L3-Switching & Inter-vlan routing [7:6096]

2001-05-27 Thread CCSI

the following packet match the same rule will be directly switched by the
L3-Swtich or MLS-enabled Switch.

Inter-Vlan Routing: This is kind of routing. This first packet and the
following packet will be routed by the router, not switch. So you will find
the Inter-Vlan routing can not provide wire-speed forwarding.


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Re: What do "interVLAN routing "and" Layer 3 switching " mean [7:6094]

2001-05-27 Thread CCSI

the following packet match the same rule will be directly switched by the
L3-Swtich or MLS-enabled Switch.

Inter-Vlan Routing: This is kind of routing. This first packet and the
following packet will be routed by the router, not switch. So you will find
the Inter-Vlan routing can not provide wire-speed forwarding.


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Re: Serial1/3.1 is deleted, line protocol is down [7:6090]

2001-05-27 Thread ElephantChild

On Mon, 28 May 2001, Arun wrote:

> Hi
> i am getting this message when i run
> show int command on 3600 series router with x25 on it
> i tried configuring it but i removed whats wrong can u pls help

If you didn't do so already, read what the cisco docs say on "show
interface", then tell us what specific part you still don't understand,
and what you think it could mean. Also tell us what other steps you took
to answer your question, and how and why you think they failed.

Or, if your question isn't "what does a deleted/down status mean?",
you'll have to tell us what it is.

> Regards
> Arun Sharma
> 
> Serial1/3.1 is deleted, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M4T
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation X25
> Serial2/0 is down, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M4T
>   Description: BGW 1.1
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation X25, loopback not set
>   X.25 DCE, address , state R/Inactive, modulo 8, timer 0
>   Defaults: idle VC timeout 0
> cisco encapsulation
> input/output window sizes 2/2, packet sizes 128/128
>   Timers: T10 60

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Re: What do "interVLAN routing "and" Layer 3 switching " mean [7:6093]

2001-05-27 Thread CCSI

the following packet match the same rule will be directly switched by the
L3-Swtich or MLS-enabled Switch.

Inter-Vlan Routing: This is kind of routing. This first packet and the
following packet will be routed by the router, not switch. So you will find
the Inter-Vlan routing can not provide wire-speed forwarding.


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Re: help --------------Pls ................OIR Error [7:6021]

2001-05-27 Thread Arun

i don't find these commands on the my router i am using ver 11.3 
both are not here or may be i don't know how to run them

Arun Sharma
""Rahul Kachalia""  wrote in message
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> Well not sure about the stat but since its an event not an specific error
I
> would try following :
>
> - Though there is an OIR event configure same port & put it online, verify
> X25 works. Even if it works make sure you dont have any errors on link.
> - Try changing cable/PA/bay on same box.
> - If you another router running same image then use same cable/pa to make
> sure if you get same error.
>
> If that works then change logging level, also make sure you dont have
> any records by typing following commands if its there then add more
> information to mail.
>
> - show exception
> - show align
>
> thanks,
> rahul.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arun"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: help --Pls OIR Error [7:6021]
>
>
> > Hi
> > Here the detail for u i have ver 11.8 runnign on it
> >
> > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> > IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-JS-M), Version 11.3(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE
> (fc1)
> > Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> > Compiled Tue 02-Feb-99 14:13 by dschwart
> > Image text-base: 0x60008918, data-base: 0x608E8000
> >
> > ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
> > SOFTWARE (f
> > c1)
> > System image file is "flash:c3640-js-mz.113-8", booted via flash
> >
> > cisco 3640 (R4700) processor (revision 0x00) with 49152K/16384K bytes of
> > memory.
> > Processor board ID 13831748
> > R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0
> > Bridging software.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Arun Sharma
> >
> > ""Chuck Larrieu""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Beat the hell out of me.
> > >
> > > In the past I have posted about problems with earlier 12.x codes,
where
> if
> > I
> > > plugged serial cables into a serial interface while the router was
> powered
> > > on, IP would not work, although IPX would.
> > >
> > > I've had people tell me I was an idiot, and this couldn't happen. But
> > Pamela
> > > Forsythe told me she recognized the phenomenon.
> > >
> > > I've moved my routers onto various versions of 12.1 code, and have not
> > seen
> > > the problem. Actually, I don't think I ever saw the problem with later
> > > versions of 12.0 code either.
> > >
> > > Still curious what IOS version you are running.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > Arun
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: help --Pls OIR Error [7:6021]
> > >
> > > hi
> > > yes i tried reloading the router with the cables attached and it
worked
> > > ..
> > > thanks for the help but what could be the reason for that if i know it
> > will
> > > be a help .
> > >
> > > Arun Sharma
> > > ""Chuck Larrieu""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Have you tried reloading the router with the cable attached?
> > > >
> > > > Or blowing away the X.35 config, reloading with the cable attached,
> then
> > > > putting in the X.25
> > > >
> > > > What version of IOS are you running? I have documented a couple of
> > > problems
> > > > revolving around serial port cables with 12.0.4 or so.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Arun
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 3:58 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: help --Pls OIR Error [7:6021]
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > I have router configured as X25 router .I have 2 slots in it with
each
> > > > having 4 serial ports on them.The problem is that when i connect the
> > cisco
> > > > provided cable just the cable to the administratively shutdown
serial
> > port
> > > > it gives me error :
> > > > %OIRINT:OIR Event has occured OIR_ctrl 50 oir stat 8F88
> > > > ( i have checked OIR it stands online insertion and removal but i
> could
> > > not
> > > > find this particular error)
> > > > and this also hangs the router i have checked the cable i can not do
> > many
> > > > thngs on the router as it is in live n/w ..Please help ..the router
> > works
> > > > well after i remove cable and restart the router .
> > > > Any help will be appreciated
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Arun Sharma
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Re: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]

2001-05-27 Thread EA Louie

You'll need to be able to setup the 2511 for term server/console connections
to the LAB routers.

Look at the Cisco CCIE Routing Webpage and click the equipment list link to
see what they use in the CCIE Lab - that will probably answer some of your
questions about whether to replace or not.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html

It's true the modular routers will hold their value better, but so do the
multiport 2500's as so kindly pointed out when I asked for help on the
mailing list with my lab setup.

