRC's 
>redistribution and BGP scenarios are very unrealistic with respect to 
>plausible real-world configurations. They are the best that can be 
>done with the standard classroom lab and its topology.
>
>See Scenario 2 for examples of the various default mechanisms.
>
>To

Re: Radiator

2001-01-29 Thread Steve Linney

Chan,

You can get it from this site, but it is not free:
http://www.open.com.au/radiator/

It is a very good Radius product and easy to modify/customize.

Steve
Cable & Wireless Optus

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> Does anyone know about a radius server known as Radiator? I heard that
it's
> free and can downloaded from web site,
> anyone know where can i get it from? it's is free??
>
> Than in advance
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> CCDA CCNA
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strange problem

2001-01-29 Thread suaveguru

hi I got a customer who intially has a defautl route
that does not work . Interesting is that when I take
out the statement and put in again it works perfect.

I am puzzled about such problem

ip classless is all the while in 

customer is running 25xx series routers

any form of input will be greatly appreciated

regards,

suaveguru

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RE: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...

2001-01-29 Thread Justin Menga

This is pretty common knowledge:

1.  ALWAYS match your OSPF network types - it is not just related to
Hello/Dead timers, the protocol operates totally differently for each mode
(e.g. point-to-point - no DR).

You should know this stuff like the back of your hand.  Study the way
adjacencies are formed on each of the network types

Regards,

Justin Menga  CCIE #6640  MCSE+I  CCSE
WAN Specialist
Computerland New Zealand
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:48 PM
To: Nigel Taylor; CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
Cc: Bryant Andrews
Subject: RE: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...


I too discovered this last night. I believe that part of the problem may be
in the absence of frame map statements, more specifically the lack of the
broadcast parameter, the LSAs are not getting propagated to the neighbors.
Any thoughts to this theory?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Nigel Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 11:21 AM
To: CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
Cc: Bryant Andrews
Subject: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...


Well,   =20
I hope buy now everyone has opened all their gifts and already =
know what it is they want for christmas next year.
In joy of the spirit I decided to work on some areas which I believe as =
mentioned by numerous member on list is of crucial importance in CCIE =
lab.  In this spirit I've learned another lesson, which goes as =
follows...

In this lab scenario the goal was to connect 3 routers R1, R2, and R3 in =
the typical HUB and Spoke topology.  In a partial=20
mesh all routers should be able to ping each other with out the use of =
the "frame-relay map" command with only sub-interfaces allowed in the =
HUB device.

Now, this is reasonably easy as this leaves 2 options to complete the =
required task. Configurations as follows=20
could get this done. The use of  various sub-interfaces with the =
"frame-relay interface-dlci" command depending=20
on other lab specific requirements(i.e multiple nets/subnets) or the use =
of a multi-point sub-interface to support both=20
spoke(s) over one network address assignment.  =20

I used 2 sub- interfaces to specify 2 networks.  What I observed was, =
although I had a neighbor adjacency between
 both spokes and the HUB(R1), the spokes was not learning the other =
network through OSPF.  I could ping the=20
HUB(R1) from both spokes, but could not ping through to R3(spoke) and =
vise-versa.  I know.. no ospf what do you expect..! =20
Another observation was from the Spoke devices R2 and R3 the HUB(R1) =
showed up as a BDR in full state.=20
 As well from the HUB the both spokes(R2,R3) showed up as adjacent =
neighbors in FULL state. =20

Closer investigation showed that from the HUB both sub-interfaces were =
using ospf network type point-to -point, however=20
from the  spokes(R2,R3) being physical interfaces and using the default =
of broadcast.  Well, this really doesn't stand
 as both of these network types use a 10 sec Hello timer and a 40 sec =
Dead timer.. right!

Wrong, apparently although the ospf network types hello/dead values =
matched this did not allow ospf to propagate the other networks to the =
spokes.  What solved this was either changing the spokes ospf network =
type to p-t-p as to match the HUB, or=20
changing the HUB links to broadcast.  When this was done the spokes both =
now knew of the other net work. =20

In doing some quick research Calsow's book makes mention of setting all =
interfaces to point-to-multipoint.  He also=20
mentions the problems faced with ospf network type mis-matches.  If one =
is not careful this could present a few problems and being not overly =
confident in my frame-relay skill-set would likely look to something in =
that part of the config for the answer to
my problem

Thoughts anyone...or is this common knowledge?

Nigel.

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HP openview reporting

2001-01-29 Thread Larry Ogun-Banjo

I once worked in a NOC where the routers report the state of their interfaces to
the monitoring system (HP Openview) ie when an interface goes down, an alarm is
seen by the administrator. I am interested to find information/sample
configuration that could assist me in configuring my routers to do the same. At
present, all I get is node up/down statements provided when HPOv polls the
router. Thanx


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Re: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Gallagher

The first problem that you encountered was due the fact of the network type
mismatch - different network types uses different timers.

For point-multipoint and non-broadcast:

Hello 30, Dead 120, Wait 120

For point-point:

Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40

So if you have differnt configuration at either end of the link, then there
will be no adjaceny formed between the two neighbours and as a result there
will be no routing info/LSA's transfered between then.

I would suggest that for this setup you should use the ospf network type "point
to mulitpoint", this way each connected is treated  and a single point to point
network. This way you also rule and problems with DR election if using
broadcast (in this setuo you would need to make sure the hub was the DR to
ensure that the routing worked properly).

For some more info and a some sample configs have a look at the following link:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/22.html

Rich

On Jan 29,  1:58am, Bill Moran wrote:
> Subject: RE: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...
> I too discovered this last night. I believe that part of the problem may be
> in the absence of frame map statements, more specifically the lack of the
> broadcast parameter, the LSAs are not getting propagated to the neighbors.
> Any thoughts to this theory?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Nigel Taylor
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 11:21 AM
> To: CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
> Cc: Bryant Andrews
> Subject: Frame Relay - Lessons Learned...
>
>
> Well,   =20
> I hope buy now everyone has opened all their gifts and already =
> know what it is they want for christmas next year.
> In joy of the spirit I decided to work on some areas which I believe as =
> mentioned by numerous member on list is of crucial importance in CCIE =
> lab.  In this spirit I've learned another lesson, which goes as =
> follows...
>
> In this lab scenario the goal was to connect 3 routers R1, R2, and R3 in =
> the typical HUB and Spoke topology.  In a partial=20
> mesh all routers should be able to ping each other with out the use of =
> the "frame-relay map" command with only sub-interfaces allowed in the =
> HUB device.
>
> Now, this is reasonably easy as this leaves 2 options to complete the =
> required task. Configurations as follows=20
> could get this done. The use of  various sub-interfaces with the =
> "frame-relay interface-dlci" command depending=20
> on other lab specific requirements(i.e multiple nets/subnets) or the use =
> of a multi-point sub-interface to support both=20
> spoke(s) over one network address assignment.  =20
>
> I used 2 sub- interfaces to specify 2 networks.  What I observed was, =
> although I had a neighbor adjacency between
>  both spokes and the HUB(R1), the spokes was not learning the other =
> network through OSPF.  I could ping the=20
> HUB(R1) from both spokes, but could not ping through to R3(spoke) and =
> vise-versa.  I know.. no ospf what do you expect..! =20
> Another observation was from the Spoke devices R2 and R3 the HUB(R1) =
> showed up as a BDR in full state.=20
>  As well from the HUB the both spokes(R2,R3) showed up as adjacent =
> neighbors in FULL state. =20
>
> Closer investigation showed that from the HUB both sub-interfaces were =
> using ospf network type point-to -point, however=20
> from the  spokes(R2,R3) being physical interfaces and using the default =
> of broadcast.  Well, this really doesn't stand
>  as both of these network types use a 10 sec Hello timer and a 40 sec =
> Dead timer.. right!
>
> Wrong, apparently although the ospf network types hello/dead values =
> matched this did not allow ospf to propagate the other networks to the =
> spokes.  What solved this was either changing the spokes ospf network =
> type to p-t-p as to match the HUB, or=20
> changing the HUB links to broadcast.  When this was done the spokes both =
> now knew of the other net work. =20
>
> In doing some quick research Calsow's book makes mention of setting all =
> interfaces to point-to-multipoint.  He also=20
> mentions the problems faced with ospf network type mis-matches.  If one =
> is not careful this could present a few problems and being not overly =
> confident in my frame-relay skill-set would likely look to something in =
> that part of the config for the answer to
> my problem
>
> Thoughts anyone...or is this common knowledge?
>
> Nigel.
>
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Re: KnowledgeNet Classes

2001-01-29 Thread Dost

I am taking BCRAN thru them but I do not have any
notes.
Inamul

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Re: IS IS

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Gallagher

As far as understand it has not been removed from the lab. ISIS for CLNS has
been removed, but there is still the possibility of "Integrated ISIS - for IP"
questions being asked.

Rich

On Jan 29,  9:52am, Vadim Tulinov wrote:
> Subject: Re: IS IS
> Hello,
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html
>
> Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed
>from the lab exam content:
> LAT
> DECnet
> Apollo
> Banyan VINES
> ISO CLNS
> XNS
> ATM LANE
> X.25
>
>Effective February 1, 2001, the following topic will
be
>removed from the lab exam content:
> Appletalk
>
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1912.htm#xtocid27250
>
> As far as, I understand, this is meaning IS-IS was removed from lab.
>
>
> Groupstudy wrote:
>
> > Certainly is.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Dave E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:04 PM
> > Subject: IS IS
> >
> > > Is IS-IS on the R/S lab exam?  Thanks.
> > >
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RE: SH RUN reveals encrypted password

2001-01-29 Thread Larry Ogun-Banjo

try the link below. I stumbled on it by mistake and haven't tried it myself.
Also have a look at the config viewer

http://solarwinds.net/Tools/Cisco_Networking/Password_Decryptor/index.htm





adam lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/29/2001 05:05:38 AM

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Subject:  RE: SH RUN reveals encrypted password



How readily available are these decryptors?  I heard of them but I do not
know anyone with one.

> > ""Hans Stout"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hello colleagues,
> > >
> > > do you know if there is a way to make the line 'enable secret 5
> > > $1$vwIl$YEZxTVGPapUUVCD.c54Ya' invisible when doing a 'sh run' in user
> > mode
> > > ? The problem is that I want to allow RO access and also allow to
execute
> > > the 'sh run' command, but that with a password decryptor, one could
eaily
> > > decrypt the enable password.
> > > Thanks for your help in advance.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hans
> > >
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Cat 6K error: "Module failed to restart "

2001-01-29 Thread Shahir Boshra

On installing new (out of the box) WS-X6224-100FX-MT, 2 out of 3 modules
gave me an error message of "Module failed to restart"
when performing show module x, i receive:
line power Failed

Did anyone face a problem like that and could find a solution other than
replacing the modules?

Thanks
Shahir


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PASSED BSCN and BCRAN with 931 and 851

2001-01-29 Thread CCNA

Hi PASSED BSCN and BCRAN with 931 and 851.

Read OSPF, EIGRP and BGP very well about 60% of the exam is from these
subjects. Also read DDR, modem config and x25, FR very well.

I just used Cisco press books and their web site.

Tarry.

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NAT or ACL??

2001-01-29 Thread David Richard

Hi All,

Any body knows whats the best way to protect Internal network from Internet
??

I found many different answers out of them,Finallyy I have to choose b/w
two..

NAT  or Acces-Lists??

ANyh help would be appreciated.

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Re: Reverse Telnet to reset modem

2001-01-29 Thread AABAN34


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/dial_c/

dcrtelnt.htm

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RE: NAT or ACL??

2001-01-29 Thread Albert Lu

Hi David,

My opinion is that NAT's main purpose is not really for security, but for
multiplexing multiple host behind one IP address. The security of NAT is
from external hosts not being able to access hosts behind the NAT, because
the external host only see only one host (the NAT).

NAT is a good solution for smaller networks, but when the number of hosts
behind the NAT start increasing, the NAT will start to become more of a
bottleneck. I believe the bottleneck is from the CRC checksum recalculations
when the IP packets have to be modified, and this CRC checksum may be
computationally expensive.