-e-

- Original Message -
From: "Rashid Lohiya" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:36 AM
Subject: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]


> Hi,
>
> my currently lab setup at home.I need a little advice.
>
> I am thinking of replacing my collection of 25xx routers with modular
> routers to practise lab scenarios for CCIE.
>
> Please can you advise whether it would be advisable to get rid of my 2511
> and buy a 2-Port Asynch NM to give my my 16 Asych RJ45 feeds.
>
> I am also thinking of buying a 4-Port Serial T1 Card for my 3600, to give
me
> 6 Serial interfaces to practise most FR scenarios, instead of buying a
> 2521/2522.
>
> coupled with my regular 2600 with FE, 1003, and 2 x 1750's 4v's (2xFXS
Cards
> & Bri) . I think I should have enough routers to practise even complex
> scenarios.
>
> I believe the modular routers will hold their value better than the
2500's.
>
> Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated
>
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Serial1/3.1 is deleted, line protocol is down [7:6090]

2001-05-27 Thread Arun

Hi
i am getting this message when i run
show int command on 3600 series router with x25 on it
i tried configuring it but i removed whats wrong can u pls help

Regards
Arun Sharma

Serial1/3.1 is deleted, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation X25
Serial2/0 is down, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  Description: BGW 1.1
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation X25, loopback not set
  X.25 DCE, address , state R/Inactive, modulo 8, timer 0
  Defaults: idle VC timeout 0
cisco encapsulation
input/output window sizes 2/2, packet sizes 128/128
  Timers: T10 60




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Re: What do "interVLAN routing "and" Layer 3 switching " mean [7:6089]

2001-05-27 Thread frank

What does the following mean ?it's cut from a description of WS-X4232-L3 on
cisco website.


The Catalyst 4003 and 4006 Layer 3 Services module provides interVLAN
routing for the Catalyst 4000 family switch and provides Layer 3 switching
between the Gigabit Ethernet interfaces.

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>
> OK I'll bite...
>
> Yes there is a difference. It gets a little convoluted, but there is a
> difference.
>
> L3 switching: Think of a L3 switch as a multi port router that operates at
> wire speed. The 2948G-L3 is an example. It is just a 50 port Ethernet
> router. So L3 switching is routing traffic at wire speeds. You could use
one
> of these to route between VLANs, or route between networks.
>
> Inter-VLAN routing: This is a technique, technology that is only used to
> route traffic from one VLAN to other VLAN(s). It generally takes place at
> wire speeds inside a Cat switch with a L3 switch option, but is often see
> with routers that do not work at wire speeds.
>
> So the bottom line... think of a L3 switch as a device, and Inter-VLAN
> routing as a technology.
>
> HTH
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RE: PIX Software V6.0 [7:5969]

2001-05-27 Thread Michal Kozisek

It is not true. My college tryed this and it is working with
DES also. However, you must have configured DH group 2 in
your PIX (VPN Client 3.0 doesn't support DH 1).

Michal

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PIX Software V6.0 [7:5969]
> 
> 
> No more DES.
> 
> I was told by TAC that if you want to use VPN 3.0 client, 
> your PIX must have
> 3 DES activated. A pre-sale told me that this costs
$1,000.00 
> plus license
> for VPN clients.
> 
> Can someone confirm this ?
> 
> Alex Lee
> 
> 
> "Carroll Kong" wrote in message ...
> >At 05:17 PM 5/25/01 -0400, Vijay Ramcharan wrote:
> >>If anyone wasn't aware, V6.0 of the PIX software is now
available.
> >>And as I just found out, to use the VPN 3.0 client,
"isakmp policy ?
> >>group 2" must be used to enable successful
authentication.
> >>
> >>Vijay Ramcharan
> >
> >Are you sure this is not user configurable?  Group 2
refers to the
> >Diffie-Hellman group used.  I suppose unless they made it
a 
> standard to not
> >allow you to use Group 1 (weaker), but sheesh, if they
made that the
> >requirement, how dare they let people use DES.
> >
> >
> >
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Configuring backup interface .......urgent [7:6087]

2001-05-27 Thread Arun

Hi
I have 3600 router coonfigured as x25 i have 2 slots each having 4
serial interfaces in it ...
i have to configure this with 2 serial ports on slot one for x25
encapsulation and on slot 2 i have to configure 2 serial ports which need to
act as redundant in case there is problem with slot 1 ports ..
i have ver 11.3 runing on it 
i added the entries like ...
x25 route 010104 int ser 1/2
x25 route 010104 int ser 1/3
x25 route 010103 int ser 2/2
x25 route 010103 int ser 2/3

First thing will this do the job the machines on the other end has 2 serial
port for each machine one is active and one is standy .machine switch
over to standy if it sees error i link so i need to route the packets to
this standby machine with interface ser 2/2 and ser 2/3 .

Now i read somewhere like x25 retry command and backup interface command ...
how can i use them can anybody send me the configuration and also will this
work on ver 11.3
i tried it on ver11.3 but i think it doesn';t support it 

Pls suggest something .

Regards
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Re: Wanna Be a CCIE? Try This One [7:6076]

2001-05-27 Thread W. Alan Robertson

Chuck,

Is that what set off the great "Virtual link" thread, which I might add, has
become quite heated?  I was just skimming the list for the past couple of
days,
so I didn't really catch the beginning.

I'm not sure it's been resolved yet, but I know the answer to the question if
that's of any interest.

It's kind of a trick question...

In OSPF, traffic between two non-zero areas (such as area1 and area2 in the
diagram below) must traverse the backbone, area0.  This is a special
circumstance though, because router2 is virtually linked to area0, since it
doesn't have a direct connection.

The end result is that traffic between areas 1 and 2 does pass through area0,
but not in the way most people think.  R2 is a backbone router, by virtue of
it's virtual link, so it may pass traffic between areas1 and 2 directly. 
This
does not break any rules, and is in fact a desired behavior.