>From my knowledge, NAT will not let any external hosts access behind the NAT
unless the internal hosts intialised the communication. I also heard that
you could manually add an entry to the NAT, so that external hosts can
access internal hosts, without the internal hosts making first contact.

ACL is designed to secure routers, and have a richer feature set than NAT.
It allows different policies and a mixture of them. It allows you to
permit/deny specified hosts/networks with various conditions. ACL also
doesn't modify the IP packets like NAT does, so it should be much faster.


Regards,

Albert



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Subject: NAT or ACL??


Hi All,

Any body knows whats the best way to protect Internal network from Internet
??

I found many different answers out of them,Finallyy I have to choose b/w
two..

NAT  or Acces-Lists??

ANyh help would be appreciated.

DR.


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RE: HP openview reporting

2001-01-29 Thread Piatnitchi Cristian

Configure your devices to send SNMP traps to the management workstation
and you will get more than interface up/down. It depends on the settings for

snmp traps.

HTH
Cristian

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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HP openview reporting


I once worked in a NOC where the routers report the state of their
interfaces to
the monitoring system (HP Openview) ie when an interface goes down, an alarm
is
seen by the administrator. I am interested to find information/sample
configuration that could assist me in configuring my routers to do the same.
At
present, all I get is node up/down statements provided when HPOv polls the
router. Thanx


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RE: strange problem

2001-01-29 Thread Mustafa Kemal Furat

I faced this problem several times...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/21.html


---
IP Classless
Where the ip classless configuration command falls within the routing and
forwarding processes is often confusing. In reality, IP classless only
effects the operation of the forwarding processes in IOS; it doesn't effect
the way the routing table is built. If IP classless isn't configured (using
the no ip classless command), the router won't forward packets to supernets.
As an example, let's again place three routes in the routing table and route
packets through the router.

router#show ip route



 172.30.0.0/16 is variably  subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
D172.30.32.0/20 [90/4879540] via  10.1.1.2
D   172.30.32.0/24  [90/25789217] via 10.1.1.1
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 10.1.1.3 
Remembering that the 172.30.32.0/24 network includes the addresses
172.30.32.0 through 172.30.32.255, and the 172.30.32.0/20 network includes
the addresses 172.30.32.0 through 172.30.47.255, we can then try switching
three packets through this routing table and see what the results are.

A packet destined to 172.30.32.1 is forwarded to 10.1.1.1, since this is the
longest prefix match.

A packet destined to 172.30.33.1 is forwarded to 10.1.1.2, since this is the
longest prefix match.

A packet destined to 192.168.10.1 is forwarded to 10.1.1.3; since this
network doesn't exist in the routing table, this packet is forwarded to the
default route.

A packet destined to 172.30.254.1 is dropped. 
The surprising answer out of these four is the last packet, which is
dropped. It's dropped because its destination, 172.30.254.1, is within a
known major network, 172.30.0.0/16, but the router doesn't know about this
particular subnet within that major network. 

This is the essence of classful routing: If one part of a major network is
known, but the subnet toward which the packet is destined within that major
network is unknown, the packet is dropped. 


--- 

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Subject: strange problem 


hi I got a customer who intially has a defautl route
that does not work . Interesting is that when I take
out the statement and put in again it works perfect.

I am puzzled about such problem

ip classless is all the while in 

customer is running 25xx series routers

any form of input will be greatly appreciated

regards,

suaveguru

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Cisco View Problem

2001-01-29 Thread Makis Metridis

Hi

I am having  problem with Cisco View (Ver 5.1 ) when i try to view a device 
e.g. Cisco2610 , Cisco2522 . I get the error message "Failed to refresh 
chassis.Refer to error log for details" .Tha backplane is shown but it 
doesnt refresh . The log file contains "ERROR Ct: Failed to refresh chassis 
view due to:
No such instance error on ifOperStatus.13. "
I have already downloaded  and update  the packages for Cisco View for the 
devices above .

Any suggestions ??

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Re: CCSI question

2001-01-29 Thread Stephen Skinner


the only test you need to get a high score on is the CCNA (892)...when you 
go for your CCSI lab test that is the material you will be tested on..

all other courses only require a pass mark on the exam to enable you to 
teach You have to pass both the exam and LAB to teach CCIE`s

BTW the CCSI lab is hard ...first day configuring routers and switches 
...second day giving presentations..they do pick on you if your 
presenting is not as good as your configuring...and they constantly ask you 
questions...just like CCIE lab

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Re: High CPU Utilisation

2001-01-29 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)

Hello to all.
As a follow-up, we found out the cause of this sudden spike in IP traffic
from the intranet hitting the gateway router and causing a CPU utilisation
spike which lasts untill all of this particular traffic is sent.
Basically it is a database update from a UNIX box that runs via remote SSH,
but whenever it hits the router, all other processes / traffic are
"suspended" and this SSH traffic gets 100% of the CPU's attention. No, we're
not running any QoS features. This is still being looked into by TAC and
hopefully I'll hear from the Cisco engineer soon. Meanwhile, if anyone has
more info on the impact of SSH traffic on Cisco routers let me know. BTW,
the IOS version is 11.2(12) and the database file size varies from 250 to
700 MB.

Thanks again.
Elmer Deloso

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RE: SH RUN reveals encrypted password

2001-01-29 Thread RCL

The link will for level 7 passwords, not level 5.


--- Larry Ogun-Banjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> try the link below. I stumbled on it by mistake and
> haven't tried it myself.
> Also have a look at the config viewer
> 
>
http://solarwinds.net/Tools/Cisco_Networking/Password_Decryptor/index.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> adam lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/29/2001
> 05:05:38 AM
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> Subject:  RE: SH RUN reveals encrypted password
> 
> 
> 
> How readily available are these decryptors?  I heard
> of them but I do not
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> > > > $1$vwIl$YEZxTVGPapUUVCD.c54Ya' invisible when
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> > > mode
> > > > ? The problem is that I want to allow RO
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CCNP PDF FIles

2001-01-29 Thread Tariq

Hello Everybody.

I am watching this news group from last 3/4 weeks.
Most of the people here are talking about CCNA PDF Files.
It seems that CCNA Guys are trying to help each other and they are sharing
their PDF files (E-Books).

Now I want to ask from everybody that if anybody have CCNP PDF Files than we
can start sharing of our resources and exam experience. I am interested in
Routing PDF File. If you have please forward it to me

Thanks

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OSPF Wildcard mask

2001-01-29 Thread David Richard

If I want to configure OSPF for my serial interface having Ip-address of 

183.23.45.46 255.255.255.224

Am I correct to choose its wild card mask as  0.0.0.31???



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Re: OSPF Wildcard mask

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Gallagher

100%

On Jan 29,  2:19pm, David Richard wrote:
> Subject: OSPF Wildcard mask
> If I want to configure OSPF for my serial interface having Ip-address of
>
> 183.23.45.46 255.255.255.224
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> Am I correct to choose its wild card mask as  0.0.0.31???
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Thanx, passed the written

2001-01-29 Thread Sheahan, Ryan

Hey group,

Just wanted to drop a quick thank you for all your help over the passed
several months.  I have gone from a CCNA all the way to the CCIE written.
It's been quite a journey, and the fun has just begun.  

All the comments seen before in regards to the test are very accurate.  It's
actually more straightforward than I anticipated.  Keep your focus, believe
in yourself, and know you can accomplish anything you want to.  There is no
mystery to the CCIE, it takes dedication, determination, ambition, and a
whole lot of hard work, (maybe a little bit of luck :))!!

Thanks again,

Ryan Sheahan

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Re: Docs CD - where is it?

2001-01-29 Thread RCL

Try here:

==
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/
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Re: Gateway of last resort ?

2001-01-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hi, Howard.
>
>I just want to know what you mean by "subscribers only".
>Does that mean you're running your own mailing list or something like
>that? It seems to me it's just portion of what you've published on
>that list before. Or from CertificationZone, maybe.
>
>Well, I'm just curious about what missing "A" will be like.
>Thanks
>
>Regards,
Jaeheon

  What I meant to say is that the full document is on 
CertificationZone, but, as an older White Paper, is in the 
subscriber-only area.  Part A dealt with non-default route selection.

>
>
>On 28 Jan 2001 20:57:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Howard C. Berkowitz")
>wrote:
>
>>subscribers only), Routing Principles and IOS Implementation
>>Considerations:
>>
>>B. Default Whatevers
>>You will run across several terms that are often, and incorrectly,
>>considered synonymous: default routes, default gateways (default
>>routers), default networks, and gateways of last resort. These terms
>>refer to slightly different mechanisms, all of which are useful. This
>>section explains what each mechanism does.
>>
>>1. Default Route
>>
>>By convention, the address 0.0.0.0/0 is the default route, the least
>>specific possible route. Cisco sometimes uses the term pseudonetwork
>>to refer to 0.0.0.0/0. It is the route that you go to when you don't
>>have anyplace else to go. When it came time to pick softball teams in
>>my high school physical education classes, I was the default route.
>>
>>As opposed to being something to put in right field and forget,
>>default routes are quite useful in networking. They can be declared
>>with static routes, or they can be learned from dynamic routing
>>protocols. To create a static route defining the local default, code:
>>
>>  ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 {next hop IP | outgoing interface}
>>
>>Created as a static route with an administrative distance less than
>>dynamic routing, a default route in the next-hop-ip format will be
>>used for the local router box, but not advertised unless it is
>>explicitly redistributed (or you use the outgoing interface form of
>>the static route command).
>>Statically declared default routes of the interface-name format will
>>be advertised as if they were directly connected.
>>
>>Local configuration is not the only way your router can learn the
>>0.0.0.0/0 default route. It can be learned from dynamic routing
>>protocols such as OSPF and RIP. In the more recent IOS releases, you
>>can originate default from any of these routing processes with the
>>default-information-originate command. When you do this, the process
>>will advertise default to other routers, although it might use,
>>itself, the static route.
>>default-information-originate has an optional parameter, the always
>>keyword. If you don't use always, the router will advertise default
>>only if it itself has an active default route.
>>
>>With always, the router will always advertise default, and will have
>>the behavior that it will blackhole routes to unknown destinations if
>>there is no default. A typical application for always would be where
>>you have a single ISP link to which you default, so you might as well
>>blackhole if you can't get to it.
>>
>>2. Default Gateway
>>
>>The default gateway is specifically intended for the situation when
>>no IP routing is enabled. It has the specific next hop address of the
>>gateway router.
>>
>>You would use this on a switch, or a router box that is only doing
>>bridging, so the box can reach network management servers not on the
>>same subnet. Another application for the default gateway comes during
>>booting from ROM, to find the TFTP server.
>>
>>In the IOS, you configure an IP default gateway with the command:
>>
>>ip default-gateway gateway-address
>>
>>where gateway-address is the address of a router interface on a
>>subnet to which your router is physically connected.
>>
>>3. Default Network
>>
>>The default network, used by IGRP and EIGRP, has only a prefix -- a
>>network or subnet -- so unless internal assumptions are made, there's
>>no way to know the specific next hop address.
>  >
>>Always remember the KISS (Keep it simple, stupid) rule. Once you
>>understand what command is intended to do something, it isn't always
>>useful to keep looking for commands that might do the same thing. The
>>major reason to look for obscure command interpretations is that they
>>may be the cause of problems you are troubleshooting.
>>
>>In the real world of network design, the KISS rule is critical. On
>>the CCIE test, however, be prepared to be faced with scenarios that
>>violate this rule. One of the drivers of CCIE scenario writers seems
>>to be that you are very familiar with obscure parts of the IOS
>>command language. In addition, some CCIE lab scenarios may seem quite
>>contrived, due to the relatively small number of available routers.
>>
>>For those of you who have taken ACRC, you have had an experience that
>>will give you perspective on odd scenarios you may see. ACRC's
>>redistribution and 

Urgent .... ISDN Help

2001-01-29 Thread Magdy H. Ibrahim

Dear all,
Please Help me..
I have a big problem related with ISDN.
I have 2600 router with 8 bri ports, right, and I want to install two bri
ports with to PC dialup connection ove ISDN ofcourse. the first customer is
already connected.
I tried to connect the second customer by using the same configuration of
the first one but I failed to establish the connection.
the configuration as the following:
the first one conf. is:

interface BRI1/0
 description connected to Dial-inPCs(ISDN)
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 ip policy route-map r2000
 dialer rotary-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer1
 description connected to Dial-inPCs(ISDN)
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip split-horizon
 ip policy route-map r2000
 keepalive 3600
 dialer in-band
 dialer load-threshold 1 either
 dialer-group 1
 peer default ip address pool ISDNUSERS
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap pap callin
 ppp multilink
!
ip local pool ISDNUSERS 212.3.61.104
ip default-gateway 212.3.61.100
!

I added the following conf for the second bri1/1
But it didnot work:

interface BRI1/1
 description connected to Dial-inPCs(ISDN)
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 ip policy route-map r2000
 dialer rotary-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer2
 description connected to Dial-inPCs(ISDN)
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip split-horizon
 ip policy route-map r2000
 keepalive 3600
 dialer in-band
 dialer load-threshold 1 either
 dialer-group 1
 peer default ip address pool ISDNUSERS2
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap pap callin
 ppp multilink
!
ip local pool ISDNUSERS2 212.3.61.108
ip default-gateway 212.3.61.100

Can any one have any Idea to fix this problem ???


Regards,

Magdy


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Re: OSPF Wildcard mask

2001-01-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

You can doublecheck your mask assignment.  The sum of the subnet mask 
octet and the correct wildcard mask should be decimal 255.

>100%
>
>On Jan 29,  2:19pm, David Richard wrote:
>>  Subject: OSPF Wildcard mask
>>  If I want to configure OSPF for my serial interface having Ip-address of
>>
>>  183.23.45.46 255.255.255.224
>>
>>  Am I correct to choose its wild card mask as  0.0.0.31???
>>
>>
>>
>>  DR.
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Re: Thanx, passed the written

2001-01-29 Thread netlinesys

Ryan,

Well done .. and good luch with your LAB test .

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> It's been quite a journey, and the fun has just begun.
>
> All the comments seen before in regards to the test are very accurate.
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> actually more straightforward than I anticipated.  Keep your focus,
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Voice

2001-01-29 Thread Gils

Hi all,

   I am looking for in depth information of the MGCP protocol any help will
be appreciated.

  Thank you in advance

  Gil 

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RE: WAN switching Exam

2001-01-29 Thread mjans001


http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/cramsession/cisco/ccna_ws/

sorry.

Cheers
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Onderwerp: RE: WAN switching Exam


Try the Q&A  forum here.

Cheers.

Martijn

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Onderwerp: WAN switching Exam


Are there any good books for the CCNA Wan switching exam? Is it a useful
cert in any case--ie are companies looking for it at all or even know it
exists? The exam outline looked pretty much like CCNA with some of the stuff
from CCNP thrown in but not much. Has anyone actually taken the test?

thanks

stu

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Re: OSPF Wildcard mask

2001-01-29 Thread Joe Wong

But I wonder for serial, why don't use address

183.23.45.46 255.255.255.252 and wild card mask as 0.0.0.3 to save some
address space.

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>
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> > If I want to configure OSPF for my serial interface having Ip-address of
> >
> > 183.23.45.46 255.255.255.224
> >
> > Am I correct to choose its wild card mask as  0.0.0.31???
> >
> >
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Re: Voice

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Gallagher

The RFC should provide you will all the detail you need.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2705.html

Rich

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>
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>
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Re: Dir Command

2001-01-29 Thread Bruce Seelinger

The "dir" command IS a valid Cisco IOS command and was introduced in version
11.0.  See
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/fun_r
/frprt2/frifs.htm#xtocid253573

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Re: CCSI question

2001-01-29 Thread Jedi

Anyone have info or the URL on the CCSI?
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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: CCSI question


>
> the only test you need to get a high score on is the CCNA (892)...when you
> go for your CCSI lab test that is the material you will be tested on..
>
> all other courses only require a pass mark on the exam to enable you to
> teach You have to pass both the exam and LAB to teach CCIE`s
>
> BTW the CCSI lab is hard ...first day configuring routers and switches
> ...second day giving presentations..they do pick on you if your
> presenting is not as good as your configuring...and they constantly ask
you
> questions...just like CCIE lab
>
> >From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CCSI question
> >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:54:09 -0500
> >
> >Just out of curiosity...is there anywhere I could look up whether or not
my
> >scores that I've achieved on the Cisco tests are adequate for the CCSI
> >certification?  Thanks in advance.
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Re: Waants to Sell CCPREP.com password

2001-01-29 Thread Bruce Seelinger

Brace yourself...

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>one...
>
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>
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>CCNA/CCNP fast tracks
>u have opportunity to get this site for two months more becauuse i
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RE: Early Token release

2001-01-29 Thread Jim Dixon

I thought that Early Token Release was when the Token was released prior to
acknoledgement being received?


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Subject: Re: Early Token release


Early Token Release will release the token when the last bit of the frame
has been sent
out:



Faisal Athar wrote:

> Hi,
> Please solve my confusion for this as I am getting different answers from
> different resources..
>
> Early token release
>
> (1) allows one token and more than one frames.
> (2) Allows more than one token and more than one frames.
> (3)allows more than two tokens and one data frame.
>
> Thanks  a lot in advance...
>
> Faisal.
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Re: Early Token release

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Gallagher

>From CCO:

"Early token release is a method whereby the Token Ring interfaces can release
the token back onto the ring immediately after transmitting, rather than
waiting for the frame to return"

Therefore you do not need to wait for the frame to return to see if the frame
has been copied or not (frame status field) and then removed from the ring.

On Jan 29,  4:17pm, Jim Dixon wrote:
> Subject: RE: Early Token release
> I thought that Early Token Release was when the Token was released prior to
> acknoledgement being received?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Casassa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Early Token release
>
>
> Early Token Release will release the token when the last bit of the frame
> has been sent
> out:
>
>
>
> Faisal Athar wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Please solve my confusion for this as I am getting different answers from
> > different resources..
> >
> > Early token release
> >
> > (1) allows one token and more than one frames.
> > (2) Allows more than one token and more than one frames.
> > (3)allows more than two tokens and one data frame.
> >
> > Thanks  a lot in advance...
> >
> > Faisal.
> >
> > 
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Re: Voice

2001-01-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hi all,
>
>I am looking for in depth information of the MGCP protocol any help will
>be appreciated.
>
>   Thank you in advance
>
>   Gil
>
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/megaco-charter.html

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CCSI info

2001-01-29 Thread Kathy Mihalisko

Briefly:

CCSI is, to the best of my knowledge, unique in that it is the only Cisco
cert. that you, as the holder, do not actually "own"--it is held by the
organization (normally a Cisco training partner) that you work for. If you
transfer to another job, your new employer has to pay a fee to Cisco to
transfer your CCSI #. I don't know if it's even possible to obtain CCSI
without a sponsoring organization behind you.

You certify on ICND only--so you need to know that course content like the
back of your hand. If you want to teach other Cisco courses such as BSCN you
need to pass the relevant exam at the Instructor's higher score level. The
CCSI score thresholds are on the Cisco website but I believe it requires a
CCO login to view.

Exam consists of one-day taped ICND course delivery + one day lab on a rack
of 2500s and 1900s.

Kathy "Katyusha" M.

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Subject: Re: CCSI question


Anyone have info or the URL on the CCSI?
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: CCSI question


>
> the only test you need to get a high score on is the CCNA (892)...when you
> go for your CCSI lab test that is the material you will be tested on..
>
> all other courses only require a pass mark on the exam to enable you to
> teach You have to pass both the exam and LAB to teach CCIE`s
>
> BTW the CCSI lab is hard ...first day configuring routers and switches
> ...second day giving presentations..they do pick on you if your
> presenting is not as good as your configuring...and they constantly ask
you
> questions...just like CCIE lab
>
> >From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CCSI question
> >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:54:09 -0500
> >
> >Just out of curiosity...is there anywhere I could look up whether or not
my
> >scores that I've achieved on the Cisco tests are adequate for the CCSI
> >certification?  Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Caller ID

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

Dear Group,

I've done a lot of searching on CCO on how to get CallerID into a tacacs+
server.

I find a lot about ISDN and Voice but nothing on straight PPP.

Can anyone shed some light on whether it is possible and if it is where is a
config doc?

tia

Kevin Wigle

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Tacacs+/Radius

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

and further on things tacacs..

Our lab tech is really an anti-NT type of guy.  He doesn't want any
production servers using NT.

And he also would prefer Radius over Tacacs+.  Does anyone have a source of
freeware Radius for unix?  His preferred platform is Solaris.

again, tia

Kevin Wigle

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dual home with 3640?

2001-01-29 Thread Network Guy

Hi,

I was wondering if a 3640 with 128MB can handle dual T1's with full BGP
routes... anyone have any experience with this?  Are there any concerns
I should be aware of?  

thanks!

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BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks

2001-01-29 Thread Ikpasa, Kerry

Guys, 
  I would be taking the Remote Access network exam in a few weeks time, I
would be grateful if you can reconmmend good books for this exam

Cheers

Kerry 
Network Engineer
 

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Re: Pls help: ATM study materials

2001-01-29 Thread Katson PN Yeung

For me, I would recommend the book "Cisco ATM solution"
ISBN:1-57870-213-5


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>
> Thanks so much!!
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Re: books on booting

2001-01-29 Thread Mask Of Zorro

A bit of trivia for you:

In the film 2001, the computer was named HAL.

Take IBM, move all letters backward one letter, and you get HAL. That's 
where the name came from.

Windows NT gets its name from VMS. Move each letter of VMS forward one, and 
you get WNT. It was left to the marketing folks to determine what it stood 
for... There were many variations, these are the most popular:

New Technology (they originally went with, before dropping it)
Not There (many UNIX and Netware folks used this initially)
Nice Try (ditto above)

Z


>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: books on booting
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:18:47 -0500
>
> >I would like opinions of others in the group on a book that really digs 
>into
> >the boot sequences, flash architechture for the different models, 
>bootstrap
> >setup, secondary bootstrap images, bootloader, how the different models 
>load
> >IOS, all that kind of stuff.
>
>Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture. Cisco Press, ISBN 1-57870-181-3
>
> >My friend has found a book that sounds pretty good called: Cisco Router
> >Performance Field Guide from McGraw-Hill - has anyone read this book and 
>if
> >you have please comment. I just want to learn all the ways to setup IOS 
>load
> >redundancy, troubleshooting boot errors, stuff like that.
> >
> >Side note: has anyone found wierd non-cisco like commands in certain 
>modes?
> >Last night we were playing around and found in one mode the router 
>responded
> >to   dir -and it showed us the flash directory files.
>
>There's IOS--the true real time operating system-- and what Cisco
>marketing calls IOS (i.e., everything Cisco has). You will find some
>non-IOS commands that are compatibility modes to acquired product
>lines.
>
>Incidentally, IOS and most commercial vendor router operating systems
>are not really UNIX derivatives.  They are purpose-built real time
>operating systems.  Any similarity to UNIX comes primarily from the
>fact that most computer scientists have worked with UNIX, where a lot
>of OS concepts were worked out.
>
>I suppose it depends how far you stretch the definition of
>UNIX-related. Is a MACH-based kernel UNIX derived? How about
>operating systems with pthreads? Since UNIX, or at least its name,
>derived from MULTICS, is everything MULTICS derived?  Windows NT
>certainly has a lot of VMS ancestry.
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RE: redundant NICs

2001-01-29 Thread Bob Vance

>Why do they believe that a redundant NIC will provide them any
>redundancy?
>to Quote Howard. "what problem are they trying to solve" with this
>scenario.

Well, maybe I'm missing something.>)

It's actually *my* idea.

They already are spending beaucoups ducats for a redundant switch mesh
and have several NT servers.
I say,
"Look. If a switch goes down, then *all* the NT servers
 connected to it will lose network connectivity.  A cheap
 answer to that would be to add an Intel NIC to each NT server
 and connect it to a *different* switch.  The ALB/failover
 stuff will keep connectivity to those servers.
"
What am I missing?
Of course, it the server goes down ...