Alan


- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:59 PM
Subject: Wanna Be a CCIE? Try This One [7:6076]


> Ever wonder what the CCIE candidates talk about on the CCIE list?
>
> The following message came through today. I thought the bright folks on
this
> list might be curious, and might want to venture an answer.
>
> Begin original question:
>
> Guys,
>
> I wonder if there is anybody who remembers the discussion on Virtual
> Links in OSPF. It was posted some time ago but I can't seem to find it.
>
> The scenario was something like this:
>   ___  ___
> |Area 0   |  |Area1||Area2|
> |R0|--| R1 |--| R2 |
> |__|   |_||_|
>
> There is a virtual link from area 2 to Area 0 via Area1. Traffic needs to
> get to R1 in Area 1 from R2 in Area 2. Assume that the virtual link has to
> use R1 (To create the V.Link). Does the traffic flow passed R1 (in Area 1)
> to Area 0 and then back to area 1, or does the actual flow just to R1 from
> R2.
>
> I cant remember the conclusion, and I cant seem to find it on the archives.
> Quite interesting issues.
>
> End of original question
>
>
> Chuck
>
> One IOS to forward them all.
> One IOS to find them.
> One IOS to summarize them all
> And in the routing table bind them.
>
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Re: What do "interVLAN routing "and" Layer 3 switching " mean [7:6084]

2001-05-27 Thread John Hardman

Hi

OK I'll bite...

Yes there is a difference. It gets a little convoluted, but there is a
difference.

L3 switching: Think of a L3 switch as a multi port router that operates at
wire speed. The 2948G-L3 is an example. It is just a 50 port Ethernet
router. So L3 switching is routing traffic at wire speeds. You could use one
of these to route between VLANs, or route between networks.

Inter-VLAN routing: This is a technique, technology that is only used to
route traffic from one VLAN to other VLAN(s). It generally takes place at
wire speeds inside a Cat switch with a L3 switch option, but is often see
with routers that do not work at wire speeds.

So the bottom line... think of a L3 switch as a device, and Inter-VLAN
routing as a technology.

HTH
--
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E1 and T1 [7:6086]

2001-05-27 Thread Fanglo MA

Does anyone know would E1 WIC card can cross back-to-back with T1 WIC card?

TIA
Fanglo




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Re: TokenRing MAU - anyone have one to sell [7:6062]

2001-05-27 Thread EA Louie

Andy - Here's a link to a guy who has them on eBay - I just bought 3 MAUs
from him and he says he has more:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1238793053&r=0&t=0&sho
wTutorial=0&ed=990717099&indexURL=0&rd=1

-e-
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 7:57 AM
Subject: TokenRing MAU - anyone have one to sell [7:6062]


> have been looking for a cheap & cheerful token-ring MAU without any luck
>
> if anyone has a spare and wants to sell then please get in touch
>
> I am in the UK, but can import if need be
>
> many thanks
>
> Andy
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Re: CCIE pre-lab [7:5894]

2001-05-27 Thread Xinsheng Jiang

> 
> Check out http://www.IPexpert.net
> 
> This site just went live today -  5 CCIE's have developed a
> great CCIE LAB
> preparation
> workbook.  You can get the details on the CCIE workbook as well
> as the
> on-line rack
> access there.
> 
> Thanks! - Wayne
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What do "interVLAN routing "and" Layer 3 switching " mean ?Any [7:6080]

2001-05-27 Thread frank

Thanks,


Frank




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Re: TokenRing MAU - anyone have one to sell [7:6062]

2001-05-27 Thread Jason Baker

try EBAY there are plenty on there :)


Regards,

Jason

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Subject: TokenRing MAU - anyone have one to sell [7:6062]


> have been looking for a cheap & cheerful token-ring MAU without any luck
>
> if anyone has a spare and wants to sell then please get in touch
>
> I am in the UK, but can import if need be
>
> many thanks
>
> Andy
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Re: What do "interVLAN routing "and" Layer 3 switching " mean [7:6082]

2001-05-27 Thread frank

Any difference?

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Re: CCIE Lab setup [7:4872]

2001-05-27 Thread Brian

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Rashid Lohiya wrote:

> Hi,
>
> my currently lab setup at home.I need a little advice.
>
> I am thinking of replacing my collection of 25xx routers with modular
> routers to practise lab scenarios for CCIE.
>
> Please can you advise whether it would be advisable to get rid of my 2511
> and buy a 2-Port Asynch NM to give my my 16 Asych RJ45 feeds.
>
> I am also thinking of buying a 4-Port Serial T1 Card for my 3600, to give
me
> 6 Serial interfaces to practise most FR scenarios, instead of buying a
> 2521/2522.

bad idea in my opinion.  A NM-4T is going to cost you $1000-$2000.

In contrast, an FSIP4 for a 7000 is only about $200.  FSIP8 about $500.
NP-4T (4000 series) $400.  See my point?

>
> coupled with my regular 2600 with FE, 1003, and 2 x 1750's 4v's (2xFXS
Cards
> & Bri) . I think I should have enough routers to practise even complex
> scenarios.
>
> I believe the modular routers will hold their value better than the 2500's.
>
> Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated
>
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Re: ATM for home lab: MM or SM? [7:6077]

2001-05-27 Thread Fred Danson

>From what I've seen recently on Ebay, the prices for 4500/4700 SM modules 
have been cheaper than 4500/4700 MM modules. Your cabling won't affect the 
upper layer protocols, so the cheaper cable is the best choice. Also, I 
rarely see SM modules in the LS100 switches advertised on Ebay. If you 
decide to buy SM modules for either of your routers, make sure you got a 
switch with SM lined up first.

Fred


>From: Brian 
>Reply-To: Brian 
>To: RAMIL 
>CC: 
>Subject: Re: ATM for home lab: MM or SM?
>Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:42:35 -0500 (CDT)
>
>depends on the module configs.  Empty about 500-800
>On Thu, 10 May 2001, RAMIL wrote:
>
> > how much does an LS100 go for these days?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:05 AM
> > Subject: ATM for home lab: MM or SM?
> >
> >
> > > I am getting ready to buy some ATM switch modules
> > > and router modules so I can have some ATM in my
> > > lab.  Do you all think its better to try and go with MM
> > > or SM, I mean which do you think is going to be easier
> > > to find and less expensive to do this?  I have 4500 and 7000
> > > series routers to source ATM router interfaces for.  My switch
> > > is a LS100.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
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Wanna Be a CCIE? Try This One [7:6076]

2001-05-27 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Ever wonder what the CCIE candidates talk about on the CCIE list?