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-Original Message-
From: Bob Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:50 PM
To: CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: redundant NICs


What I really want is one NIC, the "active" one, connected to Switch-A.
The other NIC, "standby", is hooked to switch-B.
If Switch-A fails (or the NIC fails), the software on the NT server
notices that there is a loss of connectivity on this NIC.  Then the
"standby" NIC takes over with the same IP (doing a Gratuitous ARP to
inform local-net devices of the change) and now traffic is going thru
Switch-B
Client PCs will never know (we'll have redundant switches and paths
in the core).  If an edge switch is lost, then those PCs will lose
connectivity, of course, unless manual patching is done.


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-Original Message-
From: Windows NT/2000 Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ali
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: redundant NICs


They way you do it is you install two Intel nics and there is a software
that's loaded into your tray by your clock. u go into the Intel software
and
you can group those two or more nics to together. they will operate on
the
same ip and be redundant and give you more throughput.

-Original Message-
From: Windows NT/2000 Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Vance
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: redundant NICs


Thanks, Denis.
Someone else (off the list) mentioned "Intel", as well.
So, is the standby/failover simply built into the driver or is there
some kind of higher-level code that must also be installed?
Does Intel's site give good enough info on this product?

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-Original Message-
From: Denis A. Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: redundant NICs


Intel makes a product like this.  We use several of them on our networks
and
they work great.  It's called Intel PRO 100+ Dual Port Server NIC.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin - A+ / MCP / I-Net+ / Network+
Network Administrator, CAE INC.
810-231-9546, ext. 229


-Original Message-
From: Windows NT/2000 Discussion List
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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: redundant NICs


Does NT (4 or 2k) support, or is there some product support for, having
2 NICs in a failover, high-availability mode on one box.
E.g., for HP-UX Unix, HP has a product called MC/ServiceGuard which
includes this feature (among many others).  IP address is on one NIC
while the other NIC is in "standby" mode.  If network connectivity is
lost on primary NIC (either card failure or network/switch problem),
the IP address moves to the other NIC.  A Gratuituos ARP is done so
that everyone that has the old ARP entry will clear it, and current
connections aren't even lost.  Of course, the paths from the NICs into
the network must be thru different switches to avoid single point of
failure loss at a switch.


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No Subject

2001-01-29 Thread Mongol Blizzard

Ok now i am a CCNP and also a CCDA.
The CIT exam was a good one. it did have some thought provoking/misleading 
questions.
In my opinion one should be fine with the Ciscopress certification book by 
Amir Rnajbar but would do well to understand concepts from The CIT book by 
Laura Chapell.
Yes ISDN plays an important role in the exam.

Now for the CCDA. I never read the pdf file of the book given by a friend. I 
was just too concerned about getting the CCNP.
I planned to take the test more as a challenge since i had already studied 
the underlying technologies. What i did read were ...the diff steps in 
creating a prototype/pilot and diff parts of the design document. Thats all.
The test is a joke. The Case studies were so boring and contained material 
that nearly turned it idiotic.
Just concentrate on the basics and answer what they ask you. I Repeat... 
answer what they want to know.

Now two things dog me
1. Do i concentrate on CID?
2. How do I start my CCIE written prep?

Anyone with sincere suggestions pls suggest.

regards
mongol


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Re: dual home with 3640?

2001-01-29 Thread John Neiberger

We have a 3640 with 128MB that is multihomed to Sprint and Verio, but we are
taking customer routes only, which amounts to about 46,000 routes.  The 3640
hardly even knows that it's turned on most of the time.  The current
5-minute average cpu usage is 5%, which is a little higher than normal.  As
far as memory goes, we have close to 90MB free.  Assuming that the full
internet routing table is about 105,000 routes now, we have almost 25% of
that. Approximately 8 MB of DRAM is being used for the BGP table.

So, you're probably okay taking full routes from two providers on a 3640
with 128MB DRAM.  But, do you really *need* full routes from both?   Could
you get by with customer routes, or even default routes?

In our situation, there just was no need to take full routes from both
providers.  We simply take customer routes from both and then I have a
default route pointing to the better ISP to handle unknown routes.

HTH,
John

>  Hi,
>  
>  I was wondering if a 3640 with 128MB can handle dual T1's with full BGP
>  routes... anyone have any experience with this?  Are there any concerns
>  I should be aware of?  
>  
>  thanks!
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Re: IP accounting

2001-01-29 Thread Bulent Sahin

When you configure IP accounting on an interface,  you can get information
about how many bytes of data is coming from a mail server or a file server.
With a small program you can get this information periodically from the
router and then you can process this data according to your needs. Allright
this is what we have. I'm looking for a better software which has some
additional features and a good GUI .(not Cisco Secure ACS )
Even this better software has to get data from the router and  the router
has to generate this data. This means "slow down"; No difference.

Bulent Sahin

- Özgün Ýleti -
Kimden: "Nick Payton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kime: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Cisco@Groupstudy. Com'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gönderme tarihi: 29 Ocak 2001 Pazartesi 07:52
Konu: RE: IP accounting


> I agree with that statement in that sense of accounting.  I was under the
> impression he was looking for traffic accounting either out of curiousity,
> troubleshooting, or for SLA issues.  Good point though - so Elmer what
type
> of "accounting" are you reffering to ?
>
> Nick Payton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:01 PM
> To: Nick Payton; suaveguru; 'Cisco@Groupstudy. Com'
> Subject: Re: IP accounting
>
>
> A poster pointed the list to NTTacPlus just a few weeks ago.
>
> It all depends on what is meant by "ip accounting".  Tacacs+ and Radius
are
> used within the aaa implementation.  Authentication Authorization
Accounting
>
> I am experimenting with the above program now and I can:
>
> see when you logged in/off
> see if you tried to start an exec
> see what commands you gave while in exec
> if dialin - how many bytes were transferred
>
> and I'm just getting started there is lots more..
>
> Unfortunately as far as I can tell - the data is raw.  i.e. you'll have to
> suck it into a spreadsheet and massage it as you will.
>
> However, it can also log to an obdc/sql database - then you could do
> queries.
>
> I think the Cisco tacacs server has canned reports but I have not looked
at
> it yet.
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Payton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "suaveguru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Cisco@Groupstudy. Com'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, 29 January, 2001 00:15
> Subject: RE: IP accounting
>
>
> > TACACS or Radius ?  I am under the belief that those are both
> authentication
> > tools, not accounting tools.  Try using Netflow if your interested in
> > accounting - IP accounting would be difficult to use for accounting
> > purposes, but is usefull for getting a quick synopsis of the traffic
> coming
> > across a particular interface.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > suaveguru
> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:49 PM
> > To: Bulent Sahin; ; Tony van Ree
> > Subject: Re: IP accounting
> >
> >
> > try tacacas or radius servers they are both reputable
> > products in the market
> > --- Bulent Sahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Where can I find such tools?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Bulent Sahin
> > >
> > > - Özgün Ýleti -
> > > Kimden: "Tony van Ree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Kime: "Deloso. Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Gönderme tarihi: 24 Ocak 2001 Çarþamba 00:22
> > > Konu: Re: IP accounting
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > IP accounting will slow down your router.  I would
> > > tend to use it as a
> > > tool for trouble shooting or finding specific stuff
> > > on your network but not
> > > much chop for anything else.  For billing etc there
> > > are better tools
> > > available.
> > > >
> > > > I feel routers should route (and switch too) and
> > > accounting packages
> > > should get the data from the router and account.
> > > >
> > > > Just my feelings.
> > > >
> > > > Teunis,
> > > > Hobart, Tasmania
> > > > Australia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday, January 23, 2001 at 08:45:39 AM,
> > > Deloso. Elmer G (WPNSTA
> > > Yorktown) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello, group.
> > > > > Can someone give me feedback on implementing IP
> > > Accounting on the
> > > gateway
> > > > > router? I'd like to know it's plus / minus
> > > sides, cpu/memory load
> > > issues,
> > > > > etc. CCO doesn't seem to have much info on it.
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Elmer Deloso
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RE: BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks

2001-01-29 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Follow the CiscoKing link below and select Remote Access.

Ole


 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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 NEED A JOB ???
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Importance: High


Guys, 
  I would be taking the Remote Access network exam in a few weeks time, I
would be grateful if you can reconmmend good books for this exam

Cheers

Kerry 
Network Engineer
 

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Cisco VPN 3000 Client follies

2001-01-29 Thread Chris H

Group:

I am in a bind... After an extensive evaluation period of the Cisco 3030 
concentrator, and a beta deployment of the client to a slew of non-technical 
field users, I have found that the client does the following:

1. Causes shutdown problems (caveat documented on Cisco's website as fast 
start feature).
2. Causes system conflicts
3. Is unreliable to deploy widescale, too unpredictable

Here are my questions to anyone willing to help...

1. Has anyone beta tested the 3.0 client?
2. Did it correct any of the aformentioned issues?
3. Has anyone else had similar problems and what work arounds were 
implemented to assist?

I am getting pressure from the business and currently I can't recommend any 
VPN solution that I would feel comfortable deploying... Ayuda Me...

Chris
CCNP/CCDP
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Re: Tacacs+/Radius

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Welch

Cisco does sell a TACACS+ server for solaris.   I agree with your anti-NT
type... if its NT and its in production someone is going to get called
afterhours.

-- Kevin
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Subject: Tacacs+/Radius


> and further on things tacacs..
>
> Our lab tech is really an anti-NT type of guy.  He doesn't want any
> production servers using NT.
>
> And he also would prefer Radius over Tacacs+.  Does anyone have a source
of
> freeware Radius for unix?  His preferred platform is Solaris.
>
> again, tia
>
> Kevin Wigle
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RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

2001-01-29 Thread Robert Padjen

I fail to see how your reply relates to my post, and I
would agree with the generic position that the resume
will not garner the offer - however, I've gotten
offers on resume alone for contracts, and I've
rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because
their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.) These
problems included grammar, spelling, style and
content. The resume sets a tone - a good one raises
the expectations and elevates the canidate. A poor
one, if interviewed, places him/her in a bad position
from the start.


--- Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert...
> I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here.  The
> resume will NEVER... I
> repeat NEVER get you a job ...  Only an
> interview... and the HR
> will go over to put the full package together 
> SO lets get this...  The
> interview and what end of the salary you fall on
>  The CCNA just might
> get the resume from the HR to techies,...  who will
> say... hey we got a CCNP
> here...  bottom line  it can NOT hurt you to put the
> CCNA under the CCNP.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Robert Padjen
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM
> To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on
> resumes)
> 
> 
> I think that having two version of your resume is
> more
> common these days - fancy formatting for print and
> ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three
> pages,
> but the first page is summary and the last page is
> education, certifications and associations. I think
> that the length answer is three or under - if you've
> got more then its either too dated or you've done
> too
> much and aren't parsing out the important stuff.
> 
> When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of
> gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the
> amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to
> the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA
> after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in
> fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the
> folks
> instead of pulling you to the top.
> 
> One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each
> of the last five years should have at least four
> bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text.
> Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a
> little bit for introduction - I personally hate the
> "I
> want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every
> font
> and don't print double sided. Leave room for
> notes!!!
> (Sorry for being a mother hen!)
> 
> For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it
> seems
> like there are two camps - those that put it in for
> HR
> and keyword search and those that don't want to work
> for a company that is too stupid to understand the
> relationship. (The position is too junior if they're
> looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement,
> althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of
> putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two
> lines shorter and he is thankful. ;)
> 
> All the best.
> 
> 
> --- Pradeep Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page
> > resume did not make it for a tech support position
> > and a CCNA with  a one page resume made it.
> >
> > "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-)
> >
> > What is more important than the size of the resume
> > is your ability to stand up and vouch for the
> things
> > that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who
> claimed
> > being trained from Sniffer University and did not
> > know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when
> a
> > TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a
> > client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz
> he
> > was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for
> > being trained are sometimes more productive than a
> > self-centered techies.
> >
> > So, just be yourself( irrespective of length)
> >
> > -PG
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500
> > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on
> > resumes)
> >
> >
> > I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try
> to
> > keep at 3 pages, though
> > as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5...
> >
> > Brant I. Stevens
> > Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> > Thrupoint, Inc.
> > 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> > New York, NY. 10017
> > 646-562-6540
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Tariq Bin Azad
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM
> > To: 'Andy'
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on
> > resumes)
> >
> >
> > Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my
> lucky
> > no...
> >
> > Tariq
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > F

Re: dual home with 3640?