The following message came through today. I thought the bright folks on this
list might be curious, and might want to venture an answer.

Begin original question:

Guys,

I wonder if there is anybody who remembers the discussion on Virtual
Links in OSPF. It was posted some time ago but I can't seem to find it.

The scenario was something like this:
  ___  ___
|Area 0   |  |Area1||Area2|
|R0|--| R1 |--| R2 |
|__|   |_||_|

There is a virtual link from area 2 to Area 0 via Area1. Traffic needs to
get to R1 in Area 1 from R2 in Area 2. Assume that the virtual link has to
use R1 (To create the V.Link). Does the traffic flow passed R1 (in Area 1)
to Area 0 and then back to area 1, or does the actual flow just to R1 from
R2.

I cant remember the conclusion, and I cant seem to find it on the archives.
Quite interesting issues.

End of original question


Chuck

One IOS to forward them all.
One IOS to find them.
One IOS to summarize them all
And in the routing table bind them.

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Re: CCNP Books ? [7:6058]

2001-05-27 Thread Brian

The cisco press most recent ccnp library seems to be the least erroneous
of the series out there.

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
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On Sun, 27 May 2001, Taufik A Lubis wrote:

> I have a planning to prepare CCNP test (WAN Switching , Routing and
>
> etc) ... but i just know books from sybex  does anybody know about the
>
> others books about CCNP material tests ? which one better ?
>
>   Thanks for informations
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Re: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3? [7:6074]

2001-05-27 Thread KY

Peter,

 The  difference is Juniper's IS-IS has TLVs( metric wide-only) enabled by
default.

KY

""Peter Van Oene""  wrote in message
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> Ahh, thanks for the insight.  I didn't realize that was the case.  My MPLS
> experience is restricted to Juniper at this point.
>
> Pete
>
>
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
> On 5/26/2001 at 8:58 AM Michael Cohen wrote:
>
> >Yes, that's true.  TLV's #22 and #135 are used to carry information
needed
> >for MPLS TE however, in order to enable these TLV's on a cisco router,
wide
> >metric support is required...
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120newft/12
0
> >t/120t7/te120_7t.htm#xtocid214168
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >-Michael Cohen
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Peter Van Oene
> >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1:02 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3?
> >[7:6015]
> >
> >
> >A small correction.  Traffic engineering databases are populated via new
> >TLV's in IS-IS (see Draft-ietf-isis-traffic-0x.txt).  Wide metric support
> >is
> >not required.
> >
> >*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> >
> >On 5/25/2001 at 12:06 PM Michael Cohen wrote:
> >
> >>Quite right.  RSVP-TE is only for path creation and setup.  Actual
> >>bandwidth
> >>allocation information is disseminated to all TE devices using the IGP
> >>(OSPF
> >>Opaque LSA's and IS-IS wide metrics).  This also leads to the current
> >>limitation of only running MPLS-TE within a single area of the link
state
> >>IGP since the bandwidth information doesn't cross area boundaries.  Each
> >>head end of TE tunnels should know what bandwidth is available through
the
> >>entire tunnel path prior to RSVP signaling.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>-Michael Cohen
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:25 AM
> >>To: 'Michael Cohen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: RE: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3?
> >>[7:5765]
> >>
> >>
> >>Just to clarify, most other vendors are now heading down the RSVP-TE
road
> >>for MPLS LDP provisioning (or at the very least, they are agreeing to
> >>support RSVP-TE).  The RSVP-TE vs. CR-LDP argument seems to finally be
> >>dying
> >>down.
> >>
> >>It should be noted that RSVP-TE is only for path creation and setup, it
> >>doesn't perform the same role as was envisioned for IntServ.
> >>
> >>If anyone is interested in comparing the two protocols, Data Connection
> >has
> >>a good white paper on their site, which I link to from the MPLS Resource
> >>Center - www.mplsrc.com.
> >>
> >>
> >>Irwin
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Michael Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:17 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: RE: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3?
> >>[7:5765]
> >>
> >>
> >>I think there might be some confusion as to where RSVP and CR-LDP are
> >being
> >>used.  Steve is correct in saying that Cisco is using RSVP and most
other
> >>vendors are using CR-LDP for Traffic Engineering.  Cisco is also using
the
> >>proprietary TDP to distribute tags in their MPLS solution while other
> >>vendors are conforming to the MPLS standard LDP.  Cisco does support LDP
> >>for
> >>tag distribution in their 12.0.10ST and higher software and plans on
> >>deploying it in 12.2T for availability on most platforms.  I haven't
heard
> >>Cisco planning support for CR-LDP with Traffic Engineering in the near
> >>future...
> >>
> >>-Mike
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >>Stephen Skinner
> >>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:13 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: RE: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3?
> >>[7:5758]
> >>
> >>
> >>guys,
> >>
> >>thanks for your imput .
> >>
> >>yes i was loosely discribing MPLS ...it does have all the functions you
> >>state... and more ,
> >>
> >>i must be mistaken about the RVSP because i seem to remeber reading
> >>somewhere that cisco is favoring RSVPand that there LDP is based on
> >>this
> >>
> >>but hey i must be mistaken .
> >>
> >>also the RFC you list does not come up as valid ont the ITEF...please
can
> >>you re-send this
> >>
> >>many thanks
> >>
> >>steve
> >>>From: "Marc-Andre Giroux"
> >>>Reply-To: "Marc-Andre Giroux"
> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Subject: RE: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3?
> >[7:5723]
> >>>Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:56:43 -0400
> >>>
> >>>Steve,
> >>> MPLS is alot more then just ATM PNNI at layer 3. Your statement is
> >>>semi true when talking about MPLS VPN's the concept does come from ATM
> >but
> >>>there is so much more you can do with it go read on traffic
engineering,
> >>>the
> >>>fish bowl effect, valued added services (VPNs) and the network
> 

Re: Free Layer 3 Catalyst Lab (Kitty++) [7:6068]

2001-05-27 Thread Niraj Palikhey

I think one guy with a great sense of customer service is Michael Beacom. He 
is worth dealing with..


>From: "Peter I. Slow" 
>Reply-To: "Peter I. Slow" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Free Layer 3 Catalyst Lab (Kitty++) [7:6068]
>Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:22:44 -0400
>
>Anyone got one of the token ring switching modules for this thing?
>(the catalyst)
>
>-Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
>- Original Message -
>From: "Neal Rauhauser"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:47 AM
>Subject: Free Layer 3 Catalyst Lab (Kitty++)
>
>
> >
> > More is never enough. This obvious truth being stated, we'll move on
> > to the details of our latest 'event' :-)
> >
> >
> >Using reverse telnet to 24.3.233.101 with a userid and password of
> > 'ebay' you will find the following toys
> >
> >
> > port 2008Catalyst 5000 /w WS-X5530-E2 NFFC supervisor 3 engine
> > port 2007Cisco 4500 /w fast ethernet (not yet functional, must be
> > made to netboot due to small flash)
> > port 2006Cisco 7206 /w fast ethernet
> > port 2005 Cisco 2501
> > port 2004Cisco 2501
> > port 2003Cisco MC3810
> > port 2002Cat 2912-XL-EN (due in Tuesday)
> >
> >  For the moment all of these devices have no passwords beyond the
> > userid ebay/password ebay needed to get past the terminal server HOWEVER
> > the last time I provided a free online lab some buttnozzle, against my
> > explicit instructions, went around and put passwords on every device. I
> > don't mind providing this stuff when its around but this kind of
> > behavior drives me to distraction so there is now a new policy:
> >
> >This stuff will be freely available over the long Memorial Day
> > weekend and you can email myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Peter Slow
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll patch up anything that goes wrong.
> >
> >Once the weekend is over we're going to lock it down for our personal
> > use HOWEVER we will accept small cash bribes ($10?) via paypal for a day
> > of dedicated access. I think this will keep the lab available, still
> > darned close to free, and save Pete and I a lot of tech support
> > headaches.
> >
> >
> >We owe massive props to:
> >
> >
> > Peter Slow - the world's youngest AND shortest CCNP (17, 5' nothing)
> > - for the loan of the Catalyst and supervisor engine
> >
> > Optimum Data - for the loan of the PA-FE-TX, the WS-X5224 in the
> > Catalyst, and the entire 4500 /w fast ethernet.
> >
> > Dan Jaffe - for the loan of the Cat 2912
> >
> >
> >
> >You can reach Optimum Data @ 800-879-8795 and I counted maybe 80 -
> > 100 25xx series routers in their warehouse when I was in there a week
> > ago. I think Michael Beacom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the guy
> > handling education sales now that I am gone.
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Re:RE: Ethernet frame format [7:5996]

2001-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks very much, cause I had the impression I hadn't understood anything
from my readings.

Best Regards,

Douglas


>>Great answer, but be careful with that "raw" term which to Novell people 
>means the Ethernet raw format, aka ETHERNET_802.3, ask novell-ether, which 
>is dest, src, length, immediately followed by the IPX header. The frame is 
>only recognizable because an IPX header starts with an XNS checksum, which 
>is . Novell didn't actually use the checksum when they borrowed XNS to 
>create IPX.
>
>A "real" 802.3 frame has dest, src, length and an 802.2 header with DSAP 
>and SSAP and maybe SNAP following. An Ethernet II frame has dest, src, type.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:26 PM 5/25/01, R. Benjamin Kessler wrote:
>>Just getting started, there are probably some "easier" reads out there but
>>that book will definitely give you the goods on TCP/IP...
>>
>>Regarding your question/statement, you are accurate that the "raw" Ethernet
>>frame format has DA, SA, EtherType, Data, and FCS - to be a valid frame it
>>just has to be between 64 and 1518 bytes (if we're including the 4 bytes of
>>the FCS in our calculations) - notice that the top end number is not 1500 -
>>the common "max" MTU size for Ethernet-attached devices talking IP.  MTU is
>>a function of L3, not L2.
>>
>>The IP header will indicate how many bytes of the Ethernet payload is
>>consumed by IP "stuff" - add this to the 14 bytes consumed by the
>>destination address (6), source address (6) and ethertype (2) to get the
>>total frame size (+ plus the trailing 4 bytes for the FCS).  This statement
>>will be true unless adding all that up equals a number less than 60 (64
>>w/FCS) in which case the packet will be "padded" with 0's to make it a
legal
>>Ethernet packet.
>>
>>I think it is generally considered a good thing that packets aren't padded
>>to the full Ethernet size (or MTU) - it that were the spec, I'm thinking
>>that ATM would be a lot more popular as a LAN medium.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:59 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Ethernet frame format [7:5996]
>>
>>
>>Dear Members List,
>>
>>I've just started the track for CCNA and, following all the repeated
advices
>>posted in this list, I started studing for Internetworking with TCP/IP, by
>>Douglas Comer.
>>
>>The ethernet frame format stablishes as necessary information for the frame
>>as DA, SA, Type, Data Area(variable from 46 to 1500 bytes) and a trailer
FCS
>>4 bytes.
>>
>>I don't see how can we have different frame sizes correctly received, since
>>there is no information about the specific lenght for every single frame,
>>taking in account the asynchrounous nature of this communication.
>>
>>I thought that the layer 3 would pad till the MTU was reached, but I saw a
>>trace on an ethernet network and I could see different frame sizes.
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Douglas Baltazar de Queiroz - Field Enginner
>>
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Re:RE: Ethernet frame format [7:5996]

2001-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks very much, cause I had the impression I hadn't understood anything
from my readings.