2001-01-29 Thread saden

>From my previous uunet experience a 3640 with 128mg of RAM is capable of
handling full routes from both ISP's.  

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, John Neiberger wrote:

> We have a 3640 with 128MB that is multihomed to Sprint and Verio, but we are
> taking customer routes only, which amounts to about 46,000 routes.  The 3640
> hardly even knows that it's turned on most of the time.  The current
> 5-minute average cpu usage is 5%, which is a little higher than normal.  As
> far as memory goes, we have close to 90MB free.  Assuming that the full
> internet routing table is about 105,000 routes now, we have almost 25% of
> that. Approximately 8 MB of DRAM is being used for the BGP table.
> 
> So, you're probably okay taking full routes from two providers on a 3640
> with 128MB DRAM.  But, do you really *need* full routes from both?   Could
> you get by with customer routes, or even default routes?
> 
> In our situation, there just was no need to take full routes from both
> providers.  We simply take customer routes from both and then I have a
> default route pointing to the better ISP to handle unknown routes.
> 
> HTH,
> John
> 
> >  Hi,
> >  
> >  I was wondering if a 3640 with 128MB can handle dual T1's with full BGP
> >  routes... anyone have any experience with this?  Are there any concerns
> >  I should be aware of?  
> >  
> >  thanks!
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OT: AIX route add

2001-01-29 Thread jon . mccoy

Okay, way off topic, as far as Unix configs might apply to Cisco, but at
least it's about network-layer stuff.

On an AIX box, how can I add static route statements, directing traffic to a
specific interface?  And, once added, can I make them applicable after an
IPL/reboot?

My Problem:  An AIX server is connected to two LANs, with NIC0 connected to
10.1.1.0/24, and NIC1 connected to 192.168.1.0/24.  These LANs are connected
to each other via routing at the core, but a layer 8 protocol demands
"quicker access" by connecting both networks.

I'd prefer not to run a routing protocol that might affect neighboring
routers and create more traffic on the links (and open the whole STP
can-o-worms).  I want traffic destined for 10.1.1.0/24 (or 10.0.0.0/8) to
transit NIC0, and all other traffic (see Howard's email for the proper term)
to exit via NIC1.

One of my colleague, trying very hard to be the Unix gooroo, suggested
configuring routed or gated -- but I suspect he doesn't really know WTF he's
talking about, since further questioning of configs and routing effects
resulted in a blank stare.

-jon-

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Luis M Vizcaino Martinez/Spain/IBM is out of the office until 05/02/2001.

2001-01-29 Thread D18ML004/18/M/IBM



I am out of the office from 29/01/2001 returning 05/02/2001.  I will
respond to your message when I return.



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Re:

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

well, I don't know if I'm sincere.. but I would do the CID.

Not for any great reason, since you're CCNP/CCDA - one more test makes you
CCDP.

That's what I did.  I am now just about ready to do the CCIE written.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Mongol Blizzard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:54 AM


> Ok now i am a CCNP and also a CCDA.
> The CIT exam was a good one. it did have some thought provoking/misleading
> questions.
> In my opinion one should be fine with the Ciscopress certification book by
> Amir Rnajbar but would do well to understand concepts from The CIT book by
> Laura Chapell.
> Yes ISDN plays an important role in the exam.
>
> Now for the CCDA. I never read the pdf file of the book given by a friend.
I
> was just too concerned about getting the CCNP.
> I planned to take the test more as a challenge since i had already studied
> the underlying technologies. What i did read were ...the diff steps in
> creating a prototype/pilot and diff parts of the design document. Thats
all.
> The test is a joke. The Case studies were so boring and contained material
> that nearly turned it idiotic.
> Just concentrate on the basics and answer what they ask you. I Repeat...
> answer what they want to know.
>
> Now two things dog me
> 1. Do i concentrate on CID?
> 2. How do I start my CCIE written prep?
>
> Anyone with sincere suggestions pls suggest.
>
> regards
> mongol
>
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RE: **SLA help

2001-01-29 Thread Maness, Drew

www.sans.org is a good place to start. Do a search on Policy or Acceptable
Use Policies.

Another good place is:
http://www.eff.org/pub/CAF/policies/

This site list some policies from different educational institutions.

Regards,

Drew Maness
Information Security Engineer
Veritect
www.veritect.com

-Original Message-
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: **SLA help


The sort of topics you are looking for are more likely to be under 
corporate security policies, or Acceptable Use Policies, than SLAs. 
SLAs tend to be concerned with how fast/reliably something can be 
done, rather than whether it is permissible or not.


>
>Deepak Sharma wrote:
>
>>  Hello all
>>
>>  Im making a SLA ( Service level agreement ) with my users in my region.
>>  Something along the lines of what type of internet browsing is allowed.
>>  What you are allowed to download and such
>>
>>  and also something on how fast my IT dept. is going to be answering to
>>  user problems and requests.
>>
>>  I recall someone posting a link of a web site where it had some examples
>>  of these type of documents.  Plus any type of other help will be greatly
>>  appreciated.
>>
>>  thanks
>  > Deepak
>>

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Re: books on booting

2001-01-29 Thread Brian Lodwick

Howard,
When I was thinking about which book would be the book I needed I instantly 
thought this book would be good:
Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture. Cisco Press, ISBN 1-57870-181-3

I had seen it at the book store, paged through it a couple of times, too. 
Yesterday (before you sent your reply) I thumbed through it again and I 
didn't find anything on booting, and such as I was looking for. I guess I 
will go and take a closer look today and try to find the section that goes 
into this. I noticed most of the book indicated how the IOS utilizes system 
resources. I might grab a coffee and read the thing at the book store, it's 
only about 200 pages long.

>>>Brian

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>Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: books on booting
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:18:47 -0500
>
> >I would like opinions of others in the group on a book that really digs 
>into
> >the boot sequences, flash architechture for the different models, 
>bootstrap
> >setup, secondary bootstrap images, bootloader, how the different models 
>load
> >IOS, all that kind of stuff.
>
>Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture. Cisco Press, ISBN 1-57870-181-3
>
> >My friend has found a book that sounds pretty good called: Cisco Router
> >Performance Field Guide from McGraw-Hill - has anyone read this book and 
>if
> >you have please comment. I just want to learn all the ways to setup IOS 
>load
> >redundancy, troubleshooting boot errors, stuff like that.
> >
> >Side note: has anyone found wierd non-cisco like commands in certain 
>modes?
> >Last night we were playing around and found in one mode the router 
>responded
> >to   dir -and it showed us the flash directory files.
>
>There's IOS--the true real time operating system-- and what Cisco
>marketing calls IOS (i.e., everything Cisco has). You will find some
>non-IOS commands that are compatibility modes to acquired product
>lines.
>
>Incidentally, IOS and most commercial vendor router operating systems
>are not really UNIX derivatives.  They are purpose-built real time
>operating systems.  Any similarity to UNIX comes primarily from the
>fact that most computer scientists have worked with UNIX, where a lot
>of OS concepts were worked out.
>
>I suppose it depends how far you stretch the definition of
>UNIX-related. Is a MACH-based kernel UNIX derived? How about
>operating systems with pthreads? Since UNIX, or at least its name,
>derived from MULTICS, is everything MULTICS derived?  Windows NT
>certainly has a lot of VMS ancestry.
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Re: Tacacs+/Radius

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

Yeah, I'm looking to purchase the NFR (Not for Resale) kit and I think it's
in there so I can evaluate it.

My anti-NT guy thinks that at one time there was a freebie Tacacs or Radius
server from Cisco.  Can anyone confirm that?  He seems to remember that code
was provided that you would compile.  He also says that it could have been
more than a few years ago..

Kevin Wigle

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From: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tacacs+/Radius


> Cisco does sell a TACACS+ server for solaris.   I agree with your anti-NT
> type... if its NT and its in production someone is going to get called
> afterhours.
>
> -- Kevin
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:48 AM
> Subject: Tacacs+/Radius
>
>
> > and further on things tacacs..
> >
> > Our lab tech is really an anti-NT type of guy.  He doesn't want any
> > production servers using NT.
> >
> > And he also would prefer Radius over Tacacs+.  Does anyone have a source
> of
> > freeware Radius for unix?  His preferred platform is Solaris.
> >
> > again, tia
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
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Re:Subnet question

2001-01-29 Thread Rajeev Soni

First of all get the subnet mask. 
Since 4 bits are being used, which translates into 128+64+32+16 = 240
So our mask is 255.255.240.0
Since we want to use the other four bits to create 14 sub-subnets => Thus
resulting in the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 for the new sub-subnets(just for
the clarification).
Because the given subnet is 172.16.176.0 the host range is 172.16.176.0 -
172.16.191.255
Since we sub-subnetted again the new subnets will be 
172.16.176.0 ignoring this one
172.16.177.0
172.16.178.0
172.16.179.0
172.16.180.0
172.16.181.0
172.16.182.0
172.16.183.0
172.16.184.0
172.16.185.0
172.16.186.0
172.16.187.0
172.16.188.0
172.16.189.0
172.16.190.0
172.16.191.0 ignore this one
(2n-2)=#of subnets thus giving us the 14 subnets



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Subject:Subnet question
Author: Hunt Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   1/28/2001 2:09 PM

Can anyone please explain to me how to derive the answer of this
question?

A company has been assigned a subnet of 172.16.176.0/20, and wants the
next four available bits to create 14 subents, each containing an equal
number of hosts.  Which of the following could represent one of these
subnets?

A)    172.16.255.0/24
B)    172.16.193.0/24
C)    172.16.183.0/24
D)    172.16.16.0/24
E)    172.16.0.0/24
F)    172.16.190.0/24

Answer is C and F
 

Regards,
Hunt Lee
IP Solution Analyst
Cable and Wireless (Sydney)

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RE: Certifications on resumes

2001-01-29 Thread Brian Mitchell


Can we ease a little on the HR recruiter bashing guys?  There are a few of
us out here that do know a thing or 2 about Cisco certifications, believe it
or not.  

Brian Mitchell
ICS Corp


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes


Yes, but what you fail to realize is that Recruiters
do not care about you nor do they even read your
resume most times.  All they care about is stuffing
you into a job they think you are "Perfect" for simply
based on the fact that one word of your resume matches
whats on their client request.

Most recruiters have no experience in the field they
recruit for, and do not know how to sell you to an HR
department because they do not understand what
CCNP/CCIE mean.

Believe me, in IT, what HR thinks about a resume or a
qualified canidata dosent mean squat !!!   WHen it
gets into the hands of the IT Manager, he/she will
know who you are 
--- Rob <"mrlanman\""@visto.com> wrote:
> That sounds like a very good compromise.  I think it
> is a good way to go.
> 
> Craig Columbus wrote:
> 
> > I've actually seen more than one post that said
> CCIE required, CCNA 
> > preferred.  Go figure.
> > In my experience, CCNP doesn't get a lot of play
> in HR departments.  HR 
> > recognizes CCNA, but doesn't understand CCNP.
> > I've also seen a fair number of recruiters/HR
> confuse CCNA with CNA.
> > Bottom line?  I don't put any letters after my
> name, but I have a 
> > certifications section on my resume where I list
> each certification, spell 
> > it out, and put the date achieved...even an HR
> person should be able to see 
> > that the CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Associate,
> and that it was earned 
> > prior to my CCNP.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > At 10:08 AM 1/26/2001 +, you wrote:
> > 
> >> Robert,
> >> You will find that some jobs advertised in a way
> that they are looking for
> >> people who are CCNA or CCIE ( so where is CCNP )
> . It seems that some
> >> recruitment agency do not know the difference
> between CCIE and CCNA. I will
> >> put it the CCNA somewhere in your resume just to
> avoid that .
> >> 
> >> Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> >>
>
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> >> 
> >>> I was asked an interesting question this morning
> by a
> >>> friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically
> they
> >>> wanted to know if they should now remove the
> CCNA from
> >>> their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> >>> 
> >>> I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP
> implies
> >>> the CCNA, and therefore one would only list
> their
> >>> 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers
> said
> >>> no, list it all.
> >>> 
> >>> Please chime in with your position - unicast if
> your
> >>> just sending a vote and multicast if you are
> raising a
> >>> discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> >>> improper use of the board.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> 
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Re: BCRAN -- Book suggestions needed --Thanks

2001-01-29 Thread Brian Lodwick

Kerry,
Search the groupstudy history, someone just asked the same question less 
than a week ago. Anyways I liked McGraw Hill BCRAN book. I said BCRAN not 
BCSN.
(Aparently the McGraw Hill BCSN really sucks and everyone rants about it I 
just wanted to further clarify I liked the McGraw Hill BCRAN I never read 
their BCSN I took the ACRC, so I don't know if that one is any good or not, 
but I did like their BCRAN? McGraw Hill's BCRAN is basically the Ciscopress 
BCRAN book, but easier to read)

>>>Brian


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>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:45:27 -
>
>Guys,
>   I would be taking the Remote Access network exam in a few weeks time, I
>would be grateful if you can reconmmend good books for this exam
>
>Cheers
>
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Starting CCNP certification

2001-01-29 Thread Nguyen, Patrick

I have just passed the CCNA exam and would like to find a good book
recommendation on the next course, BSCN.  Can anyone recommend good book?




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RE: CCSI question

2001-01-29 Thread Stephen Skinner


yes after that you can only teach CCNA you must then pass the other exams to 
teach that course.

i know it sounds easy BUT after a course a crit is filled by each 
attendee and is sent to cisco .if you don not attain 80% satisfaction of 
a the first  6 months your CCSI is taken away then after they monitor your 
progress and again are slightly more leanient...

if after doing the ccna you MUST
1)sit the course and have a certificate to prove you have been on it 2
2) pass the exam with any pass mark ...

you can then teach that course like say BCRAN
there is no lab to pass for the CCNP...

BUT HERE~S the problem a Center that is CISCO APPROVED TRAINING CENTER 
must sponser you or Cisco won`t even look at you

the lab cost $1200

HTH

steve

>From: "Albert Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:13:07 +1100
>
>So after you pass CCNA and pass the lab, you can teach CCNA (only CCNA?).
>CCNP and others don't require you to pass a lab?
>
>How much does it cost to become CCSI?
>
>Albert
>
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>Sent: Monday, 29 January 2001 23:29
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCSI question
>
>
>
>the only test you need to get a high score on is the CCNA (892)...when you
>go for your CCSI lab test that is the material you will be tested on..
>
>all other courses only require a pass mark on the exam to enable you to
>teach You have to pass both the exam and LAB to teach CCIE`s
>
>BTW the CCSI lab is hard ...first day configuring routers and switches
>...second day giving presentations..they do pick on you if your
>presenting is not as good as your configuring...and they constantly ask you
>questions...just like CCIE lab
>
> >From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: CCSI question
> >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:54:09 -0500
> >
> >Just out of curiosity...is there anywhere I could look up whether or not 
>my
> >scores that I've achieved on the Cisco tests are adequate for the CCSI
> >certification?  Thanks in advance.
> >
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RE: AIX route add

2001-01-29 Thread Bob Vance

add route to network 10 out the 10 interface and then default
out the other

route add net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 10.1.1.1   1

route add net default 192.168.1.11

The above are HP-UX specific so make your AIX changes.
As to making it permanent -- I know nuttin' 'bout AIX, but you
*could* put in startup scripts (HP-UX has a network config file that
gets parsed during startup).

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Okay, way off topic, as far as Unix configs might apply to Cisco, but at
least it's about network-layer stuff.

On an AIX box, how can I add static route statements, directing traffic
to a
specific interface?  And, once added, can I make them applicable after
an
IPL/reboot?

My Problem:  An AIX server is connected to two LANs, with NIC0 connected
to
10.1.1.0/24, and NIC1 connected to 192.168.1.0/24.  These LANs are
connected
to each other via routing at the core, but a layer 8 protocol demands
"quicker access" by connecting both networks.

I'd prefer not to run a routing protocol that might affect neighboring
routers and create more traffic on the links (and open the whole STP
can-o-worms).  I want traffic destined for 10.1.1.0/24 (or 10.0.0.0/8)
to
transit NIC0, and all other traffic (see Howard's email for the proper
term)
to exit via NIC1.

One of my colleague, trying very hard to be the Unix gooroo, suggested
configuring routed or gated -- but I suspect he doesn't really know WTF
he's
talking about, since further questioning of configs and routing effects
resulted in a blank stare.

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BPX going out of style?

2001-01-29 Thread Brian Lodwick

Group,
  Wanted to poll some opinions. Yesterday I read an article which had an 
interview with Sam Halabi. In his interview he noted his reason for leaving 
Cisco was he thought it was a bad idea to get rid of their high end ATM 
switches. (I assume he is referring to the BPX's when he say's their high 
end ATM switches, and not the IGX, and MGX, but I don't know for sure?) It 
does seem like a crazy idea. I would've figured they really had a firm seat 
in this market, and pull in quite a bit of revenue from WAN ATM switch 
sales. It seems like they should've put some more effort into the software 
on these devices and get more people comfortable with their operation? Not 
necessarily changing the way they pass cells, but the CLI? Who am I to say 
though? I just get tired of knowing regular Cisco IOS and then also having 
to know IGX commands, too.
I myself feel this is a bad idea, but I look forward to what Cisco has in 
mind to fill this void. I haven't known Cisco to make too many bad decisions 
except ofcourse the 700 series ~:oP. I wonder if the thought is that they 
can create an ip device to operate as fast as these ATM switches?
Maybe I'm out in left field, if I am I hope someone sets me straight. I look 
forward to the group's replies.

>>>Brian



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Re: books on booting

2001-01-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Howard,
>When I was thinking about which book would be the book I needed I instantly
>thought this book would be good:
>Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture. Cisco Press, ISBN 1-57870-181-3
>
>I had seen it at the book store, paged through it a couple of times, too.
>Yesterday (before you sent your reply) I thumbed through it again and I
>didn't find anything on booting, and such as I was looking for. I guess I
>will go and take a closer look today and try to find the section that goes
>into this. I noticed most of the book indicated how the IOS utilizes system
>resources. I might grab a coffee and read the thing at the book store, it's
>only about 200 pages long.


I was thinking less of having details of booting as having the 
details of memory structures, where IOS runs from, etc., which will 
drive the characteristics of booting.

>
Brian
>
>>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: books on booting
>>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:18:47 -0500
>>
>>  >I would like opinions of others in the group on a book that really digs
>>into
>>  >the boot sequences, flash architechture for the different models,
>>bootstrap
>>  >setup, secondary bootstrap images, bootloader, how the different models
>>load
>>  >IOS, all that kind of stuff.
>>
>>Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture. Cisco Press, ISBN 1-57870-181-3
>>
>>  >My friend has found a book that sounds pretty good called: Cisco Router
>>  >Performance Field Guide from McGraw-Hill - has anyone read this book and
>>if
>>  >you have please comment. I just want to learn all the ways to setup IOS
>>load
>>  >redundancy, troubleshooting boot errors, stuff like that.
>>  >
>>  >Side note: has anyone found wierd non-cisco like commands in certain
>>modes?
>>  >Last night we were playing around and found in one mode the router
>>responded
>>  >to   dir -and it showed us the flash directory files.
>>
>>There's IOS--the true real time operating system-- and what Cisco
>>marketing calls IOS (i.e., everything Cisco has). You will find some
>>non-IOS commands that are compatibility modes to acquired product
>>lines.
>>
>>Incidentally, IOS and most commercial vendor router operating systems
>>are not really UNIX derivatives.  They are purpose-built real time
>>operating systems.  Any similarity to UNIX comes primarily from the
>>fact that most computer scientists have worked with UNIX, where a lot
>>of OS concepts were worked out.
>>
>>I suppose it depends how far you stretch the definition of
>>UNIX-related. Is a MACH-based kernel UNIX derived? How about
>>operating systems with pthreads? Since UNIX, or at least its name,
>>derived from MULTICS, is everything MULTICS derived?  Windows NT
>>certainly has a lot of VMS ancestry.
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RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

2001-01-29 Thread Lou Nelson

I totally agree that a resume should be clean and free of errors and project
your best image.  I was trying to point out (and I did a poor job of it)
that A CCNA IMHO has a place on the resume (if it fits) because the resume
only gets you the interview.  I know that when I wrote my resume most
recently, I kept having to remind myself that all I wanted the resume to do
was get me in the door... open up discussions on what I can do, and bypass
the HR folks to get to the technical department.  I was only focusing in on
that single point of CCNP and CCNA or just CCNP discussion.  Please forget
that CLASSIC comment I made.

Lou

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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:17 AM
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)


I fail to see how your reply relates to my post, and I
would agree with the generic position that the resume
will not garner the offer - however, I've gotten
offers on resume alone for contracts, and I've
rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because
their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.) These
problems included grammar, spelling, style and
content. The resume sets a tone - a good one raises
the expectations and elevates the canidate. A poor
one, if interviewed, places him/her in a bad position
from the start.


--- Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert...
> I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here.  The
> resume will NEVER... I
> repeat NEVER get you a job ...  Only an
> interview... and the HR
> will go over to put the full package together
> SO lets get this...  The
> interview and what end of the salary you fall on
>  The CCNA just might
> get the resume from the HR to techies,...  who will
> say... hey we got a CCNP
> here...  bottom line  it can NOT hurt you to put the
> CCNA under the CCNP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Robert Padjen
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM
> To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on
> resumes)
>
>
> I think that having two version of your resume is
> more
> common these days - fancy formatting for print and
> ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three
> pages,
> but the first page is summary and the last page is
> education, certifications and associations. I think
> that the length answer is three or under - if you've
> got more then its either too dated or you've done
> too
> much and aren't parsing out the important stuff.
>
> When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of
> gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the
> amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to
> the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA
> after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in
> fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the
> folks
> instead of pulling you to the top.
>
> One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each
> of the last five years should have at least four
> bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text.
> Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a
> little bit for introduction - I personally hate the
> "I
> want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every
> font
> and don't print double sided. Leave room for
> notes!!!
> (Sorry for being a mother hen!)
>
> For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it
> seems
> like there are two camps - those that put it in for
> HR
> and keyword search and those that don't want to work
> for a company that is too stupid to understand the
> relationship. (The position is too junior if they're
> looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement,
> althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of
> putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two
> lines shorter and he is thankful. ;)
>
> All the best.
>
>
> --- Pradeep Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page
> > resume did not make it for a tech support position
> > and a CCNA with  a one page resume made it.
> >
> > "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-)
> >
> > What is more important than the size of the resume
> > is your ability to stand up and vouch for the
> things
> > that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who
> claimed
> > being trained from Sniffer University and did not
> > know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when
> a
> > TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a
> > client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz
> he
> > was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for
> > being trained are sometimes more productive than a
> > self-centered techies.
> >
> > So, just be yourself( irrespective of length)
> >
> > -PG
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:Brant Stevens [E

ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread umerkhan

hello=20

can anyone suggest me any book or guide for the prepration of the ccnp =
cvoice certification (640-647 CVOICE)

thanx,
umer

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*WARNING* CATALYST "BUG" MEMORY LEAK VULNERABILITY

2001-01-29 Thread RAUL RENTERIA





>
>CISCO CATALYST MEMORY LEAK VULNERABILITY:
>
>This vulnerability affects Catalyst 2901, 2902, 2926T, 2926F, 2926GL, 
>2926GS
>fixed configuration chassis, and the 5000, 5002, 5500, 5505, and 5509
>modular chassis switches. 2948G, 2980G, 4003, 4006, and 4912G switches.
>6009, 6006, 6509, 6509-NEB, and 6506 modular chassis switches.