Best Regards,

Douglas


>>Great answer, but be careful with that "raw" term which to Novell people 
>means the Ethernet raw format, aka ETHERNET_802.3, ask novell-ether, which 
>is dest, src, length, immediately followed by the IPX header. The frame is 
>only recognizable because an IPX header starts with an XNS checksum, which 
>is . Novell didn't actually use the checksum when they borrowed XNS to 
>create IPX.
>
>A "real" 802.3 frame has dest, src, length and an 802.2 header with DSAP 
>and SSAP and maybe SNAP following. An Ethernet II frame has dest, src, type.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:26 PM 5/25/01, R. Benjamin Kessler wrote:
>>Just getting started, there are probably some "easier" reads out there but
>>that book will definitely give you the goods on TCP/IP...
>>
>>Regarding your question/statement, you are accurate that the "raw" Ethernet
>>frame format has DA, SA, EtherType, Data, and FCS - to be a valid frame it
>>just has to be between 64 and 1518 bytes (if we're including the 4 bytes of
>>the FCS in our calculations) - notice that the top end number is not 1500 -
>>the common "max" MTU size for Ethernet-attached devices talking IP.  MTU is
>>a function of L3, not L2.
>>
>>The IP header will indicate how many bytes of the Ethernet payload is
>>consumed by IP "stuff" - add this to the 14 bytes consumed by the
>>destination address (6), source address (6) and ethertype (2) to get the
>>total frame size (+ plus the trailing 4 bytes for the FCS).  This statement
>>will be true unless adding all that up equals a number less than 60 (64
>>w/FCS) in which case the packet will be "padded" with 0's to make it a
legal
>>Ethernet packet.
>>
>>I think it is generally considered a good thing that packets aren't padded
>>to the full Ethernet size (or MTU) - it that were the spec, I'm thinking
>>that ATM would be a lot more popular as a LAN medium.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:59 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Ethernet frame format [7:5996]
>>
>>
>>Dear Members List,
>>
>>I've just started the track for CCNA and, following all the repeated
advices
>>posted in this list, I started studing for Internetworking with TCP/IP, by
>>Douglas Comer.
>>
>>The ethernet frame format stablishes as necessary information for the frame
>>as DA, SA, Type, Data Area(variable from 46 to 1500 bytes) and a trailer
FCS
>>4 bytes.
>>
>>I don't see how can we have different frame sizes correctly received, since
>>there is no information about the specific lenght for every single frame,
>>taking in account the asynchrounous nature of this communication.
>>
>>I thought that the layer 3 would pad till the MTU was reached, but I saw a
>>trace on an ethernet network and I could see different frame sizes.
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Douglas Baltazar de Queiroz - Field Enginner
>>
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Re: help --------------Pls ................OIR Error [7:6021]

2001-05-27 Thread Rahul Kachalia

Well not sure about the stat but since its an event not an specific error I
would try following :

- Though there is an OIR event configure same port & put it online, verify
X25 works. Even if it works make sure you dont have any errors on link.
- Try changing cable/PA/bay on same box.
- If you another router running same image then use same cable/pa to make
sure if you get same error.

If that works then change logging level, also make sure you dont have
any records by typing following commands if its there then add more
information to mail.

- show exception
- show align

thanks,
rahul.

- Original Message -
From: "Arun" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: help --Pls OIR Error [7:6021]


> Hi
> Here the detail for u i have ver 11.8 runnign on it
>
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-JS-M), Version 11.3(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> Compiled Tue 02-Feb-99 14:13 by dschwart
> Image text-base: 0x60008918, data-base: 0x608E8000
>
> ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(20)AA1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (f
> c1)
> System image file is "flash:c3640-js-mz.113-8", booted via flash
>
> cisco 3640 (R4700) processor (revision 0x00) with 49152K/16384K bytes of
> memory.
> Processor board ID 13831748
> R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0
> Bridging software.
>
>
> Regards
> Arun Sharma
>
> ""Chuck Larrieu""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Beat the hell out of me.
> >
> > In the past I have posted about problems with earlier 12.x codes, where
if
> I
> > plugged serial cables into a serial interface while the router was
powered
> > on, IP would not work, although IPX would.
> >
> > I've had people tell me I was an idiot, and this couldn't happen. But
> Pamela
> > Forsythe told me she recognized the phenomenon.
> >
> > I've moved my routers onto various versions of 12.1 code, and have not
> seen
> > the problem. Actually, I don't think I ever saw the problem with later
> > versions of 12.0 code either.
> >
> > Still curious what IOS version you are running.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Arun
> > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: help --Pls OIR Error [7:6021]
> >
> > hi
> > yes i tried reloading the router with the cables attached and it worked
> > ..
> > thanks for the help but what could be the reason for that if i know it
> will
> > be a help .
> >
> > Arun Sharma
> > ""Chuck Larrieu""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Have you tried reloading the router with the cable attached?
> > >
> > > Or blowing away the X.35 config, reloading with the cable attached,
then
> > > putting in the X.25
> > >
> > > What version of IOS are you running? I have documented a couple of
> > problems
> > > revolving around serial port cables with 12.0.4 or so.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > Arun
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 3:58 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: help --Pls OIR Error [7:6021]
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > I have router configured as X25 router .I have 2 slots in it with each
> > > having 4 serial ports on them.The problem is that when i connect the
> cisco
> > > provided cable just the cable to the administratively shutdown serial
> port
> > > it gives me error :
> > > %OIRINT:OIR Event has occured OIR_ctrl 50 oir stat 8F88
> > > ( i have checked OIR it stands online insertion and removal but i
could
> > not
> > > find this particular error)
> > > and this also hangs the router i have checked the cable i can not do
> many
> > > thngs on the router as it is in live n/w ..Please help ..the router
> works
> > > well after i remove cable and restart the router .
> > > Any help will be appreciated
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
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Re: CIT Exam Cram Book [7:5294]

2001-05-27 Thread Scott

I knew the book existed because it was advertised in the Remote Access
Exam Cram, but I could not find it at any of the big Canadian retailers
either. However, one day I came across a bunch of copies at Price
Club/Costco in Kitchener Ontario. And it was only $25.99 instead of
$44.99. This was several months ago. 

For what it's worth, I'm not particularly fond of this series and have a
hard time trusting what I read is accurate, however it's ok as a
supplemental review.

"[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)" wrote:
> 
> Does anyone out there have a copy of the CIT Exam Cram book ?  Does anyone
> know where to obtain a copy.  I can't seem to find a copy in print
> anywhere...[borders/barnes/etc.]
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> Mike
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Re: Free Layer 3 Catalyst Lab (Kitty++) [7:6068]

2001-05-27 Thread Peter I. Slow

Anyone got one of the token ring switching modules for this thing?
(the catalyst)

-Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Rauhauser" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: Free Layer 3 Catalyst Lab (Kitty++)


> 
> More is never enough. This obvious truth being stated, we'll move on
> to the details of our latest 'event' :-)
> 
> 
>Using reverse telnet to 24.3.233.101 with a userid and password of
> 'ebay' you will find the following toys
> 
> 
> port 2008Catalyst 5000 /w WS-X5530-E2 NFFC supervisor 3 engine
> port 2007Cisco 4500 /w fast ethernet (not yet functional, must be
> made to netboot due to small flash)
> port 2006Cisco 7206 /w fast ethernet
> port 2005 Cisco 2501
> port 2004Cisco 2501
> port 2003Cisco MC3810
> port 2002Cat 2912-XL-EN (due in Tuesday)
> 
>  For the moment all of these devices have no passwords beyond the
> userid ebay/password ebay needed to get past the terminal server HOWEVER
> the last time I provided a free online lab some buttnozzle, against my
> explicit instructions, went around and put passwords on every device. I
> don't mind providing this stuff when its around but this kind of
> behavior drives me to distraction so there is now a new policy:
> 
>This stuff will be freely available over the long Memorial Day
> weekend and you can email myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Peter Slow
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll patch up anything that goes wrong.
> 
>Once the weekend is over we're going to lock it down for our personal
> use HOWEVER we will accept small cash bribes ($10?) via paypal for a day
> of dedicated access. I think this will keep the lab available, still
> darned close to free, and save Pete and I a lot of tech support
> headaches.
> 
> 
>We owe massive props to:
> 
> 
> Peter Slow - the world's youngest AND shortest CCNP (17, 5' nothing)
> - for the loan of the Catalyst and supervisor engine
> 
> Optimum Data - for the loan of the PA-FE-TX, the WS-X5224 in the
> Catalyst, and the entire 4500 /w fast ethernet.
> 
> Dan Jaffe - for the loan of the Cat 2912
> 
> 
> 
>You can reach Optimum Data @ 800-879-8795 and I counted maybe 80 -
> 100 25xx series routers in their warehouse when I was in there a week
> ago. I think Michael Beacom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the guy
> handling education sales now that I am gone.
> 
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RE: Different kind of switching [7:6064]

2001-05-27 Thread Daniel Cotts

Its all on www.cisco.com. You just have to dig for it. A quick search on
"autonomous switching" brought up many links. Here is the first.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios11/cbook/cip.htm
#xtocid1051776
watch the wrap.

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> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:13 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Different kind of switching [7:6064]
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Would someone can tell me how can I locate the info about the 
> difference
> between different kinds of switching, such as fast switching, flow
> switching, distributed fast switching etc.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> regards,
> mak
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Free Layer 3 Catalyst Lab (Kitty++) [7:6066]

2001-05-27 Thread Neal Rauhauser

More is never enough. This obvious truth being stated, we'll move on
to the details of our latest 'event' :-)


   Using reverse telnet to 24.3.233.101 with a userid and password of
'ebay' you will find the following toys


port 2008Catalyst 5000 /w WS-X5530-E2 NFFC supervisor 3 engine
port 2007Cisco 4500 /w fast ethernet (not yet functional, must be
made to netboot due to small flash)
port 2006Cisco 7206 /w fast ethernet
port 2005 Cisco 2501
port 2004Cisco 2501
port 2003Cisco MC3810
port 2002Cat 2912-XL-EN (due in Tuesday)

 For the moment all of these devices have no passwords beyond the
userid ebay/password ebay needed to get past the terminal server HOWEVER
the last time I provided a free online lab some buttnozzle, against my
explicit instructions, went around and put passwords on every device. I
don't mind providing this stuff when its around but this kind of
behavior drives me to distraction so there is now a new policy:

   This stuff will be freely available over the long Memorial Day
weekend and you can email myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Peter Slow
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll patch up anything that goes wrong.

   Once the weekend is over we're going to lock it down for our personal
use HOWEVER we will accept small cash bribes ($10?) via paypal for a day
of dedicated access. I think this will keep the lab available, still
darned close to free, and save Pete and I a lot of tech support
headaches.


   We owe massive props to:


Peter Slow - the world's youngest AND shortest CCNP (17, 5' nothing)
- for the loan of the Catalyst and supervisor engine

Optimum Data - for the loan of the PA-FE-TX, the WS-X5224 in the
Catalyst, and the entire 4500 /w fast ethernet.

Dan Jaffe - for the loan of the Cat 2912



   You can reach Optimum Data @ 800-879-8795 and I counted maybe 80 -
100 25xx series routers in their warehouse when I was in there a week
ago. I think Michael Beacom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the guy
handling education sales now that I am gone.






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Re: TokenRing MAU - anyone have one to sell [7:6062]

2001-05-27 Thread ElephantChild

On Sun, 27 May 2001, andyh wrote:

> have been looking for a cheap & cheerful token-ring MAU without any luck
> 
> if anyone has a spare and wants to sell then please get in touch
> 
> I am in the UK, but can import if need be

Not sure what you mean by cheap, but a quick search showed one at #26 on
eBay UK and 40 or so, most at less than $10, on eBay.

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Different kind of switching [7:6064]

2001-05-27 Thread mak

Hi,

Would someone can tell me how can I locate the info about the difference
between different kinds of switching, such as fast switching, flow
switching, distributed fast switching etc.