**WARNING** THE FIX SOFTWARE VERSION FOR CATALYST 4000 MODEL 5.5(4b)
HAS A "POWER REQUIREMENT". IT NEEDS 2 POWER SUPPLIES TO RUN AT ALL TIMES; 
OTHERWISE IT WILL REMOVE "OFF-LINE" "ALL" THE MODULES INSERTED IN THE 
CHASSIS, WITH EXCEPTION OF THE SUPERVISOR MODULE.  IN OTHER WORDS BEFORE 
DEPLOYING THIS LITTLE SUCKER, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MORE THAN 1 POWER SUPPLY 
CONNECTED AND RUNNING, OTHERWISE YOU WILL KICK OFF EVERYONE THATS CONNECTED 
TO YOUR SWITCH, WITH EXCEPTION OF YOUR SUPERVISOR ENGINE MODULE.THANK 
GOD FOR THAT;)
**so i guess if you want redundancy, you have no other alternative but to 
have all "3" power supplies on and connected.  More bucks for cisco.
CHECK OUT OUTPUT:
--More--2001 Jan 29 12:22:08 %SYS-2-P2_CRIT: 1/Resetting linecards due to 
insuff
icient power
2001 Jan 29 12:22:08 %SYS-2-P2_CRIT: 1/Resetting linecards due to too few 
workin
g fans
2001 Jan 29 12:22:08 %SYS-5-MOD_REMOVE:Module 2 has been removed
2001 Jan 29 12:22:17 %SYS-5-MOD_REMOVE:Module 3 has been removed
2001 Jan 29 12:22:23 %SYS-5-MOD_REMOVE:Module 4 has been removed
2001 Jan 29 12:22:26 %SYS-5-MOD_REMOVE:Module 5 has been removed
2001 Jan 29 12:22:53 %SYS-2-PS_INSUFFICIENT:Insufficient power supplies 
operatin
g, this system requires 2 and only has 1
2001 Jan 29 12:22:53 %SYS-5-PS_INSERT:Power supply 1 has been inserted
2001 Jan 29 12:22:53 %SYS-2-PS_NFANFAIL:Power supply 1 and power supply fan 
fail
ed
2001 Jan 29 12:23:08 %SYS-2-PS_OK:Power supply 1 okay
2001 Jan 29 12:23:16 %SYS-5-MOD_INSERT:Module 3 has been inserted
2001 Jan 29 12:23:16 %SYS-5-MOD_INSERT:Module 2 has been inserted
2001 Jan 29 12:23:16 %SYS-5-MOD_INSERT:Module 5 has been inserted
2001 Jan 29 12:23:16 %SYS-5-MOD_INSERT:Module 4 has been inserted
2001 Jan 29 12:23:18 %SYS-5-MOD_OK:Module 5 is online
2001 Jan 29 12:23:25 %SYS-5-MOD_OK:Module 2 is online
2001 Jan 29 12:23:25 %SYS-5-MOD_OK:Module 4 is online
2001 Jan 29 12:23:25 %SYS-5-MOD_OK:Module 3 is online


>
>HAVE FUN UPGRADING ;)=  FOR FULL DETAILS CHECK OUT CCO LINK BELOW
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/catalyst-memleak-pub.shtml
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RE: Starting CCNP certification

2001-01-29 Thread hao vu

You might want to check out couple books from Cisco Press on CCNP prep.
including BSCN.

HTH

Hao Vu

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I have just passed the CCNA exam and would like to find a good book
recommendation on the next course, BSCN.  Can anyone recommend good book?




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OSPF over frame relay

2001-01-29 Thread sami natour

All ,
I am studying configuring OSPF over NBMA ,POINT-POINT 
and point-multiple point ,boradcast.

Does any one has examples of configuration with
diagrams.

Best Regards ,
sami 

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RE: ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

The only book I can find is this one (ISBN:1587200236) :

http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?series=2&book=98

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587200236/qid%3D/107-8239556-3243701

(watch for wordwrap)

It must be a pretty easy book to read, because according to CiscoPress, it
only has 0 pages.

:-)

Should you deside to get it, please let me know if it's good, since I
probably will look at that exam when I'm done with my CCNP.

Hth,

Ole


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Subject: ccnp voice certification


hello=20

can anyone suggest me any book or guide for the prepration of the ccnp =
cvoice certification (640-647 CVOICE)

thanx,
umer

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RE: AIX route add

2001-01-29 Thread Brant Stevens

Not sure of this, so check with the man pages, but netstat -r should get you
on the way...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc.
545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
New York, NY. 10017
646-562-6540

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Okay, way off topic, as far as Unix configs might apply to Cisco, but at
least it's about network-layer stuff.

On an AIX box, how can I add static route statements, directing traffic to a
specific interface?  And, once added, can I make them applicable after an
IPL/reboot?

My Problem:  An AIX server is connected to two LANs, with NIC0 connected to
10.1.1.0/24, and NIC1 connected to 192.168.1.0/24.  These LANs are connected
to each other via routing at the core, but a layer 8 protocol demands
"quicker access" by connecting both networks.

I'd prefer not to run a routing protocol that might affect neighboring
routers and create more traffic on the links (and open the whole STP
can-o-worms).  I want traffic destined for 10.1.1.0/24 (or 10.0.0.0/8) to
transit NIC0, and all other traffic (see Howard's email for the proper term)
to exit via NIC1.

One of my colleague, trying very hard to be the Unix gooroo, suggested
configuring routed or gated -- but I suspect he doesn't really know WTF he's
talking about, since further questioning of configs and routing effects
resulted in a blank stare.

-jon-

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RE: ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread Taylor, Don

It *is* zero pages; it's a CIM (Cisco Interactive Mentor). I have it and am
using it. So far, I'm pretty impressed. It includes a discussion of the
history of the phone network, analog and digital signaling, etc. And the
biggest draw is the simulated router environment which allows you to
configure some 3600 series router with VICs to complete a call.

I'm not done with it yet, but I'm enjoying it and feel like I'm getting the
hang of VoIP pretty quickly.

- Don

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Subject: RE: ccnp voice certification


The only book I can find is this one (ISBN:1587200236) :

http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?series=2&book=98

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587200236/qid%3D/107-8239556-3243701

(watch for wordwrap)

It must be a pretty easy book to read, because according to CiscoPress, it
only has 0 pages.

:-)

Should you deside to get it, please let me know if it's good, since I
probably will look at that exam when I'm done with my CCNP.

Hth,

Ole


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Subject: ccnp voice certification


hello=20

can anyone suggest me any book or guide for the prepration of the ccnp =
cvoice certification (640-647 CVOICE)

thanx,
umer

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Re: Tacacs+/Radius

2001-01-29 Thread peter whittle

Kevin,

Ascend (Now Lucent) use to have the sources for the generic Livingston
Radius server on their web site under the support area.  You might also
try a search on RADIUS or Livingston on your favourite search engine.

You will need to compile them using gnu C. When I last played with them
( a few years back) the sources were meant to be an example of a RADIUS
server.  They handle the RADIUS protocol including accounting but are
implemented using a flat text file instead of a database.  On a Sparc 20
it would cope reasonably with c. 3 or 400 users.

If you want an example to play with then get the sources and have a go.
You could always add database calls to access the user records and
support more users.

The other draw back is the standard freebie sources did not include a
form entry system to verify and to populate the database.  User record
entry tool was called 'vi' and a comma in the wrong place and it didn't
work!

If you want a production platform with decent performance user record
validation then you will have to pay for a commercial one.

Hope that that helps.

Peter

Kevin Wigle wrote:

> and further on things tacacs..
>
> Our lab tech is really an anti-NT type of guy.  He doesn't want any
> production servers using NT.
>
> And he also would prefer Radius over Tacacs+.  Does anyone have a source of
> freeware Radius for unix?  His preferred platform is Solaris.
>
> again, tia
>
> Kevin Wigle
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Re: OSPF over frame relay

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Gallagher

Hi Sami,

Have a look at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/22.html

Rich

On Jan 29,  9:10pm, sami natour wrote:
> Subject: OSPF over frame relay
> All ,
> I am studying configuring OSPF over NBMA ,POINT-POINT
> and point-multiple point ,boradcast.
>
> Does any one has examples of configuration with
> diagrams.
>
> Best Regards ,
> sami
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Re: OSPF Wildcard mask

2001-01-29 Thread Peter Van Oene

I've always used the exact match mask of 0.0.0.0 to specify interface addresses to 
place in the OSPF process.  I find this way to be much simpler for config reading 
which is helpful during troubleshooting.

-pete


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>
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Re: books on booting

2001-01-29 Thread hal9001

No it most certainly did not, in an interview with Arthur C. Clarke he
debunks that old cherry about IBM (they'd wish I'm sure).

The only thing he regretted was the actual depiction of the size of HAL9000
which was far too large in his opinion.looked fine to me in 1968
still does today.

As for Microsoft I'll believe anything you like in fact lets start a couple
of rumours.err No Taste for example!

Karl
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> A bit of trivia for you:
>
> In the film 2001, the computer was named HAL.
>
> Take IBM, move all letters backward one letter, and you get HAL. That's
> where the name came from.
>
> Windows NT gets its name from VMS. Move each letter of VMS forward one,
and
> you get WNT. It was left to the marketing folks to determine what it stood
> for... There were many variations, these are the most popular:
>
> New Technology (they originally went with, before dropping it)
> Not There (many UNIX and Netware folks used this initially)
> Nice Try (ditto above)
>
> Z
>
>
> >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: books on booting
> >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:18:47 -0500
> >
> > >I would like opinions of others in the group on a book that really digs
> >into
> > >the boot sequences, flash architechture for the different models,
> >bootstrap
> > >setup, secondary bootstrap images, bootloader, how the different models
> >load
> > >IOS, all that kind of stuff.
> >
> >Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture. Cisco Press, ISBN 1-57870-181-3
> >
> > >My friend has found a book that sounds pretty good called: Cisco Router
> > >Performance Field Guide from McGraw-Hill - has anyone read this book
and
> >if
> > >you have please comment. I just want to learn all the ways to setup IOS
> >load
> > >redundancy, troubleshooting boot errors, stuff like that.
> > >
> > >Side note: has anyone found wierd non-cisco like commands in certain
> >modes?
> > >Last night we were playing around and found in one mode the router
> >responded
> > >to   dir -and it showed us the flash directory files.
> >
> >There's IOS--the true real time operating system-- and what Cisco
> >marketing calls IOS (i.e., everything Cisco has). You will find some
> >non-IOS commands that are compatibility modes to acquired product
> >lines.
> >
> >Incidentally, IOS and most commercial vendor router operating systems
> >are not really UNIX derivatives.  They are purpose-built real time
> >operating systems.  Any similarity to UNIX comes primarily from the
> >fact that most computer scientists have worked with UNIX, where a lot
> >of OS concepts were worked out.
> >
> >I suppose it depends how far you stretch the definition of
> >UNIX-related. Is a MACH-based kernel UNIX derived? How about
> >operating systems with pthreads? Since UNIX, or at least its name,
> >derived from MULTICS, is everything MULTICS derived?  Windows NT
> >certainly has a lot of VMS ancestry.
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Re: ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, 
How about this one? 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578701961/qid%3D980801700/107-4508504-6673344

This is highly recommended by Priscilla as one of the technical
reviewers of this book. Unfortunately I've never read it.
But I'm planning to when I'm done with my CCNP.

Regards,
Jaeheon


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>
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>umer
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Re: ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread netlinesys

what about this book

Integrating Voice and Data Networks - cisco press ( ISBN: 1578701961 ) , did
anyone tried it ??


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> cvoice certification (640-647 CVOICE)
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RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

2001-01-29 Thread Robert Padjen

There seems to be a lot of negative energy today.

William, I will start by saying that I find the tone
of your post very disturbing. You may not understand
the context, but that yields little cause to reply in
this manner. I will respond in line and without the
same tone in the hopes that we can come to a common
ground.


--- william ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert's comments are pretty typical and ignorant:
> "I've gotten offers on resume alone for contracts."
> So what?