Thanks

regards,
mak




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Re: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]

2001-05-27 Thread ElephantChild

On Sun, 27 May 2001, andyh wrote:

> > I'm still chewing on my CCNP, but in my job in a large NOC, we had one
> very
> > large network (Fortune 50) running DEC, IS-IS and a few X.25 lines,
> several
> > banking customers who used SDLC/DLSW for their ATM machines, some
> Appletalk,
> > and some other odd stuff. IMHO, it's not a bad idea at all that Cisco
> > guarantees that CCIE's have been exposed to all of this at least once.
> 
> didn't know you could encapsulate ATM inside SDLC/DLSW ;-)

ATM, the ATM network uses an ATM core, and its design documents contain
ATM fonts.

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TokenRing MAU - anyone have one to sell [7:6062]

2001-05-27 Thread andyh

have been looking for a cheap & cheerful token-ring MAU without any luck

if anyone has a spare and wants to sell then please get in touch

I am in the UK, but can import if need be

many thanks

Andy




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Re: CCNP Books ? [7:6058]

2001-05-27 Thread Circusnuts

Cisco Press CCNP Library, the 4 Exam Crams CCNP books, & possibly the Boson
online exams for whichever you feel weak in.

That's all it takes...
Phil

- Original Message -
From: Taufik A Lubis 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 4:08 AM
Subject: CCNP Books ? [7:6058]


> I have a planning to prepare CCNP test (WAN Switching , Routing and
>
> etc) ... but i just know books from sybex  does anybody know about the
>
> others books about CCNP material tests ? which one better ?
>
> Thanks for informations
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Re: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]RE: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]

2001-05-27 Thread andyh


> In any well-considered educational endeavor, the program will consist of
two
> kinds of knowledge. One kind is the obvious -- you want the students to
> achieve mastery. Even after the classes/training are over, and they've
been
> away from it in their work for some time, you want them to *know* that
> material.
>
> For other knowledge the goal is familiarity, not mastery. Down the road,
you
> don't necessarily expect them to remember all the details, but you do want
> them to recognize the material when they run into it, have a clue what
it's
> about, know where to look for the information they need to work with it,
and
> be confident they can use the information under those circumstances
because,
> "They learned it once, they'll be able to refresh/deepen their knowledge
> when necessary and be productive."
>
> Whether by design or accident (most likely the test is just old), I think
> the CCIE written will help candidates achieve familiarity with a lot of
> material they "may well run into at some point," whereas the lab, which
> motivates much more studying, will help them achieve mastery of the most
> important topics.
>
> I'm still chewing on my CCNP, but in my job in a large NOC, we had one
very
> large network (Fortune 50) running DEC, IS-IS and a few X.25 lines,
several
> banking customers who used SDLC/DLSW for their ATM machines, some
Appletalk,
> and some other odd stuff. IMHO, it's not a bad idea at all that Cisco
> guarantees that CCIE's have been exposed to all of this at least once.

didn't know you could encapsulate ATM inside SDLC/DLSW ;-)

>
> FWIW,
> doctorcisco
>
>
> >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]
> >Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:10:27 -0400
> >
> >This of course presumes it is in Cisco's interest to make the test
> >"relevant".
> >
> >Reminds a bit of the arguments we used to make in college and grad
school.
> >My major is X, so why should I be required to take classes in Y? The
answer
> >is BECAUSE!  :->
> >
> >Right or wrong, relevant or not, the fact is that if you want the reward,
> >then part of the requirement is to put up with the crap.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> >g_study
> >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:19 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]
> >
> >Mr.Bad Attitude,
> >
> >  I never said the lab was outdated. I have never used web based
utilities
> >to
> >configure routers. All I said was the written test was outdated. They
need
> >to update it. I didn't say make it easier. I asked why they still test us
> >on
> >outdated technologies. I would rather spend my time studying BGP then how
> >to
> >read a RIF.
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Louie Belt"
> >To:
> >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 5:17 PM
> >Subject: RE: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]
> >
> >
> > > And a calculator can do math for you, but would you substitute your
> > > knowledge of math for a dependancy on a calculator?   If all you want
to
> >do
> > > is follow the suggestions of a sniffer, then do so.  If you want to
> >learn
> > > networking then invest the time to undertand what it is the sniffer is
> > > telling you.  I assume from your comments you would also prefer to use
> >the
> > > web based configuration utilities for switches and routers  - that way
> >you
> > > don't have to know the syntax.  I guess the CCIE lab is outdated as
> >well.
> > >
> > > Louie
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Brian
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 5:30 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]
> > >
> > >
> > > exactly, I was just talking about this with a study partner, and the
> > > obsession with bits in the header is really deep here, and the
canonical
> > > inversion stuff makes my brain hurt.  I would think most packet
sniffers
> > > would do this for you.
> > >
> > > Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> > > Success = Preparation + Opportunity
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 May 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 04:59 PM 5/24/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >But do I really need to know how to read a RIF? How often do you
read
> >a
> > > RIF?
> > > >
> > > > I don't think so. That's one of the silliest topics, in my opinion.
If
> >you
> > > > had to read a RIF you would use a protocol analyzer that would
decode
> >it
> > > > for you.
> > > >
> > > > >I know some day you could run into a situation where you really
need
> >to
> > > know
> > > > >how to read a RIF or know how to configure Apollo, Banyan VINES or
> >XNS.
> >I
> > > > >guess I am just frustrated with the trivial parts of this test.
> > > > >
> > > > >Does anyone else out there feel this way about this test?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >. - Original Message -
> > > > >From: "Howard

ISL and MTU [7:6059]

2001-05-27 Thread George Yiannibas

Hi group
I am currently studying for BCMSN 640-504 and I thought of this question: If
you reduce MTU from the default 1518 byte size to 1488 you will not get baby
giant frames if using ISL True or False ?
This is not a question from any book or any exam and I had it since I was
studying for CCNA. Any input is welcome.
PS Thank you all in advance this is a great forum and I learn something new
every day !

George Yiannibas MCSE CCNA




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CCNP Books ? [7:6058]

2001-05-27 Thread Taufik A Lubis

I have a planning to prepare CCNP test (WAN Switching , Routing and

etc) ... but i just know books from sybex  does anybody know about the

others books about CCNP material tests ? which one better ? 
   
Thanks for informations




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