I am saying that I, and I presume others, have
received offers only on the basis of the resume. This
refutes the contention that the resume does not get
you the job, and I was trying to illustrate the point
that the resume can and does have a significant impact
on the interview, offer and tone of the position. Lou
and I have discussed this off-line.

Further, I would ask why you take the position that my
comments are typical and ignorant. Usually typical
contentions are grounded in some fact. Also, I've
hired people since 1993, and currently screen for a
company that I consult for. I also work with a number
contracting agencies who want to place as many folks
as they can without a lot of overhead, yet it takes a
day or two to polish the resume such that they can
present it. This again leads to frustration, and could
impact placement - 'he's only worth $75 as opposed to
$115/hr.'

> 
> "I've rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates
> because
> >their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.)"
> What's wrong with this picture? Are you hiring the
> person or the resume? In 
> fact it sounds like you read the resumes and brought
> them in anyhow for an 
> interview. And although in most cases the face to
> face interview is the true 
> litmus test, you decided not hire them because to
> you, the resume was just 
> to important to overlook? Talk about wasting
> everyone's time.

I will clarify. I have refused to interview
individuals who wasted my time by sending me their
most impressive calling card and not taking the time
to provide a well-constructed document. The resume is
too important to overlook. I have hired people with
great resumes and poor interviews as the interview was
not their best presence - they were nervous, etc. I am
consistently asked to review resumes and regularly get
kudos on mine for what its worth. I also get hired. I
did not disagree with Lou regarding the fact that the
resume is the key to the door, however, I will also
disagree that the resume is a 'just enough' effort.
Too many have gotten used to the low unemployment rate
and easy times we've had and, perhaps, never learned
about the importance of a good resume. Interviewing
skills are also important, as is a good attitude that
does not critize or belittle.

> 
> Lou, don't listen to Robert.  You have the right
> idea by putting together a 
> resume that brings your strengths to light. As for
> getting it into the hands 
> of the person making the hiring decision, that is
> always the best case 
> scenario. Trust me, even the worst recruiter
> realizes that HR does not add 
> much to the process. With this in mind, it is still
> a political game that is 
> played at most companies where HR must be involved
> in the process at some 
> point so they in affect, don't lose face. The bottom
> line with any good 
> manager that has been given the task of hiring a
> good employee is to see 
> what this person is about in one on one interview.
> Only than can he or she 
> determine whether the person is a fit in more ways
> than one.
> 

Agreed, except I would add that the first impression
timer starts with the resume. As such, you might get
in the door with a weak resume, but you will be
working from a position of weakness and it will be
almost impossible to recover.

> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Lou Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Lou Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Lou Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   
> "Robert Padjen" 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on
> resumes)
> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:53:44 -0600
> >
> >I totally agree that a resume should be clean and
> free of errors and 
> >project
> >your best image.  I was trying to point out (and I
> did a poor job of it)
> >that A CCNA IMHO has a place on the resume (if it
> fits) because the resume
> >only gets you the interview.  I know that when I
> wrote my resume most
> >recently, I kept having to remind myself that all I
> wanted the resume to do
> >was get me in the door... open up discussions on
> what I can do, and bypass
> >the HR folks to get to the technical department.  I
> was only focusing in on
> >that single point of CCNP and CCNA or just CCNP
> discussion.  Please forget
> >that CLASSIC comment I made.
> >
> >Lou
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Robert Padjen
> >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:17 AM
> >To: Lou Nelson; Pradeep Kumar;
> [EMAIL P

RE: ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)

It has 0 pages because it's not a book.  It's an interactive CD.

-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 2:00 PM
To: 'umerkhan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ccnp voice certification


The only book I can find is this one (ISBN:1587200236) :

http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?series=2&book=98

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587200236/qid%3D/107-8239556-3243701

(watch for wordwrap)

It must be a pretty easy book to read, because according to CiscoPress, it
only has 0 pages.

:-)

Should you deside to get it, please let me know if it's good, since I
probably will look at that exam when I'm done with my CCNP.

Hth,

Ole


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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ccnp voice certification


hello=20

can anyone suggest me any book or guide for the prepration of the ccnp =
cvoice certification (640-647 CVOICE)

thanx,
umer

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Re: Tacacs+/Radius

2001-01-29 Thread Kevin Wigle

thanks!

We have done that already and yes "vi" was used.  :-)

Looks good so far.  Its providing all that the lab guy wants - which is a
good thing.

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: Re: Tacacs+/Radius


> Kevin,
>
> Ascend (Now Lucent) use to have the sources for the generic Livingston
> Radius server on their web site under the support area.  You might also
> try a search on RADIUS or Livingston on your favourite search engine.
>
> You will need to compile them using gnu C. When I last played with them
> ( a few years back) the sources were meant to be an example of a RADIUS
> server.  They handle the RADIUS protocol including accounting but are
> implemented using a flat text file instead of a database.  On a Sparc 20
> it would cope reasonably with c. 3 or 400 users.
>
> If you want an example to play with then get the sources and have a go.
> You could always add database calls to access the user records and
> support more users.
>
> The other draw back is the standard freebie sources did not include a
> form entry system to verify and to populate the database.  User record
> entry tool was called 'vi' and a comma in the wrong place and it didn't
> work!
>
> If you want a production platform with decent performance user record
> validation then you will have to pay for a commercial one.
>
> Hope that that helps.
>
> Peter
>
> Kevin Wigle wrote:
>
> > and further on things tacacs..
> >
> > Our lab tech is really an anti-NT type of guy.  He doesn't want any
> > production servers using NT.
> >
> > And he also would prefer Radius over Tacacs+.  Does anyone have a source
of
> > freeware Radius for unix?  His preferred platform is Solaris.
> >
> > again, tia
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
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RE: NAT or ACL??

2001-01-29 Thread Jason Baker

um both.

Regards,

Jason Baker
Network Engineer
MCSE, CCNA



-Original Message-
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Subject: NAT or ACL??


Hi All,

Any body knows whats the best way to protect Internal network from Internet
??

I found many different answers out of them,Finallyy I have to choose b/w
two..

NAT  or Acces-Lists??

ANyh help would be appreciated.

DR.


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CCIE Written

2001-01-29 Thread Christopher Sanchez

Hello all,
I have completed my CCNP.  For any CCIE's out there who have taken the 
giant steps to get the knowledge what would you recommend as a good step 
from here to prepare for the CCIE Written?  What books do you recommend?  I 
have read all Cisco Press books for BCRAN, Support, BSCN, and BCMSN.  All 
very good by the way.  What do you suggest?

All opinions are welcomed,
Chris
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How to you remote log on to router ?

2001-01-29 Thread RS

Hi there !
Is there anything else than telnet to remote log on to a router ?

Is it possible to use something like ssh ?
Or are there any other secure protocolls for router available ?

Any replies are truely appreciated !!!
Ray.


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Re: OSPF over frame relay

2001-01-29 Thread Shan Huang

I am actually having same problems. This part is poorly explained in most of the BCRAN
prep materials.

Could some one kindly enough to explain the differences between NBMA, PTP, and PTM with
respect to OSPF config?

Best Regards,
Shan

> All ,
> I am studying configuring OSPF over NBMA ,POINT-POINT
> and point-multiple point ,boradcast.
>
> Does any one has examples of configuration with
> diagrams.
>
> Best Regards ,
> sami
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RE: ccnp voice certification

2001-01-29 Thread Brandon Rose

Today in the mail a copy of "IP Telephony" courtesy of Cisco showed up (in
return for answering some propaganda/questions on the Catalyst 3524-PWR XL)
- publisher is McGraw Hill, authors are Goralski & Kolon.  It can't be too
bad is Cisco is giving it out.

I have a copy of "Integrating Voice and Data Networks" at home which I
haven't found time to read yet but it did look very good based on the look
through I gave it.

Brandon


> -Original Message-
> From: netlinesys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ccnp voice certification
> 
> 
> what about this book
> 
> Integrating Voice and Data Networks - cisco press ( ISBN: 
> 1578701961 ) , did
> anyone tried it ??
> 
> 
> "umerkhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > hello=20
> >
> > can anyone suggest me any book or guide for the prepration 
> of the ccnp =
> > cvoice certification (640-647 CVOICE)
> >
> > thanx,
> > umer
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how useful is certificationzone ?

2001-01-29 Thread Mongol Blizzard

hello all
how many ccie wriiten aspirants have joined certificationzone.com?
what is your opinion(with no marketing spices) about the note below?

if i have a plan of taking the written in 3 months and start to study from 
scratch assuming all i have learnt in ccnp is forgottenthen at what 
level do i need to join certificationzone.com?

all sincere answers appreciated.
regards

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General Q

2001-01-29 Thread Ray Smith

Hello Guys,

 Can anyone please advise me on whether or not the Plextor 12x10x32x 
Internal IDE CDRW is better buy than the current Yamaha 16x10x40 Internal 
IDE CDRW Drive?  I would appreciate some help in the decision process, based 
on your experience or familiarity with these product.


Ray
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Re: Pls help: ATM study materials

2001-01-29 Thread Ray Smith

The book just recommended to you entitled "Cisco ATM solution"
ISBN:1-57870-213-5, I understand is a really good book.  I just ordered it 
myself, but have not gotten into it as jet so I can not confirm how good it 
realy is.  If you are just interested in White Paper on the subject, let me 
know and I could direct you to a site or two that may help you.



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>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:48:01 +0800
>
>For me, I would recommend the book "Cisco ATM solution"
>ISBN:1-57870-213-5
>
>
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> >
> > My current project is all about ATM. But I never
> > really touch ATM before.
> >
> > Anyone has idea on where I can find good ATM study
> > materials?
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> > Thanks so much!!
> >
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Re: How to you remote log on to router ?

2001-01-29 Thread Tim O'Brien

Sure,

You can use SSH to talk to a router. I believe that it is new in 12.1
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121
t/121t3/sshv1c.htm

Tim


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Hi there !
Is there anything else than telnet to remote log on to a router ?

Is it possible to use something like ssh ?
Or are there any other secure protocolls for router available ?

Any replies are truely appreciated !!!
Ray.


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Re: Cable to connect 2502 to MAU

2001-01-29 Thread Ken W. Alger

True, true, but it certainly beats the $38.00 that they charge at the local
electronics store.  It has always amazed me at the price that we in the IT
field pay to avoid the "hassle" of making cables/connectors, i.e. Cisco
charges $100 for an AUX/Console cable kit.

Anyway, just my opinion.

Ken

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> Hi
>
> You need a media filter, which is nothing more than a DB9 head shell with
> four pins connected. Here is a link for all kinds of pin outs, including
TR.
> (watch the wrap)
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2501/
> 2500ug/pin.htm
>
> The head shell should'nt cost more than about $3 at the local electronics
> store.
>
> Then a straight Cat5 cable to the MAU.
>
> No offense, but $15 plus shipping for a  head shell is crazy!
>
> HTH
> --
> John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I
>
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> use
> > to connect a 2502 Token Ring router to an RJ45 based Token Ring switch.
I
> > know there is the DB9 to Type 1 cables available, I just must be missing
> the
> > boat on the name for DB9 Male to RJ45 cable that it seems like I need.
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Re: OSPF Wildcard mask

2001-01-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>I've always used the exact match mask of 0.0.0.0 to specify 
>interface addresses to place in the OSPF process.  I find this way 
>to be much simpler for config reading which is helpful during 
>troubleshooting.
>
>-pete

I agree completely; this is what I do.  There's a military adage that 
sweat spent in training saves blood in battle.  The compulsion many 
people have to skimp on lines while configuring often costs 
figurative blood in troubleshooting.

These observations, however, are for the real world. Certainly, the 
ACRC/BSCN courseware has lots of examples of different ways of 
configuring OSPF network statements.  Always remember that Cisco 
training and education tend to emphasize knowing all variants of 
commands than necessarily using the best command for the job, and 
certification exams may express this view.

>
>
>*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
>On 1/29/2001 at 6:06 AM David Richard wrote:
>
>>If I want to configure OSPF for my serial interface having Ip-address of
>>
>>183.23.45.46 255.255.255.224
>>
>>Am I correct to choose its wild card mask as  0.0.0.31???
>  >
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